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Rams vs Falcons NFL DFS Showdown | Week 17 MNF | Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: The system's going clear the left. What's up everyone? Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Tambaline here aka TOTEG and Tambo back for another edition
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  Speaker 1: get a ton more shows coming your way. And we
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  Speaker 1: were just talking pre show. Got the boys title hoop
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  Speaker 1: here with me as usual, but we're just talking pre show.
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  Speaker 1: The news came out last night if you didn't see it,
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  Speaker 1: But there will be a two gamer on Saturday, So
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  Speaker 1: there's a two games slate coming up that'll have a
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  Speaker 1: nice showdown slate, I'm sure for Saturday night as well.
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  Speaker 1: We've got the Sunday main slate, which is beautiful because
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  Speaker 1: it's split pretty much equally, so if you like AM only,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to play PM only, both all three
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  Speaker 1: with the main slate, whatever you want to do. And
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  Speaker 1: then of course the crazy game to end the season
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  Speaker 1: that I'm super excited for, but the AFC North Battle
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  Speaker 1: as the Ravens go into Pittsburgh now with a real
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  Speaker 1: shot shout out to Cleveland yesterday getting the job done
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  Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers being scared to take that sack and
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  Speaker 1: preventing his team from winning. So that was incredible, really
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  Speaker 1: good stuff over there, hoopster, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: My man?
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  Speaker 1: Week seventeen, final game of the slate? We got Rams
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  Speaker 1: at the Falcons, gonna break it all down, of course,
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  Speaker 1: but how you doing, my friend?
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  Speaker 2: Do them?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yesterday addressing me? I guess the one thing it
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  Speaker 2: only leaves us with, I don't know, three maybe meaningful games,
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  Speaker 2: and they took two of them and put them on Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: which creates another, you know, small two games. Slayways talked
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  Speaker 2: about it. You know, get towards down to the season,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, you see a lot a lot more
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  Speaker 2: of these split slates. So they took two of the
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  Speaker 2: two most important games. Oh there's three important games, and
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  Speaker 2: they took two, put them on Saturday and then Sunday
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  Speaker 2: night obviously for the Steelers and Ravens, and nothing else
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  Speaker 2: really matters in terms of games from here and out.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, that's one thing to definitely take note of.
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  Speaker 2: Even tonight really doesn't matter all that much. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the Rams are pretty much locked into the five seed.
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  Speaker 2: I think I saw something's like seventy percent chance they're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be the five seed, so not a ton to
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  Speaker 2: play for, but I mean I think they still, you know,
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  Speaker 2: give it a go here, obviously with Stafford going for
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  Speaker 2: like the MVP and and that sort of thing. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it should be fun. I mean in terms of, like
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  Speaker 2: here on out, freaking wide open. Man like it. To me,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's absolutely wild, wide open. And if I was
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  Speaker 2: gonna take like money and put it on one team,
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea who the hell it would be
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  Speaker 2: to win this whole thing. And that's gonna make it
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  Speaker 2: fun really from from here and out all the way
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  Speaker 2: through the Super Bowl. So I am looking forward to,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the next month month and a half here
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  Speaker 2: of of football. It's gonna be a lot of fun, uh,
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  Speaker 2: kind of seeing who who rises at the top and
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  Speaker 2: makes a run here, because it's more why open that
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  Speaker 2: I've seen in years. In years, we've had these dominant
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  Speaker 2: teams like the Chiefs and before that it was the
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  Speaker 2: Patriots and kind of always knew they were going to
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  Speaker 2: be in the mix. I'm just not seeing that this year.
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  Speaker 2: So looking forward to the final stretch here, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: looking forward to talk through this game with you guys here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Playoff's gonna be a lot of fun,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, because we have the unknowns this year.
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  Speaker 1: That's what makes it so exciting. Like I was looking
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  Speaker 1: at the last night, these odds are just brutal as usual,
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  Speaker 1: almost like touchdown odds. But the Ravens are like twenty
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  Speaker 1: to one to win the super Bowl and they still
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  Speaker 1: have to win a damn game to even get to it,
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  Speaker 1: have to go into Pittsburgh and win and then get
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  Speaker 1: into the playoffs before they'd even have a shot at all.
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  Speaker 1: But it's just how wide open these things are. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: a lot of challenges over on the the AFC side
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  Speaker 1: of things, but the even the NFC is pretty crazy
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  Speaker 1: this year. Quickly though you said it, not so fast,
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  Speaker 1: my friend. There's a wild Card Weekend Monday game. Actually
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  Speaker 1: it says of right now, January twelfth, the Monday will
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  Speaker 1: be the last game of the wild Card Weekend. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: to see us on another Monday. You'll still see us
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  Speaker 1: on a lot of Fridays and Saturdays and stuff along
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  Speaker 1: the lots of good shows still coming through. But I
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  Speaker 1: put the trials up on board. You don't have to
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  Speaker 1: get it today if you don't want. But of note,
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  Speaker 1: I would want to be.
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  Speaker 4: Involved at ship a nation on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: We crushed during the preseason, and this Sunday is very
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  Speaker 1: much like a preseason you mentioned it hoop, with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of unknowns, a lot of randomness, and with tons
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  Speaker 1: of split slates like if the early only should be
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  Speaker 1: good contest, the afternoon only should be good contest, equal size,
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  Speaker 1: pretty close in games. I think it's like seven and
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  Speaker 1: six for thirteen games total, and then of course getting
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  Speaker 1: ready for the main slate.
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  Speaker 4: So definitely a good time to get involved.
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  Speaker 1: Title. Bring you in man.
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  Speaker 4: Rounding out Week seventeen. How you doing, my friend?
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  Speaker 1: What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Doing well? What a game we got treated to last night?
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  Speaker 3: I mean the offense, both offenses cannot be stopped. San
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  Speaker 3: fran and the Bears excited to see what they got
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  Speaker 3: to offer in the playoffs. Just before that, the Bills game,
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  Speaker 3: I mean McDermott fire is ass right there on the spot.
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  Speaker 3: There's no chance you should go for two in that spot.
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  Speaker 3: They would have been probably seventy seventy five percent favorites
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  Speaker 3: going in if you just kick that field goal seventeen
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  Speaker 3: yards in the second half, and yeah, you decide to
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  Speaker 3: do it on one play makes absolutely no sense to me.
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  Speaker 3: These coaches remain donkeys, So that's gonna be important if
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  Speaker 3: you're picking teams in the super Bowl and the playoffs,
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  Speaker 3: it can come down to one or two decisions based
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  Speaker 3: on the coach. And yeah, sometimes even Ben Johnson. I
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  Speaker 3: love Ben Johnson, but I think his decision not to
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  Speaker 3: take a time out and they hurried up it was
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  Speaker 3: like forty five seconds, fifty five seconds. I think that
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  Speaker 3: costed them a little bit. Allowed just one play for
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  Speaker 3: the game, and I think he could add two or three.
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  Speaker 3: So very little things. They add up though when teams
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  Speaker 3: are very closely matched, like we'll see in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, tonight they have two of the best players
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  Speaker 3: in the NFL, Beijon and Pooka, So this one could
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  Speaker 3: be fun as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, lots of good conversation here as well, talking about
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  Speaker 1: the golf coming up.
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  Speaker 4: Golf's coming up PGA season.
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  Speaker 1: We announced it on Saturday, but I know who I
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  Speaker 1: hit it at a little this morning on Takedown breakdown.
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  Speaker 1: We definitely have some fun stuff, very fun stuff. I'm
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  Speaker 1: super pumped about this upcoming PGA season. A lot of
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  Speaker 1: people asking questions about this is just one piece of it.
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  Speaker 1: We will have the Leverage Lane show back starting on
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  Speaker 1: January fourteenth, which is the week of the Sony Open
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  Speaker 1: as it comes back through. But I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be a good golf season.
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  Speaker 3: Head here, hoop.
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  Speaker 1: We've got We've got a lot of big things that
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna wait till the first week of January to
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  Speaker 1: announce them.
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  Speaker 4: In final We're just rounding a few things.
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  Speaker 1: Up here now.
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  Speaker 4: But any any comments on the golf stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, very excited. I mean, you know, as soon as
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  Speaker 2: we kick into the new year, the prize pools will
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  Speaker 2: be back up and up and big for PGA contests.
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  Speaker 2: You know, our team does a phenomenal job. And it's
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  Speaker 2: not just you know, leading up to the first round.
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  Speaker 2: We go all the way through with the Showdown stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And the Showdown is huge, especially in this industry because
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  Speaker 2: nobody's really doing good content around Showdown. A lot of
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  Speaker 2: the main sites, like a lot of a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the main sites that you go to that you're going
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  Speaker 2: to think about going to for PGA season don't even
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  Speaker 2: adjust their projections and ownership for the Showdown rounds. They
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  Speaker 2: keep the same number on the.
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  Speaker 5: Same guys Round one, two, three, and four, And you know,
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  Speaker 5: the one thing I'll definitely say about PGA, don't just
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  Speaker 5: sign up for the site that you think has, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: the best projections and ownership, like, because first off, they don't.
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  Speaker 2: these sites that pride themselves on having the projections and
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  Speaker 2: you because it's not the case. And that's just one
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  Speaker 2: piece of the pies. Don't sign up and pay five
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  Speaker 2: hundred I saw six hundred dollars and basically you're just
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  Speaker 1: to everybody that's supported. Hopefully it was a lot of
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  Speaker 1: fun for you guys along the way. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: get into this. You guys, we've got you know, Rams
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  Speaker 1: at the Falcons and Hoop, I'm gonna go right to you,
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  Speaker 1: back to you and talk about the grand scheme overview.
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  Speaker 1: This is the stage, right, it looks like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: bigger favorites on the road, big boy team total. The
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  Speaker 1: main thing here for the Rams, for those wondering, is
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  Speaker 1: the one seed's gone now, but the five seeds important, right,
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  Speaker 1: You can avoid the Eagles, you get to play the winner.
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  Speaker 1: We were joking pre show. But the Tampa Bay Carolina situation,
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  Speaker 1: well that's I believe what they get to play as
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  Speaker 1: long as they finish in fifth with the fifth seed,
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  Speaker 1: So Hoop, I'll kick it to you first.
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  Speaker 4: Any thoughts on that and then just this game as
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  Speaker 4: a whole.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like we talked about it. I mean, not
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  Speaker 2: a huge game for seeding or anything for the playoff stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Rams are pretty much set in the
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  Speaker 2: five seed for the for the most part. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there are some different scenarios, but they seem very likely
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  Speaker 2: to be the five seed. And either way they're playing
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  Speaker 2: in this game. I mean, it's a primetime game. Matthew
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  Speaker 2: Stafford's kind of you know, in the MVP conversation. Obviously
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  Speaker 2: he wants to do well. The one thing that definitely
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  Speaker 2: stands out to me is, you know, a few guys
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  Speaker 2: getting all the ownership at captain. It's the ones that
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  Speaker 2: you would expect, Puka Bijon and then I think probably
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  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford to some degree, and then after that, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's a pretty big drop off Drake London, Kyron Williams,
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  Speaker 2: probably some Kyle Pitts because of how well he's performed,
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  Speaker 2: Probably some Kobe Parky just because the price is super
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  Speaker 2: cheap and you get kind of a different build and
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  Speaker 2: you go cheap at captain. So it's gonna be very
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  Speaker 2: consolidated at the captain spot in terms of ownership, and
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  Speaker 2: we do have cheap value plays on the slate. With
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  Speaker 2: DeVante Adams being ruled out, all these rams wide receivers
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  Speaker 2: are you know, twenty eight hundred three below three K essentially,
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  Speaker 2: So we have a lot of below three K plays
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  Speaker 2: that we can look to on this slate, and even
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  Speaker 2: guys like Elgier thirty eight hundred probably too cheap, he
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  Speaker 2: gets goal on work. Blake Korham at forty six hundred
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  Speaker 2: too cheap. I think there's a chance he even gets
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  Speaker 2: more work in this game as they kind of know
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  Speaker 2: they're rolling into the playoffs. So we have some really
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  Speaker 2: really underpriced guys that will make playing Bijon and Puoka
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  Speaker 2: at captain very easy. And that's what I think probably
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  Speaker 2: I'll say fifty percent of the field does combine, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Puka Bijon, Puka being the number one in terms of
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  Speaker 2: ownership up there and Bijon is clearly going to be two.
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  Speaker 2: But when I think it's all said and done, it's
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  Speaker 2: probably going to be a combined fifty percent ownership up there.
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  Speaker 2: And you know Stafford's probably around ten, i'd say, uh,
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  Speaker 2: so you know he's next in line, so if you
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  Speaker 2: want to throw him into that makes it sixty percent
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  Speaker 2: of the field kind of doing the same thing at
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  Speaker 2: the captain position. So that's really the main standout you
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  Speaker 2: can you can you can easily get to these expensive
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  Speaker 2: captains because all the cheap players that are on the slate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll kick at you in a second on
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  Speaker 1: this title. One thing I want to shut out our
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  Speaker 1: man go collect. I know he got into the winner
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  Speaker 1: circle over the weekend, so congrats to you. Love to
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  Speaker 1: see that, he says, Grants came over you rams smashed
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  Speaker 1: tonight and then rest everyone next week.
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  Speaker 2: That is very likely. Yeah, very very likely, very likely.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The main thing will be like though, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like Justin says here, you know any anyone else seen this? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I am right now. I see a lot of four
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  Speaker 1: two s, five ones. It's just the way it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: set up. Title.
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  Speaker 2: They the winner of Winner of San fran Seattle has
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  Speaker 2: the number one speed, so then I have a chance
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  Speaker 2: at the one seed.
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  Speaker 4: They lost it last night with San Francisco winning.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's right.
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  Speaker 1: think that's just another quick note title. Let me ask
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  Speaker 1: you this, how many people do you think tonight, how
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  Speaker 1: do you think it's possible that Puka gets over owned
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  Speaker 1: in the captain from all the season longers and best
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  Speaker 1: ballers and everyone that are just hedging their stuff, like
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  Speaker 1: I'm if I lose to Puka, I'm gonna make sure
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  Speaker 1: I have him in the captain. How much of that
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  Speaker 1: do you think we see tonight as casual money coming
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  Speaker 1: in and those trying to hedge against their other spots.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it'll make up too much in the
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  Speaker 3: flagship for the sense of I think fifty maxers make
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  Speaker 3: up a lot of these prize pools nowadays, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't believe that they'll hedge that way. I think they
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  Speaker 3: just stick with their process and go with it, whereas
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  Speaker 3: the casuals might be thrown in two, three, four, and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: maybe they play it, but which could add up a
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  Speaker 3: little bit, but those lineups might not even be that
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  Speaker 3: good anyway. I just think naturally on this slate we
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  Speaker 3: have so much value that Puka is just gonna get
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  Speaker 3: a ton of ownership just because it's easy to fit him.
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  Speaker 3: He projects amazing, and I mean he's the best receiver
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  Speaker 3: in football. He's just a great play. So I do
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  Speaker 3: think he's probably higher owned than maybe we have projected
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  Speaker 3: and everyone has projected. I'm not sure it really has
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  Speaker 3: to do as much with the hedging situation. Maybe I
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  Speaker 3: could be wrong, but we have so much value, Like
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  Speaker 3: is the story of the slate, I think we have
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: Xavier Smith, Mumfield, Davis, Allen, Ferguson, Aljier Mooney, they're all
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: four k and below Parkinson. Four to four is really cheap,
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: Like it just feels like you pick a bijon a
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: puka if you want either quarterback I mean Stafford, if
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: I picked one, I don't love it though, Drake, London,
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: Kyn and then maybe a quorum pits and then yeah,
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: play met captain and whoever's the highest score is probably
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: the optimal and you just figure out the flex because
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: it's it's hard for me to see these mid range
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: and lower tier captains getting there just because I mean
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: they almost have to outscore the top guys. It feels like,
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: which is how much value and how easy it is
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: to fit?
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's important too, because last night slate,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: as we saw, I mean, you can't really fault anyone.
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: I get the way the slate shook out with Tong's value,
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: but it's kind of the only value. You saw three
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: ninety nine way chops, you saw one ninety nine like
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: there was a big boy chops going on up top,
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: because how could you avoid it?
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: You could literally fit everything.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Tongs got to almost six percent in the Captain yesterday
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: you could fit perfect amount of Puka or sorry of
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: a CMC. Purdy, et cetera, et cetera, and it just
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: all worked out. And then they all scored. All the
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: guys in good spots Loveland and Luther Bird and the
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: third and all of them tonight. This makes for a
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: much better slate in my opinion, just because you don't
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: know if it ends up being Mumpfield, Xavier Smith one
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: of those that like, it could be any of those guys,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: or you might need both Korum n algiear like how
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: these teams operate. It could just be crazy. So I
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: think from a MME type slate, this is a really
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: good and the prizes are still there and all that.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be going hard at this slate. And
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: I'm in a different mood today, so I'll just pull
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: it up. I don't care.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: But we're not gonna shy away from this stuff as much,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: or at least I'm not in twenty twenty six. I'm
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: excited for the year ahead. I have nothing against our competitors.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: They all have their own good stuff and their own
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: way to do stuff. But I love to see this.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, Ken. I know you with the emoji
• 16:22
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• 16:25
  Speaker 1: older guy. We appreciate you man, and you you can
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: have both, like we made ourselves affordable so that you
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: can sign up for both. We do talk about our
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: business on here. It's life. That's how it works. Like
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: we want to grow. We started from the bottom up.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: All three of us right here on this show have
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: been here from day one pretty much titled just behind us,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: and we've grown this thing together. It's been a lot
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: of fun. We're not against these other people. We just
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: happen to be in business against them. We think they're
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: all great people over there. But if you see value
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: with what we offer, we would love to have you.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: We know we have a great community and we're doing
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun things to try and continue to grow.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: We continue to put the work in to try and
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: build it bigger, stronger. We've got a lot of plans
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six and it will kick off with
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: golf beyond all the stuff we've done already. So I
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: appreciate you, Ken. That's awesome, all right, title, I'll stay
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: with you man. You want to start off with captain
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: thoughts then and just sort of break it down from
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: that perspective. I gave you the tea up with Puka
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: and all that, But do you have other sort of
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: spots that you can see or ways you can see
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: a building out?
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of like I hinted at in my grand scheme.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: I just because we have so much value in the
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: flex that'll be on the field that projects solid, I
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: don't see any reason not to play Puka Bijon, and
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I mean they're the too highest on the two clear ones.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I still might get overweight. We're showing twenty seven to seventeen. Yeah, maybe,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I guess I prefer Like if Puka does get a
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: little seam to the thirty range, that means Bijon probably
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: has to stay around seventeen. I'll say Bijon, I guess
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: is my preferred then, just with the ownership discount a
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: little bit. And he's game script independent. If they're getting
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: completely blown out, you'll see All's year and they'll just
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: throw it in. But if they're down fourteen or whatever,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: he can catch plenty of dump offs from Kirk. He's
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: just so good at football. But that being said, it's
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: a seven point spread. I was kind of expecting like
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: an eight and a half nine. I think the Rams
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: are the best team in the league. If you look
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: at futures or the favorite to win the Super Bowl,
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Falcons are dead. It's only seven points. I mean, the
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Falcons are gonna play hard, their defense is solid, so
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: that makes it even a little more intriguing to play
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: the Bijeon the Pukahs. After those two, I think it's
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: just really Drake London Kyen Williams. For me, Kyron f
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: five percent. We talk about it a lot like if
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: he is the one scoring the touchdowns Pukah chalk, he's
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: not scoring them as much. He can still go nine
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: for two hundred or whatever he does. But if he
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: doesn't get the touchdowns, Kyroen hurts a lot of that stuff.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Stafford showing over ten percent that hurts him as well.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: And then Drake London on the other side, if he's
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: getting the touchdowns, it's not Bijon on the ground. So
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: those are my four main ones. If I added anyone else,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I think Blake Koram Kyle Pitts are fine. Korum's the
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: one mid Tierish guy I would go. And yeah, that's
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: just because the split is continue to narrow. Blake corm
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: can he can get two touchdowns. If that's the case,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: could be close to the highest scorer on the late
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it's mainly Puka, Bijeon, Kyron Drake. I'm playing
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: the guys that I think can score twenty plus because
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: when we get to the flex there's so much value.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the other things too is I think
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: that's at least someone interesting and maybe holds them in
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: check hoop with bijon stuff. I know that obviously it's
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: good on you know, Puco will get to all these
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: other spots, but just noting it. Like the the Bijon
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: thing is, I don't think a lot of people know
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: how nowhere to go after that, so it's holding it
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: someone in check, like they put Bijeon, but they like, oh,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: like people never build two fours or rarely due versus
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: what the majority do, especially have handbuildings. So I think
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, well, if I put Bijeon,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: then it gets tricky because I got to put two
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: more or three, Like they start thinking about.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: This like oh no, I need more rams, so they
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: move to the other side.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: What about that? And then sort of some of your
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: other captain thoughts up top, because I do think like
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Bijeon could come in under twenty percent and if you
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: got the stone, you can figure it out from there.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: But I think it's definitely an opportunity to go Bijeon
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: up to and get an overweight stance.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the issue at captain is you just
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: you're gonna probably just need the highest scoring guy up
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: there because of how much value that we have on
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: the slate. Title kind of alluded to it, and I
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: think it's the most important talking point when looking at
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: the captains. And we have a lot of guys on
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: the slate, not a lot. There's a group of guys
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that can just absolutely go off that we've seen all
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: season long, just go off. And for me, I don't
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: care what the ownership is on Puka, like I'll just
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I'll get to find a way to get overweight on Puoka.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I mean it's not like you can scheme to stop them,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: like they'll get him the ball in a variety of
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: different ways, almost like unguardable. And are the Falcons going
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: to be highly incentivized to really slow them down like
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: they're not playing for anything. So it starts with Puoka.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: For me, I don't care what the ownership is. Like
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: we're showing it's probably we're showing twenty seven. Saber has
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: it at twenty two. It's probably like, I don't know,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: thirty two or something. It's probably over thirty. I don't
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: really care. Like he'll definitely be my highest own captain
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and then Bijon, you know, definitely find so many different
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: ways for Bijon to get there. I mean he had
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: to think eleven targets was it last week? I mean
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: it's a crazy number, eleven targets and back to back week,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: so it doesn't matter even if they're getting their ass kicked.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I think he still, you know, has a chance to
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: be the highest scoring guy on the slate. But for me, honestly,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: it does get difficult after that. Even with like Drake London,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I get it, but man like still got Kirk Cousins
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: back there, and I know he was able to get
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: it done with Pitts last week or two weeks ago,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: whatever it was. Now it's like I got both those
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: guys there, So I do struggle with that side. You know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: maybe and maybe they do the rams say, you know what,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: get a little lead and then we don't want to,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: you know, injure anyone else going into the playoffs and
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: they do turn it over to Kyrin or Korum. So
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: for me, it's Hookah, it is Bijon, it is probably
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Kiren Kyen Korum I think is fine, and then you know,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: maybe Matthew Stafford. But the problem I have with Stafford
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: just feel like if Stafford has a big game, it's
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: just all going through Puka today. Like I just can't
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: imagine a path where Stafford goes off and Puka doesn't
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: outscore him. So I do struggle with Matthew Stafford. He
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: would probably be like the fifth or sixth favorite for me,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: but it's clearly Puka, Bijon, the Rams running backs. You know.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe then I'd probably put like the Falcons pass catchers,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: and Stafford in that next tier like tier three. I'd say, Yeah.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: The tricky part is there's again anything can happen. It's football,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: but there's like almost no stopping Puka. That's the challenge.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: It's like everyone's gonna try and do whatever. Like here's
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: an example of this game. The Falcons have nothing, but
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: the problem is their division is worth nothing. It's what
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: we just made fun of off the top. It's Stampa
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Bay in Caroliza. What's their super Bowl? Is this game
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: right here? Shut down the Rams and make them play
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: somebody else. Will it happen? Probably not, But that's what
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: they're playing for right now, is to play spoiler because
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: they're pissed off their A game or whatever out of
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the fact that they could have been in their division game.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Because six and nine, it's not a horrible record for
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the Falcons, just horrible overall, but it's for them. They
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: were right there close to those other teams. So I
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna try their best. I don't know if
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: it's gonna fully work, And that's the challenge of a
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: guy like Puka just gets open so easily. He's so
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: dominant with the ball, it's too hard to guard him.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: So I'm with Hoop and Title on that one. Bijon.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I like the fact that it's different styles of builds.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: You can get some two fours, you can get some
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: five to one Atlanta's. If you want to get aggressive
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: on this slate and play spoiler alert to someone, I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: think it is my man. Timothy Doublin said, might not
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: be the best night for a single entry. Yeah, The
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: thing is I would not want to be a single
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: entry on this slate. But if you're playing single entry
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: tonight or you only have one lineup, I think you
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: just simply go with the game script you feel best
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: with and then attack that and then start comparing what
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: versions of this game script are my favorite. If you
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: have the Falcons upsetting them and you think it's gonna
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: be something crazy like that, and you know the Rams lose,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: then you could build what does my best Falcons win?
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: Lineup looks like, how do they win? Who's involved in that?
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: At least? Then you just go down with the ship.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: If it doesn't go your way, you didn't lose, but
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: you play your money on what you think is gonna
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: happen in the game and build accordingly because you only
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: have one. Going back to the captains, I will say this,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I just looked it up. Stafford is still minus two
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: fifty for the MVP. But man, one performance by Drake
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: May yesterday that was pretty impressive stuff. I'm sticking with that.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: The one thing about Stafford is the builds are pretty easy.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you get them right, I'm saying, but to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Hoops point always it's like, when are you involving guys
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: like Mumpfield, Xavier Smith, Ferguson, Parkinson, will easy let me
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: put Stafford up top. So if they're gonna do anything
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: like that, One he's capable. Two, there's at least enough
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: guys that can catch passes. And I don't know, it
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: feels like a run right now title that we've been on,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: but we've had Travis etn Jr. With Trevor Lawrence go
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: off together for three touchdowns. The week after that was
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Burrow with Chase Brown and then last yesterday with May
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and Romandre Stevenson. What if you see a Stafford with
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: one of those rbs, get kyrin or you get koram
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: in there something like that, and then you could still
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: put Pooka because you have values like Mumpfield and they're
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: all separator values. Obviously, if you put the most obvious
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: version ever of Stafford Williams, Pooka, Ferguson, or So, you're
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: gonna be much more popular. But there's other ways around it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I think, So I at least have some love for
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Stafford up top. And then the last thing I'll say,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: because I'm not gonna get to a bunch of these
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: cheapies it doesn't look like going to rant on that
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: in a second, but two seconds here the running backs
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: for sure, Kyron and or Kyen and Koram really in
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: miamim pool because that's what leverages it all right. If
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: you don't have Stafford, if you don't have Nikua, if
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you got them getting there in a different way. We
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: just saw Jamar Chase have an amazing start yesterday and
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: then Chase Brown takes him out for thirty four points
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: to twenty something.
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: It's like even with two touchdowns for Chase.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: To start, that could be Puka and then all of
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: a sudden one of Williams or Korum or both start
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: doing it and you need him in the flex instead
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: of the captain. So like those running backs as well,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: and title off flip it to you on my thing.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: I won't do a full tangent, just the notes on that. Like,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that's why a six percent tongs captain doesn't really work
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: great very often because you just you fit all the
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: stuff right. So if you put these cheap captains up
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: top and you get it right, what do you think
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: you have in that lineup? Typically you've got all the
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: best plays that fit in like everybody else, and you
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: just end up in builds of like fifty plus doups.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: So I'm not sure, Like I know, you handle that
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: stuff differently than some others. Everyone handles that stuff differently,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: and I think some still want to protect their portfolio
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and like put the good lineup of it in and say,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: well that is the nuts, Like if it hits at
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: least I still get three grand because of it, or
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: four grand, maybe more, Who knows, what do you think?
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really, I don't play that way personally,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Like I had, I was way overweight Tongs captain in
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: the sense, well not way because he came in higher
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: than I expected. But even in those lineups like I
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: was looking like I played Santos over Lovelin. They're just
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: just because you play what to be a lower owned
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: captain that you think or a lower price captain. We
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: talk about it all the time. It leads people to
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: the same builds and what there's seventy thousand people in
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: that twenty five dollars contest tonight, Like it's not enough
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: to just play something like that. Now, Alec Pierce last Monday,
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: when he's point oh seven percent up top, that's a
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: different ballgame than six percent. Then you can eat a
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: lot more chalk after that. So yeah, for the most part,
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: even like the Coorum the Al's year, don't just leave
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: one hundred or two hundred bucks. Just know what you're
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: getting into. I should say, I'm not if that's what
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: you want to do, sure, but if you want to
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: eliminate a lot of dupes and still get unique, you
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: do need to get more different than just a five
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: percent captain and then leave all your money. I definitely
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: don't like it on this slate, just because we have
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: so much value.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I like the statement though this is true, he said,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: But Saber, you know obviously however your settings were or
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: whatever settings you were on all that like, but this
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: is just an example of what you said and go
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: collec following up. So I'd rather lose with that than
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: get a two hundred due point of that. That's what again,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: teach their own. Some people are thrilled just get in
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: the w and three grand is a lot for if
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: they only put in one entry for twenty bucks, three
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: grands phenomenal. And I'm not hating on that. I'm just saying,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: like for most you know, people that are playing max
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: entry all the time and all season long, and it
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: gets expensive. The idea of winning that is just not
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: going to do anything. So it's like way more likely
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to take the risk on of playing for the maximum
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: amount versus playing for that amount. But there's nothing wrong
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: if that's your style of play, and again depends on
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of different factors.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: So love that call out there from.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: You, Hoop. I'll go back to you man. Anything else
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: you want to add now that we both talk, all
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: three of us have talked through it. If not, you
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: can go further in on quarterback or go straight to
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the running backs, with those backups being a big talking
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: point on this slate, I.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Think yeah, I mean nothing really to add that quarterback
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: like definitely as much Stafford as I can get. I mean,
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: it seems very likely to be on the optimal team
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: and for me, most likely in the Flexboch Kirk Cousins
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: another one of these quarterbacks that probably comes in pretty low.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you lose Hoop as well? Yeah, he
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: did say the issues yeah beforehand, So if we lose,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: who apologies, But I'll let you take it from their
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: title if you want. He can hop back in if
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: he gets in, but go to go to the running backs,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: and yeah, big focus is gonna be on Quorum and
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Algier of course on this slate.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I will say for the quarterbacks, I could
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: see myself being underway. Cousins just doesn't push the ball
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: down on the field as much. So like if he
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: throws for a lot less yards, but the a dot's
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: really small, like six catches for fifty yards. You'd rather
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: have the pass catcher, whether that's Mooney, whether that's pits London.
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: You can leave money that way. And with Stafford, so
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: much of it goes through Pookah, like we've talked about,
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: if he doesn't get in the touchdowns through the air.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: So I do think no quarterback buils are interesting today
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: as a way to get different if you are doing
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: like five to one rams stuff, which everyone's going to
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: be doing. So doesn't mean I won't play some five
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: to one rams, but when I do, that is a
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: way you can get different running backs.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: The nice thing on this late is you have two
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: running backs on both sides that are very viable, which
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: spreads out ownership in the playerpool a bit. Bijon. I
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: think I prefer at captain more than I do the
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: flex just hoping he fully gets there and the game
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: stays competitive, or if you think the Rams blow him out.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: I don't think Bijon's the best play because it fits
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter and they're down twenty one twenty eight.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: We've seen it. It'll be algaeer and he just won't
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: be in the game. So if you think it's competitive,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: I think Bijon is really good play because I think
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: he'd be a big reason why it is competitive. Kyron Korham,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: I think both are very good for their price. I
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: mean they both work in a good amount. Kiren did
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: separate I guess a little bit from Korum for the
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: snap count last week, but it seems pretty game script
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: dependent to just how the game's going. Like the week
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: prior is almost close to fifty to fifty, the last
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: week is seventy thirty. Regardless, though, I think both are
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: solid and yeah, ownership will show what twenty two in
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: the Flex twenty nine Kyron, I think I can get
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: overweight to both and feel pretty good about it. Without DeVante,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: we talked about it on the last Showdown show, but
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: there's just more touchdown equity for both of them because
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: they're not doing the one two yard DeVante slant or
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: fade route there and then all year if all year
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: scores once or even twice, like talk about leverage off
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: of the chalkiest guy in Bijon. So yeah, thirty eight hundred,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: we see random stuff happen with him all the time.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: I think the running back room is very strong on
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: this late and I'll be playing all four definitely.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all good do Who've just texted us he's resetting
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: the router, but we got it. Who can come back?
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: They'd be amazing. If not, we'll keep it running for
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: you guys. I love the breakdown. One thing I like
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: just circling back to quarterback you match. I actually was
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: toying this just before the show, so it's funny you
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: mentioned it is there is some nice builds you can
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: get out there with, like no Stafford in the build.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Not again, I like Stafford, but I also like him
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: up top. He's kind of negative leverage in both spots
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: if you look at the stone, which I'll use the segment,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: but I was just noting that, so guy lineups with
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: no cousins or no Stafford and still using somebody else
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: up top could still get there. The way it gets
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: spread around and depending on what the score of the
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: game ends up like, So just keep that in mind.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: But the funny, you know, the Stone, That's why I
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: love it so much.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: If you look at both Kiren and Bijon, you see
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: their captain and their captain optimal information and you see
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: their flex optimal information. And I'm not gonna give it away.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: That's what we got over triper Nation. But why it's
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: the best tool in DFS just to be able to
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: see it. It can help you make some of those decisions,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: which again you should be taking the Stone and taking
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that as your inputs and thoughts that you're putting in
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: to say, Okay, Saber, I like this based on my.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: Tools and data. Now help me get that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: And that's the benefit of it, right, is you kind
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: of get it set up that way, so you know,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: like site says, I'm putting in twenty entries in the
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: one fifty max due to bankroll, still learning the format,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: so I'll win a confirmation I'm moving in the right direction.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I've done two Showdown chops this year and I'm tri Yeah,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: phenomenal job. And if you can play less lineups but
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: build them accordingly, then the thing about Showdown that I
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: always say that's a little bit different. Is showdown is more.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: You're way more.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: Likely to see the optimal. There's definitely slights throughout the
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: year we don't see the optimal.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: We're like, holy shit, like someone didn't have the optimal today.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Like that happens. It does, but not like a classic,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: like in this type of setup, if you're playing a
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: one dollar, a three dollar or a we've actually seen
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: title where the five dollar gets one by the optimal
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and then nobody in the main twenty or and whenever
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it's fifteen, eighteen, twenty twenty five, whatever, the main flagship,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: nobody has that optimal and then someone in the five
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: dollars like piss because like damn, I wish I had
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: had this over there or something like that. So yeah,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: you can definitely get away with playing less if that's
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the case.
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: So I don't. I don't play one do one fifty
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: for like the super Bowl or like the first slate
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: if they're really big. But I've gone between like the
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: sixty five and ninety mark, and I feel totally fine
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: with it because, like you're saying, it's when the player
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: pulls more condensed NBA Showdown, MMA, NFL Showdown, you only
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: have so many guys to pick. There's only so many combinations.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Like you said, if you're not taken first or you
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: don't have the optimum most nights, you're losing money. So
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: at the end of the day, knowing that it can
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: get really expensive one fifty and you can be positive
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: sim every single slate, there's still so much very in dfs,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: and especially when the second place second nuts half the time,
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: you're still losing money with big chops. I don't think
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: there's anything wrong, Like this is the one the smaller
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: playerpool stuff, I think is the one time where you're
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: not giving up nearly as much. Whereas you're playing a
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: million on Sunday and people can throw an all the
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty with one hundred and forty thousand
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: people and you throw in ten, it's so much harder
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: to win there. Know what you're getting into. You're playing
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: forty teams, twenty teams in one fifty. Build your game
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: script accordingly, and I don't think it's right to go
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: all in on one game script. But that's why portfolio
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: diversifiers good, like we talk about, or if you're handbuilding,
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: you can build multiple scripts. So some bubbles are far left,
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: some are in the middle, and some are in the right,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: and you just hope you have the right combo there.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: So yeah, nothing wrong in my opinion with throwing a
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: lot less and bankro manager. It's number one. And if
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: you've chopped twice already this year, I mean that's better
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: than a lot of people.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that advice, and I think it's important
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: just because the same as with people always. All if
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I had five hundred lineups tonight, it's like, well you
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: with Pooka in all the captains, then it's not Puka
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: captain that's needed. All five hundred are now dead.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: You didn't win. It's like, so it really doesn't matter.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Hoopster. I think you're back here with us, my man.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: You got us, Yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, back in action to a little weather situation here.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: The internet's gone out about five times today, so this
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: will be the last try if I go out again.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Good luck to everyone in your contest tonight.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: In week eighteen, folks, all right, you were talking a
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: little you were about to get to so we didn't
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: get your take on just Kyen Bijon in the flex
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and then Korum versus Algier versus both type things.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: But any thoughts further on the running backs.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, then just to finish up at quarterback. I don't
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: know where I got cut off, but with Kirk Cousins.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: You know, last time we had a low owned quarterback
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: it was Philip Rivers and you know he was kind
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: of needed and went off. So anytime you can get
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: a quarterback at low ownership, I think it's appealing in
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: the flex and I think that's what we see with Cousins.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: And I don't love Cousins, don't get me wrong, but
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: if he does come in, you know we're on twenty five,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Saber has it at twenty. He does come in around
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: that twenty cent number, I think definitely appealing in the
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: flex position. I mean, the quarterbacks get the first opportunity,
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: you know, basically every single time to touch the ball,
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: So running back situation kind of hit on the ram
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: stuff already. I think this is a game where if
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: they do get a lead, they'd be fine taking the
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: win and just getting the hell out of here and
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: knowing that they're likely the five seed and then you know,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: probably rest some players next week and not risk any
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: sort of injury. So I think they could lean on Kyraen,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: but I really like Korum. I think Korum is a
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: phenomenal play tonight, and again it kind of goes against
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: what I typically do on these slaves. But backup running
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: backs I think are very appealing on both sides. Quorum
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: and Algier. I mean, there's really nothing need to say
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: about Bijon. He's a great play, but they're definitely willing
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: to use Algier and use him in high leverage positions.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Junior's like thirty eight hundred. It's really bad pricing on
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: some of these you know, backup slash, you know value
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: sort of guys. Just bad pricing on Quorum I think
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: at forty six and l Gyear at thirty eight their
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: phenomenal plays on the slate. So that's kind of where
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I'm at with the running backs.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they know it. They're catching on now.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank the store.
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: I think, hey, Hoop has great.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Internet's usually always solid, but if the storm's hitting, and
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I've even got similar here on the East coast of Canada,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: so it's it's part of it freezing rain and winds
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. But we'll move it through, We'll
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: keep it rolling. I don't have too much to add
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: on the running backs. I was saying the title beforehand,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: just how the Stone does a good job of breaking
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: it down on the flex optimal versus the captain, and
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: you just said it with Cousins popped up there again too.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: So if you guys aren't, aren't using the snow. If
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: you're a member, you've got the stone, go use it.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: If you're not a member, get in and get it,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: because this is where you can see different angles of
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: attack and wayte to approach, and that's how people are
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: finding their inputs to be strong, to get strong outputs.
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: Shut up the sites who just said chopped it up twice.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: So congrats to you on using all the tools and
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: putting them to you to your advantage. So I'll go
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: to you here title again. Then we'll go to wide receiver.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: London expected to be good to go. Obviously, Adam's doubtful
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: and we expected to stay that way as well, but
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: we've got who and a bunch of guys behind him.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: We've got London Mooney, and then find find someone who
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: who loves you as much as Kirk Cousins love David
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Stills the Fifth, but he's in the pool as well tonight.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: Also so give us your thoughts.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so for the Falcon side, when they run three
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: receiver sets, its Drake London and starting No. On Mooney
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: and then it is David Stills. So he's got to
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: be in the player pool. Now, he played like forty
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: percent of snaps. Now, if they're trailing a lot and
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: they have to be throwing the ball, they'll run a
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: lot more three receiver sets. And if you're a receiver
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: and you're on the field, random stuff can happen, So
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I'll get some. But he's clearly like the fourth target,
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: behind Dijon, behind Drake London, behind Pitts, behind Mooney, So
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: what that makes them fifth or something. He's clearly way
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: down in the pecking order. But he's twenty eight hundred,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: and he's in a range right by Xavier Sits Xavier Smith,
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Mumpfield some of the tight ends. If somehow Stills outscores
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: those guys, you're looking at a solo ship or pretty
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: close to it, because yeah, the Rams guys will all
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: be high your own. Mumpfield twenty two hundred is probably
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: the most mispriced player on the slate without DeVante Adams.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: They run a ton of thirteen personnel three tight ends.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: I think like broke the record or something in the
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: last forty plus years, some insane number with how much
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: the Rams did use thirteen personnel last game, and I
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: expect that to continue Ferguson Alan Parkinson. But Momfield's still
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: the guy that plays about fifty percent of snaps in
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: the two receiver sets. He had pretty good reports, seemed
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: like with Stafford. After that, it's like Whittington getting a
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: little bit. It's Xavier Smith getting a little bit, and
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I'm fine with them. I think I prefer Smith. He
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: stretches the field a little more, But when we get
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: to these tight ends, like all of them, I think
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: are pretty much better plays because they're on the field
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: a lot more. I do like Exavier Smith though a
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: two thousand. I think he has the best chance to
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: outscore Chalk Mumfield if any of these guys do. I'm
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: also curious, when I throw it back to you, if
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: you guys believe that thirty percent monthfield ownership or if
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: that can go up to closer to forty like we
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: saw Tongs get a good amount of steam yesterday. Ram stuff. Yeah,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Pooka is the man, and like I said, it's Mumfield.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Then it's Xavier Smith and then Whittington two to two.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: They're not on the field much too to at least
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: when he is on the field, he runs a deep
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: route and it can maybe connect on one. But I
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: think it's clearly Smith Mumfield is the preferred plays there.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: Don't love receivers, I don't know. I actually think Drake,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: London and Mooney are pretty strong. And then depending if
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Monfield is only thirty percent, I think he's probably one
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: of the best plays on the slate even at that
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: number because he's just way miss priced. But I'm not
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: sure he stays that low.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Mumfield certainly could be bump Field. He's
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: definitely getting an ownership bump And I mean this thirty
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: feels real at least that much, and to your point,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: maybe could get more because at twenty two hundred he
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: makes a ton work. And then we talked about it earlier.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: With the roster constructions that we're seeing mostly five ones
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: four twos, it's like what makes things work and what
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: gets you Puka and Bijon very easily? Is that? So,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: like you said, I think you gotta take shots on
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: somebody like Xavier Smith, and that's again going back to it,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: I'll keep talking about with the stone.
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: It's their tuner bucks apart. Their projection is not far apart.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Their only thing far apart, and even they're optimals and
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you can see it all. The only thing far apart
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: is their ownership. And if we believe that to be true,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: and possibly going even further in the direction of going
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: up for a guy like Mumfield, then it makes it
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: even better actually just to look at it and to
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: say again, bite the dust and take it.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: It's two inner bucks less. What if it's xavieror Smith.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Yesterday I played Kyle Williams. It was Efton Chisholm was
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: the guy for the exact same price that was right there.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: It happens, man, even in big time games and everything
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: that's going on. So yeah, I think there's certainly a possibility,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: and things like that I do look at and I
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: think are important for showdown. That can make a world
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: of difference when it comes down to if you actually
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: get the job done, how much do you win when
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: you when you are right your point, you always say
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: that's the one for sure, something like that, whop what
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: you got at wide receiver here what else?
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not too much to add. I will say I'm
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: the Mumfield thing. I think it has to be held
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: in in some capacity. I mean, maybe it does come
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: up from the thirty, but there's just a lot of cheap,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: playable guys on the slate, and you know, people will
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: spread it out a little bit. I mean, Mooney at
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: four k you got all these other guys, smith Sills
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: to too, and you go to tight end. You know,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Kobe park Parkinson's only forty four hundred, Ferguson's thirty four,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Davis Allen, you have the backup running back. So I
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: think it will be held in check a little bit.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think it will get much higher. Could be wrong,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: we'll see, but we do have a lot of viable
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: guys in that range, so I think it will be
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: held in check in some capacity. But yeah, not much
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: more to add. I mean, like Smith and at Well
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: probably better suited in like Stafford captain teams, especially at Well,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: because if he gets there, it's probably just like one
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: deep bomb, and then that would mean Stafford spreading it
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: out at least a little bit, and it's not all
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: going to Puka. So I think he's good for like Stafford, Captain, Teams, Sills,
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Smith fine play is Mooney super frustrating, but he's only
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: four K, so nothing too crazy to have.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: I think one thing that stands out then, based on
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: what you said there that makes me think of that
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: is like it's gonna depend on the Algiers and the
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Korums of the world. Like right now, Algier doesn't show
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: twenty percent yet, and Korum shows over twenty percent but
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: not at thirty. So it's like those are the spots
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: it would go. But again, I don't know, it just depends.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: But the way I'm seeing the rosters shakeout, it's like
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: you always need a two K gaup. You just need
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: somebody down there that makes it feel so much better,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and it's like a stretch. So I wonder if it
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: is like even with what you said, who, I think
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: it could be correct, Like he gets held in check
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: at the current number we're at, but that means probably
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: that those other guys also get held in check because
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: that's sort of where it's dispersing amongst and so that
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: would be where some of those Quorum and Algier lineups
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: could become, you know, more unique than you might actually
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: think going in even though they're still you know, owned enough.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: It's just like maybe not as many people as you
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: think can get to them. Another thing too, I made
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: fun of it, but like Sales twenty eight is tough
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: click when there's other guys around him. But like Tompkins
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: drawn all these other guys, it's your point, always hoop
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: with you know, there's no other it's you know, Kyle Pitts,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: it's London, it's Mooney, it's Algier. Bijon is a receiver
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: though right he's got props tonight for almost fifty yards
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: receiving as on top of his rushing props. So it's
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: like that type of stuff adds up quickly when you're like,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: oh but I got to fit some of these other
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: guys in, Like they just do not project, not just
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: projections for points. It's because of that and all of
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: it ties together. They just don't project to be on
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the winning lineups, right on the optimal and things like that.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Like that, you're just not seeing them because there's so
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: many other guys around them that project for just way
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: more and seemingly would be way more likely to get
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: there as well. So title anything else and wide receiver
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: you want to add. If not, you could take us
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: into tight end with Parkts and Ferguson, pits lots of
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: these guys there as well, But I got nothing else
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: to add on top of you guys at wide receiver.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when we get to the FanDuel, the receiving room
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: looks to be like a little different over there, one
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: of the bigger differences with like a Mooney and monthfield price,
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: but nothing more for that. Yeah, and then, man, like
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: I mentioned, you won't see team play three tight ends
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: as much as on the field at the same time
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: as you'll see the Rams play Parkinson, Allen Ferguson. And
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: when that's the case, obviously all of them are in play. Now.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Even though Parkinson's the most expensive, it goes forty four hundred,
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: thirty four hundred, Ferguson twenty four hundred, Allen Parkinson still
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: feels like he'll be the chalkiest, Like he's the most
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: miss priced and you can go let's see. I always
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: like to try and Kyle Pitts eight point ak take
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: him out and go Kobe Parkinson. I think that is
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: very viable on this slate, which shows how much money
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: you really can leave forty four hundred. You're not giving
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: up much in projection, like two and a half three
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: points and you get a forty four hundred savings right there.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: So I think Parkinson's definitely strong. Same with Ferguson. I
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: think you can leave a good amount with him. He
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: did get a touchdown the last game. He almost had two.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I think one got called back. Hoop was all over
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: in that show. Yeah, just a that they definitely trust,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: that has pretty solid pass catching abilities. And you're looking
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: at the touchdown props again, they're always skewed in the
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: wrong direction. I mean, they're robbing you at the end
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: of the day. But plus two sixty five Ferguson plus
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: three ten Allen plus one forty five Parkinson. Like Parkinson
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: is more likely to score than Blake Korum. He's only
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: behind Pooka, Bijon and Kyn Williams on this slate, And
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: a lot of that has to do when they're by
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: the red zone. All three of them will probably be
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: out there, and if it's a play action, they all
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: have a decent chance to get in there. So yeah,
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: you could play three tight ends on your team. When
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: it's all said and done, I'll rank them well, if
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: ownership's true, if Allen and Ferguson are pretty much the
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: same owned, I'd prefer Ferguson, but I'm not sure that's
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: necessarily going to be the case. Falcon side Kyle Pitts
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: is fine at eighty eight hundred. That price is definitely
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: a way up there, but ownership passes. Stay and check
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: a little bit like we're showing just because Cousins is
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: only two hundred more, Kyron's eight hundred, Drake London's one k.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: I think people prefer all of them over pits at
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: that price tag. And then a real dart throw Charlie Warner.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: I probably wouldn't want to leave too much money like
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: to get up to I guess you could for Allen,
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: but like Ferguson Parkinson, I wouldn't want to leave all
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: that money for Warner. But they ran a lot of
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: two tight end sets as well. He was on the
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: field seventy five percent last game. Again, a lot of
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: that has to do with blocking, but one random touchdown
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: could be enough down low if you want a one
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: percent guy in really large field stuff. But yeah, tight
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: ends will be on the field a ton multiple of them.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think who you had the Ferguson
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: touchdown call. It was early, they took it away. They said,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: he's still getting one. We'll give it to him on
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: the next drive or whatever. It was down the road
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: and they got him that touchdown. You had that call
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: last last time, these guys. We had these guys play.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: But what's your your thoughts today?
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, same thing with them, and they keep
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: using them in high leverage situations. He almost looked like
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: a wide receiver too. He's not like built like a
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: tank tight end or anything like. They play him as
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: a wide receivers thirty four hundred. They're using them in
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: very high leverage situations in the red zone. I think he's,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: you know, probably one of my favorite plays on the slate.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: And if it's like you know, Mumford versus him, like,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: if that ownership difference continues to grow, and I know
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: they're not priced exactly the same, there's a what is it,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: twelve hundred, twelve hundred dollars difference between the two. I
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: want way more Ferguson than Mumfield. If Mumfield is going
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: to get into the thirty five percent range and Ferguson
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: stays around twenty ish, I would say, I think that's
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: probably yeah, we have it at seventeen saver as at
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: twenty one, we have probably somewhere in that range. Like
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: Ferguson to me, just a phenomenal play. Parkinson just missed
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: priced for sure at forty four, he'll be very popular.
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: But again, like, man, if Parkinson's gonna have double the
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: ownership with this this Ferguson guy, like I have to
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: lean on Ferguson in that situation, there is one thousand
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: dollars gap the opposite way. Now we're talking Parkinson's another
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: thousand above Ferguson. But man, I think Ferguson is just
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: a phenomenal play and all sorts of builds, no matter
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: what you're doing. Pitt's at eighty eight, like the price
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: is a little uncomfortable, but like title said that, I'll
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: definitely keep his ownership in check a little bit. And
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: you know, we saw his ceiling a couple of weeks ago,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: albeit it was without uh, without Drake London, but I
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: think you know, at low pretty low ownership, low ownership
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: for a showdown slay, I think he's fine. Davis Allen
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: twenty four hundred to me, better suited for Stafford Captain teams,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: and then yeah, if you want to throw this Werner
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: guy in there at at twelve hundred, I don't necessarily
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: hate that, but for me, it's, uh, it's all about
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Ferguson Again. I think the dude's legit, and they use
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: him in a way that you would want your guy
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: to be used if you're playing him in fantasy.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's the key, And I think that
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: sale thing about tonight too is a lot of the
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: way the pricings that's up you could if you were,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: depending on your style of build, and even if you
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: have one lineup and you're building for a game script,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: like I said earlier, if you want be you can play.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Algier with it, if that's your script.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: If you want Kien's a little tougher because I like
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: him in the Captain, but it could be Kiren gets
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: there and then you need Blake korhum later whatever.
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: Like it's possible. But yeah, it's a little bit trickier.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: But for these tight ends, I think you could definitely see,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: you know, Stafford throw to Puka, Stafford throw to Parkinson,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: and Stafford throw to Ferguson, and that's just how it
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: sets up, so don't be afraid at forty four and
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: thirty four hundred, like you have to choose it. The
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: other thing about that is if you land on a
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: forty four hundred dollars lineup where you or five k
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: left and you're like thinking, let's plug in Parkinson, you
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: could sacrifice those four points or whatever, three or three
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: and a half four points in projection and just play
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Ferguson and.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: Get a way lower owned version of that.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: If you think it's Ferguson over Parkinson, he could definitely
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: beat him in one game tonight on this slate. So
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: it's possible. I think that's always things that I'm looking at,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: versus you're not doing that in too many other places,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: to be honest, on this slate, it's just not really possible.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: You know, you're not playing You're not very often at
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: least playing like Sills over London or something right you're playing.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: You're not playing Field over Pookas with Booker or something
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: like that. So I don't know title anything you want
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: to add at Kickers and D's. I know some good
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: FanDuel stuff Hoop will get to in a minute here
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: for certain on this one, but anything else title you
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: want to add or kickers and d's thoughts.
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think kickers and d's have to be
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: pretty low owned, maybe combined, some of the lowest we've seen,
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: just for the sense of they're all priced above these
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: month fields, These Fergusons, Xavier Smith, all these really live
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: plays with projections that will be on the field. You
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: can get them for cheaper, so they're almost in a
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: dead range. And I definitely prefer kickers over defenses. I
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: think if someone's scoring like fifteen, it's more likely that
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be one of these kickers kicking a bunch.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: And if that's the case, when they do, that means
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: touchdowns aren't being scored, which can leverage some stuff off there.
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I'll be overweight both kickers we
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: saw yesterday. Obviously, when eighty points are scored, a pick
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: six isn't even close to the winner with the Bears defense. Man,
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: if a defense is on the winner, you're looking at
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: a lot less dupes. I just want games script, what
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: game flow is it really going to be like that?
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: I think if I'm playing rams in the flex like
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: I almost Kiren Orcorum and maybe even both are fine.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: They're just pounding the football and it's boring that way.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: And then yeah, if I'm playing Falcons D, I don't
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: really even know what you need random touchdown maybe two,
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: So I don't love that as much. But I think
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: we see very low ownership relative to most showdown slates
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: with both, just because of a lot of really good
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: players with bet are cheaper and with solid projections.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that call out, and I think you know,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: better suited for the flex by the looks of things
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: for both, but in the right type of build it
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: could certainly make sense. The funny thing, too, was the
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Chicago Bears d right off the hop last night fifteen
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: seconds in nowhere to be found on those lineups after
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: everybody else scored a million points. But it's just crazy
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: how it always starts out and you're like, oh, you
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: had the laptop being tossed out the window, Jeff, Things
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: like that posted in the discord, But hoop.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: Any thoughts on Kickers and from you my men, Ram.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously rams are the more appealing defense, but
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: they're going to be definitely held in check because of
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: the price type. They're fifty two hundred dollars and they're
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: more expensive than all those Rams tight tight ends that
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: look good, all the Rams wide receivers that look relatively good.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: They're more expensive than all those guys, more expensive than
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: even Algier and Quorum, So they have to be held
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: in check. That's the definitely the argument for them. Probably,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'd guess Rams D around ten percent
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: is maybe, so like that's the only one I would play.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: I don't want to play Falcons defense. Not many turnovers
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: for the Rams. They'll run the ball if they get
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: a lead. Kickers, I think mevs guys fine at five
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: k I'm not opposed as zing Gonzalez, but definitely prefer
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: the Rams kicker in defense over anything on the Falcon side.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to look like man, even if
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: you have somebody our man go collect is busy in
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: the chat today, we appreciate you said. Nobody is mentioning
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: London tonight. Leads me to think he gets squeezed ownership wise. Definitely,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: thing is possible up top like the captain spot.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean even I mean he's ten, I
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: mean ninety eight hundred. I mean if you're playing Puka
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: or bijon up top, I mean it it'll dry up
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: pretty quick. I mean, you probably only get one more
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: spend and is it going to be Drake London? You know,
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: maybe not at I think that's a good point. I
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: think he definitely has a chance to not only get
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: squeezed up top, but in the flex a little bit too.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: The problem is is, like I just looked, I'm not
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: saying that you need to go this route. Just to
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: give an example though, is it if you run a
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: London captain up, do you want cousins with him? Well,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: if you want Puka on the other side, or if
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: you want Stafford to Puka like you're out of money quick,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: like you have almost nothing left. So it's a certain
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: type of build for sure. But the other part of
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: it would be is like, Okay, if that's happening, well
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: then you can't just like, oh well then I'll go
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: to Kyroen instead or something. Yeah, that'll save you money,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: But does it really make as much sense. Anything can happen,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: of course and could make sense, but it's just tougher
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: to have it all shake out. So you have to
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: really look at roster construction when it comes to that.
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: But I like to call out for sure and think
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: there's definitely some meat on the bone there. If it
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: ends up being that way, London could stand out if
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: others are spreading it around, or the score is lower,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: different things like that. So great point FanDuel hoop, I'll
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: go to you. This is the two ic and then
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: I'll let you take over one is where's it at here?
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is eighty eight hundred on DraftKings, eight k
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: on FanDuel, and Williams is ninety six hundred on DraftKings,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: eighty four hundred on FanDuel for Kiren.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Kiren's a big one. I think eighty four hundred
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: on FanDuel where his style of play definitely fits scoring
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: much better than on DraftKings. That's a cheap price tag
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: eighty four. He'll be much higher earned on a FanDuel
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: than over on DK. Those cheap running backs on DK
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: aren't cheap, they're the cheap backup running backs aren't as
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: cheap on FanDuel. Seventy two hundred for Quorum, and then
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Ljier is seven k and then some of these cheap
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: pass catchers as well. Momfield forty six hundred, Mooney sixty
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: two hundred, Stills fifty four hundred, so they continue to
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: do a better job of pricing overall, I'd say on
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: these on these showdown slaves for the most part, so
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: the value is not as cheap on FanDuel as it
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: is over on DK our ferguson guys thirty four hundred
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: on both. You know, I think really good play like
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: David Stills is fifty four hundred on FanDuel and what
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: else like even Whittington. Whittington is forty two hundred on FanDuel.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: So the cheap guys are a little more expensive, But
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: in terms of the spens Kyron Williams definitely stands out
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: at eighty four hundred on FanDuel, where again his scoring
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: fits FanDuel the way he scores fits fandel even better.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, title, did you see anything different? I mean some
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: of the stuff is correlated as well, like corum related
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: if you will, with Blake Korm being forty six hundred
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: moving to seventy two hundred versus the flip on the
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: other side, like on FanDuel, DraftKings are said ninety six
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: and forty six is five k on FanDuel. People are
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: just going to have that money to get to Williams
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: even if they like Korm, it's going to be optimizers
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: that get people there and things like that. But that's
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: a hard click on a single entry for a lot
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: of people, I'm sure, even though he could definitely be
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: the guy for twelve hundred bucks less anything else like
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: that that you saw or anything else that stood out.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, not really, you guys. The backup running backs being
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: way priced up and like the Mumfield's four hundred less
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: than Parkinson whereas it's twenty two hundred difference. I believe
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: it was on DraftKings or like the Whittington, the Stills,
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: So that's going to lead to like what value is
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: appropriately or miss priced? Davis Allen at twenty two hundred
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: I think will be a lot more popular on fandal
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: just because there's really no one else, like Charlie Warner
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: is the only one that will be on the field
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: a little bit right below and then Exaveer Smith three
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: k Ferguson three to four. I think that's where a
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: lot of people will go for the value because they're
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: cheaper than the Mumpfields, Stills Mooney. So yeah, it's actually
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: a pretty different slate on FanDuel relative to DraftKings.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Ferguson's a good call too, same price both sites.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: And the other point you make too, like Sills is
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: more on FanDuel than Parkinson. Yeah, nuts, it's twenty eight
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: under verse almost five K versus five k versus fifty
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: four hundred.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: You think five one's popular on DraftKings, I mean five
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: to one, four to two on fanduels like it's gonna
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: be mega, mega popular because all those fringe algiers Mooney
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Stills like their price up insane amount. And I think
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Kickers might be a little more popular on FanDuel as well,
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: just because of better pricings. Yeah, Fandel's done better, to
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: be honest on the showdown, I don't know if you
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: want better pricing or worse pricing though, just with the
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: amount of money you can leave and all that. So
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: I truly don't don't know the answer to that. Main
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: slates give me better pricing all day long.
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: So yeah, interesting, that is interesting, I would say, based
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: on my results this year, I like the Draftking pricing better.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: But h and maybe it is because certain things, like
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: you just people just get so fixated on something like
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: the brock Bowers slate. I remember, obviously he's brought powers
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: and it was eight K. I get it, but it
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: was like that was really the argument was he's a
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: K and so it just gets decided by a price
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: point that he's too cheap and therefore he has to
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: be twenty five percent of the captain. But it doesn't
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: always work out that way and he can easily have
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: a bad game and then that's why it's awesome. But yeah,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: I like the pricing on DraftKings. It is such a
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: different slate though over on FanDuel title. Any other final
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: thoughts from you before from you before we get out of.
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: Here, No, I mean, even if you're not that excited
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: for rams Falcon seven point spread was close than I expected.
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: And yeah, it'll be a little over a month and
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: what no football for a long time, So I'm gonna
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: enjoy every single one of these. And hey, we got
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: who for the important thing. And he said he already
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: said his good luck to everyone if he if he left.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he bailed on the outro man he didn't want
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: to give his final thoughts, but he did earlier. Like
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: you said, he gave him the good luck. So yeah,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate everybody. Hopefully you had a good holidays
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: or if you're still celebrating, that's awesome. Let's see. We'll
• 1:00:09
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• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: There he is, here, he is.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to wish I were a good luck
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: and happy new Year. I'll leave it at that because
• 1:00:20
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• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly called a shot earlier. Thank you to Hoopster,
• 1:00:27
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• 1:00:29
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