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How Does Your Pet Perceive the World Around Us with Dr. Greer or Checkout Veterinary · Ask The Experts

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Speaker 1: Eight thirty six thirteen ten WIBA. The doctor is in
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Speaker 1: doctor Marty Greer, recognized as Veteran Veterinarian of the Year
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Speaker 1: doctor Greer, did I am I seeing this right? Am
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Speaker 1: I love how And we're actually going to talk about
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Speaker 1: dot com. The clinic. It is so easy to get to.
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Speaker 1: I got one fifty one and and it's right in
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Speaker 1: that area. It's very convenient to get to. And Doctor
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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you this week a couple
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Speaker 1: of things, and we'll get to those in just a moment.
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Speaker 1: Big thing though, this week, is we're gonna start taking
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Speaker 1: calls and questions. And obviously we've got a number of
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Speaker 1: pet owners that listen to the program and oftentimes have
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Speaker 1: questions about some of the things going on with their pets.
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Speaker 1: And it's a great opportunity. If you've got a question
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Speaker 1: for doctor Greer, we'd love to have you get on
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Speaker 1: the air this morning. All I got to do is
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Speaker 1: pick a phone dial and six oh eight three two
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Speaker 1: one thirteen ten. That's six oh eight three two one
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Speaker 1: thirteen ten. If you've got a question about your pet,
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Speaker 1: the phone lines are open for you right now to
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Speaker 1: talk with doctor Greer too about some great pet resources
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Speaker 1: out there. But first, doctor I thought it would be
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Speaker 1: interesting to talk about how the pets set. You know,
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Speaker 1: how your pet senses the world. And I thought about
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Speaker 1: this yesterday. Is I'm sitting on the couch with my
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Speaker 1: dog and the fat X guy pulls up out front
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Speaker 1: and just sits there, doesn't get out of the car,
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Speaker 1: doesn't move. I don't know how my dog knows that
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Speaker 1: they're out there, but he's well aware and making it
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Speaker 1: very clear there's somebody sitting outside our house. Let's talk
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Speaker 1: a little bit about Obviously, pets do perceive the world
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Speaker 1: different ways. They have obviously some significant strengths over humans.
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Speaker 1: They do perceive the world quite differently, don't they.
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Speaker 2: They do. Their sense of smell is really good. Their
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Speaker 2: vision in the dark until they start to age is excellent,
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Speaker 2: so they definitely hear and see things that we don't.
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Speaker 2: I have people all the time that say, oh, he
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Speaker 2: barks in the middle of the night at nothing. Oh no, no,
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure there's something there. I just think you
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Speaker 2: can't see it, hear it, or smell it, so you're
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Speaker 2: not really aware of it. The other thing I think
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Speaker 2: that's really interesting about your experience is Number one, the
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Speaker 2: FedEx driver probably comes at a fairly similar time every
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Speaker 2: day based on their route, so they probably the dog
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Speaker 2: probably has it sort of built into their schedule that
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Speaker 2: they will need to be watching. And then of course
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Speaker 2: they bark when the truck pulls in, and they're very
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Speaker 2: successful because when they bark, the truck pulls away, and
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Speaker 2: so they very successfully fend it off that intruder, and
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Speaker 2: so they feel brave. Every day, they feel a little
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Speaker 2: braver and a little braver. So you're a little bitty
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Speaker 2: dog just scared off that big truck with the big
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Speaker 2: driver in it. And I think that's really kind of funny.
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Speaker 2: We have to look at it from that perspective to
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Speaker 2: really understand what they're thinking. And it's hard to completely
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Speaker 2: think like a dog, but you have to kind of
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Speaker 2: put yourself in their shoes.
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Speaker 1: What about when it comes to things like I think
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Speaker 1: of two is taste and dogs are very and we'll
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Speaker 1: get I think we'll break down cats too, because I
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Speaker 1: think all these areas Cats have a very fascinating worldview
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Speaker 1: as well. But kind of the taste dogs seem to
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Speaker 1: some bre and some dogs in particular seem to have
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Speaker 1: you know, they're pretty much open at anythings if it
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Speaker 1: fits its ships kind of thing is whereas some dogs
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Speaker 1: are a little finicky, but they do have their tastes
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Speaker 1: are a little bit different from humans, aren't.
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Speaker 2: They right, And it's hard to know exactly because not
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Speaker 2: every dog likes everything. I went to a dog camp
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Speaker 2: many years ago for a couple of summers with Patricia McConnell,
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Speaker 2: who used to be at dog's best friend, and we
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Speaker 2: would have a contest of what would your dog eat?
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Speaker 2: So they would take a paper plate and put all
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Speaker 2: kinds of really weird things from the cafeteria. It was
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Speaker 2: a kid's camp. We'd put pickles and olives and you know,
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Speaker 2: all kinds of strange things onto the plate, fruits and vegetables,
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Speaker 2: everything that was safe, of course, And it was really
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Speaker 2: interesting because some dogs literally would mow through everything and
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Speaker 2: other dogs would be like ew no. So we don't
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Speaker 2: really know exactly what every dog's preference is going to be.
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Speaker 2: The other thing that's tricky is when you're trying to
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Speaker 2: medicate them very quickly. If they bite into something that's bitter,
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Speaker 2: like a capsule of antibiotics, they're going to then make
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Speaker 2: a very strong negative association with that food. So we
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Speaker 2: have to be incredibly careful with how we medicate our pets,
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Speaker 2: how we get those sneaky little meds into them, And
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Speaker 2: so there's some thing, some kind of tricks that you
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Speaker 2: can do. Of course, everybody knows peanut butter and liver sausage,
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Speaker 2: but marshmallow cream, spray cheese, cream cheese, you know, there's
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Speaker 2: a lot of things that we can do. And you
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Speaker 2: do have to cover up the taste of things. So
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Speaker 2: if you're using a bitter medication in particular, something like
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Speaker 2: metronitisol or thailand or cephalxen some of them are bitter meds,
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Speaker 2: we have to flavor them so that the pet really
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Speaker 2: gets the medication down without biting into it. So I
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Speaker 2: usually recommend that if you're going to start something new
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Speaker 2: like that, you give them a spoonful or two of
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Speaker 2: it with no pill in it, because the first spoonfill,
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Speaker 2: they're going to look at you like, okay, I've been
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Speaker 2: to the doctor and I know you're trying to pull
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Speaker 2: something off and you're trying to kill me. So no,
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to take that. So the first time
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Speaker 2: you give them marshmallow cream or spray cheese, you want
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Speaker 2: it to be just the tree. And then the second
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Speaker 2: time they're going to take it a little faster. By
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Speaker 2: the third or fourth bite, they're going to be like, Okay,
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Speaker 2: this is pretty good. I'll trust you, and then they'll
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Speaker 2: go put down. Now, cats are different, and there's a
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Speaker 2: lot of discussion that cats don't taste sweet things. I
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Speaker 2: don't know if that's true or not, because I don't
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Speaker 2: really have a way to ask them. But there are
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Speaker 2: definitely cats that if you put a loaf of bread
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Speaker 2: and a doughnut on the plate, they would pick the doughnut.
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Speaker 2: So I have a suspicion that some cats do have
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Speaker 2: the ability to taste sweet. And cats are funny because
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Speaker 2: I think cats fall into two categories, the cats that
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Speaker 2: eat poultry and the cats that eat fish, and those
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Speaker 2: may not cross over. So you may have a cat
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Speaker 2: that has to go onto a prescription food, or you
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Speaker 2: may have to put medication into them, or they're not
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Speaker 2: eating well, and so you have to go to the
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Speaker 2: store and try and find something that they'll eat. So
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Speaker 2: the poultry cats will eat chicken baby food, turkey baby food,
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Speaker 2: turkey or chicken flavored pet food, and the other ones
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Speaker 2: will eat fish. So you can buy tuna or salmon
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Speaker 2: or anchovy paste. It comes in a tube. It's a
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Speaker 2: really nice way to medicate a cat that likes fish.
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Speaker 2: It's always in the aisle that has the two and
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Speaker 2: the salmon, the canned the tinned products, and it's either
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Speaker 2: on the very top shelf for the very bottom shelf,
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Speaker 2: because I don't think it sells very well, but for
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Speaker 2: cats it can be a really handy way to medicate.
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Speaker 2: So it's something that if you know your cat when
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Speaker 2: she's young likes fish, start teaching her to eat things
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Speaker 2: like anchovy paste, so that when they get to be
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Speaker 2: twelve years old and diabetic, if you have to start
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Speaker 2: them on medication, you have some way to medicate the
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Speaker 2: cat that you've already kind of out foxed them by
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Speaker 2: teaching them those things when they're young and periodically doing it.
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Speaker 2: I mean a can of it, a tube of anchovy
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Speaker 2: paste is like four dollars. So you know, we're not
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Speaker 2: talking a big investment here, not.
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Speaker 1: A big break wall upbreaker this morning, as we talked
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Speaker 1: this morning with doctor Marty Greer. Of course, doctor Greer
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Speaker 1: comes to us from Checkout Veterinary the website check out
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Speaker 1: vet dot com. That's checkout vet dot com. If you've
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Speaker 1: got a question for the vet Love to have you
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Speaker 1: join us this morning. All you got to do is
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Speaker 1: pick a phone gifts call six so oh eight three
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Speaker 1: two one thirteen ten. That's six's soh eight three two
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Speaker 1: one thirteen ten. We'll get you right on the air
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Speaker 1: with doctor Marty Career. Let's talk about vision. And I've
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Speaker 1: seen videos of folks sharing online with dogs, for example,
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Speaker 1: as say age, get cataracts or other things in their vision.
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Speaker 1: Some of them are quite impaired when it comes to
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Speaker 1: visually impaired, still able to kind of get around.
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Speaker 3: Do dogs use their.
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Speaker 1: Eyesight as much as maybe other senses or as much
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Speaker 1: as humans, or how does that work? They just are
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Speaker 1: we just underestimating their ability to kind of remember or
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Speaker 1: layouts and spatial things.
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Speaker 2: No, they're very visual. I think they have a hard
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Speaker 2: time with depth perception. I think sometimes going down a
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Speaker 2: flight of stairs can be a little startling to them.
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Speaker 2: When they're young, they haven't learned that depth perception. But
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Speaker 2: they're very, very visual. They can see things at a
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Speaker 2: distance that we can't. Now, there are some dogs that
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Speaker 2: are near sighted and some dogs that are far sighted,
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Speaker 2: and nobody really thinks about that. And of course we
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Speaker 2: don't have corrective lenses for them, but we'll see a
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Speaker 2: lot of dogs that are labrador's, Golden retriever's, field trial,
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Speaker 2: hunt test, hunting kind of dogs. I have clients come
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Speaker 2: in and say, well, she doesn't have much talent. I'll
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Speaker 2: be like, you know, she's probably really talented because genetically
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Speaker 2: she's pretty good, but I suspect she doesn't see the
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Speaker 2: market five hundred yards. Have you ever thought about the
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Speaker 2: possibility she's near sighted? And they're like, I have no
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Speaker 2: idea that that could even happen. So doctor Chris Murphy
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Speaker 2: at the Vet School in Madison a number of years ago,
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Speaker 2: actually was able to test this. He went out to
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Speaker 2: one of my clients' facilities, built a tower and they
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Speaker 2: were able to test that dogs were near sighted and
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Speaker 2: far sighted. And believe it or not, you can if
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Speaker 2: you have a veterinary epthymologist that's a really good one.
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Speaker 2: They can predict by looking in your dog's eye at
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Speaker 2: a dilated pupil eye exam if the dog is near
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Speaker 2: sighted or far sighted. So that's kind of useful. But
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Speaker 2: a lot of dogs, as they lose their vision as
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Speaker 2: a age, they are very adept at memorizing their surroundings,
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Speaker 2: and so we'll have people come in and say she
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Speaker 2: just suddenly went blind, and in reality it was probably
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Speaker 2: a very slow progressive disease that caused the blindness. But
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Speaker 2: you didn't really notice it because the dog was really
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Speaker 2: good at hiding it because their memory is good, and
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Speaker 2: until you put up the Christmas tree, or leave a
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Speaker 2: box of Christmas decorations out, or you know, don't push
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Speaker 2: the chair in from the table, and they're accustomed to
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Speaker 2: having that memorized, you don't really notice. My son had
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Speaker 2: a Corgie that lived to be nearly sixteen and was
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Speaker 2: visually impaired from about age seven on. So lived seven
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Speaker 2: years with visual impairments. Finally, at the very end, completely
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Speaker 2: lost his vision. But he was incredibly talented. He'd go
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Speaker 2: into the ophthalmologists and they'd say he's blind, and Carl
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Speaker 2: would say, no, no, he's not. He'd roll a ball
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Speaker 2: across the floor, he'd run over and pick it up.
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Speaker 2: So dogs can fake it really well, so they can
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Speaker 2: surprise us.
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Speaker 1: And when you were as a vet, when you're looking
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Speaker 1: at a dog's eyes, you know, looking in there obviously
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Speaker 1: signs of cataracts. All the things you can notice those
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Speaker 1: type of things are are cats. Cats see, and my
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Speaker 1: naivete is odd dogs, don't you know. I just I
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Speaker 1: don't have this this mental And I thank you for explaining,
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Speaker 1: because I never thought too much of dog's vision and
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize how important it was. What about with cat? Cats,
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Speaker 1: on the other hand, I always think have got to
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Speaker 1: have just stellar vision?
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Speaker 3: Are they? Is that true?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're pretty good and they hardly ever develop cataracts
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Speaker 2: and some of the other retinal and eye diseases that
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Speaker 2: we see in dogs. They have their own sets, but
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Speaker 2: they tend not to go blind as they age, and
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Speaker 2: they tend not to lose their hearing as much as
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Speaker 2: they age as dogs do, So those are definitely differences.
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Speaker 2: For instance, diabetic dogs, almost all of them, if they're diabetic,
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Speaker 2: will lose their vision because of cataracts. Cats. We still
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Speaker 2: see diabetic cats, but they rarely become blind because of cataracts,
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Speaker 2: So there's definitely differences. Cats are not small dogs and
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Speaker 2: dogs are not big cats. They're completely different species, and
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Speaker 2: as veterinarians and owners, we really need to tease that
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Speaker 2: apart so that we're not lumping everybody into the same category.
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Speaker 1: Somebody once said to me, a fox as a canine
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Speaker 1: with cat software.
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Speaker 4: That's funny.
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Speaker 2: That's really good. That's a good way to put it.
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Speaker 1: As we talked this morning with doctor Marty Grew talking
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Speaker 1: about some of the senses and sensory things when it
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Speaker 1: comes to pets, how they interpret the world around them.
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Speaker 3: Fascinating stuff. Don't forget.
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Speaker 1: Also, if you've got a question for the doctor, phone
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Speaker 1: sense thing, we didn't talk too much about touch and
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Speaker 1: I know obviously dogs don't have hands. Cats don't have
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Speaker 1: hands either, but I do know like dogs do tend
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Speaker 1: to use they don't have thumbs. That's okay, yeah, I
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Speaker 1: pardon me, they do have, but but they they like
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Speaker 1: I think with with dogs when it comes to kind
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Speaker 1: of touching and interpreting thing.
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Speaker 3: They use their mouth for a lot of things, don't they.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know there are toddlers. Everything goes in
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Speaker 2: the mouth, and so we do have to be really
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Speaker 2: aware of that and cautious when we're leaving things around
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Speaker 2: the house. If you're old enough to remember the Odd
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Speaker 2: Couple TV show, there used to be a dog trainer
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Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. Maybe she's still there, and she would say,
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Speaker 2: when you get a new puppy, you need to have
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Speaker 2: Felix's apartment, not oscars, because if you leave stuff everywhere,
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Speaker 2: the puppy's going to find it and they're going to
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Speaker 2: get into a lot of trouble. So definitely, they use
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Speaker 2: their mouths a lot. They like to chew on things.
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Speaker 2: Some dogs will swallow things, and we see a fair
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Speaker 2: number of dogs that ingest foreign bodies, things that they
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Speaker 2: shouldn't and some of you know, if they eat toilet paper,
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Speaker 2: it's okay, it's going to come through. But if they
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Speaker 2: the TV remote or your cell phone or you know,
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Speaker 2: a raizor We've had dogs eat unbelievable things floral wire
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Speaker 2: and light bulbs, it doesn't go well. So you want
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Speaker 2: to be careful what you leave around. You want to
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Speaker 2: be careful with the trash can that you keep it
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Speaker 2: covered and secure. Dogs will get into all kinds of things.
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Speaker 3: What arek with with cats?
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Speaker 1: And I sometimes wonder about like kind of like rubbing
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Speaker 1: up things, like I know with my cat, like like
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Speaker 1: she just loves like if you can scratch the lower
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Speaker 1: part of her chin and she will rub.
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Speaker 3: That's contact. What are they looking for there?
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Speaker 2: That's scent marking. Oh really, yes, she is marking you
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Speaker 2: to be hers forever. Yes, so the chin does have
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Speaker 2: scent markers in it. And you'll see cats go on
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Speaker 2: the itches of cupboards and couches and things like that.
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Speaker 2: So yes, that's definitely a way that they're marking. It's
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Speaker 2: not just that it feels good, but they're actually leaving
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Speaker 2: their scent so that another cat knows we were We
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Speaker 2: were traveling and saw some big cats and they sent
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Speaker 2: mark too.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, we should.
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Speaker 1: Mention you had a chance to well, we'll talk maybe
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Speaker 1: time there, so we'll talk about that because that's a
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Speaker 4: Hi, doctor, I live on a farm. I've lived out
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Speaker 4: here for a long time, and I've never really been
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Speaker 4: a cat lover, but I've always had, you know, cats
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Speaker 4: in the barn and over the years, you know, I
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Speaker 4: get so many stories. And anyway, I started feeding them
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Speaker 4: because can't foods so expensive and you get those you know,
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Speaker 4: raccoons come in and enter drim or something and the possums,
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Speaker 4: and so they liked the cat food too, and I
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Speaker 4: was I started making well, I had a lab golden
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Speaker 4: crossed dogs for thirteen years, and so I started making oatmeal.
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Speaker 4: Now I was just asking you what should what food
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Speaker 4: shouldn't cat have, Well, they're human food more.
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Speaker 2: I mean, sure, most most of the fuman foods are
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Speaker 2: fine for cats. The problem is that cats are touringe dependent.
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Speaker 2: Touring is one of the amino acids that we see
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Speaker 2: in a lot of the meat products, dark meat, chicken,
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Speaker 2: things like that. And unless a cat gets adequate amounts
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Speaker 2: of touring in their diet, they will not only develop
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Speaker 2: heart problems cardioiopathy, but also vision problems. They can lose
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Speaker 2: their vision from it. So I'm assuming if you're feeding
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Speaker 2: the cats that they're also getting cat food or they're
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Speaker 2: eating something else.
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Speaker 4: They get dry cats food. I know well, and I
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Speaker 4: do buy some canned food good adds. I usually make
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Speaker 4: oatmeal with like chicken broth and the water, and it
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Speaker 4: feeds a lot of cats, I mean, you know what
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Speaker 4: I mean. I'm mean I use maybe three quarters of
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Speaker 4: a cup or a couple of you know, meal, and
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Speaker 4: then I will I'll shave broccoli crown, you know, and
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Speaker 4: put in while the oat meal is cooking, just off
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Speaker 4: on it. Because you know, I think about the winter
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Speaker 4: time mainly is you know, when they're not getting any gleaned.
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Speaker 2: Sure, and you know those none of those things are
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Speaker 2: going to hurt the cat. But it is important to
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Speaker 2: know that even just dog food alone will not have
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Speaker 2: enough touring in it for cats. So cats are very
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Speaker 2: touring dependent. Dogs we don't think are quite as dependent,
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Speaker 2: but cats are definitely touring dependent. And that's an amino
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Speaker 2: acid that is considered essential for cats, so cat food
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Speaker 2: really does have to have that. In fact, Paul Pion,
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Speaker 2: who discovered or developed VIN the Veterinary Information Network, is
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Speaker 2: the veterinarian back in the late eighties that determined that
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Speaker 2: cardio myopathy heart diseasing cats was caused by a touring deficiency.
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Speaker 2: We've known for years that cats needed it for their vision,
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Speaker 2: but he discovered it for hearts as well. So it
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Speaker 2: has to be at a high enough level that they
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Speaker 2: don't develop cardio myopathy. And now that that's been added
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Speaker 2: to food and higher levels as veterinarians, we rarely see
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Speaker 2: cardio myopathies anymore. So for the younger veterinarians, they don't
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Speaker 2: really understand how bad it used to be in practice
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Speaker 2: when we would have cats come in with these heart diseases.
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Speaker 2: So you know, as long as the cats are getting
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Speaker 2: something else, they're probably okay. But you want to be
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Speaker 2: really thoughtful about the tourine for the cats.
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Speaker 1: So really good question. And I've got to guess they're
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Speaker 1: outside cats. There's probably a road in or two.
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming that there's a little mouse in their diet
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Speaker 2: every now and then.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oatmeal.
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Speaker 1: By the way, I had never heard that a cat
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Speaker 1: will if you had some little chicken, they might fascinating stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, cats are interesting. You know, they'll eat pumpkin, They'll
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Speaker 2: eat all kinds of weird stuff that you wouldn't really
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Speaker 2: expect them to. We always think of them as being
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Speaker 2: carnivores that they want chicken or fish or mouse, but
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Speaker 2: they will eat other things as well. And it's kind
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Speaker 2: of fun to see your cat eat doritos, for instance,
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Speaker 2: not a recommended regular diet, but it's kind of interesting
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Speaker 2: to see what cats will partake in cats.
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