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Former Bachelor Producer Julie LaPlaca Addresses Claims, And What Her Book is REALLY About · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. We are
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  Speaker 2: here today with someone who's been in the headlines a
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  Speaker 2: lot this week. It is one of our former Bachelor producers,
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  Speaker 2: Julie LaPlaca. My babysitter called out just an hour before
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  Speaker 2: Julie arrives. So if you hear Dawson blabbering in the
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  Speaker 2: background of this podcast, now you know why.
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  Speaker 3: Hey Julie, she's here in the kitchen with me.
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  Speaker 2: Dawson is sitting here ready with tissues for her because
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  Speaker 2: it's been an emotional week. I'm sure. I mean, you've
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  Speaker 2: never had headlines like this before, and like your first
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  Speaker 2: bout with headlines right kind of controversial. Yeah, how's your week?
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  Speaker 3: Ben?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a really interesting week. How has it been? Honestly,
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  Speaker 4: I guess it's a little hurtful that you know, both
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  Speaker 4: of these men I offer to let read the book
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  Speaker 4: and both of them ghosted me and are forming their
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  Speaker 4: own opinions now without like understanding my heart and what
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  Speaker 4: I put into it. So, yeah, it's been a little interesting.
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  Speaker 4: It's really interesting to see the power of a man
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  Speaker 4: with a mic and the assumptions people formed just stuff
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  Speaker 4: of one person's words. So yeah, it's been interesting, but
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  Speaker 4: you know, he's also entitled to his opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, let's be clear, which what are we talking about now,
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  Speaker 2: Nick or Peter?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I guess I'm talking kind of putting them both
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  Speaker 4: in together.
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  Speaker 2: Both of them are offer copies of.
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  Speaker 4: The book, and both of them ended up like stopped
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  Speaker 4: responding to me, So neither of them ended up actually
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  Speaker 4: reading the book.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so I'm a little I'm a little interested
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  Speaker 2: in Ben's here too. Of course Ben's via zoom right now.
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  Speaker 2: Now she's referring to Nick viol and Peter Webber, who
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  Speaker 2: she was the producer of. We should also probably just
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  Speaker 2: backtrack a second. Julie has a new book out. It
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  Speaker 2: is called The Love Producer, and in it you entail
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  Speaker 2: about your life as aler producer before after the show,
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  Speaker 2: what led you to the show, how you separate yourself
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  Speaker 2: from the show, And the most dramatic, which is getting headlines,
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  Speaker 2: is the fact that you had a romance of sorts
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  Speaker 2: with Peter and maybe a crush, maybe more a situationship.
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  Speaker 2: That is definitely for sure. Yeah, and you're referring to
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  Speaker 2: the fact that Nick has been out there this week
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  Speaker 2: saying that you it was all very inappropriate. So let's
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  Speaker 2: get into that. Well, we'll dive into all of this,
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  Speaker 2: but Ben, I want, I want to let you have
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  Speaker 2: a moment first.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I think there's just a lot of questions.
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  Speaker 5: The book is a project of yours, Julie, that you
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  Speaker 5: came out with. I think I think we need to
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  Speaker 5: set the stage a little bit.
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  Speaker 6: Julie.
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  Speaker 5: You're a producer on The Bachelor Bachelor att for how
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  Speaker 5: many years?
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  Speaker 4: I was there for seven years? From Andy Dorfmann season
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  Speaker 4: through Matt James. I started on the date side and
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  Speaker 4: then I switched to being with the Leeds Hannah Brown season.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Julie, I think we have to have this conversation
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  Speaker 5: leading off the headlines. I actually think it will be
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  Speaker 5: help full for everybody involved. Maybe Meg Peter, I'm sure
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  Speaker 5: they're going to listen to it. Maybe you did when
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  Speaker 5: you wrote this book. They haven't read this book, so
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  Speaker 5: there is still some like hearsay, and there's still some unknowns.
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  Speaker 5: Did you expect Peter especially to be upset with the
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  Speaker 5: book once it came out and once people started talking
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  Speaker 5: about it, like was this something or you're shocked by,
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  Speaker 5: surprised by or did you expect it?
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  Speaker 6: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm not shocked. I you know, there's a reason
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  Speaker 4: why it's coming out six years later. I really had to,
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  Speaker 4: you know, after I left the show, I dealt with
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  Speaker 4: a lot of shame around what happened. I on two fronts, right,
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  Speaker 4: there was the element of feeling like I feeled like
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  Speaker 4: a producer and also feeling like it also triggered a
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  Speaker 4: lot of wounds from past men and relationships with lock
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  Speaker 4: their for that, so I really went through I mean,
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  Speaker 4: on a spiritual level, what you would call the dark
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  Speaker 4: Knight of the soul. We're actually like you know, when
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  Speaker 4: your whole like identity is stripped from you and you're
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  Speaker 4: kind of left with nothing. And so it was it
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  Speaker 4: was a really hard time for me after I left
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  Speaker 4: the show, and I had to confront a lot of
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  Speaker 4: my own like inner wounds and really who I am
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  Speaker 4: on a soul level. And yeah, I think Peter was
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  Speaker 4: probably the catalyst for me leaving something that actually no
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  Speaker 4: longer aligned with who I am and you know my
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  Speaker 4: values and so yeah, so I understand, I get it,
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  Speaker 4: and also like for me to heal and for like
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  Speaker 4: the work I'm doing now is important for me to
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  Speaker 4: share my truth. I think like, when you hold shame inside,
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  Speaker 4: it's not a great place to be. And when you
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  Speaker 4: could work through that shame and release it and speak
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  Speaker 4: it out loud, there's something really freeing about that.
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  Speaker 2: The crux of it was that you kind of realized
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  Speaker 2: that you were creating love stories for other people, and
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  Speaker 2: you were like so entrenched in those stories and producing them,
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  Speaker 2: and then you were realizing that you weren't producing your
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  Speaker 2: own love story, which is something that you desperately wanted.
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  Speaker 2: You were always like a hopeless romantic and very much
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  Speaker 2: like a me growing up with the Disney and the
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  Speaker 2: boy bands and all that stuff. We've always related on that,
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  Speaker 2: and you just imagined that great romance for yourself and
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  Speaker 2: then you're like, oh my gosh, I'm like mid thirties
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not having this at all.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really hard when you, yeah, when you're giving
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  Speaker 4: your whole life to other people's love stories. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: I was sitting there asking these deep, vulnerable questions to
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  Speaker 4: cast members, and I realized I never like turned the
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  Speaker 4: lens inward on myself. You get, I mean, so many
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  Speaker 4: people get in sort of this like hypnotic state in
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  Speaker 4: life and you just go, go, go, go go, and
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  Speaker 4: suddenly it's like it's actually when COVID when we were
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  Speaker 4: forced to kind of pause, and it forced me to
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  Speaker 4: finally like sit in my own thoughts and reflect on
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  Speaker 4: who I am and what I want out of life.
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  Speaker 4: And it was like, yeah, I've been I have been
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  Speaker 4: neglecting my own heart. So I had I had to
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  Speaker 4: leave to reconnect with that.
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  Speaker 6: The book is out and obviously the headlines this week.
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  Speaker 6: I believe Nick I don't.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to put words in his mouth, but
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  Speaker 5: I think he said on his show that this was grooming.
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  Speaker 5: What like that you're writing a book about the experience,
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  Speaker 5: But really what the story is is it's it would
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  Speaker 5: be defined by grooming because you were working for a show,
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  Speaker 5: you were a lead producer. Peter was you know, susceptible
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  Speaker 5: because he was open to love at the time. Do
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  Speaker 5: you viewed as grooming and if not, why not? And
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  Speaker 5: if so, how do you feel about that being defined
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  Speaker 5: as you know, this experience?
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  Speaker 4: Uh No, I don't believe I was grooming Peter. In fact,
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  Speaker 4: when we were filming, like nothing happened and I was
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  Speaker 4: when we were filming and I was his producer. I
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  Speaker 4: am very much focused in my job and the role,
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  Speaker 4: and I cared about Peter. I saw him as a
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  Speaker 4: really nice, nice guy, and I, you know, compared coming
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  Speaker 4: off of a season where I had a hard time
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  Speaker 4: with the lead, Peter was just like it felt like family,
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  Speaker 4: felt like best friends. And even my chapter, in my
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  Speaker 4: chapter about the season, that's all very reflective looking back now,
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  Speaker 4: where I realized, oh, there are these moments where why
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  Speaker 4: did that upset me? When he you know, when he
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  Speaker 4: got upset with me, Why did that affect me so much?
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  Speaker 4: I should be glad he wanted time away from me,
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  Speaker 4: even like the moments like actually during the season is
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  Speaker 4: more reflective looking back, But when we were in the season,
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  Speaker 4: when we were filming, I was very much in producer mode. Now,
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  Speaker 4: of course, you know, part of her job is to
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  Speaker 4: get close with them, and for me, I think I can't.
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  Speaker 4: I can't fake Like I realized, I'm not like a
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  Speaker 4: person who could like fake connection and so but with
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  Speaker 4: him it became very easy because we connected really well.
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  Speaker 4: But I'd be curious your thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: You are a former lead too, so you can speak
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  Speaker 2: to it from similar perspective as Nick.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I guess I could.
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  Speaker 5: I think one clarifying thing that needs to be spoken
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  Speaker 5: about here is this whole book is not to tell
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  Speaker 5: all about your relationship with Peter, just to be clear.
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  Speaker 5: And I think that's right now kind of without reading it,
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  Speaker 5: the narrative that would be assumed would be, hey, this
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  Speaker 5: is twenty two chapters on a romantic relationship with the
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  Speaker 5: lead from the show. That is not the case, and so,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I do think that would be an important
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  Speaker 5: to kind of give a picture of what exactly is
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  Speaker 5: being talked about in the book, why is the book
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  Speaker 5: coming out, and those things. It is a lot of
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  Speaker 5: your journey to healing, you know, getting back out into
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  Speaker 5: the world feeling prepared. You know, Ashley knows this, and
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  Speaker 5: I think some would disagree and some would agree. I'm
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  Speaker 5: sure there'd be people out there that can make a
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  Speaker 5: strong argument that nobody in a leadership role of somebody else,
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  Speaker 5: you know, that does leave some susceptible to this. I'm
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  Speaker 5: also in the just I think maybe just where I'm
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  Speaker 5: from is as an adult, you make your own decisions,
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  Speaker 5: and I do think this can get messy, The lines
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  Speaker 5: can get blurred in this environment. I think it was
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  Speaker 5: an unfortunate scenario, is how I would say. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think grooming would be. I think that's like a very
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  Speaker 5: like that'd be like going on the far end of it,
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  Speaker 5: being like, hey, you were prepping and planning the whole
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  Speaker 5: time to someday, you know, make him fall in love
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  Speaker 5: with you, and all these things that you were doing
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  Speaker 5: along the bachelor journey where to lead him away from
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  Speaker 5: all the women that were there.
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  Speaker 6: I don't believe that to be the case. I know you.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think that's some like big scheme that you
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  Speaker 5: had and some brilliant, you know, idea. But I can
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  Speaker 5: see where this could be viewed, or at least if
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  Speaker 5: I was in your position and maybe in Peter's position,
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  Speaker 5: where I'd say this was an unfortunate scenario that happened
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  Speaker 5: in an environment that we were both pulling everything we
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  Speaker 5: could to fall in love during and as a result,
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  Speaker 5: I would say, yeah, I was a mistake. So I
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  Speaker 5: guess that would be my question back is today, as
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  Speaker 5: you sit there, do you see this as a mistake
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  Speaker 5: and do you think Peter sees it as a mistake?
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  Speaker 6: You know, kind of where it got to with you too?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like to think anything's a mistake because
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  Speaker 4: I now from a higher perspective, understand why it happened.
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  Speaker 4: And it really was to push me out of a
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  Speaker 4: show that no longer aligned with who I was, and
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  Speaker 4: really was the catalyst for me to like understand my
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  Speaker 4: wounds and my triggers with men. So I'm actually now
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  Speaker 4: like grateful it happened.
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  Speaker 2: Was it right?
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  Speaker 4: No, I understand it wasn't like right from you know,
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  Speaker 4: from you know, a professional standpoint. Yeah, that's why I left.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I dealt with a lot of shame. That's
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  Speaker 4: why I like stayed hidden for years. Quite literally, I
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  Speaker 4: had to like do a lot of healing. So it was,
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  Speaker 4: it was, it was really difficult. But I don't think
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  Speaker 4: anything's a mistake. I think I was actually divinely guided.
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  Speaker 4: I think, you know, my book's about my journey for love,
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  Speaker 4: but on a deeper journey. It was a spiritual journey
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  Speaker 4: back to my connection with God and like the unconditional
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  Speaker 4: love that is available to us all. And so I'm
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  Speaker 4: super grateful for what people may call a mistake because
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  Speaker 4: it's what led me here. Now, you know, you talk
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  Speaker 4: about the environment we're in and again, I didn't even
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  Speaker 4: admit to myself I was actually developing feelings until after
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  Speaker 4: the first round of headlines came out right all of
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  Speaker 4: a sudden.
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  Speaker 2: The headlines during your season when you're there on New
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  Speaker 2: Year's Eve with him and people are like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: they look cute and flirty.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So, you know, timeline wise, when we were filming
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  Speaker 4: full producer mode, no actual thoughts of like, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 4: falling for this guy. It was more again and reflective
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  Speaker 4: as I was looking back about these moments. But then
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  Speaker 4: you know, he broke up with Hannah Anne and January
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  Speaker 4: and the show's airing on TV, and then suddenly a
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  Speaker 4: Reddit theory took off like wildfire that he was with
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  Speaker 4: me the time. Nothing had happened at all, but we
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  Speaker 4: got along really well, our families had met, they loved
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  Speaker 4: each other. Suddenly Barb was praying for us to end
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  Speaker 4: up together. My dad says, Julie, I've never seen you
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  Speaker 4: this way with a man. And then seemingly the whole
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  Speaker 4: world was like actually like rooting for us to end
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  Speaker 4: up together. And so here I am, the hopeless romantic
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  Speaker 4: who's always dreamed of this fairy tale ending, and all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden, this seemingly the entire world is like
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  Speaker 4: rooting for that fairy tale rom com ending. And then
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  Speaker 4: you know, there was this moment where I almost you know,
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  Speaker 4: Cinderella story became the Bachelorette, and so all these things
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  Speaker 4: were going on in my mind. Yeah, of course I
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  Speaker 4: got caught up in the stories we've been fed in
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  Speaker 4: condition to want and desire in life as women, growing
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  Speaker 4: up on these rom coms, growing up watching The Bachelor.
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  Speaker 4: There's a reason I went for this job, like I love,
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  Speaker 4: you know, reading these rom com stories, and so so yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I got I got caught up in the fairy tale
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  Speaker 4: I created, and I was trying to understand whether I
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  Speaker 4: actually felt something or if I had gotten mixed up
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  Speaker 4: with you know, the stories I created for a living.
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  Speaker 4: So it became a real difficult, confusing time for me.
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  Speaker 6: And I don't I don't I get it. I mean
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  Speaker 6: I do, Julie.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's why when I read the book, well One,
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  Speaker 5: I think all of the steps in life, the good,
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  Speaker 5: the bads, the things that keep us up at night,
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  Speaker 5: have this a beautiful ability to pull us back to
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  Speaker 5: a creator that calls us to love.
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  Speaker 6: And I think that's when I read your book.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, that's the story of my life, and I
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  Speaker 5: think the story of everybody's life. And I think it's
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  Speaker 5: wonderful when you can put it on paper and you
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  Speaker 5: can tell the story clearly and you can pull back,
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  Speaker 5: you know, some of the things. I mean in my book,
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  Speaker 5: I read about my time stealing you know, painkillers too
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  Speaker 5: from people I love, just to you know, have a fix,
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  Speaker 5: and how that led me back to God. Like all
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  Speaker 5: these things right, And that's why I'm cautious here. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not picking sides. I'm cautious to define this with these
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  Speaker 5: like large terms that have deep impact in real people's lives.
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  Speaker 5: Like we're like, you're talking about people that have gone
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  Speaker 5: through workplace environments that are unhealthy and their bosses have
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  Speaker 5: pressure or push them. Like, I don't want this to
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  Speaker 5: be defined by that. It's not that, And so we
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  Speaker 5: need to protect those definitions so that when they are said,
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  Speaker 5: we go, Okay, that is this, and this is this
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  Speaker 5: When you ask me what I think, I with And
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  Speaker 5: that's why I said, I think some people will disagree
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  Speaker 5: with me. I can see how this happens. It does
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  Speaker 5: you were closer in age to the leads of really
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  Speaker 5: any producer I had, you know, you were close in
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  Speaker 5: age to any lead. And then even during my season,
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  Speaker 5: I don't know how familiar with this, there were issues
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  Speaker 5: with some of the women on my cast, like having
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  Speaker 5: crushes on the producers that existed in their lives and
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  Speaker 5: they had to like fix that, being like, hey, refocus,
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  Speaker 5: that's not your guy.
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  Speaker 2: We all talked about this behind the scenes and being like,
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  Speaker 2: do I have more feelings for so and so than
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  Speaker 2: Chris because you are connecting so deeply with them, You're
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  Speaker 2: talking all the time, and then when you're in the
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  Speaker 2: confessional room, it just feels like you're on almost a
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  Speaker 2: date about deep feelings. Yeah, well, now putting words out there,
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean like you feel like you're on a date,
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  Speaker 2: but you're being You're having very intimate conversations.
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  Speaker 5: So I think if you're on the show, I sit
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  Speaker 5: it here and I'm going, oh, we were like maybe
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  Speaker 5: two steps away from this happening probably hundreds of times
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  Speaker 5: in the course of this franchise where lines would be crossed,
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  Speaker 5: And I do think it's an important note to say, hey,
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  Speaker 5: this your romantic relationship with Peter happened show while you
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  Speaker 5: know you were still hanging out. You were two adults
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  Speaker 5: who were, you know, hanging out together. There was no
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  Speaker 5: show going on, and you found this connection. And I
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  Speaker 5: think that's a whole different deal. Like I wouldn't want
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  Speaker 5: to be as an adult told hey, I can't date
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  Speaker 5: this producer that I once like was around, you know,
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  Speaker 5: five years later, Like they're off limits because at one
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  Speaker 5: point in my life they were a producer on the show.
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  Speaker 6: That seems crazy to me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thank you.
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  Speaker 6: Am I making sense or am I just being k Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Of course you're making sense. This is like such a confidence.
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  Speaker 2: This is like a such a weird thing to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: I'm friends with you, I'm friends with Nick. I'm probably
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  Speaker 2: not close to Peter, but I've always enjoyed our chats
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  Speaker 2: whenever he comes on. I always think he's the nicest guy.
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  Speaker 2: And when I just have to say, as a reader
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  Speaker 2: and as somebody who was on the show, and as
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  Speaker 2: somebody who is friendly with everyone involved, I read it
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  Speaker 2: very innocently and I feel like most people pe well
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  Speaker 2: would of course, do I understand Peter's annoyances that like
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  Speaker 2: your relationship is out there for the world to read totally,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: But I enjoyed reading it like it was a rom com.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: It really did feel like it. It didn't feel any
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: it didn't feel dirty. It really doesn't. And I don't
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: even think I think that if you were to read it,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I still understand the component of like, he wouldn't like it,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: you know, like to have that stuff out there. But
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: he doesn't look bad. He's still like it emphasized to
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: me that he's still like a very sweet, good human being.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: And you just you guys just liked each other. There
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: was a special there was a special connection, and I
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: don't feel like I don't really even feel like there
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: was much inappropriate behavior since I mean, of course the
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: timing wasn't great. If you guys had hooked up years later,
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: then I don't think it would have been a problem
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: at all. Uh you got I mean, do you want
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: to get into details about when you ended up sleeping together? Sure,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: we don't have to. It's in the book, you guys
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: can It wasn't during the filming of the season. There
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: was nothing to me in the book that seems like
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: anything inappropriate happened during the filming of the season. Peter
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: did comment this week on social media, saying that there
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: was a moment where you guys were filming his last
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: one on one with Hannah Ann and you said something
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: along the lines of You're gonna look like an idiot
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: if you get this girl a rose. Do you want
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: to first respond to that? Because that was his big
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: release this week was just this one Instagram comment where
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: he said, like, I really wish that this would kept private.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I really told her how much would mean to me
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: if we kept this private. And then he insinuated that
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: things crossed the line when you made that comment about
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Hannah Ann the midst of the season.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Listen, not my proudest producing moment. And you know, again,
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes that
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: I'm not able to talk about, and influences above me
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: that are going on that I unfortunately, again this is
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: probably all toimate. Also what led me to leave the
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: shows is you know, yeah, I sometimes I'm directed to
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: do certain things and I can't I can't control that.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: But I mean, let me also say that when I
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: went to Peter's book launch event, he said to me, Julie,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: you and I should write a book together. So like
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: for and maybe it was just maybe he was joking around,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but for him to say he's made
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: multiple attempts. He actually we had one conversation. He threatened
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: to sue. I said, no problem, I'll connect you with
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: our lawyer. I send him the lawyer information. This was
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: months ago, which I didn't have to tell him about
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: the book, but I did because I wanted to. And
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: then I the lawyer never heard from him, and when
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: we were doing final edits in January, they said, hey,
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: we rather troubleshoot anything now. If you could reach out
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: to him and have him reach out to us, that'd
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: be great. I reached out to him again, say hey,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: if you want to get in touch with our lawyer,
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: like and he just never responded to me, so to say,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: you made like multiple attempts. But also like, by the way,
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to be silenced by a man like
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: this isn't again, this story isn't about Peter. It's about
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: my journey, my journey for love, my healing journey. And
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: you know, I can't deny the fact that Peter was
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: a big part of it, because he really was. I'm
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: super grateful for him because he really was the person
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: who catapulted me to leaving the show, to going on
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: my healing journey to finding you know, a purpose that's
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: more aligned with who I am as a person. So
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: I'm grateful for him in that regard.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you an awkward question. I'm so sorry,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: I just have to ask it. It's blunt, But do
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: you think that you would have gotten the book deal
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: if it weren't for you telling the Peter story?
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Oh? Probably not?
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: No, Yeah, I mean it definitely, you know, causes a shakeup,
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Like I think the Peter thing, I think, if I'm honest,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: I really just I'm like, hey, people just need to
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: read the book because, like you said, Ashley, you said
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: it well, and I'll emphasize it doesn't make Peter.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: Look bad, still looks like a nice guy.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: It is a part of your story, Julie, and it
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: was a big, you know, pivot point in your life
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: to where you left the show because of this romantic relationship.
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: It is not.
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: A tell all book about your escapades together in whatever capacity.
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: It is a story of your journey through life, and
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: I think many can relate to it, right, A relationship
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: of many kind causing sadness and then revelation and then
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: you know, moving forward. I think would be the better
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: way to explain this.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: Obviously.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: The Peter stuff, though, is such a highlight because it
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: is shocking. It makes headlines, and I can agree with
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: Peter that I would probably be shaken in my right
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: now if I haven't read this, Like I'd be really scared, upset, mad,
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: angry that this, you know, moment, private moment is now
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: becoming public, and I'd be like, this is not good,
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: This is not a good thing. But I do want
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: to emphasize that this book is not a tell all
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: about Peter Webber.
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: It's not, and so we have to look past that.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: But I'm glad, I mean, I think honesty is going
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: to be the best way to go walk through this
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: until it's released. I'm glad that you can say, yeah,
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: you don't get the book deal without this story, but
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: it's a real story to you, Julie. This story is
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: impactful to you. And so if you were to write
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: a book just for your own personal library, nobody would
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: ever read it, this story would still be included.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: I'm assuming, Oh, yeah, of course it's you know, it
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: created a big shift in my in my life. And
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: you know, for you guys, you have like one headline
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: and then another and then another another. For me, this
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: basically is, you know, in twenty twenty, when those headlines
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: came out, then that followed me. So every first date
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: started with a giant lie because guys would ask me
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: about this, and I again was still dealing with a
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: lot of like shame and pain around it that you know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: you start off all these like relationships and conversations with
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: a giant lie. And sure I could have like gone
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: and just done like one interview to free myself of
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: that shame and pain, like with a People magazine interview. Sure,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: but to me, again, it's not just about that. And which,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: by the way, like also after the headlines came out,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: Peter like kept connecting me with different podcasts hosts that
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: want to interview me about the headlines, which I found
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: very strange because I wouldn't go on something like that
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: and lie. I'm just not someone who typically lies. I'm
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: a very honest, truthful person, and so to be carrying
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: around this lie was.
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: Like really.
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: Really hard for me and really painful for me. And
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: going back into the work event, work environment, you know,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I did, I felt like I had the scarlet letter
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: on my back and like it's just not a good
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: place to live. It's not a good Yeah, it's hard
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: when you when when you kind of just so it
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: really is what led me to leaving the show. And
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: again like, yeah, it was a dark time for me.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: It was.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: It was hard. I truly feel like you loved him
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: so much. Is he still like the big of your life?
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Do you feel, Peter?
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: No, you don't know.
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: Okay, No, I'm guessing that's a reference to something. I
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: what is that?
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Sex and the City, Sex and the City Big?
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, well, I think like, for example, yeah, carry ended
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: up with Big the big of your life, and it's
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: interesting because that's what we grew up seeing, right, But
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: I also see now why Big was.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Horrible for her. But I don't think Peter was ever
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: horrible for you. And I also just want to make
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: it clear it was very much a two sided thing.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Even though you were far more vocal about your feelings
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: towards him, he had feelings for you. It's definitely clear,
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: and you guys had such a strong friendship. It wasn't
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: just the hook up, like this isn't just an I
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: think it felt it felt pretty pure to me.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: I mean I think so, I don't think I'm you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: everyone's calling me a delusional right, and it was just like.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: There wasn't coercing or anything. It was like you guys
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: both were into each other. You were probably into him more.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even know. I think like for a
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: long time I was actually in full denial, like right,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: and then after things happened, then I started to admit
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: and understand sort of you know, why these understand like, oh,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: maybe there is something more there. And then you know,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: even our parents coming together and being like, why aren't
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: you you know, I mean, my dad recalls when we
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: like went to the Weber's house and we were all
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: sitting there, this was before anything had happened, and the
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Webers saying, you know, we would give our full blessing
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: for you two to end up together, and you know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: and I just sitting there awkwardly. So it's like an
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: interesting thing when you're getting it from everyone, you know.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: And then yeah, I'm always wanting to suppress my feelings
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: and I never admit to liking a guy. And actually
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: my journey was about like finding my voice and actually
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: being vulnerable and being open to like sharing with him
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: how i'd actually felt during this time, because because I've
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: always just stayed close off from sharing my truth with men.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: So I that's you know, as you read in the Journey,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: is me finally like practicing what I preached on the
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: show and like actually sharing it for myself and sharing
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: my truth.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Julie, Obviously we've spent a lot of time talking about
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: the Peter stuff.
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: The reason you wrote this book in the first place
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: was to.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Step beyond Peter in that time in your life and
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: to move to something greater. You describe it as a
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: spiritual journey to finding healing through a God that loves.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: Can you elaborate on that a little.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: Bit, Yeah, thank you for asking. You know, when I
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: first left the show and I didn't know what I
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: was doing, I started studying hypnotherapy and the subconscious mind
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: and learning more about sort of you know, how we're
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: conditioned and we repeat these patterns of the past. But
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: then from that that was sort of the launch of
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: me finally like doing my inner work, and I studied
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: a number of healing modalities, energy healing, tapping, and intuitive development,
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: and through it I started to like I had some
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: like really like mystical experiences and.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Past life, the story of your past life and how
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: you think you were murdered in it. This is all
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: stuff you guys could read in the book.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty powerful, and we had to pull
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: back on some of the wu stuff surprisingly. Okay, I
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: like to say, I'm just trying to do one woo
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: of the woo woo. But to me, like, you know,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: there's so much in this like three D world of
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: like go go, go, go go. But actually, like when
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: you're able to tap into this vessel of unconditional love
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: that's around us, God, our angels, our spirit guides, they
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: are there wanting to help us, and and people just
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: aren't like open to receiving that guidance and that help.
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: And on my journey I started to tap into that.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: I think working in Hollywood, I kind of lost touch
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: with God and my connection with God. You know, I
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: grew up, I grew up very involved in my church
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: and and yeah, I guess just being around a lot
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: of like atheists and things, it was it was, Yeah,
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: I pulled away from that connection. But on this journey
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: I reconnected with it. And now, like my connection with
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: God is so beautiful. I mean, I'm a feeler. I
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: could actually like feel things now like I mean, if
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I it's gonna sound crazy, but like if I call
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: on my angels, I feel them, like I literally feel
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: them hugging me. It's become it's really really powerful. It's
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: super healing.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: And I believe we all.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Have a spiritual team that's here to like help guide us,
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: and angels that are here to help guide us. And
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: when you ask for their help and you ask for
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: their guidance, they're going to and you're open to the
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: signs from the universe and the messages they're giving you,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: they're going to guide you exactly down the path you're
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: supposed to go.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I believe I was actually.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Divinely guide it on all this I was trying to
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: hide my story behind fiction, and I kept getting messages
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: from strangers, intuitives, from meditating, from praying that I really
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: need to share my truth and it was important. It
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: was an important part of like what I want to
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: do now. We're working with women and helping women rewrite
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: their stories, going forward, shedding their shame and actually connecting
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: with the heart space. And I think when you lead
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: from your heart space and you and you lead with
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: the guidance from that unconditional love, God, the universe, whatever
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: you want to call it. Then you're going to be
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: a guide exactly where you're supposed to go.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Julie, do you have a name for this God? Like,
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: is there a tradition that you most relate with right now?
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good question to me.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: You know, there's a really great book I read called
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Soulboom by Rain Wilson from the Office, and he really
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: looks at all the different religions and breaks them down
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: and ultimately shows how they're all kind of have the same,
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: like ten values and the same messaging. And so for me,
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: I mean, I grew up Christian I love Christianity, but
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I've also tapped into Buddhism and meditating and kabbala, So
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: I've tapped into them all and I think they're all
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: beautiful and I personally believe that they all share a
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: similar message. And it's hard, like, you know, you look
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: at religion and how it's caused so much war in
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: the world and like you know, and fights and like that,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: and actually, like all these religions are to me ultimately
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: saying the same message of you know, loving my neighbor,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: come from a place of love, and everything you do
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: and the community aspect, I think is really important, and
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: it's sad because I feel like we've gotten to a
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: place where we've become a bit of a godless society
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: and there's a lot of separation, and there's there's something
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: important about all coming together and believing it's something more
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: powerful than us. And to me, I don't care if
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: you call it, you know, God, the universe, Santa Claus, whatever,
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: is going to help you accelerate and extend to your
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: highest potential during this life. To me, like this lifetime
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: is a journey for love. We're all in a journey
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: for love and each moment is to help you connect
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: to it and accelerate to get to that point of
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: being a vessel of unconditional love in this world. So
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: that's the messaging I want to go with.
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: Now. I have a show on iHeart called can You
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: Hear Me?
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's it's all about this. It's a Christian
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: show that brings on people to discuss exactly what you're
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: talking about. I think you'd be a great guests to
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: not talk about Peter Weber on that this is more
• 32:11
  Speaker 5: of that.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Arena, yeah, and the honor to gone.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, dive into all the the goodness and all the things.
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: That are happening.
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's really when you when you start
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: to surrender to a higher power, your life becomes tremendously
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: more powerful.
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: I think, you know, yeah, we're not the greatest things
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: out there.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: I fully believe there's a God that loves and cares
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: and want system that we have a freedom and joy
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: in that. Julie, The Love Producers out July seventh. Uh,
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: it's obviously been enclosing here a wild week, wild few
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: months years as you wrote this book. But the final
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: question I have for you is after the week of headlines,
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: the week of it getting I mean goodness, more promotion
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: than I could ever pay for.
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: If people call me a predator, how do you feel?
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: How are you? How are you doing?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was definitely an interesting week. But again, like
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: you said, you know, no press is bad press. I
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: hope when people actually read it they see my heart
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: and and that it's all coming from a place of love.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: And I hope if I can inspire one woman to like,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: you know, not be afraid to share a voice, make
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: the changes that are necessary for her to like fully embody.
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: I like to say that leading lady energy and step
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: into the like their authentic self and it'll all be
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: worth it.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: So so I'm grateful for it all.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: I trust in the divine plan of what's unfolding for me,
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: and I just want to continue stepping forward and and
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: helping other women on their journeys. So I'm just going
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: to stay focused on that again.
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: The Love Producers out July seventh. Wherever you can buy books, I'm.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Assuming, yeah, yeah, all the all the all the book sites.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: I always love to encourage calling your local bookstore and
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: supporting people.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: So yeah, thank you.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: I really appreciate you guys having me on and having
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: this conversation.
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: Of course, I'm going to pass it off. This is
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: part of the plan. You and Ashley can continue to
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: dive into all the things that she wants to talk
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: about when it comes to life the Bachelor book, and
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: I'm going to give you guys the space to do that.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: I know you have a big event coming up this afternoon,
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: also at Audrey's coffee shop. Make sure you're generous coffee there.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: But this is where I'm going to say goodbye to you, Julie,
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: best of luck.
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: With the book launch. You and Ashley can take it away.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: And welcome to the world of headlines.
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: They're a ton of fun.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got tame.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you my favorite headline amongst all the
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: click bait, when this contestant played the clock gape on
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: prices l like a pro.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: That's so true.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: That mixed in there about on my fortieth birthday when
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: I went and crushed it on the prices right.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: That's right.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: I forgot about that one. That's amazing.
• 35:21
  Speaker 7: It was your like life goal, my life goal child
• 35:27
  Speaker 7: was thriving for that one. Amazing. I want to talk
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: before we talk more about Peter. I'm so sorry. Are
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: you so tired of this?
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Are you so scared every time somebody asked you a question? Yeah,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: it's it's.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: It's you know, one of the foreign agreement agreements is
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: be impeccable with your words. I'm trying to be very
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: mindful about, uh, what I say. And also it's interesting
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: because the journey was to like shed the past and yeah,
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: like of course, naturally that's what people are most interested in,
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: and I get it. So it's it's been a good
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: practice for me to see how I could stay grounded
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: in and all.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a good pop culture book in general,
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: even if you're not a huge bachelor Frian. Even if
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: you didn't watch Peter season, You're gonna enjoy it. It's
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: about a millennial girl that was like pinnacle millennial. Like
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: you talk about in sync at the VMA's you had
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: what was the moment like they all said hi to you.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: You like got a picture with.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: That in the NA I manifested take us to the
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: van Ba exactly. I just I have like a supermom
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: who have still have a supermom who? I was like,
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: can we just drive to New York City? This was
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: my mom too, to try to get a glimpse of
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: in sync at the MTV Video Music Whorts on nine
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: nine ninety nine, and she's like, sure.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Let's go. I remember the promos for nine nine nine.
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: And then so we drive herd me and my friend Olivia,
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: and then I find out where people with tickets are
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, okay, let's go, let's go try to
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: get a ticket. So we go and I pushed my
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: way to the front of the barricades and everyone's walking
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: by their tickets and I'm just like, can I.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Have your ticket? Can I have your ticket?
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: And then this lady stopped and she like talked to
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: the cop and she handed him an envelope and she
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: pointed at me, and then she continued on and the
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: cop comes up and he goes, well, you just won
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: the golden ticket. This lady wanted me to give you
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: this ticket here, No way. I nearly fainted. And this
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: is before I had cell phones. I ditched my my
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: mom and set.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: My gosh, your mom been so scared just to let
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: you go in your You're like for your.
• 37:39
  Speaker 7: Nine years old.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: So I was like fourteen, okay, yeah, right, yeah, fourteen,
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: I'm forty one okay yeaheah, And and I and I
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: made my way to the red carpet. I actually found
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: the people who gave me the ticket, and then I'm.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Just like sin curios and sin here.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: And then they came down and I saw Justin and
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: I said, can I have a hob and he hugged me,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: and that was just incredible.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: You just yeah, I didn't watch that, no.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: Of course.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I still them waving to me from the tour bus
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: when I was eleven or twelve, and I was just
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: like that wave. My mom didn't hear the end of
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: it for for months, you know, and all it was
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: was just a general wave in that direction. So I mean,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I have another story. You're just like she is you guys,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: if you guys know me and my like pop culture,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: like millennial self. That's what a lot of the first
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: quarter or so of the book is about. And then
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: those you know, that mindset leads you to the Bachelor,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: and then you are kind of living a rom com
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: where like there are people on to run it out there,
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: like rooting for you to be the bachelorette, to be
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: with Peter in the end and be the ultimate twist
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: of the season. And then the last quarter of the
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: book is about It's a lot about the relationships that
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: you thought we're going to lead to marriage and you
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: going quote woo woo, and you also, yeah, your whole
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: spiritual journey, and so.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: You're like a would you say it's a trained hypnotherapist.
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Feel like you should come on an episode of housewives
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and you should hypnotize them into like having a clear
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: slate with each other. And when I say them, I
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: mean a couple of the ladies that have mad beef.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: They have to want it.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: That's why you have to want it. You can't you
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: can't force it. Okay, it's kind of like seeing a
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: personal trainer, right, you come because you want to change something. Yeah,
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: and so it's a it's we're working together, but I
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: would love to. I actually really love how some of
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: these housewives are. Really they seem pretty like tapped in spiritually. Yeah,
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: there's a few things they were saying that I'm trying
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: to remember now there's a couple of them, or like
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: they're really into astrology.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we do like astrology. I mean I've always
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: loved astrology. I'm a Pisces, and I so define Pisces.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: What are you? I'm Aquarius, so you're not even a
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: water sign, and I felt like, with your emotions you
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: might be. I know, he's Dawson's an Aquarius. Oh, January
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: thirty first and Justine's birthday, and then also my mom's birthday.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: So and also the day that my parents met. Isn't
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: that the strangest thing ever?
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the day that we met Tom Brady for
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: the first time. Oh my god, I mean it's really weird, right, Yeah,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: And then that was how I had my justin Timberlake moment.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Is because my friend was my midwife and her poster
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: in the second row said with me, I delivered her
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: baby on your birthday, and that's what got him the day.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: I remember that. Ye, that was amazing. Oh my god.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: So good.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so good. But I just wanted to like that's
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: what I just kind of like let everybody else out
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: there know that it's a book about every like so
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: many things. It's just such a fun, good read and
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: it's really about you talk like every thing is about love.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: So it's really like a biography or an auto biography
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: about like a girl who loves love. Yeah, so that
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: is what you need to take from this when if
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: you're out there thinking like, oh is it is it?
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: This is it? That, it's like, it's just a book
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: about a girl who just like loves love and it's
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: her love journey. And now explain how you were once
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: in the true running to become the bachelorette.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: Well, when all the rumors came out, Yeah, I get
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: a call from Mike twice and he was like and
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: I was scared, but again at the time nothing had
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: to actually happened. But you know, like seeing it all
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: and like what's he gonna say? It's like we're loving
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: these rumors and the story and tell her me sees
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: it as a modern day Cinderella story, and I'm like, yeah,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: I agree. I mean I literally picked Bookers out of
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: these contestants and noses and he's like, would you ever
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: consider being the bachelorette? Yeah? Yeah?
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: And I was like, and Rob Mills also was on board.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: So I end up having like a secret meeting with
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Mike and Rob.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: And this was all because of the rumors going on
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: that you may have ended up with Peter. And then
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: a lot of the fandom started to imagine what if
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: we had somebody from behind the camera live this, especially
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: somebody that people were having like some sort of parasocial
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: relationship with you, they like really wanted you.
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a lot of support.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: I mean a little bit of hate, but I got a.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Lot of support.
• 42:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: It was quite like you know, so then, of course,
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: how do you not get caught up in that when
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: we grew up on you know, these brom coms, And
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: I was like, yes, sign me up. I was I
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: was clearly like starting to be over my job at
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: that point. It was just really like I think, mentally
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: and emotionally draining, and and so I was like, yeah,
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: sounds great. And then yeah, so we had a secret
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: meeting about it. It went really well. I thought they
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: were seemed really excited about it. But you know, in
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: the end, my my im media boss is shut it down.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: I think they who has the ultimate say? Or is
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: it collaborative like everybody must be in a grant, It's
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: pretty collaborative. Yeah, I mean at the time, was you
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: know at the same time you know the people that
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: are actually there. Yeah, there's a lot of them. There's
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: a lot of them.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: So a lot of people are wondering how you a
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: producer write a quote tell all, which that's the thing.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: It's not without breaking nda without breaking rules. I don't
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: think in the book that you ever really talked too
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: specifically about the ins and outs of production. And I'm
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: saying I'm answering the question for you. Yeah, I don't
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: think that there's anything broken there.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: To me, it's about my experience as a girl navigating
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: my own journey for love while climbing, you know, a
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: career in Hollywood and sort of the how that kind
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: of pulled me away from my own love story and
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: then trying to reclaim that and and so it's all
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: from my perspective and my emotions and my feelings. I
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: had a lawyer that used to review the books the
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: show review it from me, and she felt clear that
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: thought I was okay.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and Chris Harrison writes the foreword, how was that? Ask?
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: Well, it was the first time I actually told anyone
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: from the show about what happened, so I was really
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: nervous to talk to him about it. But you know,
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: like the great host he is, in my opinion, he
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: like held his face for me.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: I got really.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Emotional as I was talking about it, and he was
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: super kind and and and willing and happy for me.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: What was your relationship like during the show.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: Chris, Oh, I love Chris. Yeah, yeah, we had a
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: great relationship. I'm really grateful for his support and kindness.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Where did you leave off with Peter? So in the book,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Like I don't even really want to give a lot
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: of spoilers, but in the book, you have the moment
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: where you tell him about your feelings, which is different
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: than like your physical moments when you tell him about
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: your feelings. He received it very kindly, of course. And
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: again this is like another moment whereas just like Peter
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: is like very good guy and he's very clearly a
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: good guy through the entire book. Where did your friendship
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: leave off after the telling of those feelings? Yeah, you know,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: we it was it awkwardly was it like, oh, okay,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: so she likes me, so we can't really be friends anymore.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: We hadn't been talking as much well we you know,
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: he had moved to New York and then you know,
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: he was dating Kelly for a while, so yeah, you
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: know there are times when we reconnect it and then didn't.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: So it was kind of like this. But after that,
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: I mean we were like fine, you know, like.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: You see him again after that in person.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: I think I've ran into him again at stageco oh
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: really I thought that, like you guys were gonna have
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: a romantic we're kindling.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil book, okay, because you do,
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: like you write it in such a way that the
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: Peter stuff sprinkles, and I'm always eager to get to
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: the next Peter moment because it is very cute. Okay,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: thank you.
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, And I think actually, like after I had
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: that conversation with him, it's you know, and I talk
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: about this in the book, how we sort of like
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: sometimes you build things up in your head more when
• 46:24
  Speaker 4: you're removed from the person. There's a lot of like
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: holding on to the what is and.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: All that stuff when you're not seeing them consistently, it'll
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: drag something out that should have been a month two years.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then like for a while working on this
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: fictional story, so it's kind of still like living in it,
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: you know, weird. Yeah, and again you know you talk
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: about this sort of like illusion, and you know, I
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: created these fairy tales on TV, and then all of
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: a sudden, I was like writing this fairy tale and
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: then like wondering if I could actually produce my own
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: fairy tale. So it's a you know. And then again
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: like once I have the conversations like oh god, oh
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: it took us one call, but so we're afraid to
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: have this like really vulnerable conversations express how we feel.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: Or must have been beating out of your chest making
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: that call.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's actually it was actually okay, Oh yeah.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I think for me it was more just.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: I just needed to say it to like put behind
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: the possibilities and like, and afterwards I felt so great,
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: I felt at peace and ready to put that chapter
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: fully behind me.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: So how do I feel heartbroke. I feel for Peter,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: and I also feel for you and the status of
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: your relationship.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: Now, how do you.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: How do you feel?
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: How do you currently feel? Knowing that he said like
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: one of somebody that was once such like a best
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: friend to you is like, I I can't. I feel
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: very angry towards you, and so much so that I
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: would like to sue you, Like, how does that like
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: sit with you today?
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: I think if there's any doubt in my mind that
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: we should be togain, I have clarity now, But no,
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: how's it?
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: No, I you know, I think he's operating from a
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: place of fear, understandably so and and all I could
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: do is send him love and and I think, you know,
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: people come into your life for like a reason, season
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: or lifetime, and I think it came into my life
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: for a reason, and I'm grateful for what the situation
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: with him led me to. So I yeah, I'm a
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: I'm at peace with with not staying friends. It's okay, okay, Yeah,
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: I feel bad that he's like so upset. I don't
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: you know? Again, I think like I knew intuitively that
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: I need to share this story for again it's not
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: just to tell all about Peter. It's my journey and
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: my story that he was a part of supporting character
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: for if you will, And so I I knew I
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: had to share it, and for so many years I didn't,
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: I think because of not wanting to hurt him. And again,
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: like I you know, I've let men, I think hold
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: me back a lot in the past, and and I
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: just won't let them do that anymore.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to the people who say this is a money
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: rab she could have written a diary, she didn't have
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: to share it with the world, what do you say?
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for me, there's a there's a greater
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: purpose in all this in terms of like the work
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: I do now and the spiritual journey I've been on
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: and the things I've been uncovering. Actually, I mean, to
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: be completely honest, my bigger hope in all this is
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: to bridge that gap between that wu Wu world and
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: the mainstream Bachelor audience in actually like kind of a funny,
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: approachable way, because the things that I've been uncovering on
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: my spiritual journey have been like super powerful me really magical.
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: We're actually like really magical human beings that are capable
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: of so much more than we're conditioned to believe in
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: this world. And and that's the work I do now,
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: and that's the sage I want to spread. And again,
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: it's all about like actually tapping into this vessel of
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: unconditional love that's available to all of us. And so
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: my journey for love is what I want to continue
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: to help other people do is go on their own journey.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, this all makes sense when you read the book. Yeah,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: it's very fluid. So what do you do today because
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: you have is it? Would you call it like a
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: life coaching through the love producer?
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I've lost the love producer dot com. Yeah,
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: I've watched a business as a love producer, so kind
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: of lending my old storytelling world of the bachelor world.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: So on my journey, I studied a number of modalities, uh, hypnotherapy, coaching,
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: energy healing, tapping. So now as a love producer, I
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: work with women and help guide them on their journey
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: for love. And so like any leading lady, you have
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: to look at the backstory, right, just like on the show.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: But let's look at your backstory and what are those
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: stories you're telling yourself? What is that programming from you know,
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: your first experience with love like right for me, like
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: my first boyfriend betrayed me and that's stuck in my
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: subconscious and so on a subconscious level, I kept pulling
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: in these guys that never fully chose me. And so
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: actually now that I have like these tools, so we
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: could look at your backstory and how do you want
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: to rewrite it going forward? So I'll work with clients
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: to actually do the deeper healing work to break through
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: those subconscious blocks and patterns so that you could actually
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: produce the love and life you desire from the inside out. Yeah,
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: and I'm doing a retreat apply Escondida into something.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: No way Ascandida. Guys, that is where we shot Bachelor.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: That's not the og home, but the most known home
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: of Bachelor in Paradise.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: So that is so cool.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: What a great spot for it. How many people can go.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: It's going to be a smaller group for this first one.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: That seems like a very exclusive situation.
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're going to limit it to like
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: fifteen Okay, but yeah, so it'll be like five days
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: there and come let me be your love producer. But
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: I'm going to bring different experts that help me on
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: my journey too. So I have a number of workshops
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: to actually help people like go deeper on their journey
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: for love. Mix them with some fun group dates and
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: stuff too.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: So now you're going to have the millionaire matchmaker Patty
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Stinger question asked you? Asked to you, Well, if you're
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: not married, why do I use your guidance?
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Where are you?
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Where's your stance? What's your relationship status right now?
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: I had a complete imposter syndrome for forever. But to me,
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: like again, love is not like romantic relationships are all
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: there to help you tap into the own love available
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: to you. So each relationship is there as a tool
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: to help you grow and expand to this, you know,
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: this level of unconditional love that we are. I'm grateful
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: that I never like settled and when and I realized
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: I had to go on this inner journey to actually
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: be in a place like even the type of men
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: I want now has changed once I've gotten to know
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: myself more. You know, sometimes so many people seek love
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: externally before actually finding it within themselves. So really that's
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: what it's about for me. I you know, I'm open
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: to dating. I date, but I've been Selba for like
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: a year and a half. Yeah, I realized, like we're
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: all energy, and so like, I'm very like protective of
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: my space, but I believe the guys that come into
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: my life are for a reason, and so like even
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: if I go on a date, it's like, Okay, what
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: am I learning about myself from it?
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: So that's great, that's a really cool way to go
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: on a date. Honestly, Yeah, that's like take a little
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: pressure off. Yeah.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: They all come in for a reason. So if you could,
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: you know, we either repeat the same patterns with men, right,
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: We'll either keep repeating the same kind of relationship over
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: and over. Once you bring awareness to that, it's like, Okay,
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: what are the lessons from this relationship and how so
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: how do I change them in the next and next Yeah.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Oh I'm so. I'm this is very interesting and I'm
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: excited about you having a conversation with one of my
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: best friends, nas Paraz. You're doing it next week, right
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: on Friday at the Grove. Okay, yeah, because you guys
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: unbelievably similar situations, both a little bit woo woo, both
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: batch of producers that are total hopeless romantics. Did it
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: in your twenties and thirties. That's going to be so
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: interesting to hear you guys talk about. So make sure
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: that that's recordedhow.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I'm really excited to show you.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. All right, Well, you guys can get The Love
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Producer on Amazon of course, at the Love Producer dot
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: com and basically anywhere books are sold. I feel like
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: this is such a wide release.
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, anywhere books are sold. I was encouraged
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: to call your local bookstore. Okay, yeah, we love the locals.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, and it's out. Is it out now?
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: July seven? July seven? All right?
• 54:43
  Speaker 6: Really?
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so it's out now. And congratulations on you know,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: getting this chapter of your life out there, because we
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: know that it means a lot that you put it
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: out there.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: It's what you wanted to do.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: Thank you. I appreciate your support, of course.
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Congratulations and love to all involved in this conversation. Yeah,
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: basin them all.
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: Love.
• 55:08
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