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7-07-26 Hour 1 - USA Bounced by Belgium/Seth Wickersham's profile of Payton/Jokic is a Nugget for life · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Kane on demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 2: Till then all.
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  Speaker 3: Tell that extrudge twice in the United States is time
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  Speaker 3: of the game.
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  Speaker 2: A few moments lay down truss On to the battle.
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  Speaker 3: It gets across into Cantillar's rising up at Belgium. Retech
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  Speaker 3: delayed moments later shot the Cattalara climbs the ladder.
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  Speaker 2: Not great, Bob Richard speed out of the air. Freezer's
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  Speaker 2: got to get there in.
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  Speaker 3: Data, whether it takes it down off the chest to Cattlara,
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  Speaker 3: knocks it away, Jim Reid can't block it.
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  Speaker 4: Just an absolute disaster for the United States that have.
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  Speaker 5: Come off mistakes.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know why he hesitated. If he felt he
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  Speaker 2: was going to get contact from Dekittalar in the back,
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  Speaker 2: who was going to try to make a challenge, then
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  Speaker 2: he's out of his goal. He can't use your hands there.
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  Speaker 6: Oh that's way worse.
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  Speaker 2: That sucked, dude, that sucked a lot.
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  Speaker 5: So excited for this and then immediately you could tell, oh,
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  Speaker 5: you don't have it to the idea.
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  Speaker 4: From the very jump, I mean, from the time they
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  Speaker 4: kicked that ball off poop Fest.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, USA was on its heels steps.
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  Speaker 4: Everything felt dangerous. What a thud, what an absolute thud.
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  Speaker 6: I mean when the first thing that happens, I apologize
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  Speaker 6: to your friend Ricky in Belgium, Robbie, Robbie, you all know, Robbie.
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  Speaker 5: Yep uh, the very first thing had happened, like a
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  Speaker 5: minute in Belgium, gets his prime look and just misses,
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  Speaker 5: and then the US three defenders all in the box
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  Speaker 5: ball right in front of him.
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather not clear this.
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  Speaker 5: And to combine that with Tillman, who was excellent this
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  Speaker 5: entire tournament, but in back to back games scores huge
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  Speaker 5: goals off a free kick. He gets you right back
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  Speaker 5: in the game, and you felt it like that crowd
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  Speaker 5: in Seattle wanted so badly for something to hold on to.
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  Speaker 5: He gives them one, only to give that up, you know,
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  Speaker 5: a minute and a half later, taking all the wind
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  Speaker 5: out of the sales.
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  Speaker 2: The last goal was the one that just made me
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  Speaker 2: sick though.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I know that a goalie pops out of
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  Speaker 5: his box and rips one down there to stop any
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  Speaker 5: sort of threat. You can't play Paddy kick with the
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  Speaker 5: ball with the guy for you?
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing?
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  Speaker 5: H All of it was just so disappointing, and I
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  Speaker 5: don't I don't know, like it's funny. When the game ended,
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  Speaker 5: I was disappointed, but I was like, I don't know
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  Speaker 5: how good the team was, you know, I don't know
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  Speaker 5: how much farther they were gonna go even if they
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  Speaker 5: won that game. I don't know what the feeling I
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  Speaker 5: should have been having was. Should it have been gratitude
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  Speaker 5: for making it as far as they did because they
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  Speaker 5: haven't done that in a while, is it? Or should
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  Speaker 5: it be disappointment that they played the way they did
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  Speaker 5: in that game?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's disappointment only because there are a lot
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  Speaker 6: of people that weren't ready to jump on right the wagon.
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  Speaker 6: They just weren't ready. They were unsure whether the sport
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  Speaker 6: wasn't for them, this team was unknown whatever, and then
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  Speaker 6: once they hopped on the car, crash the wheels fell off.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's what happened.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, all this hub up, all this national pride, everybody
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  Speaker 6: came together. Everybody hated Belgium yesterday and all that hate
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  Speaker 6: went could put god owned the back line, Tim Reim,
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  Speaker 6: ponytail guy, terrible goalie, terrible, politic, politic, terrible.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I was just gonna say this. There, here's another
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  Speaker 5: problem I have because I am not Ah. I am
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  Speaker 5: not somebody that would consider themselves a soccer expert nor
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  Speaker 5: a men's national team expert.
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  Speaker 2: I am the.
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  Speaker 5: Most casual viewers that you're gonna find. I'm one of
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  Speaker 5: those guys. If they're on and it's a game that matters,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna watch. If not, then I won't. But i
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  Speaker 5: watched a lot of this World Cup, and I've seen
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  Speaker 5: the best players in this tournament, the messies, these the Hollins,
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  Speaker 5: the guys like.
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  Speaker 2: That, they are noticeably amazing. Like I thought these guys
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  Speaker 2: were the best. Oh, look at the best.
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  Speaker 5: I've heard for years that Christian Polistic is our gold standard,
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  Speaker 5: our beacon of this team.
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  Speaker 2: Where is it? Where is it?
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  Speaker 5: Because I don't notice Polisic being much different than anybody
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  Speaker 5: else that's on the field. I noticed Tillman, I notice him.
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  Speaker 5: We've noticed Balligan throughout this tournament. Why are we putting
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  Speaker 5: Polistic in these conversations if he's not noticeable.
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  Speaker 6: He had a terrible year this season overseas and it
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  Speaker 6: carried over. He's always injured, he's always unavailable. There's always
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  Speaker 6: something that comes with it. Just not there wasn't there
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  Speaker 6: for the biggest tournament, the biggest night of American soccer.
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  Speaker 2: So whatever.
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  Speaker 6: You know that I hate being here because every time
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  Speaker 6: we go through this, we're here. You invest so much
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  Speaker 6: into it, and last night was an opportunity to break through.
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  Speaker 6: You cannot tell me that that Belgium is that much
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  Speaker 6: better than the US.
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  Speaker 2: Can't. They're not. They're not that much better.
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  Speaker 6: Vic I had the better game plan, yep, and they
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  Speaker 6: had the better finishers and they didn't choke everything the
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  Speaker 6: US did last night.
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  Speaker 2: They were aggressive, they went for it, they wanted it.
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  Speaker 4: I the first save, Freeze makes a save right away,
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  Speaker 4: right yeah, just a jumping, diving save, I mean like
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  Speaker 4: in the first minute.
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  Speaker 2: And they said maybe his best save of the tournament.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, all right, he's on. He hasn't had
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  Speaker 2: he hasn't had a save like that this tournament. Okay, good.
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  Speaker 4: Then there was a corner, got it out of there, okay,
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  Speaker 4: and then their Belgiums right back at it, so they
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  Speaker 4: scored that. It's one one. I'm like I don't care
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  Speaker 4: that it's one one. We're not going to win this game.
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  Speaker 4: And as the game went on, I'm like I was
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  Speaker 4: sort of content. I'm like, eh, kind of what I expected.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know why I expected that, but kind of like, Eh,
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  Speaker 4: it's what I expected, and here we are today. It's
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  Speaker 4: a it's a I guess it's a pretty big thought
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  Speaker 4: I would have. I guess I would have appreciated maybe
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  Speaker 4: a penalties loss or you know, something later and that
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  Speaker 4: would have been heartbreaking, but make it feel better about
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  Speaker 4: where the state of.
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  Speaker 2: Your country is. Yeah. Uh, we we got worked over hard.
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  Speaker 6: By played effort, it out finished. I mean that's you know,
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  Speaker 6: like the finishing, the finishing. I've told you guys about
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  Speaker 6: how important finishing is. And you got to have that player.
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  Speaker 6: So the fact that Baligan got to play, you have
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  Speaker 6: your finisher. I mean even he when he had that
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  Speaker 6: opportunity down the left side, Yeah, and he kicks it
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  Speaker 6: right at the goalie with the right side of the
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  Speaker 6: the right side of the gold mouth wide open.
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  Speaker 2: Would that would that have manished? Two? Yeah? Is because
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  Speaker 2: that's all I wanted.
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  Speaker 5: I was just like, can somebody get a goal just
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  Speaker 5: to give me a little bit of hope here, because
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  Speaker 5: those are the worst.
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  Speaker 2: When you're playing in a big game, a do or
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  Speaker 2: die type game, and it feels.
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  Speaker 5: Like it's over almost before it starts, Like you don't
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  Speaker 5: even allow yourself to believe you had the second. You
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  Speaker 5: had that moment when Telman got the free kick, but
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  Speaker 5: after that, when you give up the goal immediately afterwards,
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  Speaker 5: I'm telling you, dude, I actually give a lot of
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  Speaker 5: credit to that crowd. It was they were like, in
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  Speaker 5: the eighty fifth minute, they're down two, and that crowd
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  Speaker 5: is We've talked about this mode. You feel it inside
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  Speaker 5: ball Arena, wa sure, like the Avs don't have the jam,
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  Speaker 5: or the Nuggets are missing shots or the Russell Wilson
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  Speaker 5: ears a mile high. When people like you feel the
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  Speaker 5: energy of the team permeating the crowd. That crowd tried
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  Speaker 5: to keep it. They tried the chance, they were screening,
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  Speaker 5: they tried everything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were just given nothing. You know, the worst
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  Speaker 2: feeling this morning.
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  Speaker 6: If you're a proud American and we could talk about
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  Speaker 6: who's more American Mark, if you want to puff your
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  Speaker 6: chest up, I'd have an American off. It was the
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  Speaker 6: worst case scenario. You're behind your team. You go through
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  Speaker 6: this little controversy, the Balligan stuff, the reversal, you have
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  Speaker 6: to hear the sanctimonious Europeans preach at you how you
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  Speaker 6: corrupt this and that.
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  Speaker 2: And then you get your ass kicked and then they
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  Speaker 2: laugh at you. Yeah, and you know, in.
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  Speaker 6: My eyes, it was an opportunity to climb the World
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  Speaker 6: Cup ladder and at least look at them as peers
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  Speaker 6: in this sport. And you can't do that because you
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  Speaker 6: got your butt kicked.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're still, We're still the little brother. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: I will still still, we're still, We're still the paddle
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  Speaker 2: on the head. All good, try good true.
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  Speaker 6: One thing I learned from this game. One thing I
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  Speaker 6: learned Europe In terms of all the teams left in
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  Speaker 6: this you're dead to me. I want none of you.
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  Speaker 6: I want you all to lose. I don't know who
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  Speaker 6: I'm pulling for. It's gonna sew on the European teams.
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  Speaker 6: All that sanctimonious, self righteous crap we had to hear
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  Speaker 6: from them, even my my parents' home country.
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  Speaker 2: You're dead to.
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  Speaker 6: Me, all of you. You're not even in the tournament,
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  Speaker 6: so shut up, the rest of you.
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  Speaker 2: You're dead.
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  Speaker 6: Well, here's your choice is Vic, No, no choices.
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  Speaker 2: We gotta go.
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  Speaker 5: You got yeah, Egypt, Yeah, Columbia. Then you have Switzerland, France, Morocco, Belgium, Spain, Norway, England.
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  Speaker 6: Someone says that's a weird direction, Vic, No, it's not
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  Speaker 6: a weird direction. No, you don't get to you don't
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  Speaker 6: get to preach at me and spew at me and
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  Speaker 6: then laugh at me, and then you want.
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  Speaker 2: Me to pull. Not doing it. What do you mean
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  Speaker 2: it's you mean to pull for England after.
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  Speaker 4: All those No, no, no, no, we're not doing that is Norway?
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  Speaker 2: Is Norway technically part of Europe. That's kind of what
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to ask.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, you're dead to me, Well, they're not attached, they're up,
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  Speaker 4: they're doing their own things.
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  Speaker 2: You're dead France, But so would say, how about France?
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  Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? You're kidding me right? Belgium, I
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  Speaker 2: hope you lose right away. England? Shut up? Ye, you
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  Speaker 2: lost in Spain?
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  Speaker 6: The hell out of here, your little chop chop game.
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  Speaker 5: I do agree with Vic on one thing, though. You
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  Speaker 5: are not allowed to preach, spew and then laugh at me.
• 11:03
  Speaker 5: And you don't get to preach. You don't preach, then
• 11:08
  Speaker 5: you cross the line. You either laugh at me or
• 11:10
  Speaker 5: you preach and spew. You don't get all three?
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  Speaker 2: Is Columbia going to beat Switzerland today?
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  Speaker 6: What is Switzerland ever done in the world? Nothing besides
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  Speaker 6: store money?
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  Speaker 4: They make good watches, done watches, watches and banks tunnel
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  Speaker 4: store money.
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  Speaker 2: What have you done? I'll help you this yesterday, I
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  Speaker 2: I I. Well, you know my family Swiss. I ain't
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  Speaker 2: going Swiss either. Did you know what has taken me?
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  Speaker 2: But do you know how many?
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  Speaker 6: How many text fights have been into with with my cousins?
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  Speaker 6: Sanctimonious crap?
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  Speaker 2: See vic If I said, worry about your own corruption?
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  Speaker 4: If Paly was still left, would you be rooting for
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  Speaker 4: Italy because the Mosures?
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  Speaker 2: The Mosures came from Switzerland.
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  Speaker 4: Ironically, an avalanche wiped out their village in the eighteen seventies,
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  Speaker 4: early eighteen seven.
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  Speaker 2: It's when they came here.
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  Speaker 6: I would not.
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  Speaker 4: I would not, Okay, I'm not roody for Switzerland.
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  Speaker 6: No way, Get that hell out of here. You get
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  Speaker 6: these weird Game of Thrones characters.
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  Speaker 2: You get out of here.
• 12:11
  Speaker 6: You got Belgium. I didn't even know where you were located.
• 12:13
  Speaker 6: I don't even know what you were till last night.
• 12:15
  Speaker 6: You got Argentina, or you get a dental plan before
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  Speaker 6: you show up in the States. Next time, get out Spain.
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  Speaker 6: I don't even know what the hell your little dances are.
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  Speaker 6: I don't care that you haven't given up a goal yet.
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  Speaker 5: Here's some famous things from Switzerland, all right, chocolates and cheeses,
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  Speaker 5: just like Belgium time pieces, Swiss watchmall told you about that,
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  Speaker 5: The Swiss army knife, that's I like those.
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  Speaker 2: I have one.
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  Speaker 5: The household items like the vegetable peeler and Velcrow fastening system. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: the red Cross.
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  Speaker 2: You know what.
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  Speaker 6: It's easy to invent stuff when you never have to
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  Speaker 6: worry about defending yourself because you don't get involved in anything.
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  Speaker 2: What what else you got?
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  Speaker 6: What else are you going to put your people on? Hey, guys,
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  Speaker 6: get off the front lines. Let's start working on Velcrow. No,
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  Speaker 6: we don't have front lines?
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  Speaker 2: What else? Chevy?
• 13:12
  Speaker 5: What Lewis Chevrolet? The founder of Chevrolet motor car company.
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  Speaker 5: He's from Switzerland.
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  Speaker 2: Wow? Huh?
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  Speaker 6: If we're talking like total losers, because that's that's how
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  Speaker 6: we need.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, this is what happens when you get humbled.
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  Speaker 5: Mosures in there no mosures Einstein developed his theory of
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  Speaker 5: relativity in burn I do know that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I got a theory of relativity. It's all
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  Speaker 6: relative to me right now. Europe is out all right,
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  Speaker 6: Argentina or Columbia or Egypt, oil.
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  Speaker 2: I can even pull from Morocco. You know.
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  Speaker 6: Morocco is the first country to recognize the US independence
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  Speaker 6: in seventy six.
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  Speaker 2: I do know that. No shout out Morocco. Shout out,
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: shout out Morocco, even though ten of their eleven players
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  Speaker 2: are not from there. That's fine, you know what. I'm
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: gonna ignore that for now. They shout out Morocco. They
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  Speaker 2: are going to get worked by France on Thursday. Worked.
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  Speaker 2: You shut your face.
• 14:05
  Speaker 5: You're gonna shut your face right now.
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  Speaker 2: You have.
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  Speaker 6: I sound you sound so you've been to France a
• 14:14
  Speaker 6: couple of times, and now you're frenchie.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: If you don't change your face, I'm gonna change it
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  Speaker 2: for you. I've been to France the million times. So
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: what do you want? What do you want? I'm calling
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  Speaker 2: for France. No no, no, no, no, no no no no.
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  Speaker 2: I've been I've been to every country. I thought you
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  Speaker 2: were American. I am, I'm look, I don't I don't
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  Speaker 2: even have to have a team from this point on.
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: Now you know what it's gonna be Morocco. And if
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: it's not Morocco, then I want Columbia. And it's because
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: of what's her face, Vic from Narcos, the hot one.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna root for her country. You're going to Columbia,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 6: Going back to Switzerland, you're list You're listing off all
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  Speaker 6: the things that Switzerland's done and the chief. Yeah, when
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  Speaker 6: your whole focus is to sit there and think about
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  Speaker 6: inventing things and you don't have to worry about defending
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  Speaker 6: anyone's honor, I could do that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that you could. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that you're a velcrow kind of guy. I
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know that you're a watch making patient with
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: the dials kind of guy.
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  Speaker 5: To be fair, we haven't defended really anything, and I
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  Speaker 5: haven't invented anything either, so.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: I understand we haven't needed to you. Yeah, and let's
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: be honest.
• 15:32
  Speaker 6: Regarding Belgium, did you ever in your life even think
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: about Belgium or did Belgium ever even come to mind
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: the thought of the country Belgium? Did you ever wake
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: up when say, oh, yeah, I gotta have some Belgium. No,
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: you know, I've been to Belgium many times.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: I'm tired of Let me explain it. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care. Let me explain Southern Belgian people pretty nice.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you who the real A holes are. Though
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  Speaker 2: you want, you want to run into a patch of
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: a patch of A holes, go to Luxembourg. There.
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  Speaker 4: Now, they're not in it, obviously, but if you want it,
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  Speaker 4: if you want a big old sack full of A holes,
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  Speaker 4: go to Luxembourg. Trust me, I don't mind picking a
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: fight with Luxembourg. I got yelled at.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 6: I never knew I had all this hatred for Belgium
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  Speaker 6: until now.
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  Speaker 2: It was deep switch sports. Still Luxembourg can kiss my tale. Belgium.
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  Speaker 2: Eh so I don't.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: I doubt you guys have read it, unless VICKI had
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: one of those mornings that you woke up in three.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I can't get through this is a book.
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: I'm reading a book, and right now this is longer
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  Speaker 6: than I know what you're talking about from what I've read.
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, seth Wickersham is great. He spent fifteen Days
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: with Sean Payton during the play.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I've got some real thoughts on this. Let's call Seth.
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: We have Seth's number. Can we get an abbreviated version
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: from him?
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we'll call him up, We'll ask him. But
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: I had Nelly because my thought was I started reading
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: this during the first break of the Appetizer because I
• 17:09
  Speaker 5: saw it on on ESPN. And then I started scrolling
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  Speaker 5: and I go, oh, there's no way I get through this.
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  Speaker 2: Before the show.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: And I said, Nellie, pull up the article behind me.
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: It was a minute and a half of him just
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: scrolling down.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: On the mouth.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: It was a minute and a half of him doing it.
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: So I did what I hate to do. That I
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: promised myself I would never do.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: I use chet Beachi chee chee. Hate that I did.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: It because I I have a little standing thing.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Uh did you tell did you tell chet Beachi?
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Just?
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: I said two sentences on this? No? No, no. I said,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: there's three parts to this article. There's three chapters.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: And I said, can you give me five ish bullet
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: points on each one of these and just tell me
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: what's going on here?
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: How do you do that?
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: By the way, you just I don't have you. I mean,
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: I'm not even trying to use how do you do that?
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: So you just say, can you summarize an article for me?
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: And they go, sure, give me a link, and then
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: you send them the link and then they.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: Literally do it. It's that fast. It's it's remarkable what
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: it can do. Again, I hate that.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: It does that because the thing it stifles our creativity
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: and it doesn't give us the chance original.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: To take over our careers in our jobs. That's what
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: you're doing.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: You're inviting them to do that.
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: Well, it still makes some mistakes. I showed Moser earlier.
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: It says, uh, where was it most oxygen? Yeah, I
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: want to get the exact sentence here though it was
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: talking about the altitude Okay, the oxygen tank theme to
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: prepare and this is where it says for Buffalo's altitude. See,
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: you still can't trust everything that you see on here. Hey,
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: if I said Peyton creates a hyper aggressive NASCAR No
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: Huddle package and orders labeled oxygen tanks to build a
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: psychological edge, that's what he did.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: So would would but would Ai? If we let's say
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: we were gone and AI took over the show. You know,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I don't know what you call Mos Lombardy and King Ai?
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: But would they would would one of the AI bots
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: get on the air and be as angry as Vic
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: today and and and squeal and moan about notre day.
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: I'm not getting into the playoff.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: For six months, thank you, honey.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: No, no, that was much different as much. No, my
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: feelings then versus now are much different.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: But could you could you train an AI bought to
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: be as pisson as you see?
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: See, I don't want you to make this mistake.
• 19:30
  Speaker 6: I'm upset today because I found out the US just
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: doesn't have the necessary skills and talent to get to.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: That next level. Yeah.
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: I was upset back in November because I knew my
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: team was just as good as most of those teams
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: in there and got denied. So don't you dare try
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: to compare the two.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: So when we come when we come back, I do
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: want to get into this wicker sham article and some
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: tidbits because I can't get through the whole thing. But
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: I'll give you something that's really interesting that I did
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: not know and I don't think anybody knew from the Buffalo
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: game and how the Broncos almost lost.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: We'll get to it next.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: All right, So long article here from Seth Wickersham on ESPN.
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: I have some cliff notes as I have done what
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: I hated to do, which is ask AI for help.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: And here's something that it pointed to that I came
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: across Sean Payton during the Broncos in Bill's game.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: He was fuming.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: If you guys remember, the biggest takeaway that I think
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: people have from that game is that the defense forced
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: five turnovers.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Which you would think, man, the defense played great. They didn't.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: The defense was actually terrible in that game. They were.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: The five turnovers. Sean Payton's fuming at the way the
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: defense is playing. They gave up four hundred and fifty
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: total yards in that game. They were the Bills ten
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: of fifteen on third down. They were one of one
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: on fourth down. The only thing that stopped them was
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: giving the ball to the Broncos.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Overtime starts. The Broncos start with the ball.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: If you guys remember, first plays, a first down to
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: Courtland Sutton, then an incompletion, a negative one yard pass,
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: an incompletion. On third down, it's fourth and eleven. They're
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: at their own thirty eight yard line. Sean Payton does
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: not trust his defense. He does not think they're gonna
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: stop Josh Allen.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: He calls a fake.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: Punt from their own thirty eight He says, I'm not
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: trusting our defense. If we give the ball to Josh Allen,
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: he's gonna drive down the field and score.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen.
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: Team lines up, the players veto the call. They don't
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: like it. They're the ones that made the decision.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: We are doing this. End up punting the ball away.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen does what deep ball over the middle that
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: ends up in the hands of j Kwan McMillan. You
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: drive down the field, game winning field goal, playoff win,
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: but called a fake punt on fourth and eleven from
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: his own thirty eight yard line in overtime. Had that happened,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: you not gotten it? Completely different story. I mean, the
• 22:10
  Speaker 5: Bills are essentially in field goal range already. A couple
• 22:13
  Speaker 5: of plays probably.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Would it would take a first down or two whatever.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: But that's how much he did not believe in his
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: defense at that time.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: So one aspect of the playoffs, there a lot of.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: This is about Wickersham being in the room as he
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: is trying to game plan for the upcoming AFC Championship game.
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: The lot in here. He was not only just in
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: that room, he was embedded with Peyton that entire week. Yeah,
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know if he was with him
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: every single minute of every day, but it feels like
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: in reading this, I mean I read the first couple
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: of pages, in some of the quotes, some of the detail.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: I mean, now you understand why the Broncos hired Sean Payton.
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: He is a detail freak. And it takes a detailed
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: kind of guy to take and move the Broncos from
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: the abyss they lived in for about a decade to
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: where they are now.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: If you if you go back, go Vic and you
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: look at that game, brett rais is a very at
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: this point.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: They should have lost the Broncos, but they didn't. They
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: know they didn't, but they were.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, Buffalo had more than one hundred yards or
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: one hundred yards more than they did. Do we remember
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: the Bills turned that ball over five times in that game?
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Five times, I know, five turnovers by Buffalo in the game.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Way more efficient on third down, I mean, way more
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: efficient in the red zone, time of possession, way more
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: It's just it's but, but but you.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Found a way to get it done.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: Here's the level of detail, and I think to Vick's point,
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: the main thing with Sean Payton is detailed, they said.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: Wickersham said when Boennick's got hurt, they were trying to
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: game plan for the AFC Championship game with Jared Stidham,
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: who had not taken a snap all year, that he
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: was getting less than an hour sleep a night, that
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: he was at the office for twenty three hours a day,
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: but the detailed level goes down to even this. He
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: brought in armed guards with five hundred thousand dollars of
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: cash stacked up on each other to remind them what
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: they're playing for, which was a lot of money, he
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: said to the players. Secondly, he was going through the
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: game film and he saw somebody wore sleeves, and he said,
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: he hates sleeves and it's not for the tough guy persona.
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: It's that itting. He thinks it's too slippery and it
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: causes fumbles. So he calls Jerry Rice. Jerry Rice doesn't answer,
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: He leaves him a voicemail, and minutes later, Jerry Rice
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: calls back and says to the team, it's exactly what
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: he said, I fumbled wearing sleeves.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I vowed I would never do that again.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: That's why none of the Broncos players wore sleeves during
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: the AFC Championship game. So it's that level of detail
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: that he gets down to. Now again, it's impossible for
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: us to comb through all.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Of this before the end of the show.
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: I've got a couple that I've read so far that
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: I found very interesting.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Can I go through them?
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is nothing new. When you're a coach in
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: any of these respective sports. You can ask coach our
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: own coach when he comes in Sanford, your diet, your
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: health is not exactly ideal. Right, he drinks, according to
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: Seth Wickersen. But what he told Seth during the day,
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: his hands are shaking, and Seth notice his hands are
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: shaking and he's trying to hold a pen in his phone,
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: and he asks why you're handshaking, and he said it's
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: a combination of health and medication and the fact that
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: he drinks during the season ten cochs per day.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: To in the morning. Forty minutes later, I'm regretting it.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Ten ten cochs per day.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: So he doesn't go through all of them, but that's
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: Yousually what he pours outs, that's what it says, ten
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: cokes per day. Now, you remember Nikola Jokic would drink
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: those leaders of coke and then he stopped drinking that
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: and blah blah blah. But I imagine the health factor in
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: a playoff run for a guy like Sean Payton and
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: why he's shaking it cannot be good. Other detail, always
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: in a bad mood, he says, the focus on meeting.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: No. No.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: The thing that angered him after the beating Buffalo. They
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: won the game was the defense, but the fact that
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: Jordan Jackson, a little known defensive tackle who he vouched for,
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: who he made sure was active on the team roster
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: that week, did not get a single snap. And he
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: barked at his defensive assistance as to why they would
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: allow Jordan Jackson to go through an entire game and
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: not play, especially since they got gutted in the run game.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: He was so mad about that.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: One of the details. The other detail, whenever he holds
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: a meeting that office, he keeps temperature the thermostat at
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: sixty eight degrees because he read somewhere that's how people
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: are most alert.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Huh, Can I.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Can I can I jump in here. I'm gonna listen
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: to mostly. I haven't had time, obviously, Brett, to read
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: that whole thing. I saw it.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: You got your chet cheepichi check pia chee doing your speechee.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: When I saw the length of this article, the first
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: thing that came to my mind is this, not that
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: there's probably some cool stuff in there, and learn some stuff.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: I don't need to know that much about Sean Payton.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: You already know who he is.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: I don't need I don't need his how many coffees
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: are cokes. I know he's a detail freak. I know
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: he's pissed off all the time. I know I glean
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: these things. I know he can be a bit antsy, snappy.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: I don't the size of the Wickersham article, and God
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: bless Seth for having the ability and the mindset to
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: write something like that. I don't need to know that
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: much about anything in my life.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I'm on, yeah, exactly, I don't.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: I don't need twenty seven pages on Sean Payton.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: I'm reading it right now. I'm reading it as you're
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: think it's awesome. I don't understand what you're mad about here.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just for me personally. There's not a
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: human on the planet that I want to know that
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: that much about it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're you're you're you're talking dumb to your
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: to me, I'm talking, you're talking like.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: You really are?
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: You mean every day? No, no, you shut up for
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: we spend every day wondering who these guys are. We
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: talk about what makes them tick.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: Somebody comes up with a great piece on and you're
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: saying I don't care.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: I mean, what are you No, I'm not saying I
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: don't Somebody wrote that much on Jared Bednar. Would you
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: read it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm not saying I don't care. What I'm saying
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: is I don't care that much. I don't care enough
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: to Okay, can I give you this, Yeah, but I'm
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: just saying that this it's it's overkilled.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: In my opinion.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: Okay, So let me give you this though, because Adam
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: Schefter took this little tidbit from the story, I haven't
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: gotten there yet. Here's what Schefter pointed out from this article.
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: Sean Payton was hired I believe in twenty twenty three,
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: right twenty twenty three, when Belichick and the Patriots divorced
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four. Sean Payton considered presenting Broncos owner
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: Greg Penner with a proposal for the Ages hire Belichick
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: as head coach until he reached fifteen wins enough to
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: break Don Shula's career record of three hundred and forty seven.
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: Peyton would temporarily step down as assistant head coach and
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: run the offense, then move back after Belichick became the
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: all time leader. In the end, it was too complicated
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: and maybe too fanciful. Let me tell you something that
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: sounds like a dumb idea.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I imagine it sounds ridiculous that you're just going to
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: give Belichick head coaching duties until he gets to fifteen
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: wins and then it's all take back off.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. That just sounds silly.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Incidentally, Vic, you may spend the rest of your day
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: with your Lavern and tirlely Cup and read this thing
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: from Seth wickershim. I probably will too, but I can
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: guarantee you that Brett Kane is doing a great service
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: to all of our listeners and viewers, because.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Ain't nobody reading that whole thing I am.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, ain't nobody besides you, maybe Sean Payton himself,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: his family ain't gonna read that.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: That's fine.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: Listen, if you want to come on a radio show
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: and spout to everyone that you don't want to read
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: and you don't want, you don't care to.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Know the details, nick yourself out by all means, Brett Tom,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: I'll read. Just tell me what I need to know.
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: Here's the other thing that he does that is a
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: detail oriented, just unreal. On Mondays, after every NFL weekend,
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: Sean Payton combs through every touchdown scored in.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: The NFL and he marks down on a legal notepad
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: player or play.
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: In other words, was the touchdown score because of a
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: great player making a player? Or was it scored because
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: of a great play that way was drawn up. If
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: it's player, he ignores it, he skips it. If it's
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: a great play that's called, he moves it into a
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: folder where he can carve out his own ideas on
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: how to replicate it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I'm find that extreme.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: I do that the Yeah, that's just I don't know
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: what gene that is that you gotta have.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: I don't have it. I couldn't get detail. Yeah, that
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: the detail that to be that detail oriented.
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: Well, it's just like anybody who's successful at whatever, Like
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: we talk about it all the time athletes sports. The
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: ten thousand rule, you have to do something ten thousand
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: times and this is.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: This applies to that.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: Right, you have to put up five hundred jump shots
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: to be a good jump shooter.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Right, it has to happen.
• 32:16
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• 32:18
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• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he seeks inspiration from around all various forms
• 32:23
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for this, all right.
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  Speaker 4: I saw this fascinating article by Wes Seth Wickersham about
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I do have something on Jokic that I want
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: to talk about it. Okay, keep him off, because he's
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: just gonna yell at me. Yes, I'm sorry, go ahead.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: Brett Jokic in Serbia yesterday was talking to the medium.
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: Wait, no, we can't discuss it because he doesn't want
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: any details that are from any We shouldn't discuss.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Let's just make crap up this morning. It's it's not relevant.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: Jokic was speaking to the media yesterday. I have long
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: been in this place.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: I think two of the bigger stories surrounding the Nuggets
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: offseason to most people are the ones. I'm the least
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: worried about. The Jokic extension stuff has from the jump
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: been something I'm like, whatever, he'll sign it eventually. The
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: other one is Peyton Watson and that one's a little
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: bit more interesting. But to the Jokic part, he didn't
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: sign his extension.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: Is he holding the team hostage? Is he threatening them?
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: Is he gonna retire? Does he want to move to
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: Los Angeles, and I thought forever.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you know what Jokic is doing.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: He's probably enjoying his offseason. He knows no matter what
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: happens to him, he could be in a coma and
• 35:10
  Speaker 5: they will still offer him a MAX contract beyond that.
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: And now, by waiting, he said, quote, my idea is
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: to sign next summer and stay with Denver for the
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: rest of my career. He gets, first of all, more
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: money by waiting. Second of all, he gets an extra
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: year by waiting. All of this is just Jokic and
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: somebody texted this in the appetizer.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I think this is true.
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: I don't think people are used to a basketball player
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: being as genuine as Yokich is.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: You know what this reveals to me, by him passing
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: on signing it this summer and waiting till next summer,
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: it gives me, I don't know if you notice this,
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: It gives us all an expiration date and how long
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: he plans on playing.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that he's like, thirty seven sounds about right,
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: exactly right, exactly right.
• 35:59
  Speaker 6: He did the math, and I did the math up
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: to now, do you know how much money Nicole Jokich
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: is made playing for the Nuggets in the National Basketball.
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Sois hundreds of millions, three hundred five million dollars. There
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: you go.
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: Do you know how much he will have made if
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: he continues the way he's going right now and he
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: realizes his goal of playing until the age of thirty seven,
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: six hundred, that would put him in the season two thousand,
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: thirty one and thirty two, that would be his farewell season.
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: If things hold, he will have made playing for the
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: Denver Nuggets in the NBA seven hundred and twenty five
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: million dollars three quarters of a billion dollars.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Cool. Happy to have him. That's crazy.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: But when you people will still look at that and
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: they'll go, well, that's his idea, doesn't he He's going
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, he's a nugget for life.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: The only question is, like you said, Vic being intuitive here,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: he's basically telling you, Okay, I'll sign the last big
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: in and then I'm gonna ride off into the sunset horse.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: That's basically what it is.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: So you've got till he's thirty seven to win at
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: least one more title.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I tell what you got? Is he holding the Nuggets hostage? No?
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: But if you think there's a zero percent chance that
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: he wouldn't be interested in leaving this team if we
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: have another terrible disappointing end the next season, you guys
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: are not only naive but straight up nuts.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, he will probably stay, but it's not a zero.
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: Percent chance he wouldn't consider leaving. I mean, I suppose
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: nothing is a zero percent or one hundred percent chance.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: You say that about every player in the NBA. But
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: here's what I am telling you. If I had to
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: put my money on one player in the NBA to
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: stay on on one team for the rest of his life,
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: it's him. Yeah, it's him.
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he breaks the mold when it comes to what
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: NBA players tend to do.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: He's not the same.
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: He just perhaps he doesn't have the same intent. I
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: don't know, but the intent is pretty obvious to me.
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: He's trying to make as much money.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: As he can. Did you see him hooping in or
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: over Europe? Ye? It looks yeah, looks gret.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: Jokic has never had and I want people to like
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: know this and be clear on this. Jokich has never
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: that I've heard, had something that he said out loud
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: that he hasn't meant never. He is not pushing ulterior motives.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: He's not trying to move the chess pieces behind the scenes.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: He has been a genuine person whenever he has addressed
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: a situation. And when it comes to playing for one team,
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: he said repeatedly that he he looks at Dirk Novitski's
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: career and he thinks that's how it should be. One
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: guy playing in one place for his career. You go
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: through some bad times, you hope to reach the ultimate
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: goal again, all of that, and and.
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: I think what people don't understand because you get lost
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: in the millions, right, your eyes glaze over. You know,
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: what's what's the difference between seventy two million and eighty million? Well,
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: I can tell you what the differences eight million dollars.
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: And I'm gonna tell you right now. He wants the money.
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: And there's nothing wrong with saying that, And there's nothing
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: wrong with believing that he wants as much money as
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: he possibly can. And he can get most of that
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: money by playing with the Nuggets. If he signs with
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: another team, he loses out on money.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Sure, Vic, I think of his game, and again, I
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: was watching those highlights from Europe. I don't like that
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: basketball that's partly white. I don't like that ball though,
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: like just I like our ball.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like the ABA type.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: No, not really, I do, do you It's always you
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: know what, because I'm well, never mind, He's gonna tell
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: you my hoops dream story, but I'm not doing that.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: But when I watch his game, I'm thinking of myself. Okay,
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: So let's say at thirty seven he wants.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: To ride off into the sunset.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: I think he's going to be the same guy at
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: the age of thirty seven. I think the way his
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: game is it just that game does not it doesn't
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: drop off, you know what I mean.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: That game just stays the same game. Yeah, until he
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: feels like he doesn't want to play anymore. This is
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, does that make sense? Does that make sense?
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: It makes it makes sense.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: So as far as the money is concerned, Vic, I'm
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: right there with you, man.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: He wants his money.
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: He's gonna be owed his money and do his money,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: and he's gonna earn his money because he's gonna be
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: the same guy though.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: The entire time. This is great.
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: This is the way I put it with him though,
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: And this is what makes I just don't think people
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: can wrap their heads around an NBA player that has
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: this mentality because we've seen so many of them that
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: are in charge of the team, like Kawhi has been
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: in charge of the Clippers for years. Lebron's been in
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: charge of whatever team that he's played for, and that
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: means you either tell the team go and get this player,
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: or you tell them trade away this guy, or get
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: rid of this coach, or hire this coach, or draft
• 40:58
  Speaker 5: this guy or whatever.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Players have been.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: Doing that in the NBA forever, and I don't think
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: their mind computes. Jokic has and correct me if I'm wrong. Here, Vic,
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: you're around him way more than most people, and I
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: think you'll know what I'm talking about. Moj He's got
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: a hockey player mentality despite being an NBA superstar, which
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: is he looks at himself as an employee.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: He's not the guy who runs the show. He's like,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: I'm an employee who's here to do my job. This
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: is my job.
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: Playing basketball is my job. Figuring out the roster is
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: somebody else's job.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: You could not be more accurate.
• 41:36
  Speaker 6: He doesn't see himself the way some of these other
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: players do as a guy who has to play puppeteer,
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: and he's just not that dude. He doesn't want to
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: be that dude.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: He wants to show up to work, do what makes
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: him best, and take take home as much money as
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: he can.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, which is exactly what he's going to do through
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: the year twenty thirty two.
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: A Texas says this, and this is maybe a better
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: way to put it. How many times do you have
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: to say the same things and follow through before people
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: believe him?
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: No, and it's so true, it's not but it's not us.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: It's not people here in Denver. It's the well if
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: it is right now, But it's even with yesterday's statement,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: what if? What if he retires? But what if?
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: How many times you have to for the for the
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: what if he retires? Crowd, listen to me, look at me,
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: look at my face? How many times do I have
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: to tell you? You may think you know this guy, and
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: you may think he doesn't value money or doesn't care
• 42:35
  Speaker 6: about money.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: He wants his money.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what there wants his money. I think the
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: one thing we can put the bed. Yo ain't taken
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: discounts to help the team. He's gonna get his cash. No, no,
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: this is not See he's not married.
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: He he's not emotional about it like some players get
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: emotional about their legacies. They get emotional about the winning
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: and losing. That emotion is not part of his makeup. Yeah,
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: you're exactly right. He is an employee of the corporation
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: and he's been told that he can make so and
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: so he will take as much as he can.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind that he wants to
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: win another title, two, three, as many as he can
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: before he's done playing. But at the same time, when
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: you have one and you can open up that little
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: box and that ring that is a and for him
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: the trophy, what are the auto what do you call
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: those things? Transformer? When the ring is a transformer championship
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: transformer ring, it sings and dances and all that kind
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: of thing, and you can hang your hat on that.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: It makes getting your bread a lot of ease here, Sure,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I mean he does.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: If perhaps he hadn't won yet, VIC, maybe you're like, well,
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: he'll take seventy per instead of eighty. Get your bread,
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: get your bread, get your horses, and have a great life.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: You've done it all.
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: This is the other thing, you have to understand why
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: he's not going to take less money. Nikola Jokicic hates,
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: despises doing anything endorsement wise. He only does a couple
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: like how many commercials have you seen him in?
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Two? And he's got shoes right in. He doesn't do
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: that stuff.
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: So for the crowd that says, well, he can make
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: up the money in the endorsement route, that's just not
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: who he is. He's about making the money that's owed
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: to him and he's playing in a sport right now
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: where the money is stupid. Today, folks, if you haven't
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: heard the news, Donovan Mitchell was given his max extension
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: four years, two hundred and seventy two million dollars. He
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: will make at the most one season, seventy five and
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: a half million dollars a season. I'm gonna ask you
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: a question. I respect and admire Donovan Mitchell. Are you
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: kidding me with.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: This successive Yeah? I mean, just take a step back.
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: Donovan Mitchell is a good player. He's okay, seventy five
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: and a half million dollars and you wonder why the
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: NFL's system is broken.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what that kind of cash I think
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: I could get.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: A boat with a boat. You certainly could do that.
• 45:14
  Speaker 6: Now if you asked Tonova Mitch of this question, because
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: everybody talks about legacy and championships and said, hey.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: We will give you it. You will.
• 45:21
  Speaker 6: You will be guaranteed a championship ring in exchange four
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: seventy five and a half million dollars one of those seasons.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: You think he'd do it, No, I don't. I don't know.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You think Joker would do it? Yes,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: no he would. No no, no no no. If he
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: hadn't if he hadn't won, if he hadn't won, I
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: don't think you would.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: I will back I said, if I hadn't won, I
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: would I want at least one.
• 45:48
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• 45:49
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