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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'd rather really shoot as high as I can and
- 0:02Speaker 1: if I'm miss then dang, I really want for it
- 0:05Speaker 1: instead of being too afraid to set a goal in
- 0:07Speaker 1: the first place.
- 0:22Speaker 2: What is going on Hurdler's Emily A Badi here. You
- 0:26Speaker 2: are listening to a special limited series here on Hurdle
- 0:30Speaker 2: called Going for It. It's a monumental time for women
- 0:34Speaker 2: in sport, as more and more eyes are rightfully paying
- 0:37Speaker 2: attention to her in pursuit of what lights her on fire.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Leading up to Paris, I'm bringing conversations to the forefront
- 0:45Speaker 2: from women who will be involved in this year's Games,
- 0:48Speaker 2: from athletes to journalists and even.
- 0:51Speaker 3: Your favorite peloton instructor.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Kicking things off with a quicker conversation I had the
- 0:57Speaker 2: honor of having with Reagan Smith, who may the headlines
- 1:00Speaker 2: during the trials in June, which she set a new
- 1:03Speaker 2: world record for the one hundred meter backstrode, qualifying for her
- 1:07Speaker 2: second Olympic Games. If you love the series this week,
- 1:11Speaker 2: including the five back to back episodes, then make sure
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- 1:25Speaker 2: Of course, hurdles over on social at Hurdle Podcast. I
- 1:28Speaker 2: am over at Emily a body and keeping it short
- 1:31Speaker 2: and sweet with that, Let's get into it, let's get
- 1:34Speaker 2: to hurdle it. Today, I am sitting down with Reagan Smith.
- 1:44Speaker 2: She is an Olympic swimmer. How we doing today, Reagan.
- 1:48Speaker 1: I'm doing great. I'm so excited to be here. Thank
- 1:51Speaker 1: you for having me, Emily.
- 1:52Speaker 3: I am geeked to have you here.
- 1:54Speaker 2: You're going to be helping me kick off a nice
- 1:57Speaker 2: amount of coverage leading up to the big moment in Paris.
- 2:00Speaker 2: So I have to start with the question, how are
- 2:04Speaker 2: you feeling really right now?
- 2:07Speaker 1: I'm feeling pretty good, which I know is a very
- 2:10Speaker 1: like vague answer. I feel like everyone gives something like that,
- 2:13Speaker 1: but truthfully, I just came off of our nine day
- 2:17Speaker 1: Olympic trial's meat and so I was very exhausted for
- 2:21Speaker 1: like three or four days. But now we're, gosh, we're
- 2:24Speaker 1: like four or five days removed from that now, so
- 2:26Speaker 1: I'm starting to like be back on the come up,
- 2:28Speaker 1: getting back into the swing of things with training, and
- 2:31Speaker 1: I'm just so excited to like get Olympics in full
- 2:35Speaker 1: swing and get into that sort of routine. So I
- 2:38Speaker 1: just feel like all the anticipation building and I'm really.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Excited anticipation building, and this isn't your first rodeo, but
- 2:44Speaker 2: it's kind of the first rodeo. I feel like everyone
- 2:46Speaker 2: says Tokyo fun times, glad we did it, but this
- 2:52Speaker 2: is going to be the real deal.
- 2:54Speaker 1: Yes, you're so right. So when I was in Tokyo,
- 2:56Speaker 1: all of the other swimming veterans who had been to
- 2:59Speaker 1: Rio or to London, they were all like, this is
- 3:02Speaker 1: unlike anything I've ever seen in my life, Like, I
- 3:05Speaker 1: hope that you qualify for another Olympics, that you can
- 3:08Speaker 1: see what it's truly all about, because the Tokyo Games
- 3:11Speaker 1: like just isn't everything that the Olympics really actually has
- 3:16Speaker 1: to offer. And so you're right, I feel like it
- 3:19Speaker 1: kind of will be my first rodeo in a way,
- 3:20Speaker 1: because I think things are gonna be totally in full
- 3:23Speaker 1: force because it hasn't been a real Games, i'd say,
- 3:28Speaker 1: in eight years, so I think people are gonna pull
- 3:30Speaker 1: out all the stops and I can't wait to be
- 3:32Speaker 1: a part of it.
- 3:33Speaker 2: All the stops and there's just so much going on
- 3:36Speaker 2: right now for you, first and foremost, the most important
- 3:39Speaker 2: thing the new world record, not your first rodeo again.
- 3:43Speaker 3: But does it get any different? Does the excitement feel
- 3:46Speaker 3: the same.
- 3:48Speaker 1: It's very different this time around. Actually. So the first
- 3:51Speaker 1: time that I broke a world record, I was seventeen
- 3:53Speaker 1: years old and now I'm twenty two, so I'm five
- 3:56Speaker 1: years older. I have a lot more experience under my belt,
- 3:58Speaker 1: and I'm in a much different stage in my life.
- 4:01Speaker 1: And when I was seventeen, I didn't think that I
- 4:04Speaker 1: was at that level yet, and so I just felt
- 4:07Speaker 1: so much shock and disbelief and I was just like
- 4:11Speaker 1: over the moon, like could could not believe it. And
- 4:14Speaker 1: now I'm very proud to say that I'm in a
- 4:16Speaker 1: place in my life where I'm like, yeah, I am
- 4:19Speaker 1: capable of that. So I'm incredibly proud, but it's less
- 4:22Speaker 1: shock and like, oh my gosh, I just did that
- 4:25Speaker 1: to like, yes, I did that again, Like how amazing
- 4:28Speaker 1: is this? So it's a very cool thing to compare
- 4:30Speaker 1: the feelings five years apart. But regardless, like I'm still
- 4:35Speaker 1: very ecstatic, but handling it in a different way. For sure.
- 4:38Speaker 3: Did you feel this one coming?
- 4:40Speaker 1: I truthfully didn't. I thought that I could do something
- 4:44Speaker 1: pretty special, but I didn't know if it would be
- 4:47Speaker 1: in world record time, let alone a world record by
- 4:49Speaker 1: two tenths of a second, which is swimming is a
- 4:52Speaker 1: considerable margin. And yeah, doing it at Olympic trials as well.
- 4:58Speaker 1: So honestly, no, oh, I could not see it coming,
- 5:03Speaker 1: but I wanted it. So I'm really glad that the
- 5:05Speaker 1: stars aligned and it worked out for me.
- 5:07Speaker 3: Of course you wanted it. I love that for you.
- 5:09Speaker 2: And is there anything specific that you would attribute these
- 5:15Speaker 2: times to or do you feel like it's a perfect
- 5:19Speaker 2: storm of training, of recovery, of support of so many things.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say everything that you mentioned. I think I've
- 5:28Speaker 1: just really been on top of my game with training
- 5:31Speaker 1: and feeling confident mentally and having great support from my
- 5:34Speaker 1: family and my friends and my teammates. And I think
- 5:37Speaker 1: I'm under a different coach now than I was five
- 5:39Speaker 1: years ago when I broke the world records the last time.
- 5:41Speaker 1: Both of those coaches are so incredibly amazing and gifted
- 5:44Speaker 1: in their own right, and I think my current coach, Bob,
- 5:48Speaker 1: he has instilled so much confidence in me and mental
- 5:52Speaker 1: toughness and the training partners that I'm with every day.
- 5:56Speaker 1: They're primarily males. I think that has helped my confidence
- 6:01Speaker 1: skyrocket as well. It's just a different vibe when you're
- 6:03Speaker 1: training with men, and that was something that I didn't
- 6:05Speaker 1: have before when I was a kid growing up and
- 6:08Speaker 1: when I got those the first time. So for those
- 6:10Speaker 1: two factors, my coaches and my training group definitely contributed
- 6:14Speaker 1: to my success this time around.
- 6:16Speaker 2: Super interesting that note about male training partners. Why do
- 6:19Speaker 2: you think that is?
- 6:19Speaker 1: It's super interesting. I definitely think it's person dependent, right
- 6:23Speaker 1: because I spent a year at Stanford on all women's team,
- 6:27Speaker 1: and I think it was a great experience and it
- 6:29Speaker 1: taught me a lot. And so many of the girls
- 6:31Speaker 1: on the team that was like their bread and butter.
- 6:34Speaker 1: That was what they needed, That was the environment that
- 6:36Speaker 1: they needed to be surrounded in. But for me, I
- 6:39Speaker 1: feel like I can kind of live in my head
- 6:43Speaker 1: a little bit, and as an athlete, we know that,
- 6:46Speaker 1: you know, the mental side is just as important as
- 6:48Speaker 1: the physical side, if not more important. And I think
- 6:52Speaker 1: I really needed as a woman to be surrounded by
- 6:56Speaker 1: people who kind of just like, I don't want to say,
- 7:00Speaker 1: don't care, but are so good at not living between
- 7:05Speaker 1: their ears. If you know what I mean. And I
- 7:07Speaker 1: don't want to stereotype women because because you know, I'm
- 7:10Speaker 1: a woman myself and I have so much female pride
- 7:12Speaker 1: and power. But I think it can be easy for
- 7:15Speaker 1: us to really get in our heads and overthink things,
- 7:19Speaker 1: and I'm so guilty of that, and I've been so
- 7:21Speaker 1: guilty of that, and so I think for me personally,
- 7:24Speaker 1: being with men and training with men who are just
- 7:27Speaker 1: able to dumb the sport down and be like, I'm
- 7:30Speaker 1: just gonna go out there and rip, I'm not afraid
- 7:31Speaker 1: of anyone. I'm going to see how I can do today,
- 7:34Speaker 1: and like, I'm just not going to overthink it. I
- 7:36Speaker 1: thought that was like so eye opening. It was like
- 7:39Speaker 1: they were speaking a different language, and I was like, wow,
- 7:41Speaker 1: I never really realized that it doesn't have to be
- 7:44Speaker 1: that deep, and I can simplify it. And I think
- 7:46Speaker 1: competing got a lot easier when I started to simplify
- 7:50Speaker 1: things and look at them through a logical lens instead
- 7:52Speaker 1: of through an emotional lens. So yeah, very interesting take,
- 7:56Speaker 1: i'd say, because I freaking love women, but I do
- 8:00Speaker 1: think I have learned a lot from my male counterparts
- 8:03Speaker 1: in that department, specifically.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I've listened to you speak before, and you
- 8:07Speaker 2: talked about the difficulties that came with the mental side
- 8:10Speaker 2: of things and the expectations after you broke that first
- 8:13Speaker 2: world record. So now do you feel as though, with
- 8:17Speaker 2: these new training partners and perhaps the work that you've
- 8:21Speaker 2: done on yourself mentally, that you're able to manage that
- 8:24Speaker 2: pressure a little bit differently.
- 8:26Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's a great question. Yeah, because ye know when
- 8:28Speaker 1: I broke it the first time, I just immediately was like,
- 8:31Speaker 1: I'm a world record holder now, like I have an
- 8:33Speaker 1: image that I need to obtain. I need to perform
- 8:35Speaker 1: at this level all the time, one hundred percent. Like
- 8:37Speaker 1: what if I'm not capable of being at that level
- 8:39Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the time. Blah blah blah blah
- 8:41Speaker 1: blah x y Z. And now I'm like, okay, Like
- 8:45Speaker 1: I'm a world record holder. I am always going to
- 8:49Speaker 1: be capable of competing at that high of a level.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Because I did it once before. What's stopping me from
- 8:55Speaker 1: doing that again? Sort of an injury knock on wood,
- 8:58Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like that talent doesn't seep
- 9:00Speaker 1: out of your body overnight, like it's it's what you're
- 9:03Speaker 1: born with, it's what you were given. Like that just
- 9:05Speaker 1: doesn't go anywhere, And so I try to look at
- 9:07Speaker 1: it logically like that and remind myself like, Okay, just
- 9:10Speaker 1: because I did it once doesn't mean it has to
- 9:12Speaker 1: follow me like some scary villain behind me. I'd rather
- 9:16Speaker 1: use it as ammo, you know, to keep working hard
- 9:19Speaker 1: and to give me confidence instead of, you know, kind
- 9:22Speaker 1: of making me want to, like, you know, shy away
- 9:24Speaker 1: from the pressure that comes with it.
- 9:26Speaker 2: To that effect, then knowing that you have this kind
- 9:29Speaker 2: of positive mentality in your toolbox, knowing what you're capable of,
- 9:33Speaker 2: what else would you say gives you an edge on
- 9:36Speaker 2: the competition.
- 9:37Speaker 1: I really just think it's it's how far I've come
- 9:40Speaker 1: in that department. I think I'm just really really grateful
- 9:43Speaker 1: that I truly feel like I have it all in
- 9:46Speaker 1: terms of support. I don't mean like, oh, I have
- 9:48Speaker 1: it all personally as an athlete. I just mean the
- 9:51Speaker 1: people that I'm surrounded with all care about me so much,
- 9:54Speaker 1: you know, trainers, coaches, massage therapists, my parents, my friends, family,
- 10:02Speaker 1: the like the food for fuel that I'm exposed to.
- 10:05Speaker 1: I just feel like Team USA is so incredible. At
- 10:08Speaker 1: constantly giving their athletes the best of the best in
- 10:10Speaker 1: all departments, and so going into the summer being a
- 10:13Speaker 1: part of Team USA, I just feel like I have
- 10:17Speaker 1: the possibility and I have everything that I need to
- 10:22Speaker 1: perform even better than I did at Trials, just because of,
- 10:25Speaker 1: you know, what I'm surrounded by and what I have
- 10:27Speaker 1: access to. So I feel incredibly grateful for that.
- 10:30Speaker 3: Better than you performed at trials.
- 10:32Speaker 2: We're talking about how you lowered your own American record
- 10:35Speaker 2: in one hundred meter backstroke to fifty seven forty seven
- 10:38Speaker 2: and then set a world record again in fifty seven thirteen.
- 10:42Speaker 3: So that's pretty that's a pretty good act to follow up.
- 10:46Speaker 1: Absolutely it is. And it's a lofty goal as well, right,
- 10:49Speaker 1: But I don't want to shy away from dreaming big anymore.
- 10:54Speaker 1: And I used to be afraid of vocalizing my goals
- 10:58Speaker 1: and interviews or you know, on social media or things
- 11:00Speaker 1: like that because I was terrified to fail and have
- 11:05Speaker 1: the public know what I was trying to attain. And
- 11:09Speaker 1: now I feel like I am so proud to have
- 11:12Speaker 1: these big goals and have these big dreams that I'm
- 11:15Speaker 1: chasing after and I want, you know, people to kind
- 11:18Speaker 1: of hold me accountable for that and view it as
- 11:20Speaker 1: support and not view it as an expectation. And if
- 11:23Speaker 1: I fall short, it's like, well, shit, I tried. I'm
- 11:27Speaker 1: so proud that I tried, instead of not setting the
- 11:31Speaker 1: bar high in the first place, so I'd rather really
- 11:34Speaker 1: shoot as high as I can and if I miss,
- 11:36Speaker 1: then dang, I really went for it instead of being
- 11:39Speaker 1: too afraid to set a goal in the first place.
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- 13:24Speaker 3: Shoot for the moon and then you land upon the stars.
- 13:27Speaker 3: Isn't that the saying absolutely Yeah?
- 13:31Speaker 2: Well, I also love what you said about the importance
- 13:33Speaker 2: of your nutrition, which, especially in an endurance sport like yours,
- 13:38Speaker 2: is absolutely critical. Talk to me a little bit about
- 13:41Speaker 2: how you make sure that the nutrition that you're putting
- 13:44Speaker 2: into your body ensure is that you can perform your best.
- 13:47Speaker 1: I value nutrition so much, and it's something that I
- 13:51Speaker 1: think I really recently fully began to understand just how
- 13:55Speaker 1: important you know, carbohydrates are before training and for recovery
- 13:59Speaker 1: after training, and protein consumption and getting enough calories to
- 14:03Speaker 1: fuel yourself because we as athletes just go like crazy.
- 14:07Speaker 1: And you also want quality ingredients in what you're consuming too,
- 14:10Speaker 1: because I try to view my body as a machine, right,
- 14:13Speaker 1: and a machine's not gonna run well when you serve
- 14:16Speaker 1: it prop So I really really take it seriously, and
- 14:22Speaker 1: I try to take it really seriously, not only for myself,
- 14:25Speaker 1: but for the people that I take care of in
- 14:27Speaker 1: my life too, and for the things that I take
- 14:28Speaker 1: care of in my life. And honestly, that's part of
- 14:31Speaker 1: why I started feeding my cat rou Nulo, just because
- 14:35Speaker 1: it reminded me a lot of what I had started
- 14:37Speaker 1: to become passionate about with fueling myself and my cat Roof.
- 14:41Speaker 1: She was a sheltered cat and so God knows where
- 14:44Speaker 1: she was at or what she was doing before she
- 14:46Speaker 1: started living with me and being my friend. So Nullo
- 14:51Speaker 1: has made her so unbelievably strong. She's just a little
- 14:54Speaker 1: four pound, scrawny cat when I first got her, and
- 14:57Speaker 1: I know and now she's like, she's so strong looking,
- 15:00Speaker 1: and she's really grown into her body, and her coat's
- 15:03Speaker 1: so silky, and she has so much energy, and so
- 15:06Speaker 1: I've kind of loved watching her like beyond this come
- 15:09Speaker 1: up because I got her in January when I was
- 15:11Speaker 1: actually going through a pretty rough patch myself. I contracted
- 15:14Speaker 1: MONO in December and so I spent like six weeks
- 15:17Speaker 1: just down in the dumps, so unhealthy and sick. And
- 15:21Speaker 1: I adopted her at the end of my bat with
- 15:23Speaker 1: Mono because I really wanted her to kind of be
- 15:26Speaker 1: my emotional support cat, and so it was wonderful for
- 15:30Speaker 1: me to kind of be back on the come up,
- 15:31Speaker 1: getting healthier, getting stronger again while she was doing the
- 15:34Speaker 1: same thing. So it was kind of a special thing
- 15:36Speaker 1: for both of us to go through together.
- 15:39Speaker 2: But Ohrue, Yeah, what a cutie.
- 15:43Speaker 3: That's so sweet.
- 15:44Speaker 2: And you mentioned your sponsor at NULO, and I know
- 15:47Speaker 2: that they also helped get your high school swim coach,
- 15:50Speaker 2: Dan Schneider, the opportunity to watch you compete at the
- 15:54Speaker 2: Olympic Trials.
- 15:54Speaker 3: What did that mean to you?
- 15:56Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much for asking about that. So,
- 15:59Speaker 1: Dan Schneider, he was my high school swim coach in
- 16:02Speaker 1: seventh grade because in Minnesota, you can compete for your
- 16:04Speaker 1: high school seventh through twelfth grade instead of starting in
- 16:07Speaker 1: ninth grade. I don't know, silly rule, but so yeah,
- 16:10Speaker 1: he was my coach when I was twelve years old,
- 16:11Speaker 1: so I was just a baby. And he is one
- 16:14Speaker 1: of the nicest, most genuine men and coach I've ever
- 16:20Speaker 1: had the privilege of being under. And he just loves
- 16:23Speaker 1: what he does. And I don't want to butcher how
- 16:25Speaker 1: many seasons he's been under Lake Full North, but it's
- 16:28Speaker 1: well over thirty and I feel like it was thirty
- 16:32Speaker 1: eight or something this year. But regardless, he's been doing
- 16:34Speaker 1: this for almost twice as long as I've been alive,
- 16:37Speaker 1: and so it's just his passion. He lives, breathes, eat,
- 16:39Speaker 1: sleepsis And I knew that this was going to be
- 16:43Speaker 1: such a special experience for him and he was just
- 16:46Speaker 1: going to be over the moon excited about it because
- 16:48Speaker 1: he just loves swimming from the bottom of his heart
- 16:50Speaker 1: and so swimming in a football stadium was absolutely unreal.
- 16:54Speaker 1: And I just knew that it was going to be
- 16:57Speaker 1: such a spectacle for him to go see and he
- 16:59Speaker 1: was able to bring his daughter and it was just
- 17:03Speaker 1: so amazing because seeing him now, I'm twenty two, so
- 17:06Speaker 1: I was coached by him ten years ago, but seeing him.
- 17:09Speaker 1: It's like no time had gone by at all, and
- 17:11Speaker 1: I kind of felt like a little twelve year old again,
- 17:13Speaker 1: but like in the best way, and it was very,
- 17:16Speaker 1: very special. It really was in.
- 17:18Speaker 3: The best way.
- 17:19Speaker 2: How do you get your mind right in a situation
- 17:22Speaker 2: like this, I mean, you said, swimming in a football
- 17:25Speaker 2: stadium absolutely wild, the lights, the cameras, the pressure, of course,
- 17:30Speaker 2: what's on the line. What do you tell yourself before
- 17:33Speaker 2: a difficult moment, before you know that all the eyes
- 17:36Speaker 2: are on you.
- 17:38Speaker 1: Yeah, great question again. And we had like twenty two
- 17:41Speaker 1: thousand people in the stands who are watching, and that's
- 17:43Speaker 1: not even including you know who is tuning in on
- 17:45Speaker 1: NBC to get that coverage. And I'd say in the past,
- 17:49Speaker 1: I would have just completely crumbled under that pressure, and
- 17:52Speaker 1: I would have been terrified, and I would have had
- 17:54Speaker 1: these voices in my head telling me that I'm not
- 17:56Speaker 1: good enough, that I'm not gonna achieve. But I want achieve,
- 17:58Speaker 1: so what's the point of trying. I was so proud
- 18:01Speaker 1: of myself because this time I felt genuine excitement instead
- 18:05Speaker 1: of anxiety. And I think those two emotions go very
- 18:08Speaker 1: hand in hand in athletics especially, and I always leaned
- 18:13Speaker 1: on the anxious side of things instead of excitement and
- 18:16Speaker 1: adrenaline and like, let's go get it. I always I
- 18:19Speaker 1: was a flight instead of a fight, And so for
- 18:21Speaker 1: this time, I was just like, when is the next
- 18:24Speaker 1: time that I'm going to be competing in front of
- 18:25Speaker 1: twenty two thousand people who are cheering for me? Like
- 18:29Speaker 1: I just remember walking out for my first finals race.
- 18:32Speaker 1: They announced the names one by one, and so when
- 18:35Speaker 1: they announced my name for me to walk out, the
- 18:37Speaker 1: crowd got so loud, and that moved me like so much,
- 18:43Speaker 1: just the fact that that many people were excited to
- 18:45Speaker 1: see me and wanted to see me succeed. It was incredible.
- 18:50Speaker 1: And so I said to myself like, okay, like no
- 18:53Speaker 1: fear here, Like let's put on a show for these people.
- 18:55Speaker 1: Like these people are here to be entertained. How can
- 18:58Speaker 1: I entertain them? And I think that made it a
- 19:00Speaker 1: lot less scary and a lot more fun. So I
- 19:02Speaker 1: was like, these people cheered so loud for me, I
- 19:04Speaker 1: want to hear that again. How can I do that?
- 19:07Speaker 1: Let's perform to our best abilities. So it ended up
- 19:09Speaker 1: being really really fun.
- 19:10Speaker 3: Let's give it all we've got.
- 19:11Speaker 2: What would you say has changed for you, if anything,
- 19:15Speaker 2: since qualifying and setting that next world record, I'm.
- 19:18Speaker 1: Very thankful for this. I feel like nothing's changed, which
- 19:20Speaker 1: is wonderful because I think five years ago when I
- 19:23Speaker 1: did it, it felt like my life changed overnight and
- 19:25Speaker 1: I was viewing myself differently. I think people were treating
- 19:28Speaker 1: me differently. I gained a lot of social media follovers,
- 19:31Speaker 1: which then became really important to me, and I think
- 19:34Speaker 1: that ended up being really bad long term. And so
- 19:37Speaker 1: now I think I'm very glad to say that my
- 19:39Speaker 1: life still feels the same, and I think that is
- 19:41Speaker 1: the key to being consistent and continuing the path of
- 19:44Speaker 1: success that I'm on.
- 19:46Speaker 2: Can you talk a little bit more about that sentiment
- 19:48Speaker 2: that social media became very important to you.
- 19:51Speaker 1: I became really invested and I started to seek validation
- 19:57Speaker 1: over social media. For sure. It was like I I
- 20:00Speaker 1: posted something and it didn't get enough engagement or didn't
- 20:02Speaker 1: get a lot of likes or comments or saves or whatever,
- 20:04Speaker 1: or if I lost followers after posting something, it affected
- 20:08Speaker 1: me so much, and as an eighteen year old, like
- 20:11Speaker 1: that's I feel like when you're at your most vulnerable,
- 20:13Speaker 1: when you're a teenager, like entering adulthood and so it
- 20:15Speaker 1: would take my self esteem like crazy. And so i'd
- 20:19Speaker 1: say during COVID, I learned, like dude, social media is
- 20:22Speaker 1: a highlight reel. I know everyone says that, but it's true.
- 20:25Speaker 1: It's a cliche that it's true, and it's important to
- 20:28Speaker 1: like get your messages out there, share what's important to you,
- 20:31Speaker 1: share things about your life, your story, share sponsored content,
- 20:34Speaker 1: things like that. But I don't want it to be
- 20:36Speaker 1: anything more than that. I just don't want to give
- 20:38Speaker 1: it any more value than it deserves because I just
- 20:40Speaker 1: think that really reflects negatively on my self esteem. So
- 20:43Speaker 1: I love Instagram and TikTok. I'm not on Twitter because
- 20:47Speaker 1: I think that's the most toxic gap in my opinion.
- 20:49Speaker 1: But yeah, I love using those things to share my story,
- 20:52Speaker 1: but I don't want to seek validation from it like
- 20:55Speaker 1: I once did.
- 20:56Speaker 3: You're smart.
- 20:56Speaker 2: I mean, I am not twenty two, But I think
- 21:00Speaker 2: about how I would have navigated having social media around
- 21:04Speaker 2: at twenty two, and I can't even imagine what that
- 21:08Speaker 2: would have done for my self esteem. So to have
- 21:10Speaker 2: that know how to understand what works for you at
- 21:13Speaker 2: this point, I think that's pretty pretty admirable. Now, A
- 21:17Speaker 2: quick transition here to ask you about if you had
- 21:20Speaker 2: to choose one other Olympian, whether it's in the pool
- 21:23Speaker 2: or out of the pool, it can be in any
- 21:25Speaker 2: other sport.
- 21:26Speaker 3: Who would you say you've idolized the most?
- 21:29Speaker 1: Simone Biles, I'd say absolutely ever since twenty sixteen. I
- 21:34Speaker 1: was fourteen years old watching the Olympics that summer, and
- 21:36Speaker 1: I was so enamored by her. So I was like
- 21:40Speaker 1: glued to my TV every time that she was on.
- 21:42Speaker 1: I had to watch. I had not what she was
- 21:44Speaker 1: up to. I loved looking at her social medias all
- 21:46Speaker 1: the time, you know, seeing her amazing life and what
- 21:49Speaker 1: she was getting to do, the thinks that she was accomplishing.
- 21:51Speaker 1: So I adored her and I still do. But that
- 21:55Speaker 1: relationship has changed because I've grown up a lot, so
- 21:57Speaker 1: I look at her in a different lens now than
- 21:59Speaker 1: I used to. I think as fourteen year old, it
- 22:01Speaker 1: was like idolizing, and now I'd say it's just a
- 22:03Speaker 1: very healthy respect that I have for her, especially after
- 22:06Speaker 1: seeing what she did for athletes and mental health at
- 22:09Speaker 1: the Tokyo Games, after what she went through and being
- 22:11Speaker 1: so vocal about it and not being afraid to speak
- 22:13Speaker 1: about it. When she was facing so many negative things
- 22:17Speaker 1: and backlash from the media and from her country, which
- 22:20Speaker 1: I thought was terrible. So I'd say so on for sure.
- 22:23Speaker 2: Okay, Simone Biles, do you have a favorite go to
- 22:26Speaker 2: pump up song?
- 22:28Speaker 3: Oh?
- 22:28Speaker 1: I used to not be a very big music person
- 22:31Speaker 1: before racing. I don't know why. I just wasn't really
- 22:35Speaker 1: into it. But I really recently tried to use songs
- 22:39Speaker 1: to like pump me up because it can really hype
- 22:41Speaker 1: you up and spike your adrenaline and prepare you to
- 22:43Speaker 1: race fast. So I made a playlist right before trials
- 22:47Speaker 1: and I have like Cardi b Meghani, Stallion, Flo, Millie, Amine,
- 22:52Speaker 1: The Baby, Lil Wayne, twenty one Savage. I have Hannah
- 22:55Speaker 1: Montana on there too.
- 22:57Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know a high playlist without Hannah
- 22:59Speaker 2: Montana exactly.
- 23:01Speaker 1: So I love that. I listened to it before almost
- 23:03Speaker 1: all of my races and it got me ready.
- 23:05Speaker 3: So it was I love that. I love that.
- 23:08Speaker 2: And if you had to use one word to summarize
- 23:11Speaker 2: this training block, where would you go with that?
- 23:14Speaker 1: Oh? Gosh, difficult for sure, because we're in the home
- 23:18Speaker 1: stretch now. We already we tapered, rested once for Olympic trials,
- 23:22Speaker 1: and now it's like we're in this last like four
- 23:25Speaker 1: week push before the Olympics begin, and I'm so antsy
- 23:29Speaker 1: and excited for the games to start. I just want
- 23:31Speaker 1: to get there. And so it kind of makes each
- 23:34Speaker 1: and every practice just kind of a bear to get
- 23:36Speaker 1: through because it's hard right now, like we're amping things
- 23:38Speaker 1: way back up in intensity and volume, and so I
- 23:41Speaker 1: got my butt kicked in the pool today at practice,
- 23:44Speaker 1: and I'm sure I will tomorrow, and it's just it's
- 23:46Speaker 1: mentally difficult. But I'm really just trying to remember what
- 23:49Speaker 1: I'm doing it for and it's all going to be
- 23:50Speaker 1: very worth it when we get to Paris.
- 23:52Speaker 2: How does Reagan Smith give back to herself outside of
- 23:55Speaker 2: the pool.
- 23:56Speaker 1: I love reading for pleasure. I love binging Netflix series.
- 24:01Speaker 1: I just I'm halfway through the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders docuseries
- 24:05Speaker 1: and it's so good. But I love reading as well.
- 24:08Speaker 1: I'm in a book club with my sister and my
- 24:10Speaker 1: stepsister and the book this month is called I'm the
- 24:13Speaker 1: Messenger by Marcus. I don't want to butcher his last name,
- 24:16Speaker 1: but he wrote the book Thief, and my stepsister picked
- 24:18Speaker 1: that book, so I've been relaxing outside, actually reading that
- 24:22Speaker 1: book when I'm not swimming. I love being outside too,
- 24:24Speaker 1: so I'll just hang out there. I'll listen to music too.
- 24:26Speaker 1: I love napping. I love hanging out with Rue. I'm
- 24:31Speaker 1: in a hotel room right now, so I'm not with
- 24:32Speaker 1: her and I missed her so much. But my dad
- 24:34Speaker 1: has been sending me lots of content of her, so
- 24:36Speaker 1: I'm getting my fix when i can. But yeah, I
- 24:39Speaker 1: keep things very simple.
- 24:40Speaker 2: There is nothing like pet content to uplift your mood
- 24:43Speaker 2: at the end of a hard dime.
- 24:44Speaker 1: Absolutely, she gets me through anything.
- 24:47Speaker 3: Yeah, difficult is understandable.
- 24:50Speaker 2: But clearly difficult has been something that you're thriving in,
- 24:55Speaker 2: even though that doesn't mean that it doesn't have its
- 24:57Speaker 2: tough moments.
- 24:59Speaker 1: Yes, and I think nothing worth doing is easy. I
- 25:04Speaker 1: welcome this difficult time with open arms.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Well, I'm so excited that we had the chance to
- 25:09Speaker 2: chat today, even if it was just a little bit.
- 25:12Speaker 3: I am amped to root you on in Paris.
- 25:15Speaker 2: I will be there while you're competing, so I'm hoping
- 25:18Speaker 2: to get in and check that out. But for those
- 25:20Speaker 2: that don't follow along with you, just yet, give me
- 25:23Speaker 2: your info. How do they keep up with you on Instagram,
- 25:26Speaker 2: on the socials let us know.
- 25:28Speaker 1: Yeah. So you can find me at Reagan Smith four
- 25:31Speaker 1: on Instagram and Reagan Smith forty on.
- 25:34Speaker 3: TikTok, Reagan Smith four and Reagan Smith forty.
- 25:37Speaker 2: I'm over at Emily a Body and at Hurdle Podcast
- 25:39Speaker 2: Another Hurdle Conquered.
- 25:41Speaker 3: Catch you guys next time.