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Masters Of The Guitar Gathering In A Tyranny Of Tone With Nrian Tarquin · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: Hey, I want to thank you for checking out the podcast,
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  Speaker 1: your exploration. Hi, is this Brian? How are you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Good.
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  Speaker 3: How are you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely fantastic. Do you have a couple of moments to
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  Speaker 1: talk about this brand new collection of music?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God, dude, this is quite the experience. Did
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  Speaker 1: you go into it knowing how effective.
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  Speaker 3: It was going to be?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you never know when you kind of, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you get a lot of people in and, uh, you
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  Speaker 2: know how it's going to come out. I'm very pleased
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  Speaker 2: the way it came out, but you know, it's, uh,
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  Speaker 2: It's always kind of a gamble when you're putting it
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  Speaker 2: all together, especially it was put together over a couple
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  Speaker 2: of years. But I'm absolutely thrilled with the outcome.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's the one thing that always surprises me about
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  Speaker 1: listeners and stuff like that. They can go through an
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  Speaker 1: album in less than an hour, but yet it takes
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  Speaker 1: years in order to put it together. And I wish
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  Speaker 1: that they would find that place in their heart to
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  Speaker 1: respect those years that you took in order to give
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  Speaker 1: them their moment.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's tough it's tough because you know today
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  Speaker 2: especially today we live uh you know in a world
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  Speaker 2: that's extremely uh you know uh tension span is very
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  Speaker 2: low so you gotta gotta get everybody to uh get
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  Speaker 2: on board and and stay on board especially with um
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  Speaker 2: instrumental music.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's it's always a little tough so.
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  Speaker 2: Uh Um, but you know, hopefully people take the time
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  Speaker 2: and listen to it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I got so addicted to instrumental music on the
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  Speaker 1: guitars way back in the 1990s when I would go
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  Speaker 1: into this, this concept album section as though as Ernie's
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  Speaker 1: records and tapes used to call it because it was,
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  Speaker 1: it was instrumental music and who was listening to this?
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  Speaker 1: I was, and I got addicted to it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. It's great.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it really, you know, if you do it right,
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  Speaker 2: it tells a story. So it's so it's it's great.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm glad you're enjoying it.
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  Speaker 1: So when you when you were working with Joe Satriani,
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  Speaker 1: the one the one thing I'll never forget when we
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  Speaker 1: were together was the fact that he loves his Star
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  Speaker 1: Wars figures. Did he bring any any with him when
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  Speaker 1: he was in the studio?
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  Speaker 2: He didn't do it in the studio because he was
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  Speaker 2: on tour and I've worked with him a couple of
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  Speaker 2: times like this. And so in the lockdown, we did
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  Speaker 2: a song called Speed of Sound and then we.
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  Speaker 3: Did this one, Tyranny of Tone. And no, he he
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  Speaker 3: he did it. We did it virtually.
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  Speaker 2: So he sent me the the actual stems and I
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  Speaker 2: and I blew him into the session.
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  Speaker 1: But see, I love that kind of action when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to stuff because then I can sit here as
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  Speaker 1: I set aside the musical instruments, but now as the producer,
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  Speaker 1: I can sit here and really listen to the moment
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  Speaker 1: and craft something. Do you have that kind of an
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  Speaker 1: experience as well?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because, you know, it's very interesting because when you
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  Speaker 2: bring in the tracks, you have more time to kind
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  Speaker 2: of listen to it and no one's rushed with the session.
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  Speaker 3: And so... And also, I think as the as the.
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  Speaker 2: Guest, as the player, you're not rushed with the session.
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  Speaker 3: And so you can actually, you know, take time.
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  Speaker 2: To do the solo as well, as opposed to being,
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  Speaker 2: you know, on the clock and got to get somewhere else.
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  Speaker 3: And so forth.
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  Speaker 1: What is that like for you, though? Are you putting
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  Speaker 1: on the earphones? Are you sitting there with them? Because
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  Speaker 1: every engineering studio has got the best damn speakers on
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  Speaker 1: the planet. Do you sit there with with no phones
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  Speaker 1: on or do you put them on?
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  Speaker 2: I don't really use phones at all, to be honest
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  Speaker 2: with you. I just mix from my setup. I have
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  Speaker 2: an old-school recording studio, so I mix digital with analog,
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  Speaker 2: so I have my JBLs. And so I go through everything,
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  Speaker 2: you know, through the desk, you know, it's so it's
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  Speaker 2: it's probably a much different experience than actually listening right through,
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  Speaker 2: you know, from the computer.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: You brought up analog and right away I'm having all
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  Speaker 1: these flashbacks of when we would just get the pancakes
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  Speaker 1: in and then we would have to do everything from
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  Speaker 1: that point forward. It didn't come in with a little,
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  Speaker 1: you know, anything around it. You had to work that pancake.
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  Speaker 1: And if you did it wrong. Oh, God, that was
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  Speaker 1: wasted money out the door that fast.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's right. Yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: So when you've got a song like Tyranny of Tone,
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  Speaker 1: the thing is, is that how do you keep it
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  Speaker 1: on the equal grounds that you did? Because it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: sound like a battle of the bands at all. You
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  Speaker 1: just sit there and you take it in like we're
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  Speaker 1: receiving it as listeners.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, basically, that's what I did.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I tried what I did is I tried
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  Speaker 2: to tell a story through the songs and it comes
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  Speaker 2: through the sequencing as well of the songs on the album. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you kind of start out, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: introducing kind of.
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  Speaker 3: The album and then you you kind of like.
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  Speaker 2: Gradually, you know, move forward and tell the story and
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  Speaker 2: then end, you know, with, you know, kind of an
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  Speaker 2: appropriate song.
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  Speaker 1: Do you find yourself thinking about that light show while
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  Speaker 1: you're doing it? Because I mean, when you're looking at
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  Speaker 1: Adam Smasher with Bumblefoot, right away, my mind goes, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my God, I can I know exactly what lights I
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  Speaker 1: would be using on this one.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, not so much with lights, you know. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about my, you know, the ears, the tone,
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  Speaker 2: what fits, you know, the music and, you know, how
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to mix it and what I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: use on each of the tracks.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know, I kind of like do all of that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and get it going.
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  Speaker 2: Because what I had originally done with the album is
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  Speaker 2: I recorded it all the basic tracks on, um, two
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  Speaker 2: inch tape.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And then, um, I transferred it over to digital and then, uh,
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  Speaker 2: basically flew in any of the other tracks, you know,
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  Speaker 2: that I was getting from the guests. And then I'd
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  Speaker 2: mix it down to a quarter inch.
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  Speaker 3: Um, and, and.
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  Speaker 2: Then, and then from quarter inch tape, uh, I set
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  Speaker 2: the quarter inch masters to, um, To actually Dave Glasser
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  Speaker 2: over an air show mastering. And then he basically from
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  Speaker 2: that point took it and mastered it right off of tape.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. When you do that final little mix
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  Speaker 1: before you send it to the engineer, or to the
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  Speaker 1: mixer and the master, the thing is that I always
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  Speaker 1: felt that that was the most protective time. It was
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  Speaker 1: how I touched it, how I touched the box, how
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  Speaker 1: I put it in the box. I mean, you go
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  Speaker 1: through this moment where you're like, you're the big protector
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  Speaker 1: of the project here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know what? The huge difference is when you're
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  Speaker 2: listening through... You know, and you can compare it when
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  Speaker 2: you're listening to it live as you're mixing it. And
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  Speaker 2: then you play it back from tape, you hear how
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  Speaker 2: much difference it is and how much warmer it is
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  Speaker 2: and how other instruments are, you know, mixed together and
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  Speaker 2: congealed together.
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  Speaker 3: It's really nice, actually.
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  Speaker 1: Do you find yourself ever just walking up to somebody
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  Speaker 1: who's got these earbuds on and just go, can you
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  Speaker 1: please listen to them through real speakers? I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: understand what you've got going on there is pretty personal.
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  Speaker 1: But my God, you're missing out on a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, I feel like it. I tell
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  Speaker 3: my kids that all the time.
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  Speaker 2: They're in their 20s, and so they're with the earbuds
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  Speaker 2: and everything. But, you know, the music that they're listening
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  Speaker 2: to is not this. So, you know, they're listening to
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  Speaker 2: things that were meant to. They're all, you know, done
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  Speaker 2: in the box and all.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is definitely one of those collections of music
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  Speaker 1: that I always call it head music. In other words,
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  Speaker 1: I know when I sit down to write or when
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  Speaker 1: I do the research and things like this, it gives
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  Speaker 1: me that opportunity to just basically, I don't have to
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  Speaker 1: check in with anything else in the world but this music.
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  Speaker 1: And you got a song here, Intergalactic Burner with Kulik
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  Speaker 1: that just blows me away because it just feels priceless.
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  Speaker 1: And when was the last time that we felt that
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  Speaker 1: way about music?
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  Speaker 3: It's priceless. Yeah, I'm really glad.
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  Speaker 2: I'm very happy that the way that came out, that's really,
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  Speaker 2: you know, a nod to Jeff Beck from the 70s.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like blow by blow. So it's it's actually great.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm really pleased. And, you know, Bruce Kulik,
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  Speaker 2: you don't you know, he's a great guy. You don't
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  Speaker 2: really associate him with this kind of music. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the more you and everybody associates him with Kiss, but
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  Speaker 2: he really came through and it was a great it
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  Speaker 2: was a great deal.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it just it really showcases the showmanship or or
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  Speaker 1: as Ian Anderson once told me from Jethro Tull, I
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  Speaker 1: am a craftsman.
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  Speaker 3: I write not songs. I build memories.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going, yep, you do.
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  Speaker 3: You got it.
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  Speaker 1: You mastered it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Basically, I consider myself like a painter.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. You know, and and, you know, as an artist
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  Speaker 2: like that, where you have a canvas and you're putting
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  Speaker 2: all of these different tones and sounds on the canvas
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  Speaker 2: and getting the final.
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  Speaker 3: Mix and everything. It's, you know, I consider artwork more.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't move. We've got a ton of music to
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  Speaker 1: still talk about when it comes to Brian Tarquin. Charity
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  Speaker 1: of Tone. It's just the beginning of this brand new
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  Speaker 1: project and a lot more is on the way as
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  Speaker 1: we break it down right now with Brian Tarquin. What
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  Speaker 1: was it like for you to be with Eric Johnson?
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  Speaker 1: Cause he's a painter as well. The two of you together.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my God.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was great. That was for my last record,
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  Speaker 3: Beyond the Warrior's Eyes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Song would be perfect for him.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, what I try to do is I,
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  Speaker 2: you know, compose these songs and.
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  Speaker 3: Really in the vein of the artist's styles.
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  Speaker 2: And so, you know, I'll write this for Joe and
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  Speaker 2: I'll write that for Bumblefoot and the other one for,
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  Speaker 2: you know, for Bruce and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got to do your homework as well when
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  Speaker 1: you're putting these songs together. I mean, you've got to
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  Speaker 1: go in there and really listen beyond sound, as I
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  Speaker 1: call it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know these guys' styles anyway, you know, because,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm familiar with all of them.
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  Speaker 3: That's why, you know, I.
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  Speaker 2: Actually bring them on into the fold and doing these records.
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  Speaker 2: So I would just, you know... kind of understand where
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  Speaker 2: you're coming. Sometimes I push them a little bit out
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  Speaker 2: of their element. I mean, song, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 2: like Steve Hackett song, you know, that's not really Genesis.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I was going to say Steve Hackett with, with, with,
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  Speaker 1: with the song that you guys did. I mean, this
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  Speaker 1: right here is like, really? You captured a moment. And
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  Speaker 1: I know that 50 years from now, people are going
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  Speaker 1: to be going.
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  Speaker 3: They were there. They work together.
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  Speaker 1: This was the collaboration, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was really happy to work with him because
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  Speaker 2: he's got a lot of different styles. And his styles
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  Speaker 2: are really terrific. And from Genesis to his solo stuff
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  Speaker 2: to what he did.
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  Speaker 3: In the 80s with GTR. So I think that.
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  Speaker 2: He's really, really, you know, a broad guitarist. And so
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  Speaker 2: I pushed him out a little bit on this one,
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  Speaker 2: though I thought he would like it.
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  Speaker 3: And, yeah, he went for it.
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  Speaker 2: Just kind of like I did with the Bruce, pushing
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  Speaker 2: him a little bit out of his element with, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Intergalactic Burn.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've got to love watching them. I always
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  Speaker 1: call that popping. When they do something that they're not
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  Speaker 1: used to, and when it's over, you sit there and
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  Speaker 1: just watch them go, damn, damn.
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  Speaker 3: Where'd that one come from? Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now, whose idea was it to add the kind of
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  Speaker 1: an EDM edge to the Steve Hackett song? Because that
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  Speaker 1: really gives it a texture. And, of course, my mind
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  Speaker 1: is going, there's going to be jocks all over this
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  Speaker 1: planet that are going to take that EDM beat and
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  Speaker 1: make it their own.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, that basically, you know, that was my deal. Really? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and I like....
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  Speaker 2: A lot of those kind of, you know, I like
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  Speaker 2: the chemical brothers and, you know, the prodigy from the
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  Speaker 2: nineties and they were great. And so I thought, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, maybe I'll just take, you know, some interesting stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I put the, uh, syncopated synth bass in there, you know,
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  Speaker 2: really kind of lending itself from Jan Hammer. Oh.
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  Speaker 3: And, um, so, you know, I was always a huge fan.
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  Speaker 2: Of Jan Hammer and Jeff Beck, you know, uh, cause
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  Speaker 2: they really kind of wrote the book of doing instrumental music. So,
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  Speaker 2: I think that, yeah, it was kind of like a hybrid,
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  Speaker 2: that particular song.
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  Speaker 1: Were you cruising down the highway, maybe the 405 or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that in the L.A. area when you were
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  Speaker 1: with Doug Rappaport with Ubermensch?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, no. You know, it's funny.
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  Speaker 2: I was introduced to Doug through Bumblefoot from Ron.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. And Ron said, you should have him on the album.
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  Speaker 3: He's great.
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  Speaker 2: So I had this track that I thought would be
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  Speaker 2: good for his style. Again, maybe pushing him a little
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  Speaker 2: out of that style. And, you know, because it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of like the syncopated drums and everything.
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  Speaker 3: So I.
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  Speaker 2: hadn't come in he he did such a great job
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  Speaker 2: you know on and i was really i was really happy.
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  Speaker 1: Now where do you work the music in the way
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  Speaker 1: because i mean there's one of the things that i
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  Speaker 1: that i love to do is i like to promote
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  Speaker 1: people creating their list and adding it to it but
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  Speaker 1: then i've heard the stories also that that uh spotify
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  Speaker 1: doesn't do what they need to do for the artist
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  Speaker 1: how do you want people to find your music do
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  Speaker 1: you want them to go to iheart to apple where
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  Speaker 1: do you want them to find.
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  Speaker 3: You I think wherever they want, whatever DSP they like,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: They can go, you know, I mean, the thing about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, music like this and even like metal and
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  Speaker 2: all of that kind of music fusion, you know, Spotify
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  Speaker 2: is a difficult spot for that, you know, because.
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  Speaker 3: You know, Spotify is really catering to, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, Gen Z and, you know, millennials and stuff. And
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  Speaker 2: so they're not catering, you know, they're catering to the
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  Speaker 2: flavor of the month, really. And they're not catering to
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  Speaker 2: really this type of music.
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  Speaker 3: But, you know.
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  Speaker 2: With that said, people do find me on Spotify and
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  Speaker 2: Pandora's really well and all of those places. And Apple
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  Speaker 2: a little less so. But where anybody wants to go
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  Speaker 2: and do it is fine.
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  Speaker 1: Is the song Beyond the Warrior's Eyes, that's got to
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  Speaker 1: be a song written about yourself or felt with yourself
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  Speaker 1: because it's like we see you as the warrior, the
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  Speaker 1: one that's stepping out there and finding the path for
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  Speaker 1: those that will follow. And it's like we're getting to
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  Speaker 1: see your inside through that song.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I did that song really as, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because it was a fusion song off of my last record.
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  Speaker 3: And that featured Jean-Luc Ponte. which I was really happy
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  Speaker 3: to work with him because again, he was.
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  Speaker 2: Another, you know, um, you know, he, he was a
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  Speaker 2: pioneer of fusion. Um, he was with Zappa, he was with, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Mahavishnu orchestra. So I kind of, that was
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  Speaker 2: kind of a nod for those days of them. And, um,
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  Speaker 2: beyond the warrior's eyes, because I did that album for, um,
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  Speaker 2: you know, uh, you know, basically warriors for veterans, um,
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  Speaker 2: dedicated to them so that's kind of where the whole
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  Speaker 2: title you know.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of stems from I was with a music fanatic
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  Speaker 1: over the weekend and we were jamming out to the
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  Speaker 1: songs and he looked at me with as serious as
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  Speaker 1: all can be. And he says, Brian is the Lewis
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  Speaker 1: and Clark of our time. And I, and I looked
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: at him and I said, as in like discovering the West,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: he says, yeah, let me put it this way. Lewis
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: and Clark, Lennon and McCartney, Brian.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: And I went, Oh shit.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Now I get it now because yeah, because you're so
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: willing to explore where other people go.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: I'll get around to it.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Not you. You go for it. Yeah, I'll go for it.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: You know, when I feel when I feel comfortable about everything,
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: you know, and comfortable about the style of music and,
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: you know, have listened to it for a while, I
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: go for it.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: You know, I'll do it.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: And then, you know, worse comes to worse in the
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: studio if I don't feel that it's ready or not,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: not really what I thought it was. And I'll just
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: can it. But I like, you know, I really like
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: that's the one thing I loved about Jeff Beck is
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: that he he would go experiment with the sounds and
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: all of that.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: And he would just change, change up. And, uh, I
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: really liked that.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: So are we going to be gifted with a concert
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: of the future? Like maybe you'll do one, like there's
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: so many different bands now that do it like different
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: seasonal areas where we're going to see all of you together,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: or is this something that we will envision inside our minds?
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Probably the latter. Yeah.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I think, unfortunately, I think it'd be too hard to
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: get everybody up there in the same time and place and,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: you know, to do all the songs. And, but, you know,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: you know, in the future, maybe I'll do a podcast
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: or something live or something like that.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: So we'll have to see how that works out. But yeah.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because the one thing that I've always loved about
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: your music is, first of all, I can go to
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: YouTube and I can pick it up. But the thing is, though,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: there's a side of my creative mind that's going, you're
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: not experiencing him live, dude. You're getting a piece of
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: his past. And it's like, okay, I want him live.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know it's and these projects I'd love
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: to do live. It's always a little hard with these
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: type of projects because there's so many people involved and
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: so many things involved that I'm not really sure that,
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: you know, it's just so difficult in order to figure
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: out how how you would pull it off live. Right.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out everything that you're
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: doing right now? Because once again, you're jumping into everything.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: The door is wide open for you, man.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: They can always go to my site, you know, uh,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Brian Tarkman.com, uh, or my label, bhpmusic.com. Um, and, uh,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: you know, keep abreast of, uh, what I'm doing. I'm
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: actually working on a very interesting new album, um, it's
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: a new age album with Howlanders from Dire Straits. It's
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: going to be acoustic, a completely different, a different path,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: but working with a English, I mean, an Irish singer
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: in Ireland and with a violinist.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: So it should come out interesting.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: That is so interesting that you even say the acoustic
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: because inside my heart, I kept going, You know what
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: we're missing today? We're missing something from the Laurel Canyon
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: kind of vibe that has that acoustic. And then here
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: you're telling me you're going into an acoustic session here.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, because, you know, I liked a number
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: of things that were done by, like, remember Wyndham Hill?
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: And, you know, artists like Michael Hedges and things. And
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: it was kind of really in Tuck and Patty and
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: all that stuff, and it was great. And, you know,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: there hasn't been much of it in the past years, so...
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: It's something that maybe, you know, I think there's a
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: kind of hole in the atmosphere for.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Dude, you got to come back to this show anytime
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: in the future. The door is always going to be
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: open for you.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Thank you. I really appreciate it.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you. And congratulations on this collection of music
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: and these collaborations, because you're keeping everybody out here on
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the conversation. And that's the best part to be. So
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: people can say, Hey, did you check out this new
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: album yet? Oh, and if we can get back there again,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: then we've done it. We've done exactly what we're supposed
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: to do with music.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely. Thank you for your support. All right, man.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: You be brilliant today, okay?
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Thanks, man. Take care.