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95. Build a 90's and 2000's Pro Wrestling Stable · Notable Nostalgia

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What it is a good business. Yeah, it's a good business. Wouldn't
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be in if it wasn't. Why isn't it good? Because only the tough
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survibe that's reading. You ain't in it. And this punk holding the camera
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reading, he ain't in it. Reading he's read next out here, ain't
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in it because it's a tough business. That's terrific. What is that all
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you got? I'll ask you the standard question, you know, standard question.
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I think it's a fake. Do you think it's fake? What the
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hell's wrong with you? That's open hand slap? Huh? Do you think
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it's thank you? I'm Ali, I'm Andy, I'm Jeff, and I'm
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Ria and this is notable nostalgia? What's that? Nostalgia? Nerds? Welcome
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to another electrifying episode of notable nostalgia. Unfortunately we don't have jeffer Ria with
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us today, but we are joined by the three time heavyweight world champion,
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Ryan the Dude Di Lorenzo. What's up? Man? I wanted to be
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Razor Ramone because I was thinking this would be because you've been on this is
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your fourth time being on, right, I think so? Yeah? So
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you've so three time champion? You know, Oh yeah, well played,
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Thank you, thank you. Technically you should be the undisputed champion of notable
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nostalgia since you never not on every episode. Yeah, you're batting a thousand.
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Impressive, it really is. So the reason I wanted to kind of
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do this wrestling episode is for a few reasons. One, we all grew
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up love wrestling. We all grew up loving wrestling. To the success of
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the most recent WrestleMania at six hundred and sixty million views over the two days,
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which is crazy uh. And third is Ali just did something super duper
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dope. Ali's coming off the success of a sold out comedy show called Punchlines
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and Pile Drivers. I was wondering, could you talk about that a little
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bit, tell the listeners what it was and if they have another one to
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look forward to you anytimes? Sure? Yeah. So last year I took
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a risk and I booked a theater in Portland and then six months later we
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put on a show called Punchlines and Pile Drivers and it combines the roast battle
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of stand up comedy with professional wrestling, specifically with promos. So I invited
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eight comedians. They created their own wrestling characters in personas and then they all
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cut promos against each other in a tournament until we crowned the champion. So
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it's pretty cool. We got a championship belt, like it's legit, like
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it's a real belt. It's like eight pounds, it's it's a pretty big
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deal. And we had and I play like sort of the mean Gene Okerlin
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type, so I like I stand between the two and I like interview them
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and talk about like the match they're going to have. Then they cut promos
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against each other. I had like actual indie professional wrestlers come in and vote
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who would win, and so yeah, yeah, it was really great.
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It was a huge success. The crowd was wild. It was really fun.
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They were chanting and do what they were in the whole thing. So
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that was fun. And the next one is October twenty fifth. It's a
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Friday. It's a curious comedy annex and if you're in Portland or the Northwest
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and you want to see it, that's gonna show number two. And the
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best way to follow me is on Instagram at Ali j is Gay and there
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I'll be announcing that and I'll be showing like links to footage from the first
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one, so you could actually get a chance to see what the first one
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was like once I get it all edited and up. Yeah, it's gonna
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be not miss Like the Annex theater is really cool. It's got like stadium
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style seating, so it'll be like like full like ring style view of our
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competitors, and uh yeah, it's gonna it's it's it's really cool. I'm
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just really like pleased with how the how it came out, and I'm excited
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for the next one. And after this one, we're gonna do it every
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three months. You'd be really cool if you did a dress up thing for
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the audience, because I know who I'm dressing up as. It's real to
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me, damn it. Yeah, I like, I hope it gets the
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point where like people make signs and are like, you know, we're gonna
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like out promos before so people can see what our characters are like and like,
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you know, show up and root for the person you want. So
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that's co. Yeah, that's such a good idea. I love it.
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Yeah, it's super fucking genus. But let's talk a little bit about wrestling
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when we were children and how like important it was so all start just because
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I'm talking and why not. So for me, wrestling was almost as the
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same as the Simpsons because I moved around so much. No matter where I
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was, you could still watch wrestling and it was still relevant. And everybody
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in my age group, doesn't matter when I lived in Virginia or Oregon or
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Florida, wherever I lived, everybody that I hung out with, we all
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watched wrestling. So the next day, on Tuesday, after Monday Night nightro
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or whatever it might be, Monday Night Raw all talk about it. And
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I remember there was one episode where the giant had like handcuffs on and he
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broke them off, and then the teacher was gonna tell us how that happened,
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but then people were getting rowdy and he goes, oh, I guess
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I'm not gonna tell you guys now. And I think about that probably like
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once a month to this day. His name was mister Clifton, and I
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was in fourth grade, and I still to this day. I mean,
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I know different ways of getting them off. You know, they could have
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been fake or whatever, maybe, but I just wish, I wish I
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knew what his explanation was. So, but yeah, wrestling was huge on
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huge to me. I loved it. I watched it every week. I
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had the toys, video games, all that good stuff. Video games were
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unreal, so good, so good? What about your del I got?
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So what's crazy is? I barely remember this, but my dad and I
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used to watch it when I was real little, like I'm talking maybe five
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years old, Like he took me to Memorial Coliseum and this is back when
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they had that wrestler to Tanka. Was that his name? Yeah? And
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then I remember the Undertaker coming out because the lights went out. I'm pretty
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sure maybe it was just the it's coming on to start the show. I
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don't know, but I thought. I feel like it was the Undertaker.
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But I have almost no memory of it, but I know it happened,
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and so I was locked in from the start. Like I said, I
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had all the action figures, I had the toys. I remember I would
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try to sneak on my TV in my room to wrestling because my mom would
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make me go to bed. And it didn't into like ten or eleven,
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I was like, what the hell? So yeah, I got in trouble
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a bunch on Mondays and I just wanted to watch it. I only got
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a few pay per views when I was a kid, but they were all
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bangers somehow, Like I am pretty sure I watched the Mankind Undertaker Hell in
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the Cell, which is one of the best matches ever, and I'm pretty
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sure I watch it live. And like the Stone Cold Sean Michael's thing with
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Mike Tyson, I remember that vividly, and so yeah, I was just
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locked in love WCW two. Those were the days. Yeah, but I
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did just watch this last WrestleMania at least, like I watched pretty much all
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the heights, but I watched the Cody Rhodes Roman reigns match and it was
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fucking really awesome. That's cool. Yeah. No, my daughter went to
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CWW a few months ago and I've never seen it live, and then she's
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like, well, I'm a little nervous, I don't know anybody, and
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she's like, she's like, hands down, she goes, there's one of
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the most fun she's ever had. So I guess seeing it live regardless is
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amazing. Allie, what about you? What about your background with wrestling?
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Yeah, it was introduced to me like very early in my childhood. So
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I remember, like at a very young age having like the wrestling buddies,
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you know, like the big stuffed animals talking about I had Ultimate Warriors.
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I had Ultimate Warrior and who yeah, I had a whole Cogan and a
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macho man and uh so watching that growing up, I played WWF Royal Rumble
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in the sn e s like NonStop, and then uh you know, I
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I became more of a w c W kid, but still watched WWE.
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I think my like my favorite wrestler at the time growing up was Goldberg just
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because I also played football, so like Goldberg was like, oh, this
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makes sense and kind of like just out of you know, mocked had to
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stop watching it, like at some point you had to grow up and stop.
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That's what I felt like. The same there was but also around like
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what seventh eighth grade right around there, yea, yeah, like it was
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like not well and that and that was like towards the end of Stone Cold,
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It's like really good run. And then he was mostly I feel like,
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just cutting promos after that, like the whole era when every time he
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says something, they go, what, that's the most annoying fucking thing ever.
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I'm glad I got out before that got to piss me off. I
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do. I am bummed out because I missed like the Rise of John Cena.
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That would have been sick like I didn't. I like tuned in every
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once in a while after we got older, but I was long. Yeah.
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Anyways, I got back into it in like twenty eighteen, and I
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I follow AW regularly. I there's a really good indie promotion that's based out
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of Portland. But if you like, if you have access to independent Wrestling
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TV, you can watch Prestige really good. I do follow w B by
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like just watching pay per views, but I really don't like the product,
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and then uh yeah, I try to keep up with New Japan and some
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others as well. If I had the like more funds and stuff, i'd
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probably like follow more religiously because there's some really good independent ones out there,
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and I'd love to find GCW, but they like they require their own specific
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service and it's annoying. Wow, what's that. I've never heard of them?
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GCW. They just have like like a lot of the best of the
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indie wrestlers on and they do I don't know, they do funny stuff,
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they do some hardcore like ECW style stuff. You know. ACW seemed a
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little too violent for member watching it. I was like, ah, this
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is getting a little too flad sometimes. When I started breaking out the barbier
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shits, I was like, what the fuck are y'all? Y'all need to
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relax? Yeah, so Andy, what do we what are our listeners have
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in store today? What do they want to? What are they gonna hear?
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What? What are we doing? Yeah, so we thought it'd be
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kind of fun if we did a wrestling draft. So what I'm gonna do
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is, I'm gonna make my own stable with four wrestlers. Uh, and
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we're gonna pick a manager as well. And the way we're gonna pick out.
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The way we're gonna pick who goes first, second, or third is
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Alli has a wheel. We're gonna spin it and whoever lands on goes first
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and the second time go second. And we're gonna do a snake draft.
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So if you're not sure what a snake draft is, it goes one two
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three three two one and that's the order. So everybody, it's kind of
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a fair background. Yeah, alrighty, so let's spin the wheel of pain
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for who whoever it lands on goes first. Oh, do you have like
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our faces on it? Because that would be pretty fucking nating. You're all
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ready for number one? You all ready for this first? Oh that's super
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sick. I don't like that. I'm yellow, but well yeah, all
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right, so picking first is stop? You fucking deal gets to go first?
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You let you get first? All right? Yeah? All right,
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you say, Lady Fortune. Yeah that's me all right, Andy. Oh
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that's such a cool I kind of wanted to. I want that app so
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bad, damn it. I got three fuckre is good though. All right,
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that means you get three and four. That's true, And I'm taking
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your first round pick. By the way, I hope you don't you know
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I am, because I'm taking yours. Maybe the most notable nostalgia apple.
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You are lucky live a chimp packed French cost right on h Nashville, Tennessee.
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I cannot wait for this match today right now. It's gonna be insane.
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So the first person coming out right now, I think you can hear
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it. Here we go making his entrance is the seven foot four inches,
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five hundred and twenty pound mammoth Andrew the lax that have Livesey. The scariest
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thing about him, he's the size of the giant. It has the agility
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and the moves of raym mystereo. This is gonna be crazy. Oh,
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be careful coming to the ring next. It's artificial intelligence, Allie. The
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scariest thing about them is they know your moves before you do. Yeah,
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and their special move the algorithm. Oh don't get me started. Its one
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hit a quarter with that one. I can't believe it. Who do we
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up next? And entering the ring? Right now, we have a six
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foot four, two hundred and fifty pound monster, Ryan the Dude Di Lorenzo.
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This guy has the most devastating finishing move in all of wrestling. Once
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he gets you in the bong ripper, it's lights out, Pal, I'm
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bumping in the Bobby Blonde pissed test. With the first pick of the Wrestler's
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Draft, I select Sting. You're just well, I'm gonna take that off
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my list. That was gonna be your first pick too, wasn't it.
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Yeah, that was definitely gonna be my first pick. And I have a
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strategy and I'll explain it later, but that's a very very solid pick.
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Yeah, I'm real happy about it, and now I have a really I
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really need my second pick to be there. But anyway, we'll work around.
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When Sting was doing the crow thing, it was like the sickest thing
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of all time. Yeah, I think that was sorry it was a single.
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Yeah, you were scared of him, even though you know he wasn't
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gonna beat you up. And I've probably told the story on the pod,
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but I have one of my favorite stories of elementary school. I was in
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third grade and we had to write some story about I don't know something,
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and mine was just a typical dumb third grade story to where like, all
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these ninjas break in and I have to beat them up or something I don't
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know, but Sting comes and helps me. But my teacher, of course,
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wasn't falling wrestling, so she thought I meant the bassist from the police,
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you know, Gordon Sting, the singer, So she was like,
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oh, that's really cool. But then question mark Sting, so I just
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love in her and she's like, Wow, this little ten year old like
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really likes eighties music. I guess it has a Sting helping him out fight
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ninjas. But yeah, no, Sting is one of the coolest I think
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personas of all time. Absolutely, And then when they switch it to the
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red face paint, Oh yeah, that was so fucking cool. Mm hmmmm.
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So sorry about your luck, Andy, but I select Sting Dang.
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That's wild, Delo. What about memories? Is that what you were thinking?
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No, it wasn't, but who oh, okay, well what are
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some memories of Sting d Loo for you? Oh? God? Just being
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in the rafters in general. I remember when that turn happened. It was
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because Lex Luger bailed on him, right, I remember correctly something like that.
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I don't really remember exactly what brought on. I'm pretty sure that's how
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it was. And then that's like what turned him. And then that's when
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like the fucking crow look happened. And then I saw the movie The Crows,
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like this is cool, but it made me think of Sting the whole
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time. But uh, like him just popping out like one of the favorite,
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my favorite things. That's the meme of him taking off the mask and
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it's staying underneath. That's so cool, that whole that whole thing. I
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remember watching that live. Anytime he did anything, it was dope and he
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just seemed immortal. Yeah, it's like he it was a ghost and it
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was fucking coolest shit. And and the way to every episode when you're watching
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WCW, You're like, it's Sting gonna be somewhere and you're like looking at
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the rafters during the wrestling match. I it's gonna be there, right,
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And the fact he's still doing it is fucking nuts. But like, he
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had cool moves. The Stinger splash in the corner was fucking badass. Uh
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what was the scorpion death drop? That like reverse DDT and it's just ah,
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And then he did a sharp shoe what do you call it? The
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scorpion luck? I think is that right? Oh? Yeah, but yeah,
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one of my Sting was the coolest and he was the coolest toy to
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have too because he just looked so fucking awesome. Yeah. One of my
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earliest memories is him versus Rick Flair. They had three rings going on.
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It was a pay per view and it was just such a good match between
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those two. I remember when w CW would do cool ship like that.
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That was the triple fucking ring with the cage was so bad ass. Yeah,
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Sting Sting like just fucking ruled, like back in the day that he
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I had one of those masks and that fucking commercial I don't remember which like
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what it's for It was like it was either like Sprite or like a video
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game. But Sting shows up at that kid's house and he like just beats
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the ship out of this little kid. That's fun, just beats that like
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smashes the kid's face in the wood and stuff. Like my favorite meme,
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one of my favorite memes ever, is there's this picture of George Costanzo and
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he's holding a baseball bat and he's like really smug. It's all like nWo
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shows up and then it's just like staying like holding a bat, like really
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funny. But yeah, it was kind of comical. Like it it's weird
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how many fucking times that Sting crashed the nWo and just obliterated like twelve men,
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you know what I mean, Like I think that's what made it.
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I mean, it's a kid. It's always awesome, right, it was
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so awesome. You know. Stings had a pretty long lasting career. His
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last match was like two months ago, and it was actually very good.
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It was pretty well done, so if you watch it, it's it's pretty
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cool. But yeah, Sting's Brad. It's a great choice and it's kind
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of a dick move to take him knowing that Andy really wanted him. So
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oh, but it's threat or it's a triple threat match here, so I
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know my next pick's not coming around for me. So that's the only thing
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that says I was hoping i'd be like two and just I don't know whatever
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probably gonna be going regarding right well, now I'm wondering if like, do
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I just like do some goats or do I like try to do a stable
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of some kind. Yeah, I had to ask Andy what the plan was
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because he worded it to me. I had to ask inconstructions like three or
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four teen. Yeah, I felt like an idiot. I think I'm going
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to try to go with a stable and a theme. Okay, So before
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and before Andy gets to pick two, all right, I think I think
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I am going to do Stone Cold Steve Austin. Okay, I knew one
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of you two when I wasn't sure. Okay, And and then I'm hoping
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that the rest of the people I wanted to be around. Stone Cold is
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easily like the most recognizable and famous pro wrestler of all time, prolific wrestler
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like did Japanese wrestling and really great technical You know what if he needed to
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be, but then just didn't have to be through most of his career.
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One of the best promos ever, like legitimately, like just can cut a
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promo like no other. Just the attitude, the aura. I mean that
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Austin three sixteen promo where Austin three sixteen comes from. You all know the
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backstory of that one? Oh yeah, absolutely. I was just gonna say,
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that's the best fucking single promo there is in my opinion. What's the
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backstory of it? Though he was fighting Jake the Snake, and Jake the
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Snake was talking about he like became really religious and so he started, you
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know, doing like the John six three sixteen, and that's when Stone Cold
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just whooped his ass, sent him out getting carried out, and then fucking
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drop that legendary promo. You should play it right now. I'll play it
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now. The first thing I want to be done is to get that piece
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of cramp out of my ring. Don't just get about the ring kidding out
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of the w w alf, but comes up proof son without a shadow on
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my God, you ain't got what it takes anymore. You sit there and
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you thump your Bible and you say your prayers and it didn't get you anywhere.
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Talk about your sobs, talk about John three sixteen. Austin three sixteen
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says, I just whipped your ass. Oh that was dope. But for
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him to like, uh, you know, kind of like counterculture religion in
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the nineties is pretty big deal, which is kind of cool. I do
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agree that what era is really kind of dumb. However, there are some
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very funny moments of that era of stone Colds. Steve Austin I particularly like
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even though the Lance Archer is like great, Like the promo that that Stone
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Cold puts on him where he tells him he's boring is one of the like
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fun things ever. But I love him. He can be goofy, he
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can be funny, he can be like a complete badass, he can be
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intimidating, really cool move set. I love the Stone Cold stunner. I
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love the luth As Press that he does. Luth As Press is fucking awesome.
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The kicks in the corner like he he went hard and it was fun
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to watch. So I think I feel pretty good. Yeah, I never
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got into Stone Cold. I just I've never really liked rednecks, so like
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that whole thing about me. I was like, ah, but I cannot
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deny how important I think he was to wrestling as a whole and how great
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of a character it was. But for me, Stone Cold was always a
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heel huh like it never once was not a heel. Now he just is
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like on his ranch with his cat. I know he was supposed to be
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in the fucking the WrestleMania, but he didn't want to do it. They
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couldn't work it out. So that's why I take it was that one sucked
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anyway. You didn't like it, Oh it was trash. Oh, I
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enjoyed it. I got goosebumps for the first time watching wrestling since I was
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a kid. It was fucking sick if Stone Cold would have came out and
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flipped out. But the other thing about Stone Cold he was he'd played heel
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or face perfect. Yeah, just like, no matter what the angle was,
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he did. And he has some of the funniest things, like the
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fucking uh was the bedpan to the head of Vince McMahon and the doctor's office,
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The fucking way that thing hit his head made that sound you can hear
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it now, and it was just so fucking good. There's this really great
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promo where like, uh, it's like Stone Cold, Undertaker, Kurt Angle,
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a few other guys. They're all in the back and Vincent Man's trying
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to give him a pep talk, and uh, everything that vincemcman's saying,
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Austin repeats and says it to Undertaker, and the Undertaker is like, so
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close to losing it. It's so funny. Can can't Undertaker? Undertaker?
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We do have a deal. We got a deal. Can Stone Cold shut
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up? Whether we like it or not, whether we like each other or
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not, it doesn't, it doesn't matter, It don't matter. Going into
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invasion, invasion, we're breathing down our necks, breathing down our necks.
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They're breathing in to do that talk. They'll pick us apart out there,
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pick us apart. I want a commitment from we're gonna support each other,
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support each other. It's five on five, five on five? What are
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you going to do with this? And the risk are just I'm in come
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in, turn him into together. Is the old expression united, we stand,
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Divided, we fall. Yeah, I've seen that from It's a lot
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of fun. So, yeah, cool, that's awesome. Yeah, uncles,
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all right, Uh so I get you pick how many picks do it.
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It doesn't matter how many picks I get, because I am picking the
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most electrifying man and sports entertainments of all yeah, just of all time.
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I am picking Duayne the Rock Johnson Small what the Rock. I thought he
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was so cool, even his heel days. I don't think he was a
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heel because he was so pompous the entire time. He was great. I
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I you know, I don't think he was a very good wrestler. His
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moves were all pretty basic, but I think his charisma added so much to
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the whole rock experience that, yeah, you know what, he didn't need
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to be the best wrestler when you are the rock. Well, and he
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had the best cells. Oh yeah yeah. Uh. Just seeing him at
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WrestleMania was fucking dope. And just having him just talking shit to the fucking
24:45
crowd again is so cool. Seeing the clips on like Twitter, Instagram,
24:48
and he's just you guys have set a new world wreckord for the biggest pot
24:52
gathering of monkey crap I've ever seen or whatever he fucking says. He just
24:56
fucking so good. Yeah No, And I love the Rock. And another
25:00
great thing about the Rock too, is he wins fifty five point eight percent
25:04
of the time opposed to thirty six point sixty five percent of the losses and
25:10
his draws, so he wins more than he loses this whole career. I
25:12
did. Every person I picked, I looked up, there win lost percentage.
25:15
Damn. I wish you'd looked up stone Colds just out of curiosity.
25:18
I bet Goldberg's got the best probably you know the price. Though. Out
25:22
of everybody I looked up, they're all floating around the fifty percent thing.
25:26
So it doesn't matter how big of the star you were. Yeah, they're
25:29
all right around there. Try balances out when they were coming up and stuff.
25:32
Yeah that's true. But yeah, when The Rock became a movie star,
25:37
I remember watching The Center live the first time he was on there,
25:40
and I remember before it started, so this was not a live one.
25:42
I was like, Oh, it's kind of weird. I wonder why.
25:44
Maybe because he was too nervous. But and then I really liked The Rock.
25:47
And he also did Mowana. I love Mowana, You're welcome, one
25:49
of my favorite songs. He's done a lot of movies that were better than
25:52
thought, like The Rundown with Sean On. Yeah, I haven't watched it
25:56
for walking on, but yeah, but wrestling wise, love him. I
26:00
don't care who you team up to, anybody, you team up with the
26:03
Rock, It's gonna be funny. He's gonna be able to make it funny
26:06
and a great team Rock and SOT connection Rock. Oh yeah, I didn't
26:12
remember. I didn't him and Stone Cold briefly when the tag titles together during
26:15
like their feud when they didn't like each other and ship and they were also
26:18
tag team champions. I would assume so because those two, I felt like
26:21
we're the top notch of wrestling in this Oh. I think that's the best
26:23
rival. And they were both they could both be heels and they could both
26:27
be babyfaces and be perfect, Like it's crazy. I think The Rock is
26:34
like undeniably talented, charismatic. I'm just not a fan of The Rock.
26:41
I'm just not. I just never have. Really. What started turning for
26:47
me is when he did that fucking wrap of Tech nine. It's so cringey.
26:52
Oh my gosh, oh my, it's so cringe I can't listen to
26:56
him. That's so funny about that. And so for my second pick,
27:04
Yeah, so I'm gonna go with one of the people that are on my
27:07
Mount Rushmore. I think he's the goat. He's one of the goats.
27:11
I'm gonna go with the Undertaker. Yeah, so the Undertaker has a seventy
27:18
two percent when I think he has the highest out of everybody. I looked
27:21
up seventy two percent. He won, but that could be also the WrestleMania
27:26
record he had for so long, like twenty five in a row or something
27:27
like that, twenty two I think twenty two. Yeah, crazy high.
27:32
And the Undertaker I remember when I was a kid, especially since he never
27:36
broke it was almost like a real life cartoon. It felt like or maybe
27:42
that's not the right word. It didn't seem like. It didn't I didn't
27:47
feel like the Undertaker was like a human just because, like, you know,
27:51
you hit him in the head six times and he would just get up
27:52
and ready to go some more, and he was kind of scary. They
27:56
needed that American badass thing, which I wasn't a big fan, but it
27:59
was still the Undertaker. So you're like, Okay, Undertaking is still badass,
28:03
and it's so weird listening to him on interviews now, just because it
28:06
completely breaks I'm like what the guy. Yeah, I love the Undertaker.
28:12
It's a great pick. Yeah. He had so many different like phases through
28:15
his career, like the Ministry of Darkness or whatever it was. And then
28:21
when he was in that, he was also like teamed up with Vince McMahon
28:23
and the Evil Corporation or something like that. Everything undertaking was cool. And
28:29
the move, but the Undertaker's move where he like spins their arm and like
28:38
walks on the top rope and like drops the home. That moves so fucking
28:42
cool, especially for a big guy like him. Yeah, yeah, I
28:45
forgot. That's a great point too for how but he was the stuff he
28:48
was able to do. I think is great, great athlete. Yeah,
28:52
like the cane introduction. Obviously, the feuds of Nick Foley are great.
28:57
Uh, anybody who feuded with Undertaker was great. His matches with Sean Michaels,
29:03
Yeah, no matter what, like just like that intimidating force, like
29:07
nobody was immune to like being afraid of the Undertaker. He was on my
29:14
list, but like kind of low. I really hate the American badass version
29:18
of Undertaker. I think it's so corny. Yeah. Wait, did he
29:23
have the rolling ride his motorcycle out right around the ring. Yeah, so
29:29
I really hated it. It was like kind of racist honestly, but I
29:34
mean undeniable in the nineties, like just just fucking cool and then just like
29:41
figured it out towards the end, just like I'm going to wrestle like once
29:44
a year, you know, make a lot of money. It was even
29:49
like that at late late two thousands era with like I forget the guy's name,
29:52
but there's like the guy who like ran smacked down and he would be
29:56
like he would always like tell like it's a kind of it's like got into
30:00
a meme at this point where he's like you're gonna play You're gonna go against
30:03
the Undertaker player like and like that. That was a scare tactic, you
30:07
know, like you he would always bring out. Yeah. So anyways,
30:10
No, that's a good pick. So you have, Yeah, well to
30:14
the best than I think. For me, I think the best the most
30:18
memorable wrestling match of all time is probably either Holkogan Andre the Giant just because
30:22
that was crazy, especially for how By going back then, or of course
30:26
Undertaker mankind that pay per view. I remember watching it for the first time
30:30
with my buddy Mark we rented it. Yeah, and we we our mouths
30:33
were we were just no, what the fuck we did not There's like no
30:38
way. And then I showed my daughters that match not too long ago,
30:41
maybe a couple of years ago, A dot it, I'm horrible time,
30:44
but they did the same thing. When he is thrown. I it's no
30:48
matter who you are, if you're not interrestling, you watch that. It's
30:49
fucking insane and the bell sounding, Yeah, the whole crowd knows exactly what
30:55
that is. The only one that can rival that, I feel like is
30:57
the glass breaking was. Yeah. It was really sick too, when like
31:02
Undertaker would be under the ring and then like come through the just drag people
31:06
down like that was cool. He did the thing with the eyes or rolled
31:08
his eyes in the back of his head like yeah, that was gnarly.
31:11
That one always so just just uh one of the goats love him or hated
31:18
seriously and something I just realized too, how many matches like he started,
31:22
didn't he like do the first casket match, the first Inferno match, first
31:26
buried Alive match, one of the first I think he wasn't him in mankind
31:29
that the first very the very first hell in a cell. I don't know
31:30
if they were the very first, it meant they might be, so I
31:34
think it was always the other style cage before then. Oh I see that,
31:38
the one with the no top. Yeah yeah, all right, yeah
31:42
that's crazy. Yep, yep, because hell Undertaker. I don't know,
31:45
maybe I'm wrong, but oh sure, yeah, it's been a long time.
31:51
Well Ali, what's your number two? Yeah? I gotta be a
31:55
like slightly strategic here, and I think who I've singled out for to like
31:59
make my able. I think I'm gonna be okay, but I think I'm
32:02
gonna take a risk and do mc foley oh love it. Yeah, which
32:07
means mankind cactus Jack, that they're all coming with me. Yeah, that's
32:12
a great pick. You got options do so many things with your stable right
32:15
now, so you've got flexibility. So yeah, we got stone cold to
32:20
mcfoley so far, and uh yeah, I mean what a cool story.
32:24
Mcfoley was like, uh, battled hard in the Indies and Japanese wrestling and
32:31
like god, just so many fucking injuries and like think got the ship beat
32:37
out of him and really dedicated his life to this and then came into WWE
32:44
as this sort of freakish character. But I mean just what he did to
32:49
win the audience over as like a lovable character is really impressive. Uh,
32:58
it's like it's kind of unheard of honestly in a lot of ways at that
33:00
time too. And so and just like reinvented himself a lot, you know,
33:06
with like the mister Socco routine and just like or just himself or like
33:12
yeah, and like one of the funniest things in all of wrestling is the
33:15
Royal Rumble where he enters three separate times persona season, and so that that's
33:22
awesome. But and then just like extremely memorable moments of like not only the
33:28
Taker of Helensl, but also the Triple h Helensl. He introduced the hardcore
33:34
matches and belt just fucking tack things when you do the text, uh huh,
33:39
it's just so uh you know. And then him winning the title was
33:45
like was one of the coolest like audience reaction pops, you know, whatever
33:49
you want to you know, however you feel about calling those, but like,
33:52
uh, just really cool and very very funny, like legitimately one of
33:57
the funniest people in all of wrestling. We really he seems really humble all
34:01
the interviews, Like, you know, it could just be an online for
34:06
some of the thing, but he's done his dudes where I don't think he
34:07
would need to be like that anymore. I think that's just how he is.
34:10
A Humble and New York bestseller, bestseller. His book was number one
34:15
for a while, and that's you know, it's like, uh, he
34:19
like made a documentary about Santa Claus because it's he loves Santa Claus. I
34:23
did not know. Yeah, Like one of his dreams was to become like
34:25
a like a mall Santa and so he there's like a documentary about him like
34:30
doing that. So that's cool. That's yeah, super super good pick.
34:36
If you had to pick out of the three, who's your favorite? Mcfoley
34:38
me, it's mankind same Oh okay, yeah, it's it's tricky because like
34:46
there's kind of like this mcfoley man like he's still kind of mankind mcfoley,
34:52
you know, because he wears like the shirt and stuff. But I think
34:55
mankind is like is whatever one associates with with him and his best work.
35:01
I'd say, so, yeah, oh, the Cactus Jack's pretty cool and
35:05
fun. There'sn't the wrong answer. I just like the dude love persona myself,
35:12
hippie fucking goofball with the like the flowers and ship. All right,
35:16
Neil, what you're number two? All right? I gotta try to do
35:21
this. So I have back to back picks, which is nice. And
35:23
so I got two guys locked up, but I know I need three and
35:29
I'm just trying to figure out which one you fuckers aren't gonna take. And
35:34
I knowing it. Ali, I have no idea what you're gonna be doing
35:37
there, I know, right, you have so many directions. You can
35:44
go what if you did stunning Steve when he had hair? You know,
35:46
so many options. So for my plan of attack, I'm just gonna go
35:52
with I'm gonna start with I have to have Raymistereo. Okay, just Ray
36:06
Mysterio and Sting. We're gonna be exciting, like Minimums and is one of
36:13
the most entertaining guys to watch. He's got some of the most classic matches,
36:17
some of the coolest moves. Everybody has a Ray Mysterio memory, and
36:22
he's just fucking dope. One of my favorite ramisterial memories is when he's on
36:27
this like Gurney and the giant, big Joe picks him up and he hits
36:31
him on the turnbuckle, thing like, yeah, it's just like that doesn't
36:36
look real because the science difference. But when he took his mask off,
36:39
I was like, you know, he looks like a He looked like a
36:43
child. In a thousand years, I never would have I don't know.
36:46
I was like, really it was that they made him take his mask off,
36:52
Yeah for sure, And I bet it was cool for him because he
36:58
could probably go out in public and not be bothered. You know, he
37:00
just looked like a regular dude. I think one of the best matches of
37:02
all time. Other than I think I might have said this too. Other
37:06
than that Undertaker man kind is that Eddie Guerrero Raymon Serio nineteen thirty seven Halloween
37:10
having Oh talk about just half one after another, high flying moves, just
37:15
perfect wrestling. Those two together are just insane, so great solid pick.
37:20
Yeah. Yeah, my stereos like longevity too, just like still still wrestling
37:24
today, you know, doing it slowed down at like a bit, but
37:29
like not much. And the bit they're doing with his kid being in it
37:34
and his kids, his son is killing it in the right now. He
37:37
is absolutely killing it. And it's awesome. It's awesome to see. But
37:39
I saw the thing he the comment he made like last week he's about the
37:44
Eddie Guerrero custody match or whatever he goes. Man, if I have known
37:47
Dominic was such a dick, I'd have just let him have I not down
37:50
the match. So yeah, shout out to awesome, good move. I
37:54
played a lot like a World Tour or like Revenge the like play. You
38:01
know, Ray Masterial is one of those ones. He had the coolest move
38:05
set because he's doing all the fucking cork spin corkscrew spins and flips and ship
38:08
off the fucking turnbuckle and being able to dive at people outside of the rings
38:13
and you get h you got a w c W original there. Yeah,
38:19
and your two in your crew. So there we go. Uh now I'm
38:23
bringing up one of He wasn't my favorite, but he was probably my favorite
38:28
to watch. Jeff Hardy. Interesting, Oh Jeff Hardy, Okay, I
38:32
you had such a puzzled look on your face. It made me feel like
38:35
I said the wrong clue. Who I was thinking? Really quick? Who's
38:37
the one with the acoustic guitar? Jeff Jeff Jarrett in a thousand years double.
38:45
Jeff Hardy wrong. Oh man. He was a good hill and he
38:49
had Deborah McMichael with him, which was awesome for me. Uh yeah,
38:52
I know, Jeff Hardy with the fingers, the way you dressed, the
38:55
swags, the fucking The TLC matches between the Hardy's, Dudley and edgend Christian
39:00
are my favorite matches of all time. It's interesting. Yeah, those TLC
39:04
matches were so entertaining seeing him get fucking speared while hanging off the belt from
39:08
the giant ladder, stacking multiple tables, swanton bombing through it. Then sometimes
39:14
Bubba Ray would move and he'd go through the table himself. He always sold
39:17
it really well when he fought the Undertaker, when Undertaker's and his American badass
39:22
run and like, Undertaker beat the shit out of him, but he like
39:24
would stay down. I don't know. I just fucking love Jeff Hardy.
39:28
Man, He's so fucking cool to watch. Yeah. The swanton bomb was
39:30
one of the coolest things. And if you had a trampoline at that I
39:32
did it all the time. I had that ship down. Wait till the
39:36
last second, tuck your head and complete the flip. Oh yeah, I
39:38
had that thing dialed in. Yeah. The Hardys were for sure my favorite
39:42
tag team of that Yeah, that of that era. Yeah, like mostly
39:46
the style, like the style was rad and their move sets were really cool.
39:52
Leta was rad. Yeah, yeah, her doing the moon salts off
39:57
the top roping shit back in the day. Yeah, and she's the first
40:00
chick I saw do that those fucking awesome interesting picking tag team person who's exclusively
40:05
tag team work in this era for your your thing, yeah, because he
40:10
didn't have a singles run Ntilway in the late two thousands, I know,
40:15
right, I'll be all right, remember the truckers and he's got some upgrades
40:20
of teammates. Now, all right, your your your very emo uh stable
40:30
develop right now, all right. I have a tough choice because I do
40:35
feel like either one of these and he might pick mmmmm. I don't know
40:43
though, And I think I want to pick Kurt Angle. You know,
40:59
I had a feel you're in. I feel like Ale was probably the most
41:04
underrated. He was so bad because Kurt Angle was amazing and amazing fel some
41:09
great matches. But when everybody talks about this, they'll bring up Kurd Angle.
41:13
But after you know, like kind of later down, I feel like,
41:15
but I could be wrong. It was key hilarious, Okay, I
41:19
think honestly, oh Ship my things and old one. I honestly, if
41:27
I were picking him Mount Rushmore today, I think Kurt Angle's on it,
41:30
Like that's one of the most entertaining people of all time. Yeah, the
41:36
three Eyes. That was great integrity, intelligence, and I don't I just
41:44
I mean one his move sets were incredible, like he kept up with anybody.
41:47
It did not matter who he wrestled, like he had some of the
41:50
best matches like brock Lesner. Honestly, some of his best matches were against
41:53
Ray Mysterio. He he was he could keep up the energy and with like
42:01
the rock with Stone cold, like it did not matter who he was wrestling.
42:05
It was a very entertaining feud. And that could be him being a
42:09
heel like this is just American all American chump. It could be just him
42:14
being very funny. The crowd could just be behind him because he's you know,
42:17
he's the baby face now like like it's like the milk truck thing,
42:21
you know, like him doing that in the in the gold medal thing too.
42:27
I think really held on because with a broken crazy, really impressive.
42:34
He also, like I did some really dangerous and cool ship like that Shane
42:37
McMahon match. Yeah, he launch himself off, He'll do moonsalts. He'll
42:44
do moon salts off the top of a steel cage like he is. I
42:46
I honestly think he is like one of the most impressive wrestlers of all time.
42:52
Like love him or hate him, I don't know, Like I don't
42:55
know, like you know, if you just dislike him because of the all
42:58
American gimmick, like I get that, Like I don't really love it either,
43:00
but I think he was just so beyond like above it, you know,
43:04
like he was so yeah, like he was just like a just sort
43:07
of an enigma of a performer and athlete and just like I just and like
43:15
I if I rewatch old ww matches, Like honestly my favorite ones are kurd
43:17
angles, Like he's just so oh yeah, so good, so fluid,
43:21
he's smooth, he's good. Yeah. Well, that's what I was kind
43:23
of saying with that a gold medal thing is because I feel like in the
43:27
end of the nineties, they were still some people were really trying to hold
43:30
on Toto, like the wrestling's real they didn't fully come out and say,
43:31
Okay, it's entertainment, you know, but then having a legit gold medalist
43:36
sure American Olympic wrestler really added to the legitimacy of it. And so yeah,
43:40
I thought that was a great idea just to have that in general.
43:43
And like he he did some like pretty like close to like risk things but
43:50
made them work. You know what I'm saying, Like that line he gives,
43:52
I think it's I think it's in a feud with Ray Mysterio. He's
43:55
like mystereo. I want you to remember one thing. You're a boy in
44:07
a bad's world, and I'm a man who loves to play with boys.
44:14
No no, no, shun him shout him a sex ba sect. Yeah,
44:25
and like there's not many people who can get away with like that delivery
44:30
and that thing of the crowd, just like a being like the clown you
44:35
know. And man did he he did it all like he he was great
44:39
with like his like him and stone cold like him, sort of like wearing
44:43
like the little like cowboy hat and stuff and just like being like yeah,
44:45
being like the butt of the jokes, but like like took it out,
44:50
took it like a champ and like he was just so like, not many
44:54
people can do what he did, like being like all levels of it,
44:59
the most hated guy the room, the most lovable, the most funny,
45:01
Like he just did it all. So yeah, he killed funny. He
45:05
was so and honestly, I probably would have picked him first, but I
45:07
had a feeling you might be taking those other two guys. So anyways,
45:14
yeah, well, uh, great pick I'm gonna go with who. I
45:17
was one of my favorite wrestlers growing up. Just I really like Red and
45:21
Black of I was liked my whole life. I'm not to go with the
45:22
fucking big Machine Cane. Oh. The whole thing of him and Undertaker being
45:29
brothers I thought was a cool gimmicker first and I was like, are they
45:31
brothers? Like really, and I was like they got similar to size.
45:35
I mean they got me as a kid for sure, when I thought this
45:37
ship was semi realized, like what yeah. And then the same kind of
45:42
thing with Undertaker, the whole gimmick of the scariness, darkness, the blackness
45:45
they you know, the choke slam was huge, but the last ride and
45:49
something like that, the last dryd was undertaking. Oh damn, he just
45:52
did the choke slam Tombstone, Yeah, yeah, And I just thought it
45:57
was a cool gimming and I and a lot of it for me too,
45:59
is like the persona and without talking the mysteriousness of this character, You're like,
46:04
what is going on? And then the mask You're like, is it
46:07
like you know, you're kid, so like is it all burnt? Like
46:09
what's going on? And so you just always constantly like intrigued when you see
46:13
him on screen and the red and bla together, you gotta play the you
46:15
gotta play the clip of him coming at like his for his intro where ms
46:21
like, that's gotta be Caine, and everyone's like, is Kane, Like
46:24
we've never established this as a person Like yeah, Like his very first appearance
46:30
ever is like he he it's an undertaker, is in a steel cage match
46:35
and Caine comes to the ring and like breaks the door off. I think
46:37
it is, yeah, but Kane rips the door off and and like the
46:40
commentators like who is this? And then McMahon's going, it's gotta be Caine,
46:45
And then one's like, who is Cane? Oh my god, that's
46:59
got up big can. That's not a big can. Oh that's great.
47:05
Yeah, he was talented. He's a piece of shit now. But yeah,
47:12
I think my favorite thing about Kane is like they had they did,
47:15
They committed to so many things over time that they had to just like drop
47:17
without any explanation, you know what I mean. So like he when he
47:21
first started, he had the voice box thing like I am k you know
47:27
yeah, and then he's like his face is supposed to be disfigured, right
47:30
because he was burned as a child, and then he just has a normal
47:34
face, so like they just dropped that. Yeah. And then like he
47:37
had hair, but then he doesn't have hair, and then so like he's
47:39
just like he survived at all, you know, Like he he did what
47:44
he did. He had a good run. Yeah, And I think it's
47:47
similar to Undertaker for how big those two are, the stuff they're able to
47:51
do in the ring. He had like the top rope clothesline he did and
47:53
ship. Yeah. I actually remember when him and XPOC went on their run
47:58
and I thought he was going to join Dax in Rock Black and Green,
48:00
and I was so hyped. I ended up making it in one of the
48:02
games. Oh shit, it's me. Yeah, you last round, one
48:08
round left, that's true, but this is what pissed me off that you
48:12
took Sting because I wanted Sting. So my whole gimmick was gonna be the
48:15
Undertaker, Kane and Sting and none of them really talk, so the Rock.
48:20
I think that would be so funny for promos where the Rock keeps trying
48:23
to like and mean undertaking the undertaking to say anything and then or maybe one
48:27
of them will be like the exactly and I think that'd be Pick Goldberg.
48:30
Goldberg barely talked. Yeah, I just I'm afraid that no matter after learning
48:37
all about Goldberg, Like, I'm so afraid that anybody who wrestles in and
48:40
get hurt, even in this fake scenario thing. But uh so, then
48:45
what I'm gonna pick for my fourth then is I'm gonna go a little left
48:49
field since my plan of having one super charismatic person with three non charismatic people,
48:55
I'm gonna go two charismatics. Even though he's kind of a heel,
48:59
I think he's one of the coolest people of all time and he can sell
49:02
anything. I'm gonna Scot hadh okay cool, nice, yeah, yeah,
49:06
great fucking pick and really quick about Kane that I forgot Kane. Actually he's
49:09
out of everybody I looked up, he's the only one who won less than
49:13
fifty percent of his matches. He won forty nine point three six percent of
49:15
his matches, which is crazy. That is crazy. But Scott Hall.
49:20
I love Scott Hall. I think he's one of the coolest ones. I
49:21
just saw the sting online to where he may be the only wrestler where he
49:24
gets hit with the beer on in the middle of the ring and he makes
49:28
it even cooler somehow. I'm like, God, he's so fucking cool.
49:31
And then you got the toothpick thing, which is cool. The way he
49:34
talked here you go, hey, yeah, he's super good looking. He
49:37
had just enough hair to where it wasn't like gross hair, but it's just
49:40
enough to where it's like, oh, that guy's so dope. He has
49:43
a good winning record too, a fifty six point eleven percent of the time
49:45
he won. I didn't like the white and Black nWo just because you know,
49:51
I like Sting more. But you can't deny how cool that was to
49:54
be part of. Everybody had the shirts on, they had a cool sign
49:57
nWo for life. I should get the tatto that it was dope. That
50:00
would be a dope tat for real, But no, I love Scott Hall.
50:02
I was gonna pick Rick Flair, but I feel like Scott Hall might
50:06
go a little bit better with this crew since it's kind of a little bit
50:08
darker. Flaire is a little bit more. Yeah, Rick Flaire is like
50:12
top like top tier, you know, like leader performer, whereas like Scott
50:16
Hall like would take a back seat to the rock you know. Yeah,
50:21
and then anybody these four wrestle, Scott Hall is going to be able to
50:24
make the you know, other people look great because I do think the best
50:29
style of all time is the stone cold stunner around. Yeah, Scott Hall's
50:34
like got the best drip like that. He's just yeah for sure, like
50:38
he's he's cool as hell. Okay, love me some Scott Hall. All
50:45
right. Well, I'm in an interesting position. I could maybe try to
50:46
steal a manager from d LO because if I don't pick my wrestler, Delo's
50:51
got first pick at manager and maybe oh you're in a real tough spiby he's
50:57
not picking my uh person. I really want. I feel like we all
51:06
would like I want this manager. I don't think the manager that I think
51:09
we all want is gonna like actually work for my stable. So I think
51:15
I'm gonna pick my fourth wrestler, and I'm glad he's still there. I
51:19
was a little worried, but I'm gonna go with Eddie Guerrero. She got
51:30
on my list, on my list, he wonderful Guerrero, just the coolest,
51:38
one's super cool, nobody had nobody pulled the bullet off, uh huh,
51:44
And like one of my favorite matches of all time. We've already talked
51:47
about. I love the whole cheating thing, like through Like it's so good.
51:53
I wasn't so I wasn't watching wrestling then, so I've always seen clips
51:55
of it. Now that's a funny fucking bit. Ever, it's great,
52:00
it's it's awesome. And like the ways he did cheat to win, we're
52:04
amazing when he did get when he did finally become world champion, like that
52:07
was one of the most like cool build ups ever, one of the best
52:13
like finally did it moments of wrestling when he beat brock Lessners, that was
52:16
really cool. So with my stable, what I'm going with here, So
52:22
I have Stone Cold Mick, Foley, Kurt Angle, and Guerrero and I
52:25
think the way I want to do this is Kurt Angle is the leader of
52:29
this but he's he's playing his serious role and everyone else is fucking with him.
52:34
And that's like like Stone Cold is in his like in his like shithead
52:39
era. Guerrero is like cheating, and you know, kurd Angle is like
52:45
a you know, a goodie goodie type is like, well, I didn't
52:51
cheat. Look, I can see that. She's like, no, man,
52:53
it's not just mc foley could do anything. So I'm like, I
52:58
think it'd be fun if like Kurt Angle is like trying to lead this group
53:00
but like that is trying to be like a good guy and everyone else is
53:05
fucking him over. So your four would make such a good D and D
53:08
TV show, right, Like that for it for sure. So I just
53:15
thought about it, and it'd be funny if on your stable Mick Fuley was
53:21
mankind, so he didn't always talk, but when he did, it didn't
53:22
make sense, and just Kurt Angle couldn't communicate with him because he didn't understand
53:25
what he meant. Yeah, oh yeah, for sure, I think you
53:29
I think wa but no, that's so far. Yeah that's great. Oh
53:34
man, So I get to do the last wrestler and the manager the last
53:40
pick of wrestlers. I might as well do it now. So I got
53:45
Sting, I got Mysterio, I got Jeff Hardy. What all these men
53:50
have in common? Well, I guess it's hard never mind, I'll take
53:52
that back, because Jeff Harty only did it sometimes, kind of dosing it
53:55
as a loophole. But he's most exciting. The masked men face paint.
53:59
Oh my guys have face paint, masks whatever, you know. So to
54:02
round out my team of the Masked Men taking the Ultimate Warrior, Oh wow,
54:07
you're going to old school, huh. So my whole team is fucking
54:12
and this and I've also for the record, this is Sting pre black and
54:15
white, his fucking short hair, fucking short blonde hair, fucking wild and
54:21
out there. My team fucking gets after it. The Masked Men gets after
54:28
it. I love my squad. I'm so hyped. Like I'll be honest,
54:31
I didn't watch a lot of Ultimate Warrior that was before my time,
54:34
but all the highlights are cool. The intensity is fucking awesome. He was
54:37
just obviously obviously on tons of cocaine, like just fucking getting after it.
54:43
Hopefully he doesn't steer Jeff Hardy towards the cocaine because that would you know,
54:46
we saw what happened to his career when he did that. So my team
54:51
is just exciting. And I didn't know who to pick for a manager for
54:55
this team because this wasn't my initial plan. This was a backup plan.
54:59
And so for my manager, I want the manager who's gonna fucking make some
55:05
noise, you know, push it out there, get the people going.
55:08
I'm going with Jimmy Hart Jimmy Stable. Yeah, and he's got the glasses
55:15
too, so he's kind of got a mask and he's got the megaphone.
55:17
You can't see his face behind the glasses in the megaphone. Well, I
55:20
think it would be a really cool thing for your stable. Is like they
55:22
work together for a long time, right, But then the Ultimate Warrior and
55:25
Jeff Hardy start kind of maybe parting a little bit or something. He starts
55:30
straining from the crew and so then Sting turns black because he gets uh,
55:34
Jeff Hardy and Ultimate Warrior fail him jump him and Ray mystereo. So then
55:40
those two and then it's like a cool tag team thing. I'm with it,
55:45
but my team is just fucking fast paced, fucking excitement. Okay,
55:51
he'd be really funny. Jimmy hart and Eddie Garrera getting mad at each other
55:54
about the mullets. Mis better, that's funny. Jimmy Hartlow his kind of
56:00
almost looked like a pompadour mul He's got the fluff up top. All right,
56:07
yeah you should so, Yeah, there's my crew and then we're called
56:10
the mask Men. I like it. Well. I think the one person
56:15
who would like play both sides of this, like being able to like try
56:21
to calm like an upset Kurt angle down, but also like like let these
56:25
guys have their fun as Paul Hayman. That's what I thought, Yeah,
56:32
right, pick for these four. Yeah, for sure, that's funny,
56:36
either him or Bobby Heenan. But I think Paul Haymon is just so manipulator
56:43
and that and like he can be funny, he can be he can hype
56:45
people up like he's great. I don't think he's a great person or anything,
56:51
but like I think he is just fucking like so entertaining, you know,
56:57
And I think he'd be perfect to lead this this this thing. I
57:00
got absolutely it's perfect. Did you happen to see his Hall of Fame speech
57:05
this past week when he put on the E CW how he was doing his
57:07
Hall of Fame speech and he said something to the effect of and he literally
57:10
said, uh, he goes if you think the E c W days are
57:15
dead, you can suck my fucking dick. And I was like, what
57:17
the fucking triple h like puts his hand in his head or his head in
57:22
his hands and fucking I remember like Orton like God to look on his face
57:25
like what the fuck did he just say? And so, yeah, I
57:30
think he's the perfect guy for what you've built. Yeah, that's fantastic.
57:34
It well fucking done. I don't know what you gotta. You gotta come
57:37
up with a team name though, or a click. I kind of thought
57:38
one these four wouldn't have very good chem mystery. So if you do Kurt
57:43
Eddie mcfoley stone, it's Kem's so Kim's. I think if I had to
57:49
give him a name, it'd be the All American Rejects, you know,
57:52
because like, oh, my gosh, that's so good, and then they
57:54
come out to swing swing like yeah, oh that's wonderful. The All American
58:04
Rejects. Fuck yeah, round of applause for Ali killed it. So yeah,
58:08
I think, oh okay, yeah yeah, so okay, I'll just
58:10
go with mine. Well I'm gonna have to go with Paul. Yeah,
58:15
the team's dead, yeah for sure. Well then, also I think Paul
58:17
Barr talking to Scott Hall and the Rock would just be so fucking funny because
58:23
both of them be like, like he would you say, now you need
58:28
to go? You know, it doesn't matter what you say. I think
58:31
trying to speak for the group and the Rock just like cutting him off.
58:34
You know, Oh my god, that's so funny. Oh Man, great
58:39
job overall, I like, I like what we did. Now, can
58:44
we come up? Can we discuss other stable ideas we might have had?
58:47
Team Ruckus Team Ruckus Yeah, r u k s. You gotta stop with
58:52
the fucking like acronyms angle puckas per s p u r k yes, it's
59:00
the perks of being I don't know, to stop everything you're doing right now?
59:04
Well, Ali went so hard with all American rejects. I'm glad I
59:07
went first with mass Man because it's not good, but it's not nothing,
59:14
all right, Well, I gotta ask so like uh I was, I
59:19
was kind of going more towards like a Mount Rushmore originally, but then this
59:23
you got all bangs, Yeah, like they're all ones. I would like,
59:27
I think, like for sure Kurt Angles on there. I would also
59:30
have considered Brett Hart uh, even though he's a piece of ship now Chris
59:35
Jericho. Dusty Rhodes is one of my like all time fabes. He is
59:43
just so entertaining, uh the all American dream I mean, yeah, yeah,
59:47
I love Dusty roll du Yeah. For the longest time, I thought
59:51
gold Dust was Cody Rhodes's dad, but their brothers. I also thought that
59:58
go right. Also, I was thinking of, oh sorry, just a
1:00:01
few more rowdy Roddy Piper for sure up there. I also considered Samoa.
1:00:07
Joe just had like really good aura and like good start to his career.
1:00:13
And the other guy I really like is Kurt Henning because he's just like so
1:00:15
good at being a piece of ship, mister fucking perfect. He's so good
1:00:19
that pro Oh yeah about Ali when he throws the football that catches it,
1:00:24
that's one of the best things there's I saw a Twitter thread. There's like
1:00:29
dozens of them. Yeah, different. I spent like an hour one day
1:00:34
watch him holy there's ones for pool, like all kinds of there's also like
1:00:38
this gift where it's like you wish you had this much drip and he like
1:00:42
walks in the ring and like throws a towel behind his back and it lands
1:00:44
on this dude's shoulder. Like he's just like he's got so much drip.
1:00:47
And then he's like so good at being a piece of ship and like I
1:00:51
just love shitheads. So he's up there. That's a good one. So
1:00:55
my plan was when I had the first pick, So my plan was initially
1:01:00
to build a team, and I was Sting was like the leader because my
1:01:05
second pick was gonna be the Undertaker, and then I was gonna do Kevin
1:01:10
Nash, but from when he was Shredder, so it's teenage mutant ninja turtle
1:01:15
Kevin Nash, right, so he's got it. That's like his fit.
1:01:19
He almost looks like he's like hawking animal, like combine the road Warriors and
1:01:22
so those three Sting, Taker and Nash and then Billy Kidman when he was
1:01:27
like the raven and he looked like a crackhead. Yeah, because and my
1:01:30
squad was the Murder of Crows, obviously led by Paul BarreR and that was
1:01:35
their team, the Murder of Crows, and it was Undertaker Sting, fucking
1:01:39
Shredder basically, and fucking Billy Kidman. Yeah that's a good one. Yeah.
1:01:44
Now, I just thought with Sting on that team would have been perfect
1:01:45
because I'd have been missed like the most charismatic, you know, outspoken wrestler
1:01:52
with three people who don't really talk. Yeah, which I thought would have
1:01:54
been really funny. Oh no, that's really fucking good. The other people
1:01:58
I've had on my list just in case I got picked. I had Rick
1:02:01
Flair, just love Ric Flair at Eddie Guerrero. Uh do you remember Conan?
1:02:06
Yeah? I love Cone. I thought he was so fucking cool,
1:02:10
So I had him on there and then I'll sat DDP on there because I
1:02:14
thought I loved I think one of the coolest thing is when he didn't join
1:02:16
n w O. I thought that was such a boss fucking move. Yeah
1:02:20
that was gangster. Yeah. So I thought of another one. This one's
1:02:22
called the Drunks and it's stone cold. Well, no, I I wish
1:02:30
I would have, but I so stone cold, And I want to give
1:02:34
a quick shout out to whoever throws stone Cold as beer and stone Cold has
1:02:37
incredible hands. You don't see him drop him off now unless they're overthrown.
1:02:42
Their quarterback wide receiver combos outstanding. I just wanted to throw that out there.
1:02:45
So the drunks were stone Cold, the Undertaker when he's American badass version,
1:02:52
Andre the Giant, and Scott Hall, and then I was gonna do,
1:02:55
uh, it's kind of fucked up. The manager either be Chris Benwall
1:03:00
or Miss Elizabeth Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And so that that was the
1:03:04
set that partied. I was thinking about maybe having Andre the Giant and then
1:03:08
the Big Show and then Undertaker and Kane and just the Big the Wall yeah,
1:03:14
called like the Mountain or something like that. Yeah. Man, No,
1:03:19
So let's just go over our teams really quick. I guess we'll start
1:03:21
with Dilo if you want to kind of do your list. Yeah. So
1:03:24
I first round took Sting uh, then got Ray Masterio and Jeff Hardy back
1:03:30
to back, and I'm glad that I did. Would you guys have picked
1:03:32
Jeff Hardy if I don't know? Way? And then I got Ultimate Warrior
1:03:39
in the fourth round, and for my manager, I got the Mouth of
1:03:42
South Jimmy Hart nice, it's good. And then Ali. I think Ali's
1:03:45
team wins like the best four that would interact with each other and ran down
1:03:51
the best. We got American Rejects led by Kurt Angle and then supported by
1:03:58
Stone Cold, Steve Austin, Mick full and Eddie Guerrero led by Paul Hamon.
1:04:03
I just love Paul hamond be talking to Eddie grera up, and then
1:04:08
stone Cole would have made attention to m mcfoley. I just that's such a
1:04:11
good yeah. And like a lot of these guys have tag teams with each
1:04:14
other too, so like Fully and Austin or Angle and Austin, Like if
1:04:18
you had the every stable has to have tag matches too, so you know,
1:04:23
those would both be options now that you think about it, if I
1:04:28
had to put, I mean, Jeff Hardy was one of the best tag
1:04:30
team competitors ever, but I think Young Sting and Ultimate Warrior together would have
1:04:33
fucking moved mountains that had been bad ass. And then my team, I'm
1:04:39
gonna go the nameless team. I can't think of a good one, so
1:04:45
it's the Rock, which is my favorite wrestler of all time, and then
1:04:47
Undertaker, which I think is on a Mount Rushmore, and I think on
1:04:50
a lot of people's Mount Rushmore. Cain and Scott Hall and with Paul bearre
1:04:56
as the manager, you need to be Paul Beer for Hall of I know
1:04:59
so bad. God be a good Paul Bed be the tan Paul Bear.
1:05:02
Yeah no, but you gotta white face yourself. You have to. I
1:05:06
get an antique for this. But you even got the same haircut and everything.
1:05:12
Yeah, right, and I can even grow that stash, yeah exactly,
1:05:14
already there. You just got to say that little patch on your chin,
1:05:15
your golden light grams. All right. And final, we're just gonna
1:05:19
do a quick what our dream WrestleMania match would be, and so mine is
1:05:25
originally it's a WrestleMania right after the WWC fall, so they actually bring Sting
1:05:30
into WWF uh, and they got Scott Hall back, so it's just gonna
1:05:33
be Scott Hall and Sting. But then of course coming down the ring with
1:05:38
Scot Hall would be Kevin Nash in Hollywood Hogan. And then all the WWF
1:05:42
guys are like freaked out, like we can't just let Sting out there by
1:05:45
himself. Well, you know, what are we gonna do? And then
1:05:47
Sting starts getting beat starts getting jumped, and then you hear smell do you
1:05:57
smell? And then the whole crowd goes crazy. Right, oh my gosh,
1:06:00
just thinking about it. Why would the Rock though, because he's he
1:06:03
cares about WWF and he knows it's gonna make him because he's the people's champion.
1:06:08
The people want Sting to win. So the crowd goes crazy and the
1:06:13
Rocks kicking ass are a little bit. But three verse two, it's really
1:06:15
hard, right to actually overcome these three other guys, and they're they're fighting,
1:06:19
they're about to start losing, and then you hear that pop would be
1:06:27
it would probably register on like an earthquake, the Richter scale, the scale,
1:06:31
because then stone Cole comes out, and now you have Sting, the
1:06:34
Rock and Stone Cole beating off, beating off nWo, Scott Hall, Kevin
1:06:43
Nash, Hollywood Hogan, and then Sting wins, and the Rock and stone
1:06:48
coll and Sting and the Night with their hand up as fucking kicking ass and
1:06:53
taking names. And that would be so cool. And I'm not even a
1:06:57
huge fan of Stone Cold, by know how important he is and how much
1:06:59
people love him, So that would be yeah, say it was the best
1:07:00
for last to do that to yourself. I got just thinking about how that
1:07:05
would have been a cool scenario. But now you got me thinking, how
1:07:08
cool would it be if in that matchup, like I don't know, I
1:07:10
guess, so you'd have to do it this way. So then, uh,
1:07:14
for whatever reason, when they're cutting promos, they they're trying to call
1:07:16
each other the best group, and then d X comes out and it's just
1:07:19
with just uh HBK triple H and X poc Okay, he's the last one.
1:07:26
Oh I see, I see yeah, and just have them nine guys
1:07:30
go fucking nuts. Then what about your WrestleMania match? All right, well
1:07:36
I kinda have a couple ideas and you you sting? What the match?
1:07:43
I think that would be sick is if you took like prime Sting, Well
1:07:46
I don't even know what someone considered that air sting, the black and white
1:07:49
sting versus like Undertaker before the American Badass when he was still like it was
1:07:57
dark. So it would just be like two dark forces colliding. I think
1:08:00
that'd be fucking badass. And I can't take credit for this. I saw
1:08:03
as a meme or something is like, why didn't these two ever have like
1:08:08
a battle going on? It was Undertaker and stand Yeah, but it's so
1:08:11
dark they keep missing each other. Yeah, just walking past each other in
1:08:14
the darkness. Oh and then and then Sting takes his mask off, but
1:08:19
he's the Undertaker, who. Yeah, I think we were robbed of a
1:08:25
lot of good dream matches between Sting and like anybody on the the WW roster,
1:08:30
like it's fucking dumb, like how Petty Bensickman is to just like,
1:08:34
you know, WCW is like kind of like Golden Boy product and like not,
1:08:40
you know, I'm not gonna put this guy over to my products better,
1:08:43
you know bullshit. Yeah. So anyways, is that why Sting never
1:08:45
went w W pretty much? I think I don't know if it's well,
1:08:48
I was kind of reading about that a little bit because they weren't utilizing Brett
1:08:51
Hart the way that they felt like when they came back, So Sting was
1:08:55
like, I'm gonna take a year or two off because I don't want to
1:08:57
just get thrown in there not taking seriously. And then he realized what they
1:09:00
were doing with the w W c W people, So then that that's kind
1:09:03
of what I read yeah, and then when he did go to WW,
1:09:08
they just completely just you know, treated him like ship. Yeah. So
1:09:15
so we're for sure robbed at that, but I think, like, yeah,
1:09:17
you're not wrong, like under like Undertaker, original Undertaker, and like
1:09:23
Grossting. The aura alone would be so fucking sick. I think if I
1:09:29
if I picked one with this era of people, I think I would love
1:09:31
to see in their prime, Brett Hart and Kurt Angle. I think it
1:09:35
would be just one fucking incredible I'd beat. That's a really technically sound match.
1:09:43
The things that would be, Yeah, and also the build up you
1:09:46
could either way, like Brett's a great heel, Brett's a great face,
1:09:49
and so whichever one's face or heel doesn't matter, they're gonna put on like
1:09:53
a fucking great that's a that's a really good call, a really good call.
1:10:00
Yeah. What's crazy is Brett Hart never even crossed my mind for the
1:10:02
Draft man was one of the best. I think I was. I was
1:10:05
never a huge fan of all Right that was either and by the time I
1:10:09
got into it, he was on his way out going back and watching go
1:10:12
back and watching his matches. Though he's just one of the best and technically
1:10:16
that match that he had with stone Cold where stone Hold's like bleeding and like
1:10:20
you know, he's in the Sharpshooter. I remember I watched that match.
1:10:24
He's just he's just simply one of the best wrestlers ever. Yeah, all
1:10:30
right, pretty fun. Thanks for the invite, Yeah, no, thanks
1:10:35
for being here. We always appreciate you. So before we leave, Ali,
1:10:42
do you want to promote anything? Yeah, just uh, if you
1:10:44
love wrestling you're listening to this, just go find me. I'm on Instagram
1:10:48
at Ali j is gay. If you're on Facebook, you can find punchlines
1:10:54
and pile drivers. But just keep up with the wrestling comedy thing we're doing
1:10:59
because I think it's it's gonna start taking off soon. And and if you're
1:11:02
in Portland, next show is October twenty fifth, so tickets will go and
1:11:05
sale probably August, I'm guessing. And uh yeah, do you know the
1:11:11
name of the venue? Yeah, Curious Comedy Theater. It's in there annex
1:11:14
and it's gonna be a lot of fun. So get it going. You
1:11:19
got anything, Nope? Bring back the Balls pod yea. And then for
1:11:27
me, I'm just gonna double down what Ali said. I mean, we're
1:11:29
doing Averager season too soon. But yeah, that punchline is gonna be fun.
1:11:32
I'm gonna be there. If you're there, you wanna buy me a
1:11:34
drink, that's totally cool. I'm not gonna play no, but I'll definitely
1:11:36
be there because that's such a cool idea. And uh so, I just
1:11:42
want to say thank you so much for listening. Uh this has been Notable
1:11:45
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1:11:54
I'm not gonna get at you. Is that the quote? Yeah,
1:11:57
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