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Speaker 3: How are you? Doing great. Always good to be back.
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Speaker 2: a little bit. Just go back. And we're going to
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Speaker 2: get into him in a second. Jadarian Price was Seattle's
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Speaker 2: first-round pick. We were doing our pre-draft stuff with you,
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Speaker 2: and it was a ton of fun. I know you
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Speaker 2: love the roster build, and really the only roster build
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Speaker 2: for Seattle was kind of that, was the draft for
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Speaker 2: the most part when it was all said and done.
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Speaker 2: Jadarian Price, your thoughts when he was picked and your
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Speaker 2: thoughts through the first three games? I know here there's
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Speaker 2: a concern over fumbles, but what have you seen from
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Speaker 2: the Seahawks rookie running back?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, two fumbles, that's a lot in three games. So,
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Speaker 5: you know, you prorate that for the season and it's,
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Speaker 5: you know, historic records. So it's tough to, you know,
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Speaker 5: it's a tough start from that perspective. But I think
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Speaker 5: at the time when he was drafted, we knew Seattle had, what,
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Speaker 5: four picks going into the draft. We knew that they
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Speaker 5: were a little hamstrung as far as a specific need
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Speaker 5: at running back where you had Ken Walker moving on.
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Speaker 5: You have Charbonnet injured. You had a couple other players
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Speaker 5: move on, but they at least had some in-house replacements.
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Speaker 5: So you go into the draft with a very specific need.
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Speaker 5: You need a running back at some point. It's a
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Speaker 5: weird running back class where Jeremiah Love is the consensus
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Speaker 5: number one.
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Speaker 3: A lot of people did have Price as the number two.
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Speaker 3: There's some other.
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Speaker 5: Guys like Jonah Coleman, a local guy or whatever who
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Speaker 5: people liked, but they ended up going much later. And
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Speaker 5: so the pick for Price was kind of like, it
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Speaker 5: sounded like Schneider wanted to move back, didn't really have
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Speaker 5: the opportunity to do that.
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Speaker 3: So they take him. I think they like him. I
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Speaker 3: think they wanted to take him there.
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Speaker 5: They would have rather accumulate a few more picks given
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Speaker 5: the circumstances, but filled the need and you knew there'd
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Speaker 5: be some plug and play there.
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Speaker 3: I think he's looked good. I mean, outside of the fumbles,
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Speaker 3: I think he's looked good running the ball.
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Speaker 5: I think he's added some, you know, some burst and some,
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Speaker 5: you know, short area explosiveness to the, to the run game.
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Speaker 5: I think he's been fine when they, when they need them,
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Speaker 5: you know, as far as catching the ball and whatever
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Speaker 5: he's got to do out of the backfield, he's been
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Speaker 5: okay so far. I really think it's going to be
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Speaker 5: a trust factor. I think he's there. He's the runner
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Speaker 5: that they want to get going. He's the guy that,
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Speaker 5: I think they would prefer, you know, it looked great
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Speaker 5: right away within the New England game and a lot
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Speaker 5: of rookie running backs, you want to ease them in,
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Speaker 5: but I think they'd rather have him be the 15
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Speaker 5: to 20 carry guy, just a matter of, yeah, you
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Speaker 5: got to hold onto the ball and take care of
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Speaker 5: the ball security issues at this point.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know, the thing out here, Steve, is that, you know,
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Speaker 2: the ball security, the, the kind of, I mean, they
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Speaker 2: had the great drive with Emmanuel Wilson in Arizona where
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Speaker 2: they basically closed the game out with 16 plays and
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Speaker 2: kind of, kind of put that game away. But, I
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Speaker 2: think one of the things that we've seen is that
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Speaker 2: the success that Ken Walker is having, uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: in the, in the Kansas city offense and people are going, why,
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Speaker 2: why couldn't that be, you know, our guy, why couldn't
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Speaker 2: that be, you know, why, but there's a lot of
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Speaker 2: things that go into that, as you well know, a
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Speaker 2: lot of it's roster management in terms of who you're
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Speaker 2: going to have. And they, you know, they had to
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Speaker 2: re-sign JSN, they had to re-sign, uh, Devin Witherspoon, things
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Speaker 2: like that. So, I think that's the consternation. Just real
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Speaker 2: quick on Walker, because I love the perspective. Are they
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Speaker 2: using him different than Seattle did? What's going on there?
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Speaker 2: Because he is just killing it right now with the Chiefs.
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Speaker 3: I don't think so.
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Speaker 5: It's such a fascinating thing. I was joking on the
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Speaker 5: show today. I call the analytics people around the NFL,
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Speaker 5: my friends, the nerds. The nerds are going to be
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Speaker 5: at a bit of a crossroads here, because the running
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Speaker 5: back is always the final piece of the puzzle, and
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Speaker 5: you need everything else in place, and they can't carry
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Speaker 5: a team. And at the same breath, it's like, well,
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Speaker 5: Mahomes is the best quarterback of this generation. And if
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Speaker 5: you're the best quarterback, you don't need a running back, right?
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Speaker 5: That's not the guy that's going to elevate your offense.
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Speaker 5: And now all of a sudden Walker's in Kansas City
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Speaker 5: and they ran the entire offense through him in week
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Speaker 5: one against Denver.
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Speaker 3: And he has opened up a lot for that offense.
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Speaker 5: But I think the difference there is in Kansas City,
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Speaker 5: they looked at their team last year and they said, look,
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Speaker 5: we can run block pretty well. We've got a very
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Speaker 5: good interior offensive line, best center in the league.
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Speaker 3: A couple of good guards.
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Speaker 5: They can get some movement, but last year they kept
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Speaker 5: getting three, four, five yard runs. They had nothing beyond that.
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Speaker 5: They had no explosives. And that's why they tried to
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Speaker 5: trade for Brees Hall at the deadline last year and failed.
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Speaker 5: But they bring Walker in and all of a sudden
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Speaker 5: it's like, okay, we think that he'll turn a three
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Speaker 5: yard gain into 15. And sometimes he'll turn a zero
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Speaker 5: yard gain into 60, like you did week one against
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Speaker 5: the Broncos. So I think they just looked at, Hey,
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Speaker 5: we're going to give him some room to run. Plus
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Speaker 5: he doesn't need as much room to run. He's Ken Walker.
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Speaker 5: He's never always going to paint by the numbers and
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Speaker 5: just follow the blocking scheme.
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Speaker 3: He's creative. He's tough to tackle.
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Speaker 5: He's going to bounce outside and try to big play hunt.
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Speaker 5: So I think it's been a good fit for a
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Speaker 5: team that ran the ball pretty well in short yardage,
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Speaker 5: but had no explosiveness. And he's added some of that
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Speaker 5: to the team and they're running the offense through him.
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Speaker 5: They're to a point, you know, it's still going to
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Speaker 5: be Mahomes team, but it gives them a different way
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Speaker 5: to win. And so I think he's still benefiting from
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Speaker 5: having Mahomes in the past game, but he's also benefiting
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Speaker 5: from having a nice offensive line and, you know, having
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Speaker 5: the ability to create some big plays like he has.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's good perspective. And, you know, Part
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Speaker 2: of the thing is, too, when you are evaluating, when
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Speaker 2: you guys are going 33rd team, and for the podcast
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Speaker 2: and everything else, and for people that don't know, Steve
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Speaker 2: used to work for PFF, Pro Football Focus as well.
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Speaker 2: When you're going through there, the running back position seems
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Speaker 2: to be one of the great debates in the NFL.
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Speaker 2: How valuable is it? When do you take a guy
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Speaker 2: in the draft? How much do you pay a guy?
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Speaker 2: How many carries does he have? Determine how much you're
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Speaker 2: going to pay because there's that magic mark of 30
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Speaker 2: where you get to 30 and all of a sudden
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Speaker 2: you don't. you know, you're not as effective anymore. I've
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Speaker 2: always kind of been fascinated by, I guess at times,
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Speaker 2: the lack of, how do I say, prioritizing the running
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Speaker 2: back position. You know, Walker's made a difference in Kansas City.
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Speaker 2: We see Emmanuel Wilson can't get to the same spots as, say,
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Speaker 2: Judarian Price. He doesn't have the same juice to get
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Speaker 2: to the outside, especially in some of those stretch plays.
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Speaker 2: Devon Achan, now out for the year for Miami, difference maker.
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Speaker 2: How much priority should be placed on the running back position?
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Speaker 5: I think the tricky part is there's obviously 11 players
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Speaker 5: on offense, there's 22 on the field, and there's a
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Speaker 5: lot of moving parts. And I think it's still relatively
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Speaker 5: true that the running back is the most dependent position
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Speaker 5: as far as their run blocking goes and the pass
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Speaker 5: game helps set up the run.
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Speaker 3: And all those things are absolutely true.
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Speaker 5: I think what we've seen, and there's some good examples
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Speaker 5: across the last few years, like Derrick Henry, his last
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Speaker 5: few years in Tennessee is averaging under four yards per carry.
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Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey could not carry the Carolina Panthers offense when
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Speaker 5: they had nothing else. But when you drop both of
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Speaker 5: those players, and Saquon Barkley, same thing. I mean, when
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Speaker 5: he was with the Giants, he was averaging 3.9 the
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Speaker 5: year before he went to Philadelphia. Those are all really
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Speaker 5: good examples of, okay, you put McCaffrey on the Niners
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Speaker 5: and he has Kittle and he has all the receivers
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Speaker 5: and a good quarterback and all of that is.
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Speaker 5: And then McCaffrey is like the force multiplier for that offense.
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Speaker 5: So he's really impactful, but he kind of needs everything
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Speaker 5: around him. He can't do it by himself. JSN might
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Speaker 5: be able to do it by himself, right? He's that
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Speaker 5: good that just having a QB and a JSN could
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Speaker 5: probably carry a team to a point. You can't do
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Speaker 5: that as much at running back. Everybody needs help. He
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Speaker 5: can't do it as much at running back. And so
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Speaker 5: Derek Henry, same thing, 2000 yards when he goes to Baltimore,
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Speaker 5: when he has Lamar and everyone else, and then Saquon
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Speaker 5: the 2000 yard season, when he has a great offensive
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Speaker 5: line and a good system. So I think that's the
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Speaker 5: point is a great running back can be a force
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Speaker 5: multiplier and And then in stretches, like Seattle had last year, hey,
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Speaker 5: Sam Donald's efficiency comes down just a little bit, or
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Speaker 5: maybe you're dealing with some stuff, or he's not averaging
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Speaker 5: 10 yards per attempt like he was the first half
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Speaker 5: of the season. Hey, by the way, Ken Walker can
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Speaker 5: go take over some games here and there as well.
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Speaker 5: I think that's how you look at it. It's tough
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Speaker 5: to build an entire offense around a running back. You're
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Speaker 5: going to major in winning in the pass game, but
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Speaker 5: you need multiple ways to win, which includes a run game,
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Speaker 5: and then a running back in a good situation can
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Speaker 5: be a force multiplier and create those big plays and
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Speaker 5: really keep defenses off balance.
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Speaker 3: Well said.
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Speaker 2: that in a second. Steve, just a general overview so far.
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Speaker 2: Three games into the NFL season. Out here, we kind
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Speaker 2: of have this feeling that the NFC West is going
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Speaker 2: to be like the American League East this year, with
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Speaker 2: Tampa and the Yankees and Red Sox all getting the postseason.
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Speaker 2: It feels like San Francisco, Seattle, and the Rams are
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Speaker 2: all playoff teams. Two will be wild cards. One will
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Speaker 2: be the division winner. With that as our setup, I
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Speaker 2: look around the league right now and the NFC specifically.
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Speaker 2: You get to that two or three loss mark this early,
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Speaker 2: you're in trouble. Tampa seems to be in massive trouble.
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Speaker 2: Green Bay's got all kinds of issues. These are all
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Speaker 2: teams we thought maybe would be wild card teams. The
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Speaker 2: Giants now... with, well, I say without a quarterback.
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Speaker 6: J.J.
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Speaker 2: McCarthy is there now, too. Rams, we don't worry about
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Speaker 2: too much. Overview of what you've seen so far in
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Speaker 2: the NFC, and I'll ask it this way. Who's in
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Speaker 2: the most trouble in the NFC right now?
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Speaker 5: And you could put, let's say the NFC South is
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Speaker 5: like the AL West.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Is that the other proper comparison? That is our pillow
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Speaker 2: fight out here. And I should mention, it's also the
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Speaker 2: opening night for hockey season, the NHL, our crack and
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Speaker 2: start their sixth season tonight. Uh, last year, uh, the, the,
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Speaker 2: the thing was called the Pacific division out here was called, uh,
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Speaker 2: the pillow fight, uh, Vegas ends up winning it, but
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Speaker 2: by default almost now they ended up going to the
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Speaker 2: Stanley cup finals, but yes, whether Pacific division, AL West,
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Speaker 2: what have you, that would be the NFC South where
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Speaker 2: one and two Carolina leads right now.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: So as far as the NFC, I think, I think
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Speaker 5: the Packers are in a, it's relative to expectations.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 3: A lot of trouble. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I mean, like they, we were expecting the Packers to
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Speaker 5: be competitive, but the They've been a 9- or 10-win
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Speaker 5: team all the time under Matt LaFleur. The question's winning
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Speaker 5: more than one playoff game. They're in a lot of trouble.
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Speaker 5: They can't block anybody. They picked up three guards off
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Speaker 5: the street, which, to be fair, I think they're all
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Speaker 5: upgrades over what they've been trotting out there the last
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Speaker 5: couple years, so maybe they'll improve. But that's another one.
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Speaker 5: You talk about the impact of a run game, and
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Speaker 5: it looks bad when I tell you the running back
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Speaker 5: doesn't matter. Josh Jacobs absolutely matters for that team. He
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Speaker 5: hasn't been out there. They've got the worst running back,
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Speaker 5: the worst run game in the NFL from an efficiency standpoint.
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Speaker 5: So Josh Jacobs, relative to the backup situation over there,
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Speaker 5: huge difference. Jordan Love's under intense pressure. So the Packers
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Speaker 5: are in trouble. The Bucs are in trouble. I mean,
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Speaker 5: even when Baker Mayfield's out there, they're 0-3. They're starting
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Speaker 5: an undrafted rookie free agent, Jalen Daniels. He has some upside,
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Speaker 5: looks intriguing, but he's an undrafted rookie free agent. Even
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Speaker 5: if he wins a couple games here and there, I
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Speaker 5: don't know that he's you know, holding the fort for
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Speaker 5: the next three to four weeks while Baker's injured.
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Speaker 3: So I think those teams really stand out.
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Speaker 5: Dallas is going to be interesting because we thought that
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Speaker 5: their defense was supposed to be better and it looks
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Speaker 5: almost as.
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Speaker 3: Bad as last year, maybe similar.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Even though they're adding Joey Porter Jr. to the mix here.
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Speaker 5: So another team that has the talents, they're also one,
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Speaker 5: you know, kind of a, not fluky play, but like
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Speaker 5: a funky last minute play and walk off field goal last,
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Speaker 5: you know, last week from being two and one.
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Speaker 3: So they're close.
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Speaker 5: But the Dallas defense is a bit of a concern.
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Speaker 5: But it's still early. There's a lot of football to
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Speaker 5: be played. But I'd say the Packers and Bucs, who
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Speaker 5: are playing each other this week, are, relative to expectations,
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Speaker 5: probably the biggest disappointments.
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Speaker 2: Maybe a disappointment in the AFC is who we're going
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Speaker 2: to see this week out here in Seattle for the
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Speaker 2: Seahawks game at home against the Los Angeles Chargers. 0-3 already, Steve.
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Speaker 2: What's going on with the Chargers?
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Speaker 3: Everything's bad. It's all bad. It's all bad. It's mostly
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Speaker 3: bad on offense. It hasn't been great on defense.
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Speaker 5: I mean, they had a sneaky good defense the last
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Speaker 5: few years, but Jesse Minter, the defensive coordinator, moves on
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Speaker 5: to Baltimore. I had a feeling the defense could regress
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Speaker 5: a little bit.
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Speaker 3: Okay, checkmark. The offense, I was not expecting it to
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Speaker 3: be this bad.
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Speaker 5: They're running the ball at an extremely high rate on
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Speaker 5: early downs.
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Speaker 3: They're the least efficient.
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Speaker 5: They're even worse than the Packers as far as running
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Speaker 5: the ball efficiency-wise on early downs. So they're getting into
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Speaker 5: awful down-and-distance situations. Justin Herbert can only throw the ball
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Speaker 5: effectively to Ladd McConkie, it seems. And I think he
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Speaker 5: only wants to throw the ball to Ladd McConkie. And
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Speaker 5: that's what I've been seeing is he looks, Herbert, very
15:12
Speaker 5: uncomfortable in this new Mike McDaniel offense.
15:14
Speaker 3: There's no rhythm to it.
15:16
Speaker 5: There's been two and three play stretches where you see
15:19
Speaker 5: some creativity in a couple plays, but there's no sustainability.
15:22
Speaker 3: And now Herbert is making bad decisions.
15:24
Speaker 5: And so Herbert's a fun hot button issue, you know,
15:27
Speaker 5: talented toolsy quarterback who hasn't won a ton, but he's
15:30
Speaker 5: won a little bit. And he's had 900 different offensive coordinators.
15:33
Speaker 3: And here's the potential. And has he got into it yet?
15:36
Speaker 3: And how good is he? Plenty of debates.
15:38
Speaker 5: But the one thing he's always done is taking good
15:40
Speaker 5: care of the ball other than those couple of playoff games.
15:43
Speaker 5: But in the regular season, he takes care of the ball.
15:46
Speaker 5: And then last week, he throws three balls right to
15:48
Speaker 5: the bills in the red zone. Only one counted as
15:50
Speaker 5: an interception. One was negated by penalty.
15:52
Speaker 3: One was dropped.
15:53
Speaker 5: And so now Herbert is pressing and not looking good.
15:55
Speaker 3: So it's all bad. They can't throw it. They can't
15:57
Speaker 3: run it.
15:58
Speaker 5: McDaniel's not adding anything to the offense. The guard situation
16:01
Speaker 5: is still awful like it was last year. All that said,
16:04
Speaker 5: on paper, Seattle should crush them with what Seattle's defense
16:08
Speaker 5: is capable of.
16:08
Speaker 3: But it's football.
16:09
Speaker 5: And in any given week, Justin Herbert could play well.
16:12
Speaker 5: But right now, the first three weeks have been pretty
16:14
Speaker 5: bad for the Chargers.
16:15
Speaker 2: It feels like, if nothing else, Steve Palazzolo brought to
16:17
Speaker 2: you by Zeke's Pizza, Zeke'sPizza.com. It feels like nothing else that,
16:20
Speaker 2: in the case of the Chargers– And Herbert throwing the ball,
16:24
Speaker 2: he just doesn't have any weapons.
16:25
Speaker 5: So I don't think they're that bad. I think they've
16:27
Speaker 5: all gotten worse. This is what's intriguing about Mike McDaniel,
16:30
Speaker 5: who was supposed to be this potential upgrade. Again, I
16:33
Speaker 5: think the offense early in the season, week one, you
16:35
Speaker 5: saw it. It ran through Ladd-McConkie. Then he got banged
16:38
Speaker 5: up and it fell apart. And if he's ever off
16:40
Speaker 5: the field, Herbert looks a little lost. He really does.
16:42
Speaker 5: It just doesn't look right. Ladd-McConkie's great. I think Trey
16:46
Speaker 5: Harris has some ability. Quinton Johnston... had a slow start
16:50
Speaker 5: to his career, but he was on the ascent and
16:52
Speaker 5: it feels like he's regressed. It feels like everybody on
16:54
Speaker 5: this offense, not named Vlad McConkie, has regressed and gotten worse.
16:58
Speaker 5: So I don't think they're completely devoid of talent. I'm
17:01
Speaker 5: not saying it's the best playmaker situation in the world,
17:04
Speaker 5: but it's not an awful group. They were also supposed to,
17:06
Speaker 5: I really enjoyed the offseason moves at tight end where
17:09
Speaker 5: they brought in Charlie Kohler and David Njoku. Both of
17:12
Speaker 5: those guys are hurt. So they've had some injuries. They
17:15
Speaker 5: shouldn't be this bad offensively. given their talent level, but
17:19
Speaker 5: they are. I do feel like everybody's regressed other than
17:22
Speaker 5: Ladd McConkie on that side of the ball.
17:23
Speaker 2: I'll wrap it up with this. Steve, just a thought
17:26
Speaker 2: on what you've seen Seattle the first three games. One
17:27
Speaker 2: of the things I've discussed out here, the running game
17:30
Speaker 2: hasn't been there at all. Part of it is the reluctance,
17:34
Speaker 2: or I guess not the reluctance, the trust factor with
17:37
Speaker 2: Jadarian Price that we talked about earlier. The fact that... Hell,
17:41
Speaker 2: if nothing else, Jackson Smith and Jigba is doing Ken
17:44
Speaker 2: Walker things here, right? Why would you bother doing anything
17:48
Speaker 2: else when you can just throw it to JSN, who's
17:49
Speaker 2: got 27 catches in the first three games and six
17:52
Speaker 2: touchdowns along the way? But they haven't played great first halves.
17:55
Speaker 2: They've only got 17 first-half points to Seahawks. They've been
17:58
Speaker 2: outscored 31-17. Second half's a much different story. We know
18:01
Speaker 2: turnovers can come into play, as he did in Washington.
18:03
Speaker 2: But your thoughts on what you've seen from Seattle so
18:05
Speaker 2: far on both sides?
18:06
Speaker 5: Yeah, so offensively, obviously having to deal with Sam Darnold
18:09
Speaker 5: going down after a handful of plays, that's an issue.
18:11
Speaker 3: I thought Drew Locke held it down really well.
18:13
Speaker 5: I thought he did a nice job making just enough
18:16
Speaker 5: plays against New England and then against Arizona. I thought
18:20
Speaker 5: he did a really nice job getting the ball to JSN,
18:22
Speaker 5: the three-touchdown game.
18:23
Speaker 3: JSN's outstanding. He's uncoverable.
18:27
Speaker 5: At some point, teams will really overcommit to slow him down,
18:32
Speaker 5: but I think the Seahawks have enough elsewhere to, to
18:35
Speaker 5: make do. So I feel good about their past game.
18:38
Speaker 5: You'd love to see a more complimentary run game. But again,
18:40
Speaker 5: last year at this time, they were, it was a
18:42
Speaker 5: high volume rushing attack without a lot of success. And,
18:46
Speaker 5: you know, through what two thirds of the season or
18:48
Speaker 5: so it was like, Hey, we're running a lot, but
18:49
Speaker 5: not really efficiently, but the past games carrying us in a,
18:53
Speaker 5: you know, more of a low volume, high efficiency manner.
18:55
Speaker 5: So I just think they have enough ways to win.
18:57
Speaker 5: They'll get the run game going at some point. I
18:59
Speaker 5: think price will settle in and they'll trust him. And
19:02
Speaker 5: he's just got to take care of the ball. And
19:04
Speaker 5: the loss last week, you know, for Seattle fans, I'd
19:06
Speaker 5: say you could call it fluky. I wouldn't say this
19:09
Speaker 5: on Washington radio. I'd say, great job.
19:10
Speaker 3: You guys forced those turnovers.
19:12
Speaker 5: But in Seattle, you look at it and say, look,
19:14
Speaker 5: we had 200 more yards than Washington. The defense gave
19:18
Speaker 5: up a few plays, but they had short fields. A
19:20
Speaker 5: lot of points came either off the pick six or
19:22
Speaker 5: off turnovers, right? So like 17 points off of either
19:26
Speaker 5: turnovers or the pick six. They scored 17 points, Washington,
19:29
Speaker 5: on 60 yards of offense. That's not sustainable. That's kind
19:32
Speaker 5: of a fluky game where Seattle's defense is still outstanding.
19:35
Speaker 5: They could stop the run. They make life difficult for
19:38
Speaker 5: opposing quarterbacks. Crazy stat that Arizona didn't even complete a
19:41
Speaker 5: 10-yard pass. Total yards, not air yards, in Week 2.
19:44
Speaker 3: That's wild. So I think they'll be fine. I think
19:47
Speaker 3: they'll be fine.
19:47
Speaker 5: Donald looked good coming off the injury last week, other than.
19:50
Speaker 5: fluky interception in the in the pick six that you
19:52
Speaker 5: know tough read or you know tough your great play
19:54
Speaker 5: by the defense so i think they'll be fine would
19:57
Speaker 5: love to get the run game on be a little
19:58
Speaker 5: bit more consistent there but i think they look a
20:00
Speaker 5: lot like last year's team in totality tough team to
20:03
Speaker 5: be great defense that can put up a lot of.
20:05
Speaker 2: Points Looking forward to doing this again all season. We'll
20:07
Speaker 2: really jump knee deep into the rest of the NFL
20:09
Speaker 2: next week as well. As we head into week, how
20:12
Speaker 2: would that be? Week five next week? My God, already.
20:14
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Speaker 2: Excited to do this again this year, my friend. We'll
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Speaker 4: Yeah, unfortunately, we're going to enter a pretty dark period
21:57
Speaker 4: here after the World Series, so best of luck to
22:01
Speaker 4: all of us baseball fans that it gets resolved somewhat quickly.
22:04
Speaker 2: Ryan Healy, the former player, does some work on the
22:08
Speaker 2: Mariners broadcast, recently retired, as you know. He's on our
22:11
Speaker 2: morning show once a week. He was on this morning,
22:14
Speaker 2: and they asked him the same thing, like, hey, what
22:16
Speaker 2: do you think? Do you think there's going to be
22:19
Speaker 2: some games missed? And And he's like, yeah, I think unfortunately.
22:22
Speaker 2: So I'll just start there before we move on to
22:23
Speaker 2: the stuff on the field. The feeling you get personally
22:27
Speaker 2: talking to guys around the league, et cetera, I think
22:29
Speaker 2: is it safe to say we should all expect some
22:31
Speaker 2: sort of delay in the start of the 2027 season?
22:36
Speaker 7: I think so.
22:37
Speaker 4: But I think the two most likely outcomes are this. Um,
22:43
Speaker 4: something that looks a little bit like the last CBA
22:45
Speaker 4: where our spring is truncated and we don't miss any games, um,
22:51
Speaker 4: you know, regular season games, we have to cut some
22:54
Speaker 4: spring and there's some sort of hurried agreement in mid March.
22:59
Speaker 6: Right.
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Speaker 4: Um, and the reason for that would be that the
23:05
Speaker 4: owners do realize that the players are are never going
23:08
Speaker 4: to budge on the, uh, on the salary gap thing.
23:12
Speaker 4: And they, and they don't, the owners don't have, um,
23:15
Speaker 4: you know, sort of the will to, to lose actual
23:18
Speaker 4: regular season games that that could still happen.
23:22
Speaker 6: I I'm, that's what I'm hoping for.
23:23
Speaker 7: That's, I think that's actually best case scenario right now.
23:26
Speaker 6: Yeah.
23:27
Speaker 4: Uh, the next most likely thing is that in June, um,
23:34
Speaker 4: There's a, there's a benchmark in that happens somewhere between
23:38
Speaker 4: May and June, where if they don't get going, they
23:43
Speaker 4: won't get enough games for this year to count as
23:47
Speaker 4: a year in the TV contracts. So if that happens
23:52
Speaker 4: and this year does not count as a year, the
23:55
Speaker 4: owners still get paid for this year, but they don't.
23:57
Speaker 6: Get paid for 2029.
23:59
Speaker 4: And this is a big deal because that means that
24:02
Speaker 4: TV networks get a free full season of baseball. And also,
24:08
Speaker 4: Manfred has set this up where all of his TV
24:11
Speaker 4: contracts are set to expire in 2027. He wants to
24:17
Speaker 4: go to the market in 2028 owning most of the
24:20
Speaker 4: team's local rights as well as the national rights. and
24:25
Speaker 4: he wants to go to netflix and all those places
24:28
Speaker 4: and he wants to recruit something like the you know
24:31
Speaker 4: billions and billions of dollars that the nfl and the
24:34
Speaker 4: nba have gotten out of their tv deals and he
24:36
Speaker 4: thinks the best way to do that is to do
24:38
Speaker 4: this this approach so he has a lot of deals
24:41
Speaker 4: uh local deals and and rights that are expiring in
24:44
Speaker 4: 2028 if those get pushed to 2029 um you know
24:48
Speaker 4: messes up a big a lot of his plans so
24:51
Speaker 4: And a full year of free TV from the TV
24:55
Speaker 4: rights holders, I think that's something that the owners can't
24:59
Speaker 4: stomach because that's maybe a quarter to a third of
25:03
Speaker 4: their income on a given year.
25:06
Speaker 6: And it's fixed income.
25:07
Speaker 4: It's income that's supposed to come to them no matter what.
25:10
Speaker 4: So I think the worst case scenario is baseball starts
25:12
Speaker 4: on June 1st.
25:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I saw it. It's a 60-day thing, right?
25:16
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's 60 games or 60 days,
25:18
Speaker 2: but probably 60 games. And once you get to that point,
25:21
Speaker 2: then the TV contract rolls over and you lose that
25:24
Speaker 2: year and you're the owners. And if Ian Osiris knows
25:27
Speaker 2: that and Ian Furness knows that, I'm guessing the players
25:29
Speaker 2: know that. That's a pretty heavy leverage tool that they
25:32
Speaker 2: can use.
25:33
Speaker 4: Yes, and that's why it becomes suddenly more.
25:36
Speaker 6: Likely if they don't figure it out in March. It
25:38
Speaker 6: kind of.
25:38
Speaker 4: it almost seems suddenly more likely that the next leverage
25:41
Speaker 4: point will be sometime in May.
25:43
Speaker 7: And that's unfortunate.
25:45
Speaker 4: And I'm so sad for my Rates and Barrels show.
25:50
Speaker 4: If we have to broadcast into May, we're going to
25:55
Speaker 4: be covering some funny topics.
25:57
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that.
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Speaker 7: We have a little bit of practice because of COVID. Yes.
26:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately, we all have practice on talking about sports
26:06
Speaker 2: when games aren't taking place. I don't want to go
26:07
Speaker 2: through that again. At all, ever again.
26:10
Speaker 7: I don't either.
26:11
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to go through that. Ito Saris, joining us
26:13
Speaker 2: at the Athletic Rates and Barrels podcast. We talked a
26:15
Speaker 2: little bit last week about managers and the shortlist and
26:19
Speaker 2: looking around, knowing that Dan Wilson was going to be gone.
26:21
Speaker 2: That became official on... Torrey Lovello is off the list.
26:26
Speaker 2: Does that say more about, because he could have chose
26:29
Speaker 2: to go somewhere else, does that say more about the
26:31
Speaker 2: Diamondbacks or the Mariners or other teams around baseball that
26:35
Speaker 2: he decided to resign and stick in Arizona?
26:37
Speaker 4: I think it just has to do with comfort, personal comfort.
26:45
Speaker 4: his own, you know, what he wants to do. Um,
26:48
Speaker 4: you know, and, you know, I think he, he lost
26:51
Speaker 4: his wife there, but he has, uh, roots there. Um,
26:55
Speaker 4: and so I, I think that's a, that's about personal comfort. Um,
26:59
Speaker 4: I think there's a, there's some interesting names out there.
27:01
Speaker 4: You know, Alex core is the big name. Um, you know,
27:06
Speaker 4: I don't know that he'd come to Seattle, but especially
27:08
Speaker 4: because he's been rumored, uh, to, to go to, um,
27:14
Speaker 4: Rumored to go to either Philadelphia or New York. That
27:18
Speaker 4: seems to be a good fit for him. Rocco Baldelli
27:22
Speaker 4: is thought of as a really good manager with young players.
27:29
Speaker 6: David Ross has experience.
27:32
Speaker 4: And has been in the booth for a little bit.
27:37
Speaker 4: And then I, you know, I'm a big Ky Correa fan.
27:41
Speaker 6: Yep.
27:42
Speaker 7: So, you know, that's an option.
27:46
Speaker 4: So, you know, the one thing that I don't know
27:50
Speaker 4: that is my favorite.
27:53
Speaker 6: Is like kind of the Albert Pujols idea, you know.
27:56
Speaker 4: He doesn't really have a connection to the Mariners. And
28:02
Speaker 4: not every superstar is a good manager and coach.
28:05
Speaker 3: They.
28:07
Speaker 4: I think of like Barry Bonds was, you know, he
28:09
Speaker 4: famously like didn't show up sometimes in, in Miami when
28:13
Speaker 4: he was hitting coach.
28:17
Speaker 7: And what I was like, the biggest example is Michael Jordan, right?
28:19
Speaker 6: Like, yes.
28:20
Speaker 7: You know, he's not a good coach. He's kind of like,
28:23
Speaker 7: just do it.
28:24
Speaker 6: Just do it. Like I did it, you know, like do.
28:27
Speaker 4: It, do this, you know, they're like, you're Michael Jordan.
28:30
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. I can't do what Michael Jordan did. I'm sorry.
28:34
Speaker 4: I think the one exception to me for me is
28:36
Speaker 4: a little bit Carlos Beltran just because he was like
28:41
Speaker 4: a top step, you know, David Ortiz type in terms
28:44
Speaker 4: of like, this is the next pitch that's coming. He
28:47
Speaker 4: was a guy that took young guys under his wing
28:50
Speaker 4: on teams. I know he has a little bit of
28:53
Speaker 4: the Astros science scene and scandal around him, but I
28:58
Speaker 4: just thought he was one of the smartest players on
29:00
Speaker 4: the field at all times. So that's the only kind
29:03
Speaker 4: of exception I have between when it comes to like
29:05
Speaker 4: the superstar former players, manager types.
29:09
Speaker 2: I was thinking like, like Larry Bird was okay. I think,
29:13
Speaker 2: as a coach, but he was the exception. Mikhail, okay,
29:15
Speaker 2: in the NBA. Wayne Gretzky was Jordan-like. Those are two
29:19
Speaker 2: of the most iconic figures. Wayne Gretzky was an awful coach.
29:22
Speaker 2: And the same thing. It's like, well, yeah, you just
29:25
Speaker 2: go here, and you skate here, and do this, and
29:27
Speaker 2: you score 100 goals. It's pretty easy. That's what you do. Well, no,
29:30
Speaker 2: it's really not.
29:31
Speaker 4: If it's going to be a former player, like, I
29:34
Speaker 4: want them to be bad.
29:39
Speaker 7: Like, Ryan Flaherty, you know, I'm not trying.
29:41
Speaker 4: To besmirch his career as a player, but, like, that's
29:45
Speaker 4: the type of player I want because.
29:47
Speaker 7: I think they can speak.
29:49
Speaker 4: Every major league player was once a fairly good player,
29:54
Speaker 4: like was once either the best player on their college
29:56
Speaker 4: team or their high school team.
29:57
Speaker 6: They were drafted.
29:58
Speaker 4: So they understand what it's like to feel good about
30:02
Speaker 4: yourself and to be on top of the world. But
30:05
Speaker 4: then they also know what it feels like to be
30:07
Speaker 4: on the bottom of the world. And I feel like
30:10
Speaker 4: your manager needs to speak to both sides of that.
30:12
Speaker 4: It can't just be Albert Pujols who just ran on
30:16
Speaker 4: through the big leagues, man. He was good from the
30:20
Speaker 4: moment he got here. He was like a Hall of
30:22
Speaker 4: Famer in day one.
30:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Sarah's joining us right now. I want
30:27
Speaker 2: to get a couple things in here before we go.
30:29
Speaker 2: One of the things, and I mentioned this to Ashley
30:31
Speaker 2: earlier in the show, that I wanted to ask you today. Because,
30:35
Speaker 2: you know, with Seattle and everything that kind of went
30:39
Speaker 2: wrong this year and you see a team go 500
30:41
Speaker 2: and win the damn division, it just kind of makes
30:43
Speaker 2: you pound your head against the wall even more. How
30:46
Speaker 2: would you, as someone who studies the pitching part of
30:49
Speaker 2: this game as intently as anybody, how would you put
30:52
Speaker 2: a wrap on the starting rotation for Seattle this season
30:55
Speaker 2: that for a while included, you know, Castillo and so forth?
30:59
Speaker 2: Because it kind of feels to me like they They
31:03
Speaker 2: didn't reach the levels they should have.
31:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that a few of them had down years.
31:13
Speaker 4: I look particularly at George Kirby as someone who can
31:18
Speaker 4: do better next year and to do better in the future.
31:20
Speaker 4: We talked a lot about Brian Wu's home road splits.
31:24
Speaker 4: I think Bryce Miller's were injury-related. He looked so good
31:29
Speaker 4: when he came back and felt healthy. I'm not in
31:32
Speaker 4: his brain, but I would just assume that a lot
31:34
Speaker 4: of what happened after that was him feeling more and
31:38
Speaker 4: more unhealthy and feeling those bones. I wouldn't be surprised
31:41
Speaker 4: at all if there was some sort of surgery to
31:44
Speaker 4: finally get rid of those. Gilbert's been pretty good. To
31:48
Speaker 4: some extent, they coach themselves. We talked about how they're
31:50
Speaker 4: a really heady group.
31:51
Speaker 6: That coach themselves.
31:53
Speaker 4: I think Kate Anderson showed real improvement start to start
31:57
Speaker 4: over the course of his mini-season. They ended up the
32:01
Speaker 4: ninth-best rotation by Fangraph's War. Honestly, it doesn't seem like
32:07
Speaker 4: something that I need to panic about. Would I change
32:12
Speaker 4: pitching coaches? I wouldn't even need to go that far,
32:15
Speaker 4: but would I... maybe sit like what I sit down
32:17
Speaker 4: organizationally with the pitching coach and the director of pitching
32:19
Speaker 4: and say, you know, is there, is there a problem here?
32:22
Speaker 4: You know, do we need to look into this further?
32:24
Speaker 4: I would definitely do that.
32:26
Speaker 5: Yeah.
32:26
Speaker 4: I think that the more problematic aspect, you know, and
32:29
Speaker 4: this is actually, this is hand in glove of what
32:32
Speaker 4: you're talking about.
32:33
Speaker 7: So, you know, they, they, as a team, um, you know, they.
32:39
Speaker 4: Suffered the pitching did from one of the worst defenses
32:43
Speaker 4: in the big leagues. Hmm.
32:45
Speaker 6: Yeah.
32:46
Speaker 2: Jerry brought that up. Jerry DiPoto brought that up in
32:50
Speaker 2: his end-of-the-year news conference. He talked about that.
32:53
Speaker 4: It's not just one or the other. To some extent,
32:57
Speaker 4: those guys did suffer from their defenses. You look at
33:01
Speaker 4: the defensive numbers. Cole Young is a real big positive
33:04
Speaker 4: in defensive runs saved and a negative in the stack
33:07
Speaker 4: cast numbers. From watching him, I thought he was at
33:11
Speaker 4: least a slight positive. I don't think that's a big problem.
33:15
Speaker 4: Colt Emerson was a positive in DRS and a small
33:22
Speaker 4: negative in stat cast. He had a really good reputation
33:26
Speaker 4: coming up, and he was hurt, and he's young. So
33:29
Speaker 4: I'm going to say that up the middle, I think
33:32
Speaker 4: that they're fine, at least in the infield. Young, Emerson,
33:35
Speaker 4: and Rowley, at the most important positions defensively, I think
33:39
Speaker 4: they will be as good or better next year. I think,
33:43
Speaker 4: like I said before, maybe move Julio off center, find
33:46
Speaker 4: a good defensive solution up the middle there, and then
33:52
Speaker 4: maybe all the defense gets a little bit better next year.
33:54
Speaker 4: And maybe that helps your pitching staff.
33:57
Speaker 2: I'll wrap it up with this. We're almost done with
33:59
Speaker 2: the wild card. Just one game left to be decided
34:02
Speaker 2: tonight with Philly and Atlanta. But everything else is done
34:05
Speaker 2: in two games. The other three are done in two games.
34:07
Speaker 2: What's your big takeaway so far from the postseason?
34:13
Speaker 4: The thing that makes it so hard to predict and
34:16
Speaker 4: most of the numbers that we use to predict regular
34:18
Speaker 4: season numbers don't really.
34:19
Speaker 6: Work in the playoffs.
34:20
Speaker 7: I think the thing that makes it so hard to
34:21
Speaker 7: predict is, you.
34:23
Speaker 4: Know, there's these strategies that you can unload that you
34:26
Speaker 4: cannot unload over the course of the season. I mean,
34:28
Speaker 4: it is, impractical to use your rookie starting pitcher, Andrew
34:33
Speaker 4: Painter for two innings, um, you know, two or three
34:36
Speaker 4: days before you expect to need to use them again
34:38
Speaker 4: as a starter. You know, it's, it's impractical to kind of,
34:42
Speaker 4: you know, do all these things that they do, um,
34:44
Speaker 4: with the pitching staffs and to, to try and run.
34:47
Speaker 6: Your closer for three innings.
34:49
Speaker 4: Uh, like the Phillies did with John Duran, like those
34:52
Speaker 4: things you cannot do for one 62. Cause you'll, you'll
34:55
Speaker 4: get into real trouble with, uh, with injuries and fatigue. So, um,
35:01
Speaker 4: it also is weird that we then play baseball all
35:05
Speaker 4: year one way, and then we get to the post
35:08
Speaker 4: season and it seems like we're playing under.
35:10
Speaker 7: Completely different rules.
35:11
Speaker 4: I mean, we literally, there are, there's no Manfred man
35:13
Speaker 4: in the extra innings, but there's, There's just also like
35:16
Speaker 4: this weird, like, oh, the closer is coming in the
35:19
Speaker 4: third and the starter is coming in the seventh. And like,
35:24
Speaker 4: I don't know. I, I, this is when I get
35:26
Speaker 4: my grumpiness a little bit about the, um, lack of
35:30
Speaker 4: starters the way that we used to have them. Because I, I,
35:33
Speaker 4: I feel like this is a big stage. There are
35:35
Speaker 4: people who don't watch baseball all year and then come
35:38
Speaker 4: to watch now. Like my, my son, my oldest son
35:41
Speaker 4: watches intermittently all year, but then he really kind of
35:44
Speaker 4: starts to watch. and he knows the starters names but
35:48
Speaker 4: he doesn't know all the relievers names and for him
35:51
Speaker 4: I would love to gift him you know Mizorowski versus
35:55
Speaker 4: Schlittler every night you know and instead we get you
36:00
Speaker 4: know for a lot of these games we get a
36:01
Speaker 4: parade of just name after name after name so this
36:06
Speaker 4: is why I start to agree with Max Scherzer and
36:08
Speaker 4: Justin Verlander who think that we need to have a
36:10
Speaker 4: rule that requires the starting pitcher to stay.
36:12
Speaker 2: In the game Yeah, something could be done, I think,
36:15
Speaker 2: with that.
36:16
Speaker 3: I was going to.
36:17
Speaker 2: I'll just wrap it up real quick. Did you ever
36:19
Speaker 2: think three or four years ago you'd see a baseball
36:22
Speaker 2: playoff series end on a video review, a.k.a. an ABS challenge?
36:26
Speaker 6: Yeah.
36:28
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it was... That's another thing.
36:32
Speaker 4: On TV, I felt like at home it was very
36:35
Speaker 4: anticlimactic because you're like, okay, game's over. Maybe at the
36:41
Speaker 4: park it was more fun because they got to see it.
36:43
Speaker 4: Maybe it landed with more of a thud because they
36:48
Speaker 4: were in Atlanta and it was a loss for.
36:50
Speaker 7: Them, right?
36:50
Speaker 2: It was kind of like, look at the board, look
36:52
Speaker 2: at the board.
36:53
Speaker 6: Oh, strike three, game's over. All right, go home.
36:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was nice.
36:57
Speaker 6: Anyway, it was a very weird feeling.
36:58
Speaker 4: It reminded me a little bit of the Kawhi Leonard bouncing.
37:03
Speaker 7: Oh, double shot that shot.
37:05
Speaker 4: Everyone had to like wait for five minutes afterwards to
37:08
Speaker 4: find out if he'd won the, won the game or not.
37:11
Speaker 2: I should put out, didn't end the series. It just
37:13
Speaker 2: extended the series.
37:13
Speaker 4: Right.
37:13
Speaker 2: So my, my mistake on that. Um, I'd tell folks
37:16
Speaker 2: about the, uh, rates and barrels podcast, which could be
37:19
Speaker 2: entertaining even if there isn't baseball next year, but certainly
37:21
Speaker 2: through the playoffs as well.
37:24
Speaker 4: Yeah, tonight we're live in the seventh inning of the
37:29
Speaker 4: Chili's Braves game.
37:30
Speaker 6: We've been doing them live.
37:31
Speaker 4: Because the schedules are so packed that if we do
37:33
Speaker 4: them in the morning, it comes out.
37:35
Speaker 7: It's already irrelevant.
37:36
Speaker 4: So we've been doing it at night, but we're doing
37:40
Speaker 4: daily kind of insights into what's going on. One of
37:44
Speaker 4: the real fun ones was before Cam Schlittler, Red Sox
37:47
Speaker 4: face Cam Schlittler, We talked about how last year they
37:51
Speaker 4: faced Cam Schlittler, but they were away.
37:53
Speaker 7: And when you're away, you don't have access to the.
37:55
Speaker 6: Traject machines, these like really nice pitching machines.
37:58
Speaker 4: And so they faced Cam Schlittler without being able to
38:01
Speaker 4: practice against him. And he blew them away in that
38:04
Speaker 4: game using mostly fastballs, 98% fastballs in that game. This year,
38:09
Speaker 4: they were in Tampa, but they were the road team
38:12
Speaker 4: in Tampa because of the weather situation. And so they
38:16
Speaker 4: used Tampa's traject system to play Cam Schlittler all weekend
38:20
Speaker 4: while it was raining. And, you know, Saturday didn't have
38:23
Speaker 4: a game. They basically apparently just practiced against Cam Schlittler
38:27
Speaker 4: that whole day. And then Cam Schlittler comes out and
38:30
Speaker 4: he says, oh, well, you practice against the guy who
38:32
Speaker 4: throws only fastballs. I'm going to throw, you know, 30
38:35
Speaker 4: curveballs today. And it was a masterful performance, and the
38:41
Speaker 4: trajectory didn't matter. But it was an insight into how
38:45
Speaker 4: teams prepare and what the modern baseball mind is thinking about. Like, oh,
38:50
Speaker 4: I need to have my awesome pitching machine or else
38:54
Speaker 4: I'm going to be behind.
38:55
Speaker 2: Well, listen, my friend. Your mind of baseball has been
38:59
Speaker 2: great for us the last couple of years. We hope
39:01
Speaker 2: we can do it again next year, and we hope
39:02
Speaker 2: we do it again next year early when the season
39:04
Speaker 2: starts on time. But we'll probably be checking in on
39:06
Speaker 2: you as things happen during the offseason. But I can't
39:08
Speaker 2: thank you enough. I always learn something. I think our
39:11
Speaker 2: listeners learn something talking to you. The Rates and Barrels
39:13
Speaker 2: podcast is there for folks. Make sure you go check
39:15
Speaker 2: that out if you're a baseball fan. Eno, thanks again
39:17
Speaker 2: for another great season.
39:19
Speaker 7: Yeah, thanks for having me, and I look forward to
39:21
Speaker 7: checking in sometime.
39:22
Speaker 6: Over the winter.
39:23
Speaker 2: We will do that. Ashley has your number, so now
39:25
Speaker 2: that's a promise. So thank you, sir. We'll talk to
39:27
Speaker 2: you soon.
39:27
Speaker 3: Take care.
39:28
Speaker 7: There you go.
39:29
Speaker 2: Tino Saris, we'll take a quick break, come back, a
39:31
Speaker 2: quick Daily Power Play, then the unofficial start of the
39:34
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39:39
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39:40
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Speaker 2: All right, Daily Power Play, just a quick one here.
40:11
Speaker 2: Mike Benton gave you a Daily Power Play from 10
40:13
Speaker 2: to 12 today, so we'll just do a quick one here.
40:14
Speaker 2: Crack it open, season number six tonight in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
40:20
Speaker 2: Six o'clock, drop of the puck, 5.30 pregame with the captain.
40:22
Speaker 2: Benton is outside of my studio right now. Look out there.
40:25
Speaker 2: He is grinding away on his pregame show. He is
40:28
Speaker 2: ready to go. He's been counting this down since the
40:31
Speaker 2: season ended. Apparently the radio pregame host is far more
40:36
Speaker 2: prepared than the television host. pregame host. Are we surprised?
40:39
Speaker 2: Not at all. Not anything against you, just that he
40:42
Speaker 2: would be... No, it's 100%. Okay, maybe a little bit
40:45
Speaker 2: of both. Yeah, the television host, he'll roll into the studio,
40:49
Speaker 2: see what we're doing. Got some video. Allison, Brett, you
40:52
Speaker 2: talk as much as you can. I just did a
40:54
Speaker 2: radio show talking NFL and MLB, so away you go.
40:56
Speaker 2: That's how we work. I mean, that sounds like a
40:58
Speaker 2: great gig to me.
40:58
Speaker 6: Pretty good gig.
41:00
Speaker 2: Pretty good gig. I just lean on Al.
41:02
Speaker 5: Al!
41:03
Speaker 2: Allison, what can you do for me? Brett, what can
41:06
Speaker 2: you do for me?
41:06
Speaker 3: Help me out.
41:06
Speaker 2: I love that for you. I love it for me, too.
41:09
Speaker 2: More Piper, more Allison, more Brett Lessee, and that's what
41:11
Speaker 2: we hear all the time. Interesting note tonight, Kraken have
41:15
Speaker 2: six players still from the 2021 expansion draft. Six of
41:19
Speaker 2: the original members are here still with this team. Joey Decord,
41:23
Speaker 2: Vince Dunn, Jordan Eberle, Cale Fleury, Adam Larson, and Jared McCann.
41:27
Speaker 2: A pretty young team as well. Nine players, 25 or younger,
41:31
Speaker 2: which is one of the younger teams in terms of
41:34
Speaker 2: 25-year-olds in the league. So good mix of some vets
41:36
Speaker 2: and some younger guys. Bobby McMahon, first full season. They're
41:40
Speaker 2: going to play a little bit tougher, rugged style. I
41:42
Speaker 2: can tell you that just based on what I know
41:44
Speaker 2: is about the lineup tonight. It's going to be physical.
41:47
Speaker 2: It won't be physical. And they don't like Calgary. Calgary
41:50
Speaker 2: don't like them.
41:50
Speaker 3: There you go.
41:51
Speaker 2: I like it. Let's get a little roughed up. Let's go.
41:54
Speaker 2: Be hard to play against. That's what you need to
41:56
Speaker 2: do when you don't have a 60-goal guy or a
41:58
Speaker 2: 100-point guy. Again, 5.30 pregame tonight, 6 o'clock or so.
42:04
Speaker 2: Drop of the puck with your guy in mind. The captain,
42:08
Speaker 2: Mike Benton, right here in your home for the Kraken,
42:09
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