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Ep. 17 | Sex Education for Kindergarteners? · The Myth of Education Podcast

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  SPEAKER_01: Sex education in public schools.
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  I believe this is a lie and a trap that strips parents of their
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  rights faster than
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  SPEAKER_01: any other government program.
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  The courses that are called comprehensive health education or
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  comprehensive sexual
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  SPEAKER_01: health,
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  SPEAKER_01: whatever the title is,
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  SPEAKER_01: the content is immoral.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's perverted and it's dangerous.
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  SPEAKER_01: It has absolutely no business in the K through five space.
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  If parents think it's appropriate to teach their toddlers and
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  prepubescent children
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  SPEAKER_01: about the birds and the bees,
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  SPEAKER_01: that's their business.
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  SPEAKER_01: But parents who care about the mind,
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  SPEAKER_01: body,
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  and soul of their kids will opt them out of all state-sponsored
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  conversations about
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  SPEAKER_01: sex.
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  I do want to focus on K through five because we could talk
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  about middle school.
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  SPEAKER_01: We could talk about high school.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I have my issues with that.
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  SPEAKER_01: But what I want to hone in on is the fact that K through five,
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  the age range is somewhere between four and a half and six
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  years old up to about
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  SPEAKER_01: nine and a half to 11 years old.
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  SPEAKER_01: These are children who are emotionally vulnerable.
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  They're cognitively underdeveloped,
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  and they're overly trusting of authority figures.
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  There's this council called the Sex Information and Education
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  Council of the United States.
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  They're the driving force behind most of the K-12 health and
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  sex ed programs.
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  SPEAKER_01: They influence legislation.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're designing curriculum.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they're creating training hubs.
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  I think it's really crazy because parents may not have an
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  understanding or
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  SPEAKER_01: knowledge that this is fully happening.
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  SPEAKER_01: And so I ended up looking up some things about SICUS.
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  SPEAKER_01: And basically their mission is to affirm that a sexuality is a natural,
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  SPEAKER_01: healthy part of life and to advocate for comprehensive sex education.
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  SPEAKER_01: They focus on supporting LGBTQ inclusion,
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  SPEAKER_01: reproductive justice,
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  SPEAKER_01: which we know is murdering the unborn.
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  SPEAKER_01: and preventing sexual violence.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now,
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  SPEAKER_01: legislative actions that SICUS has been involved in includes developing,
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  SPEAKER_01: collecting,
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  SPEAKER_01: and distributing information to policymakers,
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  SPEAKER_01: educators,
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  SPEAKER_01: and the general public.
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  When I looked up some of the links to their training hubs and I
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  filtered it so that
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  SPEAKER_01: it would give me programs for children as young as kindergarten,
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  I chose a training area that was called effective teaching
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  strategies as well as
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  SPEAKER_01: LGBTQ identities.
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  And for grade K through five,
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  the website suggested a program called CARDIA training.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it includes topics such as gender and sexual diversity,
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  SPEAKER_01: gender affirming education and services,
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  SPEAKER_01: equity inclusive sex education strategies,
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  SPEAKER_01: fidelity monitoring of sexual health and minor consent.
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  SPEAKER_01: Can you imagine talking to a seven year old about sexual consent?
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  SPEAKER_01: Dan,
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  what are your initial thoughts to the fact that this is taking
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  place right now in
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  SPEAKER_01: America's public schools?
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  SPEAKER_00: Not surprising one bit.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I'll tell you why.
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  I think we all have been awakened after the whole gender
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  transition thing.
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  And I'm bringing this up because of what you just said about
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  minor consent.
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  SPEAKER_00: And when you're talking about minor consent,
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  SPEAKER_00: if you can consent to have your genitals mutilated,
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  SPEAKER_00: literally,
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  SPEAKER_00: and body changed chemically,
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  SPEAKER_00: then you're granting all the consent you'd ever want to have.
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  It's a major inconsistency with these people because if you ask
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  psychists or if you
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  SPEAKER_00: look up at their webpage and their advocates and those aligned with them,
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  SPEAKER_00: they're going to say,
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  SPEAKER_00: no,
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  SPEAKER_00: no,
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  SPEAKER_00: no,
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  SPEAKER_00: no.
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  SPEAKER_00: We don't believe it's okay for an adult to be with a child.
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  SPEAKER_00: But then...
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  you do see some sympathies and you see them trying to play kind
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  of both sides.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well,
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  SPEAKER_00: yeah,
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  SPEAKER_00: the child has consent for their changing,
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  SPEAKER_00: life-altering sex organs,
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  SPEAKER_00: but not with an adult,
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  SPEAKER_00: but maybe sometimes.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_00: it's really,
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  SPEAKER_00: really bad stuff because this is the kind of stuff that,
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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  as usually universal consensus as being wicked when you're
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  talking about child
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  SPEAKER_00: sexuality with an adult or even other kids.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's just horrible.
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  Yeah,
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  there are cases of kids performing sex acts on each other on
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  school grounds.
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  SPEAKER_01: Again,
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  we're not talking about high school and we're not talking about
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  middle school,
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  but we're talking about children acting out basically what
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  adults have shown them
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  SPEAKER_01: to act out.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because no five, six, seven, eight year old
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  SPEAKER_01: should know anything about that, in my opinion.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that's too young to have that conversation.
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  But I think what's happening on school grounds is that they're
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  singing songs,
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  SPEAKER_01: they have videos,
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  SPEAKER_01: they're reading books that are very colorful,
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  SPEAKER_01: and they're trying to pass it off as if it's innocent.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know,
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  SPEAKER_01: as if these children at this young of an age,
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  SPEAKER_01: they need to be told about these things because it's going to,
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know,
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  SPEAKER_01: I guess make them a more well-rounded,
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  SPEAKER_01: more cultured person.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I just think that that's perverted.
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  Myself,
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  as an adult,
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  I couldn't imagine doing that with somebody else's child.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's criminal to me.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know why this isn't criminal to...
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  SPEAKER_01: have certain books in school libraries,
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  SPEAKER_01: especially in elementary schools,
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  SPEAKER_01: that have these images and pictures and gay parades and things like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: For children, that stuff is pornography.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just drawn in a cartoonish way.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_00: there's no purpose for being in there,
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  but it kind of made a lot more sense for me when I started
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  digging into this a
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  SPEAKER_00: little bit and finding out where did this shift come from?
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  SPEAKER_00: Because I went to school,
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  SPEAKER_00: I would have been this age in the early 80s,
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  SPEAKER_00: and it was very different than what it is now.
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  SPEAKER_00: But it was still a changing from when sex has started,
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know,
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  SPEAKER_00: back in the 60s with Mary Calderon,
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  SPEAKER_00: the former chief medical officer with Planned Parenthood,
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  SPEAKER_00: became the director,
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  SPEAKER_00: the founder of the SICUS group.
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  SPEAKER_00: She was behind this shift from sex education,
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  SPEAKER_00: meaning biology and study of the science of sex,
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  SPEAKER_00: into sexuality education,
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  SPEAKER_00: which sounds subtle and maybe even synonymous,
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  SPEAKER_00: but it's not.
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  SPEAKER_00: Sexuality is human behavior.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so if we're talking about human behavior,
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  then now we're talking maybe somebody likes to have sex if
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  they're a child or maybe
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  SPEAKER_00: they want to explore.
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  SPEAKER_00: So you start getting into these clear moral conflicts with most religious
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  SPEAKER_00: backgrounds,
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  which is why Mary Calderon went around to churches to try to
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  get this going back in
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  SPEAKER_00: the 60s and unfortunately was very successful with it,
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  SPEAKER_00: I think.
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  Don't even get me started when it comes to Christians being so
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  out of touch.
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  This is a topic that I think probably most Christian people
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  would shy away from.
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  SPEAKER_01: And obviously,
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  SPEAKER_01: when it comes to public schools,
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  we know that these are run by a lot of activists from the
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  administration and school
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  SPEAKER_01: board on down to the principals,
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  SPEAKER_01: the teachers,
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  SPEAKER_01: the counselors.
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  SPEAKER_01: A lot of these people are activists.
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  They're being trained to push a Planned Parenthood agenda,
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  a Seekist agenda in the classroom.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is now a part of
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  SPEAKER_01: the requirements for teaching, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: So thinking about Seattle Public Schools,
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  SPEAKER_01: they created a K-5 gender book kit,
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  SPEAKER_01: and it includes introducing teddy videos.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then there's other lesson plans for kindergartners.
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  SPEAKER_01: But basically,
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  the so-called health education specialist that's in those teddy
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  videos is a gay
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  SPEAKER_01: guy.
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  He's wearing a purple hat and has all the flair and doesn't
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  care what pronouns you
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  SPEAKER_01: use as long as it's respectful is what he said.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have no respect for anyone who talks to five year olds about sex.
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  SPEAKER_01: First graders in Seattle public schools,
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  they can also watch videos about gender lessons that are
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  inspired by a book called
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  SPEAKER_01: My Princess Boy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Moving into the state of Oregon now.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're just kind of over here on the West Coast.
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  SPEAKER_01: This seems to be where a lot of corruption originates from.
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  SPEAKER_01: So in Oregon, this is so crazy.
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  SPEAKER_01: They passed what's called the Menstrual Dignity Act.
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  And this creates the requirement for school districts to
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  provide free menstrual products and
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  for all menstruating students in public schools in Oregon,
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  quote unquote,
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  for all grades.
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  SPEAKER_01: OK, the language doesn't specifically state that only females menstruate.
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  SPEAKER_01: I picked up on that as I was reading it.
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  So it's giving room for girls who think they're boys,
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  but they're not calling them females.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the Oregon Department of Ed,
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  SPEAKER_01: they put out an update in April 2022 because that law,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: that bill was passed in 21.
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  They put out an update in April 2022 that said that the state
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  legislature had to
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  SPEAKER_01: pass an amendment
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  to specify that menstrual products are not required to be
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  provided in early
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  SPEAKER_01: learning and pre-K program bathrooms.
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  SPEAKER_01: And in this new rule that was written out,
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  they defined student bathrooms as a bathroom accessible by
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  students in kindergarten
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  SPEAKER_01: or above,
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  SPEAKER_01: including gender neutral bathrooms that are designed,
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  SPEAKER_01: obviously,
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  SPEAKER_01: for people who are confused.
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  SPEAKER_01: On top of that,
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  schools can also apply for grant reimbursement for providing
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  these free products to
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  SPEAKER_01: students.
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  What on earth would a K-5 student,
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  what need would they have for menstrual products?
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_01: I know some girls might start early,
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  SPEAKER_01: but again,
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  the parents are the ones that are supposed to be taking care of
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  this situation.
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  This is not something that they should be learning about for
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  the first time in a classroom.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, no.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it makes me wonder why the push for this.
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  SPEAKER_00: If you were to ask these activists,
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  these groups like Sikis who's pushing for this and then those
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  that go along with
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  SPEAKER_00: it,
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  SPEAKER_00: what benefit is there?
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  My wife always likes to ask that when there's crazy stuff going
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  on in the world.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why?
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  It's just with one three-letter word is all that you need to
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  ask sometimes with
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  SPEAKER_00: things like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: How would they defend this, Tiffany?
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  SPEAKER_01: I think in the warped mind of a leftist,
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  and I can only say this based on explanations that I've heard
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  because this is not
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  SPEAKER_01: my logic.
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  I think that there are some people who are so insane that they
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  think that these
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  SPEAKER_01: kinds of conversations with children are a good thing.
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  It's making them a more diverse person for them to be able to
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  recognize that they
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  have a friend who's a boy that likes to put on a dress and they
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  just want to make
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  SPEAKER_01: sure that
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  That the kids are not making fun of them and that they treat
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  them sensitively.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know what?
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  SPEAKER_01: In some situations, bullying is a good thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: It teaches you lessons.
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  In 2021,
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  the Arizona law came to be where you can't teach sex ed below
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  fifth grade.
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  SPEAKER_00: They cut it off to where you're talking K through five.
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  They agreed with you,
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  Tiffany,
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  and said we shouldn't have sex ed before that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But not everybody was on board with that.
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  SPEAKER_00: There were arguments against it.
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  SPEAKER_00: And what I remember hearing, because my kids had both.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I had my my kids were in the elementary school in twenty twenty one.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so they they had it early and after the law passed.
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  And I remember people who wanted sex ed for earlier grades as
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  low as kindergarten
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  SPEAKER_00: was that we'll see.
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  SPEAKER_00: A lot of times abuse happens in the home.
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  SPEAKER_00: It could be a lot of times it's a family member.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so if we don't get to them when they're kindergarten,
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  maybe they'll never have enough information to know to go to a
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  trusted adult when
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  SPEAKER_00: they're being abused in the home.
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  So what does that tell you about their view of parents and
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  their relatives and the
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  SPEAKER_00: people that their parents allow them to be with?
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  SPEAKER_00: They think there's a greater risk at home than in the school.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if that's how the statistics flesh out.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think in some situations, the statistics do flesh out that way.
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  SPEAKER_01: Children are oftentimes abused by people in their family, in their homes.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's uncle so-and-so who's touched all the kids.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's a situation that we can talk about.
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  But the problem that we have here and what you and I are
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  pushing back against is
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  SPEAKER_01: now you're institutionalizing the abuse.
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  Now we're talking about taxpayer dollars being poured into an
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  institution that is
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  SPEAKER_01: now peddling pedophilia,
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  SPEAKER_01: peddling pornography.
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  SPEAKER_01: They are teaching a child that it is normal.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is the problem that I have.
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  And the pushback that I would give for an argument such as the
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  one that you just
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  SPEAKER_01: posed that would be coming from a leftist of saying,
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  SPEAKER_01: well,
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  SPEAKER_01: we just want them to have an awareness.
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  SPEAKER_01: And if there's things going on at home,
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  SPEAKER_01: we do want them to be able to have a trusted adult to come to.
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  SPEAKER_01: To me, that's grooming.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the suggestion is,
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  that a child is being abused at home,
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  to lead with that,
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  to me,
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  that makes you a pervert.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't think that you should assume that.
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  If a child is acting out in a certain way,
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  then you can get a social worker involved.
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  SPEAKER_01: There is a process.
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  But I don't think there's any process that should involve
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  introducing sex to
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  children in an environment where all their friends are and
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  they're turning into
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  SPEAKER_01: this cool thing to do and let's play a game around it.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that's sick.
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  You should be ashamed if you're an educator and you want to
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  talk about sex for fun
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  SPEAKER_01: with a six-year-old.
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  There's statistics out there in the news that one in seven
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  children report being
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  SPEAKER_00: sexually abused in public schools.
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  SPEAKER_00: And if that's correct,
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  then there's an argument to be made that there's more of a risk
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  in school than
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  SPEAKER_00: there is at the home.
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  SPEAKER_00: But even if that's not the case,
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  SPEAKER_00: even if that's wrong or inflated and there is still a risk there,
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  SPEAKER_00: to your point,
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  SPEAKER_00: how is showing kids a transgender,
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  SPEAKER_00: gay,
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  SPEAKER_00: queer porn book going to help them identify a sexual assault in the home?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the argument doesn't go far enough for them.
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  So they're saying we need to equip these kids with enough
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  knowledge so they know
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  SPEAKER_00: they're being assaulted.
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  Well,
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  that doesn't explain your crazy having menstrual products for
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  kindergartners,
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  for example.
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  SPEAKER_01: I've seen these videos and I've watched different documentaries.
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  When a teacher is explaining something that's highly sexual or
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  that's gender
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  SPEAKER_01: specific and they're being all...
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  SPEAKER_01: perverted, you can look at the children.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're squirming.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're nervous laughter.
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  SPEAKER_01: Even at a young age,
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  they know that it's not right to just be having these
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  conversations out in the open
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  SPEAKER_01: like this.
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  I would never want to assume that a parent is not talking to
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  their child about
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  SPEAKER_01: these things,
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  SPEAKER_01: what good touch is,
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  SPEAKER_01: what bad touch is.
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  SPEAKER_01: The parents just need to be in control of when that happens,
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  SPEAKER_01: how that happens,
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  SPEAKER_01: the language that's used.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: I think that there is a certain bonding that a parent and a child has,
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  SPEAKER_01: and no education system should be disrupting that.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: No, not at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is definitely an overreach if you're going down to kindergarten.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: Not only an overreach, it's inappropriate.
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  In Washington State,
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  there's this school district called White River School
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  District.
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  SPEAKER_01: They adopted a curriculum that they claim is required by law.
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  SPEAKER_01: So there was a Senate bill which passed in 2019-2020.
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  But basically,
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  they adopted a curriculum,
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  a comprehensive sexual health education curriculum,
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  SPEAKER_01: And it was allegedly required for grades 6 through 12 beginning in 2021.
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  SPEAKER_01: But then it was required for grades 4 and 5 beginning in 2022.
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  And K through 3 are required to be taught social emotional
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  learning instead of sex education.
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  SPEAKER_01: Although no sexual content is required or included for K through 3,
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  SPEAKER_01: SEL includes talking to students about how they feel in their bodies,
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  SPEAKER_01: etc.
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  SPEAKER_01: We know this.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the district's website for White River,
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  they provide an opt-out form for parents who don't want their
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  kids to interact with
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  SPEAKER_01: HIV STD materials.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was the only opt-out that I saw was offered by the school district.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I wonder if parents...
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  even know that they can initiate a process to pull their kids
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  out of these kinds of lessons.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's three states.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's California, Oregon, and Washington.
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  They're required by law to teach age-appropriate comprehensive
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  sex education.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm just going to call foul.
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  SPEAKER_01: Parents do not
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  SPEAKER_01: have to agree with the public school teaching your child about sex.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're still in control of the situation.
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  SPEAKER_01: I would go to court for that.
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  SPEAKER_01: I would go to jail over that fight against the district.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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  the Supreme Court has ruled over and over again for parental
• 17:25
  rights in this kind of
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: capacity.
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  SPEAKER_00: And comprehensive sexual education,
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if people really know what that means,
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: but they're talking about like sex acts in that,
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: right?
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's not like what we had when we were kids.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_00: This is something completely off the rails and inappropriate.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_00: And it really strips it from parents.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  I mean,
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  are parents really saying I don't want to talk about this with
• 17:49
  my kids?
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: So hopefully the school does.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: Shame on them if that's the case.
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  But we don't build our policy based on exceptionally bad
• 17:57
  parents like that.
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  A good parent will be transparent about sex or we pay the
• 18:02
  consequences or our kid
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  SPEAKER_00: just goes and rebels.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we have to talk to them about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you've got to talk to them about it first.
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  SPEAKER_01: You got to be first and then you have to be consistent.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then when a child comes home and says,
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  SPEAKER_01: well,
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  SPEAKER_01: my teacher said this,
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: this and this,
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  SPEAKER_01: you have to be vigilant.
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  SPEAKER_01: Don't blow it off.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: Don't play it off.
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  SPEAKER_01: Loan in and say, well, tell me more.
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  SPEAKER_01: What else did your teacher say?
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: Just be highly interested in what your child is learning,
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_01: what they're teaching your child behind your back.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: Be highly interested in that.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I have heard Christian's speakers talk about this.
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  SPEAKER_00: I know I was privileged to have Josh McDowell and Sean McDowell,
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: his son,
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: who's a bit of a friend of mine at our church.
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  And I heard Sean say that he didn't ever remember the first
• 18:55
  talk he got from his dad about sex.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: because he was too young to remember it.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_00: It was always a subject of conversation so that it was normal.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what we've tried to do in our house with our kids.
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  I would like to think that my kids wouldn't be able to say when
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  they first remember hearing
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: a conversation about sex because it is throughout their upbringing.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not like it's time to have the talk to me.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: No, we've had the talk.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's a long conversation and the parents have to have that so that,
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_00: especially now we know this stuff is happening.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: So it's not just Washington, it's not just Oregon and California.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: We know it's all over the place.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_00: We know it's even the states that regulate it.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: So we have to be actively talking to our kids about it.
• 19:37
  I think that point you made is probably the biggest one of the
• 19:40
  show right now,
• 19:41
  Tiffany.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: Well,
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  SPEAKER_01: I do want to provide a definition for comprehensive sex ed,
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: since you mentioned that a moment ago.
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  SPEAKER_01: I found an NPR article, which is very leftist nonsense news.
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_01: But they basically wrote this article,
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: and this is the title of the article,
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: The Case for Starting Sex Ed in Kindergarten.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: And in parentheses, they put hula hoops recommended.
• 20:05
  I made it three-fourths of the way through the article and I
• 20:08
  wasn't quite sure what
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_01: the hula hoop reference was.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure in a dark mind they get it, but I don't get it.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: So here's the definition that they came up with for comprehensive sex ed.
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  SPEAKER_01: A science-based
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  culturally and age appropriate set of lessons that start in
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  early grades and go
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: through the end of high school.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: It covers sexuality,
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: human development,
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: sexual orientation and gender,
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: bodily autonomy and consent,
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_01: as well as relationship skills and media literacy.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: Your thoughts on that definition?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's just too much.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we're going way down far afield.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_00: They're smuggling ideology as well.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: As soon as they bring up gender,
• 20:50
  they're throwing their cards a little bit because that's an
• 20:53
  activist type of thing.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's not something that a kid needs to know about.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_00: Not science.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's politics, really, right?
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: So they're smuggling in a worldview and an ideology here.
• 21:08
  And that might be the driving force or it's just what they
• 21:11
  really believe in.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's coming in either way.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's inappropriate.
• 21:15
  It's the realm of the parents and comprehensive is just their
• 21:18
  way to be able to
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_00: package something much,
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_00: much larger and much more radical than what should be there.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I do want to leave a lot of links in the show notes for parents.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: I want you to click on the links,
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: read the information,
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: do your own research,
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: learn whether or not your school district allows for opt-out.
• 21:41
  I really think that everybody should have to opt-in because if
• 21:44
  parents were
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: required to opt their kids in,
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_01: if the kids weren't automatically opted in,
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_01: nobody would take these classes.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody would take this stuff.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_01: Even a raging psycho leftist,
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: if you have any love for your child,
• 21:55
  you're not going to want them to be looking at cartoon penises
• 22:01
  in the first grade
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: and normalizing talks about genitalia and gender.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: It just doesn't make moral sense.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't make logical sense.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't make emotional sense for all the SEL people.
• 22:15
  Like this is going to make you an emotionally retarded person
• 22:18
  if you're introduced
• 22:19
  SPEAKER_01: to sex too early.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: It just is.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: I can put information out there, but will anybody read it?
• 22:25
  SPEAKER_01: Will they absorb it?
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_01: Will they believe it?
• 22:27
  And will they put into practice protecting children from
• 22:31
  information and images and
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: discussions like this?
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: Your closing thoughts.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: Well,
• 22:36
  I think this is just yet another area where parents need to be
• 22:40
  in charge and to
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: push back.
• 22:43
  So we see a diversity in different kinds of inappropriateness
• 22:47
  in schools with sex ed.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: And so pay attention to what's being taught.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: And when you're having conversation with your kids,
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: make sure you're finding out what they're hearing at school.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: and just guide them through it.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: In some ways,
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: as dark and as bad as the stuff that they may hear in school may be,
• 23:08
  it's a wonderful chance for you to be able to have a teaching
• 23:11
  opportunity and show
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: them the contrast of the glorious Christian worldview that we have.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_00: So use it as a teaching lesson.
• 23:21
  Use it to be able to show them how we're different and we're
• 23:24
  raised to live a better way.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_00: Amen.
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