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Ep. 12: Roster Takes Before Final Preseason Game | Jags A.M. Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: They're approaching the final game of the preseason. So who
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  Speaker 1: for you guys has been the MVP of the preseason
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  Speaker 1: and training camp so far, Tank.
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  Speaker 2: Bigsby, maybe the rookie coaches who call running plays now
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  Speaker 2: I would say Greg Junior.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's Wednesday's edition of Jags A. I'm presented
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  Speaker 1: by Jet Home Loans. I'm Kennannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, and
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  Speaker 1: John Oser are with me, and as John so eloquently mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: we're slogging along. We're trying to get through training camp
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  Speaker 1: right now because the regular season is around the corner,
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  Speaker 1: and we're.
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  Speaker 2: All very excited.
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  Speaker 3: Running clock, baby, running block.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be mad about it. We're gonna start off
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  Speaker 1: with big things today as indoors. The team practiced indoors
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and they're gonna practice indoors, or they practice indoors
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  Speaker 1: two days or stay indoors.
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  Speaker 3: As well outside.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so the last two days they were indoors and
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  Speaker 1: they'll be back outside today. But after a week away
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  Speaker 1: in Michigan, they're kind of losing their South Florida.
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  Speaker 3: Will you you know? To me, I think part of
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  Speaker 3: it is. And Doug hasn't talked about it is that
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  Speaker 3: they're beat up, right, get a chance to get your
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  Speaker 3: legs back. You've got one more week and you're gonna
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  Speaker 3: play your starters on Saturday. It's not like the guys
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  Speaker 3: are sitting this week. So it made sense to me
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  Speaker 3: that they would go indoors. Now, yesterday they were in
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  Speaker 3: pads indoors, even though it wasn't all the way to
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  Speaker 3: the ground. It just seems to me like it's a
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  Speaker 3: way to lighten the load a little bit, keep your
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  Speaker 3: guys fresh because you're gonna play them on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought yesterday was to call it a padded practice,
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  Speaker 2: it would be generous. Yeah. I mean, it had pads,
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  Speaker 2: but it was not what people think of as a
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  Speaker 2: padded football practice with like a major hit.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, how many of those were they're in camp?
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  Speaker 2: Not many, right, But if it's so, I thought yesterday
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  Speaker 2: was light my understanding from looking at the schedule in
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  Speaker 2: terms of time, this is.
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  Speaker 3: A long practice. Today.
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  Speaker 2: I guess it'll have some physicality to it, and then
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  Speaker 2: that'll be the last really physical practice that we see
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  Speaker 2: because these are the last couple of practices that will
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  Speaker 2: see except for the twenty minutes.
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  Speaker 1: And I think a little bit of it probably too.
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  Speaker 1: After you go away and you joint practices. Those are
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  Speaker 1: always physical, so coming back maybe and with the injuries
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  Speaker 1: we saw as well against Detroit, to try to keep
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  Speaker 1: everything level and keep everybody healthy going into that last game.
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  Speaker 2: The beggest point you've learned what you're going to learn
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  Speaker 2: by hitting in Like Doug clearly stay with last year.
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  Speaker 2: He likes to get a couple of big hit days in.
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  Speaker 2: He had one this year. He gets Detroit and won
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  Speaker 2: against themselves in this day and age. That's about what
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  Speaker 2: you can do underscore this day and age.
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  Speaker 3: It's the way it is, all right.
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  Speaker 1: Big thing Number two is special teams. Brian, I want
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  Speaker 1: to let you go into that because you talked to
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  Speaker 1: our special teams coach and kind of you know, we've
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  Speaker 1: talked for a while about if you want to make
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  Speaker 1: this roster and you're on the edge, you got to
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  Speaker 1: do something on special teams.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and your buddy Bucky Brooks and I John talk.
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  Speaker 3: He is my pal. I talked extensively during the broadcast
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  Speaker 3: last Saturday about the final spots that are available on
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  Speaker 3: the roster. John, from one to fifty three, how many
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  Speaker 3: do you think you know right now, I'd say forty eightish. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So we're talking about the bottom five spots on the
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  Speaker 3: roster and what determines those spots well, almost exclusively special teams.
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  Speaker 3: So caught up yesterday with he Farwell and he had
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  Speaker 3: this to say about the decision making process when it
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  Speaker 3: comes to special teams.
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  Speaker 4: It's a collaborative effort. I think there's a there is
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  Speaker 4: some spots at the end that kind of maybe I
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  Speaker 4: can persuade, you know, the organization coach Peterson, Trent Balky,
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  Speaker 4: if everything is equal, Hey, this guy's a little tad
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  Speaker 4: better on special teams, he can help us, or he's
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  Speaker 4: a four phase guy we can't let out of the building.
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  Speaker 4: I like to think that I have a little influence
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  Speaker 4: on that.
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  Speaker 3: Now, there's one guy in particular that he pointed out
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  Speaker 3: who has done that, and that's Dewey, who's gonna make
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  Speaker 3: the roster anyway, right, So he's not that final five.
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  Speaker 3: But the wide receivers John that we've talked about, they've
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  Speaker 3: got to prove it on special teams. Jacob Harris in
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  Speaker 3: particular was really good on coverage teams. He's so long
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  Speaker 3: and got that stride he can get down the field.
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  Speaker 3: But whether we're talking about a backup linebacker, safety, a
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  Speaker 3: wide receiver, it's going to be earned on special teams
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  Speaker 3: on Saturday Night. Not exclusively, but a big play out
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  Speaker 3: there on Saturday Night could be the difference between say,
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  Speaker 3: Jacob Harris and Seth Williams.
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  Speaker 2: Kai probably recalls an argument a couple of weeks ago
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  Speaker 2: where I insisted to do he would make the team.
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  Speaker 3: You know, said yeah, But if you recall the hot take,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't say that he was not going to I
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  Speaker 3: said he was going to be pushed, and.
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  Speaker 1: So it was a warm take.
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  Speaker 3: Then well he was, he was. Well, I didn't. I
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  Speaker 3: never said he wasn't going to make the team, so
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't have been ruber Lebron. But what I said
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  Speaker 3: was was that he was going to be pushed, and
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  Speaker 3: he was until Antonio Johnson pulls hamster.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Our big thing, number three is that calm
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  Speaker 1: before the storm we're talking about. You know, maybe there's
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  Speaker 1: only a handful of spots left on this roster, but
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  Speaker 1: how much of those decisions have already been made? In
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  Speaker 1: your opinion, john going into this final preseason game, is
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  Speaker 1: there ill spots up for grabs? If someone goes out
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  Speaker 1: there or they already kind of know.
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  Speaker 2: I'd say again, I think the last four or five spots,
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  Speaker 2: especially at corner, I would say linebacker. I'm curious see
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  Speaker 2: what they do with Shack and Ventrel Miller and Caleb
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  Speaker 2: Johnson out of that group. I do think they pretty
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  Speaker 2: much know. If he asked Doug and Trent to cut
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  Speaker 2: the team, they could probably get it to fifty one.
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  Speaker 2: But I think there's a there's always a couple of spots.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you're not doing it based on that game, but
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  Speaker 2: that they still need to have conversations after that game,
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  Speaker 2: that the game will influence a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: There's only one player I know of in Jaguars history
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  Speaker 3: that made the fifty three based exclusively on his final
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  Speaker 3: preseason action points. There was a running back twenty three
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  Speaker 3: twenty four years ago named Stacey Mack, big kid out
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  Speaker 3: of a Orlando, played a Temple. He had a reverse
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  Speaker 3: field sixty five yard touchdown against Dallas in two thousand
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  Speaker 3: and When he did that, they knew they had their guy,
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  Speaker 3: their backup running back. Other than that, you know, they're
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  Speaker 3: just looking for one thing that might push it between
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  Speaker 3: two players or three players. Just that one thing.
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  Speaker 1: I know, Doug's talked a lot about consistency, so you
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  Speaker 1: really are going to have to show out in Game three,
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  Speaker 1: and it's only going to be about a half of
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  Speaker 1: play as well, because we know the starters are going
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  Speaker 1: the first two quarters at least, that's what Peterson is
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  Speaker 1: planning on doing.
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  Speaker 3: They want to trust you. They want to know that
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  Speaker 3: what they get when they put you on the field
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  Speaker 3: is going to be what they get if they need
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  Speaker 3: to put you on the field at any point during
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  Speaker 3: the season, and it's about building that level of trust.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's probably more jobs lost in the final preseason
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  Speaker 2: game where a guy shows up and or not lost,
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  Speaker 2: but sort of confirmed of Okay, we thought this was
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  Speaker 2: trouble here, probably not going to be able to keep
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  Speaker 2: them on the right. You know, it's more confirmation, I
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  Speaker 2: think than it is guys winning jobs.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Coming up, we're going to talk a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more about the fifty three man roster, who we
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  Speaker 1: think is kind of on the Edgora has showed out
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  Speaker 1: we're in the Hyundai studios and getting down to those
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  Speaker 1: final cut times, so we do a segment called the
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  Speaker 1: fifty three. Either people that have made the case for
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  Speaker 1: themselves or you know, need to have a good training camp,
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  Speaker 1: or are just coming back and they're going to be
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  Speaker 1: making this fifty three ran roster or trying to Brian,
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  Speaker 1: who do you want to highlight today?
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  Speaker 3: I'll go with Jeremiah Ledbetter for the obvious reason, with
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  Speaker 3: Devon Hamilton's injury, they need this guy to play well,
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  Speaker 3: and luckily for them he has. The last two weeks
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  Speaker 3: he's been a force at the line of scrimmage against
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  Speaker 3: the run, and just like Hamilton, he's been a guy
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  Speaker 3: who's gotten good push off the line of scrimmage into
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  Speaker 3: the backfield and broken plays up or as we saw
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  Speaker 3: last week, finished off the sack that calebon Chason could not.
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  Speaker 3: He's an interesting guy. Was drafted by the Lions in
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  Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, has been on the Buccaneers and the Ravens
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  Speaker 3: and the Buccaneers, the Cardinals and the Jaguars practice squads
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  Speaker 3: and active rosters over the last six years. He's a
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  Speaker 3: wide body. You know, when you look at Devon Hamilton, John,
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  Speaker 3: he's really big from the waist down and he's got
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  Speaker 3: a wide hip, bass right, big butt, and which is
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  Speaker 3: what you need in that You need a guy who
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  Speaker 3: can anchor in and he is the guy on that
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  Speaker 3: line that could probably anchor in the best, you know,
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  Speaker 3: beyond Devon or maybe fully fought to Costsias.
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  Speaker 2: What Mike Caldwell said the other day, he can also
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  Speaker 2: play all spots along the line.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, say that is versatility.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's on the roster no matter what would
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  Speaker 2: have happened with Devon, and he's another guy, Brian, we
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  Speaker 2: talked on Monday about guys that Balkey signed as free
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  Speaker 2: agents from other teams who aren't necessarily high profile guys,
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  Speaker 2: but they are good NFL players. So so Kudo's pro
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  Speaker 2: scouting because to me, that's a huge reason why this
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  Speaker 2: team seems so deep.
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  Speaker 3: He's a journeyman who has earned the right to be
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  Speaker 3: on the roster, like John just said, and it just
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  Speaker 3: so happens they need him also.
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  Speaker 2: And a segue guy. You know, a segue in radio
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  Speaker 2: is one of those things where you bring I mean
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  Speaker 2: Dernis Johnson, who's exactly the same kind of free agent,
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  Speaker 2: is my fifty three. I don't know that he is
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  Speaker 2: a lock to make the team. I don't think he
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  Speaker 2: thinks he's a lock to make the team. I think
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  Speaker 2: he's earned it. He's he's going to be right on
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  Speaker 2: the bubble. It may come down to whether they keep
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  Speaker 2: four running backs, which may means numbers at other spots.
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  Speaker 2: My gut is that he will be on the team.
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  Speaker 3: He looked awfully good.
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  Speaker 2: The other night. He's a veteran for a running back.
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  Speaker 2: What you want to see in the preseason is do
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  Speaker 2: they still move and make people miss like they did
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  Speaker 2: when they were rookies.
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  Speaker 3: Looks to me like he does. You know. The interesting
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  Speaker 3: thing is they trust Michael Hasty. You know, he gave
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  Speaker 3: him the sixty yard touchdown in Indy last year and
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  Speaker 3: the thirty yard touchdown against the Ravens that gave the
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars an early lead in two important games. So they
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  Speaker 3: trust him. But I think Johnson is a more versatile
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  Speaker 3: player than Hasty. I think he's a better receiver out
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  Speaker 3: of the backfield. I think he's a guy who could
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  Speaker 3: pick up the blitz schemes. I think he's aware. I
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  Speaker 3: kind of like him as the three.
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  Speaker 2: Well, think about what he gives you in the backfield
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  Speaker 2: if you're Doug and Trent last year. With respect to Hasty,
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  Speaker 2: who I think is a very important player on this team,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that you feel great if he is
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  Speaker 2: your lead back going into a three game stretch with
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  Speaker 2: Ernest Johnson and Tank Bigsby, I think they feel like
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  Speaker 2: they have three guys who they're okay.
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  Speaker 3: If with that, they're okay.
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  Speaker 2: If they have to go with those guys as your
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  Speaker 2: main back, that's significantly more depth than I think they
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  Speaker 2: had a running back last year.
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  Speaker 3: You know, the roster moves, how they structure it is
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  Speaker 3: so heavily impacted by the injury situation on the offensive
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  Speaker 3: and defensive line. So a guy like this or Hasty,
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  Speaker 3: you know, or a fourth tight end like Garrett Prince
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  Speaker 3: you know, could fall into it. Can we get into
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  Speaker 3: the practice squad because of the needs at those positions.
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  Speaker 3: But Hasty and Johnson both are worthy of a roster spot. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Johnson's going to be in the NFL. Yeah, and I
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  Speaker 3: think he'll be here.
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  Speaker 2: And again another example of guys who can play in
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  Speaker 2: this league anyway.
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  Speaker 1: And we hammered on this a bunch, but there are
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  Speaker 1: going to be a lot of people that are cut
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  Speaker 1: next week that end up on a different roster, especially
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  Speaker 1: in those skill positions.
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  Speaker 3: It's been that wait a long time around here.
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  Speaker 1: I know it's a nice feeling, right. I want to
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  Speaker 1: highlight Ben Bartch, not necessarily that he wouldn't have made
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  Speaker 1: the roster, but we're seeing in practice for the first
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  Speaker 1: time because he's been on the pup list after that
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  Speaker 1: knee injury he suffered last year, and after all of
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  Speaker 1: those offensive line injuries and issues we saw against Detroit.
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  Speaker 1: He's coming back at the absolute perfect time. Obviously, everybody
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  Speaker 1: on the offensive line is super versatile, can play multiple positions,
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  Speaker 1: but you have to imagine that Ben Barch's coming back
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  Speaker 1: at this point is like a breath of fresh air
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  Speaker 1: for Rauser, who's been dealing with all these unknowns with
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  Speaker 1: all of the injuries and then of course Cam's suspension
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 3: Start they think about it like this. Last week you
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  Speaker 3: had to have Walker Little play at left guard because
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  Speaker 3: they weren't going to put BArch into the game in
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  Speaker 3: Detroit this week. If Anton Harrison's shoulder is bothering him
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  Speaker 3: and you want to give him more time to get
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  Speaker 3: ready for the regular season, you can move Little to
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  Speaker 3: the right side. Because BArch is back and Cam Robinson
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  Speaker 3: is still here, so it's critical that you've got him
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  Speaker 3: for this game and maybe even Opening Day to give
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  Speaker 3: you some sort of depth and versatility, which is the
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  Speaker 3: thing we've talked about with this offensive line group.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as much as you know, we're sort of gnashing
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  Speaker 2: teeth on Monday about the depth and depth is still
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  Speaker 2: a worry. Getting BArch back means you've got a decent
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  Speaker 2: chance to have a very legitimate NFL starting line Week
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  Speaker 2: one with little BArch, Fortner, Sheriff and Harrison. That's not
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  Speaker 2: very far from what you would want your ideal starting
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  Speaker 2: line to be around here. So depth a little bit
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  Speaker 2: of an issue, particularly with Hodges being hurt and Wells,
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  Speaker 2: but I think they feel okay with their depth other
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  Speaker 2: than those guys, and they certainly feel good about that
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  Speaker 2: five start.
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  Speaker 1: You have to feel good about that position group, even
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  Speaker 1: with what they have going on. So stay with us.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to jag zam and the Hundai Studios. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit about what's going on around
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: the league because we're getting ready to start the season,
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: so we got to keep track of everything. Jonathan Taylor,
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: all that drama in Indianapolis. They finally decided to let
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: him seek a trade. John to want to touch base
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  Speaker 1: with you. I'm sure you're not surprised by all that's
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: gone down, but it's gotten to this point.
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  Speaker 2: I guess I'm surprised. I'm always amazed these days when teams.
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  Speaker 2: I was amazed three or four years ago when this
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: team allowed Jalen Rams that he sort of forced his
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: way out. I guess I'm so old school Brian that
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: I think if you've got a great player and he
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to play there, you tell him, Okay, you're
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: gonna sit establish a precedent. GMS evidently don't believe in that,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm sure there's some reason they don't. But for
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  Speaker 2: the Colts, it's certainly if he seeks a trade.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to interpret.
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  Speaker 2: That franchise as anything right now. But in major rebuild,
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  Speaker 2: even if he doesn't seek a trade, he's a great back.
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  Speaker 2: I understand his side of it, trying to get whatever
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  Speaker 2: contract he can get at this age. But it's a mess,
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  Speaker 2: and I guess they're trying to clean up eever they can.
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  Speaker 2: And that feels like Major League hitting the reset.
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  Speaker 3: But you remember when it seemed like the Colts were
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: living a charmed life. They went from Peyton Manning right
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  Speaker 3: to Andrew Luck. They just had it all going and
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  Speaker 3: you thought, you know, when's luck going to fall for
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  Speaker 3: this team? Well now, I mean they seem to be
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: a complete disaster. I know the owner is unpredictable. Why
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  Speaker 3: did he say we're not going to trade him if
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  Speaker 3: two weeks later he says, all right, go ahead and
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  Speaker 3: seek a trade. I mean that's the part. Who's in charge.
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  Speaker 3: Is it Chris Ballard? Is he making the decisions and
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: leading the football strategy or is it Jim Mersay? And
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: if it's Jim Mersay, they're not anywhere close to being
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  Speaker 3: out of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can spend a long time trying to figure
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: out Jim Mersey's thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure we have enough show for that man.
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  Speaker 3: And by the way, Anthony Richardson, who they're putting into
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: the starting lineup right away, even though nobody thinks that
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: he's ready to be an NFL quarterback this year, that
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: would be his best friend. I mean, how much more
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: effective is that young quarterback with that superstar back?
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: And you're really I'm questionable. I know they different philosophies
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: about playing rookies quarterbacks right out of the gate, but
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: the way it's set up in Indie right now, I'm
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: curious how that's actually going to play out. Actually, our
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: second thing we're going to talk about around the league,
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: the Colts and Eagles gotten into a little bit of
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: a brawl yesterday at their joint practice, and we saw
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: some other teams calling off their second week of joint
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: practices because of this very thing. It's getting a little
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: too competitive right at the end where you're kind of
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: feeling that physicality where we saw the Lions and Jags
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: get a little chippy, but nothing bad at all, and
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I think that's where you want to keep it. But
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: some other teams are struggling with that. John, how do
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: you keep things light the last week before.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: The I don't know. I've always considered training camp fights
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: like remember when you were kid, Brian hit sniffle fights.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Neither one wanted to fight, you know, that's sort of
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: what it feels like. You know, you're hitting each other
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: with helmets on. I get the boys that we boys thing.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Everybody's trying to man up or whatever that is. You know.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: I think if you've got two teams, the Lions and
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Jags kept things moderately under control. I thought the Jags
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: handled themselves well in that situation, trying to get good
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: workout of it. Of the Lions seemed like they stepped
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: over the line a couple of times. It wasn't tragic.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: I think you've got to get the coaches where they
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: have the same philosophy on it.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: I don't really think it's a big deal of teams
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: don't do this, But I think maybe in the future
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: teams will try to find like minded approaches, maybe a
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: little better than they have this year.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Oh you know, I thought last week the Lions and
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: the Jaguars represented the coaches pretty well, right. I mean,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Doug is reserved and very intellectual in his approach to
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: it right. You never see him get too high or
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: too low. And he told us in the production meeting
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: that he was really impressed with the way that his
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: team handled the Lions' aggressiveness. The Lions coach Dan Campbell
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: was a scrapper as a player, right, and the guy
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: whould to fight his way into the NFL and stay
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: by all means. The players love playing for him and
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: they've adopted some of his personality. Jack Campbell, the middle
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: linebacker Kamiski, the defense of Lyneman who was scrappy during
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: the game. I get it. Doug was really and it
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: sounds self serving on a Jaguar show, he was really
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: glad that his team just kind of walked away from
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: that and let it diffuse. I guess the Jets threw
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: the Buccaneers out of don't do practice, So maybe you
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: just do a one day, right, I mean, maybe maybe
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: day two is too much. Maybe if you're going to travel,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: you have one day and then a day with your
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: own practice at the local high school or something like that.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: They say they get good work out of it and
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: they want to do it. Or maybe you just choose
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: your team that you're going to go work with very carefully, Yes,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: a little.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: More particular about who you choose. Perhaps our final thing
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: from around the league, Aaron Rodgers and State Farm are
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: no longer together, so we're gonna have to get a
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: new celebration out of that. And then also in sponsorship deals,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Will Levis, the quarterback for the Titans, or at one
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: point will be the quarterback for the Titans, has a
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: lifetime deal with Hellman's Mayonnaise after he put mayonnaise in
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: his coffee for those tiktoks. So I wanted to ask you, guys,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: if you could have a sponsorship deal, who would you
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: want it to be with, Because I would not pick.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: Man a lot of times.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Supply of mayonnaise would would mean about three jars for me.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Probably it would.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Be none for me. I hate it.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I'll pass. Go ahead, Brian, I'll come back to it.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: In the line of food, is that anything you want
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to do, like, what would you never get sick of having?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: I would do Dunkin Donuts because I want caffeine and
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: donuts at all times, so I would never get sick
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I can appreciate that. Just from local flavor from last week,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I really like Buddy's pizza that pizza place you went to,
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: if you'd send if they'd send me one from Detroit
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: every week, just one, right, because I'd have to share
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: it so I wouldn't blow up like a balloon. But
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: it was delicious.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Does Mercedes Benz give I'll go Bell's Two Harded Brewery
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: my lifetime sponsorship. They're they're a Michigan brewery and uh,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: all right, they're my They're kind of my I p a.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Were they before last week or did last week cement
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: it for you? No, they've been for a long time.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, A man, unfortunately probably don't listen to this show,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: so there'll be no deal coming.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll just send that there way, all right, stay
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: with us. We'll talk a little bit about what we've
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: got coming up tomorrow and the rest of the week.
• 20:17
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• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Zipchair is furniture for fans. The practice is back outside
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: today and it's later in the afternoon, right in the sun,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: so they're getting ready for them weather a little bit,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: and then they're going to face off against the Dolphins
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: on Saturday, this final preseason game we've heard so far,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: we're going to hear see the starters, hopefully the entire
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: first half, depending what we see from the Dolphins, how
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: much of their starters we see. What are you looking
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: forward to in that game? Is it just getting off
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: to a fast start.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to seeing how they handle Wattle and Hill.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: We didn't see that combination last year, and that is legit,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: world class speed. What a great tune up for Tyson
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Campbell and Darius Williams and anyone else that the Warsgregg Junior,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: whoever they put out there against that kind of ability.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you'd like to see some offensive efficiency
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: the first team offense. I feel confidence this offense is
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: going to be really, really good. I think as an offense,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: they would love to see you've got what fifteen days
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: until the opener. From that, it's always good to get
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: a couple of touchdowns. I feel like you've moved efficiently
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: for this team. I think that would be a great
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: tone setter going into Week one.
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: As a broadcaster, the final preseason game always felt like
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: a big lift, right. It felt like it was laborious
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: because there were so many young guys that were gonna play.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: This is exciting to me because the final preseason game
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: we get so much of a look at what they're
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: going to be. That'll make it fun and I think
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: there'll be a lot of people watching, listening, and in
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: the stadium because a it's the only home preseason game
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: and be they're playing starters.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: In the final an actual peak at what we're gonna
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: see in the regular season. Tomorrow will do a full
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: deep dive into Miami and what they're going to be
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: facing off against in that game. But until then, we'll
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: see you on Thursday morning.