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Are you all ready, Barbara? Bound Bound Banger Management
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Fantasy hockey podcast. Woo woo.
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Oh yeah, that's right, we're back for beer BET episode Part
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2, part What comes before Part B, Part A.
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Where you going with? Anyways, this is Part B.
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Funny. Because we're 2 beers.
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Deep heard that before. That's really good.
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I've heard that I forgot. OK, another beer bet episode
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rule. Don't burp into the mic, yeah?
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Well, good news. I can't burp, OK?
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I can't burp. Can't burp, No.
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What do you mean you can't burn? What?
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I physically can't burp. He also can't smell, do they?
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What maybe this related this one cat smell 25% as well?
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That's crazy. Yeah, some days are better than
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others. You can't burp.
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I can't burp, no. You also think you can't puke
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though. No, I can puke OK, I just dry
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heat a lot more than I puke. Actually.
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Power move. A real man dry heaves instead of
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few. Nothing comes out real.
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Feel better? Don't smell.
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Yes. So welcome in everybody to
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Bangor Management Fantasy Hockey Podcast with Jake, Josh and
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pugilist scentless Kevin. Call me dry heave.
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Kevin. So you can work.
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This is part number two of our beer bets episode where we had
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the season long bets and throughout the year we
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basically, well, you did a good prediction that description
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before. Oh my goodness, only two beers.
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Got a little, a little, a little mentally incapacitated.
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Literally 2 Heinekens deep. When you dedicate your life to
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to fantasy hockey, podcasting, partying come second.
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OK, true. Or we're a little bit behind the
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curve. That's safe for listening to
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this. Listen to Part 1 first and then
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listen to them. They're a bit more.
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Coherence. Yeah, just slightly.
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OK, So yeah, you can fill us in just very slightly if anyone
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listen to. One, if you've been following
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along with us or if you haven't throughout the season, we made
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some beer bets, mostly comparing player to player who we think is
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going to be better rest of the season.
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And now the chickens have come to roost and it's time to pay
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the piper. Does that summarize it?
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Yes. Pickle Piper Pickled Peppers.
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Exactly. The Roosters have come to
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chicken OK December 11th is the next beer bet up #8 on the year.
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Kevin Betts Jake that Block would go more starts rest of the
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season than Demco. Kevin says Block would gets more
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stars. Jake says Demco gets more star.
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Blackwood gets more starts. Not fair he got traded.
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And of course the. Best that's that's.
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He said. That was mother here.
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Convinced that we should all buy low on Scott, what would?
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There's like there's no way they can the the Colorado Avalanche
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owner did not place his Catan resource on a woodport like
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Lockwood and Wedgewood. Like he gets any resource he
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wants and ends up with. Ages.
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Miles Wood. It's true.
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It's true. He could build the road with all
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those woods. I feel like that's not copyright
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worthy. That's just that's just an ode
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to the what best game in the world?
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No, second best You're you're a terraformer.
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Yeah, gathering. But I mean, it's either.
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Tonight. This, this, this was just bad.
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I'm not going to make an excuse for this.
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However, I guess the only thing you might defence, I did not
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believe in Blackwood. Yeah, I like, OK.
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I should have realized he was going to be the starter over
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Wedgewood that. But that's neither here nor
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there, because that has nothing to do with this bet.
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Yeah. That we didn't really understand
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how catastrophic the Canucks were gonna be, right?
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Like, so that's kind of like the way I would frame it.
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But yeah, I mean not ideal. Yeah, that's, that's definitely
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a tough one, I think. Yeah, it was the whole you being
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super low on Blackwood High and Wedgewood with for kind of no
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reason, but also the whole the. Whole.
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Yeah, I mean. But but but being higher on
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Demco was not some crazy idea at that.
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Point going into the season, this would have been a joke but
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for the, you know, in the opposite direction.
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Like obviously Demco, you know, but yeah, just his injury
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history. But even him coming back and
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then Lincoln and still getting starts.
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So yeah, just weird time to be a Vancouver fan.
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Very, very, very. Bad.
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I would be finding another. Planet was good though and like
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I guess Demco already started the season with some injuries
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issues and. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, but he was he was like a serious top five goalie 2 years
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ago. Right, Yeah.
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I don't know what's gonna happen with his career.
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Though I feel like. Bouncing back, unfortunately.
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Yeah, which is really awful for him, where he would get drafted
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next year. You have to get drafted this
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year like 5th, 6th. Round, but you've always got
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drafted too high. I see Blackwood going like
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Blackwater temper 6-7 round Kemper.
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Kemper and unreal. Yeah, Kemper is.
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Better Ella is also a sick team too.
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Yeah, for a goalie especially. Because.
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They're. They're like score.
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They don't score a lot, but they don't let in a lot of goals.
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Yeah, yeah. Exactly, Markstrom.
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Blackwood. Blackwood, like all things
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considered, broken. Wolf.
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I take black over Sorokin. Yeah, 2 Black Clover Sorokin
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next year. Yeah, I think Black would over.
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Blackwood like overlaying very well.
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It wasn't just him being on a good team, he also played very
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well. So like you have to put him
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above goalies that are good on bad teams.
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In my opinion. Clubs and.
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Blackwood. Blackwood.
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Yeah, This is a flash in the pan for Washington.
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I don't believe in them at all. OK.
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Sir, that's that's fair on anger.
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No anger? Well, you think that's tough?
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Really. I don't under is a clear top
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like 4 goalie fantasy. Wise I know he's always good but
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I'm just saying that. This is gonna be nuts also for
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years to come. Dallas is clearly better than.
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Colorado they were regular season team than.
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Dallas or Colorado? Dallas Dallas can win the
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President's Trophy. There's no chance Colorado wins
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the presidents. Trophy.
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What about? Do you actually think that like
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you would take Blackwood over Ottinger?
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That's crazy. I think, I think it's close
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honestly, cause I think Colorado would be really good next year,
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Sam, I think it'll be better than they.
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Were this year? No chance.
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I think I'd take longer, but it's close enough that I see
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them going maybe. I'm a big Blackwood truth or you
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know, I spent 51 of my fav on him this year and he was unreal.
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But it's literally Jake Ottinger on the Stars who are going to
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be, I think they're going to be over the course of the next
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eight years, probably the best team if you sum it up eight
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years. Who's 2?
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Possibly under. OK, who's?
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Three. Probably just Durkin.
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Chester Canvas. Yeah.
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Blackwood isn't there, I think. I don't know, we said Kemper
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over Blackwood. Yeah, Kemper.
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What about Bobrovsky? Probably Bob even though like I
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feel like it could easily be blocked but.
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At the end of this thing that I really like about Blackwood is I
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feel like he's going to get maybe doesn't get all the stars
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like he did this year. Injury he's gonna get.
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You think it's not random. He's gonna get like, he's gonna
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be one of the few goalies like all the other girls we just
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listed. That's gonna be the clear
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starters, not a tandem. Yeah, but.
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Yeah, I really like Blackwood. I just think like Ottinger is
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like literally possibly the number 2.
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Goalie do you think sucks so. Like 2 days ago at the Bower.
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Like 2 days you were just like, I don't think about two days ago
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we were, we were in. The I just saw.
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Her way back to Montreal and were like, I don't think auditor
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is that good actually. Out of the blue.
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We were waiting to board our flight.
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There's not that I said that. He's not the type of bullies
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take like an excellent team and like necessarily put them over
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the edge at this point, yet he just hasn't done that.
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Like I don't. Know, I think he has do you
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remember, like, I don't remember why I was watching this
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highlight, but the the year when they played the Flames and he
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had that like they ended up losing the Game 7, but he had
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that game. We had like 70 saves.
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Yeah, he's an unreal goalie. He just had a bad like playoffs
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this year. Not even the whole series.
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Yeah, he just he had one bad series, which is the most
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recent. What's fresh in your guys's
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mind, which is why you're underselling how good he is?
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No, I think he's. Got him last year and he wasn't
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that great for you, so I think you're kind of like he's soured.
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On him but inconsistent like Bob to me is is is like amazing, you
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know what I mean? You're not gonna take Bob over
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Ottinger. No, I'm not saying that.
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I'm just saying that like an actual goalie in the NHL to like
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make your team go that deep in the playoffs.
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I think there's no reason. Also really young.
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Dallas could have beaten Edmonton like they're They were
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a good team they got. Destroyed the bartending for
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that. Life was a goalie.
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I'm never gonna blame a goalie for a series, let alone lost.
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Let alone. The series Skinner got like 3
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shutouts. But but like, you know what I
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mean? Like nevertheless, like, I just
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don't think he's that guy in the playoffs yet.
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I was with you. I'm not.
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Like, the very least. I pick him over at.
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Least you could agree in the regular season is that guy.
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Yes, I pick him over. Regular season.
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So no, like I'm taking him over Blackwood and like, look, I
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don't even look. That doesn't even necessarily
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mean he's the best boy to be that guy, to bring your guy to
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your. Season, you can be clutch like
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Pennington could be that guy. That's what I'm saying.
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Your team to the finals like like anybody could be that, but
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if you're going to is very rare to play a whole regular season
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as a starter and still be insane in the playoffs.
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Yeah. Skinner is doing amazingly right
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now, but he's super well rested. Bobrovsky on the other.
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Hand we Skinner also has abysmal games.
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He didn't even start the the the.
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But then he would still be in that.
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I know I know that's what I'm saying Kemper Kemper gave
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Edmonton a run for their money like he's a guy who could do
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that as not just think all ringers proven himself to be
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season and. Playoffs, and that's all I'm
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saying. We said Colorado won the Cup
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without a goalie and then ended up being like one of the best.
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Yeah, so like, like Dallas has made the conference finals for
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three years straight. You can't say I'm just a bad
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playoff goalie. Like just because the team
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doesn't make win the Cup doesn't mean.
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Like kryptonite, and it's like the team with the two best
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players in the world. Yeah, that's it.
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They played Edmonton both years like the past two years and
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McDavid and Draisaitl have been playing unreal like.
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Yeah, yeah. No, listen, I I'm with you.
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I think Auditor is the second goalie off the board next year.
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Dallas is also young and. Amazing.
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Yeah. Like they have all these great
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contracts locked up. I just like to see them actually
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like, win. Like when they went to the
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finals, he wasn't their goalie, right?
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I don't think he was their goalie in that.
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Year that you think, was it Ben Bishop?
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Why do I say of Ganita Barkov? But it was not.
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San Jose. Yeah.
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Did you see ill in the backyard? Just got a contract, I don't
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know the related. I don't know.
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People talk about Ilia Nabokov. Probably.
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It's probably not a very common name.
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Who is it? Feel like it was not ottinger
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anyways later. Picking up Ottinger.
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I think it was. I think it.
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Was. Open OHS.
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There Anyway, Long story short, I'm with you on anger is
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amazing. I would take him over Blackwood
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however, like I just I don't know he doesn't like he's young
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2-3 years. I think Dallas is going to win
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the Cup. With the 300.
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They're always right there and I think he's going to get there.
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I mean I. Don't think place that divorce
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said what he said. It's all fair.
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It's messed. Up but anyways.
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Yeah, like. But like we said, he's he's not
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he's gonna finish out this year as the.
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Coach in the back of the two of getting them back off down the
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back off is 22 years old and a good goalie.
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Honestly. What's the point?
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Yeah. But yeah, I think we just quit
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right now. I'm, I'm a huge Blackwood guy.
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Like I, I picked him up this year and he like turned my team
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around. I think he's really good, but
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there's a certain tier of goalie that you just can't.
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Yeah. Anyway.
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Break into that for 7th is like a good place to pick him as far
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as goalies go, and it's going to be I think I expect a lot from
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him. This year have a great year.
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Let's move on to the next Josh Betts.
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Kevin that Coffield will finish with more than .2 points per
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game difference just a season meaning of Brad has one point
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rest of season Caulfield is .79 or less baradas.
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So that's it. Basically had to be .2
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different. I said that was going to be more
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than .2 better than coffee. .08 point 85 Kevin loses not.
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Even close. Hard clothes, darn close.
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I actually feel like at the time Brat was just insane.
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Brat was higher than. That yeah, like it was, it was a
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bigger gap. At that point.
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Right, so. There's a week or two longer.
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Yeah, I thought, Pace. Kevin was so low on Brat and it
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was like he was doing so well all year.
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Yeah. I locate wonder if from this
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point on I feel like Caulfield may have gone as many points as
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him. I feel like it wasn't that far
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off because Caulfield started off pretty May and then Brat was
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insane and brats slowed down like crazy as soon as you sold
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Brad. No, he he kept being good after
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I treated him. Well, Yeah, I mean, not as
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insane like he was it like a whole other tier, but like he he
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finished off. He didn't have like a a slow end
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to the season. He was he was good all the way
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throughout. Even with the Hughes injury.
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He was, but that was a whole like post formations, like they
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were nuts and coffee was definitely a central part of
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that. Other than Suzuki was there,
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yeah. I mean, I'm still taking Brad
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over coal fields next year. Like I don't think, I don't
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think that's that close. I can see them going around or
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two. Apart.
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Over coffee fields, big thing over but as the shots, right.
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But we'll have to see how, yeah. Definitely significantly
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regressed last season, yeah. Yeah, that is the one thing I
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was disappointed. He randomly hitting more no.
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He did get a he was randomly doing like one point something
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hits a game, which was like a nice surprise.
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Was like a nice cherry on top, yeah.
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You're taking the shots like you want the better shots and stuff,
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you know what I mean? Because that's all making the.
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Difference .23 points difference and like that's going to get
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more points in Cofield probably. I mean he will be back.
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I I like, I think that's one of the most underrated players.
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Like I was really excited to go this year in the sixth round.
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I think next year you can go 5th.
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Brad is like what nature could be to McKinnon.
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Yeah, exactly. Yeah, everything is that like I
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expect when I took Brad, I also expected him to get more shots.
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But he did. I think nature is going to be
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better. And you didn't expect me to get
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that, you think? This over brat.
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Yes. Oh yeah.
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Easy. I think so as well.
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Easy. No, that's not easy.
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I feel like that's that's just me but.
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I think they're very. Similar.
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It's way better than you expected as well though.
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He was. We did not drop them for 1.5
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points per game. He was out.
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For like half the season I drafted him because I remember
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every year thinking this guy keeps getting drafted way lower
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than he performs. So I was excited to get him.
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He over exceeded my expectations but definitely like I was happy
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to get him where I got him and I thought he would do well.
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Yeah. The caveat there is that I just
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trust McKinnon a lot more than Hughes.
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Just just like reliability purposes.
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That being said, Brat was Rob was a great pick this year and I
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I I it was close. He definitely earned a lot more
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of my respect. I will say yeah, he's just way
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too 1 dimensional for me. But he's really good at that one
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dimension, so. You got under two shots a game,
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right? I think he probably ended around
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2. OK, but.
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It was like a 1.9 or something. Personally to me like if someone
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sub three shots then I'm not happy with their shots.
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Like like between? Two full team of that.
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Though for sure. Yeah.
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But I like having the shooters that's like kind of like
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everyone has kind of like their pet cat that they like, you
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know, having like, like guy like who's who like won our league
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this year. He always goes nuts on face off
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wins. You like, that's his thing, you
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know, like, yeah, like for me, like I always like going for
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shots on goal. Like this year was the year I
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had like probably my worst shots on goal team.
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So one year I didn't win, you know, whatever.
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But yeah, so that's just the one I like going for.
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So I put a lot of stock in that. So that's why I was disappointed
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a bit even with my my ankle pick in the fourth round, which was
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probably my best pick of the draft.
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Yeah, he regressed in shots. Obviously, he way overperformed.
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Supposed to be over formed. That's it.
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He was getting like over 4 the year before I was I like, so I
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saw that and I was like, oh, this is a steel.
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I'm getting him. Yeah.
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And then he still had like three shots, you know, like, still
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like solid, but. Like still.
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Yeah, like. But 4 is like, you know, like
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that's like very few players like do that.
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Yeah. So, So yeah.
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So anyways, I would think I would take Brad over niches, but
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that's a close. One were you thinking then you'd
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be happy to have him on the team again?
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Right, yeah. I mean, I took him like I said,
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it took him 6 rounds and I could him going in the fifth round. 4.
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I don't think I'll be on the 4th.
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I don't think so. You could probably get more
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trinko. Yeah, it's just tough.
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I'd rather take more tango because the Shaws feel more
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guaranteed and even if the points upside isn't quite there,
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I'm more excited. About taking much early in the
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draft, you can't take these, you can't take A1 dimensional points
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guy unless he's gonna do like 120 points, you know, like,
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yeah, exactly. Like and even then Panarin like
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randomly started shooting again like this year.
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So like, he's not as one-dimensional as we originally
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thought. OK, Brett or Kyle Connor.
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Connor. Connor.
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Yeah, OK. Yeah, for sure.
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Because Connor has the shots. Connor was in 5th rounds this
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last year. Wait, wait.
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But like, OK, I mean like Connor and Natures is a big
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conversation, but like both of them easily over.
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Brad, Brad or Boldy? I love Boldy.
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I think again, it's the shots. That's the big difference.
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I think I could see that. Probably gets more points.
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Probably gets more points, but body gets more shots.
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I gotta take bully. Yeah, Brader Keller.
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I'll take Brat. I don't think Keller is the
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biggest shooter. 2.6. Yeah, that's.
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But 1.1 points. Anything sub three doesn't
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impress. Me give us one of them and Josh
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disagree. Travis connect me.
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I'll take connect. Me, I think I take Brett.
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There you go. Yeah.
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Although I will say Tortorella getting fired changes things a
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lot. Helps connect you.
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Think Oh for sure, no, I would. I don't take players on a
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tortilla. Team this team the last year.
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Tortorella leaving late. It's like an entire new NHL team
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just appeared on my draft board, apparently.
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Like it was like a team that I would never draft.
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Oh, maybe I will drive two players.
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On this team for the difference again, Brat or why Johnson?
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So I my instinct is Johnston, but I am nervous about how deep
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Dallas. I think, I think brat.
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Brat is the second guy on New Jersey after Hughes.
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Pointwise, obviously like Keisha is very important.
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But by this time next year, we're gonna be speaking about
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Johnson as the second best player on Dallas.
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After Antonin, yeah, over Robertson.
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I don't think that's crazy. That's not crazy.
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I, I I. Like which case?
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Like the Because then he's gonna get better matchups.
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For sure, the only thing is does he get buried?
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Like does he get stuck off power play one because of their?
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Depth like. We did this year.
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Yeah, but he's, he's literally, what is he 21 or 22?
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He's so. Young One day in the next two to
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three years, he'll be there, you know.
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But by taking him that early this year, you're betting that
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he this is the year that he makes that jump.
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He's 22. Yes, wait until he makes the
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jump. The over.
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I just feel like you're such a disgusting.
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Colour Hello Book was the 3rd goalie off the board this year.
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Yeah, he always goes first. Yeah, who?
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Hello. He's the first goal.
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We have the board. No.
18:59
Yeah, he's always he always. Is no.
19:01
Usually it's just in the last couple of years I feel like.
19:03
This year was just. Yeah, I think that's common.
19:07
All the 2nd row. Now, like Halibut is the clear
19:09
number one, but the last couple of years, like he's been one,
19:12
he's been a top three. But I think Justin is a totally
19:15
reasonable pick for this past year.
19:17
Let's move on to the next one on the topic of goalies.
19:22
Kevin Betz, Josh that Cherokee will be better than Blackwood.
19:27
I feel like better was arbitrary, but.
19:32
Next time we have to be more specific with our criteria.
19:34
So you wrote Sorokin was better, Josh?
19:36
Loses I. Guess who calculated?
19:40
It Yeah. All electrical calculator if
19:42
you. Want I believe you.
19:45
I think it's super. Close it was, it was extremely
19:47
close. This was also not like the whole
19:49
season. It was like a specific time
19:50
frame that we had said. Overall Blackwood had a better
19:52
season but like when we made this right it was right before
19:55
Blackwood had his worst like 2 week stretch of the season and
19:57
Rogan had his most insane two week stretch of the.
19:59
Season stroke was like monster for like a month.
20:01
Yeah, and then evened out a bit after for the rest of the season
20:04
to make it so close. But definitely that month post
20:06
must making this bet was like pure Sorokin.
20:08
Yeah, I looked at wins, looked at sabotage, I looked at said
20:11
that goes against average and they were all like literally
20:15
almost the same goalie except slightly higher first broken in
20:19
most categories, so. Like the better goalie but Black
20:23
was on vastly superior team were awful.
20:27
Yeah, I think that was honestly the closest bed out of all of
20:30
them. Yeah, and also like I said
20:32
earlier, I don't know if this was in your bed episode #1
20:34
earlier in this one, but I said how we all kind of got on train
20:37
with our like the hype train of our own guys.
20:39
I was fully on the Blackwood hype train at this point.
20:41
Kevin also was on his. Was trying to ships were looking
20:44
for the longest time. Yeah, you were.
20:45
And then you went and then he went off OK.
20:47
I was happy about it. Yeah, but no, I picked up
20:50
Blackwood. I was so hyped about how well he
20:52
was doing. He had.
20:53
At that point when I made this bet, he hadn't had a single game
20:56
on the Avalanche where he let in more than two goals.
20:58
Yeah, he had one. I think everyone of his starts.
21:00
Out looking out of those he had played like subpar competition.
21:03
But yeah, I remember you telling me that like, look at all these
21:05
like garbage teams he's played, but he had played some good
21:07
teams as well. And like you, it also just
21:09
played unreal. So like I was.
21:10
Like there's never letting in more.
21:12
Than two goals yeah literally like that's one of those
21:15
conversations like doesn't check his phone for like a couple
21:17
hours and he looks and there's like 70 unread messages because.
21:20
Yelling at each other. Black ones better.
21:23
Better I actually like just a quickly on the Islanders, you
21:28
know, like in office pools, right?
21:29
Choose your team name Steve. Steve chose Matcha Darshan's
21:33
squad and I'm like, what the heck?
21:37
I haven't thought about Matthew Darsh in like 10 years at least.
21:41
Like where did that come from, GM?
21:47
Was he predicted it? Is like crazy and, you know,
21:50
like, like you did this and that we we manage a league and like
21:53
our team name is Kostopoulos, Michael.
21:57
It's like who thinks of these guys?
21:58
But in this case, it's now the GM of the Islanders.
22:01
Yeah, so. Random Patrick was the coach.
22:03
Yeah, full Montreal representation.
22:05
There was like a few like a couple months ago where like me
22:08
and Patrick are watching one of the Habs games and it was
22:10
intermission and just as a fun game we decided to list the most
22:14
random haps we could remember. You with the hockey cards?
22:17
Yeah. Listing like the randomness
22:19
guys, like on the top of our head, you know, it's so funny.
22:22
Just like thinking of yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:25
Let's all name one right now. The randomness you could think
22:28
of. Not everybody at once.
22:34
Um, I'm gonna go with Dwight King.
22:38
That's funny. Josh Georges.
22:43
Well, here's You can't even name it.
22:47
I feel like maybe radic bonk. I think so.
22:51
I know he's one of the all time hockey names I don't remember.
22:53
Being that I feel like he was on the Hives, I feel like he was on
22:57
the Habs. Erratic bonk.
22:59
Yeah, that that's, I don't know why it comes to mind.
23:02
Kyle Chipchura. That's good.
23:06
That is micro Barrow. But I guess he wasn't really
23:09
decent after though. Like I feel like after we talked
23:12
about this last time, I looked up his elite prospects, her, his
23:15
bleep and I was like, Oh yeah. Like he was on the hubs and then
23:20
he was sick on. That classic like highlight of
23:22
him, like shushing the crowd after his like.
23:24
Roddick Bonk did in fact play for the Habs.
23:26
Alright, I'll give it to you. Yeah, you and.
23:28
The Randolph 6 Thank you, thank you, thank you.
23:30
Also a legendary. Hockey Ryan Radaker here all
23:33
week OK next one January 29th Forsberg more points than Ranton
23:40
in between January 29th and the end of the fantasy season, both
23:43
Kevin and Josh say Ranton and Jake, says Forsberg.
23:46
This was right after the Renton and Trey.
23:49
First one Forsberg 27, Ranton 24.
23:55
Drink up, fam. You can't say that you have so
23:59
many more beers that. Are that's irrelevant.
24:03
Did you say irrelevant like an elephant?
24:06
You're home. Go drunk.
24:09
No. Yeah, I.
24:10
This is one of Jake's two BET wins on the season.
24:13
But doubled up on Yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I doubled or.
24:16
Reverse so low on Rantanen. Which, to be fair, was correct.
24:21
He was not good on Carolina. Yeah, obviously nobody could
24:24
have predicted the dollar. Straight, yeah.
24:26
Insane but like yes on Carolina and I was frankly because of you
24:31
very low on him yeah, I don't believe that he.
24:35
Ended up being high on him. Yeah.
24:37
Why? Is how the tables have turned.
24:39
So they like why is Logan Stankova na better hire Carolina
24:42
Hurricane than Rantanen? Like Riddle me that.
24:45
Honestly, like it's something to do with rods.
24:47
Weird system. That's what I'm saying.
24:48
You know, like. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
24:49
Like the truth is like it almost makes me feel that Yahoo is the
24:53
best player in the league that he's able to get over a point
24:56
per game on Rode team. It's crazy.
24:59
Not to mention the fact. That you mean?
25:01
Seth Jarvis. Sebastian Antero.
25:05
Serious, you're not to be confused with others about, you
25:08
know, also like, slight chance about all remember the world in
25:12
20/20/16 when there was a lion, a pool, Yarvi and Idaho.
25:17
Do you remember that? No.
25:18
OK. So anyway, that was like a
25:20
famously good finish line the year that they won with UPL and
25:23
nuts. Yeah.
25:24
And OHO was like kind of irrelevant to like, draft talks
25:28
that year. Lying went second pull, RV went
25:31
4th. And then like, where are they
25:34
now? Who's the goat?
25:36
So like I have made that team probably like sick and no one
25:39
just thought about it. You know, all this to say, put
25:42
Aho on like literally any other team and he's the best player in
25:44
the league. And the team must have been
25:46
racing. They were.
25:47
Straight to the finish line. I was.
25:51
I actually did not. Know it was.
25:54
I didn't see anything. Coming the wheel spinning.
25:58
Always calls me out on that. I'll be like in the middle of a
26:01
conversation and then I'll think of a punchline, but I have to
26:03
figure out the. How to set it?
26:04
Up. And then I'll just sit there
26:06
like thinking. Stupid.
26:08
Sometimes I'll stop mid sentence just start thinking of what the.
26:12
But now that we're talking about Reds and where does he go next
26:15
year? I think late 1st.
26:17
You think he still stays in the first round?
26:18
Yeah, because he's like, he's like top seven pick usually.
26:21
Because of the playoff. Because of how good.
26:23
He's been, I'm kind of annoyed because I was going to target
26:25
him second round next year and I think I could have got him if he
26:27
didn't have such an unreal playoffs.
26:28
If you have even a point per game in the playoffs, yeah, I
26:31
feel like he would have gone. But the way he did it too was so
26:35
like, insanely like, dramatic and insane, you know?
26:39
Like, do you see him? Yeah, tricks.
26:40
Like is he getting 100 points? No.
26:48
I don't know. Dallas is really deep.
26:50
So he's not gonna get 100. Points I think Dallas is gonna
26:52
score the most goals in the. NHL Who gets who gets more
26:55
points than Rantanen or Natures? Rantanen one Mr. High on Neches,
27:00
say the line. If resident is not getting 100
27:03
points and Jake doesn't need just getting 100 points, easy.
27:06
Yeah, but then backtrack. Perfect right read.
27:13
I think natures can get as many points.
27:16
I think, I think, I think, I think Marner over ranked in.
27:19
Point wise or just? 1044 hour league.
27:22
It depends where you go really. Goes he's a lot of questions.
27:27
I'm so high on Mariner, like going into this next year.
27:30
I think he'll be a top 2 forward on the team.
27:32
He. Goes to it but ranson and does
27:33
other fun things right like he shoots a decent amount.
27:36
Here though, he gets to go hit a game no like he could.
27:39
Get No 3-4, but he doesn't really.
27:40
Hit 3-4 face offs. Power play points are great.
27:43
Like there is a. Reliability of this season 1.07
27:46
points per game 2.6 shots Shots one face off wins 0.6 hits.
27:52
That's kind of. Sucks better.
27:55
Though 1.07 that's with like half or a little over half the
27:59
season with Colorado. I don't know, I'll be an
28:03
interesting one. I I wouldn't take him in the.
28:05
First round, 88 points. Would be.
28:06
I think it goes there. But I wouldn't take him in the.
28:09
First, I think it goes. 80 Miller or Rantanen?
28:11
Miller. Sidney Crosby around and.
28:14
Brandon. Crosby had 1.14 points per game.
28:19
I, I just, I, like I said earlier, like I'm going back to
28:21
my roots of I don't take old guys and I think it's totally
28:24
fair. Like you want him to, Crosby.
28:26
Obviously at the right price, but like severely undervalued.
28:31
Yeah, same. I think they finished with
28:34
around the same kind of levels. Who knows what's gonna happen?
28:37
I'll have to think. More about how you to chuckle
28:40
rather than. Matthew could Chuck.
28:41
OK, so he if he's in the first round, but like for sure I would
28:44
say. Banaron.
28:46
Panera and I would probably take over and then.
28:48
I would take. Panera was picked 17.
28:50
Last like fair, but why? I mean it's not even guaranteed.
28:56
Like Panera had a really bad year.
28:58
This. Year yeah but Kevin just like
29:00
read me the stats and like again it he switched to three teams
29:03
and one of them was rods and like you know nevertheless like.
29:08
I think he's gonna be worth a third or fourth round pick.
29:10
He's gonna go earlier than that. Yeah.
29:12
I think it goes in the first. I think some someone from your
29:15
league, and this is universal, you, us and everyone else
29:18
listening to this is going to see random players and be like
29:20
whoa, like I. Want this?
29:21
I think you could draft Tage Thompson in the 3rd and have a
29:24
have him be a better draft value or have a better season than
29:28
renting it. Yeah, I see that too.
29:29
I just think that's where he's gonna go.
29:31
I'm not gonna yeah necessarily take him in the first, but.
29:33
Like honestly, I am just kind of, I'm kind of wary of taking.
29:36
I would think I would take him. Second, I'm wary of Dallas in
29:40
general, just how deep they are. Yeah, like I think it's like
29:42
it's great or great real life thing, but it punishes all the
29:44
stars. On it, but if they. 100 team
29:46
like that. Legislative purpose?
29:49
Did you plan right? When you said something.
29:53
But did you plan? Did you plan the pun?
29:55
Yes. I'm weary of a team with so many
30:00
stars on it. You did what was intentional.
30:04
No, it wasn't, no. I saw her face lit up and I was
30:09
like wait, wait, hold on. Yeah, listen, I don't know.
30:13
I feel like I feel like ranting and will go in the first.
30:16
I think mid to late 2nd is. Fair.
30:19
Ryan Hardy ran to him. Reinhart, I listed so many guys
30:23
that's that should go in the second.
30:25
Round, Yeah, no, it's gonna be tough.
30:27
I mean, like I said, I agree. I wouldn't take Brandon in the
30:29
first, but I I wouldn't be happy with him in the second.
30:32
But it depends where in the second.
30:33
Would you take more and skier ranting and ranting rather than
30:36
really? Werenski such a big like like
30:40
it's roughest year of his career by so much.
30:43
I'll take. I'm taking ranting and over
30:46
Bouchard. Yeah, so I'm taking Rantanen
30:48
Quinn Hughes. You know, actually Bouchard,
30:50
it's gonna depend what contract he gets, get a ton of money it
30:54
the more money he gets paid, the higher I'm willing to take.
30:56
Him I think I personally would only take my car over at an AS.
31:00
A defence then yes, I think I agree.
31:02
With I think, I think Quinn Hughes, I think I take Darlene.
31:04
Hughes Actually, I gained a lot of respect.
31:07
For it, I'll leave this last year.
31:08
But again, like, they suck. They are so bad.
31:11
They're gonna be really not. Good like the one good player on
31:14
that team he can and he did it with how bad these.
31:19
Could be Nashville next year. Yeah, yeah, but Quinn Hughes is
31:22
not like, like he's not Yoshi's old, you know, so like and he
31:27
got injured. So there's a reason why I had a
31:28
bad year. Quinn, he's not gonna have a bad
31:30
year. Even if he has no surrounding
31:31
cast, he'll make it work. I don't know.
31:33
I just, I was so low on used for so many years and then just this
31:36
year I like something clicked and I was like, oh, wait, he's
31:39
actually is that guy, even though he doesn't do that many
31:41
back cats, just the amount of points he puts up.
31:45
Jacques. Yeah, OK.
31:47
Yeah. OK.
31:50
Firstly. Second, he's a pick in 12 person
31:52
league. He's a pick like 22 to like 30.
31:54
Yeah, that's. Fair.
31:55
I like it late. Second early 3rd to late 2nd.
31:57
Yeah, I see. I like him, Kempe.
32:00
No, I take. Brandon, OK.
32:02
Interesting how much you love them.
32:05
Yeah, Yeah. Alright, he's great.
32:07
Let's move to the next. This is February 11th.
32:09
Kevin Betts, Jake. That Wilson ends the season with
32:12
60. As.
32:13
Opposed to 60.5 plus points. You know well the volleyball
32:22
come along way from that island. You see that movie right you?
32:28
Ever see cows away? Why?
32:30
I'm missing a lot of Tom Hanks movies, clearly.
32:32
Ohv my gosh. Anyway, very good.
32:36
But. I also haven't seen I'm the
32:37
Captain now, but I've seen a lot of clips, yeah.
32:39
Have you seen Big? Yeah, I've seen big.
32:42
Haven't seen big. It's only because, like, you
32:44
love the office and the big picture is always up.
32:49
So Wilson ended the season with 65 points.
32:52
This was a career year because he never, he never beat 60
32:55
points. So that's why you felt really
32:56
determined when you made the bet.
32:57
Yeah, but clearly Washington was on one this year.
33:00
Do you think that he regresses points wise?
33:05
I think the entire Washington team regresses next year.
33:08
The only guys who aren't gonna regress are some of the young
33:10
guys who took a step this year and could take another one.
33:13
But The thing is. Like I like.
33:14
They may end up with Cole Hudson, which if any,
33:18
indications. He gonna play.
33:20
I don't know. I don't know if he plays, if he
33:22
plays like. You know, I think.
33:24
It's gonna be good for washing. Right now, I think Ryan
33:26
Leonard's gonna be good. Yeah, him too.
33:29
I actually think that they could be a very decent team this.
33:31
Year. You know who's not gonna be as
33:32
good as they were this year? Ovi, Pierre.
33:35
Luc Dubois. And I traded away.
33:38
No, I I still believe in Washington.
33:41
I obviously understand your. Concerns here.
33:43
What? Yeah, that's gonna be hard.
33:45
To Yeah, that's my. I I actually think that all the
33:50
guys that didn't that all the guys that showed up this year
33:54
were sick two years ago. Yeah, this is what I said about
33:57
them and produce is amazing yeah Proteus is sick and produces
34:02
brother is also like in the Washington pipeline is also
34:06
amazing. The pro Dye no like produces
34:12
Yeah, so. So the one LAX is 24, he's in
34:15
the NHL and the other ones 18 and he was picked by Washington
34:18
already. Yeah, he had like a pretty
34:20
monstrous league Yeah. Oh my God.
34:23
He got 124 points and 61 games in the.
34:26
NHL, Yeah, he's. Sick.
34:27
Yeah, he's nuts. Like, I mean, if they're gonna
34:30
like, I don't know, I believe in them still like.
34:32
I I understand too many things go right for them this year and
34:36
also you see how bad they were against Carolina and.
34:38
They were also riding the momentum.
34:40
That was the whole V chase. Like, yeah, I don't know.
34:43
I think you're only three teams in the metro made the playoffs.
34:46
It was Washington, Carolina, New Jersey, NJ barely slipped it in.
34:49
Yeah, that was weird. No.
34:56
So yeah, I think next Columbus. And you and the Rangers.
34:59
Could say, yeah, exactly. Yeah.
35:03
I mean, I could honestly see it being another year of Metro only
35:06
getting three teams in. And I think, I think, I think
35:09
Carolina and New Jersey I think are lock and I think Rangers
35:11
could easily pass a Caps next year.
35:13
I actually think that even without over, they're like
35:16
decently positioned to to be a a solid team, which is pretty.
35:20
Cool, incoming guy. It's like a lot of the prospects
35:22
you listed, and they took good steps.
35:23
Yeah, but I think a lot of their vets are gonna take a big step
35:26
back. Yeah, yeah, I actually looked
35:28
like who, though? Cole Hudson may all play.
35:30
No way he's repeating the year yet this year.
35:32
I think that he's going to regress.
35:35
I think John Carlson's getting older.
35:37
I think, I think chickens getting older.
35:39
I mean, he's. Pretty.
35:42
He's already, yeah, yeah, he's solid.
35:44
I think Logan Thompson had the best year of his career.
35:46
I think he's a good goalie, but he had like.
35:48
I see little people like Ben Hill type of thing.
35:51
I don't think he was the type of player who can stay on a team
35:54
for many years. I think he'll have some sort of
35:56
I'm actually. I'm actually encouraged on do
35:58
what? To be honest.
35:59
I feel like he finally found this spot after leaving Winnipeg
36:02
that like isn't complete trash and I feel like he finally found
36:06
a role where like in a team that he can thrive on, they had to
36:08
like success. I don't know.
36:09
We've seen this all before with him.
36:11
Not like this though. I mean, he had a way better year
36:13
in Winnipeg. He he had way better.
36:16
Season Minnesota right away on our way, right?
36:18
Yeah. He was bad, yeah.
36:19
He only was only there for one year, signed the eight-year
36:21
contract, got shipped out. Yeah, that was.
36:24
Insane. Bizarre.
36:25
Yeah, I, I hear their concerns, but I actually think they're
36:30
like, I know what you mean. Like especially with him, like I
36:34
kind of. Agree they won't be the leading
36:36
of the division. There is something to be said
36:38
though, if they don't have to focus on Ovie breaking the
36:40
record. Yeah, and they can arrest him
36:42
like he might be a bad fantasy pick this year.
36:47
For a lot of reasons, I'm to value for where you.
36:55
Pick, yeah, pick him in the forward.
36:56
Like he may end up being like 1/6 type value, but
36:59
nevertheless, like for the actual Washington team
37:02
themselves, I think they have enough guys that they could
37:04
build around it. But this is definitely going to
37:06
talk about this at the beginning.
37:07
Of the season. You know what's low key?
37:08
No, there will be no need top. In the league, though, there
37:10
won't be top in. The Watch Ovie become like the
37:12
best hitter in the league next year so he can get that record
37:15
of like most hits and most goals.
37:17
Yeah, I love that. Because it was recounting his
37:20
legs. Yeah, so many years ago.
37:22
I actually think he's. I love it so happy we like saw
37:26
his entire like evolution of the player.
37:29
So cool. But yeah, anyway, we're going to
37:31
see how it goes. I'm excited for our next year
37:33
predictions already and last but not least, February 26.
37:39
Kevin Betz Josh that ranted and will go below one point per game
37:42
rest of season between February 26th to the rest of the fantasy
37:46
season including playoffs. Josh takes over 1.
37:50
Rantanen was below one point per game.
37:53
Josh loses. I forgot to write exactly how
37:55
much, but it was like, it was like pretty close.
37:56
It was like a thing was like 27 games or something and he got
38:00
like 21 or 22 points. Or something.
38:03
Yeah. I mean, I was like, you guys
38:05
were both so low on ranting and I was just like, I didn't see
38:08
how a guy of that caliber take such a step back just out of
38:11
nowhere. Yeah, obviously not out of
38:12
nowhere. Trade happens, you know, like to
38:14
change. The scenery, yeah.
38:16
But I don't know, I thought you guys were mad.
38:18
Disrespecting Rantanen. Yeah.
38:20
I think turns out we were right. You were right, but also wrong.
38:23
You were you were right in these beds.
38:24
But then like, look at his playoff performance, you know,
38:27
like he he was the best player on the Stars by far.
38:29
Like he showed that he's still that unrealized.
38:31
Disrespecting the fact that he's a sick player.
38:33
I was low on him from Carolina and then I was low on the fact
38:36
that like going to a mid. Season Team 100.
38:38
So even for dollars, I was like, you know, worried, not being
38:41
said. Like it also just now in our
38:42
conversations, everyone's like saying low second round, high
38:45
third round, You know, I think it's.
38:46
Just no, I'm saying I think it goes on the 1st, but I
38:49
personally feel comfortable with him in the mid second.
38:52
Like, I think there's a lot of risks we listed, but you're
38:56
taking, you're taking like Colorado's the most it, like
39:01
Dallas is the deepest team in the league.
39:03
OK, fine. Edmonton.
39:04
Yeah. Well, you know what I don't?
39:06
Even know support and you know what you're right yeah literally
39:09
has no. Like, literally, it's just those
39:10
three. Well, he's.
39:12
Gonna actually put a number on this though.
39:13
I'm gonna rail off names right away to stop me.
39:15
When you would take a guy before, like after Renton.
39:19
OK, so when you hear name that ahead of this.
39:24
OK, you wanna find exactly? I'm gonna I'm gonna go fast.
39:26
OK, So McDavid, McKinnon, Matthews, Dry cell, Kucherov
39:29
Pasta, JT Mokar, Brady Could, Chuck, Matthew, Kochak, Jack.
39:34
OK JT, I would literally take Ranton and over JT I think
39:38
really depends where it goes. This was horrible this year.
39:42
Yeah, but now he's on the Rangers, he's not on.
39:44
The on the Rangers. Yeah, he's got a long contract.
39:46
Keep. Keep going.
39:47
OK, I said. Matthew could Chuck, Jack
39:50
Hughes. Presov.
39:52
Kaprizov. That's the first right there.
39:54
Yeah, easy. OK, Marner Knee Lander.
40:00
I think I would maybe consider that.
40:02
OK, I I went pretty low. The goalies are going to go
40:05
before. Chester is going to go before.
40:07
Vasilevski Maslowski. Yeah.
40:10
Most people's leagues on the case Panarin.
40:14
I think I take rant in an opinion, but it's tough.
40:18
Probably Quinn Hughes. Does this me personally or where
40:21
I think he's gonna go? This is you.
40:23
Personally, I would take granted overhears.
40:26
I'm thinking cues. I'm.
40:28
Just too ambiguous. I would take Reinhart over
40:33
Randon. So the three goalies, Reinhardt,
40:36
Panarin, let's say put monitor there, we've already named 19
40:42
guys. I just wanna draft already.
40:45
What are extremely high for next season?
40:47
If you're asking me, I'm taking Darlene over him, I'm taking
40:50
Neil under over him, I'm taking probably Warenski over him.
40:54
I'm talking missionary. I'm talking the one where
41:00
renting is on top. Let me put it this way, Jack
41:08
Eichel. Yeah, he calls the goat.
41:13
Connor Bedard or no? No.
41:17
Workers. What about celebrity?
41:20
I think celebrity goes on like the top 4 rounds.
41:23
I would take him in the top 4 rounds, so I don't think I'm
41:25
gonna end up getting him because I'm gonna try and like wait as
41:27
late as possible to get him and someone else is gonna get him
41:29
earlier. I think he's gonna.
41:31
Have such insane. Season I take natures.
41:37
Amazing. I mean, I'm just, I'm so high on
41:39
celebrity for. Next, they do celebrity gold
41:41
this year. I think 8th or. 9 Pretty late,
41:44
but I mean it was also it's like rookie year.
41:45
We have to think about it like Bedard was higher touted, more
41:48
highly touted, OK, later, like, you know what I mean?
41:51
Like so. Let's get.
41:55
There there's one name that I've not mentioned this whole podcast
41:58
because I've been saving it for this moment.
42:00
Baby, here we go. Go would you rather?
42:02
Moment, No, kind of, but I'm just like this is I wanted to
42:05
ask this question before we wrap it up and it was more like who's
42:09
the player that was drafted in like the early rounds that you
42:12
can see completely falling off or whatever.
42:16
Can I take a? Joke.
42:17
No. If you check, you'll find it.
42:18
So don't. Check.
42:19
Yeah, OK. This is a someone drafted really
42:22
early. Was drafted top 15 an hour
42:25
league. Top 15 and.
42:26
I haven't named him the whole the whole podcast.
42:29
I've been saving it. Yoshi.
42:31
No Draft 21st. OK, bullet on that one.
42:37
He's gonna go in four. 34 is gonna happen.
42:39
No, no. I'm gonna get drafted in the
42:41
second. Round 127.
42:42
Yeah, maybe 30. Yeah.
42:45
Not a Jack Hughes, no Jack Pick 13.
42:49
That's cheating, but I'm not going to say.
42:51
I'm not gonna say. It Why are you cheating?
42:52
Yeah, where's the fun in that? Ohe yeah, he went top top. 15
42:56
Top 15. Ohm man, I know this.
42:59
He went ahead. Of coronary ahead of it's so
43:02
Korsberg ahead. It's so crazy.
43:06
Like you'll just never guess because of how bad it was.
43:11
It was a bandage ad. No and although like similar
43:15
vibes. The vagina went pretty late.
43:17
No, it's about you went in the early 5th.
43:20
Would you take? OK, wait.
43:22
I want Josh to get it first. I'm gonna.
43:25
I would get it. Next year, would you take
43:28
Quinton Byfield over that guy? No.
43:31
OK, OK. Who got fagged along too early?
43:35
Larkin Yes. OK, so it's a centre.
43:38
Yeah, OK. That's a very clue.
43:40
It's a centre. That's fair.
43:42
I'm trying to remember, it's been so long.
43:44
Like draft literally happened like what, a year and a half
43:47
ago? It was a team that didn't make
43:48
the playoffs. OHS Stamkos No, no.
43:51
Oh, I thought I had it there. That's also.
43:55
He got drafted pretty early. Stamkos was 41.
43:57
Yeah, Top 15. I should know this.
44:00
I have actually. OK, I'll give you a really
44:02
narrow it down for you. It was a Canadian team.
44:05
A Canadian team. OK, let me go through the the
44:09
Canadians. It wasn't anyone on Calgary.
44:11
Oh, Peterson. Yeah.
44:13
Yeah, 15th. Yeah, he was awful.
44:15
Wow, this was the worst pick in the draft.
44:18
I'm not touching Peterson with it.
44:19
I mean, obviously everyone has. A Last year 1.09 points per
44:22
game. This last year 0.7.
44:25
What round does he have to drop 2 for you to grab him?
44:28
He had 0.7 points per game 1.7. Shots.
44:32
You wouldn't take him in the fifth round.
44:34
I like, I don't know, like in the. 50s like Larkin, Erickson,
44:37
neck, Kyle Conner, Stutzel Suzuki.
44:40
Yeah, he did that. All this.
44:42
Stuff. Yeah, I probably take Cofield
44:44
over Peterson. Yeah, honestly, Travis is the
44:49
GOAT. Jarvis is.
44:50
Yeah, he's. Like this is me.
44:52
This is me. Got started.
44:56
I didn't even hear OK, I just think the Canucks are in a bad.
45:01
Position. Yeah, he's supposed to be their
45:03
best player. No, Quinn, he was whether.
45:05
Or not going next season. He's gonna be top 6.
45:09
Top 6. Yeah, for sure.
45:11
You. Go.
45:11
I think, I think, I think, I think.
45:13
Ahead of him, really. I think real.
45:16
I know how he ended the season. No, he was a player.
45:20
He's like he's. Unbelievable cast now, specially
45:23
with Marshawn gone and like the team rebuilding.
45:24
But he's still, he's still pastor.
45:26
He's still unreal. Just remember that's a. 4 plus
45:30
shots per game easily over a point per game. 6 feels high
45:34
though, just because like you can get like a little bit more
45:36
reliably. McDavid, McKinnon.
45:39
Dry. Seidel Kucherov Matthews Pasta I
45:45
guess. Are you taking the car?
45:46
No, my car goes like 8th or 9th. Would you take my?
45:49
Car take passed over my car. I think my car overpassed
45:52
though. Really.
45:54
But McCarthy averages 1.15 points per game.
45:57
Came in car is insane. As the 95 from a defenseman or
46:00
100. Faster was 1.29 which is more.
46:02
Like 7th or 8th and I can get pasta.
46:04
I'm, like, overjoyed, yeah. I mean, he's amazing.
46:07
Yeah, you definitely could. It's just he's always worth.
46:09
That doesn't have that point. Like what's his best year ever,
46:13
110? 1.3.
46:15
Points per game. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty nuts.
46:18
Yeah. And the shots are insane.
46:19
Last year he hit 1.34. This year he hit 1.29.
46:22
Yeah, and this was an off year, this whole team.
46:24
Got 110 points, which is sick. I just don't think he like to
46:28
meet Kucherov is a step above like he could get 150.
46:30
Yeah, no, I'm just saying like. Like it's doesn't have the.
46:33
Shots at one point. Yeah, pasta could be A5 shots
46:39
per. Game like like.
46:40
I don't know. Maybe like 4 point?
46:43
After control 3.78 this year control 3 point.
46:46
Four, I'm not sure on him versus like Krill.
46:49
Last. Year really like I just.
46:51
Felt something more. But I feel like it's like a
46:52
question mark. I love probably pasta for sure.
46:55
Yeah, even though I think Minnesota so much better.
46:57
I know. Like Sock now?
46:59
Boston's probably, they're going to think.
47:03
Kaprizov is basically just Kucherov but young.
47:05
Not Kucherov. Passable, younger.
47:07
But he doesn't shoot as much. 3.73.54 Kaprizov.
47:13
Yeah. Is he younger?
47:15
Capri was younger, yeah. It's very young.
47:18
I don't think he's gonna be. One.
47:20
One year. One year.
47:21
Younger, he spent in the in the. But yeah, like, I know what
47:23
you're being Kevin, like in theory, but no, I think these
47:25
they're one year apart. He's only been in the league a
47:27
lot. Younger, though, he.
47:30
Got a baby face? Too.
47:31
Capizzo is 28. 28. Pazanne, 29.
47:38
That's. Why I thought I thought it was
47:41
like 25 or 20. Do you think Kevin goes next
47:43
year? Like obviously first round.
47:44
How like early first round? I could think of 6 or 7.
47:46
If I can get him like late first round would be so happy.
47:49
That's what I mean. I feel like 6 or 7 like one of
47:51
those two you. Know what?
47:52
I asked over cap though. I.
47:54
Get it? I probably.
47:55
I'm thinking cap, I think Minnesota is going to be.
47:57
No cap. No cap.
48:00
Be like you've always liked Minnesota, like like in Mr. And
48:04
Minnesota's been good like they they've they've always been.
48:06
Good to think a big. Job, If this is the year, I'm
48:08
not sure it's this year, next year, this is the year they lose
48:10
all that dead cap and they do something with it, then I think
48:13
that it's a really good move taking any of those Minnesota
48:15
guys. Even if they still have the top,
48:17
look how good they were this year. 100% but I mean if they
48:20
stopped dead cap, there's not gonna be that big of a jump year
48:22
to year. If they remove that, then they
48:24
are going to take another step. Kept like had injury issues and
48:28
he got like that surgery done, you know, so he should be like,
48:30
good to go. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
48:33
I I so many good players, you know.
48:36
Yeah, where's? He's only got one of them on
48:38
your team, so what's the worst part?
48:40
I know. I like really so hyped about
48:42
this right now. 4th grade away, your first rounder next year.
48:45
Trade him to me, not Kevin. I want.
48:47
That that trade put Jackie back in the race.
48:49
I'm not to be. Honest.
48:50
I'm just saying that, you know, that's our thing.
48:52
So you you get your own thing. I hope.
48:55
I didn't make a treat this year, Jose.
48:57
You got in his head. You could have ripped me off so
48:59
many. Times literally just want a
49:00
middle first round pick like that's all I want.
49:03
That's crazy. I want top three giving David
49:06
Drizzle making and. Then who are you gonna trade?
49:09
Like your whole strategy has been like top 4?
49:11
Like my second and third round pick that's.
49:13
Yeah, I guess they're. Still really good guys.
49:16
In secondary, drop defenseman. Exactly 100%.
49:20
Yeah, there comes a time where you just kind of like, I don't
49:23
know, have to have to keep your your players that you that you
49:27
pick like in the top and then just like trade them mid guys.
49:30
Like I feel like that that strategy before you join the
49:34
league really worked. And then I think, I think
49:39
before. Josh joined the lead.
49:40
The league was way less competitive.
49:42
Yeah, that's. Crazy.
49:44
No, you definitely like out at a certain flair.
49:48
To it. But like, I feel like if if
49:51
people hold strong and kind of just like make like moderate
49:54
moves, like I wonder like one year, I wanna see like who's
49:57
draft is the best, Yeah, you know what I mean?
50:00
But at the same time, I'm like, yeah, trading is so fun.
50:02
Yeah. It's just so devastating because
50:04
like, it's like, why? You know what I mean?
50:06
Who? Who?
50:07
Just happened the three of us had the best draft this year.
50:09
I had a bad. Dream I had an amazing draft if
50:11
I didn't get screwed by injuries.
50:13
Like, well, that's how I feel as well.
50:15
I got killed by injuries. Yeah, like I I drafted a very.
50:18
Decent team Wolf in the 20th but then you dropped him so that's
50:21
like. I said I had an amazing job.
50:24
I didn't say my decisions were good.
50:27
Have to cut or go to your Brent Clark and Leo Carlson?
50:33
I feel like all of those guys, your life back.
50:37
Logan Thompson 15th, Byfield 14th, 13th best.
50:43
Yeah, I can't think of. Anything gender test and then
50:46
just decides to not play. Be injured until he could join
50:49
the top. Players, team.
50:50
Yeah, now I feel like McAvoy was a bus pick.
50:53
Macavoy sucked. And then I took.
50:56
My first four picks were decent and all hip.
50:59
All this to say I don't know I feel like I just really want to
51:02
like get like a decent pick like mid to late first round.
51:06
Just have like a boring life and win.
51:09
That's the plan I could focus on not trading.
51:12
You won't bug me for like my overall pick.
51:16
I'll just have a good time. Yeah, that's fair.
51:20
But anyway, I don't know. We'll see.
51:22
Well, I'm really, really curious to see obviously what the moves
51:25
this offseason. By the way listeners, we will
51:27
definitely be keeping in contact by making episodes to with
51:32
updates and stuff like. That on Myspace?
51:36
No, you said that. You got that?
51:38
You know, we'll keep putting episodes out this summer to to
51:42
give you guys updates on like, you know, any of.
51:44
Them doing, you know. Around the not the trade
51:48
deadline, free agency like when there's a lot of like.
51:51
Big moves like July. Yeah.
51:53
So that's going to be really exciting to talk about because
51:55
obviously like a lot of what we spoke about now is regarding
51:59
like how things went this season and where we could predict them
52:01
going next season. But you know Marner big name.
52:04
Those can't wait to see what. Happens like stuff like that.
52:06
So that could be a huge, huge. Different agency or is that
52:09
like? There's gonna be a bidding war
52:12
for him for sure. Yeah, but we'll definitely be
52:14
like talking about it over the summer.
52:16
And what's your? What's your worst case scenario
52:18
for Mariner? Team.
52:19
Wise, yeah, Carolina, me, it's Toronto.
52:23
He just comes back on a proven deal or something.
52:26
There's no way he would ever take a less than like 15 mil.
52:28
15. Caps going up.
52:31
I know he's not getting 15. OK, fine, 14.
52:35
I think he gets like 13 or. Something does he like the pick
52:38
of where he goes like he could like pick it?
52:40
Yeah, he's UFA. Yeah, he's gonna go wherever
52:42
they give the money. Yeah, well, actually I don't
52:44
know about. That you know, I think so.
52:46
I think at that point, I think Martin double gotta If he's
52:48
leaving Toronto like this, he's gonna want to win.
52:51
So you think he's going to Chicago?
52:53
If they're willing to pay him shows.
52:55
That I just said they give the most money.
52:57
Chicago, Chicago could I'm saying he's not gonna like he
53:00
could go somewhere where he gets like 12 instead of 14, but like
53:03
it's a better team. You know what?
53:04
I. Mean, no, I see him taking the
53:05
money. I mean, he's always, all his
53:07
contract negotiations so far with Toronto have been like,
53:09
give me as much. Money agent thing than whatever.
53:12
His agents like his dad or something I.
53:14
Don't know really. Like, around, he resigned.
53:17
It was like his dad got involved, like, you know, like,
53:20
yeah. Where where?
53:22
Where do you like realistically? Go, I saw people say though.
53:24
Carolina, Chicago, I think are too.
53:26
High would be fun I. Love you only.
53:28
Have the room, they have a bunch of young stars that are they're
53:31
gonna have to sign in the next year or two coming off LCI.
53:34
Don't think they have. You go to like Columbus.
53:37
I think they do have room. I think you miss stuff up there.
53:42
It's also because he's got like this kind of like The Hobbit
53:45
people, this narrative of like not the best character also not
53:48
being clutch in the playoffs, you know, so like.
53:50
I don't know about character, but I feel like it's more of
53:52
like the playoff concern and stuff like can't come through
53:54
when it matters the most type of thing.
53:56
Which I personally think that's BS.
53:57
Yeah, I think that like. It just does Matthews.
53:59
Done. Yeah, exactly.
54:00
I don't understand why year after year all the blame seems
54:03
to fall on Marner when Matthew should get way more blame than
54:05
Marner. Yeah, it's like.
54:07
You think like a better actual NHL player between the two?
54:10
Matthews. Yeah, I think Matthews like
54:13
Unreal player. I just I I I think I agree.
54:15
Big injury issues, like I think he's had a lingering injury for
54:19
the past like 3 years that yeah, yeah, I think that was like, I,
54:23
I don't know if it's the same injury, but he has, I don't
54:25
think he's been fully healthy in like 3 years.
54:27
Imagine Margaret ends up going to Colorado or something.
54:30
That would be sick. Yeah, that that no like
54:32
nullifies everything I said about.
54:34
Nature. Yeah, doubled.
54:38
What you think we should think is worse?
54:39
Yes, that could be a line, the three of them.
54:42
No, well, firstly they're both right wing, like famously right
54:45
wing, but also I mean you could switch wings which would be
54:49
cool, but I just feel like I don't know, I feel like they
54:53
probably. Right, the right wing and
54:57
defence eligibility. That would be fun.
55:00
I actually like. How early would you think Martin
55:02
if he had defenseman eligibility?
55:03
1st row first. Like how early in the first
55:06
maybe 6th that was so fun if he got like right wing defence
55:10
ineligibility. Yeah, like, actually like,
55:13
honestly. I mean, that's basically what
55:15
McCaul is right now and he goes like 8 or 9.
55:19
Yeah, I think it's more for just like the hype and the novelty.
55:22
It's like this guy. Yeah.
55:25
Do you think like? I guess it's true, but I.
55:28
Guess the utilities like a lot. Less more blocks I guess also.
55:32
But I guess more shorties. OK.
55:34
OK, to be fair. Maybe gonna focus on shorties?
55:37
Like take them over. In my book.
55:40
Yeah, exactly. I take him over.
55:42
You you think all the shorties guys, Wilson literally like your
55:47
team was all shorties guys. I'm so excited, yeah.
55:49
Does that wrap it up guys? Yeah, everyone chugged their
55:53
last. Year one last thing I wanna say
55:56
though, I feel like obviously, like Jake said, keep an eye on
55:59
the offseason content. I want to ask, I don't know, I
56:02
didn't push it to you guys, but I feel like having a Discord
56:04
server would be would be sick for the podcast.
56:07
And that way it's kind of like a forum where everybody, like, you
56:09
know, fans of the podcast can join.
56:11
You can ask each other questions.
56:12
And we can always kind of like, chime in there like it's an easy
56:14
place to. Yeah, talk.
56:16
We'll, we'll talk about it. Yeah.
56:17
Good idea. Yeah, we'll definitely like
56:19
announce that if we made it for the next episode.
56:21
Was listening to these summer episodes are probably solid fans
56:24
of ours so I'd love to. If you made it this far and you
56:27
heard this last question, let. Us know I'll probably make a
56:30
Reddit post just about these RB read episode, you know, like
56:33
kind of summing up the season and all that.
56:35
So I'll tell people to, you know, leave comments there.
56:38
What they would like to see in the offseason.
56:40
Spotify's comments comment on the Yeah on that or wherever you
56:44
get your podcasts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
56:48
Anyway, everybody enjoy the finals.
56:52
As a Canadian, yeah, yeah, I'm obligated to say go Oilers.
56:58
I think I'm the last thing I want Oilers to win this.
57:00
Year, yeah, I I'd like to see the Oilers win, I mean.
57:02
Like I need to get a cup. Yeah, for sure.
57:05
I feel like that would be a lot of pressure off of like all of
57:07
us as hockey fans shoulders is like, what if McDavid goes his
57:10
entire career without a cup? Let's just get that out of the
57:12
way. Yeah, same with dry side, you
57:13
know, get them their cup and then we can chill for the rest
57:16
of their career. What happens?
57:17
Yeah, it's. True.
57:18
What happens if they lose back-to-back Cubs in Game 7?
57:21
Blow it up with David for spare parts.
57:25
Title to the Leafs and then they'll take Marner.
57:28
Oh my God that's my worst nightmares as certified leaf
57:32
sader. Imagine mentally coming back
57:34
from that though. Yeah, even after losing game
57:37
seven in. By one goal.
57:39
By one goal. Coming back by three years now,
57:42
this year is there. This is their chance at revenge.
57:44
They, you know, not many teams get their chance at revenge like
57:46
this, but especially like one year after.
57:49
Florida is just so good. True, they're the perfect
57:52
playoff team. You know the perfect like mix of
57:54
like dirty and skills like. On three, we say who we think is
57:58
gonna win, OK. OK, OK.
58:02
I'm shooter like. Like 123 you say?
58:04
It OK Alright, this is gonna be great for listeners hearing a
58:08
bunch of jumbled things. Alright, 123 pointers.
58:13
I think the Panthers are gone. I said, I said Oilers.
58:16
Yeah, I think the Panthers are going to win anyways.
58:19
Yes, yes. Only if you finish your beer
58:25
before the episode finishes. All blog.
58:32
All right, take it away, Josh. Take it away and take it away
58:37
Outbound bang your management fantasy hockey podcast your bed
58:40
episode episode 2. You can't always go third.
58:47
I don't know what to say. You've been absolutely.