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Beau Bokan: Blessthefall · The BlackSheep Podcast: Presented by HM Magazine

• 0:16
  Speaker 1: Yet Yelly.
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  Speaker 2: Today we've got Bo from Bless the Fall super excited
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  Speaker 2: to chat with you.
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  Speaker 3: Bo.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I don't know if we Colin and
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  Speaker 2: I have done two hundred plus episodes now, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if we've ever interviewed somebody who was shirtless at
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  Speaker 2: the time, and so this might be the first shirtless
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  Speaker 2: interview we've ever done, just saying.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a few I can think of that I
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  Speaker 4: would wish we're shirtless, but but you're you're You're on
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  Speaker 4: the top of that list.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks dude. I am on this campaign for twenty twenty
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  Speaker 3: five to abolish T shirts.
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  Speaker 4: So you're there of lead vocalists.
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  Speaker 3: I like it. I like it. Yeah, yeah, the machine
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  Speaker 3: part two.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you run for re election, then you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to, like and you've already accomplished the abolished
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  Speaker 2: the T shirts, then like the only extra, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the only other thing you could run on is like
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  Speaker 2: maybe abolishing pants for the balls.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that could be next. There's a lot of there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of you know, push I get a lot
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  Speaker 3: of ads for like the ball treummers, the like.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, the man things or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: So you know what I mean that could go along
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  Speaker 3: with it, maybe like some kind of partnership there you go.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there is a new sponsor by the way,
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  Speaker 4: So if you would like to get off of landscapes.
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  Speaker 3: That would be awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I wish run a position every money, that'd be great awesome. Well,
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  Speaker 2: how before we dive into bus the fall stuff, how
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  Speaker 2: you doing today, bo? What's what's life treating you?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's kind of if you guys want
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  Speaker 3: to kind of get a little bit personal. We're doing
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  Speaker 3: some uh construction on our home, and so right outside
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  Speaker 3: of our windows is giant machines that are drilling into
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  Speaker 3: their rocks. So at about seven am, it's like pure chaos.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds like I'm more outside. It's like so I'm
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  Speaker 3: just like awake, ready to go make my coffee. I'm
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  Speaker 3: just uh yeah, just hanging out. Hence I didn't have
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  Speaker 3: time to even pretty sure on.
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  Speaker 4: How close to the coast are you. Are you worried
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  Speaker 4: about the potential impending tsunamia?
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, We're up on a mountain. We're
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  Speaker 3: far away beautiful. If anything, I'm worried about people like
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  Speaker 3: everyone running up here to like take cover. You have
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  Speaker 3: plenty of room. We got plenty of room bring them up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but let's let's talk about you know, obviously we
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  Speaker 2: will want to eventually talk about the new album, but
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  Speaker 2: before we dive into that, yeah, I'd love to just
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  Speaker 2: kind of hear your own history and the music. So
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  Speaker 2: maybe even before talking about like getting into bus Fall,
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to hear just kind of like what made you?
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  Speaker 2: What inspired you to be a person that sings for
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  Speaker 2: a living man?
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  Speaker 3: That's a great question. I was always into music and
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  Speaker 3: I agree. I loved Michael Jackson growing up, which is brilliandom.
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  Speaker 3: I used to watch he has a VHS tape back
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  Speaker 3: then it was called Moonwalker, and it was like all
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  Speaker 3: like music videos and really cool skits. He did all
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  Speaker 3: these like skits. So I had this whole storyline and
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  Speaker 3: I watched this like NonStop, like all the time, popped
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  Speaker 3: it and binged it and front to back, and so
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  Speaker 3: that was like one of the things where I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 3: you know. My mom was always like you should sing.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like no, no, no, it's fine, Like i I'm
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  Speaker 3: not met, you know what I mean. Like she my
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  Speaker 3: mom was always like you're like such a you're such
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  Speaker 3: a ham like around friends. You're always like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: putting on these voices and singing and like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, but when it came your mom called you.
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  Speaker 3: I ham my mom. Yeah, she was like, you're such
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  Speaker 3: a like you know you you could do this, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like you have something. I'm like, oh, I know. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: that's not for me. I was just you know, at
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  Speaker 3: the same time, I was an extrovert around my friends,
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  Speaker 3: but an introvert otherwise, so I wouldn't you know. She
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  Speaker 3: took me to go audition for this musical and I
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  Speaker 3: like freaked out, didn't get out of the car. So
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  Speaker 3: it just took a lot of just me figuring that
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  Speaker 3: out that I could do that, you know, like that
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  Speaker 3: maybe that's possible. And yeah, it was a long it
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  Speaker 3: didn't happen un till way later. It was like I
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  Speaker 3: went saw and then I saw Blank one a Too.
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  Speaker 3: Was my first concert ever. It was like a small show.
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  Speaker 3: There's probably like eight hundred people there, but I crowdsurfed,
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  Speaker 3: I stage dove, I did all the things and I'm
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  Speaker 3: like this, this is awesome, you know, like this.
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  Speaker 5: Wait, what year would have that have been?
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to think the last time blank onin
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  Speaker 2: eighty two would have only played.
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  Speaker 3: To eight probably like ninety seven. Dud Anch had just
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  Speaker 3: come out. Wow wow Wow Yeah, jud Anciud like just
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  Speaker 3: come out, damn. It was like starting to to like
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  Speaker 3: hit the charts and stuff like that. And I was
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  Speaker 3: into you know, like skate punk at the time, so
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  Speaker 3: like No Effects, lag Wagon, strung Out, you name it,
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  Speaker 3: and Blink was my first show ever. So that was
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  Speaker 3: like I remember just daydreaming about that show. Like the
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  Speaker 3: next day at school, I was like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 3: like what did I just experience? And I was like
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  Speaker 3: kind of always chasing that like thing of like I
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  Speaker 3: want to make other people feel the way I felt
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  Speaker 3: that night, you know what I mean. It was like
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  Speaker 3: this really special moment, and so I was like I
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  Speaker 3: got to figure out what I can do. I was
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  Speaker 3: playing hockey at the time, so I was like super
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  Speaker 3: into hockey. It was like super dedicated to hockey. But
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  Speaker 3: music was always you know, had band posters on my
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  Speaker 3: walls and stuff like that, and my mom was like,
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  Speaker 3: you never have like hockey posters on your wall, and
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  Speaker 3: you like like yeah, but like you know, these music's
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  Speaker 3: really cool and you know, these guys are rat so anyway,
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  Speaker 3: my mom started noticing, like, oh, you're getting Wayne into music,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and uh. And then at one point I
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: was like when my hockey career ended, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I want to start a band. And so I try
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  Speaker 3: to like convince all my friends to start a band
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  Speaker 3: with me, and they're like, well, what can you do.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I can try to sing. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: They're like, you can't sing. We've never just sing once?
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  Speaker 3: Like what do you mean. I'm like, no, no, like,
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  Speaker 3: let me try this out. So we started a band.
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  Speaker 3: It was called Take the Crown. It was like kind
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  Speaker 3: of punk punk, skate punk adjacent. I don't know. It
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  Speaker 3: was just like fast beats. And I was awful. I
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  Speaker 3: was so bad. And I my drummer at the time
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  Speaker 3: was a good friend of mine and he was going
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  Speaker 3: to he went to school to learn how to record,
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  Speaker 3: to be an engineer, and he recorded us and I couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, dude, I'm so bad. Like everyone was
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  Speaker 3: just like, yeah, I don't know me lessons or something
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  Speaker 3: like you know, it's they agreed with you. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they were like, yeah, you're like pretty bad, but like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you know, work on it. And so you know,
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  Speaker 3: it was like trial by fire. I was just like
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  Speaker 3: in you know, doing shows and I wouldn't face the crowd.
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  Speaker 3: I would like face the drum kid and just be like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, really shy. But it was like something I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to do, so I kind of just forced myself
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  Speaker 3: to do it. And yeah, years went by like that
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  Speaker 3: and got yea. I started taking vocal lessons. The band
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  Speaker 3: members changed, the style changed of the music, you know,
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  Speaker 3: style the music change, and uh, we got a manager,
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  Speaker 3: and then we got signed to Rise Records and put
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  Speaker 3: an album out through Rise, and and we recorded our
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  Speaker 3: demos with with Chris. He's in Saoson He's a bas
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  Speaker 3: player for Sarsen and in Bo's studio, Bo Burchelle who
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  Speaker 3: you know records, he's a producer and all that. So
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  Speaker 3: we borrowed his studio and Chris was trying to learn
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  Speaker 3: how to be a producer and engineering. He put me
• 7:46
  Speaker 3: through like boot camp, like vocal boot camp. Like I
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  Speaker 3: would be in there and he'd be like sing it
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  Speaker 3: like this, and he would sing, he would do the
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  Speaker 3: notes and he would play the notes on the keys,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, I'm trying.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 3: It was like so between that and like going to
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  Speaker 3: vocal lessons and stuff and having some coaches, and I
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  Speaker 3: just started kind of finding my own voice. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the band we toured and you know, didn't do great,
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  Speaker 3: but over here sorry a place.
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  Speaker 4: So something I've noticed often is that for tenor singers
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  Speaker 4: like yourself, Yeah, they don't generally find their voice until
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  Speaker 4: quite a bit later on. M Was that kind of
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  Speaker 4: the same for you. Were you trying to sing lower
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  Speaker 4: initially or something like that, and then all of a
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  Speaker 4: sudden You're like, holy cow, I've got this register up
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  Speaker 4: here that just kills for sure?
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  Speaker 3: For sure? Yeah, it was. It was like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: just couldn't find my pocket, my comfort zone. And I
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  Speaker 3: think working with Chris and doing those demos with him,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, I can sing kind of high.
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  Speaker 3: This is kind of crazy, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, Oh, that's you know, but I had
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  Speaker 3: to figure out how to get up there naturally without
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  Speaker 3: forcing it. Yeah, which, I you know, I think I'm
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: still learning, you know, like I've at the even at
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  Speaker 3: this stage, I feel like I'm learning techniques where I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I can do this, especially live when I'm like gassed
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: at you know, towards end of a show, we're playing
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  Speaker 3: Hey Baby last and it's like the highest registered song
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  Speaker 3: of all time and and so yeah, it was, uh,
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  Speaker 3: it was just I think just through that that I
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  Speaker 3: learned like, yeah, where my comfort zone is and where
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  Speaker 3: I fit in. But it even it's it is really
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  Speaker 3: nice to sing to sing lower and having those moments,
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  Speaker 3: and I've learned the opposite now is to pull back
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  Speaker 3: when it's you know, when it's called for for sure?
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  Speaker 2: What inspired you to start screaming in particular? What like,
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  Speaker 2: was there maybe an album and artists that you started
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  Speaker 2: listening to and you were like, oh, that in particular
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  Speaker 2: I want to do like that was there or or
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  Speaker 2: or is that something where you just like the music
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  Speaker 2: that you were making with the band, Like did you
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: demand that? Or I'm just curious, like what inspired you
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  Speaker 2: to start learning on the screen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jared does all the screaming in the band, So I, oh,
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  Speaker 3: that's right. I'm like off the hook there, but I
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: do stuff live and I have been actually working on
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  Speaker 3: sounding better because there's uh, he just has so much
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  Speaker 3: to do that like I'm like, hey, i'll take this line.
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  Speaker 3: I'll take this line, and I don't one hundred percent
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm doing. Sometimes it sounds great and I'm like, whoa,
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  Speaker 3: what was that? And I'm like and I try to
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  Speaker 3: recreate that, and then it sounds like shit. I'm like,
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: oh no, like what happened.
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  Speaker 4: So I think I think what Mason was trying to
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  Speaker 4: get at is you have you have quite a few
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  Speaker 4: vocal lines where you you take it up a notch
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  Speaker 4: where you kind of get like an in between yeah, screams.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of kind of.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's more more what Mason was trying
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  Speaker 4: to get at, because obviously, yeah, the scream the screaming
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  Speaker 4: vocals are great, but the almost like singing scream that
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  Speaker 4: you do every once in a while is yeah, it's
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  Speaker 4: it's very unique. It's very very cool, and especially live,
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  Speaker 4: you hear a lot more live than you do on
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  Speaker 4: the record.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Yeah, it's fun. Like I you know,
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  Speaker 3: bands like Thrice was the first band I ever listened
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  Speaker 3: to that had singing and screaming. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this is a thing, Like this is cool, you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean. I didn't know it was it was
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  Speaker 3: even a thing like I listened to like Minor Threat
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  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. But like that's a different kind
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  Speaker 3: of like shout, you know what I mean, It's right,
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  Speaker 3: But Thrice was the band that really bridged that gap
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  Speaker 3: for me of like metal and punk into like more
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  Speaker 3: hardcore type stuff. And then I started listening to just
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: got heavier and heavier progressively, like my tastes from there
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  Speaker 3: for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So how did you how did you get hooked
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: up with the Blessed the Fall Guys? What was that
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  Speaker 4: whole process like for you, because obviously there's been there's
• 11:42
  Speaker 4: been some you know, some changeover in that and the
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: the clean vocals department of Blessed the Fall and some
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  Speaker 4: interesting shoes to fill. Uh and uh. I think most
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  Speaker 4: people would say that you are the person you are,
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  Speaker 4: like kind of like the the voice, the clean voice
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: of Blessed the Fault. Even though there's been other great vocalists,
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  Speaker 4: you are the one that they think of.
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  Speaker 5: Now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's cool, Like I you know, it took
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: a little bit to kind of own that. But it
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: was my roommate at the time worked for Blessed Fell's
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  Speaker 3: record label. My old band were kind of slowing down,
• 12:23
  Speaker 3: you know, and she would she was she would tell
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: me about Blessed Fell she'd be like, hey, like, there's
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: this band blah blah blah, and so I kind of followed
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: their career and so I knew when they kicked their
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: singer out and everything else, and she's like, you should
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: try out. I'm like, well, you know, I have this
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  Speaker 3: other band. I can't just leave them, you know that
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: kind of thing. And and so they through the process
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: of them trying people out, and then my band just
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: kind of, you know, things just kind of like slowly
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  Speaker 3: digressing with like the label stopping tour support, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: we weren't really selling albums and we were just like
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: kind of just scraping by, you know. I was like, fine,
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: you know, like okay, I'll try out for bust of all.
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: And then she was like, oh, I think they found
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: a guy. They like they're I think they found someone.
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, all right, well whatever. So I was
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: like wrapping my head around like what was next, and
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: then she hit me up and was like, hey, actually,
• 13:15
  Speaker 3: like they want you to come out and try out.
• 13:18
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, okay, sick like, so they flew me out.
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  Speaker 3: I learned probably I think three of their songs off
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  Speaker 3: his Glass Walk. And then they also had sent a demo.
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  Speaker 3: It was for a song called to Helen Back, well
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  Speaker 3: it wasn't called that that yet, but a song that
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: was eventually gonna be called to Hella Back. And I
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: wrote the like an intro chorus type thing for that song.
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  Speaker 3: And so when they tried you know, when we tried
• 13:44
  Speaker 3: out and I had sang the old songs and then
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, actually, I have like some I wrote
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  Speaker 3: for this if you guys want to check it out.
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  Speaker 3: And so they played to hell Back and I sang
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  Speaker 3: my parts like this look like you know, the chorus
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  Speaker 3: or whatever, and they were all kind of like, you know,
• 13:59
  Speaker 3: I could kind of see that there was like something there,
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: and Eric just goes like you want to do this?
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, do what? Like I thought he meant like
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: practice was over or something, you know, And I'm like
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: he's like, you're you got the part man of like
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  Speaker 3: you want to be in the band. I'm like, sick, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: let's go.
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  Speaker 4: I don't I don't think people understand how big a
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: balls that takes to come in with a part that
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  Speaker 4: you wrote for a demo that they've already done it
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: and you're like no, no, no, like just just just
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: hear me out on this like that, because you don't
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: know what the dynamic of that band necessarily is for sure,
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: and you're just going to walk in and be like,
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: here's here's my creative input. Yeah that's that's not a
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  Speaker 4: very common thing. I don't think.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it takes. I think it was at that point
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  Speaker 3: I had just said, like, you know, what's the worst
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: that can happen? Like, my band is like pretty much toast.
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  Speaker 3: This is like a bonus, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: So there were there was no I didn't really feel
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: that any sort of pressure, Like I just feel like
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: this is this is fun, you know, and like what's
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: the worst case scenario? They don't like it. I go
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: back home and it is what it is. I move
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: on with my life. So I think for them, And
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: I know Eric said this too. He was like when
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: you He's like, yeah, anyone can kind of sing the
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: old songs and sound like our old singer or whatever,
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: but like when you showed us that you could actually
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: write something cool that we enjoyed, that was the winner
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: for us. We're like, because that's the hardest part is like,
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: once you can sing all the old songs, that's karaoke
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: but when you get in the studio and you have
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: to write something good and and to Hell and Back
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: ended up being the first song we put out and
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: with you know, announcing me as the new singer. So
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: it was really special and I think for all of us, like,
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: you know, I get the chills. So sometimes I was like,
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: we're all like in the room, we like hugged, and
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: we're like we knew this was sort of the beginning
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: of something that could be really cool. And they found
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: you know, Eric and my kids signed up for college.
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: They were about to go back to college or go
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: to college rather. They were like yeah, they they had
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: signed up and had to like go cancel their classes
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: that day and they're like oh shit, Like they were
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: like admitting defeat at that point. Like, like I said,
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: that was a that was a moment for all of
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: us where like, yeah, whatever, let's just see what happens
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: like and and it you know, something amazing came from it.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: So it's it was a really cool moment and we
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: we all kind of realized like, oh shit, okay, we're
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: gonna do this, like this is the start of something cool.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: Did you do that audition shirtless as well?
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: I did. I did nice. It was in Arizona. You're like,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: you have to of course I was sweat. I was
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: sweating the second I got off the plane.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Does it does it really feel like you know, I've
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: never I'm neither Colin and I've ever been in bands.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: But I'm kind of curious, like when you do something
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: like an audition, does it really actually feel like a
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: job interview?
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: A little bit? A little bit, I mean, and that
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: is the first Spain I've ever auditioned for, So it
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: was like it felt like, man, it felt like just
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: it almost felt like going on a date rather than
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: a job interview. Oh, You're like, do I get along
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: with this person? Do we have things in common? Are
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: we compatible? You know? Like and all those things checked out,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: like our sense of humor, you know, as a band,
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: like we we all are jokes. Immediately, we like understood
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: each other. We kind of dressed the same, which is
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: really funny, you know what I mean. Like that's all
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: you know, when you go on to the day, you're
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: looking for somebody that's you know that you can get along,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: and you're like, can I hang out with this person?
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: You know, like you know all the time, is that
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: gonna is that gonna work.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: It's like someone I saw this thing. It was like,
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: I will never date outside my music musical genre, like
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: if I have you know what I mean, my musical
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: taste or something. And it was like really funny because
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: you're like, yeah, if you like date someone who's like
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: super into only into country music, like I don't, Oh god,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know that it's gonna work. You know, I
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: don't think I could be pretty tough. So yeah, it was.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: It was more like a blind day than you know,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: even an audition. It was like, yeah, how are these guys?
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: You know, how do I vibe with them? And we
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: hit it off immediately. We're like, yeah, it was very cool.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Well it sounds like it ended with a kiss.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: More than a kiss, more than kiss. Already I got
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: the home base pretty great. Yeah, So.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Colin and I have interviewed a number of musicians where
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: especially when it comes to like singers that come into
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: the band after the band has already had like an
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: original singer, and I know that that can kind of
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: be an interesting dynamic for the new singer. At what
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: point did you feel like Blessed the Fall kind of
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: became your own, Like what I'm sure at some point,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: you know, especially early on, it kind of felt like maybe, hey,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I'm still like kind of the new guy, and you
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: might even had, you know, maybe had fans that were
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: sort of like, oh, I just wish the old guy
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: was around still. But like, at what point did you
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: sort of feel like, oh, like this is this is
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: my band? Like there or they like you felt like
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like a core part of this now.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they made me feel very comfortable right
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: off the bat. They made me you know. They were
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: never like hey, the old guy used to do this
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: or this is what he would you know what I mean.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: They never they were always like you're so much cooler then,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: you know. They were like very like we're so stoked here,
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: and you know, I just brought I just brought my
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: own energy. And the band was like uh. We were
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: recording and doing demos at first out in Coast to Mesa,
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: and I was in California and I was living in
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: huns And Beach, so I would take them to all
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: my favorite spots to eat and I just felt like
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I was like showing them who I was, and they
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: were like just blunt, they were like this is so cool,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: like everything. I took them on, like a high school
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: swimming pool that we would go to at like one
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: in the morning and like go swim there, and they
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: had never done anything like that. So I felt like
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I was just bringing my own brand of you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: my own energy to the band, and they were like
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: accepting it and being stoked on it. And then, you know,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: our first few shows we played were I think we
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: did like five shows, and I think after the last show,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: the home shows in Arizona, I felt like, Okay, this
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: is like our thing. I don't feel like I'm trying
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: to be somebody else, you know. I think like it
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: took a few shows, you know, like just to get comfortable.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: I feel like I was like, you know, in the
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: driver's seat a little bit, and yeah, after those it
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: was like okay, sick and then yeah, and then we
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: went and did Witness and I felt like I was again,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: you know, it's my band, it's our band. You know,
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: we're doing this together. It's like, you know, we're not
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: trying to rehash what you've already done. And yeah, so
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I'd say like fairly quickly, I felt like, you know,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: here's here's me, here's my personality. I hope you guys
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: like it, and even on stage and like talking to
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: the crowd, and you know, the energy that we brought.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: I think like all that kind of kind of came
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: into play with just making it my own thing, not
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: my own, but our our thing as a whole. That's special.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, your your particular formula.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, my flavor, shirtless flavor.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: So another kind of interesting thing about like Blest the
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Fall is like around the time, especially around the time
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: that you enter the picture in the band, like you know,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine is sort
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: of what it feels like kind of the height of
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: the like you know, quote unquote like metal course. Yeah,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: like it just that's when it like was I mean,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: obviously had been growing by that point, and there had
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: been some really big albums by that point or even
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: prior to you even getting into Bless the Fall, But
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: you know, it really feels like two and nine twenty
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: ten kind of feels like the height of or at
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: least my perception of it is that was kind of
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: the height. And did it feel like that for you, Like,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: did it feel like those were like some of the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: biggest shows or I'm just curious like for you being
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: in the band, Like when did it feel like, Okay, wow,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: we are like like I'm sure like kind of one
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: of those things where like you're just getting thrust into
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: something where like you're immediately now playing into in front
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: of a lot of people.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: That would be my perception of it, but I could
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: be wrong.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's funny because our first show was at a
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: pizza shop in the basement and Jerry's Pizza. It's like
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: this legendary did you.
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: Get free pizza?
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's why I felt like we made it.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, if I'm getting free pizza, man, I'm
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: here for as long as possible. Yeah, it was. It
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: was in a basement. There's probably it could probably fit
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: two hundred people in there maybe, Like it's like the
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: ceilings here, you know. I was like literally like putting
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: my hand on the ceiling and the energy was insane
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: and the adrenaline was was unreal, you know what I mean,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Like just all these feelings of like holy shit now,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: and I'm seeing seeing people sing songs that I'm singing
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: back to me. I'm that's never ever happened. So it
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: was all like all this stuff was happening at once,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: and I remember going off stage again, we all hugged.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I remember all of us hugging and we were like,
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: oh my god. We all just like grabbed each other
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: and were like, yeah, we're just drenched and sweat. Right,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: it's like the hottest show you can imagine. And yeah,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: just that I was like, this is the this is
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: the moment, right, like, this is makes me feel like
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: I'm where I'm supposed to be. Didn't feel like I
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: was feeling in some of the's shoes, you know what
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: I mean. It felt like this was our thing now
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: and we're bringing this our own energy, and uh, yeah
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: it was. It was a moment I'll never forget, Like
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I feel like it was yesterday for sure.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: Ye how much of the how much of the writing
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: process would you kind of take as your own these days?
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: Writing process? Yeah, I mean definitely lyrics, melodies, screaming patterns,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: a big chunk of this really. Yeah. Nice, And I
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: mean Jared writes stuff as well. But I feel like
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: when I'm in there and I'm hearing the music, I'm like, hey, Jared,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: what about like a you know, I'm right here, bitch,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: you know, like, what about that it's like cool and
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: uh no, it's it's it's a big chunk for sure.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: And I have to credit our producers for and our engineers,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: you know, for like being able to take what we're
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: doing and and and refine it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I'll come with a melody, it'll come with some ideas,
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: and it is still a group effort. Like when they
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: it will be like, hey, that lyrics, I feel like
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: you can do better there, you know, like maybe like
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: that one's a little like lame without saying lame, but
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: you know, it's like that's what they're getting at. So yeah,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: it's it's yeah, I do all the melodies and lyrics
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: and screaming patterns as much as I can, and you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: the boys hop in after that and kind of help
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: refine it.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Interesting. Yeah, I've not heard of I've not heard of
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: of someone who isn't the one screaming picking over some
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: of the patterns for the screaming vocals. That that's impressive.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Also some incredible screaming patterns or I guess rhythms. How
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: do you want to say? Yeah, really really impressive stuff.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, I appreciate it.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really really impressive stuff to a lot of them.
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I think for me, I feel the
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: energy of the song. I feel the momentum and how
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: it works, and I can, you know, if I'm writing
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: the lyrics anyway, I can like at you know, add
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: my my take on it. You know, even though I'm
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: not screaming, I can It's rhythm. It's still it's just rhythm.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: It's like rapping, you know, like I could probably rap
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: at this point. So it's like you just feel in
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: the rhythm and how it moves and where you know
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: things would would you know if there needs to be
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: staccato or whatever the case is, and uh yeah, it's
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: it's super fun. It's super fun to do.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Can you can you prompt us into that for a moment?
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: Like how would you how would you say? Oh, yeah
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: that that uh that screamline sounds pretty good. But go
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: is that how you do it?
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Exactly where like yeah, you're just hearing it and you're like,
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: you know, yeah, you just feel where it fits in.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: And then someone goes like whoa, but like what if
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: it went you know, and you're like, oh, yeah, okay, cool,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: you know I was like, it's just everyone's kind of
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: insights and tastes all come into play and super fun
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: and our producer for this album, Hire Hernandez, is super talented.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Uh can play every instrument, can sing can you know?
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know. He's incredible And so coming to him
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: with our ideas and him going like he'll get on
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: the mic, you know, be like, I know you're saying
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: it this way, but like what if you went like,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, Okay, I didn't see that coming, you know.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: So that's where having a great producer can come into play.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: They just take what you're doing, amplify it, refine it,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: make it, take it to that next level. He's like
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: an extra band member. So there's you know in a way.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, well talking about talking about Gallows here
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: from my ear personally, yeah, it definitely lands in a
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: goldilocks zone in terms of the music production, where you
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: have some very well produced parts that have that are
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: very polished, and then you have parts that are not
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: as polished, and that is exactly what the scene needs.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: That's what that's what this kind of music deserves. If
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: it's too polished. Mason and I harp on this all
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: the time, and we despise it because it feels so
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: inhuman or what do you want to call it, you know, ingenuous. Yes,
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: this feels very very genuine. It follows a very very
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: fine line where it's not too polished, but the parts
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: where it needs to be really really polished it is.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: And that is that's a very very big breath of
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: fresh air from from Mason and I's ears. Would you
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: would you say that that was kind of like the
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: intention going in with that and is that what Hiro
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: was looking at and trying to do as well?
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Definitely, most definitely he can make something sound pristine and
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: you know, robotic almost sometimes like just really clean, and
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: but he can also make it sound disgusting where it
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: needs to be, which was what we wanted. Was Gallows
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: is actually the next song we're putting out the album
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: titled song, and it's got some gross parts where you're
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: just like, oh yeah, and you just feel you know
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: what I mean, it's just like and then the chorus,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: you know, you want your chorus to store and be
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: you know, anthemic and everything else, and he did a
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: great job of that. So that was definitely the case
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: where we wanted it to have like the grime where
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: it needed it, but also sound up to date. You know,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: It's like, I think there's a careful balance of like
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: you know, some people are released trying to sound vintage
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: these days and maybe at to a fault where you're like, oh,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: it sounds you know, it just doesn't sound good. You're
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: making it sound bad on purpose. But you know, for us,
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: we're like, we need that balance. We need to improve
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: and show you know, evolution, an evolution of the band
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: and and without you know, compromising. I think like our
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: fans are always at the forefront of what we do.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Obviously we want to be happy with what we do,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: which we are. And but you know, the fans are
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: buying tickets to the shows, they're streaming your music. And
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: you know, there was a band at Warp Tour I
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: won't name that. It was like we wrote this for
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: us and only for us, and because we wanted to
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: do this for ourselves, we owed it to ourselves and
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: this and now I'm like, all right, but at the
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: end of the day, like you're not buying your own record,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, You're not writing to come
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: to your band play. I understand you want to enjoy
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: the music you play, you always should, but the fans
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: have been around for years for a reason. They want
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: to hear your sound. They are fans of your sound,
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: so we try to stay true to that and capture
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: recapture our sound, but with like an updated, you know,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: version of us, if that makes any sense.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I like that you. I like that you
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: put it back to the fans and not that you're
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: like trying out to go out and you know, appeal
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: to a super mass market or anything like that. Yeah.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: I was thinking back to your Malkre video and uh,
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: there's one scene in there where, by the way, I
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: laughed like twenty times, there's one there's one scene in
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: there where the gal goes, what if they're butt rock?
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: I feel like that might be a shot fired across
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: a bow of a lot of bands in the scene
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: that that you guys would have come up with. And
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: I I appreciate, Uh, you know, the no no punch
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: is held there because you're not I don't know if
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: you want to call it selling out or whatever, but
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: you're not selling out. You're staying true to yourselves. You're
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: staying true to an older sound with with with modern updates,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: with uh more refined techniques and everything like that. I
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: appreciate that to the degree. Also that music video was
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: not only hysterical, but just really really really good.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: Thank you, I appreciate it. It was, Yeah, it was.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm not trying to offend anyone, but it's
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: just for us. There's so many bands that abandon their sound,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: they abandon the fans. They don't care. They're just trying to,
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: you know, make sure that they get some radio play,
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: which is fun. Like that's the careers, right, it's their livelihoods.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: And I understand some bands really want to hit make
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: it to that next level. And I would love to
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: as well, trust me, like I have, I would love
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: to be to play an amphitheater, you know what I mean.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I love to like headline or an area like that'd
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: be cool. But at the same time, you risk you
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: run the risk of abandoning your fan your fan base.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: And it's like, yeah, that is a huge role of
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: the dice. And because if you don't make it, you've
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: now alienated all your fans and have the po are
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: coming to watch you play, right, you know what I mean?
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Like that hit didn't really hit and yeah, and so
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: I think for us, like if we have a hit,
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be something that sounds authentic to us, like
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: a Hey Baby or you know something like that, where
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: like that's we enjoy playing that kind of music. We're
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: not doing it because we're trying to get on the radio.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: We're just like, let's write a fun summer banger, you
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like it's awesome, it's so cool
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: and so it you know that in like forty days
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: and even like our newest song that we did with
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Dan from Thur of the Year fell so hard, Like
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: those still seem authentic to us, but at the same time,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: you could hear something like that on the radio, but
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: it still has our sound, you know, And I think
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I think we have a rite of passage to that now,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: which is pretty cool, Like hey baby, kind of open
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: that up for us to be able to like throw
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: a couple of those on the record, you know, like
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I said, without sounding like we're trying, you know, too
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: hard to write some kind of radio single or something.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, video that I had seen and I don't remember
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: it was Coachella or something like that, but Bringing Me
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: the Horizon was playing, and like, you know, it's a
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: fan perspective video and there's this this girl that's that's
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: running the camera and everything, and she's like pointing at
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: her friend and all of a sudden, bring Me the
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Horizon goes back to like an original song, like from
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: the early early days, and this girl is like up
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: on the shoulders of one of her friends and she's
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: like dancing, and then the song comes on and she goes,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: what the fuck is this because it was just it
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: was so much heavier and so much more so much
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: more scene, I guess you could say, than what she
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: was used to. And they promptly left. So you're not Yeah,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: you're not selling out to a specific crowd, you're not
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: selling out to the radio. I appreciate it.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, there's nothing, like I said, I
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: don't want to offend anyone that that you know, is
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: their careers. They're trying to it's their livelihood. They're trying to,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: like you know, make make a living off of it,
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: which is amazing. But I feel like if we ever,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: if we ever hit it on the radio, it'll be
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: just you know, by accident, it'll be just because it's good,
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: because a good song that we had fun writing.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it does.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Like with this new album, it does kind of feel like,
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: you know, if if, for example, somebody listened to Witness
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: back in two thousand and nine and then for whatever
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: reason stop listening to you guys for these last sixteen years,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: but then they get back into listening Gallows like it
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: is one of those things where my my guess is
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: the way that they would think about it is oh
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: like that sounds like less yeah, bust of all.
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: Stuck, like they wouldn't they.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's just like that still is blessed the
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Fall to its core, and like, I don't think you
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: guys have moved too far from what your core sound is,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: like whatever you would describe that as, but whatever that is,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: you haven't moved too far from that.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: Like you kind of know what.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Works well, you know what's true to clearly, like true
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: to what the fans really would love to hear from you.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it's been it's been fun doing
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: that for this album too, because it's like it's like
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: an updated you know, nice uh you know, it's just
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: a current version of what we we've always done. And
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I think people listen to us for
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: that reason, and it's like, Okay, we're gonna give you
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: that but it's gonna be bigger and better, that's all.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, speaking of your your voice in particular has
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: held up just about better than anyone's voice in the
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: heavy music scene i've ever heard. Is there is there
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: something that you're doing to keep your voice in that level?
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Are you? You know, taking a dreama chrome or something
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: like that? How doing is that? Is that what Jerry's
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: pizza was all about? You guys were were doing.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: Pizza so funny, it's very niche. No, I mean, I
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: take I try to take care of it on the road.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I don't drink. I don't do drugs. I don't Honestly,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: the worst thing for me, the hardest part for me
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: is not is trying not to talk a lot on tour.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: And I just love friendship and I love like hanging
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: out and so when we have friends come out and
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: I'm like, fuck, I gotta like watch my voice. I
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: gotta go to bed kind of early ish, you know.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: I think it's just that. I think it's just trying to, yeah,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: be responsible for your voice. And it's not always like that.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, like on Warp tour, like this last weekend,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: we played Saturday or we played Sunday, but we got
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: there Saturday. I saw like a hundred people I knew
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: that Saturday night, and I was just talking and like
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: yelling over the music and I could I was like,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: oh fuck, like this is not good, Like thank god,
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: we only have to play thirty minutes tomorrow because I
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: you know, I typically wouldn't do that, you know what
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: I mean. I'd be like quiet, save the voice. I
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: got a show. But yeah, so it's just it's it's
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: a lot of maintenance and just making sure that I'm
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: aware of like just staying up too late or talking
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: too much, or just staying healthy in general, you know,
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: chugging water all the time, stuff like that, and yeah,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: it's just you get back what you put in, so
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: you I just try to put it, put in as
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: much effort as I can. So for the for the headliner,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I gotta get on the bike and get
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: my cardio up, and you know, make sure that I'm
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: practicing all the old songs before even before I get
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: to Arizona to do rehearsals. I'll just do like a
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: lot of pre stuff on my own pre prep. And yeah,
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: it's fun. It's like, you know, it's it's a it
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: is a job. It's it's fun. It's a fun job,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: but it is a job at the end of the day.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Do you practice singing wall crowdsurfing? Like do you like
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: lay it? Like do you like lay down on your
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: couch and like sing, you know while you're like jostling
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: around and stuff.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: That would because that's a hard position to say, it
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: really is, you know, it's so funny. I'd be a
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: great like skit. That'd be a great like to talk
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: of like practicing like like laying down and then like
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: it it cuts to like me live like on the
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: crowd like singing. That would be really funny. Oh I don't,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: but I think riding like I do, like the Assault
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: bike and just and then I'll go run when it's
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: that time for a headline, I'll go run laps and
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: try to sing the set while I'm running, and wo wow,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: it's really hard. It's no joke. Like I did that.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: So yeah. For for Hollow Bodies Store, because we had
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: been off the road for years, I was like so
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: worried that I was just gonna be just gas after
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: like the half set. So I was like literally on
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: the track like running and like trying to sing while
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: running and running out of breath, and I was like,
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: you know this is crazy and so all that, you know, yeah,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: just max effort. It's just max effort trying new things.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: I was like riding the bike with this like oxygen
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: mask that like restricts a bit of your oxygen to recreate,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: like the elevator like and it's it's an elevation map
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: they call it. And you know, just like I don't know,
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: just like little things like that where I feel like
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: that might put me a step ahead or just have
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: me as as ready as possible. Like I said, every night,
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: like you play, you're playing front of your crowd every night,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: so they don't get to see what you did the
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: night before. They don't get you know what I mean,
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: Like if you're tired, they don't you know what I mean,
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Like they don't care. This is their They paid money
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: to see you tonight. So it's like you gotta be
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: on right. You got to be like have your best
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: forward and be ready to rock.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: So I think I'm gonna have to convince people that
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I'm in Norman Gene. Uh So that can be my
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: excuse of why I'm screaming them when I go around
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: the run around.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: The lake, They're like, what the fuck is that guy doing?
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like, why is this guy screaming as he's running?
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: You look so psychotic?
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah?
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Do you when you when you go out running?
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Do you?
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Uh? Do you do you do it in public? Like
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: like where there's a lot of other people around?
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Or I mean I'm like, you know, I'm like out
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: of track. But I mean, if there's people there, I'm
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: not I'll probably just hum. I'll be humming the song,
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: you know, but listening to the tracks like humming hum
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: and stuff. But when there's no one there, I'm trying
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: to actually sing sing it out loud, you know, as
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: long as I can. So yeah, I don't want to
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: scare anyone. Yeah that was awesome.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Well, uh bo you ready to dive into your top
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: five most influential albums?
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what. I love this because I was
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: not prepared. But I'm gonna I'm gonna just sit here
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: and kind of rewind and feel and think about what
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: records really got me into music in general. I will say,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: just off the top, I don't know, this is like
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: in no particular d I think I remember walking into
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: a record store and I saw no effects heavy Petting
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Zoo and it's it's a man with the sheep in
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: his lap, and you can kind of imagine it's no effects.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: So it's yeah, it's it's no effects.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: And I was like, what is this ship? This is crazy,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: I'm buying it, like whatever. So I bought it and
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: I was in love. I was like, oh my god,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: what it like? This is so cool. And their lyrics
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: and they're like their tongue in cheek, you know what
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, Like they're so I don't know, they're just
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: they're so themselves and the energy and so that was
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: that was one of them. So no effects heavy Petancy
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: was definitely one of them. Black Album by Metaca was
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: huge for me. That was when you could hear and
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: and you know, bands have all tried to replicate that album,
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: you know, like we got a nickelback from it, you know,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. Where like but they were the originals
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: and it wasn't considered butt rock yet. You hear it
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: now you're like, oh, this is very much the beginning
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: of of what like butt rock would be. But it's
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: just like bands took it ruined it. But the Black Album, yeah,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: for me, was like a masterpiece. And everything, And I
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: remember like sitting there and like daydreaming and just thinking
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: about all these like crazy his like the lyrics were
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: so dark and the music was so dark, and the
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: music videos were so cool. Yeah, and so that was
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: that was a huge record for me, Blink wanting to
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, why can't I think Dude Ranch was?
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, every Blink record, I'm a huge That's my
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: favorite band. So Dude Ranch again, I would listen to
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: when I went to sleep. I just put my headphones
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: on and it would just and the last song on
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: the album has this part that just like keeps going.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: It's just like this fast beat and then this riff
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: and he's like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and it's just
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: like and it's like keeps going and like just goes
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: and goes and goes and fades out. And I like
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: would just falsely to that. And so again, this is
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: a band who is completely themselves. Their lyrics are funny,
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean. They got these like really
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: funny lyrics, but then also really emo lyrics at the
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: same time with some of their other songs. And I
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: was like, this is a great balance of like everything
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: I like. And so dude, Ranch, I would say, Oasis,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: what's the story of Morning Glory?
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: Was sure?
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Was huge? Like I was again, just made me feel something,
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: you know, like it just made made me feel something.
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: I didn't know if it was cool or not, you know,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: I was just like this is this is like impactful
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: to me. And I listened to that album like over
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: and over again.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: And then do you ever wish that you could just
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: get the Gallagher brothers to just get along?
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Well, they're getting along right now, and it's crazy because
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: people are like, do you think they'll make that? And
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like, they won't make it the whole tour, Like
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: that's my It just never happens.
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: It never happens every time they try it. Never.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: They're kind of having like a resurgence of popularity right
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: now too.
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: I keep seeing them all over the place. I mean,
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: obviously they've always been popular.
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: About touring for the first time and however many years
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: and getting along. Yeah, so that record for sure, and
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: then you know, it's hard to it's hard to pick
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: like a fifth I'll say, like as far as who
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: I am today being like minor threat, just all the records,
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: you know, I think they only had like three or
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: two or three or something like that. But you know
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: at a step right like those those songs. I'm straight
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: edge because of I know what straightedge is because of
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: minor threat. And I watched their like Live nine thirty
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Club DVD a million times and watching this is before
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: I've had ever gone to a show. And I'm watching
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: people stage nive and like scream into the mic, and
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: I'm like, what is going on?
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: Like this is the you can just do this.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you can just go there and do that
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: somewhere like that is insane. And so that was you
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: just for me where I was like, you know, I
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: didn't do drugs, I didn't drink all that stuff. I
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: didn't know what that meant. And then I found straight
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: edge and because of my threat and was like I
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: identified with that, and I had had a label, you know,
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: I had to like be part of a group. I
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: could be part of a movement. So that alone, you know,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: not to mention the music, but you know, just that
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: alone culturally like just really shaped to who I was.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: And and I guess also just like stage stay stuff
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: I get. You know, Ian was one of the coolest
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: front men on Earth and totally yeah, he was just
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: like so like humble, and like come come get the mic,
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: come get the you know. So I took a lot
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: of that and so and and applied it to my
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: live show.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: I love that.
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: That's awesome. That's awesome.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: I feel like hardcore. Yeah, I feel like hardcore.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Has like ruined my ability to go to any other
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: kind of show because like I just immediately assumed that
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I have the right to be on the stage with.
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: The yes yes, and just like in general, you're like, oh,
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: you're not bringing that energy, Like.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: That's the part that always gets me.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like if you're if it's not like an interactive
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: thing where I'm gonna, you know, be burned in twelve
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: hundred calories during the show as well.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I don't really want to be a part
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: of it totally. Yeah, that's so funny. Yeah, we are spoiled,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: we are.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: It's true.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: So it's true.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, uh bo, what.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: Do you want to plug?
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: Obviously a new album coming out here in just over
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: a month on September fifth, I believe, yeah, and obviously
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: you guys will be playing shows soon and stuff too,
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: So yeah, what do you want to say?
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just the album, like you know, I am so
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: proud of it, and I hope everyone else feels the
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: same way I feel about it because I can listen
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: to the record. I listened to it all the time.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: I always I played in the car, you know, multiple
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: times a day, and I'm just like, oh man, okay,
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: it makes me feel a certain way. I hopefully it
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: just does that for everyone else. It was, uh, and
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: then just going out on tour with Miss may I,
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: color Blind, Dark Divine with some special guests in some cities.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: What was me dropping a gorgeous stuff like that and
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: just bringing back that old school, that old school feel
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: with you know, two newer bands with us and but
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: us and this may I being sort of like the
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: Grizzled Veterans, And uh, I hope you know, I think
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: fans of metalcore and are going to have an absolute
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: blasted our show. It's a great ticket price stuff like that.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: So I know, there's like a billion tours going on,
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: so I hope they choose ours, because then it's going
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: to be a great time. So yeah, come out and party.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it. There are just so many great
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: bands to.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: So many it's crazy. I don't know how people choose.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know how people choose.
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: It's you don't have to choose if you just go
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: to all.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: I know, it's like you got I literally work that.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: People probably literally work their jobs so they can go
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: see all the bands a like, because it's.
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: With all like a budget line in there. It's a
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: it's a budget line item now for them.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: For sure, it literally is in my budget. I have
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: money set aside to go.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: To Yeah, yeah, you gotta gotta.
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: Right, uh both anything else you'd like to plug?
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just kind of wanted to tell a quick story.
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: A lot of people don't know this about me, but
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: I was actually a backup dancer, uh for Justin simmer
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: Lake at one point, and not many people know that. Yeah,
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: it was really crazy. So like the Sexy Back Tour,
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: really I was in the background, you know, some of
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: his music videos stuff like that. So if you pause
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: some of his music videos you might be able to
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: catch me back there.
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: So in the shirtless well was this?
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah? Was this also some.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: With shirts some without Yeah on the tour ye on
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: the Sexy Back Tour. So yeah, I kind of still
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: integrate some of those moves into our lives that you
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: might have seen it. Yeah, dang.
• 49:59
  Speaker 5: How old do you better on this? This is like eighteen,
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: nineteen twenty or something.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, so like when was a Sexy back Tours?
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: Probably like two thousand and four or something like that.
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I have like twenty early twenties.
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: Then, yeah, that's amazing. You know what I think you
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: should do for the upcoming tour is I think you
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: should get an all Denhim outfit, including a Denham cowboy hat,
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: just like Justin did with Britney back.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: In this it's like our boy JT. I know, I've
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: always wanted to do it. I'm gonna I'm actually going
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: shopping right after this, and that's one of the things
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: on my list.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: You see. The fun thing about this is that this
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: will this will everyone will think that you're referencing Sydney Sweeney.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Did she do that?
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: Actually referencing is Justin Timberlake.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Did our girl Sidney do that? Is that her thing?
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: It's a It's all over the internet right now. Yeah,
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: it's a big it's a big conspiracy apparently too.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: I don't know what what's the conspiracy? Tell me I'm
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: here for.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know that she's like that she's a Nazi
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: or something. Now. I don't quite understand the behind it.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: But okay, yeah, yeah.
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: Just because she wore some dunum.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: I guess it has it's something to do with a
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: Levi's ad, but I haven't been to it deep enough
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: to like quite understand all the references.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: But yeah, hilarious.
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: What a what a leap?
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: I know?
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd say people really jump to those.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: I guess it's the point of a conspiracy. It feels
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: it feels like a little bit more of a leap
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: than normal.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so funny.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Holy count Yeah, well, uh that's uh, that's super cool.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to go back and watch some of
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: those live videos from twenty years ago or whenever it was,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: and uh see uh see you running around.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: I might post a clip on Instagram as like a
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: throwback Thursday. Do people still do you throw back Thursdays?
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: I mean, if they don't, you definitely need to bring
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: it back.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: I think it's a lot Okay, Okay, yeah, I don't know.
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: If that's that was very like millennial of me to
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: do a throwback Thursday tvt oh.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: Man, you post it with a BuzzFeed article, then you're yeah, Okay, cool, cool,
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: because that's super and.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Like a Tumblr these days, like a Tumblr link of
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: some kind.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, perfect, exactly, exactly, well both, thank you so
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: much for chatting more about the new album, your your history,
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: and the band just.
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: Really really stoked about the new album coming out, so.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for so much for chatting, and hopefully we
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: can hang out again sometimes.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Sorts man, Thank you guys so much for your time.
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: I'll see you soon.