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Why would you be a Shia??! (Ft Sayed Jawad Elhassan) · After Maghrib 🌙

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Bakken, Bakken, Lakayevna Bibalib has Sparta Maulai,
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Wamola Kulla Mutman, Salaam Alaikum.
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And welcome to your favorite Shia Muslim podcast after
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Maghrib, where we are celebrating, just like millions
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around the world, the joyous occasion of aid Allah Akbar, and
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that is Aiden Khadir. A day on which Islam was
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completed, a day on which Imam Ali Emir Al Mohamanin was
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divinely appointed. And it's around days like this,
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we see a rise, an uptick of anti.
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She had rhetoric around the world.
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Now joining me as always is my amazing brother, my amazing Co
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host, my brother in faith and my brother in Willaya.
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And someone whose eloquence never fails to narrate and
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reiterate the merits of Imam Ali, Emir Al Romanin and his
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father in Islamabad. Have you heard like Islam fly?
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I didn't say I'll. Handle Allah.
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But my voice feels a bit weird. How are you?
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Al Hamdallah. Yeah, I'm OK, I'm OK.
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It's been a beautiful few days. Yes.
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Hamdallah Mubarak, everyone at home, IDL Khadir Mubarak to to
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your families, your loved ones. And may this be a year and an
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occasion where you continue the favile of Miramani and you
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continue to sing his praises to the top of your voices, like
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Said Ali, until you lose your voice.
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And inshallah, that's that's the sign of a believer.
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One of the size of the I believe is Inshallah, when you lose your
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voice, sing in the vicar of Imiral Mahamanen alaihi Salaam.
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But I said with you, you, you've obviously been playing hard
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Hamdallah. I don't know the last few days.
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I. Don't know if that's the right
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sound to use but I have been happy and it happened like this.
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Gives me great joy and it gives me even more joy knowing that we
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are joined by a brother who is Mukhalis who was Mukman and he's
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also a muali of Imam Ali, Emiral Mumanen and before I mention his
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surname, he is Sayed Jawad al Hassan al Hassan Salaam.
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Alaikum how you doing bro? I'm fine.
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Hamdulillah. I'm happy to be here.
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Thank you. For most of me, you know, it's
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been a pleasure and hopefully you have a tracking episode
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today. We are Charlotte indeed.
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By the way, I left that pause for a reason why?
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It's not that I didn't know El Hassan, it's just I wanted maybe
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someone for my because we need. Wash Allah how you doing things
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looking dashing. Wash Allah for the occasion
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it's. As sharp as possible,
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absolutely. As possible, absolutely.
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Have a blessed. Day So for those who probably
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have noticed a bit of a switch up in the set, there's no rug.
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I know someone told me in the past that they had feelings
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about the rug and there might be a bit of an echo.
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So sorry about that. We're kind of switching space at
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the moment. So you will slowly see in the
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next couple of weeks, maybe slight, slight changes.
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If you do spot them, let us know in the comments what changes you
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spot. But for the time being, we're
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still setting up this new studio.
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So Please be patient. And I'm gonna say, Joe, we're
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obviously very happy to have you on.
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For those who don't know you, we want to get to know you kind of
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outside of the actual discussion.
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OK, so. Get ready.
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But to be honest, usually I'll ask you, we'd ask a question,
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you know, what's your favorite food or this or that.
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But today we'll ask maybe something a bit different.
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Yeah, go for. It Of course, the merits of
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Minamamanin are are endless. Stories of for from him are
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endless. The lessons we learn from him
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are endless. But if today, in this moment, if
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there's one moment or story or lesson that you learned from
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Mama Ali and you can today at this moment, say is your
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favorite, what would that be? Oh.
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You're going to be in support here.
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I listen, I would say I learned from Ali is no matter what he
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does, he's always looking to. He's always thinking about every
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step that he does is to please a loss of Hannah with that Allah.
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That level was a man. He's a great component of Imam
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Ali. He said that whatever Imam Ali,
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every step of the night step, I step behind it because why?
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Because I know every step that he does is to please a loss of
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hand with. So that just tells us that every
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minute of our life should give it a loss of hand.
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With Tyler, you know, The thing is people do not understand is
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that life is not just praying, shipping a loss of hand with
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dial, but at the same time is every small thing they do, it
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can be about to the loss of hand with dial from eating to
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sleeping. I'm not saying that or just do
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that and not pray or not. But if you think that these
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things would get you close to the loss of hand with dial and
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you have the right intention, everything can be available to
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the loss without I. Said I couldn't agree more.
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Absolutely it. Reminds me of, you know how you
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mentioned the Mama Ali his entire life was to please a lot.
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And you know, we always mentioned on the podcast what
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Imam Ali, you know, he always saw Allah before, during and
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after every action. So he had God there everywhere.
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And Inshallah, if we take Imam Ali as our Imam, ultimately he's
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emir and Mumanian. That means we have to be more
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than just Muslims. We have to become Mumanian to be
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worthy, inshallah of a Shia, absolutely.
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Yeah, look, so look, there's a few things I think we want to
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get through in today's discussion.
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The first thing, and to be really clear to brothers,
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sisters at home, Eid al Khadir to us as the followers of Imam
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Ali is the greatest aid that Allah has given us.
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That's why I said at the beginning, you said Eid Allah
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Akbar, the greatest aid from Allah spamala to Allah.
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And that is because on this day, as we see in Surat al Maida,
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Allah completed the religion of Islam through the Willa of
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Islam. The revelation of, of Islam was
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brought by the Holy Prophet. He came with the religion and
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middleman completed and preserved the religion.
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And that's so important for us to recognize.
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And that is why we say Imam Ali is the successor, is the Welli
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is the Wasi, and that that natural successor ship in our
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minds is so critical for us. And either Khadir is the
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pinnacle and the most public declaration of Willaya that of
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course we see in the life of the Holy Prophet, Sallallahu alayhi
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Salem. So for those, I think maybe this
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is a good place to start because over the last week or two, we
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have had hate upon hate upon hate from people so-called
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Muslims online who have been cussing us out left, right and
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centre. The number of times we've been
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called kafir or we've been called mushrik, or we've been
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called misguided, or we've been called people who believe in
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myths and Mona 13. And the list is endless.
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We want to put this matter to bed.
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So if that's one of you, keep listening.
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And even if you're someone who's on the receiving end like us,
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then maybe this is a discussion for you.
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But say, Joad, I want to kind of, I'll ask you to kind of kick
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off and begin with where do the Shia put Imam Ali in comparison
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with us, Allah, Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam?
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How do we see them side by side? The Prophet Muhammad, peace be
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upon him, is the greatest. We all know that loss of Hamid
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Ali, the best creation that a loss of Hannah Tallahs has
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created is the Prophet, peace be upon him.
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And the Imam Ali is just a servant to the Prophet.
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So therefore, first on our Prophet and then Imam Ali, of
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course we can't. Yes, we love them both, but the
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Prophet is in a different level, diverse status to Imam Ali Ali.
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Have you ever had someone who says to you that you put
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Emirimal Minion above the prophet?
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Yes, not just Emirimal minion, he said we think that all
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they'll talk Imam that we believe in greater than the
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Prophet, which is not true at all.
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Within the Prophet is the pivotal point that will debate.
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Without the Prophet there's no other debate.
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So how can you tell me that we think Ali debate is better than
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the Prophet? No, of course not.
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I'm sure this is not some form of Tataya.
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No. And that's so, so important
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because every time we say there's no, you guys are doing,
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so this is it. We've got to put them in place.
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Yeah. Because I mean, you say we
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always talk about our sheer identity.
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How important is is your sheer identity too?
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Well, lots of me, it's very important because for me it's
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like a moral compass, like it's a barometer.
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It's like it doesn't allow me to waver.
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Like I know for example, this is the path Allah wants from us.
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This is the path Rasul Allah wants us to hold on to.
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So for me to identify as a Shia, as one of the most proudest
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thing I can say is that I am a Shia Muslim.
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I hope I am and I hope I can claim, inshallah, we can all
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claim to be from the followers of Imam Ali, Emir and Umnin.
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But I don't think we can just just drop it around and say
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yeah, we're Shia. I think that title belongs to
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the likes of Khomein, the likes of Mitham, the likes of Amar,
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because they truly understood what Imam Ali was.
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To them he wasn't just an Imam. No, he was a guide.
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He was, you know, that spiritual inspiration, the one who
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reminded them of the Sunnah of Rasul Allah, the one who
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reminded them of the ways of Allah, Subhanahu Attallah.
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So when I say I'm Shia, that means I know I'm on the path of
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Haq. I know I am on Sarat al
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Mustaqrim. And and speaking about Sarat al
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Mustaqrim, I was listening to, I think it was Saisalaq Azwini a
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few days earlier and he was talking about, you know, Surat
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al Farhad that we always read and we say every day we pray
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five times a day. Just before starting this
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episode, we were praying Salat al Mohab and Asha.
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And again we said, you know, he did not Sarat al mustaqim, Sarat
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al Ladina and Amta alayhim. And he tied it in so nicely with
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Aliyom Makhmal telecom Deena Combs alaikum.
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So we're asking Allah Sopano Watala, you know, to guide us
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towards the path that he has blessed.
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And here we see Asola Telmaya. There is Aliyomakhma Telecom
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Dinakum Witman to alaikum what after and and and and and.
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I'm to Ali him and I'm to Ali the.
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Root is the same and for those I can't go wrong, for those non
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Arab speakers or those who are are not as well versed, how
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would you describe the net Amma, especially the net Amma that in
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this slide is talking about Willaya?
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Bounty. Bounty.
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It's greater than blessing. I think bounty is closest
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translation what can. Like a divine blessing, divine
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bounty, a flawless sinless bounty that comes straight from
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the last one to either. You know, you, you asked me
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yesterday off the podcast, you said to me, you said why are you
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Shia Chabamba on WhatsApp? So I'm going to ask you why.
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Why are you a Shia? So I was thinking about it
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today. I was thinking, what on earth?
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That's a good question. Why are you Shia?
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So I thought about it as to actually to reframe the
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question. In my mind at least.
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The question should be why do you remain a Shia despite
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hundreds of millions of people consistently saying you are a
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kafir, you are a mushrik, you are this, you are.
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Bro. Let's get straight to the point.
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I am a Shia because I believe the words of the last part and
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the Holy Quran can only be interpreted and not just
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interpreted but taught the Tawil, the Tafsir through
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divinely appointed successor that the Holy Prophet Muhammad
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Sallallahu Alayh Salem appoints and that is of course a
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Medamanin and the Athelbaitan Hema Salaam through the
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teachings of full Allah. I am a Shia because I believe
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that for me as a creation to communicate with my Creator, I
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need guidance on how to even communicate with my Creator
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because without that teaching or without that knowledge I will
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have no means or method of effectively communicating with
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my creator. I am a Shia because I believe
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that alib Nabait Ali Baleh Salaam was rightly and
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rightfully declared and appointed the success of the
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Willy the Wasi. He was the one who slept in the
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bed of the Prophet. He was the one who the Holy
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Prophet gave his daughter to, who continued the lineage of
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Rasulullah Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi.
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But he was the one who was wrongfully denied his Imam and
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his Khalafa. And don't get me wrong he was
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denied his Imam publicly but to us he still number one he is the
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first Imam and he was the first Imam and remains the first Imam
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till today. And in saying that he is the
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first Imam you know to us is an honour, it's a blessing and
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minimal. Minim doesn't gain anything from
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us when we say we are the followers of Imam Ali Alaihi
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Salaam, rather we gain from him because Allah, Allah of him.
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Those who say you are mushrik, you are kafir bro, I'm so sorry,
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but you are missing out because the love, the intercession of
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Imam Ali is sweet to us. It's a it's, it's our
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intercession, our salvation in Dunya and akhla because where
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would we be without Willaava, Miramat minion Ali Salaam.
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So on days like today either, and of course weeks like this
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where we of course celebrate mobile hella and of course we
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prepare our hearts, we prepare our minds for, for the, the
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tragedies of, of Karbala which are happening in the next few
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weeks, inshallah. So we we reconnect with your, we
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reconnect with the message of Rasul Allah Hamad Sallallahu
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Alayhi Salem and how he passed on everything to Emiramat Minin.
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The one who Emiramat Minin said, I followed him like a baby camel
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follows its mother. I slept on the chest of
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Rasulallah. I witnessed revelation and Nabua
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al Asalah through Rasulallah. These are the things that
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Emiramat Minin and we read a natural balaga, he says himself.
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So we learn about the teacher from the student, we learn about
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the commander from the deputy that is a Miramani because we
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can't understand Allah without Miramani Hamad Hamad Hamad.
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Word of God, you took me to the seven.
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Heavens, Ahmed, you know what, what is all of us we have we we
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know that our love this comes from the heart.
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There's nothing stronger than our passion for this.
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And those who say, you know, you are like, people will threaten
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us insults. And you know, unfortunately for
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some in, in parts of the world, they have physical violence and
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aggression that put towards them, you know, guns and all
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sorts of things. You know, may Allah make it easy
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for them. But to be honest, we don't care.
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We're not scared. I mean, why?
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Why would you be worried or scared or like surprised?
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Because The thing is, a lot of people when they were Muslim and
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yet they don't have Islam. For example, the Prophet, the
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Prophet's family, his mother, his mother, his father, they
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said they kafir and don't have fire about the father, he's in
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half fire. So what do you think?
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That is a surprising thing that they said that we are kafir and
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they made the profit family kafir.
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It's not surprised, is it? How will you answer it?
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Let's say like someone comes up to you or whether you read
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online in your comments or via social media, for example, some
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of those, you know what you're a kafir.
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How does that make you feel firstly, but how would you
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respond to that or should you respond to that?
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The best situations because I've the comments that I get is
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horrible, but The thing is you need to see what how they
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thinking about and what they say in it.
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For example, if someone just called their kafir for no
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apparent reason because he just a Shia, explain to him, tell me,
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give me five reason why am I why am I kafir?
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He's going to say, for example, you think that first of we're
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going to say that oh, you think Ali is before the profit, which
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is wrong. You can clear that out.
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You think that the Quran is Maharaf, which is wrong.
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You you worship grave, which we don't you know, we we we ask for
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Ali rather than God, which we don't all of these things that
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they have mis wrong misconception about us, which is
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we do these things, but we don't and other thing that I think
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that why they say this is is of jealousy.
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They always I think soon is what they have is what they don't
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have is that we lie that person that guides you.
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So when you don't have it, you feel a bit empty.
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But when they see that we have it and we proud of it and happy
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with it and we say every day we say, yeah, Ali yeah, Hussein.
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They'll be like, I don't have this, so I'm and I don't believe
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in it. So what, I'm going to put a hate
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on you because I don't believe in it.
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That's all the reason I see why they they they call us Qatar.
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Yes, it is that, but yeah. Said we did the poll.
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Do you have the results? I I do have open yeah, you know,
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we we on Instagram, we put up today, we said we're filming a
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new podcast tonight discussing our Shia identity and including
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discussions on the 500 plus times we have all been called
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Carter in the last week. What's the best way to respond
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to Techfield? So we, we gave like a poll.
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We said ignore them and move on. Show them who's boss, engage
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respectfully and with sources or report and block their accounts.
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Which one do you think of the highest vote?
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I know. So I'll say Joe.
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I know which one got the highest.
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I think we will say certainly the boss, but I don't think
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that's the should be one should be engage with them in a
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manifold conversation. That was that got 57%.
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And we had a few 100 responses in the last couple of hours. 57%
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said engage with sources. What was the rest?
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Said So engage. Respectfully and with sources
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that was 57%. Ignore them and move on was 25%
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which I think is wrong. Show them who's boss. 12% I
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think is unnecessary report and block their account. 7% I think
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it does nothing. But you know, coming to this
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point of engage respectfully and with sources, how should one
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approach this? Because I, I think from what I
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know of you say it, I think you are involved when it comes to
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this field like let's say, trying to represent the method
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of Ali bait, Ali Musalaam. How can one be respectful when
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being bombarded with such hate comments at the same time, you
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know, be. Patient.
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How do you how? How do you keep patience when
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having this dialogue? Is it worth it?
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It's worth it, but The thing is, you're not going to convince
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everyone. Maybe you talk to 100 people,
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but you convince one and that one person is enough.
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Yeah, 100. Percent because you know what it
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is yeah, you think of it as one person, but let's say that
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person got guided because of you.
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Now he's going to get married and his whole lineage is guided
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because of you. I said so do not take it as
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something that's slipped by something you know in the eyes
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of a lot. Trust me is it has a lot of
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value, so don't look. And also I would say that even
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if you don't like guide these people right now, it could be
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their starting point. They could say, OK, you could
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say one good point. Maybe all other points are good.
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But I've heard it from somewhere else which is talked bad about
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Shia or think bad about Shia and they said they ended, you know,
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in the social and not not. So planting the seed at least in
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their mind because you know, sometimes I think about it and
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if I'm honest, I think it's, I'm, I'm at a stage
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unfortunately. Maybe it's because when we run
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the aftermarket of account it's just it's just annoying bro, to
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be honest with you, which you know, in the last week we filmed
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with a Christian brother called Wilf and.
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Brought they had the comments saying I'm a.
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Mushrik it's so messed up, man. And you know, like you get you
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get these comments and I kind of it doesn't it's way past the
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point of affecting now. Like I don't even I just yeah,
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it does not. But it would annoy me more if
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someone insulted Jurgen Klopp or someone insulted Steven Gerrard,
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for example, you know, which is bad because that shows that
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become desensitized towards insult towards my religion.
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But more so it's unfortunately it's the case because now I feel
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like is there a point? However, what you said was very
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valuable said even if you make you change the heart of one
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person, you know we look at the night before Ashura Imam Ali sat
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for three hours 3 hours with Omar al bin started not Allah
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Ali 3 hours. Why did Imam and Hussein Islam
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do that if he didn't think that there was a chance or at least
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to give him the chance to to turn him towards alas, Pantala
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horror, look at horror. Ibn Yazid al Riyahi like that,
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that one person out of the army 30,000 who changed.
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Look at the legacy Harhad. And that was one person who the
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Imam managed to to leave a mark on.
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So I think you're completely right in what you're saying.
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There's never any lost hope, is there?
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Never know and it's very important.
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Like for example, what I'll do is I'll try and as much as
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possible to bigger a way to make people understand what we
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believe in. Even for example, because a lot
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of people nowadays, what they do is they sit in social media,
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they visit the people that have hate to Shia and debate for no
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reason and they lie about us. They say different things that
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we actually don't do. So when we have that, when we
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have some people that represent us with a way to make them
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understand what we believe in, it helps.
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It helps a lot. And when we work more in our
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social media and we engage with people, I think that will make
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sure that will make them in a way understand where we'll be
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coming from. And they're not going to attack
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us as much as, you know, as we see nowadays, we get attacked by
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left front and centre. But what if we do our own work
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and we published our own belief outside in Media 100?
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Percent, 100%. You know, before we were
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recording, we're talking about one of your favorite hadiths.
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OK, Can I ask you, and this is on the topic of minimum, sorry
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to kind of backtrack. So I wanted to ask you because
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I, I found what you said beautiful.
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If you can tell us why, what what what you said and how, it
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connects you to a minimum meaning as well.
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So the prophet, peace be upon you, said Timon Ali.
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If was it not for a group of my nation saying to you what the
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Christians said about Jesus, son of Mary, I would assess some
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virtues on you that if a group of people walk past you or see
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you walking, they would have wiped the the footstep of yours
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to have blessing with it and have a healing from it.
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But what he said, but he said enough is that you are from me
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and I am from you and to me you're like Moses to Haram.
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He said there's no profit after me and tomorrow in the day of
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resurrection you're going to be my neighbor in paradise, and
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tomorrow going to be my successor in the fountain of
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Kotha, and your Shia will be in purpose and lights around me
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with their face. Lighten up with Noor.
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Martial law. So that's the tell us about
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Shia, who are we, who we are and now and what we're going to be
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in the day of judgement and on the day of in your McCrea, I'm
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in heaven. What more can we like as I
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believe in a Muslim? Do you want more than that?
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I don't think so. It's part of law.
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What a beautiful, beautiful narration and it just makes you
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think about the the love and that bond between Rasul Allah,
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Muhammad Sallallahu Ali Ali Wasalam and Imam Ali Ali Salam
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where they melted in each other's love.
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Ali, we say the two souls got one heart.
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Honestly, nothing will ever separate them apart.
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And we always see this, like you mentioned, that Ali is from me
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and I from Ali. There's more.
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There's me and Ali are from the same tree.
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You know, I'm the city of knowledge and Ali is door.
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Ali, Ali, Ali, and wherever you find the truth, you find Ali.
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Could never end. Never end we.
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Can talk all night. Do you see that that video up
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the birth place of 80 titles of I was my from chin, from jaw to
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jaw, cheek to cheek. My smile was like I was in I was
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grinning. Marshall Law.
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Imams and Aberdeen at the court of Yazid gave a lecture or a
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speech to the people to remind them of who they are, because at
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the time of Mahalia and Yazid they forgot a Liberator.
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So he said that who knows who knows me, knows me and who
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doesn't know me, I'll tell you about me.
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He said Al Muhammad and Mustafa described his granddad, which is
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the prophet peace upon him and then he went to Imam Ali, Ali,
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Abdul Sarah to Saddam. He said alumna Ali and Mortada
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and I'm no mandarah. Be safe.
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What are an aberon Hain Wahaja he's retain waha I'll be attain.
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Well, let me look for a bit. Later for that, this is the
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lineage. How beautiful is it?
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Like you are the son of Ali and also to be named after Ali and
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just to hear the merits of Ali, you're telling me it doesn't
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bring joy to your heart? Of course it does and Mashallah,
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both of you are Sadat. You're honoured with this.
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Honestly, honest, it's a blessing and it's obviously
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responsibility on you, but what a blessing.
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And like I said earlier, this is the lineage that Rasulullah knew
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this, you know, he knew that his his lineage would continue
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through Fatah and he had to find the right match for her.
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And I was like, how else? That in itself is an honor.
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That in itself shows that I trust this man with my daughter.
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I trust him with her safety, her protection, her comfort, her
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risk. All of that is in his hands.
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And he is the one who I trust in my absence to look after my, my,
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my, my daughter, who I who I give everything to.
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Omar Abihar. Do you know what I'm saying?
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Like that in itself, if there's if you say all of these, you
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know, excuses about a Minamot minion.
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Oh, Mola means friend. This that all of these excuses.
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Yeah. OK, cool.
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Just look at any of these things.
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Minamot minion slept in the bed of Sola.
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That enough is itself. That's in itself is enough.
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That would tell the shit up. That in itself is enough.
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When you look at the fact that I mean, I'm not many marriage
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Sahara, that in itself is enough.
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All of these are enough in themselves.
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Do you know what I mean? And then even if you come to the
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point that Ali is the Molda and molda means friend, let's go
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through that. OK, Molla means friend.
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OK, cool. All right.
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So if Imam Ali was the only one who Rasulallah gathered and he,
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if he exclusively said you are my sahaba, but he is my friend,
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he is exclusively keeping a minimum money in a, in a group
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of his own, a category of his own.
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To me that's enough. Like if, if, if, if Rasul Allah
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says you are this, all of you are this, but he is special
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because he's my only friend. Even if that was the case, that
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would be enough for me. And if he is the friend, as we
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here said, Amar said in in that lecture, have you heard that
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clip? He said, if he is the friend,
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then which one of you befriended Ali and did you keep your
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friendship with Ali? That in itself is an important
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question. If someone is your friend and
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Russell Allah says if you I'm your friend and he is your
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friend, did you remain in friendship with Alibaba Talib
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Ali Salaam? Because there's a lot of a lot
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of evidence and proof to show that he did not have the
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friendship of those around him and the ones who are
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congratulating him even on that day, let's say.
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It had been friend for a moment. OK, but like we we've always
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heard that everyone was living hunky Dory and everyone was
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friends before this. So does that really mean
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Rasulallah was saying friend? But if you ever get told, for
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example, you know, mola means friends because this always
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happens. By the way, this is comes year
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on year on year. And here we are, you know, in
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the days of idol Khadir and it's come once more.
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Mola's just friends. What's this all about?
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Again, people that hate Imam Ali Ali are the one that against
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went against even though they know the meaning of it.
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If we look in the Quran and see what what defines and what makes
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the what modemi master is. For example, when you add to TA
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obey code, obey messenger and also authority.
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OK, we see that here. These people are the one that we
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should obey, right? And then also insert in my the
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best #55 we all know, you know, allahu aliyu ladina.
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No, sorry, that's not the best. That's not the best and Rasul
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Olivine Amon Olivine Ramon. So tell me here is more than me
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friend, no me master guardian, but other people as as we all
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know the human. They don't need to be the first
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of many reason. He was the hero of all
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battlefield. He killed so many people.
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So I don't want it to be in that state to be in power.
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I think there's so many lessons to be learnt from the life of
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Minamo mining from, you know, as we said at the beginning, we can
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go on endlessly the merits of Minamo mining, Alayhi Salam.
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I think ultimately, if there's a an example of someone who
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follows Shiism and its purest form, say Jawadu, I think our
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our perfect representation for us as youth who are aspiring to
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be amongst the followers of Min Marshall law.
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You are exemplary individual Marshall Law.
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May, may your service continue. May your Hedma continue as well
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to the Alibaba name of Simon and ultimately to to bring you close
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to our last final to Allah. And I know, I know we've, we can
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talk for hours and hours, but I know also we're on the time
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constraint. So I wanted to thank you so much
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for joining us for enlightening us.
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Thank you guys for giving. The opportunities to speak and
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I'm really pleased that I'm here with you guys.
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You know, like this doesn't come a lot and I'm very proud of like
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a few guys as well seeing your working medias and whatnot and
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you're doing very well. Keep you up in shower, you know,
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represent the debate in the best way, as you always do.
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I thank you very much. I.
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Sent it last words. Beautiful yeah yeah I I I I I
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think we definitely should schedule a Part 2 to this at
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some stage later on I think over the next few weeks because I
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think there's so much we can discuss there's so much that we
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can learn and benefit from. You saying that because I've
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seen the work that you do outside of this podcast and I
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think it's amazing for what you do for the school of the a
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little bit Ali Huma Salaam. And just when he was speaking
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about Maulan, you're mentioning all those verses like I, I
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remembered the the famous saying by Rasulullah where he says Ales
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alester Ola physical. Alester Ola.
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Ola mola like when Rasulullah was asking the people there
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Khadir, he was telling them what do I not have authority over you
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more than yourselves? He.
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Said yes. Alarm and conto mola mola.
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So technically there's not friend because Rasola just prior
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to that she's selling them. He's talking about authority and
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then he links. Authority.
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Authority too Mola Malaya and you know Hamdallah for being
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from the Malaya of Amiral Romanian and Hamdulillah Lady
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Jalana. I don't want.
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It to end, but here we. Are thank you so much guys.
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We will be back next week inshallah and inshallah.
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month of Mahadram and the beginning of the Islamic
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calendar, the lunar calendar. And that is the season where we
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commemorate the master of the Mahmud Salaam, his companions,
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his family as well on the plains of Karbala.
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