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- 0:03Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Greb A Stolen next to Greg Corumbus of Radio America
- 0:07Speaker 2: and Jim Garritty of National Review. Free Martini's Coming Up.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Welcome to the last call of the week for the
- 0:15Speaker 3: Three Martini Lunch. This is our weekly recap of the
- 0:18Speaker 3: biggest stories of the week. In this edition, we discuss
- 0:21Speaker 3: how the preliminary hearings into the Charlie Kirk murder trial
- 0:24Speaker 3: are exposing the many conspiracy theories as complete nonsense, President
- 0:29Speaker 3: Trump suggesting the Iran deal is dead, and how illegal
- 0:33Speaker 3: immigration during the Biden years caused a huge spike in
- 0:36Speaker 3: housing costs, and in our chaser of the week, what
- 0:40Speaker 3: is going on with Senator Mitch McConnell. But we begin
- 0:44Speaker 3: with the truth crushing conspiracy theories Jim. Obviously, events in
- 0:49Speaker 3: Maine have kind of consumed most of our attention this week,
- 0:52Speaker 3: and there's still a little bit of drama left there.
- 0:54Speaker 3: But one of the other things that was going on
- 0:56Speaker 3: this week out in Utah is the preliminary hearing to
- 1:00Speaker 3: make sure there's enough evidence and boy is there to
- 1:03Speaker 3: go to trial. As it concerns Tyler Robinson, the guy
- 1:06Speaker 3: accused of murdering Charlie Kirk in September of last year
- 1:10Speaker 3: at Utah Valley University. And so, you know, in addition
- 1:14Speaker 3: to the fact that we want justice in this case,
- 1:17Speaker 3: unfortunately Erica Kirk and her family and the people close
- 1:20Speaker 3: to Charlie Kirk have had to deal with this maniacal nonsense,
- 1:24Speaker 3: primarily from Candace Owens, but also from others who continue
- 1:27Speaker 3: to chime in on social media and elsewhere, trying to
- 1:30Speaker 3: blur the lines blatantly live what have you about what
- 1:33Speaker 3: actually happened that day and who's responsible for it. I mean,
- 1:36Speaker 3: Candace Owens has more purpse than Kennedy assassination conspiracy. So
- 1:41Speaker 3: we've got a lot of clarification this week that I'm
- 1:44Speaker 3: sure she's going to try to spin away in a
- 1:46Speaker 3: number of different ways. But we also know that Tyler
- 1:49Speaker 3: Robinson confessed three separate times to murdering Charlie Kirk. He
- 1:53Speaker 3: confessed in a text message to his boyfriend, a guy
- 1:56Speaker 3: named Lance Twiggs, who is now cooperating with the prosecution
- 1:59Speaker 3: in exchange for limited immunity. He confessed in a discord chat.
- 2:04Speaker 3: He confessed to law enforcement. And so despite all that,
- 2:09Speaker 3: despite the DNA on the rifle. Despite the video, there's
- 2:12Speaker 3: still you know, a thousand conspiracy theories blooming. But a
- 2:17Speaker 3: guy on Twitter who's been following this, it goes by
- 2:19Speaker 3: Florida Dad. This is just a non comprehensive list, he says,
- 2:23Speaker 3: of Candace Owen's lies debunked in just the past forty
- 2:26Speaker 3: eight hours. Candace Lie Robinson never on campus. Truth four times,
- 2:29Speaker 3: multiple camera angles. Candace Lye Charlie had an exploding mic. Truth,
- 2:34Speaker 3: bullet fragments were found in his neck. Candace Lye twigs
- 2:37Speaker 3: messages are fake. Truth pictures were taken directly from the phone,
- 2:40Speaker 3: and he admits authenticity. Lie Robinson couldn't possibly have jumped
- 2:44Speaker 3: off the roof of that building. Truth, there's video of
- 2:47Speaker 3: him jumping off the roof of that building. Lie, gun
- 2:49Speaker 3: and ammo would have had an exit wound.
- 2:51Speaker 1: Truth.
- 2:52Speaker 3: The ammo he used was designed to break apart inside
- 2:54Speaker 3: the target. Lie couldn't have sent messages already in custody.
- 2:57Speaker 3: Truth sent messages an hour before. And on and on
- 3:00Speaker 3: it goes, including supposedly that Robinson wasn't the right height
- 3:03Speaker 3: for the person.
- 3:03Speaker 1: In the video.
- 3:04Speaker 3: That's been debunked as well, And so I'm sure the
- 3:07Speaker 3: grift is going to keep going here, Jim. But it's
- 3:09Speaker 3: good to know that the truth is lining up with
- 3:12Speaker 3: what all the rational people thought all along.
- 3:14Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen some folks on x speculating, well, this
- 3:17Speaker 4: is the end of Candas owns that this is going
- 3:20Speaker 4: to be the end of.
- 3:20Speaker 1: This crazy conspiracy theory.
- 3:22Speaker 4: This is going to be such a thorough soup to
- 3:27Speaker 4: nuts beginning to end, refutation of every crazy conspiracy theory
- 3:31Speaker 4: that has come out of her mouth, and other podcast
- 3:34Speaker 4: hosts as well, that this is going to destroy their
- 3:36Speaker 4: credibility once for all and no one will ever listen
- 3:38Speaker 4: to them. Sadly, I don't think that's necessarily going to
- 3:42Speaker 4: come to pass. There's always going to be an audience
- 3:44Speaker 4: for this. There's always going to be people who choose
- 3:45Speaker 4: to believe in the really and exciting and dramatic conspiracy
- 3:50Speaker 4: theory than in facts that are depressing but you know, accurate.
- 3:53Speaker 4: But I was thinking about Greg, when's the last time
- 3:55Speaker 4: you heard anybody talking about QAnon? You know, like this
- 3:59Speaker 4: was a very big deal in Trump's first term. Uh
- 4:02Speaker 4: tied into that nut job Pizzagate, the guy I went
- 4:05Speaker 4: into the Comet pizzeria and this one, this is constantly, Oh,
- 4:08Speaker 4: the storm is coming, and don't you wit Trump and
- 4:11Speaker 4: the administry. There were this giant child abuse rings being
- 4:15Speaker 4: run by celebrities and Hillary Clinton and all these other folks,
- 4:20Speaker 4: and the only reason they hadn't been arrested yet was
- 4:22Speaker 4: that Trump was getting all the pieces into place. It
- 4:24Speaker 4: was going to be checkmate, you know. And then as
- 4:27Speaker 4: Trump got closer to leaving office at the end of
- 4:30Speaker 4: his first term with some bumps in the road, there
- 4:33Speaker 4: was a strain like, well, don't you wait, it's common,
- 4:34Speaker 4: It's common.
- 4:35Speaker 1: And then he flew away on air Force.
- 4:37Speaker 4: On the end of it, I was like, oh, oh,
- 4:39Speaker 4: there isn't going to be a sweeping chain of arrests.
- 4:41Speaker 4: Oh this enormous QAnon, as in anonymous did not know
- 4:45Speaker 4: what they were talking about. There were not actually a
- 4:47Speaker 4: highly placed source. And so here's like, you don't see
- 4:49Speaker 4: a lot of people defending QAnon these days. You don't
- 4:52Speaker 4: see anybody who's willing to say yes. I was a
- 4:54Speaker 4: diehard believer in QAnon, and I was completely convinced that
- 4:56Speaker 4: they're going to be sweeping crackdowns and routing up of
- 4:59Speaker 4: some specs and all that kind of stuff. Everybody kind
- 5:02Speaker 4: of just chose to forget about it. Some of us
- 5:04Speaker 4: remember it, like, yeah, this was always nonsense. I think
- 5:06Speaker 4: in a couple of years from now, everyone who could
- 5:08Speaker 4: choose no one will ever be willing to admit Yes,
- 5:11Speaker 4: I believe what Candace Owens was saying.
- 5:14Speaker 1: I believe that there was a grand was.
- 5:15Speaker 4: It French, the Israelis Marine, Emanuel mcron, you know, Elvis,
- 5:21Speaker 4: all of them were all involved in this plot to
- 5:24Speaker 4: kill Charlie Kirk. You know, in five years, everybody's like,
- 5:27Speaker 4: there'll be the hardcore dead enders who are unreachable. But
- 5:30Speaker 4: I think in the process like this will turn into
- 5:32Speaker 4: something that nobody wants to remember. And you know, the
- 5:36Speaker 4: only bad news is that Candace Owens is laughing all
- 5:38Speaker 4: the way to the bank.
- 5:39Speaker 3: No, she certainly is. But remember she's the only one
- 5:42Speaker 3: who's truly concerned about Charlie.
- 5:43Speaker 1: So that's why she has to trash.
- 5:45Speaker 3: His widow and his family, his co workers, the organization
- 5:48Speaker 3: and so many other things. It's only her, only she
- 5:51Speaker 3: is concerned about the truth here, whatever the truth is
- 5:54Speaker 3: coming out in this courtA, I'm assuming this is going
- 5:57Speaker 3: to be ruled more than enough evidence to go over
- 6:00Speaker 3: for trial, and the amount of evidence of guessing will
- 6:03Speaker 3: probably be enough to convict him as well. But let's
- 6:05Speaker 3: not get the cart before the horse. But yes, getting
- 6:08Speaker 3: truth out there after so much just absolute nonsense is
- 6:12Speaker 3: being spewed out by her and others is good to see.
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- 7:46Speaker 3: On Wednesday, Jim and I discussed how President Trump seems
- 7:49Speaker 3: to be finally running out of patients with I ran,
- 7:53Speaker 3: President Trump is in Turkey and he's meeting with NATO
- 7:56Speaker 3: members there and obviously of the last or so and
- 8:00Speaker 3: really even before that, Iran's been firing on commercial ships
- 8:03Speaker 3: again in the Persian Gulf, straits of horror moves the
- 8:06Speaker 3: US responding. I think yesterday's response is probably more significant
- 8:09Speaker 3: than anything we've seen in terms of this back and
- 8:11Speaker 3: forth since the signing of the memorandum of understanding. Trump
- 8:15Speaker 3: obviously fed up with Iran consistently violating the terms of
- 8:20Speaker 3: the memorandum of understanding. He's not only firing back, but
- 8:23Speaker 3: he's also basically stopped their ability to sell oil, at
- 8:28Speaker 3: least for the time being. But he also thinks the
- 8:30Speaker 3: MoU is mostly dead.
- 8:33Speaker 1: The sea fire over, it's the seat fire. John, Is
- 8:35Speaker 1: themou dead?
- 8:38Speaker 5: It's a very interesting question to me. I think it's over.
- 8:43Speaker 5: I don't want to deal with him with this scum.
- 8:45Speaker 5: You know what scum is the scum there's sick people.
- 8:49Speaker 5: They're led by sick people and the vicious, violent people,
- 8:54Speaker 5: and if they had a nuclear weapon, they'd use it.
- 8:56Speaker 5: As far as I'm concerned, it's over. I'll speak to
- 8:59Speaker 5: our newotiators. They want to negotiate. They're good people, Steve Woodcuff,
- 9:04Speaker 5: Jared Kusher, but they have to come back to me,
- 9:07Speaker 5: sar as I'm concerned, it's just a waste of time
- 9:09Speaker 5: dealing with them. They're liars. We make a deal, and
- 9:13Speaker 5: if I make a deal with him, we have a deal,
- 9:15Speaker 5: and he goes out, he talks, we make a deal,
- 9:17Speaker 5: everyone's agreed, no nuclear weapon.
- 9:20Speaker 1: We make a deal.
- 9:21Speaker 5: They go outside talk to the press. They say, we
- 9:23Speaker 5: never even talked about it.
- 9:24Speaker 1: There's something wrong with them. They're cuckoo.
- 9:28Speaker 5: Far as I'm concerned, You're over they're cuckoo.
- 9:31Speaker 3: But they're also radical Islamis, and that's the problem there. So, Jim,
- 9:35Speaker 3: do you think it is actually dead? I know how
- 9:38Speaker 3: much regard you have for the Memorandum of Understanding, so
- 9:40Speaker 3: I'm sure you'd be horrified if it did not come
- 9:43Speaker 3: to fruition here. But of course the question after that
- 9:45Speaker 3: is then what, so where do you see this?
- 9:48Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard the argument that, despite this latest outburst,
- 9:51Speaker 4: the Memorandum of hers Understanding is not dead. It is
- 9:54Speaker 4: merely pining for the fjords. Now it's not pining. It
- 9:58Speaker 4: has passed on no more.
- 10:00Speaker 2: It has ceased to be. It has expired and gone
- 10:03Speaker 2: to meet its maker. Stiff, bereft of life, rests in peace.
- 10:07Speaker 2: If you nailed it to the perch, it'd be pushing
- 10:09Speaker 2: up the daisy. It's metabolic processes are now history. Off
- 10:13Speaker 2: the twig, kick the bucket, shoveled up it's mortal coil,
- 10:16Speaker 2: Run down the curtain.
- 10:17Speaker 4: And join the bleeding choir invisible. This is an ex
- 10:21Speaker 4: memorandum of understanding. Credit to Monty Python for the parrot sketch. So,
- 10:27Speaker 4: on the one hand, good this does leave me wondering
- 10:30Speaker 4: what the point of it all was From the very beginning,
- 10:33Speaker 4: from the beginning of the conflict, I've pointed out time
- 10:35Speaker 4: and time again that the Iranian regime has broken every
- 10:38Speaker 4: treaty and every deal it's ever signed. So they're just
- 10:43Speaker 4: this inherently duplicitous, untrustworthy regime. And you know, putting aside
- 10:48Speaker 4: the fact that I'm not a huge fantas Steve would
- 10:50Speaker 4: CoV you know, I'm a slightly higher opinion of Jared Kushner.
- 10:53Speaker 4: But these guys did not seem like they like The
- 10:56Speaker 4: whole concept was, why would you assume a regime that
- 10:59Speaker 4: always breaks the word is going to keep its word
- 11:02Speaker 4: in this circumstance, particularly when it appears, you know, for
- 11:05Speaker 4: obvious reasons gas prices, et cetera.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Donald Trump does not.
- 11:08Speaker 4: Want the war to continue, wants the war to be
- 11:10Speaker 4: done with over in the rear view mirror, and to
- 11:13Speaker 4: try to get, you know, back to a more normal
- 11:16Speaker 4: energy price and economic environment. So on the one hand,
- 11:19Speaker 4: I'm glad for this, I kind of wish we had
- 11:20Speaker 4: not had the president not just touting this but also
- 11:22Speaker 4: talk about how remember how rational the Mullas were, how
- 11:25Speaker 4: they were so much better than the previous one. Somebody
- 11:27Speaker 4: was saying earlier today on X like, you know we
- 11:29Speaker 4: DoD Trump all these exaggerates. Yeah, yeah, we know that
- 11:31Speaker 4: Trump always exaggerates. And if you want to say, we
- 11:34Speaker 4: have good reasons, you know, we understand the history, but
- 11:36Speaker 4: we have reasons to think that these are good. Like, okay, fine,
- 11:38Speaker 4: you know when Trump goes on and on about how
- 11:40Speaker 4: rational and good and how much these you know, the
- 11:42Speaker 4: Iranian leaders love their country and all that stuff, and
- 11:45Speaker 4: then a few weeks letter has to come out and say, oh,
- 11:46Speaker 4: these guys are nuts.
- 11:47Speaker 1: They they like, I think he just looks naive.
- 11:49Speaker 4: I think he just looks, you know, like he's just
- 11:52Speaker 4: in denial of the realities of the regimes. I don't
- 11:54Speaker 4: think there is a way for a serious peaceful co
- 11:56Speaker 4: existence between this regime and the United States or our
- 12:00Speaker 4: allies or are you really the rest of the Middle East.
- 12:04Speaker 4: They are who they say they are. They begin every
- 12:06Speaker 4: day with death to America. There's no mutual coexistence, no
- 12:10Speaker 4: mutual understanding to be reached. There, so I think this
- 12:13Speaker 4: means the conflict is back on now. How intensely the
- 12:16Speaker 4: US wants to continue this is an open question, but
- 12:18Speaker 4: I think you could genuinely. We gave them, the Iranians
- 12:21Speaker 4: by far, the best deal they could ever conceivably ever
- 12:24Speaker 4: hope for, and they they still kept shooting at chips
- 12:27Speaker 4: in the Persian Gulf and going through the straight offoor moves.
- 12:29Speaker 4: They're not interested in peace, so let's stop pursuing it
- 12:31Speaker 4: with them. Let's recognize that there's no way to get
- 12:33Speaker 4: around this other than all out conflict that leaves the
- 12:36Speaker 4: regime no longer in power. We gave peace the best shot,
- 12:40Speaker 4: and it did not work. I don't think I don't
- 12:42Speaker 4: think there's many alternatives there.
- 12:43Speaker 3: All right, Well, the Iranians obviously keep procrastinating. They really
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- 13:55Speaker 3: Here just the news, John Solomon reporting here. A new
- 13:58Speaker 3: Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas working paper estimates the record
- 14:02Speaker 3: surge in illegal immigration during the Biden administration boosted employment
- 14:07Speaker 3: while causing thirty percent of home price increases and twenty
- 14:10Speaker 3: percent of rent increases. The paper combined immigration court records
- 14:14Speaker 3: with government administrative data to create the first ever calculation
- 14:18Speaker 3: of how a wave of seven million illegal immigrants from
- 14:20Speaker 3: twenty twenty one through twenty twenty four affected local labor
- 14:23Speaker 3: and housing markets. From early twenty one to early twenty four,
- 14:26Speaker 3: the US experienced an unprecedented boom and unauthorized immigration, followed
- 14:30Speaker 3: by a rapid slow down beginning in mid twenty twenty four.
- 14:34Speaker 3: And this is the paper again we provide the first
- 14:36Speaker 3: systematic empirical assessment of the labor and housing markets effect
- 14:41Speaker 3: on this episode. The total weighted mean increase in housing
- 14:44Speaker 3: prices and rents over this period were twenty two point
- 14:46Speaker 3: four percent and twenty two point six percent, respectively. Putting
- 14:49Speaker 3: these together for the average, they can explain approximately thirty
- 14:53Speaker 3: percent of the total increase in house prices and twenty
- 14:57Speaker 3: percent of the total increase in rents Jim. That's not
- 15:01Speaker 3: a small increase. That's massive inflation. There are other inflationary
- 15:04Speaker 3: factors that are already driving these things up. But the
- 15:07Speaker 3: burden not only in just you know, social and welfare services, education, healthcare,
- 15:13Speaker 3: what have you, obviously the criminal element of all of this.
- 15:16Speaker 3: And now you've got people paying way more than they
- 15:19Speaker 3: otherwise would have because of Biden's reckless border policy.
- 15:23Speaker 4: So the price of anything gets determined by supply and demand.
- 15:28Speaker 4: Supply of housing, it can increase, it does increase, but
- 15:31Speaker 4: it takes a while to increase. Anybody who's ever watched
- 15:34Speaker 4: a house being built, or let's say, I don't know,
- 15:36Speaker 4: hypothetically a tree falls in your house and you need
- 15:38Speaker 4: to have repairs for it. Yeah, home construction takes a while.
- 15:42Speaker 4: Home construction takes even more, by the way, when you
- 15:44Speaker 4: have shortages of supplies and all that stuff. Those are
- 15:46Speaker 4: kind of separate factors. The question is like, if you're
- 15:48Speaker 4: wanting why are housing prices going up or going down? Well,
- 15:51Speaker 4: how's the housing supply going and how's the housing demand going.
- 15:54Speaker 1: Now? Americans are a mobile society.
- 15:57Speaker 4: People move for work, people move to go to college,
- 15:59Speaker 4: people move to graduate from college.
- 16:00Speaker 1: They have an opportunity.
- 16:01Speaker 4: People you know, get married, they will be closer to family,
- 16:04Speaker 4: they move to get further away from their family. It's
- 16:06Speaker 4: kind of tough to figure out exactly what the housing
- 16:08Speaker 4: you know, demand is because it's always changing.
- 16:10Speaker 1: But a lot of people want to live in an area.
- 16:12Speaker 4: Housing demand is up, housing supplies stays the same or
- 16:15Speaker 4: is only going up very gradually. Housing prices are going
- 16:17Speaker 4: to go up significantly. This is just assuming you know,
- 16:21Speaker 4: the the people being born, people dying remain the same,
- 16:25Speaker 4: more people live alone than they did a while ago.
- 16:27Speaker 4: All these things can play into it. But when you
- 16:29Speaker 4: add seven million people in a fairly short period of time,
- 16:33Speaker 4: what do you think is going to happen? Because those
- 16:34Speaker 4: people aren't you know, some of those people might be
- 16:36Speaker 4: sleeping on the streets, some of those people might be
- 16:38Speaker 4: sleeping in tents or something. But a lot of those
- 16:39Speaker 4: people are going to want and need housing somewhere, and
- 16:42Speaker 4: maybe they're going to be in a shelter somewhere. But
- 16:44Speaker 4: you know, but it's more of those things like you
- 16:45Speaker 4: can't put that much demand into the system and not
- 16:49Speaker 4: not without a corresponding increase in supply, and not expect
- 16:53Speaker 4: housing prices to go up? Now, are there other factors? Nimbiism,
- 16:56Speaker 4: stuff like that. Sure, you know, this is not what
- 16:58Speaker 4: I's going to say. The sole reason that your house
- 17:01Speaker 4: prices are going up is because of illegal immigration. But
- 17:04Speaker 4: it was a factor. Oh, by the way, while all
- 17:07Speaker 4: this was going on, Greg, what was what was the
- 17:10Speaker 4: Biden administration doing to the money.
- 17:11Speaker 3: Supply artificially increasing it.
- 17:13Speaker 1: Right huge to a couple trillion and spending us.
- 17:15Speaker 4: So we're gonna make you know, at the same time
- 17:18Speaker 4: we're increasing demand for housing, and at the same time
- 17:22Speaker 4: we're going to keep the level of housing either the
- 17:23Speaker 4: same or increasing only very slowly. We're gonna make the
- 17:27Speaker 4: value of the dollar go down. What do you think
- 17:29Speaker 4: that's going to do to housing prices? What do you
- 17:30Speaker 4: think that's going to do to rental prices and all
- 17:32Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. Look, I'm sure there are some
- 17:35Speaker 4: good folks in that seven million, but they did not
- 17:37Speaker 4: have a right to enter the country. They did not
- 17:39Speaker 4: have a right to stay. Do you really want you
- 17:41Speaker 4: want to get out of trouble, go home to your
- 17:42Speaker 4: home country, apply legally, go through the process.
- 17:44Speaker 1: Ye.
- 17:44Speaker 4: I know it's a pain in the neck, but you
- 17:46Speaker 4: know what, we have the right to determine who comes
- 17:47Speaker 4: into this country.
- 17:48Speaker 3: Up next, the mystery surrounding Senator Mitch McConnell. Jim, yesterday
- 17:57Speaker 3: you and Craig talked about the mystery of Mitch mc connell.
- 18:00Speaker 3: You know, ambulance came to his house. We think we
- 18:03Speaker 3: have the recording. Cardiac arrest CPR. Obviously a very serious situation.
- 18:07Speaker 3: Nobody's seen him. He's still in the hospital. Some people
- 18:11Speaker 3: are reporting that he's brain dead and being kept alive
- 18:14Speaker 3: past August third, so there's not a special election to
- 18:17Speaker 3: bridge the gap between him and the general election in November.
- 18:22Speaker 3: But there are others who are saying no, he's slowly
- 18:24Speaker 3: getting better. His staff has admittedly been incredibly cryptic about this,
- 18:29Speaker 3: but yesterday others in leadership, John Thune, the majority leader,
- 18:33Speaker 3: John Barassa of Wyoming also in the leadership, saying no,
- 18:36Speaker 3: we had conversations with him. Also saying he had a
- 18:38Speaker 3: conversation with McConnell is Scott Jennings, the radio host, podcast
- 18:42Speaker 3: host and CNN commentator, who made it clear that, at
- 18:45Speaker 3: least based on what he experienced yesterday, Mitch McConnell's very
- 18:50Speaker 3: much alive.
- 18:50Speaker 6: He called me this morning before I did my radio show.
- 18:54Speaker 6: We talked for about seventeen minutes. He talked a lot
- 18:57Speaker 6: about the situation with Iran, talk a little bit of
- 19:00Speaker 6: about Ukraine and what's going on in Europe. I told
- 19:03Speaker 6: him I had been to the Teddy Roosevelt Library. We
- 19:05Speaker 6: talked a little bit about the history of the vice
- 19:07Speaker 6: presidency and how Roosevelt had transformed that in the modern presidency.
- 19:12Speaker 6: Little history of the Senate. I mean, it was a
- 19:15Speaker 6: you know, it was a wide ranging conversation. I talked
- 19:17Speaker 6: to him often. I hadn't talked to him since he'd
- 19:19Speaker 6: been in I'd gotten a few text messages from but
- 19:20Speaker 6: I hadn't spoken to him. So it was good to
- 19:23Speaker 6: hear his voice. Voice sounded strong and sounded like he
- 19:25Speaker 6: was keeping up with the news to me.
- 19:26Speaker 3: Did you ask him how he was feeling, Yeah.
- 19:29Speaker 6: He said, you know, he said, was feeling okay. You know,
- 19:32Speaker 6: obviously well enough to call me on the phone, and
- 19:34Speaker 6: obviously well enough to talk to Brasso and fun. Now, look,
- 19:37Speaker 6: I'm not qualified to discuss any medical issues or give
- 19:41Speaker 6: you any information about that. That's really for him.
- 19:43Speaker 1: Or his his staff to do.
- 19:45Speaker 6: But you know, I talked to him from time to time,
- 19:47Speaker 6: and I see him from time to time, and you know,
- 19:50Speaker 6: we had a conversation today about the things that we
- 19:52Speaker 6: normally talk about, which are news today political stuff.
- 19:55Speaker 3: Did you come away feeling like he's still capable of
- 19:57Speaker 3: serving the people of Kentucky as senator?
- 20:00Speaker 6: I came away feeling that he was staying on top
- 20:02Speaker 6: of the news. Again. I look his condition and why
- 20:07Speaker 6: he's in the hospital or when he might come out
- 20:09Speaker 6: or look, that's.
- 20:10Speaker 3: Do you know why? And are just saying you're got
- 20:13Speaker 3: a liberty to share.
- 20:14Speaker 1: I do not know why.
- 20:14Speaker 6: I only know frankly what has been reported or what
- 20:18Speaker 6: his office has said.
- 20:19Speaker 3: So, Jim, if he is, you know, on life support,
- 20:22Speaker 3: Scott Jennings's credibility shot. But then so is fun in Brassa.
- 20:26Speaker 3: So the fact that there's multiple people saying he's capable
- 20:28Speaker 3: of holding a conversation would suggest that the life support
- 20:31Speaker 3: contention is not necessarily the case. However, if you've ever
- 20:34Speaker 3: known anyone who's been lucky enough to survive cardiac arrest,
- 20:37Speaker 3: the recovery from that is very intense. Might not even
- 20:40Speaker 3: make it after weeks or months, but it's still a
- 20:43Speaker 3: very very difficult come back. And so then the question
- 20:46Speaker 3: becomes is he is he able to serve? And so Farth,
- 20:49Speaker 3: But a lot has happened since you and Craig talked
- 20:51Speaker 3: about it yesterday.
- 20:51Speaker 1: What's your take on the latest?
- 20:52Speaker 4: Yeah, if Scott Jennings says he's talked to him, I
- 20:55Speaker 4: believe that, not just because I you know, I would
- 20:58Speaker 4: say I have Scott Jennings, well, but I've chatted with
- 20:59Speaker 4: him a couple of times, and I think lying about
- 21:02Speaker 4: something like this would be psychotic, and also for him
- 21:05Speaker 4: to like if Mitch McConnell is in a coma and
- 21:08Speaker 4: Scott Jennings is making up this story and fun is
- 21:11Speaker 4: making up this story, and then they're all crazy and
- 21:14Speaker 4: they're all you know, so like, I look this, I'll
- 21:16Speaker 4: count this as proof of life. I do think it's
- 21:18Speaker 4: troubling that we're not being told what ailment has him
- 21:21Speaker 4: in the hospital. He's been in the hospital for more
- 21:22Speaker 4: than three weeks now. Mitch McConnell is eighty four years old,
- 21:25Speaker 4: and we saw him freeze up right. We knew he
- 21:28Speaker 4: was having health challenges heading into this. I think that
- 21:32Speaker 4: you are obligated as a public official to keep the
- 21:34Speaker 4: public when you are when you can't be in your job.
- 21:37Speaker 4: If you did not show up at Radio America for
- 21:39Speaker 4: three weeks, people including myself, would be very, very worried
- 21:41Speaker 4: and would want to know what's going.
- 21:42Speaker 1: On with this.
- 21:43Speaker 4: It was interesting that Jennings said he did not know
- 21:44Speaker 4: why he's in the hospital. That seems like one of
- 21:47Speaker 4: the first things you talk about, Oh my god, senator,
- 21:49Speaker 4: how are you doing?
- 21:50Speaker 1: What happened?
- 21:50Speaker 4: Maybe he doesn't feel comfortable talking about it, or he
- 21:52Speaker 4: feels like the you know, that should come from the
- 21:54Speaker 4: senator or his office. But I think the people have
- 21:58Speaker 4: a right to know what happened because this was not
- 22:00Speaker 4: a minor issue. Clearly, if you are still in the
- 22:02Speaker 4: hospital three to four weeks later, then this is something significant.
- 22:05Speaker 4: The recovery time could be significant. And people, you know,
- 22:08Speaker 4: he's obviously he's not voting, he's not able to be
- 22:10Speaker 4: in Washington. How you doing, Mitch, let us know how
- 22:13Speaker 4: it's going, and like it. I know that we don't
- 22:15Speaker 4: want a Democratic governor to appoint it. Like really in
- 22:17Speaker 4: the end, coming right on the heels of Tom Keen Junior,
- 22:20Speaker 4: coming right on the heels of everybody in the Biden
- 22:23Speaker 4: administration saying, oh Biden's.
- 22:24Speaker 1: Got so much energy, I can't keep up with them.
- 22:26Speaker 4: It just doesn't look good for elderly lawmakers to say, yeah,
- 22:29Speaker 4: we're dealing with a health issue, but we're not going
- 22:31Speaker 4: to tell you what it is, and we don't know
- 22:32Speaker 4: what he's going to be out of the hospital, and
- 22:34Speaker 4: you're just going to have to learn no, no this.
- 22:36Speaker 4: You say you're a public servant, you really need to
- 22:40Speaker 4: serve the public with updated accurate information about whatever ailment
- 22:45Speaker 4: you're dealing with.
- 22:46Speaker 1: And again, I hope he lives to be one hundred.
- 22:47Speaker 1: I hope you know.
- 22:48Speaker 4: I think very well the guy, but you really have
- 22:50Speaker 4: an obligation to your to your constituents to reveal stuff,
- 22:52Speaker 4: and that's not happening right now.
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