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Chasing That High Ever Since · Nick and Kristen in the Podcast

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  Hello, Welcome to the Nick and Kristen in the podcast.
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  Podcast. I'm Nick.
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  That's Kristen. We're married.
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  We have a 7 year old. What do you want to say?
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  I mean the backwards hat, yes, it looks so bad.
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  It's not a great look. I used to rock this look.
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  I don't know what's wrong. When I was younger.
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  But what's so what's wrong? But you just don't like
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  backwards hat on anybody. It's the.
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  Gap. It's the gap.
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  It's like a skylight for your scalp.
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  Like I don't know why there's like a peekaboo window in the
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  hat. Like do all hats have?
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  No, I have AI have. I have another one that doesn't.
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  Most of my hats don't. This is like a.
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  Weird hat. It just looks weird.
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  It's like this Venetian window above the door for.
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  Those that aren't watching the podcast, you'll have to watch it
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  to understand what it. Sounds like it's like a snapback
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  but. Like, yeah, it's just a hat with
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  a hole in the bag. Like like they always do.
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  Like it's for like a. Ponytail through or something,
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  but for whatever reason on you because whenever you wear a hat,
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  it makes your head look like a basketball.
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  It's an incredibly round head. And then to have this like
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  peekaboo part, like it looks like you're going bald if it
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  wasn't for the shaggy hair sticking out like of.
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  The ears, I know like, yeah, the haircut's coming, guys, don't
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  worry. But like if I took off my
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  glasses. So this is what this is the.
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  Next it looks it still looks bad the whole.
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  Like you fell in love with. No, it's not.
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  It is this is the guy that used to show up at your work I.
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  Don't know. Can you turn it around?
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  What's wrong with the? Well, the lighting, it's, it's
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  hard for hats. Well, no 'cause it's like my
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  hair's all along. So who cares?
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  It looks better. It would look better than what
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  it is right now. Yeah, it's fine.
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  It looks zero different from the how it looked.
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  Worse, What about the front? What about front way?
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  You and a hat is fine. You and a hat's totally fine.
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  It's just the weird little, I don't know, like, I mean, put
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  the hat back. There.
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  No, no. This is what you get now.
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  Yeah, I. Don't care, just straighten it
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  out. No, put some effort in this is.
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  My life now I'm dealing with it. So a new survey.
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  Yeah, found that. So if you had to don't look at
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  the the the notes here, if you had to describe 2026 in one
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  word, in one word, what would that word be?
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  How do you think the people voted on this?
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  I mean, catastrophic is up there, Hellscape is up there.
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  Personally don't think globally. Yeah, no, but I am thinking, I
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  know dream crushing if it's more hyphened, right?
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  Soul sucking? Is that also another hyphen?
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  Can that count as one word? You're still alive and you have
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  a job. Yeah, can I just put tears?
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  But maybe. All right, so the top word, if
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  you cast your votes now, everybody, the top word is
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  stressful. Yeah, 2026 is being described by
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  Americans as stressful. The second close word.
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  It's challenging. Yeah, I mean.
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  Those both were. Who is not under stress and
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  challenge currently? It's like, I'd love to meet
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  that. Person, there's some comfort in
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  knowing that I'm not alone. No, I know.
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  Especially because we're going through unique stuff, I think in
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  our our. Personality.
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  Like we're, you know, out of a job.
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  It's hard to find work trying to change careers, but turns out
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  most people are going through hell right now.
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  So yeah, it's difficult because like, well, you know, we are in
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  now. This is my tangent.
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  OK, so I feel like the Nostradamus of radio.
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  I feel like I've been able to predict when every major thing's
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  going to happen. You and I both.
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  Kids for Nostradamus, if you want to do that, you have to ask
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  Siri. Yeah, I'm Siri.
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  About that. I.
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  Don't really know anything, but it's this idea of like we have
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  always left before the station we were on like imploded or
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  exploded or change format or or erased all their their people.
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  And so like 2020 hits. We had just moved here to
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  Portland and I started to get that feeling, that little
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  inkling. We had only been here a couple
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  months and I remember thinking, I feel very unsafe in this
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  industry because Covic had hit and we were like, there was a
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  lot of layoffs. Really quickly they had started
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  docking our pay because they're like, we can't afford you guys
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  anymore. And we're like, okay, this is
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  starting to feel scary. And that's what I went back to
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  school and got my masters. Was it that long?
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  Because it's taken like five years.
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  And so like then, you know, what comes around is budgets, right?
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  That's that's the reason that we got let go or whatever.
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  But it's like this whole time I've been saying this industry
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  is not going to be what it's what we're only here for a
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  limited time. We've got to be prepared.
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  We've got to be prepared. This industry in particular.
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  And I think that the the industry is in trouble.
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  That's a whole different thing for another time, yeah.
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  I think, yeah. But the industries that were
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  grilled into our head as millennials were like
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  technology. STEM and I look around and I see
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  Intel laying off 16,000 people. I see sales force laying off
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  massive amounts of people. It feels like no industry feels
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  stable, of course. Nobody's not.
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  Stable, but like all these safe quote, unquotes, I'm doing air
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  quotes. If you're just listening to
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  this, like all these safe industries that we were told,
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  oh, you'll be all right. Yeah, get into technology, go
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  into STEM. I feel like they're the ones
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  that are really having a hard time.
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  Yeah, I agree, because AI is coming for everybody.
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  And so and we're talking, I don't know who we talked about
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  this with the with the other day, but kids don't know coding
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  when we thought that's exactly what we want to teach kids.
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  Like Gen. Z doesn't know anything about
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  coding, knows very little about computers now, because you don't
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  have to, because you don't have. To and I will code it for you.
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  Yeah, we don't. Need that we grew up in the era
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  where we had to learn computers to like adapt where they were
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  born into this computer age. And so they haven't had to.
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  And I thought that they were just going to know how to, they
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  were just going to be able to communicate with the computers
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  and like, they're so far behind where we're at.
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  And then the next generation next, it's just going to be so
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  left behind. So learning coding, which I
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  thought was going to be where all the kids were going to go.
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  I 100% almost bought Lily like an introductory to coding like
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  like program when she was little to get her into STEM.
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  And now I'm kind of like, well, there's no, that's not a job
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  anymore. Like that's just not a job.
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  What she would have to do is be the coder that goes into the AI
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  code to make sure that it's accurate.
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  Exactly. Yeah, it's wild.
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  It's it's crazy. And the.
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  What are the industries anymore? Yeah, I well, I thought I was
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  going to talk about this at the end of the podcast, but now that
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  you've tangent. Oh, sorry, I'm sorry.
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  I no, no, that's fine because like we have the, everyone's
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  rejecting AI. So I think that I, I don't want
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  to wait this long, but I feel like in two years for radio
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  specifically, they're they're in the moment now where they're
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  pushing so far to one side that eventually it's going to have to
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  come back, swing the other. Way well, and I it's.
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  Like a pendulum. Yes, the pendulum is going to
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  swing back and, and we, I think we have talked about this on the
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  podcast before, but it's worth repeating.
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  Like I think that they're, we've already seen it, but there is a
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  desire for analog things like people are buying physical media
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  again because they're sick of owning 7 streaming devices and,
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  and a movie on one of those and then having it taken away or
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  canceling that subscription and then not having it anymore.
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  Physical art is coming back. People want to own paintings.
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  They don't want NFTS. Like people want to go to the
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  ballet, they want to go to be entertained somewhere.
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  But right now, like concerts are too expensive.
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  But there's this desire for like, I want to be entertained
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  in person as opposed to sitting on a screen.
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  Like there's just, I'm starting to see it, people on my TikTok
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  at least at least are like rejecting the AI ads that people
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  are saying if I see your company and you're using like an AI
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  person to talk like I don't want anything to do with your brand.
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  Yeah, people are are turning and I, you know, the people will,
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  will let you know what they want.
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  And if they got so saturated so fast that even, I mean, I've
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  already started to where I'm like, oh man, this is too much.
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  There's too much. Too much like a lot of the music
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  you're kind of like Nope, that's AI written.
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  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, immediately you can tell
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  like there's one ad that they were pushing.
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  It was like a paid promotion on TikTok.
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  And it's just, there's something about the way that AI people
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  look. It's so close, but it's not
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  quite human. We can tell there's no lights.
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  And immediately it makes you feel unsettled and immediately
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  it puts a bad taste in your mouth about the brand.
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  You're like, why are you not investing in actual people?
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  And eventually it makes you turn off on that and they're going to
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  go, hey, it's we can't do this anymore.
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  Exactly like the easy way is not they're going to be the right
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  way for this. And so Evangeline Lily, who
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  played the. Wasp in.
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  Marvel for Marvel the Universe, they just Marvel just fired 1000
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  people and most of them were with the visually creative
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  departments. They're going to have AI and
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  they replaced them with AI. And so Evangeline Lily was like,
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  shame on you, Disney, for doing this because like the people you
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  fired created these characters and they, they like designed
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  everything and you're giving them to this robots that are now
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  just going to manipulate the things they design and into
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  future projects. And so it's not the first time
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  that's going to happen. That's not the last time that's
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  going to happen. And I, I think that the only way
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  we can push back on it is by reacting to it.
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  And you know. I think people are.
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  Reacting pretty. Strongly at this point.
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  And it's true. Yeah, It's nice to see because I
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  thought I was alone on this island.
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  By the way, you brought up Marvel and this is again an
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  extreme tangent. Screw the plans.
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  I know, I'm so sorry. Like I didn't know.
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  I don't know what you have planned.
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  I really didn't have. Anything but like I was
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  scrolling TikTok and somebody posted the clip from Avengers
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  end game, which by the way, is like hit some sort of milestone.
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  Was that 10 years ago or there was some like round Number like
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  anniversary? And I hopefully I'm not spoiling
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  it for anybody. Please, if you if you haven't
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  seen it now, my God, what's? The 30 movies that lead up to it
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  mid. Yes, I mean, we had invested
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  since Iron Man. Like Nick and I were going to
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  the midnight screenings for all of these Marvel movies, but they
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  posted the, the, the clip, the like 5 to 7 minute clip of like
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  Captain America down on his luck Thanos like.
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  And then all of a sudden you here on your left in the
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  earpiece and all the portals start opening up and all The
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  Avengers start showing up and you see Captain America renewed
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  hope and everything like that. And I watched the whole damn
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  thing. Like again, I've seen that part
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  1000 times. It always sends chills down my
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  spine. He catches the hammer and you're
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  just like losing it. You hear the audience just lose.
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  The audience reactions. The audience reacting in just an
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  insane way to Spider Man showing up, Peter Quill showing up like
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  Doctor Strange showing up. And I clicked under one of the
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  comments and the the first comment that had a bajillion
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  likes on it is exactly the sentiment that I have.
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  And it says I've been chasing this feeling since this time in
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  the theater, like I will never ride this high ever again.
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  And it's so true. They built it so well, it was so
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  well done. And now it's, it's falling
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  apart. But like, yeah, that those
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  moments. Well, there's somebody that's
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  watching it for the first time on TikTok and I, I stop every
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  time she's they're showing all these emotional parts.
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  And so it's like you you scroll through and she watch, she was
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  watching the part where Hawkeye and.
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  What the What is her name? Oh, Black Widow.
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  Black Widow have to make the choice on the.
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  Mountain. Oh, yeah, And so, and she's like
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  breaking down. I'm like, man.
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  And I'm like starting to feel it again.
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  Yes, there were so many moments. I was sobbing in the theater
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  because and, and and this meant a lot to me, like this.
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  And. And I don't know if I've ever,
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  like, expressed this, but like, this moment particularly meant a
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  lot to me. No, I don't think I heard this
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  because Hawkeye and Natasha, Oh yeah.
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  Were best friends. Yeah.
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  And it was always like, oh, will they?
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  Won't they? And it was like, no, no, like he
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  was married and had kids. Yeah, he was.
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  She was not interested. Like it was never like a oh,
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  there's a flirty romance. It was this two platonic.
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  Like it was a friendship. They were like a male and female
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  friendship that were best friends.
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  And I've always loved that because I always hate the like
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  men and women can't be friends. And it's like, no, they
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  absolutely could be. And they were put in a lot.
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  Of positions. Yeah, they were put in a lot of
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  positions to like pull on that friendship too.
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  So they they really, they played that really well.
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  They played. It all really well, so
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  beautifully done from like a writing standpoint.
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  Yeah. And just like to see that moment
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  of these two characters that weren't really the main
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  character. Yeah, 100% really have this,
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  like emotional scene together. And to really play on this fact
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  that it's like they've always been friends.
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  They've always had each other's back.
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  It was always them against the world.
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  And we never really got to see that.
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  There were the two humans, yes, that I had to fight with these
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  gods. So good.
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  Yeah. This, this tangent's gone on way
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  too long. I don't know.
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  It's fine. Let's keep it going.
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  If we want to talk Marvel, I'm down.
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  But that's where DC falls down and like, that's where it goes.
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  It's just like the the human like these moments where you're
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  just like, you connect to them as a as a woman that has like
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  male friends in her life that mean nothing to her other than
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  just friends. Like it's so lovely to see that
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  on screen. And then when you take Wonder
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  Woman and start having Aquaman hitting on her instead of
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  respecting her in the second, in the second whatever movie, The
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  Justice League movie, you're just like, Oh my God, guys.
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  Like what are you doing writing? Wise man.
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  So this is an old, this is an old thing that you're bringing
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  up. Now it's so bad I'm so.
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  Sorry because I just watch how how none of this would be
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  possible if it wasn't for Batman Begins.
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  Like, they would not have invested any money into the
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  superhero world Batman Begins needed to succeed.
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  And because it did, like everyone else is like, oh, you
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  guys like superhero movies? And so that's where they
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  brought. It up Marvel kick.
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  Well done. No, I know, I know.
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  But then they took that and then everybody wanted to go like, Oh
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  well, you got to be hyper realistic with it.
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  You got to go dark and you cannot, you cannot do that with
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  Superman. And they tried to do it.
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  You're even wearing the shirt today.
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  I know who knows where. You're going to.
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  Talk about I. Believe again, James Gunn.
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  I watch that movie over and over again and I I see all the flaws
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  and they see and they see how terrible it like the moments are
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  and how none of the continuity makes sense.
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  I'm like, why? Why did you have to do a
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  backflip to start to shoot the like?
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  It's very much like, why did you do that?
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  But it was it's because it's a bad ass thing to do.
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  It's just a. Fun.
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  And it's just a fun movie. And so thank you, James Gunn,
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  for bringing fun back to Superman.
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  And you're you're excited for Supergirl.
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  I am excited for Supergirl because they're going to make
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  her a badass. And I like that they're, I like
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  that they're going into her trauma.
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  Yeah, it's going. To be interesting, that's what
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  I'm actually really excited about is because she drinks
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  because she has trauma and like we don't see this from
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  superhero. Well, we do.
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  You see a tragic back story on all these superheroes, but never
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  the girls. Never the girls.
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  Never the women. The women never have trauma.
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  It's always like we're doing things for the greater good.
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  It's because it's the right thing to do.
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  And it's like, OK, yeah, all of that.
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  Great. But don't you think that we've
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  had messed up childhoods, too? Like, don't you think we've seen
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  some age, probably the worst, You know what I mean?
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  Like she was there when her whole planet was destroyed.
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  Yeah, like you don't say she carrying.
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  That out like you don't think that affects her on a day-to-day
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  basis? Like, I love I'm, I'm excited to
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  see how they play that out. Yes, I know that it follows a
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  comic book and the comic was really well received.
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  So I think I didn't when they casted her, I was like, who?
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  Why? Why would you do that?
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  Oh, I love, but I like her now after all the years of getting
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  an orange scene, her act, I'm like, you know what?
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  And then I saw the trailer. I'm like, all right, I think you
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  could do this. She's.
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  One of those ones where I go, I buy it.
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  Yeah, exactly. I buy that she's a superhero,
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  but also that she's very deeply traumatized.
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  Yeah, so I can see. It in the eyes.
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  I think James Gunn's doing the right thing.
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  So I think he'll do dark for dark characters, He'll do light
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  for light characters. Like he understands the
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  assignment. Yeah.
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  And we'll see. So Lanterns is coming to the TV.
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  I'm excited for that. The lanterns.
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  Yeah, Green Lanterns, there's a. Show.
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  The show with lanterns who have like legitimate actors in it,
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  and so they're. The worst?
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  No, they're the worst because. Ryan Reynolds, They're the
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  worst. They have a ring that gives them
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  power. They're like.
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  One of the stronger the the the space police like there's,
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  there's so much to do there we care about.
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  Space. Police.
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  You do. If you do it right, you don't
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  care. But I care, so all right.
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  OK, well guys, I'm so sorry that you, you, you, you prepped it
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  all. All today, Yeah, No, that's
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  fine. That's pretty much all I wanted
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  to talk about. Also, in order to get over the
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  the challenge of your life, if you're having a struggle, here's
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  what they recommend. Take a walk.
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  What That's the take a walk. Where's this Limit your news
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  alerts, listen to music, spend time with friends if.
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  You're go get a prescription for that Zoloft.
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  You deserve it. Listen to a podcast perhaps of 2
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  jolly old. Nerds.
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  I'd like to stress you out. I know.
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  Thank you for listening. Thank you for watching wherever
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  you are. We appreciate you.
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  Talk to you tomorrow.