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#24 - Scott Hastings: Motorsports Photographer · After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports

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  What is going on everybody? Welcome to the faction after
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  hours, podcast. Thank you for tuning in tonight.
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  We have a guest. We have Scott Hastings.
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  Motorsports photographer Club loose.
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  Just like, I'll just lean attendee.
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  Yeah, that would be the best. I drove there.
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  You put the closer. Oh, you did.
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  Oh, we got to talk about that then because I wasn't even
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  aware. Yeah, and this is honestly, the
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  first time I've met you as always Like I always just meet.
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  That's probably one of my favorite things about this
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  podcast is that I get to meet people.
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  So this is my first time meeting you and I don't really know much
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  about you. I see your photos clearly.
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  Um, But so your Motorsports photographer.
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  Do you specify specifically in drifting or do you like do all
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  around? I shot a rally.
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  Once there was a rallying Englishtown.
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  Oh, yeah. I remember, yeah.
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  Wait, what? Yeah.
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  Oh, you don't know about that? No, I did not know about that
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  was so Billy from broken Motorsports.
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  We also got to get on here. Yes, you do.
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  Yeah like way like yes you do. I'm Adam to my list.
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  He did a, he's like big in the rally scene.
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  Obviously works on mostly rally cars and all that good stuff,
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  but he like coerced the Naps into hosting a rally Sprint at
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  Englishtown. Oh, of course, it was on the
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  dirt bike course, they moved like a bunch of piles of dirt
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  around and it was pretty sick. Like the stuff you see in Europe
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  there were like escort Cosworth and their evos and yeah Audi
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  quattros and stuff. Like it was, it was proper.
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  I've photos of it. And, you know, I'll see if I
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  could see if I can grab. What year was that?
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  It was a 2016, I think. Damn, I can't believe those so
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  long ago now that sounds in. That's sounds pretty.
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  Oh, there it is Raceway Park rally Sprint.
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  Yeah. But damn, that's a, that's a
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  pretty cool concept. I mean, you have both the
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  ingredients there. So why not right?
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  Well, it did. Yeah, that couldn't have been
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  more perfect. I feel like No, I mean, they
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  they did the, they can't do it anymore.
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  At least I don't think because the the dirt, like, the pro derp
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  like, track is now there. Yeah.
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  You used to be a cross the street, I think, or, or they
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  didn't. It wasn't solely the dirt bike
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  track Society on that one, but then they go on the pavement,
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  too. It was.
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  Yeah, the rally like Backwoods section where you were going
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  through the trees from the dirt bike track onto the road course,
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  like near tree turn or something.
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  I'm not tree turn, but the Forgotten turning.
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  Yeah, so it was it was pretty sweet.
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  That's sounds that these looks sweet, dude.
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  You you're I mean, I'm looking at some of these photos and and
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  these are like gt7. Like I'm I'm playing the game
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  and I'm pressing photo mode and this is what I see.
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  Like, these are amazing. You're an amazing photographer
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  do. Thank you.
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  Thank you. I didn't say that yet.
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  But yeah, so that's my that's my inspiration.
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  Like that's where I started. I had like GT6 in college and
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  really taking pictures, you know?
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  Like you have you had like the ER 34 like the user 34 and stuff
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  like that, and that so you could take really cool, like drifting
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  photos with iconic cars. But it was in a video game.
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  Obviously, have you had the opportunity to play the new Gran
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  Turismo gt7? Now, not yet.
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  If you do, I think it would, I think you could find some
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  enjoyment. I personally did.
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  The photo mode has like Advanced.
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  There's a bunch of different things that you can change now
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  and wait, like taking photos and grandfather as well.
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  Yeah, like you can. That's like a thing.
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  Yeah, it's real meta. Yeah.
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  Kinda because you can still afford to drive in the game and
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  you still take pictures instead of driving isn't that wild,
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  what's weird or driving instead of like drifting in a video game
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  and set of drifting in real life or taking photos in a video game
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  instead of taking photos in real life, I don't know photos.
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  That's yeah. It is because it's like really
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  cool cars, but that you can't afford, like, Lexus LFA was my
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  go-to. Yeah.
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  I'm like, you drifting is pretty fucking expensive.
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  But taking, I mean Photography in general is probably expensive
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  too, but but it depends on how far you can use a one, a Carl's
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  cameras and he got oh, this. Yeah.
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  Yeah, I just thought it was ten dollars.
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  Yeah, so I got this at a thrift store because yeah, I looked at
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  it, I picked up a camera bag to the listeners.
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  I bought like really cheap like the digital camera.
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  And I picked up a camera bag and it was inside of it, but I guess
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  the difference is You can't just grab that camera and go take a
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  photo. Oh, hell no crazy car like you
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  can and no way ever, write whatever GTA GTA would be fun to
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  take photos in. But yeah, Grant is my I was
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  never a Grand Turismo player. No.
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  No. That was that was like, I mean I
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  it's cliche as it sounds like when I was a kid before I cared
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  about Imports at all. Yeah.
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  Like I thought the Nissan Skyline was a made up car.
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  Because it was in a video game just like all these cars that
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  I've never heard of, they're just made up like the Nissan
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  zafiro, the Nissan Skyline, the Toyota chaser, I'm like, these
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  are all just made up cars, did they?
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  They look really cool. I didn't even real, I didn't
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  know about those cars that makes sense.
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  I never grabbed it. I never, I would never gravitate
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  to like a chaser or anything like that because like when I
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  was a kid, I looked at it. And I was like, oh, four door
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  sedan like, and then now I'm like, oh fuck.
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  Four-door sedan for me, the weird thing was like, if
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  especially with the skyline, right?
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  They had like, 15 different versions of the skyline in Gran
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  Turismo. And you're like, what is the
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  difference between the two point five, RS, and the 2.5 GTS and
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  the two? Yeah, you're like why are there
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  so many and now you're like oh my God.
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  I just want to. I just want a garage full of all
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  these III it more for sure. Absolutely.
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  They had all those car. No, that's what I'm saying is
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  like, they don't they don't. Well, the newer Grand tourism
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  was they don't really have that nearly as much, but back in the
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  day, like Grand Turismo 3 or 2. Gran Turismo 2 definitely or
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  three had like a buck load in the used car lot.
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  Hmm. And they would change like every
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  day, like you would didn't six too.
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  That's why I got it. Yeah, I don't think I've ever
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  had all the Legacy models. Come back.
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  There is 1,000 cars in that game.
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  Fuck. I might go buy a copy.
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  Yeah shit. What year is that?
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  You all talking about that game came out in 2018, I think 2014.
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  Well, I'm talking like the original or whatever you oh two
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  is 90 two is whale. Like I played the greatest hits
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  version of that game but Gran Turismo 2 was sick because like
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  you're you're correct. They're literally I'm gonna use
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  the skyline as any as an example.
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  Again that would be like literally a buttload of like
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  Skyline trims and they would, and they would vary in power,
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  like rb20de. Because it's a, it's a, it's a
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  Skyline. GT.
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  Just GTS GTS. I had an N64 think about, I
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  still haven't answered about all the skyline models, you know,
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  and they were all there, it's crazy.
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  Every single one, that's 400 R, like they were all my roommate
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  would tell me like, you would go online and then there were just
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  be like this fucking Godly car because they got it in the used
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  car. Lot at popped up one day and
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  then now I just kind of remember that.
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  Yep. Forza I like, for like you did
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  the Yankees hyper S15 in the used car.
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  Lot on Forza. Yeah.
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  Good win. It was a unicorn car.
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  But is that like cars that people modify and put up know
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  remember that was a thing there like unicorns.
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  So you know you can't buy them in the game but you have they'll
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  offer you to buy it like in the store like interesting.
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  Yeah, yeah. Oh, there were like five or six
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  of them but one of them was the HKS S15 and I got.
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  That's the one. Yeah, yeah, I seen I remember
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  that. I loved Forza for drifting more.
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  Not like drifting, I learned how to drift from Forza 4 Gran
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  Turismo. Know, really not like literally,
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  but so, yeah, I did. Yes.
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  Same What game, what game? I was a forward even drifted in
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  my life, but I learned how to drift in Forza 4 Motorsport.
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  So, you think, if we put you in a car, you're good, no, 100%.
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  I know Malcolm would be good because it's pretty much good at
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  anything. I had him drift.
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  I had the s13 hatch. Welcome, Malcolm said that we I
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  let him try that. No Malcolm did some Malcolm did
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  some donuts. I I had him.
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  This is how I this is how I told him it.
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  I told her to him, I just do it immediately.
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  Yes, yeah, he would Mount Scott. Malcolm has this tendency to
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  fucking be good at random shit immediately.
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  Yeah, it annoys me every time I'm like, I'll see something
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  something. Now, like something I've never
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  done and I'm like, Malcolm probably good at that.
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  Yeah. But I had Malcolm drive around
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  in a circle, like literally just drive it.
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  And then I said, all right for it.
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  And then it came out. Yeah.
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  And then I was like did you feel that?
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  Like and then he did it again. I think I just had you let go of
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  the wheel. Yeah.
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  And then the next one, he just grabbed the wheel and then I'm
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  like and then you know it's going like this and then we're
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  doing circles like immediately. Yeah.
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  I was like wow, that took a while for me like Yeah.
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  I mean some people are good at everything.
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  It's annoying doesn't count. No, no, you mentioned you drove.
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  Whoa. First phone call ever.
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  Our lines are hot everybody. Know, we're kidding.
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  No, don't be funny. Don't make me, don't make me
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  fucking how this like, open the fucking phone line can do that.
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  Like, we can do that in the future.
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  Like, well, we'll put that in our back, but we don't have the
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  episode dedicated to that. Yeah, we could do that in the
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  future. That's like the Q&A episode
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  though. Yeah, literally.
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  Hey, I'm down with that, of course.
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  Yeah. So no.
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  But you mentioned you drove early.
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  What do you what are you drive G35?
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  G35. How many fucking car you got,
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  Man? 3, you have multiple I brother?
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  Yes. Frankie he got a Mustang.
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  Yeah EcoBoost six. Oh no oh no what do you mean?
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  Oh no oh the only four cylinder turbo six feet.
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  You can buy actually That is the real Mustang though manual
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  Drive. I know there's just something
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  about it in The Stang though I can't get over that.
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  I know I listen, you like it because it's a four banger
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  turbo. Yeah.
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  And also it's a good-looking car.
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  It is yeah. Good looking car.
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  That's the thing. Take the whole Mustang nameplate
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  out of, that's different. I love it.
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  And and that's why I bought the EcoBoost, it's not a 50, okay,
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  but I'll stop. I'll stop you right now.
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  How much does it weigh? How 4000 pounds.
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  Okay, we're done. I think we're done with really.
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  I mean, that's every new car, dude.
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  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no BRZ.
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  All right, I do like the gr86 hunter, 190 horsepower, cool.
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  I think it's too tall. Take 190 horsepower at 2700
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  pounds over and no boost dude. What does it make?
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  What is your Carmen 3:30? 3:30 at the crank.
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  Yeah, at the crank 4000 pounds. Stop.
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  That's probably still fun. Frankie just shit on our guests.
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  That's fucking. I'm sorry.
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  I get it, but I guess you don't have any other options, right?
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  What are you gonna buy today? Turbo rear wheel drive.
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  Yeah, wait, there's more cars. Hold on.
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  There's fucking none digests. Yeah, great.
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  Oh okay. Okay.
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  In a battle versus a Hyundai Genesis and a Mustang I would
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  rather have the Mustang. You know, what's so sad about
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  that car? It's actually a good car, the
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  Hyundai Genesis. It's a Hyundai car though.
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  There's okay, I've seen a few drifting at Club loose.
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  There's one. That is red one.
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  Yeah. That drips there and it's a two
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  liter that was the first time I saw Hyundai drifting and then I
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  curiously went to Copart know, check them out with a minute,
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  but quite expensive. Those things used to blow the
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  engines doing donuts in parking lots, really, there's videos
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  online, it's a problem, it's the quality control.
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  Some of them will go forever but that's a four b11.
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  I heard that's the Evo engine. It's got Evo stuff.
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  Is it really? Yeah I heard it's the same
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  engine. I don't know like How much of it
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  is? Well, did you did you know, in a
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  Mitsubishi or sorry? Mitsubishi, Eclipse.
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  Shares a motor with a Hyundai Sonata.
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  I don't know, new equipment, know the old one, but all the
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  clips was a 4G 6th Street. They are like they the Hyundai
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  engines and the Evo engines are like kind of Legos a little bit
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  more of my buddies was building one and he had like the head
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  from a Hyundai Sonata that. Yeah, makes it like a 2.3 or
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  something like yes that's what it is.
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  Put a stroker kit in it it's like super weird.
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  Literally, the block would be from a single know, that doesn't
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  make any sense. All right, so educate me more on
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  the Ford. Let's hear what do you like
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  about it? I mean, it's just what kind of
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  difficult in the back, you know, in car so it's comfortable air
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  works. The heat works, you have carplay
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  and it's got a stereo with a 10 inch sub.
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  Oh you know so I that's why I got you tired of caring about my
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  daily like that like I'm just not worry about it you know.
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  But I have the G and the Z for things that I have to worry
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  about. So you have a g and disease, the
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  Mustang and his E. Yeah I have the z32 the twin
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  turbo. Yeah.
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  And he The GI cloned. A Japanese Pursuit.
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  I told you. I knew it.
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  What? What else?
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  Bring him like. Because you came by the booth.
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  I was like, why is that guy look familiar.
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  You see the guy that owns the patrol G35, right?
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  Yes, yours. Yeah.
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  He's, I don't know. He has his e32.
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  I'm like, I don't know. Yet the windscreen.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Like a patrol car. Yeah.
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  Like a Japanese patrol car. Wait, or that's your car?
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  What the fuck? Oh, yeah.
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  That Evergreen. Before time I did.
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  Yeah. Five offense this year.
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  I think, yeah, I see you there before a few times.
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  Holy shit. I only drove once but they're on
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  my Instagram there's a couple of them but I just thought it was a
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  photo you were taking. Yeah shit.
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  That's yeah that thing's fun. Yeah for sure I hate you shred
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  dude. Nice.
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  Not know that. That was you.
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  What the fuck? Yeah.
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  Dude that thing is sick. Yeah.
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  Very creative. I like execution.
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  It's be like beautifully executed.
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  Yeah, I've seen a lot of people try to do the Japanese patrol
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  car and I think you executed pretty well.
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  It's so it's the windscreen to win.
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  Nobody for me. Yeah, like, wow.
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  That's where the fuck. Do you buy that?
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  I have laser cutters at work, so, I actually you made that.
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  Yeah, I made it. And I had to use like a photo
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  online of the patrol car, to kind of get the general shape,
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  and then scaled it to the hood, and I got the brackets from
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  Home. Depot fire, I love it even more.
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  It's riff noted into the hood, too.
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  I like little things like that, though.
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  Props to you, for, for being like, Just make that shit.
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  Yeah. It's it comes in bursts.
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  It comes with it comes in bursts of huge creativity and major
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  depression. It's like right?
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  Oh yeah. Just like juxt.
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  You're you're at the right podcast.
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  Damn Carl. Sorry.
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  But the whole thing with me is like if I buy first of all, you
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  know, everything's getting so expensive.
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  So this he was between and you guys are gonna cry when you hear
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  this. But I worked with an importer
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  and I had two cars that I was looking at and it was between my
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  Z 32 and a Sylvia Hughes with a CA 1840 to do.
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  But was it that color when you bought it pink know it's black.
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  Okay, cuz I was like this looks kind of Japanese.
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  So, looks like some colors, it was bone stock, it was a bone
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  stock and a five-speed. So it's you, you mentioned.
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  It's twin turbo now. It's still VG.
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  Yes, vg30. Nice.
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  The turbos are it's a greddy turbo kit and they're so.
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  They're really rare. I remember you talking about,
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  get ready for a story. So I bought that kit and kin in
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  Connecticut from a guy, the turbos are incredibly oversized.
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  They're they're Forced Performance 20g Hybrid tdo, 6
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  turbos. So they're, they're really oh,
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  six is kind of big? Yeah, it's big when you have two
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  of them. Yeah, I was gonna say you too.
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  So and the kit I didn't inspect the kit when I bought it.
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  I was just soaked. I was like a granny kit.
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  This is crazy. It had everything.
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  I have the wastegates. Do they not make that animals
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  everything? Yeah.
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  No, they don't anymore. And I had it all restored, you
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  know, powder, coated, all that stuff.
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  And then I noticed that there was like a ton of cracks like so
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  many cracks in the manifolds. So You know welding them all up.
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  Put them in the car. They cracked again.
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  Oh third time out though. Gussets were put in Brackets
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  were put in so the turbos are mounted to the engine because
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  they just hang from these. Yeah stainless steel manifolds.
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  You know yeah, all that stuff nice and you know knock wood
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  it's it's been okay. I haven't been like hard
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  tracking the car but you know, that's pretty sick Howard.
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  Does it make it made 406? So it had a building engine in
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  it. That didn't work out for
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  reasons, the engine was Bill great but You know didn't work
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  out. So ended up putting an NA in it
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  with with twins that. So Andy over at Freedom tuned
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  it. Yeah.
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  He Tunes our cars, too. Yeah.
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  And it was, it's makes 12 PSI four or six wheel.
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  Three, 84 and apparently tons of timing left.
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  But I'm not, I'm not trying to push that.
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  The engine is the same as the twin turbo.
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  So I was going to ask that horse rods, really?
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  Yeah. Wow.
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  Yeah, I told you that version. Yeah.
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  It's the compression is different.
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  I told him that was the best assistant.
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  I know they're different interesting.
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  Yeah, wow. It's got open wastegate.
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  So it sounds different than most C's had TJ over at one motion.
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  Yeah. Did a medical stainless exhaust
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  on it so it's got a it's got a central tube instead of true
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  duals and in my opinion it's just the smooth.
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  I was about to ask. Does that kit come with external
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  wastegates? Yeah.
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  That's pretty sick, too. It's sweet.
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  Photo the engine bay. I never mind.
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  You know what? Don't even show me that because
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  I it's a z. So yeah, well I mean they look
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  cool, yes. See anything under there, right?
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  I can't see the turbos. I personally love that body on
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  that car. I am a big fan.
• 18:42
  Of course, it was just so ahead of its time, like, the way that
• 18:45
  it was styled. If you think about it, like,
• 18:47
  they'll get the front end, right?
• 18:49
  Those lights are are Awesome touch.
• 18:53
  Like it was very Lamborghini esque right?
• 18:56
  From that point are the opposite.
• 18:59
  They bought those from Nissan. Yeah, the Diablo right?
• 19:01
  Yeah, Diablo. Yeah, but lifty upload really, I
• 19:05
  thought it was done other way around.
• 19:06
  First one had pop-ups. Wow.
• 19:09
  But so that's an 89 that's what the build the bill data that car
• 19:13
  is. If you look at 89 Arc 7 it looks
• 19:16
  like a like an 86 or a z31 you know.
• 19:19
  So like that's what was on the market.
• 19:20
  Nissan Came Out Swinging with the skyline in the z32.
• 19:23
  Yeah, I think was same year. So the GTR the R32 GTR in this
• 19:28
  car as a twin turbo or both. You know, I can't believe they
• 19:32
  must how much money did they have to burn?
• 19:34
  Yeah, at least two insane sports cars, they were doing good in
• 19:39
  the Motorsports world. Yeah, Motorsports back.
• 19:41
  Then a lot of money was being focused and honed in on.
• 19:44
  And there wasn't any like restrict not.
• 19:47
  Especially there were restrictions were in place there
• 19:51
  were restrictions but they weren't, like, nearly what we
• 19:53
  have. Well, let's talk about the ones
• 19:55
  in Japan where they are. Oh yeah, they all make 276
• 19:57
  horsepower. Oh, they even back then
• 19:59
  officially. Yeah.
• 20:00
  Are 32 GTR. This the Supra.
• 20:03
  They all are seven. That happened in like, Late 90s.
• 20:07
  Apparently, there were D tuned to make less power.
• 20:09
  Yes. So they can all sell it.
• 20:11
  Yeah, yeah. And then you just threw a boost
• 20:13
  controller on it. Oh yeah.
• 20:14
  I know. Reverse what it is.
• 20:17
  They put in place. You hit 400 horsepower on the
• 20:19
  stock shows. No.
• 20:21
  No. With the 85, the ceramic, I
• 20:23
  think. Yeah.
• 20:24
  You have to go like a ton of boost, you know, and that's
• 20:28
  fine. Those turbos aren't any dirty.
• 20:30
  I don't think the z302 twins for high boost.
• 20:34
  They probably were the R32 ones, really?
• 20:37
  Yeah. That was a twin turbo too.
• 20:39
  People forget that as well, but the ceramic wheel though.
• 20:43
  Yeah, they had them on the, I know.
• 20:44
  That's the part. That's fragile.
• 20:46
  Yeah, so with the one. I don't know, man.
• 20:48
  I think those turbos were fine. I mean, people still use them.
• 20:52
  Yeah, I'd fucking use them. Yeah.
• 20:53
  Raise the boost on those cars. All the time I made like 300 at
• 20:57
  the wheel, but it's got what up, what kids had a terrible.
• 21:00
  So if you go on my Instagram, I have photos of it before.
• 21:03
  I put that kit before, I had the car wrap.
• 21:07
  So tailored wraps did that? That's actually a wrap.
• 21:09
  It cost some color that she and I came up with, but that is the
• 21:14
  front end from the final flag, demo car.
• 21:17
  Which is kind of cool. So final flag was like, Just a
• 21:22
  fiberglass shop, you know, like, okay, so it's like a one-off
• 21:26
  know. Well, that I mean, that's the
• 21:28
  original one. So it's a one-off in my mind,
• 21:31
  but they did, they still make them but it's it's this typical
• 21:37
  Japanese way of. It's gonna be incredibly
• 21:39
  expensive. It's going to be incredibly
• 21:40
  expensive to ship. You got a year, yeah, in Japan.
• 21:44
  There's a ton of them. Like, I've seen, I've seen quite
• 21:47
  a few cars with that, with that kit.
• 21:48
  They do like a full kit with spats.
• 21:50
  And so this is a complete kit, not on my car, but the front end
• 21:54
  and fenders are theres a baumax skirts.
• 21:58
  A company called explode, the rear bumper.
• 22:02
  I guess I don't have pictures of it before.
• 22:04
  Oh, maybe I do in my Flickr. Actually, we're on the Z page.
• 22:08
  Well, album scroll to the bottom.
• 22:13
  Now, you don't drift everything right.
• 22:15
  So yes, so that's that's what it looked like before.
• 22:17
  So it's got a June Auto Hood, too.
• 22:19
  That I'm kind of proud of that one.
• 22:21
  I don't think many of those were made.
• 22:22
  I love that hood. Thank you.
• 22:24
  Yeah. That's my favorite part of that
• 22:26
  car. And then I have the bomax type
• 22:30
  one. Here's do you.
• 22:32
  What do you drift this thing? No.
• 22:34
  Okay. I was gonna say it's a little.
• 22:36
  Now the the parts the Rarity of the parts I'm like I don't know
• 22:41
  if he does but I'm gonna ask anyway.
• 22:43
  Alexis Villa, says z32. Very good motor.
• 22:47
  Yeah, and they are good. I think that's the best engine
• 22:50
  tell Alex that he needs to start driving again.
• 22:53
  Oh, he heard you, don't worry. Yeah.
• 22:56
  I miss him driving man. He never does wild.
• 22:58
  Everyone? Why special Josh?
• 23:02
  It's actually it. I was watching watching you guys
• 23:04
  drive it. Low style.
• 23:05
  Was one of my favorite ever? Yeah.
• 23:07
  I was gonna talk about that too. Because I saw photos from that.
• 23:09
  I don't remember that event much.
• 23:11
  Yeah, I bow Moon, open them up. I like, I have all your memories
• 23:15
  stored on there. Yeah, right.
• 23:16
  Let me see. The thing is like, I remember.
• 23:20
  I remember that my car was just not working.
• 23:24
  That's probably why I got a picture of you with him though.
• 23:26
  Is that the photo that's like my cover photo?
• 23:29
  Maybe, I don't know. That's twice 2017, right?
• 23:33
  Yeah, in my passing it. I saw it in here.
• 23:37
  I think it's actually. Somewhere, take a lot of photos,
• 23:43
  man. Yeah, this is, I like that.
• 23:45
  It's very organized. He's not every event.
• 23:47
  It's just like back up. You know what I mean?
• 23:49
  Like I just try to with the year like on it.
• 23:52
  Like that is just Pleasing to the eye.
• 23:55
  Yeah, at least it's organized. That's weird.
• 23:57
  I did. That.
• 24:02
  He found a Christmas. You're getting there.
• 24:04
  I remember the order of the events too.
• 24:07
  There it is. Yep.
• 24:09
  Yes, so that photo that cover photo in that album is one of my
• 24:12
  all-time favorite photos. He was so down to just like,
• 24:16
  Like he knew how stoked we all were that he was here and was so
• 24:20
  down to just like ham it up for everybody.
• 24:22
  Yeah. If you asked him for a photo or
• 24:24
  anything like to rev the engine, like he that car hit limiter
• 24:29
  more stationary than it did drifting.
• 24:31
  Yeah. During that event, he was having
• 24:33
  a blast. Yeah, so that's something he
• 24:36
  does all the time. You just revving it to the Moon,
• 24:39
  I mean, to the album. Like this is the first time in
• 24:43
  America. It might have been a short time.
• 24:44
  Yeah. America.
• 24:45
  And he had his own car. His own car.
• 24:47
  Yeah. That is a wild concept to me and
• 24:50
  he probably didn't pay for shit like it's awesome.
• 24:52
  You shipped a car over. So you can like rip with some us
• 24:57
  homies. Like, One, that's not cheap.
• 25:00
  Maybe back then it was a lot cheaper know.
• 25:03
  This was in, it is not cheap West Virginia.
• 25:06
  Where what regular? Yeah, Shannon dawa.
• 25:10
  Oh, yeah. So who actually got up and went
• 25:15
  over here. Was, it was a mastermind.
• 25:16
  Oh, Mastermind? And and valina.
• 25:19
  There's a zestino. Just one of those.
• 25:27
  I didn't even eat one of those, bro.
• 25:30
  I don't know. What.
• 25:33
  Yeah. Frankie's about to eat a Mochi
• 25:36
  Donut, for the first time, here we go first tangent.
• 25:38
  Oh, my second one. Yeah I'm curious.
• 25:43
  Oh you haven't had one either. No.
• 25:45
  Frankie reserved himself. What happened one?
• 25:48
  Wow. Look at those never mind.
• 25:50
  Who did that? I know.
• 25:52
  Chris. Did I like the little stamp?
• 25:54
  I like, when people do stuff like that, there's that little
• 25:58
  craft. Yeah, it looks like a stamp to
• 25:59
  me. Hi Suites.
• 26:00
  It's it's an Edgewater at Mitsuwa.
• 26:03
  Oh, hell yeah. I was just there last night.
• 26:06
  These were gift. Those photos at behind.
• 26:10
  Mitsu always slap different one. Is there.
• 26:12
  You don't want the real one? No, I guess I'll eat it.
• 26:14
  All right, I guess I'll eat it. Try to cut back, man.
• 26:17
  Oh, there's Fred lump lumps car. Oh boy, you know, who probably
• 26:21
  doesn't know about that story. Carl probably doesn't.
• 26:23
  I don't actually you don't. Where do you want to start?
• 26:26
  Right at the beginning? Give me all the dirt.
• 26:29
  It's a long one. It's so long.
• 26:31
  It's like the it's like the T-Pain story.
• 26:33
  It's that but like you know, him too.
• 26:38
  I mean, what the fuck are they gonna fucking arrest legendary?
• 26:43
  Last big hit. Yeah, that was a common chat by
• 26:47
  Mike. The Fresco.
• 26:50
  The fucking Mike has a 3000 GT drift car a drift car?
• 26:55
  That's a 3000 GT. Yeah.
• 26:56
  What the power plant. It's the 6G.
• 27:00
  What? Twin turbo.
• 27:01
  The sideways one. Yeah.
• 27:03
  So the power goes like all over the place.
• 27:05
  Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome.
• 27:08
  Yeah, I'm gonna find our photos of that.
• 27:10
  All right, story time, let's go. Yes.
• 27:12
  So Fred Lump Lump was like, was in Winston.
• 27:15
  Oh, and he scammed a bunch of people like took money.
• 27:19
  It was the same. I mean, it's kind of like what's
• 27:21
  going on right now, if you know what's going on right now.
• 27:23
  It's that's what happened there with T-Pain on the west coast
• 27:26
  know, with Spirit. Oh, we're getting some tea right
• 27:29
  now. Now we're not gonna, I'm not
• 27:30
  gonna go into it. Yeah, I know more than the
• 27:32
  average bear about that and I'm not gonna Not for me.
• 27:36
  But yeah for anybody else who's willing to hop onto that train
• 27:39
  you guys? You guys can take care of that
• 27:41
  but yes, always say allegedly, you know, he sold, he sold.
• 27:46
  Do you remember, he had that he had that jcx 100 that he was
• 27:50
  selling. And it's gone.
• 27:52
  No one knows where that is. He he went to Mexico and then
• 27:55
  was abducted. Oh, okay.
• 27:59
  See, I was gone for months. I remember, wife was like,
• 28:02
  please, we need money because money will solve the situation,
• 28:05
  and then he came back and everybody was like, oh, you're
• 28:09
  back. Where is all the money?
• 28:10
  And he's like, what money? Wait wait, there was a GoFundMe,
• 28:13
  right? Yeah, yeah, like I was like my
• 28:16
  husband's missing. I wondered what this was.
• 28:19
  I honestly just didn't pay it anymore.
• 28:20
  Yeah, interesting. Now when you're there, I mean
• 28:23
  the funny thing is, if you commented on Matt Petty story.
• 28:26
  Every every like couple months it'll resurface it has like he
• 28:30
  has a comment thread on his Facebook.
• 28:31
  That's like thousands of comments deep.
• 28:33
  And every once in a while, someone will see it and just
• 28:36
  like, so what's going on with Fred Lump Lump these days?
• 28:39
  Wait a minute, this is the, I just saw the chat.
• 28:42
  This is the filtered piss guy. Oh yeah, that's we didn't get
• 28:46
  there yet so I can get there. Yeah, sorry.
• 28:48
  Sorry. That the late, that's late
• 28:50
  stage, that's late. Stage lump on allegedly.
• 28:53
  Obviously. He comes back and he's like,
• 28:55
  listen guys. Thank God.
• 28:57
  God saved me and in time, you will all know why.
• 29:02
  Oh yeah, like SEMA or something and he said, like don't worry.
• 29:08
  Yeah, something's coming. It'll come out.
• 29:10
  It's all gonna come out guys and then spoiler alert, nothing came
• 29:14
  out. It was just quiet.
• 29:16
  And then he made an Instagram like a couple years ago.
• 29:20
  I think about drinking like the benefits of drinking your own
• 29:24
  piss. You're making, that is 100.
• 29:29
  True. You don't know.
• 29:30
  You're making that up. It's a YouTube video.
• 29:34
  What are the benefits? Literally on Instagram.
• 29:38
  Let everybody explode. He's got a YouTube channel.
• 29:43
  What are the benefits? It's Sterling.
• 29:46
  I like yeah, you can dodge wrenches when I think the last
• 29:50
  time it was like sub 3400 subscribers.
• 29:52
  Yeah. I mean, it can't be that many
• 29:55
  people that drink their own piss.
• 29:56
  There's probably more than you would think I would.
• 29:59
  Yeah, I agree with that is day and age.
• 30:02
  Ron would not be surprised, not gonna lie but Okay, so that's
• 30:06
  not made up. No no it's it's all real he
• 30:10
  really does. You can't write you can't write
• 30:11
  real life and oh there's a video on YouTube.
• 30:14
  It was like me coming out to my family about.
• 30:17
  Drinking pits. Yes.
• 30:20
  Do you know those Iceberg Maps? Know.
• 30:24
  Yeah, like as you go deeper, you can figure out how deep into a
• 30:30
  subject. You Are by like the levels.
• 30:32
  Yeah, love is like, right at the bottom of thrifting.
• 30:35
  Like, if like American drifting, the top is like FD and hoonigan
• 30:39
  and the bottom of his, like, Lump Lump.
• 30:41
  Yeah. Like, you know, like yeah.
• 30:44
  What are some other good ones. Damn.
• 30:45
  So, but the best meme I saw recently was the Four Horsemen
• 30:49
  of drifting. Oh, yeah, Spirit him and two
• 30:53
  other. Oh, the guy who fucked over
• 30:54
  T-Pain. Yeah.
• 30:55
  And then another guy, I didn't know, Oh yeah there's like a guy
• 31:01
  that crashes S2000 and then like his.
• 31:02
  Yeah if anyone saw that Meme, The Four Horsemen a drifting and
• 31:06
  it was all the people that fucked everyone over.
• 31:07
  If you know who the fourth person was, please let us know.
• 31:09
  Because we don't know who's Frankie boofeenaa.
• 31:11
  I looked it up but it was somebody.
• 31:12
  I didn't know. Yeah, I'd like to know what.
• 31:15
  Okay, wait, so what came of the filtered pitched pissed stuff?
• 31:19
  We stopped watching this shit? So then then, at that point, I
• 31:22
  feel like people were like, that was okay.
• 31:23
  It was like, he looked like he just come out of like a swamp.
• 31:26
  His hair was like all crazy and he's just like fat and gross.
• 31:29
  That doesn't make me want to drink my own urine.
• 31:33
  He literally looked like he's soaked his head and pissed.
• 31:35
  Have you ever pissed yourself Frankie?
• 31:37
  Just myself. You're a piece of before I feel
• 31:40
  like I had not as a baby. I don't have a memory of that
• 31:43
  not as a baby. Everybody has about what in the
• 31:46
  bed is the same. Oh, if you talk about wedding, I
• 31:49
  that's all the time. All the time, not still dead
• 31:56
  ass. Yeah.
• 31:58
  I feel like I'm, you said, you did.
• 31:59
  I used to pissed the bed? A lot?
• 32:01
  No, but we're not talking for fun.
• 32:03
  Yeah. Why would you still do it for
• 32:05
  fun? You say no me that earlier know
• 32:07
  he said he's shit himself earlier know.
• 32:10
  That's what you said Carl. Well I feel like everybody's
• 32:12
  pooped himself. Let's hear a car.
• 32:13
  Oh you know you got no. No, you can't do this.
• 32:20
  What that shit myself. What are?
• 32:23
  You know I said I shit myself not everybody though.
• 32:26
  You're like I feel like everybody's done.
• 32:28
  No no question for you. I mean like I mean like so no I
• 32:31
  mean like as an infant like you're an in diapers.
• 32:33
  Yeah you're shooting yourself but I mean like you're talking.
• 32:36
  I mean like I mean like as I'm you remember a situation.
• 32:40
  Where it inconvenience to you that you shit yourself, okay?
• 32:44
  Like you remember it you're not upset if someone had shit
• 32:48
  themselves as an adult and doesn't remember it.
• 32:50
  It could happen Tequila's. A hell of a fucking drug.
• 32:53
  I almost shit myself two weeks ago.
• 32:55
  We're talking like sober. Okay yeah, yes Sober Sober 100.
• 32:58
  Yeah don't sober. You just fail that managing your
• 33:02
  okay. Didn't make it to the bathroom.
• 33:05
  Okay, I want to hike the second I get in the woods.
• 33:08
  I'm like fuck. I fucked up and a bathroom was
• 33:11
  locked. I remember when I went when I
• 33:12
  came in, you're in the woods though and I was like, you know
• 33:15
  what, man, I think I could make it, I took three steps.
• 33:17
  I was like I'm not making it so I got like a little deep in You
• 33:21
  know what, I had to Nature Calls so I had, you know, take care on
• 33:24
  a main trail on a main trail. You definitely did not walk far
• 33:27
  enough. Did you dig a hole?
• 33:30
  At least I know you did. Not.
• 33:32
  You motherfukers out the way. Yeah.
• 33:36
  A little ridiculous and I have shit myself.
• 33:39
  I was in ready. I was in the second grade.
• 33:42
  Okay, it was a new school. Oh, I was in second grade was
• 33:47
  the most traumatic moment in my life and mind you.
• 33:49
  I've never shot myself after this ever again.
• 33:52
  I promise Mom, that's a good age to learn second grade.
• 33:55
  Yeah, no. And here's the thing that's like
• 33:58
  I had been asking to go to the bathroom.
• 34:00
  I'm like Miss pertin. Oh please.
• 34:04
  I'm trying to go to the bathroom and everything.
• 34:06
  That was a traumatic experience. It was for me, it was a new
• 34:09
  school here. And bro, like she just wouldn't
• 34:12
  call me bro. My hand is up in the air, like
• 34:14
  I'm like, please. And then eventually, she lets me
• 34:17
  go to the bathroom. I go to the bathroom.
• 34:18
  I get installed. I'm literally about a pull my
• 34:21
  pants down, and it just shit all over the place in my pants.
• 34:25
  So then now, as a kid, I learned the Carl luck early on, by the
• 34:29
  way. That was the start, that was the
• 34:30
  start of it because he's, I had to make a decision what to do.
• 34:35
  What am I gonna do? Am I gonna clean this up right
• 34:38
  now? As an adult.
• 34:39
  Now, I would just ditch all my pants and make a difference and
• 34:42
  make pants out of toilet paper or something, but I put my pants
• 34:46
  back on and went to the classroom know to call a teacher
• 34:50
  to have me. Go back to go down to the
• 34:52
  nursery. That was fucking ridiculous.
• 34:58
  It was such a dramatic experience for me, the rest of
• 35:01
  my class knew that I did that shit for the rest of my entirety
• 35:04
  at that school. Fashion fucking hurt, haha.
• 35:07
  No pun intended, dude. Chat is loving this right now.
• 35:11
  One, Sean Michael Karl sounds. So proud.
• 35:14
  It make Carl sounds like he's been Carl's been waiting.
• 35:19
  A long time to tell the story. I have no before I on just as
• 35:24
  usual. I asked Frank, I'm telling a
• 35:25
  good story and Frankie Goes stop.
• 35:29
  Say it on the podcast, you know. That was it.
• 35:31
  That was it? Oh, that was it.
• 35:32
  I didn't even tell the story because you told me I thought it
• 35:35
  was gonna be something that happened like recently.
• 35:38
  Know if you're just Scott literally just said, like, I'm
• 35:42
  hoping that you would remember if you did shit at this age.
• 35:45
  I like that. You held it for Frankie until a
• 35:47
  specific, right? Yeah.
• 35:48
  Yeah. There was something about that
• 35:50
  moment between 200 like, yo, this is time.
• 35:52
  It's time for the shit story for second grade.
• 35:54
  I've been saving for Frankie since I go it was the pistol
• 35:58
  filter. Oh, we're talking about bodily
• 36:00
  fluids. I was like here I want to hear
• 36:01
  Malcolm shit story but you yes, but I was unconscious.
• 36:06
  What doesn't count? Wait wait what?
• 36:09
  So what sleeping? All right, hear me out it all
• 36:15
  started. Went to a, you know, going out
• 36:19
  to eat. Yeah let's open Sushi closes at
• 36:22
  9:00. Got there at 8:45 revolving
• 36:25
  sushi. Fuck.
• 36:26
  It's the last piece of sushi up there.
• 36:28
  That's kind of old like a fuk at all.
• 36:30
  Eat it. Probably been there since 10:30,
• 36:32
  dude. Yeah, for the next.
• 36:36
  For the next seven days. My stomach, sounded like a
• 36:40
  verbal tune. Dude.
• 36:41
  It was so bad and I like it was wrenching pain.
• 36:46
  Like I couldn't even stand up alone, probably seven days.
• 36:49
  That's why you're so on Heaven day on day, six and nights on
• 36:53
  day six, I want to say it was day.
• 36:55
  Five or six laid down. Went to sleep.
• 36:58
  I was caught. Okay, here's the thing.
• 37:00
  Okay, College, my roommate was not there, were you kidding like
• 37:10
  this whole time or know like you, you could you for seven
• 37:12
  days? I it would be like it would be
• 37:14
  Little Squirts coming out. Like on the toilet, though, on
• 37:20
  the toilet, but this night. Dude, I thought I was farting
• 37:22
  all night. I woke up.
• 37:24
  It was It was kind of wet. Oh no.
• 37:28
  Is it bad? I was sleeping.
• 37:29
  I didn't know. Your body was like this one.
• 37:32
  I don't count that. I don't count what happens to
• 37:34
  you when you're out of control. Yeah, dude.
• 37:37
  Wear your shoes on or off. By what were your shoes on or
• 37:41
  off? I was sleeping.
• 37:42
  They were off. Yeah, that was your fault.
• 37:43
  Now, you know, now, you know, Frankie sleeps with his fucking
• 37:47
  shoes on what I was sleeping not, I don't got that.
• 37:52
  All right, so last time I shoot and yours is borderline too.
• 37:56
  I mean, you know, that was when you learned not to listen to
• 37:59
  Authority, but by the way, that on top of that it was it was it
• 38:02
  made, it was not clean. It was not like a lot, by the
• 38:07
  way, I was a messy shit. It was Sienna Brown.
• 38:09
  All over the place. It was dark.
• 38:11
  Wow, that All right, so a G35. All right Scott.
• 38:16
  So what was last time you should your pants?
• 38:18
  Never awesome. You, I think you give up this
• 38:23
  vibe that you're very well put together person and those
• 38:25
  people. I shit that's awesome.
• 38:28
  You do though not gonna lie. I'm getting that.
• 38:31
  I looked the Flickr album itself.
• 38:32
  Yeah okay. Not a lot of people can organize
• 38:36
  like that. That's me.
• 38:37
  Yeah, that's true though. Like I like to organize, that
• 38:40
  was beautiful that honestly made Frankie feel really good because
• 38:43
  he always likes to use years. I like organization.
• 38:46
  Yeah, he does. I mean I've been enjoying this
• 38:49
  shop and it's messy right now. Chris, how you feel about the
• 38:52
  shop right now? It's a disaster.
• 38:53
  Yeah, like it's Would you say it's a messy?
• 38:56
  It's been like, I don't feel comfortable Scott being here,
• 38:59
  messy, and he's got a camera with him.
• 39:01
  I can't. Oh yeah.
• 39:02
  Scott, I came in here. I went to go put a song on Ox on
• 39:06
  the computer out there. Oxford.
• 39:07
  I click it. You will never guess the song
• 39:10
  that they had on. They had Shania.
• 39:12
  Twain was the last search. Like, it was in the search bar.
• 39:15
  Oh, yeah. What's, what's song from Shania,
• 39:18
  Twain? Looks like we made.
• 39:19
  It looks like we made it. Well, actually fuk with us on
• 39:24
  heavily. Oh, my car by myself?
• 39:28
  Yeah. Well, this isn't my shop, my
• 39:31
  eyes. So, Literally have two
• 39:33
  employees. Well, they enjoyed it, too.
• 39:35
  I was actually Chris, that brought up.
• 39:37
  Well, we were listening to Taylor Swift by Loving, you was
• 39:41
  right by. Frankie request, not yet but
• 39:43
  there's a song that reminded me of that because she bites.
• 39:47
  Everyone's fucking shit. Oh, straight up straight up.
• 39:50
  Taylor's gonna hear this shit. You can hear.
• 39:51
  I don't care. She's so good Taylor.
• 39:54
  Swift's gonna write a song about you.
• 39:55
  It's all of the best. Yeah, literally that came before
• 39:58
  you and yeah I mean I probably still some shit before I mean
• 40:02
  okay it's design stuff. Probably in my opinion right now
• 40:06
  it's so hard like to be rarely do I hear?
• 40:09
  I'm like well that's the first time I've heard something like
• 40:12
  that before. Just song came on when we're
• 40:14
  listening to her full album and and I was like well that sounds
• 40:18
  like a different song and then that one and I was like, okay I
• 40:23
  guess we're just like writers and stuff like that.
• 40:25
  That's the other thing like never know who worked on what
• 40:28
  songs and like she even make her own music at this point.
• 40:30
  Probably not anymore. She probably hasn't gotten
• 40:32
  broken up with recently or something.
• 40:34
  I mean most major have songwriters or at least editors.
• 40:38
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 40:39
  But sometimes you see the list and Like, writers on the track
• 40:42
  and it's like 30 of them. What did you write?
• 40:44
  I would only need one writer. It would be milk.
• 40:46
  If you were in the room, when they were discussing it, you're
• 40:48
  a writer, I guess. Yeah, everybody's in their
• 40:51
  smoking blunts, in the studio, yo, pom, pom, pom, pom me on the
• 40:55
  list. Use a bla.
• 40:57
  You gotta use a b l. Uh, it's all short.
• 41:04
  Ariana makes your own music. All right.
• 41:06
  No, she does not. That's like the number one
• 41:09
  artist that probably doesn't. She get two songs that sends
• 41:12
  sounds similar. What are the two songs?
• 41:14
  Yeah. They're practically the same 34.
• 41:16
  35, that's my favorite one. Yeah, probably.
• 41:20
  It was the one with the Mac Miller.
• 41:24
  I was yeah, love the way and then the other good song was
• 41:28
  with Big Sean. Two dudes, that Big Sean.
• 41:33
  The river was the same. Is that the court progression?
• 41:37
  Nicki Minaj. I tried to do a Big Sean voice.
• 41:39
  Oh, I thought she does that song.
• 41:42
  On the note of originality though.
• 41:45
  I think that's something that you guys do really.
• 41:47
  Well are doing like your t-shirts and stuff like that.
• 41:50
  Hell yeah, all right. Well that's good.
• 41:51
  It's very it's got that it's got more of an American like field.
• 41:55
  I do try to add that a little bit.
• 41:57
  It's got that like yep, I'm glad you see that.
• 41:59
  Yeah, I fuck with that. Try to make it a little bit like
• 42:02
  it's your own thing. That's the most important part
• 42:04
  like if you're influenced by whatever.
• 42:06
  Yeah. As long as you make it your own,
• 42:08
  it doesn't matter. I mean there's some people out
• 42:10
  there that just straight up. If I if I if I hadn't more of a
• 42:15
  well I don't have any graphic designer right now.
• 42:17
  So I guess that's a good thing to say on the podcast too.
• 42:20
  If you're a graphic designer and you think you can handle what
• 42:23
  we're doing here, please let me know.
• 42:24
  Know, know know if you think you can deal with Frankie not too.
• 42:27
  Okay then inquire yeah I love the shirts too, with your cars
• 42:31
  on them but yeah we're going more towards with the next batch
• 42:34
  of stuff. I want to do is gonna be more
• 42:36
  like a classic American Speed Shop stuff but like mixed in
• 42:40
  with this, I fuck with that. We're just kind of like the
• 42:42
  hoodie. That one.
• 42:44
  Oh yeah, that design was kind of like that.
• 42:46
  Yeah. But Kind of.
• 42:50
  Yeah, I love the all. I love all of that.
• 42:52
  I like everything that you gonna do more stuff like that because
• 42:55
  we don't have a our graphic designer is kind of like took he
• 42:59
  took a break because he had a kid and everything.
• 43:00
  Yeah, he's been out of this for like a year now.
• 43:03
  So Uh, so we got to figure out something else, but yeah, if you
• 43:07
  can do graphic design, hit us up chat.
• 43:09
  Rafael always hard to find a graphic designer with the same
• 43:13
  mentality as we. Yeah, it's extremely hard, true.
• 43:15
  Yeah, yeah. I feel like, you know, there's
• 43:18
  always a difference when you try to translate your idea or
• 43:20
  something to somebody. I feel like it's the same with a
• 43:23
  photographer. Like, you're asking a
• 43:25
  photographer to take pictures. I'm sure you could be the same.
• 43:27
  What's your number one pet peeve thing.
• 43:29
  When do you do, do shoots for people or do you just strictly
• 43:32
  do events? I've done a couple shoots.
• 43:34
  I think the thing that bothers me the most and it's gonna
• 43:37
  sound. I guess some people want this
• 43:39
  but I hate when someone has no ideas like no.
• 43:43
  Oh like whatsoever, my car? Your own thing.
• 43:46
  Yeah, sure. Yeah.
• 43:47
  Like you do what you want and I'm just like yeah.
• 43:49
  So you showcase like everything not just like I'll take photos
• 43:53
  of the car but like if I can get some input it helps me.
• 43:56
  Because the car is not just the car but it's like the owner of
• 44:00
  the car. I would hate where the person's
• 44:01
  like wrong. Part of their personality.
• 44:03
  Yeah, yeah. Like the location like, if I'm
• 44:05
  in a different city and it's like I want to shoot your car
• 44:08
  like okay, do what you want. It's like you live here.
• 44:10
  Show me the cool places to shoot cars.
• 44:12
  You know what I mean? I guess we're gonna use your
• 44:13
  driveway like Oh you mean, you meant like right now?
• 44:16
  Like right here. Okay.
• 44:18
  Yeah, that's like trying to decide what to eat know you
• 44:21
  decide? No?
• 44:22
  You literally you, it's not that simple.
• 44:25
  Not that simple. Yeah, literally, but but it's
• 44:28
  your job and it's every time you do it.
• 44:31
  That's annoying. Oh, Well, if you do, like, I'm
• 44:35
  the opposite, I'd probably be like it.
• 44:36
  I'd probably have everything already planned.
• 44:38
  I'd have your angles already planned for you the opposite.
• 44:42
  Right? Where you still be like, yeah,
• 44:44
  yeah. Really satellite.
• 44:46
  You're very particular person though.
• 44:49
  Yeah. But I'm not that way with well,
• 44:51
  I'm not that way with photographers.
• 44:54
  So much videographers. I probably am.
• 44:56
  I because I probably already pictured everything.
• 44:58
  Yeah. And design work, I'm definitely
• 45:01
  not easy to work with but the thing is you're creative person.
• 45:04
  And that's that's kind of why? Yeah, I just can't put it on the
• 45:08
  but that's also why that all this stuff is so good.
• 45:10
  You know what I mean? And why you're you guys are
• 45:11
  successful? Yeah, as long as I can find
• 45:14
  someone who's like, okay, with like, like, I give him a
• 45:17
  generalized because usually what I do is I'll draw something out
• 45:20
  or I'll have, well, usually starts with A list of literally
• 45:24
  words or something. I need to find a theme and then
• 45:27
  I'll come up with some kind of design in my head.
• 45:31
  And then I'll just put it on an email, send it to him.
• 45:34
  He asked me some questions, sends it back in a rough draft
• 45:38
  form and then I'll just tell him like move that it is whatever.
• 45:42
  and it's easy that way, but some artists We'll just send you a
• 45:46
  full final thing and you're like, well, I fucking hate this.
• 45:49
  So now, what do you do? Yeah.
• 45:50
  You know, I mean and it sucks you have to, I mean, you have to
• 45:53
  specify that and usually ends up costing more.
• 45:56
  But I know that's kind of like, what happens when you build a
• 45:58
  car or anything where you have an idea of how you want it done.
• 46:01
  But you also don't have the time to execute it.
• 46:03
  Yeah. Usually ends up costing more
• 46:04
  money if you're cool with shit work then you can wait and just
• 46:08
  yeah shit money and then get a product back and you don't care
• 46:11
  and then you can just bounce it off your friends and yeah and
• 46:14
  stuff. But if you actually care about
• 46:16
  how it works, you either have to build it yourself.
• 46:18
  Or you have to pay out the ass for someone to build it the way
• 46:21
  you want it so far. We've been pretty lucky with the
• 46:23
  builds we've done because they usually just let us do
• 46:26
  everything. That's that's because they know
• 46:28
  that you guys have you do good work and they come here for
• 46:32
  that, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, you're the artist in
• 46:35
  that case. I think I never used it.
• 46:36
  I never viewed it like that. Yes, no, I was gonna say that
• 46:39
  earlier when when we were talking about you being very
• 46:42
  particular is that like a photographer is like Are craft.
• 46:46
  Okay? Building cars is like your
• 46:48
  craft, so you're gonna let that person do their craft.
• 46:50
  And that's why unless it's unless a designer is, like,
• 46:54
  fully knows that you're gonna be having some input or something
• 46:56
  afterward. I feel like that's like a
• 46:58
  research type of thing, like you got to find out if that person
• 47:01
  is okay to do that. I feel like a good example of
• 47:05
  this for people would be when you're getting a tattoo, you
• 47:08
  either let them do what they want to do, right?
• 47:10
  You don't and you like interject and you gotta find artists who
• 47:13
  are cool with that. Yeah as well.
• 47:15
  Because some some guys just want you to pick from their their
• 47:18
  Flash and just yeah. Do you just tell them something
• 47:21
  and they're like, I'll draw it up.
• 47:22
  Like, I remember watching like those shows like LA Ink and
• 47:25
  they'd walk in like, yeah, I'm thinking about something like
• 47:27
  this and then they would just go and draw full thing, show it to
• 47:31
  them and be like. So this is it and they're like,
• 47:34
  all right cool. And I'm like, I would never be
• 47:36
  that person. I'd be like, okay, now change
• 47:38
  this, this, this, this, this, this, this, and that's why I
• 47:40
  have no tattoos and welcome to my TED talk, right?
• 47:42
  Thanks for coming. Yes, same because, yeah, I
• 47:45
  can't. Commit.
• 47:45
  Well, some people are scared to change the way the Quote,
• 47:49
  unquote artist is thinking, you know what I mean?
• 47:52
  Well I feel like you need a you need to make that like you need
• 47:54
  to have that talk before it even starts.
• 47:56
  Yeah like and I probably did with my designer before we
• 47:59
  started and then after we did a bunch of them he already knew.
• 48:01
  So he would just sketch it out. Like if you if you could just
• 48:04
  sketch it out and send me it before you spent a lot of time
• 48:07
  that would be like that's perfect.
• 48:08
  Because then I can go back change things and not feel like
• 48:11
  a scumbag. Yeah.
• 48:12
  But when you send me a fully done image and now and now I
• 48:16
  have to be a dick. I do, one of two things, I
• 48:20
  either am a dick and I try to get them to change it because I
• 48:23
  see it. Maybe working out Or I pay him
• 48:26
  and I never use it. Which sucks even more.
• 48:28
  Yeah, I like that. You pay him still because they
• 48:31
  put some time. Oh yeah, I'm gonna pay him.
• 48:33
  It's my mistake. I picked the wrong artist,
• 48:34
  right? Straight up.
• 48:36
  So it's a working relationship. I mean that's yeah, that's just
• 48:39
  what it ends up being and that's also the difference between
• 48:41
  someone who's doing something as a passion versus someone who's
• 48:44
  doing something for work strictly.
• 48:46
  Yeah, people out there. Like you don't think of it.
• 48:48
  But graphic design is a job and there's some people who just
• 48:51
  learned it as a job. I know you tell those types.
• 48:54
  They were in artists and they got into more of like, I got a
• 48:58
  way to make money. Yeah.
• 48:58
  You know what I mean? And some people like there's
• 49:00
  people who aren't into cars that fix cars for a living and that
• 49:04
  blows my mind. Yeah.
• 49:05
  You know what I mean? It's just a job.
• 49:07
  I've never really thought about it.
• 49:08
  One of their options was a technical institute and they
• 49:11
  just went for that and they learned how to do it and that's
• 49:14
  it. They drive their, you know, in
• 49:16
  this thing on the subject for a minute.
• 49:18
  Do you do you know, a lot of people are like that mechanics.
• 49:24
  And I mean, like they're not into cars that don't care, just
• 49:27
  get the job done. Like he's saying like they they
• 49:30
  were like, I can get a job being a mechanic.
• 49:32
  So I'm gonna go to school, go, technical school.
• 49:34
  Learn how working cars? Yeah.
• 49:36
  I do know people. You do not know people like
• 49:38
  that, okay, because I don't know too many in automotive field.
• 49:42
  I know people that became that way.
• 49:44
  You are, ships are the perfect place to go.
• 49:46
  That's what I'm thinking of. That's what I'm saying.
• 49:48
  Like, I know. But like there's always a spark
• 49:51
  just because they're old now and they hate cars.
• 49:55
  Doesn't mean You know, there wasn't, that's true.
• 49:59
  But I know a couple of that got out of the field.
• 50:02
  Yeah. Because it's just not for them.
• 50:05
  That I see more like cars and then they're like, you know
• 50:08
  what? I'm friends from Lincoln Tech
• 50:10
  that I'm still friends with today that I found Instagram.
• 50:12
  I see they're doing different things now, I'm like, okay, I
• 50:15
  guess it just wasn't in the grid.
• 50:17
  Yeah, there's also those people that like went to Lincoln Tech
• 50:19
  because their parents made them go because they were doing
• 50:22
  anything. Yeah, exactly.
• 50:24
  So and then those people, I guess cars, you know what I
• 50:26
  mean? Yeah.
• 50:26
  Because cars are cool. You know, like people who aren't
• 50:29
  into cars, like cars cars are cool.
• 50:32
  One would be crazy to do something that Hands-On and not
• 50:36
  even be like remotely interested.
• 50:39
  Just a comment back on earlier with the whole artists coming.
• 50:43
  Um, there's a fine line between being elaborate and how you want
• 50:48
  something done and telling or telling that person how to do
• 50:52
  your job. That I don't like, you know I'm
• 50:55
  saying like yeah that and that can be that can be taken in by
• 50:59
  just the way that you're talking to them.
• 51:02
  Like you're not on a collaborative level.
• 51:04
  Right? Is what I'm saying?
• 51:05
  Like you're you're just dictating at that point, right?
• 51:08
  Which nobody likes does that happen to you before?
• 51:10
  What's that? Like someone's more more.
• 51:13
  So like dictating how you're working?
• 51:14
  Like, oh no. I want it from this angle.
• 51:15
  I want it from here. I want it.
• 51:16
  Um, or is it not? That's not particularly.
• 51:19
  I mean, I'm still in the hobby side of it.
• 51:21
  Yeah, I don't, I haven't really taken money for.
• 51:23
  Oh really. No.
• 51:25
  I mean, I think the only a couple people have ever offered.
• 51:28
  I shot Tanner months and his car for him when he sold it.
• 51:31
  Okay, give me 100 bucks and I was like, thanks man, that's
• 51:34
  awesome. You know, but you're not alone
• 51:36
  in this most photographers are like that.
• 51:38
  Yeah. But I just do it for fun.
• 51:40
  I mean, it's always been for fun and my first drift event, I had
• 51:43
  my camera with me. And I just kind of like, I just
• 51:47
  always like to take pictures of stuff growing up.
• 51:49
  You know, when I was like a kid, my dad bought, like one of the
• 51:51
  earliest digital cameras that came out.
• 51:53
  Yeah. We're talking like one of those
• 51:54
  things that that made pictures that were like You know 100 by
• 51:59
  100. You look at them.
• 52:02
  Now you try to look at them and it's just impossible because you
• 52:05
  need like a CRT Monitor. So that it fuzzles all the
• 52:09
  pixels together and holy crap. Yeah, really early.
• 52:12
  I thought we were talking about, like, that's crazy in Olympics.
• 52:14
  My dad. Had a Canon like camera in 2000.
• 52:20
  So, this is like folded and it took like this giant memory
• 52:23
  card. And yeah, we hold like 25
• 52:26
  pictures that Nikon. This is so weird because, like,
• 52:29
  I mentioned earlier that I got this from a thrift store, but
• 52:32
  like there was another camera there.
• 52:33
  It was a Nikon like an old Nikon Coolpix and like, It's half of
• 52:38
  its spun. Yeah.
• 52:39
  And I was like what the fuck is this?
• 52:40
  So I think that might be the same generation as that camera
• 52:43
  but very early like the earliest that that like an average person
• 52:47
  could afford to buy. Yeah.
• 52:48
  Camera. So from from that point growing
• 52:52
  up it was always just like take pictures of the cool stuff in
• 52:54
  your life, you know? So like friends when I was in
• 52:57
  Middle School, I got into taking pictures of trains because I was
• 53:00
  taking this the train to school every day in high school.
• 53:04
  And then, you know, when I was in college, it was just like,
• 53:08
  friends stuff or I like amusement parks, so I was taking
• 53:10
  pictures in amusement parks and then I went to a drift event and
• 53:14
  my natural like, bringing a camera because it, there's gonna
• 53:17
  be cool stuff to see there. So.
• 53:19
  Yeah. And then like, after my, you
• 53:22
  know, after the first hour of shooting, like with auto
• 53:25
  settings, the cars all just looked parked on a big giant
• 53:28
  piece of tarmac. So I was like, let me see if I
• 53:30
  can slow the shutter speed down and make it look blurry and all
• 53:34
  action. In the first one of those that
• 53:35
  came through the camera, I was like, Like damn, did you try?
• 53:38
  Did you learn any of that in school and high school?
• 53:39
  I took a photo class in college. That's about it.
• 53:42
  I have those pictures down at the bottom you know, High
• 53:45
  School. I took a photo class.
• 53:47
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 53:48
  I was film like with an old 35 millimeter know.
• 53:50
  It was literally like it was a new class, it was like a digital
• 53:53
  photography class. Oh, really?
• 53:55
  So, it's digital. That's cool.
• 53:57
  So that's how I learned, how to use a camera.
• 53:58
  How did you graduate 2009? Okay, two years before me.
• 54:02
  So, that's right. I actually had a decent camera
• 54:06
  when I was younger and took photos too.
• 54:08
  Like my friends, skateboarding and shit.
• 54:10
  But, and oh, yeah, cuz you a lot of you guys up here were in
• 54:13
  action sports. Yeah, it seems like everyone who
• 54:15
  fucking drips over here. Where are you from?
• 54:17
  I'm from Warminster PA, which was just like near Holy fuck.
• 54:22
  Yeah, he drove here, just for you.
• 54:23
  Yeah. Just for, you know, I'm up here
• 54:25
  for work. I was, I was in Inglewood for
• 54:27
  work. Okay.
• 54:28
  Thank God. I was like, yeah, yeah, the car.
• 54:32
  They're coming from everywhere. Fuck know.
• 54:34
  But, but I wanted to make sure that, you know, because Frankie
• 54:37
  mentioned, if it is, you running the Instagram know, it's yeah,
• 54:40
  with me Malcolm but it was me because I remember I you said
• 54:43
  something and then I was like, I was like, well we should have
• 54:45
  you on that and then you said, you were coming up here.
• 54:47
  I was like, okay, well yeah, I'm gonna take it.
• 54:49
  No brainer that works. How long have you?
• 54:51
  So, So you've been taking pictures your whole life then?
• 54:54
  Yeah, but so, in drifting 2015, I started I went to a drift
• 55:00
  Indie event in Peru Indiana, which is like Northern Indiana
• 55:04
  at an air base. So they do they just do like
• 55:07
  skid pad basically out there. I don't know if they still do
• 55:10
  it, but they did. I've heard of drift indeed
• 55:11
  before. Yeah.
• 55:12
  Maybe not. They have no Starbucks.
• 55:14
  Yes, I think that's what was my second event and I went there.
• 55:17
  And what's his name was doing? Is this Reese Maron?
• 55:22
  That's yeah, that's it right there.
• 55:24
  That's at the the first event I ever shot shot.
• 55:27
  You know. I took pictures at it.
• 55:29
  Yeah but it's my old Monte Carlo.
• 55:33
  Yeah, but so it was my first time seeing like drifting ever
• 55:40
  in person and they so they had they were having like some kind
• 55:44
  of watch party in Indianapolis for Paul.
• 55:47
  Walker's death. That's around the period.
• 55:49
  Oh, okay. Yeah.
• 55:50
  Yeah. And it's a drift.
• 55:51
  Indian, I was like drift, that's crazy.
• 55:53
  You know, drifting in the United States.
• 55:55
  I didn't know that was a thing. Having grown up in Philadelphia.
• 55:59
  You know, in that area in my whole life.
• 56:01
  Um and that this was 2015. Yeah, so I went I saw that they
• 56:05
  were having I just like when's their next event.
• 56:07
  So I saw this was our next event and I went out there and I was
• 56:11
  like, it was, it was so silly, but I was like, whoa, 240SX like
• 56:15
  that's what a 240 looks like in person like S4, you know,
• 56:18
  there's kooky their zenke, you know, a86 some dude was drifting
• 56:23
  a NASCAR as you can see. That's an Indiana.
• 56:26
  Yeah, it was a Sprint car. It was an actual real sprint car
• 56:29
  that the guy was had converted for drifting.
• 56:31
  Nice. Oh yeah.
• 56:33
  In the Lone Star, guys. Do that, or something?
• 56:37
  I'm pretty sure I watched the video of that.
• 56:38
  Reason. Did a 2J powered NASCAR?
• 56:41
  No, no, no, this isn't like an x stock car that paid.
• 56:45
  I don't know. They always doing some crazy
• 56:48
  shit with it. I know, I know for a fact, they
• 56:50
  had a problem with the wheel setup situation of it.
• 56:52
  That's that's Durk Stratton actually.
• 56:56
  Before he was like even thinking about going pro, it that was an
• 56:59
  LS swapped hatch and it said, Stratton Chevrolet on the side
• 57:02
  of it. So so that was hilarious.
• 57:04
  Like me, not knowing anything about how this worked.
• 57:07
  I was like, haha, Chevy powered car Chevy dealership.
• 57:10
  I get it. That's funny.
• 57:11
  You know, do with shredding So eventually.
• 57:15
  Well, you sorry to cut you off Coral but now go for it.
• 57:18
  I'm noticing that. So you went to East Coast Bosch
• 57:20
  that same year, I think. Yeah.
• 57:21
  So after this I went to know Starbucks because that was the
• 57:24
  next event and I was like, I couldn't get enough of it.
• 57:26
  I was like, this is so cool to watch.
• 57:27
  So I went to know, Starbucks and Reece Marin was doing his Bosch
• 57:32
  tour that year and my God. Yeah, I remember that.
• 57:35
  Yeah. So he was at that event and I
• 57:38
  have a photo of his car at that event.
• 57:40
  Yeah. There's the that's where teen
• 57:42
  there. That was wild.
• 57:44
  So like the kind of we talked about safety a lot in on the
• 57:47
  East Coast that the kind of stuff I've seen across the
• 57:49
  country is wild. Like if you get to that photo of
• 57:52
  the S14 like the past the past, the strut Towers in the rear is
• 57:56
  just going which, which one lid is the others and nothing behind
• 57:59
  it. The no Starbucks.
• 58:00
  Yeah. Okay.
• 58:01
  Yeah. When you go to other states,
• 58:04
  it's wild. Yeah, you're like, oh no one
• 58:06
  actually cares about safety here.
• 58:08
  Okay, right, yeah. So the date and boys were there.
• 58:13
  That's it. Malcolm.
• 58:17
  I'm sorry, I had yeah. You like pointing at.
• 58:18
  I see it. Yeah, it's a Malcolm likes zenka
• 58:22
  s14s especially if they're yellow.
• 58:24
  Oh, really? Yeah.
• 58:25
  Yeah. That was those those guys were
• 58:27
  pretty hot. They had great cars.
• 58:29
  Great, great cars. I'm on the East Coast Bosch
• 58:32
  video. So, but anyway, so yeah.
• 58:34
  Reese was there. I have a picture of his car and
• 58:37
  I had a drone from college. Like it was a shity like, DJI
• 58:42
  without stabilization or anything, but I gotten
• 58:44
  permission to bring it with me, so I was flying it around and
• 58:47
  Michael Russo who yeah, is, is Reese's boy was like, asking for
• 58:54
  the footage because nobody this was before drones were like
• 58:57
  common place. So they sold one drone flying
• 58:59
  over this event and Rousseau was like, I gotta have that footage.
• 59:02
  Yeah, I got to see CVS, any footage.
• 59:04
  So he was asking for me, I ended up talking to one of the event
• 59:08
  organizers and he put me in contact with Rousseau and I was
• 59:12
  like, I don't really have footage of your car, but you
• 59:14
  know, like it was threatened. I saw that and you know, and
• 59:17
  he's like, you should shoot it cold blue sometime and I was
• 59:19
  like, what the hell is Club loose?
• 59:21
  I've never heard of that. He's like, he's like oh it's on
• 59:24
  the east coast and I started looking at his his profile and
• 59:27
  it mentioned that he was in a town, not far from where I
• 59:29
  lived. I was like, where, where on the
• 59:31
  East Coast. He's like, Englishtown
• 59:32
  Englishtown, New Jersey and so First event, he's like, he's
• 59:36
  like apply for me, media talk to Kevin to, let him know that I
• 59:41
  sent you and and, you know, come to the track and I was like,
• 59:44
  that's gonna be six. So, I did that.
• 59:46
  Kevin was like, yeah, Russo mentioning, you know, he's
• 59:50
  sticking up for you. So, like, just be cool and, and
• 59:53
  come and enjoy yourself. And I was like, Super excited
• 59:56
  like you couldn't imagine. So, now you're in the field.
• 59:59
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:00:00
  Access at. Um, you know, at this Being a
• 1:00:05
  really good event. This year was I'm looking at the
• 1:00:07
  photos. Oh yes.
• 1:00:09
  Yeah, so it was ya. Landers is there from drift
• 1:00:13
  action? So is JC here and Chris Chase is
• 1:00:18
  there. It looks like was that the year
• 1:00:20
  that we went? Oh 16 there's Justin with the
• 1:00:23
  old man was this yeah, it was It's still my favorite that and,
• 1:00:30
  and freedom moves that year. We're both you guys were a final
• 1:00:32
  bout though. I think the first one.
• 1:00:34
  Yes. So this is right before final
• 1:00:36
  battle. Right.
• 1:00:37
  No, no. We went on to 69, I think no.
• 1:00:40
  Wait, you're right, 15? Yeah, yeah. 15.
• 1:00:44
  Yeah. Yeah, this was before that.
• 1:00:46
  I think I think final about four is when I met you, Where you at
• 1:00:51
  the booth? Yeah.
• 1:00:52
  Yeah with me Carl Malcolm us3 were there and then Malcolm's
• 1:00:55
  girlfriend. Jeanette, I remember meeting you
• 1:00:59
  there because you guys were you were talking to Frankie for a
• 1:01:01
  little bit and then shortly after we went to formula formula
• 1:01:06
  D. I think it was after that.
• 1:01:08
  Some some event. But I remember seeing you at an
• 1:01:11
  event back here in Jersey after final about, and I was like,
• 1:01:15
  Yeah, all the way from the Midwest for this dude.
• 1:01:18
  Yeah, he's everywhere. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:20
  Last year was my, my big year. I went to final about four.
• 1:01:24
  I went to final bout special stage, North West, I was at the
• 1:01:29
  one, they did it lock City, the east.
• 1:01:32
  Oh, I see. So you want a bunch of them?
• 1:01:34
  Yeah, and I just found out that you're not getting paid for any
• 1:01:37
  of that. No, you're doing it.
• 1:01:39
  Just for fun. Yeah, I like to travel so I do
• 1:01:42
  other stuff, like one of my buddies lived in San Francisco.
• 1:01:45
  Actually, the guy got me into JDM Cars.
• 1:01:47
  Yeah, big GT-R guy. He lives in San Francisco and,
• 1:01:51
  and so I stayed with him for a little bit, drove up to Portland
• 1:01:56
  OR the Portland area for North West.
• 1:01:58
  And then back down, He took me on like a C5, Galaxy using the
• 1:02:03
  Air Force. So like I got the tour like the
• 1:02:04
  air base and a C5, and then what there's like an amusement park
• 1:02:08
  out there that I hit. It was like a whole big thing.
• 1:02:11
  Yeah, I try to. I try to make the most I love, I
• 1:02:13
  like that because they're incorporating something else
• 1:02:15
  that you love with another thing.
• 1:02:16
  Literally all my hobby. Yeah, like, okay, but bring them
• 1:02:19
  all together, all over the fuck. Do you work?
• 1:02:21
  I'm production manager for like a new-ish company.
• 1:02:25
  We've been in business for five years.
• 1:02:27
  Made a million dollars this year.
• 1:02:29
  They must be a pretty lenient company with your time off.
• 1:02:32
  Yeah, I get 15 days so so you just make it work.
• 1:02:36
  Yeah. And then I'm since I'm I was one
• 1:02:38
  of the first members of the company so I kind of am able to
• 1:02:42
  do stuff. Yeah.
• 1:02:42
  Work on weekends and yeah like move my timer around to to make
• 1:02:46
  it suit but that East Coast bash event was good man.
• 1:02:50
  Yeah there's a lot of heat in that album and it's terrible
• 1:02:53
  too. All the photos are the worst
• 1:02:55
  because it's one of your first. Yeah they look better than
• 1:02:59
  anybody. So you don't have any gigs.
• 1:03:06
  You just go out? Yeah, I just want to experience
• 1:03:09
  all that stuff. Someone pay this man, but that's
• 1:03:11
  the other thing, too. I was gonna mention earlier, I
• 1:03:13
  think that way from the moment. Yeah, whatever you like doing,
• 1:03:17
  and you make it a career, you lose the passion and
• 1:03:20
  surprisingly. Me being mechanic.
• 1:03:23
  I don't know how I haven't lost a passion.
• 1:03:25
  I was gonna say, it doesn't happen every time.
• 1:03:27
  Sometimes it grows it even more. I will comment.
• 1:03:30
  There are times that I am seeing where I'm starting to lose the
• 1:03:33
  passion because You know, I'm here all day working on cars and
• 1:03:39
  then when my time is off and like I don't want to work on my
• 1:03:42
  fucking car. Yeah.
• 1:03:43
  But that that's every mechanic no matter what.
• 1:03:45
  Yeah. Don't you fucking dip out on
• 1:03:47
  that thing. That's if I didn't become a
• 1:03:49
  mechanic and I was just working my Mainly just my own car.
• 1:03:53
  It would be happy working on it all the time.
• 1:03:54
  You know what I mean? Yeah, yes and no, though.
• 1:03:57
  Don't you dip out on me. A weird about that. because it's
• 1:04:01
  like, you gotta view it as you gotta viewed as a job.
• 1:04:06
  Because if you don't view it as that then yeah, you're gonna
• 1:04:09
  view it like that, where it's like, oh, I don't want to leave
• 1:04:11
  here. And go work on my car, this
• 1:04:12
  weekend because I've been working on cars.
• 1:04:14
  Say, yeah, but that's your job. Well, you're doing on the
• 1:04:17
  weekend is for you, right? Yeah.
• 1:04:19
  I mean, yeah, I personally it's hard to do that, but I
• 1:04:22
  personally don't even really fuk with working on cars.
• 1:04:24
  It's, it's, it's, it's the driving part of them that I
• 1:04:28
  enjoy. And for me to get to the driving
• 1:04:30
  part, I have to go through this part.
• 1:04:32
  Yeah. Which is building it and shit.
• 1:04:35
  It's like, it's like but your farming and shit and then you
• 1:04:38
  harvest it at the end. I like the eating part.
• 1:04:40
  I don't like the farming part. Yeah.
• 1:04:41
  But I will say Chris is right. Well, The active working on
• 1:04:45
  cars. I don't know about but the
• 1:04:47
  Passion the passion definitely does.
• 1:04:49
  I want to make it a career kind of because I I don't have a
• 1:04:52
  crazy passion like I did for drifting back then.
• 1:04:55
  Yeah well you're just getting old.
• 1:04:56
  Your levels are getting low. Oh it's fine.
• 1:05:01
  I just don't avoid two years younger than Frankie.
• 1:05:04
  So they like that. Act.
• 1:05:05
  Like I'm old. Yes you're a year old.
• 1:05:07
  What year? How you know?
• 1:05:09
  I graduated in 200. Chris 2013 literally.
• 1:05:13
  Oh yeah. We're like in between me and
• 1:05:16
  Frankie. Yeah, it's like yeah, it's three
• 1:05:20
  years and four years after me. Wow, you're a dick.
• 1:05:25
  Anyway, really four years older than me.
• 1:05:30
  Carl. You're old man.
• 1:05:31
  I know, dude. I mean I'm hurt like an old man,
• 1:05:34
  bro. Everything if I stood up right
• 1:05:35
  now, everything would crack. But no to bring bring it back
• 1:05:38
  real quick. Yes.
• 1:05:39
  Yes, please save us. The special stage Northwest
• 1:05:43
  thing that was the last final bout ever to be held at Park.
• 1:05:47
  So, like I actually got to see so.
• 1:05:49
  Oh yeah, yeah, I never know when I started getting into drifting,
• 1:05:52
  it was like drifting into Facebook and it was like
• 1:05:54
  villains. It was animal style.
• 1:05:57
  I mean, you know, animal style shirt on like the villains
• 1:05:59
  wasn't even big back then. Because I remember they had a
• 1:06:02
  Facebook page though. So yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:04
  It was like villains. I was like, that's a cool name
• 1:06:06
  for drift team and I followed him.
• 1:06:07
  And then at that event I met those guys and like shook their
• 1:06:11
  hands. They're awesome for a big part
• 1:06:13
  of me getting interested in this your car.
• 1:06:15
  We're all sick. I mean he's getting they have
• 1:06:17
  like the Corvette and Camaro now which are fine.
• 1:06:20
  Yeah like they're not as cool as the cars.
• 1:06:22
  They didn't even know about that.
• 1:06:23
  Yeah dude one of them. One of them drives a Z28 like a
• 1:06:27
  old Camaro. Yeah.
• 1:06:28
  It's Villains like the they make Parts too.
• 1:06:33
  Yeah angle kits and they have villain Sportsland and I know
• 1:06:36
  that they make a the actual stuff for SRT to convert to 350X
• 1:06:43
  axles. I think yeah.
• 1:06:48
  Keep doing this with your hands. It makes me made me laugh for a
• 1:06:51
  little bit. What are you doing?
• 1:06:52
  So, but no, but okay, so what I'm also curious about, right?
• 1:06:57
  So you're seeing you're enough, you're around something enough.
• 1:07:01
  Makes you want to do it. Mmm, so When did you get into
• 1:07:05
  then drifting as well? Well, if you're talking about
• 1:07:10
  like actually making a go of it, it was this year.
• 1:07:13
  So what's this was your first year drifting?
• 1:07:15
  Yeah, I mean, it's not cheap to do.
• 1:07:17
  It never has been. I see you.
• 1:07:19
  I'm not one. Is that Evergreen?
• 1:07:20
  Like yeah, I just kind of so I played a lot of a shadow.
• 1:07:24
  People were gonna I know that too.
• 1:07:29
  No, you're good, man. You're in a safe space, right?
• 1:07:31
  Yes, right. He can't hurt you here.
• 1:07:35
  It's like if you take, if you take, like, when you're learning
• 1:07:38
  like class and lab, yeah, real drifting is lab.
• 1:07:43
  But a Seto can be class if you do it right with the right
• 1:07:47
  people, it, you know, you need to do it with people who have
• 1:07:50
  drifted and do it with only with people who have never drifted
• 1:07:53
  and then Everybody's just circle jerking on their own.
• 1:07:56
  I mean, I would never say that doesn't work.
• 1:07:57
  I am, I, I'm gonna ask you how you learned after this, after I
• 1:08:02
  make this quick note just because I'm gonna forget it.
• 1:08:04
  Ah wait fuck. Did I already forget it?
• 1:08:06
  Um, We gotta write down. Yeah.
• 1:08:11
  Wow, you lost. I was I was focused on a bunch
• 1:08:14
  of other shit like keywords. Don't shoot yourself right now.
• 1:08:17
  It's a set of a set of the thing.
• 1:08:21
  For me, was that a Seto? If you have bad habits in a
• 1:08:26
  settle, it will literally translate to when you're
• 1:08:30
  driving. I've seen it so many times,
• 1:08:32
  mainly with the handbrake thing, like, in a set.
• 1:08:35
  Oh, it's so easy, right? You're playing with your hand
• 1:08:37
  and then you can just like that press a button or pull the lever
• 1:08:41
  or whatever set up you have. Um, and then you see them in a
• 1:08:44
  car and then it does the same thing like or or your hands are
• 1:08:47
  all funky. I like using a Seto.
• 1:08:49
  So I could be like, oh okay. I saw my hands in that GoPro
• 1:08:52
  footage that I had. And my hands are all over the
• 1:08:55
  place. Let me clean that up.
• 1:08:55
  So then you're playing like that.
• 1:08:57
  It's the muscle memory, it's the muscle memory and I wish I had
• 1:09:00
  more people to play with online. You know, I'm gonna add you bro,
• 1:09:02
  because like I don't have it. I don't like playing online cuz
• 1:09:05
  everyone fucking sucks. Yeah.
• 1:09:06
  Except for this one time where I ran into, I got paid for that
• 1:09:10
  actually that wedding. I shot this.
• 1:09:12
  Yeah. But you don't open that that's
• 1:09:15
  yeah, that was that was for them but yeah, that's sorry that for
• 1:09:20
  that. Yeah.
• 1:09:21
  Yeah. They're married though.
• 1:09:22
  I don't know how they how they North Jersey so you never know.
• 1:09:26
  But um, Oh dude, can I tell you something?
• 1:09:30
  Can I bring up something? Yeah that might be
• 1:09:32
  controversial. Well about North Jersey.
• 1:09:35
  You might know what is one time. I saw Josh roelofs on Facebook,
• 1:09:39
  used the term Jackson white. Yeah, okay.
• 1:09:42
  And I saw people rip him to shreds about that and I I looked
• 1:09:46
  it up and it's apparently just like some like I will tell you
• 1:09:49
  because I'm from the town over and okay.
• 1:09:51
  All about it. Yeah tell me about what that is.
• 1:09:52
  Okay so well I don't know extreme detail but I'm gonna
• 1:09:56
  tell you enough where you can kind of get by.
• 1:09:58
  So I'm from Ramsey the town over his Mahwah.
• 1:10:01
  There's a place in Mahwah called Stagg Hill there.
• 1:10:03
  And the myth with stag Hill is that it's be gentle here Carl
• 1:10:06
  because I don't want all my tires, slashed at the shop.
• 1:10:10
  All right. Yeah, the kind of thing.
• 1:10:12
  Yeah, dude, is it all right? No, no, but it could be that.
• 1:10:15
  Tell me, tell me after, no, no, no tell I'm not gonna love this
• 1:10:20
  story. They they would there was
• 1:10:23
  stories of like you know being a kid you want to go up there and
• 1:10:27
  go fuck around, fuck around and find out, right?
• 1:10:30
  So a friend of mine me recipes. Drove up there.
• 1:10:34
  I think he had a brand new Mini Cooper at the time.
• 1:10:36
  See I told you you would love it.
• 1:10:38
  Mini Cooper know he didn't die from like God damn this guy.
• 1:10:43
  I think I remember this. Yeah, continue yeah.
• 1:10:45
  Good but he had a brand new Mini Cooper.
• 1:10:49
  They would. He would he would go up there.
• 1:10:50
  The story with the Stag Hill. Is that everybody up there is in
• 1:10:53
  bread? Because okay yeah put the brakes
• 1:10:57
  on that's what I heard. That is the rumor.
• 1:11:00
  Yeah. What they say they are, are
• 1:11:03
  Native Americans. Okay.
• 1:11:05
  They claim to be Native Americans and That's there.
• 1:11:11
  I think How The Story Goes is either that they did claim that
• 1:11:15
  area as a reservation or they are trying to something along
• 1:11:20
  that line. But yeah, the rumor is that
• 1:11:23
  they're like, you know, there's five, there's only a few,
• 1:11:26
  there's a few families there. So like that is yeah, you are
• 1:11:30
  correct. Sorry wild.
• 1:11:31
  It is how we got here, but I just, it's like you're, oh yeah.
• 1:11:35
  But I'm telling you like Jersey. That's it.
• 1:11:38
  Okay, they drove that car up there and they left with the
• 1:11:42
  busted ass window and shit like oh they they got fucked up.
• 1:11:45
  Yeah, like cuz cuz they know when somebody's we all.
• 1:11:48
  Yeah, I thought someone was gonna die.
• 1:11:50
  No, he was, he was a good kid. Got into bad stuff and okay,
• 1:11:54
  passed away. Oh, I think it's like, I know I
• 1:11:57
  have a story too from like they really fucked it up and I got
• 1:12:01
  two. Remember when we went to stagger
• 1:12:03
  Chris, um, but on the contrary there is a lot of off-roading
• 1:12:08
  that goes on over there a lot. Power lines and shit.
• 1:12:11
  So that makes of arrogance not arrogance because I fucking love
• 1:12:15
  doing that shit, but that problem that makes of rowdiness.
• 1:12:18
  And that makes of people who don't, really like when visitors
• 1:12:21
  unwelcome visitors come by. Yep.
• 1:12:23
  Um, is not a good mix here, so, like here's what it is.
• 1:12:26
  They live up a hill In a community that has no exit.
• 1:12:31
  Other than that one road. Mmm.
• 1:12:33
  So And there's a there's a apartment complex I want to say
• 1:12:38
  right at the beginning element, right at the beginning.
• 1:12:40
  And we think a lot of those I don't know to call them without
• 1:12:44
  being an asshole but those people that live like, live up
• 1:12:48
  on the hill live down there too residences.
• 1:12:50
  Yeah, people people. So yeah, this collection of
• 1:12:55
  people, um, if you don't want to be offensive and so probably the
• 1:13:00
  problem is To get to the off-roading spots over there,
• 1:13:04
  you have to go easiest ways to go through one of their
• 1:13:06
  backyards. Yeah.
• 1:13:07
  Okay. So that's why everyone goes over
• 1:13:11
  there. So you could imagine, if all
• 1:13:14
  these kids, just keep driving through your town, going through
• 1:13:16
  people's drive like, driveways like you're gonna get pretty
• 1:13:19
  pissed off at them. Yeah.
• 1:13:20
  So now they pretty much don't trust anyone that goes up there.
• 1:13:23
  Like if they see a car come up, you, you already know you've
• 1:13:28
  been spotted because they know every car.
• 1:13:30
  Yeah, that lives up there, right?
• 1:13:31
  It's um, so we've been I've gone up there before like I think my
• 1:13:37
  dad might, oh, you never been there.
• 1:13:39
  Oh, let's go. Take it.
• 1:13:40
  And we were right over there and it was me my sister and my dad.
• 1:13:43
  He's like, oh, you never. Oh, let's go makes a right turn.
• 1:13:45
  I was like, can we not do this right now?
• 1:13:46
  Right, goes, drives up the road. I'm like, here we go.
• 1:13:50
  The road is great. It's a fun.
• 1:13:51
  It's a fun road. By the way, I was gonna say that
• 1:13:53
  next. Yeah, I would be good for the
• 1:13:56
  road is amazing. They all have all this awesome
• 1:13:58
  shit up there. And that's yeah, goodbye
• 1:14:01
  Malcolm. Everybody say bye to mouth.
• 1:14:02
  Malcolm is going home to 10, to some, some work animals that
• 1:14:06
  they are babysitting currently. What's Unforgettable Pet Care?
• 1:14:09
  Unforgettable at unfair gettable.
• 1:14:12
  Great name, great name who came up with the name?
• 1:14:16
  Princess. You came up with it.
• 1:14:22
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:14:24
  Yeah. All right, his break.
• 1:14:26
  Everyone pee break, but yeah, that's do you remember?
• 1:14:30
  I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna tell you the story of what
• 1:14:33
  happened to me and Chris up there because I went up there.
• 1:14:37
  I had no idea where I was going, right.
• 1:14:38
  And then there's something at the top of the mountain.
• 1:14:40
  It's like a structure. I think it's like old German
• 1:14:42
  house or something like that, but me and Chris, Chris has the
• 1:14:45
  same exterior that he had back in the day.
• 1:14:47
  I had a Land Cruiser. Um, and we were driving our
• 1:14:52
  friend of mine. Hadler went through there and
• 1:14:54
  was like, yo, I know what I know where to go so he takes us
• 1:14:58
  through. We go up a cul-de-sac, it's a
• 1:15:00
  dead end and you have to literally drive through this
• 1:15:04
  dude's part of his property. Yeah.
• 1:15:05
  To get through driveway and driveway, it was a driveway.
• 1:15:09
  Yep. And then we got through the
• 1:15:12
  woods and it was fine and dandy. We had a good time.
• 1:15:14
  We went up to the top boom, car starts to overheat Carl luck.
• 1:15:17
  Once again I we get back to the entrance where we came in and
• 1:15:22
  the dude blocked at all. And then he parked his car at
• 1:15:25
  the entrance of the cul-de-sac too.
• 1:15:27
  How scary, right there was just a second.
• 1:15:29
  I wish I was not scared. I was pissed because I was like
• 1:15:32
  my cars, overheating work. I'm gonna go knock on this guy's
• 1:15:34
  door, knock on his door. You know about this area?
• 1:15:38
  Yeah. I had some balls back then, now
• 1:15:41
  they're gone. Here's where the problem occurs.
• 1:15:46
  the trail that we originally took were like bunny, slopes the
• 1:15:50
  trail that we had to take to get out.
• 1:15:53
  It was immediate Double Black Diamond.
• 1:15:54
  Yeah. Like, it was, it was really bad.
• 1:15:56
  Um, but yeah, Scott, I'm talking about the one time Chris and I
• 1:16:01
  went off-roading up there like, actually, and then they blocked
• 1:16:03
  Us in because we couldn't get out because we went to the
• 1:16:06
  property. Oh, that's in summation.
• 1:16:07
  So he goes and knocks on the door.
• 1:16:08
  So I knock on the door because I don't know any better.
• 1:16:11
  I really like this Land Cruiser, I just bought.
• 1:16:13
  Like I was not overheating, it's overheating.
• 1:16:15
  And I have to go knock. It's not even like you're just
• 1:16:17
  on their property, you're having a crisis on their property.
• 1:16:20
  Yeah, I need to get out like I need to go home like and he
• 1:16:23
  wouldn't let us go. I knocked on the door and they
• 1:16:25
  really were just like call the cops.
• 1:16:28
  Yeah, I'm gonna call the police on you.
• 1:16:29
  Please don't go up there, buddy. I'm sorry, but they won't they
• 1:16:32
  know all about it. And, yeah, kind of, I mean,
• 1:16:34
  again, they kind of keep to themselves.
• 1:16:36
  They the trouble that does happen in there is again rumored
• 1:16:40
  to be just taking care of within the community like it.
• 1:16:43
  It's a, it's, it's own community and being in going getting a
• 1:16:46
  little older. Now, I kind of I don't know.
• 1:16:48
  I think about it differently. I'm like if they don't want
• 1:16:50
  people there that I'm just not gonna go there like, you know.
• 1:16:52
  Yeah. It was just unfortunate that it
• 1:16:55
  was the easiest way to get to those offered.
• 1:16:57
  Yeah. Yeah, other ways.
• 1:16:59
  But we just again and then to get out, dude, we had to do the
• 1:17:02
  same thing that Frankie mentioned earlier, where we
• 1:17:04
  found a path, A friend of ours like walk down and then somebody
• 1:17:08
  saw a kid walk out of the woods. The guy across the street from
• 1:17:11
  the entrance of the woods immediately standing out shoddy
• 1:17:14
  in hand. Oh boy.
• 1:17:16
  And then, and that's the part that you missed.
• 1:17:18
  Got the trailer. We initially took me went there.
• 1:17:21
  was like a bunny slope Trail and then he blocked us off and
• 1:17:25
  getting out but there's a second chair that led kind of Sort of
• 1:17:29
  the way out, right immediately? Double black like trees
• 1:17:32
  everywhere and shit. Like you're driving.
• 1:17:34
  We drove through a car that was cut in half.
• 1:17:36
  Yeah, I get like a 40s car. Yeah.
• 1:17:39
  Oh, sick. It was kind of kind of crazy
• 1:17:43
  like cars in those but yeah, the fact that to get out we were
• 1:17:46
  just like, fuck it. Go like, that's fast as you can.
• 1:17:49
  What did that dude? Shot at us, Bro.
• 1:17:50
  Fuck Dan. Brings me over there all time
• 1:17:53
  when Dan's like, oh, we're gonna go for it.
• 1:17:54
  I was like okay, can we not go to that?
• 1:17:55
  Yeah, I don't worry about it. And then we just end up there
• 1:17:57
  and I'm like, where we he's like, yeah, you just make you
• 1:18:00
  just go right here. I'm like, we're going in
• 1:18:01
  someone's driveway right now and he's like, no, no, you're good.
• 1:18:03
  And then they'll be coming out, running out of us and shit.
• 1:18:06
  And he's no, we're good. And he just goes and drives off.
• 1:18:08
  And I'm like, can we not do this?
• 1:18:10
  You know, you know, purple Z Kris eeee from call Blues, which
• 1:18:14
  is the last name is Jennifer. Yeah.
• 1:18:16
  I know the name. Yeah.
• 1:18:17
  He has a ranger that he goes off.
• 1:18:20
  Roading him. We were just out there me and
• 1:18:22
  Barry Bernardo with the turbo E36.
• 1:18:24
  Yeah, yeah, we were out there and we had a similar experience.
• 1:18:27
  We were just Crawling through the woods and this old dude with
• 1:18:31
  a fucking rifle just walked up on Barry and was like, you gotta
• 1:18:34
  get out, you know, like freaking out, you scared all the deer
• 1:18:37
  away. It's like, fucking just a random
• 1:18:39
  3:30 in the afternoon. Yeah, he's just with his
• 1:18:41
  Wrangler and he's just mad and you know, like Simon's property.
• 1:18:44
  He didn't get a, he didn't get a kill or whatever.
• 1:18:46
  It was just like angry and just, like crazy.
• 1:18:50
  I know what I mean, but it's like, that's how it how it goes
• 1:18:53
  for all. Go to Stop and Shop that night.
• 1:18:55
  I mean, what I I don't know how often you offer.
• 1:18:58
  I personally enjoy that kind of thing.
• 1:19:00
  There's something about going to a journey.
• 1:19:02
  You have a destination. You stop at the destination
• 1:19:04
  usually I like pull out a grill or something and cook.
• 1:19:08
  Pine Barrens is a lot better place to do that in my opinion.
• 1:19:11
  You don't have that problem with them Authority.
• 1:19:14
  I was gonna say, I was gonna say it's also, this is New Jersey.
• 1:19:16
  So like we don't have that many areas do that.
• 1:19:19
  Well, maybe Western New Jersey probably has a lot more.
• 1:19:21
  It's not the play pen. Pine Barrens is South Jersey.
• 1:19:24
  Yeah, but we live Rouses. Cool.
• 1:19:27
  Have you had the opportunity to go there?
• 1:19:28
  Yeah, I have, I just see whatever this admission to that,
• 1:19:31
  right? Yeah.
• 1:19:32
  You have to buy like a membership for the day, but then
• 1:19:36
  you're, you're fuking set. And and the facility is
• 1:19:38
  beautiful. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:39
  I've seen videos so you we should go there Frankie.
• 1:19:42
  Please take me there. You should, you should go.
• 1:19:45
  If you haven't been, you should I don't know what this is really
• 1:19:47
  impressive. And Off Road Park.
• 1:19:49
  Yeah. Where is it?
• 1:19:50
  Pennsylvania in Pennsylvania. North northern Pa.
• 1:19:53
  Thank you. You want to drive?
• 1:19:54
  Yeah. Like Washington stuff around
• 1:19:57
  here is like all the legal? No matter what?
• 1:19:58
  Yeah. Primaries all legal.
• 1:20:00
  Yeah. Anything up there, all legal.
• 1:20:02
  It's a shame because it's gorgeous up there.
• 1:20:04
  Yeah, yeah, I love going up there.
• 1:20:06
  I went there to Camp actually and that's kind of like that's
• 1:20:10
  the ticket, right? Like, we went camping and and
• 1:20:12
  even if we were to run into Authority, we're like, yeah,
• 1:20:14
  we're going to our campsite or whatever.
• 1:20:17
  And now now I don't I don't condone any of this Behavior or
• 1:20:20
  anything like that or am I from nor am I promoting it.
• 1:20:22
  But it's a really beautiful place.
• 1:20:23
  Like speaking of non condonable Behavior.
• 1:20:27
  Uh Mr. Bovino. Yes.
• 1:20:29
  So uh your Christmas movie Christmas video?
• 1:20:33
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:20:34
  Nobody knows who's who's driving?
• 1:20:37
  I mean, there's self-driving. Technology out there.
• 1:20:41
  I'm not worried about 2014 or whatever.
• 1:20:42
  Yeah, but that shit's awesome that was like some of the stuff
• 1:20:47
  that I saw before. I knew anybody, you know what I
• 1:20:49
  mean? Like, do you guys when you did
• 1:20:50
  that stuff, did you think about it being like something iconic,
• 1:20:55
  like not to not to make like, put you on the spot, but you
• 1:20:58
  realize that the faction Christmas videos were very well,
• 1:21:01
  the first one, definitely not. The one where we drifted down
• 1:21:05
  that one road with the trees on our roof.
• 1:21:07
  Yeah, we didn't not think anything of it.
• 1:21:09
  We just, we thought it would be funny.
• 1:21:11
  So, yeah, we thought it would be funny and we thought let's make
• 1:21:15
  it a video because so you had the third one in North Carolina.
• 1:21:19
  Yeah. You the second one is the one
• 1:21:21
  with the cars are wrapped. Yeah.
• 1:21:22
  Okay. So I don't even know if I've
• 1:21:23
  even seen the first one, right? Yeah.
• 1:21:25
  Because it is the one that I saw.
• 1:21:28
  So if you want to, if you want to link that I can.
• 1:21:31
  Yeah. Because which one it is
• 1:21:34
  December. So yeah, that's why I'm Mike
• 1:21:37
  Hayes thing. So that's the other thing like
• 1:21:40
  We we knew my K, he's a friend, right?
• 1:21:43
  So it's like I don't know, we were kind of just like I think
• 1:21:47
  Justin had the idea of putting a tree on his roof because oh he
• 1:21:50
  took a photo of his car once because he actually had to go
• 1:21:52
  get a Christmas tree and he put it on his roof and he took a
• 1:21:55
  photo. He's like oh this is cool.
• 1:21:56
  And then Number two, I'm putting up the first one first, one.
• 1:22:00
  And then I hate to take credit if it's not if it's not mine but
• 1:22:06
  I think it was my idea to do that video hit the second one
• 1:22:10
  was 100% his idea but yeah, I think I was like why don't we
• 1:22:14
  just make this video? Put the tree on the roof and
• 1:22:16
  we'll drift down some street. So we had there's a good Street
• 1:22:19
  by his house, that's pretty empty and no one's ever on it.
• 1:22:23
  and, We were like yeah let's just call Mike, have him film
• 1:22:28
  us, taking up trees and then we'll just drift down this hill.
• 1:22:33
  Attic. You know it's on our YouTube
• 1:22:35
  too. You guys can check all these
• 1:22:36
  videos out on our YouTube. I forgot it.
• 1:22:38
  Yeah, we love to be uploaded on my thing.
• 1:22:40
  Oh look at you guys are looking at everything.
• 1:22:43
  Yeah, we had some on ours. Yeah lately.
• 1:22:46
  Recently. I mean this is the this is a
• 1:22:48
  first viewing for me, really? Yeah.
• 1:22:51
  Okay, so then we'll watch this. Yeah.
• 1:22:54
  That's my car was fucked up, unfortunately.
• 1:22:56
  Yeah, I don't know how to get the audio tour.
• 1:22:58
  Headphones. That's fine.
• 1:23:00
  That's all right. Yeah, it's probably just a song.
• 1:23:03
  This video is so good because I mean like yeah, it is, but it
• 1:23:08
  was like a punk rock version maybe so a story about him.
• 1:23:12
  I when I was in college before before even like the drifting
• 1:23:17
  interest started, I saw like stance videos through
• 1:23:22
  happenstance. You know what I mean?
• 1:23:23
  Like, you just be on YouTube and it would be like cars.
• 1:23:25
  Here's a video. Yeah, one of them was a week
• 1:23:28
  fest video from Los Angeles that Mike Kay made.
• 1:23:30
  So I got suggested a video that he made and I watched it like
• 1:23:34
  this video as amazing. I love this.
• 1:23:35
  I want to make stuff like this. Yeah, yeah, learn later on the
• 1:23:38
  video equipment, is incredibly expensive.
• 1:23:40
  I was gonna say you didn't, you didn't pursue, I didn't pursue
• 1:23:43
  video, I have made a couple. There's there's a couple out
• 1:23:46
  there but Just all the equipment you need to do it, to really do
• 1:23:50
  it, right? Because I like to do stuff is
• 1:23:53
  right as I can. Yeah, kind of put me off and
• 1:23:56
  that's not to say that I won't do it in the future.
• 1:23:58
  But anyway, I was, you know, I saw that video and I was like,
• 1:24:01
  this is sick. And then when I was working with
• 1:24:03
  my imported, her body doing shows, I just ran into him him
• 1:24:07
  and EJ McCauley. I was like, I had one of those
• 1:24:09
  Drifter carts. Yeah, yeah, I was like, messing
• 1:24:11
  around with it the whole show after the show is over.
• 1:24:13
  He and EJ came up to me and were like can we just like What is
• 1:24:17
  this can we go for a spin on it? I was like, yeah, man and go for
• 1:24:20
  it. Yeah.
• 1:24:21
  And like Mike was ripping around on it and he's and I was like,
• 1:24:24
  so what's your name? He's like Mike.
• 1:24:25
  I have a thing called Mike K, media.
• 1:24:28
  And I was like, what I've seen your video, like a video, 600
• 1:24:33
  miles from here, you know what I mean?
• 1:24:34
  Like, that's when I saw it, not when not, when I was in this
• 1:24:37
  scene or like around these people, you know what I mean?
• 1:24:40
  So it's like crazy and he's never forgotten me since that
• 1:24:43
  moment, which is crazy. We hardly ever see each other,
• 1:24:45
  but every time I walk up to him, well that's EJ right there
• 1:24:48
  actually. It was DJ and Mike in that car.
• 1:24:51
  Oh, really? Yeah.
• 1:24:52
  Yeah. There is so that was funny, too,
• 1:24:55
  but Yeah, you're lucky. I didn't see you there.
• 1:24:58
  What did you get? Pulled over for us?
• 1:24:59
  Someone Called in a noise complaint.
• 1:25:04
  I guess they were the only ones on the street because we we left
• 1:25:07
  me And then they caught them. Right.
• 1:25:11
  But not us. He was probably in a car that
• 1:25:13
  looked suggestive, right? No.
• 1:25:14
  Not even really. He was just, I'm telling you.
• 1:25:17
  No one goes on that road. Yeah, so they were like you,
• 1:25:19
  you, we have to get somebody. Well, they were like, you were
• 1:25:22
  there. So we know what you were doing.
• 1:25:23
  Yeah, I don't know if they got a ticket for that.
• 1:25:25
  I don't think they did. But so we, we kind of it was
• 1:25:29
  more. Like, I don't think it was like,
• 1:25:31
  it wasn't for a reason, because Instagram wasn't really that
• 1:25:34
  crazy yet, right? So we took a little clip of us
• 1:25:40
  drifting on the hill Christmas trees, on our car.
• 1:25:43
  And that was the first thing that went I'm gonna say, quote
• 1:25:46
  on quote viral because I don't know if it actually went well,
• 1:25:48
  if I roll but for us it was and we posted that on the Instagram
• 1:25:52
  and you fucking got shared like crazy and fast too.
• 1:25:55
  Yeah, really crazy. And we were like, so then the
• 1:25:59
  wheels started spinning and we were like oh that's all you have
• 1:26:02
  to do. You just have to drift on the
• 1:26:04
  street. Like so then next year comes
• 1:26:07
  around And Justins like why don't we wrap our cars and
• 1:26:11
  wrapping paper and drift them for the second video.
• 1:26:14
  I was like, what do you mean for the second video?
• 1:26:16
  We're doing this. Well like this is a thing.
• 1:26:17
  Yeah. Anyone's ever done that?
• 1:26:19
  No one did that before? No.
• 1:26:21
  Yeah. And then I didn't know of anyone
• 1:26:23
  that did. You sparked a fucking Trend?
• 1:26:25
  Yeah. You're on like car throttle.
• 1:26:28
  And yeah. All those.
• 1:26:29
  We run the new that one was on the news, was it?
• 1:26:31
  Yeah. It was, it was a crazy video so
• 1:26:34
  cool. Yeah.
• 1:26:35
  Think about how cool that is. I was pretty.
• 1:26:37
  It was pretty cool. It was more.
• 1:26:39
  It was funny. That they were sharing a video
• 1:26:40
  that was completely illegal. Yeah.
• 1:26:42
  This is great. Like it was like performed on a
• 1:26:45
  closed course. Know, they say anything.
• 1:26:47
  They're like this is wild. Look at these people doing this
• 1:26:50
  and I was like they do this. So we got the new sports,
• 1:26:52
  sweeping the nation drifting. That's just show you that it's
• 1:26:55
  like, yeah. They really have to catch you
• 1:26:58
  doing it. Like there's no, like, well or
• 1:27:00
  if someone cares enough, but it's like, I mean no one got
• 1:27:02
  hurt. We make sure we don't do
• 1:27:04
  anything with other people around.
• 1:27:05
  I mean not video was the most Quote on quote, again dangerous
• 1:27:09
  one, because we do an exit ramp, but no one's there.
• 1:27:14
  What I was watching, it was sick because I was like, that's in
• 1:27:17
  Jersey like that? Yeah.
• 1:27:18
  I feel like I been there. You know what I mean?
• 1:27:21
  Like, we literally, just, I mean me and Justin probably sat down
• 1:27:24
  and we were like, okay, we're gonna go here, we're gonna do
• 1:27:27
  that. We're gonna leave, we're gonna
• 1:27:29
  go do this, we're gonna leave their, we're gonna do that.
• 1:27:32
  Like, we would make a plan so that it wasn't like, we're just
• 1:27:35
  hanging around. Okay.
• 1:27:36
  Now, what am I gonna do? We're gonna do crazy shit, you
• 1:27:39
  gotta. Yeah.
• 1:27:39
  So we had like us, we probably had like five spots.
• 1:27:42
  We were gonna go to and, We do it once we leave. do the other
• 1:27:48
  one leave like and if you don't get it, That's it.
• 1:27:51
  You're gonna get lucky and go back later or you don't get it.
• 1:27:54
  The steering wheel covered gets me every time.
• 1:27:56
  I'm like, what the second video. So the second video we had
• 1:28:02
  Scott. So right, that was another,
• 1:28:05
  another aspect of it because in the first one it was me driving
• 1:28:08
  my car and Justin driving Scott's car.
• 1:28:11
  Justin's car was broken or something.
• 1:28:12
  Oh, really? Okay.
• 1:28:13
  Yeah, there it is. That that shot is just like
• 1:28:16
  yeah, the city part about this is my e brake was getting stuck,
• 1:28:19
  so right. Here.
• 1:28:22
  Actually they make cut it out. Right?
• 1:28:25
  Was getting stuck. Yeah, I couldn't really drive
• 1:28:28
  the whole day. That It got locked and I had to
• 1:28:32
  like, just shut it down and here, too.
• 1:28:33
  All of no, not this one. I made it work somehow here.
• 1:28:37
  Dude that Justin's front, right wheel just right in the curb.
• 1:28:41
  Oh yeah. Oh, I'm sorry.
• 1:28:46
  It's a time delay. My bad.
• 1:28:48
  Where's the time? Yeah, there is yeah.
• 1:28:50
  Risky Business there. Yeah, I mean That was Justin's
• 1:28:55
  first time hitting that ramp. And Scott's obviously, but that
• 1:28:58
  was a ramp that I hit all the time. yeah, I mean it's just I
• 1:29:03
  just think it's so cool that You know.
• 1:29:07
  It's just like I I see that as an iconic piece of American
• 1:29:10
  drifting history, you know, like yeah kind of cool.
• 1:29:14
  You know, you just one of the things I like to do when I when
• 1:29:18
  I go to the track is trying to dig up shitt from the past
• 1:29:21
  because like there's a lot of history, especially a couple
• 1:29:25
  police that just goes ignored, like almost deliberately
• 1:29:28
  ignored, and it's kind of like, like they they're always moving
• 1:29:32
  forward there which is awesome but like don't ignore all the
• 1:29:35
  stuff that you guys have just, yeah.
• 1:29:37
  You know what I mean? Like, a lot of people don't
• 1:29:39
  realize, like Josh brought up the drift drifting grip.
• 1:29:43
  The the trials that that it was before Clovis existed.
• 1:29:46
  Oh yeah, what? Yeah, it was, oh, you're talking
• 1:29:50
  about like, before Club lose was a thing.
• 1:29:51
  Yeah, like D&G. Yeah, I didn't even know about
• 1:29:54
  that. Yeah, I learned about that from,
• 1:29:56
  from someone who had driven there.
• 1:29:58
  Yeah, years ago. But like, I just, I wish people
• 1:30:01
  would. I mean, you know, I, I want to
• 1:30:04
  do it at some point but, you know, you think about all the
• 1:30:06
  stuff you want to do, but I like to get people, who are there
• 1:30:10
  talking like, what, one of my favorite memories at Clubhouse?
• 1:30:13
  I always think about is Brian Hoffman.
• 1:30:15
  Nick delissio were sitting down at the bar and just like,
• 1:30:18
  Bullshiting. And then that, you know, the
• 1:30:20
  conversation was two, people are a good.
• 1:30:23
  Yeah, the conversation with die down and then I would ask like
• 1:30:26
  another question. I would like to keep a role of
• 1:30:29
  questions and we got oh, and then we would like off into like
• 1:30:32
  The Ether because these guys have been driving for, you know,
• 1:30:35
  so long. Like I don't even know when they
• 1:30:37
  started but it over over 10 years for both of them.
• 1:30:40
  I mean they you know, years there were more the less you
• 1:30:43
  competed in FD, you know, like a lot of people don't know that
• 1:30:46
  Nick was Nick was doing it. He was right there at the
• 1:30:49
  beginning. Yeah, I'm pretty sure which
• 1:30:51
  drift Alliance and everything he was doing.
• 1:30:52
  Like, he, I talked to him a little bit about his car like
• 1:30:55
  that car was a showcase for right-hand Drive swaps back,
• 1:30:58
  when that was a thing, because he was, yeah, you know what I
• 1:31:00
  mean, you needed to do that because you couldn't just import
• 1:31:03
  the car. Now, you can drop us big.
• 1:31:05
  Yeah, yeah. And and that car, that his right
• 1:31:08
  hand drive Jay-Z car, is he build it like from scratch you
• 1:31:12
  know, cut the firewall out of it, did all that stuff and
• 1:31:15
  people see it and they're like, oh still, that's cool.
• 1:31:17
  There's a million of those but it's like that.
• 1:31:19
  One is interesting because it was I loved his black car.
• 1:31:22
  Yeah, the Sylvia. Yeah, I love that car.
• 1:31:24
  But what we hope, I mean, I hope to eventually like, do that on
• 1:31:28
  this podcast, but I'm kind of gonna, I'm gonna wait a little
• 1:31:31
  bit, let it grow before I start inviting people like, Matt Petty
• 1:31:34
  on here because I, yeah, save one of the heat for when you're
• 1:31:37
  bigger. Yeah, my dream, one of my dreams
• 1:31:39
  with this is to get Matt and Tim on here together and talk about
• 1:31:43
  everything because I would learn a lot.
• 1:31:45
  Yeah, it would be fun. Well what I'm not gonna learn
• 1:31:49
  anything. Well, not be there.
• 1:31:52
  No, no I was just, you know, I would learn a lot.
• 1:31:55
  I don't know everything. There is about like I didn't
• 1:31:57
  even know about that drifting grip thing.
• 1:31:59
  Yeah, yeah. It's, I mean, it's it's pretty
• 1:32:02
  cool. Like, you know, The multiple of
• 1:32:05
  the blood Masters have been an FD, a couple of them still are,
• 1:32:08
  you know what I mean? Like the drift Alliance was in
• 1:32:11
  Need for Speed. Yeah.
• 1:32:12
  Like nobody remembers that drift Alliance was featured in Need
• 1:32:15
  for Speed ProStreet. You know what I mean?
• 1:32:17
  Like their logos were in a video game.
• 1:32:19
  Oh 10 years ago. Holy shit.
• 1:32:21
  Yeah that's the most likely Need for Speed forsberg and Turk and
• 1:32:25
  in fact when I went to these guys don't even know what
• 1:32:27
  Drifter Alliance is like I would bring that shit up.
• 1:32:29
  Yeah. Stop.
• 1:32:32
  Stop capping. Oh, what was that?
• 1:32:36
  I think we're gonna. And know.
• 1:32:42
  They the they had like that series on Turks YouTube that
• 1:32:46
  early YouTube channel, that Turk had where they were like What
• 1:32:51
  the fuck? It was it it was just it was
• 1:32:53
  just a group of them that was just a name for it.
• 1:32:54
  The alliance and then they did look like anything serious but
• 1:32:57
  they did like a frame where they went and shit like think about
• 1:33:01
  all the talent that came from this part of the world, you know
• 1:33:04
  forsberg. Turk?
• 1:33:05
  Yeah, Junior. They're all Club, loose alumni.
• 1:33:09
  And then all the talent that stayed at Club loose too.
• 1:33:11
  Like, you know, hot, like, did you see hops new car like,
• 1:33:14
  that's that's gonna be Wild Gonna Be Wild.
• 1:33:16
  You know what I mean? Which car is it?
• 1:33:18
  He's I don't know how much horsepower it makes but 800,000
• 1:33:21
  whatever v8 car that he had built.
• 1:33:23
  You know, do you know? Brian hot know?
• 1:33:25
  Okay, so this is this is what I mean.
• 1:33:27
  Like, he doesn't know that person, but when we show him
• 1:33:29
  Brian, Hofstra driving, yeah, you lost cars, like the maybe
• 1:33:34
  buy the car that 13, the VQ swap.
• 1:33:36
  That's 13. What calls it right?
• 1:33:39
  There's Colonel Mustard. There's a green one.
• 1:33:41
  There's the gray one. There's the one that's like red
• 1:33:44
  and black I think that's the one that looks like an old scca car.
• 1:33:48
  Like when I used to if I was ever a brown SR20 Coupe that the
• 1:33:52
  red VQ car I know. But one thing that I feel like
• 1:33:56
  you always forget is like I have been kind of in here for a
• 1:34:00
  little while, but when I got in a drifting in cars that like
• 1:34:04
  really got into it, I was late. And but the thing is, you guys
• 1:34:08
  were not going to Club loose that much.
• 1:34:09
  Yeah, I mean, I'm talking about like there's just a general
• 1:34:12
  Fascination fascination of cars has been there but like Being
• 1:34:16
  more Hands-On with it and wanting to do shit with it and
• 1:34:18
  wanting to actually take a car out on a track that shit.
• 1:34:21
  I'm I was late like, not that late, but yeah, I think it was
• 1:34:25
  just because if you went to Club loose when you started drifting,
• 1:34:27
  you would know all I would. But because because you would
• 1:34:30
  see them Drifting in a group and be like what the fuck?
• 1:34:33
  I didn't even know about any of that.
• 1:34:35
  Me and Chris didn't go to Club lose or anything until like
• 1:34:38
  after like you started working at.
• 1:34:41
  Yeah, or something. Yeah, my first time I was after
• 1:34:44
  working here. Yeah I remember we were on the
• 1:34:47
  way to a private day and Chris goes.
• 1:34:49
  I was my first day driving her. I was like, excuse me.
• 1:34:51
  Yeah, I was like dumbfounded. I was like what?
• 1:34:54
  I was known you for like five years and you never been to Club
• 1:34:57
  loose, Chris and I went to try to really for your height is
• 1:35:02
  From 20 years. Yeah, he didn't really drive or
• 1:35:04
  anything like that he would drift around on the street and
• 1:35:07
  shit and I didn't go to an event for four years.
• 1:35:09
  Oh yeah. But the thing is just so funny,
• 1:35:12
  like, I guess I'm gonna that track.
• 1:35:15
  I'm like, what we tried to go try though.
• 1:35:17
  Yeah, we tried to go remember the story when we failed Tech or
• 1:35:22
  whatever at oh, you know, East Coast bash and like then after
• 1:35:26
  that, Chris, never went back, I went back and I drove back
• 1:35:28
  course, a couple of times you all were like, fuck.
• 1:35:31
  That text shit. I ain't going after that.
• 1:35:35
  We build our cars. Pretty decent going to race it.
• 1:35:38
  I'm trying to crack know, it was just intimidating.
• 1:35:41
  Yeah, it is. Yeah, people always say that,
• 1:35:44
  that's why I say now, I'm like, if you want to go do it, like go
• 1:35:48
  do it and don't be scared. Because like I wish somebody was
• 1:35:51
  like, yo, just that would have been me.
• 1:35:53
  I would like you were one of the people.
• 1:35:55
  I was scared of. I was like, look at this guy,
• 1:35:57
  long ass hair and shit. That's Leo what happened?
• 1:35:59
  Because me and call Winter. My my helmet was expired.
• 1:36:03
  They didn't allow open face. Yeah, walk around the pills like
• 1:36:06
  looking for helmets. Somebody's gotta have like a
• 1:36:08
  helmet. Did someone stop driving or
• 1:36:10
  something? And I came across me Oggy He's
• 1:36:14
  like, oh, maybe one of the other guys do.
• 1:36:16
  Yeah, Miyagi doesn't Miyagi didn't know you like that back
• 1:36:19
  then. No, and then like, rocks.
• 1:36:21
  He points at the your tent, with all your cars.
• 1:36:24
  And I see this black tent, everybody wearing black and I'm
• 1:36:27
  like, I think I'm good. That's so fun.
• 1:36:32
  I wasn't the social butterfly that I was now, you know, but
• 1:36:35
  you knew me there. We I think I didn't know you
• 1:36:39
  like that. I knew of you, the car, I knew.
• 1:36:41
  Well, we wouldn't want to learn a helmet out anyway, so don't
• 1:36:44
  worry about it, right? No, because I, I hate learning
• 1:36:46
  helmets out. Yeah, I didn't want to be that
• 1:36:48
  guy. Yeah, that that's hilarious.
• 1:36:51
  Yeah, no, I, I did know you from afar but luckily, I that year, I
• 1:36:54
  emailed Clues. I was like, hey, is there
• 1:36:56
  anyway? I could put my admission towards
• 1:36:58
  a different event and they said, yeah.
• 1:36:59
  And then I didn't hear from four years.
• 1:37:01
  Yeah. So, back to Drifting icon.
• 1:37:05
  Frankie vivino. All right.
• 1:37:07
  You, you trailered your car to Southern California.
• 1:37:11
  Hell, yeah. With a 1500 Chevrolet is that
• 1:37:14
  correct? Hell yeah.
• 1:37:15
  So drive it every day, it's still here.
• 1:37:17
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:37:18
  So how was that experience? That was the best experience in
• 1:37:21
  my life, I'd say? Yeah.
• 1:37:23
  Yeah, I'd say. So he says it right at the top,
• 1:37:25
  the only other one would be my trip to Arizona.
• 1:37:27
  What's a motorcycle? That was pretty.
• 1:37:29
  Yeah. But one of the good ones was
• 1:37:33
  nothing to do at drifting me saying it was the best time of
• 1:37:36
  my life. No drifting.
• 1:37:37
  I don't ya. You enjoy the journey going
• 1:37:39
  there. Yeah.
• 1:37:41
  Seeing the whole country. Well I wanted to drive across
• 1:37:43
  the country with my friends forever.
• 1:37:45
  That was my dream, right? And then I made it happen and we
• 1:37:49
  got to drift a little bit, my car, my transfer up.
• 1:37:51
  So and I honestly I didn't give a fuk I really didn't care.
• 1:37:55
  That's all they had a trans there.
• 1:37:56
  I was having a blast even said he was ready to do it.
• 1:37:59
  Yeah, they all wanted to fix it. I was like I don't want to shit.
• 1:38:02
  Dude. When you break do you stay in.
• 1:38:03
  Watch? I didn't that night.
• 1:38:05
  I remember that. I was so bummed and just like,
• 1:38:09
  frustrated, distraught. Yeah, all my friends were.
• 1:38:12
  Remember, I went right back to the Airbnb and went to sleep,
• 1:38:15
  which is funny because they actually drifted that whole
• 1:38:17
  night. I heard All night, all night.
• 1:38:20
  That's sick to the morning. I'm pretty sure they might stop
• 1:38:22
  for two hours. Yeah.
• 1:38:25
  So our Clips are super D at night time.
• 1:38:28
  Yeah. I don't know.
• 1:38:29
  Dude, that's why I did not know that was happening.
• 1:38:31
  That's well, because it's, it's a Matsuri.
• 1:38:35
  Yeah, that was the first one I ever went to and I wasn't there
• 1:38:37
  at night. I want to go there so bad and I
• 1:38:40
  want to drive so bad. That track was so dangerous.
• 1:38:42
  Well, it was for your car. Yeah.
• 1:38:45
  And not dangerous. Like, you're gonna get hurt.
• 1:38:46
  It's like drop offs on the edges.
• 1:38:48
  Right? Ridiculous.
• 1:38:49
  Yeah. Like what was worse when you
• 1:38:51
  went? Yeah.
• 1:38:52
  Now I heard they developed a little bit.
• 1:38:54
  Yeah. And then people like like Joshua
• 1:38:57
  was better before because it was scary, you know.
• 1:38:59
  And it's like yeah, I agree with that but it makes it harder.
• 1:39:02
  It's um, I wouldn't even honestly, I probably wouldn't
• 1:39:05
  even Unless I could like, take all my arrow off and really nail
• 1:39:10
  that first turn and get it down. I wasn't even that interested in
• 1:39:14
  driving it, that's how violent it was, right?
• 1:39:15
  The second. I and not, don't forget I of
• 1:39:19
  course I redid my whole car before we went on this trip, so
• 1:39:21
  everything's brand new. And you know this thing you
• 1:39:24
  should definitely should not do when you're going to a new
• 1:39:26
  track. And so yeah, I just kept dump
• 1:39:28
  dropping a wheel and when you drop a wheel on that course your
• 1:39:32
  side skirts are getting destroyed because you're hitting
• 1:39:34
  the frame. You just bored sliding every
• 1:39:36
  single time. Alright, so my car was getting
• 1:39:40
  a, it was taking a lot of damage before the trans blew up and
• 1:39:43
  then the transverse it kind of was relief to be honest with you
• 1:39:47
  because I was like wow my car still kind of looks okay.
• 1:39:49
  And I don't need to do this shit anymore.
• 1:39:51
  Yeah. So that's the one thing I've
• 1:39:52
  noticed about about. I guess specifically tandem
• 1:39:55
  drivers like anybody who's gotten to that a group level?
• 1:39:58
  It's just like you can't help yourself once you're tandem.
• 1:40:01
  It's like, unless it breaks you'll just keep ya driving
• 1:40:06
  either. Attract that seems dangerous or
• 1:40:08
  or like conditions that aren't optimal or you know, whatever it
• 1:40:12
  is, it's Just like another thrill you're saying like like
• 1:40:15
  you don't you almost don't want to do it but you're like I hope
• 1:40:18
  I don't fuk up and then like yeah, keep going and most of the
• 1:40:22
  time you don't you you get to the end of that you're like that
• 1:40:24
  was crazy and then you know what I mean?
• 1:40:26
  I feel like I want to do that shit.
• 1:40:28
  Like that's a feeling I chase like that feeling of like, oh
• 1:40:30
  fuck. I'm scared of shit.
• 1:40:32
  Oh yeah. I feel like I almost shouldn't
• 1:40:34
  even say anything because my car doesn't run right now and I hear
• 1:40:37
  Josh and my head just laughing. I don't know what you're talking
• 1:40:39
  about, you don't drip. But there was a time when I
• 1:40:43
  remember like, I don't know when it was, Justin was still
• 1:40:47
  drifting. So it was a while ago and like,
• 1:40:49
  we finished, the cars were looking really good and we are
• 1:40:52
  at Club Blues. And I think it was my fault but
• 1:40:56
  we were entering XTC. Justin was leading.
• 1:40:59
  He's yeah. Give me some space because it's
• 1:41:01
  my first lab and of course I'm just like no.
• 1:41:03
  So we go and I'm like on his door and he like slows down so
• 1:41:08
  much and I just bang into him and I was like fuck like I was
• 1:41:13
  so angry not at him but yeah the situation right?
• 1:41:16
  I'm never really angry at the other driver.
• 1:41:18
  I'm using just angry at The situation, you not even angry at
• 1:41:22
  anyone, you're just angry at. Yourself almost because you're
• 1:41:25
  like, what am I? What am I doing?
• 1:41:26
  Like thing is I always replay this scenario going differently
• 1:41:29
  in my head. That's yeah, that's how it
• 1:41:31
  always goes. If I break something or if I'm
• 1:41:33
  like man if you just done something different you'd be
• 1:41:35
  you'd be out of the. Yeah, I mean everything would be
• 1:41:37
  fine. I don't do that.
• 1:41:39
  Thankfully. Yeah, that's my, that's my
• 1:41:40
  worst. I think you can't do that when
• 1:41:42
  you're drifting. It's not gonna work because it's
• 1:41:44
  gonna like You're gonna get so upset.
• 1:41:47
  You know what I mean? Like, you can't think of it like
• 1:41:50
  that. I feel like, you gotta just,
• 1:41:52
  like, you gotta let everything go, but I remember specifically
• 1:41:55
  in that moment. I don't know what I brought.
• 1:41:58
  I must have broke something like On the outside obviously.
• 1:42:01
  Yeah, nothing mechanically. I got back to the pit and I just
• 1:42:04
  remember looking at it and I was like, Fucking my doing.
• 1:42:07
  It was the one of those moments where I was like you can either
• 1:42:10
  Drive hard and not care. Or drive.
• 1:42:14
  I'm not gonna say like a bitch or like a pussy because there's
• 1:42:17
  a fine line, but more reserved and care about your car.
• 1:42:22
  And I was like, just standing there like, thinking, like, fuck
• 1:42:26
  dude. I'm trying to remember who
• 1:42:28
  walked over someone from the blood Master's or something
• 1:42:31
  walked over and like, They it was like, it was like one of
• 1:42:35
  those moments where you ever have one of those moments that
• 1:42:36
  like someone says something to you right in the right time.
• 1:42:39
  Yeah maybe when you're at like a low point and then they just
• 1:42:43
  bring you up. So high like he came over and
• 1:42:45
  just said like The right thing, right?
• 1:42:48
  And I was like, If you probably complimented our driving, that's
• 1:42:51
  probably what it was. Yeah.
• 1:42:52
  And I was like, Fuck like I can't be mad like this, dude.
• 1:42:58
  That's been doing this forever came over and was like, yo, that
• 1:43:01
  shit was sick, you guys are killing it and it's like, all
• 1:43:04
  right, well, do you think you suck?
• 1:43:06
  Like I don't think I suck but I don't think I'm as good as some
• 1:43:09
  people like to say I am like Carl.
• 1:43:11
  Yeah he's pretty good. I don't think I'm really because
• 1:43:13
  when I'm driving I do not. Know what I'm doing.
• 1:43:17
  That's why it's an, it's in that wild.
• 1:43:20
  Like, when people, yeah, to you, by this people try to ask me
• 1:43:23
  questions, technical questions, I have no idea.
• 1:43:25
  I can barely have a conversation with Josh about drifting and he
• 1:43:28
  knows that. Yeah, cuz he knows how I talked
• 1:43:30
  to him about drifting, he'll get technical and shit.
• 1:43:32
  And I, I'll just be like, Yeah. Like I don't have a response
• 1:43:37
  because I'm just like, I don't really fucking know.
• 1:43:39
  Like I just I know, like the general gist of what's going on,
• 1:43:43
  you know, like grip stuff like that.
• 1:43:45
  Like I get the idea. Like I could tell you when I
• 1:43:49
  don't have any grip. Yeah.
• 1:43:50
  But that's about it, right? Right.
• 1:43:52
  Yeah. I mean, like the angle thing.
• 1:43:55
  I don't like a lot of angle so I don't really have a problem with
• 1:43:57
  it I guess but like I can't really tell you exactly what's
• 1:43:59
  going on when I'm behind the wheel and it looks crazy.
• 1:44:02
  But I know people say that they're like yeah when they used
• 1:44:06
  to be like if we'd have the girls out, they'd be like.
• 1:44:07
  Yeah, when you when you drive with Justin It's like calm, cool
• 1:44:12
  collected. And like, technical maybe, and
• 1:44:18
  when you drive with Frankie, it's like you're going on a
• 1:44:20
  fucking roller coaster shit where you're like, You just
• 1:44:23
  screaming like what the fuck. Like no one's got control of
• 1:44:25
  this in a way? Yeah, me and Tom me and Tom are
• 1:44:30
  driving. Is the best to get really?
• 1:44:32
  Yeah by far. It's either him or Josh, but I
• 1:44:36
  want to say, it's him. Yeah, we me and Tom have had the
• 1:44:39
  most like memorable tandems together.
• 1:44:42
  But you're running a risk. Yeah, that's so I don't know how
• 1:44:48
  Tom drives. I never been in the car with him
• 1:44:49
  like I don't know if he's similar to me or not but I think
• 1:44:54
  I think Josh would be more similar to Justin's style
• 1:44:56
  probably at this point because Josh is very technical and
• 1:44:59
  Justin was like a Smooth Operator in the in the car like
• 1:45:02
  and he had a hydraulic hydraulic e-brake.
• 1:45:04
  So like once you have a hydraulic he break it already
• 1:45:06
  looks better in the car, right? Because it's like very relaxed
• 1:45:09
  fucking cable is like you're yanking that shit like.
• 1:45:13
  That's that's really what looks violent and it depends on how
• 1:45:17
  you moving your hands and shit. But yeah, I don't gonna say I
• 1:45:19
  watched some footage of myself and I like to think I'm pretty
• 1:45:22
  cleanly. Yeah, he could be How good?
• 1:45:27
  Handbrake. But yeah, handbrake cable snaps.
• 1:45:32
  I don't know where we're going with this with the, with the
• 1:45:34
  damage to the car. I think there was a question
• 1:45:36
  there somewhere. But, you know, just asking, like
• 1:45:38
  for someone who's been doing it for so long.
• 1:45:40
  Like, you know, I just as a relatability thing I guess.
• 1:45:44
  Yeah, there was a question someone that I am.
• 1:45:46
  I forgot but it slipped my mind but I was trying to answer
• 1:45:48
  something but I don't know. Yeah, there's some good
• 1:45:52
  information there. I guess, somehow I can
• 1:45:53
  definitely agree with you on the self-criticism.
• 1:45:56
  Like so many times when we go out to an event or drifting in
• 1:45:59
  general, and then someone's like, dude, you're fuking
• 1:46:00
  killing them like, well, that feels good.
• 1:46:02
  I'm doing it. Yeah, because I, because my son,
• 1:46:05
  I feel like I'm not driving to the capability that I want to be
• 1:46:08
  driving. Yeah, I mean that's good.
• 1:46:10
  And I, I relate to that, like, I guess in a way, I'm trying to
• 1:46:14
  think of like one day where I, I've not had more like I had a
• 1:46:17
  bad day. I'm just to me that time that I
• 1:46:21
  have out there is important to me, because this is what makes
• 1:46:24
  me happy right now. I'm not gonna let anything stop
• 1:46:27
  me from feeling happy. So like, if I'm out there, I
• 1:46:30
  don't care if the car is doing bad.
• 1:46:31
  I'm just gonna keep trying to do a little bit better and then I I
• 1:46:34
  just don't get mad at myself for, like not doing.
• 1:46:36
  I don't I go in, I go in there with no expectation except to
• 1:46:40
  have fun. That's it.
• 1:46:41
  I would place this for me that I don't feel anxious, which is
• 1:46:44
  weird. Yeah, because consider like,
• 1:46:46
  it's considerably dangerous more dangerous than other things that
• 1:46:51
  you could do. Yeah.
• 1:46:51
  But like the things that really like make you feel alive, at
• 1:46:55
  least like my my brain doesn't have the ability to think about
• 1:46:59
  what could go wrong because yeah too busy like focused on.
• 1:47:02
  Yeah I think I'm the same one. I'm actually driving it.
• 1:47:04
  I think I I do care a little bit less like my perfectionism
• 1:47:08
  doesn't come out in those moments like when you're
• 1:47:11
  drifting unless I break my car. Then I'm different.
• 1:47:15
  But like, if we're just driving and like, I don't do something.
• 1:47:17
  Exactly. Perfect or something like that.
• 1:47:19
  I don't give a fuk. Oh, that happens to me that
• 1:47:22
  happened at no frame, was the last one we do you care about
• 1:47:25
  that. Like, if someone comes out and
• 1:47:26
  they're like, oh, you're killing it.
• 1:47:27
  And then your head, you're like, well, I'm not linking that right
• 1:47:28
  did? That's you.
• 1:47:29
  That was you. There was a time, there was one
• 1:47:32
  of the laps I did, and it was pretty decent, but after the
• 1:47:36
  second turn, I felt it. I was like, oh, this lap is
• 1:47:39
  trash but I finished it anyways. Yeah, you're judging yourself
• 1:47:42
  waiting too much. Yeah, have fun out there, man.
• 1:47:44
  It's a fun thing to do and you're and you're actually good
• 1:47:47
  so it's just something. And you sucked.
• 1:47:49
  Then we'd be like everybody. Yeah.
• 1:47:52
  Work on it just like you know every good driver I've ever
• 1:47:55
  seen. Like wow you killed that lap or
• 1:47:56
  whatever. Like now I saw like rich white,
• 1:47:58
  man. Oh yeah, yeah.
• 1:47:59
  Can we talk about that man for a second?
• 1:48:01
  That's the worst driver on the grid.
• 1:48:02
  Apparently him apparently, you know, well but he's probably,
• 1:48:06
  he's probably got that perfectionist thought process
• 1:48:09
  while he's driving. Yeah, which is crazy.
• 1:48:11
  I have imagined my brain functioning at that.
• 1:48:14
  High of a level where I yeah, mid-drift and like this isn't
• 1:48:16
  right. Yeah.
• 1:48:17
  What I mean, but that's what I mean.
• 1:48:18
  You're still talking about someone who competes.
• 1:48:21
  Yeah, because Josh would probably say the same thing.
• 1:48:23
  Josh would be one of those people too.
• 1:48:24
  Yeah. Well, I think Josh comes in, on
• 1:48:27
  his driving on his podcast, where you saying he I think he
• 1:48:31
  was reaching his driver cap. He was like, oh out driving
• 1:48:34
  himself or something like that. Oh yeah.
• 1:48:35
  I think I had to do with the tracks.
• 1:48:37
  You can outdrive a car and the date.
• 1:48:39
  Now it was the Jay-Z stuff. The Jay-Z he was like, it took
• 1:48:42
  the fun out of it or something. It was like, almost it was easy.
• 1:48:44
  Yeah, exactly. Like yeah, like the engine I
• 1:48:48
  don't know. There's The only the again, the
• 1:48:52
  goal for me is just to like have fun like not to be cheesy, you
• 1:48:55
  can keep drifting fun or whatever but that's true.
• 1:48:58
  Like if it's a hobby just like you love photography and just
• 1:49:02
  like how people love working on their cars and shit that's like
• 1:49:05
  a hobby. So like I think that Like you
• 1:49:08
  gotta go out there and have fun. I'm not saying like you got to
• 1:49:11
  but like, try to enjoy even like the little shit like I had no
• 1:49:16
  fear moves, since that was one of the first events I've drifted
• 1:49:18
  with Chris and again years. Um, like I went out there and
• 1:49:24
  people and I'd be like ah, damn that that entry was kind of
• 1:49:27
  slow. Let me try to speed it up or
• 1:49:29
  something like that, and then I spent out and then I'm like, oh,
• 1:49:31
  that was fucking sick. This is like something that
• 1:49:34
  happens when you're doing something for a long time.
• 1:49:37
  Yeah. You know I mean that's true.
• 1:49:39
  Yeah. Because I were talking rich,
• 1:49:41
  white men Josh to Lee's like They're trying to perfect.
• 1:49:45
  Yeah like they're doing yeah I mean I'm an infant at the like
• 1:49:48
  or I'm like somebody who hasn't worked in the shop yet.
• 1:49:52
  Yeah. And and they're like, well on
• 1:49:54
  their way. But there's also different
• 1:49:55
  mentalities. Well, I guess you would say me
• 1:49:57
  and Kara novices to Drifting. I think we're pretty novice. you
• 1:50:01
  know, but like but like think of like, Chris, when you started
• 1:50:06
  drifting. You probably had, you probably
• 1:50:09
  didn't have that. Thought that the self-criticism?
• 1:50:11
  Yeah, because I was just having fun.
• 1:50:13
  Yeah. See that's what I'm getting at.
• 1:50:14
  My first event. Like.
• 1:50:18
  Oh yeah. Literally, the first, what was
• 1:50:20
  your first event? I instantly started modifying
• 1:50:22
  the car. Like I bought the car with with,
• 1:50:23
  you know, just coils seat Hamburg, son, emotions.
• 1:50:28
  Now, right? I'm sorry, I'm trying to picture
• 1:50:30
  seven hours and 57, actually. Yes.
• 1:50:33
  Okay, but the first thing I did was I added 15 degrees of angle
• 1:50:37
  and that's not because I feel like it's a crutch but it's
• 1:50:40
  because I felt like it was what I was used to.
• 1:50:43
  You know what I mean? Like I didn't want an angle kit
• 1:50:46
  like I didn't want to be able to crab walk used to in what way?
• 1:50:49
  From a Seto, that's what I thought.
• 1:50:50
  Yeah. So yeah.
• 1:50:51
  It was, you know, from Going to drift events, watching drifting
• 1:50:56
  being friends, and, and riding along with people who are good
• 1:51:00
  at drifting. Like, I spent a lot of time in
• 1:51:02
  the car with Rich. I spent a lot of time in the
• 1:51:04
  car, with, with Chris, you know, like the kiroshi guys, Chris
• 1:51:10
  now, Chris sandovan, the purple z, um, and then like a handful
• 1:51:15
  like Fred, you remember Fred like, yeah, I know Irish.
• 1:51:18
  Yeah. We know my first season, I rode
• 1:51:22
  with him like every event, and it was just like spending time
• 1:51:25
  in the car with those people. I wasn't just like, like, haha,
• 1:51:28
  this is so fun. Like I was watching and paying
• 1:51:30
  attention and stuff. So I think a lot of people,
• 1:51:32
  dismissed people who, you know, start out and like, kill it
• 1:51:37
  immediately, either because money, which is kind of valid.
• 1:51:40
  If you're like a 15 year old who's killing it, as good as
• 1:51:44
  someone whose there's a lot of those been doing it forever.
• 1:51:46
  That's that's like kind of valid because they just bought the the
• 1:51:50
  experience and yeah stuff away. That's like a resource thing.
• 1:51:53
  I like to just say real quick There aren't there are I guess
• 1:51:56
  you would call them Naturals. You think that you thinking
• 1:52:00
  there could be natural? I think I guess it.
• 1:52:02
  I think I would be one. I don't know what.
• 1:52:03
  I don't want to like saying that I'm not saying natural like oh
• 1:52:06
  you're a pro. I'm just saying natural.
• 1:52:07
  Like you just get it when you when you get in the car.
• 1:52:10
  Yeah. That was kind of like me.
• 1:52:11
  Like I had to learn how to do donuts in a parking lot, a
• 1:52:15
  couple nights. And then after that, it was kind
• 1:52:17
  of just like All right, I understand what's going on here.
• 1:52:20
  I mean, I'll admit straight up that I can't drift a stock angle
• 1:52:24
  car. Oh damn.
• 1:52:25
  That's all I know. I do not used to it.
• 1:52:27
  I want a little bit more because I like the way that you should
• 1:52:31
  go out of your way to learn how to do that.
• 1:52:33
  Yeah. Or well, like, kind of like, I
• 1:52:36
  learned. So I learned that's on a set of
• 1:52:38
  as well. So, that's kind of crazy that
• 1:52:40
  it's on the contrary I learned in honest, I actually do there
• 1:52:44
  was a game I played before I said, of course, I don't know
• 1:52:46
  how familiar you are with, like a gaming and shit, but it was
• 1:52:48
  called live for Speed. Well, before I said, of course,
• 1:52:51
  is time. Well before our factors time,
• 1:52:53
  which is before I said, oh, and live for Speed.
• 1:52:56
  The Cars had not nearly as much angle.
• 1:52:58
  So, when I learned, and I was playing on on live for Speed, I
• 1:53:01
  would get do that, get in the fucking 240.
• 1:53:04
  Go to a parking lot, do this shit and then I'm like oh that
• 1:53:07
  was kind of cool. So I guess I it just like the
• 1:53:10
  concept of counter steer and and pushing force with the rear
• 1:53:14
  wheels. I think Chris is the same way
• 1:53:15
  too that click quick. I know it clicked with you
• 1:53:17
  really fast Chris but some people struggle, some people do
• 1:53:21
  struggle. Yeah, I will bring up so I see
• 1:53:23
  what you're saying and definitely like if I was getting
• 1:53:25
  into a setup by myself I probably would have gone that
• 1:53:28
  route of like learning how to drift and making all those
• 1:53:32
  failures but like my group of people was was rich.
• 1:53:35
  Yeah it was Damian from smile Factory.
• 1:53:37
  There was another person in the group that didn't drift when
• 1:53:41
  when we got into a set, oh, and that's Chad with the Miata from
• 1:53:45
  kiroshi. Okay?
• 1:53:46
  So like he got that Miata and then instantly was just like
• 1:53:48
  like all of the studying, you know, that you do.
• 1:53:52
  Once you get the once you get control of your adrenaline, you
• 1:53:56
  can just make the car, do what you want it to do.
• 1:53:58
  As you already have all that theory from the from the
• 1:54:01
  simulator. You know, for me the hardest
• 1:54:03
  part was like I would I would do it like a hot lap come in and
• 1:54:09
  like my legs and arms and everything.
• 1:54:11
  I still have that, I'm just like, holy shit.
• 1:54:13
  I still have that after, you know what I mean?
• 1:54:15
  Yeah. So once you get once you're able
• 1:54:17
  to exactly. That's so that's, that's what
• 1:54:18
  sucks for me. Because I instantly went from
• 1:54:22
  That first feeling of that to getting that under control and
• 1:54:25
  then being like, all right, I want to tan now because like I
• 1:54:27
  know how to do it. I've already done it.
• 1:54:28
  Yeah, I've done it for years but I haven't done it in a real car.
• 1:54:32
  So once I got the car down. So that's why I like that last
• 1:54:35
  event. I did in at RSD, I tandems all
• 1:54:38
  day and like it was a absolute blast.
• 1:54:41
  You know, some people would say it was too soon for me, I guess
• 1:54:44
  because there's, you know, just certain channels.
• 1:54:47
  It's takes longer you. Yeah, you work your way up.
• 1:54:49
  But, like, after after my first few laps following people were
• 1:54:53
  coming up to me. Like, dude, you fucking Slade
• 1:54:55
  like, where have you been hiding this?
• 1:54:56
  I'm like, I don't know behind a bank account and responsibility.
• 1:54:58
  Well, I mean like also because like you Know One's Gonna know
• 1:55:02
  how you can tan him until you do it right?
• 1:55:04
  You know, I mean like if you keep people out of it because
• 1:55:07
  you feel that they can't do it because they haven't been doing
• 1:55:09
  it long enough. Then that's that's valid.
• 1:55:11
  If you don't want to take a risk on somebody.
• 1:55:12
  Well, my opinion on. That is only basically one thing
• 1:55:16
  if you think you're ready and all the people you're gonna
• 1:55:19
  drive with think you're ready. That's fine.
• 1:55:22
  But do you know how to avoid crashing?
• 1:55:24
  So that's the other thing. That's the only thing that
• 1:55:26
  really matters. I force myself in a Seto to not
• 1:55:28
  crash in a video game. Okay.
• 1:55:30
  That was my goal like, when everything was happening.
• 1:55:32
  I was like, you're, if you're gonna, if you're gonna come out
• 1:55:34
  and say, oh, I just said, oh, so I can drive, you have to learn
• 1:55:38
  everything about drifting. So one of those things for me
• 1:55:40
  was bailing and yeah, during that during that, Ready, Set
• 1:55:44
  drift event, I had to bail three separate times.
• 1:55:46
  Like, there were three avoided accidents that I was in, whether
• 1:55:50
  it was the car in front of me spinning one more, I spawn, you
• 1:55:53
  know, like one where they were cars behind me and I had to get
• 1:55:56
  out of their way. I think me personally.
• 1:55:58
  I think that's the most important part, and that's why I
• 1:56:01
  would tell someone, maybe in your situation or these guys.
• 1:56:04
  Like, that's why you go to Club Blues because you will learn
• 1:56:07
  those things. Yeah, you need to learn the
• 1:56:08
  situational awareness. Yeah, I don't know that right
• 1:56:12
  when I was in a group, like, I didn't learn that.
• 1:56:14
  As I was angry. I for somehow, I just knew and
• 1:56:16
  that's what happens, like you the way, you're the way you're
• 1:56:18
  bumped up and you move up, you and everyone talking to you and
• 1:56:22
  teaching you things while you're on grid.
• 1:56:24
  Uh, you just learned things like that.
• 1:56:26
  So but think about it. I've shot over 50 Club loose
• 1:56:30
  events. That's who you've been watching
• 1:56:31
  and yeah, I went to the clinics too and paid attention at the
• 1:56:35
  clinics. Yeah, even though I couldn't
• 1:56:37
  afford to drive, you know, I still went and like listened to
• 1:56:40
  Petty like when, you know, I try to run a wide line so that
• 1:56:44
  anybody behind you can follow and not get choked up, you know,
• 1:56:47
  like all that stuff. It wasn't wasted.
• 1:56:50
  It wasn't. I wasn't just there like
• 1:56:51
  snapping photos for your good. You're very good listener too.
• 1:56:54
  Yeah, thank you. Yeah.
• 1:56:56
  I get that Vibe. So is, uh, is a tool again and
• 1:57:00
  also can be a curse But I don't know, I think it's pretty good
• 1:57:04
  overall, it is it again, but it could teach you how bad it could
• 1:57:07
  teach you how to give you an over sense of confidence and an
• 1:57:11
  expectation. For the car that is unrealistic,
• 1:57:13
  which I can say that. I had that, like my first my
• 1:57:17
  first time out with the, with the G was I, I went to East
• 1:57:20
  coaster at school. Shout-out.
• 1:57:21
  Shout out to Chris now. Yeah.
• 1:57:25
  East Coast your school. You want to, you want to
• 1:57:27
  handsome man? To teach you how to drift East
• 1:57:30
  Coast drift school. Yeah.
• 1:57:31
  Anyways and you'll learn how to drift too.
• 1:57:33
  Yes. Yeah.
• 1:57:34
  Well he's I mean he's great. You should definitely know.
• 1:57:37
  Yeah, he's the freaking best every time.
• 1:57:40
  Educating the future over there. Yeah, no sorry.
• 1:57:43
  But yeah, he's got school. I'm trying to get Christmas.
• 1:57:46
  So, I was Pockets. I have been on, you know, not
• 1:57:50
  yet, we're he's an, he's on, he's on the list, but wait a
• 1:57:54
  little bit for that. Oh my God, that'd be, he's got,
• 1:57:55
  I'm sure he's a great one. Oh, yeah, he grew up.
• 1:57:58
  I know, dude. You know what I mean?
• 1:57:59
  It's gonna be crazy. Well, he grew up.
• 1:58:01
  I watched him grow up too right? Yeah right and another person I
• 1:58:05
  can't wait is Gabe Korea? Oh yeah.
• 1:58:07
  You want to talk about a natural Talent?
• 1:58:11
  Well, he's also born in it, right?
• 1:58:12
  Exactly, yeah, so but that's what I would say, Dave, too.
• 1:58:17
  Yeah you don't know Dave yet I don't think Young Dave that
• 1:58:20
  works here. He's a 16 year old.
• 1:58:23
  Apprentice will actually will soon be turning 17.
• 1:58:27
  But he just bought his first car.
• 1:58:29
  He doesn't even drive on the street.
• 1:58:30
  Yet, he has a permit. And they went to a private day.
• 1:58:34
  I want to say what back in the summer, mmm.
• 1:58:37
  Oh, I was there, he was he's able to you know drift around
• 1:58:41
  one turn but he was having a hard time figuring out how to
• 1:58:43
  transition to the second to a second turn.
• 1:58:46
  He's doing back course reverse. Yeah.
• 1:58:48
  Oh okay and he eventually got it but yeah we're all just it's the
• 1:58:53
  last ride and then this actually YouTube on it.
• 1:58:55
  A YouTube video on. Yes, the filming.
• 1:58:57
  Yeah. We stopped filming because
• 1:58:58
  you're like a standing today. We're gonna leave and then Dave
• 1:59:00
  just fucking comes around looking ripping up.
• 1:59:04
  He linked the turn after two turn.
• 1:59:06
  Yeah just going. Yeah he finally linked it and
• 1:59:08
  we're like look at and we're like who the fuck is that and
• 1:59:12
  we're like that's Dave what the fuck like all the sudden he just
• 1:59:15
  it just all the sudden clicked and he just killed it.
• 1:59:17
  Yeah I'm really what. But yeah that's another person
• 1:59:20
  didn't spend a lot of time behind a wheel.
• 1:59:22
  Yeah and yeah yeah but there's a difference between Dave and Gabe
• 1:59:27
  that there is a big difference. I literally, I seen Gabe.
• 1:59:31
  Like as a six year old seven year old kid?
• 1:59:33
  Yeah. At at Sneaky Pete's like hanging
• 1:59:36
  out like with everyone. Like I was like, what the fuck?
• 1:59:40
  I mean, I don't I mean I remember when he was a kid too.
• 1:59:42
  Yeah, he's an adult now but like it's crazy.
• 1:59:45
  But yeah, it's, it's wild watching people grow up like
• 1:59:48
  that, you know. And you're just like this kid's
• 1:59:49
  gonna be a fuk. He's driving Kevin's hatch, too.
• 1:59:51
  He's gonna drive it. Yeah, remember when you guys
• 1:59:54
  yelled at me for calling you guys old Yeah.
• 1:59:57
  Well, I don't do it in a mean way.
• 1:59:59
  Like you. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:00:01
  Right. But yeah, I went out there
• 2:00:03
  thinking that it was just gonna rip like right away.
• 2:00:06
  I spent the whole day angry and that sucks.
• 2:00:10
  Yeah, you know what I mean? Like in terms of expectations it
• 2:00:12
  really took me down a peg. I didn't have enough tires.
• 2:00:15
  So like that was another issue like a burned through tires.
• 2:00:18
  You know, they were like delaminating.
• 2:00:21
  So that was like the part of it that I had no idea about.
• 2:00:23
  I didn't know how to prepare for an event.
• 2:00:25
  I didn't know how to do that stuff so that's why that was
• 2:00:27
  part of the reason I went to East Coast drift school too was
• 2:00:30
  because I didn't want to fail in front of all my friends.
• 2:00:32
  You know, that seems to be a big thing.
• 2:00:35
  Lately like everyone is that that's why?
• 2:00:38
  I mean that's why Chris is doing pretty good because no one wants
• 2:00:42
  to drift in front of people when they don't know what they're
• 2:00:44
  doing. Yeah that yeah.
• 2:00:46
  They want the one-on-one, you know?
• 2:00:47
  Yeah. But like because I think that
• 2:00:50
  was a big thing. When I was learning how to drift
• 2:00:53
  it was like all right now you got to go out and suck and we're
• 2:00:55
  all gonna watch. Yeah, like and that was a thing.
• 2:00:57
  Like it wasn't like it was almost.
• 2:01:00
  It was almost said just like that.
• 2:01:01
  Like literally it's like I mean I at the amount of drivers
• 2:01:04
  meetings, I've been at where they just yeah, roast the roast.
• 2:01:07
  But I'm talking like my friends like all right, we're gonna go
• 2:01:09
  your friends are gonna come watch.
• 2:01:11
  We're gonna come watch you suck and it's like, all right, but
• 2:01:14
  like I remember not giving a fuk like, I don't know.
• 2:01:16
  Yeah, I feel like, but now it's different and everyone cares.
• 2:01:21
  It's really weird. And I think it's fucking dude,
• 2:01:23
  Instagram, dude. I feel like, I feel like the
• 2:01:25
  thing that I was hyped about most was that like Like yo at
• 2:01:30
  the track. I'm about to go on the track.
• 2:01:32
  Like this is gonna be sick. Yeah that's the part because
• 2:01:35
  that was still that was still. That was no you can't you care
• 2:01:39
  about that stuff. When you started not really I
• 2:01:41
  was just there because I wanted to like As a kid, right?
• 2:01:45
  Like and my dad has yet to come to one but like Fuck you.
• 2:01:50
  Dad come to a drift event, he's not gonna listen to shit if you
• 2:01:54
  do that. I'm so sorry.
• 2:01:54
  I didn't mean to curse at you. But like it's it's always like
• 2:01:59
  as a kid. You're like, fuck like You know,
• 2:02:01
  I can't believe I'm here. I'm about to drive on a
• 2:02:05
  racetrack right now. I was in a parking lot but yeah.
• 2:02:07
  Yeah I get like and you're like you're like no no.
• 2:02:11
  My first event was ready, set drift.
• 2:02:14
  It was South. Yeah.
• 2:02:14
  So it was a track. It looked like a circuit and I
• 2:02:17
  was like damn this is going to happen like holy fuck like
• 2:02:19
  right, no one went. To the first, my first drift
• 2:02:24
  event. It was just me.
• 2:02:24
  I think I was solo and I went that with a car, that was
• 2:02:28
  terrible. I had a single cam Ka, like I
• 2:02:31
  was just happy to be there. That's the way you do it.
• 2:02:33
  Like, and no one was there. And then the next time,
• 2:02:37
  obviously, I tried to Rally a group.
• 2:02:38
  I'm like, yo, this thing is actually sick.
• 2:02:41
  Like, you guys would love it. I can have you in the car if you
• 2:02:43
  want. Like, it would be so fun, like I
• 2:02:45
  had a blast. Like that's that's how it,
• 2:02:48
  that's how it's similar to me. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:02:50
  You were just there to have fun and yeah, I want to compare it
• 2:02:53
  to something real quick while I have this on my mind.
• 2:02:54
  You remember, when you started skateboarding?
• 2:02:55
  Yeah. And you sucked.
• 2:02:57
  Yeah. Did you care?
• 2:03:00
  Oh I was out the womb Tony Hawk Pro.
• 2:03:02
  I'm just saying. Did anyone care?
• 2:03:04
  Like you go skating with your friends?
• 2:03:06
  Like, everyone's like yo, you saw you fucking loser, you
• 2:03:09
  together. Well actually my first event I
• 2:03:12
  was I kind of felt bad guys sucked.
• 2:03:15
  Okay, that's fine. I'm talking about skateboarding.
• 2:03:17
  What, what was that, when was that?
• 2:03:21
  Well, I mean, we were comparing it to like drift starting out
• 2:03:24
  drifting. No, no, you're saying when you
• 2:03:26
  start drifting? Yeah, yeah, you felt you, you're
• 2:03:29
  feeling like how I'm explaining, how kids are feeling these days.
• 2:03:32
  Right, which event did I go like you're embarrassed or something
• 2:03:35
  cuz you're bad or something that's what you're saying.
• 2:03:37
  What else? Keep putting.
• 2:03:38
  It was younger. Yeah, at that time.
• 2:03:40
  I didn't care. Yeah.
• 2:03:42
  When I got older and I but I think it's I think it's the same
• 2:03:44
  shit, dude, I guess, I don't know, or you should or people
• 2:03:48
  should at least view it the same way.
• 2:03:49
  Like, You're starting a new hobby.
• 2:03:52
  Yeah, you suck. Everybody had to start from
• 2:03:55
  something. I felt the same way when I went
• 2:03:57
  to my first skate park which was dropping skatepark.
• 2:04:00
  And I saw, okay. And then it in comparison.
• 2:04:03
  When I first went to my first drift, man, I ready, said drift
• 2:04:06
  and I sucked. I still feel the same.
• 2:04:08
  Okay, well now we're getting somewhere else.
• 2:04:09
  Now, we're making a different connection, Maybe It's because
• 2:04:13
  you read a skate park which is kind of like a racetrack.
• 2:04:15
  That is like a racist thing going to actual place for the
• 2:04:19
  type of activity you're doing. Okay.
• 2:04:22
  I was over here doing kickflips in my or trying to do kickflips
• 2:04:24
  in my driveway. You know, it really how you were
• 2:04:27
  raced though too. Maybe.
• 2:04:28
  Yeah. I guess, you know, because we
• 2:04:30
  were at Night Moves. And that's where my first event
• 2:04:33
  was. And that was just a mentality
• 2:04:36
  and it was like, yeah. Like you're gonna suck and we're
• 2:04:38
  gonna laugh at you. I've always just been personally
• 2:04:40
  just been super self-critical. Yeah.
• 2:04:42
  Yeah. Why you strike me as somebody
• 2:04:44
  who's and please? I hope you don't take offenses.
• 2:04:47
  Like a perfectionist, did you do everything is perfected at to a
• 2:04:51
  point? Yeah.
• 2:04:51
  But in your eyes it's not. Yeah.
• 2:04:53
  Well, it's it also comes to like a, you know, it can prevent you
• 2:04:57
  from doing or at least me from doing things in general.
• 2:04:59
  Like, if I build it up too big in my head, I'm just like,
• 2:05:02
  you're never gonna get it that good.
• 2:05:03
  Don't do it. So, you're telling yourself
• 2:05:05
  that. Yeah, yeah, it happens.
• 2:05:07
  Sometimes like the Z, the Z is a, is a crazy anomaly in my
• 2:05:10
  life. I wanted that so bad.
• 2:05:12
  I wanted it so bad that I just, I mean, I'm into that thing for
• 2:05:16
  tens of thousands of dollars. Yeah, don't tell yourself that?
• 2:05:18
  I don't know. I don't know.
• 2:05:20
  The total. I was never told people that
• 2:05:22
  know that number or cycle hurts. My little brother has a fucking
• 2:05:25
  list for each of his cars. Yes.
• 2:05:27
  He's a lunatic but like that's another example of something
• 2:05:29
  where, you know, I roll to whatever it is and people, you
• 2:05:33
  know, say to me like this is so Sick, you know, I, I don't
• 2:05:36
  normally like these. I love that one.
• 2:05:37
  That's my yeah. These, these ones are usually
• 2:05:40
  terrible. But yours is really cool and I'm
• 2:05:42
  like, well, no one, no one notifies, those really rightly.
• 2:05:46
  Well, I like yours because it's again, remember on a previous
• 2:05:49
  episode that, that little bit of Giving a fuk, it shows that you
• 2:05:54
  gave a fuk like it's fitted. Nice, the paint, the the light
• 2:05:59
  imagine, if that line was crooked a little bit like and it
• 2:06:03
  looked all shoddy, it would not have the same presence on the
• 2:06:06
  road because it is really done, really well, the police car
• 2:06:10
  police, I spent way too much time on that.
• 2:06:13
  Yeah, that that is like again. Like, yeah, you have that
• 2:06:17
  little. Oh, are you talking about the
• 2:06:18
  z32? You're talking about the Z, but
• 2:06:20
  me sideways. So, like you go like when you go
• 2:06:23
  to final bout, like, it's, it's I think it is just the internet,
• 2:06:26
  right? You can see.
• 2:06:27
  I think it's the internet examples of better work.
• 2:06:30
  It's it's like, like if I I think my car sick, right?
• 2:06:34
  If I rolled up and Dom from gold star was there, I'm like your
• 2:06:38
  car still kind of sick, his name.
• 2:06:40
  Yeah, yeah. It's always the Grass Is Always
• 2:06:47
  Greener like, oh yeah, you drive across country drifted it all
• 2:06:50
  weekend. I got to ride along at home, you
• 2:06:52
  know. Like but I always like oh the
• 2:06:54
  interior is really cool and like yeah, here's pretty stock or
• 2:06:57
  like you know, this is done to it or that's done to it, you
• 2:07:00
  know. So like its it can be hard but
• 2:07:02
  with that for some reason I just didn't think about that.
• 2:07:04
  I was just like I'm making a car that people hate a car that they
• 2:07:09
  like and it's the same thing with the G like, you know, I
• 2:07:12
  really hate geez. Every time I tell someone that I
• 2:07:14
  have the G, they're just like, oh It's becoming like a drift
• 2:07:19
  car, it's this and and then I go, that's pretty sick.
• 2:07:21
  And I'm like, yeah, and I did it for 500 bucks, you know, like
• 2:07:24
  it's all about vision and style and execution is well and and
• 2:07:28
  you definitely, again, strike me as somebody who will.
• 2:07:31
  Again, now that we talked about this too, you plan, you have a
• 2:07:35
  plan. Yeah.
• 2:07:36
  What I do it. I do it.
• 2:07:38
  The best I can. Yeah, when I was looking at, I
• 2:07:40
  was talking to you about AJ's Car.
• 2:07:42
  Oh yeah, yeah. It's just like I was enamored by
• 2:07:45
  that car because I'm like, I could tell how much effort was
• 2:07:48
  put into this like shit that you wouldn't even think of like like
• 2:07:50
  the fact that the rear tub is all sanded and pretty.
• 2:07:53
  And, you know, cleared and silver.
• 2:07:55
  Yeah. Like paint in the back and, and
• 2:07:58
  you were able to tell me specifically like I did that
• 2:08:00
  because of the D1 lights. Yeah, like old cars, you know,
• 2:08:04
  like I was aiming for that and it shows like it, literally AJ
• 2:08:09
  loves that, you have it, you had an inspiration.
• 2:08:11
  It took a while for me to, to get Away from the fact, like
• 2:08:16
  when you're when you're out there, right?
• 2:08:18
  Like, I remember being a kid and I would be not a kid but
• 2:08:21
  younger, and I'd be able to drift event and I'm like, damn.
• 2:08:24
  That person has that and that person has that.
• 2:08:26
  Like my shit is not near that. I've wished my shitt was near
• 2:08:31
  that. Now I growing up.
• 2:08:33
  I've managed to Veer away from that and shift my thought into
• 2:08:37
  like, damn. I want to do that.
• 2:08:39
  Like I'm like, try to go do that and gonna do that and then, and
• 2:08:43
  then go do that. Yeah.
• 2:08:45
  And then like, I never had a ceiling for myself and terms of
• 2:08:48
  right now, I'm in the process of hopefully trying to do
• 2:08:51
  something. I've never done before, which is
• 2:08:53
  like excerpt the amount of effort that I see yet.
• 2:08:55
  Final bout, like, I had my, I had minor that effort.
• 2:08:59
  Frankie doesn't think I could do it.
• 2:09:01
  He could I have mire that effort in this.
• 2:09:03
  It's really just like, you know, it's like days.
• 2:09:06
  You need to make sure you put time away for it.
• 2:09:09
  Otherwise, it will sit in your shop sitting and collecting just
• 2:09:13
  to me. Listen to me young paddle on,
• 2:09:15
  well, we'll get you. I, I just I've used that now as
• 2:09:18
  like a motivation and it makes me like so happy that I can
• 2:09:22
  think. And see that.
• 2:09:24
  I've clearly grown from that, even though sometimes I'm a
• 2:09:27
  dumbass and like, do shit that Frankie hates She should, man.
• 2:09:33
  Except one then, on that note on the final bout note.
• 2:09:36
  You just saved Carl. So the that's how I was gonna,
• 2:09:39
  thank you, go on fuck. So how did that, how did that
• 2:09:44
  end up happening for your team for faction and, and for Front
• 2:09:48
  Street, I guess, because you guys hold that thought this
• 2:09:50
  motherfuker brought up kbd the other day.
• 2:09:52
  Are you gonna put KVD on your car?
• 2:09:54
  Hold on a second. I'm not Matt Craig from Hays.
• 2:09:57
  Yes. Brought it up.
• 2:09:58
  I did I did. Because what is this guy want?
• 2:10:01
  Now, he said he wants you to admit that the that hit that the
• 2:10:04
  haze cars, look good. He has just cuz he said that he
• 2:10:07
  did. He did a couple times.
• 2:10:08
  Like there's only one group that does it Haze.
• 2:10:10
  Yeah, they do like that. Well, we judge them at final
• 2:10:13
  bout and yeah, I'm sure there's, you know, he's just being funny
• 2:10:17
  but I say that the kbd unvented well, but when those cars are
• 2:10:22
  sick, they're actually sick because it's a car.
• 2:10:25
  You design. You're talking like metal.
• 2:10:26
  No, no, they have they have the, the KVD polyurethane front
• 2:10:32
  fenders on their Cars but they're they're like origin
• 2:10:35
  vented fenders but they don't have vents.
• 2:10:37
  It's just that sounds like all their products.
• 2:10:39
  It's like that but not. Yeah, I mean and rubber.
• 2:10:42
  The one thing I will say on that is like my fenders are like
• 2:10:46
  origin, but origin doesn't make a z.
• 2:10:48
  I just here's the thing. It's like they're just bad reps.
• 2:10:53
  It's a bad rep company. And Nothing fits great, but the
• 2:10:57
  concept is so amazing, the concept.
• 2:10:59
  Yeah, the concept is great, their own designs, that's all I
• 2:11:02
  think. I agree with that.
• 2:11:04
  I agree with that. Here's an issue and this is what
• 2:11:05
  I brought up to Frankie and this is why he's bringing this up,
• 2:11:07
  but it's still gonna suck, they and it did fucking suck by the
• 2:11:11
  way. No, I think I'm saying they're
• 2:11:12
  there still gonna suck because they they ship it in a fucking
• 2:11:14
  two by two, but they posted a video of you putting a heat gun
• 2:11:18
  on it and folds nice you can but on the sun you could also
• 2:11:21
  fucking never mind. But The thing, the reason why I
• 2:11:26
  brought it to Frankie and I sent it to him and he was like, don't
• 2:11:29
  you what did you say? You said something.
• 2:11:30
  Like I said, good, I said do it. Yeah, I think that's what you
• 2:11:34
  said. I said buy it and he didn't
• 2:11:35
  answer, they made an IS300 kit and I have an IS300.
• 2:11:39
  Yeah, I think I've heard you mention that once I was, I was
• 2:11:42
  like, yo, like, yo, look, because the reason why I don't
• 2:11:45
  like the BN Sports kit, on the IS300 is because it looks like
• 2:11:47
  if you flipped a FedEx box over and the fucking thing is like
• 2:11:50
  this. That's great, dude, that's the
• 2:11:52
  style. Um, what I like it to be nice
• 2:11:55
  Sleek. I mean, if you seen like some
• 2:11:58
  bien kids out there like especially the blister kits,
• 2:12:00
  Daryl, that's really like that's still the style dude.
• 2:12:04
  Like if you're building a fucking crazy, looking fucking
• 2:12:08
  GT Wing FD. Yeah, you get a blister kit,
• 2:12:11
  man. Yeah, I like that.
• 2:12:12
  That's just gonna look crazy. I like the sex back 2000 like
• 2:12:15
  with the GT win. That's why AJ's Car.
• 2:12:17
  Oh my God. Narrow body then when I yep.
• 2:12:19
  When I first yeah. Yes you're actually right.
• 2:12:23
  Nobody was putting wide bodies on those.
• 2:12:24
  They Afford them. But if you put, they had to make
• 2:12:27
  them out of fucking spray foam and shit.
• 2:12:29
  You're gonna you're gonna make this sick car.
• 2:12:30
  Sick, vinyl sick paint. You're gonna put kbd on it dude.
• 2:12:33
  No, so the reason why again I sent it to Frankie's because
• 2:12:36
  they said that they were gonna make I saw the front bumper in
• 2:12:38
  and the rendering it looked a lot better.
• 2:12:39
  I'm not gonna allow that horse like like common.
• 2:12:42
  They said that it was like modified from the BN one so that
• 2:12:45
  the issue that I have with it with it being so thick was
• 2:12:48
  resolved because they made it shorter and then the red the
• 2:12:51
  kick came out and it looks like complete garbage because it
• 2:12:53
  looks like another BN kit and the rear bumper like shoves out
• 2:12:57
  like that too much. That's like that.
• 2:12:59
  I mean I don't know the one you're talking about but like I
• 2:13:01
  I sell Beyond Sports, I know being Sports.
• 2:13:04
  I run being sports right there. Shit does not look like me in
• 2:13:07
  sports but it's just enough to where it's like you right?
• 2:13:09
  It's like getting pictures. Yeah like you were trying Like
• 2:13:13
  here, copy my homework, just change it up a little like
• 2:13:14
  that's what it was and the rear bumper is just a fail.
• 2:13:17
  The cut the again, the concept, I'm sure something has to come
• 2:13:21
  from nothing, right? So like the concept is there the
• 2:13:24
  owners, hilarious? I talked to all time?
• 2:13:26
  Yeah, he is a funny record. His posts are fucking hilarious
• 2:13:30
  him. Just go back.
• 2:13:31
  Yeah, it's crazy because Frankie Beverly DVD all the time, but
• 2:13:35
  they talk, like, they really talk all the time.
• 2:13:38
  It's literally free. Yeah, like you guys say what you
• 2:13:41
  want to say and all so it benefits him so mind you really
• 2:13:43
  hurt anybody. He's making way more money than
• 2:13:45
  we are. Oh yeah, way more.
• 2:13:47
  So just keep that in mind too. I mean every car has the body
• 2:13:50
  kit. That's like that's at least five
• 2:13:52
  dollars. Yeah.
• 2:13:53
  Um, but yeah, you know what I mean?
• 2:13:55
  As far as far as the haze cars. Yeah, those cars are They look
• 2:13:59
  the best that they can look with kbd until you get the bumper and
• 2:14:02
  you're like, well, they shape the bumper wrong.
• 2:14:03
  So they is Illustrated dude, though.
• 2:14:08
  Just decide note. Hey, yeah, I love them.
• 2:14:10
  I've yet to really meet you guys in person, but you guys killing
• 2:14:14
  it out there. Never gonna meet them now.
• 2:14:15
  No, that's cool. I think I went to an RSD event
• 2:14:19
  before that their cars were all the nice.
• 2:14:21
  All of them. Yeah, I don't know them that
• 2:14:23
  well, but I know Matt, you get a chance.
• 2:14:25
  They're all great. Yeah, we me and that kind of
• 2:14:28
  officially met at that final bout special stage.
• 2:14:32
  I like to partake in the activity that we share in
• 2:14:35
  common, that we like, okay, which is named after their
• 2:14:38
  drifting. He also like to admit that on
• 2:14:41
  the podcast a lot too, it's funny because he used to, he
• 2:14:44
  used to say don't bring up weed because my, my I'll get fired.
• 2:14:48
  And we are like and we all right, New Jersey.
• 2:14:50
  Yeah. No, they won't fire me.
• 2:14:52
  It was more of like a like a. Like, I don't know.
• 2:14:54
  I don't want to look back. Anybody know where you work?
• 2:14:56
  Yeah, he works at know. I think I might have mentioned
• 2:15:01
  it one thing, but not, I actually had to like when I got
• 2:15:04
  hired there. I asked him straight up.
• 2:15:06
  Like, I was like, are you guys gonna not Army?
• 2:15:08
  Because I smoke weed and they're like, I'm high right now.
• 2:15:10
  Let me tell you when I was taking the offer letter or
• 2:15:15
  whatever, or taking a call. I had to ask them and like I was
• 2:15:19
  like, fuck I'm gonna have to quit weed because I fucking want
• 2:15:22
  this job, really bad like it would be a good move in my
• 2:15:24
  career and then once I got the response back like no, like I
• 2:15:28
  was like you have to wait up a month so that you can pass a
• 2:15:32
  drug test a drug test and then go right back on it because
• 2:15:35
  they're never gonna know and no way for them.
• 2:15:37
  Exactly justify testing you if 2022 still playing these games
• 2:15:41
  out here. Yeah and then once they said no
• 2:15:43
  I was like oh cool. Oh but they can't do that
• 2:15:44
  anymore, right? No I'm gonna stay.
• 2:15:46
  Yeah, they cannot crazy. That's crazy.
• 2:15:48
  The kind of evolution that that right.
• 2:15:51
  But if they can somehow prove that you were high on the job
• 2:15:53
  then yeah I mean like I mean his uncle with responsibility with
• 2:15:57
  with um what is it with great risk?
• 2:16:00
  Comes great responsibility I guess.
• 2:16:02
  So like I don't do that stuff. I I work in an office handling
• 2:16:05
  million dollar contracts all day long.
• 2:16:07
  I can't be that in the office. He can't be big.
• 2:16:10
  Yeah. Like look at this guy.
• 2:16:13
  Look yeah, check this out. But no.
• 2:16:16
  Yeah dude, I thought he wanted a million dollars a product, it
• 2:16:20
  was 10 the opposite but you know, that the I don't know the
• 2:16:26
  the the weed thing is like, we just normal now, man.
• 2:16:29
  Yeah, it's like drinking. Yeah.
• 2:16:31
  It has a courage to me that it is pretty normal.
• 2:16:33
  And it's Pretty normal. Occurrence to run into somebody
• 2:16:36
  else in the office who enjoys the same thing too.
• 2:16:38
  Because you can kind of tell you're like, hmm.
• 2:16:40
  Well let's get straight people who have money.
• 2:16:42
  Have been enjoying it forever forever, literally forever.
• 2:16:46
  Yeah, the dawn of time, it has occurred to me that that adults
• 2:16:49
  my entire life. I've been baked in front of me.
• 2:16:53
  Rich people, our parents. Yeah, I'm like legal for them.
• 2:16:56
  I'm like I'm like, you know, whatever, huh.
• 2:16:58
  Jim is a kind of Striking me as a stone or and then you're like,
• 2:17:02
  wait, he probably is because like, they all are like, but
• 2:17:07
  it's crazy. Have to time.
• 2:17:08
  Like, like, it is crazy, though. Like, no, Johnny in the chat.
• 2:17:12
  Yo, what up? I'm late doing every day.
• 2:17:14
  Be. Yeah, I don't like, your parents
• 2:17:17
  would be like, you know, so strict about not smoking weed me
• 2:17:20
  while they're fucking getting high and shit.
• 2:17:22
  That's just don't want you to do it when you're 10 year, 12 years
• 2:17:25
  old. No, I'm not even like, I'm
• 2:17:26
  talking when you're like fucking like 17 18, 19, 20.
• 2:17:29
  Well, I'm brought. I'm Filipino dude.
• 2:17:31
  Drugs are drugs? That's a drug.
• 2:17:32
  But, you know, they smoke. Um, my mom definitely did not
• 2:17:36
  exactly my mom. My mom told me her one pot story
• 2:17:40
  and it was funny because she was like, my sister and I were like,
• 2:17:43
  have you ever even smoked weed? Mom mom.
• 2:17:45
  If you're listening is, I swear to God, please don't, um, but
• 2:17:48
  She was like, yeah, I tried it one time and we were like what
• 2:17:51
  happened? And she's like, I went to sleep.
• 2:17:53
  I'm like you went to sleep. What the fuck was so bad about
• 2:17:56
  that? Like yeah, I don't know it.
• 2:17:59
  Lucian. But but the thing is, is like
• 2:18:01
  that. And and like my thought process
• 2:18:04
  with with cars. And what I'm gonna do next, that
• 2:18:06
  all comes ties together with that, I'll like go home, hit the
• 2:18:11
  balloon, and then like, I'll sit there and I'll come up with
• 2:18:14
  hella ideas. Even it's dumb ideas, like
• 2:18:17
  video, or what am I gonna do with my car?
• 2:18:20
  I wonder if I should do this this or this.
• 2:18:21
  Then next thing, you know, I'm on a rabbit hole.
• 2:18:23
  It's 3 a.m. and I gotta get up in a couple hours and I'm
• 2:18:25
  fucked. I think is a, I get, I'll just
• 2:18:28
  get I actually don't ever get high because I'm in illegal weed
• 2:18:33
  Pennsylvania. Anyways, oh, it's magical but at
• 2:18:37
  least. Yeah, my eyes hurt.
• 2:18:38
  Oh yeah. Allegedly, it's not good.
• 2:18:41
  You get stuck on YouTube watching like in a leader video
• 2:18:43
  for an hour and a half. I guess how you pronounce that?
• 2:18:46
  I get. Yes, I thought it was elevator.
• 2:18:49
  I guess I don't know. I've only seen it written.
• 2:18:51
  I only get stuck in YouTube in the dark spaces.
• 2:18:54
  Frankie watches so many. Oh dude, you ever watch just
• 2:18:59
  funny that you happened. Last night you ever watched the
• 2:19:02
  interrogation breakdown videos where it's like this dude,
• 2:19:06
  killed an Asian girl and we know about it, but watch as he tries
• 2:19:10
  to get out of it for two hours and you're just sitting there
• 2:19:12
  like, oh, like pause, it'll be like this.
• 2:19:15
  He shifted position and that shows that he's uncomfortable in
• 2:19:18
  this situation. Oh, yeah.
• 2:19:19
  And then instead of like reels being at like 30 seconds, you
• 2:19:27
  scroll to one and then that one's like 10 minutes long and
• 2:19:29
  you don't even And notice it's 10 minutes long, you get trapped
• 2:19:32
  and you're in it. It's so interesting.
• 2:19:33
  That's so funny. That's it.
• 2:19:34
  Look that up. I was thinking about this one
• 2:19:37
  recently where it was just a dude who picked up a girl at a
• 2:19:40
  college and promised to take her home and then like as you watch
• 2:19:43
  it, it just gets more and more fucked up until you're like,
• 2:19:46
  Yay, chopped her head off in the world.
• 2:19:47
  That's what I'm just like. What?
• 2:19:49
  yeah, here's what occupies my time when I'm not being high is
• 2:19:55
  restoration videos of random items.
• 2:19:58
  Like, it'll be like a hand drill owner.
• 2:20:00
  An industrial hand drill. That's like really old like
• 2:20:03
  really and they take it completely apart.
• 2:20:06
  It's Chris does this, it's wooden so then I fuck you do,
• 2:20:11
  Restorations know he watches them.
• 2:20:12
  And what's the ASMR? Oh no, this one's not ASMR.
• 2:20:17
  I'm just, I'm curious on the process that they're doing.
• 2:20:19
  Maybe it's maybe it's something that like I can apply to like
• 2:20:23
  cars or something. I'll pick something up.
• 2:20:25
  I'm like, oh damn. He used that tool for that.
• 2:20:27
  Maybe I'll fucking try that. What are the videos like that?
• 2:20:29
  You watch Chris. I was waiting for you.
• 2:20:30
  He's done talking. Like he really does.
• 2:20:37
  Watch no, no, it's always like 18 people just you don't need
• 2:20:41
  help. It was 50 people.
• 2:20:43
  Just fell asleep. You don't need help sleeping.
• 2:20:46
  Chris. There are times.
• 2:20:50
  Oh, camera. Close your eyes, you go out,
• 2:20:51
  like a light. No, it actually happened.
• 2:20:57
  The other night. I had a hard time falling
• 2:20:58
  asleep. Until I put a video know.
• 2:21:01
  It's an. It sounds like you should try to
• 2:21:03
  not take melatonin. Hi, melatonin, melatonin, and
• 2:21:06
  I'm not waking up take drugs. That's what I'm afraid.
• 2:21:09
  I've never taken, melatonin. But everybody's like, dude, I'm
• 2:21:11
  I'm asleep at 10:00 and I'm like, 10:00.
• 2:21:14
  I'm eating dinner, a half hour. You have melatonin you like just
• 2:21:19
  decide when you want to go to bed in a half hour later.
• 2:21:21
  You're wow. Try it.
• 2:21:23
  Chris. It's wild.
• 2:21:24
  Don't take this. What?
• 2:21:25
  If I resist? The sleeping will I trip?
• 2:21:27
  Like I'm on Quaaludes. Just be really tired.
• 2:21:29
  Oh, here's the thing about me. I don't know if it's like a
• 2:21:32
  logical or not, but I feel like if I come home, when I get home,
• 2:21:37
  my body has like this, like, powering down interval.
• 2:21:44
  But by that time, the interval is done, I'm ready to fall
• 2:21:47
  asleep, turbo time. That's why.
• 2:21:48
  That's why during the week, I don't like getting home late
• 2:21:50
  because there's like a certain and I agree with like I need to
• 2:21:54
  like just chill out for a little bit until I'm ready to sleep.
• 2:21:56
  Yeah, well that's, that's common.
• 2:21:57
  So like for example, like right now it's 9:00 if I get home like
• 2:22:00
  10:30, I'm not falling asleep to like what?
• 2:22:01
  Yeah, yeah, well that's why that being stubborn.
• 2:22:04
  That's why they say you should never like.
• 2:22:06
  Well yeah. That's literally what they tell
• 2:22:08
  you to bed is like the most annoying thing.
• 2:22:10
  Yeah, yeah. But like, you feel like, you
• 2:22:13
  know, that's what you got wine down.
• 2:22:14
  Yeah. Decompressed time.
• 2:22:16
  But I've tried, I've tried, like, I've gone home after we
• 2:22:19
  went to go watch a movie after a podcast.
• 2:22:21
  You never Joe poet out. You guys know what?
• 2:22:25
  Joe is, no. You have to assume a jerk off
• 2:22:28
  pass out. There we go.
• 2:22:30
  Yeah, I might help, I might help there were times where we would
• 2:22:34
  go watch a movie. I would get home like, 11,
• 2:22:36
  11:30, 11:45 Emily, just laying there.
• 2:22:40
  Like, I'll immediately get home. He's a bathroom where I gotta do
• 2:22:43
  lay down in bed and I'm not falling asleep until like 1:30
• 2:22:46
  to. There's no way you're not
• 2:22:47
  touching not not using your phone, right?
• 2:22:50
  That's the thing is. You're holding your phone, like
• 2:22:53
  then the there were a couple of times where I tried watching a
• 2:22:56
  video and then I'm like I'm still awake like I've watched
• 2:23:00
  this 40 minute video all the way through, how old are you?
• 2:23:03
  Because your brain is. All right, three years.
• 2:23:05
  You'd be passing. Your brain is like being
• 2:23:07
  preoccupied with watching. Something like, you're not
• 2:23:10
  letting it again, spool down to like nothing where you fall
• 2:23:15
  asleep. Like, I mean, I used to be able
• 2:23:16
  to watch movies. Can't do that anymore.
• 2:23:18
  I I have the TV playing consistently in my room when I'm
• 2:23:22
  going to sleep. I'll go on bed of it.
• 2:23:23
  I'll watch you YouTube video. Immediately pass out.
• 2:23:27
  Yeah, immediately. I have no strength but I used to
• 2:23:30
  be able to like control when I slept.
• 2:23:32
  Yeah, I was not the type of person that would just fall
• 2:23:34
  asleep. No matter what like if I was
• 2:23:36
  watching something. I'll stay up till 4:00 in the
• 2:23:39
  morning, but now It's over. Yeah, I mean write 30.
• 2:23:43
  It's over his other, fuck the part.
• 2:23:45
  Let's say, I do fall asleep on time and for some weird reason I
• 2:23:48
  get woken up within an hour or two falling asleep.
• 2:23:51
  I'm fucked. Yeah.
• 2:23:53
  Like a nap. Yeah, I don't take naps.
• 2:23:55
  Like you accidentally took a nap is that we mean like you get
• 2:23:58
  home? You fall asleep?
• 2:23:58
  Yeah if I get like 8:00 took a nap wake up at 9:00.
• 2:24:02
  I'm fucked. Well I wouldn't say I wouldn't
• 2:24:04
  say I'm fucked but yeah I understand what you're saying
• 2:24:05
  like you don't want to fall asleep.
• 2:24:08
  No 5 a.m. yeah that's see that's the blessing I have.
• 2:24:11
  I can fall asleep on command. Because you djapo.
• 2:24:14
  I think it's just because I'm always tired or something.
• 2:24:17
  Like, I don't know. Okay.
• 2:24:19
  Frankie Why did you start faction Motorsports?
• 2:24:22
  Jesus Christ. He's gonna transition to that.
• 2:24:25
  Yes, because I can fall asleep. No, but I used to work in a
• 2:24:31
  Nissan dealership, right? Yeah, pretty recently too.
• 2:24:33
  I, I had I was doing this while I was working at a full-time
• 2:24:39
  job, so multiple full-time jobs, but yeah.
• 2:24:42
  Um, Why I started this? I don't know because I found out
• 2:24:48
  you could sell parts and I was like, well, that sounds easy.
• 2:24:51
  So I got some distributors. Came up with a name.
• 2:24:57
  Like let's sell parts and get parts at it discount that we can
• 2:25:01
  build our own cars with yeah. And then So, I was like, if
• 2:25:05
  there's anyone in business and in the industry that's listening
• 2:25:08
  to this, they're gonna be like, oh, so you're that motherfuker.
• 2:25:10
  Yeah. I was because we always talk
• 2:25:12
  shit about those companies that just come out of nowhere and
• 2:25:15
  they just somehow get a turned 14 and count and then they just
• 2:25:18
  sell all the products for like one penny above.
• 2:25:21
  Cost or some shit on eBay, right?
• 2:25:23
  And then they literally murder the business for everyone else
• 2:25:27
  because they're just on eBay like that.
• 2:25:29
  That's what for people that don't know.
• 2:25:31
  Those are usually that types of people that are like selling
• 2:25:34
  products on Amazon or Ebay. It's like some dude in his
• 2:25:37
  basement. Like I was, who had somehow got
• 2:25:40
  a wholesale account with some someone and just spent time
• 2:25:43
  either manually, uploading all these parts or they did it
• 2:25:46
  through the back end and got the spreadsheets and everything and
• 2:25:49
  then just upload it all. And then it's like, yeah I'm
• 2:25:52
  only making five cents to a quarter on this product but
• 2:25:55
  they're on eBay and it's the cheapest price.
• 2:25:57
  Yeah, I mean I didn't do that but that's what I mean by like
• 2:26:01
  those types of companies that just Sprout out of the ground,
• 2:26:04
  we were not really like that, but in a way, I guess, you throw
• 2:26:09
  me in the same category because We didn't have overhead.
• 2:26:13
  You know like there wasn't a shop, we were not stocking
• 2:26:16
  parts. So right.
• 2:26:18
  It was kind of just like you can just do this and if you can, if
• 2:26:23
  you can somehow mark it and get people to buy shitt from you,
• 2:26:26
  then you can grow it. I feel like, I feel like people
• 2:26:33
  who do start out a business like that have one of two reasons why
• 2:26:36
  they sell for so cheap one, it's either out of spite just to fuck
• 2:26:41
  everybody else over like that. I think it's more because
• 2:26:44
  they're trying to get that feedback.
• 2:26:45
  They're trying to get that. You know like on is it eBay
• 2:26:49
  where you have like a? Yeah yeah I mean but they're
• 2:26:52
  doing it because it's it's quantity over karma karma.
• 2:26:55
  It's just it's just they're going off of just telling a lot
• 2:26:58
  of it. They're trying to sell a lot of
• 2:26:59
  it and not and not really Here care about the profit margin
• 2:27:05
  because you want to investing like so if you're if you're just
• 2:27:07
  keeping all that money and reinvesting you know, or
• 2:27:11
  whatever it is you could you could build up a little like
• 2:27:14
  Nest Egg for yourself. Yeah, you can I mean, and that's
• 2:27:17
  what we were doing. Obviously, I mean like, I
• 2:27:19
  remember I put a hundred dollars into the the checking account
• 2:27:22
  when I started and that was all we did.
• 2:27:24
  And just for the record we have no fucking money still, but That
• 2:27:30
  that's how it goes. Yeah.
• 2:27:32
  That was how it started enough for you guys to all be here
• 2:27:34
  working. And exactly.
• 2:27:36
  Yeah, we could pay ourselves. Yeah, pay everyone.
• 2:27:38
  We could pay the rent. Yeah.
• 2:27:41
  Well, we're not making any money seriously.
• 2:27:43
  But it is. You know, you're like doing it
• 2:27:46
  like as Japanese as anybody has ever heard that.
• 2:27:49
  Yeah, like, you feel, Too demo cars.
• 2:27:53
  I know it's pretty sick. Oh, we're on which one Wags.
• 2:27:59
  Not even really a demo car. I wish it was.
• 2:28:02
  But if like, it's pretty good, if it was like, I want to know
• 2:28:06
  how faxian builds a car you have two cars?
• 2:28:09
  Yeah, right. You're right.
• 2:28:10
  And then a third, once yours is finished.
• 2:28:12
  Yeah, you know, so like that's kind of impressive if you really
• 2:28:15
  think about it. Technically, there's one now
• 2:28:17
  before Frankie's car, but we can talk about that later.
• 2:28:21
  Yeah. It's like I mean there's I guess
• 2:28:23
  there's a lot of reasons for that hearing that is like
• 2:28:25
  awesome. It's a really cool compliment to
• 2:28:28
  me. Like I don't really think about
• 2:28:29
  that a lot but hearing you say it.
• 2:28:32
  It. I mean, there's no feel good.
• 2:28:34
  There's so many shops out there that like Go unnoticed except
• 2:28:38
  for in their, you know, prefecture or whatever in Japan
• 2:28:41
  where it's, yeah. You know, like we know the big
• 2:28:43
  ones. Yeah side and, you know, chaos
• 2:28:46
  and all that stuff. But like there's guys like you,
• 2:28:49
  I mean, I'd say you're even above those guys.
• 2:28:51
  Like, below Veilside. I'm thinking like that video.
• 2:28:54
  Kogi that I saw the other day where he's just like in a, he's
• 2:28:57
  got one left, right? And he's like working on his
• 2:28:59
  friends Cars. Yeah.
• 2:29:00
  So like, think about all you need to do to get to koguchi is
• 2:29:04
  like start making Parts. Yeah.
• 2:29:06
  Which we are is like starting to do that more, you know.
• 2:29:09
  So like that's that's pretty cool like that, if you're, if
• 2:29:12
  you're dead set on living that lifestyle like you're you're in
• 2:29:16
  it and so we're so, are you guys?
• 2:29:18
  Yeah, I know. I hope they stay here.
• 2:29:21
  A big thing that comes with these small businesses, like
• 2:29:25
  these small Brands, I would get used to say, like, just like
• 2:29:27
  you're saying, oh, in Japan. There's a lot of shops, or quote
• 2:29:32
  unquote. Manufacturers are small like
• 2:29:33
  this, I don't make a big profit. Um, it's I feel it's the same
• 2:29:37
  thing with having our business. It's like not really comparing
• 2:29:42
  ourselves to other companies, but if you're all doing,
• 2:29:48
  Practically the same thing, selling Parts offering tech
• 2:29:52
  service what makes you different from everybody else, you know I
• 2:29:56
  mean like what extra step are you taking?
• 2:29:58
  Because I don't know if we haven't really walked around the
• 2:30:01
  shop yet but between me and Frankie, we take an extra step
• 2:30:04
  and a lot of things we do that. A lot of places don't you know,
• 2:30:07
  because they're trying to make money.
• 2:30:09
  Yeah. And that's the shit we do takes
• 2:30:11
  time that in its own. Is enough for me to my dad comes
• 2:30:16
  or I don't think you've seen him in a while know.
• 2:30:18
  But but yeah, I'm bringing is not 11 here.
• 2:30:20
  Yeah. But he literally, I only comes
• 2:30:24
  here and I asked him what the reason is and and I'm like, it
• 2:30:27
  was going to shop, is it good? And he's like, yeah, they they
• 2:30:31
  really know what they're doing, like they pay attention.
• 2:30:33
  Yeah, we definitely pay attention and if we don't know
• 2:30:36
  what we're gonna learn it, they were not gonna do it just
• 2:30:38
  because you come in for an alignment which by the way you
• 2:30:41
  should. Oh I'm in.
• 2:30:43
  Yeah. Just because you come in for an
• 2:30:45
  alignment doesn't mean you're just gonna get in alignment.
• 2:30:47
  Like, if it's on the rack and, and Chris are Frankie or Dave,
• 2:30:52
  or somebody notices something like it comes into conversation
• 2:30:55
  because they don't want you to walk out of here with nothing,
• 2:30:58
  but the best that they can offer.
• 2:31:00
  Like, that's why I like yeah. My motto is a Customer service
• 2:31:04
  over everything else. So like, because a lot of shops,
• 2:31:09
  Don't seem to give a shit about the customer know.
• 2:31:11
  I mean that's very, I mean, anybody like you don't have 15
• 2:31:15
  cars outside, Projects, you know that we have one here.
• 2:31:19
  Well two here technically that that have been too long but I
• 2:31:21
  mean for that reason, we aren't taking any work in this month.
• 2:31:25
  Yeah and we're trying to get these cars out here before and
• 2:31:27
  we start another year, you know, I mean, right so but yeah, I
• 2:31:30
  know, I get what you're saying there's our there are shops that
• 2:31:32
  have Like tens like cars a lot of them but see that.
• 2:31:36
  Cool thing is, you you like I feel like you back ended.
• 2:31:40
  Like people know who faction is, you know, whether or not you
• 2:31:43
  want to like be humble about it. If you go to the West Coast
• 2:31:46
  drift seeing and go fax your motor sports.
• 2:31:48
  So like, oh yeah. So silver cars.
• 2:31:50
  We we know who they are. You know what I mean?
• 2:31:51
  Like, same thing with Front Street.
• 2:31:52
  It's like, how we know who animal style.
• 2:31:54
  Yeah, don'ts are you guys, are that team to those guys, you
• 2:31:59
  know, like terms of Frankie Coastal stuff?
• 2:32:02
  We are not like, oh, you're getting there when you, when you
• 2:32:05
  attach a shop to that, it's like I want to go to the shop.
• 2:32:09
  That faction is at, you know what I mean?
• 2:32:11
  Yeah, at least that's how I see it and I think that's how a lot
• 2:32:14
  when we went to California that time and we had a merch table
• 2:32:18
  Dude. Yeah, people were coming.
• 2:32:19
  I, I actually didn't even hear that much.
• 2:32:22
  But the girls that were selling stuff were like, people know us
• 2:32:26
  here. Like, it's weird.
• 2:32:28
  Yeah. And I'm like, that's crazy.
• 2:32:30
  And they're like, yeah, we've been waiting for you guys to get
• 2:32:32
  here, like, we're trying to buy some shirts and this and that
• 2:32:34
  I'm like, that's fucking crazy. That is that something to be
• 2:32:38
  really proud of? And that was before the shop.
• 2:32:40
  Now, imagine like in your local area like think about all the
• 2:32:43
  business you can draw from, you know, so like I think it was
• 2:32:46
  having the drift team and and, you know, being generally cool,
• 2:32:51
  like you're not known as the drifting of a bunch of assholes,
• 2:32:54
  you know what I mean? Like, thank God.
• 2:32:55
  You're like everybody. Thank God.
• 2:32:58
  This other people on these. Yeah, I really did.
• 2:33:01
  You thought that about every team that went to call loose?
• 2:33:02
  So that's yeah, that's why that guy Frankie they're on black,
• 2:33:06
  it's crazy. How standoffish like people
• 2:33:09
  think? Yeah, Drifters are Drifters, I'm
• 2:33:11
  pretty sure I thought that but what time I got you in the
• 2:33:15
  highway and I was just driving me too, passed me?
• 2:33:17
  And I was like oh that's where you in your car?
• 2:33:20
  That's a fashion car, not the Soviet.
• 2:33:22
  Okay. This is like way way long before
• 2:33:25
  and I remember like like thinking to myself I'm like I
• 2:33:28
  could probably never approach that guy.
• 2:33:30
  I never had that. I always just used to walk up to
• 2:33:34
  people if I wanted to. Talk to somebody.
• 2:33:36
  Yeah. I just like be lined for him.
• 2:33:38
  You know what I mean? That's good though.
• 2:33:39
  I think it's just you make it seem like you don't have that
• 2:33:41
  type of attitude but you do I play it really well.
• 2:33:44
  Yeah you have a good balance. I know that.
• 2:33:46
  That's the only way to get anywhere.
• 2:33:47
  Yeah in life. Yes.
• 2:33:49
  Like when it comes to personal projects but do you feel
• 2:33:52
  comfortable doing those things? Are you uncomfortable while
• 2:33:54
  you're doing it? No, I mean it can be.
• 2:33:55
  It depends on how they receive you.
• 2:33:57
  Like if someone doesn't want to talk to you and gives off that
• 2:33:59
  Vibe then of course it's yeah. Like while you're talking to
• 2:34:01
  them. Yeah I've had before.
• 2:34:02
  Yeah of course like and then you just kind of leave the car?
• 2:34:05
  Yeah but like it's gotten, it's gotten me to some cool places.
• 2:34:08
  I mean, Well that goes back to the other thing with drifting in
• 2:34:12
  front of people and stuff like that.
• 2:34:13
  Like do the things that are uncomfortable that took me that
• 2:34:16
  took a while for me to get over and I think there was something
• 2:34:18
  that happened at an event or something where I asked
• 2:34:21
  somebody. And I'm normally, I would use to
• 2:34:25
  be very shy about that. Like, I'm like, oh, don't I'm
• 2:34:28
  not gonna bother them and then something happened at an event
• 2:34:31
  or something, and I had to have asked somebody.
• 2:34:33
  And honestly, that's an attitude that I took Not just from there
• 2:34:38
  but like I took it to my job. How I interact with people that
• 2:34:41
  I don't even know, like it took me places once I got over that.
• 2:34:44
  But again like you just gotta get over it, I guess, like, once
• 2:34:49
  you do something in social anxiety and shit, but once you
• 2:34:52
  do it, You're gonna feel more. This happened to us the other
• 2:34:56
  fucking day. He's gonna hate me for this but
• 2:34:58
  we went to a haunted house in October.
• 2:35:00
  Oh, you fucking, okay. We went to a lot of you guys do
• 2:35:04
  stuff together and all like that.
• 2:35:06
  That's just, that's adorable. Yeah, you know, it's guys, don't
• 2:35:10
  get tired. Me and my bestie, we plant
• 2:35:13
  things. It really is.
• 2:35:15
  Frankie Frankie's like guys we're gonna go do this and then
• 2:35:17
  I'm like, yeah. So anyway we went to the song
• 2:35:19
  house, right? Now, a new Carl never been to
• 2:35:22
  one. So I was like, He's probably
• 2:35:25
  scared, but he was, he would not seem that scared.
• 2:35:28
  I could tell you that. so, I was like, all right, he's probably,
• 2:35:31
  he's probably kind of scared, so, whatever everyone else was A
• 2:35:35
  couple people were. We were unsure if they were
• 2:35:38
  gonna react. So we go in whatever we're doing
• 2:35:40
  this haunted house. It was you, right?
• 2:35:44
  Yes. So we get to this one section
• 2:35:45
  and Carl's ahead of me. And I guess something pops out I
• 2:35:49
  can't see it. It's around the corner Coral
• 2:35:51
  launched himself across the whole way like he's like oh yeah
• 2:35:58
  so that was my first taste of like oh fuck maybe he's actually
• 2:36:02
  scared but we were laughing because it was funny and then
• 2:36:04
  like we keep going whatever. It's a long haunted house.
• 2:36:07
  Uh it was and it was and it was good it's the what is right in
• 2:36:11
  Brighton asylum in Clifton so we get to the end of it, right?
• 2:36:15
  We have to go through like a little.
• 2:36:17
  You have to crawl through like a dark.
• 2:36:19
  Like Fire Light, No Light or anything.
• 2:36:21
  Yeah. Carl's you were behind me,
• 2:36:23
  right? Yeah he was behind me.
• 2:36:25
  He grabs my arm. Then that was when I found out
• 2:36:28
  that he was scared. Yeah.
• 2:36:30
  He grabbed my arm. Like I like we were about to
• 2:36:32
  die. Like, grabbing it so hard that I
• 2:36:36
  didn't, I don't think I said anything.
• 2:36:37
  I was just in my head, I was like, oh my God, I feel kind of
• 2:36:40
  bad because I could, it was a lot.
• 2:36:41
  It was me. It was noted house.
• 2:36:44
  First, I'm yeah. My heart is like, or not my
• 2:36:47
  heart, but it was funny because you you didn't see that scared
• 2:36:50
  because I was like, yeah, he was already here.
• 2:36:52
  But here, once he touched me and I felt his hand, I was like,
• 2:36:55
  okay. Like so then we kept going
• 2:36:57
  whatever. So now I know, That he's going
• 2:36:59
  through it, like terrifying experience right now.
• 2:37:02
  And we make it through. There was some other funny parts
• 2:37:04
  where she left some girl popped out.
• 2:37:07
  He like jumps pushes all of us on the ground, dude, you made
• 2:37:10
  that whole thing. So, so fun.
• 2:37:12
  Just for the record, fantastic. So, yeah, we get, we get glad I
• 2:37:18
  could make it fun. We got out, we're walking to the
• 2:37:20
  car. We got a long walk to the car.
• 2:37:23
  Carl's Carl's kind of quiet. And he's not quiet person now
• 2:37:27
  and I'm like walking was me Ethan and him.
• 2:37:31
  And I was like, fuck dude. kids like fucked up right now and
• 2:37:34
  then at the diner and then we got in the truck and I was
• 2:37:37
  talking to him and I was like how you doing and he's like I
• 2:37:41
  don't know, man. Like that was.
• 2:37:42
  It was a lot dude. I was a lot like he was, he was
• 2:37:45
  exhausted. Yeah that's what it was like.
• 2:37:47
  You're having a little like flashback.
• 2:37:49
  Yeah, no, yeah. Because literally like its it
• 2:37:54
  was the closed space thing but that like But then the diner you
• 2:37:59
  guys that we got to the diner and then towards the end of it
• 2:38:01
  you started coming back to me. Yeah, because I was an in like
• 2:38:04
  that is beyond my comfort zone, but my point of this whole story
• 2:38:08
  was he did something. He was uncomfortable with and
• 2:38:11
  then I asked him. I said, do you think you'd feel
• 2:38:13
  the same way if we went back again next year and he was like,
• 2:38:16
  No, I'd be a little bit better. Yeah.
• 2:38:17
  And I'm like all right. So you just beat that.
• 2:38:21
  Yeah. You had a fear and now and now
• 2:38:23
  it's starting to go away like that's why they gotta do the
• 2:38:26
  show. That makes you uncomfortable.
• 2:38:27
  Honestly like bro, literally like Frankie fucking Yeah, being
• 2:38:32
  friends with Frankie so far has been like I've grown a lot from
• 2:38:36
  doing different shit and you got me to go hiking.
• 2:38:38
  Mainly. Yeah, Frankie fucking loves
• 2:38:40
  hiking, dude. Now I go hiking every fucking
• 2:38:42
  week. I look so ever.
• 2:38:43
  You ever been you ever been on a drop tower?
• 2:38:46
  What is that the fuck is that? Like oh like you stand on it and
• 2:38:49
  it falls? No, no like an amusement park.
• 2:38:51
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:38:51
  Like you stand on. And then the floor goes.
• 2:38:53
  Oh, like this like like zoom and Jarreau.
• 2:38:56
  Yeah, problem I've seen way too many.
• 2:38:57
  Fucking videos of those things in China where they just fucking
• 2:39:00
  hit the India or something. That's India though.
• 2:39:02
  I mean that, that's why yeah, safety standards are different
• 2:39:07
  there. Yeah, but no, that's the one
• 2:39:09
  thing for me like the true fear. That's that's where I mean like
• 2:39:14
  really high up and then just the drop is fine.
• 2:39:17
  That's my favorite part go together.
• 2:39:18
  Yeah, for me. The drop is that I've been on
• 2:39:22
  the tallest roller coaster in the world that all day long.
• 2:39:25
  Yeah, that's okay to God. Yeah.
• 2:39:26
  Okay, the thing is, the thing is, I'm scared of heights and
• 2:39:31
  shit too, but I'm at that point now where like, it's the slow
• 2:39:35
  Ascent. Yeah, I have so much time to
• 2:39:38
  process. What's happening?
• 2:39:39
  I love that. I'm like I'm like 400 and Jersey
• 2:39:43
  is the worst because it's just flat.
• 2:39:45
  Yeah, you Just see well that party.
• 2:39:48
  Yeah, you know but the thing is that the here's and this might
• 2:39:52
  help you is, I don't know. And this helped me is that what
• 2:39:56
  I'm getting to the top. I sit there and I'm like, they
• 2:39:59
  engineered this to keep me in here.
• 2:40:01
  It's going to keep me in here. Let's go.
• 2:40:02
  Come on, come on. Like it's I'm still here.
• 2:40:04
  Watch that India video like yeah.
• 2:40:06
  Oh fuck but nobody flies out of it.
• 2:40:09
  It's bad dude. Yeah, it's bad.
• 2:40:10
  Yeah. I know what you're saying
• 2:40:13
  though? Like for me, if we were talking
• 2:40:14
  about amusement rides, it would probably be the one where
• 2:40:16
  slingshot, the slingshot, I guess, yeah, that shit I haven't
• 2:40:20
  been on one because I don't like cables.
• 2:40:21
  I'm not a big Cable Guy. I know they're, I know they're,
• 2:40:24
  they're, they're fine but for me allegedly.
• 2:40:27
  Yeah, allegedly even like, even like Sky rides like when you're
• 2:40:30
  in like, oh sure. Lift chairlifts.
• 2:40:33
  No, I'm a big scared shitless, dude.
• 2:40:35
  No, I don't mind. I like snowboarding snow too
• 2:40:38
  much. It's not like all the roller
• 2:40:41
  coasters, no problem, right? The second put me on a chair
• 2:40:43
  lift. Yeah, you're gonna see true
• 2:40:44
  fear. That's where God don't like, you
• 2:40:47
  can't come snowboarding snowboarding, I might be okay
• 2:40:49
  because you're over snow. So my brain's like oh this won't
• 2:40:51
  hurt. Are you kidding me?
• 2:40:53
  You're like high up in their and I know you're talking about,
• 2:40:56
  Safe, break my leg. At least Six Flags has a cabin.
• 2:40:58
  No one is so scary ones are just like a bar but then your friends
• 2:41:03
  are like oh you're scared and they start shaking it.
• 2:41:04
  Yeah, I like that. You know how this is on the
• 2:41:06
  cable right now? Don't shake this shit.
• 2:41:07
  Yeah, it's two wheels. Yeah.
• 2:41:10
  But I know what you're saying. For me.
• 2:41:11
  It's a slingshot. I think I think I could do that.
• 2:41:13
  The drop one. Yeah, I think I think I would
• 2:41:15
  have more chance getting on the slingshot one, I'm gonna try,
• 2:41:18
  I'm working my way on. Drop Towers the tallest one.
• 2:41:20
  I've been on his 200 feet, bro. I would have went on that shit
• 2:41:22
  until those India videos. Now, I'm kind of like, I don't
• 2:41:25
  know. I kind of like my spine, you
• 2:41:27
  know. It's just India though.
• 2:41:28
  I promise, I hope, definitely not Florida.
• 2:41:31
  Just don't be like 450 pounds. Yeah, I'll try.
• 2:41:35
  You know what I mean? Yeah, but that was a shame.
• 2:41:37
  That was a, that was a sad when I saw that.
• 2:41:40
  I was like, oh man, I didn't watch the video.
• 2:41:42
  I couldn't, couldn't watch, you don't want to watch something.
• 2:41:45
  I know a lot of people watched it, it's not like bad to watch
• 2:41:48
  but it's just upsetting. Yeah, because to relate it,
• 2:41:52
  yeah, all the drop tower accident.
• 2:41:56
  Yeah, no. But but pushing yourself out of
• 2:41:58
  your comfort zone is important in this kind of world and sport.
• 2:42:01
  That we are a part of unfortunately that's not reality
• 2:42:04
  of mine, but I don't push yourself.
• 2:42:06
  I think it's a good idea. Otherwise you just sit in
• 2:42:08
  imagine if I didn't push. Like Chris.
• 2:42:10
  It is a constant push and I push all my life is a constant push?
• 2:42:14
  Yeah, not like nothing happens to anyone.
• 2:42:17
  Yeah, I feel like my all my friends could agree to that.
• 2:42:20
  Like, if you're my friend, you're you're getting pushed
• 2:42:22
  into some uncomfortable position at least once.
• 2:42:24
  Yeah. Like if we're hanging out like
• 2:42:26
  because you're either going drifting, you're just spending a
• 2:42:29
  shit ton of money, you don't want to spend on your car,
• 2:42:31
  you're either going on at house or some stupid shit.
• 2:42:34
  Or we're climbing some Mountain. We probably shouldn't be dude
• 2:42:38
  building. A car is like project management
• 2:42:40
  like people don't realize like the the real like apple
• 2:42:44
  applicable skills that you get from doing certain things.
• 2:42:46
  I'm literally going for a project manager position right
• 2:42:48
  now. Oh yeah.
• 2:42:49
  Like if you can if you can build a car from stock to fully build
• 2:42:53
  an operating with a tune and all that because you don't know how
• 2:42:55
  to tune a car. Yeah.
• 2:42:56
  I mean like I still don't know how to build an engine like lots
• 2:42:59
  of yeah. Outsource some of that stuff and
• 2:43:01
  make sure that it all gets done. Lots of moving Parts, dude.
• 2:43:04
  Yeah, fuck. I just realized we never really
• 2:43:06
  answered your full question about faction but Because we got
• 2:43:11
  off on the tangent about people selling shit out of their
• 2:43:12
  basement. But yeah, so we I did that.
• 2:43:15
  Um, And then, I think, I met know, I already knew Justin.
• 2:43:21
  So I already knew Justin, but we were not like, in business
• 2:43:24
  together, officially or anything like that.
• 2:43:27
  And then Justin worked on cars. So wait, were you were you
• 2:43:30
  selling Parts before you and Justin started drifting
• 2:43:32
  together. Mmm, drifting like you think of
• 2:43:36
  it yeah and him yeah I would say so really yeah wow okay I
• 2:43:40
  thought the team came first first and then like well we we
• 2:43:44
  say it did because Our group of friends.
• 2:43:47
  Okay? You know that that's kind of
• 2:43:50
  what we Decided when we, when we made like the date like the 2010
• 2:43:55
  date, but the business was 2012 and away.
• 2:43:59
  So the name was not faction in 2010.
• 2:44:02
  I can tell you that. So like what was it in 2010?
• 2:44:05
  Well, one point was 10, Motorsports.
• 2:44:07
  Oh, shit. At one point.
• 2:44:09
  Yeah, because it was me, that's like, Mustangs and V8s.
• 2:44:13
  That was a name. We just someone.
• 2:44:15
  I think that's what I came up with that name out of nowhere
• 2:44:17
  and we were like, oh, that sounds cool.
• 2:44:18
  And then we just went with it, but then I was in business with
• 2:44:23
  a friend of mine and then we ended up not working together
• 2:44:26
  and only, I think it was like two years like that.
• 2:44:29
  And then we went our separate ways and I needed a name.
• 2:44:32
  We talked about this on another podcast or a bunch of them. did
• 2:44:37
  that and then, Yeah, I just that was it.
• 2:44:41
  So it's kind of like our friend group.
• 2:44:44
  Was, I mean, I was drifting into 2010, so I guess, technically,
• 2:44:48
  we were drifting in 2000. So, how did you guys get
• 2:44:50
  popular? Then like, how did you, how did
• 2:44:52
  you end up being that Christmas video?
• 2:44:54
  Was it really that the first one?
• 2:44:56
  Yeah. And then the second one was even
• 2:44:57
  more, right? Well, that's you say, popular.
• 2:45:00
  I think Instagram. So that's what I'm thinking of,
• 2:45:02
  right. So, you know, like you guys were
• 2:45:04
  you guys are on the first final bout.
• 2:45:07
  No, aren't you know, I thought you were Second.
• 2:45:11
  Yeah, because we were not at the I was there, but as a spectator.
• 2:45:16
  Okay? Yeah.
• 2:45:17
  But yeah, it was the second one when we went.
• 2:45:19
  So we should be on there now. I guess, you know the day you
• 2:45:21
  guys Place podium. Danny Hong told me.
• 2:45:26
  Yeah, we're at the shop. That's funny.
• 2:45:27
  And I was thinking like We got a team from New Jersey.
• 2:45:31
  Yeah. That was we were there for Club
• 2:45:33
  Lewis. Like that was really what it
• 2:45:34
  was. Yeah, it was felt good.
• 2:45:36
  If I had a say like I mean, obviously the trip to California
• 2:45:39
  was something but final bout to was I don't know that, that
• 2:45:45
  whole fucking thing was a trip man, like talk about like
• 2:45:49
  feeling good like a magical environment at that place.
• 2:45:53
  I don't know how they do it. It's a motivator.
• 2:45:55
  That was a big motivation. That's why I tell everyone to
• 2:45:57
  go. I tell all my friends, I tell
• 2:45:59
  anyone, I mean I'm like oh you never been no you should go.
• 2:46:01
  Well I want to drive. Yeah you're not gonna do that
• 2:46:03
  because you know so just go. Just go.
• 2:46:04
  Yeah you're not driving it's still a great time.
• 2:46:07
  Yeah, I love to go again dude. But I want to I definitely want
• 2:46:10
  to see that's another see that could you don't have so you can
• 2:46:12
  go to like, you know, call that far you could.
• 2:46:15
  But the thing is, is like, okay, you mentioned?
• 2:46:17
  What did you, how did you pronounce earlier?
• 2:46:20
  I pronounce it, Ella tour, a leader.
• 2:46:22
  That's what you what is that the YouTube Guy videos that I
• 2:46:28
  usually put on the TV? And we have somebody waiting?
• 2:46:32
  Okay. I'm like raw drifting Clips.
• 2:46:34
  Yeah, this video is like drinking.
• 2:46:35
  Oh, he just all the time. Yes, but I would watch that not
• 2:46:42
  necessarily those but I would watch final battle content.
• 2:46:45
  And I was like, fuck. That's like the mecca of
• 2:46:48
  everything, right? Everything that I like, you'll
• 2:46:50
  be. All right?
• 2:46:50
  Just don't put KB and okay. And then, um, I just see it.
• 2:46:56
  And I'm like again, that's that like wishful thinking that I
• 2:46:59
  always have, right? I'm like I'm gonna drive there.
• 2:47:01
  Yeah, and that's not something I got that feeling too.
• 2:47:04
  That's not an attitude that I had before.
• 2:47:05
  And now I'm like, you know what, like my driving is not that
• 2:47:09
  terrible. Like I think that I can go there
• 2:47:11
  and in fact, like I think that I would have fun there and do as
• 2:47:15
  much as well as a driving as I can.
• 2:47:17
  And That's, that's a goal and we'll see if we can make it
• 2:47:21
  happen. I think we can, I think we can
• 2:47:24
  Um, for sure. But yeah, do that shit was
• 2:47:27
  fucking life changing. Well, the first one was life
• 2:47:29
  changing but the second one when we drove was that photo right
• 2:47:33
  behind you. That was like, I remember when
• 2:47:36
  we were we were on grid. And Connor sent that to all of
• 2:47:41
  us. And I was like, well, this trip
• 2:47:44
  was completely worth it. Like just for that photo.
• 2:47:46
  Yeah, it's sick. I was like, and that was during
• 2:47:48
  the comp run and it was all of us stacked up that little easily
• 2:47:52
  accessible, like, a third open chat, No.
• 2:47:58
  I don't think so film. Copy only.
• 2:48:00
  I could find it. I'll find talk him.
• 2:48:02
  Talk Amongst yourself. What are we at right now?
• 2:48:05
  Our wives we are two hours and 53 minutes.
• 2:48:09
  Hell yeah. Yeah, I say this, every time,
• 2:48:13
  one of my favorite ones got, I've been nice as you live far
• 2:48:16
  from here. He lives in Pennsylvania, dude.
• 2:48:18
  Yeah, right. That's what I'm saying.
• 2:48:20
  Our 20, we go, but you, you driving home tonight?
• 2:48:23
  No. Yeah, no, I didn't think so.
• 2:48:24
  Oh yeah. I'll be in the area till Friday
• 2:48:27
  and then I think I'm gonna visit some friends up in North Jersey,
• 2:48:32
  near Vernon. OH, chat now not yet.
• 2:48:35
  Whoa, yeah. I might, I might stop and see
• 2:48:38
  Jeremy. Yeah.
• 2:48:39
  And my friend, Matt. He owns a hobby shop and
• 2:48:43
  multiple drift car. Oh, I know.
• 2:48:45
  Matt, Matt Stevens. Yes.
• 2:48:48
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:48:49
  He The Hobby Shop was in Zeppelin Hobbies on 23 23?
• 2:48:53
  Yeah, yeah. Justin.
• 2:48:55
  Justin lives near there so we would we would see him there
• 2:48:59
  sometimes or he would like hobby shops.
• 2:49:02
  But every time I walk in one I'm like damn.
• 2:49:05
  I can't afford that you can get stuff for RC drifting there.
• 2:49:07
  Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
• 2:49:09
  He built me a chassis. Yeah.
• 2:49:10
  Well, I got the chassis and then we put it together.
• 2:49:13
  Do you have RC drift cars? Yeah, I have.
• 2:49:15
  I have a 110. Okay, FXX d.
• 2:49:20
  So that's cool. Sounds like it's a carbon fiber.
• 2:49:23
  Yeah, I spent too much money on it.
• 2:49:24
  It was one of those like post-covid.
• 2:49:27
  Like I've always wanted one of these purchases, I'm into it for
• 2:49:31
  like 750 bucks. Really Jesus.
• 2:49:34
  Yeah, the good thing is though, a lot of the stuff is like
• 2:49:39
  Equity Equitable so like I could go and sell it for what I'm into
• 2:49:44
  it for. Okay much.
• 2:49:45
  You know what I mean? Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of
• 2:49:47
  cool. Like there's a there's a little
• 2:49:50
  bit of clout in it. So like and it's a niche hobby
• 2:49:52
  so everybody kind of knows what stuff's worth?
• 2:49:54
  Yeah. So it's it's cool.
• 2:49:56
  If you spend the money you can kind of hold the money out if
• 2:49:59
  you need to. I try not to think about stuff
• 2:50:02
  like that. What?
• 2:50:03
  Yeah, but also like it's also led to me not getting certain
• 2:50:06
  things that now like, you know, I remember seeing a set of lmg
• 2:50:11
  t2s on sale for 1500 bucks. In, you know, like 20 16 and I
• 2:50:17
  had 1500 bucks in 2016, and if I bought those were already spend
• 2:50:21
  it. If I bought those Wheels, then I
• 2:50:24
  would have like eight grand right now.
• 2:50:25
  You know what I mean? Yeah, like, that's what they
• 2:50:27
  ended up going up to tell me about it, but it's just like,
• 2:50:31
  it's like, if you know what you then you then, like no one would
• 2:50:35
  ever get it. I didn't even fucking know what
• 2:50:36
  those things are worth. Dude, I bought lmg g2's in 2016
• 2:50:40
  500 bucks. They're on Chris's car right
• 2:50:43
  now. GTR spec Here.
• 2:50:46
  He told the story on the last podcast center caps on them.
• 2:50:50
  Now, I bought them. I wouldn't be able.
• 2:50:53
  We would not be friends. I would not be able to handle
• 2:50:55
  that. Here's that thing.
• 2:50:57
  Fucking, I would be like, you need to get rid of those Wheels.
• 2:51:00
  I can't look, I'm sorry, I sold them to Chris.
• 2:51:03
  Oh my God. Knowingly, that what they were
• 2:51:06
  worth? I'm in debt to Chris Noth in
• 2:51:09
  Probably in money, but also just because what Chris has done for
• 2:51:14
  me to be where I am now. Okay.
• 2:51:16
  It's not just like, it's not just like a, that that's like a
• 2:51:20
  bestie thing. That's my bestie.
• 2:51:21
  That's my bestie. But like, um, like if it wasn't
• 2:51:26
  for Chris, if I didn't ever meet Chris, like I think I met Chris
• 2:51:30
  in a parking lot like randomly. I had an Audi at the time and I
• 2:51:33
  was into Honda's, I had an Integra.
• 2:51:35
  We're still heavily into like grip driving.
• 2:51:38
  That's what I wanted to do. And then, Chris told me about
• 2:51:41
  drifting told me about two 40s and shit, completely ruined my
• 2:51:44
  life financially and then it was just like downhill from there.
• 2:51:48
  So I always be in debt to Chris for that and he owe a belt.
• 2:51:52
  My first, I saw her, I was on a cruise, dude.
• 2:51:55
  This guy was at my house. My parents house.
• 2:51:59
  In my garage, eating in my kitchen on his lunch break,
• 2:52:01
  while he's building my engine, while I'm on a cruise in
• 2:52:03
  Florida, like must be so I sold them, I sold them those wheels
• 2:52:07
  for a very good price. I think what I sold 800 bucks or
• 2:52:10
  something. Yeah I mean I could just goes
• 2:52:11
  that price he told me the wheels for 800 dollars right before
• 2:52:16
  covid. I got them redone and then covid
• 2:52:19
  hit. And then boom.
• 2:52:20
  Yeah, Grand. Yeah.
• 2:52:23
  Yeah. Wow.
• 2:52:24
  But we're as, as Kobe was going, you know, going by, I see the
• 2:52:30
  price increase. Immensely by month.
• 2:52:33
  Yeah. And I'm like three grand now.
• 2:52:37
  I'm like, okay, that's a pretty typical price for like a
• 2:52:40
  multi-piece wheel I guess. And in a year later, boom a
• 2:52:43
  grand. I'm like what?
• 2:52:45
  Yeah, I mean, because GT-R now rich people are looking at the
• 2:52:49
  thing, is the wheels are not, um, they're not that, and if, if
• 2:52:54
  you've looked into GT2, they come in a very amount of specs,
• 2:52:57
  but the common one is 17 by 8, plus 35, 17 by nine plus 30.
• 2:53:04
  The set that I gave to Chris was 17 by nine plus, 23 Square, as
• 2:53:10
  the glorified spec, that's a GTR, perfect square, fitment
• 2:53:15
  set. And I had caps a friend of mine
• 2:53:18
  wanted the caps again, like the also, on top of all of this is
• 2:53:22
  like, I had no money. Like, I didn't have a job or
• 2:53:25
  anything. I sold them to Chris friend of
• 2:53:27
  mine has the Caps, maybe you could harass Mikey for those
• 2:53:29
  cats. Hey there, their original, metal
• 2:53:33
  caps. All the valves stems are
• 2:53:34
  original. The valve caps are all over.
• 2:53:36
  Original stickers, were original when I sold them to you.
• 2:53:39
  I heard about these wheels too many times.
• 2:53:40
  Yeah, we do. It's just like, yeah.
• 2:53:42
  Actually, I sorry, I just those when I saw those wheels on your
• 2:53:46
  car, I was like, all right, this dude fuck's.
• 2:53:48
  These are Ones. They have a split in the face
• 2:53:55
  for the valve stem the gt2s that's an easy way to tell g21
• 2:53:59
  GT2. Yeah even on the 18-inch set
• 2:54:01
  they have a split a GT1 is a single Flats flat face.
• 2:54:05
  You won't even see a split for the valve stem.
• 2:54:06
  Yeah because they poked yeah, the face pokes yeah, there is
• 2:54:11
  one specific detail as far as the value of those Wheels.
• 2:54:18
  I'm not going to disclose his name, but we had, I guess you
• 2:54:22
  could see a customer but he was literally ready.
• 2:54:25
  To drop a six grand, check. Ready to go.
• 2:54:30
  He's like, he's gonna be like, give me six grand right now.
• 2:54:32
  I'm like, but the relationship. The relationship between me and
• 2:54:36
  Carl and like the history behind those Wheels between the US who
• 2:54:40
  was like it's Priceless now Chris is like I want to have to
• 2:54:42
  split this. Yeah.
• 2:54:42
  You know what the deal is is like that's like one of those
• 2:54:46
  time pieces, dude. You know.
• 2:54:48
  The wheels aren't leaving. It's not like, you can never.
• 2:54:50
  You can never have another set again.
• 2:54:53
  Well, that's like the five seconds that Jesse has. 17 by
• 2:54:57
  10s. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:54:58
  He's just those Wheels aren't allowed to be sold.
• 2:55:00
  Like, there's 17 by 10 plus 12, right?
• 2:55:03
  It's gonna cost the Friendship, if you decide to sell.
• 2:55:06
  Yeah. Like he, they've gone through
• 2:55:08
  like two. I think Wags has him.
• 2:55:09
  Now, I don't know. But yeah, cuz Jesse doesn't have
• 2:55:13
  a car right now, so But yeah, those Wheels.
• 2:55:15
  There's just some wheels that are always in the stable.
• 2:55:17
  Yeah, that's really. But I feel like there's some,
• 2:55:21
  there's some other products aside from wheels that like,
• 2:55:23
  like a rare piece that will never leave.
• 2:55:27
  Yeah, friend group, it's just wheels are nice because you can
• 2:55:29
  put them on a lot of cars, right interchangeable.
• 2:55:32
  Yeah, like we put that. Oh my God, Chris hurt my
• 2:55:35
  feelings because I did had no fear moves.
• 2:55:38
  I was changing out my retires and Chris had his lmgt2 sitting
• 2:55:41
  there and he slapped one on my car real or no, I slapped one on
• 2:55:46
  the car real quick and I took a photo of it and I was like on is
• 2:55:49
  oh shit. I asked.
• 2:55:53
  No, you're good tonight. Yeah, I would have put him on
• 2:55:54
  the is just because it's actually because of the
• 2:55:56
  reaction, I just got for me just now.
• 2:55:58
  Yeah, you don't need to 245 on that bitch.
• 2:56:00
  Square. Now.
• 2:56:02
  Yeah but I mean money comes and goes Wheels all so I guess come
• 2:56:06
  and go. But again Those Wheels have more
• 2:56:09
  of a story than anything. They've been on every sassy, I
• 2:56:12
  owned. Yeah.
• 2:56:13
  Um and like and honestly, that's the last piece of your card too.
• 2:56:17
  Yeah, the rest, all my other cars are fucking gone.
• 2:56:20
  Like, completely, see a photo, is she I know I've seen, it's
• 2:56:25
  on, it's on Instagram. Okay, let me find it.
• 2:56:27
  Yeah, So are you prepared Frankie to never change your car
• 2:56:32
  ever for the rest of time? That's a really, really good
• 2:56:35
  question. You're gonna have to leave it in
• 2:56:36
  a field. Oh, I thought you were asking
• 2:56:38
  that question just because I don't change it because then a
• 2:56:41
  YouTuber is gonna come and be like.
• 2:56:42
  Yes, they're gonna miss Clark, they're gonna sell.
• 2:56:44
  Yeah, that's having like twice. Someone people come in.
• 2:56:46
  Oh, Christmas are oh, he's like dude, I feel like I'm in fucking
• 2:56:49
  barn. Find a barn find.
• 2:56:51
  Yeah. I make that room.
• 2:56:52
  She's called a lot just sitting here with dust on it.
• 2:56:55
  I'm like well it's fine because I I don't like changing my car.
• 2:56:58
  Like I got it to that right. Where you want this?
• 2:57:01
  Yeah, and when I look at, when I look at that photo I'm like I
• 2:57:05
  don't want to change anything on that.
• 2:57:06
  Yeah that's that's you change it too.
• 2:57:08
  Is the thing like you know what I probably the wheels would be
• 2:57:10
  the first thing to change. Yes I don't I'm not a big fan of
• 2:57:13
  Threes but I know they look good on that car.
• 2:57:15
  Big baller. Yeah.
• 2:57:16
  And money now too. I asked.
• 2:57:18
  Yeah, but he for that she. But we're, we're fucking dumb me
• 2:57:22
  like me and Chris like, oh, I have this and it's worth a lot
• 2:57:25
  of money. Okay, I'll keep it.
• 2:57:26
  You know, I mean like that's a mentality for ya collectors.
• 2:57:29
  Yeah, I don't know. It is, but that's not smart.
• 2:57:31
  Like I was able to capitalize on that.
• 2:57:33
  Especially, I don't like them. That's just, that's just the
• 2:57:36
  American way though. Yeah.
• 2:57:37
  What makes you happy? Yeah, no.
• 2:57:39
  Like, and but that's, but that's like, what, my brain.
• 2:57:41
  My brain is like, no, don't get rid of those.
• 2:57:42
  Those are worth money. Dude, I bought.
• 2:57:44
  I bought like, I bought it, like, a 6,000 dollars worth of
• 2:57:48
  classic Hot Wheels for 250 bucks.
• 2:57:50
  A classic like old like, first first year.
• 2:57:53
  Yeah. 1968, Hot Wheels. I collect Hot Wheels, though.
• 2:57:57
  So I'm never gonna get rid of them.
• 2:57:58
  Yeah, this is the Holy Grail. I will never ever.
• 2:58:01
  Spend the kind of money. You need to spend to get these
• 2:58:03
  back. Yeah, so I'm just never gonna
• 2:58:05
  get rid of it. It's, you know what I mean?
• 2:58:07
  Same thing with those Wheels. Like if you sold those Wheels,
• 2:58:09
  you're never gonna be able to tell yourself.
• 2:58:10
  Yeah, eight grand for Wheels. Is fine.
• 2:58:12
  Totally fine. But it's funny because you talk
• 2:58:15
  about those Wheels all the time. And like bores me.
• 2:58:18
  But then I think about those Blitz and I realize I understand
• 2:58:21
  because like I bought like four sets of those wheels or three
• 2:58:24
  sets of those Wheels because they were so she still have them
• 2:58:26
  know. I at the time I think I sold a
• 2:58:32
  set to Carly my ex-girlfriend. She still has them on her
• 2:58:34
  Cressida which I don't know where it is, but and they that
• 2:58:37
  car looks sick, it's a black crested, a slammed on blitzo,
• 2:58:40
  threes, the what is that? The one in that goes to lock
• 2:58:44
  City, know. She doesn't drift that's.
• 2:58:45
  Yeah, just Justin's. Because that's is it.
• 2:58:49
  Yeah, the gray one, it's literally still that great.
• 2:58:52
  No, no, there's a black one. Oh, there is yeah, Mark two.
• 2:58:54
  Oh, I feel like I probably know who it is but I can't think of
• 2:58:57
  the name. Looks like a hearse but dude
• 2:58:59
  that car looks like 10. But yeah, her up I was like oh
• 2:59:03
  just so you know those wheels are a lot of like a year ago I
• 2:59:06
  hit her up just you know those wheels are a lot of money right
• 2:59:08
  now. So wow, the classic slide in the
• 2:59:10
  DMS to talk about the wheel Valley, Dr. Put some walking
• 2:59:13
  wheel notes on those. You know what?
• 2:59:16
  Now, because you mentioned animals.
• 2:59:18
  You know, how you got the value of Threes up?
• 2:59:21
  Yeah, he was the one dimension. Lmgt2 is not too long ago.
• 2:59:24
  I'm curious. Oh, and I was like value, you're
• 2:59:27
  going to get richer. Yeah.
• 2:59:28
  But anyway, like I bought three of those whatever I was trying
• 2:59:32
  to build them to fit my car. So I bought like I didn't buy
• 2:59:35
  three sets, I bought Possibly three pairs or a set.
• 2:59:40
  I know I had at least one set. And I just kept like changing
• 2:59:45
  them up and everything. So but eventually sting
• 2:59:48
  eventually. I got the sizes I wanted.
• 2:59:50
  Yeah. And the rest of sold the rest of
• 2:59:52
  them, probably for nothing. Yeah.
• 2:59:54
  Like they suck like if you really think about it like they
• 2:59:57
  don't look like twice as twice as much as a normal like yeah.
• 3:00:01
  How much are the wheels Chris you make a face?
• 3:00:04
  What? I need to put these wheels in a
• 3:00:06
  bank. Vault, dude, you just sell them.
• 3:00:08
  How much are they worth? They just sold for 9500.
• 3:00:12
  The values literally going up your boy Grand.
• 3:00:15
  What is going with the grand? What is going on?
• 3:00:18
  I wouldn't ask for half the fuc. Its Wheels.
• 3:00:22
  All right, Frankie. So what do you want to know
• 3:00:23
  about my car? Oh yeah, what the fuck?
• 3:00:26
  Hold on. You guys are like, if squirrels
• 3:00:30
  had a podcast, I know it's pretty bad, you know what I
• 3:00:33
  mean? We try not to, but it's cool.
• 3:00:35
  So I will tell you one thing, right?
• 3:00:37
  If this podcast is great to have on.
• 3:00:40
  Yeah, that's the people outside, for sure.
• 3:00:42
  Yeah, it's really great. Like I I listened to all of
• 3:00:47
  Josh's one was like two and a half hours and at the end of it,
• 3:00:50
  I was just like, holy shit. Yeah.
• 3:00:52
  You're not, you're not if you want to just hang out.
• 3:00:55
  Yeah. And like the thing is, like, I'm
• 3:00:57
  a Avid podcast listener. So, like, I am used to this
• 3:01:00
  shit, like I I have podcasts on all the time.
• 3:01:03
  Like I have it on my phone come to work, play it.
• 3:01:06
  Yep. First thing in the morning
• 3:01:07
  podcast. Yeah.
• 3:01:08
  Put it back in. Go go back home.
• 3:01:10
  If I'm not watching TV, put the podcast on while I'm cooking
• 3:01:13
  dinner or something. So like I'm used to it but
• 3:01:15
  people who aren't used to it but now they're getting into it
• 3:01:18
  because we have one and they want to hear about drifting now,
• 3:01:21
  they're like, but with this, you're gonna have to start
• 3:01:23
  editing. That's the thing.
• 3:01:24
  Oh, wait. No, you think it's just gonna be
• 3:01:27
  straight. So, the whole point of this was,
• 3:01:30
  We didn't want to have to do much.
• 3:01:32
  Okay, that was honestly that was the point.
• 3:01:36
  It was like okay Carl was like oh we should start a podcast.
• 3:01:38
  I was like that's a good idea. I like that idea.
• 3:01:40
  I want to do that too. And then, Carl would be like,
• 3:01:43
  you even had some ideas about editing, or like just doing it,
• 3:01:45
  some, kind of way. I know.
• 3:01:46
  We're not doing any of that we're pushing record.
• 3:01:49
  We're pressing stop. Now comes doing whatever he has
• 3:01:53
  to do. And then we're posting it and
• 3:01:55
  then Malcolm legitimized it fucking there's a soundboard
• 3:01:58
  right there but that's not as crazy as some buns.
• 3:02:02
  I got you. Yeah.
• 3:02:02
  Hey yo Frankie tell me something.
• 3:02:05
  All right, this is my real voice.
• 3:02:12
  This should be your thing. Yeah, I know.
• 3:02:15
  I don't, I don't know if I could do this for three hours, aliens.
• 3:02:20
  It would probably like become normal.
• 3:02:22
  Yeah. Another way, that another thing
• 3:02:24
  that people have said to me is that like, The nicest thing is
• 3:02:27
  like I think coal Coal if you're listening to this what's up but
• 3:02:31
  he's going to the he was on his way to The Drifter and he's like
• 3:02:34
  yo it's just listen to your podcast.
• 3:02:35
  Hey we get hit up so many times, I'm like wow, dude, thank you, I
• 3:02:38
  appreciate that I'm on is 300 Pages, some dude from Colorado.
• 3:02:42
  Look at like I commented on it. I'm I gave some advice or
• 3:02:46
  something and then he replies like Thanks man.
• 3:02:49
  Keep representing the is on the podcast or something, I'm like
• 3:02:52
  the fuc. Well you know the the big thing
• 3:02:54
  is too like I've listened to our own podcast like On my own a few
• 3:02:59
  times. Yeah.
• 3:02:59
  I know you guys do. I don't know how you do it.
• 3:03:01
  It literally just feels like you're hanging out.
• 3:03:04
  Yeah. That's what it's supposed to
• 3:03:05
  like. Yeah, as a bystander.
• 3:03:06
  Yeah. And and I like, I like when we
• 3:03:09
  have guests that say like, that was pretty cool because right
• 3:03:13
  now we're just kind of just hanging out bulshit, and like,
• 3:03:15
  we're, we would be doing this out there.
• 3:03:18
  Yeah, that's pretty much what it was too.
• 3:03:20
  We were like, well, we already bulshit for a while at the shop.
• 3:03:22
  All right. So what one thing I do.
• 3:03:24
  Appreciate Scott that I wanted to mention early.
• 3:03:26
  I do like how you Little consistently try to reel it back
• 3:03:31
  in. Oh yeah.
• 3:03:32
  Sorry. I that that's the thing.
• 3:03:33
  Like I just, I like how I got that.
• 3:03:35
  I like to know about. Yeah.
• 3:03:36
  All too. I like how you're asking
• 3:03:38
  questions? Yeah.
• 3:03:38
  Seriously it's this is a most engaging.
• 3:03:42
  This is an engaging conversation.
• 3:03:43
  Usually, it is usually. It's just like Hmm.
• 3:03:49
  I see it. So what is that thing on the
• 3:03:51
  front of your car? That's like a splash thing or
• 3:03:53
  what? It's a fairing that's a fairing.
• 3:03:55
  Like that's that's all about the yeah.
• 3:03:57
  The clear. So the in Japan that car
• 3:04:01
  companies like will throw cars to local police enforcement
• 3:04:04
  agencies, they actually have like all different kinds, like,
• 3:04:07
  R34 GTR, you know, 35 Z 32. I thought about doing that to my
• 3:04:13
  car, but the whole point of this car was to make it as simple and
• 3:04:17
  easy to make look cool as possible.
• 3:04:19
  It was a black car And stock body.
• 3:04:22
  So I was like, what could I do? So, you know I I just Wrap the
• 3:04:29
  top of it, white, you know, I have a vinyl plotter at work.
• 3:04:32
  So I put the the side of it says, bad luck City police in
• 3:04:36
  Japanese, and the bug shield I made, well, I call it a bug
• 3:04:42
  shield, but it's it's meant to like deflect debris.
• 3:04:45
  So that's a highway Pursuit vehicle.
• 3:04:47
  They're seen as performance Vehicles.
• 3:04:49
  Well, just Skyline is so different. 35 yeah.
• 3:04:52
  Skyline is is like a performance car.
• 3:04:54
  Like we we give it shit because of the reputation.
• 3:04:57
  It's got here. Yeah but those cars can go 150
• 3:05:00
  miles an hour. Yeah I mean like they're they're
• 3:05:02
  not so what is for debris? Yeah.
• 3:05:04
  So the idea is that it's small and not super effective but it's
• 3:05:09
  better than nothing. And the idea is that if they're
• 3:05:12
  pursuing someone on the highway and they're throwing something
• 3:05:14
  out out of the car at the police because they don't have weapons,
• 3:05:16
  you know they don't have guns in Japan.
• 3:05:18
  Yeah so if they're throwing stuff at the car behind that it
• 3:05:21
  just bounces off of the deflector and over the
• 3:05:24
  windshield. Well, I'm sure it works.
• 3:05:26
  But yeah, it's cool air deflection.
• 3:05:28
  The flexion coming off. Yeah, on the loop.
• 3:05:29
  It's like crazy downfalls not. But that is, that is the bad
• 3:05:36
  just too. I got.
• 3:05:37
  I ordered the skyline. Yes, I did.
• 3:05:39
  Notice the bad he won. So did.
• 3:05:42
  Is that a legit piece on the hood?
• 3:05:44
  Were you made it? Yeah.
• 3:05:47
  But it is this it's the correct shape.
• 3:05:49
  So I used like for, you know, I traced it out on Photoshop from
• 3:05:52
  a photo of the real car and then like it's pretty set the
• 3:05:55
  proportions correct to the hood and everything.
• 3:05:57
  And I tried to do it legit too. Like I hate cutting into sheet
• 3:06:01
  metal. Like I don't know, I don't
• 3:06:02
  understand people who can just hack up a car.
• 3:06:04
  Like I really don't ya but with that those are riveted to the
• 3:06:09
  hood. So if I wanted to I could just
• 3:06:11
  take it off and put the screws back in.
• 3:06:13
  Oh sick. Yeah.
• 3:06:14
  So it's not like self tapping into the hood or anything like
• 3:06:16
  that. Like, I did it.
• 3:06:17
  You can just unbolt it. Thank you.
• 3:06:19
  What appreciates? I did it.
• 3:06:20
  It's great. Like I could Get some white bolt
• 3:06:23
  or share this? Yeah, White Bulls.
• 3:06:26
  Match it won't even see it nice and put on a cardboard and you
• 3:06:32
  spray paint the top. Yeah.
• 3:06:33
  My kid is Riff noted onto so I put really in the Rockers and
• 3:06:39
  Um, so that's how that's mounted.
• 3:06:40
  Yeah, I'm a big self Tapper guy. I need to get out of that face.
• 3:06:44
  That's how you ruin about a chassis.
• 3:06:47
  I saw a z32 that had skirts self tapped in.
• 3:06:50
  And like, literally both rockers were completely rotten because
• 3:06:54
  the water just goes in just goes in and then sits in the back of
• 3:06:57
  the rocker panel. Yeah, I mean, I was always a
• 3:07:01
  hater on self tappers but it depends on how much of a piece
• 3:07:04
  of shit. Your car is and you're I mean
• 3:07:05
  yeah, if you're not trying to make it last like the z30.
• 3:07:08
  Yeah, probably gonna die with that thing even though I don't
• 3:07:11
  really want to that. I love it.
• 3:07:15
  You know, like Front Street where the, they were the kings
• 3:07:17
  of self tappers for a while. Really?
• 3:07:19
  Yeah, I had to like, get him out of that shit, that I don't think
• 3:07:23
  they ever actually, they did. Listen, my first, my first hand
• 3:07:26
  and with my buddy, Chris is in there too.
• 3:07:28
  If you scroll up, it's a little bit further.
• 3:07:33
  Should we start shutting this one down?
• 3:07:34
  Yeah, I'm kind of hungry. I think it's shout him out.
• 3:07:41
  He's the he's the person that ruined me for drifting.
• 3:07:45
  He you have a Chris too. Okay, yeah.
• 3:07:48
  I went to, I went to a private day with him and, and like he's
• 3:07:52
  all and near the end of the day, he's like hands.
• 3:07:54
  Me his helmet. He's like Take it out for for a
• 3:07:57
  ride and I was like, are you serious?
• 3:07:59
  He's like yeah like fully built with like PBM.
• 3:08:02
  Oh he got you and I took it for a couple laps and and I was like
• 3:08:07
  oh shit you got you good setup car this is really fun.
• 3:08:11
  Yeah I've taken my daily out a couple times, you know, for a
• 3:08:15
  couple laps and it sucked and I was like this sucks, I'm not,
• 3:08:17
  yeah whatever. But with with that I was like
• 3:08:20
  damn. And then like a month later he
• 3:08:23
  sent me a listing. He's like, G35.
• 3:08:26
  Ready to go. See time car five grand.
• 3:08:28
  I was like Fuck I guess that's I guess that's it.
• 3:08:31
  Yeah Luda Pittsburgh. Drove it home flew to
• 3:08:34
  Pittsburgh. Yeah there's a hundred dollar
• 3:08:36
  flight. It's pretty is a little far.
• 3:08:38
  It's only 100 bucks to go to Pittsburgh one way.
• 3:08:40
  Yeah. No.
• 3:08:42
  Because remember that hunk of shit s13 we bought I drove to
• 3:08:47
  Pittsburgh for it. Damn which one was the biggest
• 3:08:50
  hunk of shit. Yeah yeah it was I got a one-way
• 3:08:54
  flight and the dude pick me up from the airport in the car and
• 3:08:57
  then we you know drove to the title Place, signed it over and
• 3:09:00
  I drove it home. That's Great.
• 3:09:02
  Yeah, Mississippi that's exactly what I well, I drove there.
• 3:09:05
  Drove the car home. Um, made my boys, stay at my
• 3:09:09
  house for like three days. My dad was literally like so is
• 3:09:12
  he gonna go or like but we drove to Pittsburgh bought.
• 3:09:15
  This shity s 13 went to a title place.
• 3:09:17
  I drove it. Home car was shaking over 50
• 3:09:19
  miles an hour. So I stayed at 50 from
• 3:09:22
  Pittsburgh. Which car was this?
• 3:09:24
  Rb20 Coupe. We don't talk about that car.
• 3:09:27
  That thing was sorry. Sorry Scott hey Pennsylvania man
• 3:09:31
  yeah. Driving through that state is
• 3:09:33
  like I have dark thoughts when I'm going to really.
• 3:09:36
  I just want I just did that this weekend.
• 3:09:38
  I was at Summit so I drove down 78 all the way.
• 3:09:42
  Yeah usually driving all the way through.
• 3:09:43
  So it's just like the only other state I can't even say it was
• 3:09:48
  Texas but like I enjoyed it. Yeah.
• 3:09:50
  So but PA it's like where that way with Ohio is sucks.
• 3:09:55
  Similar. But oh something else man.
• 3:09:58
  Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 3:10:02
  Remember that one? Stop that we did and it's just
• 3:10:03
  like Street manure. Hey yeah.
• 3:10:06
  Where was he too though? And Jersey stop.
• 3:10:10
  Oh wait, that's not manure in Jersey.
• 3:10:11
  That's human shit. I'm trash and garbage.
• 3:10:15
  Yes, I'm where you are? Yeah, when you cross right over
• 3:10:17
  the Delaware? Yeah, maybe for a minute.
• 3:10:20
  In South Jersey. Yes South Jersey.
• 3:10:23
  Yes, that's all swamp and shit. We don't go down there.
• 3:10:25
  All right, we don't know what they do down there.
• 3:10:27
  Let's shut this one down. Baby.
• 3:10:29
  Real quick chat says me, and my buddy say driving through.
• 3:10:32
  PA takes a year off your life. It does 100% only takes half a
• 3:10:37
  year. Three and a half hours.
• 3:10:38
  Yeah, no. That's right.
• 3:10:41
  I was driving to Ohio's like questions.
• 3:10:43
  Well yeah, we have questions but I want to I want to go to that
• 3:10:47
  chat. Is there anything going on?
• 3:10:48
  In there? Before we there was a wonderful.
• 3:10:50
  I got there was a very we got spam that's sick.
• 3:10:53
  New private, dating chat, click that I want to talk.
• 3:10:55
  No Carl. There was a question in here
• 3:11:00
  earlier that I wanted to bring up from Raphael, but I don't
• 3:11:04
  think he's in here anymore, but I'll ask.
• 3:11:06
  Anyways. What do you guys feel about
• 3:11:08
  photography and film content? Nowadays, if you feels like
• 3:11:10
  everyone is a photographer slash videographer after covid and
• 3:11:14
  real quote, unquote artists aren't getting the quote unquote
• 3:11:18
  respect they deserve. For me, I think the, I think
• 3:11:24
  that a good question, a lot of the a lot of it is algorithm
• 3:11:28
  driven. So a lot of people recently,
• 3:11:31
  especially when reels came out, were able to gain pseudo, like
• 3:11:35
  internet, Fame through. So, if you use the software, the
• 3:11:39
  way they want you, they want you to they reward you with
• 3:11:43
  followers. Like, that's just the way it is.
• 3:11:46
  And some people pay attention, like some people will gain
• 3:11:49
  thousands of followers, seemingly out of nowhere.
• 3:11:53
  Like, they haven't changed what they're posting or how they're
• 3:11:56
  posting, what's doing real? What's their adding they added
• 3:11:59
  that new feature and they're using it?
• 3:12:00
  Like it's like when stories first came out, you know.
• 3:12:03
  Yeah. You used to get like 400 500
• 3:12:05
  views on your story and now it's like 20 100.
• 3:12:08
  You know what I mean, same thing with likes, you know, they they
• 3:12:12
  don't want you to post pictures, they want you to do video
• 3:12:14
  because they're kind, they're competing with tiktok so photos,
• 3:12:17
  get You know, hardly anything anymore, but I still think that
• 3:12:22
  good stuff Rises to the top. Like, I think that agreed people
• 3:12:26
  complain about that. A lot of the photo thing.
• 3:12:27
  Yeah, it's not the only one Wheels right now but the problem
• 3:12:30
  is I'm I, I don't, I think it's stupid.
• 3:12:33
  I think it's a really stupid format.
• 3:12:35
  I really don't enjoy reels at all or tiktok or any of that.
• 3:12:38
  Like, what's very like brain numbing kind?
• 3:12:40
  Yeah, it is. So I can't like it would be so
• 3:12:44
  easy for. I mean, literally, in my stories
• 3:12:46
  Instagrams. Like, do you want to make your
• 3:12:47
  story a real and yeah, creates it for you.
• 3:12:50
  And it's like, please just post a reel.
• 3:12:51
  Please do that. I'm like, no.
• 3:12:52
  I know. I don't like the formats.
• 3:12:55
  Not gonna feed into it and maybe I'm shooting myself in the foot
• 3:12:59
  doing that. But, like, I'm not doing it for
• 3:13:01
  anybody else at the end. Well, you do this for you, do
• 3:13:03
  this for pleasure, so it's exactly.
• 3:13:05
  Yeah. So, if you were doing it for a
• 3:13:07
  business, right? And I don't know what you would
• 3:13:09
  do, I guess you'd have to put photos in a real.
• 3:13:12
  Yeah, which is what some photographers have done.
• 3:13:15
  Yeah. Like I'm a photographer and
• 3:13:16
  here's photos. I told her like, this is behind
• 3:13:18
  the scenes of I think like that would be cool taking because
• 3:13:20
  it's literally the way the music industry is is advertising music
• 3:13:24
  because no one is at least I think is no one is listening to
• 3:13:29
  the radio anymore and that's how you would push out.
• 3:13:31
  New tracks was radios would would be sold on new music like
• 3:13:35
  play our music and then they would play it and then people
• 3:13:37
  would buy records or yeah whatever.
• 3:13:39
  Whereas with this Different songs, get you different amounts
• 3:13:43
  of. Yeah.
• 3:13:44
  So like the more popular newer songs that come out, you get
• 3:13:48
  likes off of them which is fine but it's like I'm not putting a
• 3:13:51
  song. I don't like don't like on your
• 3:13:52
  art video on my art. Exactly.
• 3:13:54
  Yeah. It's just it's not good for
• 3:13:56
  artists and it sucks because Instagram was for artists.
• 3:13:59
  That shit is say that whole theory in general is actually.
• 3:14:03
  Yeah I'm kind of Blown Away by that incredibly entangled well I
• 3:14:07
  mean when you take any licensing, you can't just buy
• 3:14:09
  music to stuff which sucks because like, when we were Yeah,
• 3:14:13
  not young, but I guess younger like years ago when we come up
• 3:14:16
  with all these videos, we want to make with drifting.
• 3:14:19
  Like oh we got to do this song right and then you know he your
• 3:14:24
  business grows you make a YouTube channel.
• 3:14:27
  This and that, oh, we can't actually use any good music,
• 3:14:30
  right? So I'm kind of not even
• 3:14:33
  interested in doing any of that, I still do.
• 3:14:35
  Every video I've ever made was with like an, ah, yeah song and
• 3:14:38
  you don't care. Yeah.
• 3:14:39
  You either have to not care about making Revenue off of it,
• 3:14:42
  which is probably what we will end up doing.
• 3:14:45
  If I ever make a video and I'm like, I need this song like Or
• 3:14:49
  else I'm not. But the thing is I don't know if
• 3:14:51
  you can do that on YouTube. You can't.
• 3:14:52
  It's struck a lot. Well no, I don't know, I mean I
• 3:14:55
  like tell them like I don't want money is like you can you can
• 3:14:58
  you get turned them on a monetization off and then they
• 3:15:01
  won't like flag it on a certain song?
• 3:15:03
  I don't well they flag it but they don't.
• 3:15:04
  I think they might need it. You might need a different
• 3:15:07
  channel for that. That's what I would suggest.
• 3:15:09
  If you're planning to do like music videos.
• 3:15:12
  Do we got so many videos, so many video ideas where I'm like
• 3:15:15
  I have a list on Spotify of songs and I'm like it's called
• 3:15:18
  edits and it's just all these songs.
• 3:15:20
  I wish I could put in, you could just do what like, you know
• 3:15:23
  what, Alexa does from noriyaro and just have two channels.
• 3:15:26
  You have your main Channel really?
• 3:15:28
  And he has no or two for just like other bulshit.
• 3:15:30
  Yeah, I have to talk to Malcolm and see if we can just like
• 3:15:32
  you're unboxing videos are great.
• 3:15:34
  I want you. That's great to hear.
• 3:15:36
  There's a watch. Just so, you know, like for
• 3:15:39
  parts that I necessarily, like with the HKS one, it was funny
• 3:15:41
  because I was like, you're like, there's ways you can tell and
• 3:15:44
  I'm like, I know the ways I've actually I did the research.
• 3:15:47
  So which part was that the The Super S.
• 3:15:50
  Okay, the blow off valve. Yeah, Yeah.
• 3:15:52
  Yeahs HKS logos have like reflected.
• 3:15:54
  Yeah. And and you'll you'll see like
• 3:15:56
  copyright well, yes, so the only thing I need to change is I need
• 3:15:59
  to do my research more and then do the video.
• 3:16:01
  But you, but anybody, who trusts your opinion will go through and
• 3:16:05
  be like, what are the ways to tell the difference and they'll
• 3:16:07
  learn? Yeah, you know, I do want to get
• 3:16:09
  a little bit better at like supplying more information but,
• 3:16:11
  yeah, I get, yeah, I guess. Yeah, I'm doing it right now.
• 3:16:14
  You are still perfectionist thing.
• 3:16:16
  You're trying to sell products. Getting a compliment on.
• 3:16:18
  Something you did and immediately shutting it down,
• 3:16:20
  but I'm not immediately shutting it down, but I'm saying there's
• 3:16:24
  room to grow but I do appreciate that.
• 3:16:26
  Yeah, I I we have fun doing it because it's like, well, we're
• 3:16:29
  trying to push content out every week.
• 3:16:33
  So usually this is legitimately how it works.
• 3:16:36
  I come in here. Well, I'm already thinking about
• 3:16:38
  this, if it's like Wednesday because I'm like off.
• 3:16:40
  Fuck. We gotta like, we gotta get
• 3:16:42
  something it's Wednesday, right? so, I'll just come in here.
• 3:16:46
  I'll start looking around and shit and I'll be like, all
• 3:16:48
  right? We could do something with this.
• 3:16:51
  but it's weird because like in my mind, I'm like, I'm like,
• 3:16:55
  everyone knows everything already.
• 3:16:57
  But then the second, like I start, I'll grab a part and like
• 3:17:00
  either. Think about it for a minute or
• 3:17:04
  start or literally just start filming.
• 3:17:06
  And then, while I'm doing it I'm like holy shit.
• 3:17:08
  This is a really good fucking video.
• 3:17:10
  Like this is really informative and probably no one knows this
• 3:17:14
  shit, but like I don't think of it like that.
• 3:17:15
  And yeah beforehand, because that's that's the hard part with
• 3:17:18
  video too. Is that like you have to spend a
• 3:17:20
  lot of time recording. Yeah.
• 3:17:22
  So like the one thing that I'm struggling with right now with
• 3:17:25
  making art in general, especially with those final,
• 3:17:28
  vouchers was like, there's so much like energy in that event,
• 3:17:33
  that, that it's hard for me to stay behind the camera.
• 3:17:36
  Yeah. Enjoy it.
• 3:17:37
  You know what I mean? That would be terrible but I
• 3:17:39
  remember, but I know what you're saying.
• 3:17:41
  I remember. But it's, I mean, it's the same
• 3:17:43
  running a booth. Yeah, shit.
• 3:17:44
  Yeah, exactly. So you're like, you know, I feel
• 3:17:46
  bad for the employees more than myself because I'm like dragging
• 3:17:50
  these two out here and I mean looking for Carl can definitely
• 3:17:54
  relate. Yeah.
• 3:17:55
  You know, I mean because I know like there were times where we
• 3:17:58
  went to an event in Carl wanted to go watch but it just but me
• 3:18:02
  I'm just kind of like I'll just hang out here, you know?
• 3:18:06
  I mean, yeah, we tried it. We try to get people break
• 3:18:08
  someone, but I know what you're saying.
• 3:18:09
  Like, you want to, you want to experience a moment, not make.
• 3:18:15
  like photographic memories of it, you want to fucking You want
• 3:18:18
  to experience it but I do find especially as a photographer
• 3:18:21
  that like my memories of stuff are almost always associated
• 3:18:24
  with photos. I've taken, hmm.
• 3:18:26
  So like I have, you know trip, I took a trip to England after I
• 3:18:30
  graduated high school and I took so many photos that like my
• 3:18:35
  memories are literally the photos.
• 3:18:36
  Yeah. But I have a varied and like
• 3:18:39
  large amount of them, you know, you remember.
• 3:18:41
  Shitt from them. Yeah.
• 3:18:42
  So it's just a way for me that's helpful record, you know.
• 3:18:46
  That's, that's a part that I can like I always had some sort of
• 3:18:51
  fascination with photos but I never, I know there's a lot more
• 3:18:55
  than just pointing and shooting but for me, when I take a
• 3:18:58
  picture of like I or let's say I'm at a drift event or
• 3:19:02
  something and I'm having a lot of fun and shit.
• 3:19:04
  I'll like try to remember to take a picture, like take one
• 3:19:09
  photo and then I'll be able to go back to that photo.
• 3:19:11
  And that one photo, I'm like, oh you remember that day when, you
• 3:19:14
  know, someone that cell phones are Crazy.
• 3:19:18
  It's yeah, it's usually just like a quick but that's awesome
• 3:19:21
  because I have all I have when I get a new phone, I usually just
• 3:19:24
  like Turn it off, put in the closet but for me like old
• 3:19:29
  school, like I don't put it on the cloud or whatever with the
• 3:19:31
  soul, what the phone. It's like hard though because
• 3:19:33
  like, when you're at an event and you're on your phone and you
• 3:19:35
  take a picture, your first inclination, what you're gonna
• 3:19:38
  do, you're gonna put it on your story, take put it on Instagram,
• 3:19:40
  sometimes that just take photos. That's, that's why I bought
• 3:19:43
  something like this recently. That something like this
• 3:19:46
  recently is because I'm like, if I just take a picture and then
• 3:19:49
  like, put it in my pocket. Yeah, it's for me.
• 3:19:51
  It's like for my own benefit. Like probably feels a lot
• 3:19:54
  better. Yeah.
• 3:19:55
  Well that's that's because this is more like an addiction and
• 3:19:57
  that's more like yeah. I've been noticing that way too
• 3:20:00
  much time on that. Oh yeah, of course.
• 3:20:02
  My new thing is like I go home and I don't go on Instagram.
• 3:20:05
  Watch our heart. That is yeah.
• 3:20:06
  Try to do that. That's pretty hard.
• 3:20:08
  It's fucking crazy hard. It is.
• 3:20:10
  You gotta like do a project or something.
• 3:20:11
  What is crazy though? But I'm backsplash in your
• 3:20:15
  kitchen. Nobody, you know I'm saying.
• 3:20:16
  Like trying to do stuff? That's hard.
• 3:20:18
  Yeah. Well I bet you didn't know that
• 3:20:20
  was hard. You, I don't know.
• 3:20:21
  That's hard. I don't know about you guys but
• 3:20:23
  I have like a PC at home. So, like like, I have a built
• 3:20:27
  PC, you know, because I did the ETC stuff and it's like big
• 3:20:30
  Monitor and like side Monitor and stuff.
• 3:20:32
  You don't know then addiction worse than if you have a
• 3:20:35
  Facebook page open and you open another one on a different
• 3:20:39
  screen. Oh, yeah.
• 3:20:40
  Yeah. You know, realize that until you
• 3:20:42
  look from this screen to that screen.
• 3:20:44
  Yeah. Yeah, shit.
• 3:20:45
  I was already on Facebook, okay. He's the same thing.
• 3:20:51
  You're on your phone. All right.
• 3:20:52
  You unlock it. Let me check Instagram.
• 3:20:53
  All right, let me check, Facebook.
• 3:20:55
  All right. Let me open Instagram.
• 3:20:57
  Yeah, I just did that you go right back to it.
• 3:21:00
  Yeah. You keep opening it, you click
• 3:21:02
  your phone, open it. Look at something close it.
• 3:21:05
  And then click it again. Open it and it's literally the
• 3:21:08
  same, the same shit. Looking at, like, what, like,
• 3:21:10
  what are we doing? We're just, we have like so
• 3:21:13
  much. Just nervous energy now or just
• 3:21:15
  like, well, the thing that I can't stop.
• 3:21:17
  Yeah. You know, the thing that made me
• 3:21:18
  notice was the screen time thing.
• 3:21:20
  Yeah. That was the first red flag.
• 3:21:22
  I was like three hours. Yeah, that's a lot of time.
• 3:21:25
  I know. But I was like, that's a lot of
• 3:21:28
  time out of the day to be staring at something.
• 3:21:30
  Right. It's not really making me much
• 3:21:33
  money. I mean, occasionally we gotta do
• 3:21:35
  Instagram shit. So, whatever, so rule like an
• 3:21:37
  hour out. Right.
• 3:21:38
  So there's two hours of me doing bulshit.
• 3:21:41
  You know, I mean, I'm like that's a lot of fucking time.
• 3:21:44
  I know it's not in the grand scheme of things with other
• 3:21:46
  people's phones, but because I've heard some fucking nuts
• 3:21:49
  numbers. Yeah.
• 3:21:50
  Like eight hours? Yeah.
• 3:21:51
  Like a work day, right? Well, what But yes.
• 3:21:56
  So that was the first red flag. And then making this new rule up
• 3:22:00
  where I was like, oh, I leave work or I wake up.
• 3:22:03
  And I don't open Instagram until I go to work.
• 3:22:05
  Yeah, that I don't have that one thing.
• 3:22:09
  I like I keep everything super tight in the morning, so like,
• 3:22:13
  How though, how is it? Nine hours, nine hours.
• 3:22:16
  Holy pose, that possible? Yeah, I'm definitely putting
• 3:22:18
  this thing down. How do I, how do I find?
• 3:22:21
  I just typed in screen time in settings and then I saw it.
• 3:22:23
  Okay, you. But do you leave your?
• 3:22:26
  Do you watch YouTube at work? Like, all is your phone, is your
• 3:22:29
  phone? Is your phone open?
• 3:22:30
  Like is it open? I have to leave YouTube open on
• 3:22:32
  my phone for me to watch it because I don't have the premium
• 3:22:35
  red butt butt. Is it on in the background?
• 3:22:37
  Like I'll have my headphones on while I'm working and like it's
• 3:22:40
  a shit that doesn't count. Oh yeah.
• 3:22:42
  Today I'm only at our 47 nice. That's good.
• 3:22:47
  I was training today so I was like actually paying attention
• 3:22:49
  to shit. You know what I mean?
• 3:22:51
  But that doesn't count if you're if you're yeah.
• 3:22:53
  Yes. He's got that on the background.
• 3:22:56
  Yeah. That's like me listening.
• 3:22:57
  I don't know how to YouTube red things so like I'll have to like
• 3:22:59
  leave it open. Yeah.
• 3:23:00
  And then yeah so that doesn't subtract the YouTube from that
• 3:23:04
  time which you can do and then that's your time.
• 3:23:07
  So, just still gonna be high. Yeah, but You know.
• 3:23:12
  I don't know, people, some people say, well, why does it
• 3:23:15
  matter? People will read newspapers all
• 3:23:16
  the time. Back in the day, bro.
• 3:23:18
  Six hours on Facebook. That there you go, there's a red
• 3:23:21
  flag, but they wouldn't like they wouldn't like, you know
• 3:23:23
  why? Because he's looking for cars by
• 3:23:24
  yeah. Like he initially, read the
• 3:23:26
  newspaper and then I know I'm like, these comparisons are not
• 3:23:29
  and then like again. Yeah, I mean, yeah, exactly.
• 3:23:32
  Like, oh, you're right in the morning.
• 3:23:33
  Let me read it again. Like, it's more.
• 3:23:34
  I guess it's closer to like, watching reruns on TV.
• 3:23:37
  Yeah. Like well TVs were like when TVs
• 3:23:40
  came out, it was all like, oh there goes everyone's brains.
• 3:23:43
  Yeah, you know what I mean? And it's definitely for some
• 3:23:46
  honestly, my parents. Yeah.
• 3:23:47
  Bad with that shit. Yeah, there's a TV, right?
• 3:23:50
  Yep. My dad was the same way.
• 3:23:52
  He just sitting in front of the TV when he gets home from work.
• 3:23:54
  I'm like, well, this doesn't seem productive.
• 3:23:55
  Yeah, it sucks too. Because my dad's got a project
• 3:23:58
  car that he's like, always talking about wanting to finish.
• 3:24:00
  I'm just like, you're never gonna finish it, man.
• 3:24:01
  I know if you don't stop now we're at the next stage where
• 3:24:05
  we're carrying around the TV in our pocket, right?
• 3:24:07
  So you can imagine how bad shit's gonna get.
• 3:24:09
  I make it a point I at least for me I try my hardest when I'm
• 3:24:13
  with people. Not.
• 3:24:14
  Yeah. I think we all do that.
• 3:24:15
  You know what I mean? Like, that's like the biggest
• 3:24:17
  thing for me and you'll feel, you'll feel a lull in a like,
• 3:24:21
  hang out or, you know, we hanging out with people and you
• 3:24:24
  go to grab everybody's like, we need to do this.
• 3:24:26
  And yeah, everybody at the tables on their phone at the
• 3:24:29
  same time, and then like the first person puts it down and
• 3:24:32
  that's when everybody's like, okay, we're back being people
• 3:24:34
  again. Yeah.
• 3:24:35
  Yeah, that sucks. That's sucks.
• 3:24:38
  It is it isn't addiction that we basically all have its genius
• 3:24:43
  genius for the people. That Yeah.
• 3:24:45
  Instituted it and sell ad space. Yeah, that being said, okay,
• 3:24:48
  let's go to the Instagram. Just say why you do that?
• 3:24:53
  That yeah. My if everything was over
• 3:24:57
  tomorrow I gave up drifting and all that my lasting memory of
• 3:25:00
  you will be when we were. I know you're gonna say in the
• 3:25:04
  tower at final bout. That's one of my favorite
• 3:25:07
  memories too. One of the sweetest things
• 3:25:09
  anybody's ever said to me in drifting we were standing there
• 3:25:13
  watching drifting. Yeah.
• 3:25:14
  I guess we should like explain we, you know, there's a, there's
• 3:25:16
  a tower that you can walk up to where the media people are
• 3:25:19
  allowed to charge their stuff at us are.
• 3:25:21
  And you were there. Remember.
• 3:25:23
  Yeah. And the VIP, you can go up
• 3:25:25
  stairs and, and like, watch the drifting from high up, which is
• 3:25:29
  cool. You know, we're like, that's a
• 3:25:31
  really cool perspective. Yeah.
• 3:25:32
  Track get some cool photos and just generally watch in the sun,
• 3:25:35
  you know, sun was setting. I don't even know you were there
• 3:25:37
  at that moment, right? Yeah, I don't think so.
• 3:25:38
  I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, I came upstairs and, and
• 3:25:41
  Frankie was out there. I was like, yo, Frankie, what's
• 3:25:43
  up? And he's like Dude, this is so
• 3:25:45
  cool. You're here.
• 3:25:46
  Like that's insane. And I was like wow.
• 3:25:50
  That's before yeah I think it was no who was what where was
• 3:25:54
  was James driving with what's his face?
• 3:25:56
  I came because yeah because I think that's what we were
• 3:25:59
  watching. Yeah.
• 3:26:00
  Yeah. I got a video of it.
• 3:26:01
  Yeah he was. He was that was awesome for.
• 3:26:03
  That was cool. You shredding.
• 3:26:04
  I actually drove past those dudes on the way back.
• 3:26:06
  Oh yeah, we were on the Ohio toll road they were hauling ass.
• 3:26:12
  Know. We passed by Simba.
• 3:26:13
  Sorry. Yeah.
• 3:26:15
  But yeah, I was just like, oh, this is, this is so sick like
• 3:26:18
  that. That's just what you get out of
• 3:26:20
  that, that group of people, you know what I mean?
• 3:26:22
  Like, there's just a real like this year, I got to do all the
• 3:26:25
  stuff with Karoshi, which was awesome.
• 3:26:27
  Like we went to the pizza shop. And yeah, yeah.
• 3:26:29
  Did all the cruising and stuff and and I think that more people
• 3:26:33
  should try and do stuff like that at their their Gathering
• 3:26:36
  events. Yeah.
• 3:26:37
  It's like just take people out and be with them as people and
• 3:26:41
  not just with them as Drifters. Yeah.
• 3:26:43
  Like it gives that extra perspective of the people that
• 3:26:46
  you invite to your events and the reason you're there and all
• 3:26:50
  that stuff and that's the only thing.
• 3:26:51
  Like I don't I'm I like style and all that and like real parts
• 3:26:55
  and all that. But outside of the that portion
• 3:26:58
  of it. Yeah real thing that I like
• 3:27:00
  about finals about is the aspect of humanity that they bring to
• 3:27:04
  it. Oh 100.
• 3:27:04
  Yeah. First sure.
• 3:27:05
  And realize from the outside because no they think it's the
• 3:27:09
  opposite Instagram. All it is is a bunch of
• 3:27:11
  assholes. Yeah.
• 3:27:12
  Who are elitist and yeah to each other.
• 3:27:15
  Which is funny because it's totally not it's not, it really
• 3:27:17
  isn't. You know, those people are
• 3:27:19
  definitely in an advantageous position to be able to have such
• 3:27:22
  cool parts and cars and you know, take a week off work and
• 3:27:26
  drive across the country for sure.
• 3:27:28
  But like, sometimes goal. Yeah.
• 3:27:30
  Or or you or this, this even worse.
• 3:27:33
  Part is someone who has to really give up a lot to do that.
• 3:27:36
  Yeah. And is seen as this Rich elitist
• 3:27:39
  asshole. You know what I mean?
• 3:27:40
  Like, I was talking to Josh Dolese when we were out there
• 3:27:42
  and I was just like, so, what did it cost you to get out here?
• 3:27:44
  And he was like, he like shook his head and looked down.
• 3:27:48
  I was like seven Grand, right? And he was just like, yeah,
• 3:27:50
  maybe Seven Grand, like, probably more.
• 3:27:52
  And I was just like damn, dude. Yeah, throw his car, back
• 3:27:56
  together, like, it's a, it's a mad dash for a lot of jobs.
• 3:28:00
  People have quit their jobs for that.
• 3:28:02
  I mean, I always almost when I had when I was at Nissan, I
• 3:28:05
  would leave this this week and they'd be like, okay, we'll see
• 3:28:09
  if we can make that work and I'm like, oh no.
• 3:28:10
  I'm I'm leaving. You tell me if I have a job.
• 3:28:13
  Yeah. When I come back, that's all.
• 3:28:15
  That's all, I'm letting, you know like but that that's
• 3:28:17
  everyone, right? That goes to that shit like
• 3:28:19
  they're like, no, I'll lose my job for this, like, it's crazy,
• 3:28:23
  the dedication people have, and I yeah, I remember that one
• 3:28:26
  final about video sounds like yeah, I quit my job.
• 3:28:27
  Yeah, that's crazy. I didn't know, I didn't know
• 3:28:31
  that I went that. Oh people.
• 3:28:32
  Yeah, people did real. Oh yeah.
• 3:28:33
  We're real dumb. We're not fake dumb.
• 3:28:36
  It's just a different thing. Yeah there's no reason to hate
• 3:28:39
  on something that's different unless you want to be part of it
• 3:28:42
  and and aren't, you know, that's, that's really it.
• 3:28:45
  Yeah. Like I'm not out here like
• 3:28:47
  talking shit on FD or comcast. I'm not a fan of it.
• 3:28:51
  The same but it's not like I'm not like out here crusading
• 3:28:54
  against them know. Yeah.
• 3:28:55
  It doesn't give you that. Like, the only thing I Crusade
• 3:28:57
  against KBS, I think that that old rep parts from like the
• 3:29:04
  early 2000s are actually cool. Yeah, that's probably.
• 3:29:08
  All right. You know what I mean?
• 3:29:12
  Like this is survived. Yes, like like wings well Wings.
• 3:29:16
  Well Company. There's, there's this fucking
• 3:29:20
  Arrow Company. Like in 2012.
• 3:29:22
  I don't think the guy was in. Pennsylvania is a b magic know.
• 3:29:28
  I want to say it was called Chaser Arrow.
• 3:29:30
  Maybe someone can comment and tell me if that's right.
• 3:29:34
  I don't I don't know if we got any anyone that's been in here
• 3:29:37
  for a minute. But Chaser arrow is like I think
• 3:29:39
  that's the name of it that they made.
• 3:29:40
  Like the they made all the Reps but it was like cheapest.
• 3:29:43
  Yeah. Like so those were the bike like
• 3:29:46
  yo you got to get that. That was before we could get
• 3:29:48
  beIN Sports and all that shit like you couldn't do anything,
• 3:29:49
  right? So you have to find like what to
• 3:29:52
  sell for the right? Yeah and like I don't have that
• 3:29:56
  company but I know you're talking about like now it's
• 3:29:57
  cool. Yeah I mean like like this
• 3:29:59
  survived that's crazy like virgin select.
• 3:30:02
  That's just like cool. Wow that is.
• 3:30:04
  Yeah meow it's a Vertex. Right.
• 3:30:07
  That's a. That was a eBay.
• 3:30:08
  Special was version. Select, really?
• 3:30:10
  Yeah, I mean, look at what happened with v is now, that's
• 3:30:13
  acceptable. Yeah, this is acceptable.
• 3:30:15
  Yeah, yeah. Carbon fiber hoods and stuff.
• 3:30:17
  I mean, we ran that shit all the time before being was available.
• 3:30:20
  Like that was our brand. Yeah.
• 3:30:23
  Like, we sold it. We still sell it.
• 3:30:24
  Um, And that was what we were like.
• 3:30:28
  Yeah, it feels like shit but it's fiberglass so whatever like
• 3:30:32
  that's what we used, but I wish we could talk all night, but we
• 3:30:36
  gotta have you back on. So we got a job, easily have a
• 3:30:40
  lot to talk about. So we gotta have you back on.
• 3:30:41
  Yeah, I'd like to drive. Let's drive.
• 3:30:43
  Oh, that too. Yeah.
• 3:30:44
  Next year. Next year is gonna be fun.
• 3:30:46
  Dude. Let me go to some of these
• 3:30:47
  questions. I'll see a car track for sure.
• 3:30:49
  What's up not there? I was there.
• 3:30:51
  I did the one in March the first one.
• 3:30:54
  Yeah it rained. Oh yeah sucked.
• 3:30:56
  Now that I know that you are Seto we're gonna play some
• 3:30:59
  Tango. Yeah at least yeah.
• 3:31:01
  Or and in a settle and what mods do you use?
• 3:31:05
  Uh, well, the tando Buddies, fun, fun fact that was my that's
• 3:31:09
  smile Factory. That's when you mentioned smile
• 3:31:11
  Factory, that's how I knew that name.
• 3:31:12
  I was like, tondo buddy. 32 is my car.
• 3:31:15
  I styled it that car on the vs KS is that?
• 3:31:23
  No, they're on so I don't know what he does.
• 3:31:25
  Have big wheels. Yeah, I don't know what they are
• 3:31:27
  but I just I did delivery like that white with the yeah, and
• 3:31:30
  black stripe is right. I made that in Photoshop.
• 3:31:33
  I've been playing with these ones called gravy garage.
• 3:31:38
  Yeah, at this point whatever it is.
• 3:31:39
  I'll get used to it. Yeah.
• 3:31:41
  But there is there are some that make me like like this is like
• 3:31:46
  whatever. I like the gravy garage one
• 3:31:47
  because it it's got grip in the back.
• 3:31:49
  Yeah, so that that's like what I want now.
• 3:31:52
  Um, what do you got Frankie? Um, I'm just gonna start,
• 3:31:57
  unfortunately, there's a lot. You're popular Guy.
• 3:32:01
  What's apparently? Holy shit.
• 3:32:03
  That is the most I've ever seen. I did not know that.
• 3:32:05
  So we're gonna try to go through these as fast as we can.
• 3:32:08
  Okay? What got him into photography?
• 3:32:10
  And why is he so handsome? Toe killer?
• 3:32:15
  T. Oh that's that's Tom Robinson.
• 3:32:20
  From dream state, the blue s13, okay?
• 3:32:25
  With the US kit, that was at East.
• 3:32:27
  He said, what got you in the photography?
• 3:32:29
  We kind of went over there, right?
• 3:32:30
  Yeah. I guess I should look through
• 3:32:32
  these and make sure we yeah, I'll do that while I'm going
• 3:32:34
  through them. Yeah, but it was the you know,
• 3:32:37
  the video game and just generally taking pictures
• 3:32:40
  tourism. That's hilarious.
• 3:32:41
  Yeah, that is that is I just wanted to record whatever it was
• 3:32:45
  I was seeing. I don't know things that I like.
• 3:32:48
  Artie. Woo.
• 3:32:49
  Cakes. Need a final bout.
• 3:32:51
  Team with Scott as a leader. All cars.
• 3:32:53
  Painted like his. I don't know which car he's
• 3:32:55
  talking about baby. I'm all police cars.
• 3:32:58
  Yeah. Cars radical like, could you
• 3:33:01
  imagine that? Yeah, that's one one.
• 3:33:04
  One one, one, one car. One fully black car.
• 3:33:08
  Yeah, it has to be fully black. I'm gonna have four or bright
• 3:33:11
  red Marie. Happy you really have.
• 3:33:12
  What? Yeah.
• 3:33:13
  Does he do RC drifting? I think we kind of got into
• 3:33:17
  that. Yeah.
• 3:33:17
  Oh we did one ten chassis. Yes.
• 3:33:19
  Scott's thoughts on takeovers. This guy asks us something about
• 3:33:24
  who is it? The name is always lost.
• 3:33:27
  Oh just a rando always. Yeah he's always ask about take
• 3:33:31
  over their fucking stupid. Okay perfect it's stupid we
• 3:33:35
  don't even need to go into we don't need you.
• 3:33:36
  We've covered that. It's not okay as here's a thing.
• 3:33:40
  Like have you ever seen like a really nice photo from a
• 3:33:43
  takeover know it doesn't existing about takeovers is
• 3:33:47
  T-Pain's. Or not T-Pain hurt in the same
• 3:33:50
  thing about T-Pain. He was talking about takeovers
• 3:33:52
  and hurt was like look at these gibroni's, dude.
• 3:33:55
  He was like zooming in on different people in the videos,
• 3:33:58
  like, who are these people? And it's always just like these
• 3:34:01
  randos with like slicked back hair and like diamonds and like
• 3:34:06
  shit. And you're just like, who are
• 3:34:07
  you like the Youth of America drug dealer?
• 3:34:09
  That's a youth of America. Yes, sir.
• 3:34:12
  All right. Why does Scott have such good
• 3:34:15
  tasting cars? Josh roelofs.
• 3:34:18
  Oh, really? Yeah.
• 3:34:19
  Well he I liked his car a lot. I like me too.
• 3:34:21
  I like both of us. I was looking at your photos of
• 3:34:23
  his. I had a, I had a fucking awesome
• 3:34:25
  day with him. Where we were like the last
• 3:34:28
  drifting of the day. It was, it was Mark and him and
• 3:34:31
  they were just trading lead physician back and forth.
• 3:34:34
  Yeah, I actually have a video of it on YouTube, but it was just
• 3:34:37
  like, they were just shredding and it was just, it was super
• 3:34:40
  cool. No one was left on track.
• 3:34:42
  I want to say it was like a sleigh ride or something.
• 3:34:44
  Yeah. They got the last like, five
• 3:34:46
  laps and that, that RB just makes all of the absolute best
• 3:34:51
  and always. Yeah.
• 3:34:52
  He was complaining about it being slow because it's got, he
• 3:34:55
  welded a an external gate to to an iron manifold.
• 3:35:00
  So it makes noises like, like Japanese cars make.
• 3:35:04
  Because, yeah, they would have done.
• 3:35:05
  You know what I mean? Like, it's the little things
• 3:35:07
  like that. That really like, I feel like I
• 3:35:10
  was transported in that moment. Yeah.
• 3:35:12
  Yeah, like sound is a big thing for me, so yeah, car sounds
• 3:35:15
  good. That's fully important.
• 3:35:17
  If On the contrary, if a car sounds bad.
• 3:35:20
  I immediately am like, like I don't know if I like this.
• 3:35:24
  Yeah, yeah. Why is z32 so underrated sad
• 3:35:29
  face? I have one myself kinda And I
• 3:35:32
  feel like they're so underappreciated under
• 3:35:34
  appreciate it. How do you kind of have one
• 3:35:36
  yourself? This is Lake Life Kid.
• 3:35:40
  No, no idea. But yeah, they are hard to work
• 3:35:43
  on, that's really it. The chassis itself is pretty
• 3:35:46
  good. I mean, it it's, you know, it's
• 3:35:49
  an R32 in the front. It's an s13 in the rear.
• 3:35:51
  Yeah, I was gonna say a lot of engineering went into that car.
• 3:35:54
  It's a great chassis. They're kind of heavy.
• 3:35:57
  Yeah, to me, I think it's detox. Yeah, it's a money thing too.
• 3:36:01
  Yeah, you really want to modify that car and make it look good
• 3:36:04
  and like, do the proper shit like you gotta have some money.
• 3:36:06
  Oh yeah. All the stuff that I have on the
• 3:36:09
  car is imported. Yes.
• 3:36:10
  Like some of you can't shoot Auto Hood.
• 3:36:12
  Yeah. Where the fuck?
• 3:36:14
  Are you getting that? Yeah, I was very, very lucky.
• 3:36:16
  I saw on Facebook Marketplace. Oh yeah.
• 3:36:19
  The middle of Kansas. Yo, it's always like far.
• 3:36:23
  Yeah, Wisconsin has some stuff, man.
• 3:36:26
  Go to their Facebook Marketplace.
• 3:36:27
  You'll see some cool stuff. I'm just kidding.
• 3:36:29
  Northwest is literally, literally, dude.
• 3:36:32
  It's disgusting like going to going to a special stage
• 3:36:35
  Northwest. I was the whole right side.
• 3:36:38
  I was just shocked at like the amount of just rare shit all
• 3:36:42
  over their cars. Yeah.
• 3:36:43
  What you talked about where now and the Pacific Northwest?
• 3:36:46
  I think you're talking about Midwest because that's how I
• 3:36:48
  fell with the Midwest who if he could own any train in the
• 3:36:54
  world, which would it be Javi Pho?
• 3:36:56
  Oh, that's that's Jeff's nephew. Yeah, that's funny.
• 3:37:00
  He yeah, I don't know. I don't know.
• 3:37:04
  You like trains. Yeah, I do.
• 3:37:05
  I mean, I have a collection of models.
• 3:37:07
  Yeah. Wow.
• 3:37:08
  I have like the ones that run and everything like, yeah, yeah.
• 3:37:11
  That's where we just talking. We were talking about this the
• 3:37:14
  other day, something Japanese like a shinkansen or something.
• 3:37:16
  You know, we were talking about just model train.
• 3:37:18
  We might not have been on the podcast, I don't know.
• 3:37:20
  Yeah, I Post about that stuff sometimes so nice.
• 3:37:23
  So that the Japanese train, I don't know, I have the
• 3:37:27
  collection I have is all Japanese.
• 3:37:28
  They use a specific scale because they have smaller.
• 3:37:31
  Yeah. Like living quarters.
• 3:37:34
  Yeah, it's all modular too. So it's all designed to be put
• 3:37:36
  up and taken down and I just like how efficient they are and
• 3:37:39
  nice but the models are super detail and mass produced because
• 3:37:43
  they love train, still they love models in general.
• 3:37:45
  They're affordable. Yeah.
• 3:37:46
  Like you can get a lot of that stuff like, you know, like
• 3:37:50
  Japanese like little toy models and everything like, I feel.
• 3:37:53
  Yeah, I don't do it. I mean, I actually trains got me
• 3:37:56
  into JDM. This is, yeah, it was, I love
• 3:37:58
  bullet trains and fast trains and they are big on that and
• 3:38:02
  then once I found a scale that I could afford and like yeah, have
• 3:38:05
  those models for myself. It's started and just snowballed
• 3:38:08
  from there. Damn.
• 3:38:09
  I like old American trains. Yeah.
• 3:38:12
  That's what I like. But I don't know any of them.
• 3:38:14
  But I follow pages on Instagram. Yeah, like, you know, like train
• 3:38:18
  watching. Well, this was another thing on
• 3:38:21
  the heaven on that. California trip like we were in
• 3:38:24
  Utah somewhere and there is I look over and there's this
• 3:38:28
  fucking old black train smoke coming out.
• 3:38:33
  Oh yeah. Hauling some crazy shit.
• 3:38:36
  I was like this shit is badass right now?
• 3:38:38
  Like I'm just driving next to it.
• 3:38:39
  Like Cowboys. Yeah dude I was like damn
• 3:38:42
  fucking trains are gnarly like old ones.
• 3:38:44
  Yeah. But yeah.
• 3:38:46
  What were you saying? Chris.
• 3:38:47
  I forgot. Okay, yeah.
• 3:38:49
  It's not like I just wanted to put out there because I get a
• 3:38:52
  lot of shit for like the Japanese stuff or at least I
• 3:38:54
  used to before I put myself around people who kind of
• 3:38:56
  understood it better. Yeah, but like it really is just
• 3:39:00
  their way their approach to things.
• 3:39:03
  I appreciate. Yeah.
• 3:39:05
  That's the only way like efficiency is is important to
• 3:39:08
  them. Style is important to them.
• 3:39:10
  You know, because of the rigorous work culture, they have
• 3:39:14
  like, everyday things have to bring joy.
• 3:39:17
  Yeah, no. So, like you'll have a train
• 3:39:21
  with like cats on it, like a train that you're taking to work
• 3:39:24
  shows up and it's got ears and like cats spots on the side of
• 3:39:28
  it and stuff. And it's like themed to a cat.
• 3:39:31
  Yeah, you go inside and there's like cat stuffed animals and
• 3:39:35
  like a cat play area where you can bring your cats.
• 3:39:37
  And then it's like, okay I'm going to work but at least
• 3:39:40
  there's cats here, that's kind of cool like that happens.
• 3:39:43
  Like they dressed up like a regional train to look like a
• 3:39:46
  bullet train literally. Put a costume on a small train
• 3:39:49
  to make it look like a big train.
• 3:39:50
  You know what I mean? Like Japanese I didn't expect to
• 3:39:53
  talk trains this much but it's the same thing with everything I
• 3:39:56
  Like Trains theme parks cars like they make.
• 3:40:00
  Like cartoon cars, real? In Japan?
• 3:40:02
  Yeah, like Yankee style. Where the car is jacked up like
• 3:40:05
  five feet in the rear like I would never own it but it's
• 3:40:08
  insane that someone does. Yeah.
• 3:40:10
  And they'll make enough about it to do it.
• 3:40:12
  Well what are those? Those big robots?
• 3:40:15
  Yeah don't that shit is gnarly dude.
• 3:40:17
  It's just gonna get even more intense.
• 3:40:18
  Yeah yeah no purpose. Other than they have a real one.
• 3:40:23
  It's like obviously you can't kill us something.
• 3:40:25
  I mean it's moving now it's moving its gonna get more
• 3:40:28
  intricate there was a time where that was not possible like yeah
• 3:40:32
  you know all right. Next question.
• 3:40:33
  All right favorite lens to bring to the track, oh that's Ricardo
• 3:40:38
  RPS. 13. 70 to 200, 2.870 to 200 to 2.8 Canon.
• 3:40:44
  I do most of my shooting with that nice.
• 3:40:46
  It's kind of a longer one. Yeah.
• 3:40:48
  Right. But it goes to 70 so it's only
• 3:40:51
  20 millimeters longer than this. Oh it's just a really big lens.
• 3:40:54
  Nice. That's a 50.
• 3:40:56
  That's a 50 1.8. I think that I had a Canon at 1
• 3:41:00
  point and I think this is a kitlin.
• 3:41:01
  Yeah kitland. Yeah.
• 3:41:02
  I haven't spent on my son on my setup in six years.
• 3:41:05
  That's amazing. And you guys see the photos that
• 3:41:08
  that comes out and that just makes it work for you.
• 3:41:11
  Yeah. It's like drift with a stock a
• 3:41:14
  and yeah like you make it work. Yeah, on it.
• 3:41:17
  Yeah, you know, just perfect. What?
• 3:41:19
  Yeah, twitch drift besides Larry.
• 3:41:23
  And who is your inspiration? I like to say, I'm not inspired
• 3:41:27
  by Larry Chen. I would be, Larry Chen is a
• 3:41:30
  great photographer, but the thing that I have a problem
• 3:41:32
  with, with Larry Chen is, there's so many good
• 3:41:34
  photographers and he's the only one that really gets any
• 3:41:36
  recognition. Yeah, yeah.
• 3:41:37
  So so here's your moment to shine and tell us, um, well, I
• 3:41:42
  mean, that's the thing, like I kind of just do it.
• 3:41:44
  Like, I'm not, I don't look to other people.
• 3:41:46
  Okay, inspiration that said, yo, your own.
• 3:41:49
  I do appreciate a lot of the people that I kind of came up
• 3:41:53
  with, in the game. You know what I mean?
• 3:41:55
  Yeah, like Chris Ludwig is someone that helped me a lot.
• 3:41:59
  He's, he's one of the, the grub Masters, a club lose like he
• 3:42:03
  grills and okay, does like, I know the name.
• 3:42:05
  Yeah, who else, you know, Russo? I mean, Russo's a quality.
• 3:42:12
  Yeah. Like okay, yeah.
• 3:42:13
  Like I'm on the spot trying to remember all the people.
• 3:42:15
  Yeah. But I'm the same way I think
• 3:42:18
  with how you said like, Like when you're doing it you don't
• 3:42:22
  think of like I'm the same way with drifting you inspire you
• 3:42:25
  think of other people's driving. Yeah yeah so I get it I don't
• 3:42:29
  think you should. I think if you're an artist you
• 3:42:31
  have your own style it'll come through and and you take details
• 3:42:34
  one of the one of the people that did inspire me is a guy
• 3:42:37
  named Greg Greg v. He's like old Club loose media.
• 3:42:41
  Okay. Oh shit.
• 3:42:42
  Yeah I know you're talking. Yeah you do.
• 3:42:45
  He's been doing it when he does pop up.
• 3:42:48
  He does. He's yeah.
• 3:42:51
  My favorite photos I've gotten yeah, he inspired me in the way.
• 3:42:55
  He was where it was like, you can make photos look
• 3:42:58
  unrealistic. Yes, still cool.
• 3:43:00
  So like I shoot for that like I was glad you brought up that
• 3:43:03
  Force I think because that's what I shoot for.
• 3:43:05
  Yeah. Like I started in video games.
• 3:43:07
  I want to make real life look like a video game.
• 3:43:09
  Yeah, so like I don't know if you saw the photo of mine that
• 3:43:12
  final bout recently posted, but it's with T2.
• 3:43:18
  The risky devil guy. Kinda films.
• 3:43:23
  Yeah, I think I saw a photo of that car.
• 3:43:25
  Yeah. So he's leading that that seat C
• 3:43:29
  33. Yeah.
• 3:43:31
  That in my opinion is one of the better ones from that set and it
• 3:43:35
  just looks like if I stamped like a Jeep Grand.
• 3:43:37
  Cherokee. Yeah, or a Forza.
• 3:43:39
  Watermark on it. You would believe that it was a
• 3:43:42
  screenshot from a. That's a, that's an attestation
• 3:43:45
  due to like what. So, he directed my path.
• 3:43:48
  If I had to point one person who got me to where I am now in my
• 3:43:51
  style, it would be Greg. I'm trying to Connor.
• 3:43:54
  Croak is another one. Oh he he's one of the people
• 3:43:57
  that showed me that you can have a style and you should shoot for
• 3:43:59
  a style. Okay.
• 3:44:00
  Don't just throw shit at the wall and Like, see what's that?
• 3:44:04
  I had a lot of albums that were varied and looked different.
• 3:44:09
  But yeah, I'm trying to see. Like, I remember another
• 3:44:14
  question from Josh when is he doing a burnout and his 300 Mm,
• 3:44:19
  I I did one I didn't want to Bear Mountain and it was fucking
• 3:44:23
  sick and that's a good burnout car.
• 3:44:27
  Yeah, it was like, you know, popping off limiter, it's got
• 3:44:30
  two steps so it was like you know, shooting fireballs and
• 3:44:32
  stuff. Yeah, I was trying to find a
• 3:44:34
  photo of the show. Everyone, what's his face?
• 3:44:38
  Greg up world's best filmer favorite spot to shoot from at
• 3:44:42
  Englishtown talking road course Oh hey, Russian.
• 3:44:46
  My favorite spot has to be regular when Cars are cresting
• 3:44:53
  the hill. I shoot from.
• 3:44:54
  I shoot from the second turn. So, like I'm on the tires like
• 3:44:57
  past that billboard, that's there.
• 3:44:59
  Yeah, and I shoot with that, that long lens directly at the,
• 3:45:03
  the shiny Mansion so that as the cars hop out, everything.
• 3:45:06
  Oh, I know you're talking. Everything's out of focus, but
• 3:45:08
  the cars and they're just stacked.
• 3:45:10
  Yeah, like I actually have a photo, I saw one sleigh ride in
• 3:45:13
  2017. If you open up flicker, you
• 3:45:16
  could probably find it where it's like, it's it's all of the,
• 3:45:20
  the tracks ugliest cars, but it's one of the coolest photos I
• 3:45:24
  ever took it was like the end of the season and it was Fable
• 3:45:28
  Barry. Bernardo, who else was in that
• 3:45:31
  tandem? I'll be able to remember it.
• 3:45:34
  Oh, sleigh rides, sleigh ride. Slay.
• 3:45:36
  Right. Yeah, so 27.
• 3:45:37
  I think he's talking about. It would be the other page like
• 3:45:42
  right before the bottom There it is, that that cover photo.
• 3:45:52
  It's like one of the, one of the sickest photos I've ever taken.
• 3:45:54
  I don't know how you could bring up just the cover photo, but
• 3:45:58
  It's in the photo is in the, in the album but it wasnt that was
• 3:46:02
  one of the club Blues snow events too.
• 3:46:05
  Oh, I see. Yeah, that's exactly the angle.
• 3:46:06
  I'm thinking of I'll send I'll send Chris.
• 3:46:09
  Yeah, look at that shit. Oh, you got it.
• 3:46:12
  It looks so sick, but it's just like, it's the best spot on
• 3:46:17
  track to, yeah. See everybody stack up.
• 3:46:19
  Yeah, that's why. I don't know.
• 3:46:20
  I don't know why but I love when she has a tilt like that.
• 3:46:24
  Well, it's it's a downward. Well, because it's subtle
• 3:46:28
  because in the option days when they were filming, they they
• 3:46:31
  come in like super tight on the car and always at an angle.
• 3:46:34
  That's why I like but this video so it's a little bit more
• 3:46:37
  dramatic. Yeah.
• 3:46:38
  Those hey, just another thing. Since I would like to Manifest
• 3:46:42
  this, I think Sleigh Ride is one of the best events that
• 3:46:44
  Clubhouse holds, I know a lot of people don't do it but that's
• 3:46:48
  why it's the best for me. Yeah, for me, they just canceled
• 3:46:52
  another one. I know, and I'm kind of bombed
• 3:46:54
  because for me, 2016, 27, 2017, it snowed like, it was some of
• 3:47:00
  the most bonding moments I've had with people because you're,
• 3:47:04
  you're all dealing with, like, the cold conditions.
• 3:47:06
  Yeah. Awfulness, but you're there for
• 3:47:08
  something. You love, you all everyone who's
• 3:47:10
  there? Love it so much.
• 3:47:12
  They're willing to deal with the shittiest.
• 3:47:13
  Oh, and that was the picture right after that photo.
• 3:47:16
  I took they all fucking crashed but so it was like it was like
• 3:47:20
  an awesome stack up and then the conditions were so bad that
• 3:47:23
  everybody just crashed. I agree.
• 3:47:24
  Right. Is is one of the and then
• 3:47:26
  trucks. Yeah, the truck's drifting, I
• 3:47:30
  remember that. Yeah, I whip the Sequoia through
• 3:47:32
  there. So freaking well, I'm sold car.
• 3:47:35
  That was after he came back from his accident.
• 3:47:40
  It was late here. Oh yeah.
• 3:47:41
  The white one. Yeah.
• 3:47:42
  That has a VQ in it. Yeah.
• 3:47:44
  Yeah. Hop hop was like the driving.
• 3:47:49
  He the driving. He does his fucking nuts man.
• 3:47:51
  That's why I'm excited to see. Him do the competition.
• 3:47:54
  I'm just going to build a cool v8 car like that thing.
• 3:47:56
  Yeah, insane. Yeah.
• 3:48:00
  Yeah, kind of shocked his V8, but I mean that that means, he's
• 3:48:02
  not like he's not playing games, right?
• 3:48:04
  You know, I mean, like, that's all that wants to go out there
• 3:48:07
  and win. Yeah, yeah.
• 3:48:08
  So You know, next question. No more no more.
• 3:48:12
  Holy shit, we made it to the end.
• 3:48:15
  The last question was what camera and lens?
• 3:48:17
  You shoot with yeah. Danny Heats that's a 60 and then
• 3:48:21
  kit lenses. And and the 7200.
• 3:48:25
  Yeah. Um, also gonna say I do have a
• 3:48:29
  question I think over here. He knows, I always have Tom
• 3:48:34
  Robinson. Chad is watching this, that's so
• 3:48:37
  sweet. Even even this late I did the
• 3:48:39
  final bout trip. Last time with Chad, he bought a
• 3:48:41
  fucking brand new tundra and we went out in the nicest of
• 3:48:45
  styles. Wow.
• 3:48:46
  Yeah. Yeah, loved me.
• 3:48:50
  And he, he's one of these people that's like, I don't want to
• 3:48:53
  stop. I never want to stop driving.
• 3:48:54
  I want to drive 12 hours, straight through, right?
• 3:48:56
  And yeah. And I'm, the type that has to
• 3:48:58
  stop for a bathroom break, like every fucking hour.
• 3:49:01
  So, the one, the one, the one time we stopped and you could
• 3:49:06
  smell like burning. And it was because his Trail or
• 3:49:10
  had just ejected a wheel bearing.
• 3:49:11
  And there was like, grease all over the place.
• 3:49:14
  That's the worst. Yeah, that's so we I ended up
• 3:49:17
  driving his car. His drift car with no body kit
• 3:49:20
  on it for like you know, 40 minutes then the nearest hotel
• 3:49:23
  and then the next morning it was in Notre Dame.
• 3:49:25
  It was in South Bend where Notre Dame is okay.
• 3:49:28
  And the next morning we woke up and and they went and got parts
• 3:49:32
  and fixed the trailer in the parking lot and then he did the
• 3:49:35
  rest of the trip. Yeah, but it was, it was pretty
• 3:49:38
  wild. As a memorable time, that thing
• 3:49:40
  Miatas are scary to drive on the highway.
• 3:49:42
  I learned at night especially there because trucks because you
• 3:49:45
  can't go as fast. Yeah you can't go fast.
• 3:49:47
  So trucks are going faster than you and they pass you on the
• 3:49:50
  left and that's really fucking scary fucking.
• 3:49:52
  Yeah, cuz it sucks the car in and then pushes it out.
• 3:49:55
  At least you can fit underneath it and you're talking a drift
• 3:49:57
  car too. So it's alignment is like the
• 3:49:59
  alignment is terrible? Yeah, traveling and yeah.
• 3:50:03
  All right. So one of my oh, my, my last
• 3:50:05
  question would be Carlos, I like to end this on a, on a good
• 3:50:09
  question. So speed up Pops.
• 3:50:11
  Hey. Calm down.
• 3:50:13
  All right, as someone who takes Photographs of cars.
• 3:50:19
  Super often. Can you remember any specific
• 3:50:21
  moments while working that felt life-changing for you?
• 3:50:24
  Oh, whether it was a new angle, you found while taking a shot or
• 3:50:28
  a certain type of editing technique that was just so
• 3:50:30
  different that it changed, how you took photos from that point
• 3:50:32
  on. And if this has happened, does
• 3:50:34
  this happen often or not really. I wouldn't say it happens.
• 3:50:39
  Often for me it's about experience is so like I've taken
• 3:50:42
  enough photos now where it's just kind of like a rigmarole,
• 3:50:47
  you know. Yeah.
• 3:50:47
  Like it's it's like you it's not driving.
• 3:50:50
  Like there is there are moments. So like where is it?
• 3:50:53
  Just natural a lot of them, what photography?
• 3:50:56
  Yeah. Like the way you're taking the
• 3:50:57
  shot or something like you're not just going out there and
• 3:51:00
  just fucking snapping away like you're always see.
• 3:51:03
  Doing something. Yeah, I mean, I mean, I have
• 3:51:05
  like, certain places. I like to stand, like, it sucks
• 3:51:09
  for call voice because, you know, they take stricter, they
• 3:51:12
  take safety very seriously and that's fair, you know?
• 3:51:14
  Yeah, it's their event. do what you want, but Artistically
• 3:51:19
  speaking for me, I love to stand on the outside of Corners, far
• 3:51:23
  away from furniture, but still outside, they just don't allow
• 3:51:27
  outside standing. It's just they have bunkers on
• 3:51:30
  the inside and that's that's yeah.
• 3:51:31
  I never really knew that. Yeah, it makes sense.
• 3:51:33
  So like I like to be able to look down the barrel of the
• 3:51:36
  corner, like that photo that. Yeah.
• 3:51:38
  One of the few places that called loose, I get to do that.
• 3:51:40
  So that's why I'm always there every event.
• 3:51:42
  Okay, I take it at least one photo there, you know.
• 3:51:45
  So you kind of have you probably even have like I used to like to
• 3:51:49
  stand at the top of the hill on backtrack before they moved it?
• 3:51:52
  Well, that was fantastic. Place to stand too.
• 3:51:55
  Yeah, so you kind of like a strategy when you go like go
• 3:51:58
  here. I'm gonna hit this spot.
• 3:52:00
  I'm gonna do just angles that I like to get.
• 3:52:02
  You know, it comes monotonous after a while you have to start
• 3:52:05
  playing around with certain things like, you know, one of
• 3:52:08
  the things that I was doing was using the lights at final About
• 3:52:12
  Us flash. So I don't have a flash unit.
• 3:52:14
  Yeah, but you can get in. Crisp photos at night, when the
• 3:52:19
  cars were coming through the lights at the top of the hill
• 3:52:23
  because it was acting as a flash unit.
• 3:52:25
  Even though you're dragging shutter hard because, you know,
• 3:52:28
  it's dark. Yeah.
• 3:52:30
  The lights are the light from from the spotlight lamps is like
• 3:52:36
  flickering. You know what I mean?
• 3:52:37
  Because, yeah, it's that's how lights work like fluorescence
• 3:52:41
  and all that, they have like, that's why.
• 3:52:43
  Yeah, when you take, if you take a shot within that frequency, it
• 3:52:47
  acts as a flash. So the cars, super sharp and
• 3:52:50
  then that goes out for a second, you know, for a millisecond and
• 3:52:52
  then comes back in. Wow, so a lot of the shots I
• 3:52:55
  have at night wouldn't be attainable.
• 3:52:58
  Without the lights, that's pretty crazy.
• 3:53:01
  I mean, that's a unique thing. I mean you like maybe not unique
• 3:53:04
  in the photography world, but because, if you look closely,
• 3:53:07
  you can see, like artifacts from the car like being blurred.
• 3:53:11
  But because like, if a car speeds by you at 100 miles an
• 3:53:14
  hour and your shutter speed is slow.
• 3:53:15
  If you have a flash unit, it'll still Like trapping in time
• 3:53:19
  because for a second it was super bright.
• 3:53:21
  So like all the light comes into the sensor from that single
• 3:53:25
  moment of brightness. Yeah.
• 3:53:26
  And everything else that happens around it.
• 3:53:28
  Like you ever see those cool shots at Sneaky Pete's?
• 3:53:31
  Where there's. Yes.
• 3:53:32
  Yeah there's like shit dragged everywhere.
• 3:53:33
  But yeah. The main subject is still in
• 3:53:35
  Focus. Yeah that's called shutter
• 3:53:37
  dragging. So it's like you you take a
• 3:53:39
  photo and then like hold and then it holds past the flash.
• 3:53:43
  So like all the shit that's still bright enough to be taken
• 3:53:47
  in by the sensor is being put is crazy.
• 3:53:49
  Yeah, it works. Yeah.
• 3:53:51
  Anything about it, cameras, and lighting, all that are sick.
• 3:53:54
  Like, you can make a camera out of almost anything.
• 3:53:57
  That's all the thing on Reddit where they made a camera out of
• 3:53:59
  an orange. They just, you just put, you
• 3:54:02
  just put media that can collect light in the back of the orange
• 3:54:05
  and a pinhole in the other side. Yeah.
• 3:54:06
  And then it collects late and there was all these cool photos
• 3:54:09
  of just stuff. Did you ever make one of those
• 3:54:11
  and in school, a pinhole camera, maybe a shoebox.
• 3:54:14
  We made one out of our classroom.
• 3:54:15
  Yeah. I I made one of those.
• 3:54:17
  Yeah. It flips the image though.
• 3:54:19
  So it's everything's upside down.
• 3:54:20
  But if you have like a oh yeah, I think I've done that before.
• 3:54:23
  If you have like, good blackout curtains with, with like a small
• 3:54:26
  spot of light that comes in, you'll know if you look hard
• 3:54:29
  enough, the light that comes into your room is the image from
• 3:54:31
  outside. So yeah, that makes me realize
• 3:54:36
  how much I didn't know when I was taking photos back in high
• 3:54:39
  school. I would get like I would get
• 3:54:41
  that feeling whenever I was at a new place and it was like
• 3:54:45
  something that I've always wanted to do.
• 3:54:46
  Like when I was a, when I was at Park.
• 3:54:48
  Yeah. The sun, the sun was setting
• 3:54:50
  streaks through like the the smoke in around the track and
• 3:54:54
  stuff. I just like, put you just put
• 3:54:56
  the camera down. Yeah, that is crazy.
• 3:54:58
  Holy shit, dude. Yeah, I know, shop Park.
• 3:55:00
  Like that's that's something you've wanted to do since you
• 3:55:03
  started shooting since you knew it existed.
• 3:55:04
  You know, which was pretty much the first year of.
• 3:55:07
  So you'd say this year was pretty.
• 3:55:08
  You feel pretty accomplished after this year and and
• 3:55:11
  everything. Well, last year, last year, was
• 3:55:13
  the crazy year where I did last year was so much new shitt.
• 3:55:15
  Yeah, it was park. It was Final about four.
• 3:55:17
  Yeah, but I still think that doing it with people is more fun
• 3:55:20
  this year. Was more like the driving year?
• 3:55:21
  Yeah, yeah. Which that was crazy, too.
• 3:55:24
  Yeah, so your tenting with people is wild experience a fun
• 3:55:31
  time. Yeah.
• 3:55:31
  I never green. It's pretty easy to a lot of
• 3:55:33
  those Corners are low speed which is nice.
• 3:55:38
  Yeah. Definitely.
• 3:55:38
  Definitely fun. I feel like our cars would
• 3:55:40
  tandem good together. All right.
• 3:55:41
  It's Viki. 35 not. Is it a rep?
• 3:55:45
  I don't know what. That's right.
• 3:55:46
  George normal. We would have a good time.
• 3:55:48
  Well, I don't know. Now, my car isn't fucking half.
• 3:55:52
  Okay. Well, um, closing statements, I
• 3:55:56
  had more questions. I just thought of but I forgot
• 3:55:58
  them again. So Oh no, here's one.
• 3:56:02
  Your favorite track doesn't have to be one you've driven, just
• 3:56:05
  you've been to a lot of tracks. Yeah.
• 3:56:07
  So could you Say what your favorite drifting track is.
• 3:56:11
  I think. I don't know.
• 3:56:14
  It's, I mean, they don't have good for different reasons.
• 3:56:16
  Yeah, the thing that looks like I like, I'm a bit of a scaredy
• 3:56:22
  cat so I think I would enjoy technical driving more so you
• 3:56:25
  sir. Yeah, you us are or park.
• 3:56:27
  Park is such an interesting environment, especially being
• 3:56:30
  from the East Coast. Yeah.
• 3:56:31
  Because it's like lots of tall trees and so we have Acres.
• 3:56:36
  Yeah, I'm not used to people calling it.
• 3:56:38
  Oh, I didn't really look it up as Patty Acres.
• 3:56:41
  You think I like about it though.
• 3:56:43
  Is that it has a ton of like weird extensions.
• 3:56:45
  Yeah, I don't know if I know what it looks.
• 3:56:48
  I know the photos look like, but I don't know the track layout,
• 3:56:50
  you know? I mean, yeah, I know it's small.
• 3:56:52
  There's a lot of like Like multiple Apex Corners where you
• 3:56:57
  kind of have to like, set the car perfectly or else you miss.
• 3:56:59
  That's one of those tracks that's on my bucket list.
• 3:57:01
  That's my favorite way to drive is like that.
• 3:57:04
  Like using the full cars momentum because you gotta make
• 3:57:09
  it over there. I can't wait, you can drive us.
• 3:57:11
  Are you can only take? Yeah, I want to certain line or
• 3:57:14
  else, you're not gonna make that clip?
• 3:57:16
  That's us are that's my favorite.
• 3:57:18
  I you know it's it's especially driving now, people start to
• 3:57:22
  like, kind of pay attention to what I say a little bit more,
• 3:57:25
  but there was there were there were times that like, when I
• 3:57:30
  went out with Damien, I was riding.
• 3:57:32
  I wrote the track up on the bunch of different people and
• 3:57:35
  Damien was going out on the super duty layout for his first
• 3:57:37
  lap. Yeah.
• 3:57:39
  And I was just like, just do what I say he's like.
• 3:57:42
  He's like, what do you mean? I'm just like, I know.
• 3:57:44
  I know the, I know the layout just do what I say, and you'll
• 3:57:47
  Hit it first time, he's like, I'm just gonna take it easy.
• 3:57:50
  I'm just gonna take it easy. Well, you know how that goes
• 3:57:51
  like he rolled up to the corner, he breaks in and I was Like all
• 3:57:54
  right, go this way. And he touched tire.
• 3:57:56
  And I was like now, that way and he touched her and then like and
• 3:58:00
  then I pulled like, yank the e-brake and he stopped his
• 3:58:04
  e-brake. No no, I didn't do it.
• 3:58:05
  Oh my God, I told him like yank, the e-brake and he did like a
• 3:58:08
  fucking crazy bakkie, first lap out, what the fuck.
• 3:58:11
  It was sick. It was cool because he was you
• 3:58:14
  know, like he respects my opinion.
• 3:58:16
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 3:58:17
  I mean that's cool dude because I'd watched car.
• 3:58:19
  I'd watched other cars with similar capabilities.
• 3:58:21
  I want to get him on here too. Yeah you should.
• 3:58:24
  Yeah I guess you're gonna want to prepare for that one though.
• 3:58:27
  He's got a wealth of knowledge. That's awesome.
• 3:58:29
  So yeah, yeah. I feel like my brain is about
• 3:58:32
  explode off of this one. I was gonna say.
• 3:58:34
  Yeah, this is a long one for you.
• 3:58:35
  This is the longest one so far. I would say, I think so, yeah,
• 3:58:38
  for sure has to be Um, a metal, I like to meet him.
• 3:58:42
  I mean, I think that podcast, I like have like their place, you
• 3:58:46
  know. I agree.
• 3:58:47
  Um, so I love you guys doing it and especially your stature and
• 3:58:52
  drifting. You can just kind of get Anybody
• 3:58:54
  you want really? Oh, it seems that way.
• 3:58:57
  No one's denied us yet. But we haven't really asked that
• 3:59:00
  many people. But yeah, I hope, I hope that's
• 3:59:02
  the case. I mean, we have plans to um,
• 3:59:07
  Travel look like a country. I mean, obviously, because we
• 3:59:10
  drift when we're when we're all of our cars running we drift, so
• 3:59:13
  we want to bring the Studio, if you will, oh yeah.
• 3:59:17
  With us. Roadshow the Roadshow, it's
• 3:59:19
  gonna be the Roadshow Road Show. Yeah, bro.
• 3:59:23
  Okay. Sponsored by rode know.
• 3:59:25
  I fucking wish. Yeah.
• 3:59:28
  So that's kind of why we got that?
• 3:59:29
  We can unplug it. We can take it.
• 3:59:31
  We got these portable mics with the stands so we we can just do
• 3:59:34
  that. We were joking about in a group
• 3:59:36
  chat the other night. This group chat.
• 3:59:38
  I'm in with a bunch of guys from the Midwest and I'm like Dude
• 3:59:42
  we're gonna have to leave like two weeks early for final bout
• 3:59:44
  to get all you motherfukers. Like there's so many people from
• 3:59:47
  the Midwest that I want to do a podcast on like I feel like I
• 3:59:50
  get The Gleam guys together and do a podcast for five hours.
• 3:59:53
  Yeah like easily because I would just be so interested in their
• 3:59:57
  cars and like everything. So yeah.
• 3:59:59
  See I like to learn. I like I love learning the
• 4:00:02
  history of stuff. Yeah, that's why I built my car.
• 4:00:05
  Shity compared to some cars. Like it's it, you know, really
• 4:00:09
  laggy, like, it makes boosted like 4500 RPM, but that's old,
• 4:00:12
  but it's supposed to exactly. So it's supposed to remind you
• 4:00:17
  of the past what's stuff used to be like, yeah, and it doesn't
• 4:00:20
  need, it doesn't all need to have like ball bearing, you
• 4:00:23
  know. Yeah. 28th at school at 1500 RPM
• 4:00:26
  and feel like, nah, Palace, you know, where?
• 4:00:28
  So we're kind of mean Christmas too.
• 4:00:30
  I'm a big fan of that. Yeah.
• 4:00:33
  That's why the, I like the Japanese stuff so much.
• 4:00:37
  I mean, I don't necessarily follow modern developments and
• 4:00:40
  of course, I see it. I mean, this guy wants to build
• 4:00:41
  a beams engine so you know, we're into that ship.
• 4:00:43
  That is great. That's what I heard tuning in.
• 4:00:48
  Is the worst on those? Yeah, we like old Tech.
• 4:00:51
  Yeah, like power FCS. That's exactly why I see it in
• 4:00:54
  your cars. You know that too.
• 4:00:56
  Yeah, it's pretty obvious at this point.
• 4:00:57
  He only reason why I want to run a beams.
• 4:00:59
  They still make up power severe. Let's go dated.
• 4:01:02
  I like your idea but other people hate it.
• 4:01:04
  Like seeing that Apex C. Dakar at final belt.
• 4:01:07
  Yeah. Was like, changing.
• 4:01:08
  That was one of those moments. I was like, this is insane.
• 4:01:10
  It had like the power FC on the dash and everything.
• 4:01:12
  I'm like, that's what this competition car was tuned on.
• 4:01:15
  Yeah, that's crazy. I was talking to you with carpet
• 4:01:19
  and a dashboard and yeah, like, well, I was talking to I was
• 4:01:24
  talking to the dudes out of pexy and I brought the podcast.
• 4:01:26
  And I was like, oh, by the way, we have a podcast, eventually
• 4:01:30
  I'll get out there. Did he's like, yeah.
• 4:01:32
  Come come here, we'll do one. I was like damn, dude.
• 4:01:34
  Yeah, that's sick. Like so I goes back to what
• 4:01:38
  you're saying before. But yeah, hopefully, the people
• 4:01:40
  I've met and stuff in drifting will help us move this along.
• 4:01:43
  We don't plan on really making any money from it but it's fun
• 4:01:46
  and it helps promote the shop. So yeah, you know, it is what it
• 4:01:49
  is, we got in this because I got a massive headache Last thing I
• 4:01:54
  want to say is your passion for drifting.
• 4:01:57
  And Pretty much everything the culture and everything is very
• 4:02:01
  inspiring, especially to me just through this conversation, so I
• 4:02:04
  appreciate it. Yeah, for sure, dude, keep doing
• 4:02:06
  what you're doing too. Yeah, we really appreciate.
• 4:02:08
  I mean, as a Drifter that's been doing this for a while.
• 4:02:12
  But photographers are like, you know go ahead and yeah it's like
• 4:02:15
  one of the most important things.
• 4:02:16
  So we appreciate what you do. That's hilarious.
• 4:02:19
  Your service. Yes.
• 4:02:20
  Yes yesterday. Yeah.
• 4:02:21
  Did I or did I not say when I was taking photos at Summit this
• 4:02:25
  past weekend? I was like, next time I get a
• 4:02:26
  photo from somebody or meteor or something.
• 4:02:29
  I'm gonna make sure I thank him real good.
• 4:02:31
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 4:02:32
  It's hard. Yeah.
• 4:02:33
  Like it's difficult and not a lot of people get the credit.
• 4:02:36
  They're just like, where's the photos?
• 4:02:38
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 4:02:39
  You always get that one guy in the group chat after the event.
• 4:02:42
  You know? Where's the secret photos?
• 4:02:44
  Anybody have any pictures of my three 350Z?
• 4:02:49
  Yeah. I'm the kind of, I'm the dude
• 4:02:51
  that comments and I'm like your car's ugly.
• 4:02:53
  Dude. No one's taking photos of it but
• 4:02:55
  no, I feel greatly going to like the Prime Minister.
• 4:02:58
  Yeah. And I I get a DM and it's a
• 4:03:02
  photo my car. And I just feel greatly
• 4:03:04
  appreciated. I tell him like yeah I do.
• 4:03:07
  Thank you really didn't have to take it.
• 4:03:08
  No, no, no. I'm specifically talking about
• 4:03:11
  Motorsports photos because of the effort that it takes to
• 4:03:15
  You're, you're following a subject.
• 4:03:17
  Yeah, you're not just, it's not a stationary thing.
• 4:03:20
  It's like a difficult thing to do and much respect to you for.
• 4:03:25
  That's why I want to solve the, the one.
• 4:03:27
  It was an evil from the rally Sprint.
• 4:03:28
  Yeah. Like it literally is like
• 4:03:30
  perfect. It was a good shot.
• 4:03:31
  Like that was your first one? Yeah.
• 4:03:33
  That's one of your early ones. Like it's literally perfect and
• 4:03:36
  this weekend like I had the time to play with a camera and I'm
• 4:03:39
  like damn this shit is fucking hard as hell.
• 4:03:41
  Like you have to literally be following and on a side of that,
• 4:03:45
  you mentioned the Prime Meats. Yeah, I went to my first seven,
• 4:03:49
  stay with the Z and I got tagged by people.
• 4:03:51
  I never heard of that shit's wild.
• 4:03:55
  I don't have my Instagram on my car or any of that.
• 4:03:57
  Oh yeah. So people know you the fact that
• 4:03:59
  people find find you. Yeah.
• 4:04:02
  That's tagged you. Oh yeah, that's a photographer.
• 4:04:04
  Who was shooting girls? Like it wasn't like a, it wasn't
• 4:04:07
  like a car guy. He was like he went to this
• 4:04:10
  event to take pictures of this girl.
• 4:04:11
  You've probably done the same thing with drivers.
• 4:04:14
  Yeah, right. Because you took a photo and
• 4:04:16
  you're like, I want this person to see this?
• 4:04:17
  Yeah, I mean so, but usually the events help with that.
• 4:04:20
  Yeah, it's seven days it's just like a free for all, you know
• 4:04:23
  there. Yeah.
• 4:04:25
  So much fun. Well, seven day on that subject
• 4:04:28
  since you mentioned that. Oh yeah, for anybody, that's
• 4:04:31
  listening now, and I'm telling you now are next week's.
• 4:04:35
  Guest is prima, do I see Edwin and props?
• 4:04:37
  So that should be a pretty interesting, one day.
• 4:04:40
  Yeah. In my opinion, I think they host
• 4:04:41
  were the most iconic, East Coast.
• 4:04:44
  Public events, quote, unquote, public.
• 4:04:46
  I mean, it is like an invite like a car meet but it's like
• 4:04:49
  but it's one of the most memorable events I've ever been
• 4:04:52
  to. They throw like car meets but
• 4:04:54
  they're basically shows. Yeah.
• 4:04:56
  In the street in the streets. Oh yeah, it's nuts.
• 4:05:00
  So that should be interesting because I don't know shit about
• 4:05:02
  any of that. Yeah they do.
• 4:05:04
  I go to him. You haven't lived until you've
• 4:05:06
  seen a police response to a stylish car meet in the biggest
• 4:05:11
  city in. Oh yeah.
• 4:05:12
  And there's their respective. Yeah.
• 4:05:14
  Yeah dude. Oh so I have a photo of my car
• 4:05:17
  on. I don't know if you want to put
• 4:05:18
  it up real quick but it was a I took it in the middle of the
• 4:05:22
  street in New York Wednesday. Yeah.
• 4:05:24
  And it's like it's one of my all-time favorite photos.
• 4:05:29
  I say it's one of those. It's like the photo I built the
• 4:05:32
  car for yeah. That one that photo is, is the
• 4:05:37
  reason that give me one second? Yeah, no problem.
• 4:05:41
  You can see that like caliber of cars and these pictures, like, I
• 4:05:47
  took I just yeah. So you guys rolling through.
• 4:05:52
  Signal Auto had their Arthur had the signal Auto R34, was there a
• 4:05:56
  few years ago, when I still had my s13?
• 4:05:58
  And I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, some dude bought all those
• 4:06:03
  cars? Yeah.
• 4:06:03
  Redline Restorations open. Yeah.
• 4:06:06
  So that photo I got. I took that photo of my own car.
• 4:06:10
  I it's parked in the middle of a public and open Street.
• 4:06:13
  And yeah, those are the best shots.
• 4:06:16
  And I, I was as soon as I stood up and looked behind me, there
• 4:06:21
  was a police van with two officers in it and I, and
• 4:06:24
  literally my heart sank. I'm like sick.
• 4:06:26
  They're gonna take the car, like, I'm being a dick head and
• 4:06:28
  they're, they're gonna want to impound it or do something like,
• 4:06:31
  harass me because, you know, and the dude was just like, fuck,
• 4:06:35
  you like thumbs up like big smile from ear to ear like he
• 4:06:39
  knew what it was. Yeah.
• 4:06:40
  Those cops do really issues. Yeah yeah and like like NYPD is
• 4:06:45
  is different. Yeah and they build different,
• 4:06:48
  they proved that at least to me in that moment.
• 4:06:52
  They were like stoked for me having experienced.
• 4:06:54
  I was like, damn was not expecting that, you gentlemen.
• 4:06:57
  Well, that goes to show you that that event is run by mature
• 4:07:01
  people and right, they probably talked to the cops already.
• 4:07:03
  They probably know everything and behind the most part
• 4:07:06
  directly behind me as I'm taking that photo.
• 4:07:07
  Is that road completely clogged with Cars like with RX7.
• 4:07:12
  Yeah. 100 100 cars. Just stuffed into this tiny
• 4:07:15
  block and Harlem, but anyways. Yes, all right.
• 4:07:18
  Well sorry for keeping you guys. Oh no, it's fine.
• 4:07:20
  I know this is, this was again, one of the most engaging
• 4:07:24
  Podcasts. I think we've had, yeah.
• 4:07:27
  We're like What? Well, we also talked about like,
• 4:07:29
  shooting yourself and stuff. Well, yeah, of course.
• 4:07:31
  We've of course, I'll talk about shooting yourself.
• 4:07:32
  Um, yeah, anytime Carl's. Here we go.
• 4:07:34
  Rams and dumb shit. Just kidding car.
• 4:07:36
  All right. I'm not gonna do an outro.
• 4:07:39
  I'm gonna do it tomorrow morning and we're gonna put it at the
• 4:07:41
  end of it. So, thank you guys for
• 4:07:43
  listening. Thank you for hanging out on the
• 4:07:46
  is anyone even in the lot 10 people are still in here that
• 4:07:48
  you 10 people? 10 guys, are you guys are the
• 4:07:51
  fucking thanks for physical and DPS.
• 4:07:54
  We use that word in this chat anymore.
• 4:07:59
  Can't be multiple goats though. It can only be one Carl show you
• 4:08:03
  a goat later? No, thank you.
• 4:08:04
  All right, that's it guys. Hope you enjoyed it.
• 4:08:07
  See you on the next one. Peace out guys can do this.
• 4:08:11
  Yes, sir. Hi lit.
• 4:08:13
  The ship me lad. I was.
• 4:08:23
  All right, guys. Thanks for checking this one
• 4:08:24
  out. I had a really good time with
• 4:08:26
  this Scott. Scott's, one of those people
• 4:08:29
  that's been around the community for a while and I see him in
• 4:08:32
  almost every event. So, it was good to finally sit
• 4:08:35
  down and have a real conversation with them because
• 4:08:36
  you know when you're at the track and stuff like that,
• 4:08:38
  you're kind of just seeing these people in passing and not
• 4:08:41
  really, you know, chatting with them or anything like that.
• 4:08:43
  So it was a really awesome to sit down and talk to him and
• 4:08:48
  really get an idea of how passionate he is about taking
• 4:08:53
  photographs. And basically drifting in
• 4:08:54
  general I mean he's very passionate about it and that
• 4:08:57
  that inspires me and probably a bunch of other people too.
• 4:09:00
  So I hope you guys have that same reaction from this one.
• 4:09:03
  Another news. What do we have going on right
• 4:09:07
  now? We are in the process of well,
• 4:09:11
  actually, this week, we're probably gonna release a brake
• 4:09:14
  line. Clamp for s13.
• 4:09:18
  I believe this works for us 14, too, but we'll clarify that This
• 4:09:21
  is basically just a replacement part for a discontinued Nissan
• 4:09:24
  clip that goes in the engine bay and holds your brake line
• 4:09:28
  secure. I you know these are the kind of
• 4:09:30
  things that we really like making and selling because it's
• 4:09:33
  it's stuff that like, I would put on my car.
• 4:09:35
  So, We we really excited about, we're really excited about
• 4:09:40
  things like this, so hopefully you guys are too.
• 4:09:42
  It's not a big product or anything like that, but it's
• 4:09:45
  just one of those little things that we're trying to get out
• 4:09:47
  there in other news. The thrash racing seats will be
• 4:09:50
  arriving in I think a week from the last, the last I heard, but
• 4:09:56
  the problem is they have to be unloaded from the container then
• 4:09:58
  they got to get shipped. So I'm telling everyone right
• 4:10:01
  now. You're eta's are looking like
• 4:10:02
  January first, seeing your seats, so a little bit later
• 4:10:06
  than we wanted. But At least at least the ships
• 4:10:09
  on its way. What else we got going on here?
• 4:10:13
  I wanted to I just want to mention that we are still
• 4:10:16
  shipping things from Japan directly.
• 4:10:18
  So there is an origin, container, arriving, and being
• 4:10:22
  on loaded, but it's it's mostly filled with pre-orders.
• 4:10:25
  So if you, if you didn't order anything, you're probably not
• 4:10:29
  going to get anything out of this container.
• 4:10:31
  So if you need something fast and you need to ship it from
• 4:10:35
  Japan, we still have that option available on our website.
• 4:10:37
  Hopefully you guys took advantage of our Black Friday
• 4:10:40
  sale. We were doing 10% off on a lot
• 4:10:43
  of different Arrow Brands. So but if not, we're still
• 4:10:46
  selling stuff. It's just obviously a little bit
• 4:10:48
  more expensive because we have to Airship it from Japan.
• 4:10:50
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• 4:11:35
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