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- 0:09Randy Black: The goal
- 0:11isn't to win the moment.
- 0:13The goal is to outlast
- 0:16the moment.
- 0:20Randy Black.
- 0:22Randy Black. Randy Black. Randy Black. Randy
- 0:25Black. Randy Randy
- 0:26Black. He's a troublemaker.
- 0:32Welcome back to Randy Unscripted.
- 0:34I'm Randy Black, and this is the podcast where
- 0:37I kinda just talk about things that come across my brain whenever they happen to come across. And then last night,
- 0:43as I tried to go to bed,
- 0:46I was hit with a burst,
- 0:48a burst of inspiration,
- 0:50and that's where this episode came from. So first off, I wanna start
- 0:54with a question.
- 0:57When you think of successful creators,
- 1:00who comes to mind?
- 1:02Maybe it's a best selling author.
- 1:05Maybe it's a famous YouTuber.
- 1:08Maybe it's a musician who's topped the charts for years.
- 1:13My guess, though, is that
- 1:15very few of you
- 1:17answered
- 1:18weird Al Yankovic.
- 1:20And yet if your definition of success includes longevity,
- 1:25relevance,
- 1:26professionalism,
- 1:27and the ability
- 1:28to build an audience that stays with you for decades,
- 1:32he might be one of the most successful creators
- 1:34of the last fifty years.
- 1:37After all, he's the guy that turned beat it into eat it,
- 1:42bad into fat,
- 1:44happy into tacky.
- 1:46He's the accordion playing parody musician who somehow built an entire career around taking popular songs
- 1:52and giving them a comedic twist.
- 1:56But here's what's fascinating.
- 1:58While countless artists have come and gone over the past four decades,
- 2:02Weird Al's still here.
- 2:04I just saw him in concert on Saturday night.
- 2:07He's still recognizable.
- 2:09He's still respected,
- 2:11and he's still finding new audiences.
- 2:14And when you look closely at how he's managed to do that, there's some surprisingly valuable lessons there
- 2:19for us, for podcasters.
- 2:22In fact, I'd argue that many podcasters spend their time studying people who become famous quickly
- 2:28when they might be better served studying someone who managed to stay relevant for more than four decades.
- 2:34Because podcasting,
- 2:36it isn't about going viral.
- 2:38It's about staying in the game,
- 2:40and that's where Weird Al has a lot to teach us.
- 2:44The first lesson that we can get from Weird Al Yankovic is this.
- 2:48Find your niche and own it and stick with it.
- 2:53One of the biggest mistakes that creators make is trying to be everything
- 2:57to everyone.
- 2:59When Alfred Yankovic started his career, he wasn't trying to become the next rock star. He wasn't trying to outsing the biggest artist of the day. He wasn't trying to compete directly with the people at the top of the charts.
- 3:12Instead, he found a lane that was uniquely his.
- 3:16He took music seriously enough to make it sound great, but he didn't take himself so seriously
- 3:22that he couldn't have fun with it.
- 3:24The result was something that audiences
- 3:27hadn't really seen before.
- 3:29Now let's bring that back to podcasting.
- 3:32There are thousands upon thousands of podcasts available today.
- 3:36Whatever topic you're interested in,
- 3:39chances are there are dozens, maybe hundreds of shows that are covering it. Technology,
- 3:45education,
- 3:46faith, politics, sports, business, everything.
- 3:50The temptation is to look at what's popular
- 3:52and try to imitate it.
- 3:55But if you're simply copying someone else's show,
- 3:58listeners already have the original.
- 4:01What makes a podcast memorable
- 4:03isn't that it sounds exactly like every other podcast in its category.
- 4:08What makes it memorable
- 4:10is
- 4:10that it sounds
- 4:12like you.
- 4:14That's something I've
- 4:15thought about quite a bit here with Randy Unscripted.
- 4:18This isn't strictly a technology podcast.
- 4:21It's not strictly a faith podcast. It's not strictly an education podcast. It's not strictly a personal journal. It's a little bit of all those things because that's who I am.
- 4:31And whether you're a podcaster, a writer, a musician, or any other type of creator,
- 4:36your greatest advantage is the one thing nobody else can duplicate,
- 4:41and that's your perspective.
- 4:43Weird Al,
- 4:45he understood that.
- 4:46He didn't try to become somebody else.
- 4:49He became the best version of himself,
- 4:52and that's a lesson every podcaster
- 4:54should take to heart.
- 4:57The second lesson is one that many creators
- 5:00know intellectually,
- 5:01but they struggle to embrace emotionally.
- 5:05Consistency
- 5:07beats virality.
- 5:09We live in a culture
- 5:11that loves overnight success stories.
- 5:14Every week, there's a new creator who seems to appear out of nowhere. A video goes viral. Podcasts explode in popularity. A social media account gains hundreds of thousands of followers seemingly overnight.
- 5:25And because those stories are so visible,
- 5:28it's easy to assume that's how success normally happens.
- 5:33The reality is that most lasting success
- 5:36is much less exciting.
- 5:39It's built one project at a time, one episode at a time, one audience member at a time.
- 5:46That's certainly true for Weird Al. His career wasn't built on a single hit.
- 5:51It wasn't built on one lucky break. It wasn't built on one moment of Internet fame.
- 5:55It was built on showing up year after year, decade after decade, and continuing to create.
- 6:02Think about how many changes we've witnessed.
- 6:05Vinyl records,
- 6:07cassette tapes,
- 6:09compact discs, digital downloads, streaming services, YouTube, social media, entire industries have risen and fallen during the span of his four decade career.
- 6:20Yet somehow
- 6:21he remained relevant through all of it.
- 6:24Why?
- 6:25Because he understood something that many creators forget.
- 6:29The goal isn't to win the moment.
- 6:32The goal is to outlast the moment.
- 6:36I think that's especially important for podcasters to hear.
- 6:40Podcasting can be discouraging at times.
- 6:42You spend hours preparing, recording, editing, publishing, and promoting an episode.
- 6:47Then you compare your numbers to someone else's and wonder if any of them are making a difference.
- 6:54Maybe you've experienced that yourself.
- 6:56Maybe you've launched a project with excitement only to discover that growth happens much more slowly than you expected.
- 7:04Well, that's normal.
- 7:05In fact, that's probably closer to the rule than the exception.
- 7:09Podcasts
- 7:10that succeed over the long term
- 7:13are often not the ones that start the fastest.
- 7:16They're the ones that refuse to quit.
- 7:19Every episode becomes part of a larger body of work.
- 7:23Every conversation
- 7:24strengthens your skills.
- 7:26Every publication date becomes evidence that you're still showing up.
- 7:32Over time,
- 7:33compounds.
- 7:35It's a little like planting a tree.
- 7:38For a long time, it doesn't look like much is happening.
- 7:41Then one day you realize
- 7:43something has taken root.
- 7:46The creator who keeps showing up eventually has something that the creator chasing shortcuts never develops,
- 7:53trust.
- 7:54Listeners begin to trust that there will be another episode.
- 7:58They begin to trust the quality of the content.
- 8:01They begin to trust the voice behind the microphone,
- 8:05and trust is far more valuable than temporary spikes in attention.
- 8:09Weird Al didn't build a forty plus year career by chasing every trend.
- 8:14He built it by continuing to create while trends came and went around him.
- 8:22The third lesson is simple,
- 8:25respect your audience.
- 8:27Every podcast listener has choices,
- 8:29more choices than ever before.
- 8:32When someone chooses to spend thirty minutes or an hour listening to your show, they're giving you something valuable,
- 8:38their time.
- 8:40Once you begin viewing the audience that way, it changes how you approach your work.
- 8:44You stop asking, how can I get more downloads?
- 8:47And you start asking,
- 8:49how can I better serve the people who are already listening?
- 8:53And that shift, it matters.
- 8:55It affects how you prepare. It affects how you communicate. It affects the level of care that you bring to every episode.
- 9:02Some of the most successful podcasts have huge audiences,
- 9:06but many of the most meaningful podcasts
- 9:09have loyal audiences.
- 9:11People who return week after week because they feel a genuine connection to the creator,
- 9:16people who feel seen,
- 9:17people who feel valued,
- 9:19people who feel like they're part of something,
- 9:22And that doesn't happen through marketing alone.
- 9:24It happens through trust.
- 9:26It happens through authenticity.
- 9:28It happens when listeners know that a person behind the microphone
- 9:33genuinely
- 9:34appreciates them.
- 9:36Weird Al's reputation wasn't built simply because he was talented.
- 9:40It was built because he treated people well.
- 9:43Fans appreciated it. Collaborators appreciated it. The artists he parodied
- 9:50appreciated it.
- 9:51His success demonstrates that you don't have to build an audience through outrage,
- 9:55controversy,
- 9:56or arrogance.
- 9:58Sometimes
- 9:59the most sustainable path is simply becoming someone people enjoy supporting.
- 10:06The fourth lesson is one that often gets overlooked,
- 10:10and that's that quality matters.
- 10:13When people think about Weird Al's music, they focus on humor.
- 10:17But the humor works because the music itself
- 10:21is exceptionally well crafted.
- 10:23The arrangements
- 10:24are all polished. The performances
- 10:27are all professional.
- 10:28The production is excellent. His band doesn't sound like they're mocking popular popular music at all. They sound like they could have recorded the original songs themselves.
- 10:38And,
- 10:39honestly,
- 10:40they really could have. I've seen them live three times, and they're amazing.
- 10:44The joke of the song of the parody succeeds
- 10:47because the craftsmanship
- 10:49that Al and his band has is real.
- 10:53Podcasting works in the same way.
- 10:56Listeners notice when your audio is clear.
- 10:58They notice when stories are organized. They notice when research is thorough. They notice when transitions feel natural.
- 11:05The goal isn't perfection.
- 11:08The goal is excellence.
- 11:10It's bringing your best effort to every single episode.
- 11:14It's respecting your audience enough to produce something you're proud to put your name on.
- 11:19Quality compounds just like consistency does.
- 11:23Each episode teaches you something.
- 11:25Each recording
- 11:27sharpens your delivery.
- 11:28Each editing session improves your skills.
- 11:31Eventually, listeners begin associating your work with a certain standard,
- 11:36not because you're the biggest creator,
- 11:38but because you're committed to doing good work.
- 11:43The fifth lesson is adapt without losing yourself.
- 11:47Every creator eventually faces this challenge.
- 11:51Technology changes,
- 11:53platforms change,
- 11:56audience expectations
- 11:57change.
- 11:58The question becomes whether you can
- 12:01evolve without abandoning what made you unique in the first place.
- 12:05And,
- 12:06Weird Al adapted constantly.
- 12:08The songs he parodied in the nineteen eighties
- 12:11were very different from those in the nineteen nineties.
- 12:14The songs of the streaming era were still different,
- 12:17far beyond those.
- 12:19His subject matter evolved because culture evolved,
- 12:23yet every project
- 12:25still felt unmistakably
- 12:28like Weird Al.
- 12:29The tools changed.
- 12:31The personality did not.
- 12:33Podcasters face those same challenges.
- 12:36Every year brings a new trend.
- 12:38Video podcasts, and that's the big one right now. Short form clips,
- 12:43live streaming, artificial intelligence,
- 12:46whatever comes next, it's important to pay attention
- 12:49to the new opportunities.
- 12:51It's equally important not to lose sight of who you are because trends are coming and going. Identity endures. We should continue learning. We should continue to experiment. We should embrace technologies that make our work better, but technology
- 13:04should never become a mission.
- 13:07The mission should remain the mission.
- 13:12The sixth lesson is one I think many creators often overlook,
- 13:15and that's the power of being known for something.
- 13:19Mention Weird Al's name and most people immediately know what he represents,
- 13:23not because he's the biggest selling musician in history, but because he owns a specific place in people's minds.
- 13:30When people think of parody music, they think of Weird Al. That's powerful.
- 13:35Not because it's limiting,
- 13:36because it's memorable.
- 13:38As podcasters, it's worth asking ourselves a difficult question. What are we known for?
- 13:44Not what we hope to be known for, not what we put in our social media bios.
- 13:48What our listeners are associating with our work.
- 13:52Most creators don't struggle with a lack of ambition.
- 13:55They struggle with a lack of focus.
- 13:58We want to cover every topic.
- 14:00We want to chase every trend, reach every audience,
- 14:03but the broader we spread ourselves, the harder it becomes
- 14:07for people to understand what makes us unique.
- 14:11Being known for something doesn't mean being one dimensional.
- 14:14It means being recognizable.
- 14:17When someone recommends your podcast to a friend, what do they say?
- 14:21Can they describe it in a sentence?
- 14:24Can they explain why it matters?
- 14:27Can they explain why it's different?
- 14:30For me, Randy Unscripted has never been about chasing headlines. And if you look at the downloads, it's definitely not about that. It's never been about following the trends.
- 14:40It's been about sharing lessons from technology, education, faith, family, and life through
- 14:45honest conversations,
- 14:46through my own personal experiences, my own research.
- 14:50Those themes appear repeatedly because they're part of who I am.
- 14:55Eventually, the things you care about most
- 14:57begin to define your work.
- 15:00Weird Al became memorable because he was unmistakably
- 15:03himself,
- 15:04and that's a lesson worth remembering.
- 15:06In a crowded world, clarity
- 15:09is definitely a competitive advantage.
- 15:14And finally,
- 15:15the seventh lesson that podcasters can learn from Weird Al,
- 15:19build a career,
- 15:21not a moment.
- 15:23One of the reasons we're talking about Weird Al today is because his success can't be reduced to a single achievement.
- 15:30It's the cumulative result of decades of work.
- 15:33When people discuss his career, they don't point to just one song.
- 15:37They point to an entire body of work,
- 15:40a legacy.
- 15:41That's something creators often forget,
- 15:44especially in a world today that's obsessed with metrics.
- 15:48We're tempted to focus on individual moments. You know, the episode with the most downloads, the post with the most engagement, the video with the most views,
- 15:57and those moments, they're exciting.
- 16:00But moments fade.
- 16:03Careers, however, endure.
- 16:05A creator who builds everything around one moment eventually spends their life searching for the next one.
- 16:12A creator who builds a body of work creates something that's much more durable.
- 16:17That's one of the things I appreciate most about podcasting.
- 16:21Every episode becomes part of a larger story,
- 16:24a larger journey,
- 16:26a larger collection of lessons, experiences, and ideas.
- 16:29And years from now, listeners may not remember every individual episode,
- 16:34but they may remember how your work made them feel.
- 16:38They may remember lessons they learned.
- 16:41They may remember moments that encouraged them when they needed encouragement.
- 16:45That's meaningful.
- 16:46That's lasting.
- 16:49When I look at Weird Al Yankovic's career, I don't see someone who's mastered parody music.
- 16:55I see someone who has mastered longevity.
- 16:57Someone who found a unique voice,
- 17:00committed to quality, adapted to change, respected his audience, stayed true to his values, and kept showing up year after year.
- 17:08Those lessons
- 17:09apply far beyond music.
- 17:11They apply to podcasts.
- 17:13They apply to business. They apply to leadership. They apply to life.
- 17:17So perhaps the greatest lesson podcasters can learn from Weird Al Jankovic is this.
- 17:23Don't focus solely on becoming successful.
- 17:27Focus
- 17:28on becoming sustainable
- 17:30because success can happen in a moment,
- 17:33but a meaningful creative career,
- 17:35man,
- 17:36it's built over a lifetime.
- 17:40Thank you for joining me today on this episode of Randy Unscripted.
- 17:43I'm so happy that you've taken the time out of your day to give it a listen.
- 17:47I would appreciate any feedback you might have. You can do that by commenting on the post on our website, randyunscripted.com
- 17:53for this episode. You could also send me an email, Randy@RandallBlack.com,
- 17:57and I'd be glad to hear whatever you have to share with me there, and I might even mention it on the show in the future.
- 18:04You could also if you're willing or wanting to support us in some way, you can head over to randyunscripted.com/support,
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- 18:20I appreciate every one of you again. I just wanna make sure that you know that. I appreciate those of you all of you because you listen. You take the time, the time out of your day to listen to what I have to say when I ramble on these things every week or so. So until next time, remember that this is Randy Unscripted.
- 18:36I'm Randy Black, and we'll be back again in the future for real talk,
- 18:40real life that is 100%
- 18:43unscripted.