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The Pacers Report with Greg Mengelt & Mike Rich (3.101) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: You are listening to the Pacers Report with Greg Mangel and my Gritch are reaction to the Pacers first two games of the season.
• 0:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's only on the Central Indiana Sports Report.
• 0:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, the first sentence got cut off to I was talking about.
• 0:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Pacers are bad.
• 0:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some good stuff, some bad stuff, but most of all really good to have the Pacers back.
• 0:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, really good to see the Pacers playing.
• 0:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: On a local channel.
• 0:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a positive right there, isn't it?
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 0:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Big enough positive is opening game.
• 0:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot of good and a lot of bad, but mostly good.
• 0:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tyre's struggled early, which is kind of, you know, the thing he does, he's slow starter in seasons and games it seems, and then comes on at the end, and was the hero that he always seems to be, and was a really good night.
• 1:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought he looked pretty good for, you know, second game back and still got some time to just get up to NBA speed and get to chemistry with the new players, but now absolutely looked really good, good tonight and looked better later in the game than he did at the beginning of the game.
• 1:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then rough win tonight, Friday night, ugly, ugly, lost to the Dallas Mavericks and wasn't a lot of positives, you know, they did get back in the game late, I wouldn't even say that was necessarily a positive, but it's just one of those games that
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the funny thing is, we didn't really see any of that in the preseason.
• 1:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: We certainly didn't see that.
• 1:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: They got off to a really good start at the other night.
• 1:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: But just one of those games that you did, things just kind of, I always said, the stink is contagious sometimes.
• 2:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bad teams beat good teams because the stink gets contagious sometimes.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I just seemed like what it was.
• 2:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there was necessarily even a lack of effort.
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: To me, it seemed like it was people confused about where they were supposed to be and things like that.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: We just hadn't seen any of that so far.
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the second half was much better than the first of course.
• 2:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it seems like they worked a few things out at halftime.
• 2:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: But now, it all that hype and that building tonight just kind of,
• 2:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: The steam just went away in that first quarter.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean all the energy just I mean they Dallas came out.
• 2:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: They quieted that crowd.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were they were pumped.
• 2:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: They were ready to see a good game They had ready to see the Pacers win and you know to be down 44 or 27 after the first quarter That's just not the way you want to start your first game at hell and it was way worse than that because it was tied early on and
• 3:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: about the last six minutes of the first quarter into the second quarter, really, really bad.
• 3:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Eastmith came back tonight.
• 3:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: They started Jaros Walker, which I thought was a good idea.
• 3:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, just make the statement that if Eastmith is out, that that is Jaros Walker's starting position, but that did not go well.
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: It didn't go very well for any of the new guys tonight.
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're first game at home in front of a home crowd.
• 3:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: And just not a lot to like.
• 3:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: We always say there's about 10 games a year for every team where they just don't really show up, and hopefully that's just one of ours.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully that is just one of just a very few, hopefully the rest of the season.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have wood out to say that slots and played pretty well off the bench, I was pretty impressed with him.
• 3:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Has a seen a new guy on the plane.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I at home like that I thought he the energy brought in a second half and you know he was hustling so it was good to see that.
• 4:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the first statline I'm looking at is zoo bots has got more rebounds and he does points and definitely didn't shoot any three pointers.
• 4:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, it was also minus 23 tonight, so yeah, that was not a good night for Mr. zoo bots.
• 4:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, it was not a good night, but, you know, there were some flashes of, well, yeah, some good things we're going to see.
• 4:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think later in the season too.
• 4:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and there's been a lot of that in the first two games.
• 4:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think anything to panic about at all.
• 4:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I still think we're gonna be an elite team by the end of the year.
• 4:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Has my confidence meter gone down a little bit in the last hour or so, yes, a little bit.
• 4:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard not to do that from game to game.
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of how we're built.
• 4:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: We panic when things go bad.
• 4:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: We get too excited when things go good.
• 5:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: But I think we just kind of have to write it off
• 5:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, residency bias is just, it's just natural, you know, as human, we're we're going to like said you're going to have the highs when they're doing well and you're going to, you know, just think the the worst of the worst when they have games like this, you're like it's early in the season or one in one.
• 5:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Good thing is they're not oh and two, they want to game on the road.
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: any and you saw improvement over this game as well.
• 5:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I thought you had a friend.
• 5:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to awful.
• 5:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the first half was I even think the second half you just chalk up to nothing because Dallas was kind of playing the pre-vent defense thing.
• 5:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a running back.
• 5:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's 150 yards after the teams down 35 to nothing.
• 5:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
• 5:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I read everything.
• 5:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Kyrie Irving was still just lighting it up.
• 6:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yes.
• 6:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Man, Mike, he's two guys I've always said I think would be perfect paces are playing for Dallas.
• 6:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: And one of them is Kyrie Irving.
• 6:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a little late for that.
• 6:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Since they got Tyre's Halliburton, I've dropped that, but the other one is Daniel Gafford, who you could probably see why he's the kind of guy that I thought would be the perfect fit for the.
• 6:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: For the Pacers, he only had four points tonight, but five assists.
• 6:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: He loves to pass the boy, loves to run the floor.
• 6:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's another guy that's never going to shoot with three pointer.
• 6:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: And man, does he play defense?
• 6:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what you need.
• 6:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: We sure didn't have enough defense tonight.
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, was it bad?
• 6:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was bad.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it was necessarily a lack of effort.
• 6:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was lack of communication, lack of expectation of where they were supposed to be.
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think that it was a lot of that tonight.
• 6:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's something that's probably fixable overnight, but if it's not fixable overnight, it's fixable over time, so I'm not too concerned about it.
• 7:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and offensively they seem to stand around quite a bit to you and just, you know, just not a lot of people just just just like where am I supposed to be and so I just think that's going to take just some time to build that chemistry with the team I mean.
• 7:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: The first six minutes, Mike, I was thinking, oh, this is fun.
• 7:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 7:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, this is keeping up with us right now.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: But if we keep doing this, we're going to score 130 at night and run them out of the gym and then about three minutes later, I was thinking, we're going to let them stick around.
• 7:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to lose this game, aren't we?
• 7:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we lost this game in the first corner.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, late in the first quarter, that's for sure.
• 7:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think everything after that, even the positive stuff, it's like,
• 7:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't learn a lot from a game like that because the other team now starts going deeper into its bench and of course you lose Cooper flag and that completely changes everything about the game so even the positives I'm going to throw out tonight I just I'm not going to think much about any of it.
• 8:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's good for the for the boom that Jalen Slawson's a nice player is and he's going to have a nice year.
• 8:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be fun watching the boom.
• 8:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: definitely be fun to watch the boom.
• 8:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I liked watching slossing the night.
• 8:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was impressed with his minutes.
• 8:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, I thought he householdy.
• 8:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: 16 minutes is pretty good for somebody's going to be playing on the boom quite a bit this year.
• 8:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right, Mike, I got a concern and we need to talk about the Aaron Neesmith foul as well when we come back.
• 8:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mike and I will be back soon, not exactly sure
• 8:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: and hit the notification bell that way you don't have to guess no TJ McConnell for two games Aaron Eastmith came out now he's back and it just seems like for the last three or four years this is a constant with this franchise and it's got to stop I agree we haven't been full strength and
• 9:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's hard to build on when you're just bringing people up off the bench to start and just trying to plug and play.
• 9:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Jared Walker is going to be starting if, you know, Neespis coming off the bench the next game.
• 9:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: It'll probably be Ubrae versus Walker the next time.
• 9:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: But there's not going to be any consistency with that starting lineup.
• 9:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And we haven't had consistency over the last two years and now into the three years.
• 9:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: three years yeah and the three years so it's uh that's concerning and I think that's conditioning and I think that's the training room I think there's you know that's yeah you know especially when it's hamstrings man off tissue injuries just you know they add up and add up they're nagging and you know
• 9:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Cooper 5 is hit from behind you understand why the guy goes out for the game.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why maybe misses the next game, but we're seeing hamstrings and Achilles and calves and and it's nonstop and it's all the time and Mike, you and I grow up in an era where the Pacer starting five was the same freaking starting five for five years in a row.
• 10:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Day and day out and didn't get hamstring injuries running up and down a court and no contact.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it would make sense of what they were playing more games and they were playing more minutes.
• 10:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're not.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: They should be better.
• 10:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: They shouldn't.
• 10:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: They're better nutrition.
• 10:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: They should have better stretching and aerobic instruction.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And instead we're seeing, and it's not just the Pacers, but particularly the Pacers and fever, it's just gotten really old.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I mean, that's when you're comparing year is a lot of time.
• 10:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, oh, the athlete at a day is just so much more conditioned and stronger and faster and eat better and can last longer.
• 11:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, I'd really like to see a comparison to minutes of what people play.
• 11:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: And from 90s to today.
• 11:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, I mean the the Pacers had the same starting five for four, five years and there was rarely an injury and the man was put on their bodies were Yeah, and if there was was because Reggie Miller got his eye socket broken.
• 11:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but they'd come back with a mask the next night.
• 11:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: He was right.
• 11:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
• 11:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or a twisted ankle that you would miss a gamer too.
• 11:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: That was it.
• 11:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
• 11:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and we knew when you had a major injury, sometimes guys had major injuries, but there wasn't this missing a game here, missing a game there.
• 11:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got a hamstring problem in the night.
• 11:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I get, my kids just, it's just getting really old.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think a lot of that is the players of the 90s played for the moment and the players of today played for the future.
• 12:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: and they never reach the potential that they possibly could.
• 12:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that moment because they're always just, well, I, I, I, not going to risk injury.
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So if I wasn't, I got this or something's nagging, I'm, I'm going to sit.
• 12:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, it's probably the right thing to do like to be honest, but there's, you can't, especially coming from where we've come in the last 20 months with the,
• 12:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tyre's Haliburton thing, you know, completely understand that you're cautious with things like that.
• 12:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it's just happening too much.
• 12:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you know how much credibility and respect Tyre's Haliburton got for going in and playing game seven.
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he is a pacer icon.
• 12:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because they never played again.
• 12:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: He would never played again.
• 12:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: And for him to go out there knowing the risk, but he knew what the potential reward was in that moment.
• 12:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he wasn't going to miss it.
• 13:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I don't know if people remember Mike that.
• 13:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was a discussion before the game, should he play?
• 13:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember if people know that because it was a calf strain at the time.
• 13:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it was thought to be to the point where it could be a long-term injury, if you play, and I remember everybody said, well, you just got to play.
• 13:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're risking the next season if you have to, but you got to play.
• 13:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 13:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And he did.
• 13:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if you look, if you think back, someone like Reggie Miller, Michael Jordan, Larry Berg, those types of players would have done the same exact thing.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
• 13:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
• 13:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: They did that exact same thing.
• 13:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: They did.
• 13:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 13:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the Michael Jordan, uh,
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: made the playoffs and still had the playoff record with 63 after he had to will the franchise into the playoffs past the paces, by the way, they got the last playoff spot to face the Celtics in the first round when Jordan scored a six to three.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: They had to win the last couple of games to get in the playoffs and beat out the paces for the final spot.
• 14:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the franchise wanted to get the
• 14:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's don't have that anymore, you don't have that mentality and not a lot of it.
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: There are there are a select few players, but overall it's just like it's always about potential and playing for the future.
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not about taking what you got right now and giving it your best shot to win with what you got.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: And.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're, we're, I think this team is stacked and, you know, I think it's going to take a little bit of time while I have some growing pains in the beginning of the season.
• 14:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was hoping it'd be a faster start.
• 15:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think you said I predicted five and a
• 15:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you know, we we thought that they were favored and six of the first seven or something like that and get your ass whipped like this is my good good thing.
• 15:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'm not going to sleep as well tonight as I did the other night.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, but I mean, we got a more game, so I know, I know, but I had these visions, Mike, you know, like I do every year and the team that, you know, there's going to lose a few games, but it's going to be because another team out played him this game in the scheme of things means absolutely nothing, but my confidence meter went from about a 91 to about a 79.
• 15:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, gosh, which is way too much and completely irrational, but that's how I am that that is very irrational and I think
• 15:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, after the next game, it'll probably shoot back up there in the 80s.
• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: You'll be alright.
• 16:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Mike, it's gone down even more for the boilerwakers.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, oh, God.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: First couple of games has been rough.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yeah.
• 16:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like an AAU game out there so far.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: But we know that my pain is a great coach and he'll get it figured out.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Rick Carlisle's a great coach and this thing will be just fine.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Even if they went 38 and 44 this year and snuck in the playoffs,
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: We know they'd win anyway, but I want them to win every game.
• 16:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I do too, I watching them when is a lot more fun than watching, than friends, of course.
• 16:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think the East is going to be a, it's just going to be a gauntlet together, and it's weird.
• 16:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And brutal Mike, I think a lot of good teams are going to get beat.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to beat up on each other.
• 16:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think there's going to be anybody running away with the East.
• 16:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And Mike Orlando and Miami look like two of the worst teams in the East and those two.
• 16:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, be pretty good.
• 16:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, talented.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Toronto is going to be a problem.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Atlanta is going to be a problem.
• 17:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Charlotte might be a problem when they get a pimple back.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're talking about Cleveland is pretty darn good.
• 17:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: The bulls are going to be competitive night tonight.
• 17:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, except for when you play Milwaukee in the east, there aren't a lot of nights off.
• 17:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Brooklyn.
• 17:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: All the Brooklyn's got a lot of good players.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: They just don't have a good team.
• 17:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 17:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And.
• 17:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Milwaukee's really the only pushover.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: It looks like right now.
• 17:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Even Washington's got Anthony Davis and Yeah, some talent around him and It's gonna be tough night tonight
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's got to be a tough night tonight, but yeah, the other thing is the shot just wasn't falling.
• 17:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just shoot what 22% from the three point line, take the three.
• 17:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, there's no winners.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: There was no rhythm.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it open looks the stink was contagious.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Mike, the stink was contagious and I don't know where Dallas is going to end up at the end of the year, but I mean, they could potentially make the playoffs to you.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Mike, I remember one time when you and I were in 7th or 8th grade and we went to Hamilton Heights and our entire team just played like complete crap.
• 18:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it just seriously was like it was contagious.
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it just happens to everybody whether you're a pro or an eighth grade.
• 18:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some nights it just carries from one guy to the next and you can't help it.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: and that's that's the way this was tonight it was just one guy after another no one no one really gotten rhythm I mean see I can might have to say it was probably the closest to his you know his normal mr. consistent 23 point I mean that's
• 18:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody else, you said, but a lot of turnovers, a lot of nasty ugly turnovers.
• 18:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, out of rhythm turnovers, that was the worst thing with Walker was he was a turnover machine.
• 19:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, it wasn't that, it wasn't those tennis suits and ten minutes or whatever stuff that's right there's definitely a difference between free season regular season and Jaros Walker just woke up.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I hope it's a good practice tomorrow and they come back on Sunday and
• 19:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: just put it to the Brooklyn Mets go to an O on the road.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: The league stacked all these bad teams early in the pace or schedule to make it really tough on the back end, it looks like so you gotta get off to a good start here.
• 19:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, they need to take advantage of the schedule right now, the airbikes get up to game speed.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, airbikes pretty much in the same place, you know, airbikes has teams that
• 19:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Every team has people are coming back from injury, everything else like this.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're right in the same boat as everyone else.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it's pretty even playing field.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to see us get back a couple guys off that's been injured.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to see McConnell come back and play soon.
• 20:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know what the time table is on to him.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Quick and Jackson's not been back though.
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, Clinton Jackson's not been back.
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: I liked his fight after that foul.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: You and I love those former boom players or mad ants don't we oh, yeah, oh yeah, absolutely You know at Cooper flag foul.
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was a hard foul Yeah, I don't know it was It was probably called for it.
• 20:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: It looked like maybe Aaron was frustrated Maybe he just missed judged a little and it wasn't what it seemed but I don't blame them for being a little upset about it
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, yeah, I get the flagrant one and then turn around and get a technical for getting grabbed and pushed.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And certainly hope that Cooper flags okay and that Yeah, absolutely heard him clearly.
• 21:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: But now, that guy's got to be missing it at the time.
• 21:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you could tell the difference between the halves.
• 21:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: just I mean if he's playing that game we lose by 40 yeah and the good news is only have to face you more and more time out of the next 80 games yeah I hope he has a really good year I hope he has a pretty good year to other enemies from Duke so yeah yeah only year the stink didn't get on him too much now so not too bad
• 21:43
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• 21:48
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• 21:51
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• 21:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Talking about this pace, it was game as well.
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