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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, let's kick things off. Early twenty twenty one, Caliubia, Egypt. Mmm,
- 0:05Speaker 1: try and picture it. A small working class village. The
- 0:10Speaker 1: morning's probably just starting. Maybe some canal fog you hear
- 0:12Speaker 1: distant sounds pretty typical.
- 0:14Speaker 2: M hmmm, quite normal, until it wasn't exactly.
- 0:17Speaker 1: Suddenly everything shifts near the Saba drainage stream. That's, you know,
- 0:21Speaker 1: a local canal there. Locals stumble upon something just horrifying.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Yeah, it's visually arresting. Like you said, it wasn't even
- 0:29Speaker 2: a whole body, just a part of a human torso,
- 0:31Speaker 2: just a.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Segment cut discarded. It screams foul play immediately.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Absolutely, and the condition, well, it showed significant decomposition. This
- 0:40Speaker 2: person hadn't just died. They'd been missing for weeks, maybe longer.
- 0:43Speaker 1: Wow, in a place I call Ubia, that kind of
- 0:45Speaker 1: calculated violence must have sent shockwaves. Oh.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Absolutely terrifying for a tight knit community. But you know,
- 0:51Speaker 2: the police they had a suspect in mind almost instantly,
- 0:54Speaker 2: because there was only.
- 0:54Speaker 1: One person missing fitting that general time.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Framem precisely the description match the only main missing person case,
- 1:01Speaker 2: a man named Amen.
- 1:02Speaker 1: Amen. He's central to this whole deep dive and our
- 1:06Speaker 1: mission today isn't just about how he died, but about
- 1:09Speaker 1: how his life, his actual identity was sort of turned
- 1:12Speaker 1: against him. He wasn't just some guy who committed crimes.
- 1:15Speaker 1: He had this official designation under Egyptian law, registered risk.
- 1:21Speaker 1: Waitn am.
- 1:22Speaker 2: That label is absolutely key. We need to understand it.
- 1:25Speaker 1: What does that actually mean? Because it sounds like it
- 1:28Speaker 1: became the very thing his killers used to hide behind.
- 1:31Speaker 2: It's crucial. Registered risk isn't just a street name, It's
- 1:35Speaker 2: a formal police designation for high level repeat offenders. It
- 1:39Speaker 2: means surveillance, sure, but maybe more importantly social death.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Social death how so well.
- 1:45Speaker 2: The police track you obviously, but the community they basically
- 1:48Speaker 2: write you off, complete alienation. Amen. Was this label he
- 1:52Speaker 2: started young back in Minya early nineties?
- 1:55Speaker 1: What kind of crimes?
- 1:56Speaker 2: Robbery, serious assault, often with blades, you know, knives, swords,
- 1:59Speaker 2: that sort of his life was this cycle prison, get out,
- 2:02Speaker 2: say you'll change, then relapse almost immediately.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Just operating totally outside the norms. And then he meets
- 2:09Speaker 1: zinob el Arga in ninety eight.
- 2:11Speaker 2: Uugh znob his match in a very dark way. Perhaps
- 2:16Speaker 2: she wasn't exactly clean herself. History of assault fighting Ray.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Didn't she get her nickname el Arga the lame from
- 2:21Speaker 1: a sword injury in a fight.
- 2:23Speaker 2: That's the story. Yes, a severe leg injury. But here's
- 2:26Speaker 2: the really interesting psychological bit. Her attitude towards Amin's registered
- 2:32Speaker 2: risk status.
- 2:33Speaker 1: She wasn't ashamed ashamed.
- 2:35Speaker 2: No, quite the opposite, fiercely proud like it was this
- 2:38Speaker 2: badge of honor, this source of power and intimidation that
- 2:41Speaker 2: you know they shared.
- 2:41Speaker 1: It's a unique dynamic. Kay. Let's jump forward twenty seventeen.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Their daughter gets married.
- 2:46Speaker 2: Right, she marries Mohammed. He's much younger, only twenty at
- 2:49Speaker 2: the time, and he's basically Aiman's protege, met him working
- 2:52Speaker 2: the carnival circuit.
- 2:53Speaker 1: So already a pretty tangled, uh intense family web.
- 2:57Speaker 2: There, definitely, And then things really take a turn in
- 2:59Speaker 2: early twenty twenty one, the daughter dies reportedly in natural causes,
- 3:03Speaker 2: that's the official line.
- 3:04Speaker 1: And Aimin and Zinapp decide to move in with Muhammad
- 3:07Speaker 1: into the daughter's apartment exactly.
- 3:08Speaker 2: They move into her place in Colubia, and what unfolds
- 3:11Speaker 2: over the next five months is just sheer chaos.
- 3:14Speaker 1: Paid a picture of that household for us, Yeah, because
- 3:16Speaker 1: it sounds like more than just arguments. It sounds like
- 3:18Speaker 1: a pressure cooker.
- 3:19Speaker 2: It was a completely toxic ecosystem built around Amen's absolute
- 3:24Speaker 2: control financially for instance, how so every single pound earned
- 3:29Speaker 2: from their carnival rides every day had to go straight
- 3:32Speaker 2: to Amin. He decided who got what, okay.
- 3:35Speaker 1: So total financial control and that likely spilled.
- 3:38Speaker 2: Over oh constantly. The fights between him and Zinab weren't
- 3:41Speaker 2: just shouting matches. They were loud daily and often got
- 3:46Speaker 2: intensely physical, violent, And the neighbors must have heard all
- 3:49Speaker 2: this day in day out. Did they try to do anything?
- 3:53Speaker 1: They did initially tried to intervene, you know, mediate, but Amen, well,
- 3:58Speaker 1: he was a registered risk, intimidating, volatile. He aggressively shut
- 4:02Speaker 1: them down, threatened them, so they backed off completely. The
- 4:05Speaker 1: whole community basically made a pact ignore that house. Total isolation,
- 4:10Speaker 1: and that isolation that's critical. It removed any potential witnesses,
- 4:15Speaker 1: any outside check on what was happening inside those walls.
- 4:18Speaker 2: That's silence from the outside, that isolation. It really paves
- 4:21Speaker 2: the way for what happens next, doesn't it. It does,
- 4:23Speaker 2: because after five months of this non stop volatility, suddenly silence.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Aimon disappears, but it's not like there's a final dramatic
- 4:32Speaker 1: fight heard, just quiet, the daily explosion stop.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Eerie quiet. And when neighbors eventually asked Zenob, maybe cautiously,
- 4:41Speaker 2: where Amen was, what did she say? Oh, very casually,
- 4:44Speaker 2: he traveled for work, which, given Amen's lifestyle his criminal
- 4:47Speaker 2: history actually sounded plausible, plausible.
- 4:50Speaker 1: Enough that the neighbors, already scared and wanting nothing to
- 4:52Speaker 1: do with them, just accepted it.
- 4:54Speaker 2: They did, they didn't push it. And here's where that
- 4:57Speaker 2: registered risk status becomes the perfect cover. How so, for
- 5:01Speaker 2: a month and a half, think about that, six weeks,
- 5:04Speaker 2: neither Zinob Normahammad reports him missing, no police report, no
- 5:08Speaker 2: calls to family, nothing.
- 5:09Speaker 1: They just carry on work in the carnival rides, going
- 5:12Speaker 1: about their business like nothing.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Happened, exactly, acting completely normal, Which raises the question why
- 5:17Speaker 2: didn't the police notice sooner a registered risk vanishes? Surely
- 5:22Speaker 2: that triggers something you think, so well, it did, but
- 5:25Speaker 2: not in the way you'd expect because of the label.
- 5:29Speaker 2: A detective did notice Aimin wasn't at the local carnival,
- 5:33Speaker 2: but the immediate assumption.
- 5:34Speaker 1: He's off committing a crime somewhere else.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Then go. His own reputation provided the initial alibi. They
- 5:40Speaker 2: figured he'd just moved on to his next illicit venture.
- 5:43Speaker 2: The system designed to watch him inadvertently helped hide his death,
- 5:47Speaker 2: so his.
- 5:47Speaker 1: Own status blinded the police at first. When did they
- 5:51Speaker 1: start suspecting something was actually wrong.
- 5:53Speaker 2: It wasn't until they started some routine surveillance on Zinob
- 5:58Speaker 2: and Mohammed, just standard seizure when a registered risk goes
- 6:01Speaker 2: off radar. They seem normal, riding Amen's motorcycle together to
- 6:05Speaker 2: the carnival, keeping up appearances totally, but behind the scenes
- 6:09Speaker 2: checks confirmed Amen hadn't left Collubia, he hadn't gone through
- 6:13Speaker 2: any checkpoints, hadn't surfaced anywhere else. He was still somewhere nearby.
- 6:16Speaker 1: Okay, so now the police are thinking he's definitely still here.
- 6:21Speaker 1: The neighbors reported months of horrific fights, right.
- 6:24Speaker 2: And now there's the sudden total silence from the house.
- 6:27Speaker 2: The pieces start clicking into place. They knew it was
- 6:29Speaker 2: a volatile situation, and now the main source of that
- 6:32Speaker 2: volatility is missing, but definitely not gone far.
- 6:34Speaker 1: And then boom the torso.
- 6:36Speaker 2: That discovery in the sawbust dream, it's the catalyst. Amen's
- 6:39Speaker 2: the only missing person, it could realistically be the circumstantial
- 6:43Speaker 2: evidence slams right onto their doorstep.
- 6:45Speaker 1: So they bring Zionab in.
- 6:46Speaker 2: Yes, And by this point news of the body part
- 6:49Speaker 2: had spread like wildfire through the small village. The pressure
- 6:53Speaker 2: was immense, public speculation, police focus, and she breaks almost immediately,
- 6:58Speaker 2: collapses under question, confesses everything, killing Aimen about six weeks earlier,
- 7:03Speaker 2: with Muhammad's.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Help, Gay the motive why murder? Why not just leave? Yeah,
- 7:08Speaker 1: especially if he was so awful.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Control freedom and yes, money, Zinob wanted out from his violence,
- 7:15Speaker 2: his grip on the finances. But it was colder than
- 7:18Speaker 2: just escape. Colder how they knew consciously knew that because
- 7:22Speaker 2: he was a registered risk, his disappearance wouldn't raise too
- 7:25Speaker 2: many alarms. People would just assume he met a violent
- 7:28Speaker 2: end somewhere else, maybe in a deal gone wrong or
- 7:31Speaker 2: a fight.
- 7:31Speaker 1: So they use his own identity against him, as they're
- 7:34Speaker 1: built in excuse.
- 7:35Speaker 2: Precisely, it gave them plausible deniability, and the planning wasn't
- 7:38Speaker 2: spur of the moment rage. They had been plotting this
- 7:41Speaker 2: during those five chaotic months, meticulously.
- 7:45Speaker 1: What was the actual plan? How did they do it?
- 7:46Speaker 2: It was chillingly methodical. They waited for their routine returning
- 7:50Speaker 2: from the carnival one evening, Znob took the first step,
- 7:54Speaker 2: which was drugging him heavily, sleeping pills mixed into his food,
- 7:58Speaker 2: his drink enough to completely incapacitate.
- 8:01Speaker 1: Him, and once he was unconscious, they killed him.
- 8:04Speaker 2: Zinob confessed she was the main one, the primary actor
- 8:07Speaker 2: in the killing itself.
- 8:08Speaker 1: And then the disposal that speaks volumes about their mindset.
- 8:11Speaker 2: It really does, dismemberment into three parts head, upper body,
- 8:15Speaker 2: lower body, each part sealed carefully in plastic bags.
- 8:19Speaker 1: Why three parts?
- 8:20Speaker 2: Just efficiency, probably to make disposal easier, less conspicuous, And
- 8:25Speaker 2: they timed it perfectly those dead hours, just before dawn.
- 8:29Speaker 2: The village is asleep, isolated.
- 8:31Speaker 1: How long did the disposal take?
- 8:33Speaker 2: Less than three hours start to finish. They scattered the
- 8:36Speaker 2: three bags in different remote spots, canals, ditches, but all
- 8:39Speaker 2: within the village area. Then back home, clean up.
- 8:42Speaker 1: And back to work the next day, back to the.
- 8:43Speaker 2: Carnival the very next day, like nothing had happened that.
- 8:47Speaker 1: Speed, the immediate return to normalcy. It's profoundly disturbing. But
- 8:52Speaker 1: then Mohammed talks and the story gets another layer.
- 8:54Speaker 2: Right, it does we assume Aimin was the sole monster,
- 8:57Speaker 2: the controller, But Muhammed he points the finger squarely at Zinup.
- 9:02Speaker 1: Saying she was the manipulative one exactly.
- 9:04Speaker 2: He claimed she constantly provoked Amen, intentionally fueled the vites,
- 9:08Speaker 2: maybe to keep up that intimidating registered risk image. She
- 9:11Speaker 2: was apparently so proud of that. She wasn't just a
- 9:14Speaker 2: victim of the abuse, but an active participant in cultivating
- 9:17Speaker 2: that dangerous persona.
- 9:18Speaker 1: So, according to Mohammad, she was using Amin's reputation too. Wow.
- 9:22Speaker 1: So what did he say when she first suggested murder?
- 9:26Speaker 2: He says he refused, flat out wanted no part of it.
- 9:30Speaker 2: He just wanted out of the whole situation.
- 9:32Speaker 1: But she didn't let him walk away.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Not, according to him, she gave him this horrifying ultimatum, basically,
- 9:38Speaker 2: help me kill Amen or I will kill you and
- 9:41Speaker 2: I'll pin it on Amin. His registered risk status makes
- 9:44Speaker 2: him the perfect fall guy.
- 9:46Speaker 1: So she threatened to use Amin's reputation to frame him
- 9:49Speaker 1: from Mohammed's murder if he didn't cooperate in Amen's actual.
- 9:54Speaker 2: Murder, that's the claim. An impossible choice, help kill his
- 9:58Speaker 2: father in law or be killed himself. And have his
- 10:00Speaker 2: father in law blamed. He chose to help kill Amen.
- 10:03Speaker 1: So Aiman's carefully cultivated image of power and danger ultimately
- 10:07Speaker 1: became his biggest vulnerability. It made him disposable even to
- 10:11Speaker 1: his own family. Provided the perfect cover.
- 10:13Speaker 2: It really did, and the forensics backed it all up.
- 10:16Speaker 2: The body parts were found where they said the method matched.
- 10:19Speaker 2: But maybe the most chilling detail investigators uncovered, What's that
- 10:23Speaker 2: the timing of the conspiracy. Evidence suggested the plot wasn't
- 10:26Speaker 2: born out of five months of escalating fights. It was
- 10:29Speaker 2: hatched the very first day they moved into that apartment.
- 10:32Speaker 1: The day they arrived. They plan it from the start.
- 10:35Speaker 2: That's what the evidence pointed towards a cold, calculated decision
- 10:39Speaker 2: made on day one, just waiting for the right moment.
- 10:42Speaker 1: So just recap the core elements here. We have this
- 10:45Speaker 1: environment of controlled chaos, deliberately isolated. We have a victim
- 10:50Speaker 1: whose official criminal status registered risk, ironically becomes his killer's shield.
- 10:56Speaker 1: And then this incredibly cold, methodical execute in disposal.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Leading ultimately to the death penalty for both zinob el
- 11:04Speaker 2: Arga and Mohammed.
- 11:05Speaker 1: It really makes you think about identity control. Aimon built
- 11:08Speaker 1: this fearsome reputation, maybe for survival, maybe for power. Zionob
- 11:12Speaker 1: seemed to feed off it, even be proud of it.
- 11:14Speaker 2: But that exact identity, that label, became the very thing
- 11:18Speaker 2: that made his murder easier to conceal. When he vanished,
- 11:21Speaker 2: the assumption wasn't intimate betrayal, it was just well, that's
- 11:24Speaker 2: what happens to guys like him. The police thought it,
- 11:27Speaker 2: the neighbors probably thought it, which.
- 11:28Speaker 1: Leaves us and you with a final thought to wrestle with.
- 11:33Speaker 1: Was Amon killed simply because he was a violent man?
- 11:36Speaker 1: Or was his fearsome reputation actually the key ingredient that
- 11:38Speaker 1: made him the easiest target for someone perhaps even more
- 11:41Speaker 1: dangerously calculating in that house, Who is the real registered risk?
- 11:46Speaker 1: And what does this case tell us about how easily
- 11:48Speaker 1: a public image, even a terrifying one, can be turned
- 11:50Speaker 1: into the perfect murder weapon.