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The Peach in the Tailpipe with Cynthia Bailey & Crystal Minkoff · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos Kings,
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  Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most
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  Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten
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  Speaker 1: years of production experience. Twice a week on Reality with
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  Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the
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  Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows, and revisit unforgettable
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  Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. No, no,
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  Speaker 1: let's have a real conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I think we are all right.
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  Speaker 3: Are you sweating?
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  Speaker 2: Let me mediate? Okay, Crystal meet Carlos.
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  Speaker 4: Hi, Carlos, How are you nice to me?
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  Speaker 1: Are gorgeous?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you?
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  Speaker 1: I know exactly who you are.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: You don't think I like you, No, I don't. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I think you're happy that I'm here, But I don't think.
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  Speaker 4: In the past, I don't think you've liked me as
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  Speaker 4: a housewife. And that's fair. That's a different thing so me.
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  Speaker 4: You don't even know who I am. But I think
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  Speaker 4: that you've been critical and you know we're here to
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  Speaker 4: talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you remember anything I've said?
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  Speaker 4: I think that you probably have said and I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: say probably because I haven't looked back, but I have
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  Speaker 4: definitely seen, you know, negative comments, probably boring, not being truthful,
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  Speaker 4: stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: I never called you boring. Oh okay, no, no, So
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  Speaker 1: it's funny because somebody else checked me before. I'll get
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  Speaker 1: checked all the time, Cynthia, Right, yeah, no, because sometimes
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  Speaker 1: what happens is Teddy Mellencamp checked me once when I
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  Speaker 1: first was on to teeth and a pot, okay, and
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  Speaker 1: she said, I got a bun of pick with you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, what happened? She said, you don't like me?
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  Speaker 1: I said, what do you mean? She said, you talked
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  Speaker 1: about me? I said, okay, I want to clear the air.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to do this with you, so as
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  Speaker 1: you and I have a podcast and I give my
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  Speaker 1: opinion based on the scenes.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And what I always say is I don't know you
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  Speaker 1: ladies as women, mothers, wives. I only talk about the scenes.
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  Speaker 1: So when it comes to you, what I what I
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  Speaker 1: know for sure I have said is I always believed
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  Speaker 1: that you have so much more than what you presented,
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  Speaker 1: and I felt you weren't giving all that I could see.
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  Speaker 1: And look, I want this is me being very honest
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  Speaker 1: with you. I appreciated I love that this is good.
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  Speaker 1: So I felt that you weren't living up to your potential,
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  Speaker 1: and I may have criticized a lot of that, but
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  Speaker 1: listen you as a person with your water company and
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  Speaker 1: you being a boss chick and all that. I'm here
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  Speaker 1: for it. And I apologize if I ever say anything
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  Speaker 1: that was out of line, because I really do my
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  Speaker 1: best to keep it to the show, but I also
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  Speaker 1: respect people's feelings and as a grown as man, looking
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  Speaker 1: to your face and that's why you're sitting there next
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  Speaker 1: to me versus my friend of twenty years, is because
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  Speaker 1: I wanted you to know that I invited you here,
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  Speaker 1: not to read you, shade you, is to welcome you
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  Speaker 1: to my home. Thank you, and I am happy you
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  Speaker 1: said yes because you did not have to. There's tons
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  Speaker 1: of women who don't say yes right who may have
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  Speaker 1: thought he doesn't like me, because sometimes people on social
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  Speaker 1: media college read you and they'd be like, did you
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  Speaker 1: read me? I'm like, I don't read you, but I understand.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm sorry, thank you, and apology wasn't necessary. I'm
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  Speaker 3: so and I think that there's so.
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  Speaker 4: Much to say right now, but uh yeah, I already
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  Speaker 4: told him.
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  Speaker 2: We're all a long winded.
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  Speaker 4: So I think the first thing to address in general
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  Speaker 4: is living up to potential. I think that puts sort
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  Speaker 4: of an ideology on a housewife thought is unfair because
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  Speaker 4: what it's the potential that you like. And again, this
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  Speaker 4: is your podcast. You're a lot of any opinion that
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  Speaker 4: you want. So do I agree that I wasn't exactly
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  Speaker 4: who I really am on it? Yes, And we've gone
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  Speaker 4: through it through our podcast about.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, oh that's what we are. We didn't even get
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  Speaker 2: to the introduction.
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  Speaker 1: We are.
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  Speaker 2: This is Crystal Honey from Humble Brand.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Subscribe to the podcast is really good. I'm a subscriber.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 4: They are Yeah, we really it's it's an incredible experience
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  Speaker 4: because I think why I said yes it is because
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  Speaker 4: I think through humble Brag, I've been able to show
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  Speaker 4: who I really am. And I actually love walking out
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  Speaker 4: of things like this where people like, oh that is
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  Speaker 4: not who I thought she was, you know, And that's
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  Speaker 4: something that has been important to me because, as you know,
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  Speaker 4: as a producer on this particular show, there is a
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  Speaker 4: narrow storyline and perspective out of a person that I
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  Speaker 4: have no control over. And that's Okay, I signed it away.
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  Speaker 4: I am married to a director who's like, this is
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  Speaker 4: not your show. This is someone else's show, and you
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  Speaker 4: either say yes or no. And so now this I
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  Speaker 4: get this platform to hopefully change minds or not, you know.
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  Speaker 4: But so I said yes. But I do think that
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  Speaker 4: sometimes your takes are wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's totally fine. And one thing about me.
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  Speaker 1: My podcast is strictly through the lens of a producer
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  Speaker 1: who's been doing this since two thousand and eight.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's what makes no sense to me about you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, let's have real conversation.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, because other people who watch and judge and report
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  Speaker 4: on the show, I imagine I understand because they have
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  Speaker 4: a very limited perspective on putting a show together. But
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  Speaker 4: some of who's done housewives, I would think that you
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  Speaker 4: would be able to read between the lines more.
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  Speaker 1: And I think I do so in my defense, okay,
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  Speaker 1: in my defense, no.
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  Speaker 2: All right, okay, we'll get it in there. Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, this is good, it's good.
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  Speaker 2: And literally leave and I go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: So the reason why people, really my podcast is a
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  Speaker 1: expert opinion based on my profession in this business. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so I see things that the average audience doesn't see.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of my opinions are deemed wrong or
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  Speaker 1: my takes are deemed wrong because I know how the
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  Speaker 1: sausage is made, and I know the psychology of the
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  Speaker 1: women who signed on to do the show. So example,
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  Speaker 1: and we can get into this show right now, and
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  Speaker 1: we'll lookt to Atlanta Housewives next. I called out day
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  Speaker 1: one the alliance between Garcell and Sutton, and I was
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  Speaker 1: read for filth for three years straight. I said, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying they don't like each other. I'm saying their
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  Speaker 1: friendship is based on being on the show, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't believe for one second they have a genuine friendship.
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  Speaker 1: Garcel and both retweeted, reposted that I was wrong, and
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  Speaker 1: that's fine based on this reunion that just aired and
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they're not friends to the degree in
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  Speaker 1: which we were sold, I was right. So I'm not Listen, Listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I'm perfect. No one is right,
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  Speaker 1: but I know that my expert opinion is largely viewed
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  Speaker 1: from the mass is as the wrong take. And listen,
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  Speaker 1: I never worked on your show. Yeah you know, and
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  Speaker 1: that's why for me, I always say I see things
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  Speaker 1: this way but listen.
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  Speaker 4: But here's the thing that take isn't necessarily wrong. But
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  Speaker 4: also I think you have to also put it in
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  Speaker 4: the perspective of this show doesn't allow to have natural friendships.
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  Speaker 4: That alliance is part of the experience. But what happened
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  Speaker 4: at the very end, from what I see because I
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  Speaker 4: was in it, like I know who I talked to
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  Speaker 4: when the when we're not filming, and that's a long
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  Speaker 4: period of time. It's eight months, right that you're not
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  Speaker 4: you don't have to film with them, You're not getting
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  Speaker 4: paid to be with these people.
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  Speaker 3: And sudden Garcel saw each other a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, and yes, but I do think that there's a
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  Speaker 4: and we've talked about this on our pod, is that
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  Speaker 4: there's just inherently like an alliance that happens just because
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  Speaker 4: you enter the show.
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  Speaker 3: It's like you have to you need to find someone
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  Speaker 3: that you trust.
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  Speaker 4: But I think what happened at the end is because
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  Speaker 4: of real friendships felt broken to me. I feel like
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  Speaker 4: Garcel really felt betrayed by her friend, not the alliance
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  Speaker 4: is broken. I think that she really felt like you
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  Speaker 4: did not defend me right, And now.
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  Speaker 3: So there is it's a great area.
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  Speaker 1: I like you right. But one thing I will say
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  Speaker 1: in Synthia time. In Cynthia and Nini's friendship started season
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  Speaker 1: three on the show correct and when they got into
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  Speaker 1: the most challenging part of their relationship after the Mexico
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  Speaker 1: trip season six, when Niey Leeks called Cynthia's then husband
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  Speaker 1: a bitch, and we saw that the tide has shifted
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. Things were tested here and there. But
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  Speaker 1: season seven is when they were divided, and that was
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  Speaker 1: a real friendship. Their husbands hung out, they hung out
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  Speaker 1: as couples, so you do establish a friendship. But the
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  Speaker 1: reason why I wanted to bring Synthy into this is
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  Speaker 1: because their dynamic was never disrupted because somebody did not
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  Speaker 1: have someone's back, and that's an alliance to me, not
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  Speaker 1: a friendship. Their friendship did not last because if Cynthia
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  Speaker 1: and Belly ever said anything off putting to Rob, I
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  Speaker 1: think you'll be like, now, look, honey, you're my girl
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  Speaker 1: with that's my husband.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's the difference. You know, when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to guard son AND's son, I think, well, you're
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  Speaker 1: don to have my back, Okay, move on from it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I have your back. We're still Bessie. Look
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  Speaker 1: was gonna have coffee, but to not be friends at all,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm off the show. That's when I think things
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  Speaker 1: were sort of like in my favor. But Cynthia will
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  Speaker 1: get your point of view.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, well okay, I'll just speak to I'll just speak
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  Speaker 5: to you as a person, because Carlos, you were one
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  Speaker 5: of my first show runners, right, my first or second
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  Speaker 5: show runners.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, started season three. I was a actually I was
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  Speaker 1: a field producer.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but you were there.
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  Speaker 1: I was there, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, in the house
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  Speaker 1: with you, Noel computer.
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  Speaker 2: So I go back almost what ten years with you?
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  Speaker 1: Longer we go back fourteen years.
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  Speaker 5: Right, So what I will say is your lens is
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  Speaker 5: definitely way more interesting than someone who's not a part
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  Speaker 5: of this type of production because you are literally part
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  Speaker 5: of You're one of the wizards behind the curtain. You
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  Speaker 5: know how it works, you know how to move story,
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  Speaker 5: you know how casting works, you know all this, You
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  Speaker 5: have all the you have all then to the test,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: So, but what I will say, you can appreciate.
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  Speaker 5: I think with that you can appreciate when you see
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  Speaker 5: the potential and a housewife. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 5: and it's not from a I was never you know
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  Speaker 5: that I'm a personality, but I was never one of
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  Speaker 5: the biggest personalities on the shelf. And I think one
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  Speaker 5: of I'd never thrived in a space where it was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 5: we need Cynthia to drop this bomb.
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  Speaker 2: See about that life.
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  Speaker 5: You knew that I sucked at certain things, and I
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  Speaker 5: was able to be a part of a cast where
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  Speaker 5: we had a villain, We had people that were more
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  Speaker 5: than happy to come in there and fuck it up,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And I always was like,
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  Speaker 5: oh my god, Oh my god, do I have to
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  Speaker 5: like I just always was very uncomfortable. And that was
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  Speaker 5: me just really trying to be authentic and as far
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  Speaker 5: as who I am. And it wasn't like I wasn't
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  Speaker 5: looking at it when I started to seize it. Am
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  Speaker 5: I a good housewife? I just came on Peter and
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  Speaker 5: I just came on and just were us And it
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  Speaker 5: ended up.
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  Speaker 2: Like you saw the first Friend contract. I didn't know
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  Speaker 2: that was gonna be a thing.
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  Speaker 1: And what did I say to you when you did
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  Speaker 1: the French You looked at.
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  Speaker 5: Me and you said you'll be back next season, And
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  Speaker 5: I was like, what does that even mean? Like I
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  Speaker 5: didn't even know that even meant anything. I just was
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  Speaker 5: like trying to get to understand why I felt like
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  Speaker 5: in that time, my friend who I was given to
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  Speaker 5: by the show, Nini, was the person that they wanted
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  Speaker 5: me to meet, and I came on the show with her,
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  Speaker 5: so my loyalty was completely to her, and I didn't
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  Speaker 5: understand being first season what was happening because it felt
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  Speaker 5: like she wasn't being that loyal to me, and it
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  Speaker 5: was like, you know, they made a joke.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, single black female. I mean, it wore
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  Speaker 2: me out about that damn friend contract. Okay, I looked
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  Speaker 2: like a crazy person watching, yeah, with everything, but what
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  Speaker 2: I like you not to sit there? I know, not
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  Speaker 2: at all.
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  Speaker 5: I mean I looked crazy first season, and you know
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  Speaker 5: I did right like I did.
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  Speaker 2: We were a hot ass miss crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I say.
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  Speaker 2: That was myself and I.
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  Speaker 5: Think being authentic to who I am, and Peter was
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  Speaker 5: being his authentic self. I think, you know, we resonated
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  Speaker 5: with a lot of people and that's just how it goes.
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  Speaker 5: One of the things that I love about this woman
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  Speaker 5: sitting next to me is you know, she's not the
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  Speaker 5: loudest woman in the room either.
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  Speaker 2: However, this got allowed to say.
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  Speaker 5: And I feel like, you know, some people get their
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  Speaker 5: sea legs quicker than others. I feel like Atlanta is
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  Speaker 5: a very different show than the Beverly Hills Housewife because
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  Speaker 5: I've actually shot on both of them.
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  Speaker 2: And honey, let me tell you something. Beverly Hills is
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  Speaker 2: a cake walker.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, well, come on, come on the leg bail, come
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  Speaker 5: on the lake bail, and.
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  Speaker 4: None of us would survive a day in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, class for the appetizer like you would not.
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  Speaker 2: You would not. It's a very different thing.
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  Speaker 4: My husband is desperate for me when next season, for
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  Speaker 4: just to be in the background and watch, and he's like,
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  Speaker 4: your whole experience on Housewives will feel like nothing like
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  Speaker 4: stupid because you're gonna watch how the Atlanta girls work
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  Speaker 4: and that you everything affected you, and you're like, you're
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  Speaker 4: so stupid.
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  Speaker 5: Listen, if you came to Atlanta and I took you
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  Speaker 5: to film with the Atlanta Housewives for one day, you
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  Speaker 5: would come back to Beverly Hills and let all those bitches.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, because we are the blueprint but drama.
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  Speaker 1: The only Beverly Hills Housewife who I think has a
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  Speaker 1: chance of surviving Atlanta Housewives is Erica jan I think
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  Speaker 1: I think Erica Jane would just be like the funny
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  Speaker 1: thing is I think Erica Jane will love it? Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I think I think.
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  Speaker 4: She fell like okay, bitch, got a word, because I
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  Speaker 4: actually feel like she doesn't feel like she belongs in
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  Speaker 4: Beverly Hills. Really, I don't think she feels like she
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  Speaker 4: belongs in the cast, like this is not actually her world.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that she would thrive in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 5: Actually, I think she's actually from Atlanta, right, or just
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  Speaker 5: from Jordan, from Georgia, Georgia.
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  Speaker 4: Because she'd always pushed me, like I know you're from Northridge.
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  Speaker 4: Where's Northridge? And she's like pushing me all the time.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I am from Northridge, and this is who
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  Speaker 4: I am in this environment, and this environment is not natural,
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  Speaker 4: Like this is not a natural environment for me. Like
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  Speaker 4: I don't ever live with them, bel Air. I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I live out here. These are my people, but this
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  Speaker 4: experience is not real to me, and I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how to fake it because I'm not an actor and
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  Speaker 4: I've certainly been around it my whole adult life and
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  Speaker 4: my childhood growing up in LA but I didn't know
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  Speaker 4: how to do that. And so when I feel like inauthentic,
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  Speaker 4: I really clam up. I really like when I'm in
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  Speaker 4: a place where I feel good, I'm out there, I'm
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  Speaker 4: really open.
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  Speaker 3: I stand in my truth. But in that environment.
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  Speaker 4: And it's not to say that everything, as you know
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  Speaker 4: the show is not fake. It's not a fake show,
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  Speaker 4: but it's not natural to sit in a room the cameras,
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  Speaker 4: but also with seven people that you've never met for
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  Speaker 4: four months, day and day out talk about the same things.
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  Speaker 4: Like I'd be like, let's just move on, but you
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  Speaker 4: don't do that. And so because I get pushed, I'm like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how to act this way. And no
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  Speaker 4: matter how many years it took, like I'm like, I
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  Speaker 4: just can't pretend that those issues that you're talking about
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  Speaker 4: actually matter to me.
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  Speaker 3: That was my problem.
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  Speaker 5: And for example, like we talked about Crystal, like say,
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  Speaker 5: like you or me, whatever we have fallen out on
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  Speaker 5: the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like we have an issue in a scene.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Well if I'm when I'm pissed, I need to
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  Speaker 5: sit in it for a minute. I can't just automatically
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  Speaker 5: be like okay, girl, well that was a cute scene.
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  Speaker 2: You want to go have a margarita? No, I do
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  Speaker 2: not want to, absolutely do not want to until we
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  Speaker 2: get to the end of it.
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  Speaker 5: Like, but some of the ladies literally I would get
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  Speaker 5: into it with them and they'd be like, okay, girl,
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  Speaker 5: what are we doing after?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: We doing after yes, And that part was the part
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: that fucked me up because I was like, I.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: Just have to say this in real life, if you
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: get into it with your friend or someone in real like,
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: you're not going to have a drink.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: With them after five minutes.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: After the next day, yes, you need like give me
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: two months and maybe we can have a drink.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: You give me a month. So then you're getting.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Thrown into this and you're like, Okay, you're gonna meet
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: with this person tonight. I'm like, I don't even know
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: what the fuck just happened, you know. I'm like I'm
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: accused of something or I'm supposed to call someone else,
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: like it's too much, And it was like so it's
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: like all I can compare. It is like if you're
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: a kid like studying math, right, like I do know
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: how to add, so then you now you want me
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: to subtract?
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Now you want me to multiply like I just wasn't.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: I hadn't fully realized this moment for me yet. So
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: then I'm supposed to do this part, in this part
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: and then so just it's paralyzing for me. So let
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: me ask you this, because I know we're all over
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: the place.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, it's fine, it's fine. No, No,
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: We're good. We're good, We're good. I have been around
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: you for twenty minutes. Yeah, I know one hundred percent
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: while you were cast first of all, and she knows
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: how I'm lie. You are strikingly beautiful number one. You're
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: like gorgeous, right, and you are a spit fire and
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: for me and listen, I definitely heard what you said about,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: you know, me with the potential whatever, what is interesting
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: to me. And this is what Teddy Mellencamp said to me.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: She said it took me to be removed from the
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: show to sit back and be like, if I had
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: one more season, I probably would have gotten it. Because
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Cynthia is right, some people get it instantly. Any leaks,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Kenya Borg, you know there are certain people who get
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: it instantly, and there's certain people. Cynthia would tell you
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: we would be like Cynthia. She was like, but this
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: is the gag about sympon Belly Honey. Some people called
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: her boring. I remember once did right, And I think
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: it's quite interesting that of all the girls, Symph and
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Belly still on the show. You know what I mean?
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: So being yourself always tell the girls this sounds so
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: like simple, but being yourself is so easy. However, I
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: do understand that it's not natural to be in a
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: room with six other people that aren't your besties and
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: you have to talk about things that you ordinarily may
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: want to ignore, may I want to deal with or
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about. So when you look at
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the show, now we got bows who I love, Bows
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: would love to get your too all opinion. When you
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: look at the show now, Bows, dere Erica, Kyle Sutton,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Garcel's not removed from it, Jennifer Tilly is a friend
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: of and so it's Kathy Hilton. Do you feel like huh?
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I could come back on the Belly Hills Housewives and
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: bring it on.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Percent and I in the same way as like what
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Teddy said, I needed the separation. I don't necessarily want
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: to go back, but now that I see, like having
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: the separation gave me a wider perspective because when I
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: was in it, I had a lot of other factors
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: that felt like I had to limit myself and that
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: was on me. That wasn't anybody else but me, and
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I did that to myself, your own head, in my
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: own head, in my own world. I walked in feeling
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: like I had so much to lose. I was very
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: scared about public persona, was afraid of my husband's career,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: like a lot of that, Like we were pressed not
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: to do the show from his agencies.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: It was a lot of that.
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: And at the end of the day we came together,
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: we're like, well, we know we're not problematic, so like
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: we're fine.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: But it still felt like I had to protect all
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. Protection.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm very I think a lot of us.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Go into it think it okay, I'll do it, but
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: you know, I gotta protect this, I gotta protect that.
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: Like for me, it was like Noel was the main one.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Like she was she came on you know, as you know,
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: when she was eight years old and now she's twenty five.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: So I always tried to protect her. But so I
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: understand what you're saying.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: You know, when you come in with that mindset, you
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: want to be yourself and give yourself, but you're not
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: trying to now follow with your husband because you're on
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: the TV show.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Right, I wouldn't have what I'm saying.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: I would never do that, So it's else like whereas like,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: I know, I remember the first season, actually every season,
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: random girls on the show would be like, you don't
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: realize how big the show is. They would say that
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: to me all the time when we're filming. You act
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: like it's very small, and I'm like, I'm not trying
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: to act like it's I'm like, but it's smaller than
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: my life with my husband, it's smaller than his career.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: It is smaller for me, And I think they resented
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: that because they would say like, why are you like
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: this is you're gonna be really famous, and I'm like, like,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: it actually freaked me out. Every time they said that
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: to me, I was like, I try to get smaller
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: because I was like, I don't wantnyone to see me out.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: So I really struggled with that because I've always felt
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: very comfortable my life and I'm very comfortable my opinions
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: and I would call people out all day long, but
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: it's still in your bubble.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: It's not for public consumption. So I think some people
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: like really thrive.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: Like you're saying the Nanies and the Kenyas of the world,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: like they're so fun to watch, and I'm like what,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: I would watch all the shows to like get you know,
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: inspired by them, But they're just different people and they
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: have different endgames to it, you know. And I think
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I walked in because Teddy's the one that brought me on.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you know that she put my
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: name in. Yes, I didn't have an endgame. I didn't
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: have like the business, a new business I wanted to start,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: and I was very protected with the business. I didn't
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: we didn't show it and stuff like that. Like I
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: just didn't know where this was going to go. And
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: I think when you have that, you have the steps
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: to get there. But I didn't have an end so
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I wasn't sure. I just always felt very confused of like,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: you know, and the girls would say, boo, why are
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: you here? It was a lot of and I think
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: that's if they actually had a show that really just
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: didn't edit anything and cut a show about making a
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: show that would be the most fascinating, Like watching the
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: girls who really are like cutthroat because they want to
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: stay on the show. That to me was the most
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: fat I'm like, who's really out to get me? Because
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: they were the show, not because they're actually out to
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: get me. They don't care about me. I'm just the
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: new girl on the show.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: You know, you break up?
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: Teddy Mellcam, who we now know is going through stage
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: for a cancer, talked about how she brought from the show.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Have you spoken to Teddy recently? How is she doing?
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Have you, Cynthia?
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: I've texted her, but I don't expect her to text
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: me back right now. I mean, I know she's bombarded,
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: but she knows that we spoke.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: I did you know?
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: I used to fill in for Tamra for two teas
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: and then they did a couple of live shows that
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: I was a part of, I think the two that
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: they did, and then shortly after what the divorce news happened,
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: and then the cancer thing happened. So I was definitely
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: in communication with her with the whole divorce thing. She
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: actually told me before it was before it was public.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: So Teddy and are good. We been in the Big
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: Brother House and I might have been known. And when
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: they voted to keep Teddy in, she was gonna win
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: to get her nut as soon as possible. But you
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: know me, miss loyal Cynthia, they can say what they
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: want to say.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I told her. She said, do I have your vote?
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: And I was like yeah, And you know, a hundred
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: people came to me and were like, we're getting Teddy
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: out and I was like, but I told her I
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: was going to vote for when I said, I was
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: the only one and I did the same thing. But
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Toddrick say what you want, honey, I am a friend. Indeed,
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: I will rat all the way to the end.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Now I mess Chetty the day of that, I heard,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: but our mutual friends are like her best friends are
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: like my really close friends. So at the end of
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: the day, like whatever happened with the show, she left,
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: I came on. We've really tried to maintain like our
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: French like being cool outside of that because it's very
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: toxic within. And at the end of the day, we
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: never filmed together, so we didn't have to go through
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: that together. But you know, we've stayed like like when
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: we see each other it's with like our mom friends,
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: got it, Yeah, got it? Yeah, we've really separated all
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: of that. And I know she's been very critical of
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: me on her pod, but I say that, I'm like,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: you're like, I don't listen. I don't like we got
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: to keep that separate. If that's how you feel about
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: me on the show, great, but like I'd rather like
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: us stay kind of on this side of that.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Have you too? Are you too caught up with Beverly
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Hills Housewives reunion?
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I don't watch you two. I don't watch it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Part you don't watch Beverly Hills Housewives anymore? Crystal? Is it?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Is it just to watch it?
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: It was too soon?
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I think?
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I yeah, I mean I'm really honest about it was
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: too soon. I'm happy to watch the clips. I actually
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: now search the clips now. So like that's just like
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: my personal progression with it. I'm not super interested in
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: it because I just, you know, have the sausages made.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: I already know what they're hiding and what they're exposing.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: So it's like I don't really care enough, but I'm
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: more interested in like the new people coming in, Like
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I'm friends of Jennifer, so like I'm just interested in
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: like how that's going for her. But other than that, like,
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: I'm just not I mean, you can't when you're in
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: this world, you can't avoid the clips. So I know
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: pretty much all the majors. Yeah, yeah, but I don't
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: the bullet point. Yeah, the bulletpoints.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about de Reed before we get into Atlanta
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Housewives and that explosive episode that is aired.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Are you team d read or not team dreat?
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I love?
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, so this is good to know where you start.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, So I'm gonna go back a little bit.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: When there first came on, they and when I say they,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: social media hated her, and I was the old I
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: feel like I was alone. I was the only one
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: that was like, this woman is a star because she's unfiltered,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: she's herself, she's she's like this cartoon character with like
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the the way she would read the girls, and she
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: would she looked pretty. And then I said this publicly,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I said, after her first season, I think she read
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: the comments and started to become a little safe, and
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't like that. This season, I felt my my girl,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Durrita's back. I'm being very transparent. Kyle Richards is my
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: favorite housewife. Okay, I love her so much, her and
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Kyle this season, I'm.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: Favorite from Beverly Hills, a favorite. Oh no, So okay,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: just break down each franchise. I want to know your
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: favorite from each franchise.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Actually Humble Bragg podcast to it, because this is what
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: you're going to get on the Humble podcast where ever
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. And they also have a YouTube
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: channel too that I watched and I'm subscribed to that too. Okay,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: oh my god, get a trouble, I'll go you.
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Im a minimum, apologize.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Getting nervous.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I apologize to sing at Mother Wolf. I apologize.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Did she respond?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Me and her had a good fifteen minute conversation.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, let's good.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I walked up to her and said I'm Carlos King
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: and she goes, yeah, yes, And I said, come here, girl.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I apologized to guard Cil at the Essence Festival, I
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: said King, and she goes and she accepted my party.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: So so on camera, when I watch us back, I'll
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: be like, you can't.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Be like oh no, she was like, she was like, well,
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: let me just tell you this to first of all,
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: when we get the request to be let me make
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: something very clear for the timeline because I know where
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: you're where. We're getting ready to go with this podcast.
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: This has been on our calendar for months. We've been
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: trying to do this podcast for months, and some of
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: the hot time, no no, I requested the bull of
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: It was always both of us.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Nobody mean wanting, but you know.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying, you know what.
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: So anyway, anyway, so when you when everyone out there
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: who's watching, they're gonna probably think some of the things
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: that we're talking about were like, oh, you know, so
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: that you just couldn't wait to come and talk about.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: These certain things on the podcasts.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: Was supposed to have done this one hundred different times
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: and it only worked out for this date this time.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: So there's that.
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: Thank you so much for inviting Humble Brag to the podcast.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: We are our new podcast and we're six months and
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: five months. Yeah, they'rey excited to sit down with you.
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: Well I was excited to sit down with you. And
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: then when I asked my co host, my beautiful co host,
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: Miss Crystal Kung Mikoff, if she would like for us
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: to go as a group because we were invited as
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: Humble Brag, and she said no, absolutely not.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my god.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: I was like why, She's like because he hates me.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: And I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, Carlos does
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: not hate you. He could not hate you. No, no,
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: he hates me. And I was like, okay, all right,
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: I know Carlos, So I'm gonna need you to just
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: trust me on this one.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: He does not hate you.
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: And if anything, you guys will be on the other
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: side of this, if you actually meet Carlos and sit
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: down with him, didn't I say that?
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, because once he meets me, he's gonna be obsessed.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: And I am and and but no, but thank you
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: for that because you know that.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Thank you for the birthday flowers as well. Oh no,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: beautiful birthday flowers.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: For fifteen years in real life, like yes, outside of
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: the show, like we're friends, right, yes, And I did
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: request humble brag. I said, similar to why what did
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: you want us on?
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: To be honest, I was.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Very honest and this is honest to god truth. When
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: my friends have something that I support or want to help,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I know my platform is huge and we have a
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: lot of listeners and all that stuff. So when I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: saw the humble brag, I was like, we're friends. Obviously
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't know Christal all the time. But if you
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: have something that I'm proud of, I want to use
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: my platform to make sure people are aware of it
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: and to really get to know you. Because one thing
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I'm able to do is extract the best out of people.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: And I felt that people needed to understand that a
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Crystal and Cynthia podcast actually extracted.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: The thug out of Crystal in the first ten minutes
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: and sitting down, Yes, come on, extraction, keep going.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: It's that that Tupac is Tupac Crystal. So I wanted
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: to support my friend. But you know, in real life,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: you know I do that anyway. But I wanted to
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: show the world that and I did this to Marlow
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: and Sonya, like I anytime my girls have something, I'm like,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: use me, what do you need from me? Yes, I
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: have a hit podcast, Like, if I can bring at
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: least one subscriber to it, then it's helpful, although I'm
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: bringing at least thirty thousands. But okay, thank you, but
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: thank you to for saying yes, and thank you Crystal
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: for for saying yes.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: She very much vouched for you, and I wouldn't do
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: this podcast, our podcast without someone that I trust and
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: love and think of as a sister, like I don't
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: need to waste my time doing it.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I do because I love it. I love Cynthia.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: And she is like, you have to go, you'll love him,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't believe you, but that's okay.
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: I trust in you, and honestly I come and obviously
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: very good faith, and I can. I knew I would
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: be fucking with you a little bit, but you know
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be here unless I felt otherwise.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and that's why I'm saying, I thank you
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: for that. And I don't take any of this for granted. Okay,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: So my favorite housewife from each franchise, Yes, am I
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: only I'm the only one who's gonna do this, Yes, yes, Okay, fine.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Enough to deal with when we guess.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not gonna say Atlanta though, because it's too
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: close to home. Okay, Okay, Beverly Hills is cow Richard.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Potomac.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: I already have them in my head. And what you're
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: gonna say, so go okay tell me?
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, Giselle Bryant.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Did Okay, go ahead, Okay, all right, Well, who else?
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Miami, Miami?
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Do you watch them all?
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: By the way, I do?
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, he is a super fan.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I do, Okay, I do Miami. It's a tie, honestly.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna have ties.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Larsa Alexi.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, you're gonna say Alex.
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So like, oh my gosh, wait, let me think
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: I think you're gonna be It's.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: A big, hard one.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: It's a hard one. It's a three weeks. It's three weeks.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this and I'm.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Being very but you can answer. Sorry.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: So for the other salt Lake, right, salt Lake City
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: to me is an all star cast. I'm obsessed with.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Mary Cosby has a special place.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's special.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: If I had to choose one, it'll be married. But
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I'm here for Hurricane Angie. I love me some Angie.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I love Bronwyn. Lisa Barlow is somebody in middle school
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: through college would have been my best friend. I love
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: a I love a feminine woman who is fabulous and
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: don't give a fuck that she is and is unapologetic,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: unapologetic about sitting and coach. I mean not one sitting
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: coach like a coach.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like that's feel.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Meredith. I really love all those girls. Okay, so I
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: love them all. But if I had to choose one
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: marriage Tamar Judge.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Okay, your you have a type.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: What's my type?
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Let him fish New York, old and New Old New
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: York and new and New New York.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: You gotta give to be I gotta give you gotta
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: give it a Bethany Franco, New York New Is there
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: anyone else were missing? I thought we covered all the
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: ground New Jersey, New Jersey.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I just spoke to Teresa yesterday. I do have that. Okay, Well,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: she's my friend to.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: Years. So Teresa July is from Jersey and Atlanta. Atlanta
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: is so special to me that you can't You can't
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: because there is.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: New York, New New York, the New New York.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: So one of the things that I wanted to talk about.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Really not one.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, do you do you do you think they should
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: not have done a toll?
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: You are to get is this is your opinion? I
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: don't like to get a phone calls.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: This is your opinion.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: No, the thing is this I this is my opinion,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: and it is what it is. I'm struggling with New York,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the New New York. I think, and I and I
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: and I mean this. I am loving Atlanta this season.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I am so Atlanta is back to being appointment television
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: because it's a soft reboot, right. You had Cynthia Bailey,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Kenya Moore, Portia Williams, Drew Sodora familiar faces, and the
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Shemia somebody we were used to as well, and then
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: you brought new girls Kelly Britt and Angela Uglely. I
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: love all these girls, and that's why I love it.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I'm being very honest. I'm struggling getting to know those
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: girls because and I'm just being honest, as I said,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: for the ten time, I feel like they're not living
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: up to their potential. Oh god, I feel like there's
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: so I feel like And this is why I'm glad
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: you're here. Based on what you said to me about
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: how awkward it could be for a newbie to come in,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: imagine seven newbies in this new social experiment. So based
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: on what you said, you help.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: I'm going to say that I always say this, if
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: they had eight of me on a show, you would
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: have no show. It wouldn't exist. Everyone be quiet, like
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: you need to have the people that really built it,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: to understand it, to kind of usher girls in. I
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: think Beverly Hills is a struggle because they really want
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: to keep there. They don't want usher new girls in.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: I think it's very hard on our show.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: But I bet Kyle's show.
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: Yes, it is Kyle's show for sure, but she's and
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: I always give her her flowers. I mean, she's I
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: used to watch Beverly Hills like she was the old
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: I think of her as, you know, like the queen
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: bee of like a sorority. So I always called her,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: you know, she's the house the den mother, the house mother.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: You know, she runs the show and as she should,
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: it's her show. Like I totally like and I really
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: tried to work, like to do what she wanted, even
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: though she would And.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: That's not to say she ever said that.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: It's just like I just could feel she ran the
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: show and so like you want to like, you know,
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: follow her, you know, but I also, like I said,
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: I felt uncomfortable because I also don't, like, I'm not
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: an actor.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to do that.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: So one thing Garcel said in the Part two reunion,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: she said that Kyle called her to say don't bring
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: up Morgan, and Garcel came on camera, I'm sorry, thank you,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: don't bring up Morgan on camera that.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Camera.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So off camera, Kyle called Garcel off camera
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: and told Garcel off camera, do not bring up Morgan,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: and Garcel said on the Reunion Part two when she
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: she said that, I felt like she was trying to
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: un parapraise it but pretty much controlled the narrative and
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: wanted to let me know, like this is off limits. Yes,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: is that something that Kyle does.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: No, because that's a general say that she does that.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: That's a very specific situation. Like she's never said to me,
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: don't say this thing. So that's ever happened to me. So,
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: but that's what I'm saying. It's like it's for me.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: It was never a direct thing when I say it's
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: Kyle's show. That's how I felt walking in.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: That was never told me.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: I would know and I would say that like Renna
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: said that, like this like this is Kusha when we
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: started it, like when I started filming, but she said it.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: I believe Renna told me that in a positive way.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: It wasn't like bow down. It was just like she's she's.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Been here for fourteen years, like you know, like and
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: she's doing it well.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: So this is how we you know, it's kind of
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: how we thought about Nini on Alta.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Just about to ask you, so, Cynthia, did you did
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: y'all feel that way about Nini?
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: I did? Absolutely?
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, And I came in with Nini, which I
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: was like grateful for in a lot of ways because
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: the path. Yeah, I'm under her wing at this point,
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: so she's not even looking for me because I'm underneath her.
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: Yes, And I think I also felt that way about
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: Kyle immediately because Teddy brought me on and they were
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: best friends. So I always I kind of felt like
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: one step closer to her, just that like oh because
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: Teddy wanted me on the show, like and that, you know,
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: like like follow her, follow her footsteps kind of feeling,
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: you know. But no, she never I was never said
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: anything like that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Do you think Renna should come back to Beverly Hill?
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: Damn girl?
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I love her? Yes? Over here, I love her. I
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: love Renna. I listen. I also gave her a hard time.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I'm like, when she said I'm in love Rod James,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Renda, I love you, but you're not even
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: the Rick James because of me. That's fun, but Crystal,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: that's like fun Shay to be right, I'm aware that
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: sometimes people can take that like I'm surely saur Renna
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: may have been like m but but I did say
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that I lovely Serena. Listen my type, as Crystal can
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: see based on my favorites from each franchise. Although I
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: love all the girls like a I like a strong woman.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I like an outspoken woman. I like a woman who
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: The reason why me and her work so well together
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: is she symth it will fight me tooth and nail. Crystal,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it. What's going off
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: with me and Peter today, you know, But I was like,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: this is something you're going through. It's relatable. You're going
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: through it, it happened to you. Let's talk about it.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Because I always said to her, you're here for a reason,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and my job as a producer is just to bring
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: out the best in you. So my intentions as a
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: producer are always to look at my girls and say
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: to each one of them, I know the specialists inside
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: of each of you. The way I produce Cynthia is
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: extremely different than Mey though I produce Nini the way
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I produce Porcha, like I'm able to bring out the
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: best to them. And when I look at Beverly Hills,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: especially Part two reunion, listen, I think Sutton is struggling because,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: in my opinion and your friends with Sutton, Cynthia, and
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I would love to get your opinion to Crystal, Sutton
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: struggled this reunion. She literally did not say two words.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: And I think it's because on camera this season she
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: was my favorite hearing to read this season because I
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: felt like the Sutton that I knew had it in
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: her was that person. When she made the comment about
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: my wallet is bigger, listen, it's not the most PC
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: comment in the world. Carlos Regido King, I became a
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: slut in Crystal based off that comment because I.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Said, I know you was gonna shake the table and
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: That's how you feel. Then this Cynthia Crystal in her interview,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: she doubled down on an actet. I do regret it, yeah,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: but then after reunion I should not have said that.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not like because your glam team and your PR
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: people said, you know, like be u, So I feel
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: like that's who Sutton really is. I've liked Sutton and
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: this is my opinion. I think Sutton is a very
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: wealthy woman who likes to be around other wealthy women.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I feel like some people may say that's a social climber.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I think she is, and I don't think that's wrong.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: I just think that she it's like like like's like, like,
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: you know, it's just what she's comfortable. It's just she's
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: a lot of money, and so she does things that
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: take a lot of money. So, you know, I would
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: say it's like lifestyle is a big thing in the marriage.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: Like love is important all this, but like lifestyle, like
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: you ought to match up with people, and I think that,
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: you know, she does.
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: If I don't know, that's all I have to say,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna I was like, it's gonna go bad.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: I but why.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: I think she She's surrounded by people that are like her.
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: Not a bad thing is that I'm sure people are
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: like me.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: So people are like me. People think I'm too much,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I talk too much or whatever. I'm like, be my friends.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Rain like we like to talk.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Child. We are just getting started. This is reality with
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the King, and I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: the show. But I miss Sutton standing on her ship.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: And that's the reason why to read one in the
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: perception of the audience, because we were like, she's now
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: showing people she smoked cigarettes. She's now, like, you know,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: being who she was her first season. So when you
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: look at what Sutton is is bringing to the show,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: are we watching the real side?
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: I think doesn't know how to not be herself, and
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: I think that's what makes her a great housewife. She
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: does not know how to rein it in. She tries
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: and she obviously I think, based on you said, a
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: good job on the reunion like quiet, but like other
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: than that, she really is. She's very reactive and she
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: feels the way she feels, and she it's hard to
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: control that in her well.
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: I thought it was really interesting watching I didn't follow
• 44:26
  Speaker 5: the whole season. I would see clips, and from watching
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: the reunion for the first time, I saw a sudden
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: that seemed like she almost didn't fit in and was
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: really really trying to fit in, and it was like
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: beyond it kind of felt like her friendship with Garcell
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: just didn't seem like it was enough, like she wanted something,
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: she needed validation from some of the other women in
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: some way she.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: Need a validation from Kyle.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: From Kyle, well, yeah, we can say basically Kyle, but
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: I think she actually likes to read and and you
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: don't think she likes to eat now, I think and
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: Erica Jane, I mean, I felt.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Like it almost took from my perspective.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: I think that she's always wanted them to she wants
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: them to like her say something.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: But she said something on that trip they were in
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: Saint Lucia. She said something about that I want to
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: be one of the barbies. So I'm assuming the barbies.
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: Who are the barbies?
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: How in Erica?
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: But I say that because that's my personality. I am
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: a people pleaser. I want people to like me. I
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: want everybody working on it. Aquarius Marlowe And yeah, I
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: like I want everyone to like me, And so I
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: don't think that's a bad thing. So I think it's
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: like it's with someone who's really reactive, a lot of
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: strong opinions and then you give them out and then
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: but you want people to like you. It's like you're
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: trying to It's she that's that's her internal struggle, right,
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Like I feel this way, but also like you know,
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: she still wants to be liked and I get that too,
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: so like I I understand that personality, like very deeply.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: I'm not a super reactive person and I don't show
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: that I want people to live, but I know how
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: that feels.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: That's all.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I would love to see you back on the show
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: because listen, I this my opinion. I think it's nice
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: when a housewife has a season or two off. I
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: think you have to sometimes miss it to love it
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: again or to or to sit back and be like
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: got it. I know, I know you don't desire to
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: go back, right, but I think what you brought to
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the show was a young woman who had an opinion
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: and was not afraid to express it. And I was
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: very hard on you like a mother or a father
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: is to their child. Like I know your potential. I
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: know you can get the age or whatever.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: I know when you said that, yeah, and and and
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: and listen, I was.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Pleasantly surprised when I discovered, based on you saying it,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: in fact, that you have a multi like bazillion dollar company.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I'm my excuse, like humbly brag about this business.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I co founded a coconut water company called real
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Coco thirteen years ago. Yeah, and it's I was very
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: protective of the brand and you know, we were dabbling
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: and exposing it or not. You know, I have investments
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: and you know, investors and stuff like that. But yeah,
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: that's like my real life. So it's really hard because
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: it's like show more of your life and I wanted
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: to because that's my career, and then I couldn't. So
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: it was like that's another part that made me feel
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: sort of stunted because I'm like, Okay, now I got
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: to like exploit this part of my life because this
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: part won't be seen, you know, so it's like you
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: have to embellish this part.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, what if you just show me the
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: whole thing? Is that? Is that enough?
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: But yes, I am a business person, I'm a mom.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I do a lot of things and yourself made. Yes.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, this is my company with my brother and my
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: best friend is a very.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Billion dollar company.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: No it's not.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: It's a multi million.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Dollars right we yeah?
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Can I can I?
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Can I be a part of your friend group you
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: want to be a part of you lost fifteen friends?
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Can I replace at least one?
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: And let me tell you, honey, they're all coming back.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, yes, no.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: Speaking of friendship, Cynthia, you have been in the press
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: all week based on the latest episode of the Real
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Housewives of Atlanta. Atlanta Housewives is fucking back, I am.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to cry get choked up. I'm so
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: proud of you girls in terms of the production company
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: and the network and everyone involved. Is I'm hard on
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: that show too, Yeah, I know, I'm very It is
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: so good. I'm very hard on Atlanta for obviously, right.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I Every week, I'm like, it gets better and better
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: and better and better, and it's so good. We saw
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: this most recent episode that aired. It will go down
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: in history, in my opinion as somebody who worked nine
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: seasons as the most controversial episode in the history of
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Atlanta Housewise. Right, your friend Kenya Moore had a hair
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: salont event and her and bra Edie had a back
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: and forth long story short. Some images were displayed. You
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: happened to be there? Yes, Can you take us back
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: to that moment where I mean you were actually there
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: and I was privy to the organic friendship that you
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: and Kinga developed. And you are somebody who struggled with
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: having a falling out with a friend. Nini leaks on
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: the show. When you saw images that Kenya displayed, what
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: was your initial reaction to that.
• 50:06
  Speaker 5: I was shocked, not because of what was happening. I
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: was shocked because of how it was put together, Like
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: I always you know, Kenya, as I've said all week,
• 50:25
  Speaker 5: and by the way, this is the last time I'm
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: talking about this because it's you know, social media looks
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: at it like I just want to do interviews all
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: day about this, and really the last thing I want
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: to do is talk about that particular episode.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna talk about it one more time.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: And I feel comfortable talking to you about it because
• 50:43
  Speaker 5: you know Kenya and you know me, and you know
• 50:45
  Speaker 5: our relationship, and you know the show and you know
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: how this thing works.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: So what I saw was, I figure, it's not a
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: surprise that ken you would do something.
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: I just don't think number one, she would do anything
• 50:55
  Speaker 5: at the salon because I really thought it was just
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: really that's where the focus was that day. But did
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: I think she was going to get a look back
• 51:01
  Speaker 5: or do something at some point? Yeah, But I know
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: how smart and strategic she is, so I figured whatever
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: it was, it was going to be something that would
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: not hurt her, and I felt like what she did.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: You know, it was humiliating for brit but it ultimately
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: hurt Kenya to do it, and that's what I was
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: confused about her not making a better decision to how
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: she wanted to respond, because I'm never gonna invalidate Kenya's feelings.
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: And it's very interesting that I would be the person
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: put in the hot seat to even speak on this
• 51:39
  Speaker 5: because I actually was the only one that wasn't at
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: the bank for Angela's things, so I didn't see the
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: whole brit side. I can only really speak to I
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: saw it with everyone else on I didn't see it
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: in person, is what I'm saying, and it's very different,
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: like you guys see a very edited clip version of
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: what the bottom line is what happened.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: But had I been in person, I could have seen
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: the build up.
• 51:59
  Speaker 5: I could have just had a little bit more perspective,
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: just in terms of like what actually happened to even
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: get Brittain in that parking lot to even talk about
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: a gun, and I was not privy to that. And
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: for whatever reason, people keep forgetting us this week they're
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: forgetting that I'm not a housewife. I'm a friend of
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: the show, so I'm not always around these girls. I'm
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: not in a lot of those different scenes with these
• 52:18
  Speaker 5: girls are building their relationships.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: I think because the audience trusts you, they want to
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: know your opinion. But I think what was a disservice
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: is that you weren't there for the size. Yeah, and
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: so's her only perspective. And I think, and actually, that's
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: my question for you. And I don't want to interrup
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: because I want to keep going. But like, as a producer,
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: would why would Cynthia be the you know, like, why
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: would her opinion be the most important if she wasn't
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: there for both sides when everyone else was.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: I'm very curious about that as a producer.
• 52:46
  Speaker 5: But keep going, Sorry, all right, And I think I
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: might have an answer for that. But in any case,
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: I stand on the fact that I don't think this
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: was Kenya's best moment. I think that again, I would
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: never invalidate her feelings. Whatever she was feeling. She's entitled
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: to her feelings, she's entitled to her get back, her
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: lick back, all of the things. I just wish she
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: had thought it out a little bit more because it
• 53:12
  Speaker 5: really like nobody left there talking about kennymore haircare.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: They only talked about what happened that in that moment.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and to I'm gonna follow you. But to answer
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Crystal's question, I agree with you. I think the audience
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: looks at Cynthia Belly as somebody that can trust in
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: terms of like her history on the show, as being
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: somebody who had to have uncomfortable conversations and really struggled
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: with not making struggles conversations ruined the friendship. Because what
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: people don't know is this, on these reality shows, when
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: you have a real conversation on camera, oftentimes I'm not
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: saying that they all work this way. Oftentimes the person
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: on the receiving end of the critique can feel like
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: you're attacking me in front of the audience or they
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: or the other side is what, bitch, you could have
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: said that to me on camera, like why tell me
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: on camera and embarrassed me. That's how some people may thought.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying how king it felt at all. I'm
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: just saying to answer your question asks why the audience,
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not.
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: To interrupt you, but I don't want to forget one
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: of the comments that I read was because I was like, Okay,
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: let me let me see.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: You know, the block is.
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: Hot right now, let me see what's going on, let
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: me see what the temperature is. And the Lord put
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: me on the flight to LA So literally, when the
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: show was on, I was on a plane headed here
• 54:34
  Speaker 5: to do this and a number of other things that
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: we have going on. And when I did the plan,
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: the plane didn't have Wi Fi or nothing. When I
• 54:40
  Speaker 5: said the Lord would not let me see what was
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: going I was just like, let me just see what
• 54:43
  Speaker 5: they're saying on social media. Could not do it, could
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: not didn't know anything until I landed. But when I
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: tell you, I was dying, Carlos.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: I was dying.
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: But when I did get on there, what I did
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: see was people saying, oh, well, you know, if you
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: were her friend, you wouldn't have like checked her in
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: that moment. You would have told her privately. Now, Carlos,
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: you know damn well. Had I did it privately off camera?
• 55:05
  Speaker 5: First of all, that doesn't even count because if the
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: fans don't see it, in their mind, it didn't happen.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: It never happened. So I'm not an idiot. I've been
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: on the show for a long time, well over a decade,
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: so I know the off camera thing doesn't really work. Okay,
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: it happened in the moment. If it happens on camera,
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: it's I say it on camera, and that's that's a
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: lesson that I will tell any new housewife, say that
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: shit on camera. If it happens on camera. Don't go
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: for the old banana the tail pipe. We keep saying it,
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: which I don't even know what the banana pipe means.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: For the banana. Don't go for the peach in the
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: tail pipe. But do you think.
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: Do you think had I did it off camera and
• 55:47
  Speaker 5: after the event, when it all came to a head
• 55:51
  Speaker 5: to a head, do you think the fans then would
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: have said, oh well, if you were real friends, you
• 55:55
  Speaker 5: would have said it in the moment. You would have
• 55:57
  Speaker 5: told a real friend it was like I could win
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: for losing.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: And that's why you have to do in the moment
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: what works for you so that you can always stand
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: behind it. And I know you, on a personal level
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: and a professional level, your intention is to never try
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: to embarrass somebody on purpose on camera. You've never been that.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: I don't want no smoke. I don't hear it.
• 56:22
  Speaker 5: Like I was sitting there, like literally watching this whole
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: thing go down, Like, is there a way I can
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: just somehow become invisible and slide them by here, I
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: slide into these flowers and not ever have to really
• 56:36
  Speaker 5: deal with this because you know, I hate confrontation. One
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: of the most uncomfortable things you can do on a
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: platform like this is have to have go again somebody
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: that you're actually friends with, Like it's it's okay to
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: go against the ones that you actually don't have any
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: emotional attachment to, you know what I'm saying. But like,
• 56:50
  Speaker 5: Kenya is someone I don't want to see this girl lose.
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: I don't and Kenya and I've had our ups and
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: downs because I saw that came up as well, you know.
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: Oh well, you know they ain't been haven't been the
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: same since the Girl's Trip and we didn't talk for
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: two years after the Girls Trip.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Wait wait, hold on, okay, so okay, wait, because Claudia
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Jordan said on my on my Monday night live YouTube,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: did you did you see it?
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: I did?
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, I did? And you okay, so let me just
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: update you.
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: No, No, I just wanted to just what and what
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: Claudia's I didn't have an issue with what Claudia said
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: because Claudia has her own relationship with Kenya. She has
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: a relationship with me, you know, but we don't we
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: don't talk, you know. I never called Claudia and say, hey,
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: let me tell you about what's going on me and Kenya. Now,
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: if she calls me and say, hey, what happened with whatever,
• 57:33
  Speaker 5: I feel comfortable saying hey, this is what happened, and
• 57:37
  Speaker 5: then she can call Kenya afton, can you tell her
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: this is what happened. We did not talk for a
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: very long time after that that trip, which gave me
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: one time and space to to move on to like
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: heal whatever we were going through.
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: And that was really important for me.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: Uh and I think for her as well, because I
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: will say in Kingya's defense, you know, I was the
• 58:01
  Speaker 5: one that I didn't want like I needed a minute
• 58:04
  Speaker 5: because I did not feel like I was protected as
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: a friend in that situation. And I don't even want
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: to get into.
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: The Girl's trip. I literally didn't even watch it because
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: I was so hurt by that whole trip because.
• 58:17
  Speaker 5: I'm not oh, it was like a whole thing. But anyway,
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: and out of respect for my relationship with King. I'm
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: not gonna say too much, but I will say we
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: went through we took the time and the space away
• 58:29
  Speaker 5: from each other off camera. So when I decided, and
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: it was right around the time that I actually ran
• 58:36
  Speaker 5: into Kenya in person, because I had literally didn't even
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: see her anymore, because at that point, I wasn't even
• 58:40
  Speaker 5: shooting on the show, and if you're not shooting on
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: the show with me, we really actually don't have to
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: see him unless you choose to see him at that point,
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: because you don't work with him anymore. And I actually
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: ran into her at Teresa's Judice's wedding, and you were
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: you there.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I was invited, not you weren't advised raised apologize that
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: she forgot oh my, just like, okay, don't even get
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: me sorry, so to like send it.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, were you mad at her? And how
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: long were you mad at her? Because you and I
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: had a whole thing about that. You were not no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: oh my god, you was mad at me.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: You were mad at me.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: And I felt literally, Crystal.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: I literally was like, I need to find somebody and
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: get married again. So that not only you can be there,
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: but I need him to be horrible and we talked.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: I'm kicked out.
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: I apologized.
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: I was like, you did, like if I have one
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: regret about well, I got a lot of regrets about
• 59:34
  Speaker 5: when As you can see, it didn't work out okay,
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: But I try not have to live my life with regrets.
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: But I will say, you not being there, and it
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: literally I promise on everything. You know, I love Noel
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: for Robinson. When I tell you, I just forgot. I
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: don't know how I promised. You know, I would not
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: throw my child in this. You not being there is
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: my one regret.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: You're sweet and what I said to her, and I said,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: this se too right. I said, obviously when you because
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: I wear my heart, my sate when it comes to
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: my girls. Yes, and one thing about my girls is
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: we go through and we have our moments. Me and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: her had like a moment once and I laughed the
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: whole time because when she read me, I was like,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I love you so much because it was the reason.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: It's everything.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to but I know, but that's why
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: I was everything. When I pop out, Yeah, it's I.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Was here for it. But what I said to her is,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: and this is she said this to me, and Teresa
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: said this to me, and I said this back to them.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: They both said, it's literally like an out of sight,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: out of mind situationatly like it wasn't.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: No, it's so true. No, I'm so glad she said
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: that because people entered at my wedding litter because they
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: texted me that week and I was like, oh, yeah, hey,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: you know what, somebody can't come, you.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: Know, because it was during COVID, so a lot of
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: people come. I was like, you know, I have a
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: couple of seats. I was looking for people to come
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 5: at that point.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: Can't come because it was it was you know, we
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: did it during cold Yeah, so when I tell you
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: the way, you would have been on the list. But anyway,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: but it was true. I just hadn't talked to.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: You, and I said, and I said this, like I said,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: my friendship is not predicated on a wedding invite. I'm
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: not that person. I know what's real in real life
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: versus what maybe real in terms of like social media
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: and like the world. Like I know me and my
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: sister and I know that. With Teresa, and going back
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: to you and Kenya, I did we Ultimate Girls trip.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: You're right, we didn't see everything, and I don't want to.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: I don't want you to have to deal with anything
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: that can cause it.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: No, I don't want to start an.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: I want to leave that alone. What I will like
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: for you to address if we comfortable, is Kenya did
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: retweet a moment Ninni Leeks talked about you going where
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: the wind blows when it comes to friendships, and you
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: know again I'm paraphrasing, but pretty much not being everyone's friend.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry being everybody's friend, not standing for your true friend.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: When you saw Kenya retweet that, did that hurt your feelings?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Of course? Of course?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: I mean, like I said, I haven't spoken to her
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: since the whole incident happened, but not because I haven't,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: you know, reached out to her. I reached out to
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: her during that time, but at this point and the friendship,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 5: we've had her ups and downs. I respect people's space
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: and their time. I'm not getting ready to run Kenya
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: down to like try to make any kind of miens
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: with her, because I didn't do anything to Kenya. I
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: just came to the Salon opening to support her, and
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 5: I was disappointed in how she handled the situation, because
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: again I literally was just getting I had maybe shot
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: with been in a group situation where Britt twice. I
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: didn't know Britt, so I wasn't emotionally invested. I could
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: care less how she had. I wasn't concerned with protecting
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: Brit because I didn't know her. And again, as a
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: friend of the show, the filming that they were did,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: I wasn't even around them that much at that point,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 5: but I knew Kenya and that's why I said to
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: I know you, I wasn't there. I'm not saying that
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: what she did, and I've said one hundred and fifty
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: five times what Britt did was wrong. She should have
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 5: never brought up a gun. Nobody's gonna sit here and
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: say that the woman was not wrong. Absolutely, she should
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: never bring it up, whether whatever her intentions were or
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: whatever her intentions were not, she shouldn't have brought it
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: the gun. And what I also think is interesting is
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 5: that I am the only one that said anything to
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: her in that moment, but all the ladies walked out
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: and she doesn't seem to have an issue with them.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: I think she still speaks to whoever she feels like
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: speaking to with.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: The rest of the cast that clearly didn't support it,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: clearly thought it was you know, beneath her or whatever
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: their own terminology is.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: I feel like I still have seen her with some
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: of those ladies. I sat right there and watched those
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: same ladies in her interviews and say how they felt
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: about the situation. So I don't know if she's you know,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: upset with them now. I don't know why all of
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 5: a sudden because she made the decision that she made
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: that it's a thing between ken and I, regardless of
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: what happened on Girls Trip, however long it took us
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: to get back.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: If King and I were the best of friends.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: Me be very clear when I say this, I would
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: have still had the same reaction if Kenya and I
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: had never fallen out in our lives, I would have
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: still had the same reaction at the salon. I was
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: disappointed and my friend I did not want I see. Oh,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: you know how long I've been here about Kenny Moore Haircare.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: You know how much blood, sweating tears that woman is
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: put in trying to put that vision together for herself
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: and for Brooklyn, and to see it be overshadowed by
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: something that she could have got Britt Wade down the line.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: King has been doing this for a long time. She
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: could have got brit we were headed to Jacksonville, Grenada.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: She could have got Rid another day, you know. So
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: it just is upsetting that people are so focused on
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: stuff that doesn't even make sense at this point, like
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: and then even bringing Nini into it. I'm at a
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: great place with Nini. I just talked to Ninie a
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: couple of weeks ago. She asked me to do her
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: her YouTube show. Like I don't have no problem with Nini,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: and I don't have a problem with Kenya. But if
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 5: I can't have if Crystal does something that I think
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: is beneath her, that is the florable and I can't
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 5: hold her accountable and tell her that. That's how I
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: feel that I don't want to be friends with Crystal
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: or anybody else. Are the same for you, Carlos, if
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: I see you, if I read about something to hear
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: about something like, Carlos, that's not it, that's not you.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: And if you cut me off because I'm holding you
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: to a certain standard, to a certain level of class,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: just to a certain level of decency, then fuck.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Off, I will say. Not going to detail, I will
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: say you and Peter definitely have taken me aside.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 5: One thousand per what be doing, and that was coming
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: from love and protection, and those those moments never left
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: my mouth. I know, Peter knows, and you know, and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: that's coming from love and protection. I love my friends.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 5: I don't want to ever have to go against my friends.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 5: This shit is not fun for me to be like, oh,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: you think I want to sit there and put on
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: my cute outfit in my head, I had to sit
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: on watch my apps like and talk about you know
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 5: what happened in that situation.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: I want to go back to my hot boyfriend back
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: at Lick Bailey. I want to lay on the phone
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: and key key with Noel. That's what I want to do,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: and that's the reason why I came back as a friend.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: I don't want any of that druma especially but it
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: ain't even about me, Like I literally called Australa, why
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: isn't anybody else in the hot seat?
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Like, why isn't you're just she met at anybody else?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: You're a legendary staple to the show. And I think
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: is what Crystal said. I think, listen, you're a legendary
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: stable to the show. You've been on the Sheol since
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: season three.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Interesting is I still go back to say this. You
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: were called boring and all these things and all the.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: Things flip flopping. Oh, let me go back to flip flopper.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: Let me go back to flip flopper because that's a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: trigger for me. Okay, So only and you know, I've
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: had a very extensive career. You guys have gotten to
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: know Cynthia the model, Cynthia the reality stars, Cynthia now
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: the act Cynthia Podcaster, Cynthia to Mom, like all of
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: the things only in this circle of friends. And I
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: have friends like CEOs, I have very very high level
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: friendships that I've made over the years. To be very
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: very clear, only on this platform and this group of
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: women have I ever in my life been called a
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: flip flopper.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know what it was. I was like,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: wait what.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 5: And it's just so sad that you can be with
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: all the stuff that I do, all the things that
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: I have, so many amazing things going on, that your
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: character can be measured by literally a group of women
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: that you all place with that you really built friendships
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: with but really don't even are still getting.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: To know you in a lot of ways. It's very
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: sad to watch and then for our own people.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: And I'm talking about black folks because none of my
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: white friends called me flip flopper.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: They actually lived.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: Now my Chinese friends.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: On social media, for us to just be so excited
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 5: to attack each other is just really sad. I ain't
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: said everybody got to like me, but Lord, have mercy.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: Can you just measure the like? Measure like I'm with
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: everything that I do. I am Cynthia Bailey. This is
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: what y'all running with. She's not a villain.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: Can't nobody I you? I mean, if I hear oh Cynthia,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: She's great. She's beautiful inside it out, like I get
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: a lot of love. And the only thing that people
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 5: can say about me on this show, and this is
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 5: this is the Housewives of Atlanta. As Porsche would say,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: these girls have done a lot before the show, during
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 5: the show, and we're going to do many things after
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 5: the show, And the only thing that you can say
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 5: about me is I'm boring and a flip flopper.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll take.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: It, take it I want to get your POV on Atlanta,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: the most controversial episode that we've seen. What are your
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: thoughts based on what happened, what Kingy and Britt did
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: to each other.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 4: We actually talked about it because I kind of questioned
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: because I said, based on what I was shown, I
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: was like, brit did something terrible too, So I was
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: actually confused.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: I'm like, why would they Why would the network.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: Get rid of Kenya and actually show the brit side,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: Because I said, I said, the audience is going to
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: feel very divided, right, like yeah, So, like it was
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: just for me, it was more because I think now
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: I kind of watch things a little differently. I'm trying
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: to like look behind, you know, really kind of peer
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: through the glass, and so like I'm like, why would
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: they show it all and then just get rid of
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: Kenny because they're going to get a lot of heat
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: the network of Like, it didn't make sense to me.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: So for me, it was more of just calling her,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: like what really happened. She's like, well, I really wasn't
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: even there and we saw the one side. I'm only
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 4: going to hold my actual friend accountable, you know. So
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: we kind of had similar conversation, but I just I
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: think it would have been I was thinking about this
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: while you were talking about, you know, how you felt
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: about the Kenya, Like what happened was like it would
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: have been such a great moment to watch Cynthia and
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: Kenya have a sit down after it happened, holding her
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: accountable in a real friendship, like this is real.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: Stuff to be able to continue to film, to film together.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 5: And I think what was so confusing for the audience
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: was two people made mistakes.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: Two people fucked up. Let's just call a thing a thing.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 5: One got punished, got punished, and one did not. Now
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying the crimes were equal on any level.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: It was two different situations. And I think by not, well,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: I do believe I have a theory.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: I think that.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 5: Something, you know, whatever they want to do, I don't know,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: like you know, you want to hurt, you want to
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 5: get to me, get my pockets and be like, okay,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 5: you can't film for two weeks, so whatever it is, Like,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't work for the work, and
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: I'm in no way trying to figure out, you know,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: why they did whatever whatever, because we like you said,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: I think I heard you said, I heard you say
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: that on your show. We don't have no control over
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 5: what the networks make. If the network makes a decision,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 5: it has nothing.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: To do with us.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: We could have been on the picking lines and we
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: won't get you back. And if they say it's not happening,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: then it's just not happening. And nor are we even
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: trying to put us up in a position to even like,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 5: who wants to fight with their boss, like, especially if
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: they didn't, they're not if it's not for themselves, if
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: nothing else, you know what I'm saying. But it was
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: very clear that I think anyone a blind person could
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 5: see that losing Kenya was didn't help us as a
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: cast to keep shooting a show. Kenya was definitely as
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 5: asset to this cast and to the show in many
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 5: many ways. And if you guys are love in season sixteen,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: now imagine had she stayed, you know what I mean?
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: It would have been even better in so many ways.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: And you know, the season started out with Angela and
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: Shamilah getting in to it not liking each other, and
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: Kelly and Portia and not liking each other. But guess
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 5: what they were able they had time to get on
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 5: the other side of it because they were allowed to
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: still be there and film, and I really believe had
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 5: Kenya still been there, had they tried to figure out
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 5: a way to make it work those laves, I think Britt,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 5: you know, whether you like Britt or not, I really
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 5: feel like she and Kenya would have got on the
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: other side of it the same way should me and
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 5: Angela did. I ain't saying they would have been the
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 5: best of friends, but they would have been able to
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 5: still work together.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it just felt abrupt to me in a way
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 4: that like the story is not finished and it could
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: have been finished, or don't show any of it, you know,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: and like the I don't know, or just cut Kenne
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: out completely.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know. It just didn't make any sense to me.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 5: Because I feel like they had to show they had
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 5: I felt like they had to show what happened in
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 5: the parking lot because everybody's gonna be like, because we've
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: been talking about this for like a year. We shot
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: all of this so long ago. I'm actually struggling to
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 5: remember a lot of the stuff. But if Kenya Moore
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: is no longer shooting on the show, well, then of
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 5: course the fanis gonna be like, well, what the hell
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 5: happened at the bank. It was a totally had to
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 5: show that, and I felt like they what they showed
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: was a very clear depiction of what happened.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: It didn't feel edited, It.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: Felt like continue, Yeah, personal, I think we all was right.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Listen, I will say this. I applaud the network for
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: showing both sides.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Yes and a lot, and I thought they were very
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: fair about that, very fair.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: About it and allowing the audience to see both sides
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: and you guys can see what happened and again, whether
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: or not you agree with the decision of Kenya is
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: what I said. As a producer of creative shows, I
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: am beholden to the network like the production companies, the producers.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: We don't have a say in hiring and firing. We
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: can make suggestions, yes, but ultimately, the way it works
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: in television is it's a networks. Is their decision and
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: you have to recept their decision. And that's just what
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: is going to be. In King's defense, she has apologized
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: for her action. She has admitted admitted it was wrong,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: and my hope is that she will be given the
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: opportunity to be seen again and express herself. I would
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: love to see her and Britt have a conversation about it,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: to really listen. Maybe there's room for a reconciliation of
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: an understanding they weren't friends.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: Hopefully she can come to the reunion.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 5: I think Kenya should absolutely be at the reunion, And
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: I also, to be honest, felt like until she left,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 5: she should have been allowed to do confessionals.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: I felt like that was missing.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 5: I felt like when you pluck somebody out of the situation,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: I felt like, Okay, they gotta go. It just felt
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: really unbalanced to go in the way that it that
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 5: she went. In a lot of ways, I felt like,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 5: you know, when you look at the show as good
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 5: as it is, those confessionals are missing. And I don't
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: even know how like that would it would have even
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: been for Kenya to do it knowing that she was
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 5: gonna leave. Maybe she wouldn't even have wanted to do them,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 5: because it's like it's a different mindset when you are
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: walking away from something, you know what I'm saying. So
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: I think that would have been very difficult for her.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: But I feel like maybe it should have could have
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 5: been an option.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: I would have liked to sit down with her and
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: someone just hear her perspective, and like you said, with
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: her and Britt, I think that would have given me.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: That's what That's what everybody was missing.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 5: And I really feel like, you know, I have my
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 5: own relationship with Britt and I've only had a great
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 5: I've only had a good experience with all the ladies.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 5: Britt included. I don't have an issue with her. If
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 5: I did, then I wouldn't like her either, you know
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: what I mean. But I actually don't like She's you know,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 5: been very nice to me and I think she's a
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 5: great addition to the show as well.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: And I was going to say one more thing about
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: about the reunion. What was I going to say? I
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: don't know to come back to me, but.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: You you would like to say Kenya at the reunion
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: absolutely Britt talk about.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 5: Oh that's what I was going to say. I think,
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 5: And I said this on Watch What Happens Live. The
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 5: network's vision for season sixteen, straight up and down, was
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 5: they they took their time putting this group together. They
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 5: really wanted to see us win with the cast that
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: they put together, which Kenya Moore was very much a
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: part of.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: That cast, And it's just crazy for this to happen.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: For them not to see it play out with the
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 5: original team that was put together. And I also used
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: the analogy of you know, it was like we had
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 5: like in my thing, dream team, I got to come
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 5: over with you a little friend and pop in and
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 5: check on everyone.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Between all the things that I have going on. We'd
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: get to the.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl and lose one of our most valuable players.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 5: We were like, okay, well now we still gotta play
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: the game. It's like we gonna quit our jobs. Now
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 5: we still got to work.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: But it's a good analogy.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: It's a great like we literally lost one.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 5: I mean, the girl is one of the Like it's
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: like when I always I always say, you know, speaking
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 5: to Edia again anytime someone interviewed me about anything housewives,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: because they's name is always gonna come up. And of course,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 5: you know, when we weren't talking, I did not enjoy
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 5: her name always coming up because for social media, it's like, oh,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 5: you can't do anything not bringing Ninia. But I'll tell
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: you the way, why would I bring up people who
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 5: can't stand me. I woke up this morning and be like, oh,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: let me go do an interview and bring up Needi.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 5: So like, yeah, I was bringing up Nini child. These
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 5: people asking us these questions, questions that we don't want
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: to be asked, Okay, but when I'm asked those questions.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 5: One of the things I always say, and I've always said,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: when you think of the Royal Housewives of Atlanta, you
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: think any leaks, she was one of the best to
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 5: ever do it. She was, yes, and that is just
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 5: the truth. And I feel I hold Kenya in that
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 5: same regard. That's so many moments I remember being an
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 5: Anguilla Gune with the wind, fabulous moment and her twirling
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 5: all this stuff, like there was like some of the
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 5: stuff I actually was watching season six, I actually forgot,
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 5: Like I actually sat back and watched as a fan,
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: and like literally literally I could not even believe the
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: way we what We didn't even know the magic that
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 5: we had. Portia and Cordell, Peter and I had invited
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 5: them to come down. Guilla King is in the pool
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 5: with Apollo Fedra's mad King is swirling like.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: But I was like, I got it.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 5: I was like, because when you're in it, it's so
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 5: hard to enjoy it. I'm not saying I don't like
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 5: my job, but I'm not saying it's the funnest job,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. It's not the easiest job.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 5: It's very stressful. So it's easy to sit on the
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 5: couch with you popcorn and your margerite and go like, oh, well,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: you know, I can't believe something did that.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: If I was there, I would have did the honey.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: If he was over here, you wouldn't know what to
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: do with yourself.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: I could not survive or day. And he's not a producer.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: Just so you know too, Listen, I love what I do.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: I thank God that I'm able to do this and
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: do other things too. Being in the field producing these shows,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: as for producers, is not fun. It can be fun,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: Like there were moments where you know, and I'm sure
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: your producers like this too, and Mike cat you SOI
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  Speaker 1: love this Crystal when they used to film and it
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  Speaker 1: was funny and I would laugh and they hear me laugh.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: They felt like, if Carlos enjoys this scene the audience,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: that means we're good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: When you guys come in, it's like it's like, oh shit,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: Dad's here, and Dad's fucking yes.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: But that's the reason why. Look, I will say this
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: and I want to end by saying this, being a
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: reality star is not easy, and although I am tough,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: I always gave grace in terms of like, I understand
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: that this social experiment isn't normal, No, it's not right.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: And I also am aware that it's easy for a
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: producer to say, don't care what the audience thinks because
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: we're not living through the lens of receiving being on
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: the receiving end of the comments, because it does hurt.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: And I spoke to nine Leaks recently and she said
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: to me on her on her show, she said, the
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: woman she is now, she loves the play she's in
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: because she doesn't care. And when she sees people talk
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: about her say crazy things today she said, Carlos, I
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: honestly do not care. And she said sometimes she wishes
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: she had that you know when early in the days
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: when social media starts to come out, and I do.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: I listen, you ladies and men who do it too
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: are very courageous because as a producer, I do not
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: want to be at a dinner table with my friends
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: having uncomfortable conversations. So I understand it's not easy. I
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: like to be behind the scenes, like and laugh and
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: smile and be like, oh, she's about to happen. But
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: even me, I would be a terrible reality star because
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: I don't like to tell my business. I like to
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: talk about other people's business. So I give you latest
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: and props in the world. And one thing I always
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: tell my audience is have a little bit of grace. Yes,
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: have an opinion. Throws some fun shape. I love fun shape,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: throw on me. I think it's funny. But stop when
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: it's to the point where you are eviscerating someone's life
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: in their livelihood, and you're don't get to the degree
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: where they no longer even feel comfortable because in the
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: moment they are in their head like how is this ship?
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: It's about to be viewed with the audience, because the
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: audience does not make it easy for you guys. So
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: I just want to say that you two have survived
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: a Real Housewife show. Beverly Hills Atlanta are very different,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: but it's two of the highest rated franchises, right, so
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: there's lots of eyeballs. So I just wanted to say
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: to the two of you the fact that you too
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: joined forces to do a podcast that we did not
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: see coming. I had no idea you too, were even friends.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: So when the announcmer came out me being honest something.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: Like that, No, you didn't even ask us how we
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: became friends.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: I'm like, what is that? What happened? But how did
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: you two become friends first and decide to do this podcast?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 5: We well, unlike most people think, we did not meet
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 5: through Bravo. We didn't meet at Bravo con or anything
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: I was at an event.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 5: Crystal was in an event at the Peninsula and in
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 5: Beverly Hills, and she approached me and introduced herself. I
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: think you had just started season, your first season on
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 5: Berverly Hills, and I don't know what season I was.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 4: I mean at that point, obviously she's iconic, so I
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: know who Cynthia is.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: But yeah, thank you. And she just told me, you know, like, hey,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: you know I'm starting or whatever.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: And you know, she said that a lot of times.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: I'm always proud when she says this that they called
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 5: her the.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 4: What people would say, Oh, Crystal's the Cynthia of Beverly Hills.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: So, and and just to the point, you know, we
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 5: are all you know, there's it's like a pot of
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: soup and there's something for everybody, and I think each
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: woman represents somebody does what you cannot have, and.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: You cannot have some portions. I tell people that all
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: the time. On the shows I created cast I told
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: producer Brent, I said, this show is missing a Cynthia Baalley.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: Somebody told me that you said that.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: I said that. I said it publicly.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 5: When you do your casting that you specifically said, or say,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 5: you know who's going to be Cynthia Bailey?
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Who's going to be that neutral person that is able
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: to see things, very balanced reason, the voice of reason,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: Like you can't have somen Kyle's. You gotta have a
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: little son, you know, like you gotta you definite really
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: need a rent a, Like you gotta have somebody that
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: doesn't mind like pushing, but you also need somebody who
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: can balance the dynamic.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well anyway, so yeah, so we we we talked
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 5: and then we exchange numbers like we always doing thing.
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: We never call each other, but we ended up standing
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 5: in touch and whenever I come to La, you know,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 5: we would go to Selouse whatever. So we became friends,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: like off of the show, off the show, and then
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: you called me what six months ago or five months
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: ago and I was like, hey, you know, I'm think
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 5: about doing a podcast.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, go ahead, girl collage.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: So she's like, but wait, but I was calling for
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: like some kind of support.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: Like I.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: Was like, that's a I love that for you. And
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: then she was like, but I'm thinking about having a
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: co host. I was like, well even better. I mean,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: you know, everyone like, yeah, you know what. I'm still
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: not getting the point. I did not get it.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, well, you know this one that
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 5: She's like, no, no, no, I want you to be
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 5: the co host. And I was like, when I tell
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: you it was not on my Bengo card that day.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 5: I was like wait, because, as you know me, Carlos,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 5: I'm uncomfortable on I don't like using my platform to
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 5: really put my opinions out there that much. Like I'm
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: very like I don't engage on social media, like I
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: don't fight with people on social media life, I don't
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: really respond. I really put my business, my work stuff
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: out there. I don't even put my personal life on
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 5: there at this point because I don't feel like social
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: media is a loving space for celebrity relationships. So me
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: and my new guy, we will never be I won't
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: be posting him and he won't be posting me on
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: social media. And that's a very intentional decision because it
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: can be very toxic and very judgmental, and I just can't,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 5: like I really want after two marriages and two divorces,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: I really want a real chance to really just get
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: to know somebody and not have the world chime in.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 5: And I feel like when you post about your relationship,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 5: you give them permission to comment because they're like, well,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 5: you shouldn't be posting it if you don't want to
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 5: say so, I don't do it.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: But with that said, it was just a space for us.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: I just knew her well, and I was like, you know,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: the show only allows a narrow viewpoint of us, and
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: I'm like, we're just so much more than the show,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 4: and I think it'd be really fun to just talk
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: about our lives and not have it edited down, and
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: like actually talk about the things that we're really doing
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: outside of the show. And I promised her, I said,
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: this is not going to be a housewive show because
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: we don't watch housewives, and it's not.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 5: We need another housewife show. Like we have a lot
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 5: of our girlfriends that were housewives. They're doing it like
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: and like we had some of them.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: That's where we would shine, Like we're not recappers, that's
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: not our thing. But I knew we had so much
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: more to say, and but I just all I promised her.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: I was like, this is not negative, Like I don't
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: ever come from a negative place. And that's we were
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: very and you know, we had pushed a lot to
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 4: be They want to see me and they want to like,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: that's not who we are, and like we have a
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: much bigger life and much broader perspective than needing to
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 4: do that. And yeah, then she I asked her to
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: marry me.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: She said, yeah, I accept.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: It, and.
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 3: You're on our wag.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: It took a same sex wedding for me, So that's
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: why we're here.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: And it's and by the way, when you were talking
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: about nine saying that, I totally agree. I think the audience,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: while we appreciate, you know, just their excitement about it,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 4: it's hard not to respond to it. And it's funny
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 4: now that I'm off of it, It's like, I totally
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: welcome negative commas. I enjoy reading them. I think it's funny.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 4: I'm like, people are negative about me, I'm like, okay,
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 4: ship like come.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: At me, like, I don't know.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: I find it fun now because I don't have anything
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: to lose where I felt like I did before, So
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 4: like I want to clap back of people because I
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 4: think it's funny. And I'm like, because robab like you're
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 4: an asshole, like you know, you're like bitchy, and and
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 4: he is one throughout the years encouraging me to thank you.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's amazing, thank you. But he was upset with me.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: He'd watch and he's like, why are you not speaking up?
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: Like it annoyed him. He's like, you fucking at me
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 4: every day. You yell at all your friends every day,
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: Like why are you so scared?
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 3: I was like, I really don't know. But now that
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: I'm off, I'm like, oh.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like I totally see my part in all of it.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 4: But you know, you can't you can't reverse, you can't
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: like go back. You just have to look back and
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 4: see what you have done differently. But I don't have
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 4: any regrets. I can't because I could only be who
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: I was in that moment, you know.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: So now listen, I love the podcast and thank you.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: One question for you before we end your ex husband,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: Peter Tomas, as you know, has been sentenced to prison
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: and for tax evasion or something along those lines, and
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: I want to make sure I get the right terminology.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: Don't read me, Peter if I got them wrong. I
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: love you, brother. I did speak to Peter recently. He's
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: in a great hit space. Have you spoken to him,
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: is how do you feel about what's going on?
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: Or I have spoken to him about the situation.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: We spoke quite a bit about it, and honestly, I'm
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 5: just ready for him to just get it over with.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: You know, this has been the whole situation has been,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 5: you know, just hanging over his head for a while.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: He's known about it for a while, and now it's
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 5: finally going to happen, and I just, you know, encouraged
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 5: him to use the time to to you know, Martha Stewart,
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 5: the whole thing. You know what I'm saying, use that
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: time to do the other things that you want to
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: do when you get out, Like he did it. He
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: takes accountability and he has to go serve that time.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 5: But I think in a perfect world, this will be
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 5: a great opportunity for Peter to just be still and
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 5: come back with a game plan because you know we
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 5: have not seen the last Peter. You know, he's coming
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: out stronger than ever. And I'm just glad that I
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: really just from you know, someone who was his wife
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: for eight years. Child, Just go get it over with
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: and come on back out and and and do what
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: you're gonna do.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, heard Martha sear use as a verb.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: Peter, watch your documentary. Netflix is really good. It's really good.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: It's really good. And Peter, we love you and we
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: know how you know you love to read. The girls
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: read me you need no Peter knows, fine, but no,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: so Hummel Bragg. Make sure you guys is available wherever
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: you get your podcast and YouTube. Ladies, gentlemen, gays and days,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: Cynthia Belly and Crystal. Yes, okay, love you guys. We're
• 1:30:34
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• 1:30:38
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