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How the Grinch Stole Christmas · The Art of Costume Podcast

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Who's not enjoying life. So much as poor little Cindy.
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Lou Who? No, she's wondering.
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Where Christmas is that? Yeah.
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Why can't she find it? Yeah.
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Why has it gone away? Because she realizes Christmas
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in a lot of ways for is ruled by capitalism.
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Sorry cast.
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I'm Elizabeth Joy glass and I'm Spencer jehu VA.
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How's it going Elizabeth? It's good.
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Spencer jehu. VA.
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That would rhyme doctor kind of like this.
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Of all the names. You've given yourself.
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I approve of this. One know'st fun.
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Oh my gosh. We're getting into the holiday
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season. I know this is wild, although I
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did already buy some Christmas presents, so really.
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Yeah, you're crazy. I'm still working on birthday
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presents now. I mean, I went on a trip and I
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saw some some Some things I was like, oh, X Y or Z would love
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this. That's how I was like.
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It was a moment of opportunity and I took it.
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I feel like we just did Christmas.
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I mean, it was like three weeks ago when we recorded a holiday
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and watch Nightmare Before Christmas together, right?
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That was like, almost a whole year ago now, that's insane.
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The year is just, it's going so quickly.
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I know. It's like, I don't have time for
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anything. Also fun.
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Found out to our listeners, we are recording this and like,
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what what month is? It August?
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And it is August. It is, this is August 21st,
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fully 90 degrees outside. Like no snow.
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No, we're down. We're getting in the Christmas
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spirit, though. We're doing our best.
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We are and like I did. So.
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Okay. So I got my first like,
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Christmas presents of the Season she's tracking.
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I also started my annual like Christmas list for other.
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People like, I am like, okay, who do I need to get presents
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for and I usually start this like, July August.
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So, I'm right on track. Okay, well, this is actually
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good that were you recording this of our head?
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Because you could get me into these good habits.
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So, when December actually comes, I'm not so far behind.
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Yeah. Now I even put like, if there's
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like a certain group of people that I'm like, like, work people
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where I'm like, okay, I'll probably have to get them
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something. Yeah, I'll like make like like
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little curated Give all the people, the same little like
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gift bag situation. So I start looking on sales for
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like that sort of stuff. I give myself a couple months.
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Hmm. And you know list out like okay,
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they're probably going to get this.
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You're probably going to get this.
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Yeah, once we get Daniel, that's a great question.
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He's, I feel like he's hard to shop for because he's definitely
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the kind of person who gets everything they want to get
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themselves. Daniel like, Looks cool like
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techy stuff, that's true. This is usually stuff to make
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our podcast better, which feels self-serving in life.
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I feel like I have to like step it up.
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Yeah, it's fun getting gifts for, you know, our group of
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friends. But scrub harder for me,
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actually, like you used to be easy.
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But now I feel like I've just gotten everyone so many.
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Things that I'm like, I'm not able to like top myself.
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Does it make sense? That makes sense.
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And I like a damn, I just got Daniel Christmas gift like two
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months ago seems like I get another one now.
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Like what's going on? I understand what you're saying.
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I don't know. I don't feel that way.
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All right. Well yeah, you're awesome.
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Our Christmas Maven. You know I fucking love
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Christmas. Like it sometimes a problem.
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Like I probably go a little too hard sometimes but you know
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what? You're an inspiration to us all.
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Thank you. Yeah, I also tried this is like
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the time of year. I'm a very crafty person but I
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do not have the time to be crafty, so a lot of that comes
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out at Christmas right because I'm like, oh my gosh, we should
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be wearing the hats you meet us last year I yeah, yeah.
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Next episode. Okay, yeah, I would have to like
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climb up on top of my bookcase to at my hat.
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So I'll have to walk into the hot sun to my garage, to get to
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the Christmas stuff and yeah, like decorating do my.
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It's just it's fine. Yeah, I'm excited.
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Nobody judges you no one judges, he'll no one judges.
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You can be as in between the months of October and January
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you can be as insane. Shane, as you want and nobody's
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going to think twice about it, right?
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I'm more of the Halloween, insane person and you're
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definitely then sane person for I forgot that Christmas on, you
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know, but I don't not like her since I'm definitely not a
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Grinch. So to say, I love Christmas, but
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you're not a Whovian. Yeah, like me, you know who
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spends all year? You know, who doesn't like Chris
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This Elizabeth, I think we just established it is the Grinch
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this week. We watched How the Grinch Stole
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Christmas. A classic a classic dr.
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Seuss's How the Grinch Stole Christmas, which I did not
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realize they that dr. Seuss's How the Grinch Stole
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Christmas was the complete title of this film and was like
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low-key kind of confused when I looked it up on IMDb.
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I'm glad you said that because I have to, you know, do all the
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information on the internet. And stuff.
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So both hashtag Spencer. Well I will read us our summary
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before Elizabeth Dives behind the Wardrobe and this
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live-action adaptation of the Beloved children's tale by dr.
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Seuss. The reclusive Grinch decides to
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ruin Christmas for the Cheery citizens of Who-ville
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reluctantly joined by his dog. Max, the Grinch Comes down from
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his Mountaintop home and sneaks into town to swipe everything.
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Holiday-related from the whose however, the bitter Grump finds
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a hitch in his plans when he encounters done during Cindy Lou
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Who, and that is dr. Seuss's How the Grinch Stole
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Christmas? Yes, it is.
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This movie is over 20 years old. So, if you haven't seen it, I
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don't know what to tell you. There are going to be spoilers.
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Yeah, I actually don't believe you if you said you haven't seen
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this movie. I mean, it's on every day.
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Even. Yeah.
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Not during Christmas. It is it is and I this will like
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this was not like a holiday classic for me.
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Like I feel like it was for like a lot of people our age but I
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definitely seen it before and then so I watched it again the
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other day. It's one of those movies.
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You go, walking realize like wow there are a lot of adult jokes
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and this and also I love I think.
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Max is my favorite character. The dog, the dog because he is
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like he is looking out for the Grinch.
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He tries to make the Grinch a good person which I'm like, go
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Max. Well, I'm in a camp that grew up
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watching this movie regardless of how you felt about it.
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Every Christmas, we watch it all the time.
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My family loved it. We had it on DVD even came with
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like the sing-along version of the songs.
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Oh my gosh. Amazing Faith Hill music video
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at the end. Like everyone knows I'm talking
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about. I've seen it so many times.
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Yeah, well, for all of you who are ready, let's go behind the
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Wardrobe, we have director, Ron, Howard, forgot, Ron, Howard had
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directed. I did not actually know that.
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That's pretty cool. Yeah, because this is not feel
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like our Ron Howard movie but that we also have costume
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designer Rita ry'ac, who got an Oscar nomination for this thing.
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No, I also know her work from Apollo 13 Casino rush hour to a
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beautiful. Mine that Cat in the Hat, shark
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Charlotte's Web hairspray, which we have to do that at some
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point. You don't like it.
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We'll talk about it later, but I do love the Cat in the Hat, that
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movie is amazing. I haven't seen that movie.
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Okay, well we'll do the Cat in the Hat.
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If we do her Sprite, no vice versa.
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I'll do hairspray if you do Cat in the Hat.
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Okay. Okay.
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We also have, she also did Rock of Ages and the Smurfs the first
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and second movie. Oh nice.
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So she I feel like, she's like, ooh, she went from doing like,
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kind of like action e like historical / contemporary into
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like being like a goofy. Costume costume designer, which
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I think is really funny. Yeah, she has the range read it.
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Does she does. She does.
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I have to see us use on Instagram because she is like a
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very fun dresser. Like when you see her like at
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events and stuff, I'm like, that's fun.
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I like that. She has like Betsey Johnson
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Vibes. I love that.
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I don't think she does have an Instagram, I believe I've tried
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to follow her before, but if I'm wrong Rita we're going to follow
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you after this. So yes.
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Yes, And most of our behind-the-scenes wardrobe facts
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are baked into the episode, but she did say to the Los Angeles
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Times working on the Grinch. It was challenging.
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But in a way, it was great to let my imagination flow t-shirts
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and jeans can be more challenging.
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So she was like, yeah. Obviously, this was a
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challenging challenging movie and when she was talking to the
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Los Angeles Times, it's when she was working on Rush Hour 2, so
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she was A lot of t-shirts and jeans and she's like, you know,
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that can be even harder than just letting your imagination
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run wild, right? Oh my gosh, I love Rush Hour 2.
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I think I'm a big reader right fan?
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Thank you are. I think you are but everybody
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get your hot chocolate. Get some cookies and then settle
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in for dr. Seuss's How the Grinch Stole
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Christmas. How the Grinch Stole Christmas
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when we return, I forgot the title.
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Title for a hot second. Go check on your Whoville hash
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take it out of the oven. It's time.
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Yeah. Hello.
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go. Do prancing around Who-ville,
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prancing around Whoville would take a vacation here he would
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live here. Let's all be real.
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Yeah, I would I absolutely would.
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And you know for the Grinch you know, almost everyone in this
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film is wearing a Prosthetic, the costumes are wild and for
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the hair makeup and wardrobe Department.
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It was a tall order to do this movie.
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And like this is this is 22 years ago.
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So, like it was really a tall order to do this film.
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And, you know, emerging technology, they used to its
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fullest potential. This opening scene is CGI.
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They made. Yeah, they made CGI.
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Who's You can tell it mostly with like because I knew that,
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I'd done my research and then like, watch the movie.
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You can kind of tell it with that, who in the lower
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right-hand corner, who's like throwing the presents.
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Oh, well, you can tell it the most with that one.
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Wow, that could have fooled me. Yeah, it's really good.
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I think because it's they don't try to be very like,
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detail-oriented with them. I guess that it works out the
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most. But I thought that was so
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interesting because they were like, you know, it's a lot of
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like, all the Prosthetics the costumes like it's this, not
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easy or quick. So for for this scene where
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there's so many of them, they were like, okay, let's just CGI.
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Then we cut it. Give hair and makeup a little
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bit of a break. Yeah, it sounds like the the
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makeup, the gentleman who did the makeup.
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I'm forgetting his vein, I'm sorry, but he this was a hard
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film for him. I believe they won the Academy
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Award actually the prosthetics. Team I think they did and he's
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gone on to do other I think award-winning I'm sure they're
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like that's a grinch guy get him on.
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Get him on board you know but what I love about Whoville is
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like it does very much feel like a real place and Rita said to
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the Los Angeles Times that the studio they wanted.
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A who in a workout outfit who has a soccer mom I suppose you
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can't really ignore the studio. But I didn't do any of that.
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So she was like, that's what they wanted, but that's not what
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happened because the who's have a very specific Society.
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Yeah, and the hoos are not playing soccer.
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They're not playing soccer. They're like practicing their
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gift wrapping they've gift-wrapping classes.
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Like, come on, they pray, have like, gift-wrapping leagues, you
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know, like little league for gift, wrapping.
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Absolutely, absolutely. Side note, I am like I have to
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break down my like Pinterest board for the holidays.
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Create a whole new board Halloween, its own separate
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board for Halloween, because I'm like, I think I need a section
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in my Pinterest board, just for gift wrap.
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You are intense. I'm the person who gets my gift
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wrap like the day before. I need to give someone a gift,
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you know, hey, how many places can you Learn how to gift-wrap a
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teddy bear. Very few Pinterest knows that's
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crazy. But yeah, I love the citizens of
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Who-ville. We're looking at bunch of
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pictures of them. Now, I always loved the teacher.
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She has a yeah. Look, the fabric on her suit.
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It's just or maybe it's a dress. I can't tell suit dress.
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I think it's a skirt suit Ensemble, right?
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The textile is so pretty with like this, like I don't know.
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Mom. Looking purple textile on it
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with the shawl around her, it's like a really intense Swiss dot
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fabric almost. Yeah.
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Like that's like what it reminds me of but she's always one of my
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favorites and it's like, I love this, like, pseudo 60s, feel all
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the who's have because they're very idealistic Society.
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But a lot, her mom in this opening scenes though kind of
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takes the cake with her. Her like her robe.
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That's just all Christmas colors.
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And then the little, it's accented perfectly with those
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peppermint like hair rollers, she has and Molly.
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Shannon, does not look like, Molly Shannon in this film at
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all. She really gets lost on a
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depressed etics. It's so cool.
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It's what? I forget, how many like really
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famous? People are a beauty and you just
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have no idea. No, you don't.
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Um, and we also have Postal Department, which I'm like,
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beautiful, like their their costumes are just beautiful.
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Yeah. It's you could tell like the
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Fabrics are just so soft and keeping them, nice and bundled
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up and warm, even though I believe this was shot, mostly in
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Universal Studios, so it's probably probably not very cold
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outside when they shot this. No.
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But you only need to be able to tell, you know, it feels like
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this is filmed in the straight Arctic.
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Yeah, absolutely. But talk Talking more about the
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who's Los Angeles, Times Reich said, I thought, since the who
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spend their whole year preparing for Christmas, everything would
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be made by hand. So, to achieve this Rita did
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something very unique. She went to Brookside Elementary
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School in virtue Ventura County's Oak Park to enlist some
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second graders to create like presents.
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Gingerbread men stars to embellish costumes.
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She said anything that looks crude and has lots of macaroni
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and glitter they made. I love that.
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That's so funny. It's almost like, Rita, watch
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Priscilla, Queen of the Desert and heard about the prisoners.
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Yeah, but she was like, well we could, you know, change it
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around a little bit. Maybe seconds later writers, I'm
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like, that's really into because second graders like, Have like
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sufficient motor skills to not like you don't need to like
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watch a second grader 24/7. Like they're not going to cut
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their fingers off, but also there are still like they don't
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have like good eye for detail either.
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So they're just like, yeah, everything.
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So funny. I love that.
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That is what I like. They're really unique things
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about this movie is like they just have stuff stuck to their
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costumes, like the 11 of the Grinch's.
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Mom's. She literally has like a shrug
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that's covered in these fake Christmas cookies and she has
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Christmas cookies in her hair to just everything.
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Everything 100% also have to say their Christmas party at the
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beginning when they're telling the story of how the Grinch,
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like, what dropping all the keys and to the Fishbowl.
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Yeah, that's Elizabeth's Jam right there.
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The party, I was like, this is hilarious.
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This is hilarious. This movie is so funny.
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It's so high old. All the acessories are so fun to
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look at. They're all like unique every
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single character. You look at, there's not one
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character that looks the same. No, absolutely not.
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And, according to the Los Angeles Times, you know, there
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were a lot of, like, knit, It pieces in this.
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So Rita Enlisted, the help of New York designer Maria fickle
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Aura and l.a. designer Suzanne cousins who ended up making 250
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knit pieces for the film. Wow, that's a lot of work for a
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lot of work but you can see it because I wanted to this unlike
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This movie is so beautifully coordinated like they don't pop
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out to you right away. And then when I was like,
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looking back through pictures and so I'm like, oh gosh, they
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do have a lot of like sweaters and scarves and like Nick loves
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like it's all over the place. Yeah.
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Another sweater game in. This film is crazy strong and
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they even have like matching scarves to that goes with the
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sweaters. Often the so good.
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It's just that's like one of the best parts of this film is just
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Trying to pick people out on a crowd and there's just so many
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of them. So, every time you watch this
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movie, you see something different?
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Yes, I love the one who has like the Christmas sweater, but with
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this like music detail on it, like, she's not like a
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character. She's just like one of the
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people in the crowd. My like I would wear that
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sweater. You would wear the hello.
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That's what. Yeah, and I love that.
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The guy that Who you're talking about.
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She's holding on to this old guy who's clearly wearing.
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Like, you know, those cheesy Blazers that people get from
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Target. Every Christmas I like do not
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buy those please. Yeah, he's going full in.
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I will say about this is like Christmas Blazers and Suits.
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It's really hard to find a good one.
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Yeah. That's that's a, that's a high
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order right there. But this guys, pulling it off,
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you know? Yes.
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He has the cowboy Christmas hat and lots of bows.
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Those and the he's holding onto the girl of the music sweater.
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So, he's pretty set up here. He is, he is, he's enjoying his
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life who's not enjoying life, so much as poor little Cindy.
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Lou, Who? No, she's warming.
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Where Christmas is that? Why can't she find it?
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Yeah. Why has it gone away?
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Because she realizes Christmas in a lot of ways for is ruled by
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capitalism. Yes, that's it.
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Sorry, sir. Hey learning at Young, right?
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I think I'm in my city lose stage right now, actually,
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despair. Even I struggle with that.
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But Cindy, Lou, Who, who has some killer looks in his film.
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She's quite the fashion queen actually got.
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What's your favorite City Live? Who look Josh?
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I don't know. I really like her her like
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whobilation with like the, the really cute, like cape the red
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cape with like the white detail and her little Chocolate Fest
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100. Yeah.
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It's my favorite, but she's a lot of good ones and this
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brought back a memory. I had forgotten about this
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elementary school. I went to we every year for dr.
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Seuss day. There was like a huge, huge
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party and like you were allowed to dress up and like we did all
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this fun stuff, but I dressed up as Cindy Lou, Who of course, but
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I was over horse. When I was in first grade
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because I for whatever reason, I think is the only year I
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actually remember dressing up. I don't know of any other grades
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actually dressed up. Now that I think about it.
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It also like Peter towel over the years, nice mom, you know
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what to do. Well, one of my sisters friends,
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the high school had done, I think Charlie and the Chocolate
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Factory as like the school play the year before something, and I
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don't know why. But my, my sisters friend had
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stayed over that night. And she like, did my hair with
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like pipe cleaners and like, made my hair, all crazy.
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And I was so cute. I had a like white nightgown
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with like a little, like red bow and I won the costume.
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Oh yeah, that's it. She never looked back and now
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you never looked back as serious costume podcast.
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No, I need see if I'm even have that picture.
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Yeah, it's a me and someone who ended up being one of my best
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friends in elementary school. We i--'cause, I think there were
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like two places. Are we tied or something?
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But it was the two of us because we both looked amazing, right?
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Amazing. Yeah, well, that's my mom.
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Yeah. Elizabeth Spa, my knee.
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Eat it. I think my favorite Cindy Lou
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Who look is actually, it's a more low key one that's when
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she's staying up at night, singing out the window to the
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Christmas gods or whatever, but it's just like, such a cute
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little like night. Look like her hair's still up
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and looking, right. But then she just has like this
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cute little like pom pom collar. Look.
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It's just like, that's such a cute.
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Look, I feel like if it was done for like older people, too, and
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still be cute too. You know.
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It's a cute look. I mean this is what my Child is
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going to look like. I do love Cindy, Lou whose
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outfits especially this pink one because she I feel like all the
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other whose are almost exclusively wearing like,
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quote-unquote Christmas colors but she has like a lot of pink
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in her wardrobe and like that. Like that gray coat.
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We first see her in kind of like, okay, she's not all about
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the Christmas, she's more about what it means.
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So I feel like that's a nice little like, Deviation for
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actually the coke is me like more of a blue vibe to me like I
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feel like she's yeah, you're right.
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She's not afraid to really get out of the Christmas palette
26:42
because she does have her own personality.
26:43
She doesn't want her personality to be Christmas driven.
26:47
Like every other insane person in this town who cares about
26:52
people. She's a very caring who yeah, so
26:56
touching so touchings, not as touch, Aang is when she's doing
27:02
her little investigation, her investigative reporting on the
27:06
Grinch. You're eight years old and you
27:09
have a beard. That's so sad.
27:13
Um, but I did love the school uniforms.
27:16
These sailor. Looks.
27:19
Yeah, those are good. Looks such a good luck.
27:22
It works on everybody. Yeah.
27:24
The Sailor looks so good. Martha.
27:28
May, who VA? Of course, Is like the fashion
27:31
icon of the school. Yeah.
27:32
You can already tell she's the it girl, her, look.
27:35
I mean, she's just carrying the school on her back.
27:39
The gloves, the pearl necklace. The hair she's like, yes, I will
27:45
be the one who to rule the fashion scene here.
27:49
The one who to rule them all to rule them all.
27:53
Yeah, I mean she even has like the big Petticoat underneath.
27:56
Like, I don't know if anyone else has that.
27:58
She's just like really dressed. Up.
28:00
I think she has the biggest Petticoat of any of the girls
28:04
for sure in the scene. Then the Grinch, you know, he's
28:08
not looking too great. He's a cutie though.
28:14
You would definitely be in love with the Grinch.
28:16
That's how good your Christmas spirit is he didn't deserve the
28:20
life. He got ya.
28:26
The Grand Isle of eight year old baby Grinch.
28:28
Like they did that like Age down so perfectly right.
28:33
Wow. But Spencer after a little a
28:37
little school. Are you ready to finish out How
28:41
the Grinch Stole Christmas? I'm ready.
28:44
Let's take a little break and try to save our beards, okay?
28:49
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Oh, Christmas Elizabeth! I ready to get back into it.
29:59
I am so ready. We got Martha, may who V8 played
30:04
by just the brilliant, Christine Baranski, Spencer.
30:09
She's one of your It's this is where my Christine Baranski
30:13
crushed. Began.
30:15
At the young age of whenever I was, I first saw the Grinch
30:18
until now I've just been obsessed with her.
30:21
Christine Baranski is the it girl.
30:23
She looks so good. Every single.
30:25
Look, she's serving. She's giving costumes.
30:28
She's giving fashion Elegance. She's giving like royalty
30:33
bombshell. She has just like the most like
30:37
old Hollywood style of all the who I mean from here all the way
30:42
up to Gilded Age, it hasn't changed.
30:44
I'm just sounds like Christine Baranski, no Mamma Mia hoof
30:49
forever forever, a style. Icon gotta say though that first
30:54
look that like mrs. Claus Santa Claus look.
30:57
We see her in at first. Oh yeah ridiculous, yeah, that
31:01
look should be in a museum. If it's not already, is she
31:05
comes out, she mounts that like big old Christmas light machine
31:09
gun. It's just so good wild and her
31:17
Silhouettes are always like similar to everyone else's, but
31:20
they're just like bigger, you know, there's always more
31:23
elegant. Yeah, they're more elegant.
31:26
Very old. Hollywood glamour.
31:29
One of my favorite looks of hers is though when they all come out
31:32
and like their robes, and she has this beautiful like ice blue
31:37
rope with like this, like insane white fur.
31:40
Every trend is insane. She looks like, I don't know.
31:45
Just like a beautiful angel just walking across the snow.
31:49
Yeah, she's given like very like K.
31:52
Queen like Vibes, you know? As she's like Steps out amongst
31:56
all those. She's not a regular who.
31:59
She's a cool who she is, she is especially during the
32:04
whobilation ceremony. Oh my gosh, this is like the
32:09
ultimate Christmas. Look, I always love this lik
32:13
when I was, like, at the same time, I used to always think it
32:16
was like, giving a strawberry look because, like, the bodice
32:20
has like red and then also Goss. Yeah, yeah, the dots look like
32:24
seeds. I go into the green.
32:26
I know, it's not, but that's something that just always
32:29
sticks out to me. I guess, I, I love it.
32:33
She looks like like a Christmas tree.
32:36
Almost like as the matching shrug.
32:39
The I think those are like Velvet gloves, the like, the
32:44
jewelry, which is ridiculous, and the fact that her hair is
32:47
styled into little presents. Come on.
32:51
That is like, the best part. Her hair is like, a full-on
32:54
Christmas tree. Yeah.
32:56
And her jewelry. It just looks like so expensive.
32:59
I don't know if it's like costume jewelry or real jewelry.
33:02
And jewelry. Probably, but it looks like
33:05
expensive. She looks Rich even if she's
33:09
standing next to that dork of Here.
33:11
Who I dial gosh. Every time he speaks it's like
33:13
nails on a chalkboard but Martha may who Vieja?
33:18
The fires of love so cute, but something like not as cute
33:27
character. We have the Grinch and his many
33:32
fashion moments. Read assessing the Los Angeles
33:37
Times about the Grinch's. Robe.
33:41
I wanted everything to look like he made it out of materials from
33:46
his cave, which you succeeded, you succeeded, especially with
33:52
that first Brown robe. He wears into town.
33:57
Oh yes. Just like some dirty blanket
33:59
that he found two, maybe like stitched together to make like a
34:03
Star Wars. Jedi robe.
34:05
You know, I will say the Grinch is very mechanically
34:08
intelligent, so yeah. All sorts of Contraptions, he
34:13
can, he can sew together a robe like that one.
34:16
Sexy nightgown. He wears with the like black
34:19
mess and that's it. That's definitely one of the
34:24
reject Christmas gifts you got. Yeah, that's definitely
34:29
lingerie. Mr. Grinch I love though it's
34:35
such an iconic look, is his my gosh.
34:39
What do you call it later? Hosen.
34:40
In yes funny. So I'd forgotten how he got them
34:46
to Street. If Rob's a who yeah he Rob's a
34:50
who on the mountain whose yodeling on the top of, you
34:54
know, the mountain and it works perfectly.
34:57
I mean, it's I don't know how she came up with this idea but
35:00
worked I don't know if it was a script moment but worked
35:04
perfectly for the Grinch, it worked perfectly.
35:07
It's like the yellow is perfect. The great like the Green like
35:11
leafy detail perfectly like compliments, his fur tone.
35:18
Uh-huh. And I'll sew it.
35:20
Like compliments is like Grinch body to because it's very like
35:24
Dad bod, which is what makes the Grinch so like Grinchy.
35:28
I guess so the later house and really accentuate solve his
35:33
Grinch Enos. Absolutely.
35:34
Absolutely. And then there's one outfit I'd
35:37
forgotten about which is his test done Dummy Ensemble.
35:44
I was like, dude, you are busy, you are a busy busy Grinch.
35:49
That is nothing else to do. Of course, he has like a test
35:52
dummy. Look, it's clearly like sound
35:56
like, put together by himself to, you know.
35:59
Yeah, absolutely. What does not put together by
36:03
himself, though, is the sweater his mom's made for him.
36:08
Suzanne cousins, talk to the law.
36:10
Angeles Times about this sweater.
36:13
She said, I did hundreds of designs for that sweater.
36:17
I wanted something that the Grinch would find defensive but
36:21
that he would grudgingly where that's so funny.
36:25
Yeah, it is offencive did it grants for sure?
36:31
It's yeah, it's so cute. It's so funny.
36:36
She also said about this, look, the Grinch has a lot to do.
36:40
Do with what I do. The, a symmetrical lines bright
36:43
colors. Bold designs have a real
36:47
Scandinavian influence. And I'm like, you know what,
36:51
this movie does? Have a little bit of that
36:54
Scandinavian influence. Yeah, I see it which is not
36:58
something you would think of at first, but it definitely has
37:01
that. Yeah, yeah.
37:03
I definitely see that. I love that sweater.
37:06
That's just like it's such a classic.
37:08
Such a classic piece. Everyone knows.
37:11
It's also like it looks good on him to against the green fur and
37:17
that hairpiece he's wearing you know, he's looking like the May
37:20
Queen right now. Yeah the crown, the crown is so
37:23
good, I love that Crown. I'm just always so fascinated
37:27
with the Grinch look to I think it was Jim Carrey who I believe
37:30
he said that it basically was like, like torture putting all
37:34
this on all the time. It was a real.
37:36
Yeah. Intense process becoming the
37:38
Grinch every single day and being Stuck in this look every
37:42
day so it's really amazing. That all came to killer to way
37:45
it did. It was it took hours and hours
37:48
to get him in and out of his costume and Prosthetics Ron,
37:53
Howard actually dressed up as the Grinch one day.
37:56
Oh yeah. Just to see what it was like.
37:59
And he's like, oh yeah, this is. This is hard.
38:03
But the Grinch's Sue was made of spandex like a spandex bodysuit
38:10
and yeah. Care.
38:11
So it was, like, shedding all the time.
38:14
It was hot Rita, said to the Los Angeles Times.
38:18
I thought they should have given him to Spring hairs.
38:22
I didn't expect that architecture.
38:25
So she was like, not crash. He's thinking of the cartoon
38:30
where his hair just a splits at the top and call it a day.
38:34
Yeah, she wasn't super happy as shed a lot.
38:38
It was hot. She was like it was just
38:40
difficult. Colt to like work with ya.
38:43
Like it created, such an iconic look.
38:46
And then once he like puts his Santa hat and like Santa jacket
38:51
on he just looks like so perfect.
38:54
Yeah, it's perfect. That actually is like his best
38:58
costume to and like something about to is so Grinchy to where
39:02
it is. Like you know a jolly Santa
39:04
costume but has an edge to it like a a bit more like matted
39:09
and especially like Has like a little bit more of an edge to
39:13
where he's creepy. He's not the real Santa no.
39:16
Yeah. It's like The Firs not quite
39:20
like floofy enough. I feel like his jacket is cut
39:25
like kind of on the slim side like you'd expect it to have a
39:28
little more like room. The Bell is obnoxious Lee large.
39:33
I'm like hey it's trying to keep all that bottled and that little
39:38
yeah Santa suit. It is brilliant.
39:43
It's what we end on with How the Grinch Stole Christmas.
39:47
Spencer, what a good one, it's a classic.
39:51
There's just, I mean we could talk for hours about every
39:54
single costume in this film. There's so many, which is why
39:58
she was nominated for an Oscar. Absolutely.
40:01
I wonder what it was nominated against.
40:05
I don't know. It looked at a brokerage.
40:09
Wow, it was actually Really packed year.
40:11
The Year, the Grinch was nominated.
40:14
Are you ready for this? Yes, there was quills by
40:18
Jacqueline. West.
40:20
I heard that's a good one. How the Grinch Stole Christmas
40:22
by Rita. Of course this was the you're
40:25
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon came out Tim yep. 102 Dalmatians
40:32
by Anthony Powell. So the winner was Gladiator by
40:37
jayanti Yates. Oh, But sighs.
40:41
It was a packed year. It was a packed here.
40:43
I've never seen Gladiator. Still it's good.
40:48
I saw him for the first time a couple of years ago.
40:50
It's good. It has a sad ending but it's
40:52
good. Well maybe we'll add it to the
40:54
list something. You know we love some jayanti
40:56
gates. Yeah.
40:58
And with that lives with plus play our favorite game.
41:01
Yes. The one costume to rule them
41:06
all. Spencer was your one costume to
41:14
rule them all but I really do. You have one?
41:20
I mean basically. Anything Martha.
41:22
May who VA, where's I picked her?
41:25
Blue nightgown but mostly because I thought you were going
41:29
to pick her red Santa look. So I feel, I don't know what
41:33
you're going to pick. So I went with the blue tie can
41:36
count. Look it's so Useful.
41:38
I just love watching her, just like Glide across the snow, the
41:43
blue, and the white just like merge, so beautifully with the
41:46
snow. Just so Angelic.
41:49
Christine Baranski, I love you, please DM us.
41:53
That is a great one. I do love that.
41:55
Look, however, I chose her. Who the latian Gown that you
42:02
said? Looks like a strawberry gives
42:04
strawberry Vibes. It's still beautiful.
42:08
It is beautiful. I feel like it's like it says
42:10
everything. Like the who's believe Christmas
42:13
is about but it's still elegant and fun and just Martha may who
42:20
VA to the very ends seriously that she needs like her own
42:25
spin-off movie? Can we talk to Ron Howard about
42:29
that? That would be cool.
42:31
That would be cool. I don't know what her life was
42:33
like between the Grinch leaving and coming back, right?
42:37
Cause like She's clearly always been in love with the Grinch,
42:40
but like he disappeared, he straight up disappeared and she
42:43
didn't know what to do. Oh my God, she has this foolish
42:46
man thinking like he like has some sort of weird, right to her
42:51
some like weird, like sad a drama movie with Christine
42:55
Baranski. Well, it has feel like a
42:58
younger, Christine Baranski. I don't know, maybe we could do
43:00
like a, like a Christine Baranski talking about her life,
43:05
you know, and there's like, you know, like Anya Taylor Are you
43:08
playing Martha? Make an animated feature.
43:14
So it's just Christine forgotten.
43:15
Skis voice. Yes, I will.
43:17
But anyways, this is so much fun.
43:21
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43:25
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43:28
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43:31
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44:23
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44:27
so we are taking a little break e-brake, everybody but Spencer,
44:31
I am really excited for our next movie, which I have not seen yet
44:36
and it is It is jingle jangle a Christmas Journey oh it is a
44:43
Netflix original everybody so get to it I've never seen it but
44:48
I've heard it is incredible in terms of costuming so get out
44:52
there and watch it it looks visually stunning I don't know
44:58
why I haven't seen it yet because I remember when it came
45:00
out and everybody like talking about it and being like Oh it's
45:04
so good and I put it on my Netflix.
45:07
List and then, I don't know why. I don't watch it.
45:10
So I'm really excited to watch it now, right?
45:12
I do like one new Christmas movie a year, last year's
45:16
holiday, so this year will be jingle jangle, okay?
45:20
Okay, everybody ready, settle, you know, make some hot
45:25
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45:28
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45:32
little peppermint schnapps in it.
45:34
That's my holiday or shirt for you.
45:36
There's this already. Done that during this recording
45:39
not during this recording but maybe next week, I have to make
45:43
sure I have peppermint schnapps first.
45:46
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