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4/24/26: Trump Floats Endless Iran War, Lebanon Journalist Triple Tap, AI Job Layoffs · Breaking Points with Krystal and Saagar

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  Speaker 3: It be number fifteen on YouTube this month?
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  Speaker 4: Who's it front?
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  Speaker 5: you're right, we shouldn't celebrate till we're number one.
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  Speaker 6: I like that attitude.
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  Speaker 2: I like that attitude or the attitude Emily, how many
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  Speaker 2: subs did you think we should shoot for?
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  Speaker 6: Like fifty million US or something?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think the only politics people that were
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  Speaker 2: ahead of us, according to Sager, was Candace and might's touched.
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  Speaker 2: them direct competitors, that's who, that's who we got to
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  Speaker 2: be gunning for.
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  Speaker 8: I hate it because whenever we are super high in
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  Speaker 8: the rankings, it means the world is going to complete hell. Yes, correct.
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  Speaker 8: I would much rather drop down into the hundreds, have
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  Speaker 8: the world be a better place and people will be like,
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  Speaker 8: you know what, I don't need to hear from these people.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I feel we are. We have more profitteers here.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently whenever there's a war that people are like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: I got to tune into breaking points to find out
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  Speaker 2: what that hell is going on. So yes, I'm with you, Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: I would much rather the world be a peace and
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  Speaker 2: much calmer and nobody really pay attention to what we
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  Speaker 2: say because it's not that important.
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  Speaker 5: Let's get back to this safe people are watching us,
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  Speaker 5: the safe like forty to seventy five range.
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  Speaker 3: That's where we like to be.
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  Speaker 6: That's a comfortable zone.
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  Speaker 7: The world is speaking bad, but it's not on the
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  Speaker 7: brink of nuclear.
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  Speaker 3: Then we're number one. So on that note, the world
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  Speaker 3: is getting worse.
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  Speaker 5: The Ron conflagration continues we've got more updates there. Ryan
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  Speaker 5: is going to speak to us a little bit about
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  Speaker 5: a Lebanese journalist that was triple tapped by Israel. Emily
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  Speaker 5: is going to take a look at a long list
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  Speaker 5: of layoffs hitting companies all across America. And then we
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  Speaker 5: going to join us to talk about the impending Hollywood
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  Speaker 5: merger between Warner Brothers in paramount that the Warner Brothers
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  Speaker 5: shareholders just approved for eighty one billion dollars, and perhaps
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  Speaker 5: a few fun stories at the end, and some aim
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  Speaker 5: a questions, But Crystal, where are we at right now
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  Speaker 5: with the Iran war?
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  Speaker 6: That's a fantastic question.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, great question, No, I mean, I guess
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  Speaker 2: the latest tactic from Trump has been to continue to
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  Speaker 2: insist that the Iranians are so divided that he had
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  Speaker 2: to move forward with the ceasefire while they get their
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  Speaker 2: act together. There's rumors that Gollibov has resigned or been
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  Speaker 2: pushed off of the negotiating team. I don't know that
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  Speaker 2: there's any veracity to that whatsoever. The Iranians are very
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  Speaker 2: much trying to project, you know, an image of unity.
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  Speaker 2: Many of them tweeting out the same nearly identical message
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  Speaker 2: about how aligned they are. No doubt that there are
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  Speaker 2: different views and voices internally about whether the seasefire was good, idea,
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  Speaker 2: what the approach should be, etc. But you know, on
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  Speaker 2: the US side, we just had the Secretary of the
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  Speaker 2: Navy pushed out at the beginning of the war, we
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  Speaker 2: had the Army chief of staff pushed out. So you've
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  Speaker 2: got the President of the United States who couldn't even
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  Speaker 2: get a straight answer out of him whether or not
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  Speaker 2: the Vice president was going to be involved in the negotiations,
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  Speaker 2: whether he was in the US or on his way
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  Speaker 2: to Pakistan, etc. So if there is a side in chaos,
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  Speaker 2: I would see that, say that the indicator's point in
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  Speaker 2: the other direction.
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  Speaker 5: Why don't we throw up two clips here of Trump's
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  Speaker 5: latest reasoning. Here, I'm going to play these two right
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  Speaker 5: back to back.
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  Speaker 4: Here.
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  Speaker 9: They would have opened it up. Three days ago. They
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  Speaker 9: came to us and they said, we will agree to
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  Speaker 9: open the straight, and all my people were happy. Everybody
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  Speaker 9: was happy except me. I said, wait a minute, if
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  Speaker 9: we opened the straight, that means we're going to make
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  Speaker 9: five hundred million dollars a day. I don't want them
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  Speaker 9: to make five hundred million dollars a day until they
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  Speaker 9: settle this thing. So I'm the one that kept the
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  Speaker 9: close with total control of it, and it'll open when
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  Speaker 9: they make a deal or something else happens. That's very possitive,
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  Speaker 9: all right.
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  Speaker 5: So Trump claiming, claiming credit saying he's the one that
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  Speaker 5: kept it closed. And then we also have another sot
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  Speaker 5: here where he talks a little bit about Vietnam.
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  Speaker 3: Let's take a listen.
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  Speaker 10: How long are you willing to wait until you get it?
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  Speaker 9: Don't rush me, Jeff. You know guys like, do you
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  Speaker 9: want like for eighteen years? We're in Iraq for many
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  Speaker 9: many years. We're in for all the I don't like
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  Speaker 9: to say World War two because that was a big ee,
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  Speaker 9: but we were four and a half almost five years
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  Speaker 9: in World War Two. We were in the Korean War
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  Speaker 9: for seven years. I've been doing this for six weeks
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  Speaker 9: and their military is totally defeated. They're outside of the
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  Speaker 9: little wise sky ships. I call them the Weiit sky ships.
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  Speaker 9: The little boats that they have running around with guns
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  Speaker 9: in them. Will take them out too when we see them.
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  Speaker 2: I believe the estimate that was posted from CBS news
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  Speaker 2: of how much of the Iranian naval capacity remains somewhere
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  Speaker 2: around sixty percent. So that's again from CBS News Trump
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  Speaker 2: regime propaganda outlet. I mean, there's so much you could
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  Speaker 2: say here on the calculation about the blockade. Of the blockade.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, it's not true that it's completely closed.
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  Speaker 2: There's you know, evidence that a number of ships have
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  Speaker 2: been able to get through, although at a diminished rate,
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  Speaker 2: So that is certainly the case. But he seems to
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  Speaker 2: be calculating that that economic stress on Iran will squeeze
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  Speaker 2: them to a greater extent than it will squeeze us,
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  Speaker 2: and by the numbers, that may be true, but their
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  Speaker 2: public is much more willing and able to withstand economic pain.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're used to sanctions, This is existential for
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  Speaker 2: them than our public is. And so that is the
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  Speaker 2: Iranian calculation is that that is not remotely the case,
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  Speaker 2: and that every day that the economic warfare continues, whether
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  Speaker 2: the hot war continues or not, that is a day
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  Speaker 2: in which their leverage is increased and our capacity to
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  Speaker 2: continue on is decreased. So I think that is their logic.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll just say, you know, one more thing on
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  Speaker 2: that economic blockade piece. There was a note in a
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  Speaker 2: Financial Times article that this was Jadie Vance's thinking after
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  Speaker 2: he left the failed talks, that he was telling people like, listen,
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  Speaker 2: we'll put this blockade on and this will be so
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  Speaker 2: difficult for them that they'll be back at the table
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  Speaker 2: ready to negotiate in no time. It's hard for me
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  Speaker 2: to believe that he's dumb enough to actually think that
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  Speaker 2: that's the case. But if that is, that is truly
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  Speaker 2: wild that they still still misunderstand and underestimate this adversary
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  Speaker 2: to that extent.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, and like harming the economy to your point, isn't
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  Speaker 8: really going to do it, because we've been hurting their
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  Speaker 8: economy for decades now. At this point, the real strategic
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  Speaker 8: aim seems to be to basically shut down their petroleum
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  Speaker 8: in their oil industry, which they could do by you know,
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  Speaker 8: if all of their oil tankers and storage facilities get
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  Speaker 8: filled up and they can't then you move any you know,
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  Speaker 8: more oil out than they have to shut down the
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  Speaker 8: entire system, and that is like extraordinarily damaging to its
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  Speaker 8: very expensive. Getting it back up could take months. It's
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  Speaker 8: a complete mess. But analysts differ on how long that
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  Speaker 8: would take but it would take a significant amount of time,
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  Speaker 8: at least four weeks, you know, maybe eight, maybe maybe longer.
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  Speaker 8: And so then the question is does the does the
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  Speaker 8: US and the global economy have that amount of time?
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  Speaker 8: Like Lufthansa just canceled what twenty thousand flights the other
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  Speaker 8: day because they don't have oil. Bangladesh is just announce
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  Speaker 8: this morning it's central bank is out of money because
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  Speaker 8: costs for everything are going up. So you're gonna start
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  Speaker 8: seeing these cascading collapses of sectors, countries, industries, companies, and
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  Speaker 8: so can the can the West and not just the West,
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  Speaker 8: but the whole world? Like with stands six more weeks,
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  Speaker 8: eight more weeks of this like I doubt it? And
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  Speaker 8: also can like if they can get some tankers through,
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  Speaker 8: then they can you know, then they can buy themselves
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  Speaker 8: even more time. But meanwhile they're sending mixed signals. Griffin,
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  Speaker 8: I have this Hegseth thing from I believe it was
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  Speaker 8: this morning, which is kind of contradictory to what Trump
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  Speaker 8: is saying.
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  Speaker 4: Let me let me play this here.
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  Speaker 11: Be America's fight alone. We barely use the Strait of
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  Speaker 11: Hormuz as a country. Our energy doesn't flow through there,
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  Speaker 11: and we have plenty of energy. Just look at the
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  Speaker 11: new Global Congo line headed to Texas, a beautiful pickup.
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  Speaker 11: Europe and Asia have benefited from our protection for decades,
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  Speaker 11: but the time for free riding is over. America and
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  Speaker 11: the free world deserve allies who are capable, who are loyal,
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  Speaker 11: and you understand that being an ally is not a
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  Speaker 11: one way street, it's a two way street. We are
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  Speaker 11: not counting on Europe. They need the Strait of Hormuz
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  Speaker 11: much more than we do, and might want to start
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  Speaker 11: doing less talking and having less fancy conferences in Europe
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  Speaker 11: and get in a boat. This is much more their
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  Speaker 11: fight than ours.
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  Speaker 4: So stop it with your bagettes and think of a bazouka.
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  Speaker 4: Get in the water.
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  Speaker 8: So Trump, We're gonna blockade this thing, heg seth. Actually
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  Speaker 8: this is your problem, uh.
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  Speaker 4: Fox News.
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  Speaker 8: It's the Iranians who are in disarray, like our government
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  Speaker 8: is in public disarray, Like there's no public disarray from
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  Speaker 8: the Runnan government. There's alleged internal disarray. But so if
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  Speaker 8: you're the Iranians and you're watching, they're like, wait do
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  Speaker 8: they so wait are they going to block Are they
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  Speaker 8: going to keep blockading the straight or is it Europe's problem?
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  Speaker 8: Like what what is what is actually going on here?
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  Speaker 7: He also said Congo line. I believe he met Congo line.
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  Speaker 4: Congo line, Yeah, Congo line going to Louisiana.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's also so I mean, we don't even
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  Speaker 7: need to say this, but it's right. I want to
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  Speaker 7: give of that. It's so dishonest to say that because
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  Speaker 7: we don't get a lot of our direct energy from
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  Speaker 7: the Strait of removed, is that it's not going to
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  Speaker 7: affect the American economy. It's just such a ridiculous point that,
• 11:05
  Speaker 7: but it's it is.
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  Speaker 8: Of course, why are you invading Iraq? We've got so
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  Speaker 8: much natural gas right here, like stuff, don't worry.
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  Speaker 2: That was pretty the fracking revolution, that right, true, you know.
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  Speaker 7: But he's just like it's actually really similar. I was
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  Speaker 7: just going to say, actually to what people like Pete
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  Speaker 7: Heikeseth who served after nine to eleven, we're saying they
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  Speaker 7: detested about the Bush era, which is people getting up
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  Speaker 7: in front of a microphone and misleading the American people
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  Speaker 7: behind an official government podium about war. And that's like,
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  Speaker 7: I know that when Trump is riffing and being like
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  Speaker 7: del rash Mede Jeff to Jeff Mason, presumably like he's
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  Speaker 7: constantly in now watch this drive mode, because he's talked
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  Speaker 7: so breezily. It's just completely like he doesn't even have
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  Speaker 7: to switch from one to the other. Everything is just
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  Speaker 7: easy breezy when he talks about it. You know, Bush
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  Speaker 7: who was like switching from We're gonna win the war
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  Speaker 7: to not watch this drive and that was jarring for people.
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  Speaker 7: But Trump is just like constantly in the now watch
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  Speaker 7: this drive mentality, and you can hear it as he's
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  Speaker 7: talking about how the Iranian Navy has what did he say,
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  Speaker 7: wise guy boats, the mosquito fleet that they have prepared
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  Speaker 7: for many years for contingencies like this one, which is
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  Speaker 7: still doing creating a lot of trouble for the American
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  Speaker 7: Navy trying to implement this blockade, Like that's actually a
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  Speaker 7: real issue for the American Navy right now. So it's
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  Speaker 7: all it's especially i think from Pete Hegseth, who's again
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  Speaker 7: served and made this argument about people who were misleading
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  Speaker 7: folks into war. It's really kind of gross to hear
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  Speaker 7: arguments like that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I also want to just dwell for a moment
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  Speaker 2: on the part that Trump was saying about like, don't
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  Speaker 2: rush me. I got all the time in the world.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Vietnam was this long, and a rock was
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  Speaker 2: this long, and Afghanistan was that long. Keep in mind
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  Speaker 2: that number one, he thought this was going to be
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  Speaker 2: over after effectively day one, and there was no planning
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  Speaker 2: beyond we take out the Iatola and you know, a
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  Speaker 2: bunch of other top leadership and destroy a bunch of
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  Speaker 2: stuff and then that's it. You know, we find our
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  Speaker 2: Delca Rodriguez and we're out a year. That's what he
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  Speaker 2: was telling our allies is that it would be over
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  Speaker 2: in four days. Then we were consistently getting this line
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  Speaker 2: from the White House to a whole variety of reporters
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  Speaker 2: that it would be four to six weeks. Well, now
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  Speaker 2: here we are at six weeks, and now he's saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: you remember those Forever Wars that I ran against and
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  Speaker 2: that many people voted for me thinking that I would
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  Speaker 2: not be the person to get us in another one
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  Speaker 2: of those.
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  Speaker 7: Weren't those great?
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  Speaker 2: Let's wrap our minds around being here relatively indefinitely. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's an incredible moving of the goalpost right there and
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  Speaker 2: contemplates that there isn't going to be some quick ability
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  Speaker 2: to come up with some deal and wrap this thing
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  Speaker 2: in a bow and be able to declare mission accomplish
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  Speaker 2: and walk away.
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  Speaker 4: That's a really good point.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and Ryan, when does like europe revolt, Like are
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  Speaker 5: all these countries going to allow America to essentially creater
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  Speaker 5: their economies and just say, oh, I guess it's just
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  Speaker 5: America is doing what they're going to do. Like, is
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  Speaker 5: there a point where the world comes together and says, actually, no,
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  Speaker 5: we got to put this, we got to stop this.
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  Speaker 8: I think you're more likely to get serious pressure from
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  Speaker 8: some of the Asian countries, which who seem to have
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  Speaker 8: actually more sense, interestingly more sense of kind of dignity
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  Speaker 8: and sovereignty than the Europeans do. The Europeans feel like
• 14:39
  Speaker 8: they give off a real sense of like hopelessness and
• 14:42
  Speaker 8: haplessness that they're like, well, this sucks, hope somebody can
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  Speaker 8: do something about this, whereas some of the Asian countries
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  Speaker 8: are like.
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  Speaker 6: The Democrats of the world.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah they are, they really are like democrats. Yes, I
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  Speaker 4: will agree, so.
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  Speaker 5: They'll do a global kneeling with the kentake cloth, but
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  Speaker 5: they're not going to put any limits on this. Well,
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: while we talked about Pete hagg Seth. We do have
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: another clip from our friends at TMZ that Crystal wanted
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  Speaker 5: to throw to really quickly. Why don't we take a.
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  Speaker 11: Listen and well to encourage other countries to be a
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  Speaker 11: part of such an effort as well.
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  Speaker 4: But we're tracking that very closely.
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  Speaker 11: I'm just trembing one anything to that, No, sure, right here,
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  Speaker 11: new members of our press, cool here.
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  Speaker 10: Jacob Bosserman with TMZ DC. We have two questions I'm
• 15:30
  Speaker 10: gonna ask. The first my colleague blast the second. You know,
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  Speaker 10: I've heard you talk a lot about We'll see. I've
• 15:38
  Speaker 10: heard you talk a lot about bombing people in places.
• 15:42
  Speaker 10: And when you give these orders to carry out this
• 15:44
  Speaker 10: extreme level of violence, what's going through your mind and
• 15:48
  Speaker 10: your body? Do you have like an adrenaline rush? Are
• 15:51
  Speaker 10: you scared? Do you feel like you're on a power trip?
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  Speaker 10: Just walk us through and pat us a picture of
• 15:56
  Speaker 10: what it feels that mentally and physically.
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  Speaker 11: It's a very TMC question.
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  Speaker 12: My only thought process is to ensure that our warfighters
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  Speaker 12: have everything they need to be successful, defeat and destroy.
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  Speaker 11: The enemy, and they come home.
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  Speaker 12: They I want them to feel empowered to have every authority.
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  Speaker 12: They need within our rules and within our law to
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  Speaker 12: bring maximum violence to the enemy because war is violent war.
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  Speaker 12: It requires doing difficult things. But I want our people
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  Speaker 12: to feel in powered. So it's our guys that come home,
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  Speaker 12: and they're guys that do not right.
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  Speaker 7: I really like that question because I actually think that
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  Speaker 7: it's the exact type of question the DC Press Corps
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  Speaker 7: and even the left of centered DC journalists will laugh at.
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  Speaker 7: But it's the only time you're ever going to see,
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  Speaker 7: aside from maybe a sixty minutes interview, like six months
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  Speaker 7: into this or ten years later, somebody confronted with that question. Now,
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  Speaker 7: I don't expect him to give a deeply personal, genuine
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  Speaker 7: answer to it, but it's a really interesting and legitimate
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  Speaker 7: question about the human element of being thousands of miles
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  Speaker 7: away and ordering hits. That's genuinely pretty interesting, And so
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  Speaker 7: props to them for asking that question, even though the
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  Speaker 7: even the other reporters who really dislike Pete Hegsett, they're
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  Speaker 7: going to look down their noses at them. That's the
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  Speaker 7: exact type of thing that we should have TMZ in
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  Speaker 7: the press Corps to be asking about.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Heagset dismisses it. As, oh, well, that's a
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: very TMZ question, and I'm thinking, well, if that's a
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: TMZ question, I'm excited that they're here to ask those
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: TMZ questions because you know, we think a lot about
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: humanizing victims, either you know, of our foreign policy or
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: victims in general. But I think to force people to
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: imagine the mind of someone who is in this position
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: of pressing a button and bombing a girls school, for example,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: in Iran, and to contemplate just how monstrous that is,
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: his answer almost becomes irrelevant, although even in his answer
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: he is actually says, Look, my view is us versus them,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: and I really don't care about the violence that I
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: perpetrate against the them that I have. You know that
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I have in my mind that war is inherently violent,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: and that's just, you know, I don't think about it
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: too much. And I think that is probably actually a
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: fairly honest answer.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: And we I.
• 18:21
  Speaker 8: Don't know if you saw it at Trump site, we
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: did this like eight minute mashup of all of uh,
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: not all of it, but a lot of Pete Hegsa's
• 18:29
  Speaker 8: most like just bloodthirsty rhetoric from up on the podium,
• 18:34
  Speaker 8: which it's truly extraordinary to see kind of stretch stretched
• 18:37
  Speaker 8: all together, stitched together.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Uh, it's a good question. Like you talk all the.
• 18:42
  Speaker 8: Time about all this this extraordinary violence that you're going
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: to meet out on these people, like as a human being,
• 18:49
  Speaker 8: how do you feel about that?
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and glorifies it and wraps it in the Bible too,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: by the way, even yeah, even the pulp fiction version
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: of the Bible. So yeah, I thought it was an
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: excellent question. I know Jacob who was asking the question,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: who we had on the show yesterday, by the way,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: who's you know, a fan of a fan of Breaking Points.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: And you know, it was very complimentary the work that
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: we're doing. I know he and Julian have already gotten
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: together our buddies too, So got nice partners with crime there.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: I love that.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: Did they get a follow up question?
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: Not sure? I just starts, Yeah, I don't know.
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: I was going to say, is that structurally? You know,
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: it's when you're on the outside of the government and
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: you're like you're on literally in Fox News or some
• 19:35
  Speaker 7: other place, and you're looking back at mistakes that prior
• 19:38
  Speaker 7: administrations made that are deeply personal to you, it's really easy.
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: And Trump was a critic of these wars and the
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: reasons for these wars as well. It's really really easy
• 19:48
  Speaker 7: to criticize people for lying us into war, and then
• 19:52
  Speaker 7: when you become part of the government and you think
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: that war is a good decision, you structurally end up
• 20:00
  Speaker 7: becoming part of this very real blog where it's almost
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: inherent to the work that you're going to be dishonest
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: because you are trying to justify an end and the means.
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: Then I think some people talk themselves into saying, you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: don't we don't get much of our energy from the
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: straight orfom moves, so it's good. Our economy is fine,
• 20:20
  Speaker 7: this is whatever, it's you know, we can we can
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: sell the war this way by talking to the American people,
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: and it's technically true, so it's fine. But those like
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: actual little technically true pieces of information add up to
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: this really misleading picture. And so I think the contrast
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: between the criticisms prior to this administration and what we're
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: seeing in this administration, which actually does look very much
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: like the time period surrounding the invasion of I Rock,
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: this is really sad.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, if the Washington Press Corps is getting one opt
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: by TMZ in the arenas of class and journalistic integrity.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: We might have some issues, or it might just be
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: the heroes we deserve. One last update on the Iran
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: War from the Iranian side that I wanted you guys
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: to react to. We have a New York Times report
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: on Kamenie Junior and sort of how Iran is being led.
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: Introduce him as Jesse Waters would every time Jesse Waters mentions.
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: Every time he says, the Gaya Tola deadpans, yes.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Uh bringing bringing you can't have You can't let Jesse
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: Waters bring down my journalistic integrity. I'm bringing tm Z
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: and Emily, all right.
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: So the.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: Gay Tola says that, uh, you know, he's injured. He's
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: sending notes and messages to commanders, but the i r
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: GC themselves no longer visit him directly for fearing Israel
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: could track his location.
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: Crystal, what do you.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Make of that?
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's certainly possible.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: There's been a lot of questions about his health status,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: and it certainly makes sense why they are really trying
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: to keep his location under wraps, because obviously they don't
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: want him to also be assassinated. So, you know, I
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: think it also makes sense that this leak is coming
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: right now, because they're really trying to push this picture
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: of an Iranian government in chaos and divided, and so
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: they're like, you know, the Iatola is like barely even
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: functioning and he has to send these written messages, et cetera.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: But regardless of the status of his health, I don't
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: think there's any indications that there's like a real breakdown
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: internally in terms of the functioning of the government. And
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: one of the things that I've said before that it
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: appears to me is that in America we used to
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: have leaders and you know, senior policymakers who had a
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: more nuanced and complex view of Iran, and they sold
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: a cartoon version of that to the public. Now I
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: think the leaders bought the cartoon version that had been
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: sold to the public, Which is how Trump, for example,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: could imagine that just taking out the leader would be
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: enough to topple the whole government, as if you know,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: just taking out some of our leadership here would just
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: completely topple our system. Now, this is a government that
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: is established over a number of years. They have a constitution,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: they have institutions, they have a line of succession. You know,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: after the Ietola was killed, there was a process and
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: procedure to select the next one, and that would be
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: the case even if they were able to get to
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: this the new guy and be able to take him
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: out or get Gollibof off the team, or as Martisan
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: suggested and Trump retweeted, he said, oh, if there are
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: two factions and one is causing trouble in the negotiation,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: so I just kill the kill those ones and leave
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: in place the ones that we aren't having trouble with
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: working with, as if you know, that would just keep
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the status quot and as if that wouldn't change the
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: calculus also of the people who were remaining in the negotiation.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: So you know, I just I see it in light
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: of that. Obviously it's you know, interesting to know what
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: potentially the status of Mashaba comedy is. But but I
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: would see it in light of this broader picture that
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: they're trying to paint.
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: Ran I'm curious what the drop site reporting is on
• 24:13
  Speaker 7: this too, because I know Jeremy has some Jeremy was
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: on the show this week talking a bit about the
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: sort of the real tensions between the IRGC and the
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: government right now. But obviously they're projecting would you say unity,
• 24:30
  Speaker 7: I mean, I know you guys have had some reporting
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: on this. How would you describe it?
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: And it's not quite that simple, you know, as he mentioned,
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: you know, Gollibof is himself and iergies. Even though he's
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: a Speaker of the Parliament, he's himself an IERGC veteran.
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: And there are you know, there are disagreements within the IURGYC,
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: disagreements within the Parliament, disagreements within the Security Council and
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: so on. But right now they seem to be completely
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: unified in a very simple demand, which is that talks
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: don't start until you lift this illegal naval blockade. We'd
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: think it's illegal. Stop and if you want to restart war,
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: go ahead, restart the war, but we're not sitting down until.
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: You lift this.
• 25:13
  Speaker 8: They thought that they had an agreement, as Jeremy reported,
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: They thought like, that's what the Pakistani's effectively told them.
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: And so the big question is, did the Pakistanis play
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: a double game and tell them something that they hoped
• 25:28
  Speaker 8: they could get Trump to agree to but Trump hadn't
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: agreed to, or did Trump tell them in some convoluted
• 25:33
  Speaker 8: way that he would agree to that, and then it
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: you know, pulled the rug out from under it, you know,
• 25:41
  Speaker 8: or was it supposed to be. And this is my suspicion,
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: a pretty kind of delicate diplomatic dance in the way
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: that the statements were rolled out after the agreement was
• 25:52
  Speaker 8: reached and was coming into place.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: And Donald Trump is not for ballet like.
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: He's not somebody who can do delicate diplomatic dances.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: He started to.
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: Even giving the conciliatory straight of Iran truth social posts,
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: but then but then he lost his mind and spent
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: the next seven hours, you know, just going completely bananas,
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: threat threatening, making you know, wild threats about destroying everything
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: that exists and so on and so forth, and so
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: that that unraveled everything, so that that there's a real
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: question whether Trump is physically mentally capable of following through
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: on something that he promises privately.
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: That's so true.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: And I, for what it's worth, Kyle and I interviewed
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Professor Mirandi yesterday and got you know, his perspective on
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: how Iranian's reviewing things. And he was careful to say, look,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: I don't really have inside knowledge. People think I know
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: a lot more than I do. But he said, you know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I asked him about what is the Iranian view on
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: the Pakistanis as mediators at this point? You know, do
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: they feel like they are true sort of neutral art,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: here is their trust there, et cetera. And he's like, listen,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: it's not the problem isn't the Pakistani's the problems Trump,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: The problem is the is America. The problem is Israel.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: The problem is really not with the Pakistani's because yeah,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I mean you think about it, like, and I'm not
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: saying they're they're perfect or whatever, but imagine trying to
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: be the go between with Trump where I mean think
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: about how in the same sentence he'll say two different things, right, Like,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: imagine trying to be the go between said, Okay, Trump
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: said he'd do this, and here's the sequence, et cetera,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: and the Iranians go ahead and follow through. Okay, we'll
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: put on our tweet saying the straight is open. And
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: then immediately Trump comes down and does something completely different.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: So so yeah, I mean, there they are in an
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: impossible situation as far as oh as far as I
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: can tell. Sorry, the dog just knocks something over and
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: everything's fine, though you heard a.
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: Loud crash and we know because he accidentally when he
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: was trying to reach out to Pambondi through direct message
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: on truth Social If you guys remember that he accidentally
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: posted it publicly, and so we know that his private
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: messages are just as unhinged and filled with all caps.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: It's not like he has a private like medit.
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: Deliberative communications like communication style.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: That's that's how he communicates.
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: So you can imagine, let's say he's texting a simonair
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: or Sha Sharif, like what his ideas are like to yeah,
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: to a Christmas point.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: You imagine didn't he text.
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: Messages with Mark Rutta at one point and they were like.
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: Bananas macron right, macron right, maybe him too, but yeah,
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: imagine you're the Pakistanis and you're getting these texts. Imagine
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: your job to take his truth Social posts and tell
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: the Iranians what he's trying to say. I mean, I
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: would just forward the whole thing like what's app style,
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: just like here, maybe it's what you will.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: No idea? So good lord?
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: Like, well, speaking of of negotiations, you know they've extended
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: this Israel Lebanon sees fire, but meanwhile Israel continues to fire. Uh,
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: there was a triple tap on a journalist Amal Khalil Ryan.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: Why don't you tell us a little bit about that,
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: because probably won't be hearing about this on CNN or
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: any other news organization. Let me pull up I've got
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: I've got a video of her.
• 29:28
  Speaker 8: Yeah, if you want to play that, or and then
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: later I can put up the drop site story that.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Did for us. Yeah you want to play this? Yeah?
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it, just got a video.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: Was a she's She was a Lebanese, prominent Lebanese reporter
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: for aloc Bar and Lebanon Let Me Out outfit, and
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: she was a number of other journalists.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Was in southern Lebanon reporting.
• 29:55
  Speaker 8: The car that was driving in front of her and
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: her colleague was struck by an Israeli drone. They were
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: injured in that blast. They were able to get out
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: of the car and run into an abandoned home right nearby,
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: from which they called. They were calling all of their
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: friends and colleagues saying like we're being fired on, we
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: need help, we need you know, we're hurt, we need
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: to get out of here. The entire country and world
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: that was paying attention was following this, and the Lebanese
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: Prime is the Prime Minister of the President like was publicly,
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: you know, begging Israel to stop shooting at her, like
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: let so the Red Cross publicly was saying, we are
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: right here, we are right next to the home, like
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: we need to go in and rescue these women. Please
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: stop firing at us and stop firing at the home.
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: And they wouldn't, And so the Red Cross left and
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: after hours of this, Israel seven hours, Israel.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: Bombed the house and killed her.
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: And eventually the Red Cross was able to get in
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: under an intense fire and pull out her colleague who
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: was alive, but she was still stuck under the rubble,
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: and the medics had to evacuate before they could before
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: they could get her out, because the Israelis were, you know, continuing,
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: continuing to fire insanely. She had been getting threats like
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: leading right up to that, death threats, and they posted
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: the number that was threatening her. Sour one of our
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: correspondents who was in southern Lebanon for US maybe six
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: months or a year ago, Jeremy Lfredo, He texted that
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: number and let me find people should read history if
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: they get a chance. But so here, so here, he said, Hi,
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: my name is Jeremy Lfredo. I'm a journalist for the
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: American publication job site news, and I'm wondering if you
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: have any comment on the threat you sent to Lebanese journalists.
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: Tomal Khalil, These are not innocent people. The journalists affiliated
• 32:22
  Speaker 8: with Hesbela that Israel eliminated were also spies for Hesbela,
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: approaching our soldiers and then informing the terrorist organization where
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: our soldiers were in real time. Similarly, on October seventh,
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: journalists affiliate with Hamas were eliminated because they were intelligence officers.
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: Send greetings to all journalists affiliated with Hesbela for anyone
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: who works for the organization should know they are destined
• 32:45
  Speaker 8: for death. He then adds, I think about the possibility
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: that you are one of them too, and am offering
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: you to find another partner in Lebanon. There are a
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: lot of good people over there. Maronites, Sunnis, Drus and others.
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: Tried to cover their narrow of you're a naive, very naive,
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: and then some weird emoji. Uh so this is basically
• 33:07
  Speaker 8: a threat. Yeah, that's so threatening, threatening Jeremy as well.
• 33:13
  Speaker 8: Noah her what's reached out and the guy told him
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: his name before we finished the segment. I can I
• 33:24
  Speaker 8: can find the guy's name, but we like we know
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: the guy's actual name, and you know, nothing is going
• 33:31
  Speaker 8: to be done to this guy.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Or it's like a guy in the government, Like who
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: is this guy troll?
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: He's like a pro war writer, like affiliated with the
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: like pro war.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: Well they're all pro war.
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: Let me, this is like a Fox This is like
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: a Fox News guy that he's one of these.
• 33:52
  Speaker 8: People who's like affiliated not affiliated with the government that's
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: sort of like a mouthpiece for it.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like.
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: Utterly like just just just a murder of this of
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: these unarmed, unarmed journalists like that, and like it's not
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: even serious, Like she's in her own country first of all.
• 34:18
  Speaker 8: So like even if she was reporting on where the
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: Israeli troops are, which that's what journalists do. They'll say,
• 34:24
  Speaker 8: like this is where the battle is happening, and they
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: tell the public where the battles are happening. But even
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: if that's true, they're in her country. Like can you
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: imagine the gall there to like invade somebody else's country
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: and then kill the reporters in that country for reporting
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: on the fact that you're in that country. It's just
• 34:47
  Speaker 8: such an unbelievable. Okay, I'm just an unbelievable crime. All right,
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: let's see here's Noah, let me see Ryan.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Do you suspect that because we've seen people we targeted
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: based on these sort of like not affiliated sort of
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: affiliated accounts and like propagandistic allies. Do you suspect there's
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: a direct connection between these threats and the murder?
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: Yes, yes, I do think so, especially tracking all the
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: other journalists who've been killed Palestinian jurnals who have been
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: killed in Gaza.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: These kinds of.
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: Threats always foreshadow and assassination, but you can you can
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: map it. That's why we were so pressed to get
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: Abu Baker abed out of Gaza, because all of a sudden,
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: these people started making these threats privately and publicly.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: And that's sort of like when Laura Lumer starts tweeting
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: about someone who needs to be deported or fired or whatever.
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: I mean.
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: Right, And so the guys said his name was Gideon
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: gal Ben Abraham.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: So just no shame happy to respond to the text.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Tell you is I don't yeh feels.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: As also the same as at a Laiar story. You know,
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: he started getting lots of d MS in the same way.
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: And uh, I guess you know, Rafot wasn't press, But
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: it does seem like these press badges are turning into
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: more like, uh, like bullseye targets.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: It's basically press. But yeah, you're right, Yes, they threatened him.
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: They were very clear they were going to try to
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: kill him.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: And then they they do this crazy thing.
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: They called her like, they called her and told her
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: they were going to kill her like and that's a
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: very common thing.
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Like it you'd be surprised.
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: But like raft got calls as well from Israel, from
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: Israeli military officials, and there's no I don't like, there's
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: no utility in calling them unless you're trying to like
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: make sure that maybe maybe they're making sure that the
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: phone that they've been tracking is actually them, so that
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: that could be the Allen's utility of it. But otherwise
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: it's just sadistic.
• 37:03
  Speaker 6: It's just it's part of the terror campaign.
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: And last week they called a journalist I don't know
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: if you saw this story and said we're going to
• 37:13
  Speaker 8: kill you immediately. You can either die with your family
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: or you can run and we will kill you alone.
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: And he said, I'm going to run and so he
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: fled his house, got into his car, and they hit
• 37:30
  Speaker 8: him very quickly with a drone strike in his car
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: and burned him alive. And there's the video of some
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: of this unfolding. There had been a lot of stories
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: of this, of that's happening before, people saying, you know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: the Israeli's calling ahead of time. So they so they
• 37:47
  Speaker 8: called and said we're going to kill you. And it
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: undercuts the idea that there is such a thing as
• 37:53
  Speaker 8: a human shield, because if he said I'm not leaving
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: this house, those those other humans are not a shield
• 38:01
  Speaker 8: like they would.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: They would have thought nothing of murdering them as well.
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: Right and crystal this from Haaretz, Israeli soldiers testified a
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: widespread looting in Lebanon. Commanders know and do nothing, So
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: it seems like they're just totally picking the entire southern
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: Lebanon for scraps as they bomb and destroy villages.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Do you think this is going to have a major
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: effect on the talks.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: I know that Iran was trying to say, hey, if
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: there's no ceasefire in Lebanon.
• 38:32
  Speaker 8: Here I found who this guy is. Let's just wrap
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: that up right, let's do it so we don't leave
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: leave it hanging. So this is from Noah who he said,
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: this guy Gal Gideon Ben Abraham told Noah this is
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: who he was. We don't know if that's true, but
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: this is what the number said. He was his Israeli
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: comment commentator who has a number of YouTube videos speaking
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: on issues around the genocide and Gaza and wars in
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: Lebanon and Iran. I've not yet independently verified that this
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: account belongs to him.
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: So he's an Israeli. He's like an Israeli commentator.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: Basically awesome, awesome, But yeah, I mean, Crystal, how does
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: this carnage and Lebanon affect any potential deal in the future.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, the Iranians have been very clear that, you know,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: if there is a true return to just bombardment in Lebanon,
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: that is going to be unacceptable to them. It was
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: after the seasfire was broken between Israel and Lebanon that
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Arachi tweeted on Okay, this street is open because this
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Lebanon has been this Lebanon seasfire has been secured. So
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: this is always been very central to them. They are
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: very unified in this demand. So I think it's you know,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: I think it's extremely important. There's also reporting coming out
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: of Israeli outlets that Israel's preparing to go back to war.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Obviously Israel wants to go back to war. There were
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: significant meetings at the White House yesterday, so we don't
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: know what the next plans are. But if I could
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: just say, you know, one thing specifically about this report
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: of widespread looting of homes in Lebanon. And there was
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: a video that went or a picture that went viral
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: of an IDF soldier who would like you know, they
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: came in and the village is completely abandoned because you know,
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: anybody that's left there is assumed to be a terrorist
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: and potentially murdered. And she's going through the garden and
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: plucking out the vegetables that have been planted by this
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: family and preparing this elaborate feast in this family's abandoned kitchen.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: And I was thinking about something Gideon Levey's that I
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: think actually in Piers Morgan's show, about how you can't
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: have this long term occupation and subjugation of people without
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: just completely dehumanizing them. And so this behavior is the
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: logical outgrowth of a long term project of dehumanizing, you know,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: not just Palestinians, but anyone that they would see as resisting,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: you know, their project of greater Israel and their need
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: for complete and total security, et cetera. So I think
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: it's that, you know, very consistent with the behavior we
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: saw of id of soldiers in Gaza.
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: It is not a one off. This is part and
• 41:06
  Speaker 6: parcel of what this ideology is.
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: It's it's how humans prepare themselves to do mass civilian
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: damage and like just maass warfare in general. The last
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: thing I would say is Steve Sweeney went on Tucker
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: Carlson Show, I think it was last week. He's a
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: journalist for art, not a place I would work, but
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: nevertheless he told the story of how he ended up
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: getting targeted, so obviously targeted in Lebanon, and I just
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: recommend that to everybody because you see how clear he's
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: press and you see how clear the attempt on his
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: life was, and that should I mean, there's there's basically
• 41:47
  Speaker 7: no way to refute that he was he was being
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: targeted for being a journalist.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: So all right, so we just wanted to make sure
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: we covered that because again, you probably will not hear
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: about Amal Khalil on any other.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Major news network.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Let's move over to some things happening in our country currently, Emily.
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: We've got some economy news and some layoffs. What do
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: we got.
• 42:13
  Speaker 7: We'll start by saying, Marcus have been open for about
• 42:16
  Speaker 7: an hour as we're talking right now, the S and
• 42:18
  Speaker 7: P five hundred is up. So I'm sure that's great
• 42:23
  Speaker 7: news to everybody over in the White House. But a
• 42:26
  Speaker 7: couple of big layoff announcements that we wanted to cover.
• 42:29
  Speaker 7: We can start with this Meta announcement. Meta is going
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: to cut ten percent of its workforce, according to a
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: New York Times story, that's eight thousand employees. They're going
• 42:40
  Speaker 7: to close an additional six thousand roles that were open,
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: and they're in the process of obviously, as the Times
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: points out, spending heavily on AI, so going basically peddle
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: to the metal on artificial intelligence. Another one to cover
• 42:57
  Speaker 7: here is Nike is announcing about fourteen hundred layoffs. That's
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: two percent of the entire company. Comes out to about
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: two percent of the entire company. Shale Ben Frame had
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: a roundup so that we can also pop on the
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: screen Griffin of Nike.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: Meta.
• 43:18
  Speaker 7: Also Microsoft offering voluntary retirement buyouts to about seven percent
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: of its US workforce. Another company that is going pedal
• 43:26
  Speaker 7: to the metal on artificial intelligence, Oracle, has an AI
• 43:31
  Speaker 7: driven layoff, between twenty thousand to thirty thousand employees getting
• 43:35
  Speaker 7: cut again. That's as they're going pedal to the metal
• 43:39
  Speaker 7: on AI. Amazon sixteen thousand jobs cut at the corporate
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: level back in January. Many people will probably remember that
• 43:47
  Speaker 7: they had recently cut about fourteen thousand. Shyl points out
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: just a couple of months earlier at the end of
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: last year. Block massive cuts from Jack Dorsey as they are,
• 43:58
  Speaker 7: they were ones that were basically site AI. They are
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: the ones that really kind of brave enough to actually
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: cite AI. Dell cut about eleven thousand jobs over the
• 44:06
  Speaker 7: last year. So it's you know, the analysis of why
• 44:12
  Speaker 7: we're starting to see mass layoffs are a little bit mixed.
• 44:17
  Speaker 7: A lot of experts look at that and say, what
• 44:19
  Speaker 7: we've seen so far is reaction to a super uncertain
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: economy post I mean, so we have Ukraine, now we
• 44:27
  Speaker 7: have ran but in the process we've also had tariffs
• 44:32
  Speaker 7: over the last year as well, and so there has
• 44:34
  Speaker 7: been just an enormous amount of uncertainty. Now, the mag
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: seven companies are over thirty percent of the SMP. Just
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: think about that, thirty percent of the SMP. And a
• 44:46
  Speaker 7: lot of them are these companies that we were just
• 44:48
  Speaker 7: talking about. So they're cutting tons of jobs. This is
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: the sign that we are now i think, on the
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: cusp of the economy, not just being a reaction to uncertainty,
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: but actually being a direct reaction to artificial intelligence. And
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: this is as of course, a lot of those entry
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: level workers, entry level white collar workers, are graduating college
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: in the spring. Just in the next three weeks here,
• 45:14
  Speaker 7: there have been projection projections we're going to see historic
• 45:17
  Speaker 7: levels of unemployment for recent college graduates. This should prepare
• 45:21
  Speaker 7: people for that to prove accurate in the next several weeks. Unfortunately,
• 45:25
  Speaker 7: that's really where we are.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And one of the points Shia makes there that
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: is very important, and you know, matches with your analysis
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: of where the market is at this morning, is he's like,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: you know, we're kind of used to when companies are
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: doing mass layoffs. It's because those companies aren't doing well,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: so they've got to costs, they've got to trim back,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: and you know, they would like to keep those workers theoretically,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: but they're unable to. That's kind of a landscape that
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: we're used to. But these are companies that are all
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: doing very well, have high profit margins, but they and
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: their stock will go up from cutting this workforce. And
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: this is the terrifying logic of AI is as companies
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: implement it and eliminate large swaths of their workforce, the
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: overall public will be worse and worse off, but the
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: you know, top echelons of those companies and their you know,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: and their CEOs and their top shareholders will be better
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: and better off. So the level of inequality that we
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: have right now is already world historic, you know, and
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: certainly historic in terms of our nation's history. It's at
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: as high as levels ever that is set to skyrocket
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: with the logic of AI, where yes, the stock market
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: may continue to go up and up, and rather than
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: being even correlated to the general success and well being
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: of the American people, it will be an inverse correlation
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: where the higher the stock market goes up, the worst
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: ordinary people are actually faring.
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: And that's because of what a bubble it shows that
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: we're under right now. Like to Crystal's point, if something
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: goes wrong and people start realizing. There's also a lot
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: of circular funding in the mag seven world and AI
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: world in general. So if somebody realizes one investment is
• 47:18
  Speaker 7: looking worse than they expected and starts pulling back a
• 47:23
  Speaker 7: little bit and the bubble starts to pop, we're literally
• 47:26
  Speaker 7: talking about thirty five percent of the S and P.
• 47:28
  Speaker 7: So it's the risks of this big AI project and
• 47:33
  Speaker 7: expansion inflation are really significant and actually pretty frightening. Ryan.
• 47:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we are rapidly, rapidly approaching you know, very dark
• 47:48
  Speaker 8: territory because, yeah, the the.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Incentives are are awful.
• 47:54
  Speaker 8: Companies are always looking to shed their workforce so that
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: they can boost their stock price, so that they can
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: then you know, send out dividends to executives. Executives can
• 48:09
  Speaker 8: then cash out and move on to the next company
• 48:11
  Speaker 8: and do it again. It's like it's it's just a
• 48:15
  Speaker 8: it's a system designed for looting by executives, and AI
• 48:20
  Speaker 8: is becoming the the scoop or the vehicle, the weapon
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: that they're going to do this do this looting with.
• 48:28
  Speaker 8: And you can say, even for the AI skeptics, they're like,
• 48:31
  Speaker 8: I don't actually think it's going to work. They don't
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: care like they will lay off these workforces, take the
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: stock price bump, you know, take their dividends, and then
• 48:44
  Speaker 8: move on. People keep thinking that whether something will actually
• 48:49
  Speaker 8: work matters. What matters is whether it's useful to extract
• 48:53
  Speaker 8: wealth up to the very top.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: And this is and so that's the way it's going
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: to go, and.
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: There's a direct go ahead.
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: M Well, just nobody basically went to prison enough for
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: the Great Recession, partially because a lot of this is legal,
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: but some of it is as dubious anyway. So what
• 49:07
  Speaker 7: are the incentives for people not to engage in this
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: stuff if they know they're going to be fine, they'll
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: get a payday.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And they've all convinced themselves
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: too that it's this existential battle for whoever reaches agi first,
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: and that creates the worst incentives to rush things that
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: are genuinely dangerous to the market. We talked yesterday about Mythos,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: which is the anthropic product that they deemed to be
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: too dangerous to release to the public. But there was
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: a report that a group of hackers were able to
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: gain unauthorized access to that anyway, so clearly it was
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: being kept under lock and key, but not lock and
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: key enough to keep out. And so if they were
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: able to gain access, who else was able to gain access?
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is already the world that we're living in,
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: and there is a direct tie in potential impacts from
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: the Iran War that go in a few directions. I mean,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: of all, you've got the golf economies that are going
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: to be really hard hit. They're already pulling back all
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: sorts of investments. I saw Saudi Arabia's pulling an investment
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: from like the met opera just as another indication they're
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: already they're pulling their investment from live golf. And a
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: lot of what they were investing in was these data
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: centers and AI in a you know, attempt to diversify
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: their economies. So you know that could be significant. You
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: also have these data centers really depend on relatively inexpensive energy.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Obviously the Iran war is creating an energy crunch, so
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: that could be significant in terms of the build out.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: You've obviously also got the grassroots backlash that we've been
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: tracking here trying to slow down the build out of
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: these data centers. But the other pieces with the Iran
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: war The reality is that the race with China for
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: who can get the furthest the fastest with AI is
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: very perilous for humanity. And the same way that the
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: nuclear arms race between the Soviet Union in the US
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: was very perilous for humanity. And the reason we've been
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: able to avoid some you know, mass nuclear war, which
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: is really, honestly quite an extraordinary accomplishment, was through mechanisms
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: of global cooperation. But the Iran War, of the Ukraine War,
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: and you know, other actions are moving us further away
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: from the ability to collaborate and cooperate in some way
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: that we'll ensure that we're not going to destroy each other,
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: you know, some new doctrine of effectively probably mutually. Sure,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: just are some sort of limiting principles that need to
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: be developed globally around AI. It seems very difficult to
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: imagine how that collaboration could happen as harder and harder
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: draw lines are being drawn and the Iran War is
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: exacerbating those tensions.
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and interestingly, Mike Flynn.
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: Has now kind of joined Joe Kent in pushing this
• 52:04
  Speaker 8: idea that the way out is just to kind of
• 52:07
  Speaker 8: very slowly just walk away just.
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: Walk away, Simpson into the bushes.
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah, and I'm starting to think that that is a
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: very plausible way that this kind of winds down. That
• 52:19
  Speaker 8: Trump never necessarily signs any documents or agrees any particular thing.
• 52:26
  Speaker 8: You know, if if, if the US and Israel don't
• 52:29
  Speaker 8: attack Iran, Iran is extremely unlikely to launch an attack
• 52:33
  Speaker 8: on it on them, and so you just very slowly
• 52:38
  Speaker 8: and deliberately.
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: Start although maybe more likely now.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: I mean they'd have to I think they'd have to
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: get hit.
• 52:46
  Speaker 8: I think Iran would have to get hit at this point,
• 52:49
  Speaker 8: but Iran.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, It's it's a very to me, a very unstable
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: outcome that is likely to be able to persist for
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: a significant amount of time for a variety of reasons.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, if you don't restore, you know,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: free flow goes through the strait of Hormons. You continue
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: to have this tightening of the global economic news that
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: is going to prove unsustainable for Trump. You have Israel
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: constantly wanting to go.
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: Back to war.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: So it's hard for me to see how you know,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: I can see how he could walk away in the
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: short term, it's hard for me to see how he persued.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Trump persists in that outcome and that you know, achieves
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: some sort of a long term balance. It seems very
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: much more likely to me that we end up back
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: here again if that's what they try to achieve in
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: the short term.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: Well, on that note, why aren't we tell that's I
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: was just.
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: Gonna say that your best example of that is what
• 53:46
  Speaker 7: happened in Goza. It's like we were talking on the
• 53:48
  Speaker 7: show about this this week too. Is like for Trump,
• 53:52
  Speaker 7: it looked like the wind that he could say he
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: ended another conflict, put you know, another notch in the
• 53:57
  Speaker 7: Nobel Prize qualification, and it rolls on and we could
• 54:02
  Speaker 7: see flare ups anyway, So it's like branding basically.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: Let's wrap up this with a little bit of AMA questions.
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: This one's for Crystal from Nick Brannon in response to
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: the Jacobin panel. How does the left flank of the
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: Democratic Party actually exert power? I am little left of
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: most social Democrats, but I know quite a bit of
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: Trots and Leninists.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: Okay, how does.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: It not fall into the traps of reformism in the past.
• 54:29
  Speaker 5: The distance between the DSA and the Green Party seems worrying.
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: Could you truly imagine row Er AOC running as a
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: Green Party candidate if they get kicked out of the
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: primary process by party elites. All right, there's a lot there,
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: So I don't know which part you want to tell.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, my view is very much that,
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: let's be honest, DSA has been fantastic.
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: They've had a lot of growth.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Obviously, they're directly involved in the election of zor On
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Mom Donnie, which is one of the most important, I
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: think significant developments for the left in since like Bernie
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: Zanders since ran in twenty sixteen, and their most successful
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: strategy has been running people as Democrats. So the outside parties,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: you know, the Green Party, et cetera, they just don't
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: have the size, strength, institutional muscle to be a real
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: contender at this point in time. The mechanism is the
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: Democratic Party, and so the only solution then is to
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: effectively take over the Democratic Party. And I think at
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: the base level, in a lot of ways that has
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: already happened. Like the base of the Democratic Party agrees
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: now with Bernie Sanders, like they have been won over,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: and they also agree with the and this is the
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: really critical part with the critique both of liberal media
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: establishment and with liberal leadership, that creates a tremendous opening
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: that really hasn't been has never been there before in
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: my lifetime. So I think there's I think there's a
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: lot of possibility now that hasn't existed in the past.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: And it's just look, the Democratic Party is just a shell.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: It's just you know, it's a name. It can be
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: whatever you force it to be, but you have to
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: have a different cast of characters in there, and you
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: have to have a grassroots behind it that are going
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: to pressure those new leaders to act in the interests
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: of people versus in the interests of corporate donors.
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, all right. Coming up next to do for Emily
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: from alex NYC. If you didn't talk about it on
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: today's show, I'd like to hear Emily's thoughts on Pete
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: Hegsa's reading of The Book of Tarantino.
• 56:35
  Speaker 7: I thought there was some really like ridiculous clipping done
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: of that, I will say, because it was obvious that
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: he was doing something from pulp fiction, and if you
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: were like listening to him, that's clearly what he was doing.
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: And there were people who originally clipped it as though
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: he was making up Bible versus and not like he
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: was literally stealing from pulp fiction. He credited pulp fiction.
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: So that was the like, some of the misleading clips
• 57:01
  Speaker 7: were driving me insane because they like, it's already wild
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: enough that he's just like riffing on pulp fiction. So
• 57:09
  Speaker 7: I thought it was a little weird. I mean, he's
• 57:11
  Speaker 7: been doing some weird stuff. I think they're having a
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: hard time coming up with a viable justification that's broadly
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: appealing to the American public. And are you know, that's
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: the right way to put it. They are. They're now
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: in a bubble where they're kind of high on their
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: own supply because they've purged i think criticism from their
• 57:40
  Speaker 7: ranks and their vicinity, and that's always really dangerous. That's
• 57:45
  Speaker 7: how you get into very dangerous situations. So that's kind
• 57:49
  Speaker 7: of my take on it.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, his whole strategy just seems to try
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: be to try to portray himself as the most comically
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: villainous person you can imagine, and like using the pulp fiction.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: You know, Prayer for Violence is I think an example
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: of that, which is why to go back to the
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: earlier discussion we're having about the TMZ question like, basically,
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: what does it feel like to make these decisions in
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: favor of violence and be the one, you know, making
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: the call to authorize these incredibly violent and deadly actions.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: I think that's why that question is so important, because
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: it's like you're trying to portray yourself as a monster.
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: Are you really, like, what is it like.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: To be inside your head and justify some of the
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: things that are being done right now?
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: And I was thinking about that when we were Oh,
• 58:34
  Speaker 7: go ahead, no, I'm go for it. I was just
• 58:37
  Speaker 7: going to say, when we were talking about the clip earlier,
• 58:40
  Speaker 7: I was thinking about how he changed Department of Defense
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: to Department of War, and they're trying to make the
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: case that this was essentially a defensive war because it
• 58:48
  Speaker 7: was preemptive, and they've been trying to build this into
• 58:51
  Speaker 7: Christian just war doctrine. And I think just changing the
• 58:55
  Speaker 7: name itself is such an obviously symbolic thing, But when
• 58:59
  Speaker 7: you look back on that decision, I think it was
• 59:01
  Speaker 7: much more honest. I think it's much more honest refer
• 59:03
  Speaker 7: to the previously known as Department of Defense as the
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: Department of War. But it's I think you're now really
• 59:12
  Speaker 7: seeing what that meant.
• 59:14
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's interestingly, it's never been honest. You know, it
• 59:19
  Speaker 8: used to be the War Department, back when the US
• 59:23
  Speaker 8: wasn't really they were expansionary internally doing their whole genocide
• 59:28
  Speaker 8: taking over the whole continental United States, but they weren't
• 59:32
  Speaker 8: going abroad yet.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: And when we well, they were doing some.
• 59:37
  Speaker 8: But like when they change it to the Department of Defense,
• 59:40
  Speaker 8: that's when we really went ham on the world. So
• 59:43
  Speaker 8: now for changing it back, maybe it means in the
• 59:46
  Speaker 8: Orwellian sense, we're going to be retrenching.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: It has not meant that, Ryan, I regret and you
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: should keep up the current events.
• 59:56
  Speaker 7: Read a book, Ryan.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: Okay, this one's for a Ryan from Eddie hazel Fan.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: I want to challenge Ryan on his A pack tracker
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: slash J Street objections. It seems clear to me that
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: Normy voters are disgusted by the concept of a lobby
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: for a foreign country and have basically no understanding of Zionism,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: much less liberal Zionism versus Lakudnik Zionism versus religious Zionism,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: et cetera. DEM's embracing J Street while the right says
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: they reject the whole lobby is a recipe for losing
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: the issue to them, isn't it?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: Wait what was the last part?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: Basically they said that they're like, oh, Republicans are disavowing
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: all Israeli lobby They're not. They're not making a difference
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 5: between liberal Zionism or Zionism. I say, I think that's
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 5: at least what he's saying.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: Guys are doing that.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Thomas James fishback, Yeah, right, yeah, So.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 8: Setting that part aside, I don't know. I just don't.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 8: I like things to be accurate. Like if it's called
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 8: a pack tracker, make it an a pack tracker. If
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 8: it's all pro Israel money tracker, call it that.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: I almost have.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 8: Now a bigger problem with what I've noticed is they're
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 8: getting some heat for and I think justifiably so is
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 8: the lobby donors part? Like if so, it says lobby
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 8: donors X amount of money, and then it says, you know,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 8: if it looks like the methodology is if somebody gave
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 8: two hundred bucks at some point to J Street at some.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: Point in their life, like ten years ago, they get.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 8: Classified as a lobby donor, and then if they give
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 8: to anybody.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: Then they get counted.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 8: And it doesn't seem like they're being kind of straight
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 8: up about it, Like because Tall Rico they list like
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 8: one hundred plus thousand or whatever, quote unquote lobby don't
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 8: doesn't take a pack money. He's been critical of our
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 8: Israel policy. He's taken like thirty or forty million bucks in.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 8: Some of that is going to come from people who've
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 8: also given a J Street at some point, like they're
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 8: a red card. But then there are other people that
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 8: they like who get a green card, who have raised millions,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 8: who I guarantee you if you go through there, like
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 8: AOC or Rashida or Ilhan, I guarantee you they have
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 8: gotten money. Everybody hates AOC, Rashida and Ilhan guarantee you
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 8: they've gotten money from people who have given also to
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 8: J Street. Why don't they get a red card? So
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 8: that that's the like it's to me, I'm just.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: It's got to be totally consistent, got to be consistent
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: about the decision.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Let you know what the crisier is and how you're
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: applying it, and if you are going to use something
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: that's so broad of anyone who's ever given any money to.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 6: J Street or a pack like it.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: I first of all I don't like that critry criteria,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: but if you're going to use it, it has to
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: be done consistently across the board, has to be well
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: explained what it means too, and then.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 8: Give Rashida a red card. People will be like, we'll
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 8: hold on a second.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 7: No, I couldn't agree with that more because it's that
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 7: it's you never ever want to make people. You don't
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 7: want to give people reason to doubt good work. And
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 7: that's why the precision of the language is important, like
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 7: building trust with people so that they don't suddenly look
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 7: into something and be like, Okay, so now I don't
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 7: trust this entire project because it was literally linguistically misleading
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 7: to me. And so yeah, I mean I think the
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 7: broad point is important about normies versus a political analyst. Yes,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 7: that's that's obviously important, but we give normies a little
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 7: bit more credit too, for you know, following their own
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 7: their own trails sometimes and trying to get to the
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 7: bottom of what's going on. And the last thing that
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 7: you want if you want the project to be successful,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: is losing I think the trust and credibility.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: In that case, I will say J Street is like
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: a very confusing organization to me at this point, and Ryan,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: I'd be curious for your thoughts on this, because yeah,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: they were really trying to hold the like liberal Zionist
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: ground that is an increasingly untenable place to stand. So
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: they've shifted their positions, but it's still I mean, they're
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: just still sort of, I think, figuring out where to land,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: because how can you advocate for Israel at all and
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: hold liberal values At this point.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 8: They really blew themselves up over the first eighteen months
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 8: of the genocide refusing to call for a ceasefire. They
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 8: had this really kind of expansive J Street University apparatus going,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 8: and I think it just completely evaporated because all of
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 8: the students who were J Street u students were like, no,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 8: we need a ceasefire, we need to stop this genocide,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 8: and they see their organization not calling for that. They've
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 8: since come around, but I don't know if that it
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 8: can be I don't know if it can be repaired.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 8: We you know, we were talking about having either Jeremy
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 8: or maybe Elon On Elon Goldberg on from Jay Street
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 8: just to hash some of this out. We should we
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 8: should definitely make that happen to be an interesting conversation.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you think Tommy Veeter did a pretty good
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: job in the terview that he did recently.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 8: I gotta watch that whole thing that was with Elon Goldberg,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 8: right the VP. Yeah, they came in and like after
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 8: the nine War where Yahu launched this war right after
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 8: Obama was elected but before he was sworn in.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: He's like, sweet, got a couple months to do a
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: quick war.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 8: And some Democrats wanted to oppose it, but call it
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 8: like anybody who remotely said anything skeptical of it was
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 8: called anti semitic. So Jay Street was like born out
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 8: of that war to give Democrats who wanted to be
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 8: critical of Israel somebody who would validate them as not
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 8: anti semitic. Like that was essentially the theory of change
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 8: and behind j Street. But then, but people have pushed
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 8: significantly further than Jay Street is willing to go. So yeah,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 8: it raises interesting questions about what they're where they fit anymore.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean in the reality of Israel has just
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: pushed further than it's really possible to like because they
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: want to do a lot of the like, oh well,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: if we just get Nan Yahoo out of there, then
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: it'll be then it'll be different. And then you look
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: at the polls and you listen to the opposition leaders
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: who were like net Yahoo didn't do the war hard enough.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: I don't really think this is going to be a solution, guys.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: So and also just the reality that you know, Israel
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: is a one state at this point. You know, they
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: exercise total control from the river to the sea. That
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: is the reality. It's a reality that was intentionally constructed
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: to block any sort of two state solution ever in
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: the future. And so that also is something that you
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: have to grapple with. So I don't know, it's just
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: hard for me to really unders stand the purpose they
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: serve as an organization at this point, given the the
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: realities that everyone's eyes are open to it.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: You know, now, well, it.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: Seems like they gave democrats the wiggle room to not
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: send like defensive weapons, even even I think that was
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: like a big thing recently from j Street, right.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 8: Ryan, I endorsed the idea that Okay, we're not going
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 8: to subsidize Iron Dome anymore, and we're not going to
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 8: fight you around if you don't want to subsidize Iron Dome,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 8: but you still should sell the Iron Weapons to as Or,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 8: which is you know, it's a substantial move, but things
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 8: are moving fast. Jay Street, if it becomes kind of
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 8: an anti Zionist pro one state democracy organization could be
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 8: would have an interesting role to play m H to say,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 8: we we believe in equal rights for everybody within these borders.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 8: We're against apartheid, we're guest occupation, but we recognize that
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 8: two states is no longer going to happen. That would
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 8: that would be an interesting place for them to exist.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: An APEC tracker also has like their work cut out
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: for them, because, as you've documented, Ryan, there's now all
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 5: these like hidden a PAC groups, right elect Chicago Women
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: and stuff. It's like yeah, but and like there really
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 5: can't be a Twitter account for every single one of them.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 5: Although I did get the elect Chicago Women Twitter account.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: Sorry but there's news on that. Yeah.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 8: We busted a pack funding Ala Stanford against Chris rab
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 8: and Shreeve Street in this uh Philadelphia race and AOC
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 8: actually today just endorsed Chris Rab.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 9: I thought she.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 6: Didn't new endorsements. I'm so confused your staff was able
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: to figure this one out.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: Apparently, Crystal I can't get clipped again Okay, I we
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 5: got clipped last week.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: I don't like being any hassan. I can't be retweeted
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: into the into all that.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 7: As it was happening, I knew that was about to
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 7: get clipped.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 5: I was just like, more than anything else. So thank
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 5: you Friday Show viewers.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 7: I always know, like whatever it is. Like when a
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 7: couple of weeks ago, I was on set with Megan
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 7: and she said the thing about the like Trump could
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 7: use a nuke, which was in the context of this
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 7: hour long conversation or whatever about saying it was horrible
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 7: to threaten to nuke another country. I was like, oh,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 7: I can always tell, Like literally, when I used to
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 7: do Fox, I would be like, this is one thousand
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 7: percent getting clipped, and nine percent of the time I'm
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 7: right because you know what's going through like the little
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 7: media blogger's head.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a crazy thing for Megan to say, though,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: so I understand why that got clicked.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 7: It was a good joke. It was a joke. It
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 7: was a whole hour long conversation. Oh, we don't get
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 7: it about how a horrible Trump's.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: Out of respect for your your position here, I'm not
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to say anymore.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 6: But it was a crazy thing to say.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 5: Uh, all right, and I'm not taking any opinions as
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: someone that goes on the after party network. All right,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: let's do our final question here. Uh from Happy Days,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 5: oh eight seven to two. Any thoughts on frequent guests
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 5: Row Conna and him getting called out by all In
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: podcast for having stock returns slash gains better than Nancy
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: Pelosi or virtually anyone.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 7: Brian, you've done. It's Roe's wife, right, Oh?
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 8: Is that what they're beating him up for? Yeah, Rose, Yeah,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 8: Roe's wife is extremely rich.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 6: And like you know, family money. I believe hundreds of millions.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: Or tens of millions, like, yeah, enormously rich. Uh.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 8: He has consistently introduced legislation that would force every spouse
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 8: of every member of Congress to what like divest or
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 8: put them stuff in a blind trust like it would
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 8: it would force it would legally force his wife.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: You know, to not do it. She's currently doing so.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 8: I don't know of many members of Congress who have
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 8: done that before. But so, yeah, it's like it's tricky.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 8: It's like Roe married her, she's super rich. It's harmony.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 8: He can't really tell her what to do with it.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 8: The federal government could, and he's trying to get the
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 8: federal government to do something about it.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: That's an interesting dynamic.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: I'm going to pass a law that's going to make
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: you do the dishes.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know it's a good marriage. You know it's
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 7: a good marriage when he can't force her to stop
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 7: doing it. That's how you know that it's a healthy
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 7: marital dynamic. And actually there's social science research that the
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 7: happiest marriages are the marriages where both partners feel equal.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 7: So it seems to me like if Roe can't say.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 8: One brings in the hammer of the federal legislation to.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: That imbalance.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so that's the that's the situation. And he I'm
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 8: sure he knows it's a political liability and that his
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 8: opponents are going to hammer.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: Him for it.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 8: Because you know, it looks like he's insider trading if
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 8: you look at Buton but like it does. And his uh,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 8: his opponent has millions to you know, to spend, get
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 8: a lot of money too to spend.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: So we'll see.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 7: I remember when Ryan you first started, uh, when Roe
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 7: was like really uh building his profile as a leader
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 7: in the progressive space. I remember you like years ago
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 7: on the show confronting him about this. So the all
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 7: in guys could have looked that up from like five
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 7: years ago. Crystal and Soccer probably did it too.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he's one of the ones that
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: jumps out because his wife has so much money and
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: they and his wife's broker trades it like pretty regularly.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 8: So it's popping up constantly on these on those reports.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, but you're start to feel bad for somebody for
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: having a wife with too much money.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know how there's like a everybody's there's there's
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  Speaker 5: unusual whales, the tracks Insiders, Maybe we do unusual wives Pelosi.
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  Speaker 8: You know it is her husband who was like an
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  Speaker 8: actual trader, like he's that's his job, Like that was
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  Speaker 8: his job. I don't know if he still doesn''s.
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  Speaker 7: A hell of a profession when your wife is the
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  Speaker 7: leader of the Democratic Caucus.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I guess all marital disputes will now be
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  Speaker 5: uh dealt with with legislation, So look forward to that.
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  Speaker 5: Uh And that's going to do it for us this week.
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  Speaker 5: Anything else that we need to mention before we sign off, No,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry for.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to her about introducing legislation to
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  Speaker 2: limit the amount of golf channel viewing that's allowed in
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  Speaker 2: the household per week.
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  Speaker 3: That's true. It's literally the only way to get back.
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  Speaker 6: I think I think I could get a lot of
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  Speaker 6: support for that personally.
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  Speaker 8: But this is clearly a bill of a painder directed
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  Speaker 8: at one.
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  Speaker 7: Kyle Crystal, maybe you could use the new Virginia dem
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  Speaker 7: power to get them to pass this for.
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  Speaker 6: There you go, okay, yeah, that we could just do
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  Speaker 6: it in Virginia. That does work.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, state law.
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  Speaker 2: Let the old people in Florida continue watching their golf changels,
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  Speaker 2: leave them alone. He really does have the viewing habits
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  Speaker 2: of like an eighty year old guy. He watches the
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  Speaker 2: golf channel on the Weather Channel all the time.
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  Speaker 4: Oh I love the channel. It's like on in the
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  Speaker 4: background constantly.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I guarantee if I go over to the
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  Speaker 2: room right now, it's on.
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  Speaker 4: Something soothing about golf on TV.
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  Speaker 7: I find true.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. It's like let it wash over you.
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  Speaker 5: All right, Congress, get your act together, Ryan Crystal, thank
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 5: you for incredible Friday show and audience. Thank you for
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 5: bringing us to number fifteen. Hopefully next month we're not
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 5: at number one, and that we're sinking down to a
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  Speaker 5: more normal number, and thank you all for watching and
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  Speaker 10: I