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- 0:09Temperatures are on the rise in
- 0:10Hayes County.
- 0:11It's bracing for a fourth year of
- 0:12drought. Now with familiar water
- 0:14restrictions and limitations, there
- 0:16are new severe issues with their
- 0:17water wells.
- 0:18And in a viral clip heard around
- 0:20the world, one actor questioned the
- 0:22relevance of opera and ballet and
- 0:24everyone's talking about it.
- 0:26But how do those words hit right
- 0:27here at home?
- 0:28Well, we'll hear from two local arts
- 0:30organizations, Ballet Austin and
- 0:32Austin Opera, to get their take.
- 0:34The Austin Signal is a production
- 0:36of KUT News, hosted by
- 0:38Miles Bloxson.
- 0:39The historic venue hole in the wall
- 0:41is under new ownership.
- 0:43Find out what the new owners have
- 0:44planned for the music venue.
- 0:46Plus Accent Unmuted, a live
- 0:48storytelling event, is happening
- 0:50tonight.
- 0:51Hear more from the event's creator.
- 0:53That's coming up next on
- 0:55Austin Signal.
- 1:06Hey Austin, I hope you're having an
- 1:08amazing day.
- 1:09It's Thursday, March 26th.
- 1:11I'm Miles Bloxson and this is
- 1:13Austin Signal.
- 1:15As temperatures climb and summer
- 1:16dryness creeps in, residents in
- 1:18Hayes County are bracing for a
- 1:20fourth year of drought.
- 1:21Aquifer levels have been depleted to
- 1:23historic lows, threatening a
- 1:25major source of drinking water for
- 1:27the area.
- 1:28Alongside now familiar water
- 1:29restrictions, some Hayes county
- 1:31residents are having new or more
- 1:33severe issues with their once
- 1:35reliable Water wells.
- 1:36KUT's Hayes County reporter
- 1:38Lee Walden has the
- 1:40story.
- 1:41Radiance is a small rural community
- 1:43in northwestern Hays.
- 1:45It's got small town charm, a
- 1:47neighborhood where you can reliably
- 1:48enlist help to find a lost dog
- 1:50or count on a wave while you're
- 1:52driving.
- 1:53Madeleine Brock has lived there for
- 1:54decades.
- 1:55Everybody is interested in
- 1:57community living and
- 1:59so we pretty much know all of our
- 2:01neighbors.
- 2:02Radiance, like most of Hayes County,
- 2:04has been living with drought
- 2:05restrictions on and off for years,
- 2:07but their well was steady and
- 2:09reliable. That was, of course,
- 2:10until early last year.
- 2:12Then it just started, we had less
- 2:14and less water coming
- 2:16from that well.
- 2:17And finally, at the end of January,
- 2:192025,
- 2:22it was not pumping anymore.
- 2:24After the well dried up, residents
- 2:26had to use an old well.
- 2:28It had been out of commission for
- 2:29years because of contamination that
- 2:31made it unsafe to drink.
- 2:33That retired well was the
- 2:34neighborhood's only source of water.
- 2:36They had to boil the water before
- 2:37drinking it.
- 2:38They lived like that from February
- 2:40to September of last year.
- 2:42It was a long haul for
- 2:44everybody.
- 2:46The health of wells isn't just a
- 2:47concern for radiance.
- 2:49All over Hays County, wells are
- 2:50struggling to provide water as
- 2:52aquifer levels get lower and lower.
- 2:55That's been keeping well drillers
- 2:56and servicers busy.
- 2:57Not only doing routine well care,
- 2:59but also solving problems that have
- 3:01been exacerbated by the drought.
- 3:03Well maintenance is time-consuming,
- 3:05delicate work.
- 3:06It depends on if you're replacing
- 3:07the water, replacing the pipe, you
- 3:09know what I mean?
- 3:09Around 20 miles southeast of
- 3:11Radiance in Buda, Matthew Taylor
- 3:13and Vanna Welch stand near the
- 3:15tailgate of their truck.
- 3:17It's decked out with all the
- 3:18equipment needed to service wells.
- 3:20Tools that look like giant metal
- 3:22rabbit's ears, wrenches so big
- 3:24they come up to a grown man's waist.
- 3:26A huge spool of electrical wire.
- 3:29Growing out of the back of the truck
- 3:30is a 40 foot tall arm that
- 3:32draws the pieces of the well up
- 3:34section by section.
- 3:38Today, Taylor and Welch are working
- 3:40on a pump replacement.
- 3:42There's the water.
- 3:45198
- 3:47This well is in good shape.
- 3:49The men work together to bring up
- 3:50the old pump, replace the old
- 3:52electrical line, lower a new pump,
- 3:54and reattach each piece of the pipe
- 3:56leading down the well.
- 4:00Jared Thompson owns The Well Doctor,
- 4:02the company working on this well.
- 4:04He's been in the water game so long
- 4:05that he can guesstimate what the
- 4:07water level in this area used to be.
- 4:08It used to probably be around 100
- 4:10feet.
- 4:10That is, the water was about 100
- 4:12feet below the ground.
- 4:13And so then they could have the pump
- 4:15set at 200 feet and have plenty of
- 4:17water.
- 4:17The pump would be 100 feet below the
- 4:19water level, but the water has
- 4:20dropped.
- 4:21What did you say the water level
- 4:22was?
- 4:23190. 190.
- 4:24And so then they would be sucking
- 4:26air momentarily
- 4:28while they were running water.
- 4:29So at that point, if they knew that,
- 4:31then we could just simply lower it
- 4:32down an extra 100 feet.
- 4:34Thompson says butyl wells, by
- 4:36and large, are pretty healthy right
- 4:37now, but wells near dripping springs
- 4:39aren't doing so hot.
- 4:40That's where we really see the water
- 4:41level drop consistently.
- 4:43Thompson and his crew are replacing
- 4:45or lowering more and more wells
- 4:46throughout the county.
- 4:48The last major drought that hit
- 4:49Hayes from 2008 to 2014
- 4:51kept Thompson's company busy.
- 4:54They were lowering pumps almost
- 4:55every day, and some wells needed
- 4:57to be dug even deeper.
- 4:59Now he says some of those deeper
- 5:01wells are going dry these days,
- 5:03and redrilling costs a lot.
- 5:05It could be around $75,000
- 5:07to get it re-drilled and all new
- 5:09equipment into it, so it's quite
- 5:10expensive.
- 5:11A lot of owning and maintaining
- 5:13a well is expensive.
- 5:14Even the pump replacement Taylor and
- 5:16Welch are doing in Buda is a $7,500
- 5:18ordeal.
- 5:20Most home insurance doesn't cover
- 5:21wells. The Radiance neighborhood had
- 5:23to take out a loan for $40,000
- 5:25to restore water to their community.
- 5:28There's another $5,000-$10,000
- 5:30for testing and monitoring on
- 5:32top of that.
- 5:33All split between the 40 or so
- 5:35homes.
- 5:35You know, everybody's gonna see that
- 5:36burden a little bit financially.
- 5:38Arturo Rivera lives in Radiance,
- 5:40and he says that this is a stressful
- 5:42expense for some of the
- 5:43neighborhood.
- 5:43In order to basically
- 5:45provide water in this
- 5:47state of the drought, we had to
- 5:49spend a lot of money to feel secure
- 5:51in our water source.
- 5:52It doesn't look like the situation
- 5:54is getting better anytime soon.
- 5:56The Hayes-Trinity Groundwater
- 5:57Conservation District says aquifer
- 5:59and river conditions have not been
- 6:00this bad in the more than 20-year
- 6:02history of the district, including
- 6:05the 2011 drought.
- 6:07Every one of the District's
- 6:08monitored wells are below historic
- 6:10levels.
- 6:11It would take 34 inches of rain
- 6:13in the next six months to pull the
- 6:15region out of drought.
- 6:16The Conservation District estimates
- 6:18there's less than a 1% chance
- 6:20of that happening.
- 6:21Meanwhile, Hayes County has launched
- 6:23a countywide study to plan for
- 6:25future water needs.
- 6:26This will give local governments
- 6:28updated water data and information
- 6:30for the first time since 2011.
- 6:32But for now, in neighborhoods like
- 6:34Radiance, the impacts of the water
- 6:36crisis are already deeply felt and
- 6:38not resolved.
- 6:39It's just going to be a bit of a
- 6:40steep hill to climb and it's not
- 6:42like it's going to be solved today
- 6:43or tomorrow, but we have to
- 6:45plan for the future.
- 6:46From Hayes County, I'm Leigh Walden.
- 6:53Back in February, Matthew
- 6:55McConaughey and Timothee Chalamet
- 6:57sat down just across the
- 6:59street on UT's campus for
- 7:01the CNN Town Hall.
- 7:02Then in the viral clip heard around
- 7:05the world, Timothe Chalamett
- 7:07said this.
- 7:08And I don't wanna be working in
- 7:10ballet or opera or
- 7:12things where it's like, hey, keep
- 7:13this thing alive even though no
- 7:15one cares about this anymore.
- 7:16Joining us now to talk about this
- 7:18is Jennifer Baston, Chief
- 7:20Advancement Officer at Austin
- 7:22Opera, and Cookie Ruiz,
- 7:24Executive Director of Ballet Austin.
- 7:26Great to have y'all here.
- 7:28Thanks so much.
- 7:29Thanks for having us.
- 7:29Of course!
- 7:30What was your first reaction when
- 7:32you saw the clip of Timothee
- 7:33Chalamet?
- 7:35Well for me
- 7:35ended up being kind of a funny
- 7:37moment because I was in a situation
- 7:39where a television was going.
- 7:41And on this, it was a
- 7:44morning show, and this happened
- 7:45to be debating the war in Iran.
- 7:48And then the next clip up was this
- 7:50debate over what Timothee Chalamet
- 7:52had said.
- 7:53And as I watched it, I was really
- 7:55surprised to find the same rancor
- 7:57that was used to discuss
- 7:59Iran was passed
- 8:01over to conversation around Timothy.
- 8:04So, at one level...
- 8:05I felt that perhaps we
- 8:07should have a little difference in
- 8:09our opinions around what's going on
- 8:11with the war versus what's coming on
- 8:13with a young man having an opinion.
- 8:15But it ended up making me feel like
- 8:17let's have a humor around this.
- 8:19So it was a moment of
- 8:21understanding that this was going to
- 8:23be quite a debate because it
- 8:25had risen to that level, but
- 8:27also a time for us to say,
- 8:29okay, perhaps we don't share the
- 8:30same opinion, but maybe we can find
- 8:31some humor in this.
- 8:33What about you, Jennifer?
- 8:34Very similar reaction.
- 8:36I mean, the first thing that popped
- 8:37in my head was, ah, how rude.
- 8:40Of course, there are people who care
- 8:42about opera and ballet.
- 8:44I have the pleasure of working with
- 8:46them every day.
- 8:47I have donors who fund
- 8:49these art forms out of their own
- 8:51pocket, out of their earned wealth
- 8:53to make sure that
- 8:55our communities have these artforms
- 8:57alive and well.
- 8:58But to some extent, I understood.
- 9:01Where he was coming from, I think
- 9:03he worded it very poorly.
- 9:05I think, you know, what he
- 9:07was trying to get across was
- 9:09that he wants to work in mainstream
- 9:11popular culture, and that's
- 9:13where the fame and money is.
- 9:16But we also have to consider that
- 9:18ballet and opera at one point were
- 9:19mainstream choices of entertainment,
- 9:22and people literally
- 9:24fought over, society members
- 9:26fought over who was to have the best
- 9:27seat at the box for
- 9:29the opera.
- 9:31And so, you know, these art forms
- 9:32have been around for 500 years, 400
- 9:34years.
- 9:35They're alive and well and thriving.
- 9:38And so yes, I thought it was
- 9:40kind of humorous and very poorly
- 9:42worded on his part.
- 9:44Agreed. So what has been some of the
- 9:46responses that you all have seen?
- 9:47Because this went viral.
- 9:50Been actually a lot of fun.
- 9:52So I think at some level, we sort
- 9:54of have to thank him, because, to
- 9:56your point, Jennifer, these art
- 9:57forms have been around a long time.
- 9:59And so when he threw that out there,
- 10:01a lot folks froze up to our defense,
- 10:03and they were righteously indignant
- 10:05and supportive.
- 10:06And it's just allowed for a good
- 10:08conversation.
- 10:09So what we decided to do
- 10:11was to say, okay, we've got a
- 10:13production coming up.
- 10:14So if you have Timothy in
- 10:16your name anywhere, your first name,
- 10:18your middle name, your last name.
- 10:19And then we afforded about four or
- 10:21five spellings of Timothy,
- 10:23come on to this next ballet, we'll
- 10:25give you a free ticket.
- 10:26So it's been fun,
- 10:28it's allowed conversation to happen.
- 10:30We have about 14 Timothys that have
- 10:32responded so far.
- 10:33My next door neighbor mentioned
- 10:34yesterday his middle name was
- 10:36Timothy and he wants to come.
- 10:38So, you know, it allows for dialog
- 10:40and we can handle it.
- 10:42Are you gonna let the next door
- 10:43neighbors Timothy come?
- 10:44You bet, if he shows
- 10:46up, we'll be there for him.
- 10:48But it's, it has been fun.
- 10:49It's definitely had a kind of an
- 10:50accidental positive effect.
- 10:52I mean, it's the best marketing
- 10:53campaign I could have dreamed up,
- 10:55you know, and we're in the middle of
- 10:57selling one of the most popular
- 10:59titles in the operatic
- 11:01repertory LabOM.
- 11:02And so to have this dialog going on
- 11:05and to have people galvanized
- 11:07coming together to support these
- 11:08art forms, I think will only
- 11:10help us sell more tickets and
- 11:12show the world and show Timothy that
- 11:14people care about these art They
- 11:16care about them very much.
- 11:17Do these words hit even harder
- 11:19because they were actually said in
- 11:21Austin for y'all?
- 11:23Well, that was kind of our.
- 11:23Points. Like, you were literally
- 11:25down the street from us at
- 11:27the time. Our building is right here
- 11:28in the downtown area.
- 11:30So, yes, I do think
- 11:32that that was really kind of a bit
- 11:33of irony that was literally on
- 11:35the UT campus when these words are
- 11:37being said. So yeah.
- 11:38Yeah, we, you know,
- 11:41I think every opera company in
- 11:42America posted something on social
- 11:44media and Instagram, Facebook and
- 11:46whatnot, kind of poking fun
- 11:48at what he said.
- 11:50And ours was, you know, the famous I
- 11:51love you so much.
- 11:53We replaced, we inserted
- 11:55I love opera so much and, you know,
- 11:57we said, yeah, Timothy, we're just
- 11:58down the street.
- 11:59To come check us out.
- 12:00All right, Timothy, he knows where
- 12:01to go next time he's in Austin.
- 12:02The comments do definitely bring up
- 12:05the longevity of opera and ballet.
- 12:07What is your response to that
- 12:08question he kind of accidentally
- 12:10posed? Is opera and ballet
- 12:12relevant today?
- 12:13You know, I think that actually was
- 12:15a great opening for us, particularly
- 12:17those of us,
- 12:19Ballet Austin is a producing
- 12:21company, which means we create world
- 12:23premiere work here.
- 12:24Stephen Mills is a producer
- 12:25choreographer and has created 42
- 12:27brand new works in Austin in
- 12:29the last 25 years.
- 12:31So tonight, we will have our dress
- 12:33rehearsal for Marie Antoinette,
- 12:35Vampire Queen of Versailles.
- 12:37So only in Austin would Marie
- 12:39Antoinette be anticipated in.
- 12:42Thought of what would happen if
- 12:44she got her agency back
- 12:46and she actually found a
- 12:48way to gain immortality.
- 12:50So brand new score by Graham
- 12:52Reynolds, brand new sets and
- 12:54costumes, and this idea
- 12:56that we can create interesting
- 12:58new work.
- 12:59Yeah, in a very similar fashion.
- 13:02Austin Opera is also a producing
- 13:03company.
- 13:04I think, we think,
- 13:07of course, opera is relevant.
- 13:08That's why myself and
- 13:10my boss, Annie Burrage, the general
- 13:12director and CEO of the opera
- 13:13company have devoted our lives to
- 13:14producing it.
- 13:17Living composers and librettists are
- 13:18writing works all day, every day
- 13:21that speak and reflect
- 13:22modern stories and diverse stories.
- 13:25Two of our operas next season are
- 13:28modern stories.
- 13:29They've been written within the last
- 13:3110 years.
- 13:32And the one that is opening our
- 13:34season in the fall, of Frenda,
- 13:36is actually being finished up this
- 13:38year.
- 13:39And it's a story, it's an immigrant
- 13:40story, a mother-daughter story
- 13:42centered around Dia
- 13:44de los Muertos traditions.
- 13:45And so it's deeply connected
- 13:48to Austin, deeply connected the
- 13:49people who live here, our community,
- 13:52the community that we're trying to
- 13:53serve.
- 13:54And so yes, of course,
- 13:56opera is relevant.
- 13:57I also think that even operas that
- 13:59were written 200 years ago continue
- 14:01to be relevant.
- 14:02They continue to make us laugh and
- 14:03cry.
- 14:04The human condition hasn't changed
- 14:06much.
- 14:07Our emotions remain the
- 14:09same. We all experience love, loss,
- 14:12conflict, friendships, and
- 14:14those stories that were written 200
- 14:15hundred years ago, I think, still
- 14:17continue to share what
- 14:19it is to be human, and we feel that
- 14:21deeply now as we did hundreds
- 14:23of years ago.
- 14:24Beautiful, a lot of cool events
- 14:25coming up and a lot cool
- 14:27performances coming up.
- 14:28I've been speaking to Jennifer
- 14:29Baston, Chief Advancement Officer at
- 14:31Austin Opera and Cookie Ruiz,
- 14:33Executive Director of Ballet Austin.
- 14:35Thanks so much for joining us today.
- 14:37Thank you. Thanks for having us.
- 14:39We'll have links to those
- 14:40performances at kut.org
- 14:42slash Signal and in the podcast
- 14:44show notes.
- 14:45This is Austin Signal.
- 14:53This is Austin Signal, I'm
- 14:55Jerry Quijano.
- 14:56The Texas men's basketball team will
- 14:58be back on the hardwood tonight,
- 15:00looking to extend their, air quotes,
- 15:02Cinderella run in this year's NCAA
- 15:04Championship tournament.
- 15:06The Longhorns just barely snuck into
- 15:08the field of 68, and it's
- 15:10probably fair to say that most
- 15:11experts didn't expect the Horns to
- 15:12still be around this late in the
- 15:14game. But Texas was able to prevail
- 15:16over North Carolina State before
- 15:18knocking off higher seeded BYU
- 15:20and Gonzaga.
- 15:22Hey, Texas head coach Sean Miller,
- 15:24I guess the horns must be a lot
- 15:25better than their 11th seed
- 15:27reflects, right?
- 15:28The one thing about this tournament
- 15:30that you learn is the best team
- 15:32doesn't always win.
- 15:34It's the team who plays the very
- 15:36best on that particular day.
- 15:39Well, in that case, Texas is
- 15:41going to need a pretty darn good day
- 15:42to advance past second-seeded
- 15:44Purdue.
- 15:45The silver lining for Texas fans?
- 15:47The two programs have played just
- 15:49six times, with Texas winning
- 15:51four of those.
- 15:53Tip-off tonight against the
- 15:54Boilermakers is scheduled for ten
- 15:56minutes past six o'clock local
- 15:58time.
- 15:59This is Austin Six.
- 16:06This is Austin Signal, welcome back.
- 16:08The Austin dive bar hole in the wall
- 16:10is changing hands.
- 16:12The historic venue has struggled to
- 16:14stay afloat over the last decade.
- 16:16But as KUT's Andrew Weber reports,
- 16:18the new owners hope to keep the
- 16:20Austin fixture alive and
- 16:22well for another 50 years.
- 16:25Whether you've been in Austin for 10
- 16:26years, 10 months, or 10 weeks,
- 16:29you've likely heard of Hole in the
- 16:30Wall, one of Austin's finest dive
- 16:32bars that's hosted everyone, from
- 16:34Doug Somm, Gary Clark Jr., and
- 16:35Blaise Foley, to Townes Van Zandt,
- 16:38and Kevin Russell and his band
- 16:40Shiny Roops.
- 16:41And like the Austin-based
- 16:42singer-songwriter told KUTX last
- 16:44year, if you've ever darkened the
- 16:46doors of this beloved
- 16:47half-century-old dive,
- 16:49Russell says you likely have
- 16:51a Hole in the last week.
- 16:53I remember the night we
- 16:54raised the cover from
- 16:56$5, our normal $5 cover,
- 16:58to $7 and man,
- 17:01it was about a riot out there.
- 17:02People had chalk and they were
- 17:04writing horrible things about us on
- 17:05the sidewalk.
- 17:06One guy even paid the $7 cover
- 17:08just to come in and flip us off.
- 17:13A colorful institution, something
- 17:15that's always been and seemingly
- 17:16will always be.
- 17:18But the bar has struggled to stay
- 17:19afloat amid Austin's growth,
- 17:21the city's real estate boom, and the
- 17:23pandemic.
- 17:24It nearly closed in 2015,
- 17:26then in 2023,
- 17:28the bar, again, appeared to be
- 17:30circling the drain, only for the
- 17:32city to intervene, injecting more
- 17:34than a million dollars into the
- 17:35space and helping it secure a
- 17:3720-year lease.
- 17:37Now, it's facing a new
- 17:39challenge, new ownership.
- 17:41But the new co-owner, Mike Levine,
- 17:43wants everyone to know.
- 17:44This is, as he calls it, a peaceful
- 17:47transition of power.
- 17:48For this place to still be standing
- 17:49after this time is a testament to
- 17:51how much people love it.
- 17:53When you talk to people about the
- 17:54hole in the wall, it's different
- 17:55than when you talk about their
- 17:57favorite restaurant or bar.
- 17:59They care.
- 18:01They care and we feel
- 18:03a great responsibility there and
- 18:05it's not something we take lightly.
- 18:07It's a true
- 18:08Levine is partnering with Courtney
- 18:10Goforth to bring the iconic bar into
- 18:12a new era.
- 18:13Goforth has been a booker and
- 18:15promoter in Austin for more than a
- 18:16decade, working at places like Hotel
- 18:18Vegas.
- 18:19Goforth calls this opportunity a
- 18:21full circle moment.
- 18:22When she first moved to Austin, she
- 18:23would go to Hole in the Wall to meet
- 18:24up with friends.
- 18:25She knows the former managers, and
- 18:27the former owner, Will Tanner, who's
- 18:29retiring.
- 18:30Last week when she was helping out
- 18:31during a South by Southwest show,
- 18:33that peaceful transition was on
- 18:35full display.
- 18:36But it is just, you know, like I was
- 18:38here the other night for
- 18:39one of the South by parties
- 18:41and I was back
- 18:43helping bar back for a second
- 18:45and walked two of
- 18:47the previous GMs and Will Tanner
- 18:49and it feels really
- 18:51good to know that everyone is
- 18:53still just vibing with each other.
- 18:55It's like, it doesn't matter what
- 18:57iteration they came from.
- 18:58Like everyone still wants to come to
- 18:59hole in the wall and hang out, you
- 19:01know?
- 19:01Go Forth and Levine want to keep the
- 19:03bar pretty much the same.
- 19:05There's a reason it's been a
- 19:06mainstay for a half a century, but
- 19:08they want to bring in more shows,
- 19:10more touring acts, more everything,
- 19:12Levine says.
- 19:14Approach.
- 19:15More punk rock, more drag, more
- 19:16comedy, more shaking your
- 19:18ass, more opportunities to
- 19:20gather and be social
- 19:23and have fun.
- 19:24It's just more fun.
- 19:25That really is what it comes down
- 19:26to, right? More fun.
- 19:28We're gonna bring more people, more
- 19:29opportunities to have more fun
- 19:31The bar will be getting some
- 19:33upgrades.
- 19:34Levine says, for one, it'll have a
- 19:35new restaurant in its back space.
- 19:37Levine wouldn't spill the beans on
- 19:39who would be taking that space over,
- 19:40but he did say it aims to be a
- 19:42full-service restaurant with
- 19:43late-night options as well.
- 19:45But the bar will still have its
- 19:46quirks. One thing that's not
- 19:48changing?
- 19:49The side-by-side toilets in one of
- 19:50the bathrooms that have confounded
- 19:52patrons over the years.
- 19:54That's staying.
- 19:57That's the number one question I've
- 19:58gotten.
- 19:59Busty bathroom.
- 19:59You're going to fix that bathroom,
- 20:01right?
- 20:01No, that's
- 20:03the besty bathroom.
- 20:04It's iconic.
- 20:07I mean, there's album covers with
- 20:08that bathroom. We couldn't change
- 20:09that.
- 20:10Levine says the concept is simple,
- 20:12keep what's made the dive bar iconic
- 20:14and tweak what needs to be tweaked,
- 20:16without sacrificing the soul of the
- 20:18bar that's part of the city's legacy
- 20:20as a live music capital.
- 20:22People build bars now to look 50
- 20:23years old. This place is 50 years.
- 20:25You know, you can come in that front
- 20:26room and you can still feel the
- 20:27ghost of Doug Psalm over there, you
- 20:29know. But you know, we're going to
- 20:30be a dive bar and we're a great live
- 20:31venue and we are going to remind
- 20:32people of that and we going to give
- 20:34people more opportunities and more
- 20:35reasons to come.
- 20:36And that's all we can do.
- 20:37I'm excited about it.
- 20:39Levine says the era of saving the
- 20:41hole in the wall is over.
- 20:42He wants the venue to thrive.
- 20:44So a new generation of Austinites
- 20:46can have their very own hole in
- 20:47wall story.
- 20:49And here's to all the ghosts.
- 20:51All the ghosts through the hole in
- 20:52the wall.
- 20:54I'm Andrew Weber in Austin.
- 21:03Oh
- 21:04What's in a radio voice?
- 21:05And who was the right voice to tell
- 21:07a story?
- 21:08Well, that's everyone, according to
- 21:10Accent Unmuted, live storytelling
- 21:12event. It's returning tonight to
- 21:14KUT's Studio 1A.
- 21:16We're speaking now with Nami Saroo.
- 21:18Who puts the show together?
- 21:20Nami, welcome to the show.
- 21:21Thank you so much for having me.
- 21:23Yeah, so there are a lot of
- 21:25storytelling events here in Austin,
- 21:26right? What sounds and voices were
- 21:28you looking to amplify when you
- 21:30thought of Accent unmuted?
- 21:31At the very basic level
- 21:34immigrants with accents telling
- 21:35stories because I am
- 21:37a big storytelling nerd myself
- 21:39and I kept going to a lot of events
- 21:41and not seeing any or
- 21:43enough accented voices.
- 21:44So I was like, I'm just going to
- 21:46start my own. I'm going to do all
- 21:48immigrants with accent telling
- 21:49stories.
- 21:49Really?
- 21:50So you would go to these events and
- 21:52you wouldn't hear anybody really
- 21:53with an accent?
- 21:54Yeah. And you found the gap
- 21:56and you created something.
- 21:57I love this.
- 21:58So what kind of storytelling
- 21:59background do your participants
- 22:01have? Are they seasoned
- 22:02storytellers?
- 22:03Are people sharing their voices for
- 22:05the first time?
- 22:06It's a bit of everything.
- 22:08There are quite a few seasoned
- 22:10storytellers because I've done
- 22:12Toastmasters for a long time.
- 22:14And just because it's easier,
- 22:16I end up getting a lot of people
- 22:18who are interested in telling their
- 22:20story and they have
- 22:22that training a little bit.
- 22:23So it's just easier for them.
- 22:25But then it's also, I do an open
- 22:27call.
- 22:27So I'm trying to tap
- 22:29into communities that I don't have
- 22:31access to.
- 22:32So I do basically a speaker
- 22:34nomination form. And sometimes I get
- 22:35people I've never met before who
- 22:37have zero experience.
- 22:39I help them develop their story
- 22:40and
- 22:41kind of curated.
- 22:42I love that. And I love that you
- 22:43said that you're a storytelling
- 22:44nerd.
- 22:46When you first imagined this
- 22:47project, what did you think it would
- 22:49be and how has it evolved or
- 22:51surprised you along the way?
- 22:52I remember the exact moment
- 22:54when I had the idea and
- 22:56I pitched it to someone and they
- 22:58were like, but why?
- 23:00You know, they just didn't and they
- 23:01were accented immigrants themselves
- 23:03and they're like, what, why does
- 23:05this need to exist?
- 23:06What would this do for people?
- 23:08And so I think it just took having
- 23:10to actually execute on it and
- 23:12then getting the backing off
- 23:13something like KUT to host
- 23:15the event lent it that
- 23:17legitimacy that it needed.
- 23:19And now, it's really cool, because
- 23:21now I see more and more people
- 23:23buying into the idea.
- 23:25And I also hadn't fully
- 23:27thought about, so there's
- 23:29two aspects to it.
- 23:30There's the storyteller, but then
- 23:32there's also the audience.
- 23:33And as I was developing this
- 23:35idea, I started to become really
- 23:37particular that A, I
- 23:39want the stories themselves to
- 23:41be sort of very slice of
- 23:43life, very approachable, relatable
- 23:45stories.
- 23:46And I want the audience to be a
- 23:48mix of not just immigrants, but also
- 23:50a lot of Americans, because I
- 23:52want to sort of demystify
- 23:54a lot of ideas or perceptions
- 23:56people might have of immigrants.
- 23:58And so it's a nice way to
- 24:00bring the community together.
- 24:02In representation.
- 24:03Mm-hmm.
- 24:04I mean that that's why too, right?
- 24:05Yeah. So what have you learned about
- 24:07the power of embracing one's voice
- 24:09accent and all?
- 24:11And you know, when I think about,
- 24:12and this was something I only
- 24:14recently realized, I was
- 24:16like, oh, part of this, a
- 24:18big part of, this is also to solve
- 24:20accent bias.
- 24:21That's a big thing that I,
- 24:23that we deal with, especially as
- 24:25immigrants who come from, and this
- 24:27is in every culture, but when
- 24:29we talk specifically about the U.S.,
- 24:31immigrants who come from non-white,
- 24:32non-English speaking countries when
- 24:35they have a thick accent.
- 24:37Americans, even the most
- 24:38well-meaning ones, will tune them
- 24:40out because it's just their brain is
- 24:42having to do a little more work to
- 24:43process that accent, or
- 24:45there's just straight up biases.
- 24:48So that sort of manifests itself
- 24:50in all sorts of ways,
- 24:52socially, professionally, all of
- 24:54these things.
- 24:55So for me, it was, okay,
- 24:57how do we create an environment
- 24:58where it's exposure therapy for
- 25:01Americans, but in a fun way where
- 25:03they can see themselves in these
- 25:04stories? So that's essentially what
- 25:06this turned into.
- 25:08I love that.
- 25:09So the theme for the event happening
- 25:10tonight here in Studio 1A is
- 25:12Victorious.
- 25:13So how can people attend and what
- 25:15type of stories will they actually
- 25:17hear?
- 25:17Yeah, it's all kinds of stories.
- 25:19So one person is talking about,
- 25:21you know, a certain part of
- 25:23their citizenship interview.
- 25:24One person is talk about climbing
- 25:26Mount Kilimanjaro.
- 25:27So there's all manner of stories,
- 25:30currently we're waitlisted, but
- 25:31yeah, people can come.
- 25:33It's a quarterly thing.
- 25:34So if you're not able to make it,
- 25:35I'm gonna do this every quarter.
- 25:37The Accent Unmuted live storytelling
- 25:39event returns to KUT Studio
- 25:411A tonight.
- 25:42It's free with an RSVP, which you'll
- 25:44find in today's show notes page at
- 25:46kut.org slash signal.
- 25:49We've been speaking with the show's
- 25:50organizer, Nami Saru.
- 25:53Thank you so much.
- 25:54Thank you.
- 25:55That's it for here at the Austin
- 25:58Signal.
- 25:59Rayna Sevilla is our technical
- 26:00director, Kristen Cabrera is our
- 26:02managing producer, and I'm Miles
- 26:03Bloxson. We'll talk with you
- 26:05tomorrow.