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The Congressional Oversight Committee Releases The Epstein Related Bill Gates Transcript (6/25/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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Epstein Chronicles. Over the past twenty four hours, the House
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Oversight Committee has released the transcript from their interview with
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Bill Gates and with Leslie Groff, and now that we
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have access to both of those transcripts, we'll get those
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added to the catalog as well. And my plan is
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to dive into the Bill Gates transcript as soon as
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we're done with Tovin O weel and we're pretty close
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to wrapping that one up. We don't have much further
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to go as far as that interview, so as soon
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as that one's done, we'll get started on the Bill
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Gates transcript and then after that we'll dive right into
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Leslie Groff. But before we dive into those transcripts, we
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have an article from CNN and the headline Gates says
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he didn't witness crimes, but may have been in the
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presence of Epstein victims. This article was authored by Annie
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Grayer and Olina Fayes. Billionaire Bill Gates testify that he
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never interacts did with victims of Jeffrey Epstein, but acknowledge
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that he may have been in their presence. According to
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a transcript of his closed door interview with the House
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Oversight Committee, released on Tuesday. Well, there's no doubt. If
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you're going to consider Sarah Kellen a victim, and you're
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going to consider Nadia Marsenkova a victim, then there's no
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doubt that Bill Gates was in their presence and around them.
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Of course, that doesn't mean that Bill Gates was partaking
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in the abuse, but it does mean that Bill Gates
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knew a lot more than he let on, and who
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knows what kind of information he had that could have
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been helpful to an investigation. You don't come forward the
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second a guy like that gets arrested, even if you
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make pretend you didn't know previously. He gets arrested in
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twenty nineteen, and you don't have your legal team reach
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out right away to the FBI and say, look, I
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had a relationship with him, but I didn't see anything crazy.
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I'd love to come in and talk to you guys
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and see if there's anything I need know that might
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help out. I mean, that would be the decent thing
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to do, right and I'm sure most people out there
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would do that. You find out, like you know, a
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coworker or a friend is under investigation or has been
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arrested for this kind of thing, and the first thing
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I'm going to be thinking is what do I know?
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Did I ever see anything crazy? Can I help the investigation?
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But people like Bill Gates instead, he went the opposite direction, right,
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lied about it, tried to downplay it, tried to whitewash it.
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But this day and age, with how quickly everything moves,
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social media and otherwise very difficult to do. You can
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only hide things for so long, especially when you have
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all of this attention on the topic. And it's one
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of the main reasons that I have no remorse for
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these people. This isn't something that you know, just showed
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up and has become a problem for them. They've known
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about their relationships with Epstein for all these years, and
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the vast majority of these people lied about it. The
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Microsoft co founder maintained in the voluntary interview which took
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place on Capitol Hill earlier this month, that his three
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year relationship with a convicted sex offender was strictly professional
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and that he never witnessed or participated in any sexual misconduct.
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And again, look, there's no evidence of that. Nobody's making
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those allegations. The problem for Bill Gates is the fact
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that he lied about that relationship. So of course that
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makes people wonder what else are you lying about? And
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just because we don't have evidence of it doesn't mean
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something else didn't happen, Right, That's why we have to
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have an investigation. And when you get caught up with
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somebody like Jeffrey Epstein, don't come crying to me that
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you're swept up in some vast investigation where they're looking
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at your behavior and if you were engaging in any
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kind of abuse. Fellow Travelers and all but Democratic Representative
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Robert Garcia pointed that the panel's investigation has shown that
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some of Epstein's employees were also abused by the late financier,
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making it difficult for Gates to rule out that he
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was never around any of Epstein's victims. Well, that's true,
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and that goes for everybody. Now, the defense is going
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to be they didn't know, they had no idea what
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was going on. They thought they were just Jeffrey Epstein's assistants.
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Because there's no talk, right, there's no scuttle, but nobody
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has anything to say out of the side of their mouth.
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That's a very good point, said Gates, who acknowledged he
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saw some of Epstein's female employees at the end of
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a meeting on one of Epstein's planes. He added, I
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may have been in the presence of victims, not may
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have been. You were, And even if you just think
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that you were around people who were being trafficked, that's
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something that you should be telling the authorities. All right, Look,
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I didn't know then, but I know now, and this
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is what I saw, this is when I saw it,
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and this is where I saw it. But instead it
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has to be this whole entire circus, right Congress, etc.
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Bill Gates could have easily held a press conference years
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ago and cleaned this all up, or at the very
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least explained his relationship, but instead he justled and the
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legacy media, well they ran with it. Oh. Bill Gates
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is such a great guy. He's trying to cure malaria.
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He would never do something like that. It's a vast
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right wing conspiracy. Yeah, well guess what is it? Still
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a vast right wing conspiracy. As part of the Oversight
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Committee's ongoing probe, the Panels saught Gates testimony after the
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release of additional Epstein files by the Justice Department this
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year raised questions about his ties to the late convicted
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sex offender. Well, if you would have just paid attention
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years ago, when we all told you what was going
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going on, maybe Epstein would have been held to account,
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maybe the people that enabled them would have been called
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out onto the carpet. But everybody was way too busy
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when this story was breaking to actually give a damn.
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And we're not going to engage in any revisionist history
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here and give people credit for showing up late to
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the party. I mean, where were all these people out
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when Virginia was begging for people to listen to her.
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Where were all these big gigantic media outlets when the
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survivors were coming out telling their stories and being absolutely trashed.
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The thing is, this wasn't profitable back then, so they
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had no desire to report on it, and they also
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didn't want to out their buddies. I mean, remember what
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Nancy Pelosi's own daughter said that some of our faves
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are going to be outed, And there's no doubt that
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some of the faves have been outed. The panel also
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Tuesday released the transcript of Epstein's longtime assistant Leslie Groff,
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who characterized her former boss as a master and manipulator,
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and said she did not know about his crimes. Groff
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revealed that she connected Epstein and President Donald Trump, then
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a private citizen, on the phone multiple times over a
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period of ten years, but said she did not know
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the content of those conversations. Trump has long denied any
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wrongdoing related to Epstein, as well as any allegations of
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sexual misconduct. Well, I'm sure he'll deny the phone calls too. Oh,
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that didn't happen. He called my office. I didn't want
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to talk to him. We were never friends. You know,
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the same old song and dance we get all the time.
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And then you'll have James Calmer coming out, drooling and
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just going along with whatever the president says. CNN has
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reached out to representatives for Gates and Graff for comment.
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In his interview, Gates laid out how Epstein attempted to
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use information about the Microsoft co founder's personal life, including
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that he had been unfaithful in his marriage, to pressure him. Yeah, blackmail,
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compromitt But I thought Cash Ptel said that didn't happen
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and none of that existed. Could it be that Cash
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Patel is lying? Could that possibly be the case. Now, look,
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I'm not hip to the you know, ancient Scandinavian religion
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of a sartu or whatever it's called. But do you
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get to Valhalla if you're lying? I wonder how Odin
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feels about people that protect diddlers. My guess is they're
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going to have a date with Thores Hammer, That's my guess.
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But having the audacity to get up there and try
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and tell people that there was no blackmail, no compromont,
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that none of that occurred, is just straight up lunacy.
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After he cut ties with Epstein in twenty fourteen, Gates
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were called one instance in which Epstein emailed asking for
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reimbursement for expenses Epstein had paid for related to a
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woman Gate had an affair with. Why would Epstein be
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paying for those expenses? That seems like a good question
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to ask. No, Bill Gates can't front the bill short
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on dough. Uncle Funzelo is in town? Does he have
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short arms and deep pockets? What's going on? Why is
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it that Jeffrey Epstein's involved in any way when it
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comes to Bill Gates's love life? These are very simple
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questions and we have no answers for them. And this testimony.
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I don't think it really provides the answers that we're
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looking for. I communicated to my key person, top person
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at Gates Ventures, Larry Cohen, that we were never going
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to pay anything. Gates testified. Gates was introduced to Epstein
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in twenty eleven through one of his most trusted employees,
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doctor Boris Nikolic, whom Gates believes told Epstein about two
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of the extra marital affairs behind closed doors. Investigators press
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Gates about other potential affairs, arguing it was relevant to
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determine whether Gates had any other ties to the convicted
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sex offender, but Gates and his legal team pushed back, Yeah,
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it's a voluntary interview. Refer to the last episode and
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why the voluntary interviews and the whole process is a
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bunch of bs. The tech billionaire pointed specifically to the
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draft emails that Epstein appears to have written to himself
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in twenty thirteen that include a series of graphic, unverified
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allegations against Gates, and argued that Epstein would have mentioned
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other affairs there, or maybe not, maybe he was holding
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some back. You don't just launch your whole entire salvo
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right away, right do the Gruccies fire off all the
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fireworks at the beginning, or do that wait for the
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end and then launch everything in a grand finale. I
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think that Epstein, when he was writing emails to himself,
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took every potential negative thing he knew, and some that
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are completely false, and he put those into draft emails
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to himself. Gates said. And so I think if in
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some weird way he discovered anything negative to say about me,
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he would have seen that in the emails that he
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sent to himself. Yeah, I don't buy that. Nice excuse,
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but I don't buy it. Okay, Sorry, Billy boy Gates.
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In the stream of conscious notes riddled with typos and vitriol,
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which Gates has stated or false, Epstein appears to claim
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he facilitated sexual encounters four Gates and helped him obtain
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medication to hide and his sexually transmitted infection from his wife. Look,
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I don't know if that's true. Could it be for sure?
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I mean Bill Gates has the ability to keep that hidden.
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A few palms greased here, a few bags dropped off there,
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and everything's all good. In his closed door interview, Gates
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said that he never had an STD, but that it's possible.
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He communicated to Nikolch that he was worried that he
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might have had one. Oh boy, I bet who he
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had one. He probably had the clap or something. I mean,
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if you're out here and you're doing what he was
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doing allegedly with all these affairs, is it that big
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of Elipe? Upon meeting Epstein in twenty eleven, Gate said
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he was aware of the financier had a criminal conviction
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that was of a sexual nature, but still said he
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was interested in pursuing a professional relationship with Epstein, who
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claimed he could raise billions of dollars for global health.
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Ah well, you know, global health and all to help
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with the girls that were abused, to hell with the
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people that had their lives ruined, because you know, he
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can raise some money. To this day, Gate said he
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wishes he had not ignored Epstein's bad reputation in pursuit
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of philanthropic opportunity that never came to fruition. Even though
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Epstein tried to invite him to the island or social functions,
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Gates said he was conscious not to cross that threshold
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because of Epstein's criminal conviction. Oh well, I'll pander to
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him for some money. And I'll show up like a beggar,
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but I'm not going to go to his island. Save it, okay,
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please save the bullshit. I have regret that I didn't
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factor that into a greater degree, Gates testified. Gates also
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said that he finds it confusing how Epstein was able
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to accumulate his wealth, and noted that Epstein's New York
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City apartment was one of the most spacious homes in
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Manhattan he has ever seen. Yeah, well, no shit, and
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we all know how he got his money. Stop. Can
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we just stop with the nonsense? Please dancing around the edges.
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This man gained all that money and kept it growing
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by laundering it, and not just for himself, for all
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of his buddies too. You know all these people that
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you want to have empathy for, Yeah, those people. Gates said.
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He also voluntarily cooperated with the Attorney General of the
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US Verse, Jann Islands, by sitting for an interview and
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providing some financial documents, though he did not specify when
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that was. During the Denise, George moved to try and
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get the sicco suit going, and that was in pursuit
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of that graft. Meanwhile, is one of the most notable
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members of the late financiers in her orbit to speak
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to Congress as part of his Epstein investigation. A ubiquitous
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assistant who helped manage every aspect of Epstein's life, from
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scheduling massages to appointments with women to meetings with powerful individuals,
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as evidenced in the Justice departments millions of Epstein files.
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But Graff's denials that she had any knowledge about Epstein's
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wrongdoing was immediately met with condemnation from survivors. And I
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agree with that too. Now, Leslie Groff, I don't think
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was engaging in abuse, but she enabled it. She was
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a co conspirator. And if she was setting up phone
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calls and she was, you know, providing logistics, then she's
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part of the regal operation. The whole entire point of
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RICO is to go after shit like this. Groff said
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she believed that everyone she scheduled Epstein for a massage
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was a massage therapist, and said that she considered it
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to be an independent contractor type of situation. Of course
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she did. What's she going to incriminate herself? Oh yeah,
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I knew I did it. Anyway, She testified that she
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stopped regularly booking these massage appointments for Epstein in two
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thousand and eight, when he served about a year in
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jail in Florida. But Democrats on the committee looked at
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poll holes in that assertion by pointing to other appointments
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after two thousand and eight that Grof booked for Epstein. Grof,
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in defense of booking appointments for Epstein even after his
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first incarceration, told lawmakers, I would not have known that
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this was a massage. I don't know. You're assuming that
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I would think it was a massage, but I did
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not think of it as a massage. I don't believe that.
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I'm sorry, I don't believe it, and I don't think
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a jury would either, honestly, So she had no idea,
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just a shrinking violet. Stop it. That is a bunch
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of nonsense. Leslie Groff knew, maybe not all of the
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granular details, but you would have to be very, very
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stupid to not understand what was going on. And I
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have a very hard time believing that narrative. I'm sorry,
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but I don't believe it. You were around him so often,
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with so many people for so long, you knew or
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at the very least you have heard that some bad
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shit was going on, and you stayed. You continued to
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book massages, you continued to remain quiet, and you continued
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to look the other way. And we all know why.
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Financial benefit. That's why. So as far as Leslie Groff goes,
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I don't buy a thing she has to say. And
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Bill Gates, well, it was only a matter of time
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before he was outed as the liar he is because
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the facts were there. We have heard all these stories
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for years, but now we have the confirmation with the emails,
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and Bill Gates can no longer deny it. That is
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the only reason he's admitting it. In a perfect world
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for Bill Gates, he would have been able to continue
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to deny this until the end of time. But now
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that the files are there for everybody to see, now
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he has to change up the strategy. Right. Oh well,
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I knew, but I didn't know the full extent. And
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that's going to be the defense from all these people.
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That's what they're going to say. The question is are
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you buying it? All the information that goes with this
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