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Hutton & Withrow: NFL Week 7 Picks & Predictions, Conrad Thompson's WrestleMania Treasure and CFP Rankings Debate | Hour 2 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: So I can't wait to talk to him. Before that, though,
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  Speaker 1: it's time for one big thing on every NFL game
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  Speaker 1: for Week 7. Chad, the buys this week, Buffalo, Jacksonville,
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers, and the Commanders. Entering Week 7, NFL favorites
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  Speaker 1: are 57-35-1 straight up. 57-35-1. 61% with home favorites at 33-21-1. So, again,
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  Speaker 1: just straight up, 57-35-1. Vegas is telling you they know.
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  Speaker 1: But the favorites have covered the spread just 43% of
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  Speaker 1: the time through six weeks. It's back at it tonight,
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: Thursday night football. Patriots and Bears, both teams 4-2. Mike
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  Speaker 1: Vrabel's Patriots, they travel to Soldier Field. Short week, they
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  Speaker 1: beat the Jets 26-19. Now they square off against Ben
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  Speaker 1: Johnson and the Bears, who enter off of a road
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  Speaker 1: win in Atlanta. Caleb Williams and Drake May, they're in
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  Speaker 1: this primetime matchup here. And Chicago leans on the NFL's
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  Speaker 1: number one rushing attack and Dennis Allen's number eight run defense.
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  Speaker 1: So New England, what happens here? Because can they run
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  Speaker 1: the football? Their interior offensive line is really banged up, Chad.
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  Speaker 1: Up to three backups will start up front for Mike
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  Speaker 1: Brable's team. Bears are favored by two and a half
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  Speaker 1: at hard rock bet. And they lean on that rushing offense. Again,
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  Speaker 1: two and a half. I tend to lean home team
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  Speaker 1: tonight based on the injuries up front for New England.
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  Speaker 2: Hutton, it feels like everything was negative for the Patriots
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  Speaker 2: and Mike Vrabel, going back to Diana Rossini. All offseason,
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  Speaker 2: Drake May looks bad to start the season. Oh, boy,
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  Speaker 2: maybe we got ahead of our skis with him. He
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  Speaker 2: doesn't look very good. Didn't they go to Buffalo and
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  Speaker 2: give the Bills their first loss in that new stadium?
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  Speaker 2: And that feels like a turning point for this Patriots
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  Speaker 2: team from that point on. Now they're 4-2 on the season,
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  Speaker 2: a big road opportunity. The Bears a slight favorite. But
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  Speaker 2: I like what this Patriots team has done ever since
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  Speaker 2: that win that I just mentioned in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, you know what? Mike Vrabel can coach. That's why.
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  Speaker 1: He's really good in certain moments. Football guy. He's a
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  Speaker 1: football guy. Sunday night football. Chiefs and Seahawks. Running back
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  Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker III. He's returning to Seattle. And he's taking
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  Speaker 1: on Mike McDonald's Seahawks. They've dropped two straight nail biters.
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  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, he wants to. get targets to Jackson Smith
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  Speaker 1: and Jigba even more. And Smith and Jigba is the
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  Speaker 1: NFL's most productive receiver through six weeks. They also want
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  Speaker 1: to get Cooper Cupp more involved. Seattle, two and a
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  Speaker 1: half point favorite at home despite two straight losses. That
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  Speaker 1: puts Kansas City in this rare plus money underdog spot.
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  Speaker 1: Plus 120. It is hard for me not to take
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  Speaker 1: the unbeaten Chiefs with plus money, Chad, on the road.
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  Speaker 2: Tough to not bet Chiefs money line or 49ers money
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  Speaker 2: line right now.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt. Those undefeated teams. I'm with you. I like
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: If I'm going something on this game with Hard Rock Bet,
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  Speaker 2: I'm taking Chiefs Moneyline.
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys and Eagles, two and four teams. It is NFC
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  Speaker 1: East survival mode on Monday Night Football at Lincoln Financial Field.
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  Speaker 1: Sirianna's Eagles, they've lost four consecutive games for the first
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  Speaker 1: time since 2020. They've also lost Jalen Hurts for the
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  Speaker 1: remainder of the season. Brian Schottenheimer's Cowboys, also at two
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  Speaker 1: and four. But the Cowboys are laying four and a
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  Speaker 1: half points on the road in Philadelphia. which is telling
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  Speaker 1: you about this massive downgrade to the Eagles' offense without Hurts.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard for me to ignore that. I'm taking Dallas
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  Speaker 1: on the road Monday night, despite what we've seen from
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys at the 2-4 record. Sunday morning, Steelers and
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  Speaker 1: Saints in Paris. Both teams coming off week six wins.
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  Speaker 1: Both teams hit the over four out of the six
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  Speaker 1: weeks this season. The over-under of this game is 44.5
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  Speaker 1: at Hard Rock Bet. Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers, He gets
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  Speaker 1: the ball to DK Metcalf and running back Jalen Warren
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  Speaker 1: against a Saints defense whose games have averaged 55 total
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  Speaker 1: points combined. They're always high scoring. And again, the over-under
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  Speaker 1: in this game, 44.5. Steelers, they're minus 2.5 to 3.5
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  Speaker 1: depending on where you were in the week when you
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  Speaker 1: took this game. Right now it's 3.5 at Hard Rock Bet.
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  Speaker 1: Neutral site. their favorites, the Steelers, in France.
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  Speaker 2: Hutton, nothing says smash-mouth, hard-nosed Steelers football like gay Paris
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  Speaker 2: and playing a game in the morning backstage sides in Paris.
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  Speaker 2: What an absolute joke.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: These games, they have left everything that's reasonable about the sport.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. Put a team in Europe already.
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  Speaker 2: If you're going to do this, give Europe a team
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  Speaker 2: and then let teams go play the actual team that's
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  Speaker 2: in Paris or London.
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  Speaker 3: Fair enough.
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  Speaker 2: Or wherever they place that team, because this is getting absurd.
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  Speaker 2: I care less and less about these damn international games.
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  Speaker 2: Every single week they happen, because they happen every single week.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to go up to 10 games next year,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like, international. And by the way, this is
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  Speaker 1: literally Project Runway out in Paris.
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  Speaker 2: The college football playoff committee and the college football gets
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  Speaker 2: all the grief about being money-driven and greedy and 2014
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  Speaker 2: playoff all about the money. I hate to break it
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  Speaker 2: to you, 2014 playoff, they're making no more money. Based
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  Speaker 2: on all the numbers, eliminating those conference championship games, they
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  Speaker 2: break even on it. It truly is about access to
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  Speaker 2: more teams getting into the 2014 playoff. If you want
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  Speaker 2: to get on to somebody about being greedy and money hungry,
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  Speaker 2: look no further than Steelers Saints and Gay Paris at St.
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  Speaker 2: Denis Stadium in Paris, France at 8 a.m. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 2: 8.30 a.m. on a Sunday morning.
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  Speaker 1: They'll make up that money with the playoff whenever they
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  Speaker 1: get these games scattered across Amazon and Netflix. Late afternoon kickoffs. Sunday, 425.
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  Speaker 1: Packers and Lions. Good game here.
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  Speaker 3: 4-2, 3-2.
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  Speaker 1: The Packers have won three straight games. They're now at 4-2.
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  Speaker 1: They beat Dallas last week. Dan Campbell's Lions, they're coming
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  Speaker 1: off a bye week. They return from their week six
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  Speaker 1: bye with two of the best offensive weapons through the
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  Speaker 1: first month and a half of the season. Jared Goff,
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  Speaker 1: 12 touchdowns, no interceptions. Jameer Gibbs, nine total touchdowns of
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  Speaker 1: the season. And the pass rush for the Packers. Micah Parsons,
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  Speaker 1: he remains out, but he's eyeing A November return from
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  Speaker 1: his torn ACL. That's just around the corner. And they're
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  Speaker 1: right now at 4-2. This is the highest total of
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  Speaker 1: the week, Chad. 52, now up to 53.5. With Detroit,
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  Speaker 1: they're laying 3.5 off the bye. I tend to go
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  Speaker 1: lines here at home. I tend to go lines. I
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  Speaker 1: tend to go over. Let's get a shootout.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get a good old-fashioned shootout where defenses normally win now.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get a shootout in this game. I can't wait.
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  Speaker 1: What to expect with the Rams on the road in Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: It's 3-3 Raiders. Two and four Rams. You've got Kirk Cousins.
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  Speaker 1: He's tied for the NFL lead with 14 touchdown passes.
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  Speaker 1: He's facing a Rams secondary, though, that ranks second in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL in pass defense. So the Rams, they have
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  Speaker 1: the same ranking on pass defense as they do with
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  Speaker 1: their passing offense. They're also second in the NFL. And
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  Speaker 1: despite that record, the Rams are road favorites. Right now
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  Speaker 1: it's at minus four at hard rock bet. And this
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  Speaker 1: is a mismatch in total defense. But I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: defensive front for the Raiders is pretty good. And we'll
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  Speaker 1: see if Vegas can stick with the upset challenge. But
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  Speaker 1: I tend to think, Chad, that the Vegas Raiders are
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  Speaker 1: going to slowly turn back towards the mean. And I
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  Speaker 1: think the Rams turn it on. There's only a matter
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  Speaker 1: of time before they start to click.
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  Speaker 2: To quote Matt Foley, and use my fake glasses, is
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  Speaker 2: that Tom Brady over there?
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  Speaker 1: I can't see.
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  Speaker 2: My eyesight's not very good. Tom Brady is in the
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  Speaker 2: front office of this team. He's not playing quarterback. And
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  Speaker 2: while I love Kirk Cousins and what he's done so far,
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  Speaker 2: the inevitable is going to happen to the Raiders.
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  Speaker 1: It's got to start now. And it's got to start
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  Speaker 1: now for the Rams, too.
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  Speaker 2: I love Rams' money line in this game to go
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  Speaker 2: on the road and win because two things are bound
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  Speaker 2: to happen. The Raiders are going to take a fall
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  Speaker 2: and plummet, and the Rams are going to take a
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  Speaker 2: step up at some point.
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  Speaker 1: It's got to start this weekend. Broncos, they went last week.
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  Speaker 1: They're at 4-2. They hit the road to take on
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  Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals at 2-4. So the Broncos had 10
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  Speaker 1: days between games. Both teams coming off of wins, though.
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  Speaker 1: The Cardinals, they've allowed 178 points through six weeks. A
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  Speaker 1: low-scoring game, though the score should be lopsided due to
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  Speaker 1: Denver's defense. And I say low-scoring. Denver's defense has this
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  Speaker 1: over-under at 43.5. Broncos, right now, minus 4 on the road.
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  Speaker 1: Taking on Arizona. Early afternoon kickoffs. Bengals and Ravens. Solid
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: matchup here. Ravens looking to return home and get back
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  Speaker 1: on track after last week's loss. The Bengals, they had
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  Speaker 1: last week off. Lamar Jackson he was not seen at
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  Speaker 1: the start of practice yesterday he's missed the last two
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  Speaker 1: games due to his ankle injury so Tyler Huntley would
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  Speaker 1: be starting in his place and the line on this
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  Speaker 1: game you see the Bengals are favored at minus one
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens opened this week at Hard Rock Bend at
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  Speaker 1: minus three and a half And then the news came
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  Speaker 1: out about Lamar Jackson, and everything has turned back towards
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  Speaker 1: the Bengals due to that injury. Derrick Henry, though, seven
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  Speaker 1: touchdowns in six games. Zay Flowers with nearly 500 yards receiving.
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  Speaker 1: They're carrying this Baltimore offense. But here's Joe Burrow. He's
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  Speaker 1: thrown for 11 touchdowns, three interceptions in five games, and
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  Speaker 1: four of those have been to Jamar Chase. They're going
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: to get theirs. Can the Ravens withstand another game? They've
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  Speaker 1: split games, one and one, without Lamar Jackson. When they
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  Speaker 1: get him back, Can they still withhold a winning record?
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  Speaker 1: They were able to maintain that a bit last year.
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  Speaker 1: Can they do it again? This is a good Cincinnati team,
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  Speaker 1: a big spot for the Bengals on the road.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big spot for Joe Burrow, not just
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  Speaker 2: this game but this season. This is a real opportunity
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  Speaker 2: with no Lamar Jackson, with the Ravens for multiple weeks now.
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  Speaker 2: The Browns are the story of that division. You've got
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers in his retirement tour with the Steelers. I
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  Speaker 2: think a great opportunity for Cincinnati this year. to get
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  Speaker 2: something done. And Joe Burrow, to stay healthy and prove
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  Speaker 2: that he's the Joe Burrow that we saw lead that
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  Speaker 2: team to the Super Bowl not so long ago. So
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  Speaker 2: I think a big spot here for Cincinnati to go
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  Speaker 2: on the road and win.
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  Speaker 1: A tough game for Cincinnati. You're right. And then you've
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  Speaker 1: got the other opponents in the division. The Steelers have
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  Speaker 1: the Saints, and the Browns get the Titans. So you
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  Speaker 1: want to stay within that 4-2, 5-2 record, so to speak.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: 1 o'clock Eastern. the 49ers at 6-0 against the Falcons,
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  Speaker 1: who are 2-4. The 49ers, they're flying east on short
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  Speaker 1: rest after, what is it, Sunday night or Monday night
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  Speaker 1: football they play, Chad? They played on Monday night. Okay,
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: so they're playing Monday night. Now they're flying east, and
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  Speaker 1: they play early for them, early kickoff for them in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: They're without Nick Bosa. They're without Debo Samuel. They're likely
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  Speaker 1: without Mike Evans. Niners are favored by three, but Chad,
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  Speaker 1: your guy, Michael Pinnix with an X, coming off of
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  Speaker 1: a solid start. Point total at 50.5. I took the
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  Speaker 1: over already at Hard Rock Bet. I like it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you on that one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going over also with you. All right. Colts and Vikings.
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  Speaker 1: Minnesota returns from their bye week. Indianapolis arrives in just disarray.
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  Speaker 1: They fired their 10-year general manager, Chris Ballard, and they
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: have a head coach who knows he's not going to
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: be the head coach next season. They're taking on Brian Flores' defense.
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  Speaker 1: Vikings open at 5.5. It's up to 6 right now
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  Speaker 1: at Hard Rock Bet. It wasn't up to 6.5. It's
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  Speaker 1: gone back to 6. take the Vikings and feel confident
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  Speaker 1: in that. Buccaneers and Panthers. By the way, Vikings undefeated.
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  Speaker 2: Just still adjusting to that when I see their record.
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  Speaker 1: Just want to throw that out there.
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  Speaker 2: Just that's still an adjustment for me and probably everyone
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  Speaker 2: that the Minnesota Vikings are still undefeated at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Bryce Young for the Panthers. He's been one of the
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  Speaker 1: most productive quarterbacks this season. Baker Mayfield, though, he's battling
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: a throwing hand thumb injury that prevented him from even
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  Speaker 1: gripping the football last week. Emeka Ibuka missed Wednesday's practice
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: with a postgame concussion. He's got a foot injury as well.
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  Speaker 1: Bucky Irving has an illness. Panthers favored by three at
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  Speaker 1: Hard Rock Bet at home. I tend to like Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: I'm contemplating that right now. Giants and Texans. D'Amico Ryans
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  Speaker 1: brings the 2-4 Texans back from London without a bye.
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  Speaker 1: The G-Men, they turned the offense over to J.J. McCarthy,
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  Speaker 1: who played the second half against the Saints last week.
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  Speaker 1: His passing game coordinator is Brian Callahan. That's why I'm
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: taking the Houston Texans back. Minus 10.5 in this game
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  Speaker 1: at home. Dolphins and Jets. I love your logic.
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  Speaker 2: I'm following your logic there, Hutton, and I approve of
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: everything that you just said.
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  Speaker 1: Dolphins and Jets. You've got the 0-5 Dolphins. The Jets
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  Speaker 1: are 2-4. This is the AFC East-Celler matchup. Jets averaged
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  Speaker 1: just 18 points per game, though Brees Hall could return
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  Speaker 1: from his injury that kept him sidelined. Jets, minus 4.5
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  Speaker 1: at home. Their home favorites here are low total, 39.5.
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  Speaker 1: Weather's going to be perfect, though, in East Rutherford. Can
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  Speaker 1: the Dolphins get their first win of the season? I
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: think this is an upset pick with Miami on the
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: road on Sunday. And finally, Browns and Titans. Titans can
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  Speaker 1: win back-to-back games for the first time in nearly three years,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: November of 2023. The Browns also coming off of a
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  Speaker 1: victory last Sunday, and they boast one of the top
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  Speaker 1: defenses against the run. The Titans released Jordan Elliott. They
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: benched Alante Taylor. Lowest total on the Week 7 board, 36,
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  Speaker 1: now up to 37 right now at Hard Rock Bet.
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  Speaker 1: Up to 37. Way to go, boys. Up to 37.
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  Speaker 1: Got some good practice reports in. Cleveland laying the 1.5
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  Speaker 1: on the road. That's because the Titans averaged an NFL
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: low 14 points per game, and they have cashed the
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: under in four of their six games. Solid.
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  Speaker 2: Solid work by that Titans offense. I think they got
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: word that Gunnar Helm scored a touchdown. in practice one
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: day this week and said, you know what?
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  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go one half more point to get that thing
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  Speaker 2: up to a little bit higher. I have zero interest
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: in watching this football game. I have zero interest in
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: watching this football game on Sunday. I will watch it.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: Maybe even at some point, we'll bring you a quick
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: Titans post-game instant reaction to one of these games here
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  Speaker 2: on the YouTube channel. We need to do that very soon.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: But maybe this week will spark some of that. To
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: be honest, though, I watch these games and I think–
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: There's nothing to react to most of the time. I'm
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: watching the first half of Titans-Colts, and I'm thinking, what
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: do you even say about what we're witnessing right now?
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  Speaker 1: It's a repeat.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Let's hope that this team and the combination of Deshaun Watson,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Cam Ward, Browns, Titans, on the same NFL football field
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  Speaker 2: together at once, maybe will give us something to react
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  Speaker 2: to where we can have.
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  Speaker 1: A live reaction. It's a Browns takeover, too. You know that. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: for sure.
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  Speaker 2: You know why? Because they have actual football fans with
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  Speaker 2: the Browns. And the Titans have run all their actual
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: football fans off, except for save a few, 3,000, 4,000
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  Speaker 2: that show up every week.
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  Speaker 1: Come one, come all, Cleveland Browns fans to cheer on
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson as he takes on the Tennessee Titans in
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: the final season at Nissan Stadium.
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• 16:38
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• 16:43
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• 16:46
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• 17:13
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• 18:46
  Speaker 1: If you love pro wrestling from any era, you know
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Conrad Thompson, the co-host alongside Bruce Prichard, JBL, Jim Ross, Bischoff,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: and others, including our friend Jeff Jarrett. He's one of
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: the top historians of pro wrestling. He has the memorabilia
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: collection to back it up, and he's auctioning off one
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: of those items among the famous artifacts in professional wrestling history,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the Intercontinental Championship belt from the Golden Era. Famous lineage,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: including the Ricky Steamboat versus Macho Man Randy Savage match
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: at WrestleMania III. Conrad, thank you for the time, man.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Hope things are well.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: Hey, man. Thanks for having me on. I appreciate the
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: opportunity to come on and talk a little wrestling.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man. So take us back. How did this piece
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: of history come into your possession? And how do you
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: come about these rare items from wrestling history?
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Well, I started collecting belts in 2013 and I stumbled
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: into the big gold belt, which may actually be the
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: most coveted belt. And I just thought this was fun.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: I want to be like the Indiana Jones treasure hunter
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: of these old artifacts. So I just set out to
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: fill up. my home bookcase i had like a uh
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: a home studio set up and a bunch of bookshelves
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: and i thought let's fill it with ring use titles
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: let's go on a chase it was fun so through
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: networking i collected uh quite a few and then in
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: 2018 i I had a fan in the Northeast reach
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: out and say, Hey, I've got a pair of Andre's
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: boots and the first intercontinental title. Are you interested? So
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: I jumped at the chance to get that fast forward
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: a couple of years and Pat Patterson sadly passed away.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: And as the story goes, Vince wanted to do a
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: tribute to Pat on SmackDown that Friday, and they were
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: going to do something special for the intercontinental title. And
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: he casually mentioned, Hey, let's get Pat's belt out there
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: on TV so we can pay homage to the first belt.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: And someone had to remind him. Sir, we don't actually
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: own that. And my buddy Bruce Prichard spoke up and said,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: but I know who does. So Bruce gave me a
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: call and said, Hey, Vince wants to buy the belt.
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Would you sell me the first intercontinental? And I said, Bruce,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: I'm a collector. I don't want to sell. I'm not
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: into that, but I would do a trade. So he said, okay,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I'll take it back to him. What do you want? Well,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: I want Randy Savage's WrestleMania three intercontinental. And as Bruce
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: tells me, he goes to Vince and says, Hey, he
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: won't sell it, but he'll trade it. What does he want?
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Savage is intercontinental from WrestleMania three. And supposedly Vince said
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: something like forget Savage. Maybe he didn't say forget. Let's
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: get Pat's belt. So they sent me a FedEx label.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: I overnighted it. The belt was on SmackDown and that
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: following Monday, I couldn't believe it, but I had the
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: intercontinental from WrestleMania three.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: That's badass. That's awesome. So bidding has already climbed well
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: past what six figures now. How can people go about
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: checking this out? And from a collector's standpoint, how popular
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: is the high-end pro wrestling market for memorabilia compared to
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: other collectibles and card shows and all that? This is
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: going well past those numbers.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: It really is, and it caught me off guard. I've
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: been collecting, as I said, since 2013, and I used
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: to buy Ric Flair robes for $ 8, 000 or $ 9, 000, but
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: I sold one two years ago for $ 175, 000, and that's
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: when I realized, okay, things are turning around. But it
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: was earlier this year when Hulk Hogan's boots from WrestleMania
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: one sold for a million dollars that I had to
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: set up and pay attention. I had passed on those
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: boots two years ago when they were offered to me
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: privately for 60,000. Cause I thought who's paying 60 grand
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: for yellow boots. No thanks. But then someone had the
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: genius idea to photo match those boots. And what do
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: you know? They photo match to WrestleMania one. Even Hogan
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: didn't know those were the WrestleMania one boots. And then
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: they followed that up with a sale of Hogan's title
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: from WrestleMania two. And that's kind of the forgotten WrestleMania.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: It was him and King Kong Bundy in LA, but
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: it was that weird WrestleMania where they tried a simulcast
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: in three different towns on the same night. Anyway, WrestleMania
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: three is the most celebrated WrestleMania of all time. And
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: I just thought, Hey, with this auction ending the same
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: weekend of the 40 year anniversary of when that savage
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: steamboat feud started, and the WWE just started selling replicas
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: of this title this month, it felt like the perfect time.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: We've seen the WrestleMania I collectible for a million. We've
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: seen the WrestleMania II collectible for $ 414, 000. So I thought,
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: why not try this much more famous WrestleMania and this
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: much more iconic belt? And we built a whole website
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: around it called WrestlemaniaBelt.com. We've got the entire history of
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: how the belt was made, all the stats, all the facts,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: all the newspaper clippings. And the auction ends this Saturday.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: Knock on wood, it's at 125 plus the buyer's premium.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: The estimate was 300 grand, but I'm trying to set
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: a record. So we'll see how it goes.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Get that up. Yeah, no doubt about it.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Conrad, you've had such an interesting career. Our boss here
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: at Sporting State, Clay Travis, he was a lawyer, then
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: a writer, then a radio host, then a podcaster, and
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: then a mortgage company owner eventually.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: And the owner of many companies, right?
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: You learned about the media business through your mortgage company
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: and advertising with the mortgage company. And then, of course,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: the connection to Ric Flair and now being in the family.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: What was that like? Did you feel like you were
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: starting with an advantage, given your knowledge of advertising in
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: the industry when you started this?
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: For sure. You know, I became an accidental podcaster. I'd
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: been doing live radio hits. I actually advertised on Clay's
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: radio show in Nashville many, many moons ago. And so
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: I knew the power of advertising mortgages on sports talk radio.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: And so it was something I was interested in and
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: I had done it for a long, long time. But
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: when I befriended Rick around that same time, maybe a
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: year later, he got an offer from his agent saying, Hey,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: CBS wants to give you a podcast. And so he said, Hey,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: can you make any money with a podcast? How does
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: it work? So he actually handed me his phone and
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: made me show him on his phone, like where the
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: podcast app was and how it worked and all that.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: So he signed the deal because he thought, Hey, this
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: is a good opportunity for me to promote my stuff
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: and maybe make a little money. Well, fast forward, he
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: called me a week out from his first episode and
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: he said, Hey, I'm nervous. Can you come in the
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: studio and just ask me fan questions? And I said,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: what do you mean? You're the greatest talker of all time.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: And he said, yeah, but it would just be me
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: in a microphone. I want to talk to someone. Could
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: you come in the studio and just ask me fan questions?
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: And I thought, sure. And I had been lucky enough
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: to fill in for a couple of my radio buddies.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Whenever they would have a vacation, they'd get guests hosts. Well,
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: they'd have me come in once every now and again.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: So I was prepared and I took in like six
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: pages of notes. And CBS kind of looked at me like, Hey,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: who the heck is this guy? But at the end
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: of the episode, they said, Hey, that was pretty good.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Can you come back next week? So I became an
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: accidental podcaster. And very quickly I realized, Hey, you know,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: I've been paying six figures to advertise my mortgage company
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: in middle Tennessee and North Alabama, but people all over
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: the country can hear this and I'm not paying for it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: I should expand my licensing footprint. So now I'm licensed
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: in all 50 States and this became my unpaid advertising arm.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: And so instead of paying to be on someone else's antenna.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I have my own now, if that makes sense.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Because we told you one of these before you even
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: joined us. Do you ever get tired of hearing Ric
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Flair stories when people meet you or talk to you
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: that they want to share their Ric Flair story with you?
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not. No, I can't get enough of it. And
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: every time I visit him, I leave with a new
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: story too. I recently learned that he is banned from
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: rideshare apps. I won't say which one, but there is
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: one that will no longer accept Richard Morgan Fleer as
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: a passenger, which tickled me to no end.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Incredible.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Hey, the wrestling documentary and sports documentary, I feel like
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: it is a business and a level of sports entertainment
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: that lends itself perfectly to a docu-series, whether it be
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the Hulk Hogan docu-series, the Andre the Giant movie, the
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: one on Vince McMahon. Do you have a personal favorite?
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: And being on the inside of it the way you are,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Do you also find yourself watching and nitpicking a lot
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: of these documentaries you watch?
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Oh, for sure. Yeah, there's lots of stuff that's glossed
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: over and I wish they could spend more time on it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: I understand the complexities of politics and business and run
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: times and all of that stuff. But yeah, I do
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: find myself being a bit of an armchair quarterback saying, oh,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: I wish they would have covered more of this or
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: covered more of that. But I thought the one they
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: just recently did on Hulk Hogan this year on Netflix
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: was phenomenal. I thought they hit an absolute home run
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: with that. I do think there are some really interesting
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: stories that need to be told out there. Maybe chief
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: amongst them is, is Jeff Jarrett. I've called Jeff Jarrett,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: like the Forrest Gump of wrestling. I think so many
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: people don't really understand the history. Like the, the iconic
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: video that, that shot sort of head to toe that
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: makes Hulk Hogan feel like Hulk Hogan, where they're saying
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: they call him the Hulk. You know, he stands six
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: foot seven. His arms are 40. You know what? Blah, blah, blah.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: That was all shot in Jeff Jarrett's basement when he
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: was a kid. And so his stepmom is in the
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: corner holding up a lamp without the shade over to
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: the side. And like they're creating Hulk Hogan in his basement.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, before Jeff's dad lived there,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: like Johnny Cash lived there. Like this is like, what?
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: How is this real? And so many other guys, you know,
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: whether it's Sting or the Ultimate Warrior or the Undertaker
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: or Stone Cold or Mankind or The Rock, like they
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: all came through and were hanging out at Jeff's house
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: when he was a kid, like, This is a surreal
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: human being who's had an unbelievable story. And then you
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: think about the personal triumph and tragedy of his life.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I just feel like it lends itself to a multi-part series.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: I don't think a movie could really do his story justice.
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: It would need to be like a 10-parter.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: A 10-part docuseries, or he's even the type of guy
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: that would be great for a scripted, find somebody to
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: play him as an actor and turn it into a
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Hollywood movie about his life. First off, Jeff, great dude.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: Love chatting with him any chance I get. Hudson, we
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: were driving to Oxford, Mississippi for Ole Miss and LSU
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: and passed the Mid-South Coliseum. And it's the first time
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I'd ever seen it on our drive through Memphis into Oxford.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: And I immediately thought of Jeff Jarrett and the Jarrett
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: family and all the history in that building also. So definitely,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: if you're the Indiana Jones of wrestling, Conrad, then Jeff Jarrett,
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I like that description as the Forrest Gump of that industry.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: There's all these crazy moments. Like, who would think even
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: when he starts a company and he gets a financial backer,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: it winds up being HealthSouth and Richard Scruci? Like, this
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: stuff you just can't make up. I mean, how does
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: this keep happening to Jeff Jarrett? He's the most interesting
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: man in the history of wrestling. And what NBC tried
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: a few years ago with The Rock, Young Rock, hey,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: we need one about Young Jeff. Let's do it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Conrad Thompson with us. The Attitude Era, the Monday Night Wars,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: the Territory Days, those are iconic. Iconic. Do you think
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: WWE fans will have the same interest in behind-the-scenes stories
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and the love of first-hand drama 20 or 30 years
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: from now about this era? Will we care about reliving
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: stories on podcasts or as Netflix and WWE Unreal? Have
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: they claimed that audience?
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: No, I think it'll always be there. You know, we're
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: always going to see things through a WWE lens whenever
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: they produce it. We always want to know, as Jeff
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: would call it, the story behind the story. And I
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: think so much of our interest is just based on
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: our age. I have a theory that we all have
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: a 10-year window when we were at our peak for
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: music or sports. I can rattle off names of former
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Braves or former Dallas Cowboys or the 92 Alabama championship team.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: But younger fans, they would have no idea about that.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: But boy, they know everybody on the 09 team or
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: what have you. So I think it's just sort of
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: relative to your childhood, whatever sort of emotional attachment you had.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: So while I don't have any sort of emotional attachment
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: to John Cena or Roman Reigns, a lot of folks
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: younger than me, that's their Hulk Hogan. That's their Stone Cold.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: So I think it'll exist probably just not for you
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: and I.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there'll be as many iconic stories
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: because they're not doing anything illegal. Yeah.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: Well, there's fewer towns now, you know, back in the day,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: they were driving 300 miles a day, every single day
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: between towns. And now it's kind of once a week
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: and it's a TV show and, Yeah, it is better
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: for the guys. I don't know the stories.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: So what's something, emotional attachment or whatever, that you have
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: currently in your collection that you will never sell?
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: The big gold belt. I mean, it is my... My
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: second most valuable collectible behind my wife. You know, they
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: used to call me a Ric Flair super fan because
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: I bought robes and belts. Well, I got the first
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Ric Flair drip and now she's Mrs. Thompson. So it
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: worked out. But the big gold belt that they used
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: from 1986 to 2000, that's the holy grail of wrestling
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: collectibles in my opinion.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Hey, did WWE approach you about trying to purchase your
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: podcast network at any time?
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: No. Now, we did have conversations. They tried to get
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: me to run their podcast network, but those conversations happened
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: right before Vince got sent home.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: So when Vince got sent home, there was a big
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: pause and all that. Nick Kahn did what Nick Kahn does.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: He went and negotiated a huge deal with Fanatics, and
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: I'm sure they're crushing it, and I'm happy for their success.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: How many podcasts are you hosting right now?
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: Just the five, Monday through Friday.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Do you have a preparation staff? How do you keep
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: up with all this?
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely. We've got folks who help us with social media,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: folks who help us with YouTube clips, folks who help
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: us with research. I've got a guy who helps me
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: produce StreamYard, and he kind of speaks Conrad is the
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: way I say it. We've done it so long, he
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: knows where I'm headed just based on the tone of
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: my voice because we're just in a cadence together. But
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: it's the same crew.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the key would be whoever you're hosting with
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: on these shows. I mean, they're great on the air
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: with you, they have to be willing to tell all,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: so to speak. Be behind the scenes and actually give details,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: name some names, and be real. That's the key that
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: comes across with what you're doing. Otherwise, if you just said, oh,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: this one guy, it wouldn't be as cool.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: No, I totally agree. But I also understand it's gotten
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: more complicated because when I first started doing this, none
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: of my guys worked in wrestling. And now, knock on wood,
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: they're all making more money than ever and better positions
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: than ever. So politically, they're going to be very guarded
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: about Well, I can't really be critical of this or
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: that or whatever. So I try to avoid those topics
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: just so it doesn't come off as lame.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Are you a fan of the product right now?
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Which product?
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Of wrestling, pro wrestling.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I like AEW pay-per-views. I don't really enjoy any weekly
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: television show. I record them all. I watch them in
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: fast forward. If it's a two-hour show, I'm going to
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: catch it up. When there's 30 minutes left, I'm going
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: to fast forward the stuff I didn't like, and I'm
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: going to watch the stuff I am interested in. I
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: don't think it's as compelling week to week anymore as
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: maybe it once was. But I do think if you're
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: a wrestling fan with a limited amount of time, and
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: unfortunately my wife is not a wrestling fan, and I'm
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: working during the day, she's working during the day, so
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: we wind up spending a lot of our time together
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: navigating Netflix and these different apps, and we're going to
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: play with the dogs and watch TV together. She doesn't
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: want to watch wrestling. I get that. So I try
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: to watch those shows and fast forward, but the AEW pay-per-views,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: those are always going to be appointment television for me.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: They're four or five hours of nonstop banger matches. And
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: if that's what you're into, matches and maybe not so
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: many in-ring promos and things like that, I think that's
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: for you. But there's no doubt that it is a
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: totally different ballgame in WWE. I mean, their business is
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: stronger than ever from a revenue standpoint right now.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I could sit and listen to you tell stories and
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: talk about this. Jeff Jarrett's another one. Bruce Prichard, I think,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: is a star every time he's a guest on one
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: of these docu-series or documentaries. Every time I see his
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: face up there, I'm like, okay, we're about to get
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: a good story or we're about to get good perspective
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: on this superstar that everyone knows. Do you find that
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: with him also? And when you open up and ask
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: him a question, you don't know where it's going?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Bruce is one of a kind. I mean, he's
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: really responsible, in my opinion, for the podcast genre exploding
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: the way it did. When we first launched it, you know,
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: I had been doing the Ric Flair show for quite
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: a while and people were sort of making fun. I
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: remember that was a big fan fest. I was at
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: in Charlotte and they're like, why are you doing a
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: podcast with brother love? You went from Ric Flair to
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: brother love. And I'm like, Hey man, respectfully, you have
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: no idea. This is the guy behind the guy. He
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: was there for so many of these iconic moments from
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: 1987 to 2009. I mean, that's, that's a heck of
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: a run and everything in between, whether it's Hulk Hogan
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: or stone cold or John Cena or anyone else. Bruce
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: had a story and his ability to tell a story
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: and do silly impressions and look for the humor and
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: look for the punchlines. I just think he is he's
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: a podcast star. I think him and Jim Cornette are
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: probably in a league of their own.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: And you see, that's the other twist to it. Chad
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: is Conrad will call him out on stuff. You guys
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: go at it from time to time and you don't
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: take it personal. You know, that that's that's also a
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: trick behind the scenes of why it's so good.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate you saying that, but you know, as
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: a guy who's grown up listening to sports talk radio
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: in Alabama, I realized that you've got to do good radio.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: And so, you know, during, during Nick Saban's heyday, what
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: would that have sounded like? I don't think Alabama is
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: going to lose a game. And the co-host says, I agree.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: We'll be back after these words. Like you can't do that.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: That's like legend calling it a five off.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Yes. There you go. So we got it. We got
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: to create something. So every now and again, I, uh,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: I want to dig my heels in and argue a
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: little bit. It's fun.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: It's amazing the sense of humor of people around that,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: that industry too. I was listening to a podcast with
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien who had one of his head writers on
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: his original Conan O'Brien show left and went to go
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: to work for WWE as one of the writers for that.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: And he's talked on his podcast about how he loves
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: watching wrestling. And as a fan of comedy, he totally
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: understands how people who are comedically gifted are really good
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: at going in and, writing the storylines and the punchlines,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: as you mentioned, and everything else. I'm sure you found
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: that with Bruce, but I thought that was an interesting
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: intersection of the two with Conan O'Brien having a head
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: writer that eventually went on to write for WWE.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. I mean, they're recruiting a lot of their
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: writers straight out of Hollywood. You know, they're either former
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: wrestlers who've kind of grown up in the business and
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: now their in-ring days are behind them, or they're right
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: from Hollywood. And so, It's interesting to see how that
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: evolution has changed because that was not the case way
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: back when. It was just Vince, Bruce, and Pat.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And they would do that in Connecticut, right? Yeah.
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: I was sitting around Vince's pool just coming up with ideas.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: They would start with next year's WrestleMania and work backwards.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: And I don't think it happens like that anymore anywhere.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: They're not wearing suits then, right?
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine. I can't imagine.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Hey, give the website out again for the intercontinental title
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: that you have for auction. It will end on Saturday.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it sure will. This Saturday, WrestlemaniaBelt.com. You can see
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: all about it. It was in use every single week
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: on TV from 1985 until early 1988. So we're talking
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Tito Santana, the Macho Man Randy Savage. Ricky, the dragon steamboat,
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: and maybe the greatest WrestleMania match of all time. Certainly
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: the 1987 match of the year. And then the honky
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: tonk man, the greatest intercontinental champion of all time. And
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: that belt can be yours this Saturday at WrestleMania belt.com.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: We'll set a record. So I hope so, man.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Knock on wood.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Is there, is there a safe guy that has purchased
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: your stuff at the past?
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there is a collector network. And before the hysteria
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: around this WrestleMania one set of boots that sold earlier
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: this year for a million bucks, there was really a
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: handful of collectors and we all kind of knew each other.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: There's a guy in Florida, a guy in Louisiana, a
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: guy in the Northeast. And so whatever, any of us
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: wanted to sell something to, to buy something else, we
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: would say, Hey, what are you thinking about this? I'm
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: looking to buy that. Or we would do a trade.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: But now with Heritage Auctions, I think we've blown the
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: doors off of that. People are going to go auction
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: first now.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man. Thank you again for the time, and good
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: luck setting this record. And again, thank you for the
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: stories and insight.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: No, thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: very much. Absolutely.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Conrad Thompson there. I remember him going on the wake-up
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: zone for his live endorsements. Also, he mentioned 3HL, but
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: he would do that with Mark and Kevin and Frank
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: for many years. Yeah.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, an advertiser on Clay Travis's show, as he just said, too.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: So I think it's a fascinating comparison between how Clay
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: got into it and what he's doing and how Conrad
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: got into it. Conrad is unique and special and very
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: talented in what he does and his knowledge base and everything.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: But it goes to show there's a lot of people
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: out there who know a lot about something. you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: and when you can package that in a smooth delivery
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: and you're a really good communicator and you have the
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: right connections, you, you can be Conrad Thompson, who's a
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: very successful podcaster and a very successful businessman with his
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: mortgage company.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's a really cool American, you know, success
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: story with him. And, uh, I don't watch wrestling currently.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: He talked about you kind of go back to your childhood.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: I watched wrestling when I was in high school. I
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: watched The Rock and I watched Stone Cold and The
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Undertaker and Mankind. Attitude era was my era. Lorne Michaels
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: said about SNL, oh, what was your favorite cast? That's
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: how I know when you went to high school or
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: when you were in middle school and you started watching
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: the show. Everyone's going to go back to that era
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: of memory that he's talking about over a five to
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: ten year period. That's where I go back to wrestling. But, Hutton,
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: I can't get enough of the stories. I can sit
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: and listen to him and Jeff Jarrett. I can sit
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: and watch any docu-series about any pro wrestler, even when
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: As much about them.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: The Hulk Hogan documentary, the Vince McMahon documentary, Andre the
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Giant I mentioned.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: A & E, I.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Think, did a series of sort of untold wrestling documentaries.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I watched all those. I love it. The Von Erich
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: movie about the Von Erichs.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: That's another one. What's that get from? The movie The Wrestler. Yeah.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: And that's what I like.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: The Jeff Jarrett story could be the Von Erich story
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: with Zac Efron. You know, that's that's it's a story
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: that could be told over the course of a Hollywood movie.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Do you like what I said? It was like nowadays
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: they're not doing anything illegal with all the stories now. Yeah.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure there's still something that goes on
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: illegal that we don't know about. But yeah, it's not
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: it's not nearly what it was.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: It's incredible. Check out the network of shows that Conrad has.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: A fantastic series that he's got going on there. Coming up,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the college football playoff committee. We throw this out there
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: a lot. What's the committee looking for? We just throw
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: it out as a group. Let's get specific. Who's on
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: the committee? Where are they from? And what's the criteria
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: this year for what they're looking for as we get
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: ready to go through the final stretch of the regular
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: season of college football and the push to compete for
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a national title on the final year of a 12-team playoff?
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: That's next year on Hutton & Withrow. Presented by Hard
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• 42:03
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• 42:06
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• 42:10
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• 42:13
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• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Chad, there was a point in time where if you
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: looked at the college football playoff committee, we did this
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: on our show a couple years ago. There was like a–
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: there is a media member still, but there was like
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: a professor from like a Division I, but like a
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: conference USA school, like a professor or it was a
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: manager or something. And we're like, what? What is going
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: on here? That's how they went around college athletics and
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: did this. So who's on the committee now? And there's
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: a term that you serve. One of them is Chris Massaro,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: the athletic director at Middle Tennessee State University, which is
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: right down the road from where we broadcast from here
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: in Nashville, our home base for sport and state. But
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: in looking around, I like the fact that they have
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: some former players. They have a nice mix of ADs
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: and head coaches. I just think there should be more
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: coaches and players on the committee than ADs. Just a
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: day-to-day regimen of the job itself. I don't think the
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: ADs are watching as much football or involved in the
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: football aspect because, I mean, they're in charge of every
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: athletic program, not just one. I'm not saying they shouldn't
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: be on the committee. I don't think there should be
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: as many.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hunter Urachek, Arkansas AD, who's under fire from his
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: own fan base being on there is interesting. But, yeah,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: I like the Mike Reillys, the Gus Malzahn, Mark D'Antonio,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Randall McDaniel, the former football guys, right? Like the coaches,
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: former players. I like putting those guys on there. And
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I think it is important. Being an athletic director and
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: having that spot, I think, is a good one to
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: be in. You know, it's like a lot of times
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: former governors make good presidents because they've had to lead
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: a state and govern a state with their previous job.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: I think being an athletic director and being in administration
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: is And having that perspective also is not a bad thing. Also,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: just look at that and think, boy, we're entrusting these
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: people with a lot.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, ask Notre Dame a year ago, feeling like
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: they were snubbed, right? Like we are really asking a
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: lot out of a small group of people to come
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: up with the right 12 teams every year based on
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: the protocols in front of them. And I would also say,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: you know, they're going to take the heat for whatever
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: decision they make. But there's a lot of people who
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: could just watch college football every weekend and then look
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: at the rules for the selection and tell you what
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: they think about who should be in the 12-team playoff, right?
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: And they could do it without bias. So what makes
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: them special or uniquely qualified to do it? I don't
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: know that they are, but I think it's always just
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: about getting the right.
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: Mix of people involved.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: You can't lean too heavy with one conference or with
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: one job. You can't lean too heavily. With former players
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: or former coaches, there's got to be a decent mix
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: of everyone involved.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: And what's the criteria? Well, here we try to lay
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: it out for you with the mission and how the
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: vote works and the seeding and buys. The seeding and
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: how the vote works, they're actually pairing teams together in bunches.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: They seed teams through one through four, then they'll go
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: five through seven, and they seed them together like that
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: instead of having a vote where you just list your
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: top 25, they're actually trying to discuss who should be
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: in what pod. And that's why it gets blurry to
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: us fans because we're discussing should a team be in
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: with a 12. They're really discussing whether or not a
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: team should be in a tier. And that's part of
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the protocol here with what they're asked to do versus
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: how we come up with our own rankings. They don't
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: rank up the top 25. They do, but they don't
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: do it all at once. They're not comparing any of
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: the teams behind or in front of their pod. And
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: that's what's fascinating to me is how they go about
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: choosing between five to six teams instead of the top
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: 25 and discussing everything at once.
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: They're not really doing that. Yeah, we don't care about
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: your rankings. Here are our rankings. We have a ranking
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: system and we have a pod system. And just because
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: the AP says this or there's another vote that says that.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: We don't care. We're going to rank them accordingly. And
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: by the way, that's how it should work.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, we bemoan preseason rankings all the time because
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: it sets teams up for success or failure oftentimes based
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: on where you're ranked in the preseason to start the
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: process without knowing.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Anything about these teams.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Texas A & M was a preseason top 10 team,
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: and we've seen plenty of them that have fallen out
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: of the top 25. Oregon was a team picked to
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: possibly win a national title. And they're out of the
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: top 25 right now. So what do we really know
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: before a season?
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: Well, we don't know much and maybe do away with
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: those polls.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: But that kind of goes with the maybe everyone doesn't
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: know what others know. And it doesn't matter what you
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: think you know, because we are the ones in charge
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: of slotting this based on the rules in front of
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: us for this playoff ranking. And it could be completely
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: different from what the Associated Press and writers across America say.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: And we will have. The rankings show that it gets
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: going towards the back end of the season. The first
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: one is on November 3rd. So there's this weekend and
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: next weekend. And then you have the rankings starting to
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: be released every week. It's every Tuesday leading up to
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: the college football playoff announcement. So, Chad, November 24th. Sorry, Tuesday,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: December 1st. That's the ranking that is before the final one.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: That's where we really see about the three-loss teams, right? Yeah.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Where they'll be seated. And if a two-loss team loses
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: in the final week, where they would be based on
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: the final ranking. Post-Thanksgiving weekend. Yes.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: End of regular season. Pre-final swan song for conference championship
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: game weekend. That will be no more moving forward because
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: we're going to go into the playoff that week now.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: That's going to be a fascinating one to see.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Also, and we're going to talk more tomorrow, I know,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: about the 2014 playoff and what all that could mean.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: That next weekend being Heisman and I think Navy, or
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: maybe flip-flopping the two, where that's also going to coincide
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: with playoff games. That's going to be interesting to see
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: how they navigate all that. But yes, I'm totally with you.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: That Tuesday after Thanksgiving weekend is going to tell us
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: pretty much all.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: We need to know. Yep, the 30-minute show. And then
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: the selection day is Sunday, December 6th, for those that
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: want to File that away. Sunday, December 6th at noon.
• 49:11
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  Speaker 1: your Friday Night Lock. Give me Kentucky, minus 11.5. Vanderbilt's
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: offense is going to struggle to establish any kind of
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: consistent ground game in this game, which means they're going
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: to be forced to pass, predictable passing downs, and they're
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: on the road. Vanderbilt's defense, they've shown cracks when facing
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: the stretch with the passing games. horizontally as well, not
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: just vertically. Wildcats return home after the win, and they
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: are going to get the win for us. Not for
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: the Bluegrass State, for us. Take Kentucky minus 11.5.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: You don't go into Kroger Field and push the Wildcats around.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: That's what we're going to find out on Saturday night.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Jacob Lutz knows that all too well. I am going
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: to go with the surprising rematch of the ACC championship game.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's right.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: It was Duke over Virginia for last year's ACC championship.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: How quickly we forget. Duke has lost two straight games.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: They just lost to their rival in UNC and Bill Belichick.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: But Bo Pribula in Virginia. Pribula started off great. He
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: was at 80% completion percentage for the first four games
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: of the season. He's dipped off a little bit. No
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: better time than Friday night to have that tick up.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Now for the Virginia Cavaliers, minus two and a half.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: I've done very well on Friday night. I've done very
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: well taking the home team. A week ago it was
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Tulane at home winning outright over Memphis. I think the
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: one game I lost was Virginia Tech as a slight
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: home favorite when they lost on that field goal make
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: or miss.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: We're still not sure.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: With Pittsburgh at home in Blacksburg, I believe it was
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: my one Friday night loss of the year. But I'm
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: not going to lose this one. Virginia, Cavs, minus two
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: and a half against Duke. Friday night football, Hutton. Let's
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: ride this hot streak. It was a heat check last week.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: Didn't do a lot of research going into that one.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: It paid off.
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: I've done more research into this game. I love it
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: the same. Virginia minus two and a half.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: This is more than just a nice run. This is unprecedented.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: This is just Papa Giorgio. Right.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: I should be a weekly guest on On Tilt or
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: with Todd Furman at this point. The fact that they
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: haven't asked me on, I'm quite offended by because I
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: am killing it on Friday night college football at this point.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I knew this ahead of time, but Virginia minus two
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: and a half already took it. Already took it at
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• 52:47
  Speaker 1: We're on the show for Dixieland Delight Friday night. You're
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: watching Tulane. It was over pretty much going into half.
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: They scored. They did the lead. They kept scoring. There
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: was no sweat. No sweat with this.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: No. We were sitting there. We're enjoying a late-night dinner
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: at a nice restaurant, J.C. Holdway in Knoxville. And I
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: just look up and I just casually flash at them.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, they're up like three scores late in
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: the game. It's the easiest cover ever. That's how I
• 53:15
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• 53:19
  Speaker 2: sweating at all. Virginia's going to cover this thing easily
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: on Friday night.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: Run this back on Monday. Enjoy Thursday night football as well.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Two and a half for Chicago at home tonight against
• 53:31
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