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Ep 215 - "Trap Game?" Saints vs Jets Week 16 Preview · Saints Block Party Podcast

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hashtag no music no intro we are.
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[SPEAKER_01]: back the Saints plot party podcast, presented by precious works LLC, Adam, join by my dude co-host Ryan aka Wolf.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are recording Wednesday night for the week 16 football season, at least for the Saints.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost over.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The week 16 preview pod, Saints,
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[SPEAKER_01]: If the Saints can real off three in a row.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking about this, but we could serve upon this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, damn, the D.A.
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[SPEAKER_02]: went three in a row, and I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's what I run it in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, end in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he went through it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, if this is your first time watching or joining us, uh, we are S.B.P.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Saints, Pop Party podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have covered the Saints over the last six years in this podcast, done multiple things such as a senior bowl and if I'll combine this year, multiple pro days, this year, um, let's see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: awful games like I don't know bruh, they have not they absolutely he did absolutely didn't not win three in a row.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're killing do it, killing this quit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wesley said I think he won three in a row to end 2023, like after the Rams game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that too he did not did not, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, terrible, anyhow, this would be impressive if Kelly was able to pull this off and went through in a row and have the team still fighting still, you know, scratching, clawing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: when they're obviously already in one minute for playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But before we get into the game, before we get into the game, I wanted to like, I want to give a shout out to our dude Tony who's in the chat who had sold her surgery today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The shout out for Tony, shout out to Tony, man, my dude was speedy recovery.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to give you a number, and then give you a number, Ryan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 3,660.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think that is?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That is the number of views are recap pod on Sunday night has accumulated from Sunday till today, which is Wednesday.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you haven't listened to it, you can listen to it, you can go back and listen to it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're watching on YouTube, you can please like and subscribe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just something I want to put out there in terms of
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[SPEAKER_01]: whatever you want to call it, you can call it a narrative of that gets spoken about our podcast what we do is that's just like we love being naysay or you love being, you know, negative Nancy's all that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's never been the case, like as two people who are co-owners of a business, it is always logistically and logically made sense for us for the Saints to be doing well, which is winning and playing well and inspiring hope.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Guess what, of the last two weeks against the bucks, against the Panthers, that's what the team's currently doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we all, and we just had an episode that eclipse our highest episode in terms of views, which was to mean the times episode earlier this summer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it has never been about us always waiting to be negative and in a state and the negative.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have always kept it like it was and kept it real.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we've always praised the team when they've done well now, over almost doing this for six years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They, those seasons have been few and far between, they've only made the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's, since we've been doing this podcast, what's, well, that was, Sean Payne's last year?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sean Payne's last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, second, second, it was for this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're for last, it's a blur at this point, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a blur.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we've always wanted to team to be successful and give us his fans to be excited and to be happy about that just has not been the case for the last.
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[SPEAKER_01]: few seasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And this, this stretch, this stretch right here is the most hope that the saints have had since Sean Payne has left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Think about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Since Sean Payne has left, this is the most hope that the fan base has had.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And our numbers show that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure people who are other saints, contact creators, their numbers were reflect that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I just wanted to just snuff out that stupid narrative that we always want to
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[SPEAKER_01]: never been the fucking case.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a knowing that it has been a narrative and I just wanted to just squash that shit off top.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean it's day to me, but I mean bro, like I haven't seen the Saints community like this, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even like the first two games last year because even though we was, you know, it was like fun those first two games last year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They were still
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[SPEAKER_02]: Black cloud in the background is like, uh, but how long, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But this is like different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is just completely different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like hope for the future.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like just just, you know, that dark road that ends terminated too, but except this time, it's like, it's a little light down there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, oh, I could see some hope, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I could see some beauty, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I'm going somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I got a destination I can get to, man, it's just that hope, and I like seeing that, but I like going on Twitter and seeing people just, just, you know, we talked about the draft, we talked about how to build, you know, what can we build?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Instead of just, this constant miracle round of, you know, we're gonna get a quarterback, our coach sucks, our quarterback sucks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Team sucks, owner sucks, GM sucks, I'm just like you just get tired of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just nice to have some kind of little piece of hope to let you on to whether it's real or not, you know, I think I'll say this, it is now like I look forward to like I look forward to game days now like I was like, yeah, like we play on Sunday, right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the past kind of like not like it was a chore, but just like I boy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go, how does this, how does it's going to be?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How does it's going to be?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it is crazy, and I said it on a recap by that he's a franchise quarterback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I'm pretty mature, I'm saying it by it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's crazy how the perception and the vibe and the mood and just everything for a team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Franchise wise can change if you hit on a,
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[SPEAKER_01]: whether he's 26 or not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you hit on a young quarterback, it changes the game entirely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know we don't want to, you know, it's like it's kind of like pulling teeth, but a lot of credit goes to the killing more in Mickey Loomis for that 2025 draft class because I like I report it on I know I know with.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's our report on our draft recap.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a still patreon only five believe in terms of things that we're hearing like that class was
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[SPEAKER_01]: This class this year was a collaboration of Kelli Moore Mickey Lumus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much input If at all that Jeff Ireland had into decision making and if you just want to Talk about like how much that of reality that was all you have to go back is look at the picture that was taken after they drafted Kelvin banks when the whole room was then and Like it was like Kobe bruh like it was like 10 feet away from each other brothers.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They surprised they didn't mess up
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, I don't know the picture, it's iconic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, nearly every pick that they dropped it in the non-pixel they had, besides Vernon Broughton, because we don't know what he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mascato, no, which is weird, because he's like six, seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's probably a little premature to give Danny Stussman
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[SPEAKER_01]: like he's a good pick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he will be a good pick, but we just need to see it in the full-time role, but that's impressive to hit on Kevin Banks, Tyler Schuck, Quincy, Riley, Jonas Sanker, Devon Neal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a press about and listen, this team has desperately needed it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's greatly needed a good drop class.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it just shows that when they really do need it,
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[SPEAKER_02]: talent to do it, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, because I remember 2017 before that, you have Sean Peyton speaking somewhere.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like, look, this is a, this is a draft we really need to hit on, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: So like they could do it, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: They could do it, but they just I don't know if it's focused.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it is, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: They just got to do anything to another one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They need another one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This coming year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: desperately, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a draft lead, a lot of the foundation, you can count on a page a junior year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He just, I put in the film study, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was his best game of his, is a pro this past year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know he wasn't, I know he wasn't going against like, you know, the Nick Boses of the world and that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But he did what he had to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he shut them out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He went along, no pressures.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was great in the run game, like they were in the Devon Hill touchdown, they moved him to the right side, put him in like tight in stance right outside of Fwaga.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he just took Nick's court and all the way to the end zone, but I just took him took my ride, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then afterwards he was like, yeah, I love this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate that he got a penalty on when he blocked and got to the second level and pancake the line back here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just like, it was like, that was the penalty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He did the AI and it won't go on and won't go off his phone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Over your head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, man, come on, man, that was beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was, that's a big brother like as much as we,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Side and all the you know come back pick I don't give any ideas for don't give me any ideas for For just a more we could We could No, I do with the online just chill with the online.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We could you did good with kelvin's bakes we pray for food
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[SPEAKER_02]: They shake back and look, he looked fine versus the panthers, which is hopefully, you know, it's health, the reins are bright and just get to the all season, get healthy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's all I want.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the rest of the picks man look, can we get that, like seriously, can we get dentist?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's like y'all have seen the evidence of what happens when you play your young players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Good things can happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get Danny Stuffman out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The muggle jacks have been on team about about four, five, six, eight years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: About eight years and now he's getting the fins of play out a week with the damn shot with the bears.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What did I say?
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[SPEAKER_02]: What's on the team for eight years?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've said it, brother.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That bond, the Marco Jackson Kaden Ellis,
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just had long back and back for you, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember, you remember how hard it was for the Saints in the front of the back?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like just a quality linebacker, it was so hard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now we just, we just, just give it to the league.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To see you go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You want a linebacker?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That thought Anthony Curtis Lothen, James Lournite, is like, we, we don't been through some shit that long back and forth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't have to have some, some, some, some, that's a lot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how, that's how,
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[SPEAKER_02]: Starry was was like, well done, boy, what was his name?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, what was that blind back at name, man?
13:22
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember his name.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was, you know, oh, they would hop the horn?
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[SPEAKER_02]: No, uh, God damn, I forgot his name.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was with us in no nine, two, oh nine, two, eleven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, trying to think of CS.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh, there you go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
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[SPEAKER_01]: bitch for Danny stuff's been, but is Pete Warner at this point drastically better than Danny stuff's.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what the question boils down to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I'll get like forget the memorial David's question.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like Pete Warner, like you were telling me like we got a law to you to him, like seriously.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's not replaceable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, come on, that's what it was down to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to catch up on the chat really quickly, Tony said, appreciate y'all and I managed not to say anything outrageous before the anesthesia wore off, but that anesthesia would have you saying this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, shit, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wesley said, man, people are crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like you are one of the most positive of the things posed out there right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I just feel like we should.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, no, no, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just very realistic about the sense.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then whatever, whatever they're giving us, you're gonna call them out on it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the opposite?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Saints went three in a row and Shucks looks good again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, I might shiftfully into fucked-in picks mode.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's where this is something I want to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Before we get into the jet-skinned.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With things going as well as well as they are with the team right now,
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[SPEAKER_01]: talk to you know some friends about this and and what have you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh thank you Luke let me know that we have over 50 2500 subscribers on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we gained like probably like 35 or 40 over a month or Sundays episodes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So appreciate y'all for uh subscribe and if you aren't
15:51
[SPEAKER_01]: in this offseason with, you know, let's say they win, let's say they went out the rest of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's say they go, they go what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Six and no, six and six and 11, what I'm saying, let's say they go six and 11.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You had them win in six, you haven't won in six games at the beginning of this season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had them win in five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they'd be in like the range of where we had them, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it looks completely different.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If Chuck continues to play well down the
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say the concern, but there is some talks of if that's how the season ends.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How does the team go about this off season?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do they try to...
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[SPEAKER_01]: see that they got the foundation and they continue to add to it and build slowly like as like potentially like a responsible team would do and feel like you know what we're still not close to contending right like but we got something here let's just build this develop or they just go the route where making limits is like shit we beat the bucks one time this season we flipped the
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go all in whatever all in looks like and just and just is just goes back to that Reckless kind of short-sighted way of team building and there's talks that it may be the latter That's where I feel like if as a team and as a organization you can get yourself in trouble because you put yourself back in the same place of how you got there like the Derek card contract was an all-in short-sighted move
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just, so that's not, if I have one worry to trace from 2022 with, uh, with to the thing and in the lobby.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All that is like short-sighted moves is not thinking long term.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not doing an approach of trying to slowly build.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's my biggest worry about this offseason where they may see this and it isn't present.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if it happened, they go six and
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[SPEAKER_01]: But then they, and I say, they, I mean, Mickey Lumis, like, says, like, shit, we can contend.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we can compete for a championship right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see him, you see my team?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, nigga, can we get a lot first?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can we get some, like, don't, those are the things that were me in this upcoming office season.
18:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Skiz, the shit out of me, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, that's, that's what skiz me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not saying, like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: the same shit going to the next all season and be penny pensioners or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, I think they should be like measured, measured aggressive, I don't know whatever you want to worry.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They should be aggressive, but like targeted aggression towards like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: developing your team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm going to sign some 25 or 26 year old free agents that show some, you know, that could be hidden at prime and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, going, you know, big some smart, maybe a smart trade here there, but don't, you know, don't sell your future away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't do anything crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't trade your first second round picks away.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't
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[SPEAKER_02]: pay past their prime veterans ridiculous money just to come in and give you a year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't do that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Focus that energy and that money on younger players, development players, and stuff like that, nurturing like the entire organization, bringing a new coach in for whatever reason, or something.
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[SPEAKER_02]: pass for a specialist or a run game specialist or something like that somebody to help the offensive line like focus on ways to just nurture what you already got bubbly a little bit you know what I'm saying but don't go crazy man like I just hope you just don't go crazy you barely got cap space this coming off season this day like you're like nine million over some like that once the reshuffle of contracts a little bit they're going to have plenty of
20:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Just that's a good thing Mickey like that that don't mean you got to spin it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like You know, you know, you know, we all I know I am get a little extra like, oh, let me go What can I buy now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I know in the back of my mind that's not how you should thank you should put that little money away Put that in the savings account.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say for a rainy day That's what you should be doing next year Twenty twenty seven Your cap is going to be looking beautiful theoretically
20:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say Chuck Pazer, really good second year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you see that development where you like instead of asking yourself, is he the guy you're thinking, wow, he is the guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then you could just, oh, you could really go for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then boy, then you could go in, sign up, you know, the top edge wrestler that's hitting the market or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what they can do it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cause you know, you've nurtured to the point,
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[SPEAKER_02]: where you set the foundation, and you build, but don't jump the good man, you're the good spot right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't mess it up.
21:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And one thing, all that you said, which I agree with 100%, that also kind of goes into that.
21:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, don't bring the band back together, meaning,
21:19
[SPEAKER_01]: The Mario, I'd be fine with him bringing cam back on like a decent deal, but like a decent cheap deal if he wanted to come back.
21:25
[SPEAKER_01]: But like the Mario, the self-scouting for a latte really has to be on point because I just feel like they're going, I just feel like I think I'm just bringing back bro.
21:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That three, three, three, thirty.
21:37
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I'm supposed to say three, thirty.
21:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three, three,
22:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's the way you put on tape and what do you put on tape last year would and then it's a Okay, like that that self-scouting has to be
22:20
[SPEAKER_01]: on point, that's something that they struggle with so much recently.
22:25
[SPEAKER_01]: We just talked about it with a lot of backers that a lot of backers have gone to the league and in the tabby major success.
22:29
[SPEAKER_01]: And that loyalty thing, like, oh, we, you know, let's just bring the Mario back, because he's a free agent, but he's like the heart and soul of our defense.
22:39
[SPEAKER_01]: And then also if we bring him back, we don't have a dead cap on our, on our cap space.
22:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And if we resign him, kind of like they did with Chase Young and John Johnson this year,
22:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, look, I'm not saying that Danny Sussman is going to be a great middle line background thing like that, but like you, like, those are the things where I'm just like, if they were signed to Mario, they were signed to him, they were signed to a lot.
23:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like, like, that's the things where teens get in trouble and this team has often done that numerous times.
23:09
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, at some point, you got to turn the page and look to get better, go find the next memorial, go find the next, you know, whatever, like, go find the next guy that could actually take the police and like give you another eight to 10 years of good plea.
23:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, but it's just an example of dragging it out.
23:27
[SPEAKER_01]: For example, this is when they, they went to Super Bowl, but they either won, I think it's when they won the Super Bowl.
23:35
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think it was when they lost the
23:38
[SPEAKER_01]: and they basically cut, he wasn't there, he wasn't there, he was already a square there, but they cut, they're a sleigh, but they cut them.
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: because they realized like, hey, like, he played some great ballfores when he was here, but he's at the end of his rope.
23:56
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to go out and, you know, see what we need to do to replace him.
24:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And they ended up with fucking drafting Cooper Degene and Quentin McQueen on Mitchell and the same fucking drapera who were one of like two of the best young,
24:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So, that's why that's what I say is that y'all, they have to have that self-awareness and ability to self-scop themselves to not put them in the same hole as they were before.
24:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Will they?
24:27
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's weird because they've given us mixed signals because, you know, they traded or she's a he, you know, they let, you know, cooks go like those are signals like look, we are focused on doing the right thing, doing the smart thing, we build the blah, blah, blah, blah.
24:43
[SPEAKER_02]: But as you know, things change quickly in that building like that.
24:47
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a little run at the end of the season.
24:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Make you go ahead of your hands and it's packed.
24:53
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
24:56
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25:00
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
25:01
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25:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's actually take our first break.
25:07
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are back and we're jumping into this preview pod talking about Saints Jets Week 16.
26:52
[SPEAKER_01]: If the Saints can roll off three wins in the row and I'm going to tell you Ryan,
26:57
[SPEAKER_01]: This game has, it is funny because like the Saints are favorite four and a half points.
27:03
[SPEAKER_01]: This game has like the makings of a trap game for the Saints.
27:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Saints with a trap game?
27:10
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
27:10
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
27:11
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
27:12
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
27:13
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
27:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's tell you what, the, how I see it.
27:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron Glenn, fired defensive coordinator Steve Wilkes earlier this week, which means that he's going to be calling plays, the just that one worst defenses in the league, however,
27:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Like typically when you're preparing for a team, you're preparing for what a team defense has done over the season, like what their trends are, their blitz packages, all that.
28:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, now that's kind of out the window.
28:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So now they're probably gonna have to go and look at what Aaron Glenn was running potentially with the lions and things like that.
28:08
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what a smart coach will do them for the same thing.
28:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You would think, you would start doing it.
28:14
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's still this unknown of,
28:18
[SPEAKER_01]: You have the head coach now calling to defensive plays.
28:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And the things are favorite.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: So now that the judge has been underdog and almost on every game of the season.
28:29
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're losing offensive juice on the offensive and when you already didn't have offensive juice, they signed the Heim Heinz to their practice squad today, maybe he plays on Sunday, maybe not.
28:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is another game and I get it.
28:46
[SPEAKER_01]: don't have a pass for us.
28:47
[SPEAKER_01]: They struggle with us in the past.
28:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So they send a lot of blitzes, you know, four or five, six man blitzes that rarely typically get there.
28:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler Schuck has been good against the blitz lately, but there's this feeling of, I won't say it's fools go, but,
29:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler shookers really going to have to truly uplift the team offensively on so and I don't care just to get suggest like you talking about they go have estimate a lot of they Kevin Austin junior Mason tipped right it's gross it's gross right gross he's doing it and and
29:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it means nothing, but I do feel like Aaron Glenn is going to be very ant to try to win this game.
29:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Because back when Sean Peyton stepped down, they did their coaching search, you know, Aaron Glenn blew his interview with the Saints out the water.
29:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they completely had them like, oh shit.
29:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, they still went with DA and I would likely guess Aaron Glenn if you would ask him would say that that's probably best for him because he got to go to Detroit and mature more as a coordinator and all that.
30:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But I still feel like he's going to come into this game and want to win this game badly.
30:16
[SPEAKER_01]: No question.
30:17
[SPEAKER_01]: No question, Bernie, go.
30:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Aaron Glenn can like.
30:22
[SPEAKER_02]: He could put together a good defense of performance every night and burn, like even with mindset, I've seen him do it with the Lions back in the day, even when, you know, like the, especially those earlier Lions teams, when they first got there, Warren not talented at all, like they were not talented, struggled a lot on defense, but he would still come up with plans every night and that would give teams fits.
30:46
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, to give
30:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Chuck and them good the guy's credit man like they've been facing a lot of stuff like they've been seeing a lot of exotic stuff and Chuck been hanging in there so it's gonna be interesting to see how he just continues to build on what he's done so far like just keep on building it's you don't have talent you just gonna have to keep depending on your mind alive a you know bro he was making Kevin Austin looking like a serviceable
31:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, yes, but that's like, that's what good good quarterback talent can do, man.
31:24
[SPEAKER_02]: It can really uplift the people around you.
31:28
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not about the same brother.
31:30
[SPEAKER_01]: All the players that had to be uplifted and all.
31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: No matter who the quarterback is, it's basically like a tip.
31:36
[SPEAKER_01]: He's good on kickoff returns.
31:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Good on, but like here, and in functional offense.
31:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Like theoretically he could be like a crystal lava, but like he's softened in crystal lava.
31:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't run the routes as crisp as crystal lava.
31:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I just like I'm I'm tired of it, but it's like this all we got.
32:04
[SPEAKER_02]: We ain't got much else, you know, estimate look good, man.
32:07
[SPEAKER_02]: He even looked good in some of his past protection spots.
32:10
[SPEAKER_02]: So like give me more him, man.
32:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Use estimate of doing chillin, chillin all season or chillin.
32:16
[SPEAKER_02]: He got rustleys, used them fresh leys, Evan Hall, and look, shut.
32:22
[SPEAKER_02]: going to be on his right arm again, bro.
32:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it is going to be on him again and on his legs too to kind of get this done.
32:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we saw what Trevor Lawrence did to the jets, uh, I think it got six touchdowns like five five past one rushing to some.
32:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Toma, Toma.
32:40
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm sure Aaron gliss is not going to want to repeat that before him.
32:44
[SPEAKER_02]: It's they haven't had a interception this season.
32:47
[SPEAKER_02]: That's still can't believe it.
32:49
[SPEAKER_02]: That's changing.
32:50
[SPEAKER_02]: That's under
32:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love somebody, let me do it like what the bets are out there.
32:56
[SPEAKER_02]: They need to prop bets on that, only just getting it.
32:59
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm very fascinated by that, like, because that's gonna be something.
33:03
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just gonna be something just to watch.
33:05
[SPEAKER_02]: If they finally get into the session versus the Saints, it's just gonna happen, bro.
33:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna happen.
33:10
[SPEAKER_02]: But the Jets say it, but Jets say it, right, the Jets are not good at, bro.
33:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm like, damn, what happened to the Jets?
33:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought they had like a defense,
33:22
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33:44
[SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah, it's not a set.
33:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, one take.
33:49
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna go, oh, Binky, thank you over there, man.
33:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah.
33:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Binky, man.
33:57
[SPEAKER_02]: Binky got kicked out of the game, man, as we did.
33:59
[SPEAKER_01]: He did.
34:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I just, I want, I'm just saying this.
34:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, I'm not trying to be negative.
34:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But.
34:09
[SPEAKER_01]: this has the makings of a trap game.
34:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't mean that they're not going to win.
34:15
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're like this game just exposes a lot of opportunities where there could be some faltering.
34:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Because what the team's dealing with offensively in terms of the healthy people and the not healthy players, I just really get this sense like,
34:33
[SPEAKER_01]: If it's like in a third quarter and it's like still close, I'm, like, don't be surprised, it's basically what I'm saying.
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: That's, and everything I'm saying is game.
34:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Even while winning.
34:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You, you would potentially think that the same should be able to pull away from the just pretty easily, but like they're not that, they're not that team.
34:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, excuse me.
34:55
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just not that team.
34:57
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a growing team.
34:58
[SPEAKER_02]: That's was interesting like What did they go crazy like what did they tap into some stuff we haven't seen the deep ball?
35:05
[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't really seen a deep ball.
35:07
[SPEAKER_02]: We saw it against the Panthers.
35:09
[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty much it
35:10
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
35:11
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
35:12
[SPEAKER_02]: They've taken a few shots.
35:13
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't take me any last week.
35:15
[SPEAKER_02]: So I have a field in it going to try to hit those, try to just bury them early instead of all that short stuff early, because you've got to take shots early, because all of it.
35:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever they're doing early in games, I don't know, just stop scripting it out of a period.
35:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Teams are doubt into it.
35:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, we have 50 concurrent viewers on right now, uh, a 139 views, appreciate y'all who were listening on a late Wednesday night.
35:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, right you can ask, do you guys think Tyler's arm talent is in the upper echelon with my home's Allen and Caleb or is he below them?
35:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I would say that he's below them.
35:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say he's below.
35:58
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's still like, how I guess my question is,
36:04
[SPEAKER_01]: how different of arm talent does Tyler's shock and Matthew Staffer have.
36:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm about to say it's about it.
36:12
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about it to a step for level.
36:15
[SPEAKER_02]: But you're like, which is super impressive.
36:18
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's that's that's that's the upper, the upper quarter of quarterbacks.
36:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, he's in that, he's in that range.
36:26
[SPEAKER_02]: He got a whole spare.
36:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, some of them throw as he made men and things coming out.
36:30
[SPEAKER_02]: coming out smoking.
36:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, man, like we watch it in the in the last year.
36:37
[SPEAKER_01]: We like it takes us there.
36:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Look at the wrist, too, man.
36:43
[SPEAKER_02]: It's something to see.
36:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So, no, I think he's one of the stronger on quarterback.
36:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And we knew that.
36:49
[SPEAKER_02]: We knew that coming in.
36:51
[SPEAKER_02]: He showed good on, but like seeing it with the saints in the field is just kind of like, man, he really do that like a
36:57
[SPEAKER_02]: like a hose on them, you know what I'm saying?
36:59
[SPEAKER_02]: Because we're not like rattlers, some like, we know rattler got a nice on them too, but even like compared to rattlers, like tame.
37:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
37:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I would say in terms of arm strength, they haven't had a quarterback like this since Aaron Brooks.
37:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Like just in like, you're easy.
37:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You're arm talent.
37:15
[SPEAKER_02]: You're arm talent.
37:16
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the closest you could compare his Aaron Brooks, because Aaron Brooks had a freaking bazooka.
37:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and that's the closest you could.
37:25
[SPEAKER_02]: We just haven't really been able to see him like on cork your crazy Just just do it all for it to set up.
37:29
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a lot of stuff.
37:31
[SPEAKER_02]: The way defense is play Just the talent we don't you just don't have the talent that can really stretch the field like talking about especially since they trade it So he so we haven't really seen him on cork it, but the fact that he is so good in an intermediate area And he's able to hit those throws that shows you right there because those are some hard throws they are
37:52
[SPEAKER_01]: They are, and he delivers them with like pinpoint accuracy, and they come out hot.
37:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take our last break of the pod, we'll come back talking about the Saints defense against the Jets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we are back talking Saints defense going to suggest offense.
39:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe the just will be starting for his second game, uh, Brady, uh, Ricky quarterback Brady cook and I'll say this.
39:39
[SPEAKER_01]: The Saints defense has been much improved lately.
39:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the jets.
39:45
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, kind it's it's funny because of how their built like their built at least offensive line wise, very similar to the Saints where they drafted very high their left tackle the right tackle, like just like the Saints have done the past two drafts.
40:00
[SPEAKER_01]: They say I've reached all and you know 80 Mitchell, I don't know who else are just receivers, but you know 80 Mitchell.
40:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Mitchie over there.
40:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you know, John met you.
40:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I was biking on him.
40:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I know they released Alan Lazzard this week.
40:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I know Mitchie, Mason Taylor is in concussion protocol.
40:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, don't know if he's going to be ready to go.
40:29
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a, this is a game where
40:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Brennan's daily, unleashed his dealings, please.
40:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, please, like, let's shut them down.
40:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Just don't die.
40:51
[SPEAKER_02]: Stop playing, like, go ahead and shut this shit.
40:54
[SPEAKER_02]: They're pretty cook, come on now.
40:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I know you ain't like a,
40:57
[SPEAKER_02]: He's 22 or 33, 176 yards, three interceptions.
41:01
[SPEAKER_02]: But I come on, man, like, stop it.
41:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Go in, like, eat, eat, eat.
41:09
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't let them move the ball, don't let them score, don't let them eat, eat, eat, eat, man.
41:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Go, because they can't do nothing, man.
41:15
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, just unleash the hounds on this defense.
41:18
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even hear it.
41:19
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't hear it, bro.
41:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't hear it, but I don't hear it, nobody was 17 points, 20 points, nothing.
41:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I want them to shut it down.
41:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I like, if I'm, if I'm breadless daily, I would say at most, I don't want them scoring more than 10 points in this game.
41:34
[SPEAKER_01]: At most period.
41:35
[SPEAKER_01]: At most period period.
41:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Period man, kind of has like, pride.
41:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I just hope that the team, like, in general, in totality of the team, but especially the defense, I don't have, I hope they don't have a defense of let down.
41:51
[SPEAKER_01]: where we're like in the zoom on Sunday and you're just like, you know what, we like the best of us, us, us.
41:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're like, we, we've seen it and we know with this, yes, yes.
42:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what, with this defense, they give you the, you know, they give you 10 yards.
42:07
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to give you the 10 yards clip and let you work your way down field, especially early.
42:12
[SPEAKER_02]: So it wouldn't surprise me if they,
42:15
[SPEAKER_02]: with the analysis saying, well, Brady Cook has completed, you know, eight of his last nine passes, or whatever, like I could see the game started just like that, but I'm like, going, going show some kooly, a lot to you.
42:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see, Sanker, go out there and show some man, like go out there and take advantage of this, you know, like you, you, you, this is, this is the, this is the type of offense, like you need to squeeze, you know, chase young, like chase young, amazing game this past week or another, like stack them up, another game like that.
42:52
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be nice if they would switch up the Lonte Blitz and like maybe like Blitz, you know what I'm just saying, Loren said without fasts, like he closes, like to give like the offense of a different thing.
43:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, I'm just so tired of Lonte Blitz, we're from so tired.
43:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I see it, I see it in a mile away every time it's called.
43:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It's too often, you see it go in mile away to the level.
43:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Never, I think the last time it got there,
43:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say it was against Caroline and week one, the Cardinals and week one, but it's feel like it's been forever since it's gotten there.
43:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It may have been another time, maybe they're the game that they get there.
43:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't think of who it was like okay, if you're not going to please touch me like full of time Can you get him in there running on some some little blitzes or something like that like can you do something could I see like we'll not be watching like the same's offense versus other defenses of like man all these defenses doing some crazy shit You know trying to get back can we do some of that can we do some of that
43:54
[SPEAKER_01]: get the young guys on the field um the game to me like start like defensively start as basically with you know breeze hall shutting down the run game Tony in the chat set seems like we give up one or two Mulligan drivers to start the game and then lock in yes they do and it's so annoying very annoying very annoying
44:16
[SPEAKER_01]: because as an officer, I don't know if I can't do my nerelevers.
44:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
44:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I will give Brandon say this for him to be able to make those adjustments afterwards and really kind of hone in.
44:26
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very refreshing to see.
44:28
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very refreshing to see.
44:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, we want this game to be like, I don't even want a mug and drop.
44:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, come out and shut them down.
44:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Shut them down for me.
44:37
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the states come on, like, y'all should have at least
44:44
[SPEAKER_02]: We had literally one of the worst statistical defenses in NFL history.
44:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And even that season, we had that one game against Tampa where we shut the Tampa Bay Bucks up.
44:56
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like 41 or nothing.
44:58
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's spagnolo defense.
45:01
[SPEAKER_02]: 2014 for the one in the we had the worst defense in history and we still figured out a way to I just squeeze a bad offense.
45:07
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I want.
45:08
[SPEAKER_02]: I just go ahead and take care of a bad offense I'm not saying you got to shut them out.
45:12
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know keep your timbre low man keep a low You know just keep your timbre low and let the offense get you'll be nice to have just like a low a nice game when we talking about I don't know tell me about movies or something in the full quarter
45:27
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's been we haven't had that since like the giant game and before that it was like big the Cowboy the Cowboys game last season bro Like it's been a while Well, it'd be nice to have that man But man, I'm just more interested to see some Chuck man.
45:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Like See what Chuck could do made a bit of time to suck
45:50
[SPEAKER_01]: main event uh Jack Hunter said that defense has been a been a surprise this year has been a pleasant pleasant surprise um and we're seeing come on bro show me some show me some man like well yeah
46:07
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how about the little one or two little sprinkle please in there like go ahead and make a statement a statement game like this is this is the guy this is the guy you want to see I I want to I want to game like that man was he call granted what you have bro You know help that little help that tree value a little bit clean boy Try to get a third try to get a third or second something for your bro who get a third for
46:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Big creeper, that would be a big win.
46:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Big please.
46:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a big win.
46:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my goodness.
46:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I, you know, I actually listen and I'll talk about something else I wanted to bring up to you.
46:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Do the same's win.
46:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Do they win three in a row on Sunday?
46:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they make it to the dub this week, but they didn't win them.
47:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say that they're gonna win, but I don't know how confident I am in it, just because I feel like I know that I've seen this team so much in my life that like, like it would be so things like to beat the bucks on the road, to beat the Panthers, which is almost like a playoff game for the Panthers, and then against the Jazz, and then against the Jazz, just,
47:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Just drop the just Can we only beat division rivals like It would be it would be very things like Jack asked if they just have a scrambling quarterback if not it's a dub I don't know I mean Brady cook is not a scrambler, but like Scrambler like scrambled quite a bit last weekend.
47:55
[SPEAKER_01]: They still won some so it's okay.
47:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I do it
47:58
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, oh, just keep taking my toes.
48:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Cook ran for what 39 yards.
48:04
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's me.
48:05
[SPEAKER_02]: So he could, you know, he could get a couple first downs on those, you know, I had to be annoying a little bit, but he's not going to destroy the defense and nothing like that.
48:14
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, you know, say should, say should win this game, or say should win.
48:18
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think the Jets, I don't know if the order is coming from a top, but I think
48:25
[SPEAKER_02]: not let it to tank him but just like let's let's get this let's wrap it up let's get this the season old would get on a fire he fired defensive one he didn't shoot like let me have had fire to black man and what's going on black stick in L after L
48:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, one thing I wanted to wrap this up with this episode up with 54th current viewers, 160, 8 views, appreciate y'all, uh, hit that like and subscribe.
48:57
[SPEAKER_01]: This talk that's building a bit.
49:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Potentially feasible and the draft that the Saints to draft drew my love running back to yours as a state conversation.
49:09
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know we're going to get, so it's going to, we're going to talk about, so it's obviously, then we're going to get tired talking about, but I just wanted to have that conversation about it now.
49:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Just in your general sense of how you would feel about it.
49:33
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I would, I would be good with it.
49:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I'd be overly excited, but I'd be like intrigued by it, you know what I'm saying?
49:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Cause I don't know, just me personally, and I haven't said in a studied eight games and done a deep dive, I watch a good little bit of them.
49:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not in love with them, I like them, you know what I'm saying?
50:00
[SPEAKER_02]: you want to love a guy.
50:01
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, but it's that that's not a big deal, but I don't I don't not love with him as a running bag.
50:06
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think I do think he would add a great dynamic to the offense, if he hits, if he hits.
50:16
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so I just think the whole thing's fascinating, especially when you consider it would be smiling and all that's what's talking about in a
50:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Not just for like when in the draft, but like in your building process, when you build a your team and put your team together, you know, the interior offers of light is struggling right now.
50:39
[SPEAKER_02]: It's struggling to run the ball, but then if you're going to draft or run a big
50:44
[SPEAKER_02]: With this kind of offensive line, you will want somebody that's really creative, you know, really kind of sifty and maneuvering, you know, make guys miss in the backfield and stuff like that.
50:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he's that type of guy, but at the same time when you drafted, you got your after just for not you drafting for the next four or five years.
51:02
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're assuming that you're going to improve this interior line.
51:06
[SPEAKER_02]: It might improve the interior line, just a free agency.
51:08
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, that shouldn't then preclude them from going to get a guy with fans, dynamic, he could play all, like those things I was thinking about that, put me on the other side, I was like, man, you can love, you got, you know, yeah, he came, you know, he towards the end, but you could hate kid in there and definitely, you know, that's not a bad, you got three running backs, they could play all three downs, pass, protect, catch, run the ball,
51:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And they pay the sex bill because I don't know, bro.
51:35
[SPEAKER_02]: He will.
51:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
51:37
[SPEAKER_02]: He's in it.
51:38
[SPEAKER_02]: He'll get at least identify who the fresh tech.
51:41
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
51:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
51:43
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm just saying you got three, three dollars.
51:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
51:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Catch and run the ball.
51:47
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I'm saying?
51:47
[SPEAKER_02]: So that right there predicts.
51:50
[SPEAKER_02]: presents an issue to defenses, you know, I'm saying because they don't know what you're doing when you line up, so like this, it's intriguing, but like it's intriguing thought to think about, but it is, ooh, it's like, man, like, did you think about like, you know, what the rate is going through with, um, actually, what's his name?
52:10
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's your chitty, it's great.
52:12
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're just going to have your brother in the walls, and shit like we're going to deal with that, you know?
52:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know man, it's funny because I won't have going back and forth about it, but
52:24
[SPEAKER_01]: As someone and both of us have been saying that the team has needed to invest in Jews for so long.
52:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I wouldn't hate it because it's just, Jeremiah love is unequivocally juice.
52:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yes, juice.
52:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Our due call in a discord, you know, made the point of like, you know, the two screens that Kellen had called to estimate at the, you know, who was in, he's like, imagine.
52:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking, you take it at home.
52:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's a house call, bro.
52:52
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a house call.
52:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think Wesley kind of said it best in the chat just now he and he said I'd feel better taking love if they address guard and for agency I agree a hundred percent agree like a danger if they went and got my dov and Van Lannon from the jigs And got um grandson to tighten from the equals black and tight in how call grants and right Yeah, yeah
53:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Then I'm like, okay, we got to live with worries another year.
53:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, whatever, okay, there you go, get love, okay, you might have something, not you might have something.
53:34
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, not just running the ball, but like we talk about catching, we desperately need a guy who could catch a six-yard, swing the ass or whatever, and just take it.
53:46
[SPEAKER_02]: We desperately need that.
53:47
[SPEAKER_02]: He can do that.
53:48
[SPEAKER_02]: He can do that.
53:53
[SPEAKER_02]: So like you could talk me into a garage sort of saying like I could come up on either side of it if you talk to me a certain way So I don't know they just got to do it if they do it.
54:04
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna be all in All in work.
54:07
[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny because I already have it's it's crazy I already have like my mini cloud like you know if we we did our prospect the week episode's last or for this past draft and Those are Patreon only we did our we updated our cloud each each time we talked about a prospect
54:22
[SPEAKER_01]: But my cloud like this draft is pretty simple to like, you really think about this draft is pretty simple.
54:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say my cloud right now and it'll be interesting to see if it changes when we start like doing like the all 22 looks of these prospects.
54:37
[SPEAKER_01]: My cloud right now is Avaro Reese who's not gonna be there.
54:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb Downs, Carnotate, also fuck Ohio State.
54:46
[SPEAKER_01]: How insane is that?
54:47
[SPEAKER_01]: That the three first players in my cloud are Ohio State players.
54:53
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a five first round of this risk today.
54:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So I left out of Carnotate.
55:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Fourth would be Jordan Tyson.
55:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like he has the ability to be a Rye receiver one.
55:07
[SPEAKER_01]: The Metacles, the injuries would worry me,
55:12
[SPEAKER_01]: hope it worked out.
55:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And fifth, I would say fifth right now for me would probably be Jeremiah love.
55:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, hard to argue against it.
55:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Just from the caliber of player yes, because you know, you get like, oh, this is a good player.
55:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, the man is not like, you don't have to question that.
55:32
[SPEAKER_02]: You, you, you might question what's around him.
55:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Will he be able to succeed early and all that stuff, but as far as the talent
55:40
[SPEAKER_02]: You really don't have to question that, like, you know what I'm saying?
55:43
[SPEAKER_02]: Seems like a dude could hit on his shoulders and really, really physically and athletic utility.
55:49
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's gonna be interesting.
55:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody to this quote, copped up to the Markle Murray, I thought that was perfect.
55:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, damn, I looked at the, like, height and weight exactly the same.
56:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Both high-cut runners, yep, they are.
56:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Marco, and Marco could, to break one off when he played Kyle always except, yeah, he got that.
56:08
[SPEAKER_01]: 1800-yard season with them.
56:11
[SPEAKER_01]: That Kyle boys, O'Line was, was Stutley, though, like, that's when he broke up.
56:15
[SPEAKER_02]: When he had that, that's when the, that's when the, you know, Tyron Smith, and it just drafted a, was the sitting name, a guard, a, Frederick, Frederick.
56:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Frederick.
56:26
[SPEAKER_02]: Dad, they had a lot of friends of mine, bro.
56:30
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, since got a piece of two wins, we're ways from that go with ways of winning from that.
56:38
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you know, you could be, you know, you could be building that for the future though, you know, so it could be.
56:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Last thing I'll hit this last question in the chat, Justin Cash asked, thoughts on Chris Bell or Tate.
56:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, like,
56:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Broke, just imagine this, all right, just imagine this.
56:58
[SPEAKER_01]: If they drafted a car notate in round one, and let's say in round two, they drafted off of the car.
57:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I got just to say they didn't round two.
57:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But let's say in round three, they came back and drafted Chris Bell, who may have fallen in the draft, may have fallen in the draft because his turn ACL, tell me they could get a Chris Bell and car notate in the same draft.
57:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't even care about the garden around too, bro.
57:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck, like, yay, whatever.
57:29
[SPEAKER_01]: A static would be a static.
57:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Extending.
57:32
[SPEAKER_02]: I know he blew his ACL.
57:34
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if there's any other like damage to it, but like, man, ACLs ain't shit in the world.
57:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, especially you young, young player.
57:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I heard that if all goes well with the surgery, his recovery, that he should be either returning or closer returning around October or November of next year, give me, give me, give me, give me, give me, I wouldn't even be worrying about, not even worrying about next year like that.
58:02
[SPEAKER_02]: But come 2027, we've ready to go.
58:05
[SPEAKER_02]: We are ready to fly.
58:07
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think you'd be ready to go 2026, bro.
58:10
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just close the middle of the season.
58:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So now I would still take risk, bro.
58:15
[SPEAKER_02]: I just love it as a player.
58:16
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think the, I don't think DCL is gonna be a big deal at 10 to the day.
58:21
[SPEAKER_02]: But you give me 10, I'm a big take fan, bro.
58:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Like every time I watch them, I think you was just a little underutilized at Ohio just because he's playing up a sit.
58:31
[SPEAKER_02]: a legit NFL, why receive a one, like just a why receive a one right now, like he's already a generational right receiver prospect, which is great because they create, they come few in front between.
58:45
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
58:46
[SPEAKER_02]: So, like his production was good, but you know, some people could look at it but like, well, why wasn't this in there?
58:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think he had good hands, why was he for birth?
58:55
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just love him on a team.
58:57
[SPEAKER_02]: You go, are you like, ah, do you want to take him at 7 in blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
59:01
[SPEAKER_02]: In this draft, it's like, you just got to get the good place where you can't bear it.
59:05
[SPEAKER_02]: Because this draft is just, this draft is not like doesn't have like 10, 12 blue chip players at the top.
59:12
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like just a very few.
59:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So just go and get some blue.
59:15
[SPEAKER_02]: You're good players where you can't.
59:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
59:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the thing is it's funny.
59:23
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked.
59:23
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about the draft all all this year.
59:26
[SPEAKER_01]: At the same time, when on Sunday,
59:29
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they're picking seventh right now.
59:30
[SPEAKER_01]: They might I don't know.
59:31
[SPEAKER_01]: They might not be like eight nine ten I don't know if I'm going to be wound up picking with the cheese like let's go up to like Yeah, it'd be hilarious if we if we like snipe during my love
59:45
[SPEAKER_01]: from them right before them.
59:47
[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be a list of any.
59:49
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