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Ep 341: Planning a Once-in-a-Lifetime Michigan Deer Hunt with Dan Johnson · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mark ken You. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host Mark Kenyan in this episode number three
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  Speaker 1: forty one, and today in the show, I am joined
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  Speaker 1: by Dan Johnson to discuss it is very exciting, although
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  Speaker 1: very long delayed, decision to finally leave the promised land
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  Speaker 1: of Iowa to experience a deer hunt in the great
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  Speaker 1: state of Michigan. All right, welcome to the Wired Hunt podcast,
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  Speaker 1: brought to you by on X. Today, I got my
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  Speaker 1: man Dan Johnson with me for from much need to
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  Speaker 1: catch up. Um, the main thing I want to at
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  Speaker 1: least the main thing I think I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about today is an exciting thing. It's like a fun,
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  Speaker 1: happy thing that I am stoked that we're finally talking
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  Speaker 1: about after years and years and years and years and years.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, but before we before we dive into that
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  Speaker 1: which which folks listening will know what I'm referring to
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  Speaker 1: now by the title of this podcast, But before that,
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  Speaker 1: we're recording this on Wednesday, March eighteen. This is going
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  Speaker 1: to come out a week from now, so who knows.
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  Speaker 1: What the world's gonna be like seven days from now
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  Speaker 1: when people are listening to this. But I can tell
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  Speaker 1: you that right now, Dan stuffs pretty weird, pretty different
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  Speaker 1: than the world we're living in about a week ago. Um,
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  Speaker 1: how are you? How are you doing? How are you
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  Speaker 1: in the family doing well? Mark? We're we're just getting by,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's kind of it's kind of
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of hard over here, all right. I know
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  Speaker 1: that you're kidding, because in Iowa you're pretty well sheltered
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  Speaker 1: from what it is serious for a lot of people.
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  Speaker 1: I know it is. I know it is. They've closed
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  Speaker 1: everything in Iowa, bars, restaurants, they've closed school for four weeks. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Rumor has it they're gonna just close schools down for
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the year, going right into into summer um.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure that's the same way it is everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Right We're we're practicing our social distancing. We are trying
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  Speaker 1: to wash our hands as much as possible. But you
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  Speaker 1: know how little kids are, and they're touchy feely, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be one of those things where
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  Speaker 1: if one of us gets it, all of us are
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  Speaker 1: gonna get it. Yeah, Yeah, it seems like with kids,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's inevitable. The the one blessing of this whole
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  Speaker 1: thing seems to be that kids are not, in fact
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  Speaker 1: and not impacted nearly as much as as other groups
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  Speaker 1: of people. So when a very, when a very the
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  Speaker 1: first time I start paying attention to it, the first
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  Speaker 1: thing that came in my mind was what about my son,
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  Speaker 1: who's you know, just a month old and that kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff. That was really scary at first. But knowing
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  Speaker 1: that at least there's a little bit of solace and
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  Speaker 1: that our kids will probably be okay, that gives me
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  Speaker 1: a little peace of mind. But it's pretty crazy stuff
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  Speaker 1: out there, man, And I mean, none of us has
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  Speaker 1: ever seen anything like this before, no man. And what
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  Speaker 1: really sucks is that the voices that need to be
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  Speaker 1: heard aren't necessarily the ones that have the microphone. At
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  Speaker 1: this point, I feel like, right, I mean, we need
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  Speaker 1: to have scientists and professionals talking and not and and
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  Speaker 1: then then there's people like I don't know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say a name, but there is people out
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  Speaker 1: there who get their information from social media and that's
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  Speaker 1: the that's the gospel. It's like, oh my god, I
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  Speaker 1: have to boil my bed sheets. It's crazy, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like or some you know, just the craziness of it
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  Speaker 1: all and watching people not even like my dad goes
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  Speaker 1: to the grocery store. He lives by himself, no meat,
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  Speaker 1: no produce at his local grocery store in a town
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  Speaker 1: of a thousand. Man. I'll tell you what, it's a
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  Speaker 1: good time to be a hunter or angler or forger
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  Speaker 1: because we at least have a good store of food,
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  Speaker 1: uh that maybe a lot of people don't have. So
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  Speaker 1: I wonder, and I hope I don't think it will
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  Speaker 1: get to this, because it sounds like supply chain will
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  Speaker 1: be eventually figured out, and I hope it doesn't get
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  Speaker 1: to this. But I wonder if there will come a
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  Speaker 1: time when we hunters need to think about sharing our
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  Speaker 1: stores of meat with people. If it gets to the
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  Speaker 1: point that that folks can't get red meat, I wonder
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  Speaker 1: if we will need to rally the troops and do
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  Speaker 1: something like that. I don't know if we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: that point. I hope not, but if we do, maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's something that we can help with. You know, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's let's talk about some of like the dark thoughts
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  Speaker 1: that are in your head. At the moment because obviously
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  Speaker 1: we're all playing by the rules right now. I mean
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  Speaker 1: I watch videos online of people fighting over toilet paper
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  Speaker 1: and the grocery stores, like a little literally fist fighting
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  Speaker 1: over toilet paper. Right. So, you know I've seen the
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  Speaker 1: movie Mad Max, right, those post apocalyptic movies where people
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  Speaker 1: are all in hiding and and they you know, they're
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  Speaker 1: scavenging and it's every man for themselves. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: you think about that just a little bit, right, just
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  Speaker 1: a little bit like if ship got real? Am I
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  Speaker 1: prepared for for that? And? Uh, I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: think I think me and my family could get by
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  Speaker 1: for quite a while based off of common sense and
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  Speaker 1: food supply. You have, you have the leather and metal
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  Speaker 1: studded like vests and headgear. M basically just straight, where
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  Speaker 1: have your Mad Max appare? Already? My my wife leads
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  Speaker 1: me around in a choker all day? Have you seen that?
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  Speaker 1: Those movies? The most recent one, oh, the most recent one. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But remember I'm an eighties baby, so I've seen all
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  Speaker 1: the originals. So the Originals, Okay, I haven't seen the Originals.
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  Speaker 1: I just saw the newest one. But that's some pretty
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  Speaker 1: wild stuff. I hope it doesn't get to that, right.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, man, Um, I try. I've been trying to
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  Speaker 1: keep a level head on everything and not panic at all,
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  Speaker 1: but at the same time take a serious um and
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  Speaker 1: like you said, you really gotta sort the wheat from
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  Speaker 1: the chaff. I guess is what they say, right, You
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  Speaker 1: need to learn how to learn who to listen to,
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  Speaker 1: Who are the experts. How do you ignore the noise
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  Speaker 1: and the conspiracy theories but pay attention to the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that does matter. So I mean, I'm I'm paying attention
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  Speaker 1: to the scientists, to the CDC, to the World Health
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  Speaker 1: Organization too, you know, doctors like Tony Fauci, I think
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  Speaker 1: who has led, uh led the whole fight on HIV
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  Speaker 1: back in the eighties and epidemics like that. This guy
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  Speaker 1: knows what he's talking about. So I'm I'm listening and
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  Speaker 1: taking what he has to say to heart. Um and
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  Speaker 1: those folks are saying like, if we do not take
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  Speaker 1: this serious, this thing is unprecedented. So I'm taking it serious,
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  Speaker 1: but at the same time not not trying to lose
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  Speaker 1: sleep over and trying to stay positive, trying to you know,
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  Speaker 1: be a good dad, be a good husband, be whatever.
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  Speaker 1: I can be um, because he can't can't change the
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  Speaker 1: situation around us. All you can do is change what
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  Speaker 1: you personally are going to do and how you react
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  Speaker 1: to it. So um, but you can't help. But I
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  Speaker 1: was talking to Doug Darren about this last week. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's really hard not to get sucked into it and
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  Speaker 1: like checking your phone all the time. There's just endless
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  Speaker 1: stream of updates and this is happening, now, this is happening, now,
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  Speaker 1: this is happening. It's it's like watching uh, crazy apocalyptic
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  Speaker 1: drama kind of TV show on Netflix, but I'm watching
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  Speaker 1: in real time on my phone. Um, and it's hard
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  Speaker 1: not to get addicted to that. But it's I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's healthy probably to do what I've been doing.
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  Speaker 1: It's Um, I've been trying to shake it and like
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  Speaker 1: put my phone away and not see it for half
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  Speaker 1: the day or something, just to somehow disconnect, because I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's probably good for us to just binge
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  Speaker 1: that NonStop and stress about it. So my sister in
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  Speaker 1: law is a nurse, my mother is a nurse, and
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  Speaker 1: I have like a couple of my best friends are
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  Speaker 1: in medical fields. So yeah, I watched the news and
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  Speaker 1: I'm typically off my phone for a majority of the day,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm getting my information from them because I feel
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  Speaker 1: like when ship starts hitting the fan with them, then
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  Speaker 1: it's just a matter of a day until the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the world, you know, the rest of the ship
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  Speaker 1: hits the fans. So like, you know, my my sister
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  Speaker 1: in law, she's telling me, you know, just follow do
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  Speaker 1: what the CDC is telling you to do. You know,
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  Speaker 1: wash your hands, you know, stay six ft apart. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know, obviously my wife isn't going to work. I
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  Speaker 1: work from home. My kids are not going to school
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  Speaker 1: as of now for four weeks. So it's basically just
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  Speaker 1: keep everybody's heads on level at this point. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's all we can do. Um, how's it going so far?
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  Speaker 1: With your wife at home, the kids at home? There's
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  Speaker 1: a ton of people. I was talking to my buddy
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  Speaker 1: been up bright about this the other day that I
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  Speaker 1: have been basically living the self quarantine, work from home
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  Speaker 1: with kids lifestyle for years. Everyone's now just joining the
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  Speaker 1: party with me. Um, what's it been like for you
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  Speaker 1: guys with everyone there in the house, are you guys
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  Speaker 1: able to get anything done? Has it been a mess?
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  Speaker 1: It's a little frustrating. Um, it's a little frustrating for
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  Speaker 1: me because instead of having Monday through Thursday, I typically
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  Speaker 1: get about three hours to work in the morning where
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  Speaker 1: I can throw on cartoons or I can I can
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  Speaker 1: like kick a ball while I'm sending emails and and
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  Speaker 1: my son will running get it, my youngest son, you know,
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  Speaker 1: basically playing fetch with him and keeping keeping him occupied. Now,
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  Speaker 1: everybody's home. My wife is home. She's still working full time,
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  Speaker 1: right but now from home. So while we record this,
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  Speaker 1: she's doing work but watching three kids. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: like yesterday, yesterday and the day before, we're really nice outside,
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  Speaker 1: so we spent a lot of time outside. But today
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  Speaker 1: it's an all day rain. So today is gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a really test of what the next four weeks are
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  Speaker 1: going to be like. Yeah, man, Um, so you've been
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  Speaker 1: working on from home now for almost a year, right, yep,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a year, dude, It's been over a year.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing. Congratulations again, I'm making it through your first year.
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  Speaker 1: That's badass stressful as ship. Yeah, I guess this might
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  Speaker 1: be more stressful right now? Is that is that something
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  Speaker 1: you're failing to right now? Well before this whole outbreak, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I would say sometime in early February. No, it
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  Speaker 1: was actually early January when you know, I, You're getting
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  Speaker 1: close to this goal, you know, I said to myself, Hey, man,
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  Speaker 1: if I can make it through year one by myself
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  Speaker 1: doing this thing and still supporting the family and you know,
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  Speaker 1: cutting ins in certain places, I could, Man, I can.
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  Speaker 1: I can make it work for year two for sure, right,
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  Speaker 1: and year three because you know, the company and the
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  Speaker 1: content or just continuing to grow at that point and
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  Speaker 1: I I'm doing it and it's it's great, but man,
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  Speaker 1: there have been some points along the road. And I
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  Speaker 1: actually had a conversation um with Chad Sylvester of Exodus
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  Speaker 1: Trail Cameras. We did we did an episode and it
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  Speaker 1: was basically about this, right, And it's just the financing
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  Speaker 1: some resentment, you know, balancing work in life when you're
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  Speaker 1: working from home. Um, and then you know going on
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  Speaker 1: hunts is now attacks right off, right, and it's somewhat
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  Speaker 1: business related, and people some people still don't see it
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  Speaker 1: that way. So it's just this constant yin Yang give
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  Speaker 1: and take balance at the house to make sure everybody's
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  Speaker 1: taken care of. I'm getting what I want, I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: the money that I need to support the family, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's man, I'll tell you what finance.
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  Speaker 1: Finance part of it is the biggest hurdle. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: no doubt about that. I know that that's something that
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  Speaker 1: when it's all on you, um, and there's no safety
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  Speaker 1: net with a company, you know, sending you paychecks week
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  Speaker 1: by week, that's it takes on a whole different level
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  Speaker 1: of significance. Um. So props to you man for making
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  Speaker 1: this to year one. That's a big deal. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: So like like they say in the record company, right,
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  Speaker 1: your freshman album, right, you could come out and you
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  Speaker 1: could be a rock star, but the sophomore album turns
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  Speaker 1: you into a legend. Right, So I gotta make sure
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  Speaker 1: that you're two is greater than year one, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. So you gotta I just gotta keep building.
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  Speaker 1: Same same with you. It's like every year you gotta
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  Speaker 1: come out with something new and unique in order to
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  Speaker 1: transcend to that next year too. You don't know, keep
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  Speaker 1: all eyes on you because let's face it, what we
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  Speaker 1: do is all about attention, right. We want people to
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  Speaker 1: you are content so we can make money off of it,
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  Speaker 1: and so you know, is what that whole thing is. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if you're not growing and evolving, you're losing. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: that's you always have to be growing. So I trust,
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  Speaker 1: I trust and believe that you uh, you've got a
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  Speaker 1: hell of a great path ahead of your buddy. So
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  Speaker 1: just real quick, you know, everybody, please keep an eye
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  Speaker 1: out for nine Finger adult videos. That's that's Dan's next step.
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  Speaker 1: And this sophomore album is gonna be very different, going
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  Speaker 1: from the hunting industry right into the adult industry. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to spend too much time on this,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm sure that industry is gonna be doing very
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  Speaker 1: well right now with all the whole stuff. Anyways, moving
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  Speaker 1: from me trust, moving on working from home though, I
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  Speaker 1: want to spend like two minutes just on this because
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  Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of people listening now
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  Speaker 1: that are all of a sudden working from home that
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  Speaker 1: haven't and they're working home with their wives at home
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  Speaker 1: too and their kids at home. To um. I've been,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, I've been doing this a while and
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  Speaker 1: it I don't know if it's useful or helpful at all,
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  Speaker 1: but a few things that I've done that have helped
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  Speaker 1: me here. I thought i'd just share a few couple
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  Speaker 1: of tips when it comes to this whole work from
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  Speaker 1: home lifestyle with kids and all that. Um, it's been
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  Speaker 1: like a a process for us to figure out how
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  Speaker 1: to do that because I work from home, my wife
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  Speaker 1: works from home. We both work full time, and we
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  Speaker 1: don't send our kids to daycare, so we have our
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  Speaker 1: kids here too. Um So when it comes to just
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  Speaker 1: like being effective from work from home lifestyle, one thing
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  Speaker 1: that helped me a lot was waking up before everybody
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  Speaker 1: else does. So I try to wake up about two
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  Speaker 1: hour hour or two hours before when the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the family wakes up. When they wake up the variable part.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm getting up at six and they get up
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  Speaker 1: between seven seven thirty something like that, um, which gives
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  Speaker 1: me a little time to get my morning workout in,
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  Speaker 1: to get a little bit of prepara work on the
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  Speaker 1: computer done, a few things like that, and just like
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  Speaker 1: starting my day on my own, my own time, no
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  Speaker 1: one bothered me. That's a great thing. Um. I wish
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  Speaker 1: I could get up earlier. I'm just not a good
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  Speaker 1: earlier morning person. But maybe somebody I have to start
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  Speaker 1: getting up at like five, so I've got more time
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  Speaker 1: to do that before everybody else. But that's been a
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  Speaker 1: helpful thing, um, And that routine has been something that
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  Speaker 1: really helped when I first started working from home. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what it was like for you, Daniel to
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  Speaker 1: tell me, but when I start first started working from
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  Speaker 1: home back in two thousand and thirteen, it was this novelty.
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, I was gonna wake up when
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  Speaker 1: I wake up, and I'm gonna work all day in
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  Speaker 1: my pajamas, and if I want to go do this thing,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do that thing. Um. And I just
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  Speaker 1: kind of dicked around for a little bit because all
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  Speaker 1: of a sudden you could. But I quickly realized that
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  Speaker 1: did not lead to me being very effective. So what
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  Speaker 1: does work is is still having a daily routine, still
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  Speaker 1: acting like I'm going into an office. So I guess
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  Speaker 1: I've got to set wake up time. I get like
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  Speaker 1: a morning workout, and I get some morning journal stuff done,
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  Speaker 1: just kind of outlining my goals for the day, what
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  Speaker 1: would make today. It's like, ask some things like that
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  Speaker 1: just to kind of prep my day. Um, get a
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  Speaker 1: shower and put on real people clothes. I used to
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  Speaker 1: just work all day in my pajamas, and I just
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  Speaker 1: feel like a schmuck. And I acted like a schmuck,
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  Speaker 1: and I worked like a schmuck. If I put on
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  Speaker 1: regular pants, in a real shirt and look like a
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  Speaker 1: normal person, I feel like I can act and work
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  Speaker 1: a lot better. It's a little thing, but I really
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  Speaker 1: do think it makes a difference, just like your mindset. UM.
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  Speaker 1: So that's helped a lot. And then with the whole
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  Speaker 1: kid thing, what my wife and I have had to
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  Speaker 1: do is we um we split the days. So every
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  Speaker 1: day my wife will work a half shift with the
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  Speaker 1: kids and I'll work a half shift with the kids,
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  Speaker 1: and then we flip flop who gets the morning shift
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  Speaker 1: versus the afternoon shift. UM. So that for half the
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  Speaker 1: day you got just you in your own office doing
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  Speaker 1: your work without any interruptions. And then for the second
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  Speaker 1: half of the day you are responsible for the kids
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  Speaker 1: and still trying to work. Um. And so that half
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  Speaker 1: of the day is less great. UM. So you've got
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  Speaker 1: the afternoon shift. That's when or whenever it's got his
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  Speaker 1: big naps. He'll sleep for two or three hours, so
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  Speaker 1: you can still have really good time of work. But
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  Speaker 1: if he's awake. Then it becomes a challenge. Um. So
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: that's what we've done. We flip flopped, and your day
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: isn't as great as to be if you had eight
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: nine hours completely without interruptions. So you do have to
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: work nights. Sometimes you do have to get up early
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: and work in the morning. Sometimes you can really have
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: to relish those nap times. Um. But I can still
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: get a whole lot done doing that. Um. And we
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: do have my mother in law does come sometimes a
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: couple of times a week to help too. That's a
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: great help. Um. Those are a couple of simple things
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: we've done that have helped. I don't know, Dan, what
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: about you? What any quick tips on working from home,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: working with the kids? Uh, getting stuff done while everyone's
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: all around you. Yeah. So my wife has what I
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: would call a quote unquote real job, right, So my
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: schedule for the most part is flexible unless I have
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: something scheduled that's you know, important. Um. But when she
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: has a work meeting, I mean, she's got a work meeting,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: so her stuff kind of takes priority and then I'm
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: typically left too. Like last night, I worked from oh
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: seven thirty after supper, you know, clean the kitchen, head
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: up stairs here, and then I worked till eleven thirty
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: last night, so I get the I get second shift,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: and then I am If I got up any earlier
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: than what I do now, I'd be getting like two
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: or three hours asleep at night. So, uh, it's it's
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: very hard now to even just be alone in the
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: house to get stuff done. I mean, there's times where
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: it's my turn to watch the kids and I'm trying
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: to multitask, and I feel like a piece of ship
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: because I'm on my phone ignoring them, sending an email,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: replying to an email, doing some social work when they're
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: trying to play with me, and stuff like that. And
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: what I don't want is my kids to see that
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: and think it's okay to ignore people because you have
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: this device in your hand now. So I'm constantly struggling
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: having to tell myself put it away. You can do
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: this later. But you know, when you have a schedule,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: you know, because you don't want to do all your
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: social work at eleven o'clock at night, right, you don't
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: want to make a post at eleven. You want to
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: do it throughout the day. And I don't know, it's
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: just something that is a continue. Like I have less
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: of a schedule right now other than wake up, take
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: a shower. That's my only routine throughout the entire day.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Everything else is balance and going with the flow. Sometimes
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I just gotta gotta make the best of the circumstances.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I guess. Um, yeah, man, the phone thing, that's tough
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: for me to exactly. Like you said, You've got to
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: do it. It's part of your job. At the same time,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: I'm trying not to be locked on that thing. So
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I I am trying to set like hours, when like
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: it's work hours, I'll be on it. But like when
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I get done with my regular work, our day is
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: at five, I'll try to set it. We've got a
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: kind of a I don't know how you describe it.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I guess, like a bucket kind of thing on the table,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: and I'll put the phone in there and try not
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: to mess around with it until the kids go to bed. Um,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: so at least that time is his phone free. But
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: sometimes easier said than done. Um, what about other stuff? Lockdown?
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: We're on lockdown. We're supposed to be avoiding groups of
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: ten or more. We're supposed to be staying home as
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: much as possible. Staying away from public spaces as much
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: as possible. Uh. Any recommendations for COVID nineteen activities that
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: are safe. I mean, I feel like most anything that
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: we do as hunters is a good option, right Scouting
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: hunting prepent trees. Yeah, man, you've got any plans to
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: do that kind of thing? Uh not in the near future,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: other than doing some turkey hunting. I mean, right now,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: it's just been you know, I'm in that limbo of
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: post shed hunt pre turkey, and I mean I'd love
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: to get out and do maybe a day or two
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: more of shed hunting on the farm where I found
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: all of those sheds recently, because I didn't I didn't
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: go into the timber really at all and look for
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: any But you know, with the whole situation with everybody
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: working from home, it's just been if it's nice outside,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I'm taking the kids outside. Yes yesterday we actually went
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: on to a piece of state ground, uh near my home,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and we walked some deer trails. It was kind of
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: this big open grass grassland area, like not necessarily CRP,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: but the grass was real short and we just went
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: out there. Oh Dad, look at deer tracks, Oh Dad,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: look at this. Look at this bug, or look at this.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Look at this, Oh Dad, look at there's an eagle nest,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: and just get him outside. And this is this is
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: actually a really good time because since this past Saturday
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: it's been nice out. We've done just a lot more
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: outside and a lot less TV and a lot less
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: video games, just more outside playing enjoying nature, which is
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: kind of a I guess if you want to call
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: it a silver lining, that's it. Yeah, Thank goodness that
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: we're getting into springtime. If this was going on right
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: in the middle of winter and we'd have a lot
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: less to do. So it's a good point. Uh. Do
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: you have any other recommendations for folks trying to burn time?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Book book ideas might not be your wheelhouse. I mean,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: show ideas got in movies you've watched and he shows
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you binge watch on Netflix, anything good like that we
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: can suggest. So when I when I finally do have time,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: and I try to give myself thirty minutes to an
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: hour because I don't know about you, but I can't
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: just go straight to bed after I'm done working. My brains.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: My brain needs like a decompress, needs to decompress, and
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: so I'll sit right now. I'm watching a show called Snowfall. Um.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever seen it. It's based
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: off of the nineteen eighties crack epidemic, how crack cocaine
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: was actually introduced to South central Los Angeles, and how
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the CIA was actually helping provide cocaine to drug dealers.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's loosely based on on that, but crack
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: cocaine was supported by the CIA back in the eighties.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: So is this a fictional show or this is a
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Oh no, it's a fictional show, but it's based off
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: of a true story. Yeah. So, because let's see, the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: CIA was selling drugs, the money coming in was used
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: to buy weapons that they were flying down to a
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Southern American country and giving to those rebels to help
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: overthrow a government. Y. Yeah, it's crazy, it's pretty but
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: it's a pretty cool show. I know there's documentaries on
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: it as well. But other than that, Man, I watch
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: one hour a TV and night these days. Man, you're
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: bringing me down with the story about what's going on
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: in the eighties. Well it's it's I mean, you know,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the whole Ronald Reagan crack epidemic thing, and uh, it's
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: it's a really cool, it's a really exciting, it's a
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: fast paced show. It's it's kind of like a shoot
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: him up gangster. You know you have you seen Narcos?
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: You haven't. You haven't watched Narcos The Story of Pablo Escobar. No,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I've heard about it, but I haven't seen it. Dude, Dude,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: there's three there's like three or four seasons of it.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: You definitely need to watch Narcos on Netflix. Now's the time. Yeah,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I guess I just don't watch a lot of TV.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Um and when we do, I feel like I've been
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: airing towards the comedy right now, Like, if we're getting
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to watch TV, I need like something's gonna give me
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: those kinds of endorphins or whatever. Oh dude, you wanna
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: you wanna listen to a really funny um god? What's
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: her name? Fortune? I think her name is actually Fortune.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: She's a bigger, blonde, shorter, curly hair, heavy set lady
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: who's a lesbian and dude, it is. It is a
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: hilarious stand up hour. You can find it on Netflix
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: as well. I think her name is Fortune something. I'll
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: check that out, dude. We did watch the stand up
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: special from a guy named Mike Barbiglia. I don't know
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: if you've ever heard of him. U super funny dude.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: And it is all about his journey from not wanting
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: to have kids to his wife convincing him to have
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: a child, to then the whole process of his wife
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: being pregnant and what that was all like, and then
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: what the first year was with the baby. Uh, something
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: that I know you and I can both relate to
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: a lot right now. So that's another going It's called
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the New One. Yeah, really good stuff. So so I
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: also have to tell you what else I've been doing
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: lately too. You know, when I do have time, well
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I kind of I'm in a way making time whenever
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: I'm uploading a file or downloading a file, or waiting
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: for something to load, or you know, maybe I'm on
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: the toilet or whatever. You know what I mean. Like
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: those those moments, yeah, are spent straight up e scouting nice,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: whether it's my home farm, whether it's Michigan, whether it's
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: South Dakota, whether it's you know, some other states. Because
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: there's a very small chance that I go to Wisconsin
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: maybe to do a turkey hunt right on the Mississippi River.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: So h just been doing a lot of getting on
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: on X and just scouting. Well, that's a perfect segue, dude,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: you just said the magic word. Yeah, it's been years
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: in the making. It's been a dream of mine. It's
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: been on my every every year I set these goals
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: for the year, and then for my five year goals,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and for years now, right at the top of my
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: list of my year the goals has convinced Dan Johnson
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: to hunt Michigan. And every year it's there. Every year
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I check it off as not not achieved, not achieved,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: not achieved. Now, finally, two thousand twenty, I can say
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Dan Johnson is hunting Michigan. There's been a commitment made.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: It's amazing. How I mean we talked years what happened? Like,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: how did this is? It? Is it? Honestly the fact
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: that you finally realize that you couldn't put off the
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: verbal contract that you made five years ago or whatever,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: or it was the peer pressure. Did enough people bother
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: you about it? How did this happen? This is a
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: PC peer pressure, to be honest with you, So we
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: there was a little bit of a technicality when we
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: made this agreement if I ever am able to quit
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: my job and go full time. Well, I didn't necessarily quit,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: oh jeez, I was laid off right, So off of
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: a technicality, I kind of pushed it off, and then
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I I made the mistake of putting out a post saying, Hey,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not going on my elk hunt this year. Give
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: me an over the counter state to where you know,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: you know where I where I can get a tag easy,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: where there's a lot of public grounds so I can hunt.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Did you not expect that response you got? Well, I
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: thought everybody was going to be real, right, and nobody
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: was real about I mean, people were real, but they
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: were just like, dude, you know you need to go
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: to Michigan because you made a promise, and I was.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: You know, there were people who weren't even just commenting
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: in that post. They were sending me direct messages saying
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: things like, Hey, Dan, I think it would be really
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: cool if you would hunt Michigan because you know you
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: mentioned you you know, your full time now like going
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: through it, not necessarily calling me out, but just like, yeah,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: giving me the timeline of what actually happened. I know
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: the timeline, right, but people were just like so here's
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: what happened. Dan. You were laid off right promised Mark,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: you know this, this, this, and now it's time to
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: pay up. It's almost like it's almost like no one
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: really gives a shit about me. They're just minions for you.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: You know. It's it's been my plan all alone. Dan.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: It's worked out wonderfully, right, But hey man, I'm getting
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I said, you know, screw it, I'm gonna hunt Michigan.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: And the crazy thing about this whole thing is for
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: everybody who in the past has said Michigan is a
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: dogship place to hunt. I have been getting double or
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: triple positive feedback from people saying, dude, don't sleep on Michigan.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: You know, if you work hard and you put yourself
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: in the right position, there is a chance that you
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: run into, you know, something in the pope and young category,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: or a two or a decent two or three year old,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: or even a chance at a dough And it's it's
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: people are offering me up their properties. People are one
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: to give me spots, and I'm kind of turning them
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: down at this point because I kind of want to
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: go in and do more of a self test and
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: rely on anybody else because I think me and you've
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: had a conversations like, dude, I'll do scouting for you,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I'll run show cameras for you, and I'm just like,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: calm down. Just I was all excited. I was like,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna help out here. But but I
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: like what you're getting at though. Too. I think it's
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: it would be a good personal challenge for you. Yeah,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: and you know, for me these days, it's not necessarily
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: about walking into a piece of property and trying to
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: kill the biggest buck that's there. I'm just down for
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: a new experience, right, And I think this is gonna
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: be It's gonna be an awesome learning experience for you
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: because you have done out of state like l cohns
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: and mule deer hunts, but you've never really done a
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: fully focused, just white tail out of state hunt before, right, Nope,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: never have. So this is gonna be. This is gonna
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: be awesome. You're gonna it's gonna be different, way different
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: than Iowa. It's gonna be fun, it's gonna be challenging. Um,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: and yeah, you know, we talk a lot about the
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I talk a lot about the challenges of Michigan, but
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: it is by no means a dogship place to hunt
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: like it's it's a it's a great spot. There's there's
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: good deer, there's good opportunities. Um, I mean you can,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: if anyone's watched my hunt's over the last ten years,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: you've seen that. You can. You can see some nice
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: deer and get some opportunities. Um. It's different, it's challenging
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: in certain ways, but by no means is it impossible
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: or not fun or not rewarding or any of that stuff. So, yeah, dude,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I'm curious though, given what you've heard from people recently,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: given you know, you're following my stories and stuff over
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: the last almost ten years, now, um, what kind of
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: expectations and goals do you have for it? So so
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I guess maybe maybe should rewind. First off, what's the plan?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Like when are you coming? For how long? Um? Let's
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: cover that, and then I want to talk expectations and goals. Yeah,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: so my goal, you know, obviously it's not ideal, right,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: but my goal is to come opening week, I believe,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and I am going to honestly, I think. Let me
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: pull up October here on my calendar, August September, October, alright,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: So Uh, October one is a Thursday, so I think
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I might come. I might drive up on Tuesday, the
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: twenty nine, and scout Wednesday before the season opens, and
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: then hunt to Thursday, Friday, Saturday, three day hunt and
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: drive back on Sunday. So I'm back late Sunday night.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: So I think that might be the the goal there
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: um expectation wise, public ground Michigan. You know it's not
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Iowa obviously, So I think I'm just I'm gonna I'm
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: not gonna put any expectations on myself. If it comes
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: down to last hunt, last day, and there's a doe
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: standing at ten yards twenty yards from my stand, I'm
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: sending an arrow her way. I guarantee that I would
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: love to walk away from that with something. And I
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: think that that would be a great you know, in
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: a way, it would be a great success. Now, what
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: about a buck? What's it going to take to send
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: an arrow at a buck? Let's say day one versus
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Dave four or three or whatever it is. Man, I
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: have to I have to answer that question by asking
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: you a question, right, So you know, I have the
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: luxury of hunting in a state that is known for
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: a higher age class, it's known for big antlers. It's
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I talk about that a lot. I talk
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: about how you know I passed this deer, but the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: playing field necessarily isn't the same in Michigan. So if hey,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I don't, I don't necessarily want to piss people off.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: You know, obviously I want to hunt my hunt. But
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: if I if I shoot a four cohorn or if
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I shoot like a fifty inch six pointer or whatever,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, like I would love to,
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: but I don't know if that would make me look
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: bad and and being like, oh, this dude's a hypocrite,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: or if I'm if I'm passing a three year old
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: in Iowa, but I'm not passing a two or three
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: year old in Michigan. I guess that's see what you're saying. Yeah, Um,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't feel bad about it because everyone's
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: got a hunter on hunt. And when you're on out
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: of state hunt and you're just exploring a new place,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: and I mean I get that. I would like when
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I went to Minnesota last year on that hunt, very
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: different experience, had no idea what to expect, new would
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: be low deer densities. I was going to take whatever
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: buck I saw. Um. But when I'm in Iowa or
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: when I'm hunting, like the spots in Michigan that I
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: know really well and I've hunted for a long time,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: I've got different goals and expectations. So I mean, I
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I would tell you that Michigan's age structure is definitely
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: different than I was, big time, very very different. But
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: it's getting better, Like from when I first started trying
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: to target mature bucks to where it is now, it's
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: definitely better. Like more and more people are passing on
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: younger bucks. You're seeing older deer more often. Um. But
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's leaps and bounds different than Iowa, Ohio
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: or Kansas. Um. I mean, as you've heard me talk about,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I would say I hunt a couple of pretty good spots.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Pretty good spots for Michigan is not the best. It's
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: not like a thousand acre managed farms. But I've got
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: a couple of small sixties seven I've got a couple
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: of good spots that are between sixty four and ninety
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: acres or so. And you know I'm seeing one to
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: like on one property, like the back Ford right there's
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: one mature buck I saw um and then got trail
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: camera pictures of a couple. Others never saw them, but
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I did get pictures on the other main Michigan spoy.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: I spent a lot of time on um. You know,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I had two three year olds that I saw and
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: passed on, and then one buck that I thought was four. Um.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Of all these deer though nothing I mean if we're
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: talking like antler size, nothing more than like one thirties
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: mid one thirties. UM. And then another farm my hunt,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: another property area I hunt, you know, uh, one three
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: year old, couple two year olds, that kind of thing.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Um So, I would tell you I think most people
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: around here would point to a three year old and
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: or pope and young type buck, depending on what criteria
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you want to look at, as being like a top
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: tier buck. Um So, if you somehow shot a three
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: year old or a pope and young buck on your
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: pop on your public plan hunt, that would be like
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: a super Bowl win I would consider for you. That'd
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: be huge, to be amazing. It'd be it's possible. I
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: would not tell it's not impossible, it's totally possible, but
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: it would be a huge win to do that. Um
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: even to kill a two year old, would I would say, like, damn,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: that's pretty good man, if you killed the two year old.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: If I walk into Michigan and kill a two or
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: three year old, and I hate to put it, uh
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: a rack size on it, but at the one mark pointer,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's that would be a win. Yeah.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I would be stoked. Even if I mean, even for
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: me to kill public land in type Buck that's three
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: years old, I'd be really stoked. And I live here.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Um So yeah, man, I think that's totally doable. I
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: don't know which area you're gonna end up choosing, but
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the two areas that you and I have talked about
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: that I know of and that I have history with
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: totally possible in either one of those spots. Um. So
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: that said, you could jack to play the game, and
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: that's that's the thing. Yeah, You're just gonna be excited
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: about the game in the process, and as long as
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: you enjoy that, then it's all gonna be good. Yeah.
• 37:53
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• 38:41
  Speaker 1: crazy when especially the hardcore guys, when we're sitting I
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: take off the satellite imagery. Once I find a place
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: that I want to hunt, I take off the satellite
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: imagery and I'm just looking at lines on a screen
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like evaluating that in my head. Okay,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: this is how I've seen de or moved through terrain.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: How many people are just like, dude, that that's some
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: crazy people stuff. Well, we are crazy, Dan, We definitely are. Um. Interestingly,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: the two areas that we've been talking about. Both of
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: them are much hillier than almost anywhere else in Michigan.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Um So you those if you end up settenly on
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: one of those two areas, you're going to have more
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: terrain features than most Most of Michigan, at least the
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Lower Peninsula is is pretty darned flat, open farm country.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: But those two chunks have a nice amount of topography
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: that will funnel deer movement, that will allow you to
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: make some guesses about deer bedding based on ridges and
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. That's not super common around here. Um
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: So that's why I think those are those are pretty cool.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Are you Are you still thinking about one of those
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: two or are you looking at anything different? Uh? So, yes,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: But I found a piece and I'm really interested in
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: this place. I'm not going to give too much detail
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: on it, but I think I could ba door it.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: So basically, here's what I'm looking at. I'll just tell
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: you what I'm looking for. I'm obviously looking for any
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: piece of public right now. Then I'm looking at the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: time of year that I'm going around. You know, I'm
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: gonna be hunting there early October, so I'm looking for
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: an egg field that borders it, maybe a private egg
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: field that that borders it. Then I'm looking at access
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: points on this piece of public where this access is,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: and so far I haven't found any of these giant
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: pieces where you're walking miles and miles to get in. However,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for us obstacles that I could possibly go through,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: like streams or rivers or creeks or or marsh where
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I can back door it and get something coming to
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: one of these pieces of private ground that it's gonna
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: take some effort to just number one get back there.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: So you know, I'll be hunting a corner or you know,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: off of a field edge or chline that may have
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: some obstacle between the parking lot and the private ground. Right,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: so there's there's these little slivers that might be hard
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: to get to. So that's kind of what I'm looking for.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: And then I'm basically just leaving way points there so
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I can come back and look look at it. That's
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good that's a good way to
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: approach it. Um, I think that makes sense for these
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: kinds of spots I know of. UM, some of my
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: own hunts in some of these places and a couple
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: of buddies that, um that exactly what you're describing has worked,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: where finding a crop field that's got bucks in, especially
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: pre opening day, and then looking back from that into
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the public land to try to figure out where that
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: buck betting area is, and then back during in between it.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Um is exactly how a mutual friend of ours killed
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: a nice buck. I'm one of these pieces and uh,
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: and it's how I've tried to a handful of times
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I've gone in there, um and I have seen some
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: you know, like possible three year old, possible one to
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: any type bucks in adjacent private land fields to these
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: places that we're talking about. Um, so they're they're in
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: the area that kind of buck. Um, it's just a
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: matter of getting a swing at them. And I don't
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: think that you're making a bad decision with that early season. Um,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: the rut you know, great, but there's will be a
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: bunch of hunters out there. I think you've got a
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: chance to have less pressure and the deer are gonna
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: be more comfortable that that opening day hunt is going
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: to be like a great, great opportunity. Um. I would
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: swing for the fences with that first time, like pick
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: your best spot probably, um, and go for it because
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: you've got a really good chance. I think that first day.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: What's the let me let me feel you out here. Right.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Let's say there's a farmer who his property butts up
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: next to public land, but he doesn't necessarily have any
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: timber on it. It's all egg from your experience. Do
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: do people let you walk through their fields to backdoor?
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: So I'm not necessari if I walk up to a
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: or I have a couple of places like this in Iowa,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to hunt your property. I just
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: want to walk through it to get to the public Yep.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I mean it's totally fifty fifty. There will absolutely people
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: that will be okay with that. But so many places
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: are bow hunted that you're gonna have a whole lot
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: of them that they said, Well, I've got guys that
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: are gonna be out there hunting. I don't want to
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: mess up their hunt. Um, but it can't hurt to
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: ask I had. I've had one person give me permission
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: to do that. Um, others have not. But it's worth
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: a shot. I mean, it's definitely a good idea. Are
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: you are you planning on? Um? What's your plan as
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: far as mornings and evenings, you're gona hunt every chance
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: you can, or you're gonna start What are you thinking there,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: I'm hunting everything. I think that's I mean, if I
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: was in Iowa, I probably would lay off early season
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: mornings unless I had actual trail camera data that's telling
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: me you need to go hunt right now. But because
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: this is a short time frame and only time you
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: can kill a deer's when you're actually in a tree stand,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna hunt mornings and evenings. Yeah, I think I
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: think that's I think that's smart. I think in in
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: that circumstance, i'd do the same thing. Um your first
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: night so here, I like, I'm really glad that you're
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: going to come in a night beforehand and scout. Um,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: will you allow me to help you at least scout
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: that night unless I've got something going. If I if
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I can get free, I'd love to be able to
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: provide at least a second set of eyes on a
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: different place. You get a cute a few places, um,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: because I'd be so huge if we can find a
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: nice buck or some deer that are on some adjacent
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: private that will help so much. Just helping you pinpoint
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: where to get in at. Yeah, and I have. I
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: don't know about you, but you know I've done these
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: elk hunts. I've done these mules your hunts now where
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: you're you're constantly figuring things out as you go. But
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: with my Iowa hunts, right yes, I'm mobile. I already
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: know where I need to go because I've been on
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: the property before. What I'm really excited about is this
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: like an early season grind, if that makes sense right
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: where it's I'm doing the same stuff that I would
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: do during the rut, but I'm doing it early season.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot more vegetation. But I think
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: what's what's gonna what I'm excited about is instead of
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: laying off on an observation hunt, I probably won't do
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: any observation hunts. I'm gonna go straight gut, I'm gonna
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: find the sign, and I'm gonna set up right over
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: top of it, not necessarily any field edges, but doing
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: what I do in Iowa, you know, I don't hunt
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: the field that just go in, but just go in
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: that much further and be aggressive on every hunt, and
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: if I bump something, at least I know where this
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: deer went. And I know when you know whatever, can
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I can I give you a little bit of, um,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: a little bit of Michigan insight, Okay, on a few
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: things on those lines. So I'm thinking about like how
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you're being aggressive and going in and trying to get
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: tight to stuff. Um So, like I said, there's not
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: as much of the hilly country as you have in Iowa,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: so you're gonna depending on where you pick, there's gonna
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: be more betting. Particularly buck betting is usually going to
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: be I think in the areas you're looking at, it's
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be on points extending into swampy stuff or
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: islands in the swamp. Um that's usually like the best
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: buck bed stuff around here. Um. Now, you might get
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: to a spot where there's some hilly stuff, but most
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: of the hilly stuff around here, though, it's pretty wide open,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: and a lot of that public land has trails along
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: the tops of the ridges and stuff, so there might
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: be less betting on those than you might otherwise think.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Um So not I'm making generalities here, generalizations, but um,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: I would really focus on those swamp points and islands.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: That's just like dynamite buck betting and a lot of
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: these Michigan spots. So think about that when you when
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you find your food source that you like and you're
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: trying to go back from their backtrack from there and okay,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: figure out where they're betted. Look for spots like that. UM.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: And then the other thing I tell you is when
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: it comes to like pressure, like there's gonna be hunting pressure,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: there are gonna be other hunters. UM. It can be variable,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: like you might get out, it might get to the
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: only spot, especially the first place we talked about. You
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: might get out there and there might not be anyone there.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: It might be all yours, But at the same time,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: there might also be guys never parking lot. I don't know. UM.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I would have a minimum of three to four backup plans. UM, like, Okay,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: here's my spot, I want to check out first. If
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: there's people that are there, Okay, then I gotta plan B.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Then I gotta plan C. Then I got a plan D.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: Like I had a day last October where I literally
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: had to go to my fourth spot for an evening
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: on I went out, Oh, there's three guys that went
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: to my number two, two guys that went to this one,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: three guys that are hiked into a spot ran by
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: two other people in tree stands. Um so, so I
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: would have a whole list. I have like ten and
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: and just so you you do never find yourself like,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: oh shoot, where am I going to go? Um? That
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: would be that would be a big recommendation. So I
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: like your ideas of scouting the fields the night before,
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: having a bunch of spots of backdoor and them through
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: tough to access places. I think that's smart. Um. Let
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: me ask you a question. What about are there on
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: the Michigan public Are they allowed to drive four wheelers
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: or trucks into it? So most all the spots that
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: we're talking about, no, so you shouldn't have anyone driving
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: in there. On that stuff. There will be like mountain
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: bikes though, and I don't know what the e bike
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: rules are tell you the truth, I'm unsure about that.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Um So, I wouldn't worry about trucks though in the
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: spots we've looked at. Um what else? Uh, if you're
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: leaving up to restands, they're supposed to be labeled with
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: your name and information on it. That's a little thing
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: to keep. I know you're probably gonna be running a gunning.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: But if you decide to leave one up for a
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: couple of days for some reason, that's what you're supposed
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: to do. UM. I don't know what other things like
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: high level would be helpful. I don't know what other
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: things are you wondering about that I might be able
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: to give you some insight too, you know, I really don't.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I really don't know at this point. I, like I said,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm still in straight up scouting mode. UM. Obviously
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: only digital scouting can only only tell you so much.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: But I'm just looking for corners. I'm looking for, you know,
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: especially inside corners right where the the property is on
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: the outside of it and the field might go into
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: the private or excuse me, the private field might go
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: into the public. And looking for those corners. UM. I've
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: seen deer throughout the years take advantage of those places. UM.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: But a lot of it has to do you know,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: just be straight up. Um. You know, once once I
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: get there, once I get the boots on the ground,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I'll find out more information. But it's funny that you
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: mentioned these islands and these peninsulas into marshes, because I
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: have let see one, two, three, four points marked on
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: this one piece of public that I've been scouting already
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: that are exactly what you said they are. It's like
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: a point that leads into public or a point that
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: leads into a marsh. So most of these spots that
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: get protected his public land here in Michigan, they're they're
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: usually the spots that couldn't be farmed, and the spots
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: that couldn't be farmed are the wet stuff. So a
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: lot of the stuff that we have is public is
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: super swampy um, which which is good because that's the
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: stuff that most hunters don't want to go into. So
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: you've got you have the possibility to hold some deer um.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I know we've talked about this before, but even when
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I'm looking for private into hunting Michigan, I almost always
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: been trying to get something with a big swamp because
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: that is like sometimes the only place where buck can
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: survive a gun season. So definitely keen in on that. Um.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: Oh crap, I had something I was just oh, man,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I knew what I was going to ask you. I
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: think you may have answered it in a text message.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: But am I allowed to pull my truck into a
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: parking lot and sleep there overnight? Yeah? So I actually
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I didn't respond to that question because I don't know. Um,
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I think the answer is probably no. Actually I'm unsure,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: but I do know that there are campgrounds um near
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: some of these places where you can camp, but you
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: have to pay the camping fee. Um. But yeah, I
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: I can point to to a couple of close campgrounds
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: to some of these places that Oh, I know what
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: I was gonna tell you. Um, let me write this
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: down before I forget. Yeah, so camping options are relatively
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: close to some of those places that we talked about.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: And also if you are hunting in some spots that
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: are kind of close to me, like I told you,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: you're always welcome to camp at my place too. Yeah.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: So the other thing I was thinking about this is
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: kind of a hot tip that I use a lot
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: here in Michigan. Um, it just takes some legwork that
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: most people probably don't want to do, but in Michigan
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: we're very dependent on other folks. Managing was similar, with
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: a similar mindset to get to the point to have
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: some older box and bigger box. So the good spots
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: of Michigan are usually good because either no one's allowed
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: to hunt around it or be there's a bunch of
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: landowners or a bunch of like minded people that have
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: all decided to pass on younger deer um. And so
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: in Michigan we have I think the highest number of
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: q d m A co ops in the nation, so
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: co ops as you know, Dan, or these groups of
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: landowners that decide, hey, we're all going to kind of
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: manage our deer hunting, our deer populations somewhat similarly, and
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: we're all gonna work to try to pass on your
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: year and a half olds or two and a half
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: year olds or whatever it is. Um. So there's a
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: bunch of these scattered all around the state. And something
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: that I've done when trying to hunt public land around
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: here or trying to find new private land hunt is
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: trying to find pieces that are close to those or
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: adjacent to those, or in that zone where there's a
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: better chance than otherwise that people are passing on younger
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: deer um. So I would look up qu to MC coops,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: find out where some of those are, and see if
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: there's any of that are near public land you can hunt.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Another thing I do that's kind of creepy, but I
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: do it. I did this when I was trying to
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: find the back forty property to to buy that. And
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: then also when I'm looking for just places to ask
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: permission or anything, I would you know, google the area
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: and names of people that own land around there, or
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: hunters and look on Facebook or look on Google and
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: try to see if people have posted pictures of deer
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: they shot around there, or if there's been a news
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: article about a big buck that was shot around here,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: or if there's a buck pole picture for the QT
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: make co Op in that area. Different things like that
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: can just give you an idea like, oh, yeah, this
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: area is pretty decent, or oh wow, this property that's
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: right next to that piece of public land. That dude
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: posted a picture of two four year olds he shot
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: last year. That's interesting. UM. Basically Facebook, yeah, Facebook, Instagram,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: Google stock these areas, UM, it's it really can help. UM.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: I think that's something that is worth doing if you're
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: trying to come in and find a new place, figure
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: out if it's worth spending some time. UM. Now I
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: can tell you, based off my own previous stocking that
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: the two areas we've talked about I have potential for
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: those reasons. UM, but you might find some other spots
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: similarly to that too, So that's something for you to
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: keep in mind and for other people in other states whatever.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's something you can do anywhere,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: um and help a little bit. Yeah. I don't know, man,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: I'm just you know, every time, whether it's an elk
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: hunt or a mule er hunt or now this hunt,
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I just keep going back to the excitement of planning.
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I don't like, if if there was another job out
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: there other than doing what I'm doing, I think it
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: would help people playing hunts, right, and just it was like,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: you know, like, hey, man, um, I'm gonna gonna draw
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: an Iowa tag and I want public ground or I'm
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: gonna draw this state. I help them go out and
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: achieve that, like kind of what this conversation is right now, right,
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: I think that would be so cool just to al right,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: so I'm looking at this terrain right here, you might
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: want to do this and this, this this, you know, hey,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: this guy does this whatever. I don't know. It's funny
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: mentioned that because honestly, like, I have this boost of
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: excitement because I'm getting to do that with you right now.
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: So I totally get what you're saying, because that is
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: so much fun. Um he Speaking of camping places, what's
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: your plan like camping set up? Are you gonna do
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: a tent or you to sleep out of your truck?
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Are you bring a camper? What's your thoughts there? Yeah,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: I'll probably Um, I got a top around my truck,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: so I think I'm just gonna stuff all my stuff
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: in the back and you know, cook my meals inside
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: the cab. If it's nice out, you know, be outside.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: If I go to a campground, I'm still gonna I'm
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: gonna bring my tent with me just in case. But
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: I think just camping out of my truck is the best.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: You know, sleeping in the back is just gonna be
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: the best thing because I don't have to set up
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: or tear down anything. Just wake up, eat my breakfast,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: get after it. Yeah. Man, that's that's my favorite too.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I think that's it's you're so mobile that way, you're
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: not stuck in any place. So when you set up
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: the tent, and not that I don't do this sometimes,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: but when you set the tent, you're a little bit
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: burdened or you're a little bit locked in, Like the
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: you just have this new feeling like I don't really
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: want to tear it down, all this stuff and go
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: to a new place. But when it's always in your truck,
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: if stuff isn't going good after the day and a
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: half or two days, you're like, whatever, let's just go
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: to the next spot. Ums, nothing holding you down. So
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I like that truck camper camping lifestyle for this kind
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: of hunt. Um so so that and just you know,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: other than the potential to maybe have some electricity at
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: some point, you know, like I don't know, charge my
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: osonics or you know, charge my phone or something like that,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I might, I might take you up on I don't
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: know your your garage or something like that. But other
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: other than that, man, I think it's pretty self sufficient,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: especially on that time frame, you know, really just three days,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I'll be able to have a cooler of food that
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: that will last me, uh deer salami and cheese and
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: maybe a couple of beers and water, and I don't
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: necessarily need to take a shower, you know, just like
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: kind of a Western hunt and go for it. I
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: love it. I love it. That's a lot of fun.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'll bug you to use my shower and
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: to eat good food. If you're willing to take it,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: but I also fully support your dirt bag lifestyle of
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: choices to right there. You know how it is, though,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: there's there's something about going out and doing it all
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: by yourself that it's not like I don't want to
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: hang out with people, but I I just want to.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know, there's this this solitude that we all
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: kind of and and not the quarantine solitude, but like
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: the solitude right just like go out and be closer
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: to nature and be by ourselves. And I don't know,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: it's like I I long for that kind of thing. Uh,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: right there with you? What do you think we should
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: do as far as covering this, Um, I feel like
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: we should do at a minimum a pre hunt podcast
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: and a post hunt podcast. But I wonder if it
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: to do like a daily breakdown. I'm sure you're gonna
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: do your own thing, but I wonder if we could
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: do some stuff together kind of to to capture it
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: in a special way. I think what we should do
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: is the day that I come into Michigan, I'm gonna
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I'll go scout or we can go scout together or whatever.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: Then we do a podcast after we do like a
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: morning or afternoon of scouting. Yep, Okay, we do that
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: and maybe halfway through the hunt we can do a
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: touch base and then after the three days we do
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: a full one. Yeah, that works for me. Um, I
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be fun. I think it's be awesome,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: and uh, I gotta I don't know. There's there's nothing
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: I enjoy. There's a few things I enjoy more than
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: when you've got a group of buddies that are all
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: at hunting and then someone has some success and then
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: you get the phone call and everyone's gonna come out
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: and help track or help with whatever it is. Like
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: that group, that that excuse for some camaraderie during hunting seasons.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: Like my one of my very favorite things absolutely how
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: far does further to live from you? About an hour?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: An hour? Okay? So he definitely is in in range. Um,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: And you know our buddy Andy mayor buddy Andy Bradley,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: Dusty Corey, all those guys are right in this general zone.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: So you'll we're gonna have to bug you at least
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: one night with beers in the campfire or something. Yeah.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm up for I'm up for just about anything. Man.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: I I uh, I don't know, I'm it's just another
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: hunt to get excited about. You know. One thing to
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: keep in mind, this is a little bit of a
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: jump from stuff to be excited about, but something you
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: will have to take into account if you do shoot
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: a deer. You know, we've got c W D REGs here. Um,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: So if you shoot a buck, you're gonna have to
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: keep it out and either drop everything off at a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: taxidermist if you end up wanting to do amount. I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: maybe if you shoot some huge old gagger buck and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: you want to get him mounted, you'll have to drop
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: it off at a taxidermist here in um within the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: county because you can't cross out of the CTBD counties
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: to to do that. UM. Or you can cut off
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: the antlers and remove all the brain tissue, all tissue
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: and stuff off it, so you just have the skull
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: plate in the antlers. You can take that out and
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: you can take de boned meat out um. But otherwise
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: you'd have to do it within the Little Couple county region. Yeah,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: deal with all that. Yeah, if I shoot a deer,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: I probably just debone it all right there. Um, Can
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: I have it processed out of state? Like I can
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: take all the meat out of off the bone, yep,
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: package it and then I can take it back to
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Iowa and use my yes, my process okay, yep. So
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: if you de bone everything, um, you're good. You'll just
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: have to it would be a good idea to get
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: it tested. Um. That would be like the smart thing
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: to do would be to drop off the head or
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: stop at a check station where they can remove the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: lymph notes to get tested, just to be on the
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: safe side, um, and to kind of do our part
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: for uh citizen science. Um. But then yes, you could.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: You could take the skull cap and the antlers, and
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: you could take the boneless meat and take off with
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: all that stuff, and you'll be good to go. All
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: your deer get tested. Yep. I'm doing testing forever for everything.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: Though no positive um so in the county that I'm in, Uh,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: there's not been a positive yet. But there's a county
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: adjacent to us where there is positives. Um so. Um.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: One of the spots you and I have talked about
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: should be pretty far from where the CWD stuff is.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: One of them is a little bit closer, um, But
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: neither one of them, neither one I think, is in
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: a county yet it's they're both adjacent. Um, but still
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: smart to just be safe. Absolutely. Um. But yeah, it's
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: it's a little bit of added regulation, but it's not
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: a huge inconvenience. The whole process is really easy. I've
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: done it multiple times now. You just if it's a dough,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: you just head in there, you cut the head off,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: put it in a bag, put in a box, and
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: fill out a quick form and or there'll be people
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: there they can help you do all that. Sometimes it's
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: just a drop stations. Sometimes there's people there to help
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: you with all that stuff. It takes less than five minutes.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: So not a big deal at all. Yeah, cool man. Um. Yeah,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: So Michigan, I'm pretty excited about it. I'm gonna keep
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: doing my uh obviously, i love talking to people. I'm
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna keep doing my digital scouting and anybody
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: who's listening out there who you know. I'm not looking
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: for places to hunt necessarily, I can do that on
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: my own, but I just love communicating with people who,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: let's say, hunt Michigan and have maybe tips and tricks
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: about you know, like this. This whole marsh hunting is
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: new to me because I don't hunt very many marshes
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: here in Iowa. Most of it either if it's wet,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: it's a river bottom type ground. Right, So just talking
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: strategy with people or you know, hey, don't maybe there's
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: a regulation that I need to know about or something,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: you know, just like just like an open conversation with people,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: is you know more than welcome. Well, uh, I'm sure
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: you'll get a lot of help from people. And I
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: know a lot of folks are excited to, uh, to
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: welcome you to the land of the I don't know
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: what it is. Not the land of the giants. It's
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: the land of the of the some opportunity we'll call
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. When I
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: think of when I think of Michigan, I think of
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: a a state that has a deep tradition in hunting
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: and fishing. Um. Then another state that comes to mind
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: right off the top of my head is Wisconsin. Right.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: So I think of Michigan as people who love to
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: hunt and fish and take advantage of all these opportunities
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: that we have in front of us, and who are
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: sportsman at heart. And I'm excited to go hunt where
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: these people hunt. Yeah, the only regret I have about
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: this is that I wish you could get up to
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: our northern Michigan deer camp and experience that, because that
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: that is the essence of Michigan hunting tradition up there,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: getting out in the date in the big woods. It's
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: totally different up there, like the cabin in the middle
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: of nowhere and the wall of little tiny antler hers
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: and the wood burning stove. That is uh, that is
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: super cool. So how far is ken Roban from where
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: you live? How many hours north of that? Three and
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: a half hours north? Okay, so not that's not too
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: it's not too terrible. If you if you tag out
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: early and you want to just go for a day
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: trip and check it out, we should do it. Yeah,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: I know. No, let me ask you this. I love food,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: and so Iowa is known for the big fat pork
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: tenderloins right like that. They're as big as your play
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: and they give you like a little bun basically, and
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: you know what, you know what I'm talking about. I
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: don't know. If I do, Oh, buddy, then you haven't
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: really hunted Iowa, I guess not if you haven't taken
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: advantage of the of the pork. The Iowa pork tender Yeah,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: I've always done like fish fries and stuff. Is like
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: the special meal I get out there. Yeah, the I
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: can remember that we went. What was that, like the
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: all you could eat catfish dinner that one night we're there.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: But I'm talking. I'm talking about like Iowa is known
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: because we have a huge pork producing community. I was
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: known for these big giant pork tender loins. It's a sandwich, right,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: It's like a big breaded kind of thing, red readed
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: pork tender loin. What is Michigan known for? Oh ah,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: it's a great question. So Northern Michigan, like the up
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: has a thing that's definitely like I can point of
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: right away. It's called a pasty. You ever heard of
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: a pasty? It is like oversized kel zone kind of
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: or a empanada. So it's like a pastry that is
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: filled with meat and potatoes and rudabaga and other vegetables
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: and like a gravy and it's sealed inside this pastry. Um.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: That is like an Upper Peninsula tradition um, but Lower
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: Peninsula gosh, we're kind of kind of milk toast. We're
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: just kind of you get a standard Midwest fair lots
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: of greasy fried bar food. Um Man, I'm sure someone's
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: gonna be like, how did you forget about this right?
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: Blanking on what our special food is? I don't know.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm thinking of I think of this,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: but I just imagined you and your crew up in
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: the cabin during the November gun season eating a like
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: just passing around a jar of pickled eggs. Yeah, you know,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: that's kind of think my uncle would bring up there totally.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: So yes, that kind of thing could definitely fit into
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: a Northern Michigan vibe. Um Man, I'm I just feel
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: like I'm letting you down here not being a don
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: to think of what our traditional food is. But um,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's just it's it's anything, but just the
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: quantity is lots of it. Yeah, maybe that's our tradition.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: Um we will have to think about this and come
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: back and have some kind of traditional good meal at
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: some point. Someone will somebody will tell me about it
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: just from listening to this, someone like Mark Kenyon is
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: a dipshit. Our our state food is this? Yeah, please
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: please inform me as well so I never made this
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: mistake again, you're letting down there. I know it. Well,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: it's not the first time. Dan, alright, man, well is
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: there anything else on your mind about the Michigan Hunt
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: that we should cover off on, or any other questions
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: or not? Really, Um, I do want to you know,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: I know you don't want to put any pressure on it,
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: but I do want to stop and just take a
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: look at the back forty see what the hype is about.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Not necessarily drive through it or hunted. I just want
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: to take a look and see just like the terrain,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: right for sure, that's a great idea. And yes, it's
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: not so far away that we can't scoot over there,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: and you know, we could probably do a little drive
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: around some the edges and pull camera or something like
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: that that I want to do anyways, and give you
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  Speaker 1: a view of it too. So what's nice about it
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  Speaker 1: is it's in one of those other one of those
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  Speaker 1: rare places that has a little bit of a hill
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  Speaker 1: to it, so you can get a nice little vantage
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  Speaker 1: and see across parts from a few locations, which which
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  Speaker 1: can't do in most areas. So I'm excited for you
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  Speaker 1: to see it. I'm excited. I'm just excited to kind
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  Speaker 1: of show my little neck of the woods to you.
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  Speaker 1: Since I've got to spend so much time over by
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  Speaker 1: your stuff. Um, it's gonna be fun to get to
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  Speaker 1: return the favor. Yeah, absolutely, man, I'm jacked and uh
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  Speaker 1: I think you know what, what would happen? What would happen,
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  Speaker 1: actually happen if I shoot a frank right out of
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  Speaker 1: the gate first time ever day one an all. Obviously
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: it's the os are against that. But would would people
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  Speaker 1: hate me more than they already do? Oh, without a doubt,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: you would be loathed. But that makes it dance gonna
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: be like, I don't know what you guys are talking about.
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  Speaker 1: This piece of cake. This is easy. There's booers around
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  Speaker 1: every tree, every tree, and then I never could give
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: you sh about Iowa. And after that, Yeah, I I
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: hope for you to have the best luck possible, but
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: that would make my life more difficult if that happened.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: To defend myself, but not too much luck, right, It's like,
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  Speaker 1: but please not too much. Do me a favor and
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  Speaker 1: only shoot like one. You know what would be amazing
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: is if you shoot a nice buck and I'm gonna
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: be taking a stab at my best buck on that
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  Speaker 1: first night or two as well. So I'm gonna try
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: to kill Tran the first night or two. So you
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  Speaker 1: shoot a buck and I kill Tran within the same
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  Speaker 1: day or two, and we will have the most epic,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: celebratory podcasts of Wired Haunt all time. Would this be
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: the podcast where we both get drunk on air? Yes,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: within within safe limits, we will definitely do that. And yeah,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: we would have open can policy for the podcast. Oh nice,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: what's the what's the beer? A choice in Michigan? You
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: should know this, hopefully. Man, It's so diverse, but happy
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: be a Michigan brew brewery. Uh so, Founders is a
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  Speaker 1: great Michigan brewery. Um so I'm going for like all day.
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  Speaker 1: I p A would be a very good choice. Or
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  Speaker 1: another favorite of mine is the Dirty Blonde by at
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Water Brewing, which is out Detroit. Founders out of Grand
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  Speaker 1: Rapids where I grew up. So either one of those
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  Speaker 1: would be really good choices. That just tells you how
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: different we actually are in almost every aspect of life,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: you know, Like here you are, you know, it's like, hey,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: tell me about a Michigan beer and you're like, well, yeah,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: we got all these uh these craft beers. It's so
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: delicious and ship just like, Man, I'm gonna bring a
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: thirty pack more than likely of bush light because I've
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: been drinking that ship since eighth grade. Hey man, more
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  Speaker 1: power to you. Well, I'm pumped about this. I'm very excited.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun to be
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: able to follow your preparations throughout the spring and summer.
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  Speaker 1: And um, I'm gonna have a hard time not wanting
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: to do drive by as these places and get your reports.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna do my best to leave
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: you alone and not interfere with your planning. But I'm
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: also excited. Don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Mark like help and saying, oh dude, I saw a
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: great deer in this field the other day are two
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: completely different things. Like information is great, but I don't
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: want anybody to hold my hand. Okay, okay, fair enough.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Well we'll find a healthy middle point. So just tell
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  Speaker 1: me where Andy May hunts and we'll be good. Yeah.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: I can point you to a couple of spots right now,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: He's like, he's happy. Don't talk about it. I'm gonna
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: get a phone calling about noon on Thursday. Alright, dude, Well,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: good stuff, Thanks for taking the time to catch up. Um,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: be safe, keep the family healthy, and uh let's talk
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: again soon. Alright, guys, that is it for us today.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, thanks for being part of this community,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: and thanks for being part of this larger community we
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: call humans, we call Americans or North Americans, whatever it is.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: Wherever you call home, make sure you are thinking about others,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: practicing safe social distancing, being careful not to infect other people,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: just being safe and smart. That's all we can do
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: right now. And also support your local businesses in whatever
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: way you can. You probably can't sit in a restaurant
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: or go to many stores right now, but place to
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: take out order or place an online order at a
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: local pro shop or bookstore, whatever kind of thing you
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: want to support. There's a lot of people out there
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: right now that are struggling due to a lot of
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: these current changes and channel and just so do what
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: you can give back if possible, And until next time,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: thank you and stay wired to hunt h