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Are the Vikings frauds? NFL Week 8 reactions! · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to another episode, episode number
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  Speaker 1: seventy three of the so called sports analysts. Josh, how
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  Speaker 1: you doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm doing good man. It feels nice. It just feels
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  Speaker 2: nice to be part of a winning organization. Some people
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  Speaker 2: aren't as fortunate as I am, but it's all right.
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  Speaker 2: You know, chiefs are seven and oh on the road
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  Speaker 2: to twenty and oh twenty eight straight games underneath twenty
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  Speaker 2: five points. We'll get into it later, but it was
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  Speaker 2: a good week of football for me at least. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know about some people, but for me it was good.
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  Speaker 1: But I wonder who he's talking about exactly right here,
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, like how you said, twenty eight
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  Speaker 1: straight games under twenty five twenty eight straight years of
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  Speaker 1: misery kind of the same thing. But before we start,
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  Speaker 1: we get in bed at it. But let's start with
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  Speaker 1: this Monday night football game, Pittsburgh Stealers versus New York Giants.
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  Speaker 1: The Steelers they won twenty six to eighteen. Giants had
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  Speaker 1: a couple of chances to tie the game go into overtime,
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  Speaker 1: but defense stepped up. Would you take away from this one?
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  Speaker 2: I just think Russell Wilson's playing really good football right now.
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  Speaker 2: I was a little I was a little mad that
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  Speaker 2: they've been just in fields because I don't think he
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  Speaker 2: was playing necessarily bad and he wasn't, but right now,
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  Speaker 2: I just think that the element of being able to
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  Speaker 2: push the ball down the field from Russell Wilson has
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  Speaker 2: really opened up the Steelers team quite a bit, especially
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  Speaker 2: to George Pickens and Von Jefferson. These guys are getting
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  Speaker 2: hit deep down the field there. It's like it's not
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  Speaker 2: really intermediate throws, it's it's big. It's big plays happening
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  Speaker 2: from this team, especially that one down the sideline with
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  Speaker 2: George Pickens where he kind of rus supposed to put
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  Speaker 2: it in the right place over to defenders and George
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  Speaker 2: Pickens caught it in the bread basket. And now it's
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  Speaker 2: just plays like that or what's separating the Steelers right now.
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  Speaker 2: And they're on top of that that AFC North right
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  Speaker 2: now by pretty comfortably right now, and I don't see
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  Speaker 2: another team in that division besides maybe besides the Ravens
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  Speaker 2: who can really compete with them. So they're they're playing
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  Speaker 2: very great football right now, especially Naujie Harris. I think
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  Speaker 2: Naji Harris, especially for me, has gotten a lot of
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  Speaker 2: a lot of hate only because of his inconsistencies, and
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  Speaker 2: so far over the last couple of weeks he's really
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  Speaker 2: stepped up in a big way. And I think it's
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  Speaker 2: part of the reason why the Steelers offenses is real
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  Speaker 2: clicking at this moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And one thing that you mentioned, even with justin fields,
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  Speaker 1: the biggest reason why the Steelers offense wasn't clicking was
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  Speaker 1: because of the run game. And that's exactly what started
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  Speaker 1: clicking right here. Ever since Russell Wilson, he pretty much
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  Speaker 1: started for this football team. But like you were saying,
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  Speaker 1: with the threat of there being a deep ball down
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  Speaker 1: the field to George Pickens a Van Jefferson, like you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: then then that's what makes it scary. That's why they
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  Speaker 1: can't put eight in the box. But I was actually
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  Speaker 1: trying to pull up the Stellers schedule right now. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why it's taken a little bit. All right,
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  Speaker 1: there it goes. So they have a bye week next week,
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  Speaker 1: then they have the Commanders, which should be a good game.
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  Speaker 1: Then they have the Ravens, they have the Browns, the
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  Speaker 1: Bengals Browns, then they have the Eagles, Ravens, Chiefs, and Bengals.
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  Speaker 1: So pretty much the rest of it pretty much finishes
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  Speaker 1: off as a division games pretty much because the Philly
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  Speaker 1: Chiefs and Commanders those are the rest three. It's barely
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  Speaker 1: gonna be Week nine. So for them to win these games,
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  Speaker 1: the outer conference games or teams that are not in
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  Speaker 1: the division, it's big because you need all the wins
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  Speaker 1: that you can get. So and realistically, against the Colts
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  Speaker 1: and the Cowboys, they could have had those games won
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  Speaker 1: with justin fields. So you could easily be looking at
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  Speaker 1: a team that's eight to zero, whether we like it
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  Speaker 1: or not. So and from this Giant side right here,
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm gonna just repeat the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't say it much last week because I talked
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  Speaker 1: about it the week before, but it's time to bring
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  Speaker 1: it up again. There's all the pieces there for the
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  Speaker 1: New York Giants except Daniel Jones. And I was talking
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  Speaker 1: to this with Dallas right before you got there. Josh,
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  Speaker 1: I think they need Cam Mood or Shader Sanders. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like those are the two quarterbacks that are pro
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  Speaker 1: ready off rip, and this Giants team could be a
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  Speaker 1: lot different because you have them league neighbors. You have
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  Speaker 1: Onedol Robinson, Tyrone Tracy who looks like a merging young star.
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  Speaker 1: The defense is there too, So what do you think
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  Speaker 1: about that? No?
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  Speaker 2: I agree, I think the biggest surprise is Tyrone Tracy Junior.
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  Speaker 2: I think I don't think they have a singletary you
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  Speaker 2: getting that job back. With the way Tyrone Tracy is
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  Speaker 2: playing right now, especially over the last four weeks, the
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  Speaker 2: way the way he's been dominating the run game, especially
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  Speaker 2: yesterday twenty k one hundred and forty five yards in
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  Speaker 2: a touchdown. They found a good running back, a good
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  Speaker 2: guy that they can put back there for the next
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  Speaker 2: four years and let it ride barring injury. I mean
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  Speaker 2: he walked. I think he got a concussion in yesterday's game,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know if he's gonna play in this
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  Speaker 2: next week. But when he does come back, it's his
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  Speaker 2: backfield to handle. And Elik Neighbors I think had one
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  Speaker 2: of his rougher games of the year so in this one,
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  Speaker 2: but he still had seven receptions for seventy one yards.
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  Speaker 2: He had a drop, he had a couple drops, and
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  Speaker 2: then he had that one touchdown that got called back
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  Speaker 2: because he didn't get bold day. Yeah, so it's just
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  Speaker 2: a little rough one for him today, and if he
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  Speaker 2: makes some of those catches, this game probably looks a
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  Speaker 2: whole lot different. So the Giants are gonna have. They
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  Speaker 2: had a good day, but not a great day. And
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  Speaker 2: I just think it falls on the shoulders of Daniel
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  Speaker 2: Jones being inconsistent, especially in that throw he made at
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  Speaker 2: the end when it was a final drive to hopefully
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  Speaker 2: hopefully tie the game, and uh, it just that throw
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  Speaker 2: he just threw its double coverage and it got got
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  Speaker 2: tipped and intercepted. And you can't make those type of
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  Speaker 2: mistakes as the starting quarterback, especially how you're getting paid.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know, they can't really go anywhere else
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  Speaker 2: right now. I get we we love Tommy DeVito on
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  Speaker 2: this podcast, but he's not the answer either. It's just
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  Speaker 2: it's just gonna be the same type of same type
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  Speaker 2: of vibe. And Brian Dable has I and that the
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  Speaker 2: little two point conversion play college is just go for
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  Speaker 2: auld play man, like, you know, you don't have to
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  Speaker 2: do all this extra stuff. That kind of set them
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  Speaker 2: back a little bit too, because it kind of put
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  Speaker 2: them a little bit more backwards because they had to
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  Speaker 2: play harder for to even get it. They had to
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  Speaker 2: get another two point conversion after that to even make
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  Speaker 2: it serious. If you just took the extra point, you
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  Speaker 2: would have been up by seven or he would have
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  Speaker 2: been down by seven. So there's a little bit of
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  Speaker 2: inconsistencies on the Giant side that kind of hold them back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. And now that you're mentioned that, actually,
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  Speaker 1: if they just run a normal two point conversion and
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  Speaker 1: they had that fumble, so it would be twenty three
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  Speaker 1: to twenty six. Instead of you having to get eight
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  Speaker 1: points drive eighty yards, you have to drive forty fifty
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  Speaker 1: yards down the field to tie the game. And that's
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  Speaker 1: a big difference in the game right there. But Okay,
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  Speaker 1: one more question, where do you view this Pittsburgh Steelers
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  Speaker 1: silling as far as how far they could actually go
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  Speaker 1: in the playoffs?
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  Speaker 2: Here As of right now, the only teams that I
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  Speaker 2: think that can compete with the Chiefs are the Ravens
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  Speaker 2: and Stealers. I just think because they just match up
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  Speaker 2: very well against them. I just think that the Stellers
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  Speaker 2: may have a rough time just offensively. I mean, George
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  Speaker 2: Pickens is going to be great, but I just don't
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  Speaker 2: see anyone else kind of the run game is I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. The Chiefs defense is dominating right now, so
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  Speaker 2: it's just like, I can't really save an offense is
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  Speaker 2: going to do great against them. And no matter what
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  Speaker 2: you line up against the Chiefs, it just seems like
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  Speaker 2: they know how to just put up points when they
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  Speaker 2: need to. It's not they're not going to do in
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  Speaker 2: the prettiest way, but they're gonna do it when they
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  Speaker 2: need to. And I don't know the Ravens. After last
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  Speaker 2: the Ravens, it's between those two teams that I think
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  Speaker 2: are going to compete the most to maybe knock off
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  Speaker 2: the Chiefs right as of right.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, okay, yeah, no for sure, but all right,
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  Speaker 1: let's go and move on to the Sunday night football game.
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  Speaker 2: This league go ahead. The league could changed drastically next
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  Speaker 2: week if we wanted to. We never know saw we
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  Speaker 2: saw the Eagles and Jaguars fall off last year.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's that's very true. That's very true. It
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  Speaker 1: still is very early in the season. But even though
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  Speaker 1: it's still early in the season, both of these teams,
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  Speaker 1: right before this game, they were struggling Niners Cowboys. Both
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  Speaker 1: these teams both needed to win, and the Niners they
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  Speaker 1: won this one thirty to twenty four. A Lake comeback
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  Speaker 1: from the Cowboys didn't work out. Niners are now four
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  Speaker 1: and four going to the by Cowboys are three and four. Now,
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  Speaker 1: so what do you take away from this one? How?
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  Speaker 2: What did you take Let's start with you. What did
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  Speaker 2: you take away from this one?
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  Speaker 1: I took away I need to take away my rights
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  Speaker 1: for being a Cowboys fan. No, but okay, okay, let's
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  Speaker 1: let's let's start potting for real. Let's start potting for real.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start off first and foremost with this.
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  Speaker 1: I've defended Dak throughout these first seven eight weeks of
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  Speaker 1: football or No. Seven, yeah seven, because this was week eight.
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  Speaker 1: Dak is not playing good football right now. He's not
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  Speaker 1: doing a good job playing quarterback right now. But I'll
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  Speaker 1: say this, as far as with a subpar run game,
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  Speaker 1: only one receiver in CD Lamb and the scheme is
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  Speaker 1: not there, I find it hard for Dak Prescott to
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  Speaker 1: play great football whenever. This scheme is not helping him
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  Speaker 1: out at all. I don't care what anybody says at
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  Speaker 1: this point. You put Patrick Mahomes with this, you put
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  Speaker 1: them Jackson with this, you put Joe Burrow Josh Allen
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  Speaker 1: with this. Maybe they're a little bit better than Dak Prescott,
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  Speaker 1: maybe they don't turn over the ball, but they're not
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  Speaker 1: they're not winning these games. They're not playing amazing football.
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  Speaker 1: Because when you have no threat to run the ball
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  Speaker 1: you can on ceede Lamb, then you're not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: able to do anything. You shut down this offense. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: just in general, Josh, if you tell just any team
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  Speaker 1: team's defense, Okay, you don't have to worry about the
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  Speaker 1: run game. You double this guy and you let the
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  Speaker 1: quarterback throw the ball forty times. That's a recipe for
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  Speaker 1: success for the defense right away. So again, Dak Prescott,
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  Speaker 1: he is not playing good football. This isn't an excuse
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  Speaker 1: for Dak Prescott, but as far as all the pieces
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  Speaker 1: around him, it's definitely not helping. And I honestly think
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  Speaker 1: with this defense, they actually did a very good job
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  Speaker 1: the first two and a half quarters. It's just they
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  Speaker 1: were on the field that third and fourth quarter. So
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  Speaker 1: what do you expect for them to do at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day. This team is banged up, Half
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  Speaker 1: of the team is on ir So what do you
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  Speaker 1: expect this defense to really do to hold up against
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  Speaker 1: the Niners team who needed to win just as bad.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll say this, Rock Purdy and the Niners offense,
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  Speaker 1: it looks like they're slowly starting to get on track
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  Speaker 1: the run game and actually did look good here. Brock Purty.
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  Speaker 1: He did use his legs in this one, which we
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  Speaker 1: never really see. So George Kittle, Deebo, Samuel, Ricky Piersaw.
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  Speaker 1: Ricky Piersaw he popped out in this game. He had
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  Speaker 1: a couple big plays in this one, especially the run
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  Speaker 1: that he had. I think it was a forty yard
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  Speaker 1: run something like that. But I saw something before the game.
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  Speaker 1: So the Niners the past three years, they've started off
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  Speaker 1: around three and four and four and four around that,
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  Speaker 1: and then they go on to have this massive stretch
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  Speaker 1: down the road. So I know that we were acting
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  Speaker 1: like the sky was falling with the Niners, but these
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  Speaker 1: past two three years, it's exactly what's happened. So, and
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  Speaker 1: they're getting Christian McCaffrey back within or not not this week,
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  Speaker 1: but the following week. So I think the Niners are
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  Speaker 1: about to go on a run. Yeah, I think the
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  Speaker 1: Niners are about to go on a run. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's my take, go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Niners offense was getting back on track
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  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. I mean last week they
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  Speaker 2: just ran it too. The best defense in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: and they kind of got shut down. But the week
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  Speaker 2: before that they did take it to the Seattle Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: quite well. They put up a bunch of points. They
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  Speaker 2: were able to score at will really in that game. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's just I'm still not afraid of the fort nine
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  Speaker 2: ers of like if I'm the Detroit Lions, if I'm
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  Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings, even if I'm like the Green Bay Packers,
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  Speaker 2: like I create that those are the three contenders and
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  Speaker 2: they're all in the same division.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't even think about that yet.
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  Speaker 2: If I'm those three teams, I don't fear the San
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  Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine ers, if that makes sense. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you knew it the same way that I do.
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  Speaker 2: But I just think the defense can be had for
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  Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers. I think they they're
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  Speaker 2: not as consistent as it used to be outside of
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  Speaker 2: Fred Warner. But also Dre Greenlaw will come back, so
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  Speaker 2: that may be a big boost to this defense that
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  Speaker 2: that they do need at the moment. But I just
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  Speaker 2: feel like those type of teams are looking at the
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  Speaker 2: Niners as like, oh okay, like they're still here, and
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  Speaker 2: then we haven't seen the Rams at full strength yet
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  Speaker 2: I don't know when the forty nine ers play them.
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  Speaker 1: And they did, we'll see earlier in the season too, remember.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so so they did, and then we'll see. So
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  Speaker 2: I think hold the brakes a little bit before we
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  Speaker 2: make the decision if the Niners are actually going to
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  Speaker 2: go on a run, because there's still teams that hold
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  Speaker 2: that conference right now that I think have a better
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  Speaker 2: chance to win the Super Bowl, and even within their
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  Speaker 2: own division, who at full health is I think may
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  Speaker 2: be better at this point. But as far as the
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  Speaker 2: Cowboys Ceedee Lamb in his some of his moments he
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  Speaker 2: looks like he doesn't want to play, but in this
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  Speaker 2: one he was looked like the only one that wanted
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  Speaker 2: to play in this In this game, he he he
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  Speaker 2: was fighting for every yard that he could get. He
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  Speaker 2: came away with He had a big game. Helped me
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  Speaker 2: out in fantasy quite a bit. Yeah, but I just
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  Speaker 2: like this Cowboys game, This Cowboys team. The effort isn't
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  Speaker 2: there that like all the way around, from start top
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  Speaker 2: to bottom. It doesn't matter. I just feel like the
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  Speaker 2: camaraderie that they usually have. Over the last couple of
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  Speaker 2: seasons where they were twelve and five very consistently. It's
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  Speaker 2: just not there at this moment. This isn't the same vibe,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't the same old Cowboys team that you expect
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  Speaker 2: to win every regular season game. It's just it's just
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  Speaker 2: not giving that type of that type of energy right now.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's a Mike McCarthy problem
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  Speaker 2: with Jerry Jones problem. I don't think it's a Dak
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  Speaker 2: Prescott problem. But it has to come down to one
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  Speaker 2: of those two guys. It's there, Mike McCarthy or Jerry
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  Speaker 2: Jones and someone has to give or take.
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  Speaker 1: Can I answer the question, it's all of the above.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's the answer to the question. No. But okay,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like this as far as that because last
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  Speaker 1: year he wasn't forcing these throws last year. But I
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  Speaker 1: feel like since it's just ceedee lamb, he's forcing the
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  Speaker 1: ball in the tight windows and that's what's causing him
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  Speaker 1: to get the picks. And I saw something Josh. It
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  Speaker 1: says the Cowboys wide receivers they have the lowest separation
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  Speaker 1: rate in the NFL. They have the lowest separation rate.
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  Speaker 1: So Dak's having to throw the ball in tight situations.
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  Speaker 1: But let me read you the Niners schedule, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: just kind of do just like a quick W or
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  Speaker 1: L or I'll let you decide right here. Okay, So
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  Speaker 1: Niners versus Bucks off the.
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  Speaker 2: By oh w. Evans and Chris Godwin are out.
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  Speaker 1: Seattle versus Sam Fran and Sam.
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  Speaker 2: Fran I think they split. I think it's l okay.
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  Speaker 1: So they're five or keep their record. They're five and
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  Speaker 1: five right now. Niners versus Packers in Green Bay. We
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  Speaker 1: don't know about Jordan Love. We'll talk about that a
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  Speaker 1: little bit later.
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  Speaker 2: But if Jordan Love plays l if he doesn't.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: W okay, Niners versus Bills, L Bears versus Niners ooh w.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Rams versus Niners and Sam Fran l oh so you
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: think Rams take both games? M hm oh, Niners versus Dolphins.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: W wait m m.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: It's in December. It is in Miami. Okay, that's all
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: I'm here. Okay. Then Lions versus Niners L Then Niners
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: versus Cardinals W okay, and then that's the end of
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: their schedule right there. That's all right to schedule.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: That's wait and eightee yeah they have nine and by
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: so yeah, yeah, nine and eight yeah, yeah, just about.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: All right, Well we'll see again. We don't know what's
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: gonna happen down the road, but who knows. But all right,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: let's go ahead and talk about your team right here.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: The it seems like the inevitable the thanals of the NFL.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs, they played up against the Las
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. Damn it, I do that every week, the
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders and the Chiefs. They win twenty seven
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: to twenty, featuring a couple of goal line stops by
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: the defense. Much still to do on this game, Chiefs
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: are now seven or no? So what did you take
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: away from this one? Hey?
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: The the the chief Fins just keeps going giving. I
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: just think I'll just say that Drew Tranco Leo Chanel
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: showed up when they when it mattered most, especially both them.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: They combuy for two sacks combined for ten tackles. They
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: came up with.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: They were really the catalyst guy.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, high motor.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: One last one.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Out type you want your daughter to take home.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Sneaky, athletic, scrappy coaches son, Jim Ratt, gritty, What can
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I say? I cut football stude of the game. All right,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: Those I think those two guys were part of the
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: main reason why we're able to have those goal line
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: stands and really hold the Raiders back from getting any
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: type of type of type of really movement in this game.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: I get at the beginning they were they were kind
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: of looking a little bit a little good, but hey,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs were figuring it out, I think, and offensively
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: we're getting better. I will say this, I think that
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I think Patrick Mahomes is playing a lot better football.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: I think the interceptions are not telling the story of
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: what's actually going on on the field. And Minium talked
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: about it, where like he's actually like playing really great football,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Like it's like if you watch the game, like he's
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: making the right decisions. All these interceptions, like this one
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: was a tip ball again that was intercepted. It wasn't
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: like he threw a terrible ball and it just like
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: ended up getting picked off and return. No, like it
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: just wasn't. It just got tipped Lennon and arms to
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: the defender and that it just happens that way, and
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs defense stepped up. But in this one, he's
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: spreading the ball out a lot, and I think it's
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: no surprise that he has one of his better games
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: when the best duo in all sports has one of
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: their better games, and that's Travis Kelsey. Travis Kelsey ten receptions,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: ninety yards in a touchdown. He can do this at
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: any moment. I think he's just he's just at an
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: age where he can't do it in game in and
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: game out anymore. But when he needs to, he'll step
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: up in a big way. And I think he needed
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: to in this game for us to win it, and
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: he did. And I think the acquisition of de Hop
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: we saw him. He didn't play really at all in
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: this one. He played maybe ten snaps in this game
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: important like third down situations and and goal line situation.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: He was used as much as a decoy at the
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: goal line. So it's not so. I think once he
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: gets integrated and he's able to find do his own
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: work and one on one coverage, I think this offense
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: is going to go to a whole other level. And
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: so the Chiefs, I think they can get even better
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: than they are right now.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say this, I think this is Mahomes'
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: best game since Week one, and not necessarily that he's
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: had bad games but this is his best game, Like
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: you were saying, I feel like he just that's one
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: thing I wanted to see from Mahomes. Like I talked
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: about last week, the reason why Luke he was going
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to war on TikTok. Shout out to Luke by the way,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: but just Mahomes, it's just been not necessarily sloppy football,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: but there's just been a throw here there where it's like, eh,
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: it's like it's like that's not used to Mahomes. In
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: this game, it looked like the patch Mahomes that we're
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: used to seeing right here, and they weren't able to
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: run the football at all. Pretty much the Raiders defense
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: they said, all right, Pat Mahomes, you're gonna have to
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: throw the ball here, and he did exactly that. And
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I just think I wrote this down another viable wide
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: receiver leads to Kelsey production. It's true because whenever there's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: a Rashid Rice, whenever d hops there, even for his
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: first game, Travis Kelsey pops off right away. So, like
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: you were saying, that's gonna be the biggest thing with
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: d Hop him being a safety blanket right there. Now,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: you can't you can't bracket Kelsey right now because de
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: hop he could win those one on ones. And whenever
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco he does get back, it's going to add
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: another element to this offense. What is he coming back
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: week ten?
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And then Hollywood supposed to be back by the time
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: playoffs starts. Som hmm. Yeah, they'll be at full strength
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: when it matters the most.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, I thought he wasn't going to come back
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the entire season. Hollywood.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: No, he's just out the regular season.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay, I see, I see. Well, y'all
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: pretty much almost clenched up the playoffs. I'm pretty sure
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: y'all are is it two? If y'all win two more games,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: you already clinch a playoff Berth, I think, yeah, it's ridiculous. Yeah, no,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: it's because the closest team right now is the Broncos.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: And they're five they're five and now. They're not five
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: and two, they're four and three. They're four and three.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: That's the Broncos record. So yeah, if y'all win two
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: more because I know y'all have the Broncos soon, y'all,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: y'all almost wrap up the division that quick. That's that's ridiculous. No,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say this, as far as with the
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Raiders side, Gardner Minshew didn't have a bad game, but
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I feel like there's just a ceiling. There's just a
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: ceiling here with this team. And as far as running
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the ball, they did that or it was completely non existent.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: But the chief defense also that they're the best defense
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: in the NFL by far, and I think it's the
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Chiefs defense on a separate tier. And then maybe you
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: could argue who have been some of the better defenses
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: this year. The Steelers, maybe the Bills, maybe the Commanders
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: will talk about that in a second, but but yeah, no,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: maybe the Texans. But you know, the Chiefs are on
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: a whole different level. Again, twenty eight straight games under
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: twenty five points. That's something that's dynastic level when there's
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: just no stopping this team, honestly. And they just added
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Josh Uce, a defensive end from the Patriots who I
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: think he's a nice piece. And then I.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: Heard they're saying we're not done adding another player. Really yeah,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I think so. I think they're going to go for
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: another receiver.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: And like you were saying, you have Charles Leman who
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: coming back too. So yeah, so that's scary right there.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Well, even with Jayalen Watson going down also, who is
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: playing really great football last week he went down. I
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: think they might make a move for a corner if
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: they have to. I don't know. I think there's still
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: a couple of stuff that's going to happen for the
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Chiefs before the trade deadline.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Man, man, man, that's crazy. But let's talk about something
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: that was really crazy that happened the Chicago Bears versus
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders, in which the Bears go down the
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: field late in the game, take the lead fifteen to twelve,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: and then the Commanders that were able to pull off
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the hell Mary. Shout out to Tyreek Stevenson for making
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: a great moment, but Noah Brown, he caught the hell Mary.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: But what'd you take away from this one right here? Josh?
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: You know you know the Golden rule? We thought, you
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: know the golden rules. We went against history, We went
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: against history, and this one did we picked. We both
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: picked the Bears to win, and we both knew, off
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: rip we might have messed up. We both knew we.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Might have said it on that pot too.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: And then for a moment, I texted Fonzo. I was like,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: it's twelve. Oh man, I think we we messed up.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: We messed up in this game. And then then lo
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: and behold, Caleb Williams starts cooking, starts cooking, cooking, cooking
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: with hot grease. He's he's he's making the best filet
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Mignon in that fourth quarter, he was he was coming back. Yeah,
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: but history doesn't doesn't stop itself from being history. That's
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: why it's history, because it's repetition over time. And you know,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: when Brian Robinson has twelve plus carries, the Washington Commanders
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: aren't going to lose a football game. And that's what happened.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Getting Daniels threw that thing up. He says, I gotta
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: do this for b rob That's what he said. He
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: didn't say nothing else. He threw it up and then
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: bounced off the pile, landed in the arms of Noah
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: of Noah Brown, and the Commanders win this one and
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: proved his six and two. The street continues and the
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Bears fall four and three, and Brian Robinson is the
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: cheat code to winning football games.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: It's true because Johnsy texted the Streaks over. I said, well,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: there's nineteen seconds left. Yeah, no, it's just men lie.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Women lie. But the Brian Robinson stat does not lie.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: That's all I got to say.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: But if you can't count on your mom, you can't
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: count on your dad, you can't count on your best friend,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: you can count on buying Brian Robinson carries the watching
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: the Commander's dub. Let me tell you that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all I'm just saying is the Chiefs may be
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the best defense, but if Brian Robinson gets twelve carries
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: against them, just call the game.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: I hope we don't see the Commanders in the super Bowl.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: I hope we don't see them in the Super Bowl.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: No, but yeah, all all seriousness here before I go,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: what you tell a wave series? Well, from the Dada
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Daniels Caleb Williams their first matchup here, we saw like
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: a tell of two halves here, two different, two different
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: parts where each player look good. So what did you
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: take away from this one right here?
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I think I was just like I wanted a little
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: bit more from kayleb Williams. It took him a while
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: to start getting going. Jade and Daniels played good for
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: almost the entirety of the game. Just couldn't really like
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: put up scores because that Bears defense is just that's
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: another defense that may be up there. It's the Bears,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Coca Bears defense. They're they're playing great football. Montes. We
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: had a Jade and Daniels kind of running around everywhere.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: But I just think I wanted a little bit more.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: I wanted to see more of a battle. I mean,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: it did come down to the end, so I guess
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: it counts that way, but I guess I wanted more
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: fireworks in there was. Yeah, but it's just the way
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: football goes sometimes. I think DeAndre Swift really elevated the
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Bears to come back because he had that big rushing touchdown.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: What did you tell me? You're like, wait, how long
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: was the touchdown? I was like, I don't know, like
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: thirty yards And then you were like and you were
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: like it was fifty six yards? Like oh, I looked
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: up when he was at the thirty. I when he
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: was at the thirty. My bad, But no, it was
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: he He's really elevated this team to another level. DJ
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Moore hurt. Hurt.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Uh No, he ended up coming back in the game,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: end up coming back in the game.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know. I just wish I saw
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: a little bit more. But Jendn Daniels continues to play
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: good football, even coming off an injury. What we thought
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: was gonna be week to week, it's actually was day
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: to day and he came back and really baled out
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: in this one.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you think.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Must win for the Commanders. I think they elevated them
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: as elevated above the division. It keeps them above the
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: division quite well.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what it is about
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the Commanders. Usually when I see a team in the NFC,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, this team, they're legit, you know what
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I mean. I'm like, I'm like, this team, it's like
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: they're gonna win the division. I still don't think the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Commanders are gonna win the division, Honestly, I still don't.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I still don't think that because they still have to
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: play Philly. They still have to play Philly twice. I
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: believe they still have to play the Cowboys twice, given
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: we're bad. The Giants that always beat the Commanders once
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: every year. They almost did earlier on in the season
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: if they had a field goal kicker. But I don't know.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I just I can't put my finger exactly on it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: About the Commanders, I feel like eventually Jayden Daniels he's
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: gonna get figured out as far as with this offensive
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury offense. So but again it's a Brian Robinson
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: stat So I don't know. If they just hand him
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: twelve straight carries the first twelve plays in the game,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: they're gonna win the game. So who knows, But I'll
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: say this, Caleb Williams one, I didn't like the first
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: three quarters at all. But if there's any time and
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: moment you need to step up, if it's the last
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: two drivers of the game, I'd rather that happen because,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: as much as it sounds crazy, he did play winning
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: football those last two drives. He got him down down
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the field two straight drives. And if it wasn't for
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: you handed the ball to the backup center, you wouldn't
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: have to worry about this. Hell Mary in all honesty, really,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: because that fumble that happened right there, even if you
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: kick a field goal, it's eighteen eighteen even if they
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: get that, hell Mary. So So, Caleb Williams, No, parts
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: had a good game the first three quarters, but the
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter when you needed to step up. You saw
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: the Caleb Williams that we saw against Jacksonville against Indy
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: against who was the other team, the Carolina Panthers. You
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: saw that kind of klob Williams the last stretch. But
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: let's have this, Let's have this conversation now. Is Jaden
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Daniels a front runner for the MVP? Lamar Jackson he
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: lost his game to the Browns. Has a better record?
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I know there's Jared Goff, but he don't have eighty
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: passion yards. He only had well, I'll talk about that
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: stat in a second. How we have thirty yards with
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: over forty points something like that. Pat Mahomes, Yes, they
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: have the best record, but the stats aren't aren't necessarily
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: there yet. So what do you think we are going
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: to hit it?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: It's him Mahomes and Jared Goff right.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: Now, if you had to pick one right now in
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: the in the season. What a surprise? What I didn't
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: see that would coming right there? I didn't see that
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: would come right there? Man.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: No, but anything else, Terry, That's all I'm saying.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Well, he had Rashid rise, but he decided.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: He killed him.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's go to move on to
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: this next game.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Here, give them Brian Robinson a twelve plus carries. Watch
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: what happens.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: You'll put them mad at numbers. No. But the Buffalo
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Bills versus the Seattle Seahawks. This was this next game
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: here in Seattle, rainy day, and the Bills. They pretty
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: much dominated this game thirty one to ten. What'd you
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: take away from this one?
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: This is probably the worst game of the Seahawks I've
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: had this season offensively, and the run game was completely
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: shut down. And that's where the Seahawks kind of separate
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: themselves with Kenneth Walker and Jack charbon Nay. But it
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: just was non existing one. But on the flip side,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: James Cook had a big day seventeen carries, one hundred
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: eleven yards and two touchdowns. And keyon Coleman, I think
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Klushaki had a big game in this one. But it's
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: about to be the keyon Coleman's show, and I think
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: it's gonna happen very soon. I think he's starting to
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: establish himself and get a lot more comfortable within the
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: NFL over the last two weeks, and he's had big
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: games back to back. I think he went over one
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: hundred yards last week. And this week he goes for
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: seventy and five receptions, seven targets, and Amari Cooper didn't
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: even get going in this one. So it's the Bills
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I still think have a lot to show, And honestly,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I need to add the Bills in there with the Ravens.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: And still there's teams that are gonna compete with the Chiefs,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: but hey, inevitable divisional round. Bills ain't beating the chief
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: So I kind of just disclude them a little bit.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: But I don't know, it's just I think the Bills
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: probably had a little rough rough time of it over
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the over like the last couple of weeks. Offensively, I
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: don't think they've been that as high powered as they
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: were the first couple of weeks of this season. But
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: in this one they really got going against a really
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: good against a really good team. They they got going
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: and they needed this one and it shows because I
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: think once Keon Coleman starts to figure it out, then
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: this team's gonna take a whole other step forward. And
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I think don kin Kate still has to lots of show.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: I just feel like he needs I don't know, there's
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: just something missing in Dalton kin Kad's game that he
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: hasn't taken that next step to being a really good
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: tight end, to being a great Titan at least.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'll say this. I know Mark Cooper, he
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: didn't pop off in this game one catch for three yards,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: but I feel like he opened up all the other
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: guys in this offense, the James Cook, Kalosha Kurk, Keon Coleman,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: because they could go into their number two, the number three.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Everything trickles down, so you have to put the attention
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: on to Mark Cooper, Keon Coleman. He's not seeing those
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: number one looks no more. James Cook, he's not getting
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the stack box no more. So I feel like, even
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: though with Mark Cooper he didn't play good or statistically
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: good in this game, this was all about the Mark
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Cooper effect because you couldn't key in on on anybody else.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: So everybody else, say eight, but the Seattle Seahawks. They
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: were in this game early, but their first two red
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: zone drives. Honestly, it was from the center. I'm not
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: trying to blame anybody individually, but Connor Williams, you're the
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: one that costs him this game early. I'm gonna be
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: frank with you. So the first time you're at the
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: one yard line, you snap the ball twenty yards over
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Gino Smith's head. Then that kicks them into a field
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: goal range. And then the next drive you try to
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: go for it off of Bills turnover, then you step
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: on Geno Smith's foot, so he doesn't even get to
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: run or try to run the play. So that could
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: have been a fourteen to seven ball game for the
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Bills or fourteen fourteen ballgame. So it just changed the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: whole outlook of the game. After those first two drives,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: then the Bills they were able to get their momentum
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and get their favor and that Bill's defense whenever you
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: get up multiple scores, whenever you're up fourteen to three,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: then the Bills are able to just pin their ears back, rush,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: rush the passer. In Seattle Seahawks, I know they can't
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: throw the ball with JSN with Tidle, lock it with
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: no offense with those guys, but they established it through
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: the run first. You had to get away from the
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: run pretty early. So that's that was the main problem here.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: But I got a question for you. I know we're
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: gonna talk about Arizona in the second the division leader.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: But this NFC West is wide open right here. The
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: only team or Seattle's form four seat or Seattle San
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: fran Arizona. They're four and four. The Rams they're three
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: and five. Yeah, they're three and five. So just an
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: early prediction who's taking away this division? Rams damn didn't
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: even get it. Let me fitish that damn confidence.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, it's gonna be Rams. If barring injury, it's
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: gonna be the Rams.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Well they barred a lot of damn injuries already, but that's.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying. If if Cupper Puka goes down, wrap
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: it up. But if they can remain healthy, which is
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: a big if right now, not necessarily for Puka because
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: he is young still, but more for the other Cooper
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: cut Yeah, and then Kyles, I mean Kyra Williams. Yeah,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: if he continues to play the way he's playing, then
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: the Rams are gonna come back.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But all right, let's go ahead and talk about
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: this next game here, Carolina Panthers versus the Denver Broncos,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: in which the Broncos they're actually five and three. Yeah,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: they're five and three. Now Panthers go to one and
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: seven with that number one overall pick Bryce Young. Bryce
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Young his first star back since week two? Yeah, since
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: week two? So how are you feeling about this, Josh?
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: How'd you feel from this game?
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Broncos playing good? I guess their defense is playing good.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I guess, And then uh, but no, Bonnicks is looking
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: looking like a very viable quarterback right now, and now
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: he's been playing good. I'll give him that. He had
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: three touchdowns on this one. I think he got. The
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: biggest thing is getting Courtland Sutton involved. He's easily your
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: best receiver on that side of the ball, and I
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: think if you if you allow him to be the
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: main guy, I think it's gonna go a long way.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: But I will say this, I think think this may
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: be Courtland Sutton's like one of his higher reception games
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: of his career because he doesn't get a lot of receptions.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: He usually like gets.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Big, big play touchdowns, and that's kind of like where
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: he stops.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: This game looks like he got involved and he led
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: the way with eleven targets. I think once he built
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: that connection with Courtland Sutton, I think the Broncos can
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: be a little bit can can have and have that
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: consisting on the outside, the Broncos will become better on offense.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: But I think as far as rain the ball, javont
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Williams is going to give you this. He has those
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: big games, but and he writes his career off those
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: big games, I think, and right now in this in
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: this last game, seventeen carries for forty four yards. He
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: just went back to earth a little bit, and I
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: think he got people's hopes up quite a bit. But
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: the Broncos right now, they're clicking. Hopefully they suck when
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: they play us, and I'll be happy about it. But yeah,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: they beat up on the Panthers. And that's really all
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I got to say.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: See, I was trying to so you actually weren't wrong.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: The most he's had is nine receptions in the game.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: That was twenty twenty one, So this is his second
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: most ever in his career. So so you weren't wrong
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: on that. But let me I don't want to talk
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: about this game much, but I just want to You're
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: just a Gortland sudden fin No, but bo knicks the
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: last three games sixty five percent completion percentage, two hundred
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: and sixty or two hundred and seventy total yards in
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: a game and two touchdowns a game with only one
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: turnover these last three games. So he's playing damn good football.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: And hey, maybe they can compete for a playoff spot,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: and that's not necessarily for the division if the Chiefs
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: they keep running away with it. But all I'm saying
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: is that maybe the Broncos are better than then we think.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: And Sean Payton, maybe he just needed a different quarterback.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Maybe he needed a different quarterback.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: But let's go to move on to this next one,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: because there wasn't much to talk about the LA Chargers
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: versus the New Orleans Saints here and the Chargers they
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: won twenty six to eight. Spencer Vratler, he started again.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: But anything you took away from.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: This, yeah, hold on?
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: So who's it?
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Hold on? Hold on? You know it's lad Honky, you know,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: just the Jim rat gritty, scrappy, you know, coaches son, sneaky, athletic,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: first guy and last guy out, more quick than fast,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: but still sneaky, fast, deceptively fast, scrappy again, blue collar,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: lunch belt kid, lunchbeke, kind of guy, high football IQ,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: student of the game, reliable, just a gamer and once
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: again just scrappy. He's just he just played well, he
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: just played good football. On this one, he had the
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: most white boy juke I've ever seen in my life.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: But hey, he turned it into a sixty yard touchdown
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: and he he called out in this one. I think,
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: and once he starts getting involved in becoming that reliable
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: option for Justin Herbert, I think the Chargers can get
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: going again in the passing game. At least. The running
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: game has taken I think a step backwards a little bit.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's been going on with it completely.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's down to offensive injuries or
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: but JK. Dobbins isn't having these big games like he
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: had at the beginning of the year, but he's still
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: been that reliable back that you can kind of give
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: it to. So I think once that starts getting more clicking,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: this offense can still go to another level. And I
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: think I think it might. Hopefully not, but I think
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: it might because I think they're starting to build a
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: little bit more connection between each other with Lati McConkie
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: and Justin Herbert, I would just like to and I
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: think once Quentin Johnston comes back from from injury. I
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: think he'll he'll play a bigger role like he was
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: playing at the beginning of the season. So yeah, I
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: think they're still the Chargers are finding a little bit
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: more of a groove offensively and not relying on the
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: run game too much anymore.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's that's what's good for the Chargers and
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Jim Harball. He's definitely even though they kind of have
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the same record they did last year, it's just it's
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: just a different it's just a different feel for this team.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: They're actually physical and it looks like they could win
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: these close football games right here. So like you're saying,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: whenever they get Johnston back, and I feel like if
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: they just get one more receiver, then next year, that's
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: really when they're gonna be a dangerous threat. As far
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: as with the Saints here, all I gotta say is
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Chris o'lave, I don't have you in fantasy football, but
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: first time you've had a big game in a while.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: So I know, I don't know whoever had Chris o'lave,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: but people they probably benched him and he ended up
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: turning round having his best game of the season. So
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: that's just how happens in fantasy football. But let's go
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: ahead and get into this next game. Oh yeah, shout
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: out to Lad McConkie one more time. But yeah, Baltimore
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: Ravens versus the Cleveland Browns here in which it was
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: an upset city. Jamis wins in his first start of
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: the year, and he gets a win against one of
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: the hottest teams in the league, the Baltimore Ravens, and
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: they win twenty nine to twenty four. What'd you take
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: away from this one, Josh.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I think we said it before, play Jamis and your
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: team's gonna start doing something, and it happened in this one.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: But I think, like he quoted him in him saying
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: what did he say? I just went blank, I know
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: what's I know what song it is? But he on
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: one shot, Yeah, do you not know plans to blow
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: something like that. But Jameis Winston showed up in this one.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: He kind of got this team a little He gave
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: this team a little bit more spark than they've already have.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: And you know it's weird he got I mean, Cedric
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Tillman's kind of emerged the last couple of weeks. Last
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks and I was pretty high on Cedric
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Tillman out more than something. Most people who saying that
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: he's not gonna be that good breaking but look at
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: him now. Seven receptions, nine ninety nine receiving yards and
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: two touchdowns off of nine targets, so he was Jamis
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Winston was targeting his main guys in this one. He
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: had Elijah Moore for twelve. Elijah Moore siting I didn't
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: know Elijah Moore was still playing football. He kind of
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: went in my a a little bit. But in this
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: one he's he was getting targeted by Jameis Winston's obviously
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: they have a connection there with twelve targets and then
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: with Jerry Judy he also got involved. And this one
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: was a couple of big plays, so I think he's
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: starting to get He was able to find his main
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: guys and get them the football and yeah, and I
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: think that's what elevated them a lot. Even gave it
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: to Joku and also Nick Chubb think I think, I
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: know he actually didn't have a great game in this one.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: He was playing the Ravens front, so it's gonna be
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: a little bit harder. But Nick tub with sixteen carries,
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: it obviously shows that he's back to kind of full
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: health and they can give him a full workload. So
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I think that's that's good signs to come for the
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns's just a matter if it's too late for
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: them to make a run.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think so too. And there's a stat
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: it said Deshaun Watson has never had a three hundred
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: yard game in the nineteen games he's played for the Browns.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Jamis Winston his first start as a Cleveland brown three
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty four yards, three touchdowns. So it just
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: shows that this isn't Kevin Stefanski, This isn't the offensive problem.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: This is just a quarterback problem. That's all. This is
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: right here. And Deshaun Watson. I know there's some contract
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: or contract stuff that happened. I think week two, week
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: three of the season that Deshaun Watson his contract could
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: be voided somehow. I don't know how exactly. But first
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: and foremost, just shout out to the Florida State legend,
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. Just showing up. Preacher man. He started preaching
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: before the game. That's how we should have known, Josh,
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: when you started preaching before the game, we should have
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: known that this game meal was over before they even
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: stepped up on the field. But as far as with
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: this raven side here, I can't necessarily say Lamar Jackson
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: played bad football here because he hit Rashad Bateman when
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: they were up I believe, yeah, what was it twenty Yeah,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: they were up twenty four to twenty two, something like that,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: and yeah, he just dropped a wide open fifty yard
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Bombit could have changed the outlook of the game. Then
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: they had that late drive, just couldn't get it done.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: I just think you're bound to lose games. You went
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: on a five game win streak here, and it's a
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: division game, so they were just bound to lose at
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: some point. And it's not a coincidence. Derrick Henry his
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: lowest rushing since week one, since week one, and they
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: happen to lose a ball game. So you just have
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: to just keep feeding the ball to Derrick Henry. He
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: only got the ball eleven times which you were up.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: You were up early on in this game and even
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: late in the game. So I say, if you ran
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the ball with Derrick Henry does a little bit more,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: then they would have won this ball game. But let's
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: go in and get into some more interesting games.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Right here.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals versus the Miami Dolphins too, of his
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: first game back, and they actually looked pretty good. But
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals, they drove down the field late, got a
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: game winning field goal, their third game winning field goal
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: of the year already against the Niners, Chargers, and now
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins. But what'd you take away from this one here?
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: I think this is what we kind of expected with
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: to a coin back, and you see these guys a
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: little bit more involved, and we saw we saw them
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: get going, but I think it was just a little
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: bit harder for them. I don't know. They both teams
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: didn't play bad. It's just like you want a little
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: bit more from the Dolphins with two back. You want
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: a bigger Tyreek Hill game, if that makes sense, and
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: you want a bigger Devon Aitchen game, if that makes sense.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, it just it looks like the
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Cardinals when they needed to make a big play, they
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: made a big play, and especially to Marvin Harrison and
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Trey McBride, those guys had really big days and I
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: think it elevated this team to a whole other level.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: And then the run game was kind of shut down
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: for Arizona and this one twenty carries fifty three yards.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: But the but Marvin Harrison Junior and Trey mc bride
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: stepping up in the way they did it elevated this
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: team to overcome the Miami Dolphins. And it was it
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: was a super close game the entire way. It wasn't
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: like it was like one team dominated. It was like
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: a back and forth pretty much the entirety of the time.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: But I think the Cardinals having the bigger second half
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: really really really helped them in the comeback that they did.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: It a little comeback that they had to put together,
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: and then once they did, they kind of just didn't
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: let us slip away.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: So I just found this stat Trey McBride, he's a
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: or as of right now. If he's on this pace,
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: is he would be the first tight end to have
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: one hundred catches in a thousand yards in a season.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: So he'll be the first tight end to do that.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: So just shout out to him, hopefully he gets that.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: But that was the biggest thing right there. You could
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: just tell Kyler Murray he was a lot more comfortable
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: than to a too. It was his first game back,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: like you were saying he didn't have a bad game.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: But Kyler in this offense, they've been cooking and three
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: straight games for the Cardinals offensive line where they haven't
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: allowed a sack. So if you get time for Kyler
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Murray to cook up with Trey McBride, with Marvin Harrison,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: even Michael Wilson too, then you're gonna see a bunch
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: of good stuff happening here. And James Conner, they weren't
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: able to run the football, but Kyler Murray. This where
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: you pay him that money and he's out there going
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: to make these plays. And I think they have a
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: real shot to win this division. The Arizona Cardinals here,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I really think they do, because they already beat Sam
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: fran once, they already split with them, and the last
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: game is going to be in Arizona, so somewhat of
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: a home field. I know, sanm Franz they travel, They
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: travel all across the states as far as for their games,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: but it's going to be a home game, so that
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: could help out there. Maybe it's for the division, and
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I know they have the Rams and then they have
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Seattle coming up too, but I think those are very
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: winnable games because this offense, whenever they're clicking, it's one
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: of the best offenses in the league. So but as
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: far as with the Dolphins side here, all I'm gonna
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: say is Devon Aitchen, he's up and down. And did
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: you end up trading Devon Achen in that league or no,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: you did in Dynasty?
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: I traded him, Yeah, I traded him for Romo dunj
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: first round picking Kareem Hunt.
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Okay Man, I don't know what Tua back. He looks
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: like one of the best fantasy football running back.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Before right after I drafted them the Knights League, Oh.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot about that.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Whould you get Ja Jettis and Isaiah Pacheco and I
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: gave Alman Ran to von Aachen.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: That don't look too bad of a deal now doesn't
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: look too bad of a deal right now.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: Because j Jettis still is doing j Jettis things.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for real. But I feel like as far
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: as with Jaylen Wattle Tyreek Hill, I feel like they'll
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: get going just to what he just needs to get
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: another week in or playing football again, because not necessarily
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: that there's RUSS, but it could be somewhat of a
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: fear factor too of kind of what happened. But I
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: just think that both of these offenses, maybe maybe the Cardinals,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: they don't end up competing here, but I think both
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: these offenses on any given Sunday, they could explode for
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: thirty forty points and just their fun teams of watching
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: this is a fun game. And also one more thing, Josh,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: so I just hated it. So like how you say
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: with Karen Williams, or you did with Karen Williams, you
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: hyped him up all offseason and he didn't draft him.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I hyped up this game during the predictions. I said
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a high scoring game in the twenties,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: and I didn't start Kyler Murray over Kleob Williams. I
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: almost lost the game. I almost lost the game. I
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: still won. It was by five points. But I don't
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: know why. I just I just went back on my word.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: I was just a liar. I was just a liar
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: right there. But yeah, no, that's the last thing. That's
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: the last thing right there from that game. But let's
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: go in and get to the Indianapolis Colts versus the
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Houston Texans, in which those are a couple of storylines
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: outside of this game that happened. I know the Texans
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: they won six and two or they're six and two.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: Colts said go to five hundred. But Stefan Diggs, he
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: tours a cl and also Anthony Richardson he was tired
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: in this game. That's another storyline. But Josh, what'd you
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: take away from this one?
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen a quarterback tap out of a
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: football game?
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: No, that was the first time.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: That's the first. That's crazy. No, Bro, that's crazy. You
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: don't do that, especially on a critical third down. Bro,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: you don't. You don't tap out. That was That was
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: not a good look. Was not a good look for
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: him at all. But I don't know, it's just uh.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's unfortunate to see Stefan Diggs go down,
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: but they just got to hold the fort for two
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: more weeks than Ego Collins comes back. So I think
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be Tank Dale's gonna to step up in
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: a big way. He bigger than he has this whole
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: season up to this point. But Joe Mixon continues to
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: be that workhorse for the Houston Texans, and I don't know,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: he's kind of having like a little bit of a
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: research It's not like he fell off hard in Sinsey,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: but right now he's definitely playing his best football he's
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: played in a couple of seasons, and I think it's
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: helping the Houston Texans kind of eke out these games
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: a little bit and stay within the last one versus
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: the Packers. And I just think c J. Stroud, I
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: think sometimes his lack of mobility kind of hurts them
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: just a little bit because there's certain situations where he
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: could escape and get out the pocket and make big,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: bigger plays. But this is kind of nitpicking him at
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: this point. But they will come away with this win
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: and proved his six and two still sitting up there
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: at the top of their division quite comfortably. And I
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: think we saw Jonathan Taylor keep them in this game,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: especially with his run game, but the throws Anthony Richardson
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: does not make hurts them a lot. He was five
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: for nineteen at one point in this game, so yeah,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: he he his inconsistency holds this Indianapolis Colts team back
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: quite a bit. And the way we saw Joe Flacco
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: playing with this team, there really wasn't inconsistencies and they
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: were right within those games. So especially passing the football.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: It's just a I don't know, I'm not I'm not
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: a believer in Anthony Richardson no more until I see it,
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: because these are these are common NFL throws you should
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: be able to make.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So I know I hyped up Anthony Richardson all
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: before the season, and same way you are with Trevor Lawrence.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting off this bandwagon yet. I'm barely hanging on,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just hanging on by the fingertips right now,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just I'm just holding on and the things
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: flying off. That's that's pretty much where I'm at at
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: this point. So yeah, I definitely don't agree with him
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: tapping out. That's something different. Again. The NFL always seems
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: to surprise me. There's always something crazy that happens. But
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Josh Downs, he looks like a star. He looks like
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: a star. I know Anthony Richardson he struggles to get
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: him the ball, but whenever Josh Downs gets the ball,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: He's able to make a play time in and time out.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: And that's just scary right there. I think down the
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: road because Michael Pittman, he's kind of faded out of
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: this offense. Ada Ni Mitchell. I don't know when he's
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: gonna get involved exactly. He's only had four targets. But yeah,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I know it runs through Jonathan Taylor, but I think
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: that I don't know what it is with Anthony Richardson.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I guess you just run deep concepts and he'll find
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: a way to get them the ball. I don't know
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: if that makes sense. He only knows how to throw
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: the deep ball. That's the only thing he knows how
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: to throw. So in theory, it's good you have a
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: run game, play action deep ball, But I don't know.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: There's plenty of problems with Anthony Richardson here, and again
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: he's he's only played in high school. He only play
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: made one year of quarterback. Then when he was aut
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Florida he played a year and a half worth a quarterback.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: So he hasn't played much quarterback in all honesty. So
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: maybe he just needs to get those reps in. But
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not off for the Anthony Richardson bandwagon yet. But
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: as far as with the Texans here, Stefan Digg's going
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: out this is it's pretty much gonna be like last year.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: That's what's pretty much gonna be the Dalton Schultz, Dalton Schultz,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Tank Dell Show, that's what it's gonna be. But you
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: have Joe Mixon, so I think it won't be crazy
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: if you see him get twenty five to thirty carries
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: these next few games till Nico Collins gets back, because
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: when Nico gets back, then it's gonna open up this
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: offense all over again. But let's go to move on
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: to this next game here, Tennessee Titans versus the Detroit Lions,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: and which the Lions they dogwalk the Titans fifty two
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: to fourteen. Anything you took away from this one.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: No, just another domination by the by the Trait Lions.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: I think people are going to look at Jared Goff's
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: eighty five passing yards. I mean what you don't have
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: to do a lot when Jamier Gibbs rushed for one
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty seven yards and eleven carries. So it
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: just domination from start from top to bottom for the
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Detroit Lions in this one. I don't know if there's
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: really much to talk about. I think more just like
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: it just was it not a great passing game for
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: the Lions just because they didn't have to pass the ball.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: They have. They can beat you in different ways and
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: it showed in this one.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree. We're gonna just move on from that.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Just shout out to Jamiir Gibbs. Keep doing what you're doing.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: You're winning me some fantasy football weeks. So let's go
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: ahead and move on to a different game right here
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: where there's kind of question marks coming out of this
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: game now, the Green Bay Packers versus the Jacksonville Jaguars.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: The Packers they won thirty to twenty seven a game
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: winning field goal. But the biggest story Jordan Love. He
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: got hurt early on in the game, kept playing, then
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: he got hurt in the fourth quarter. So how are
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: you feeling about this? I know the Packers, they're six
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: and two, they're looking good right now. But Jordan Love
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: getting hurt. What does this mean for the rest of
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: the season. Because we don't know what. We don't know
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: any reports or anything.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I just know Milik Lewis was able
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: to play some good football when it was him, and
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: he was able to keep the Packers winning football games.
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm not I don't necessarily gonna
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna this contender with Milik Willis,
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: but there definitely can I think he can hold the float,
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: hold it, hold it a float for a little bit
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: until Jordan Love gets healthy. I don't know. We like
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: we said, we don't know the the severity of the injury.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: But if Josh Jacobs can play like this and have
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: this run game, then the Packers are gonna win some
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: more football games. And it's just a it's just a
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: matter of him getting the ball as much as he
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: twenty five carriages a lot, and we've seen Josh Jacobs
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: when he receives the main workload he had, he he
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: has one of he had one of the better seasons,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: two of the better seasons of his career when he
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: had when he had the main workload. But I don't know,
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: we just have to wait and see on the decision. Uh,
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: if Jordan Love on the diagnosis, I guess if Jordan
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: Love and make a decision on where the Packers are
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: gonna be. But I think but on this flip side
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: with the with the Jaguars, I don't know. It's just
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: they're just a little disappointing, that's all I gotta say.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: It's just like they were in this one, but they
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: just couldn't. They couldn't come out on top. Trevor Lawrence
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: has an okays he has a good game. I'm not
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: gonna say you played bad by any means, but but
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: it just needs to be better all the way around.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: And and this Jaguars team, I had more expectations for them.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: It's they're just not living up to it.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know for sure. And then it doesn't help
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Christian Kirk he has a broken collar bone. And Brian
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Thomas he's going to be out two to four weeks.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be the Evan Ingram and Tank Bigsby show.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know if Travis Etn is ever going to
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: come back. I don't know if he's gonna get traded
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: because I think he's healthy. They're just holding him out
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: because Tank Bigsby, he is the second year running back
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: looking to take over. But not much takeaway on that side.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: But as far as with Malik Willis, they haven't lost
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: the game with Malik Willis when whenever he did start.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: But I think if he does play these next few
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: stretch of games, then I'm not sure how good this
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Packers team can do. Because you have some division games
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: coming up in what your division is stacked. So I
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: don't know. Jordan Love hopefully that injury it isn't bad.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: It looked like it was a mixture of the quad
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: and the knee. I don't know if it was the
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: exact same knee because it was his right knee. I
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: don't know what he it was his left me that
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: he hurt before.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: Right, all right, I can't remember what's exact me.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But still I don't know if this is going
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: to be a trend as far as him getting hurt,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: because it's not like he's this mobile quarterback like Lamar
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson that goes out and puts his body on
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: the line. So I don't know. This just it's weird
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: because you really don't see a quarterback who stays in
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: the pocket get hurt as much as Jordan Love throughout
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: his first few years or first two years in the NFL.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. But let's move on to this
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: next game right here, Philadelphia Eagles versus the Cincinnati Bengals,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: in which it was a good game at first, but
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: the Eagles they just dominated this last part, won thirty
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: seven to seventeen. What'd you take away from this one.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: It's just I just love to see it. This first
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: and foremost. I live for these type of moments where
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: the Bengals just get absolutely railed and and this one
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: it happened, and lo, it was great. You can make
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: that face because they got realed. But Davonta Smith, I
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: like the after a rough week last week with only
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: one reception and a negative almost wait no point four
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: fantasy points, he really stepped up at a big way
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: for me this week. Six receptions eighty five yards in
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: a touchdown. That's gonna help it. And then on the
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: flip side of a j Brown five receptions eighty four yards.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: They've definitely got their tandem back and that's gonna be
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: important for them. And I think the biggest thing is
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Sae Kwon Barkley. Saquon Barkley opens up the field a
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: lot more for the Philadelphia Eagles. He got them to
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: the goal line quite a bit. He was able to
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: get Gal and Hurts a couple of those two pushed
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: easy touchdowns and pass the separator. Really, when you're guaranteed
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: the touchdown, when you get to the one yard line,
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna cause some problems and the Bengals
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: had no no answer for it. And then on the
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: flip side, I think Cooper de Gene and kennyon Mitchell
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: they're not gonna get talked about a lot, but they
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: played great against the Cincinnati Bengals. And even they're against
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals team because Jamar Chase, sure he had
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: nine receptions, but he really didn't wasn't able to do
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: entirely too much. There weren't a lot of big plays
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: down the field in this one for the for the
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals, I don't know if it's more because T
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: Higgins wasn't there, so they zeroed in on Jamar Chase
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: and really shut him down. But I mean shut him
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: down as ninety seven fifty four yards and touchdown. That'shutting.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: That's shutting down.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that shut.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: And Plus there was a non existent run game for
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. There was no consistency in it. Chase
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Brown could not get going, Zach Moss can not get going.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: And I don't know this Bengals team, Like I said,
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: they're just not the same. They're not the same type
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: of scare that they usually have. And I don't know,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't have a lot of high
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: hopes for them anymore.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna start off with the Bengals here. I
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I just without T Higgins,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: this offense looks completely different. I didn't think T Higgins
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: he was this much of a factor, which which I
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: know he obviously is a good football player, but I
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: didn't think he'd control this much of the dynamic of
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: the offense here. And it was. This game was in
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: hand in the third all the way from the first
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: to the third quarter, early third quarter, but it just
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: slipped out of their hands because Saquan he was able
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: to just start running the ball and Cincinnati, they don't
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: have a good defense. They held up as much as
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: they could, but with not having a good defense and
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: T Higgins him being out just changes the dynamic of
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: the offense. The Bengals are just not the same. They
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: need their offensive players to stay healthy and in this
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: season just for them to have a chance to win,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: which even at that, I don't know if the Bengals
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: are scoring thirty eight forty points against the Eagles defense
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: because there is now there is back to back games
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: where they've shown some signs that this Eagles defense is
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: a little bit better than I think. At least I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: didn't think this Eagles defense was as good. But you
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: have Kenyon Mitchell stepping up, Cooper Degene like you're saying,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: and obviously the front four. We don't have to mention
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: those guys. But if these guys are stepping up, then
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: maybe you don't have to depend as much on Jalen Hurts.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: You could run the football, play good defense. So this
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: adds another element to the Eagles which I didn't see
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: before in all honesty. So but one more question. Are
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: the Bengals done because you have oh damn quick, Damn
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: that was quick? All right, you know what, let's go
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: to the schedule.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Well, it's just because, like I was looking, I just
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: lost it. It was like if the playoff picture started today.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's getting I think it's just a lot
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: of ground for them to make up, especially the way
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: the Stilers are playing right now. Get this, Stiller's about
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: to go through like a divisional gauntlet here in a
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: little bit. But I just don't see them. I don't
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: see the Bengals catching them. I don't see the Beagles
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: even beating the Ravens, like you know, like kinda the Bills.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: It's just they're just not the same team they usually are.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: I will say that, and I think I don't know
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: what it is. Zach Taylor is a pretty good coach.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: I like have respect for him, Joe Burrow, I definitely
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: have respect for it, but the same type of energy
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: that they usually have is just not there. This defense
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: isn't the same as it usually is. I mean, the
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: defense hasn't been great always, but they're still a good
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: defense usually. Yeah, and they just haven't showed up. I
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: feel like their best game was versus the Chiefs, and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: they didn't walk away with the dub in that one.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: So I got a question, is Zach Taylor on the
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: hot seat this year?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: I feel like you would be dumin tofire Zach Taylor,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: but also you kind of reached the silly Yeah, you
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: have reached your ceilings, so like to be determined. I
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: don't know, I can't really say that.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see how the rest of the season ends out.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: But in Tennessee, after being the second most winning his
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: team of like the last seven years.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that is true. But all right, let me
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: lets you their schedule. They have the Raiders next week,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: then they have the Ravens Thursday night. Now the Chargers, Steelers, Cowboys, Titans, Browns,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: Broncos and Steelers.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: No, that don't sound very convincing.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: It doesn't sound convincing. But all I'm saying is that
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: they get to play the Ravens one more time, the
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: Steelers twice, the Browns again. So if you win those games,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: theoretically you have a shot. You know what I mean,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: you you still have a shot for this division because
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: you play these teams again. And it hasn't been anything
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: crazy in all honesty. So but all right, let's go
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: to move on to this second to last game. As
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: far as for the Sunday Slate, the Atlanta Falcons versus
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Falcons they won third, one
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: to twenty six. It looked like a good game at first.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Falcons gotta wait, got away with this game early, and
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: then the Buccaneers try to come back. Wasn't able to happen.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: So Kirk Cousins versus The Bake Show, what'd you take
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: away from this one?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: I just think, uh, it sucks because I think if
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Baker has his two one of at least one of
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: his guys. This game comes out a little bit differently. Yeah,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: I just because it's hard because he's I feel like
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: he's trying to overcompensate with a lot of things. And
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: it makes sense. I mean, you're trying to get your
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: team going without and it's kind of all on your shoulders.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: Cayden definitely has emerged as a great threat for the
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: Tea Buccaneers. But it's just it's just hard when you're
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: playing the Falcons who are at full strength, you know,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: or who are not having to figure out who the
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: new number one receiver is. And Kyle Pitts and this
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: one has his first two touchdown career game off of
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: two big plays. He almost fumbled at the one yard
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: line in this one, but that was I think he did. Yeah,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: I about to say he might have, so he did.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: He did for sure. But it's all right, you know,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: like I mean, it's not right. We need to be right,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: we need even get that stuff right refs. But hey,
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: the uh, it's just the Kirk Cousins is figuring it
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: out right now. This Falcons team has definitely their offense
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: has definitely gotten going, and I think they're at their
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: best when darn Nuck Mooney is also getting involved. I
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: think because some of their games where they've been high
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: scoring or where they've played where they've kind of dominated,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: darn nub Moooney has been one of the main factors
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: of those. And then this one four steps in eighty
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: six yards and a touchdown being behind Kyle Pittson both
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: both touchdowns and yards. I think it's helping them out.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: And I think once you get him more involved than
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: Drake Lennon more involved, this Falcons team can get better.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: It just sucks because the Buccaneers definitely are a good
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: football team. It's just injuries are kind of holding them
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: back from being a great football team.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't. Obviously Chris Godwin he's done for the
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: year because his ankle got dislocated. But Mike Evans, I
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: don't know if you've heard anything, but I don't think
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: he's coming back for the next.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Four weeks or so. I said, like week eleven or
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: something like that.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: So what is that. It's week eight right now? So nine,
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: ten eleven, Yeah, about that's time.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: I saw it was week eleven, so yeah.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: It was. It's about a full week injury. So yeah,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: so hopefully they can hold down the fort I know
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: they play San Francisco the following week. I don't know
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: who they play next week, but I don't know. You
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: you tried to run the football with Bucky Irving Rashad
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: why but it wouldn't work. You had some gadget place.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: But I think that Baker Mayfield he could only do
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: so much in this game, like you were saying, he
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: was just pressing. Compared to Kirk Cousins, he has all
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: this time the run game, it gets going. I know Bijon,
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: it didn't look like he had a good game as
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: far as rushing the ball, but he did. He really
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: did have a good game overall. Just as far as
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: big time moments when they needed to get the first down,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Bijon he was there. And the Falcons, I don't know
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: whether to take them serious or not because it seemed
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: like seems like all the pieces are there, But I
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: just don't know. I don't know if they could match
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: up with the With the NFC North, I'm gonna stop
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: saying the contenders. I'm gonna just say the NFC North.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they content with them. So how
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: do you feel about that? Do you think that they
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: compete with those guys. I don't even think they'll beat
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: the Niners in all honesty when the Niners get healthy.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know. They're just a weird team to gauge,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: because they definitely have the star power everywhere they need.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: And I think I saw something like Jesse Bates and
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Justin Simmons are like like something they're doing at the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: safety position as a tandem is like historical right now, Yeah,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: but everything else is kind of just not falling in
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: place a little bit, like just a little bit for them.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: That's where they have these three losses. It is hard
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: for me to say if I'm not gonna count them
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: out because they can because can definitely throw with anyone,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: and they have the weapons there. It's just can they
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: put it all together when it matters the most. I'm
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: not too sure yet.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, me neither. But all right, let's go aha
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: and get into this last twelve o'clock game, which you
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: featured the New York Jets versus the New England Patriots,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: and what's the paid to pull off an upset here
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: beat the Jets, who now have lost five straight. They
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: win twenty five to twenty two. Josh, what'd you take
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: away from this one. Oh also one more thing, one
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: more thing. So the New York Jets, they scored twenty
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: plus points, no turnovers, allow less than two hundred and
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: fifty yards. Before then, the teams that would do that,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: there were seven hundred and fifty and oh now there's
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty and one. So good job New
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: York Jets for doing something historical. Maybe on the bad side, yeah,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: put up. It may be bad, but you you did something,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: You did something, so go ahead. Josh.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Is the I think the Aaron Rodgers experiment it's a failure.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's a definitely a failure. You gave him
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: the key, the keys to your team, allowed them to
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: make all these changes, allowed Brent brought in his guys,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: Adam Lazar, Davonte, Adams, Randall, Kobb for a little bit,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: brought in Nathaniel Hackett, got to coach fired. I don't
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: know if it was necessarily him, but I think, yeah,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: it has to do something with Aaron Rodgers, if rob
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: let's just say that for sure, it's just an felt experiment.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Even in a game where they don't play bad football,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: they lose, and it's just it's like the most Jets
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: thing to happen. It's the most Jets sting of known
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: to man to happen. He was supposed to complete the
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: prophecy that Brett Favre couldn't complete. And Aaron Rodgers it
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: looks like is Jordan Love's term in a couple in
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: like twenty in like fifteen years. So but I don't know,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Like I can't say they played bad and I can't
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: say they played good. So they just played football. They
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: It's just they did what we asked them to. Gave
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: the ball to both Brayley Allen and Breeze Hall. Didn't
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: work out. They lowered down his passing to below thirty attempts,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: still didn't work out. Garrett Wilson got the ball in
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: this one still didn't work out. So I don't know
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: what the New York Jets need to do. It's just
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: it's just not their time. It's some times teams are
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: meant to win, and sometimes teams are meant to lose,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: and the Jets they're meant to lose. And it's just
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: until until the tides changed. I don't I don't, I
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: don't know. But as far as his Patriots side, it's
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: stuck to see Drake May go down with a I
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: believe a concussion. I doubt he plays next week because
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: I think in that little bit that he was playing,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: he was playing good football. Three for six three yards
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: and he had forty six rushing yards in a touchdown.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: And he hasn't shown any signs of being a bad
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: quarterback yet. I understand he just makes young man decisions sometimes,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: and that's gonna happen with a rookie quarterback. But I
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: do wish I could have seen him play this entirety
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: of this game because I think, honestly, if he did,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: I think the Patriots win by more.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: I think. I think because Jakobe Brissett's a good quarterback
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: in the NFL. He's a great backup, a great bridge
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: type of player. But he's never gonna he's never gonna
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: emerge your team. He's never gonna take your team to
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: another level. He's never. He just can only come and
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: manage the game. And he did that with Mandre Stevenson,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: who got rushing touchdowns. He got the balls to the
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: people he needed to get it to. But Drake, I'm
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: excited for Drake May's future. I'll say that.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: I'll say I'll say this, as far as the first
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: three picks, the Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Drake me. This
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: is the first time where I could say in a
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: long time, the first three quarterbacks taken, It's like, Okay,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: these quarterbacks look damn good and really even bow knicks too.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: So the only ones that haven't played is Michael.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: And JJ Herbert and Tua.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: It's I guess since we're seeing, we're kind of seeing.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Like we're seeing the outcome of their career.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like as of right now, it's
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: it's still early in the rookie season. They can they
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: could start doing worse. But as far as from what
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: we've seen.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: Well, Mitchell Trubisky, Mahomes and Deshaun Watson for a little bit.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that you're You're not wrong that again, I guess
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: just seeing revisionist history, it it's still as early. But
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: like you're saying, we.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Know the outcomes, we know the outcomes now.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like Drake may whenever he does get a weapon,
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, let him get a Travis Hunter and
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Luther Burden, a Mecca Abuka. Let him get one of
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: those guys in this draft, then he's really gonna be cooking.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: I really do think he's gonna be cooking. And that's
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: one thing I didn't see from him at North Carolina
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: was him using his legs, and I didn't think he
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: would be this good of a runner. And it just
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: adds another threat. And maybe he's not as good or
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: maybe he's not as good as Caleb or Jaden Daniels running,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: but he poses a threat. So yeah, I say, Drake
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: May I wasn't houd him before the draft, but I
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: think he is going to be that good. But yeah,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: as far as with this Jets, Honestly, if I'm the
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: New York Jets, I know this sounds crazy, but they
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: need to start tanking for a quarterback. They need to
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: start taking for a quarterback in all reality, because we
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: don't know how much longer Aaron Rodgers he's gonna be there.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: You have the talent, like we've said this since the
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: beginning of the year, and now with DeVante Adams there,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: everything's there. The defense is there. The defense well, towards
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: the end of the game they did bad, but the
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: defense isn't bad. I really don't know.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: It's a good situation like it's still you believe, it's
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: still a good situation for a quarterback to go to.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: I don't even know, Josh, I'm not gonna lie to you,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: like I don't know. Everything looks good on paper, and
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: even watching this game, everything looked not bad.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: It looks good until it's not.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: I guess, so, I guess so, I don't know.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: It's just so disappointing because they have the star power,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: they have a sauce, they have Quinn Williams, they have No.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: That's not that's a med Gardner he lost his title
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: to because yes.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: It's not right now, DJ Reid, they have the CJ.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: Moseley is hurt right now?
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: Right? No, he's playing? Is he playing?
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: See it seems like he's hurt. You know, we're just CJ.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: Mosley go, you know, like Quinn Williams. Oh, no, DJ Reed,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Hurt's what I'm saying. I think that's he's that's a
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: big that's a big lot. That's a big missing piece
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: because CJ. Mosley is one of I think, honestly, if
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: we're having a conversation like players of the last decade,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: one of the most over underrated is CJ. I think
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: there I don't think, yeah, like at the he's never
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: been bad at any point of his career. He's honestly
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: put up a Hall of Fame career. If we're really
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: being honest, he's not. He's not. He hasn't played one
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: bast season in the NFL, and he's been consistently an
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: All Pro Pro bowler year in and year out. But
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: without him, that team kind of loses their leader a
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: little bit on the defensive side, a guy that can
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: call all the plays. And then on this offensive side,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: you have Garrett Wilson, you have Brisol, you even have
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Braylan Allen. Now Tyler Conklin's a good, reliable tight end,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: and now you have DeVante Adams and you have all
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: and you have one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: And it's not getting the job done. So I don't
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: understand where the problem is for the New York Jets.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: It's just it has to be a locker room issue.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: It has to be. It's a lot like they're just not.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: This a plan because even penalties too. Like you know,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: in all honesty, what this team is just like an
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: older version and like a more talented version of the
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Teams that on theory they have good Aaron
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: Rodgers problem. I think it is a Aaron or not.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: I think I know it is an Aaron Rodgers problem.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: I know it is because they're doing this exact same thing, which.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Doesn't motivation guys. He doesn't motivate his guys. He's more
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: he's he I just feel like he's he's just out
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: of it, like he doesn't like he says he cares
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: about winning, but where does it show. Yeah, it doesn't show.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: I just don't know.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: It was in Green Bay, like his last year in
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: Green Bay, he was just complaining the whole time because
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: he had to throw the rookies, you know, yeah, like
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: it's just like to throw the Christian Watchson, Romeo Dobbs,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: all these guys that he and then once Christian Watsons
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: started doing his thing, then he became cool with him.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: At first, he was like no, like he was just
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: tearing them down the whole time.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Well, to be fair, if if through my first pass
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: to rookie receiver who's in the first round and he
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: drops it for a touchdown, I don't know if I
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: would trust it around oh, second round, second round. It
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: was an early early second. But no, I don't know.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Usually I have a take, but I don't have a
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: take for the New York Jets. It's just so much
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: question marks in all honesty.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: But that figure that sh out, that's what I gotta say.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: I know, but it's too late for them figure that out.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no it's raps or you know what. Let's
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: go and look at the remaining of this Jets schedule
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: because we're almost at at the mid midpoint, so I'm
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: pretty sure we could do mid season Awards next week. Damn,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: that's crazy. This time's been going by quick. But they
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: have the Texans Thursday Night, the Cardinals, the Colts, Seattle,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: the Dolphins, Jaguars, Rams, Bills, Dolphins, so they don't have
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: many easy games right here. So it's not looking good.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: It's not looking good. But yeah, like I was saying,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: let's go to and get into this Thursday night football game,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: this last one that we're gonna talk about, Minnesota Vikings
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: versus the Los Angeles Rams Rams that get everybody back
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: Pookah Cooper Cup along with Karen Williams. Minnesota Vikings. After
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: the loss last week, they try to bounce back, but
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: they didn't. Rams. They win thirty to twenty, also featuring
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: a sam Donold face mask that didn't get called. They
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: were down eight, they were at the one, or it
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: was two or three yard line something like that. Their
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: own So I don't know how much it was gonna
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: affect that. But what'd you take away from this one?
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: The Rams that full strength are problem and anyone that
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: thought Cooper Cup was gonna get traded put that to rest.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: He's not going nowhere after this game. He's not going
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: to where because I think they realize how high powered
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: they are when they have everyone on the field. I
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: think it was more of like, oh dang, if we
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: keep losing. I think if they lost to the Vikings,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: I think it would have been a different conversation. But
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: they beat the Vikings, and I think and I think
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  Speaker 2: there's still more left on the table for the for
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  Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Rams, especially with Matthew Stafford. He can
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  Speaker 2: push the ball down the field and if you have
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  Speaker 2: guys that are always open, then it doesn't matter. And
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  Speaker 2: I think DeMarcus Robinson kind of going back to that
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  Speaker 2: third receiver role and getting two touchdowns on this one
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  Speaker 2: really helps him out also a lot because he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have to be the main guy. He can just find
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  Speaker 2: his way and get open and be mister reliable as
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  Speaker 2: your third option. So there's a there's there's options glower
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  Speaker 2: for this Rams team when they're at full health, and
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  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna it's gonna show because I do
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  Speaker 2: believe that they will go on a run like they
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  Speaker 2: did kind of last year where they kind of made
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  Speaker 2: it to the playoffs, and I can they have the
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  Speaker 2: talent to do it. As far as his Vikings side,
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  Speaker 2: it's not like they played bad football. It's just necessarily that,
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  Speaker 2: Like they've run into two on two, two good teams
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  Speaker 2: back to back, and two teams at full strength, the
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  Speaker 2: Lions and the Rams. So it's I don't think it's
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  Speaker 2: too much to harp on like, oh, they were frauds.
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  Speaker 2: It's just more they're playing good football teams, playing good games,
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  Speaker 2: and they just come up short in the end. And
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  Speaker 2: I think that's the disconnect. I think certain teams they
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  Speaker 2: can they can beat up on. I mean we've seen
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  Speaker 2: them beat up on really good teams, but some teams
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  Speaker 2: that are up there in par at with talent wise
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  Speaker 2: with them, like from top to bottom, they're gonna beat
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  Speaker 2: They're they're they're gonna have some problems with And that's
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  Speaker 2: where Sam Donald, I think a little bit of lack
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  Speaker 2: of being able to push the ball to a certain
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  Speaker 2: level like a Matthew Stafford can kind of comes into play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And in all honesty, let me let me list
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: you this or just some teams in the NFC that
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: you'll take or you'll say Sam Donald's better than You're
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: not gonna say he's better than Jared Goff, than Matt Stafford,
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  Speaker 1: than Brock Purdy, then Dak Prescott, then Jayden Daniels, Jalen Hurts,
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  Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Caleb Williams, Jordan Love. You could go on
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  Speaker 1: and on and on. I feel like the Minnesota Vikings
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: they just reached the ceiling here. This is their ceiling.
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  Speaker 1: They could be good against some of the best teams
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  Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's just at some point, quarterback play
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  Speaker 1: has to elevate. It just has to elevate. And I
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: know that Justin Jefferson Hill was able to get the ball,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: but they just weren't able to run the football on
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  Speaker 1: this game. And I think Jared Versus and Brandon Fisk
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: just another set of Florida State guys that are popping out.
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  Speaker 1: And these two guys are making a real impact on
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: this defense and this defense they're legiting Kobe Yeah, even
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Kobe Turner too. This defense is legit. This defense is legit.
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  Speaker 1: And with this Rams offense, who any given Sunday they
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: could pop off for forty points a bare minimum. They're
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: scoring twenty points a game. So if you have a
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  Speaker 1: solid defense right behind you, then the Rams are going
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: to be scary. But we knew this about the Rams.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: We knew this before the season started. They just weren't healthy.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: So it's just they're finally help and man, I don't know,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: just just look out the rest of the NFL. You
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: know what, Since I was reading everybody else's schedule, let
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: me go to their schedule too. Let's predict the rest
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: of their record right here. So next week they got
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: Seattle in Seattle. Then they got the Dolphins, the Patriots,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: the Eagles, the Saints, the Bills, the Niners, the Jets,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: the Cardinals in Seattle. So they have one, two, three, four.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: They have four more divisional games. Man, so I don't
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: know gonna it's gonna come down to the wire, Like
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: you're saying the NFC North is coming down to the wire.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: I think this NFC West, it's gonna be Week seventeen,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: Week eighteen, it's gonna come down to the wire too.
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  Speaker 1: But but yeah, I don't think there's nothing else to
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: talk about really from this game. So so yeah, let's
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  Speaker 1: go into our so called MVPs. So we do them
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: every single week. One player that stands out, who's your
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: so called MVP.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I hate to do players for my own team.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: I just don't want to be that guy. But Leo
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  Speaker 2: Chanell is the so called MVP of the league. And
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: you know, he just has that name where Leo Chanel.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: He was meant to be a great football player. He
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: was meant to do something great in his life, and
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: right now he's he's bawling. And I'm not gonna sit
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: here and say he's better than okay in Roquan Smith,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: or he's better than Fred Warner. But if you're asking
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: me any linebacker in the NFL that I'm taking over
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: Leo Chanel, I'm not besides those two guys. And here's why.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: Here's why, here's why, and it's not I'm not being biased.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: I'm not being biased. There's not a guy that can.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: There's and pound for pound, he's one of the strongest
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: players in the NFL. First, and that's that's a stat.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: NFL combine stats. I'm not even lying. He has one
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: of the higher verticals.
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  Speaker 1: He's one.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: He's probably the most athletic linebacker in the entire NFL.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: He's just a scrappy, high motor, lunch pedl type of
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: guy first of all.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: And hi the way he plays.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: He can play. He can play with the back three,
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: he can play on the defensive line. He can play
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: anywhere on the defensive line. I've seen him give guards troubles,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: right tackles and left tackles trouble. He's there at the
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: right moment we need a big play to stop the run.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: He can guard tight ends. He's the so called MVP
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: of the week, and it showed in this one. He's
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: a dog. Give me Leo Chanel, so called MVP of
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: the week.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: Well, all right, I'm gonna be a little bit biased here.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: You're a little bit biased here. You see that flag
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  Speaker 1: to the back right of you. Give me Jamis Winston,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: Florida state legend. He's my so called MVP of the week.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: Upset in the Baltimore Ravens three hundred and thirty four yards,
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: three touchdowns and then sixty six percent completion percentage. Dude
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: is a dog whenever he gets on the field. He
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: could preach, he could preach, be funny, eat W's but
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: he's gonna ball out. He's gonna ball out either way.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: And Jamis Winston he's my so called MVP, and probably
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: next week too because they're gonna win next week. I
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: don't know who they're gonna play, but they're winning next week.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. But anything else to take away
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: before we get out of here.
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs on the Rock twenty zero Still boys, keep it moving?
• 1:24:17
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• 1:24:19
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