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Inside The Birds Postgame Show Week 1: Philadelphia Eagles Vs. Dallas Cowboys · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to the Inside the Birds postgame show.
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  Speaker 2: It's Jeff mo.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, it's Adam Kapan a little later than expected, but man,
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  that one needed a little pause, because, Adam, that was
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  one of the weirdest, strangest season openers that I've covered
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  in my twenty one year. As you're talking about a
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  championship banner getting unfurled, the link rocking, and then you
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  get a player ejected, a player hurt on the opening kickoff,
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  a lightning delay, and then like ninety percent of the
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  points scored in the first half and then almost nothing
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  in the second half. But if there's one thing that
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  really stuck out from the eagles twenty four to twenty
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  win over the Cowboys in the opener is that that
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  looked like almost every single Eagles regular season came from
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  the last two years, had all the elements in it.
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  And I think maybe in the past we could sit
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  here and say, man, this thing didn't look good or
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  that didn't look good, but this is how the Eagles do.
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  It was almost their standard operating procedure, especially earlier in
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  the year, and I think you do have to give
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  credit to a Jalen Hurts figuring out ways to move
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  the ball on a tough night for the offense and
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  the defense coming through in the second half. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The thing is it's one of those games where you
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  look at and you go, Okay, offense got off the
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  phenomenal start, got it was active. I'm slicking my notes here,
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  Like the positives Hurts is running was incredible. Man, these
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  juke moves, I mean, that's part of his game. And
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  like when you evaluate a quarterback who's a dual threat,
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  you got to you gotta give him props when he
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  does something with his legs. And Hurts was fantastic. But
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  the key to me is that, well Dallas didn't stop Barkley.
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  They controlled them and they and Eagles still won the game.
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  Like you have to feel good about that.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Now, the passive game it Hurts was efficient, but man,
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  it the second half was really Both quarterbacks struggled to
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  find open receivers. Now, I know in the press box
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  where you were sitting, I'm assuming you could see it
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  because you know the the I call the Ultimate twenty
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  twenty two is in the press box because you see
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  the entire field. Yeah, guy's just not getting open, was it?
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  The I know the offensive line had some pressures they
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  gave up. What was the issue you thought with the
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  passing game? Is just an overall take?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I honestly thought it was a lot
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  like last year's pass offense. I think that there were
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  times where their guys were open. You know, I'll give
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  you a perfect example, the eight yard touchdown run that
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  Jalen Hurts had. I mean, there was a well designed
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  rub route on the left side where two guys ran vertical.
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  AJ Brown cuts in and if that ball is thrown
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  when it's supposed to be with the timing that it's
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  supposed to be at, AJ Brown might score a touchdown
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  at very least. You know, there's a collision at the
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  goal line, and he's strong. We know he can make
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  yards after. But Hurts doesn't throw that ball a lot
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  of times we've gone to that last year. But he
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  had such a wide open because the Cowboys were in
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  man defense, that the entire right side of the field
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  was there for the taking. So we just ran it
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  in for an eight hour touchdown. That's really the game,
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  you know. I'll wait for the all twenty two to
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  be out. It'll be not too too far. I was
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  be able to see that there were there was pretty
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  good coverage. I have to give Dallas credit. I thought
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  they played pretty good defense for having a bunch of
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  guys on the back end there that didn't didn't take
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  a lot of reps at camp, you know, the the
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  digs and Bland and all that. I know they had
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  some injuries, but it was really to me, just like
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  a lot of games you saw last year, especially early on,
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  where if the if the defense presented Jalen Hurts with
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  the opportunity and we'll get into this later to find
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  a rush lane, he will take it. And I'm pretty
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  sure the Cowboys are gonna watch the tape of the
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  first half and they're gonna I think this is where
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  they missed. Micah and even DeMarcus Lawrence, right, two veterans
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  who know that when you rush Hurts, you can't get
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  all the way up the field. We talked about that
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  in the pregame show and when they watched the tape
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  of the first half, because they completely changed how they
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  rushed him in the second half and it worked for them,
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  but they allowed him to have too much space to
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  run through and he's going to take that and he did.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the big thing and this is what we
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  call backbreaking runs. The guys who could the qbs who
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  could run. It's just demoralizing for the defense. Chris collins
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  Worth talking about that, it's so demoralizing because you think
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  you're playing it right, you're getting up field, but no
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  that you don't want to get upfield. You want to
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  you want to make the quarterback run inside, right or
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  totally inside. So that was backbreaking. And Hurts look explosive. Man,
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  there's no quoite and he's obviously he looked healthy. But yeah,
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  to pass the game. Yeah, it's remnant, very reminiscent of
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  some games last year where you go, man, what uneven?
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  You see some really good stuff early. I really like
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  God are getting involved early. I thought that was really good.
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  They continue to develop their chemistry and trusting with each other.
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  That's really big for Hurts. It's part of God or
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  numbers not being what they should be. Other than being
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  hurt there, it was the chemistry over time where it
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  hasn't been consistent enough. But that's that's a that's one
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  of the positives. But before we move on to the defense,
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  in Jalen Carter situation, boy, that that throw that Hurts
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  had to Dotson was big time. The protection was phenomena
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  as a post route. It looked like they finally got
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  after kyer Elam. I mean, I was like, when are
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  they going to do this? But it wasn't a J. Brown.
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  It was to Dotson. Great throw over fifty yards and
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  great just a great catch, great timing. That was it. Look,
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  that was good to see it because they need to
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  bring that deep passing game back.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I called it such a vintage kind of
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  Philadelphia Eagles game. I wrote about it on Phillyvoice dot com.
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  This was a game that we have seen time and
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  time again over the last few years, where you are
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  at the end of the game seemed to be focusing
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  on the fact that AJ Brown only had one target,
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  was invisible to Fante Smith. Just a couple of catches.
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  Maybe not poetry emotion, but you got some great and
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  timely scrambles and you had a beautiful deep ball, which
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  this time he went to Dots And it's usually Smith
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  or Brown, but this one went to Dotson and it
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  was absolutely beautiful. And by the way, not a lot
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  of quarterbacks are willing to make that kind of a
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  throw on third and six. That's really important to keep
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  in mind third and six. Your mentality, especially in a
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  close game, is I want to move the sticks. I
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  want to find, you know, my receiver if I can
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  avoid the pass rush. But I also want to throw
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  a high percentage pass. I don't want to turn the
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  ball over. Those are low percentage passes that for Jalen
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  Hurts are actually high percentage because he's such a good
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  deep ball thrower and he places the ball really well.
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  And I actually talked to Johan Dottson after the game.
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  I asked him, was it tough to track that ball
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  so deep down the field because he doesn't get that
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  opportunity as much as aj and DeVante, And he said,
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  it's actually really easy. He just puts it in a
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  place where it's easy to get and he had to
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  run under it. But that's that's a vintage Eagles offensive game.
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  I mean, you're you're going to wonder why certain things
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  didn't happen, but at the end of the game, certain
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  things did happen to make sure to ensure that they
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  won the game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of things on that, So yeah, Hurts
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  again nineteen for twenty three. Well, when we talked to
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  Greg co Selfer inside the tape that I know we
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  will drop that we Tuesday morning. I think, Yeah, Greg's
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  going to tell you what the tape told him. You know,
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  he was not an opinion. This is what the tape
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  looked like. Here's this is what it where it should
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  have gone, or here's where it went. This is the
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  right thing. Whether it's not, whether it was, we'll know,
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  we'll be able to tell you. But that throw is
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  picked up. Yeah, I know it's a lower percentage throw.
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  But Hurts is so elite at it. You know, Greg,
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  Greg was nice enough to give our Patreon Tier three
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  members access to his notes. He broke down Hurts from
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  a couple areas last year, and Greg's just blown away
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  about how great of a deep passer. Because I asked Greg,
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  I said, do you remember him being this good with
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  this in Oklahoma and Alabama? Didn't seem like he felt
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  it was the same, like it was anything like this
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  that's pretty good, Like this is where this is a
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  way where you could just demoralized teams, not your with
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  his running if he gets protection. He loves throwing the
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  ball deep some court like dark Carr, who had had
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  Norris talent, he would check the ball down like his
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  nickname was Captain check down. He would he would frustrate
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  coaches like, dude, it's you can do this right, car
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  wouldn't do it. Hurts does it. It's it's amazing. But
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  the passing game overall has got to be better. There's
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  no ques just overall.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. We said that so many times last
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  year and then we couldn't. You can't figure out when
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  that game is going to be. That it was against
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  the Steelers. There are a couple other games where all
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  of a sudden, out of nowhere, it's just like bang
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  bang bang bang. You know, Greg, Greg told us he
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  did a study. You know, this is really I think
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  a discussion we had on the preseason inside the tape
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  on on third down quarterbacks on third down, and jail
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  And by far had the fewest passing attempts on third
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  down compared to other NFL quarterbacks, but he had a
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  high the team had a high rate of conversion because
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  and this is why I think people struggle with evaluating
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  in the ranking of Hurts, because he'll have these drives
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  where he doesn't have he doesn't throw the ball and
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  third that he runs to pick up the first down,
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  then runs to pick up the first down and then
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  later in the drive after doing that, he'll pop one
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  deep and so his numbers will be really efficient. You know,
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  his completion percentage will be high. He'll have you know,
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  a good QBR because he popped that deep ball. But
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  he didn't have to throw the ball as much as
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  some of the other guys. And that's why people struggle
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  with the rating. But again, at the end of the day,
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  did you put score points or not in that regard?
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  They did, But I agree with you. I'm sure they'll
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  spend the week trying to figure out how to just
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  try to get better, just try to make the players
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  that are there when they are.
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  Speaker 2: And understand it hurts. Had fourteen attempts, right, there are
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  a number of them that were scrambles where for whatever reason,
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  he didn't like what he saw, he didn't get protection,
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  guys didn't get open or what. There's always there's always
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  context everything, Yes, just what the tables will tell us.
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  But I gotta give Dallas credit. I mean, they didn't
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  stop Barkley, but they controlled them. I mean they did
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  a really good job. Look, he got a number of
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  in fact, some runs he got on his own where
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  one block real well yep, so I but he only
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  had sixty yards. I mean that they did a really
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  good Joe that that was a stunner to me. Man
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  Kenny Clark, I'm sure helped aj Dillon his first run
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  with what did he rubble and stubble and he got
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  nine yards? It was good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean at the end of the day, what
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  do you have? He also had twenty four receiving yards,
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  so we had eighty four yards. But it took him
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  twenty two touches. So there's your answer on whether or
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  not Barkley's load is going to get any lighter. Twenty
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  two touches. Project that over seventeen games, that's going to
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  be close to three eighty four hundred touches, you know,
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  and all of a sudden done because they needed to
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  they needed to give the ball to Barkley in tight games.
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  But yeah, his average per touch is pretty low for
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  for what he ordinarily is the only last thing.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, I'm just gonna ad on Barkley, but I'll
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  tell you will ship. We've talked two years now about
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  the explosion, the juice that he has, and we've we've
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  used the word juice having seventy five times with will Shipley.
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  That catch that he had and the and the run
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  unfortunately hurt his ribs and that definitely impacted the offense.
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  We we need to add that because he was he looked
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  really good. Yeah, he looked good, like he adds something
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  And obviously Dylan's not explosive at all, so that's something
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  they're missing without Shipley, and he'd never returned after he
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  got hurt early in the game. That's a disappointment. Dickerson
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  left with the with you saw Dickerson leave with the back.
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  That's the back injury which got added this week. That's concerning.
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  And man, poor Ben Vansumer and it feel bad for
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  him testing today on his knee. It's it looked terrible,
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  looked bad. I you saw his face when NBC showed it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, feel bad for him. We'll see on
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  Shipley and of course at the end of the game
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  or near the end of the game, Landon Dickerson. Yeah,
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  we talked about this limping off going back into the
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  locker room. So you just got to hope that Landon
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  Diggerson can make it this year and hold up because
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  he's really putting his body through the grinder over the
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  last few months.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, we should mention Drew Kennell
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  was not active. It's not active. Toth replaced Dickerson if
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  he heard his back. The inactors were Ojelari and O'Conor,
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  so basically they went with three edges and then Campbell.
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  If you noticed, they did line him up as an
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  edge rusher. I don't know how many snaps he did there,
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  but I thought that was interesting. Ty Robinson us expected
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  we talked about it in the pregame. We didn't expect
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  him to be a factor for a while. He was an
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  active in Kenyon Green and of course McKee with his
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  broken finger.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, hey, last thing on offense I wanted to mention.
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  I thought Patullo did a really nice job with the
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  first fifteen. He came out with a variety of of
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  He really took the torch from Kellen. It was it
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  was a lot. You saw eleven personnel, you saw twelve personnel,
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  you saw a thirteen person no play where he lined
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  up three tight ends on the right side of the
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  line of scrimmage, but then he tossed the ball left.
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  He I mean the play called for Hurts to toss
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  the ball to the left side to Sequon Barkley, who
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  got sixteen yards. So that was kind of a misdirection
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  pitch out of thirteen personnel and they got sixteen yards
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  out of it. And there was a ton of motion.
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  I mean there was motion, good, good early on on
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  almost every single play. I mean DeVante Smith running right
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  to left, aj Brown left to right. I think there
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  was motion on the big play to dots, and I
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  gotta say I felt like it was motion for the
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  sake of it. Wasn't motion like Shanahan style to create space.
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  I mean, yeah, guys get free releases. I don't know
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  if it really did anything for the offense, but there
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  was a ton of motion, So we'll have to see
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  if there's more of that going forward.
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  Speaker 2: A couple things. Did you notice Cooper Degen was on
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  offense for three snaps? I did not what Yeah, yeah,
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  I'm looking at the Yeah, three snaps. Darris Cooper got
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  to Metchi. I saw that one Shipley only played five
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  snaps because he got hurt. Dylan had eight grantson. See, Okay,
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  here's the thing. They need a backup. Why tight end
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  in the worst way did they just do? I mean
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  Calcata is just not he played a lot. By the way,
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  he played fifty snaps. They had sixty three snaps on
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  offense totally as an offense. Yep, that's they need it.
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  They need to hurry up back badly and Shipley. You
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  saw Dylan play late in the game, you know, a
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  little bit a couple of snaps. But yeah, Grantson played
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  twenty seven percent of snaps, way more than I expected.
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  That was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, is it is? It was Cooper to team maybe
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  in they'll fight in the the kneel down snaps is
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  like a deep maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe that was it. Yeah, that's a good point.
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  I don't know. I just thought i'd i'd let people
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  know since we have access to the snap counts this early.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Grandson kind of played an h back
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  role after with Van Sumer and out. Yeah, you know,
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  I noticed him sort of offset a lot and in
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  the backfield I think when he was in the game.
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  So the the scheme round. If Van Schumern's I feel bad.
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  I think they were gonna use that kid, Adam. I
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  think they were really hiding him in the preseason offensively
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  because they had some plans for him and now those
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  might go to waste. So we'll see yep, all right,
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  You get fined, maybe even suspended, is Jalen Carter. And listen,
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  there's gonna be a whole lot of controversy to It's
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  Speaker 1: He spit. He actually admitted he spit, but he Dak
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  was saying, I spit a lot, like you know, you're
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  And so it's you know, for a guy who I
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  thought Adam showed leadership this summer, Jalen Carter, that's a
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  that's a major step back. You cannot do that.
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  that like see Scott learned, Man, you can that can't happen.
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  Think about it this way. Carteront wants up not playing
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  a snap. Somehow they won. I know the run defense
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  was which was shaky, but there were sanders the standers
• 18:11
  play obviously. Yeah, Javonte Williams had some good runs of
• 18:14
  that game, but they weren't like he won long His
• 18:18
  long was eleven. It wasn't like he had a bunch
• 18:20
  of ten yard plus runs. They hung in there, and
• 18:24
  remember now they only they only dressed four D tackles
• 18:28
  and if you consider the snapage was crazy, Jomo was
• 18:32
  totally invisible by the way. Jordan Davis played way more
• 18:36
  because he had to eighty seven percent of snaps fifty
• 18:39
  three overall, they had sixty one defensive snaps. Their defense
• 18:42
  did and Byron Young had some plays in this game.
• 18:45
  He had he had twenty two snaps thirty six percent
• 18:47
  of the snap So that's that's really all they can do.
• 18:50
  And you know, not having BG played inside a nickel
• 18:53
  because he retired, they were kind of limited to what
• 18:56
  they can do with with their front.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got That's why I sort of credit the
• 19:00
  defense because they were clearly in a position with Davis
• 19:04
  and Najomo playing eighty seven percent ninety percent of the
• 19:07
  snaps respectively, that you figured that they were gonna wear down.
• 19:11
  And if you notice, Dallas came out at him in
• 19:13
  the second half, they ran the ball three straight times,
• 19:17
  then they got a deep pass and then they ran it.
• 19:19
  They were running it again until Miles Sanders fumbled, So
• 19:22
  it looked like Dallas was trying to capitalize on No,
• 19:25
  Jordan Davis, there's no rotation up front. And by the way,
• 19:28
  we'll talk about this too, not much of a rotation
• 19:30
  on the edges either. We'll get into that in a second.
• 19:34
  And Dallas was running the ball and then bam. Like
• 19:37
  I said, it's such a vintage Eagles game. What happens
• 19:40
  a turnover. That's how the Eagles lived last year. They
• 19:43
  bent occasionally, but then came up with a big turnover.
• 19:47
  And your guy, the guy you just mentioned Young got
• 19:49
  in there. I know, Johad Campbell. If you watch the TV,
• 19:52
  looks like Jehad Campbell's hitting him causing the fumble. But
• 19:55
  if you really freeze it, you'll see this arm right
• 19:58
  and then and a four on the back because it's
• 20:00
  ninety four. It's it's Young really making that initial hit
• 20:03
  and jarring the ball out, and then of course Quinna
• 20:05
  Mitchell jumps on it, and then the Eagles retain possession.
• 20:09
  And then the lightning came, which I do think helped
• 20:11
  the Eagles a little bit get rest. No not, I
• 20:15
  think it helped the defense. But you're right, it was
• 20:17
  so bizarre because I joked that they should recreate their
• 20:21
  their takeaway celebration that they did right right before the snap,
• 20:25
  just to get themselves fired up again. But that's that
• 20:28
  was the Eagles defense. I got to give them credit.
• 20:30
  They were wearing down and they came up with a
• 20:32
  really big stop when they needed it. Because I think
• 20:35
  if if if Sanders doesn't fumble there and Dallas, I
• 20:39
  believe would have gone ahead at that and if they
• 20:42
  score a touchdown, that might be a completely different game.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Well they might have lost if Zach Bond not hustled
• 20:48
  downfield on that tackle, that's probably gonna be a touchdown.
• 20:52
  So yep, that was a big time playing, no doubt.
• 20:55
  And you make a really good point about that the
• 20:57
  the one thing that helped the defense get some wrest
• 20:59
  There's no doubt. Abou's a really good point. I didn't
• 21:01
  have thought about that. That's that's that's I agree with that.
• 21:04
  A couple couples. Actually one big surprise Drew mcuba. You know,
• 21:08
  it's it's interesting because you never really know how Vic feels.
• 21:11
  Because Vic, you saw with the gene he felt Degen
• 21:14
  missed too much practice time. He didn't start him at
• 21:16
  the beginning of the season. But Cuba misspracticed time with
• 21:19
  two different injuries. Apparently we look. My thing was like
• 21:24
  he either starts with three, four or five. Drew mccuba, Nope,
• 21:28
  it was weak one and it wasn't even remotely close.
• 21:31
  Mcuba eighty four percent of snaps, fifty one snaps and
• 21:35
  Sidney Brown it's over for Citdny's would be a back
• 21:38
  up the rest of the season unless mccuba start gets hurt.
• 21:41
  Brown only had fourteen snaps twenty three percent. That that
• 21:43
  is remarkable to me, that it just with Obviously he's
• 21:49
  really smart. He picked it up and Vic thought mentally
• 21:52
  he was ready to go, and that that that's what
• 21:54
  it tells us that we always say decisions to make
• 21:56
  tell you everything you need to know. They felt mccuba,
• 21:59
  particularly Vic and Christian Parker defensive backs coach, thought that
• 22:02
  he was ready to go. Good stuff there.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Listen, we continue to learn this about Vic. He is
• 22:07
  going to play the guys he feels is best for
• 22:09
  his defense, and he's not going to care about a
• 22:12
  experience as long as you show that you know what
• 22:15
  to do and be your contract. Because I would have
• 22:19
  never guessed Asizo Julari would have been inactive going into
• 22:23
  the season opener but Adam, it's pretty clear this guy
• 22:25
  does not. We were so used to Jim Schwartz and
• 22:28
  wanting a big, deep rotation of edges. He does not
• 22:31
  feel like he needs a deep rotation of edge rushers.
• 22:35
  He really only had, if you want to call it
• 22:37
  four because of Patrick Johnson, who played a little bit,
• 22:39
  but he really gave the majority of the edge rushing
• 22:43
  snaps to the two starters. And Josh Ruche right, and
• 22:46
  I know you're right that they brought Campbell down. I
• 22:48
  think that was more schematic at times, because the Cowboys
• 22:51
  are running and you're bringing that fifth man. You're in
• 22:53
  nickel because the Cowboys have three receivers out there, but
• 22:57
  you suspect they might run, so you bring either ball know,
• 23:00
  you bring Campbell down on the line of scrimmage, just
• 23:02
  for that extra beef up front. But you know, I
• 23:07
  was shocked at the Jeli was was, uh.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: That was surprising me. Yeah, But it's if Vic's not
• 23:13
  going to play him, I mean, I know, it's how
• 23:16
  he's called, how he could how he controls I mean
• 23:18
  every general manager, because they have the personnel meeting. If
• 23:22
  he wants the guy to play, he could overroll. You
• 23:24
  should not Overrull. I don't know how. He's pretty good
• 23:26
  from what I understand talking to coaches going back right,
• 23:29
  you know the number of years like he's they'll have
• 23:31
  a discussion, but he doesn't like to do that, and
• 23:34
  you really shouldn't if the if the coach thinks the
• 23:36
  guy's not it just didn't do it. You shouldn't te
• 23:38
  him what to do. But anyway, it's very clear to
• 23:41
  me that Vic didn't think that Ojellar could help him
• 23:43
  and he Honestly, I didn't really see it in terms
• 23:47
  of looking good in tran camp other than the second
• 23:50
  preseason game. We were like, okay, seemed to have something left.
• 23:53
  But Vic felt he can he cannot help him. On
• 23:55
  the snap counts, just real quick here at sixty one
• 23:58
  overall the Eagles defense on the field, Bond, Black and
• 24:02
  Hip Mitchell played every snap. Campbell uh ninety two percent
• 24:06
  of snap so Joemun ninety percent of snaps. I mean
• 24:08
  it's only game one, don't panic, folks. Yeah, he'll be
• 24:11
  a factor later. Davis held up. I know they gave
• 24:14
  up some runs. Eighty seven percent of snaps, Nolan Smith
• 24:16
  eighty five percent, mccoube eighty four Jackson will get to him.
• 24:19
  Who u dor E sixty nine percent, Jax Hunt sixty
• 24:23
  four percent, Young's thirty six, Usha thirty one, Sidney Brown
• 24:28
  only twenty three, ch Green, Vennett eleven, Patrick Johnson you mentioned,
• 24:32
  but yeah, he played a little bit more expectum defense.
• 24:35
  Obviously we know he's here for special teams. Mostly gave
• 24:37
  Hal only five snaps eight percent.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: That surprised me. By the way, if you after JILLN.
• 24:42
  Carter got ejected, I've thought, okay, you're gonna see probably
• 24:46
  a decent amount of Hall and Young. You did see
• 24:48
  the Byron Young. I thought you'd see more gable Hall too,
• 24:51
  But again they just relied so heavily on Ojomo and
• 24:55
  Jordan Davis, who who tip generally played well. I mean
• 24:58
  that's a good Dallas interior offensive line too that they've got.
• 25:01
  They generally played well. You saw that one really nice
• 25:04
  pass rush from Jordan Davis, but he couldn't finish off
• 25:07
  the sack.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yep, yep. Actually he had two pressures. He had two
• 25:11
  pressures both you it's a shame we should mention just
• 25:15
  a couple of things defensively. In terms of Dejane, did
• 25:20
  you notice how he was deployed any kind of from
• 25:24
  the press box because they opened.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Up outside corner. Yeah, I mean the whole secondary is interesting, right.
• 25:33
  I mean, first of all, I didn't think we were
• 25:35
  going to see it this early because if Dallas has
• 25:38
  two good receivers, but VIC clearly had Quina On Mitchell
• 25:41
  shadowing George Pickett traveling against Pickens. Now, I know some people,
• 25:45
  why wouldn't you do it against Cede Lamb? Well it's
• 25:47
  caause see Lamb plays inside a lot and outside, and
• 25:50
  it's tough to have your top corner play slot and outside.
• 25:54
  So they stuck him on. George Pickens figured that with
• 25:58
  Ceedee Lamb being inside, he'd be matched up against the
• 26:00
  gene a lot and then you take your chances with
• 26:03
  that outside matchup. But in the opportunities that Lamb did
• 26:07
  get against A Dori Jackson and JA Corean Bennett, he
• 26:10
  won basically all of them. So it's sort of like
• 26:12
  a pick your poison for VIC, right if he If
• 26:16
  let's say VIC didn't Let's say VIC just played sides
• 26:19
  all right, Quinnon stays on one side and a Dory
• 26:23
  on the other. Well, what happens if Schottenheimer puts Lamb
• 26:28
  in the slot on on Dori Jackson's slot side and
• 26:31
  then pickens outside and then waste like Jalen Tolbert on
• 26:36
  Quinon Mitchell. Well, then you're not getting the most out
• 26:38
  of Quinyon and you've got a bad matchup on the
• 26:40
  other side of the field. So I understand why Vic
• 26:42
  did it, but it did expose a dory to have
• 26:46
  to cover CD lamb loot and that park didn't go well.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I wanted to get to the man the
• 26:51
  travel that that's something new, and then they for the
• 26:56
  ringo truth or she didn't play on defense. The coaches
• 26:58
  kind of tell you where he's at. That he's a
• 27:00
  fourth corner is what we said two years ago. That's
• 27:03
  proven out. He's a really good special teams player. I
• 27:06
  do wonder it's so you know, obviously if this is
• 27:10
  going on, if this can if they continued, Jackson gave
• 27:13
  up a number of plays. I saw he gave himself
• 27:16
  a see 'still somewhere he was quote to give himself
• 27:18
  a c. Bottom line is it's got to be better
• 27:22
  at that corner spot opposite Mitchell. We know they were
• 27:25
  going to go after him. That was obvious. That was
• 27:27
  the big thing. We talked about, but what he leading
• 27:30
  up to the game, but what he would hold up
• 27:32
  and Bennett replaced him. Bennett had a holding penalty. I
• 27:34
  joked on discord he could have had three penalties on that.
• 27:38
  He was grabby Ja Koreyan. You only played seventh snaps
• 27:41
  on defense. But at some point, you know, it's like,
• 27:45
  you know the trade deadlines in late October. You don't
• 27:47
  need to wait till then. It's like, how long is
• 27:49
  how we got to wait if this continues to go
• 27:51
  get another corner for the trade market.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a couple of years ago he got
• 27:54
  bired about a week or two before the trade deadline.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Right there, you go, yeah, but you get you want
• 28:00
  to give I know it hasn't been good for Bennett.
• 28:02
  This is completely different defense than he played in with
• 28:04
  the Raiders. But the guy's talented. You got to give
• 28:07
  him time to can't panic. You gotta let this situate
• 28:10
  play it that. By the way, they did win, but
• 28:12
  next week they're at the Chiefs and the Chiefs are
• 28:15
  throwing them to fact, the word coming from Kansas City
• 28:18
  is that because their past the game was not great.
• 28:20
  Last season, the chechen wasn't great, they're gonna they want
• 28:24
  to expand it. They want to they want to move
• 28:26
  the ball down field more so, it's it's gona be
• 28:30
  and they've reached they've reshaped their offensive line. We'll talk
• 28:32
  more about that next week. But hey, you know what,
• 28:36
  they only gave up twenty points. But man, it's only
• 28:39
  game one. A lot of corrections. As Nick, we'll talk
• 28:41
  about coaches always talk about that, Hey, you got you
• 28:43
  need a tape. You got tape, and you got to
• 28:45
  be a little bit better there.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And you know, with Hod Campbell starting at
• 28:49
  the second level, I think the tape will get it
• 28:51
  to it. With Greg, it's gonna probably show that his
• 28:54
  athleticism is unbelievable. He made that huge pass break up
• 28:58
  on the backup tight end on that play down the
• 29:01
  scene where he I can't remember that Brevian Jordan's span
• 29:05
  or something like that.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, yeah span.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: He made a really nice breakup on that. But then
• 29:12
  there were some plays, just some run players, where I
• 29:15
  felt like he was getting blocked out pretty good. He's
• 29:17
  got to learn to get around the offensive tackle or
• 29:20
  to be more aggressive in that pulling guard and kind
• 29:23
  of get either get crashed into him. So that Bond
• 29:26
  can make the tackle or get off stack and shed,
• 29:29
  you know, make the tackle yourself. Yeah, he's got to
• 29:31
  probably improve in that area, but the range and the
• 29:35
  athletic ability is just there.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: And I could see shout out to specialism shake Ellie
• 29:40
  nailed that fifty eight yarder. Was phenomenal. He he look,
• 29:45
  he went through the struggles for whatever four weeks or
• 29:47
  so last year. By the way, you don't have to
• 29:50
  be on the entryport to be dealing with something, you know, whatever.
• 29:53
  It could be anything. He didn't miss any practice time.
• 29:55
  But the bottom line is that he nailed that fifty
• 29:57
  eight yarder and shout out to Braidon man, Holy smoke.
• 30:01
  He had a great summer. By the way. He is
• 30:03
  really good. He's taking his game to another level. Forty
• 30:06
  eight seven average. Two punts of fifty plus yards fifty
• 30:09
  one fifty one.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Fourth quarters were fantastic, phenomen.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned that because I'm like, you know,
• 30:17
  it's such a judgment call. This is where New York
• 30:20
  should the officiating office should be. Like the ref is
• 30:24
  walking back the yardage like he's like, okay, he sees
• 30:26
  it go out out of bounds. He's got to walk
• 30:28
  it up. I don't know if that was completely accurate
• 30:30
  where he placed it, but nevertheless, two punts inside the
• 30:33
  twenty at the eleven and the eighteen that I've always
• 30:35
  talking about eleven where he was placed at the eleven.
• 30:37
  But braid, man, we don't talk about him enough. He
• 30:40
  was good, not great since they've got him through last season,
• 30:46
  but man, this summer, holy smokes, and it manifested itself.
• 30:51
  Was this the preseason? It was in training camp. Not
• 30:54
  that we're watching punters a lot, but when I watch
• 30:55
  Him'm like, wow, this is really booming. The hangtime's great.
• 30:58
  He was incredible, and Jake's he looks great.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No, special teams was huge in this game, very
• 31:04
  big with the directional punting and the field goals. I agree.
• 31:07
  All right, So that's you know, basically the rundown. The
• 31:10
  Eagles win a game. It's it was a typical NFC
• 31:13
  East type game. I think the Cowboys maybe they're a
• 31:16
  little better than people gave him credit for, or they
• 31:18
  just caught the Eagles at the right time, but you know,
• 31:21
  they didn't move the ball at times. But hey, that
• 31:23
  second half. Got to give the Eagles a lot of
• 31:25
  credit for both team. Both teams really kind of turned
• 31:28
  around defensively the second half. We'll see what that means
• 31:31
  for the rest of the season. That's gonna do it
• 31:34
  for the Inside the Birds postgame show for Adam Kaplan.
• 31:37
  I'm Jeff Mosher. Catcha on the next one.