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#688: They Don’t Want You Flying · Macroaggressions

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All right, you know, I've been talking to Sam Tripoli's been saying this for a long time
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They don't want you flying. They don't want you flying
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I was just in Nashville with Sam and they don't want you flying on my way back
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We pushed our flights back till the afternoon till like you know 530 flight because we were gonna go to the Titans game
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It wound up not happening but
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You know, it's opening weekend of the NFL
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I want to you know, we'll go catch a game in Nashville because it's right down the street
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We didn't wind up making that happen
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I had to go to the airport anyway and my flight got delayed and delayed and delayed and ultimately canceled right around
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Midnight and then they put me on the next flight which was 6 a.m. In the morning. So imagine my
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Joy when I find out I get to go to a
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Hotel that's right off right off the airport's property
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I get to sleep for two hours
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Then I get to go back through security again, which is fun and then they didn't have a direct flight
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They sent me to Chicago. So again, you get there. You know, I finally get there in one piece
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But it's a just a reminder that
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And look, I understand air airplane delays happen
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Mechanical delays have been a thing forever. Okay, and I also don't want to rush to get on an airplane
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That's having mechanical issues so
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But it's a reminder and when you're sitting there, you know, like there's only so many beers
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You can drink at the Nashville Airport before you just get annoyed with the fact that you're still there and you're not leaving, right? So
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Yeah, I figured it would be a good a good idea for an episode
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probably while while I was sitting there stewing about how
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It's not just that the flying experience is awful, it's awful. There's no doubt about that
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It's all the ancillary components of it that make the lead up to it terrible as well dealing with TSA
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Dealing with the airline employees. So after they canceled the flight
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They told us over the loudspeaker good cancel all your stuff. We'll rebook you and you know, just come up to the
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To the gate and you know to the lady here at the counter and we'll just get you rebooked anything
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So I cancel everything I get in line I get up to the lady. She goes, well, where's your stuff?
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I said well, I canceled it like you said just goes. Oh, no, you can't cancel it now
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I don't have any record of it and I went ballistic
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What are you talking about you just said to cancel it
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I mean, I literally followed your instructions now. You're telling me I did it wrong sir
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Don't raise your voice with me sir. Don't even know we got to the point where she threatened to call the police
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the lady at the United
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Terminal who was so bad at her job that everybody was yelling at her
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But I decided that I would make sure that she knew it that that I was going to explain it to her in
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Excruciating detail why she's incompetent. She didn't really appreciate that. But you know, I have zero
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sympathy for these people. I get it. You're in customer service. It sucks. Everybody's yelling at you
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Well, have you considered giving better service?
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Have you have you tried that as an option? Maybe you won't get screamed at I let that lady have it
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She had it coming to her though and and I left before the cops came
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But the fact that I even had to
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Deal with that was annoying and we have been slowly
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Boiled like the frogs that we are, you know, I
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Remember, you know this this the problem I have with a variety of things having to do with the Patriot Act
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But one of them was the creation of the TSA a department of Homeland Security as well
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but the TSA and
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This is a reminder that the TSA used to not exist and that you didn't have to take your shoes off
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And you didn't have to take your laptops out of that and that all of this is performative security theater, okay?
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I'll tell you what in
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1999
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So we're a couple years before 9-11
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I'll have you know that I went to the airport with five of my friends six of us total all
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dressed in
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professional Hollywood costumes we had gotten from a friend who worked in a
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studio
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All six of us were dressed as Arab sheiks
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One of the the sheiks in our group was Chinese
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Nobody seemed to ask any questions about that. We all had sunglasses on
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we had
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We had walk I had a Sony Walkman underneath my gown that was connected to
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two little speakers, so it was in like a fanny pack and
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And then we had cassettes that were playing like Arabic music on a loop just both sides
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So once it got to one side it would just flip over like as Walkman's did and start playing the other side
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And two of the six of us had these underneath our outfits, right?
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So not only were we sheiks, but everywhere we went there was faint sound of Arabic music playing
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Like every and we had pouches with gold chocolate coins in it
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You know those those gold coins that are actually chocolate
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And so we were handing out chocolate coins everybody. There's no there's metal detectors, right?
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But there's no secure. There's no TSA type setup
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We walked through la I bite mind you this is
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October 30th. This is the date. This isn't the morning of Halloween
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Which you know you maybe would be like oh expecting some guys in costumes
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This is the morning of the day before Halloween and we just and we're going to Vegas
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But we're just gonna go in costume anyway because why not because that's how we were you know back then and
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I've got I mean I've got pictures of all this. I've got pictures of us on the airplane
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I've got so so the flight lands right and as the flight is getting ready to land in Vegas the
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Flight attendant comes by our aisles and goes I need you guys to go ahead and remain seated and let everybody else get off the flight
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I was like fuck we're going to jail
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So we land
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Everybody gets off takes 20 minutes, you know, we're sort of like debating how this is gonna go down
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Here comes the pilot comes walking down the aisle. He goes I hear we have some royalty on this flight
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We all go yeah, baby. He says we guys want to come sit in the in the cockpit take some pictures
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Absolutely, we do so I have pictures of us dressed as sheiks in the cockpit of a jet
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Standing next to a pilot who's giving us the thumbs up. So I say that
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Because you need to know how air air travel used to be
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You used to be able to dress as an Arab chic and get the pilot to take pictures with you
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You understand how different things have now I'm yelling at the United attendant
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And she's threatening to take me away to jail because I'm reminding her that she's stupid and she can't do her job properly
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I mean, that's where we've gone
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When my mom was a 20 year old in the in the early 60s
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She was an international flight attendant for Pan Am out of New York City
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Which is like the most glamorous job you could possibly have and this is back when they smoked cigarettes on the planes
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Right, but they also rolled out like a full
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Thanksgiving dinner turkey meal down the aisle and we're carving it up
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And it was a whole different experience and people got dressed up to go on planes and and yeah
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You know you thought you could pull that little curtain and have like a smoking section and a non-smoking section
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Which is kind of cartoonish if you think about it now
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But I would give anything to go back to those days
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you know, I don't remember that that was a little bit before my time and
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You know, I just I've done so much flying this year that this is at the top of my mind
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I I stand on this record. I think this is the record. I don't know if anybody is going to challenge me on it
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But if they if they do wish to challenge me on this potential record
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I I welcome it and I shake their hand because they're my type of person
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But I'm pretty sure I set the record for the fastest argument of the year with TSA
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There's I can't imagine
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anybody
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Getting into this heated of an argument this quickly it happened at 445 in the morning on January 1st
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so and it's Atlanta and if you've ever gone through the intergalactic airport known as the
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Hartzfield Jackson
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Airport in Atlanta. I that is where smiles go to die
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That is where customer service ends that is where
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Misery loves company it Atlanta's airport is an abomination
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And it starts with the people that work there
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Never had a good day in their life, right?
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So I mean so it starts with that and I'm in my fight with the guy is
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That I show him my ID at the check-in where we're going through right before you go through
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The metal detectors you go through a screening where they check your ID
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And they want you to stand and take your picture in front of a in front of the camera
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I hand the guy my ID he sticks it in the thing and I say no pictures. I'm not doing it
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He goes you have to tell me that before you give me the ID
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I said no I don't he said yes you do I said give me the ID back and then I'll tell you before he goes
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I already put it in the machine. I go what does that mean?
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He goes I have to take the picture. I go okay fine
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So I stand in front of the picture and turn completely backwards so it'll take a picture the back of my head
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He goes that doesn't work. I go you told me we have to take a picture. This is the picture
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I'm taking he goes no you can't do I said well
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I'm opting out he says you can't opt out and I said it's optional
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And he says you can't opt out and I said do you know what the word optional means?
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And he said you can't opt out and then I went full bananas on this guy
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And I started screaming because there's five different places you can check in and underneath
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There's five different people manning them and underneath them. There is a big sign that says to take your picture is optional
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And I start with optional optional optional optional up and I start going down
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I'm pointing at all these do you know what the word means and he did not like that one bit
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And I got everybody's attention 445 in the morning. Nobody wants this bullshit
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But I'll tell you what I'm gonna fight with these people every single time because they deserve it
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They have no authority over me. I refuse to submit to their authority
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So what do the guy do? He made me leave the terminal. I talk about again
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Here come the police
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You know and he made me leave the term go into a totally different terminal to clear security
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So that I could then get to my gate
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So they have no power except this the tiny amount where they can try to make you go through another gate
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but you know look
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And with the port of iarta earlier barely got out of there before bombs started going off
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I was in Croatia in June. I was in Serbia in August. I you know
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Yeah, I've gone through the Frankfurt Airport three times this summer. I've done some traveling, you know and
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And I can tell you it is
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Getting increasingly worse. Okay. I want to talk about so
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I want to talk about the air traffic controllers in this one. I know we've sort of gone for a little while
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I want to talk about how we fix it
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There are fixes to this and I want to tell you about like what the government thinks the answer is because guess what?
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They have a plan for this
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Oh, and I'll wrap up with something that's kind of that's actually really interesting and you should check out and that is
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The most efficient way to get on an aircraft
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There is a way to do it and I'll wrap up with that because the good news is
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You can get on the airplane and shave about 20 minutes off if everybody did the bad news is
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We live in a society that is so stupid that you can't do it because the people are too dumb to figure it out
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That's sort of the punch. I'm not giving it away all of it, but uh
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But yeah, man my my experience just this year they lost my tesla machine coming through out of budapest
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Well, they didn't lose it. They just couldn't get it on the proper flight, you know, so like everything is a problem
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You you get on a plane or you're going to get on a plane you've gone through you they've scanned you and they say, oh
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We we've run out of carry-on space on this flight. So we're gonna have to gate check your bag
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I don't want my bag gate checked. It's my carry-on for a reason. I don't want you touching it
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I don't want it gate checked. I want this stuff. Oh, sir. It doesn't matter. We're doing it
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Let me ask you this. Why are you telling us we can put carry-on bags on this airplane if I'm in the second
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boarding group
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And if the second boarding group were already out of space for the carry-ons, you've done something wrong
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You need to go back to the drawing board and figure this out because this isn't how it's supposed to work
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It never did this before and never had to gate check my stuff before
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Why is it? Why is it like everybody's forgotten how to run an air airline these days? And there's some airlines
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You don't even bother
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Don't even bother booking a ticket on frontier airlines. Don't even bother
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They have been pretending to fly people around the country for decades
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I remember one time it snowed here in denver as it does
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And frontier airline was closed for five days
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Five days denver has the greatest like
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A snow removal system in the world. I mean if you can they can land in blizzards here. It's not a big deal
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Frontier just mails it in they go. Well, you know
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Yeah, I know it's cleared up and it hasn't been snowing for the last 72 hours, but we're still working on things
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so, you know
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And also remember that the tsa is the enemy don't ever ever ever ever forget that
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So, um
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All right, so let's talk about how bad how bad it is and and this is this is the dilemma right on the one hand
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You want everything to work properly on the other hand
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You don't want to rush yourself into a jet that is either having
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problems with mechanical
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Or you know, you're going to be sitting on the runway for two hours because everything's backed up here
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There have been 300 near collisions each year in the united states
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300 that's almost one a day
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um
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And here's something that you don't know I did a deep dive into air traffic controllers
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It's a very stressful job as you would assume
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But they force mandatory retire everybody at 56 years old
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now I'm
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54
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That's two years from now
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I'll tell you I'd be pretty offended
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if they forced retired me
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Two years from now under the guise of well, you know diminished skills and you know, you're not what you used to be
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I'd be like really offended
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I've never felt better. I've never been better than I feel right now
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I've never been sharper than I am right now
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Forced retirement at 56. I mean, that's I get it on the one hand
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You don't want some old geezer out there going oh, I was looking at the radar wrong
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For sure. You want somebody who's sharp
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But 56 man 56 is ain't what it used to be. I mean in the old days, you know, you'd see those
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You'd see those, you know the the pictures of wilford brimley and cocoon
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He was younger than me filming that
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I think we're in some sort of weird era. We're like
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Uh, the you maybe get an extra 10 years or 20 years. I don't know
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But um
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Here's a statistic that will blow your mind and also probably making not want to get on a plane ever again, but there are
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1,000 fewer air traffic controllers today than there were 10 years ago
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A thousand fewer think about
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Think about that. I mean if there's one industry
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Where I would prefer that there were
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Like a thousand extra
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You know what? I mean not just the not a thousand fewer
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I would prefer if air traffic controller is one of those situations where it was like
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There's so many of them
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That you really only work a four-day week or you know, you work five
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Six-hour shifts or something like that, right? They keep everybody fresh. Um, I'm going to explain how how
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How that is not happening. In fact
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If you are an air traffic controller right now, you are set up on mandatory six-day work weeks, okay?
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plus
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Not only are you on a six-day work week, but you are on not just a little bit of overtime
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Expect heavy overtime their their words not mine heavy overtime, right?
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So what is this doing? It's leading to exhaustion obviously
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Which could lead to human errors, which happens and chronic shortages of people
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They have been at what they determine what they deem minimum staffing levels
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That have been made permanent
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So if you recall if you're old enough to recall like in the early 80s
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The air traffic controllers went on strike and ronald reagan fired them all right
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They moved to something called minimum staffing levels. They have never come off of that
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Since reagan fired everybody they have been at minimum staffing. They that's why they say they've essentially made
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Minimum staffing levels permanent
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so
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What you find is that there are guys in there that have been logging insane
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Hours six days a week plus overtime
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for 15 to 20 years straight
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Okay, and so
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So the question is how do you fix this because this need this is this needs to be fixed and I guess
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On the one hand that it's fixable, right?
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But is it meant to be fixed
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You know this this isn't japan in japan things get fixed my question is
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Is it broken intentionally? It's definitely broken
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It's undeniable that it's broken the fact that we haven't had more air traffic disasters
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is a miracle
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and
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And there's things we could do
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If we were serious about it about getting the right people in there
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But in case you have had your eyes closed for the last 10 years
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We have become a deeply unserious nation
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the united states has and so
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I can look at this and find
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easy fixes
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logical
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Low-hanging fruit that you could take care of right away
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And if I can figure this out and I'm not in the air traffic control industry
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I've got to assume they know how to fix it
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And so if if if I know how to do it and I'm an amateur
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Then they know how to do it if they're pros
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So the question is why isn't anything being done to improve the situation in fact?
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Why is everything being done to make the situation worse?
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And the answer is they don't want you flying
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Sam's right
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You know they're not going to come out and say it
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And these business you know these airlines have a vested interest in making money
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But we know about
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15-minute cities and we understand how the united nations views people and that they don't want them
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Leaving moving around and we've always been able to move around but now now they can control it right so
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You can
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Okay, so here's what I would do to fix the situation right off the bat my amateur
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Monday morning quarterbacking of this whole debacle
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First thing you do is you walk into the office if you are the new guy in charge and you
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Go to human resources and you look at everybody who is hired through
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DEI and you fire them on the spot
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Immediately, I don't care how low and staffed you are
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Everybody that was hired for diversity equity and inclusion reasons needs to be fired immediately
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And then they need to be put on a list of do not hire ever again. They were let in under false pretenses. They're frauds
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Okay
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Get rid of that reimagine the certification process. Okay, because right now
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The current certification to become an air traffic controller takes two years
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But the that's what they'll tell you the reality is it takes three years
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Now the reason why it takes three years is because the government shuts down from time to time
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And when the government shuts down
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All the training for this shuts down and then you get to go do fuck all for the next year
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They throw they just turn the classes off
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Because there's no funding
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So you're let's just imagine you're 18 months into a two-year plan to get yourself certified
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So you can be an air traffic controller. They shut down the government. They shut it down for four months
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Enjoy working at amazon, dude
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You were just in this training program. Now your training's gone
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Now we'll start it up again once the money comes back in
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Maybe maybe we'll pick up. I mean, but but you've left. You've said fuck this
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I'm out of here. Who needs this headache? I'm trying to train to become a to take a job with you guys
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This is not setting my mind at ease. You're you're you're shutting down the government during the training program
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What happens when I become a licensed air traffic controller? You're gonna shut it down then too
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So then so I won't have a job in the future as well. This is not a recipe for success
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So it takes between two to three years provided that the government isn't shut down or on strike to provide training
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then
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Then what happens is that
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For the people who are going through this training program
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It has a 75 washout rate
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Three out of every four people who start the program don't finish
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okay, so
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You again my amateur
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Opinion on this is that you have a training program program problem
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You need to get in there and change this whole thing. You need to come in here
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You need to reimagine the entire thing
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This is this calls for a reimagination of the entire air traffic controlling system
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You need to hot you need to bring in people and make them apprentices
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to current air traffic controllers
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Anybody who turns 56 and retires out because they can they can no longer be an air traffic controller
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They have to make some sort of
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Allowance for these guys to become trainers to then train these people. Maybe you can't legally do it. I don't know
28:29
You maybe need to give these guys a waiver to buy them three or four or five more years of being able to do this so that
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Maybe in the in the 56 to 60 age range
28:42
Those guys are working, but they're working their last couple years with an apprentice and by the time they're done
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They're going to hand it over to an apprentice who's had three good years four good years with them
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Who knows what they're doing and is ready to go if you have a 75 washout rate
28:57
You need to do something
28:59
You can't continue to do that, you know the tsa
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Has has dealt with situations like this
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When it comes to training
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And their policy is to hire the dumbest people they can find
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I'm not kidding
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They they give you a test for an employment at at tsa and you take the test and you submit it
29:23
You know you I don't know maybe do it online or whatever and you say did I pass and if you get brought in for
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for interviews and things like that and you make it as as a
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As an employee of the tsa you pass the test
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but
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The reason why you air quotes past the test is because you scored so low on the test
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That they know that you're stupid
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And you have no other options and that they have no problem now training you
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Investing the time and money to train you to become a tsa agent because they know you have no other options out there
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They've seen your scores you're dumb
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You're not you're not excelling at anything you think you got the score because you did well on the test
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No, no it's like golf
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Low score wins congratulations
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You were hired at the tsa because you were too stupid to have any other options and you need to know that
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If you work at the tsa and you're hearing that you need to know this
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You need to internalize that and if that makes you feel bad good
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I hope you cry yourself to sleep. You are the fucking enemy of humanity working for the tsa
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Understand that I have zero sympathy from you for you
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um, so
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The retirements are outpacing hiring's the reason is because nobody wants that job because it sucks
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If you've been through the airport, you know what that job is
30:45
I would throw myself off the roof of the denver international airport if my job was to work tsa for 10 years straight could you imagine
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Why
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so
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Here's here's an additional problem. So they have a staffing problem, which is a problem, of course
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Um, but they have an equipment problem, which is even a bigger issue. Okay?
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They have equipment from the 1980s the radar systems that they're using or from the reagan administration
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Okay, the hardware is also from the 80s the copper telephone line. They have
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Copper they have telephone lines that they call each other with that are copper copper telephone lines, you know because it's important
31:29
And they have no redundancies
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right, so so this is
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every component about this
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is
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shit design, right
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they have
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outdated radar outdated hardware
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newer software, but definitely not new
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they have no redundancies in place and they have um
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Employees not the air traffic controllers. They train them pretty well, but they have tsa employees who are hired
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Quite literally because they want people who have no other options anywhere else. They can't get hired anywhere else
32:08
This is air traffic. This is air travel. This is your your version of it. This is an embarrassment
32:16
The philadelphia airport that just blew
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both data lines
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To their air traffic controller is they have one and then they had a backup data line
32:26
They actually there was their redundancy
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And both of them went out and then they said this is a this is a problem philia, you know
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What is your situation? Why aren't you getting this together? They said well?
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It's not limited to this. We also had problems with the radar going out in 2025. So it's a pattern
32:43
They're gonna get people killed with this
32:45
They already got people killed the fedex airplane in miami went off the runway smashed in the cars and killed a bunch of people
32:51
currently out of
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300
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facilities
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operating in the united states air airport facilities
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Of the 300 take a wild guess how many are operating below staffing requirements
33:07
Out of 300 if you said 280 you're correct
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You're correct 93 percent
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Of the airports out there
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Don't have enough don't have the correct number of people working there
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in air traffic control
33:23
Feeling comfortable yet
33:26
It's not just that the system is old
33:28
It's not just that the system is using
33:31
outdated physical equipment. It's not just that they're using old software
33:36
They also don't have enough people and it's not just like
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100 people that they need to hire they have a shortage of
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3,000 certified professional controllers. They need 3,000 more
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Certified professional controllers just to get to where they're supposed to be
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Think about this. I may never get on a plane after this. I mean, I as I was writing this episode out
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I was like my god
34:04
It is so much worse than I thought and we just all suffer from normalcy bias. I am
34:10
steeped in it
34:12
Because I've been getting on planes and everything's fine
34:15
And everything's fine until it's not fine, you know, everyone who is
34:20
Retiring at 56 has to stay on
34:23
They've got to double their sound triple their salary. Keep them on even like they're the only ones with experience
34:29
You're gonna need them to train somebody
34:32
Because because what you're doing right now, whatever the current situation is whoever you think you you have training
34:37
You shouldn't scare away three out of every four people that want to come work for you
34:43
And if they're signing up because they know that it's going to be a two-year program
34:46
But it's actually a three-year program
34:48
You got to be up front with them and you have to pay them for the times when the government is not there
34:53
If you're putting somebody through a training program
34:56
And then the government goes on strike and you go. Well, it looks like the training program is over
35:00
You're gonna lose all those people unless you continue to pay them
35:04
So I I don't know
35:06
Maybe you need to bring in somebody who thinks like a businessman and not somebody who thinks like some government bureaucrat
35:12
Because you're running an air travel business here
35:15
And I don't know if you need to get the
35:17
The airlines to kick in money to finance this or what but you know privatization
35:23
I've always kind of wondered about privatization of air traffic control
35:27
It could work
35:30
But it could it could also be a disaster too
35:33
because like circo
35:36
manages airports in the united states in fact
35:40
I'll get I'll get to that in a second, but uh
35:43
You know
35:44
It takes a disaster to get people's attention on this stuff and the washington dc
35:51
airplane that was filled with all the figure skaters that slammed into that military
35:56
Helicopter that the diversity dipshit was flying. You saw her. Yeah, um the pilot of the military
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helicopter created
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Sort of like an urgency
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For air traffic controls to do something right it's always do something
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Something needs to be done about it 67 dead people is that going to get something done about it?
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It's been conveniently forgotten by the media
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Um, so let me ask is what does the government think the answer is?
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To all of this because they they have thoughts well
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Well, I'll tell you it's going to be wasteful. It's going to be delayed
36:32
It's going to be inadequate and it's going to be nonsensical just like all government endeavors
36:36
But here is what they came up with so congress says, um, you know once they finally got back in session
36:42
They gave the f a a 12.5 billion dollars to overhaul the technology after they killed all those ice skaters
36:50
They said, okay. Well, yeah
36:53
It's pretty obvious that things need to get done. Um, we need to update this system. Here's 12 and a half billion dollars to do it, right? So
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transportation secretary shawn duffy
37:05
Takes that money and starts to spend it a little bit, but then realizes. Hey, I need more money
37:11
Um, so he goes to congress and asks them for 20 billion more
37:16
This is 20 000 million dollars
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Extra that he needs and what he needs this for is what he calls quote
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The new phase the new phase of the air traffic control overhaul
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The new design in new architecture. Okay, so
37:32
I am
37:34
Intrigued by it
37:36
This is one of those situations where you I might actually be nodding
37:42
Along an agreement that the money does need to be spent and that you do need to overhaul
37:48
the
37:49
Air traffic control system then with a new design and new architecture for sure
37:55
but
37:56
boy, you know, I just
37:59
Again, when the government is involved in it
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It's going to be expensive and disjointed and wonky and I feel like if you were a company
38:09
Who had a vested interest and I know you get into a real
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real
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Gray area here when you're trying to
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If you're a company getting paid to make sure that flights come in and out of airports
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You're going to have a financial incentive to make sure the flights come in and out of the airports
38:23
and you're not going to want to delay them even if it means, uh
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Safety reasons because you're going to be making a financial calculation
38:31
So I never want the money part to to to come into this and it will of course if you privatize that it will
38:37
But god, you got to get people in there who care who have
38:40
You know, if something goes wrong, they're held accountable. I mean nobody is held accountable in government
38:46
you know the the the the airplane that flies into the into the
38:52
Or the helicopter that flies into the airplane in washington dc and everybody dies in that you know
38:58
What do you do you drag the pilot up back from the dead and try them for their crimes and stupidity and yell at them and everything?
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I mean everybody's dead. What are you going to do?
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so
39:08
you know this this is
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All right, so here's an example of this is the reason why I have problems with um
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With
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Just giving a blank check to the government and and saying here. Okay. Here's 12 and a half billion dollars
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Go get something done with it. So what do they get done with that? Well, I'll tell you what they did
39:30
And and it's in it may sound like they did a lot
39:34
But I'm gonna tell you that I don't know I don't I don't really know the ins and outs of this
39:39
But I got I got to think you could do more than with 12 and a half billion dollars
39:43
They replaced 3,346 communication lines
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it's like phone line lines, I don't know lines and
39:54
190 voice switches
39:56
Okay
39:58
For 12,000 million dollars. That's you you fixed 190 voice switches and
40:03
3,300 communication lines. I mean communication lines
40:06
I think this is what they were talking about when they said it was the the copper telephone lines
40:13
Dude if we're using copper
40:14
Why don't we just put pay phones in the air traffic control office while we're at it too
40:20
And we can give them a bunch of dimes and they can just pump dimes in there
40:24
Maybe they can call the operator and say operator
40:26
I need to place a collect call to this airplane that's coming in out of the blue
40:29
I mean what in the fuck are we doing here?
40:34
I'm sure the of that 12 and a half billion dollars half of it walked out the door
40:39
But even then how I like to think you could get a lot done with six billion dollars, but what do I know?
40:46
So this is what Sean Duffy says he wants to use the the the the next 20 billion for
40:52
Right, again, I would be okay. He's talking about re re re imagining the architecture and everything like this new design
40:58
Show me what that is first before I authorize the money
41:03
If you just say I need money because then we're going to go out and design it. It's like, well, I don't know about that
41:07
You know, she'd give me an idea. So what does he want? He wants to use the 20 billion dollars for artificial intelligence
41:14
And elaborate. He said well
41:18
We want to integrate that into a new system and then we want it all to be housed in the cloud
41:24
like okay, so now for
41:28
32.5 billion if we add both of these together
41:32
All Sean Duffy has given us his buzzwords. We want to do artificial intelligence and we're going to put it in the cloud
41:39
Everyone goes that sounds good enough for me
41:43
All right. Well, I have follow-up questions
41:46
like
41:47
What happens if something goes wrong with the cloud?
41:50
What happens if something goes wrong?
41:54
With your new system
41:57
Who's going to build the new system?
42:00
Have we tested the new system? When is the new system going to be built?
42:03
When is it going to be ready? When is it going to be debugged? How are we going to roll it out?
42:07
What is the what is the real plan?
42:10
Because if the plan is I need money for artificial intelligence and the cloud that's not a plan
42:16
That's bullshit buzzwords coming from a politician
42:20
secretary of transportation
42:22
Who is the secretary of transportation in a in a country that does not have high speed rail?
42:29
We are 70 years behind the rest of asia in terms of our rail system
42:37
Inexcusable, but hey, at least we started bullshit wars in the middle east, you know
42:45
And and I think okay, so I also
42:48
I'll bring it up now. I think we should have the conversation about circo running
42:54
28 air traffic control towers in the western part of the united states. I don't think this is a good idea
42:59
I've done work on circo on this podcast
43:03
I've got an entire chapter on them in the new octopus of population control book
43:09
You gotta know who circo is
43:12
They're like the hybrid government in the uk and they used to be in charge of 64 airports in in the us a few years ago, so
43:23
They're now down to 28 and they're mostly
43:26
In the western part of the united states
43:28
outsourcing air traffic controlling to circo
43:32
is like
43:34
um
43:35
Well, I mean to say it's a bad idea is an understatement it'd be like
43:40
Oh boy, what's an example of this?
43:43
There's such a criminal enterprise that has been busted
43:48
So many it's like, I don't know. It's like the equivalent of letting black rock be in charge of
43:55
Public schools you'd go. Well, why would I do that?
43:58
um
43:59
This is a
44:01
Company that's shown a long track record of destroying everything that they touch and
44:05
Well, yeah, that's what circo does as well
44:07
Circo is the group that is in charge of bringing the migrants into the uk
44:12
They run the boats they run the hovercrafts
44:14
They run once you get through the white cliffs of dover and you you land on on england
44:20
soil english soil they then the groups that put you on the
44:25
Buses
44:26
Or those are circo buses they take you to the train stations that are run by circo
44:29
And then they take you to the houses that are financed and paid for the rental units financed by circo as well
44:35
And so again, no, thank you don't want that company running our air traffic control
44:40
But they have been for the last 20 years
44:43
Private jet owners are a part of this as well. They've now
44:47
Entered the fray
44:49
It's so it turns out that as you might imagine
44:52
Private jet owners are pretty powerful. They've got money
44:56
and
44:56
They don't want to change the current system at all. In fact, I mean
45:01
Yes, it's dangerous and
45:03
And the atc system is is a is a bit of a
45:07
antiquated mess
45:08
But the reason why they like it is because the private jet owners massively benefit
45:14
From consumers paying
45:16
All of the taxes see the consumers pay 98 percent of all of the taxes private jet owners only pay 2 percent
45:23
Right, they pay almost nothing
45:26
um
45:27
That's all they contribute in terms of tax revenue to the to the management of airports is 2 percent
45:34
but they're causing a ton of
45:38
Of problems. I mean the not problems necessarily, but
45:43
They should pay more considering how much they use the system is what I should say
45:49
So they're not using 2 percent of the airports and paying 2 percent for it. They're using
45:54
20 percent of the airports and paying 2 percent for it. So they don't want anything to change
45:59
Because they're being subsidized by everybody else. So the jet in private jet industry has been fighting this as well. So
46:08
Anyway, so that's just one of those things that you you you have to
46:12
consider is that
46:14
There are industries out there that are actively trying to prevent
46:18
The upgrades happening because they know if the upgrades go in and if uh, they spend, you know
46:25
Billions and billions of dollars to reimagine this system. They're going to change the way that
46:30
All the airports and all of the passengers at these airports
46:34
Have to compensate them for this, right? So it's it's going to be reimagined for the private jet owners in in a negative way. So
46:43
Let's talk about this there. Let's let's kind of wrap up with this
46:46
Take a wild guess
46:49
What the best way to board
46:52
An aircraft is okay, and and this is the airplane we're using right?
46:56
We're not going to get hung up in like 787s and things like that
46:59
This is going to be like like a traditional 720 or 737 that's got a uh one main aisle and three seats on each side
47:08
right, so
47:10
What do you think is the fastest method and they've tried a lot right and and so you've got
47:16
You can do
47:17
How southwest did it which is just straight up open seating? No reservations on any seat
47:24
um
47:25
Ready set go
47:26
Right, we just open you up your a b or c gate. They've changed that now, but but they used that that was how it was set up
47:32
There's that right
47:34
There's another way of doing it which is back to front
47:37
Right kind of sounds like it makes sense right everybody who's in the back
47:42
Yeah, every you know if you board people in the front
47:44
There's somebody who's going to take forever to get their stuff up there everybody else is waiting
47:49
If you'd boarded the people in the back first, you know, you could have worked your way up
47:52
But it makes it a little bit more logical up. Oh, but what about front to back?
47:57
I mean after all you have
47:58
First-class passengers they they're up front
48:01
They get boarded first
48:04
They're you know, are you going to change that? I mean that's one of the benefits they
48:09
first-class passengers and vision is is
48:12
Early seating right I personally want to be on the plane last I don't want to be on first, but it doesn't matter
48:18
They perceive that as being on first so front to back back to front
48:23
Free for all what is it?
48:26
Well, have you ever heard of the Stefan method? I guarantee you you haven't up the Stefan method of airplane boarding
48:33
If you are familiar with this you are a true airplane nerd
48:40
Because this method of boarding is absolutely positively genius
48:46
But I have news for you
48:48
It is way too complicated for the average mouth breathing American retard slogging through the airport
48:53
They are never going to figure this out. Okay. I mean
48:58
They just barely got there and their cookie monster pajamas and their 96 ounce
49:03
Starbucks
49:05
milkshake or whatever that is they think they're drinking
49:09
This will kick their ass most assuredly there's almost no
49:14
Possible way you're going to do this in fact
49:16
It helps if you pull up like a video a visual representation of all the dots getting on the airplane
49:23
Right, they'll show you the back to front the front to back and then they'll show you the Stefan method
49:28
Okay, here's how it works again. Good luck to you
49:32
It would it would work if you had smart people
49:35
It would work if this was the only way you had ever boarded a plane in your life and you didn't know any difference
49:41
And you would also have to have maybe a production meeting before you all got on the plane
49:45
Okay, it's a bit it's a bit hard to work out. But let's just say okay passengers board in alternate rows
49:52
Like so row 30 28 26 they all go at once right to prevent congestion
49:58
and then
49:59
The seats that you choose matter. All right. This is another reason why it's not going to work if you're
50:05
a family of three and you've got say a
50:09
Middle an aisle in a window your family of three
50:14
Mom dad and a kid you're all gonna want to get on the plane at the same time, right?
50:18
So it's it's a little impractical
50:20
But however go with me with with this. All right, just remove the practicality from out
50:26
What they're saying is that seats matter your seating in the plane on the plane matters. So
50:32
Not only are we going to do
50:35
Alternate like every other we'll just call it even number rows go 30 28 26 24 22 20
50:43
You guys go but not only that
50:46
windows first
50:48
If you're in these these even numbers
50:51
We board the windows first
50:54
Okay, then the middle seat then the aisle
50:58
It so it looks like if you view it on a map it looks like it's squeezing you to the inside, right?
51:04
So windows middle aisle if you do this and you watch the three
51:10
Versions lined up next to one another with the dots and they they show how the dots enter the dots representing people
51:17
Finding their seats and they show if you do it this way it it's almost 20 minutes faster. It's insane how much faster it is
51:26
But you're never really going to be able to get that
51:30
Simply because I don't think I don't think you can coordinate people
51:35
To do it, but here's a here's a fun fact
51:40
Random so so if you ask the question of which is faster the
51:45
Boarding back to front front to back or just random. Good luck to you
51:50
We're just gonna let you all in, you know the first 75 people that showed up in whatever order you go and pick random seats
51:59
Random free
52:01
free-for-all boarding that that sort of
52:04
method
52:06
With the sign seats so so you have to have assigned seats on the on the sir can't be southwest, right?
52:12
You have to have assigned seats
52:13
But they're not going to put you in any sort of necessary boarding group one or front to back or anything like that
52:18
If they just randomly put you out there and you go and found your assigned seats
52:25
It is
52:27
The fastest method
52:28
It's not faster than the stuff in method
52:30
But it's faster than the back to front or front to back
52:33
Just the randomly let people find their seats and the reason is because it naturally spaces people out to avoid group blockage
52:42
That's it. I mean I geeked out on this. I went and did like a full deep dive on how you get on and off the plane
52:49
amazing
52:50
it's it's uh
52:52
You know, it's but it's tough. It's tough to run that without breaking up families, you know
52:56
For 15 minutes or so, which isn't practical. I mean they'll all eventually get seated next to each other
53:00
in the end
53:02
But imagine if like your six-year-old daughter is like on the window seat. It's it's you know, it
53:07
It's not practical
53:09
To do this, but but just so you know, there have been great
53:15
Uh advances in how you get in and off of the airplane
53:18
And if you recall back in the the the 727 days, you know that the jeffrey eppstein lowlita express one of the
53:26
Interesting components of those airplanes is that they have a rear deploying staircase
53:30
So you could go out the back of that airplane through the galley and then down these staircases
53:35
You don't really do that too too much these days
53:38
But that was the beauty of those
53:42
Boeing 727s that the that the the cia like so much
53:46
Was because they had the s shaped duct on the tail
53:50
Which put a third engine there and it also moved the engine so that they could
53:55
Lower the staircase mid-flight
53:58
And as long as they were below 10,000 feet they could deploy this the rear staircase without
54:04
depressurizing the cabin and of course jeffrey eppstein
54:09
Donald trump and peter nighard all had 727 airplanes
54:15
And if you're familiar with air america and southern air air transport
54:21
The cia's airport that was later bought by less wexner and jeffrey eppstein
54:25
The reason they used the planes that they used was because they had those rear deploying staircases that they could
54:31
Open mid-flight and throw people out of or drugs out of or weapons out of or whatever they wanted to do so
54:37
Anyway, so there are different ways in which you could get off get on or get off these airplanes, but
54:43
But that's not going to change. I don't think it's going to change anytime soon
54:48
I think they make a lot of money selling early boarding and
54:51
so the
54:53
this model isn't going to happen unless
54:55
You know unless it's on air sweden or some high iq population that can figure it all out
55:01
But but this isn't going to be don't look for this the steffen method of ceding on uganda airlines
55:07
It's not going to be happening anytime soon
55:11
So I don't know just remember what sam always says they don't want you flying
55:16
And and and as I say flying frontier is like fight club. Nobody talks about it. And if it's your first time
55:22
You have to fight
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