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AEW Hot Topics | AEW Full Gear Preview & Predictions · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine Cognition sequence six five.
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  Speaker 2: Four three two one zero, all engine running. It's Tuesday.
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  Speaker 2: You know what that means. We are live on x
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  Speaker 2: and also live on Twitch as we are every Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: night at eight forty five Eastern Time with AW Panthub's
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  Speaker 2: Ignition podcast. This is Kelson and this is our AW
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  Speaker 2: Full Gear preview of Prediction Show. We are just days
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  Speaker 2: away now from the AW Full Gear pay per view,
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  Speaker 2: but first Tomorrow night brings us a special three hour
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  Speaker 2: combination Dynamite and Collision, and a lot of these matches
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  Speaker 2: seem to be having some implications on what's going to
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  Speaker 2: happen or some of the things that may happen at
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  Speaker 2: full gear. For example, we've got what is it Bobby
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  Speaker 2: Lashley and Ricochet in a match for the number one
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  Speaker 2: spot at the in the Casino Gauntlet match at full gear,
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  Speaker 2: and another example will be Speedball Mike Bailey and Shelton
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  Speaker 2: Bridgman for the number two spot in the same match.
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  Speaker 2: So let's talk first before we get to the full Gear,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about what's going to happen briefly at AW
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  Speaker 2: Dynamite AW Collision. Guys, do you see any new matches
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  Speaker 2: being booked for poorfol gear out of coming out of
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  Speaker 2: dynamite collision tomorrow night. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: I see three matches getting out Tyler O'Reilly versus John Moxley.
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  Speaker 3: They kind of hinted that that talision on Saturday, and
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  Speaker 3: I think it gets confirm tomorrow night, and then I
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  Speaker 3: think with the last two first round matches in the
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  Speaker 3: women's tag title tournament, they go ahead have the semi
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  Speaker 3: finals at full gear.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's that's really I particularly an agreement
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  Speaker 2: with you about O'Reilly and Moxley. Anybody else have any
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  Speaker 2: thoughts about this?
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  Speaker 1: I think if they're gonna have the semis at full gear,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna do the one in the beginning
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  Speaker 1: of the show and have the finals later on. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: why would you not want to do that on a
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  Speaker 1: on a pay per view?
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  Speaker 2: Now that makes sense and it doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't they do that with another belt up a few
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  Speaker 1: years ago? I can't remember which one it was, but
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  Speaker 1: they had a tournament, they had the semi finals at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the show and they had the finals
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  Speaker 1: at the end.
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  Speaker 3: What was that? They did it for the last year's
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  Speaker 3: Continental Classic.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that was what it was.
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  Speaker 3: So ye, yeah, they had the two the one Gold
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  Speaker 3: Block one versus Blue Block two Gold to beat Blue.
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  Speaker 4: One, Ricochet, Ocata and Fletcher Osprey.
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  Speaker 5: I was there for that.
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  Speaker 4: So that was the one where Osprey got busted open
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  Speaker 4: on the Fletcher match, and then they had the finals
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  Speaker 4: later that night where Osprey lost to Olcada.
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  Speaker 2: No, you bring up Okada. That brings up another interesting thing.
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  Speaker 2: Okada is facing Massacre Dorado or Dorata in a in
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  Speaker 2: a match tomorrow night. Now, the winner of that match,
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  Speaker 2: if Dorada wins, he gets a future shot at the
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  Speaker 2: Unified Championship. If Olcata wins that, don Kallis family gets
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  Speaker 2: a shot at sky Time, which is the CML L
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  Speaker 2: Trios Championship. Uh do you think the winner of that
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  Speaker 2: match do you think they bring that out the pool
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  Speaker 2: year because OCTA's Okada's not out pool gear.
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  Speaker 5: Is you know?
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  Speaker 4: I don't think so, because Derada, I think, is who
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  Speaker 4: I think Derada is.
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  Speaker 5: Going to win.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's a good chance Dorada who comes away
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  Speaker 4: with that national title coming out of the battle.
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  Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of people share that exact same opinion.
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  Speaker 4: Barry, Yeah, I think it one of the things that
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  Speaker 4: I've knocked AW for is when they work with other promotions,
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  Speaker 4: their AW wrestlers will win other promotions belts. But I
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  Speaker 4: can't think of a performer from another promotion.
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  Speaker 5: That's held an AAW belt.
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  Speaker 4: And as soon as they announced this, this is kind
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  Speaker 4: of how I thought the initial international title was going
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  Speaker 4: to work. That they're focusing on defending it overseas and
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  Speaker 4: the other promotions and blah blah blah. This is the
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  Speaker 4: perfect time Derada has been brought back on TV for
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  Speaker 4: a reason to remind everybody how awesome he is, and
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  Speaker 4: I think he's he from what I understand. Mistigo is
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  Speaker 4: also expected to show up on Saturday, but I would.
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  Speaker 5: Go with Dorata.
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  Speaker 4: He's younger, He's going to be able to work more dates.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's I think that's a good call for him.
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  Speaker 2: I totally.
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  Speaker 3: Also, he is part of sky Team, I mean, mister Coo,
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  Speaker 3: Derada and Neon Wait. I mean, I think it's one
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  Speaker 3: of those where you really can't go wrong if you
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  Speaker 3: do win tomorrow night and Talon Tocada later, or if
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  Speaker 3: you have Ocado win and get sky Teams on full
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  Speaker 3: gear against you know, three don Kallis guys who could
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  Speaker 3: you know they make it like well, Rocky in trin
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  Speaker 3: are busy, so remember Neon Neon. Yeah, I don't think
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  Speaker 3: it's freaking awesome.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is perfect for Dorada to lose
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  Speaker 4: with don Kalla's family high jinks. That sets up the
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  Speaker 4: trios match at Arena Mexico or something with with Dorada
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  Speaker 4: and Mestico. I'm positive they're going to be in the
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  Speaker 4: Casino Countlet. I don't see them being able to work
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  Speaker 4: a match on the show either.
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  Speaker 5: I think they're they do.
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  Speaker 3: I'm thinking about it, you know, as far as don
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  Speaker 3: Kallas family goes. I mean, like I said, Alexanders in
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  Speaker 3: the match with the Young Bucks, Rocky and Trent are
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  Speaker 3: on the Tailgate Brawl. Archer is already in Japan because
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  Speaker 3: he's going to be in World Tech League. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: sure what Hetchi Saro is doing, but it's like who
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  Speaker 3: would be in that match out and Kyle Fletcher's wrestling
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  Speaker 3: Mark Bristo, So who would you have Mark Davis, Hetchi Saro,
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  Speaker 3: and El. Yeah. Yeah, it would make more sense for
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  Speaker 3: Mystico and Dorada to be in the.
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  Speaker 4: UH And that's a that's a big time trios match.
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  Speaker 4: You can you can promote for CML too, you know,
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  Speaker 4: assuming they have it there and not in the States.
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  Speaker 2: For that.
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  Speaker 4: You want to you want to be able to put
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  Speaker 4: together a good team from the Calls family to take
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  Speaker 4: on those three.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, another you know, another match that's taking place
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  Speaker 2: tomorrow night on the aw Collision three hour block is
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  Speaker 2: the It's kind of an interesting match because, uh it's
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  Speaker 2: an r o H title match for the Women's TV
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  Speaker 2: Championship between the champion Red Velvet and the interim champion,
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  Speaker 2: Mercedes Monette. Of course, this event tomorrow night does take
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  Speaker 2: place in Boston, which we all know is Mercedes Monett's hometown.
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  Speaker 2: But I was a little bit it really doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: any implications for the gear pay per view, But what
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  Speaker 2: it does what I was a little confused about. I
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  Speaker 2: was for sure that they were going to save this
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  Speaker 2: match for Final Battle, which takes place in just a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks though, three like three weeks December fifth.
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  Speaker 2: Uh So, were you surprised that this match was added
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  Speaker 2: good Dynamite. Yeah, I mean, I mean I could see
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  Speaker 2: Martin Mercedes Monet doing a I don't know, a title
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  Speaker 2: defense TBS title title defense against Harley Cameron or somebody
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  Speaker 2: like that. I didn't see the title match, the r
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  Speaker 2: OH TV title match coming.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm a I'm a big Red Velvet fan. I
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  Speaker 4: think she's got a really good move set, she's fast,
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  Speaker 4: she cuts it good enough promo, she's very pretty. You've
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  Speaker 4: got a really good package for a performer. But she's
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  Speaker 4: been off main TV, so I agree with you, Kelson.
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  Speaker 4: I was kind of surprised this was a title match
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  Speaker 4: with Final Battle around the corner. But you can run
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  Speaker 4: this a couple different ways where there's no finish and
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  Speaker 4: then they have Round two and Final Battle if they're
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  Speaker 4: going to change the belts there. I think this is
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  Speaker 4: more about getting Red Velvet back on TV, assuming that
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  Speaker 4: they still want to have that match to the pay
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  Speaker 4: per view, because I agree, I think it makes more
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  Speaker 4: sense to do it there. So you have some sort
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  Speaker 4: of DQ or double count, you know, all sorts of
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  Speaker 4: things you can do. Let them go out there for
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  Speaker 4: ten twelve minutes, have fine, remind everybody how great Red
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  Speaker 4: Velvet is on TV, build some buzz for the pay
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  Speaker 4: per view for Final Battle, and then that's where the
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  Speaker 4: rematch happens, and you, you know, give them some decent
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  Speaker 4: time without a commercial break to.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's.
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  Speaker 3: Do we know what since it's a TV title, is
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  Speaker 3: it a shorter time limit? I don't know, because I
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  Speaker 3: know like the C and T is. I mean it's
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  Speaker 3: the and the TBS, which are essentially TV titles. They
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  Speaker 3: have a twenty minute time for Matt teams. I'm wondering
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  Speaker 3: if the R O H has.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, why could go to a draw? You're saying to me,
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  Speaker 2: go to a draw, which makes sense. Another thing that
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  Speaker 2: makes sense is for red Velt actually win by some
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  Speaker 2: kind of interference or something, or even a clean win
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  Speaker 2: and have a rematch. You don't have basically Mercedes pissed
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  Speaker 2: off that she lost one her belts, and UH have
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  Speaker 2: her have the rematch a final battle on December fifth.
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  Speaker 1: They're not gonna have Mercedes Maname lose anything in Boston.
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  Speaker 3: I tend to agree with you there. I will Statlander
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  Speaker 3: has been messing with Mercedes quite a bit. I told
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  Speaker 3: maybe a situation where she hijacks a bunch of Mercedes
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  Speaker 3: titles and Mercedes gets pissed off and goes after her
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  Speaker 3: and Red Velvet win by how now that could? I
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  Speaker 3: just I don't know why you would do this match, right,
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  Speaker 3: now when you have final battles coming up in a month,
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  Speaker 3: I get wanting to get Red Velvet back on TV,
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  Speaker 3: but you know it's not. Yeah, but the page has
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  Speaker 3: a TV deal, right, And also.
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  Speaker 1: He's not really getting her back on TV. It's getting
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  Speaker 1: her in front of the camera, yes, but it's not
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  Speaker 1: a TV Like you said, there's not a TV deal.
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  Speaker 1: So I just don't see them. I think they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: let Mercedes win it and then they'll have a rematch.
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  Speaker 1: She'll get a rematch at the next bout, and that
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  Speaker 1: might be when she loses it to Mercedes. Mercedes loses
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  Speaker 1: it to Red Velvet. I don't think they're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: any kind of loss of any kind from Mercedes tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: night being in Boston.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, let's move on to Full Gear. Before we
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  Speaker 2: get into the preview and prediction show, I'm curious, uh,
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  Speaker 2: what matches are you most intrigued about? On the Full
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  Speaker 2: Gear uh card, we'll talk about who we think are
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  Speaker 2: gonna win and who's gonna lose, and surprises, returns, whatnot,
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  Speaker 2: storyline anything. I just want specifically, I just want to know,
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  Speaker 2: right off the top of the bat, just which matches
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  Speaker 2: do you find the most intriguing on the Full Gear card.
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  Speaker 6: The Hangman versus Joe Canes match. I have my reasons
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  Speaker 6: for this, cross that bridge when we get to it,
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  Speaker 6: but that match, for reasons else expand on later.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, look forward to having that.
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  Speaker 3: I think the match has become a lot more interesting
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  Speaker 3: because it's not just a rematch at this point. With
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  Speaker 3: the heel turn, now the cage, it's become a lot
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  Speaker 3: more interesting than it would have been without all of
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  Speaker 3: those things happening. For me, I'd go for the national titles.
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  Speaker 3: What's always interesting. I was thinking it was a Castino
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  Speaker 3: Battle Royal, which we haven't had in a long time,
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  Speaker 3: but it seems save chosen the Casino Gauntlet in place
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  Speaker 3: of that. So that's my match I'm most interested.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, anybody else was their most intriguing match?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: All right? Then let's move right into the actual Full
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  Speaker 2: Gear pay per view, And of course we got to
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  Speaker 2: start off by talking about Hangman, anim Page and SMO.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Jess. You had said that you had something that
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  Speaker 2: you found most intriguing about this match, so share it
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  Speaker 2: with us.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I mean this match is going to be great
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  Speaker 6: on its face. Hangar is great.
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  Speaker 3: Joe is great.
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  Speaker 6: Cage matches are great, so this is gonna be a
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  Speaker 6: great match even if this doesn't happen. But I am
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  Speaker 6: pretty darn sure that one Maxwell Jacob Friedman will be
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  Speaker 6: returning and interfering in this match, and if I'm if
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  Speaker 6: my hunter is correct, I can't wait to see it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Jess, I don't well, since it's in a cage,
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  Speaker 2: I don't see how Friedman can interfere, but I do
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  Speaker 2: think he will show up, and I think he will
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  Speaker 2: announce that he's going to We're not announced, but tease
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  Speaker 2: that he's going to sign. Remember, m jeff still has
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  Speaker 2: that contract execute. He's got to do it seven days
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  Speaker 2: ahead of time, but he does still have the contract execute.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest with you, this is maybe
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  Speaker 2: the least intriguing match on the pay per view for
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  Speaker 2: me because it's been done before. You know, putting it
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  Speaker 2: in a steel cage makes it slightly more interesting, but
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  Speaker 2: after blood and guts, I mean steel cage, really, it's
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  Speaker 2: been done too much.
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  Speaker 6: That's why I've got my hat haus on Shanigans and
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  Speaker 6: don't think a little thing like a cage is going
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  Speaker 6: to stop MJF If he wants to do MJF things.
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  Speaker 6: He will bring a bolt cutter, he will do something
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  Speaker 6: to interfere in this match.
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  Speaker 3: Somehow. He is as little scumba.
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  Speaker 1: I agree he's coming back, but I think he's going
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  Speaker 1: to be in the Gauntlet match.
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  Speaker 2: To be honest, Huh, that's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: I have a feeling that you know, he's all about gold.
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  Speaker 1: He wants gold, you know, he wants the world titled. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: but he's not about putting. He's not beyond putting himself
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  Speaker 1: in a match that he can win gold. Now, So
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  Speaker 1: I I you know, I don't think I don't I
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  Speaker 1: think I gotta agree with Kelse on this. I don't
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  Speaker 1: see him interfering in the match. He might come out
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  Speaker 1: say something during the match to distract Hanger that would
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  Speaker 1: kind of maybe make the outcome in doubt. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking this match is pretty much everybody can predict
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  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in this match.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, Jason and Someding, maybe you'll agree with
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  Speaker 2: this too. Don't forget that this match is likely going
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  Speaker 2: to be the main event, which I don't believe it
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  Speaker 2: should be. But it's likely going to be the main event,
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  Speaker 2: which means it's going to take placed much later on
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  Speaker 2: in the show, which means that and this has happened
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  Speaker 2: before on aw pay per views, where the protagonist, which
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  Speaker 2: in this case would be Hangman Adam Page, may get
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  Speaker 2: mysteriously get the shit kicked out of him backstage before demand.
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  Speaker 2: You know, so there's always that, you know.
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  Speaker 5: I think this go ahead time.
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  Speaker 3: I think this message interesting because, like you said, it
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  Speaker 3: happened before, but we're in completely different situations this time.
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  Speaker 3: Before it was Joe, Joe walked in as the warrior
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  Speaker 3: King who knew he could beat this guy. Now Joe
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  Speaker 3: is not so sure. This is a different Hangman than
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  Speaker 3: he beat before. This is a guy who has been
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  Speaker 3: through so y and come out the other side, stronger, tougher,
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  Speaker 3: more determined. And now it ain't Hangman trapped in a
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  Speaker 3: cage with Joe, it's Joe trapped in a cage with Hangman.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't want to. He didn't want Hangman in a
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  Speaker 3: cage one on one. He wanted Hangman in a cage
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  Speaker 3: when he had Shabbata with him. Joe didn't want the
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  Speaker 3: cage match. He wanted to beat up Hangman ahead of
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  Speaker 3: the match. This is a completely different scenario from Russell Dreaton,
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  Speaker 3: and that's what makes it interesting. That's what you have
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  Speaker 3: to do if you're going to do just you know,
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  Speaker 3: the same opponents on back to back pay per views.
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  Speaker 3: They completely changed the story, the setting. They've made it,
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  Speaker 3: you know, more interesting with that. I think Hangman retains
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  Speaker 3: in a brutal, bloody battle, and I think we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: see Joe kind of lose it after once again failing
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  Speaker 3: to win the title off of a guy He thinks.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well yeah, Barrett Kelson, you had said something
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  Speaker 4: earlier that kind of triggered really a lot of what
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  Speaker 4: Time was just saying. And they're running this back, So
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  Speaker 4: when you run it back, typically you gotta get to
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  Speaker 4: add something new to juice it right. So clearly they
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  Speaker 4: did that in the cage match, but Time was getting
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  Speaker 4: at some of the stuff I was I was going
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  Speaker 4: to get at is Yeah, that's I think the cage
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  Speaker 4: is kind of window dressing to actually what's going on
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  Speaker 4: here and this is and it's been subtle, but really
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  Speaker 4: establishing Hangman as a new type of babyface. For way
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  Speaker 4: too long, the babyface Champion has just been a nerd.
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  Speaker 4: And when I say nerd, I'm ceiling like the Brian
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  Speaker 4: Alvarez where they just look like chumps. They fall for
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  Speaker 4: the stupid heel gimmicks and all this kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: But Hanger's taken the fight to the heels and he
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  Speaker 4: does it in a way that is smart.
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  Speaker 5: Like Joe wanted to put him in a cage.
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  Speaker 4: Fine, he challenged show to a cage, which is gonna
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  Speaker 4: make Joe look like an idiot if he backs out,
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  Speaker 4: Like this is the first time we've seen a babyface
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  Speaker 4: champion in AW really take it to the people that
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  Speaker 4: want his belt and challenge him. And the nice thing
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  Speaker 4: about Hanger is he's got that card that he can
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  Speaker 4: play and he's like, and don't think I'm not serious,
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  Speaker 4: I'll burn your house down, and like that's a threat
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  Speaker 4: that is legitimate in the canon of AAW. Like he's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: He can flip that switch and be a lunatic. And
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  Speaker 4: this match to me kind of paralleling what Time says
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  Speaker 4: is continuing that trajectory for Hangman, because at some point
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  Speaker 4: he's gonna lose, and I think that's the next chapter
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  Speaker 4: in his his story is does he go back to
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  Speaker 4: evil Hangman, you know, crazy Hangman, or does he continue
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: to just turn up babyface Hangman to thirteen and show
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: them just how nuts a good guy can actually be
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: to defeat evil. So I'm looking at this the same
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: way that time is is more of a new piece
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: of the Hangman chapter or Hangman's story to see, you know,
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: how do they how do they take that next step
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: for him? And I think this match is going to
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: say a lot does he does he take it to
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Joe and like leave him as bloody or just like
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: a pile of flesh or hopefully it's not fifty to fifty,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: But I think this is going to say a lot
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: about the direction they're going to take Hangar And and
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: I do anticipate a longer term feud with him in
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: MJF along the lines of what he ever swerve?
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I totally agree. I actually just had
• 20:42
  Speaker 6: this thought while you were talking. What brought out the
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: better angels of Hangman other than the people? And it
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: was will Osprey. Will Osprey actually did a great job
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: of being the world's most tet wrestling talented Jiminy Cricket.
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: He had a way of it.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: He was the common.
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, pretty much the conscience of aew. He brought out
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: the best in everyone he interacted with, or at least
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: tried to. Now the will's not here, how who is
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: there to keep hangers darker impulses in check. Nobody?
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that opens the door to a lot of possibilities. So,
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: you know, does Osprey come back in the first half
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: of next year on camera? You know, I don't think
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: he's going to be able to wrestle for a long time,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: but Tony was indicating they're hoping to have him back
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: in the first half of next year, So maybe that
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: transition begins in the spring. For Hangar, We've got rumors
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: that Swerve, you know, could be ready at least for
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: an on camera roll. Maybe not clear to perform, But
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: do they take that where he's actually the one that
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: talks some sense in the Hangar? I don't know, but
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: I think that along. I think who is it that
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: a couple of people had mentioned earlier that MJF may
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: pop up?
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: I think there's spot on. I don't know how, but
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: I think.
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: He's at some point or another where it's going to
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: be clear what the next steps are for MGF, and
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a feud with him
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: and Hanger.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: The only problem I have with what you guys are saying.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Is it to me that just keeps Hanger in the
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: same loop. He doesn't grow, he just does the same
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: thing over and over again. He's already done that. He's
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: already been evil Hanger. He's already done the burning down
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: somebody's house. If he's going to keep growing as a
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: as a as a character, and as a wrestler, you
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: can't keep repeating the same things, even if it's slightly changed.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: You just can't do that. He needs to take it,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: he needs to take it to a different direction. And
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I just don't see that. I just don't see that happening.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but it just doesn't make sense
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's kind of the point, though, Sutton,
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: this go ahead.
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: I was going to say, I think what Barry was saying,
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Barry,
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: it's not that he will, it's that he could, right.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Bingo, it's a it's a legitimate threat he can play.
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: But something I think you're right, Like the next chapter
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: is where does Hanger go?
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: He has that darkness inside him, and I see his
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: character always as keeping that some dude because when he
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: let it take over. He was miserable on camera. Usually
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: heals other than the dark, brooding kind that are like, oh,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: I'm scary, Like, they're not miserable. They think what they're
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: doing is great. Hangar looked miserable during his whole heel
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: run letting that darkness run over. And I think something
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: you hit on it like that could be part of
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: the story. Does he start dipping into that darkness? Who
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: brings him, who keeps him from going over that line?
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Who reminds him you're the ace right now of AW
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: like you are the heart of AW. You can't go
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: that way again. There's a lot of storytelling opportunities, and
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: I think you're right sudden. You can't just jump there.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: It's the journey, it's the threat, It's what's keeping him
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: on the good or in the light to use star
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: Wars like the what is it the Light side of
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: the Force or whatever? You know?
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: I'm rambling, Sorry, all right?
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Was there anybody else I wanted to share some thoughts
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: on the Hangman anim page and Samoa Joe match. Nope.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: The one thing that I will say that probably hasn't
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: been mentioned yet is that I truly believe this because
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Tony Kahan has done this in the past. Samoa Joe
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: is what I often referred to as a transitional challenger.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I don't believe he has any real shot of winning
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: this match, and if he does somehow win this match,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: it'll be a one week or one match rain kind
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: of thing. So Samoa Joe is a reliable wrestler, but
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I think the placeholder here is for MJF and nothing else.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Let's move on to arguably what could be the main event.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: There's a few matches on this card that could be
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: the main event. Chris Statlander against Mercedes Monette for the
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: a W Women's World Championship. How do you guys see
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: this one playing out?
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Two beltstet Actually she's already two built stets.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she'll be three belts?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she has.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: The TBF title. Isn't on the line though? Is it not?
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: Only for no?
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: No? That Statlander has the Pro Wrestling EVE International Championship
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: right now? She is the Eve International Champion. Of course,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: she's the a W Women's World Champion.
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: Do you Mercedes just win another belt too?
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Yes? She did. I think she has seventy two Now
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not really.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Sure it's only thirteen, but you were saying three belt sets.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: She couldn't be three because the TBF title is on
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: the line. It's only the aw Women's World Team.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: That's right, that's true.
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: That for some reason, I was thinking they both were okay,
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: I stand corrected.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: No, No, they're you're right. Yeah, the DBS title is
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: not on the.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Line because because Mercedes say she's already beaten Statlanders twice,
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: that hasn't beaten her, So why should Mercedes give stat
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: a chance at her title she's getting. She's challenging for
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Statlander's title because she knows she is better and can
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: beat her. Stat has to prove she can beat Mercedes,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: which I think she's going to do. And I think
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: this could I keep saying this could be the start
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: of Mercedes downfall. But having Statlanders started, you know, someone
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Mercedes has already beaten twice, and who came up and
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: won the title that Mercedes couldn't win and beat the
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: person Mercedes couldn't beat. Having Statlander rise up beat her,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of banished that demon and be the
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: one who kicks off Mercedes downfall is just great storytelling.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: And you know, if their last two Mets. Is there
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: any indication this one is going to be awesome? And
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it so much, and it definitely
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: could main event. I think stat Lander wins this and
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: it really cements her as KAMPI.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: You know, I want to put a little bit out
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: there about this main eventing the show. The reason why
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: I do think that it's your main event. Look, samo
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Joe has main invented a pay per views before, Hangman
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: had a page of courses, main invented aw pay per
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: views before. Let's legitimize the women's division by putting them
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: in the main event. I mean, it's just something that
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I think that is long overdue in AW. I really do.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I don't see that. And the reason why I say
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: that is this, if they have the semi finals of
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: the Tag Team Championship for women's tag teams on the
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: beginning of the show, that should be your main event.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Because you're crowning new champions of new belts. That would
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: make more sense to have is to legitimize that division.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: They should have that be the main event. That's just
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: my opinion.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: I don't think you're wrong Suddon as far as kind
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: of that approach. I think the just is the main
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: event needs to be what leads into or what is
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: the most important story you're trying to tell, and it's
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: not a coincidence. Typically the main event will be when
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: there's a champion being crowned, or Tony likes to on
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: pay per views where no belts are going to change.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: He typically has the order men's heavyweight, women's heavyweight, one
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: of you know, the men's tag title is the top
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: three matches or something. So whatever the main event is,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: it's going to be a story. And I don't think
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: it'll be the finalist of the tag divisions. I don't
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: think that's the way they're going to go. But if
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: it is the men's cage match, which makes the most
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: sense because you got to put the cage up and
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: you gotta put the cage down, blah blah blah, there
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: should be a big time angle coming out of it.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: And if it's not, then whatever match is in there.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: If it's the women match, we may be seeing a
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: title changer. So I think will be a disaster.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: But well it's got to be.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: It's they got to run an angle off of it,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: and that's that's true traditionally how they run it, so
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: I don't think Sutton's off.
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: It's just a question of which match they go.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Well, there is a little history here with title changes
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: of full gear, especially in the women's division. In twenty
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: twenty three Full Gear twenty twenty three, which took place
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: two years ago today November eighteenth, twenty twenty three, twenty
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Storm defeated Karoshida to become the three time at that
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: time the three time AW Women's World champion, and Julia
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Hart defeated Chris Statlander and sky Blue to become the
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: TBS champion. And so we did see at Full Gear
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, we did see two title changes in
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: the AW women's division on that one pay per view
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: anybody else in that the opinions on the Statlander money match.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: You've been quiet? Got anything for us?
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: No, I've just been I've just been quiet. I'm just
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: I'm just thinking. So I don't really have anything yet.
• 30:29
  Speaker 8: And also I.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: Have to be a little quieter.
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: Where I moved to is in the flight a flight path,
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: and there are quite a few planes flying ahead, and
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: I don't want it.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: To message oh gosh, yeah, recording. Yeah, I want to
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: make sure we weren't stucking up all the oxygen.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Well no, no, hopefully if a plane flight flies overhead
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: it enhances what you're saying. You know, well, well maybe
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: if top flight was in the in the pay per view,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: there you go.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what's happening.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: All right. That well, let's move on to another title match.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Uh in this there's a lot of title matches in
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: this uh in this pay per view at boll Gear
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Brodido versus f t R for the a W World
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Tag Team title. How do you guys see this one
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: playing out?
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: Retains next?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Really that was kind of a short and sweet uh
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: uh hypothesis. I guess does anybody disagree with with jess
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: on this one?
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: I know I'm not gonna say I just agree. I'm
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: honestly not to who's gonna win this. I'm gonna be
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: rooting for BROC Fedo. But FTR could be the teams
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: in their reign and this is one of those. You know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: If Rodido wins, they beat one of the best tag
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: teams of all time. If FTR wins, Rodido loses to
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: one of the best tag teams of all time. There's
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: really no downside to this, at least in my opinion.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I know some people just don't like FTR for whatever reasons.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not one of those people. I think they're, like
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: I said, one of the best tag teams of all time.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: This is one of those matches I want a specific
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: team to win, but I'm gonna be happy no matter
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: what because i know it's going to be a great match.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kinda kind of with you on this. A
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: to me, this is a lot like the rematch. I
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: think of this a lot like the men's heavyweight title rematch.
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: I think the long term program is FTR versus co
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: con Christian. When they come back to that, the question
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: is is that going to be for the titles. I
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: could see Tony wanting to put the titles on Edge
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: or Copen Christian or Copeland and Chrishian or whatever he's
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: going by now. To do that, they got to take
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: it off somebody where it's significant, and that feud is
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: naturally with FTR. So if Tony's ready to pull the
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: trigger on that because Copeland's done doing whatever he's doing,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: I could see FTR getting the win, or if they
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: hold off for another month, have Broddo get the win
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: and then FTR wins on the rematch. It's been a
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: fun ride for Broddo, and I think there's some more
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: juice they can get out of that. So I'm hoping
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: they retain and then FTR picks up the belts on
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: a rematch, because I really think them having the tag
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: titles will make their feud with Copen Christian more entertaining
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: and give it more stakes. But they don't need them,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: so you know, maybe Brodido retains and they go in
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: a different direction. But I'm like you, Tom, I think
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: it's a win win. I could see both directions. It's
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: just depending on if they want to have those titles
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: as part of the feud. We all know that's coming
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: or not, and if they don't, then will retain. If
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: they do, then I think FTR either gets it this
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: one or in the rematch. Hey, maybe they do rematch
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: on TV, you know, make a big deal out of it.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: Top rated.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: So yeah, maybe I oversimplified. I just couldn't bear the
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: thought of Bandido's adorable little Lobuela watching watching her grandson
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: and her grandson's great big scary friend lose.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: They're just so over I can see.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: To expand on that a little bit, is this this
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: is not a clean win. I think that if they're
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: going to involve Coping Christian in this, they come out
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: interfere somehow cost FTR the match, reignite the battle with them,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: and there ends up being possibility of a three way
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: match down the road on TV that then leads to
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: FDR versus Coping Christian at the next pay per view.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know, but for whatever reason and my gut,
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: I see FDR win this match. I don't know why.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: It's just a gut feeling. I have no reason for
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: thinking that FTR is going to win this match other
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: than just that gut feeling. Anybody else with thoughts on
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: this match? All right? Then let's move on to the
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: proto star Kyle Fletcher against Mark Briscoe for the A
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: W T N T Champion Chip I wait, I apologize.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I didn't say Kyle Fletcher's full name full name Kyle
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Marie Fletcher against Mark Briscoe from not on. Whenever I
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: say Kyle Fletcher's name, I'm gonna come up with a
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: different middle name because I don't know what his full
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: name is. Is Kyle Fletcher's full name?
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: Maybe he doesn't have a middle name.
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: Well, he's.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Well I don't think that first and last name is
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: a full name for Kyle Fletcher. Maybe for all the time.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: You know, so you have Don Marie All.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: That's a star Kyle. Sorry, I forget, I can't Kyle.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: F There you go. Well, let's hear what your thoughts
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: are on this match comes the winner.
• 36:23
  Speaker 6: I absolutely adore Mark Briscoe that said there is no
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: way the proto star Kyle Herbert Walker cannebunk Fort Fletcher
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: is losing this match.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: Pop for Herbert Walker digest.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's his name.
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: You said that, And I'm like, oh.
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, especially like as soon as they put that
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: little stipulation that Mark has to join the Kallous family,
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: I'm like, that's what's happening. Mark's not winning.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: Butler.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: Brisco I told you they got to do the Butler storyline.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Something.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: They've got to do the Butler storyline.
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: I want, I want Don Kallas to present him a
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: Butler suit. I'm like, make sure you're in this next week.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: And he comes in next week with the sleeves cut off.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: And yeah, short, Don's like, you got to be presentable.
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: So he does that and he cuts the sleeves off.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: That I mean that's perfect, Like you could just God,
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: there's so much you can mind, so much good fun.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: And the thing is if he loses time like like
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: because that's a whole new angle in life. To the
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Don Kallis family, we've not really been able to enjoy
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: them and and a lot of them have very good
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: comedic timing, especially Don and you know Risco does too.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: You can work that in like this rematch's like, yeah,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: I want to guy, It's it's going to be hard
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: for me to stub with Briscoe losing it again. It's like,
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: you know whatever, But you play the rest of the
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: story like people are going to be dying for him
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: to get Fletcher this time, and then that's when you.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Pull the trigger.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Fletcher will have a long enough rain, it's time to
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: elevate him and Maine events seen after that. But if
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: they go with Briscoe winning, like the comedic stuff they
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: can do for a couple of months to really really
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: make us want this, like Kyle's bullying him.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: They're just there's a lot of possibilities there.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's way more to do with There's way more
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: to do with Briscoe losing than Briscoe wins. Plus he's
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: just like Kyle Fletcher mentioned. Win he wins that full gear,
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: he passes the title defense record, have him do that,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: get more and then you can have a you know,
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: by a red hot baby face the title from him
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: after you know, that's the next paper or at Revolute,
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: you know, or or then you can you can have
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: it where Mark Briscoe costs.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: That's what I was just thinking. He cut from the
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: title and then their match if he wins, if he
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: beats Kyle after that, it's for his freedom to get
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: out of the don kallispan exactly.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: You don't need the title in their final match. You
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: need it for Briscoe's freedom. You need brisco to mess
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: with the don Kallas family never want to do what
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: they want, cost him matches. It's just there's so much
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: more to do with brisco losing than winning. If brisco wins, okay,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: he gets his first title, he has a nice little reign,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: and then he loses to somebody and that's it.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: I would immediately, so I just thought about it. I
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: would start immediately and like as soon as he loses,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: they start bringing bags out, they make him like.
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: They just immediately start treating it.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you right off the bat at that match and
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: like just start that angle immediately at the end.
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: Of that match.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, sorry, well no, I.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Was gonna say we kind of overlooked something on Dynamite.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: We talked about there being the match between for the
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: who is not head to stair who is it that's
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: wrestling Okada. We kind of overlook the fact that there's
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: another angle in the Dawn Kados family that's unresolved. It
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: could have an effect on the paper view because you
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: still have Tekeusta and Ocado's stuff that has to be resolved,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: and you know they could end up tomorrow night having
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Takesha get involved in that match, and you know, you
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: guys talked about them winning the chance at the at
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: the Trio's match. That's good. He could he could end
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: up getting involved without costing Ocada the match, but then
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: it could set up a match between them at the
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: at the Paper.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Or that's part OF's face turn as he ends up
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: helping Mark Briscoe along the line too after he loses.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: That's too far off.
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: I would I wouldn't be.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: I think they're saving the Okada to catch the match
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: for Worlds in the Continental Classic finals and to beat Okada,
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: which would be man he wins the g one. The
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: only problem I had the Continental Classic, that the and
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: the i w g P title all in the same year.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: That's that's the problem I have with that idea, because
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: as long as Takesha has the i w GP title,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: you don't want him losing any matches in a w
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: because if you have the new Japan's Champion losing matches
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: in a w that desecrates their title. So if you
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: have to match with them, you're gonna have to either
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: have to catch to lose that title before then, or
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: not have him in the in the in the Classic,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: because if you put him in the Classic, that's too
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: much that you're gonna have. You're you're pretty much going, hey,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: remember when we put Eddie Kingston in here and he gave.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: Him all those wins.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: You're just doing the same thing with it later on.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: The difference is Tikester is one of the best wrestlers
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: in the world and Eddie Kingston's bomb.
• 42:15
  Speaker 7: I get that, But you're saying but you're saying to
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: the block, but you're saying to the fans if you
• 42:24
  Speaker 7: put if you have the i w GP title on
• 42:27
  Speaker 7: Takeshta during and he's in the Continental Classic, you're guaranteed him.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Not to lose a match.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: You know it's coming from.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: You can put him up against everybody and you can
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: go ahead and just give him wins. And you don't
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: want that in that tournament. It's been that way every year.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: You don't want to continue to do that because then
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: that tournament loses face.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: I slightly disagree because Okada has not gone undefeated last year.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: And you can eat a loss if you do it
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: the right way to the right performer. If for some
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: reason Kenny Omega was in it and he drops to Kenny,
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: that's fine whatever, but that you can work it.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: But to your point, Sudden like, that's it. One loss.
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: And the reason I say that is is they're not
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: scared to beat me inventors in the G one.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: You know, big time names and stuff in those in
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: those two. But you have to keep.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Them strong and and a rub with a loss to
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: the i W g P champion, he can even be
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: a count out or some other thing with the rules whatever.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: But I think off topic, this is.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: This is more of a pop. This is more of
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: a potpri session. Sudden that was Sudden was not smart
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: bringing that up. But they're in the bridge, you know,
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: look to bring it to bring bring it back on track. Uh.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think that there is any chance that Mark
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Briscoe defeats Kyle Dwayne Alizondoo Do Camacho Fletcher for the
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: TNT Championship. It's just that simple. I don't think there's
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: any scenario where that happens. It something bigger is coming
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: up for Fletcher. What it is, I don't know, but
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: something bigger is coming up. Mark Briscoe is just not it. Now.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: If Mark Briscow does somehow come away with the TNT Championship,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I think that does. I hate to say this, but
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: I do believe it weakens the TNT Championship. But it
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: does free up Kyle Fletcher to go forth to Let's
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: say MGF doesn't show up and Pegman annam Page needs
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: somebody to feud with. Kyle Fletcher's a good choice, That's
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: all I'm saying.
• 44:50
  Speaker 6: Oh, we're all in agreement that the proto star Kyle,
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: Luisa Contessa, Maria Francesc Banana, Mana A Flo Fesca, the
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: third Fletcher is going to win this match.
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: No, for the record, I don't know who's gonna win.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: I hope Risco loses because I want to see the
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: Butler angle that I've been saying they should run for
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: a long time.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yes it is.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: But to Colson's point, I do think if Brisco wins.
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: I like Mark a lot. He's perpetually over. I don't
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: see him as a champion.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Well, you know. The other thing that I do want
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: to say is that you know, and I think it
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: was time to brought this up earlier. Letcher has eight
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: successful TMT title defenses. One more would give him the record.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: If he has a successful defense, one more would get
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: him the record. And with a race right now, the
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: record is eight and it's held by three different wrestlers, Darby, Allen, Miro,
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: and Cody. Cody and Miro are no longer with AW, obviously,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: and it seems to be recently that Tony CON's been
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: on quite a role with getting x AW wrestlers off
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the record books. This would be a good opportunity to
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: get yet another couple of AW wrestlers off the AW
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: record books. We just had j Cargill's record broken by
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Mercedes Monett, thank goodness. And that's the stick. Let's move
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: on to what you know the Casino Gauntlet matches in AW.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's ever been a bad one, whether
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: it's on a pay per view or if it's on
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: regular TV. They always hit, and they hit just right.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to this match. This match, of course,
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: is to crown the inaugural AW National champion. I think Barry,
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: wasn't you et Ceter earlier that maybe Maskar Dorata would
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: be a really good choice. I love that. I love
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: that pick. I really do uh interested to hear you
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: know somebody else's picks. Who do you who would you
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: like to see as as the first international champion in.
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: A w EDI.
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: That was my pick too.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: I had initially said Claudio, but now you know now,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: thanks a love, Barry. Now I won't Master Derada to win.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: So it's time another promotion as an AW belt.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: It's time.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Well then, well then.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: She's gonna be busy. I think I think she got
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: started on something else. Yeah, I had said Claudio, and
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: I still think he'd be a good choice, but I
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: do kind of I like, we're we're very exciting with
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: Master Dorata, and you know, putting the belt on a
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: non AW guy to start would be a really interested move.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: And you know, Tony Kain said he wants us to
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: be a belt that travels. Master Dorads wrestled in New Japan.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: You know he's wrestled in obviously, he wrestled mainly in CMLL.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: But I'm sure rev Pro would love to have him,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: you know, I now as I think about it, Yeah,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: or or Mistico. Mistico would be a great choice as well.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: You know, he's another guy who has wrestled in New Japan.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure he's done rev pro shows. You know,
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's opposed to working some bigger American
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: independent shows. Oh, I'm not gonna say one specific person.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say my top three choices right now are
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: Claudio Derada and just a completely out of left field Richish.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Interesting. All right, so we already heard a couple of
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: Eddie Kingston's god uh, anybody else have an intelligent pick?
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't think it's gonna be
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: anybody outside of of of an actual a w person
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: for the inaugural win Pan Housen.
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: Oh, that's another good one.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of gonna say I agree kind of with what.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: Was just said.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I think it might be uh the title they put
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: on Ricket.
• 49:43
  Speaker 9: I mean, he's kind of he's kind of been doing
• 49:46
  Speaker 9: this right thing with this, with this the way they've
• 49:49
  Speaker 9: been doing this thing now, and it might be the
• 49:52
  Speaker 9: time to put a title on him because it's not
• 49:54
  Speaker 9: it's not a non important title, but it's not like
• 49:57
  Speaker 9: the top title, and it might be a way for
• 49:59
  Speaker 9: him get his first Golden aw You.
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: Think this needs I've said a couple of times that
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: there needs to be a title that moves around more.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: I think they have two longer runs. I thought the
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: mid card belts are going to be for that. But
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: if you're gonna have a title that bounces between promotions,
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: this is the one to do it with. To your point,
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: Sutton or even to time, I think Claudia would be
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: really good. I'm totally cool with that, and and I'm
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: totally cool with with Ricochet getting it. But what if
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: they are the ones that win it off Derada? You know,
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: I think I think going back and forth between another promotion,
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: both of them would be perfect champions. They can both
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: defend overseas, they've all worked overseas, they've worked in other countries.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: I think those are good. I think that's the tier
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: people that need to have this kind of belt. But
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: I just I don't see a downside having Dorata won it.
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: He's over, he's been on TV a lot. There's a
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: reason he's going to be on TV this week again.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: Clearly they're going to use him on Saturday if they
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: put it on them. CMML is a great promotion, arguably
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: the hottest in the world right now outside of w
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: w E, and you want to keep that relation super strong.
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: It's easy to travel down to Mexico to do matches too,
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: as opposed to going to Japan or somewhere else. So
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: if they go with somebody outside of a W I
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: think that's the call.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: I think I got a name that might be even
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: worse than Eddie Kingston impossibly, not impossible, who hasn't been
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: around for ages and keeps talking about leaving and ain't
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: left yet. Chris Jericho is God.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I to be honest with you, I had thought about
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Chris Jerico.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: I am a christ in my opinion, He's one of
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: the all time great Hell to the motherfucking know.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: M Okay, well, okay, I would rather keep everybody everybody
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: be quiet real quick, so that uh okay, now, carry
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: on because I got to edit that.
• 51:58
  Speaker 10: Out like god, Like I said, and you know the
• 52:07
  Speaker 10: guy that everybody's forgetting it does, Big Bill's.
• 52:11
  Speaker 4: Gonna say that when they stopped talking, that that's my
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: dark horse, that's big Bill.
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with you.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: I think it's.
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: Seriously, I think mine.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: Horse tick.
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: Oh, that's not a bad call. Es, that's not a
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: bad call at all.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Ultimately, Ultimately, I would like to see somebody that has
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: not had a singles belt in a w whin this.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: It could be somebody that's a better trios champion like Claudio,
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: or even a tag team champion. But I love the
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Mascara Dorata pick uh. You know, there's just so many
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: people speedball, Mike Bailey, Kevin Knight.
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: Uh, Bobby Lashley, Shelton Benjamin.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: These are all people that I think would do well.
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I would like to go younger, so I would if
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: not masskar Dorood, I would love to see Mike Bailey
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: or Kevin Knight, to be honest with you.
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, this is where there's like a dozen ways
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: they could go and it would be hard to say
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: any of them are wrong. Right, I'm looking forward to
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: this match. Just see who always in it. And who
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: wins it. You know I have when I said I
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: have my picks, i'd like but this is one of
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: those bats man, I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy.
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: I think it's just throw something out there.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: This is the one I'm looking to move forward to.
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: I want to throw something out there.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: So I believe Nito was supposed to par in an
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: Indie promotion this week and had to pull out for
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: some reason.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: I think you were gonna be a wXw.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I I don't think there's a chance like that's
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: where they put the title on him, but as a
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: surprise entrance, I think that would be I would.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: I don't think n likes coming to America at all.
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: And also, you know, I mean his time in c
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: MLLL was. I mean, you know that's he does where
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: he opened his eye is because during his extended stay
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: in CMLL, that's what the Mexican fans did to like
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: haunt him straight up a little racist.
• 54:37
  Speaker 5: I think just at one time appearance. I don't think.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: I don't mean for the belt, but sometimes it's fun
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: to just have like that's one of the things that
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: the rumbles always fun. With w w's you get some random
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: or you know celebrities. Yeah, one thing coming in. Yeah, yeah,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: that's what I mean.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: I know forever if yeah, if if Nito shows up,
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: I would scream positive if Jericho.
• 55:06
  Speaker 11: Came up, yeah it did would if you guys watched
• 55:16
  Speaker 11: or heard Tony Kahn's interview today with Arielwani.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Ah Hajwani brought up a bunch of names, uh, and
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: a couple of names that he did throw out was
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: one was Chris Jericho, and Tony Kahan was pretty.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say he danced around it, but
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: it didn't. It kind of gave me the impression, Oh, yeah,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Jericho's back, but he just doesn't want to say that
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: he's back, you know what I mean? Does that make
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: sense to you?
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: He d he's kind of vague about it.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: If we could make the dates to work and that's all.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: But there was somebody else that he said that he
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: kind of danced around it and just you know, for
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: some reason when he said talked about this when he
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: was asked about this person by Holwani. Uh, I just
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: don't think that Tony Kahan was being on the up
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: and up. I could be wrong, but I think it
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: was protecting the story and that was Carrie and Cross.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: I would be surprised at all if Carrion Cross showed
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: up in this match as a surprise entrant.
• 56:33
  Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised at all.
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: I think having one shot like cardonas and stuff or fine.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: I don't want to see him sign.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: Well I'm not saying to be in sign I'm saying
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: he's gonna show up in this match.
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, that's fine. Just like Nito.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: I don't want to see night Too signed either, But
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: if he shows up, I'm gonna pop. I mean, that's
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: the point that he said, you have a little fun
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: with him, you know, to've done that before.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, you know. I mean it's what you do.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: The point of the matter is is that this kind
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: of match, as I said in the opening of this,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: it doesn't miss. These matches are always fun. And I
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: think that Casino Gauntlin is one of the one of
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: the premiere a W matches. You know, I really do.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: It's it's it's similar to the Royal Rumble, but different
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: in the structure to where it's its own thing, and
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: I think he's got two signature matches.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: The stadium Stampede and the Gauntlet match.
• 57:44
  Speaker 5: I think you're spot on, Coston.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's been far too long since we've done
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: a stadium stampede and aw, by the.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Way, we really need one, We really really stadium stamp
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: aids last anarchy in the arena where they're.
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, same thing. Good point, they had.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: Any in the arena two long ago.
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: It's the same match at double or nothing in football stadiums, right,
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: that's the different.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, Yeah, the whole reason they had stadium stampede
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: was during the pandemic because they had the Jaguars Stadium
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: right there. Once they were once they no longer had
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: the stadium right there, they moved, they switched over to
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: an art in the arena.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Right, and don't forget what the stadium with the stadium stampede. Well,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: but it's not really off topic because we were talking
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: about Casino Gautlet being a really great novelty match and
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: stadium stampede is too. The other thing with stadium stampede,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: especially when they did it in Jaguars Stadium, I mean
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: that wasn't a that was a production, that wasn't a match.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: I mean they filmed that over two days a matter
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: of fact, if you've read the book, uh, this is
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: all lead. Uh they actually finished that match. I believe
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: they said it like a five thirty in the morning
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: is when they finished the stadium to that bead match.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a pretty interesting thing. But let's
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: move on this one. This match is interesting to me.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: Pack versus Darby Allen. This is the first match since
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: we've been previewing Full Gear where there isn't a title
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: on the line, but it sure seems like a title
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: match to me. I don't know how you guys feel
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: about it. I'm gonna I'm gonna withhold. I'm gonna withhold
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: my my prediction, my prediction. Here go ahead.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: I'm excited for this one. I think it's gonna I
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: think Pak is gonna beat hell out of Darby Allen.
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, which is kind of comment in at Darby
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: Allen actually means, to be honest, ninety of his matches
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: is him getting his ass beaten and doing a few
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: crazy moves and coming back. But I think Hawk needs
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: this win, and I think Hawk winning is going to
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: be a catalyst for the death writers looking at Moxley like, well,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: you couldn't beat him, but he did the guy anymore?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Let me interrupt you here because if you look at
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: the if you look at the the whole thing here,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: one of the one of the things that stands out
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: is where's Moxley? Is Moxley even in this pay per view?
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: And if he is, he's not being he's not being
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: heralded too much. My point being is do you think
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: that this is UH? Look, people have been talking about
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: the downfall Moxley, not as a wrestler, but as the
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: leader I guess of the I almost said the Black
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Bull country Club, which is why I which is why
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: I used to screw up the Black Buol Combat Club
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: back in the day. Now I can't even say Death Writers.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: I'm saying Black Bull country Club. Do you think that?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know about you, Dan, And I'd like to
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: hear other people's opinions, But for I think Pack has
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: taken over somewhat of a leadership role in the UH
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: and the Death Writers and UH. I'm just interested to
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: see if anybody else sees that. And of course we
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: want to talk about the match.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with the same here. Like I said
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: at the start, I think Mosley will be facing Kyle
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: O'Reilly which could be really interesting if O'Reilly beats them again,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: because then if that mass happens and O'Reilly wins, which
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: is very possible, and then Puck beats Darby Alvin. Yeah,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: I think that is like the guest writers are really
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: gonna be like, why are we following you? When you
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: gave up against Hangman? Have you know itit'ched out of
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: two match. You fished out of your match against Bill Riley,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: you fished out of your match against roder Strong. You're
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: the one who tapped out in blood and guts. You
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: couldn't beat him again tonight. U you tapped out against
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: Darby Allen and Pak beat Darby Allen.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Now, so I think.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: Both of those things are very possible, and we'll have
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: the death writers looking at Pawk as like, maybe he's
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: the guy we should be following. Maybe you know, he
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: just ain't it anymore?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for that reason, and then I'll go ahead and
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: make my my pick here for the reasons you just stated.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's any way that Pack loses this
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: match gainst Darby Allen.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be a It's probably gonna be our
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: designated Sicko match of the night, which so I'm very
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: much looking forward to that. It's gonna be hilazious. But yeah,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 6: it makes the most narrative sense for Po to come
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 6: out on top on this one.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 8: I think Pak is gonna win too. But I have
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 8: a question for everyone. Have you all noticed that Pock
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 8: and Juice Robinson dress alike?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: Have you ever they do?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 6: Have you ever seen Pocket the time?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 8: No, I have not seen them at the same time,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 8: but they dress exactly alike. Now that that Poc has
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 8: switched to pants, he and Juice Robinson have the same outfit.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 8: Watch it and you'll see it. You're upset, then.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: A Pock.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I enjoyed it, and they moved the sauna.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I he's perfetially in a saua just at.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 8: I think he is. He should get he should get
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 8: some kind of endorsement.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Deals are so visible. He goes in the snore.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: I think you're spot on.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: I think I think Pac wins for all the reasons
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: everybody else outlined. They're pushing him. I think it's I
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: don't think it's a coincidence. He's been talking more. They've
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: been trying to improve his aura a little bit. As
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: a smaller guy. He needs that badly to be believable
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: as a top fellow because he's shorter. So they've been
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: really focusing on that. And I do think it's along
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: the lines of what you said. I it's not going
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: to be I don't think it will be a beatdown
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: on Moxley where they turn. I think it's going to
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: be one at a time and they start following Pac
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: and Marina will be the last one and it's going
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: to lead. Yeah, it's going to leave mox on his own.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: She will be the last one to turn and follows.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: Kind of look at the group. I mean, there's other
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: ways they can look at this.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's I don't think I can see
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Derby winning this because of Mox. I could see him
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: coming out to do the death Rids thing and costing
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Pack the match, and then that can lead into I mean,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: there's a couple of different ways they can go with this.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: If you if you, if you have Derby loos to me,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: it kind of tarnishes the work he's been doing against
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: the Death Riders because.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: You're cashing in the capitol they've built with him. That's
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: the point one.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: Because everybody like you're you're using the capital you've earned
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: with with with Derby here.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: I just I just see it happening different.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: I just see it.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: I think that.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 5: But what's the motivation for Max to do that?
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 12: Because it's a Death's death writer. Here's the motivation. He's
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 12: coming out like the always do. Death writers always come
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 12: out and interfere in the matches. So they come out
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 12: to interfere.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: And he makes a mistake, can cost Pack the match?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Pop then gets you know that least on purpose. It's
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: not that he does it on purpose.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: It's an accident. It's something that either he goes to
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: the Derby in the corner and Marx us there with
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: the chair, or you know, gets reversed and he nails Pop.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: It needs to. I just I don't see you.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: Killing Darby's momentum, beating the death Riders at this point.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Well, also keep in mind that we have a three
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: hour Dynamite Collision tomorrow night, and something could happen. We
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: could get that Kyle o'reiley and John Moxley match. Maybe
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: there's a stipulation and maybe Moxley comes out there and
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: he proves that he's the man and beats Kyle o'reiley.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: But meanwhile, tomorrow night, maybe you have a conversation between
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Pack and at Moxley where Pack basically says, how about
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: not losing this time? And it pisss Moxley off. It's
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: like the catalyst that you know, pisses Moxley off to
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: the point where he can't lose, and now he's now
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: he's not as mad at Kyle O'Reilly. He's more mad
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: at Pack. Yeah, you know, there's there's all kinds of
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: things that can happen tomorrow night in this story, is
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: I think the commonality is we all want to see
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: an internal feud between Pac and mox whatever way they
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: run it, I think that I think everybody's in agreement.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: That's that's what people want to see it. They want
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: to see friction and the death writers in a fight
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: for leadership.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Regardless, you also forget you also forget.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: The one thing that they mentioned during the match on Wednesday.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: The first time they were in a match together, there
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: was friction between Poc and Claudio. They actually attacked each
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: other in the first match. They brought that up in the.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: So uh when they were in Blood and Gods before. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: straight up walk out of the mat.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a bunch of different right. Yeah that was
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: a black that was a Blackpool Combat Club, and yeah,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: back abandoned them.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: It was before packet, right, But that's that doesn't mean
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: anything because it was still something that happened to them
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: as a group, and that could lead to something.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is another one of those matches that
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: there are so many things that could happen that it
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: makes it worth watching because you just don't know what
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: is going to happen in this match.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of moving parts in this one, a
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: lot of changing years.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: Did you have something wanted add?
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that's okay. I was gonna say that. I
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 8: don't think that Marina will be the last one to
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 8: leave Moxley. I think it's gonna be wheel Er you to.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 8: I think he's gonna hang with Moxley and till the
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 8: very end. I can see Marina getting frustrated and walking away.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 8: But I think Wheeler you'da is really that holdout.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: Oh I like that?
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Wheeler You'd punk side kid. Yeah, and he's
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: gonna stick by his side, like that's the guy. I mean,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 3: he basically sold his soul to Mosley you like, because
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: you know, was a Brian Danielson guy. So when he
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: turned on Brian Danielson, he basically gave everything to Mosley,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: became exactly his mentor. Maxley became his daddy, right.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: But Wheeler now is not the Wheeler that joined the
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: Blackpool Combat Club. Wheeler now is a toady. That's his character.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: Wheeler will side with whatever team appears to get the
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 4: advantage first. If it's Pack and Claudio, He's going to
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: follow them. He will not be the last one he
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: I would predict He'll be one of the first ones
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: to go to join the new Hotness and be with
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: who he thinks is the Alphans, because he that's his character.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: He's a toady and so he's going to go with
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: who he thinks the top dog is. I think I
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: do think if it's not Marina's the last one. The idea,
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 4: like you were saying with Wheeler, Garcia is the one
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: that Mox brought into the group, and Garcia kind of
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: idolizes Mox. I could see maybe Garcia being the last one,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: But from a narrative standpoint, I think Marina turning will
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: have the most weight out of all.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 6: I think, Oh, I was gonna say, like, that's interesting, Barry,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 6: because I was thinking the opposite. Basically, if you'll remember,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 6: Danny told Daddy Magic basically that it wasn't that you
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 6: didn't like him, he just wanted to go with somebody stronger,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 6: which last yeah, yeah, which basically like yeah paints sort
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: of paints in my mind Danny as that sort of
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 6: opportunistic one who will probably want to be one of.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: The first boy.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: Be one of the first to join a park's side.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 6: And I think, uh, I think that's right. I think
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 6: one of the last holdouts, if not the last holdout,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: will be you.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: Don't I think you didn't Danny are out first, because
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Danny was already showing signs of one of having problems.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: After Blood and Guts, Oh.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he gave like mocks that death glare.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: I don't see him staying very long. I think he's
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: gonna take this this if there starts to be cracks
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: in it, I think it's going to be Dani need
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: you to go out as a tag team, because they
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: have been tagging together and then the rest of them
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: fall apart. I'm not even sure you're gonna keep this
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: group together outside of Max leader. I could see him
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: all going their separate ways. To be honest about it.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: I think you're keeping together and this ends with Max
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: as the baby face.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: They could very well beat some time off before that happened.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: Let me throw something out. Let me throw something out here.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Uh what if Pac isn't the ring leader? What if
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: he is not the catalyst for the destruction of the
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: well the inner destruction of the of the death Rids.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: There's better. There is another person that has hands with
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Wheeler Yuda, Daniel Garcia, Claudio Castignoli, et cetera, et cetera.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: And that's Brian Danielson.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's that's kind of getting deep there.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I would not put it past Tony
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: con to have the ultimate swear being Brian Danielson as
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: as the ringleader.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: I can see it.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 8: I can see it so.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 5: Like n w O Danielson or no, not that bad.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 11: Because with a bunch of like legit heels well, but
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 11: you what what when you look at it, maybe maybe not.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just I'm just putting that out there.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, Willer, they were.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: The bad guys and boots like, there's.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: No but Wheeler da has had face tendencies. Claudio castic
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: Noli has had face tendencies, but I'm well not he
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: was never been a good guy in the Death Writers,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: but he wasn't.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 5: Bunny bad guys. They were just the bad guys.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: But listen, listen to me here, all right, none of
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: them were good guys and the death Riders, but they
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: all were good guys in the Blackpool Combat Club. And
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: who was one of the leaders of the black Poil
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: Combat Club, Brian Danielson.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: So maybe this hels like that's just.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: Club they were sorry.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: Apologized, no, but no, no, no, not at all. But
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: even looking at it this way, Danielson was also a
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: heel in the Blackpool Combat Club. Remember he was calling
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: all the wrestlers amateurs and stuff like that. So if
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: you're going to do a swerve, that's the swerve. I mean,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: I don't like the n w O Danielson thing because
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: n w O was starting started great point, so yeaheah,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: he's got to be a heel.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: Look, can I make one more like comment before we
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: move on. I have been watching this very closely because
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 6: I have been waiting with baited breath and great eagerness
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: for John Moxley to hit rock bottom, not because I
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 6: don't like him, He's my favorite. I desperately miss face
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: Mock and I sort of had this little vision in
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: my head of maybe once he hits that rock bottom
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 6: that is completely alone in the world, maybe one hangman
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: Page reaches out a hand to him, the way Will
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 6: Osprey reached out to him when he was at his lowest.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: It could be. I do believe that John Moxley is
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: at rock bottom right now. But look, let's move on
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: because this is the final match that we're going to
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: be talking about before we get to our Poe Prix.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: And this is an intriguing match because the Young Bucks
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: have a decision to make on AW Dynamite AW Collision
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: tomorrow night. But as of right now now they are
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: on the opposite sides of this match against Lucasaurus. Uh,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: jungle Jack Perry and Kenny Omega. But uh, do you
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: guys see the Young Bucks joining the Don Kallis family,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: Because I certainly do not.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 6: No way going back to Kenny.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: They're going back to.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 8: They've been learning about friendship, and I think they're gonna
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 8: go back.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 4: The trend is showing friends getting back together and stuff
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 5: You're right on, but how do you time? How do
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 5: you how do.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 4: You book this match to set that up so that
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 4: they get their baby Facer in the end.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I think they do join the don Kallas family
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: short term. I think they because I think they joined
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: because they're desperate for money. They're they're broke, and they
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: don't know how to handle that. They haven't been rope
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: for years now. I mean, they vote, so I think
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 3: they're going to be like, we need this money, we need,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: you know, some sense of power. Like they are lost
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: where they are, and Don Kallas is taking advantage of that.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: They're going to join. They're going to win the million
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: dollars and they're going to enjoy it briefly until don
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: Kallus goes too far with his attacks on Kenny and
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: he's yelling at him to give him the bte trigger
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: and they finally just look at Kenny. He looks up
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: at him, just broken and beaten, and they go to
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: do it, but they just can't because you know, all
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: this money and power hasn't brought him happiness. They were
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: at the happy, they were at the happy when they
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: were just having fun with Kenny and hangman, and you
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: know they're they're real friends. So I think I think
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: it's a short term deal where they joined the don
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: Kallas family and maybe it leads to another anarchy in
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: the arena, you know, down the road, and that's when
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: they they drop the hands, they drop him, flip John
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: Kallas off, super tick him, and that's how they turned
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 3: face again.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 13: And I one hundred I agree with you if that
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 13: was to happen, Okay, well, okay, no, I'm just saying
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 13: if that.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: If your scenario happened, it happens at buol Gear. It
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: doesn't go past that. It does not have to be
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: a short term thing. Don Kallas has the people come out,
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: they take out Lucasaurus and Jungle Boy. They got in
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: the middle of the ring and the Bucks turn on
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: them there and that's when it goes. I don't see
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: them wasting any time being part of it. You can't
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: have them add in the Bucks and Brisco at the
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: same time.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: That's too much story.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 8: Something something I've noticed with the young Bucks is Nicholas
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 8: is the one that's acting like a money hungry maniac,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 8: and Matt always has that look of hesitation and sometimes
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 8: actually anger. That Nick is going around spending all of
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 8: their money and just you know, doing the things that
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 8: he does.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: And we all.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 8: Tend to think that the Young Bucks are because they're brothers,
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 8: that they always are going to function together, and I
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 8: think there's quite the possibility that they may not. They
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 8: may have some kind of argument together where it looks
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 8: like they're really really mad at each other. And this
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 8: is where Kenny kind of steps in and they have
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 8: that come together moment and just beat the heck out
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 8: at at least a few members of the Callous family,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 8: because Kenny has just been running around non stop trying
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 8: to get his hands on Don Callous, and I think
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 8: that that moment is really coming due. So I'm interested
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 8: to see it, and I don't I don't doubt that
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 8: Okata plays some kind of role in this as well.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 8: Don't underestimate him. But Kelson, you were gonna say something
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 8: before we all kind of interrupted you.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: No, no, not a problem. Here's the thing. I don't
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: believe this match happens at full gear, really not in
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: the way that it is set up currently. I think
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: that it's going to be Lucasaurus, Jack Perry, Kenny Obega
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: and the Young Bucks against the Don Kallis family, including
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: Gabe kidd. Uh. That's what I think is gonna happen.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 3: I've got to interrupt you. Game Kit is in World
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: Tag League. There is a World Tag League show on
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: the twenty second.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: So okay, okay, that that's fine. Well, it is possible
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: because look at Began Baine.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 5: She's at the.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: World Tag League in startup. She's had what at what point,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: she had like nine matches in eleven days.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: It is literally on second right, Yeah, but the time
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: difference won't allow it because yeah, I mean it's.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: A okay, okay, thank you. Uh but anyway, there's other
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: members that we don't have to go into a ten
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: minute explanation of a time uh. But my point is
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: is that there are plenty of other members of the
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: don call this family to pick a choose from U
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: takesh is not in this you know, at just Sarah,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: there's a bunch. I honestly believe that the match that is,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: this trios match is not going to happen. It's just
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: not going to happen.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 4: I think it happens. I think Time was kind of
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: spot on with how the end happens.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 5: I just think it happens after the match.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: I think Alexander and the Bucks win and Cal's family
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: comes out, there's a beatdown, and that exact spot Time
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: mentioned where they said you got to give Kenny the
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: BT trigger and they just can't do it.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: And that's the term.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 4: Well you set up a five y five on TV
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: or something, Kelson. But I think I think Time kind
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: of nailed. I think what's going to happen.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: I just oh my reasoning, My reasoning for it is
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: is that the young Bucks, as Time said, they need
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: the money, but what they're doing to get money isn't working.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: They've made money, but they've lost the money. Because they're lost,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: they need to find themselves. They need to go back
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: to the people that made them. And they're gonna end
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: up becoming EVPs again. They're gonna end up being the
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: vps and they're going to be not I don't want
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: to say baby faces, but they're gonna be you know,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: kind of tweeterers on that like they've they've always been.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: They've they've had their moments of face and healed. They've
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: they're just the Bucks, you know, the Bucks are the Bucks.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: They're kind of like the Black Book Combat Club when
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: we were talking about them on this podcast A House
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: of Black another good example. Uh, they get cheered, but
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: they're not baby faces, but they're not really heels. They
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: can they just serve their purpose. They serve their own purpose.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: The Bucks have always been that way. But they've also
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: been very loyal to their and their friends are on
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: the other side right now. The money is on the
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: don Kallis family, but their friends are on the other
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: side right now. And where did they make their money
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: by being loyal to their friends?
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 5: They did try to kill Kenny though.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: They did, you know. And but the thing about the
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: thing about wrestling is, oh, you drove a spike through
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: my forehead. That was a couple of years ago. That's
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: got a forg That's.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: A great idea. What's a little bit of a murder
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 3: between friends?
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 6: Look at Sammy Zain and Kevin Owens. They love each
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 6: other as much as two friends can. And how many
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: times have they tried to kill each other?
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Well, look at this rig of honor. I mean you
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: got people in there that are literally hitting each other
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: with boards and thumbtacks and all this kind of stuff,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: and then they shake their hands in hog after after
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: the match. I mean it's wrestling.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 8: I don't think that'll happen with Kenny and Callous though.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 8: I don't think don't over make up.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think they will either. If they do,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: it'll be a very very long, slow process.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: Point about them becoming vps again, I think they may
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 6: have learned their lesson like by ruling like a couple
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 6: of little tyrants. They made everybody hate them, which they
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 6: didn't care when they were in power, but bit them
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 6: in the ass later. I think when they do become EVPs,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: and maybe they'll rule with a kinder touch this time,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 6: there's still going to be They're.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: Not going to have a match they've advertised for a
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 4: few weeks.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 6: I said, I don't see the.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: Changing that well.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: But again, you know, Barry, it's not that they're not
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: going to do the match, it's just that teams are
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: going to change a little bit. I think there it's
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: going to be a five five three on three.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: It is, but I'm sorry, Kenny, the Bucks and Dresser
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: or Express versus the Don Kalis All Stars is not
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: as important a match as Kenny and Jurassic Express versus
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: the Bucks and Josh Alexander.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: But how important is this it's that attraction.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 5: By addition, well, it depends on the storyline.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, if it's part of the bucks face turn
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 4: and the Elite getting back together to go up to
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: the Trios titles, I'd say it's a pretty important match.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: If that's not the direction they're going, then it's not
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: and they can, you know, do whatever clown show do.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 8: And Kenny is gonna he is pretty mad at the
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 8: Walking Weapon Josh Alexander because Josh Alexander beat up what's
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 8: his name backstage? Michael, Well, how do you say nakno?
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 8: Because out thank you? So I think there's a little
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 8: bit of tension there. And did you all know that
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 8: I can't say the Walking Weapon Josh Alexander's name unless
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 8: I say the whole thing, otherwise I can't remember his name.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 8: So that's why I keep saying the Walking Weapon Alexander.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: The reason for being mad that Alexander has to do
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: with Josh Alexander entering Kenny's lover. I mean Alexander the
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: one who took him out.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he mentioned that.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: Kinny and versus it's still kill me.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 8: The power of a Boosie is strong.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: I think he's still got at least a month or
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: two to recover.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 8: He was still was standing up the weekendster surgery. He
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 8: might come riding his bike in there.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, look, let's move on. I want to I
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: do want to do a postpai section. I want to
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: lead it off. Look, we've had uh some bad news
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: coming from Riba. She has lung cancer and I don't
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: even want to attempt to disrespect her by but she's
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: got a long list of physical ailments. I just want
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: to say, you know, I posted the story about it
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: on different subreddits, some of them WWE specific, and of
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: course the w fanhub subreddit and everybody. I think if
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: there's anything that can bring people together more than you
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: know that just bypass tribalism, it's something like this. So
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: much support coming from the from the fans for Riba,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: and it's genuine. It wasn't. People were literally talking about
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: how much they liked her in Displace, how much they
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: liked their displace, or their favorite moments with her, and
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: things like that. We're talking again, out of a diverse
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: group of wrestling fans. Riba, good luck. I'm thinking about you. Fight.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: Just fight, That's all I wanted to say. Anybody else
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: with the potpourri.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 5: I had a quick one.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: Going.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 4: So one of the benefits of living in Orlando, Florida
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: is I get to see a lot of professional wrestlers
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: on a pretty regular basis, both locally and in the
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 4: Greater Metro area. This weekend, I was at Epcot and
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 4: a young woman turned around and I always had a
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 4: Kenny Omega T shirt on. She's like, oh like your shirt.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, thanks, you know, are you a Kenny fan?
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 4: And the guy she was with said, tell her who
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: your dad is and she said, well, I'm Sanjay Dot's daughter,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 4: and I said, oh, that's nice.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 5: So we chatted a little bit.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 4: She was there with a friend of hers and I
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: think her friend's older brother or something.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 5: Really really really nice, sharp young woman.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: So Sandre, if you're out there, just want to let
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: you know you have a very nice daughter, very smart.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: Heard her friends, you knew having a good time, and
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: she was She's very busy to chat with for a
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 4: minute or so on mind.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: Very cool. That was a nice little story beat that Jess.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: I can't good job raising a kid. Yeah.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 6: All I was going to say is I was not
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 6: feeling well last week, so unfortunately I was not at
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 6: the podcast, so I didn't get to talk about it then,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 6: and it hadn't even happened yet then, so I'll talk
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: about it now. Blood and Guts was so much fun.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 6: I this is not to disparage all the other episodes,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 6: but I think it's the most fun I've had watching
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 6: Dynamite in a while.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: That was look, three matches over two and a half
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: hours with almost because I think it came out to
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: one hour and fifty seven minutes of actual wrestling. Amazing,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: And I was so happy that the women stole the show.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah. I mean, like I some people were worried
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 6: about like oversaturation, you know, both of violence and maybe
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 6: of the ring mats getting coded in redbisc was fluid,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 6: but I think like the women's match was the more
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 6: pardon the expression, balls out violent of the two, and
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 6: the men's match was more like you would trust me.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 6: It was a absolute slaughterfest too, but it was more
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 6: for storytelling purposes. Like you got like Max getting pinned,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 6: you got Danny giving him that death glare afterwards. But
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 6: oh my god, the ending of the women's match, just
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 6: like I think if somebody was beating up my wife
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 6: in front of me. I would tap out too.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they both had fantastic finishes. Yeah, and they were
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 4: completely different. Reasons that the ending of the women's match
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 4: had so much emotion because that whole thing was just
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 4: the baby Faces and the Heels hating each other. There
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: wasn't really a whole lot more story other than they've
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: just been as a group fighting with each other and
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 4: this was the big blowoff. So with Amanada being out
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 4: and Mina sub again, they had a really really great
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: opportunity for this ending and the emotional feel like knowing
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: how they are seeing Mina choked and beaten weather restraining
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 4: Tony and making her.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 5: Watch like my god, that was just so good.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 4: And then the men's was another chapter in the storyline
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: they've been telling where Kyle always has Max's number and
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 4: Mock somehow cheats out of it. The Babyfaces to finish
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 4: that have all of the Heels taken care of. Moxes
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 4: by himself, he can't get away from Kyle this time,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 4: and then Kyle makes them tap like that was the
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: end of a story they built over several matches, and
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 4: it was just I couldn't be more pleased with how
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: well creatively they came up with the end of both
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 4: of those matches. It was just really, really really well.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: You know what, though, I think that it gets lost
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: on this is the hang Man Addam Page match against
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: Powerhouse Hause because while the Blood and Guts matches were bloody,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: the only way I could describe the hang Man Addam
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: Page and Powerhouse Hobbs match was thuddy. It was and
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: blood and guts. It was blood and thud. I mean,
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: there were just crashes.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: That was it.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: It was a perfect It was perfectly set up sandwich
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: between two bloody matches to have a brutal match. And look,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: I have heard some people time. I have heard some
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: people saying things like all AW does is bloody matches. Well, no,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: that's not all that AW does. And plus you have
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: to look at the name of the show. It's blood
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: and guts. What did you expect ballet?
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if you went into that show and
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 3: your response coming out of it there was too much
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: blood and violence, Well you know what I think you
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: should do?
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: I say it, brother, go ahead, it's yours God. Hell,
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 2: that's where I was going. Thank you for bringing it home.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: It's serious, man. Some people. Look I said this last
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: week It just amazes me how people will talk about
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: stuff that they obviously don't watch.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 5: There's so much nudity in this porno that I put on.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 5: It's like, well, what do you think? Yeah, I'm shot.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 4: There's so much blood on this TV show called Blood
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: and Nuts.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 5: Like, what are you going here?
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: Guys?
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 3: You watched an a bit called blood and juts and
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: complain about blood and violence?
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like said, most of the people probably didn't
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 3: even watch. I saw some clips one tube on Twitter.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: It was like, I don't know, I don't like this, Yeah, exactly.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 5: It.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 4: It's like being mad about the Royal Wrong Wull because
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: entrance keep being entered into it.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 5: It's like, that's rats, Like what are you doing?
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 6: You know what I am kind of curious about it
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 6: was there was a spot that was supposed to happen
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 6: at the beginning of the women's match. You could see
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 6: like the Sisters of sin and fishing around in the
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 6: turn buckles for something that was obviously supposed to to
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 6: be there, but wasn't. I guess whatever they hid must
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 6: have gotten like lost in the shuffle of setting up
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 6: the ring. That losing that spot did not diminish the
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 6: match at all, but I'm kind of curious of what
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  Speaker 6: it was supposed to be, like a fork or what.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you want to go ahead.
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  Speaker 8: Oh, I was just gonna say. One of my favorite parts,
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  Speaker 8: well two of them actually and the Men's Blood and
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 8: Guts was when they stapled Orange Cassidy's hands inside his jeans.
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  Speaker 5: I loved that.
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  Speaker 3: That was that was the thing.
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  Speaker 2: It was, Oh you can't you kind of have that
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: kind of match with on a stapler? I'm sorry?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, the a staple of a W and I
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 8: also like, what you're so silly? What we took away
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 8: from the women's match is that Tony Storm is on
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 8: a terror to get everyone, and she let it be
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 8: known that everybody's in trouble, and I don't.
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  Speaker 2: What did you say? Don't ask God for mercy because
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: God's a.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: The Women's Blood and Guts match was one of those things.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: I loved it because it was so brilliant, but I
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: also hated it because for Mina I was.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 14: I think the initial finish was having Chris in the
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 14: position Tony was in and stat getting beat or vice
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 14: versa before the Almanada injury and the.
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  Speaker 4: Penalop before it injury. Like I think that was still
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: the finish they were always going to do.
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  Speaker 3: But what if it was to be Willow getting beaten
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  Speaker 3: up and they held stacked there.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: And she had I'm sorry, I may have misspoke, That's
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: what I was thinking, Yes, will like.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: Because that would have been such a deal, but.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 5: He's did at the beginning where they had the moment.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 5: But like, the reality is.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: They've been so split that that wouldn't have hit as
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 4: hard as Mina and Tony because that's current, Like we
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: see them together, we know that it's not this on again,
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: off again friendship that's kind of been a bline storyline,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 4: Like Mina and Tony is a thing. So this opportunity
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 4: I think for wife, Yeah, it made this moment. I
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 4: don't think this moment would have had as much impact
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 4: with any other two women on the roster, which is
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 4: why it was so powerful.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: You know what, It would have worked well if it
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: was Willow and stat but it just worked so much
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 3: better with Mina.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 2: And there was a word that you used, Barry that
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: I think says a lot about blood of guts, and
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 2: that word is impact at when blood and guts traditionally
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 2: has been earlier in the year, but this year. They
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 2: did it in November, very close to WWE's War Games.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if you guys saw the interview
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: that Dolph Ziggler did with I can't remember who he
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: was talking to, but anyway, there is a video of dolftograph.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah chrismathleet, Yeah, I think you're right. But anyway, he
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: was doing a whole thing about Blood and Guts and
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 2: it was clear and obvious he loved every second of it.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, he gushed about this match, about the matches,
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: he gushed about the entire event. He really really had
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: a lot of good things to say about it. And
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: he went on to say talking about war games, and
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: he said, when it comes to war games, you're not
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: going to see anything like that. I mean, what AEW
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: did what with Blood and Guts being so close to wargames?
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 2: Was here the balls in your court. Now it's up
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: to uh WWE to say, hey, here hold my beer.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: And I don't think they can do it because that's
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: just not who they are. The war games and ww
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: are not going to come off, you know, like like
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: Blood and Guts did. And the ratings were up for
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 2: Blood and Guts. Everything was everything was good, and WWE's
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: gotta I wouldn't be surprised if back, you know, in
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: the back rooms WWE and with TKO, that they're saying, hey,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: you know, maybe we need to show some color in
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: this match.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a real subtle way to counterprogram. I didn't
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 4: even think of that, because, like, Tony's not going to
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 4: go ahead to head and challenge them in that regard,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: but to do this the whole off this match, to
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: do it a couple of weeks, it's a real subtle
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 4: way to counterprogram MND and consider that Calson, it's a
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 4: good point.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, anyway, we are at the end of the show.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: We've been going for almost an hour and forty five minutes.
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 2: This was a long show, but it was a fun show.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: Thank you guys for coming and sharing tonight with us.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: We will be doing a live chat tomorrow night on
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: the AAW fan Hub subreddit for AW Dynamite AW Collision
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: three hours. Don't forget that. There's also the what is
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: it the countdown show afterwards, So there's literally four hours
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: of AW programming starting at eight o'clock PM Eastern time
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: tomorrow night. So strap yourselves in. I personally am really
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: looking forward to AW Dynamite AW Collision because I think
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: even though it's a go home show, I think that
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: this has so much going for it. I mean, look
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: at the matches. Got the two women's semi finals or yeah,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: you know you've got the number one and number two
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: uh not contender, but participate in mats for participation, match
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: for the casino uh Casino Gauntlet. You got so much
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: more things. And plus you never know what's gonna happen
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: with the Young Bucks. They got to make their decision
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: tomorrow night. You never know what's gonna happen with John Moxley,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: Kyle Fletcher or John Moxley and the Death Riders at all.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: I think Tomorrow Night's gonna be a really interesting story
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: of the live chat's gonna really be hopping. I think
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot to talk about. Kenny Omega
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 2: is gonna be back. Uh, you just never know, Chris
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: Jericho may be back.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 5: Rumors they got me and Jean for the show.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that's disgusting. Oh wait though mildly angry,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: gene so but anyway, yeah, yeah, there you go. Well, guys,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: thanks for coming and talking with us tonight. I hope
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: everybody enjoyed listening to the show. We're here every wed
• 1:42:13
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• 1:42:17
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• 1:42:19
  Speaker 2: was a blood and blood and guts got that on
• 1:42:22
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• 1:42:29
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• 1:42:32
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• 1:42:38
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• 1:42:42
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• 1:43:17
  Speaker 6: Good night. Eddie Kingston.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: I love Eddie Kingston.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 8: Everyone loves Eddie Kingston.