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Sopha Dopha Beefs With Sydney Airport Over Toast-Gate · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Amy Torber. I'm Sophie Torber. And I'm Kate Torber. And
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  Speaker 1: coming up on today's show, Indie Clinton finally unveils her
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  Speaker 1: secret project, Saffron Barker throws shade at her ex, and
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  Speaker 1: why Sofa Dofa is feuding with Sydney Airport over gluten-free toast.
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  Speaker 1: But first, I felt really awkward coming to record today, Amy,
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  Speaker 1: because I heard that one of your neighbours thinks that
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  Speaker 1: we're actually filming OnlyFans together, not that we're recording a podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Is that wishful thinking on his behalf? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: So I've got to give you the blow by blow.
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  Speaker 1: So basically Sophie and I were filming a video on
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  Speaker 1: Friday after work. Can I point out, not of a
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  Speaker 1: pornographic nature. No, you were filming a parody about Ooshie,
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  Speaker 1: so it couldn't be further from the truth. It was
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  Speaker 1: something for our Instagram accounts. And let's paint the picture.
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  Speaker 1: So Sophie was wearing a troll doll bum bag. She
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  Speaker 1: had my speed dealer sunnies that I had to go
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  Speaker 1: and get from the petrol station and a cat. And
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  Speaker 1: we were filming a scene where she was running down
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  Speaker 1: our street after stealing some ooshies in a video. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: one of my other neighbors came out and introduced herself
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  Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, are you a triplet? I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I am.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And she said, oh yeah, I heard there was a
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  Speaker 1: triplet living on the street who does OnlyFans with her sisters.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, sorry. I was like, excuse me. The
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  Speaker 1: worst thing is our conversation got interrupted. So I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even able to clear up that It's a podcast called
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  Speaker 1: Outspoken that we have. I need to find out more
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  Speaker 1: information from my neighbor. I said to my husband, we'd
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  Speaker 1: clearly be living in nicer houses if we were doing OnlyFans. Well,
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  Speaker 1: in hindsight, I was like, wait a sec. Did she
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  Speaker 1: say the neighbour said we were on OnlyFans or we
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  Speaker 1: should be on OnlyFans because we're triplets? I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it matters. I think it's both gross. It was fucking weird. Again,
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  Speaker 1: no shade for anyone who chooses to do OnlyFans, but
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  Speaker 1: when you're not on there. Yeah, when it's not your
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  Speaker 1: cup of tea and you're not actually on there. The
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  Speaker 1: funniest thing is it made me think back to moments
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  Speaker 1: where we had been together outside, which he might have
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  Speaker 1: seen because, like, for example, years ago, We did this
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  Speaker 1: Christmas video that was sort of like a payout of
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  Speaker 1: Home Alone. It was for a brand. And we were
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  Speaker 1: out the front like filming with my like Sony A7
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  Speaker 1: III and like tripods and everything. And this has happened
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  Speaker 1: to Sophie and I before with our PR company. we
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  Speaker 1: went to shoot a video at this guy's house. And
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  Speaker 1: so we walked in with all our lighting and everything.
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  Speaker 1: And apparently the neighbor said, oh, so are you filming
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  Speaker 1: OnlyFans now? And I was like, can women hold cameras
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  Speaker 1: and professional camera equipment without being accused of being on OnlyFans?
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  Speaker 1: I actually don't even think it's just the camera equipment.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's the multiple birth thing. It's disgusting. People
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  Speaker 1: are disgusting. We've actually had colleagues before who suggest that
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  Speaker 1: we start OnlyFans accounts because we'd rake it in because
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  Speaker 1: we're triplets. We probably would. Maybe we're doing something wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe we do scrap the podcast and start OnlyFans. Now
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  Speaker 1: that everyone thinks we're on it. Well, actually, because it's
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  Speaker 1: so funny. Maybe there's some deep fakes going around. Because
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  Speaker 1: where we record, it's in the front window and we're
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  Speaker 1: actually sitting on this long couch together. It looks like
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  Speaker 1: some sort of director's couch. Oh my God, that's a
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  Speaker 1: That's the point because I have had the blinds up
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  Speaker 1: before and I've had all of like the tripods and lighting.
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  Speaker 1: We're not been sitting in the nude, but the nude.
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  Speaker 1: We don't normally film nude, but I mean, I was
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  Speaker 1: recording in my laundry at the time. Definitely not. If
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  Speaker 1: you look at us now, we've literally got tracky dacks
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  Speaker 1: on our house. Don't ruin the illusion. They should know
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  Speaker 1: that we're not on OnlyFans because none of us can
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  Speaker 1: pronounce lingerie wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Somehow, Sofa Dofa ends up in the most random of
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  Speaker 2: random beefs. She's beefing with the airport over gluten-free bread.
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  Speaker 2: She's beefing with a bitch and a mug that was
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  Speaker 2: $ 125 and very ugly.
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  Speaker 1: What? Sofa Dofa has found herself in the middle of
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  Speaker 1: yet another unlikely internet feud. This time it's with Sydney
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  Speaker 1: Airport over its lack of gluten-free toast. Now, Soph, how
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  Speaker 1: did this all come about? Well, Sophia was at Sydney
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  Speaker 1: Airport very early one morning for a brand trip and
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  Speaker 1: she is a Virgin Airlines Platinum member. So she usually
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  Speaker 1: eats her breakfast in the lounge and they always stock
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  Speaker 1: gluten-free toast. However, on this occasion, because she was there
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  Speaker 1: with a brand, they had actually booked her Jetstar ticket.
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  Speaker 1: So she didn't have access to the lounge. First world
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  Speaker 1: problem there. She even attempted to get in. So she
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  Speaker 1: tried to swipe her Velocity card and they were like, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: can't get in. Yeah, I think because you actually have
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  Speaker 1: to have a ticket for that day in order to
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  Speaker 1: get in. It sounded like the virgin worker gave her
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  Speaker 1: a bit of attitude. So I think she was already
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  Speaker 1: having a bad morning. It makes sense, though. People could
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  Speaker 1: take advantage of it, come in for a free feed,
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  Speaker 1: then leave. Or be like Kath and Kel from Kath
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  Speaker 1: and Kim and try and get in on their blockbuster card.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I got in my head when I heard
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  Speaker 1: her telling this story. Also for Dover is celiac. And
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  Speaker 1: she clearly had it in her mind that she was
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  Speaker 1: going to be able to get a gluten-free option at
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  Speaker 1: the lounge. She was so ravenous that she tried her
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  Speaker 1: luck at a cafe. They didn't have any gluten-free toast.
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  Speaker 1: She continued to walk around to what she claims was
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  Speaker 1: every single food vendor at the airport. They also had
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  Speaker 1: no gluten-free toast. She added that there was no gluten-free
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  Speaker 1: granola and the only option was sushi or, I quote,
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  Speaker 1: a stanky-ass fucking fruit cup that looked like it had
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  Speaker 1: been marinating in its own bean juice for hours. So
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  Speaker 1: I know exactly what fruit cup she means at City Airport. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: not particularly appetising. And this was when she decided to
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  Speaker 1: put up a video calling out Sydney Airport for its
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  Speaker 1: lack of gluten-free options. Now, this video was shared to
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  Speaker 1: her secondary account, which goes by the handle NotSoForDofa. She
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  Speaker 1: has 303,000 followers on this secondary account, which is pretty impressive.
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  Speaker 1: She captioned the video, I'm ravenous. Let's take a listen
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  Speaker 1: to what she said.
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  Speaker 3: Sydney airport, you need to get your shit together because
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  Speaker 3: I make this video like every six months. Nothing happens.
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  Speaker 3: But tell me why I'm walking around to every single
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  Speaker 3: food place in the airport and no one does gluten-free.
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  Speaker 3: No one. Every single cafe, no gluten-free bread. Do you
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  Speaker 3: have gluten-free bread?
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  Speaker 2: You don't have it?
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  Speaker 3: Shock horror. What would you like me to eat? Because
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  Speaker 3: literally every single place.
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  Speaker 3: They don't have gluten-free and they don't gasp.
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  Speaker 1: Now, this video elicited a massive response. At the time
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  Speaker 1: of recording, it's almost hit 1 million views and has
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  Speaker 1: been liked 83,000 times. People were divided in the comment section.
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  Speaker 1: A number of celiacs agreed with Sophia. One said Sydney
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  Speaker 1: Airport has legit the worst gluten-free selection up there with
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  Speaker 1: Melbourne International, while another said 100% Sydney Airport is terrible.
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  Speaker 1: And on the other hand, a lot of people defended
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  Speaker 1: the airport. One user wrote, if you've gone there and
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  Speaker 1: said that every six months, sure you would be prepared
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  Speaker 1: to eat before or bring your own food. Another said,
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  Speaker 1: it's got nothing to do with the airport and everything
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  Speaker 1: to do with the individual establishments. Many others pointed out
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  Speaker 1: that there were other gluten-free options, citing salad, sushi, fruit
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  Speaker 1: and meat as some other possibilities. rather than toast. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the social media team at Sydney Airport saw Sophia's video
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  Speaker 1: and chose violence that day. They thought it would be
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  Speaker 1: a good idea to return Serve at Her, sharing a
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  Speaker 1: comeback to their 57,000 followers on TikTok. Who the hell
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  Speaker 1: is following Sydney Airport on TikTok? Well, clearly they share
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  Speaker 1: some pretty provocative posts. So I mean, I'm probably going
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  Speaker 1: to go and follow them now. So they made Sophia's
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  Speaker 1: video into a trending sound and shared a carousel of
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  Speaker 1: seven cafes at Sydney Airport that supposedly serve gluten-free food.
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  Speaker 1: And across the photos, it said, what to eat at
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  Speaker 1: Sydney Airport if you're gluten-free and captioned the post, some
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  Speaker 1: options for our gluten-free friends. Hope this helps at Not
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  Speaker 1: So For Dover. Now, as you can imagine, this video
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  Speaker 1: got a huge response. The video generated 1.2 million views.
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  Speaker 1: So more than Sophia's original video. Well, Sophia was quick
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  Speaker 1: to respond under the video. She wrote, ah, yes, seven
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  Speaker 1: options across three terminals and most of them sold out
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  Speaker 1: or not available when you go. Pulp and Grind told
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  Speaker 1: me their granola wasn't gluten-free last time. Now her comment
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  Speaker 1: racked up 62,000 likes and an overwhelming amount of people
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  Speaker 1: came into bat for Sophia. One creator called Georgia wrote,
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  Speaker 1: this is a weirdly passive-aggressive post that's super unnecessary. I
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  Speaker 1: have also struggled to find gluten-free options here. Definitely should
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  Speaker 1: have taken a better approach to this. Think about incorporating
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  Speaker 1: gluten-free bread breakfast options. Another said attitude from an airport
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  Speaker 1: is crazy. Whilst another said surely someone has lost their
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  Speaker 1: job over this. It's so defensive. Like why would you
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  Speaker 1: attempt to piss off one of Australia's biggest influencers? Well,
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  Speaker 1: someone also said it's fair to be annoyed that a
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  Speaker 1: standard cafe doesn't have gluten-free bread for a simple toasty.
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  Speaker 1: Not everyone wants sushi or a burger before breakfast. A flight.
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  Speaker 1: And Sydney Airport actually hit back at that post. They said,
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  Speaker 1: to be fair, she said every single food place didn't
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  Speaker 1: have pollution free. It's just such a bizarre response from
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  Speaker 1: Sydney Airport. I mean, they already don't really have the
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  Speaker 1: public on their side, especially when you look at how
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  Speaker 1: much they charge for food. Well, there were actually some
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  Speaker 1: people who agreed with the airport under the post. One
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  Speaker 1: person wrote, I stand with Sydney Airport, whilst another said,
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  Speaker 1: You took her the fuck out. They probably all work
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  Speaker 1: at Sydney Airport in the marketing team. Well, another person said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm absolutely appalled that they don't have my exact meal
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  Speaker 1: plan at the airport. Maybe I should have pre-packed or
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  Speaker 1: eat an alternative. What makes this even more uncomfortable is
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  Speaker 1: that Sophia alleges that the airport were liking derogatory comments
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  Speaker 1: people made about her underneath this post. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if they've now unliked the comments or that the comments
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  Speaker 1: have been removed because I actually couldn't see any of
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  Speaker 1: them on the post. It seems like they just took
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  Speaker 1: it so personally. Yeah. It's like, what? Well, Sophia chose
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  Speaker 1: to share a rebuttal to Sydney Airport's viral video on
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  Speaker 1: her secondary account again. So she threw shade at the airport.
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  Speaker 1: by saying she knows they're watching because they're chronically online.
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  Speaker 1: In the three minute video, Sophia said she now has
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  Speaker 1: beef with Sydney Airport and has to get it off
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  Speaker 1: her chest because she's fucking pissed. She pointed out all
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  Speaker 1: she was asking for was gluten-free toast, not a three
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  Speaker 1: course meal. Let's listen to more of what she said.
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  Speaker 3: I see on my TikTok, Sydney Airport has used my
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  Speaker 3: sound with this rage bait ass fucking TikTok with like
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  Speaker 3: my sound in the back and it's like all the
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  Speaker 3: gluten-free options in the airport. Mind you, they've done a swipe.
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  Speaker 3: It is seven slides across three terminals, seven options. So
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  Speaker 3: they think that they ate me up and they're liking
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  Speaker 3: all the comments. They're not liking any of the nice
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  Speaker 3: comments that are supporting me. They're liking all the comments
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  Speaker 3: and that are like, lol, you ate her up. Liked
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  Speaker 3: by Sydney Airport. I'm like, so we have fucking beef now.
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  Speaker 3: The options are sashimi, sushi. I don't want that at
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  Speaker 3: 6 a.m. The next one was pulp and grind acai bowl.
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  Speaker 3: When I went up to pulp and grind, I said,
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  Speaker 3: do you have any gluten-free options?
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  Speaker 1: She said, no.
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  Speaker 3: So, because a lot of the comments are like, lol, like,
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  Speaker 3: you go Sydney Airport. Like, she obviously made that video
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  Speaker 3: without doing her research. How about you do your fucking research?
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  Speaker 3: Because when I went there, they said that the granola
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  Speaker 3: wasn't gluten-free.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, she's right. Who the hell wants sashimi at
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  Speaker 1: 6am or a burger for breakfast? It seems to me
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  Speaker 1: like Sydney Airport is trying to make out that Sophia
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  Speaker 1: is some brat influencer that's complaining. But this is a
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  Speaker 1: very valid issue that a lot of celiacs have. Our
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  Speaker 1: best friend is celiac and we've been traveling with her.
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  Speaker 1: And it is actually a nightmare to get gluten-free options
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  Speaker 1: from different places. So I feel for her. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: were totally banking on the fact that people would be like, ugh, yuck,
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  Speaker 1: another entitled influencer demanding things. It's like, all she wanted
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  Speaker 1: was some gluten-free toast because she's celiac and can't eat
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  Speaker 1: anything else. I mean, I don't think it's a ridiculous demand. No, well,
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  Speaker 1: her response did receive an outpouring of support. At the
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  Speaker 1: time of recording, the video has had 2.8 million views
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  Speaker 1: and 319,000 likes. And The collective sentiment under the post
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  Speaker 1: was that Sydney Airport was completely unprofessional in their response
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  Speaker 1: to Sophia. One comment that popped up a couple of
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  Speaker 1: times and made me laugh was people suggesting that maybe
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  Speaker 1: Sydney Airport's social media manager was Sammy Guggs. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that is due to the fact that they've obviously had
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  Speaker 1: a friendship falling out, but also she gets painted quite
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  Speaker 1: often with a mean girl persona and people were saying
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  Speaker 1: that Sydney Airport are mean girls. It reminds me of
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  Speaker 1: when the police social media accounts will try and be
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  Speaker 1: really funny and And often it can be quite hit
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  Speaker 1: and miss. And in this instance, I think the social
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  Speaker 1: media team at Sydney Airport's gone, oh my God, oh
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  Speaker 1: my God, we've been mentioned by this huge influencer. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to do something that's really, really funny. And it's backfired. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think if they posted this video maybe five years ago,
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  Speaker 1: it would have hit completely differently because- Or during COVID
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  Speaker 1: when everyone was pissed. Well, yeah, like in the early 2020s,
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  Speaker 1: businesses were being commended for hitting back at entitled influencers.
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  Speaker 1: But now I think people feel completely uncomfortable about a
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  Speaker 1: large organisation like Sydney Airport literally piling onto a 22-year-old
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  Speaker 1: girl who's simply asking for some gluten-free options. Particularly someone
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  Speaker 1: like Sofa Dofa, who is incredibly popular. Veruca Salt actually
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  Speaker 1: came out and said she's literally the people's princess. She's
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  Speaker 1: like Princess Diana. Like, why would you ever call her out?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that's a big call. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if she's as well liked as that. It
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  Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of something that you would do, Kate,
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  Speaker 1: if you were working for Sydney Airport's social media team,
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  Speaker 1: because you hate being told that you're wrong. You'd be like,
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  Speaker 1: wait a sec. You would go to every restaurant and
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  Speaker 1: be like, what's your gluten-free option? Okay, we've got to admit.
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  Speaker 1: I've got you. Are you working for them, Kate? Are
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  Speaker 1: you moonlighting for Sydney Airport? I've got to admit, when
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know all of the details and I saw
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  Speaker 1: that Sydney Airport had clapped back, I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it seems like they've got quite a few options, but
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  Speaker 1: As Sophia said, when you dig into it, there really
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  Speaker 1: aren't that many. The thing is, when I saw her
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  Speaker 1: initial post, it did come off as a little bit entitled,
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  Speaker 1: but I think as a large entity, you've got to
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  Speaker 1: play the game. I mean, Sydney Airport would win more
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  Speaker 1: flies with honey if they said, oh, let's get you
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  Speaker 1: on board as an ambassador and we're going to introduce
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  Speaker 1: more gluten-free options. Can you come into the airport and
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  Speaker 1: review them? But instead... They have completely misfired by literally
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  Speaker 1: pissing off the whole gluten-free community. I'm wondering, though, how
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  Speaker 1: much Sydney Airport have to do with the individual vendors
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  Speaker 1: that are actually there selling food. Like, can they tell
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  Speaker 1: them that they need to provide more gluten-free options? Regardless,
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  Speaker 1: even if it is out of their hands, you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to go blast this person on your official TikTok page. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: it came across as completely unprofessional. That's the thing. Where
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  Speaker 1: they've also misfired is that they thought they were being
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  Speaker 1: King Dicks by you know, chastising Sophie Dofer and personally
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  Speaker 1: victimising her, but they've then in turn personally victimised the
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  Speaker 1: whole gluten-free community who were like, fuck you, there's not
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  Speaker 1: enough options for us as there is. I'd be interested
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  Speaker 1: to know if you guys were Sydney Airport social media
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  Speaker 1: manager and you saw Sophia's initial post, like what do
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  Speaker 1: you think they should have responded? If it was me,
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  Speaker 1: instead of being completely defensive and jumping down her throat
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  Speaker 1: trying to prove that she's wrong because technically you can
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  Speaker 1: have a burger at the airport at 6am, I would
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  Speaker 1: have reached out to her and said, hey, This is
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  Speaker 1: something we really want to improve on. Then in the background,
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  Speaker 1: maybe get a bakery involved to deliver gluten-free toast to
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  Speaker 1: different cafes at the airport. Then get Sophia to come in,
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  Speaker 1: rate the best gluten-free toast at the airport, have some
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  Speaker 1: fun with it instead of being patronizing to one of
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  Speaker 1: the country's biggest influencers. Use her power instead of working
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  Speaker 1: against her. It's a hard one because I think that
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  Speaker 1: by the social media team responding, as we said, it's
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  Speaker 1: made them look bad, but also responding nothing can look
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  Speaker 1: like you're avoiding. I mean, because Sophia's video got a
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  Speaker 1: lot of views. I think they acted too quickly. Like
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  Speaker 1: as Sophie said, if I was part of the social
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  Speaker 1: media team, I would have tried to get this mega
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  Speaker 1: influencer on board to potentially maybe promote a gluten-free option
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  Speaker 1: that was coming to Sydney airport. In the background they
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  Speaker 1: could have been speaking to cafes and said, hey, we
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  Speaker 1: are getting this criticism a lot. What can we do
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  Speaker 1: about it? And then let's do something fun and bring
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Sophia down to the airport rather than slagging her off. Yeah,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: even if it was like a meal like this is
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Sofidofa's airport meal. Yeah, exactly. But even if they'd reached
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: out to her and DM'd her and said, I'm so
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: sorry to hear you've had such a bad experience. We
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: really hope that we can rectify the situation soon. I'm
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: sure she would have then jumped on and said, look,
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: they've said this. They were so lovely. They have it
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: in the works that maybe they're bringing this new gluten-free
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: menu online. To the people, like, it was just the
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: worst thing they could have done is calling her out. Clearly,
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: the social media team wanted to jump on the virality
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: of this situation. And potentially, they have a lot of
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: pressure on them to get views. I mean, it's pretty
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: impressive that they have over 50,000 followers or whatever it is.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: So clearly, the person who is in charge knows what
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: they're doing in terms of generating views. But unfortunately, it's
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: just created bad PR. I think someone in the media
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: team got a bit cocky when they initially saw people
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: sticking up for them under Sofa Dover's post and pointing out,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: And I thought, oh, let's do our own. I think
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Verica Salt summed it up perfectly when she said that
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Sofa Dofa gets in the most random beefs with people
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: because at the start of 2024, there was Muggate. Then
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: last year, she was critical of Australian Fashion Week. I
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: wonder if she purposely ignites these feuds to stay relevant
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: because it was her who initially called the airport out.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think she would have expected them to respond
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: the way they did. I think these are just freak incidents. Well,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I think it's also because she just posts so much
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: about her life that she's sure to ignite some beef
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: with someone by being critical. Well, if she's going to
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: call people or brands out, they're going to jump back in.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: and they want a bit of the peace of the action.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: So Sydney Airport were clearly looking for some attention. They
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: wanted to grow their social media stats. It's just backfired
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: on them greatly.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: Ben's CEO's calling him and they're like, it's on Media Watch.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: It's all this stuff, like the way they treated it,
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: even though there was nothing, it was literally just screenshots
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: and shit.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: It turns out Indy Clinton's secret project isn't an OnlyFans account,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: but a podcast. The popular TikToker announced the news on
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Thursday after teasing for weeks that a spicy project with
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: her husband was coming soon. I want to put it
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: out there. I guessed it was a podcast. I think
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: you said sex toy, Sophie, didn't you? Yeah, I did.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: You always like to point out that you're right, as
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: you mentioned in the previous segment. Well, I was, so
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: there we go. Yeah, but I thought that that was
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: the most basic thing that it could be. Yeah, I
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: was going to say every influencer seems to have some
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: campaign that they're releasing a podcast, but Indie has done
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: it the best in this situation. Well, that's why she
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: obviously put together this very strategic marketing campaign because, as
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: you said, every influencer Influencer and Their Dog has a
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: podcast at the moment, so she managed to gain a
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: lot of interest around this new podcast. Now, she did
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: try and throw her followers off the scent a day
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: before the big reveal by uploading a series of photos
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: of her and Ben modeling clothes with slogans like mother
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: and in the dog house. Now, this led followers to
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: speculate that she was releasing a clothing line Funnily enough,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: the top comment on her post was, thank God, I
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: thought it was another podcast. Now, that comment got 2.8
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: thousand likes and Indy ended up announcing the news by
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: responding to this comment in video form. So she wrote
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: on the post, honestly, podcasting accessories need to stop being
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: so accessible. Now live on Apple and Spotify. Now, the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: clothes in the photo shoot are actually podcast merch. So
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: fans weren't left disappointed. These went on sale. And they
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: sold out within an hour. It's pretty funny because Indy's
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: been posting behind the scenes photos of her and Ben
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: trying to box the clothing up and get them out.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: And she said that it was just so overwhelming. It
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: took her an hour to pack one box. Well, clearly
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: all of the marketing work because the podcast jumped straight
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: to number one on Spotify's charts.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: And it's not the first time Indy's had podcasting success.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: In March 2024, she launched the Sleep Deprived podcast. which
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: ran until June that year. And that was number one
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: for a long time. The best thing about this new
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: podcast is they actually filmed the first episode in their
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: actual laundry room. So they had the camera perched inside
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the washing machine and they sat on laundry baskets. It
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: was all very on brand. Well, the first episode definitely
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: didn't disappoint. It was called Two Horny Housemates in the
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Trenches with Three Young Kids. And they really didn't hold
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: back because they admitted that the last year has been
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: really tough and they opened up about Ben losing his
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: job in commercial real estate. It turns out that he's
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: been out of work for nine months now. So I
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: wonder if that was also another incentive to start this podcast.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: They mention that he has been working on some special
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: projects on the side, but it also shows why Indy
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: has been able to dip her toe more into the
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: marketing world and the business world because now she's got
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: someone else to help her look after the kids. Well, yeah,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's been a blow for Ben losing
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: this job, but for the followers like us, it's great
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: because now he's able to be in Indy's projects. Like
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: he and Indy were great on the podcast together. Oh,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it and I can see why it
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: rated so highly because It was clear they wanted to
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: say more about Ben's workplace, but he is currently suing
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: his former employer over alleged unfair dismissal. Despite the case
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: still being heard in court, they couldn't help themselves but
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: make a few jibes though. Let's take a listen. Hasn't
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: it opened a different perspective on life?
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Like stepping out of the shackles of corporate and then I.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't say you stepped out of it.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I would say you got kicked out, like shoved with
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: a fucking boot to your back and you fell. Oh,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: my God. And you got winded on the way down
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: and broke a few bones.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: A few knives in the back as well.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: And you got some knives in.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: As I fell onto my face, there'd be multiple knives
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: in the back.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Do you know what?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was a not so subtle job, wasn't it? Yeah.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, Indy actually went on to compare the way
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Ben was treated as the fight on Mean Girls where
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: they're all pulling each other's hair. She then urged anyone
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: who was looking into getting into commercial real estate not
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: to work for a company that was beeped out. I
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: think we all know which company she was referring to.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I'm living for these comments because it reminds me of
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the shade that we used to throw on and probably
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: still continue to throw at a certain employer that I
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: was let go from, a certain TV network. Yeah, you've
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: always got to get the jibes in there, don't you?
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: It feels good. Now, as you mentioned, Sophie, Indy and
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Ben did not hold back. They actually asked each other
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: what the most difficult moments in their marriage have been
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: thus far. And interestingly, Ben said his was the doghouse incident.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: So OG listeners will be across it as we covered
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: it quite extensively back in 2023. But for those not
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: across it, A rumor spread like wildfire that Ben was
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: in the doghouse after Indy allegedly discovered he'd visited a
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: strip club when he was on a work trip. Now,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Indy ended up venting about the situation on her close
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: friend's Instagram story, but one of her friends stabbed her
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: in the back and sent a screenshot of it to
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: influence a watchdog account, Dutch Minty. From there, the story
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: went viral and it was actually covered by a bunch
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: of traditional media. News.com.au ran with the headline, Wife's Payback
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: After Husband's Strip Club Lie. Well, the New York Post wrote,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Influencer gets payback after husband lies about going to strip club.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: He looks so guilty. Well, after listening to Indy and
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Ben's account of what actually happened, reading between the lines,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: it sounds like the media reports were actually pretty accurate.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: So Ben admitted he'd been dishonest and told a few
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: little white lies, which Indy found out about. Indy then
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: butt in and said this.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: No, but the worst part was when I found out
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: you didn't even tell the truth. You kept lying.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: And kept lying.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: But I'm not like that anymore.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: But that was such a.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Lesson in that.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: You know that I'm literally already fucking 19 steps ahead
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: of you, dude. And so that you literally physically can't
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: be like that. Like I had, I was not even
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: a psycho. Maybe I was a psycho, but like I
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: had the guy, the manager of this club or wherever
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: you were, like sending me CCTV footage.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: And then I'm not even kidding.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Like, I don't think I told you that.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I told you a lie. Ben went on to say
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: that he was glad Indy got the footage because it
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: proved he didn't do anything wrong and Indy ended up agreeing.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I totally get why Indy reacted like that though, because
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: not only did Ben leave for his work trip on
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Mother's Day, but it was also when Indy was only
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: nine weeks pregnant with her third child, Sol. So Bambi
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: was only four or five months old and Navy was
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: around three. Now, if that situation couldn't get any worse,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: they all had influenza A and I like that you
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: can have a bit of a laugh about it though
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: and bring out the doghouse hats because if I was Ben,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: I would have brought home more than a bunch of
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: flowers to apologize. I actually kind of felt for him
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: in a way because it sounds like he absolutely copped
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: it at work. So he said he rocked up to
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: work and there was a Daily Mail article about him
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: that got brought up and then he said it just
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: kept growing from there. Then Indy said this.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: So I was dealing with those two things, betrayal, like
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: the trust thing, and then the media and your job
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: was literally in my fingers and you're like threatening me like, fuck,
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: like what the fuck? Like, and then it turns into my,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: like it was my fault. And I was like, oh
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: my God, I can't believe this. Like, cause the whole
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: media picked it up and it was all my fault.
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: And like Ben's CEO's calling him and they're like, it's
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: on media watch.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: It's all this stuff.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Like the way they treated it, even though there was nothing,
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: it was literally just screenshots and shit. Oh, my God.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: And it turned into my fault. But, like, it was
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: intense because it all fell on me and I'm the
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: pregnant one. I'm like, I'm the one that's just been
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: betrayed and what the actual fuck. And then I had
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: Ben being like, oh, fuck you. Like, I'm not even
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: going to say.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: What you said.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I'm not even going to go into what you said. But, like,
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: it was fucked. And so I had to then get
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: in control and, like, reach out to the media myself
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: and journalists and, like, pretty much beg them to remove
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: these articles.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: It's kind of reminding me of Wagatha Christie. The fact
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: that she only had 30 friends on this close friends list,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: yet someone betrayed her so badly like that. I feel
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: like knowing what Indy's like, she probably has already figured
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: out who that was that betrayed her. Or she's got
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: the PI onto it. Exactly. Now, as for Indy's toughest
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: moment in their relationship, she said it was her botched
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: nose job. They actually said they were going to do
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a full episode on it, but it was really sweet
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: when they touched upon it. Ben actually broke down in
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: tears and he said it was just so difficult to
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: to watch Indy go through all of that. It was
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: actually quite touching. I mean, in that situation, it would
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: be really hard to see the person that you love, one,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: just not looking like themselves at all, but then trying
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: to comfort them and say, oh, it's going to be
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: okay even if you can't change it. Well, he said
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: it was really tough because it's not like he wants
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: to go, oh, my God, it looks so bad and
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: make her feel worse. And because he was trying to
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: play it down, Indy said that she didn't think he
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: understood the extent of it all.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: He's a 10, but he takes longer taking his Instagram
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: pics than you do.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Despite vowing that she was going to keep her breakup private,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Saffron Barker has been dropping some not so subtle clues
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: on TikTok about what really led to her split from
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: model Josh Milne. Now, five days after announcing the end
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: of her relationship on YouTube, the 26-year-old uploaded a selfie
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: to TikTok with the caption, my intuition is so genuinely accurate,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: it's actually scary. Now, instantly fans begged her to drop
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: the dirty details. One wrote, be messy post-tee. Whilst another said, oh,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: what did he do, which Saffron ended up liking. I
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: really love going through and seeing what comments influencers choose
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: to like because I feel like it's their way of
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: hinting what happened without actually saying anything to get them
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: into trouble. So fellow influencer, Vaina Fernandez, who also lives
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: in Dubai, wrote, lose her energy from him as per expected.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I love you, queen, which Saffron liked. That's fucking gold.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Her sister-in-law added female intuition with three chef's kiss emojis,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: whilst her friend Harriet Blackmore, who appeared on one of
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the recent series of Love Island, wrote, love you so much.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Another person wrote, he fumbled so hard. You were everything,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: which Saffron also liked. People have been commenting that on
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Josh's Instagram too, because I'm still following him. but I'm
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: only following for the hope that he shares some kind
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: of tea. But I've noticed his follower count has dropped
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: quite a lot since the breakup. He used to be
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: on like 30,000 something. He's now dropped back down to 29,000,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: which would be killing him because he has been ramping
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: up the content. I've never seen him post so much
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: because I followed him the second he started dating Saffron.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: He has been doing the cringiest photo dumps. It's all
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: like me working out on a treadmill looking hot and
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: look at me being hot doing a picture. I am
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: so close to unfollowing him. The only reason he was
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: getting a lot of engagement on TikTok as well was
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: was because poor Saffron was having to reshare all his videos.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, all I'm seeing at the moment
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: are his abs. And I didn't think I'd say this,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: but I'm sick of seeing them. Like, yeah, he's obviously
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: got a great body, but it's like, well, what else
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: have you got? But you know, when someone's good looking
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: and their behavior is making them absolutely repulsive. It's like,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I know I'm good looking. Yeah. And he wasn't posting
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: as many thirst traps when he was with Saffron. And
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: you also got to know him on the YouTube channel.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: And he seemed like quite a nice guy. Like he
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: didn't seem like some arrogant twat that he's putting across
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: on Instagram. Yeah, the arrogant twat TikToks and reels are
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: just so unattractive. He keeps posting these videos where the
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: clothes are just appearing on him. And I see a
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: lot of male models doing it. And you could just
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: tell he'd freeze framed it at some point, which made
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: his dick look big. Like, I don't know if I'm
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: going too rogue here, but I just was like, we
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: all know what you're doing. Like, of course it froze
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: on that frame. Well, Saffron threw some more shade in
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: a second TikTok. It was entitled... women's intuition and in
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: this video she and her sister-in-law Imogen did the he's
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: a 10 card trend have you seen this one before
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: yeah he's a 10 but no it's a new spin
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: on it so it's similar to that trend but it
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: incorporates playing cards so basically if we were to play
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: and you pulled a number say you've pulled a two
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: for example I would then have to describe what I
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: see as two behavior and Like what I would think
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: would not be acceptable behaviour. I saw the video, but
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't actually get that bit. Okay. So to paint
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the picture, Saffron drew a two of diamonds and Imogen
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: said this.
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: He's a ten, but he chooses his friends over you.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: A two?
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Yes! I'm guessing that friend that they're referring to is
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: the guy that is literally in all of Josh's content now.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: People are saying there's a bit of a bromance going
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: on there. So much so that everyone thinks that they're dating. Yeah.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: So the guy that you're talking about is called Nathan
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Samuel and he and Josh have been hanging around each
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: other like a bad smell. Nathan, as you touched on,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: is a guy he went to Bali with and he
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: took all of these fringy shirtless photos and And the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: thing is, Nathan has a really large following on Instagram.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: So he's also a male model. He has 481,000 followers.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: He recently also broke up from his fiancee. There is
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: this rumour going around that they've both split up with
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: their partners and have started dating one another. I think
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: that's all bullshit. That's all bullshit. I mean, they're just
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: in love with themselves, not with each other. It's more
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: it seems like they have had a conversation where they're like,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: wouldn't it be cool to be single? Let's dump our partners.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: That's more the vibe I'm getting. And Josh is now
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: choosing to write off his coattails because this guy has
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: got like nearly half a million followers instead of Saffron's. Yeah.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Let's listen to the next. He's a 10, but. He's
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: a 10, but he likes girls' bikinis pics.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Literally zero. If there's zero, it's not one.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: He especially got out of the ace just for that.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: That sounds about right, doesn't it?
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I reckon he's definitely guilty of this, particularly whilst the
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: two of them were travelling apart from each other. He
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: would have been liking every girl's photo he could come across.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: You could tell that he just liked making her feel insecure.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: This one felt very pointed. Let's have a listen.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: He's a 10, but he takes longer taking his Instagram
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: pics than you do.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he is. I don't know a four.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah!
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: No, it's a four! When I watch these videos, I'm like,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: how did the girls get it right? Slay.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: We know it's a woman's intuition.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: That was great. I always wondered what Saffron thought of
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: his cringy Instagram content because, again, this might sound sexist,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: but I almost think there is something different with a
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: girl wanting to take lots of photos and, Well, he
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: would have said, oh, it's for my modelling. But it's like, mate.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I think what it is in this situation is it's
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: clear that he has always tried to use saffron for clout.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: But when he met her, he probably played it all down.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: But as the relationship got more serious, his intentions became
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: clearer and he was probably more overt with, oh, yeah,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: take a photo for me and put it on my socials.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: He was always taking cringy Instagrams. He would have these
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: ones where he'd do a muscle in the mirror. No,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: but before, if you look back at his Instagram, he
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: was only posting modelling photos. As soon as he started
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: dating Saffron, it was suddenly like, here's me being a chef.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Here's me doing TikToks. Here's me doing reels. It was
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: all about the content. Yeah. And she made his content better.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: She obviously trained him up in how to do it.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: And do you know what's the best thing? Is that
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: ever since Saffron has ended things or however things ended
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: between her and Josh, her personality has come back because
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: her views on YouTube dropped significantly. Oh, they did. Because
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: she lost her personality because he was stifling her. Every
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: time she'd say something, He would criticize her. She lost
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: her sparkle and it's coming back. And that's coming back.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Like even her having a laugh in that video. I've
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: not seen her acting like that for years. And that's
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: why people love Saffron and have loved her for years. Well,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I'm just hoping we get even more details about this breakup.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, everyone was picking up on the fact that
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: they were talking about Josh. In the comment section, one
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: user wrote, I have a feeling the ones Imogen is
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: giving Saffron are about her ex. And that comment got
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: over 3,000 likes. Whilst another said, this is so Josh coded.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Another point of that to Saffron that maybe her intuition
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: wasn't that good. They said, okay, Josh definitely would choose
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: his friends and take longer taking pics. But Saffron, did
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: you not see that man in his content? I'm not surprised.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: It's photo shoots and friends. I remember seeing a YouTube
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: video of Saffron's brother Jed and Imogen visiting Saffron and
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Josh in Dubai. And I remember thinking, I bet Jed
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: thinks that this guy's an absolute flog. Like I would
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: have loved to have heard the conversations that Jed and
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Imogen had about him. I don't think they would have
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: been too complimentary and I think that all the knives
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: would be out now and a lot of imitations of
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: his current Instagrams would be happening. I just want to
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: know what Wendy, her mother, thinks because she is the
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: one who, you know, she is very harsh on all
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the boyfriends. It seemed like they got on quite well. Well,
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: that is where we're going to leave things today because
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Sophie could talk about Safran Barker for the next two hours.
• 34:45
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