Latest / Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast / Daniella Bruce Joins Tiger Territory
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- 0:04Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tigers Territory, part of
- 0:07Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network, a Detroit Tigers podcast. I'm Keeren
- 0:10Speaker 1: Steckley with me as always as Cody staven Hagen and
- 0:12Speaker 1: joining us for the first time. Your broadcast reporter for
- 0:15Speaker 1: the Tigers and Red Wings, Dan Yellow, Bruce, Dan Yellow,
- 0:18Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
- 0:22Speaker 3: I'm going to start off by saying that if you
- 0:23Speaker 3: guys hear any scratching at a door, I have to
- 0:26Speaker 3: lock my dog out of the room when I do
- 0:27Speaker 3: these because she will jump up on me and want
- 0:30Speaker 3: to be a part of it. So I hope you
- 0:32Speaker 3: don't think I'm abusing her or anything, but it is.
- 0:34Speaker 3: It is her just scratching at the door. If you
- 0:36Speaker 3: hear a weird background noise.
- 0:39Speaker 4: We all understand right in Hard Docs have occasionally made
- 0:43Speaker 4: appearances on the show.
- 0:44Speaker 2: I like it.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Well, Like I said, it's great to have you on, Danielle,
- 0:49Speaker 1: and you know, a very busy time for you. It's
- 0:53Speaker 1: a busy time for Cody, it's busy time for me,
- 0:54Speaker 1: but you especially, so I just got a you know,
- 0:57Speaker 1: from the jump here just kind of I was gonna
- 0:59Speaker 1: joke they say, like, how is your off season? No,
- 1:02Speaker 1: you know for the Tigers, knowing that there is no
- 1:05Speaker 1: off season for you, So what have you been up
- 1:08Speaker 1: to since the last time we saw you do some
- 1:10Speaker 1: Tigers games?
- 1:12Speaker 3: Well, definitely covering some run wings hockey, and they've seemed
- 1:15Speaker 3: to turn things around since about Christmas, so they're fighting
- 1:17Speaker 3: for a playoff spot right now, which has been fun.
- 1:19Speaker 2: I did get a little bit of a break.
- 1:21Speaker 3: The Four Nations Tournament was a two week break this year,
- 1:23Speaker 3: and then I also got married, so I took some
- 1:25Speaker 3: time off for that. In the month of February was
- 1:27Speaker 3: kind of my time off, and then it was right
- 1:29Speaker 3: to spring training and kind of bouncing back between bolts.
- 1:32Speaker 3: So I'm home right now in Detroit for Wings and
- 1:34Speaker 3: then I'll go back to Lakeland for some Tigers next
- 1:37Speaker 3: week and then I kind of I go basically Tigers
- 1:41Speaker 3: from there. So it's going to be a very, very
- 1:43Speaker 3: busy year this year, but I'm excited.
- 1:46Speaker 4: Well, for anyone who missed it, Daniella was recently named
- 1:49Speaker 4: the sideline reporter for the Tigers broadcast this year, So congratulations,
- 1:55Speaker 4: well deserved. You've come a long way from the word
- 1:59Speaker 4: on Woodwork Days right.
- 2:01Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, the word on Woodward Rush Beat. Cody
- 2:04Speaker 3: was one of our returning guests that came on to
- 2:07Speaker 3: talk Tigers that show.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Actually, though it did so much, and those that don't
- 2:11Speaker 2: know what.
- 2:11Speaker 3: It was, it was during COVID, during the pandemic, when
- 2:14Speaker 3: everything was shut down and nothing was really happening, and
- 2:17Speaker 3: we were trying to find a wait it and keep
- 2:21Speaker 3: some sort of content coming from the Red Wings and Tigers,
- 2:25Speaker 3: and it became this like two hour live streaming show
- 2:28Speaker 3: where we had guests on talking about both Red Wings
- 2:31Speaker 3: and Tigers. And it was my first taste of doing both.
- 2:33Speaker 3: So even though it feels crazy that we did all
- 2:36Speaker 3: of that now, I think it's what actually got me
- 2:38Speaker 3: into doing both sports and what made me interested in
- 2:41Speaker 3: wanting to pursue baseball a little bit more.
- 2:43Speaker 1: So.
- 2:44Speaker 3: It served its purpose, It got us through it. It
- 2:46Speaker 3: was fun while it lasted. But man, yeah, I have
- 2:48Speaker 3: come a long way since then, and thank goodness, we're
- 2:51Speaker 3: back to like regular broadcasts.
- 2:55Speaker 4: For sure. And I asked because I was kind of
- 2:57Speaker 4: curious just to better understand your career path. I know
- 3:00Speaker 4: you went to Michigan State, but is this kind of
- 3:03Speaker 4: what you always envisioned yourself doing or how did things
- 3:06Speaker 4: unfold for you?
- 3:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I've always wanted to be a reporter, a sports
- 3:10Speaker 3: reporter of some sort. I didn't have an exact path
- 3:14Speaker 3: that I wanted to pursue when I went into college
- 3:16Speaker 3: at Michigan State, But as I started to get into it,
- 3:19Speaker 3: I knew I liked TV. I like the sideline role.
- 3:23Speaker 3: I like hosting a little bit too. If that is
- 3:25Speaker 3: going to be a part of the new position with
- 3:27Speaker 3: the Tigers, so I'll get to do that a little
- 3:29Speaker 3: So I knew that was kind of the path.
- 3:30Speaker 2: I wanted to take.
- 3:31Speaker 3: I didn't know that hockey would be the first sport
- 3:34Speaker 3: that I would break into. I was really open to anything.
- 3:37Speaker 3: I had covered a lot of football and basketball at
- 3:39Speaker 3: Michigan State and some hockey. They I had a lot
- 3:44Speaker 3: of basketball and football, so those were the sports I
- 3:46Speaker 3: thought I might break into. But when I graduated it
- 3:50Speaker 3: ended up being just a year after that that little
- 3:52Speaker 3: Caesars Arena opened, So there were a lot of new
- 3:55Speaker 3: positions that the Red Wings were hiring for at that time,
- 3:58Speaker 3: and one of them was just their arena host reporter position,
- 4:02Speaker 3: which I actually didn't get, and they were like, we
- 4:04Speaker 3: like you, we want to keep you on.
- 4:06Speaker 2: We don't really know in what capacity, but we're going
- 4:08Speaker 2: to do something.
- 4:09Speaker 3: I like, all right, well, I'm fresh out of college,
- 4:11Speaker 3: so I'm going to say yes to that, right especially
- 4:13Speaker 3: with the hometown team. And I became a game night
- 4:16Speaker 3: staff member, hosting a pregame and intermission show that ran
- 4:19Speaker 3: strictly inside Little Caesars Arena for Red Wings games, and
- 4:22Speaker 3: from there my position started to blossom. A year later,
- 4:24Speaker 3: I was hired full time as like a reporter producer
- 4:27Speaker 3: type role, and then I started doing radio with Ken
- 4:30Speaker 3: Cal and I actually got to fill in as the
- 4:33Speaker 3: color analyst back in twenty twenty two when our color
- 4:36Speaker 3: analyst Paul Woods was outsick, I filled in for him,
- 4:39Speaker 3: which was the start of my radio career. So I
- 4:41Speaker 3: did that, did some stuff for Red Wings, and then
- 4:43Speaker 3: they wanted to add the position on the Tigers side,
- 4:45Speaker 3: which basically is a sideline reporter role that I've done
- 4:49Speaker 3: for the past two years with Dan Dickerson on the
- 4:51Speaker 3: radio and then Ken Cal on the Red Wings side.
- 4:53Speaker 3: So it's really just grown from what started as a
- 4:57Speaker 3: game night staff position, which is a really cool story.
- 4:59Speaker 3: And I'm from here I grew up in New Baltimore,
- 5:02Speaker 3: So being from Detroit and getting to be the homegrown
- 5:05Speaker 3: kid that gets to live out her dream here is
- 5:07Speaker 3: really a cool story. And I feel like sometimes I
- 5:09Speaker 3: do take that for granted because it doesn't happen all
- 5:11Speaker 3: that often.
- 5:13Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, one of my life philosophies is
- 5:17Speaker 1: you got to be open to possibilities. And it seems
- 5:20Speaker 1: like what you just described there is someone who was
- 5:23Speaker 1: open to possibilities. You didn't know you're gonna do this,
- 5:25Speaker 1: you end up doing that, And I think that's a
- 5:27Speaker 1: great mindset to have. I am curious, you know, speaking
- 5:31Speaker 1: of mindsets, so you mentioned, you know, TV, in game stuff, radio,
- 5:35Speaker 1: you know that that all kind of has its own
- 5:38Speaker 1: flavor to kind of you know, to the medium, Right,
- 5:41Speaker 1: So I'm curious, like, what what do you like most
- 5:44Speaker 1: or which one do you prefer, or what's kind of
- 5:46Speaker 1: the you know, the you know, the the give and
- 5:49Speaker 1: take with having to do TV and radio and even
- 5:52Speaker 1: just like the in game stuff, Like what kind of
- 5:54Speaker 1: goes into all of that for you?
- 5:56Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if you asked me which one I
- 5:57Speaker 3: liked more, I think I've always wanted to do TV
- 6:00Speaker 3: for obvious reasons right, That is kind of the gold
- 6:03Speaker 3: standard in most cases.
- 6:06Speaker 2: But radio is very underappreciated sometimes.
- 6:08Speaker 3: And I've learned that being involved in it, and these
- 6:11Speaker 3: radio play by play announcers are incredible. We're blessed with
- 6:14Speaker 3: two of the best, and Dan Dickerson and Ken Kelly
- 6:17Speaker 3: have Dan Miller two who's incredible. But just the way
- 6:20Speaker 3: that they're able to describe a game. You have to
- 6:22Speaker 3: remember they viewers can't see anything. If they're listening to
- 6:26Speaker 3: the game, they're likely not watching it. Some people do
- 6:28Speaker 3: watch it with the radio calls on it. But the
- 6:31Speaker 3: way that they're able to describe it and the way
- 6:33Speaker 3: that they're they're so relaxed about it.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Radio is a little.
- 6:36Speaker 3: Bit more free flowing than TV is, and that could
- 6:39Speaker 3: be because of certain sponsorship elements. That could be just
- 6:42Speaker 3: because of things that go into a TV broadcast that
- 6:45Speaker 3: you worry about in a radio broadcast. But it's a
- 6:50Speaker 3: little more relaxed. It's very free flowing, and I learned
- 6:52Speaker 3: a lot being involved in radio and just listening to
- 6:56Speaker 3: the two of them and being around the teams each
- 6:58Speaker 3: and every day, and I feel like it was a
- 7:01Speaker 3: great experience for me and it's going to make me
- 7:03Speaker 3: so much better on TV having done radio for two years,
- 7:08Speaker 3: so a couple.
- 7:09Speaker 4: Of years ago you start breaking into the Tiger space
- 7:11Speaker 4: the baseball space. Was that an adjustment at all, because
- 7:15Speaker 4: sometimes baseball is not the easiest thing to just dive
- 7:17Speaker 4: head first right in.
- 7:19Speaker 2: So I was nervous.
- 7:20Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie, And I think it's just because
- 7:22Speaker 3: you're going into a new clubhouse, locker room with new
- 7:25Speaker 3: players that you don't have relationships with yet.
- 7:28Speaker 2: You're meeting a.
- 7:29Speaker 3: Whole new group of reporters, the people that cover this
- 7:31Speaker 3: team every day. And I think my experience with the
- 7:36Speaker 3: Wings I built some confidence and just the fact that hey,
- 7:39Speaker 3: I can do this, I belong here. Just go in,
- 7:41Speaker 3: be yourself and have fun with it and it's going
- 7:43Speaker 3: to work out. And that's exactly what I did. I
- 7:45Speaker 3: feel like the beat writers like me write Cody. You
- 7:47Speaker 3: can say that of Christma.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Coas is my favorite. I have to give him a
- 7:51Speaker 2: shout out.
- 7:52Speaker 3: He's not an easy got to warm up to, and
- 7:53Speaker 3: I think I warmed up to him the quickest of
- 7:55Speaker 3: anybody ever.
- 7:57Speaker 2: So I'll take that.
- 7:58Speaker 3: No love Christmas, cos he love all the people that
- 8:01Speaker 3: work around the organization. Part of it was obviously working
- 8:04Speaker 3: for the Red Wings. I knew a lot of people
- 8:05Speaker 3: on the public relations side the media relation side that
- 8:09Speaker 3: kind of had done both, so it felt comfortable going
- 8:12Speaker 3: over there. We also have a great group on the
- 8:14Speaker 3: Tigers side. AJ Hinch is super welcoming and great and
- 8:17Speaker 3: answers any question that you have. So he's awesome. But
- 8:20Speaker 3: baseball can be an intimidating sport. But I think having
- 8:24Speaker 3: had some experience in a professional sports setting made me
- 8:27Speaker 3: feel a little bit more comfortable walking in there. But yeah, learning,
- 8:31Speaker 3: learning baseball is something that's kind of crazy to me too.
- 8:34Speaker 3: I'm still learning baseball. If I told you I knew everything,
- 8:36Speaker 3: i'd be lying to you. There is so much to know,
- 8:38Speaker 3: so many things that go into it. And I love
- 8:41Speaker 3: learning something new every day. And I think that's part
- 8:43Speaker 3: of the fun of baseball, is that I truly do
- 8:45Speaker 3: learn something different every day.
- 8:47Speaker 4: We're all still learning baseball.
- 8:51Speaker 1: Never never stopped learning. So you mentioned Dan Diggerson. I've
- 8:55Speaker 1: listened to him for years, and then when when Cody
- 8:58Speaker 1: started covering the Tigers, I was like, is Dan a
- 9:00Speaker 1: good guy?
- 9:01Speaker 2: You know?
- 9:01Speaker 1: I was kind of like hoping for a good answer there,
- 9:04Speaker 1: and ringing endorsement from Cody, just like seemingly everybody has
- 9:07Speaker 1: a ringing endorsement regarding Dan. So we have like the
- 9:11Speaker 1: professional colleague sense, the fans sense. So now someone who
- 9:14Speaker 1: has actually worked with Dan, you know what is what
- 9:18Speaker 1: makes Dan so special both seemingly as a person from
- 9:21Speaker 1: those who meet him and just anyone who listens to
- 9:23Speaker 1: him knows how great he is as job. But what
- 9:25Speaker 1: makes Dan great, Well.
- 9:26Speaker 3: He's the nicest person ever. And I'm not just saying that,
- 9:28Speaker 3: like he truly is just a great human being. And
- 9:32Speaker 3: he if you don't know this, his wife, La Dickerson
- 9:35Speaker 3: Laurian is a professor at Michigan State and I actually
- 9:39Speaker 3: had her when I was there. A lot of students
- 9:41Speaker 3: come in and will shadow all shadow both of us.
- 9:44Speaker 2: She'll set it up.
- 9:45Speaker 3: They've been our production assistants, broadcast assistance.
- 9:48Speaker 2: They've filled that role nicely.
- 9:50Speaker 3: So Dan's always looking to help out anybody that he
- 9:53Speaker 3: can that wants to break into this industry because he
- 9:55Speaker 3: knows how hard it is. Fun quick story about Dan.
- 9:58Speaker 3: I was in LA's class back when I was I
- 10:00Speaker 3: think I was a sophomore at Michigan State and I
- 10:02Speaker 3: was having one of those moments in time where I'm like,
- 10:05Speaker 3: am I doing the right thing? Everybody's telling me there's
- 10:07Speaker 3: no money in this field, Like, am I doing the
- 10:10Speaker 3: right thing?
- 10:10Speaker 2: Should I be pursuing this career? And I was in
- 10:13Speaker 2: her class.
- 10:13Speaker 3: Dan Dickerson was a guest speaker after I went up
- 10:16Speaker 3: and introduced myself and he said, you have a phenomenal
- 10:19Speaker 3: voice for broadcasting.
- 10:21Speaker 2: You better. You got to stick with this. You have
- 10:22Speaker 2: to keep with it.
- 10:23Speaker 3: And I was like, Okay, Dan Dickerson thinks I can
- 10:25Speaker 3: do it, I'm gonna do it. And turns out probably
- 10:30Speaker 3: ten years like no, not a full time Probably six
- 10:32Speaker 3: seven years later, I was working with Dan in the
- 10:34Speaker 3: radio booth.
- 10:35Speaker 2: So it was a very cool full circle moment to
- 10:38Speaker 2: be able to do that with him.
- 10:39Speaker 3: But he's always looking to help other people. Phenomenal broadcaster,
- 10:43Speaker 3: understands the game really really well. He will tell me
- 10:47Speaker 3: anything I need to know, and his preparation that's what
- 10:50Speaker 3: makes him so good, Like the way that he the
- 10:52Speaker 3: work he puts in. He tells me all the time
- 10:54Speaker 3: because I don't really have an off season either. I've
- 10:56Speaker 3: spent some time with my family of course, but he
- 10:59Speaker 3: gets right to it. He's prepping for the next season,
- 11:02Speaker 3: and it's pretty incredible the work that he puts in
- 11:04Speaker 3: behind the scenes to be as good.
- 11:05Speaker 2: As he is.
- 11:07Speaker 4: Dan, we need to have Dan loan sometime. But I
- 11:09Speaker 4: called Dan once this offseason. I was like, Hey, how's
- 11:12Speaker 4: it going. What are you doing. He goes, Oh, I'm
- 11:13Speaker 4: just transcribing every interview I had with AJ from the
- 11:17Speaker 4: entire all last season. And I was like, yeah, why,
- 11:21Speaker 4: that is insane. Why would you do that? And He's like, well,
- 11:24Speaker 4: you never know when you'll find a little nugget that
- 11:26Speaker 4: I can add to my notes and then use on
- 11:28Speaker 4: a broadcast. And I was like, oh, my gosh, that
- 11:30Speaker 4: is next level preparation.
- 11:32Speaker 3: Even the interviews I do with players, he'll have me
- 11:35Speaker 3: send to him sometimes so he can transcribe them. And
- 11:39Speaker 3: that I got and I'm like, sure, you can have it,
- 11:42Speaker 3: no problem.
- 11:43Speaker 4: And for those who don't work in media, transcribing interviews
- 11:46Speaker 4: is like the most tedious, lest, least fun thing, you know,
- 11:50Speaker 4: worst part of the job in a way. And this
- 11:52Speaker 4: guy is just in the middle of December, you know,
- 11:55Speaker 4: transcribing something you did with AJ in May. So that's amazing.
- 12:00Speaker 1: Yeah, he always he always makes you feel smarter as
- 12:02Speaker 1: you talk about, you know, always learning the game. Listening
- 12:05Speaker 1: to Dan definitely makes you a makes you a smarter
- 12:08Speaker 1: baseball person. Uh, well, we're not going to go back
- 12:12Speaker 1: and listen to interviews from the past, but we are
- 12:14Speaker 1: going to look forward a little bit. Uh a lot
- 12:18Speaker 1: of excitement. Obviously, Danielle, regarding the twenty twenty five Tigers,
- 12:22Speaker 1: you break the streak last season, you will two streaks,
- 12:25Speaker 1: just making the postseason then winning a postseason game. Obviously,
- 12:29Speaker 1: a couple of bounces ago their way. Maybe the end
- 12:31Speaker 1: of the season could have gone a little bit longer,
- 12:33Speaker 1: but that's baseball. As they say, what are your expectations
- 12:37Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty five version of the Detroit Tigers,
- 12:41Speaker 1: You know, a team that is still very young, you know,
- 12:43Speaker 1: not a whole lot of additions to the team, and
- 12:46Speaker 1: we don't necessarily have to talk about that part, but
- 12:48Speaker 1: the fact remains and didn't really add a whole lot,
- 12:50Speaker 1: but it's still a core group that got within a
- 12:53Speaker 1: handful of outs from going to the ALCS.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:55Speaker 3: I think they are all aj all the players stepping
- 12:59Speaker 3: into the season and with the mindset that they want
- 13:01Speaker 3: to win the division and that they can win the division.
- 13:03Speaker 3: That they're good enough, they have the talent, and I
- 13:05Speaker 3: feel like that's a realistic goal for them to set.
- 13:08Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to see how they start off, especially
- 13:10Speaker 3: with the news surrounding Matt Verling and Parker Meadows being
- 13:14Speaker 3: on sheriff. He'll start the season on time, But I
- 13:16Speaker 3: guess the bright side of that is this is happening early,
- 13:20Speaker 3: so hopefully they're back quick and it doesn't happen mid season.
- 13:23Speaker 3: But it'll be interesting to see how that pulls through
- 13:25Speaker 3: because there wasn't a move made. Matt Virling was going
- 13:27Speaker 3: to factor in heavily at that third base spot likely
- 13:30Speaker 3: or is going to when he's healthy. So how does
- 13:32Speaker 3: that play out to start the season, and where do
- 13:35Speaker 3: some of the younger guys fit into this, and how
- 13:36Speaker 3: does the rotation shape up with Alex Cobb being out right,
- 13:40Speaker 3: I think there are some still question marks about that.
- 13:42Speaker 3: We're seeing Kentamieta pitch really well, which is a good
- 13:45Speaker 3: sign for the spring, seeing Jackson Job pitch really well,
- 13:47Speaker 3: which is a good sign. Casey Miss pitch pretty well.
- 13:50Speaker 3: So I think that they've set this realistic expectation. They've
- 13:53Speaker 3: got a young core, a lot of talent on this team,
- 13:56Speaker 3: but it's going to take some guys taking steps forward
- 13:59Speaker 3: and hopefully avoiding some of these injuries that we talk
- 14:01Speaker 3: about throughout the season for this team to kind of
- 14:03Speaker 3: make that deep playoff run that they want to make
- 14:06Speaker 3: this year.
- 14:07Speaker 4: Daniella, you were down in Lakeland for several days and
- 14:10Speaker 4: people always ask me, you know, what's the vibe this spring?
- 14:13Speaker 4: And that's always kind of a hard question for me
- 14:15Speaker 4: to answer, And sometimes I wonder if I'm just filtering
- 14:18Speaker 4: things through my own lens. I always say, like, these
- 14:21Speaker 4: guys are almost more business like than you would expect.
- 14:24Speaker 4: I think maybe that's tied to the confidence the team
- 14:26Speaker 4: now has. But what's your answer that question? What was
- 14:29Speaker 4: the vibe?
- 14:30Speaker 3: Like?
- 14:30Speaker 4: What stood out to you?
- 14:32Speaker 2: Well?
- 14:32Speaker 3: I think this team is always They're a great group
- 14:35Speaker 3: to be around, honestly, the fact that a lot of
- 14:37Speaker 3: them came up together and that they are so young
- 14:40Speaker 3: and still frankly and experienced, like they have some now
- 14:43Speaker 3: that they, like you said, build some confidence on.
- 14:45Speaker 2: But they they're fun.
- 14:48Speaker 3: They still have fun, I think, and I know that
- 14:51Speaker 3: sometimes when you win a lot, and sometimes when you're
- 14:53Speaker 3: chasing the playoffs all the time, like that can go away,
- 14:56Speaker 3: But these guys still have that vibe and I felt
- 14:58Speaker 3: that when I walked into the room for spring training too.
- 15:01Speaker 3: But there's also a lot of competition this year, and
- 15:03Speaker 3: guys know that there's guys that want to make this roster.
- 15:05Speaker 3: And that's the same said for every spring. But I
- 15:08Speaker 3: think this is a really good group where the vibes
- 15:10Speaker 3: are always good, Like it's it's not overly competitive where
- 15:14Speaker 3: it's uncomfortable, it's it's still a fun room to be in,
- 15:17Speaker 3: and they look forward to starting the season. So I
- 15:20Speaker 3: think they're all happy to be back to which is crazy.
- 15:22Speaker 3: I'm like, don't you guys want your off season to
- 15:24Speaker 3: be a little bit longer. They're like no, after a
- 15:26Speaker 3: week or so, we were ready to be back and
- 15:28Speaker 3: like crazy, crazy.
- 15:30Speaker 2: Yeah, good vibes.
- 15:33Speaker 1: So when I watch any of my favorite teams, I
- 15:37Speaker 1: always like, you know, I'm always trying to sell because
- 15:40Speaker 1: I live in Texas. I live in Dallas, so like
- 15:42Speaker 1: I got to get people around me interested in my
- 15:44Speaker 1: teams if we're gonna be watching. So I'm like, you
- 15:46Speaker 1: know this guy went through this, or you know this
- 15:48Speaker 1: thing's going on with his family, and you know, like
- 15:51Speaker 1: the human element essentially to these guys. So I'm curious,
- 15:55Speaker 1: Danielle from your perspective because you're around them so often,
- 15:58Speaker 1: like who what players or coaches whatever, you know, have
- 16:03Speaker 1: some of the best stories about their life, you know
- 16:05Speaker 1: what I mean? Like who who do you find just
- 16:07Speaker 1: like really compelling and and just like you know, you
- 16:12Speaker 1: like have like high human interests like this for this season.
- 16:16Speaker 2: They really are good people. I know.
- 16:18Speaker 3: I work for the team, and everybody's probably like she
- 16:19Speaker 3: has to say that, but they all are pretty good people, right,
- 16:22Speaker 3: And I feel like I can take the very obvious
- 16:25Speaker 3: answer with Trek Skoubel and the fact that where he
- 16:27Speaker 3: came from and how he got his or how his
- 16:30Speaker 3: career unfolded right from the University of Seattle not having
- 16:33Speaker 3: any scholarships, just all the things that he went through
- 16:36Speaker 3: to become a cy young pitcher. Like, he has great
- 16:39Speaker 3: stories there. His family is wonderful, his wife is great,
- 16:42Speaker 3: and his son is so cute. And you see him
- 16:44Speaker 3: running around spring training now, so you get that human
- 16:47Speaker 3: element of it too. I think Parker Meadows has been
- 16:51Speaker 3: through a lot too in his career to get to
- 16:53Speaker 3: where he's at. Last year, he went through some of
- 16:54Speaker 3: the struggles of having to go back down to Triple
- 16:56Speaker 3: A and kind of coming back and being on its hair.
- 16:59Speaker 2: So he's great. Jake Rogers has great stories.
- 17:02Speaker 3: He's a Texas boy himself, so he always tells us
- 17:05Speaker 3: some fun stories.
- 17:06Speaker 2: But I think they all at the Bullpen. Wait, I
- 17:09Speaker 2: could just say the Bullpen as a whole.
- 17:10Speaker 3: I got it. They're so fun to be around too.
- 17:13Speaker 3: They've got all these crazy things that they do. And
- 17:16Speaker 3: will Vest is great, another guy who's got a phenomenal
- 17:19Speaker 3: family that he's building. His wife is great. Two kids
- 17:22Speaker 3: are so cute. But you get to see some of
- 17:23Speaker 3: that when you're around it every day. And they really
- 17:25Speaker 3: do have a great group of guys, both on the
- 17:27Speaker 3: baseball field and off too.
- 17:29Speaker 2: They're all good people.
- 17:32Speaker 4: Yeah, there were a couple of moments this spring I
- 17:34Speaker 4: like amongst the writers who were kind of like, you
- 17:36Speaker 4: know what, we're pretty lucky to have a very good
- 17:38Speaker 4: clubhouse to work with.
- 17:40Speaker 3: We also got the Riley Green building his house story.
- 17:44Speaker 3: I think he was updating us along the entire way
- 17:47Speaker 3: last season. While he's playing a major league season, his
- 17:50Speaker 3: house back home is being remodeled and all this stuff,
- 17:54Speaker 3: and he's still he's twenty four now, I think so
- 17:56Speaker 3: he was like, this is the first time doing any
- 17:58Speaker 3: of that, So it's pretty funny to get.
- 18:00Speaker 2: That side of them, right. They're learning life and also
- 18:03Speaker 2: playing professional baseball.
- 18:05Speaker 4: So yeah, there's a lot of that.
- 18:09Speaker 1: Well, you know, I've I'm a big fan of the
- 18:12Speaker 1: belief that like these character traits that you're talking about, Danielle,
- 18:15Speaker 1: you know, they come from the top down. And aj
- 18:18Speaker 1: Hinch is a guy that is obviously respected around the league.
- 18:21Speaker 1: We've had him on the podcast, like he was great
- 18:25Speaker 1: in your opinion, Like what makes aj Hinch so successful?
- 18:29Speaker 1: And even just like you know from your dealings with
- 18:32Speaker 1: him and then just you know the stuff you see
- 18:34Speaker 1: like on the field.
- 18:36Speaker 3: I just think the way that he builds relationships with
- 18:38Speaker 3: everybody is something that not all managers or coaches that
- 18:42Speaker 3: I've been around have taken the time to do. And
- 18:46Speaker 3: when I say everybody, I mean everybody, whether it's media,
- 18:48Speaker 3: all of his players, and you get results. Players start
- 18:53Speaker 3: to trust you a lot, right, Like when they see
- 18:55Speaker 3: the way that aj puts a game together or lineup
- 18:57Speaker 3: together and they know that it works, they trust him.
- 19:00Speaker 3: So he has that ability to get the guys to
- 19:02Speaker 3: trust them get them to buy in and just be
- 19:05Speaker 3: super personable. We were just talking about personalities. Aja's great
- 19:08Speaker 3: and he's fun to be around, and he fits in
- 19:10Speaker 3: with the group really well. So the way that he
- 19:12Speaker 3: builds relationships is something that I've always appreciated about him,
- 19:16Speaker 3: and even with me, just the way he's accepted me
- 19:19Speaker 3: into the media world and he answers the questions I have,
- 19:21Speaker 3: even if they are not the best questions. I'm like, hey,
- 19:25Speaker 3: you know, like help me out here, I'm going to
- 19:26Speaker 3: need you to answer that, and he totally does and
- 19:28Speaker 3: he loves it and he loves.
- 19:29Speaker 2: Baseball like you have to to be a manager, I think.
- 19:32Speaker 2: But you can really see that radiating off him still
- 19:35Speaker 2: in his career.
- 19:38Speaker 4: I want to go back to something you said earlier
- 19:39Speaker 4: when you were talking about walking into the new clubhouse.
- 19:42Speaker 4: You know you wanted to just have some confidence be yourself.
- 19:46Speaker 4: Building relationships is a big part of all of our jobs,
- 19:48Speaker 4: and probably even more so when you are you know
- 19:51Speaker 4: you're going to be the team sideline reporter. It's important
- 19:53Speaker 4: that there's a level of comfortability with these guys. How
- 19:56Speaker 4: did you go about doing that? Did it come easily?
- 20:01Speaker 4: And was there any secret? Because you've been very good
- 20:03Speaker 4: at it, well.
- 20:04Speaker 2: Some of it. For me, it is a little well.
- 20:08Speaker 3: And I don't mean that as like, oh, my personality
- 20:11Speaker 3: is just great whatever. Everybody like, That's not what I'm saying.
- 20:14Speaker 3: I just have a more outgoing I'm not afraid to
- 20:17Speaker 3: approach people, never really have been. And I think that
- 20:20Speaker 3: confidence was a big part of it, because I learned
- 20:22Speaker 3: that with the Wings.
- 20:23Speaker 2: I went through it a little bit on that side.
- 20:25Speaker 3: I think as a younger reporter trying to learn how
- 20:28Speaker 3: to operate a room, learn what I can and can't
- 20:30Speaker 3: do in the room, or who I should be talking
- 20:32Speaker 3: to when that's part of the stuff I already knew.
- 20:34Speaker 3: So going into baseball, I think I was just more
- 20:38Speaker 3: confident going and talking.
- 20:39Speaker 2: To these players.
- 20:40Speaker 3: And my approach has always been get to know them
- 20:43Speaker 3: a little bit before you walk right up to them.
- 20:45Speaker 3: And it's like, well, this is what I need today,
- 20:47Speaker 3: let me just check the boxes of everything I need
- 20:49Speaker 3: for my stories. It's how are you, you know, would
- 20:52Speaker 3: you do with your off day? Or is the family
- 20:54Speaker 3: in town, or you know, just talking to them about
- 20:57Speaker 3: other life things. And this team is great about caring
- 21:01Speaker 3: a little bit about everybody else too, Like they'll ask
- 21:03Speaker 3: me or I walk into the clubhouse after or first
- 21:06Speaker 3: spring training this year and they're all telling me, congratulations,
- 21:09Speaker 3: we saw you got married, you know. They they're very
- 21:12Speaker 3: good about that too, and making a little bit of
- 21:14Speaker 3: a personal relationship before the work relationship, And I think
- 21:17Speaker 3: that's super important to have with them and to build
- 21:21Speaker 3: their trust, like make sure you they do trust you,
- 21:23Speaker 3: and that you don't do anything to kind to jeopardize
- 21:27Speaker 3: that trust, because that can make it really tough to
- 21:29Speaker 3: go back in there and rebuild the relationship.
- 21:33Speaker 1: Well, since you deal with both, I'm just kind of curious, like,
- 21:37Speaker 1: what's what's the main difference between baseball players and hockey players.
- 21:43Speaker 3: Hmm. This is a tough one because I get this
- 21:45Speaker 3: question a lot, and I truly love being around both sports,
- 21:49Speaker 3: and both teams right now are kind of in the
- 21:51Speaker 3: same on the same track, right Like they're both trying
- 21:54Speaker 3: to get over the hump of being a playoff team
- 21:56Speaker 3: and being a consistent playoff team and making runs like that.
- 22:00Speaker 3: So I think they're they're in similar spots. Hockey players
- 22:03Speaker 3: tend to be a little bit more.
- 22:04Speaker 2: Serious in my experience, They're.
- 22:07Speaker 3: A little more serious all the time, a little bit
- 22:09Speaker 3: more buttoned up all the time than the baseball players
- 22:12Speaker 3: have been with me. And I think that kind of
- 22:13Speaker 3: does come from the every danus of baseball. We're around
- 22:17Speaker 3: them every day at some point, right, whether it's you know,
- 22:21Speaker 3: in the morning, after the game, whatever, We're around them
- 22:23Speaker 3: at some point.
- 22:24Speaker 2: So I think that that has something to do with it.
- 22:26Speaker 3: But I've noticed that that hockey players just tend to
- 22:29Speaker 3: be slightly more serious, at least on the record.
- 22:36Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's very interesting because yeah, the everyday
- 22:40Speaker 1: thing is. But also at the same time, its not
- 22:41Speaker 1: like hockey is a short season either, you know, those
- 22:43Speaker 1: those are those are long seasons as well, so you know,
- 22:47Speaker 1: and also I think being on skates would bring different
- 22:51Speaker 1: personality traits for different guys as well. Actually, who do
- 22:54Speaker 1: you think is the best ice skater on the Tigers.
- 22:56Speaker 1: That's a good question.
- 22:58Speaker 2: Probably Torque because he played hockey.
- 23:00Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, actually that was an easy one. That was
- 23:02Speaker 1: an easy one.
- 23:03Speaker 3: Jake Rodgers thinks he can be a goalie, so that's
- 23:05Speaker 3: that's a real I'm pretty sure he's just like, yeah,
- 23:08Speaker 3: I can catch, so I must be able to play
- 23:10Speaker 3: goalie too. No, you kind of don't, you know. What
- 23:13Speaker 3: pitches are coming. I'm not sure you know what kind
- 23:17Speaker 3: of shots coming at you.
- 23:19Speaker 1: Well about the other way. Any Red Wings players think
- 23:22Speaker 1: they can play baseball, No, you.
- 23:25Speaker 3: Know, I've never talked about baseball with them. I've talked
- 23:27Speaker 3: about football a lot with them. I feel like they'd
- 23:30Speaker 3: all h who would be the best baseball player Dylan Larkin's.
- 23:36Speaker 3: For some reason, I feel like Dylan Larkin could play baseball.
- 23:38Speaker 3: But that's just me speculating.
- 23:41Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm gonna I'm gonna report back on this.
- 23:44Speaker 3: I've asked the hockey question, but I've never asked the
- 23:47Speaker 3: hockey players a baseball question.
- 23:49Speaker 4: I bet there could be some pitchers in that room.
- 23:51Speaker 4: I don't know why, just like the physique, like I
- 23:54Speaker 4: feel like they could. They could throw hard with a
- 23:56Speaker 4: little bit of work.
- 23:56Speaker 3: I have asked Alex Lyon because of the Jake Rogers converse.
- 24:00Speaker 3: I said, Hey, do you think since you're a goalie
- 24:02Speaker 3: you could catch? And he said absolutely not.
- 24:06Speaker 2: So I don't know.
- 24:09Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure how Jake equates it in his head,
- 24:12Speaker 3: but yeah, I'd like to see it try.
- 24:15Speaker 2: I'd like to seem dry. I would.
- 24:18Speaker 4: Speaking of the personality, thing like Baseball's I mean, hockey,
- 24:23Speaker 4: I guess is too, But baseball is just such a
- 24:24Speaker 4: silly game sometimes, like it's so long, so many things
- 24:28Speaker 4: are out of your control, just stupid things happen throughout
- 24:31Speaker 4: the course of the season. I think these guys learned,
- 24:33Speaker 4: Like I mean, it's not like they're all loose all
- 24:37Speaker 4: the time. They're also under a lot of pressure, but
- 24:39Speaker 4: some of them learn to just like shrug at it
- 24:41Speaker 4: and laugh sometimes. I think, I think you can see that.
- 24:44Speaker 3: And I think it's it's so with baseball players in particular,
- 24:48Speaker 3: like they can go through really bad slumps and still
- 24:52Speaker 3: get themselves out of it and be okay and just
- 24:54Speaker 3: kind of look at you and tell you, yeah, I
- 24:55Speaker 3: mean it happens.
- 24:56Speaker 2: It's baseball.
- 24:57Speaker 3: Like you're not going to be great all the time,
- 24:59Speaker 3: and most sports don't. I don't really have that that
- 25:02Speaker 3: attitude about it. And I've noticed it heavily in baseball.
- 25:05Speaker 3: If you're a hockey player and you're on a nine
- 25:09Speaker 3: game scoreless streak, like you're not feeling very good about it.
- 25:13Speaker 2: You know, And I don't.
- 25:13Speaker 3: I'm not saying baseball players feel good about being in
- 25:15Speaker 3: a slump, but I think they feel confident that they
- 25:17Speaker 3: will get out of it, and they've done it before,
- 25:19Speaker 3: they've seen it happen before, they know what work they
- 25:21Speaker 3: have to do, and with hockey players, they'll get out
- 25:24Speaker 3: of it. But it seems a little bit more serious
- 25:26Speaker 3: when things like that are happening where baseball players can
- 25:29Speaker 3: kind of, you know, just go at the flow day
- 25:31Speaker 3: by day. We play every day, We're gonna I'm going
- 25:33Speaker 3: to get back into it at some point.
- 25:36Speaker 1: So I was curious, Daniella. You know, Cody one time
- 25:40Speaker 1: told the story on the podcast of seeing Kirk Gibson
- 25:43Speaker 1: and Dennis Eckersley like past each other in the hallway
- 25:46Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, what's up. And these two guys
- 25:48Speaker 1: are linked in history for one of the most you know,
- 25:51Speaker 1: important moments in World series history, and it's just like
- 25:56Speaker 1: he was like, it's just like, wow, this is my life.
- 25:57Speaker 1: I just saw you know, Gibson Eggursly just kind of
- 26:00Speaker 1: like walk in the you know, walk in the hallway.
- 26:03Speaker 4: Curiod.
- 26:04Speaker 1: Yeah, just chills, like what just happened. So I am
- 26:08Speaker 1: curious if there's a moment or moments with you, especially,
- 26:12Speaker 1: you know, given these are your hometown teams where it's
- 26:14Speaker 1: just like like hot, damn, like this, this is my career,
- 26:17Speaker 1: this is my life. I just saw like I couldn't
- 26:19Speaker 1: imagine like seeing something like this or interacting with this person,
- 26:23Speaker 1: you know, ten years ago or when I didn't know
- 26:25Speaker 1: what I was going to do with my life or whatever.
- 26:27Speaker 1: I wonder if there's like a moment or a moment
- 26:29Speaker 1: or two with you for that, well.
- 26:31Speaker 3: I have a few because of the whole Detroit sports tie,
- 26:34Speaker 3: but I do have to say one that wasn't Detroit
- 26:36Speaker 3: sports related. The first time I saw Aaron Judge in person,
- 26:39Speaker 3: I was like walking to the clubhouse and we kind
- 26:41Speaker 3: of walked past each other. I was like, oh my gosh,
- 26:44Speaker 3: that's Aaron Judge, which is you know, and he's huge,
- 26:46Speaker 3: Like he's massive. So that was another thing where it
- 26:49Speaker 3: was just that was one of the things that was shocking.
- 26:51Speaker 3: But Miguel Cabrera, I was so excited that I got
- 26:54Speaker 3: to work as at the end of his career, cover
- 26:57Speaker 3: his final season as a Tiger.
- 26:58Speaker 2: That was really really cool and for me, I had
- 27:02Speaker 2: never met Jim Leland.
- 27:03Speaker 3: Before I started working with the Tigers, and that lived
- 27:07Speaker 3: up to every expectation I ever had.
- 27:09Speaker 2: I love every time I see Jim Leland.
- 27:11Speaker 3: Now I actually have a funny story, no secret that
- 27:15Speaker 3: he likes to smoke a cigarette or two.
- 27:17Speaker 2: He asked me one time. He goes, hey, do you want
- 27:19Speaker 2: a cigarette? And we were like in the dugout and
- 27:22Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I'm good. I don't smoke cigarettes.
- 27:25Speaker 3: And I look back on that all the time, like,
- 27:27Speaker 3: why didn't I just smoke a cigarette with you?
- 27:29Speaker 4: Take it? There was an intern twenty fifteen. I'm covering
- 27:35Speaker 4: the Texas Rangers. Ron Washington was an assistant with the a's.
- 27:39Speaker 4: I was doing a story and met him down on
- 27:41Speaker 4: the dugout. I'm twenty twenty one. Sit down next to
- 27:46Speaker 4: this guy and I'm kind of nervous just to talk
- 27:48Speaker 4: to him. He crosses his legs, pulls out a heater,
- 27:52Speaker 4: you want one? And I was just like, I'm an intern.
- 27:55Speaker 4: I Number one, I don't really smoke. Number two, I'm
- 27:57Speaker 4: not going to smoke in the dugout.
- 27:59Speaker 2: So I said no.
- 28:00Speaker 4: And just like that, I think all the time, why
- 28:03Speaker 4: did I not smoke a cigarette with Ron Washington? Come on, Jim,
- 28:08Speaker 4: a cigarette?
- 28:09Speaker 2: What the hell I'm doing it?
- 28:11Speaker 3: If Jim Leland ever offers me another cigarette, if you
- 28:13Speaker 3: see me smoking it.
- 28:14Speaker 2: No, you did it, because.
- 28:20Speaker 1: Everybody's got to have a everybody's got their limits, right,
- 28:23Speaker 1: and Jim Leland and Ron Washington definitely check that box, right. Yeah,
- 28:27Speaker 1: it's okay. Yeah, the expression doesn't count. Those cigarettes don't count.
- 28:30Speaker 3: There's some good hockey ones too, obviously. Steve Eiserman is
- 28:34Speaker 3: the Red Wings general manager. Nick Lindstrom is around all
- 28:36Speaker 3: the time. Chris Draper, so those guys, and Darren McCarty
- 28:40Speaker 3: he's around all the time.
- 28:42Speaker 2: I see him all the time.
- 28:43Speaker 3: So those guys were like your childhood heroes at some point,
- 28:47Speaker 3: right when you're growing.
- 28:47Speaker 2: Up with those teams in the nineties.
- 28:49Speaker 3: So yeah, I've met some pretty cool people along the way,
- 28:52Speaker 3: and now it feels kind of normal, which again sometimes
- 28:54Speaker 3: I have to like step back and be like, don't
- 28:56Speaker 3: take that for granted.
- 28:57Speaker 2: That's pretty freaking cool that that's what you have to
- 28:59Speaker 2: do for work.
- 29:03Speaker 1: Yeah, very cool. So I guess we'll wrap up this way.
- 29:05Speaker 1: I know we talked about expectations, but is there something
- 29:09Speaker 1: that you're most looking forward to? I know it kind
- 29:11Speaker 1: of seems like a similar question, but what are you
- 29:13Speaker 1: most looking forward to with the team or you know,
- 29:16Speaker 1: particular player or whatever. With the Tigers this year.
- 29:20Speaker 3: I think what I'm most looking forward to this year
- 29:23Speaker 3: is just seeing how they respond after a run like
- 29:27Speaker 3: last year, because it was pretty magical, it was pretty improbable.
- 29:30Speaker 3: How do you respond to something like that? And I
- 29:32Speaker 3: think that'll say a lot about this team. And watching
- 29:35Speaker 3: Trek Schooble pitch a cy young season, how does he
- 29:38Speaker 3: respond to that? But what does his follow up year
- 29:40Speaker 3: look like? I think there's so many good storylines surrounding
- 29:43Speaker 3: this team. There's battles at third base, which is going
- 29:46Speaker 3: to be interesting to see what they do there. There's
- 29:49Speaker 3: going to be the Spencer Torkelsen. Is he going to
- 29:52Speaker 3: make a bid to be on this opening day roster?
- 29:54Speaker 3: I think he's going to want to write like that's
- 29:56Speaker 3: the goal here and seeing how his story pans out.
- 29:59Speaker 3: So I think there's a lot of really good stuff
- 30:01Speaker 3: to watch this year and how the rotation is gonna
- 30:04Speaker 3: finish out for they say this, and I know it's cliche,
- 30:07Speaker 3: but the opening day roster.
- 30:08Speaker 2: For pitching, like it's great, but everybody.
- 30:11Speaker 3: I feel like they're gonna need all of these pitchers,
- 30:13Speaker 3: so to have everybody pitching well is a.
- 30:15Speaker 2: Really good thing right now.
- 30:16Speaker 3: So hopefully we see that kind of go into the
- 30:19Speaker 3: season as well. But I think overall, it's just how
- 30:22Speaker 3: how does this team respond because now there are expectations
- 30:25Speaker 3: not only internally but externally, fans, the organization, everybody has
- 30:29Speaker 3: some higher expectations for them this year.
- 30:33Speaker 4: I feel like every time we talk about this team
- 30:35Speaker 4: and the roster battles, were like, I mean, but we'll
- 30:37Speaker 4: see them all at some point this season.
- 30:39Speaker 3: That I guess the hard thing is because is it
- 30:41Speaker 3: really that third or do we know that they'll probably
- 30:44Speaker 3: platoon since they don't have the everyday third basement. I
- 30:47Speaker 3: know Aj has told me he would love in every
- 30:49Speaker 3: day third basement and hope somebody does take the reins
- 30:52Speaker 3: on that, but I don't know if that's gonna be
- 30:54Speaker 3: the case on the on the take right now?
- 30:56Speaker 4: Well no, then I'm just like, in a way, you
- 30:58Speaker 4: hope we don't have to see all them because that
- 31:00Speaker 4: means people are either struggling or injured. But also it's
- 31:03Speaker 4: baseball and the reality is no, we probably one way
- 31:06Speaker 4: or another are going to see every single So.
- 31:11Speaker 1: Yeah, status battle he made the opening day roster or whatever.
- 31:14Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's like, you know, starting starting
- 31:18Speaker 1: five in basketball? Does it really matter or does it
- 31:20Speaker 1: matter who finishes the game? You know, So that's kind
- 31:23Speaker 1: of That's kind of how I look at it.
- 31:25Speaker 2: And there's the Hobby Baias story too, like did the
- 31:27Speaker 2: surgery help him? Is he going to be better this year?
- 31:29Speaker 3: So Tray Sweeney has been great for the Tigers leading
- 31:33Speaker 3: up to this point, so how that position plays out
- 31:35Speaker 3: too is interesting.
- 31:37Speaker 1: Lots of stories and how the fans are For me,
- 31:40Speaker 1: it's like how the fans are, like, you know, what
- 31:42Speaker 1: kind of environment is Camerica gonna be, especially like you know,
- 31:46Speaker 1: look at the highlights from last season. You know a
- 31:49Speaker 1: lot of those games, it's you know, there's a lot
- 31:51Speaker 1: of seatbacks that you see, you know what I mean.
- 31:53Speaker 1: So I'd like to see k America kind of return.
- 31:56Speaker 1: It's not gonna be every game obviously, but kind of
- 31:57Speaker 1: return to, you know, basically what I grew up with,
- 32:00Speaker 1: that being, which is one of the most fun venues
- 32:02Speaker 1: in baseball. So that would be one of the things
- 32:04Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to as well. All right, Well, a
- 32:07Speaker 1: lot of fun discussions, a lot of fun little stories
- 32:10Speaker 1: and tibis from Danielle. We thank you so much for
- 32:12Speaker 1: joining us. You guys can follow us on x you
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- 32:20Speaker 1: Danielle before we get out here where people can find you.
- 32:23Speaker 3: You can just follow me on social media at Daniella
- 32:25Speaker 3: Bruce Underscore on all the Things, all the different platforms,
- 32:29Speaker 3: so you can follow me there.
- 32:30Speaker 1: You heard her all the things all right? Well, once again,
- 32:34Speaker 1: thank you very much, Danielle. For Cody Stavenhagen and Daniella Bruce.
- 32:38Speaker 1: I'm Kieren Steckley. Everybody have a great day.