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Windy City up ahead!: Steelers - Bears Game Preview · The Irish Steelers Podcast

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Speaker 1: You're very welcome into the Irish Theaters Podcast present of
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Speaker 1: by Erlin, because as we get ready for Week twelve
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Speaker 1: of the NFL season, and it's weird even saying week
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Speaker 1: twelve of the season, because it feels like yesterday Friday,
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Speaker 1: last Friday, with the Steelers were coming into Dublin and
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Speaker 1: the hype was up and up and up, and now
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Speaker 1: we're almost at the end, which is hopefully not at
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Speaker 1: the end for the Steers, but almost at the end
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Speaker 1: of of the regular season. I can't think of a
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Speaker 1: better guest in terms of giving us a bit of
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Speaker 1: an illustrative view from what it is genuinely like over
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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania right now than Mike pursued it. Mike, I
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Speaker 1: believe this is your second time on the podcast, a
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Speaker 1: man that knows it all in terms of the local
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Speaker 1: media in Pittsburgh. Firstly, welcome in. How are you doing
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Speaker 1: and thanks for coming on and I know it's a
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Speaker 1: busy time of year for.
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Speaker 2: You, Oh doing well? Thanks for having me. Glad we
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Speaker 2: could get this worked out. I wish I was back
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Speaker 2: in Dublin. I had such a good time when the
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Speaker 2: Steerers grow over that I didn't want to leave.
1:01
Speaker 1: It's funny because when I think I seen you at
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Speaker 1: the Parkers game in the press box, and I genuinely
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Speaker 1: felt guilt because I realized there and then I didn't
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Speaker 1: see this guy in Dublin because that week was just mental.
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Speaker 1: Did you enjoy your time over there, Like, what was
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Speaker 1: it like for you a little bit?
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I had a great pot couldn't have been better.
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Speaker 2: That the people were really welcoming right into a lot
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Speaker 2: of people I know from back here, which I kind
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Speaker 2: of expected. And one of the better games of the year.
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Speaker 2: So on in all, a great couple of days.
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Speaker 1: I think before we talk staters, it definitely was the
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Speaker 1: best international game. Obviously I'm biased, but I thought the
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Speaker 1: crack the fun was mighty across the city. When you
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Speaker 1: see so I've been in Berlin Madrid last two weekends.
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Speaker 1: It's been like, look, get the small valut I'd hear, Mike,
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Speaker 1: but it's been fantastic, and you start to see rumors
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Speaker 1: of like parous and different cities being on it. Did
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Speaker 1: you ever imagine ten twenty thirty years ago in your
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Speaker 1: time covering the league, that we'd see the game grow
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Speaker 1: to this point where we you know, we potentially at
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Speaker 1: some point down the line could have games almost every
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Speaker 1: weekend or not.
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Speaker 2: I never did way back when I know they dabbled
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Speaker 2: a long time ago with some exhibition game. I never
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Speaker 2: thought it's your regular season game outside of the States,
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Speaker 2: but not only games every weekend. I imagine we'll get
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Speaker 2: to the point at some point we will be a
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Speaker 2: team over there somewhere.
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Speaker 1: That would be interesting. Hopefully that is the case. Again,
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Speaker 1: we're just expressing our opinion here, but hopefully if it
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Speaker 1: is that case, we get to see the Staders come
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Speaker 1: over a lot more.
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Speaker 3: I know.
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Speaker 1: That's the one thing I will say. They're very very
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Speaker 1: welcome back whenever they want, any week, any month. They're
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Speaker 1: very very welcome back, as well as yourself, Mike. Mike,
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Speaker 1: We're we'll look back in at Bengals game in a
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Speaker 1: week second, but just before that, if you look at
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Speaker 1: where his team has went from from leaving Dublin to
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Speaker 1: where they are even like week nine, Week ten, hopping
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Speaker 1: ups and downs. But as somebody that has you know,
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Speaker 1: been there in the flash and seen them play a
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Speaker 1: lot more than a lot of people that listen to
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Speaker 1: this podcast, and of course everybody's very very welcome. We're
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Speaker 1: having a good weekend here. How do you evalue it
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Speaker 1: the last twelve eleven weeks, generally, you know.
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Speaker 2: It's been inconsistent. I think what we saw in the
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Speaker 2: Dublin game against the Vikings was what they wanted to
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Speaker 2: look like. They ran the ball well, they played outstanding defense,
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Speaker 2: they played with energy, they played with emotion, and we've
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Speaker 2: seen them do that periodically since then, but not often enough.
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Speaker 2: I think starting with the game in Chicago, it's a
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Speaker 2: very very winnable game in my estimation, but it's also
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Speaker 2: one they can lose if they're not at their best.
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Speaker 2: And I think that's the kind of team to s
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Speaker 2: Field have evolved into this year. You know, there were years.
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Speaker 2: It's been a while, but there were years when they
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Speaker 2: can show up and kind of playing a sixty seventy
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Speaker 2: percent clip and still get away with it. I don't
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Speaker 2: think they're good enough to do that anymore, but I
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Speaker 2: think when they're under the game, they can compete with anybody.
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Speaker 3: And this is the time in the NFL season when
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Speaker 3: you sort of have to stand up and be counted.
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Speaker 3: It's time to make a move.
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Speaker 2: And you know, Chicago Baltimore, we're gonna know all we
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Speaker 2: need to know about the Steelers after the next three games,
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Speaker 2: I think.
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Speaker 1: Obviously Thanksgiving coming up, and we are recording this actually
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Speaker 1: on the Friday, like just after the Bills lost on
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Speaker 1: Thursday Night football. Really interesting the end of that game
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Speaker 1: before we talk about this game coming up this week,
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Speaker 1: and the AFC norph never ceases to me? Is it
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Speaker 1: feels like the rest of the teams outside of Pittsburgh
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Speaker 1: had a bit of a slow start and now we
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Speaker 1: suddenly see Baltimore coming back again. Just how not concerned,
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Speaker 1: but just just how aware do you think this team
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Speaker 1: needs to be of this team because we are going
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Speaker 1: to face of Ravens very quickly again. And you know,
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Speaker 1: for a team like Baltimore that have not had a
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Speaker 1: great season, they struggled a bit last week, but they
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Speaker 1: still are getting fluid. And it's not typical AFC North style,
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Speaker 1: gritty football at this time of the year where no
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Speaker 1: one's gonna care what the score was in six months time.
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Speaker 1: As long as you get that w that.
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Speaker 2: Was well said, it's AFC North football. Is AFC North football.
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Speaker 2: Excuse me for sounding like Mike Tomlin. I don't know
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Speaker 2: if you got a chance to see the Ravens Browns game.
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Speaker 2: The Browns don't have a very good record. They played
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Speaker 2: right after the Steelers played the Bengals. The Browns gave
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Speaker 2: the Ravens everything they could handle and then some Baltimore
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Speaker 2: was fortunate to win that game. And I know the
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Speaker 2: Ravens are on a bit of a role, but they
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Speaker 2: certainly don't look like an unbeatable team.
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Speaker 3: And even if they did.
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Speaker 2: I can just tell you from my experience when the
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Speaker 2: schedule comes out, I look at the AFC, I look
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Speaker 2: at the schedule, and then I look at the six
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Speaker 2: games in the AFC North that I figure well probably
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Speaker 2: three and three in those games, and I think everybody
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Speaker 2: else in the division does the same thing. It's just
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Speaker 2: there's something about it. It is so competitive. I get Cincinnati.
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati's gonna play Baltimore on that Thanksgiving night. I give
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Speaker 2: Cincinnati a good chance to win that game. You really
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Speaker 2: can't pound on anything when ANC North teams play against
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Speaker 2: each other.
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Speaker 1: It's funny whenever we literally you just mentioned Cincinnati there. Now,
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow looks like he's probably gonna come back either
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Speaker 1: this week or next week, so we're certainly gonna see
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Speaker 1: him again in the last few weeks of the season.
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Speaker 1: In the AFC North. We're gonna hear from Aaron Rodgers
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Speaker 1: in a second mic on this podcast in regards to
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Speaker 1: his press conference or his press availability this week. As
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Speaker 1: somebody that's sort of seen first hand, he went out
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Speaker 1: last week two part question three of My friend and
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. At the age he is with his career,
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Speaker 1: everything that's happened down through the years, I refuse to
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Speaker 1: believe on a personal standpoint that he does not want
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Speaker 1: to play a Chicago potentially for the first just potentially
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Speaker 1: for the last time in Soldier Field. I thinel like
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Speaker 1: he's gonna do whatever he can to make it and
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Speaker 1: if he can't make it on Sunday in terms of
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Speaker 1: starting the game or if he has to come in
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Speaker 1: and come out with this injury that he has, and
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Speaker 1: I feel like we've got a pretty good backup in
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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph. I was pretty impressed with what he was
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Speaker 1: able to do in terms of sort of man in
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Speaker 1: the edges there last week when he came in. How
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Speaker 1: much do you like Mason Rudolph if we need him
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Speaker 1: on Sunday.
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Speaker 2: Very And it's not so much how impressed I am
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Speaker 2: with him, that's important, But I can tell you his
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Speaker 2: teammates are impressed with him. His teammates believe in him.
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure when we're posting this, people may know
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Speaker 2: who's starting by then they may not.
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Speaker 3: It may come down to Sunday.
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Speaker 2: And I agree with you one hundred percent on your
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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers set, but I think he definitely wants to
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Speaker 2: play in this game.
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Speaker 3: You really want to shot at the Bear.
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Speaker 2: So he's done so well against over the years, and
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Speaker 2: that was such a great rivalry when he was in
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Speaker 2: Green Bay. But honestly, I think it would be probably
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Speaker 2: in the best inchest to Rogers and the best interest
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Speaker 2: of the Steelers if he didn't play, because I think
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Speaker 2: they can win with Mason Rudolph.
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Speaker 3: I don't have any qualms about that. And I'm also
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Speaker 3: aware of the nearon.
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Speaker 2: Rodgers is going to turn forty two on December the second,
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Speaker 2: and this is a long year, and I think they
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Speaker 2: brought him here to be their quarterback in December and January,
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Speaker 2: as well as October, November and December, and if he
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Speaker 2: could just.
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Speaker 3: Get a little break.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how much good a week off would
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Speaker 2: do a fractured risk, but I bet it would do
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Speaker 2: the rest of him a.
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Speaker 3: Whole lot of good.
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Speaker 2: He's probably got a cranky back and an achy knee
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Speaker 2: and a bum ankle and some other as Mike Tomlin
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Speaker 2: might say, aches and pains associated.
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Speaker 3: With the playing of football.
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Speaker 2: That's not easy to do when you're thirty one or
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Speaker 2: twenty one, let alone forty one. So, just between you
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Speaker 2: and me and who's ever tuning in, I'm kind of
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Speaker 2: hoping to see Mason Rudolph on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: Very interesting the statsmen there. We know how much this
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Speaker 1: team has relied before missing Rudolph in big moments, and
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Speaker 1: we know that he can deliver. So whoever is under center,
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Speaker 1: we wishing the best to look. We're gonna hear from
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Speaker 1: a couple of people on this podcast this week before
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Speaker 1: we get Mike's keys for the game. The first person
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Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from is Steeters head coach Mike Tomlin
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Speaker 1: in his weekly media availability ahead of this game, which
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Speaker 1: is actually on sky Sports NFL this weekend. The Bears
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Speaker 1: against Steeters on the Irish Theaters podcast presented by Earning Us.
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Speaker 4: They have Dennis Allen as their coordinator. He's been around.
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Speaker 4: He has a mode of operation, if you will, and
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Speaker 4: you see it in their video. They cover it taking
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Speaker 4: the ball away. They lead the league in takeaways. I
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Speaker 4: think they got twenty two on the season. DA also
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Speaker 4: prides himself in good possession down defense. I think the
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Speaker 4: second in the league in terms of third down success rate.
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Speaker 4: And I think those two statistics are the catalysts for
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Speaker 4: why they're playing really good defense and they are seven
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Speaker 4: and three football team. They take the ball away from people,
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Speaker 4: They're playing really good on possession downs. Offensive units are
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Speaker 4: at about thirty three point seven I think percent conversion rates.
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Speaker 4: Couple that with what's going on on the offensive side
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Speaker 4: of the ball, you certainly have your challenges. They got
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Speaker 4: quality players at all levels. They picked up Sweat a
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Speaker 4: couple of years ago from from Washington. He's the signature
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Speaker 4: of their front and edge rush. He's a challenge certainly
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Speaker 4: to deal with and has been at the linebacker level.
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Speaker 4: Edmonds Man is a sideline a sideline tackler, big time athlete.
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Speaker 4: He's a good blitzer. I think he's got four interceptions
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Speaker 4: on the season. They got some guys in the secondary
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Speaker 4: that are really taking advantage of some circumstances Man and
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Speaker 4: getting people in one dimensional moments. People have to absorb
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Speaker 4: risk to keep pace with them come back in football games,
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Speaker 4: et cetera. And they're getting a lot of turnovers. Kevin
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Speaker 4: has done it a long time at the safety position.
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Speaker 4: He's been a ball guy. I was just you know,
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Speaker 4: talking to someone this morning. Man, he picked off balls
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Speaker 4: as a member of the Tennessee Titans. He picked off
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Speaker 4: balls at Middle Tennessee State. Guys that have a you know,
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Speaker 4: have a have a knack for for for securing the ball.
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Speaker 4: Generally they do it regardless of environment. And he and
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Speaker 4: it certainly continues in Chicago for him. I think he
11:20
Speaker 4: leaves them with five interceptions. Uh, they get some quality
11:24
Speaker 4: play outside at corner as well. Man Gardner Johnson is
11:30
Speaker 4: a is a recent acquisition for them, and boy, he
11:33
Speaker 4: has really got on the moving train and to really
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Speaker 4: impressive fashion. He plays the nickel for him. He blitzes
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Speaker 4: quite a bit. He's really good and underneath the fence
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Speaker 4: and man the man circumstances. I think he's got three sacks.
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Speaker 4: As I mentioned there, their third down posture is an
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Speaker 4: aggressive one, being an up posture. A lot they blitz
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Speaker 4: and bring a lot of people, Gardner Johnson being one
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Speaker 4: of them. But I'd be remiss if I didn't mention
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Speaker 4: Briskery as well. He's a down safety that's in around
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Speaker 4: the in and around the line of scrimmage quite a bit.
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Speaker 4: I've known that young man a long time and got
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Speaker 4: respect for his talents and his relationship with the game.
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Speaker 4: DJ Moore and others. Man are really impressive. But he's
12:15
Speaker 4: also got some emerging young people, and you feel the
12:18
Speaker 4: emergence of some of their young talent. Lovelin obviously had
12:21
Speaker 4: a big game the other week against the Bengals. He's
12:25
Speaker 4: on He's on the come, and so is Luther, their
12:27
Speaker 4: young receiver from Missouri. It's just, particularly as you get
12:33
Speaker 4: to this stage of the season, some of these young
12:36
Speaker 4: talented people that that people have a lot of draft
12:40
Speaker 4: capital invested in usually captures my attention. They're usually uh
12:44
Speaker 4: finding their footing in this thing, and and their talents
12:47
Speaker 4: are starting to show up more consistently. And so those
12:50
Speaker 4: are two lesser known guys that that that that really
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Speaker 4: have my attention as a study and watch tape, and
12:56
Speaker 4: we're at the early stages of formulating the plan. Can't
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Speaker 4: say enough about their commitment to the run game. Though
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Speaker 4: they're number two in the league in Russian and you
13:05
Speaker 4: can't underscore that, but that's something that was very evident.
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Speaker 4: That commitment was very evident from his time in Detroit
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Speaker 4: as well, and so we're working with an edge man.
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Speaker 4: We're excited about going into a hostile venue, playing against
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Speaker 4: a really good team. If you're a competitor, if you're
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Speaker 4: looking to get better, if you're looking to prove prove
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Speaker 4: yourself continually, those are some variables that are really attractive.
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Speaker 4: But again, we show our excitement by being locked in
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Speaker 4: and having good preparation days and I'm looking forward to
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Speaker 4: that over the course of this week.
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Speaker 1: The big question this week at the time of recording
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Speaker 1: is will Aaron Rodgers start the game on Sunday Time
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Speaker 1: will tell you heard, but Mike have to say about it.
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty easy about it myself. We'll see what happens, folks.
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Speaker 1: Let's hear from Arn Rodgers QB and his media availability
13:53
Speaker 1: on this week's edition of The Irish Titters podcast presented
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Speaker 1: by Earnings.
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Speaker 5: It feels better than it did Sunday, sure, and I
14:00
Speaker 5: was in a lot of pain. We were late and
14:02
Speaker 5: play clock called time out came over. I feel like
14:05
Speaker 5: I could go one more play and then went in
14:07
Speaker 5: gotta checked out. I was thankful to get today to
14:09
Speaker 5: work with Gabe and just focus on reapp for a day.
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to get back on the field tomorrow and
14:14
Speaker 5: see see what I can do. There's an incentive for
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Speaker 5: every opponent. But I have enjoyed many a Sunday and Monday,
14:20
Speaker 5: and it's been a Thursdays in that city. It's a
14:25
Speaker 5: great sports town, phenomenal sports fans and great place to
14:30
Speaker 5: play here. Do you sort of thrive off of being
14:32
Speaker 5: the villain there a little bit? Sort of enjoy that
14:36
Speaker 5: I'd rather not be. I mean, I'm not in Green
14:38
Speaker 5: Bay anymore. I feel like we can let bygones be bygones.
14:43
Speaker 5: Maybe I can. I guess it's been. It's a great rivalry.
14:47
Speaker 5: I mean, in the history of all sports, you talk
14:51
Speaker 5: about the Lakers and the Celtics and the Red Sox
14:54
Speaker 5: and the Yankees, you got to talk about the Packers
14:56
Speaker 5: and the Bears, and there's been some great memories there.
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Speaker 5: When I first got to Green Bay, the Bears had
15:02
Speaker 5: the all time series lead. When I left, Packers did,
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Speaker 5: and since Jay Love is taking over, it's even gotten better.
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Speaker 5: But I hope, I hope those fans can put that.
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Speaker 5: Put that behind them. I'm sure they can't. Don't expect
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Speaker 5: them too. But I really enjoyed the city. They got
15:18
Speaker 5: a great sports fan. I grew up watching WGN on
15:21
Speaker 5: my five five channel TV back in the day, so
15:25
Speaker 5: I was a Cubs fan and a Bulls fan. How
15:27
Speaker 5: can I be a Bulls fanless? You don't like Michael Jordan?
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Speaker 2: I did.
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Speaker 5: I love them, So it was a lot of fun
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Speaker 5: memories over the years playing there.
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Speaker 1: Their defense streets a lot of turnovers.
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Speaker 3: They what do they do?
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Speaker 1: Especially that you have to watch out.
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Speaker 5: We're the great round of football. They're knocking the ball out.
15:41
Speaker 5: They have a lot of vision in their defenses. They
15:43
Speaker 5: mix things up, they attack your protection schemes. Coach Coach
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Speaker 5: Allen's got them playing really well, and twenty two turnovers
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Speaker 5: is a big reason there's seventy three. Yeah, it was
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Speaker 5: a great kid. He's been playing really well the last
15:56
Speaker 5: three weeks and I'm proud of him. He's in practicing
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Speaker 5: the right way. He's been growing and working on his craft,
16:02
Speaker 5: and he's so damn fast.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 5: We talked about that route and I was hoping he'd
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Speaker 5: be a little bit more deliberate, but listen, row is
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Speaker 5: A and and Cal. Those guys are such great dudes.
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Speaker 5: They really they want to do it right by me
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Speaker 5: and my Arthur and the offense. And I got but
16:20
Speaker 5: love an appreciation to those guys.
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Speaker 1: Mike, before we let you go, my friend, let's look
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Speaker 1: ahead to this game. Give me your pursuit. As three
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Speaker 1: keys to the game for this game against the Bears,
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Speaker 1: because for me, it's we know how good this Chicago
16:35
Speaker 1: defense can be and how good Dallas Island has made
16:37
Speaker 1: it in such a short period. We are going to
16:39
Speaker 1: be under the CAUs at certain times, and it's really
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Speaker 1: about getting points on the board and ensuring that we
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Speaker 1: allow this offense to be on the fields as much
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Speaker 1: as possible.
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Speaker 2: Really, the turnover battle. Both of these teams are great
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Speaker 2: at turning the other team over, and they both it's
16:55
Speaker 2: very important to the pursuit of victory for both of them.
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Speaker 2: So turn the ball over a fewer times than the Bears,
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Speaker 2: take it away more time than the Bears.
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Speaker 3: The other one is the running game.
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Speaker 2: Chicago runs the ball really well second in the NFL,
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Speaker 2: and rushing offense fourth, and total offense. I think with
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Speaker 2: the job the Steelers did against Jonathan Taylor Nicoles. That
17:18
Speaker 2: gives me great confidence that they're able to shut the
17:22
Speaker 2: run down the way they'll need to. And last, but
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Speaker 2: not least, the quarterback Caleb Williams. He's more dangerous to
17:29
Speaker 2: me when he gets outside the pocket than when he's
17:31
Speaker 2: in the pocket. He doesn't throw many interceptions, but he's
17:34
Speaker 2: not the most accurate of passes either. He really does
17:38
Speaker 2: his most significant damage when he gets outside the pocket,
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Speaker 2: and he's kind of making it up as he goes along.
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Speaker 2: He can run, but he can really hurt you throwing
17:48
Speaker 2: in those situations. So it's really a fine line for
17:51
Speaker 2: the guys rushing the past or to have to straddle
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Speaker 2: because you want to get back there and knock the
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Speaker 2: guy down and get your sack.
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Speaker 3: But he's also very good at escaping, so kind of
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Speaker 3: a curve.
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Speaker 2: Just keep him contained, and I think they get out
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Speaker 2: of there with a w.
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Speaker 1: The game is on sky Sports NFL this weekend for
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Speaker 1: Irish staters. Fans are actually in Chicago for this game. Mike,
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to wish you the best for the
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Speaker 1: rest of the season and thank you very much for
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Speaker 1: coming on. It's such a busy, busy time. I have
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Speaker 1: no doubt we're talking again at some point. Thanks so
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Speaker 1: much fun,