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Said, don't know at the job and the joys gay songs, songs,
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songs, songs, songs, songs, kids say songs they so sad,
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sad, said I am, I am, Well, what can we say
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first of all the important things, and that's a huge welcome to UK column
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viewers. Thank you for joining Debbie Evans and myself Bryan Garish in the twenty
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twenty four edition, the first edition of No Smoke Without Fire, And so
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it's great to be back, Debbie, welcome into the studio. Oh,
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thank you so much. Brian. It's lovely to be back. And are
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we going to be lighting a fuse today? I wonder well, from that
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wonderful little introductory video clip of the MATCHI Nighting, which is our new opening
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sequence for No Smoke Without Fire, I think we are going to be lighting
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a fire under a few things. So I can imagine that the opening video
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that we've just played at the coronation is going to ruffle some feathers. There
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are some people I know who are still in the frame of mind that this
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was wonderful to see and the UK had got a new king, not only
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crowned but also anointed, which we'll be coming on too, But of course
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many other people look at that ceremony as do I wondering, I'm what on
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earth I'm really looking at? So for this edition of No Smoke Without Fire,
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and we think it might take a number of episodes to deal with it.
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Debbie and I thought we would discuss King Charles and the coronation. So
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Debbie, I'm going to pass it over to you. What does that video
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clip? What does that do for your memories? Oh? Do you know
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what? Before I saw what I'm seeing now, I loved that piece of
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music, Zaydog the Priest, and it was always it was always a piece
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of music that I held close to my heart for many reasons. And now,
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having looked at the origins, having looked at what I'm seeing now,
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it fills me with chills because I'm not actually sure of what I'm looking at.
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But what i'm looking at I believe is hidden behind all of the ceremonial
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and the costumes. I mean, all the world's are stage. My goodness.
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Even the Princess Royal before the coronation was talking about the coronation and she
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said, well, we are the actors, aren't we. We've got to
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get it right. We're nervous. We're obviously nervous that we're not going to
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get it right because we're being seen by the world. But what is the
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world seeing, It's Debbie, what the world is seeing ritual and triumph,
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triumph, so triumphant. God said, do you remember just before the coronation,
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Unusually it's never happened before, I believe in that we were all asked
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to pledge allegiance to the king at the coronation, and it kicked off a
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bit of a media storm because people were saying, no, you know,
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they weren't willing to pledge allegiance to the king. But clearly that was I
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mean, if you look at the words of the anthem, there may the
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King live forever, God save the King. Rejoice, Rejoice, hallelujah.
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This is a celebration of the anointing and the crowning of the King. So
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for me, the coronation has some dark meaning behind it, which I know
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we're going to explore. We are. Well, I'm just going to kick
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off with a little report in the Jewish Chronicle, which I wasn't aware of
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at the time of the coronation, But when I read this article and I
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encourage other people to read it. The title is why I'm sure that Charles
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will be quote a king for the Jews. And this is written by the
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Prince's biographer, Catherine Mayer, and she's reporting on quote how our next monarch
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could transform jury. So I found this very very interesting article and there's a
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little bit of texts that are reached here. It's hardly surprising, given that
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the Prince of Wales's relationship with a community famously began at birth. She's talking
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the Jewish community. He was circumcised by leading Rabbi Jakob Snowman instead of the
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raw physician. He enthusiastically recounted his close friendship with Lord Sachs, who we
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met on a plane to Rabbin's funeral. At a dinner honoring the former Chief
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Rabbi, he was the first royal to attend the Chief Rabbi's inauguration ceremony,
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that of Ephraim Mirvis, at which he wore a blue velvet kipper with the
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Prince of Wales's feathers badge. And speaking at a Holocaust Memorial Day event last
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week, he described the show as a warning to all of us. I
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was simply completely unaware of these deep links through to the Jewish community, and
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I certainly didn't understand that the Jewish community were looking at the crowning of Prince
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Charles as if maybe I'm taking it too far, because she chooses her words
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very carefully, but almost as though he's going to be a new King of
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the Jews for the Jews. And this was nothing that seemed to appear in
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Western press, although it was an open report here in the Jewish Chronicle.
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What do you make of this, Debbie, Well, you know, when
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I first started deep diving into this whole subject, I was as surprised as
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you, to be honest, Brian, I mean, and then I found
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it actually on the Royal Family and we'll come to that on the Royal Family
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website, and we'll come to that maybe maybe later. But it appears that
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all male heirs in the Royal family are circumcised. And there was I think
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there was a bit of a controversy surrounding the Princess of Wales Diana when Prince
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William was born, because I don't think that she was wanting this to happen
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for Prince William, so there was controversy around that, and I think Prince
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Harry's written about it in his book Spare. But let's not forget too with
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that article. Prince Charles is different from the Prince of Wales for example,
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that we have now in that when Prince Charles Prince Charles, sorry, what
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I should say is that Prince Charles was one of the only Prince of Wales
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is invested. So in nineteen sixty nine he was invested by the Queen and
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this was an open air ceremony at Carnarvon Castle, surrounded by the Welsh flag
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with the dragon. There's a lot we could say about the investiture, but
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that makes Prince Charles the then Prince Charles almost hierarchy higher if you like,
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as this very special prince. So when I read that article in the Jewish
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Chronicle, I wasn't altogether surprised because he has got a very deep and meaningful
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relationship with the Jewish community. In fact, I think he's just actually knighted
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the Chief Rabbi, so there is a very close Jewish connection. Although when
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he was Prince of Wales, I don't believe he actually ever visited Israel,
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but he has visited Israel in the last three or four years, just at
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the end of his princeship, if you like, before he was before he
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became king, and he went to the Holy Land as well, and he's
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planning on another visit to Israel. So there is a very close relationship with
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Israel and also with the Middle East, as we'll come on to see.
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Okay, thank you for that. Well, that's an excellent lead into a
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second paragraph from the Jewish Chronicle article that I've chosen here. He's deeply devout.
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Religion is incredibly important to him. Part of his philosophy is that there's
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a kinship amongst religion, that they're different expressions of the same truth, the
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same God, which is why he doesn't feel that they're at odds with each
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other. Into faith and faith are hugely important to him. It's been mistaken
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for a new age light form of religion. This adds to the fog of
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misunderstanding around him, the concerns that he's not a serious member at the Church
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of England, which of course he is. I when I read this paragraph
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to me was I automatically read it as a defensive paragraph. But I certainly
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agree with the lady who's writing there remires that there is a fog of misunderstanding
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around him, because his adherence to the Church of England doesn't seem to me
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to be an adherence to the Christian faith. And this is a man who,
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in embracing all religion, seems to be embracing all religions in a way
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that the drive for a one world religion. This is the same path I
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think. And I've mentioned this many times over the years, but there's a
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really excellent book by a man called Lee Penn, and he writes in a
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very thick book about the work towards creating a one world religion. And to
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me it seems that Charles, at least you can't call him a Christian.
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He's something different. But I think this little defensive paragraph picked up on the
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fact that there are people questioning what actually his beliefs are. But I'll add
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to that. And you picked up on this that he was anointed with holy
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oil, which had actually come from Jerusalem. I've taken the CNN report here,
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but there are other reports. But here's the little headline, Holy oil
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to anoint King Charles the Third on his coronation has been consecrated in Jerusalem.
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Now it was consecrated by two people from the Orthodox Church based in Jerusalem.
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But nevertheless we get more of the ritual and the formula of the oil has
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been changed because previously apparently it contained something from the stomach lining of a sperm
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whale that's now been removed, so that this was how do we say it
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was an acceptable oil to I would say vegetarians, But maybe my analysis is
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not correct because it's all very foggy, So I'll throw that one back to
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you. And then I think you've got a little bit here on his plans
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to beef up the bow moralist state. Yeah, well a number of points
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there. I mean, I'm sorry if this is going to offend anybody watching.
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I mean, my own mother goes to church every single week and gives
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her collection and presumes that her collection is going to good causes. But you
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know what, Brian, there's money. There's money in faith, and there's
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a lot of money in faith, a lot of money in religion, and
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when you put them all together, that's a big pot of money. So
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why would you just want to be sort of on one side of the fence
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without actually sort of moving around in all circles. And this is what we're
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going to see we're going to see that Prince Charles is very much a multi
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faith monarch. Charles King Charles, King Charles, King Charles, I mean
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for the first time ever. I mean I could go on for hours about
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the symbology during the coronation. I mean, there was just so much of
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it, including the grim Reaper. For anybody that's watching and thinking, Oh,
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I wonder if Debbie's going to mention that there's so much symbology in the
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coronation. But faith is money, and I'm afraid as we're going to find
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out, Faith to King Charles is nature, the environment. And when you
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get people worshiping the planets and worshiping nature through religion, then you can see
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you start to see things that maybe they were trying to keep hidden. And
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that's what we're going to be exploring. I think with this one world religion,
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is it the environment. And of course at the coronation, he had
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all members of faiths. He had five of the major faith present, which
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we never had in previous coronations. So you had the leaders of the Roman
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Catholic Church, the leaders of the Sikh, Hindu, Islam. I think
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that there was invitations to everyone from all faiths, so defender of Church of
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England. No, No, he said he's defender of faith. So that
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includes everybody. And like I say, there's a lot of money to be
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made through faith. Yeah. So if I just throw this one at you,
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do you trust King Charles? No? No? And I've met him,
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you know, I live in Cornwall, which is a duchy. So
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when I mean Prince Charles as he was then, was a prince for many
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years, the longest heir in waiting, and as such he relied on the
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Duchy of Cornwall for the public purse. He relied on the money that came
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from Cornwall to pay for all of his private engagements and all of his public
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engagements. And yet Cornwall is one of the poorest well, it's the second
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poorest area past Lithuania in Europe. Does Cornwall get anything back? Does he
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do anything for Cornwall? Does he do anything for anybody? I've met him?
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Do I trust him? No? No? Well, I've got to
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say I feel the same. I certainly don't trust him. I certainly don't
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think that he's got the best interest in the United Kingdom in his mind.
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His mind is absolutely with the global agenda. I don't trust his position on
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religion, because I think that he's moving us towards something which actually is offensive.
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Ultimately, it's offensive to all the major world religions because it's all about
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the control of mankind. But I do not see how King Charles can be
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a Christian, and personally I don't believe he is a Christian. Now I
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can imagine a few hackles going up, maybe in the audience, but that's
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my position, and if somebody can convince me otherwise, I'm very happy to
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listen to it. But the ritual, what was actually happening in that big
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pantomime, I'd really like to understand more. And I think the research that
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you've done is going to take us deeper at least into what this man is,
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and maybe that will help us get around the fog that his biographer said
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existed around him. So what is the good man going to do to the
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estate in about moral Well, we're going to use public funds, of course,
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your money, and we're going to restore it in a carbon plan with
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the help six hundred and fifty pounds actually, so this is apparently going to
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generate money for the Cairngorms community. It's the green finance model. So the
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Green King strike again. But you know, we look at this sort of
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model. He uses models everywhere. You know, he has model villages,
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model towns. We've got one here in Cornwall. There's Poundbury as well.
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He creates models for people then to say okay, well we're paying too this,
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so we'll have that model rolled out everywhere, and this is just another
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model at our cost. Yeah, and you've mentioned the poverty in Cornwall,
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which is absolutely true. Of course, you know the Duchy estate. He's
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moved on from now as king if I understand that correctly, But in his
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day as Prince Charles, of course, thousands and thousands of hectares of land
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in the Duchy and what was actually coming back for the people of Cornwall.
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By sheer coincidence, as I drove into the up to the column the UK
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column this morning, there was a dutchy timberlaurie delivering to to one of the
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builder's merchants a little bit down the road, and it was the first time
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I'd seen a Duchy timber laurie. But I thought, yeah, that will
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be some of the trees harvested off the land and sold for profit for the
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Duchy. None of it is going to be coming back to the people.
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So is this a caring king? I don't think so. But apparently he's
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good at writing letters. Well, you know this has just been released,
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actually, the news that his letter of thanks to Jimmy Saville is going up
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for auction. His Majesty shows appreciation for gift and seeks guidance over hospital donation
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in handwritten correspondence with the disgraced DJ. I mean, you know, talk
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about in your face, and we know all about his spider letters. He
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was very good when he was Prince of Wales at writing letters. And I
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think the question goes is who would want to ever buy that letter? Who
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would even want to bid for it? To be honest, really, no,
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it should go on the fire. In fact, the match at the
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beginning of this program would deal with it very well. Yes, it would
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one hundred. I can't think of anybody. I mean, it sends me
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chills. You know, who would want that? Who would want it?
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Yeah? It's dark, isn't it. The mere fact that this transaction should
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happen is very dark. But if we delve in to get a bit of
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an understanding of King Charles, we've got to we've got to go back and
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look at family connections and family members, haven't we Yeah, let's go back
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to the beginning. And the apple never fast falls far from the tree,
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does it. So let's take a memory back to I think this is nineteen
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seventy to Prince as he was then Prince Charles, his father, the Duke
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of Edinburgh, Prince Philip. I think we might have a little bit of
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video to remind people of a conference that Prince Philip was giving where he took
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his son, the then Prince Charles for the very first time to listen to
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what he was saying. Totally useless for a lot of well meaning people to
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wring their hands in conference and to point out the dangers of pollution or destruction
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of the countryside if no one is willing or capable of taking any action.
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Well, there we are. That's pretty telling, isn't it. So what
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do we have? We have a child who was groomed into this way of
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thinking. Mm hmm. Yeah. I was going to say exactly that same
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word, actually, Brian, I'd written it down because as we're talking,
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and I mean that the beauty about no smokes is that we chat and things
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come up in conversation and as we were watching that, I wrote down the
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word groomed because clearly that's where the grooming really started with a vengeance. And
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you know, you look back at the Duke of Edinburgh and people are going
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to remember what we're going to be saying next, which was something that Prince
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Philip said about reincarnating as a deadly virus to solve overpopulation. So you know,
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this agenda was in your face. And if his father had that kind
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of opinion and that kind of attitude, then you can see who he was
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groomed by. But I mean, there's nothing like seeing is believing, is
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there? So let's remind ourselves of then Duke of Eda, the late Duke
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of Edinburgh and what he actually did. Say. What do you see as
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the biggest challenges in conservation the growing human population? There? Where we are
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there's something else? And do you have views about what should be done about
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that? Contracts will? It could be on a spectrum from masterilization to to
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you know, greater availability of contraception. I don't know. I don't know
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what your views are as to what can be done about it. Well,
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I think I think you might be described as a voluntary family limitation. I
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just say, I just say, wow. When you look at that clip
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and you're looking at the man and you're looking at how he's delivering, he
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doesn't want to say what's really in his head. But from where we are,
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that's where his opening that's where his opening statement. From where we are,
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well exactly. But but the we is the special class. We are
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looking at these horrible peasants and we need to do something. Brian I had
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to say that that goes back to to the wef you know, you will
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own enough saying you not we. This is all about their little club class
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and making the planet beautiful for them and doing stuff and not having millions of
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people running around creating waste and pollution. This is all about them, their
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elite club. Yeah. So when we as the mere hoi POLLOI try and
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get our minds inside their minds. It's very difficult because these people clearly regard
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themselves as very special, and they don't seem to have any acknowledgment that they
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are what's the word. You know, They've got a huge golden spoon in
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their mouths and they have a life of immense wealth on the back of the
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rest of the population. I just the more I see it, the more
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incredible I think this system is. But to me, do these members of
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the royal family at least have the best interest of mankind? Is that what
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they're really doing? The best interests of mankind? In mind? No,
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I don't. He said special. They're certainly special, but for all the
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wrong reasons. Yeah, but they're going to save the world. Oh yeah,
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yes. And you know, going back to the Duke of Edinburgh,
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you know, let's see where this actually did start, because it did you
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know, from the research, I've only gone back as far as the Duke
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of Edinburgh, but it's quite significant. And this all started with the World
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Wildlife Fund, remember the panda on the front. And he was very very
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pro environment and wildlife preservation and conservation. And this is you're going to see
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really leads on to the agenda that we see today because he was a patron
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of the WWF and he served as an advocate. He was a champion for
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the environment. And then one thing led to another, So the WWF,
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the World Wildlife Fund, led to the Duke of Edinburgh's conservation scheme. And
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when you go further into it and you see what he did for the Duke
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of Edinburgh's young people. That was all about outward bound and nature and conservation
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and rewarding young people. But I think there was a much more sinister agenda.
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I think with how we see these people operate, a lot of it
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is sort of smoke and mirrors. So to say that everything that they have
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done is bad, I don't agree with that at all. And I know
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from personal experiences of family where my own children dealt with the Duke of Edinburgh
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a wards and they got out doing some pretty lengthy walks, some quite tough
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walking, and certainly they benefited from it and other youngsters at their schools,
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and of course it's a national event that a lot of young people get an
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awful lot out of it. So I just wanted to say that because I
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don't believe it's the case that everything that they've done has been part of the
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of the agenda to go where we're going, to show they're going. But
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did they do the good things out of true what's the word, I've forgotten
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the word? Do they do it out of you know, true love for
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their nation and the wider public of UK or did they do it in order
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to balance out the other things. This is where it's tricky. Well,
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I mean, I take your point. I mean I just go back to
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there was a lot of money involved in the Duke of Edinburgh's scheme. It
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was a huge, multimillion pounds operation, and yes, I agree. You
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know, many many youngsters got huge benefits from it and use the Duke of
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Edinburgh's award to move further on with their careers. Which is all good,
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it's all good, But there was a darker side. And there's a darker
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side that lurks underneath. And I think that's what I can see now in
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that charities. When does a charity become a charity? When does it become
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a quango? Where is that fine line between charitable giving and the good good
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coming from it? And then a lot of people making a lot of money
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and you know, a lot of money has been made on the back of
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all of these big charities, whereas little grassroots charities you know that do just
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as good work get no recognition, no funding, because they get drowned out
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by the bigger charities with royal patronage. But I think the question is is
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what are the royal patrons getting out of this? Because we see as the
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public them doing deeds and oh, yes, they're patron for this and that's
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great for the charity, but what are they getting out of it? And
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I think that's the other side that I'm starting to see now. Yeah,
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okay, so I distracted you a bit there, Sorry about that. So
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you were heading down the route to what they've been getting up getting up to
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and Saint George's House is an important place. Why did you pick up on
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this? The thing is, the Duke of Edinburgh made this connection, the
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connection that we're seeing now in twenty twenty four. This science and religion,
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this all came about with him in nineteen sixty five and then he went into
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cahoots with the Dean of Windsor, the Right Reverend Robin Woods, and founded
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Saint George's House in Windsor. And that's I mean, it's still existing today
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and it's for the laity and members of faith to go and chill out and
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do alk and discuss. But actually, when you look at Saint George's House
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today you can see that yes, it is obviously used for clergy as well,
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but it's governed by the representative knights of the Most Noble Order of the
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Garter headed by the Princess Royal and His Grace, the Duke of Abercorn,
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so you know, and of course when you think of the knights, you
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think Lord Blair, you know, and it starts to get well, who
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is actually meeting at Saint George's House. When you look at the other members
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of Saint George's House, there's some very very big names there, Baroness's and
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Dame Caroline Caroline Spellman. You can see their Lord William Waldergrave. You know,
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this is for the elite. This is basically a club to discuss for
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the elite. And I just started to delve further into the Royal Family website
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and you could see this this fusion, because Mike Robinson always uses the word
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fusion, this fusion between environments and science and faith and religion. So when
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you jump on from this and you can get all of this information on the
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Royal Family website, I mean, this is where I've been, the Royal
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Family website, and here you can see that if you jump on. In
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nineteen eighty six, to celebrate the twenty fifth anniversary of the Worldwide Fund for
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Nature, there was going to be this conference where it was the Duke of
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Edinburgh's idea to go to a CC and host a meeting with five main religious
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communities to discuss about the environment and what they were going to do for the
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future of the earth, etc. And as a result of that meeting,
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an organization was formed and it was called ARC. Don't we hear a lot
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of ARC education and ARC organizations, but this was the Alliance of Religions and
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Conservation. And although this is closed now and we'll look and I promise we'll
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come onto what it's been replaced with, because it has been replaced. But
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this was the first organization really to link all faiths together, and it was
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supported by a load of organizations, including the World Bank, including WWF International.
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I mean, you can see the list there. They were very very
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well supported. But that's the way that this all began. But the organization
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of ARC was always under the control, if you like, of the Duke
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of Edinburgh, Prince Philip, and they had a whole trustee board. You
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can see some very prestigious names there, and ARC carried on until fairly recently.
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It closed actually after twenty three years because they decided that actually we need
34:53
to do more, we need to expand more. And what's interesting about that
34:59
slide there that you can see Prince Philip what he says on creation. If
35:02
you believe in God, then you should feel a responsibility to care for His
35:07
creation. But, like I say, ARC closed and they decided to replace
35:15
it with this huge organization in this very glossy website called Faith invest which basically
35:24
brings all the faith groups together to talk about what they're going to invest.
35:30
I mean, I don't know if you want to butt in there, Brian,
35:32
because we're going quite fast and we can see the growth of this science,
35:37
environment, religion agenda and the formation of ARC was where it all started.
35:45
I don't know if you want to jump in and add anything. Well,
35:46
all I wanted to really say is how fascinating I found this when you
35:54
started the trail on this, when we got into it and we started to
35:58
discuss it together, it was utterly fascinating because it just takes you in deeper
36:02
and deeper and deeper. Who are these people? Where does their power come
36:08
from? What are they trying to do? So you know, all the
36:13
language were often the language is very soft. You know, we're trying to
36:15
protect God's creation, but what are they actually talking about they're not talking about
36:22
loving your God and loving one another, which would be the Christian message.
36:30
Is this is almost coming down to mother Earth approach. And then you say,
36:36
so are they part of the Christian foundation in UK or are they something
36:43
different? And then the other bit on your list that you just showed on
36:45
screen, of course, is the World Bank is there now in most of
36:51
these projects. If you don't see it at the first layer, the moment
36:54
you delve into it a bit and go into the second layer, you're absolutely
37:00
going to be seeing all of the world banking system or elements of the world
37:05
banking system supporting these projects. And then I say to myself very cynically,
37:10
and of course we know how the banks have people's well being at the forefront
37:17
of their business activity. I mean, to me, it's madness to suggest
37:22
that the Bank of England is looking after is looking out to protect the people
37:28
in UK or preserve the planet. It's a complete nonsense because their whole business
37:35
is about destruction, destruction of people, families, businesses. Even with Mark
37:40
Carney, who again might Robinson pointed out several times on UK column News Mark
37:46
Carney when he was their boss of the Bank of England, saying that if
37:52
businesses didn't adopt hour he was talking about the bank's green initiatives, they would
38:00
be punished, they would be put out of business. So that's the sort
38:05
of mindset of the big money, billions of pounds that's coming in behind the
38:09
sorts of projects you're talking about. This is a poisonous mix. Yeah,
38:15
well it's money again. You see, I've rubbed my fingers there. It
38:20
all comes down to money at the end of the day. And let's not
38:23
forget we are God's creation, right, so of course, of course we
38:30
should be protected. But we're not being protected. These organizations aren't protecting us.
38:37
We're just nobody. So when you deep, I mean you mentioned banks.
38:42
So let's let's have a look at the bank because on ARC's website,
38:45
because there is still an archived ARC website and you can see there that if
38:52
you look down the bottom immediately governments, which is a situation we have now
38:57
governments acting with NGO Again ngngos mentioned they're the public and faiths. And then
39:05
who are the partners the World Bank, MOTT Foundation, the Norwegian Government Valley
39:10
Foundation wwf U said, UNISEF and others. And as we're going to come
39:16
on in a minute to see we're going to find City Bank involved in it
39:22
as well. So when you go to look at the origins, they've got
39:24
a nice little calendar of the kind of how ARC was moving forward and how
39:31
it became faith invest And there you can see in two thousand and one ARC
39:37
in partnership with City Group, so immediately the banks are involved. And then
39:43
in two thousand and seven they were asked to publish the actless the Atlas of
39:49
Religions, and then the UN, the United Nations got involved and then boom
39:53
you just a mention of sustainable development goals, just adding there that the Atlas
39:59
of Religions, which includes the first attempt to chart the faith investments worldwide.
40:07
So they weren't interested in the faiths and the messages of those face they were
40:13
in trusted in where their investments were. Oh yeah, and my brain says,
40:19
you want to know where their investments are because if you know where their
40:22
investments are, you can control those faith via their investments. Seeing you,
40:31
if you go back to that slide, Brian, if you go back to
40:35
that previous slide of the origins, you'll see halfway down there, faith in
40:40
finance in twenty sixteen. So this is very much of financial arrangements. So
40:47
then ARC decided that they would have this conference in Zug and they would discuss
40:54
you know, this finance thing is getting it's a big deal. There's a
40:58
lot of money involved, so how can we move forward? Because obviously ARC
41:01
couldn't move forward. And that's where Faith invest came into being. And this
41:07
is a whole movement to invest billions. I mean we're talking billions of dollars.
41:14
And I know you've got a lot to say about you know what the
41:15
Church of England. Well, I smiled. I smiled, Debbie when I
41:21
see this, because it says, for example, the Church of England's investment
41:24
fund alone manages funds in excess of nine billion. But the UK Column a
41:31
couple of years ago now was lifting the lid on the fact that the Church
41:36
of England, well Be himself was working with global investors on a green fund,
41:45
green environmental fund and initiative in which they were talking about trillions of dollars
41:52
and it was trillions of pounds that the Church of England was involved with in
41:59
relation to that initiative. And we made a very big thing about the fact
42:05
that at the moment, if you talk to people in local parishes, the
42:10
big thing that they're all talking about is the buildings are all falling down and
42:15
the roofs are leaking. The roots of the churches are leaking. But when
42:19
they go to the main, you know, the main heart, the head
42:23
of the Church of England, the Anglican Church, they're told there's no money
42:28
and they've got to raise it in the parishes. But actually, behind the
42:32
scenes, these hypocrites in the Anglican Church are dealing in billions of pounds and
42:38
trillions of pounds. Even with Wellby being photographed hobnobbing with the world's international bankers,
42:46
including Christina guard I can still see the photo in my head because they've
42:52
all got their glass of Champagne. This is where Archbishop Wellby is, and
42:58
of course he is the man running who was running the crowning ceremony for Charles
43:06
the Third. So to me, anybody that suggests this is to do with
43:10
Christianity is simply unaware of what the real Christian message is. I mean,
43:19
he's a banker, he was a banker well be. And you know,
43:22
interestingly we haven't got a slide. But maybe in our no smoke too,
43:25
because we're never going to get through all of the evidence that I found in
43:30
one hit. But we down in Truro Cathedral recently there was an art installation
43:37
of Earth, so we were all having well I wasn't, but people were
43:42
being asked to go and worship Earth. You know, you can see where
43:45
this is coming the whole environment agenda. But let's go back to Faith Invest
43:52
and see who's behind Faith Invest and who's actually on the board. So the
43:58
chief executive is Launa Gold. Now if you look at her, you can
44:01
see that she's overseen the development Agency of the Catholic Church at senior level Intra
44:08
Care, and she's also the chair of the I can never say this properly,
44:14
Bryan lordato C movement. Yeah, so she was a member of the
44:21
I'll read it for you. She was a member of the Vatican's COVID Commission
44:25
Economics task Force that's based in Ireland. So that's an interesting little mix,
44:32
isn't it. Just and then you've got Martin Palmer, who of course was
44:37
involved with ARC, so they're bringing ARC into Faith invest, but he was
44:44
also working with Prince Philip and he's part of BBC he has been a contributor
44:50
to the BBC, he's been a lay preacher for the Church of England.
44:53
You know, when you look at the people that are actually involved. I'm
44:58
sorry I clipped off his name. I do apologize, but you have a
45:01
gentleman. They're working for Rockefeller Capital Management, City Group again, the Bank.
45:07
You've got Catherine Arnold, who was British Ambassador to Mongolia. So you've
45:12
got a whole selection of people running this organization Ireland Stop Climate Chaos, Irish
45:20
jesuits and eco jesuits. Now we're going to come onto the eco movement in
45:23
a minute, but Lumina all sorts of people involved, including Obama administration and
45:31
this events manager Piper Arnold. I mean, she's been involved in multi faith
45:37
environment groups and she's been working with the United Nations. The Norwegian government figures
45:43
very highly in this and does in quite a few quite a few of the
45:47
rabbit holes I've been down. And also, of course they're Buckingham Palace.
45:52
So we've got this huge organization which are literally bringing in millions and let's face
46:01
it, Prince Charles, King Charles wants trillions of pounds for it. Sustainable
46:06
goals, so We've got these people running this organization, but who are they
46:09
partnered with? And when you see who they're partnered with and who they're trading
46:14
with, you know, I mean, I'll let you read some of the
46:16
names there, Brian, because it's just like jobsmacking, to be honest.
46:20
Well, we've got the UN Environment, We've got the World Wildlife Fund International,
46:25
the Vaticans COVID Commission, the Vatican's Diicastri for Promoting Integral Human Development.
46:32
My goodness, I don't know what that is, but it doesn't sound nice.
46:36
We've got the World's Evangelical Alliance, the World Bank's Climate Investment Funds,
46:42
China Twist Association, Religions for Police for Peace, the Interfaith Center for Corporate
46:49
Responsibility, the UN Multi Faced Task Force, the United Religions Initiative. Now
46:55
that one immediately sticks out to me because Lee Penn mentions that many times in
47:01
his book on the One World Religion Into Faith Power and like Green Faith,
47:07
Eco Seek and many more. I look at the titles, and you know,
47:14
pick a few who at the moment is actually working in the world to
47:17
put an end to the violence in Ukraine or the slaughter in Gaza. Is
47:23
Britain. Is UK standing up for that? No, US, no,
47:29
no, we're pumping in the munitions. And yet we are to believe that
47:32
when we see our governments involved in these sorts of addition initiatives with the Royalty,
47:39
that it's all got the best interests in mankind at heart. I mean,
47:44
I just do. I don't see it. I don't see it.
47:49
I mean, all of this, Brian is simply well, it's remarkable.
47:54
The next few slides have got a lot of information on them, so I
47:59
think it's probly best that we just mention a couple of points and ask people
48:04
to freeze the screen and read in detail some of the things that you're going
48:07
to see in the next few slides, because they are quite crowded, but
48:12
just to give it a little bit of context there. So it says that
48:15
Faith group have billions of dollars invested on the global stock markets. Gives you
48:21
an idea of amounts. So we're looking at the Church of England Church Commissioner's
48:25
nine point two billion, the Church pension three billion, United Methodist Church in
48:30
the US twenty eight billion, Vatican Bank five billion euros of managed assets,
48:38
and it says that the major faiths have had a long tradition of what they
48:43
will not invest in based upon core values Islam and Dioism. But of course
48:50
all of this environment agenda is something that everybody's very happy to buy into.
48:57
So I mean, we'll just flip through these next few and you might want
49:00
to just highlight a few points as well. I haven't highlighted any particularly because
49:06
they're all just as important. But really this is just tie in the sustainable
49:10
goals. Yeah, that one just jumped off the screen of me. It's
49:15
the second one down, And what a wonderful statement. This is the values
49:19
espoused by most faith groups are aligned with the aims of most of the sustainable
49:27
development goals. This is a twisting of what truth is that's beyond belief.
49:32
So what faith is about is actually, oh, by some coincidence, is
49:38
the same as the sustainable development goals. And they put here eg end poverty
49:45
and hunger, care for the sick, protect the earth. But of course,
49:50
if we look into the sustainable development goals, the one things they don't
49:52
care about a mankind, it's obvious choose another one. So it says engaging
50:00
faith leaders and faith fund managers on faith consistent investing, and that will increase
50:07
the proportion of funds allocated to values based investments. I'll read that again because
50:13
it's so interesting. Engaging faith leaders and faith fund managers on faith consistent investing
50:21
will increase the proportion of funds allocated to values based investments. So you're going
50:28
to take money which is held by the faith and you're going to ship it
50:32
across to what they call values based investments. And the values based investments that
50:37
I see around me all the time are to do with everything like climate change,
50:44
net zero, agender twenty thirty, sustainable development goals. Those they constantly
50:52
use the mask that their value is based. Well, I'll tell you what.
50:58
Let's look at the evidence. This is lucky dip. So let's look
51:01
at the evidence, Brian, and you put your hand in the lucky dip
51:05
and you pull out some of those points because they're all extremely important within the
51:10
financial world. The potential of the faiths has long been understood by organization such
51:15
as the Interfaith Center on Corporate Responsibility ICCR in New York, which pioneered social
51:24
stakeholder engagements by the faiths. So this is drawing the faiths into the control
51:30
mechanisms social stakeholders. In February twenty twenty, the Church of England's Pension Board
51:37
launched the foot Seed TPI Climate Transition Index, which tracks whether companies aligned to
51:44
two DC or below two DC net zero, transferring a mere six hundred million
51:51
of its assets. So we can't fix the rooms, we can't feed the
51:54
poor in the parishes, but we've got six hundred million to go onto a
52:00
foot Sea Transition Index. It's brilliant. It's brilliant. DeBie. Oh yeah,
52:07
no, no, it really is. And okay, so let's go
52:09
on and look at the enablers, Brian. How many faith traditions have we
52:14
got involved in this? It's a big operation. Yeah, well you mentioned
52:19
Faith in invest and it's meeting in Zook, Switzerland in twenty seventeen. They
52:24
go on say, strong relationships with faith groups, extensive knowledge capital about faiths,
52:30
and the long history of engaging faith via our parent organization, Alliance of
52:36
Religions and Conservations makes us well placed to lead the initiative. And they've got
52:40
investment priorities for dozens of traditions from eight of the world's major faiths, Buddhism,
52:49
Christianity, Deoism, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Sikhism, Shintoism and
52:54
help to fuel an unprecedented interest. Then there's a growth in or fuel divestment,
53:01
and studies have shown increased interest in ESG investing. So this is all
53:08
corporate financial speak with a sort of source of faith over the top of it
53:16
to make it look palatable to people. Yeah, but now it gets really
53:22
interesting because when you look a little bit deeper into faith invest you can see
53:28
that there are international nonprofit organization right. But the interesting bit comes there the
53:35
accounting for sustainability, and this is where the linkage starts to join up even
53:42
stronger again because we're not going to have time in this snow smoke to talk
53:47
about accounting, but the accounting for sustainability that was established by King Charles is
53:57
extremely important. So bear that in because on the next no smoke we'll come
54:01
to talk about more about the King's involvement with accountants and auditing and auditing the
54:09
world pretty much. So stay tuned for the second one. We've got a
54:14
lot more to go through. So let's just go back to a slide on
54:19
faith invests progress, because I found this quite staggering. This one gives you
54:25
some figures, and I'll let you again put your hand into the lucky dip
54:30
and see what you find. Should I choose another? Should I choose another
54:34
one out of that? Yeah, I have to go to the sums of
54:37
money they're talking about. Although I just add that in two thousand and nine,
54:42
speaking at arcs Windsor celebration was UN Secretary General Banki Moon who said that
54:47
faith groups can prise the third largest category of investors. It's fascinating, isn't
54:53
it. They're all helping mankind. But there's tons of money on the side.
54:58
As you say. Study of the Economic Value of religion to US society
55:02
estimated faced annual revenues of three hundred and seventy eight billion US dollars annually,
55:10
and they say that's more than those of tech giants Apple and Microsoft combined.
55:15
And then if we go over to the right hand side of the page and
55:19
we just have a look, it's mentioned that twenty eight billion US dollar figure
55:24
for the United Methodist Church in the States. The church pension fund for the
55:30
US Episcopal Capaul Church is eighteen point four billion. Church of England they say
55:37
ten billion, and a pension fund of three billion. Methodist Church a billion.
55:43
In Europe, the Vatican Bank manages five point two billion. That to
55:49
me seems very very very low, but maybe we can come on to that
55:52
another time. In the United States, reports say that the Church of the
55:57
Latter day Saints has an investment fund of one hundred billion. So these are
56:01
vast sums of money that I'll circulate. So go back a little bit,
56:06
Brian, because there's one that you miss. Twenty twenty two, it says
56:08
that the Islamic Finance Group to four trillion US dollars in twenty twenty one and
56:15
is expected to reach five point nine trillion in twenty twenty six, according to
56:21
a twenty twenty two study. And that doesn't surprise me at all, bearing
56:25
in mind the you know, the area of the world encompass by Islam,
56:34
so but huge amounts of money, and what they want to do. They
56:37
want to draw all this together so that they can get their sticky hands on
56:42
it. Yeah, they absolutely do. And at the end of the day,
56:47
who are the royal family? What is their role? And you know,
56:52
I went to the Royal Family website and I know that we're probably running
56:57
out of time a little bit, so we'll maybe just ski through these next
57:00
few slides just to tie it all up. Because the Royal Family, apparently
57:06
according to the Royal Family website, they now rededicate their lives to serving the
57:12
people of the United Kingdom, the realms and the Commonwealth. So that was
57:19
the King's coronation message. But luckily for us on the Royal Family website they've
57:23
got a section for pretty much everything. So I went to look and see
57:27
his role in the Church of England. So you might like to read a
57:30
little bit of this out because this is who he's meant to be the head
57:34
of the Church of England. Well, can I just have a little moan
57:37
before I do that for you, Devin. That is when we see that
57:40
picture of them standing there in their robes, they're not serving the people of
57:45
the United Kingdom. They are absolutely serving their own interests. And our dialogue
57:53
is exposing what's going on here. These people are not getting up in the
57:58
morning and saying, my, what can we do to help people in Cornwall
58:01
who are having a tough time, or what are we going to do up
58:05
in the Midlands. They are living in their palaces, they're improving their palaces
58:09
with an extra six hundred and fifty pounds, which you just brought to our
58:15
attention over upgrades, environmental upgrades to bow moral and then they have the audacity
58:21
to stand there, weighted down by their gold braid, telling us they're serving
58:25
us. I mean, the hypocrisy is mind boggling to me. You pushed
58:32
back of me, Debbie, But I've got to the point where I look
58:36
at these people and I think, my goodness, and there were people fawning
58:40
over the fact that Charles was being was being crowned and anointed with the Holy
58:46
oil. I just watched that and I thought, this is something very dark
58:53
I'm watching, and their hypocrisy echoes that I'm a bit motivated on this subjects
59:00
as you can see. Well, I mean, you know, we're an
59:02
hour in and I have to say to anybody that's watching our viewers and listeners,
59:08
we are at the moment, we're only just scraping the tip of the
59:12
iceberg. There's far more to come in this series of No Smoke. I
59:15
mean, honestly, it gets deeper and deeper. But I mean, let's
59:20
take ourselves back to the fact that the king is the King of the he's
59:24
head of the Church of England. That's who he is professing to be,
59:29
and that's what the Royal Family website says. So I mean you can see
59:34
there, Brian, what it says. They're on the screen. Well,
59:36
I'll read a bit. It says the Sovereign holds the title Defender of the
59:39
Faith and Supreme Governor of the Church of England. These titles date back to
59:45
the reign of King Henry the Eighth, who was initially granted the title Defender
59:49
of the Faith in fifteen twenty one by Pope Leo tenth. When Henry the
59:54
Eighth renounced the spiritual authority of the papacy in fifteen thirty four years Programm claimed
1:00:00
Supreme Head on Earth of the Church of England. This was repealed by Queen
1:00:05
Mary the First but reinstated during the reign of Queen Elizabeth, who was proclaimed
1:00:10
Supreme Governor at the Church of England. Well, some interesting history there,
1:00:15
which is a whole other level. But of course, what has Charles not
1:00:21
protected the faith? He's absolutely not protected that. So each stage we go
1:00:28
into this we just get more and more hypocrisy and interesting. There was the
1:00:34
wordage as well, Supreme Head of Earth, yes, Earth, which was
1:00:39
interesting, but I mean you know, having being head of the Church of
1:00:43
England obviously doesn't reap the king in enough money, because if you go to
1:00:47
the Church of England website they do put up there, they've got ten point
1:00:53
three billion one point two billion around it. You can see the figures there.
1:00:59
But obviously that's not enough for the king. So that's what he's meant
1:01:04
to be head of. And yet if we stay on the Royal Family website,
1:01:08
we can see that they've got very helpfully lots of information about the king
1:01:14
and other faiths. So you can see there on the screen. You know,
1:01:20
this is what is said. I've always thought of Britain as a community
1:01:22
of communities. That has led me to understand that the sovereign has an additional
1:01:27
duty, less formally recognized, but to be no less diligently discharged. It
1:01:32
is the duty to protect the diversity of our country, including by protecting the
1:01:37
space for faith itself. And it's practiced through the religions, cultures, traditions
1:01:44
and beliefs to which our hearts and minds direct us as individuals. Yeah,
1:01:50
I mean, how much more obvious does it have to be? Yeah,
1:01:52
So I'm just going to stress this point because we still have a pretty big
1:01:59
order of people who consider themselves Christians. But we've only got to look at
1:02:05
what they are saying and what's coming out of their mouths or what's printed,
1:02:08
and it's quite clear that the Christian religion is not top of the agenda for
1:02:14
the royal family. There's something completely different happening. And when we start to
1:02:19
look the massive concern for I'm deliberately going to use the term mother Earth.
1:02:29
This is not about love for mankind. We're witnessing something different here. But
1:02:35
there are many Christian people out there are very squeamish about getting into some of
1:02:38
these areas, and I think that they've really got to toughen up and start
1:02:42
to ask what we're dealing with here. I agree. Look, my mum
1:02:47
is eighty six. She's a holy duster at her church. She publishes the
1:02:52
brass and things. She's struggling and I get that. You know, she's
1:02:58
gone to church with her life sheet. She's calls herself. She says she
1:03:01
has a simple faith. She doesn't want to hear all of this. I
1:03:06
was brought up. I went to church as a child, I went to
1:03:10
Sunday School. I was a brownie. I was a guide. I was
1:03:13
brought up in the Church of England. It's hard for me to swallow as
1:03:17
well, and I get that it can be it's not palatable for many people.
1:03:22
But I think when you're putting your collection in the bowl when you go
1:03:27
to church, where is that money going to? And why are we doing
1:03:30
so much fundraising to keep our churches open when actually now many communities have only
1:03:36
got one priest for six or seven churches. They no longer have a priest
1:03:40
per church, if you like, they have a whole diocese. So what
1:03:45
are the people that are going to these churches getting? What are they paying
1:03:51
for? Is my question and it is hard, and I agree it is
1:03:53
hard. But when you go on to look at what Charles is doing,
1:03:58
you know, and you can see there's another there's another entry on the Royal
1:04:01
Family website the King Marks into Faith Week with Faith Leaders at Lambeth Palace Library.
1:04:10
So there's so many different leadings. And of course you mentioned right at
1:04:14
the beginning, Brian, the Royal Families association with circumcision, and I've just
1:04:20
put a slide up with an article there that just completely backs up all that
1:04:26
you've said and gives a little bit of history there. So that's on the
1:04:30
Jewish faith. But if you go back to the Royal Family website you can
1:04:33
see. Well, I'll let you take us to the next slide, Brian.
1:04:38
So this was a speech by His Royal Highness, Prince of Wales titled
1:04:42
Islam at the West at the Oxford Center for Islamic Studies. I believe wholeheartedly
1:04:46
that the links between these two worlds matter more today than ever before, because
1:04:51
the degree of misunderstanding between the Islamic and Western worlds remains dangerously high, and
1:04:58
because the need for the two to live and work work together in our increasingly
1:05:00
independent world has never been greater. I find this a very important statement because
1:05:11
basically, in talking about Christianity, that should not mean to anybody being hostile
1:05:19
to people from other faiths. The point I'm certainly making, so let me
1:05:26
nail some colors to the mass. The point I'm making is you cannot have
1:05:30
a king who says he is there basically to preserve the faith of the country,
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which is Christianity by our constitutional setup and by our belief structure, and
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then play a completely different game hidden in plain sight. It's the hypocrisy which
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gets me. And then the other thing is look at what the king's position
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is at the moment, which is be he has absolutely supported the slaughter in
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the Middle East. What happened with the attacks on Israel were bad. People
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died, there's no question of it. Children died, families died. But
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we're now in today whatever it is of the response from Israel, and we're
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up to eleven and a half thousand children killed, murdered because they couldn't run,
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there was nowhere for them to go. But is child's supporting Islam in
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that is he looking after the people in Gaza. No, he's simply looking
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after Israel. So again what we come to is just unbelievable hypocrisy by this
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man and that is so dangerous because it means that he's double dealing. You
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don't know what is really in his mind where he's really trying to go for.
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And people really need to wake up for this because, as you say,
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we've only scratched the surface about what this man has been up to,
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using his immense status and huge reserves of money to create which is all about
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a global agenda. It's nothing about his well is realm the world for me,
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Charles is the great pretender. He's been an heir in waiting for a
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very long time because he's been groomed for a very long time. The queen
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has been taking what the Queen Elizabeth was taking the attention while Charles was being
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groomed for so many years and building this empire. Just to give people a
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flavor of what religion seems to have been come because we're into the eco movement
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now, so here we can see what is being done, in my opinion,
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what it's being done to attack religion. So we've got Eco Islam IFWS,
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I don't know what that stands for. What we're talking about Eco Islam
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protecting our planet for future generations. If you're a member of the Islamic faith
1:08:00
and you're listening into this product, what are we warning about? An attack
1:08:04
on Islam, attack on Christianity, the faiths while being attacked in order to
1:08:10
bring in this false global agenda of sustainability and control. We've got the next
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one, which is eco Jesuit. So not even the Jesuits are immune to
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this one. And this is your Lordato Sea action platform, the Eco Jesuit
1:08:32
network. That doesn't fill me with great confidence, and I think we've got
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another one here, four fifty Eco and ritz are Eco Seek planting two hundred
1:08:43
and fifty trees I think in the Sacred City. And Eco Seek has been
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serving Mother Earth, it says. So this is absolutely nothing to do with
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core religions. It can't be anything to do with Christianity. So something else
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is coming, and we've got Eco Darma Network, the network of Buddhist organizations.
1:09:06
But again the focus is on the ecosystem of the environment. Green Christian,
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Ordinary Christians, extraordinary times. Green Christian exists to share green insights with
1:09:19
Christians and offer Christians insights to the wider green movement. We walk alongside those
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of faith, and no faith join us. No, this is no faith,
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Debbie. Let's end on this point. This is nothing to do with
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faith. This is to do with a perversion of proper spiritual belief system,
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religious beliefs, and we're being led into something much darker. At that point,
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shall we just bring in the little video of the Gold Sovereign and then
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we'll close. Let's have a look at this little clip. It's now been
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five hundred days since the acces of our new monarch, King Charles the Third,
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and to mark this milestone. A new gold one eight sovereign coins been
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minted for the first time ever. This sovereign coin depicts the monarch alongside the
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dragon in place of Saint George, with an historic legend that links to the
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coinage of both Queen Victoria and Queen Elizabeth. By calling now on eight hundred
1:10:18
and six double five six y two one five, well there we are.
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We're not advertising gold coins. He said that the King Charles the Third was
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alongside the dragon. I looked to that coin and I thought he's riding the
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dragon. So we've got the woman on the beast, the woman riding the
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it's gone out of my head for the European Nets. Yeah, the Harlot
1:10:46
riding riding the bull. Thank got there in the end for the European Union.
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And here we've got the new king. He's replaced Saint George. That
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shows some arrogance to start off with. Who does I did that he was
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going to replace Saint George and the dragon. So he's replacement George. But
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I don't think he's alongside the dragon. I think he's actually riding it.
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The commentator for that advert clip says, towards the end, it rather seems
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as though he's tamed the dragon. Who do you think the dragon is?
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Don't start me with that, because I can see so much symbology in it.
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And I saw that the first thing I saw was riding a dragon.
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This was a dragon with a forked tongue, and there were the initials.
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If people want to go back or go and look her for an image of
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it, there's I don't know who created the coin. Maybe it was somebody
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just coincidentally with the initials JC, but jc's written at the breast of the
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dragon. I think you've noticed a couple of another anomalies on that picture.
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Well, be careful because I didn't have my glasses on. But it looked
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to me that the orb, the glow that he's holding, that King Charles
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is holding in his hand sitting atop of it, is a Christian cross.
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But to my eyes, that cross looks slightly wonky. But I didn't have
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my glasses on, and I'm going to admit my sin, so a lot
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of things, but the orb just the significance of the orb being the Earth,
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and I have to say, I know we're finishing up now, but
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this is just that we're going to go much further. It gets even more
1:12:30
interesting the further on we go. So we really have only just scratched the
1:12:35
top the tip of the iceberg to give people a bit of a flavor of
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where we're going. But there's so much more for people to see and to
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go and research themselves. Because we always say, don't we Brian and anything.
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You know, we're just giving out signposts for people to do their own
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research, to come to their own pinions, to form their own beliefs.
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So we're not saying that, you know, you have to think this or
1:13:00
do this. We're just throwing out some signposts for everyone to go and look
1:13:03
a little bit further. Yeah. Great, And I'll just add to that
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that if you're watching us from UK, you need to pay attention because this
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man is living amongst us. But if you're if you're overseas and you're another
1:13:17
religion, you need to pay attention because he's got his eye I think on
1:13:24
the whole of the lands of the world. This man is not playing about
1:13:27
being king of England. He's talking about being king of the earth. And
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we need to really be aware, very perceptive of what's coming down the pipeline
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here. We've got a end there, we'll say thank you very much for
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joining our first twenty twenty four edition of No Smoke Without Fire. If you
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also tell us whether you like the introduction of the match bursting into flame.
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But we thought it was brilliant, so well done, Mike Robinson, Debbie,
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thanks very much for joining me. We'll be back soon for episode two
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of No Smoke Without Fire. Bye bye, bye bye.