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- 0:29Speaker 5: This is Chuck and Buck in the Morning.
- 0:31Speaker 1: What's up, folks? Why you people are beyond Let's go,
- 0:35Speaker 1: Let's get the game off. Hey, great morning to you all.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Welcome into the radio show that the kids and the
- 0:54Speaker 1: adults both both involved. Uh call Chucking back in the Morning.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Sports Radio ninety three point three Gay Jr FM. It's
- 1:01Speaker 1: great to have you with us here on this Monday morning.
- 1:04Speaker 1: And when't I say still no, Bucky Jacobson back from
- 1:07Speaker 1: his medical leave. Ashley Ryan is here, she's bespecled, and
- 1:12Speaker 1: my name is Chuck Powell.
- 1:14Speaker 5: It's great to have you with us here on this Monday.
- 1:17Speaker 1: You were running a little later than normal. I'm running
- 1:20Speaker 1: a little later than normal. I didn't even have a
- 1:21Speaker 1: chance to go get water. And it's because of the
- 1:26Speaker 1: stop lights. Yes, what the f thank you. I wasn't
- 1:31Speaker 1: just imagining that.
- 1:32Speaker 6: No, And it was like and just packed every like
- 1:36Speaker 6: semi trucks and cars everywhere, and you couldn't get They
- 1:40Speaker 6: were like letting ten light ten cars through total.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Now my working theory right now, and I have no
- 1:46Speaker 1: idea if this actually happens, but like they probably have
- 1:51Speaker 1: to do that during like rush hour craziness so that
- 1:55Speaker 1: things don't get you know, so that so they just
- 1:58Speaker 1: keep them. Yes you're in trap, but you're kept like
- 2:01Speaker 1: a block at a time. Yeah, that's what it felt
- 2:03Speaker 1: during rush hour. But at five point thirty in the morning,
- 2:07Speaker 1: somebody flitches flips a switch, right like on Friday, after
- 2:11Speaker 1: rush hour is over, somebody's job is to switch those
- 2:14Speaker 1: lights so that you can now sail through and you
- 2:17Speaker 1: don't get stopped at every single light. Because that's what
- 2:19Speaker 1: was happening. I got stopped at seven consecutive red lights
- 2:23Speaker 1: in a very short period of time. We couldn't get
- 2:26Speaker 1: out of red lightdom.
- 2:28Speaker 6: Yeah, so I always put in my GPS because, especially
- 2:32Speaker 6: with the way that the express lanes were and things
- 2:34Speaker 6: were screwed up, I always want to know if something
- 2:36Speaker 6: happens and I need to go an alternate route to
- 2:37Speaker 6: get to work. I always put it in, so once
- 2:40Speaker 6: I got off the freeway, my time to work increased.
- 2:44Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was like, what.
- 2:46Speaker 6: I'm I just got off the freeway, is what's happening?
- 2:49Speaker 6: And even getting off the freeway was backed up, That's.
- 2:52Speaker 5: What was happening.
- 2:53Speaker 1: They I mean, maybe not, maybe it's just flucish, but
- 2:57Speaker 1: the red lights were happening so so frequently that you
- 3:01Speaker 1: could not get through more.
- 3:03Speaker 5: Than one at a time.
- 3:04Speaker 1: I agreed, Yeah, And so everything kept getting backed up
- 3:07Speaker 1: and everybody was getting annoyed and frustrated. So I'm like,
- 3:11Speaker 1: is this just flucish that this is occurring or did
- 3:14Speaker 1: somebody not flip the switch Friday night?
- 3:17Speaker 7: Well, whoever that person is needs a reprimand yeah.
- 3:20Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 3:20Speaker 1: So anyway, we're here. It's good to have you with us.
- 3:24Speaker 1: And yes, we got a lot to do during the
- 3:26Speaker 1: course of our show today. But I don't have water,
- 3:30Speaker 1: so keep that in mind.
- 3:31Speaker 7: Okay, Well that's going to be tough that.
- 3:33Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna be sitting there like, gosh, this
- 3:35Speaker 1: poor guy's getting through a twenty minute segment no water,
- 3:39Speaker 1: poor godrch Yeah, jeez, and he's coming off a weekend.
- 3:43Speaker 1: He probably did a little drinking.
- 3:44Speaker 7: Yeah, he was on the sun.
- 3:46Speaker 1: Yeah, he was out in the sun for a little bit.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Probably had a lot of coffee this week. Yes, yes,
- 3:52Speaker 1: I'm dehydrated.
- 3:53Speaker 7: Oh man, I hadn't thought about this.
- 3:58Speaker 1: So anyway, well get through it, you know, just you know,
- 4:01Speaker 1: sixteen more minutes, I can get some water.
- 4:03Speaker 2: You can do it.
- 4:04Speaker 5: I can do it. I can do it.
- 4:05Speaker 1: I'll fight through it for you.
- 4:07Speaker 5: The listener. I'll fight through it.
- 4:09Speaker 1: So anyway, hope you had a great weekend out there.
- 4:12Speaker 1: I hope you had a great Father's Day, all you
- 4:14Speaker 1: daddy's and sons and daughters and everybody else that got
- 4:19Speaker 1: to participate there. And Father's dated five iron just feel
- 4:22Speaker 1: like a king. Did you carry him around and his
- 4:24Speaker 1: throne all day? I guess is his feet didn't touch
- 4:26Speaker 1: the ground.
- 4:27Speaker 7: His feet touched the ground.
- 4:29Speaker 6: They did, they did? You failed, But yeah, I really did.
- 4:34Speaker 6: But he got to have I think it was a
- 4:37Speaker 6: pretty good Father's Day for him. I asked him what
- 4:39Speaker 6: he wanted to do, and he said, watch the US
- 4:42Speaker 6: open and you gut and if you guys want to
- 4:44Speaker 6: go to your mom's that's great.
- 4:46Speaker 7: And he was joking when he said it, but I
- 4:48Speaker 7: was like, okay, that's great.
- 4:50Speaker 6: So we hung out in the morning, and then I
- 4:51Speaker 6: took my mom to Low's and the grocery store and
- 4:54Speaker 6: ran some errands with her.
- 4:55Speaker 7: Then we came back and we had lunch.
- 4:57Speaker 6: Meanwhile, five Iron watched the US Open in the back yard,
- 5:00Speaker 6: grilled up some hot dogs.
- 5:03Speaker 7: He just had his own thing going.
- 5:05Speaker 6: And then I said, so you can have your day
- 5:07Speaker 6: and then just tell me what you want for dinner,
- 5:09Speaker 6: and I'll make whatever you want for dinner.
- 5:10Speaker 5: Okay.
- 5:11Speaker 6: So then we did bowlon AI's for dinner because that's
- 5:13Speaker 6: his favorite. Yeah, and sat outside and ate dinners.
- 5:16Speaker 1: It's one of the things. And I don't know if
- 5:18Speaker 1: it goes over real well, but they're just sometimes and
- 5:22Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's more guys than girls,
- 5:25Speaker 1: where you're just like, you really what I want.
- 5:28Speaker 5: I just like an afternoon to myself.
- 5:30Speaker 3: Yep.
- 5:30Speaker 7: And that's what he got.
- 5:31Speaker 5: Yeah, And so I think maybe you satisfied.
- 5:34Speaker 1: I hope.
- 5:35Speaker 5: So I think he probably had.
- 5:38Speaker 1: I think he probably had a ball out there watching
- 5:40Speaker 1: golf and just taking it all.
- 5:43Speaker 7: Yeah, Sonny, it was nice.
- 5:45Speaker 1: A man in his kingdom, that's right, that's right, watching
- 5:49Speaker 1: his favorite pastime.
- 5:50Speaker 6: And the US Open delivered too, because at first leaving Saturday,
- 5:54Speaker 6: I was like, oh man, this is gonna be a.
- 5:56Speaker 1: Well And I'll say this, I mean, I mean, I
- 5:59Speaker 1: don't know how far our golf is down my favorite
- 6:01Speaker 1: sports list, but it's certainly not in the top four.
- 6:05Speaker 1: I'll say that I typically just watch the majors. That's
- 6:09Speaker 1: the kind of guy I am, and I do keep
- 6:11Speaker 1: up with it, you know, green Jacket Draft. Certainly I
- 6:15Speaker 1: want to bring a little bit of expertise to that
- 6:17Speaker 1: when we do our previews. So I do keep up
- 6:19Speaker 1: with it. But I'm I'm mostly when it comes to golf,
- 6:22Speaker 1: just a major's watcher kind of guy. But I'll give
- 6:28Speaker 1: golf credit for this because of that ability. Like if
- 6:34Speaker 1: the Seahawks are playing in a football game, you know,
- 6:37Speaker 1: the idea that you screw up, you get points subtracted
- 6:41Speaker 1: off your score. Yeah, you know, you don't have that
- 6:44Speaker 1: in any other sport. And so here I'm sitting there thinking,
- 6:49Speaker 1: Wyndham Clark's probably got this thing, I mean, that big
- 6:52Speaker 1: of a lead on this tough of a course. No
- 6:54Speaker 1: one else's I mean, people are the idea of getting
- 6:58Speaker 1: a bunch of birdies today.
- 7:00Speaker 5: Man, that's just not gonna happen.
- 7:02Speaker 1: So it was gonna have to be a combination of
- 7:05Speaker 1: one other guy in the field has a couple birdies,
- 7:10Speaker 1: and Clark's gonna have to come back down to the pack. Now,
- 7:14Speaker 1: you don't have that in other sports, Like I said,
- 7:16Speaker 1: you don't get points, you don't get runs subtracted from
- 7:19Speaker 1: your total. As the Mariners if you screw up an inning.
- 7:22Speaker 7: Thank goodness.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Yeah, But in golf, I mean, it can just happen
- 7:27Speaker 1: so quickly. He starts the day with six strokes. He
- 7:32Speaker 1: was up, Yeah, I'm and I'm monitoring it. I don't
- 7:35Speaker 1: even have it on one of my two TVs. At
- 7:37Speaker 1: the beginning. I was gonna flip over there the moment
- 7:40Speaker 1: that it got interesting, and so he'd come back a
- 7:44Speaker 1: little bit from the pack. And then the next thing
- 7:46Speaker 1: I know, I look up and it's a one stroke
- 7:50Speaker 1: lead over Sam Burns. It's four to three at that point.
- 7:53Speaker 1: So then I'm like, and then I scurry, Okay, oh gosh,
- 7:56Speaker 1: this has just turned into something dramatic. I scurry to
- 7:59Speaker 1: get that on so that I can catch up with everything.
- 8:03Speaker 1: And then sure enough he builds a lead back up.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Now he's like three strokes ahead. He was five under
- 8:09Speaker 1: and Burns is two under. I'm like, all right, that's
- 8:12Speaker 1: a pretty good reaction because a lot of athletes might
- 8:15Speaker 1: wilt in that situation. I'm blowing it. On Sunday, I
- 8:19Speaker 1: had a huge lead. No one thought I could be
- 8:22Speaker 1: tracked down, and now all of a sudden, I'm only
- 8:25Speaker 1: up one stroke at this point. And I think a
- 8:28Speaker 1: lot of athletes crumble in that moment. And so he
- 8:31Speaker 1: gets it back to a three stroke lead, and I'm like,
- 8:33Speaker 1: all right, he's back in control, and then not ten
- 8:36Speaker 1: minutes later, it's back to a one stroke lead again.
- 8:39Speaker 1: I mean, it has a way, this sport, more so
- 8:42Speaker 1: than any other sport, of creating drama in an instant,
- 8:46Speaker 1: and that was certainly on display yesterday.
- 8:49Speaker 6: Well yeah, and you think about the way that I
- 8:51Speaker 6: mean Wyndham's putt when he had the two putt to
- 8:54Speaker 6: win it on eighteen. I mean, the first putt was
- 8:56Speaker 6: awesome to leave him just a short putt to win.
- 8:59Speaker 6: But think about Sam Burns on eighteen. I mean, he's
- 9:03Speaker 6: three inches two inches away from tying him, and then
- 9:06Speaker 6: that thing would have gone to a playoff, which is
- 9:08Speaker 6: the ultimate drama and what do you want on a
- 9:10Speaker 6: US Open? But I mean, I don't know the whole thing.
- 9:12Speaker 6: It was awesome just to yeah, because you've got this
- 9:15Speaker 6: up and this down. Even they called it like a
- 9:17Speaker 6: roller coaster and the articles about it like, yeah, I
- 9:19Speaker 6: was a roller coaster for Wyndham Clark and Sam Burns
- 9:23Speaker 6: is probably kicking himself about that two inches.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. And Clark was so quick. I
- 9:29Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever seen anybody. As soon as
- 9:31Speaker 1: Scheffler's shot was over, I mean, that's the moment, right,
- 9:34Speaker 1: This is the moment where you win the US Open
- 9:37Speaker 1: and you win a major and.
- 9:40Speaker 5: You know, I know you're.
- 9:41Speaker 1: An inch away, but maybe you don't want to You're
- 9:44Speaker 1: gonna take some time make sure you don't blow that.
- 9:46Speaker 5: But as soon as Scheffler cleared.
- 9:48Speaker 1: He like ran in there and knocked it in and
- 9:50Speaker 1: like yeah, and then started to celebrate. And then there
- 9:53Speaker 1: was that it was Father's Day, so there's always the
- 9:55Speaker 1: father's portion of the US Open, and I and the
- 9:59Speaker 1: Wyndham clar 's dad they fly in that day. He
- 10:04Speaker 1: wasn't there at the tournament, so the odd opportunity to
- 10:08Speaker 1: kind of surprise Windham as he's coming off the course,
- 10:12Speaker 1: and that was cool.
- 10:13Speaker 5: That was good.
- 10:14Speaker 1: But I loved what the mics picked up on Papa
- 10:19Speaker 1: Clark what he said to him. He said, you know
- 10:21Speaker 1: the whole I'm so proud of you, and he said
- 10:23Speaker 1: that over and over. But then you caught the reason
- 10:26Speaker 1: why he was so proud. He's like, you will never
- 10:28Speaker 1: have a more difficult round in your life. And I
- 10:32Speaker 1: think he was right to go to bed on Sunday
- 10:35Speaker 1: night and have a big lead and everybody thinks it's over.
- 10:38Speaker 1: And because of the reasons that I just explained about
- 10:41Speaker 1: how golf, you know you not only is somebody, not
- 10:44Speaker 1: only is an entire field trying to track you down,
- 10:46Speaker 1: and it only takes one guy to get hot, but
- 10:49Speaker 1: you also can start giving points away, you can start
- 10:53Speaker 1: giving runs away, which he did, but he gets nearly
- 10:58Speaker 1: tracked down. Jicks in the rear view mirror are just
- 11:02Speaker 1: as close as they appear. And then for him to
- 11:06Speaker 1: hold on in that fashion, I think Papa Clark was
- 11:09Speaker 1: right about that that was going to be the even
- 11:11Speaker 1: though he had a big lead going into the day,
- 11:14Speaker 1: he wasn't going to face more pressure in his life
- 11:19Speaker 1: thinking about all the things. First of all, it's a
- 11:21Speaker 1: tough course to begin with.
- 11:23Speaker 7: Tough crowd for him, tough crowd.
- 11:25Speaker 1: You know, and now all of a sudden, your lead
- 11:28Speaker 1: is evaporated and you start there's no teammate that you
- 11:31Speaker 1: can pass the ball to. Here, you take this shot,
- 11:34Speaker 1: you know, you gotta make all of the shots. And
- 11:38Speaker 1: for him to withstand all of that and finish it off,
- 11:42Speaker 1: I got to give a lot of credit to the
- 11:43Speaker 1: hotel because we've seen a lot of people crack under
- 11:46Speaker 1: that situation, and he held his own and ends up
- 11:50Speaker 1: winning a second major.
- 11:51Speaker 6: Yeah, and you wouldn't have even considered it had he
- 11:54Speaker 6: blown the lead. I don't think people would have said
- 11:58Speaker 6: that he choked. I think it would have been Sam
- 12:00Speaker 6: Burns storming back and having the great round, you know,
- 12:04Speaker 6: to put himself in that position. But you know, he's
- 12:08Speaker 6: thinking that like, oh my god, I can't choke this away.
- 12:11Speaker 6: I can't choke this away, I can't ruin this. I've
- 12:14Speaker 6: worked three days with this lead. I'm not gonna I
- 12:17Speaker 6: can't lose it now, or none or all of it
- 12:20Speaker 6: was for nothing, And I mean, yeah, the way, the
- 12:23Speaker 6: fact that he was able to keep his composure, the
- 12:25Speaker 6: fact that he was I mean that was the thing
- 12:27Speaker 6: is you're looking watching on eighteen and that on that
- 12:30Speaker 6: big putt, thinking all he has to do is, you know,
- 12:33Speaker 6: give himself a decent chance. But there was a solid
- 12:36Speaker 6: chance he was he could have ended up in a
- 12:38Speaker 6: three putt situation. And for the fact that he had
- 12:40Speaker 6: that first putt that was so good. It was like, oh,
- 12:43Speaker 6: he's dialed in again, He's got this. And I thought
- 12:46Speaker 6: the other one of the other cool moments.
- 12:47Speaker 1: Because it would have been an easy moment to just crack.
- 12:49Speaker 1: I mean, that would have been the moment to like,
- 12:52Speaker 1: I can't blow this now.
- 12:53Speaker 7: And we've seen people do it thousands.
- 12:56Speaker 1: Of times, We've seen people do it, and yet that
- 12:59Speaker 1: was he's probably his best shot of the entire tournament.
- 13:02Speaker 1: I mean he put it right there next to the
- 13:04Speaker 1: cup where he's not even really trying to put it
- 13:07Speaker 1: in the cup. Necessarily, Hey it goes in, it goes in. Yeah,
- 13:10Speaker 1: But that's what he was trying to do, is just
- 13:13Speaker 1: make that second putt as easy as possible.
- 13:16Speaker 5: Any perfection.
- 13:18Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he couldn't have dialed it up any better.
- 13:20Speaker 7: I thought.
- 13:20Speaker 6: My other favorite moment though, was because that's what it's
- 13:23Speaker 6: so fun about the US Open is the fact that
- 13:25Speaker 6: you got Father's Day and all the special stories and
- 13:27Speaker 6: all the things that go along with it. And when
- 13:29Speaker 6: little seventeen year old Miles Russell had his caddie go
- 13:32Speaker 6: over on eighteen and give his dad the bib, so
- 13:38Speaker 6: his dad got to walk up eighteen with him after
- 13:40Speaker 6: and his son on the final Yeah, I thought, oh
- 13:42Speaker 6: my god, I would have been sobbing if I had
- 13:45Speaker 6: been watching that in real life.
- 13:47Speaker 1: It was so cute watching it in real life because
- 13:50Speaker 1: Ashley watched it in fake I did, well.
- 13:52Speaker 6: I watched it on TV, but I wasn't sobbing. Yeah,
- 13:54Speaker 6: but I don't know then. I did watch it about
- 13:57Speaker 6: seventeen times on video, so I did almost make myself cry.
- 14:00Speaker 5: Bets, I'm gonna say that you did.
- 14:02Speaker 6: I didn't, Shockingly, I did not, Okay, Okay, I thought
- 14:06Speaker 6: it was great though.
- 14:07Speaker 1: All right, Well, congratulations to Wyndham Clark. I don't know
- 14:10Speaker 1: if we were going to have another bulk of time
- 14:12Speaker 1: on today's busy ass show to be able to talk
- 14:15Speaker 1: about that, but certainly coming off Father's Day and US
- 14:19Speaker 1: Open goes hand in hand, and so I'm glad Wyndam
- 14:22Speaker 1: Clark had his day ends up pulling it off. I'm
- 14:25Speaker 1: glad Papa Clark had his moment and I'm glad Five Iron.
- 14:29Speaker 5: Got to watch it all by himself.
- 14:30Speaker 7: Me too.
- 14:32Speaker 1: All right, let's find out what's on tap for today's show.
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- 14:53Speaker 1: let's find out some headlines here and what's coming up
- 14:56Speaker 1: on today's show. And for those wondering, yes, I'm very part,
- 15:00Speaker 1: but I'm going to make it. You can do it.
- 15:02Speaker 5: I know a lot of people are worried.
- 15:03Speaker 7: I have a lot of faith.
- 15:05Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you.
- 15:05Speaker 1: It's the support like that that gets me through these
- 15:08Speaker 1: tough times. I'm glad Wyndham Clark takes his second major,
- 15:13Speaker 1: a second US Open World Cup also was over the weekend.
- 15:19Speaker 1: It continues obviously, and of course, I mean we do
- 15:24Speaker 1: have to take a little bit of time to acknowledge Friday.
- 15:27Speaker 1: It was so fun. It was great to have stretch
- 15:28Speaker 1: on with us. For the four hours and his energy
- 15:32Speaker 1: was infectious. That was very fast four hours that we
- 15:35Speaker 1: did together on Friday down there from Jimmy's. I end
- 15:39Speaker 1: up spending the entire day and evening down there, So
- 15:43Speaker 1: I made I did the whole thing. I did the
- 15:46Speaker 1: the match.
- 15:46Speaker 7: I didn't go to the match, but did you watch
- 15:48Speaker 7: it in Pioneer Square?
- 15:50Speaker 1: I tried, but even that was overrun okay, and so
- 15:55Speaker 1: I mean you couldn't even get You had to circle
- 15:58Speaker 1: around the block to try to come in on the side,
- 16:00Speaker 1: and even then I didn't know if the view was
- 16:02Speaker 1: going to be good. So we kind of cut our
- 16:04Speaker 1: losses and headed back and watched it at Jimmy's. But
- 16:08Speaker 1: that was packed two. I turned around at one point
- 16:10Speaker 1: because my back was to the entire bar. Turn my
- 16:13Speaker 1: back at one point and you're like, oh, well, I'll
- 16:15Speaker 1: pee and when the match is over, yeah, because it
- 16:19Speaker 1: was like shoulder to shoulder. There was no room for anything.
- 16:24Speaker 1: And the reactions to the two goals, including the own goal,
- 16:28Speaker 1: was was incredible. And I've just decided from now on,
- 16:32Speaker 1: anytime anybody screws something up, I'm just gonna say you
- 16:34Speaker 1: burgessed that. You totally burgess that yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
- 16:40Speaker 1: that's what I'm going to do. That own goal. That
- 16:42Speaker 1: was the klutziest soccer play I think I've ever seen.
- 16:47Speaker 1: All I heard about was those big tall, six foot
- 16:49Speaker 1: four inch Ausy defensemen that uh bring a different dynamic.
- 16:53Speaker 5: A yeah they do.
- 16:55Speaker 1: Yeah they they they're klutzes and one of them will
- 16:57Speaker 1: trip over himself and knock the ball in and do
- 17:00Speaker 1: our goals. So yeah, he totally burgessed it.
- 17:02Speaker 6: I didn't know the different dynamic was that they would
- 17:05Speaker 6: score for us, but hey.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Thanks, yeah. Yeah, I was pouring my coffee this morning,
- 17:10Speaker 1: spilled some on the counter. Totally burgess. Yeah, yeah, totally
- 17:14Speaker 1: burgess the moment. So yeah, my father, he's on his
- 17:18Speaker 1: third marriage, totally burgess the first time.
- 17:20Speaker 7: Poor guys.
- 17:21Speaker 1: See what I'm doing here, poor woman, See what I'm
- 17:22Speaker 1: trying to establish? Yeah, I am.
- 17:24Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's going to catch on
- 17:26Speaker 5: to the American vernacular.
- 17:27Speaker 7: It's already catching on to me.
- 17:28Speaker 1: Argentina and France will play today. The US won't play
- 17:32Speaker 1: again until Thursday. They've already punched their ticket into the
- 17:35Speaker 1: round of sixteen because they've won the group, but might
- 17:40Speaker 1: as well go for the suite they'll take on Turkey
- 17:43Speaker 1: on Thursday. I think they pronounced a little differently now.
- 17:46Speaker 1: They certainly spell it differently now, But it's been Turkey
- 17:51Speaker 1: all of our lives. So I'm just gonna go with
- 17:53Speaker 1: the close enough. NBA Draft is tomorrow.
- 17:57Speaker 5: That's right.
- 17:58Speaker 1: We are on NBA Draft Eve. A lot of interesting elements.
- 18:01Speaker 1: They're talking about this being one of the most loaded
- 18:04Speaker 1: NBA drafts in a while, at least ten years, maybe more,
- 18:08Speaker 1: and so that's going to be exciting enough. But we
- 18:11Speaker 1: also have a lot of these outstanding trade possibilities that
- 18:15Speaker 1: could go down between now and tomorrow. The expectation is
- 18:19Speaker 1: that Jannis Atatkompo will be traded today at some point.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Doesn't really make sense to trade him after the draft,
- 18:28Speaker 1: so Milwaukee looks like they're going to move him, and
- 18:31Speaker 1: the rumors suggest it's either Miami or Boston, with Boston
- 18:36Speaker 1: being a serious front runner at this point. Brian Winhorse
- 18:39Speaker 1: reporting earlier today that Boston willing to include Jalen Brown
- 18:44Speaker 1: in that trade, So we'll talk about that a little
- 18:47Speaker 1: bit later on, And of course Milwaukee wouldn't keep Jalen Brown.
- 18:50Speaker 5: The rumor is that he would be going to Portland
- 18:53Speaker 5: after that, which here in Seattle we won an expansion franchise.
- 18:58Speaker 5: But we also understand that perhaps Portland might move here.
- 19:02Speaker 5: That's a possibility, might be a small possibility. But all
- 19:06Speaker 5: of a sudden, I'm starting to drive in here to
- 19:09Speaker 5: work behind all my red lights, thinking to myself, it
- 19:12Speaker 5: wouldn't be so bad rooting for Jalen Brown in a
- 19:15Speaker 5: Sonics uniform right out of the chute.
- 19:17Speaker 1: That's not so bad, all right, So Storm, we'll host
- 19:21Speaker 1: Dallas tonight at seven o'clock. The Kraken made huge moves yesterday,
- 19:27Speaker 1: and I'm sorry to bury it down into the headlines,
- 19:30Speaker 1: but we have a lot prepared today for Kracking conversation.
- 19:36Speaker 1: Ashley and I will certainly talk about the re signing
- 19:39Speaker 1: of McMahon and then the trade for Samuskevitch from Florida.
- 19:44Speaker 5: So those are the two big moves yesterday with.
- 19:47Speaker 1: The Krack and giving up their first round pick for
- 19:50Speaker 1: the twenty three year old former first rounder of the
- 19:53Speaker 1: Florida Panthers who were trying to clear space themselves to
- 19:57Speaker 1: bring in Brady Kachuck to team with his brother Matthew.
- 20:00Speaker 1: And a big trade that went down yesterday as well.
- 20:03Speaker 1: So We've got a lot of crack and stuff to
- 20:05Speaker 1: talk about. They said it was going to be a
- 20:08Speaker 1: rather impactful offseason. Well we got a taste of that yesterday.
- 20:12Speaker 1: Everett's gonna join us evert fits you at eight o'clock. Also,
- 20:15Speaker 1: the man that pulled the trigger on both the moves,
- 20:17Speaker 1: General manager Jason Bottrel, will join us today at nine
- 20:21Speaker 1: to thirty. Seahawks one series is going to continue today
- 20:25Speaker 1: at seven thirty. Today. We will also have our Seahawks
- 20:29Speaker 1: one Series recap today at eight forty five. The Mariners
- 20:33Speaker 1: defeated the Red Sox, salvage the game from that three
- 20:36Speaker 1: game ugly series at home against the Red Sox over
- 20:39Speaker 1: the weekend, so they get back over at five hundred.
- 20:42Speaker 1: They're still a first place team, but man, another weekend
- 20:46Speaker 1: of angry ass Mariner fans all weekend long and social media.
- 20:51Speaker 5: It's crazy.
- 20:52Speaker 1: Ryan Heally will join us today at nine o'clock to
- 20:55Speaker 1: discuss the piggyback, whether.
- 20:57Speaker 5: Or not we're going to be losing dom can Zone
- 20:59Speaker 5: for a while.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Who probably is our best and hottest hitter right now,
- 21:03Speaker 1: and yet he left the game yesterday with a hamstring.
- 21:06Speaker 5: He says it's fine. Didn't look fine.
- 21:09Speaker 1: It did not look fine, So I'm not expecting good
- 21:12Speaker 1: news on that front today. I'm expecting at least a
- 21:15Speaker 1: ten day trip on the IL. But we'll find out
- 21:19Speaker 1: later on today. Coming up, next, Mariner's Morning After comes
- 21:23Speaker 1: your way. It's our daily Mariners postgame show. So that's
- 21:27Speaker 1: why I saved it for last.
- 21:29Speaker 5: In the headlines, because I knew we were going to
- 21:31Speaker 5: dive in deep.
- 21:32Speaker 1: Next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
- 21:42Speaker 4: Ali has a step on Charicatti Ballagan to the poeline,
- 21:45Speaker 4: ball again into the middle dead.
- 21:47Speaker 1: It's the United States once again on the borderly Riccardo
- 21:53Speaker 1: Peppy was in?
- 21:54Speaker 4: Was it perhaps last off the defender?
- 21:56Speaker 1: Who cares?
- 21:56Speaker 4: It's one Milius Robinson issing it back? Sargenial desk blocks
- 22:02Speaker 4: still in.
- 22:03Speaker 1: Might be two is too or maybe not?
- 22:07Speaker 4: The flag comes up for offside video Looking at it now,
- 22:11Speaker 4: here's the decision off to fetch your review.
- 22:14Speaker 1: The ghost scar was not an offside quosition and the
- 22:21Speaker 1: building shakes in Seattle.
- 22:28Speaker 5: I didn't understand why that wasn't offside.
- 22:32Speaker 6: Hey, I just cheered when they said it wasn't. He
- 22:34Speaker 6: also the way he said it, I was like, couldn't
- 22:37Speaker 6: have made that more confusing after official review the goal
- 22:40Speaker 6: scorer wasn't in the off sides we can just say
- 22:44Speaker 6: it's not offside goal.
- 22:46Speaker 1: Yeah, totally burgessed that call. Totally burgess it. Good morning
- 22:50Speaker 1: to you and welcome to our seven o'clock hour. It's
- 22:52Speaker 1: Chuck Powin Ashley Ryan with you. What a day was Friday?
- 22:56Speaker 1: Man and Seattle show out on Friday. Those highlights from
- 22:59Speaker 1: our very broadcast they heard on our very airwaves as
- 23:03Speaker 1: we covered the game, carried the game, didn't really cover it,
- 23:06Speaker 1: carried the game here on Sports Radio ninety three point
- 23:10Speaker 1: three kJ RFM. A two nil shutout of Australia. I
- 23:14Speaker 1: was just it was just wonderful, like how well Seattle
- 23:19Speaker 1: is being received for all of this, how well it
- 23:22Speaker 1: all went down on Friday, how well Aussie's and Americans
- 23:27Speaker 1: got along together. There was just like such a respect
- 23:30Speaker 1: for one another. I mean, it was just a feel
- 23:32Speaker 1: good kind of day on Friday. And then to come
- 23:37Speaker 1: away here on our soil with a two nil shutout
- 23:40Speaker 1: of Australia and to win the group in essence on
- 23:45Speaker 1: Friday night. Actually you didn't win the group until later
- 23:48Speaker 1: on in the evening, but just a terrific experience and
- 23:53Speaker 1: glad I got to be a little bit of a
- 23:55Speaker 1: part of it. On Friday, welcome into our number two.
- 23:59Speaker 1: Let's take a look at your headlines. They're brought to
- 24:01Speaker 1: you by Frost Brewed Corps. Light World Cup, of course,
- 24:04Speaker 1: continues today, and you're gonna have two of the biggest
- 24:07Speaker 1: teams in the entire world. Argentina and MESSI will be
- 24:10Speaker 1: playing tonight. France and Imbape will be playing tonight. Meanwhile,
- 24:14Speaker 1: the US won't return to the pitch until Thursday. They'll
- 24:17Speaker 1: be in Los Angeles taking on Turkey or turkey a
- 24:21Speaker 1: which I guess they've changed the spelling and the pronunciation after.
- 24:26Speaker 5: Years of textbook reading.
- 24:29Speaker 1: They've just decided, you know what, we don't want to
- 24:31Speaker 1: be associated after all with the birds.
- 24:34Speaker 5: You guys eat it at Thanksgiving and.
- 24:37Speaker 6: I could understand that unless you're gonna call them like
- 24:39Speaker 6: turkey and stuffing, because nobody just wants turkey.
- 24:42Speaker 7: That's the problem.
- 24:43Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, I have no I'm gonna look into this. Okay,
- 24:46Speaker 1: if there is like a state within Turkey that is
- 24:49Speaker 1: called stuffing, they'd be like, hey, we spell with a pH,
- 24:52Speaker 1: it's stuffing.
- 24:53Speaker 7: And I'd be like, that's all right, put it on
- 24:55Speaker 7: my plate.
- 24:56Speaker 1: I want to look into this. If there is one,
- 24:59Speaker 1: I'm gonna be just blown away. If there isn't one,
- 25:01Speaker 1: there should there should be other headlines for you. Wyndham
- 25:05Speaker 1: Clark the Hotel takes his second US Open yesterday. He
- 25:09Speaker 1: held on on day number four to win it by
- 25:12Speaker 1: a stroke over Sam Byrn. Some good theater there. NBA
- 25:16Speaker 1: Draft is going to take place tomorrow. This is one
- 25:18Speaker 1: of the most anticipated drafts and quite some time we
- 25:21Speaker 1: still don't know who the Wizards are going to take
- 25:24Speaker 1: with the number one overall selection. It's either going to
- 25:27Speaker 1: be Darren Peterson out of Kansas or aj Debonsa out
- 25:30Speaker 1: of Byu, or so it seems. But between now and
- 25:34Speaker 1: tomorrow night, we are expecting to see a couple of
- 25:37Speaker 1: major blockbuster trades go down, including one involving Yannis.
- 25:43Speaker 5: Ante Tecumpo, who, according.
- 25:45Speaker 1: To Brian Winhorse today could be adding to the Boston
- 25:48Speaker 1: Celtics as the Celtics are all in trying to get
- 25:51Speaker 1: Yannis and may have reached their limits with Jaden Brown.
- 25:56Speaker 1: Jaden Brown, they said, according to Windhorst, will trade Jaden
- 26:00Speaker 1: Brown Jalen Brown in order to get Yannis. So, man,
- 26:05Speaker 1: you put that into a trade package. I mean, I
- 26:07Speaker 1: can't imagine you'd have to give much more than Brown
- 26:10Speaker 1: to get Yannis.
- 26:11Speaker 7: I wouldn't think so.
- 26:12Speaker 1: Yeah, And so it looks like that's the front runner
- 26:15Speaker 1: right now, the Boston Celtics getting Jannis and adding him
- 26:19Speaker 1: to the Jason Tatum picture.
- 26:21Speaker 5: They're in Massachusetts.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Also storm hosting Dallas tonight at seven o'clock. Kraken made
- 26:28Speaker 1: two big moves yesterday. They re signed Bobby McMahon. They
- 26:32Speaker 1: extended him six years, thirty four and a half million
- 26:34Speaker 1: dollars for the guy that scored ten goals in just
- 26:38Speaker 1: eighteen games at the tail end of last season for
- 26:42Speaker 1: the Kraken also pulled off a trade traded at first
- 26:44Speaker 1: rounder this year a second rounder next year for twenty
- 26:47Speaker 1: three year old Mackie Samuskevitch from the Florida Panthers, who
- 26:51Speaker 1: made the trade in order to clear some space to
- 26:54Speaker 1: bring in the other Kachuck. So, yes, Matthew and Brady
- 26:57Speaker 1: Kachuck not just teammates on Team USA, now teammates with the.
- 27:01Speaker 5: Florida Panthers as well.
- 27:02Speaker 1: In a blockbuster there yesterday from the NHL, we have
- 27:06Speaker 1: our Seahawks one series. It's gonna continue a little bit
- 27:09Speaker 1: later on this hour, and of course at eight forty
- 27:13Speaker 1: five our Seahawks one series recap, and the Mariners won
- 27:17Speaker 1: three to one over the Red Sox, salvaging a game
- 27:20Speaker 1: in the series against the Boston Red Sox. Ryan Heally's
- 27:23Speaker 1: gonna join us at nine o'clock today to talk about
- 27:26Speaker 1: a lot of juicy topics. I'm going to get into
- 27:28Speaker 1: a few of them here in a little bit as well.
- 27:31Speaker 1: I'll just tell you Logan Gilbert was terrific, got the win,
- 27:34Speaker 1: Andre's Munos terrific, got the save. But the best player
- 27:37Speaker 1: of the day was Dom Canzone a home run, maybe
- 27:41Speaker 1: the best defensive plays made of his entire career. And
- 27:44Speaker 1: then he leaves with another injury. So we have another
- 27:47Speaker 1: injury that we're dealing with. Looks like a hammy and hammys.
- 27:51Speaker 1: I don't know if you can just say I'll be
- 27:53Speaker 1: fine after that. I don't think he's gonna be fine.
- 27:56Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be We're gonna find out later
- 27:58Speaker 1: today that were without Dom can Zone for a little while.
- 28:02Speaker 5: So just rough.
- 28:03Speaker 7: I don't like to hear that we're on a rough stretch. Yeah,
- 28:05Speaker 7: we are yeah.
- 28:06Speaker 1: When it comes to injuries and yet part of the game,
- 28:10Speaker 1: and so here they sit a game over five hundred.
- 28:13Speaker 1: But they really did not play well over the weekend.
- 28:16Speaker 1: And they really, I mean, the kryptonite has been revealed.
- 28:19Speaker 1: I think even Aaron used the word kryptonite. We were
- 28:22Speaker 1: using it first. But they just can't hit left handers.
- 28:26Speaker 1: And even though we've got a few different topics that
- 28:29Speaker 1: I want to rifle through here, including the piggyback, which
- 28:32Speaker 1: we'll get to in a moment, I think that this
- 28:34Speaker 1: conversation over the weekend starts with the left handers. I mean,
- 28:39Speaker 1: teams are just the Red Sox didn't do it. Suarez
- 28:43Speaker 1: is their best pitcher. Early and totally are both two
- 28:48Speaker 1: young pitchers who are very talented. They have a lot
- 28:51Speaker 1: of left handed starters, but they certainly if they could
- 28:56Speaker 1: choose to stack them up against a team, it would
- 28:58Speaker 1: be against the Mariners.
- 29:00Speaker 5: We are just bad.
- 29:01Speaker 1: We are dead last and batting average against left handed
- 29:04Speaker 1: pitching at two to oh eight DFL, dead freaking last.
- 29:11Speaker 1: We have a two ninety two on base percentage actually
- 29:14Speaker 1: twenty ninth out of thirty teams, and on base so
- 29:17Speaker 1: we'll get a walk every.
- 29:18Speaker 5: Once in a while, you better believe.
- 29:20Speaker 8: It slogging DFL, dead freaking last three twenty six and
- 29:26Speaker 8: all of Major League Baseball ops six eighteen DFL.
- 29:32Speaker 7: I don't like the trend.
- 29:33Speaker 1: I'm here here dead freaking last, and I know they're
- 29:37Speaker 1: gonna give it a little while longer. I've you know,
- 29:40Speaker 1: it's probably too early for trades. We're not seeing the
- 29:43Speaker 1: trade deadline moves. I love the month of June because
- 29:47Speaker 1: it is trade deadline, Like trade deadline season is here,
- 29:50Speaker 1: and I feel like in June we're freed to kind
- 29:53Speaker 1: of speculate as to what could happen between now and
- 29:57Speaker 1: Actually it's August second this year, that's when the trade
- 29:59Speaker 1: deadline is. Usually it's July thirty first, and so we've
- 30:03Speaker 1: got a little bit of time. But we're already getting
- 30:06Speaker 1: the conversation started, and there's no question that this is
- 30:09Speaker 1: going to have to be addressed. I do believe that
- 30:11Speaker 1: Jerry's going to give this a little bit more time,
- 30:14Speaker 1: much to the chagrin of Mariner fans who want Rob
- 30:17Speaker 1: Refschneiner run out on a rail. But I do believe
- 30:20Speaker 1: they're going to give him a little bit more time.
- 30:23Speaker 1: And don't I don't really know what to tell people.
- 30:28Speaker 1: This continues to backfire. But I don't want my front
- 30:32Speaker 1: office to stop making moves like this. I don't want
- 30:36Speaker 1: my front office just to not look at a player,
- 30:41Speaker 1: a veteran player on the cheap who dominates left handed
- 30:45Speaker 1: pitching for the last five years and is coming off
- 30:47Speaker 1: a dominant season, and that Boston Red Sox fans are
- 30:50Speaker 1: weeping because Rob Refsnyders is leaving. You know, these these maneuvers,
- 30:56Speaker 1: even going back to Colton Wong. Colton Wong was coming
- 30:58Speaker 1: off of three and a half war season, which is
- 31:01Speaker 1: terrific for a second baseman. I don't know what it is.
- 31:06Speaker 1: I don't There's nothing that I can come up with
- 31:08Speaker 1: to explain it. I don't think they were dumb moves.
- 31:12Speaker 1: I don't think it was a dumb move to bring
- 31:14Speaker 1: in Mitch Garver as your DH. And certainly, even if
- 31:20Speaker 1: he can't hit right, he's consistently enough he's going to
- 31:23Speaker 1: crush lefties because he was supposed hit both if you remember.
- 31:26Speaker 7: Okay, I don't remember, back when he was to hit.
- 31:28Speaker 5: Yeah, he was suppose hit both.
- 31:30Speaker 1: And yet Pollock was supposed to be a lefty killer,
- 31:35Speaker 1: was coming off a season where he was killing lefties.
- 31:37Speaker 5: Raf Snyder was supposed to. It just doesn't work out.
- 31:40Speaker 1: I mean, if there's a criticism against the Mariners, they're
- 31:44Speaker 1: obviously not good at reading the future.
- 31:48Speaker 5: When a veteran player who brings.
- 31:52Speaker 1: An interesting skill set to the table is going to
- 31:56Speaker 1: hit a wall. Or maybe it has something to do
- 31:58Speaker 1: with the backdrop, I don't know, but it is just
- 32:03Speaker 1: a string of every time they bring in like a
- 32:07Speaker 1: guy at the tail end of his career but is
- 32:10Speaker 1: still showing he's a productive player, it does not work out,
- 32:14Speaker 1: and it crashes and burns. I mean, Colton Wong was
- 32:18Speaker 1: the worst player in baseball.
- 32:20Speaker 5: That year he was here.
- 32:21Speaker 1: Oh, I remember that he was the worst, And I
- 32:24Speaker 1: mean I spent an entire offseason like, oh, I like
- 32:26Speaker 1: that move was the worst. And then Pollock was terrible?
- 32:33Speaker 1: Why how? And then he by the way he went
- 32:35Speaker 1: on to another team was no better. He literally just
- 32:38Speaker 1: hit the wall. Both of those guys, they just hit
- 32:40Speaker 1: the wall of their career and no one really saw
- 32:44Speaker 1: that coming. But it's happening time after time after time,
- 32:48Speaker 1: and now it looks like ref Sniders hit the wall.
- 32:51Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like he hits with any confidence at all
- 32:54Speaker 1: at the plate, and he certainly doesn't bring enough to
- 32:57Speaker 1: the table and other areas that you can just to
- 33:00Speaker 1: fire a roster spot for him. He has to hit
- 33:02Speaker 1: left handers. That's why he's here. And Justin and Jerry
- 33:06Speaker 1: are gonna give it a little while longer. But yeah, Ashley, Yeah,
- 33:10Speaker 1: we're getting to the tipping point. We're getting to the
- 33:13Speaker 1: point where we can't have him in the lineup. And
- 33:15Speaker 1: for God's sake, whoever is making out the lineup, Rob
- 33:19Speaker 1: Refsnyder hits ninth until he proves otherwise.
- 33:22Speaker 7: I think that's fair.
- 33:23Speaker 1: This idea of hitting him first or fourth or fifth,
- 33:26Speaker 1: You are out of your living minds.
- 33:30Speaker 6: Yeah, because isn't the point of the person who's leading
- 33:32Speaker 6: off to get on base and then, I don't know,
- 33:34Speaker 6: spark something.
- 33:35Speaker 1: Well, Also, you're dealing with somebody that obviously is not
- 33:38Speaker 1: playing with any level of confidence. You don't instill confidence
- 33:44Speaker 1: in a person without confidence by putting him in a
- 33:46Speaker 1: more high leverage situation. Yeah, you think you're doing him
- 33:51Speaker 1: a favor.
- 33:51Speaker 5: We have faith in you.
- 33:52Speaker 1: Hit first first. No, you need to bury him down
- 33:57Speaker 1: the lineup and then he can maybe get a little
- 34:00Speaker 1: confidence brewing down there at eight and ninth. Now he's
- 34:04Speaker 1: going into the game like, oh my gosh, they made
- 34:06Speaker 1: me the table setter. Oh my gosh, if I don't
- 34:09Speaker 1: get on base I failed. And then and then two
- 34:12Speaker 1: days later, oh I'm eeting fourth What I got to
- 34:17Speaker 1: drive in? Runs like it's baffling why that decision is
- 34:21Speaker 1: being made, And I really don't know. I will tell
- 34:24Speaker 1: you this, like Dan, A lot of people think Jerry
- 34:28Speaker 1: and Justin are Jerry specifically is making all the decisions.
- 34:31Speaker 5: That's not true.
- 34:33Speaker 1: I have had Jerry and Justin both tell me off
- 34:35Speaker 1: the air on the air that Dan Wilson makes the
- 34:39Speaker 1: lineup and Dan Wilson makes the decisions in game. There's
- 34:43Speaker 1: no phone that we reached. I don't text him during
- 34:46Speaker 1: the game, none of that. Now, I do believe that
- 34:49Speaker 1: they all meet every single game and talk about strategy,
- 34:52Speaker 1: and maybe they do as a collective piece together the
- 34:56Speaker 1: lineup and share their thoughts and so on and so forth.
- 35:00Speaker 1: But whoever is making that final decision, I'm just gonna
- 35:04Speaker 1: put it on Dan. If you're walking out of that
- 35:06Speaker 1: room and by the time you get down to the
- 35:08Speaker 1: dugout and grab your pen and you've convinced yourself. It's
- 35:11Speaker 1: a good idea to lead off Rob Reschneider.
- 35:13Speaker 7: Right now, shove that pen somewhere.
- 35:17Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe just stop and give me a call.
- 35:19Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, on your way from the you know, from
- 35:23Speaker 1: upstairs to your pen.
- 35:26Speaker 5: They just shoot me a text.
- 35:27Speaker 7: That'd be nice.
- 35:29Speaker 6: I mean, and I understand with ref Schneider. Yeah, as
- 35:31Speaker 6: you said, the point he's here, he's supposed to hit lefties.
- 35:33Speaker 7: Well he's not doing that.
- 35:35Speaker 6: And so I got angry the other day when I
- 35:37Speaker 6: saw that the dfade Master Bony and I'm like, and
- 35:40Speaker 6: then he was playing well, yeah exactly. And then I
- 35:42Speaker 6: think that was the night they had ref Schneider leading off,
- 35:44Speaker 6: and I was like, no, you are not doing this.
- 35:48Speaker 1: I don't understand the Master Boney. I mean, they were
- 35:50Speaker 1: trying to bring in a right handed hitter because they
- 35:53Speaker 1: knew they were going to face three lefties this weekend,
- 35:55Speaker 1: and so that was the feeling behind that. But it's
- 35:59Speaker 1: just I don't know what it is, but they cannot
- 36:03Speaker 1: find right handed hitters to fulfill what their scouting reports suggests.
- 36:10Speaker 1: That is their expertise, their speciality, yep, And every time
- 36:16Speaker 1: that they get here they don't. They don't not only
- 36:19Speaker 1: don't live up to it, they just crash and they burn.
- 36:23Speaker 1: So they're going to do it for a little while longer.
- 36:25Speaker 1: But it's becoming more and more obvious every day as
- 36:28Speaker 1: we get closer to the trading deadline that they are
- 36:30Speaker 1: running out of time on a couple of these experiments
- 36:34Speaker 1: and that the number one priority will be and every
- 36:38Speaker 1: day hits lefties and righties Byron Buxton type. I know
- 36:43Speaker 1: he's saying he won't. I'm just saying a Byron Buxton type.
- 36:46Speaker 1: Just I'm proven veteran corner outfielder that can play every day.
- 36:51Speaker 7: That'd be great.
- 36:51Speaker 1: That's what has got to be the priority at this
- 36:55Speaker 1: stage as we close in on the trading dead and
- 36:58Speaker 1: we're still a long way away from it. Let's talk
- 37:00Speaker 1: about the piggyback. Obviously we had a piggy backslide.
- 37:04Speaker 7: We did. It was a rough day for the.
- 37:06Speaker 1: Piggyback, yes, we and we've had plenty of piggyback lash,
- 37:14Speaker 1: and yeah, it took me piggy aback did it a
- 37:18Speaker 1: little bit? I was taking I was taking Piggy a
- 37:20Speaker 1: back a little bit as well. I mean, there really
- 37:23Speaker 1: is it, and that is the scenario for anybody that's
- 37:28Speaker 1: defended the Piggyback like Ashley and I have, that's the
- 37:31Speaker 1: one you fear. Yep, it's not that. I mean Castillo
- 37:36Speaker 1: has pitched better. His era has dropped a full run
- 37:39Speaker 1: since the Piggyback started, so he certainly pitched better. Problem
- 37:44Speaker 1: is that you keep teaming him with Miller, who's our
- 37:46Speaker 1: best guy, right right, And and I don't think Bryce
- 37:52Speaker 1: Miller's too happy with the fact that I've already done
- 37:55Speaker 1: this three times and now you're saying we're all going
- 37:59Speaker 1: to do it and you're star with me and Luis again. Really,
- 38:04Speaker 1: so to me, there are again. I'm not going to
- 38:09Speaker 1: paddle off of this. I went pretty strong on this
- 38:12Speaker 1: last week. There has been more good. There still is
- 38:15Speaker 1: even after Saturday. There's been more good from the Piggyback
- 38:19Speaker 1: than there has been bad from the Piggyback. Now go
- 38:23Speaker 1: back to my original comments about all of this. Too
- 38:26Speaker 1: many pitchers for too few slots. I mean, I said
- 38:29Speaker 1: from the beginning, Luis Castillo I think would be an
- 38:31Speaker 1: effective reliever as long as you can convince him correct
- 38:34Speaker 1: that that's a role that could be beneficial to the team.
- 38:37Speaker 5: So I do.
- 38:39Speaker 1: Believe that when the experiment is over. That's going to
- 38:42Speaker 1: be the end result of all of this, that Luis
- 38:45Speaker 1: Castillo is going to be out of the bullpen. Now,
- 38:48Speaker 1: it looks like we're gonna have to do this for
- 38:49Speaker 1: a couple more weeks because they've already sworn themselves to
- 38:52Speaker 1: this idea that we're going to piggyback everybody through the
- 38:56Speaker 1: rotation at some point over the next three spins. So
- 39:00Speaker 1: they're going to do it a couple more times, it
- 39:02Speaker 1: looks like. But I do believe the end result of
- 39:05Speaker 1: this experiment will be that Luis Castill's in the bullpen,
- 39:08Speaker 1: we go back to a five man rotation, and that
- 39:11Speaker 1: Bryce Miller is going to be our best pitcher.
- 39:13Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 39:13Speaker 1: I don't ever want to see him piggyback again. That
- 39:16Speaker 1: is already less and number one from this experiment. Bryce
- 39:19Speaker 1: does not need this.
- 39:21Speaker 6: Well, And to be fair, we had said that we
- 39:24Speaker 6: didn't want to see Bryce Miller and Luise piggybacking last week.
- 39:28Speaker 1: Oh for sure, though we're.
- 39:29Speaker 7: Done with it.
- 39:29Speaker 6: Yeah, it needed to be with someone else, and we
- 39:32Speaker 6: both wanted the piggyback back, but with other pitchers involved,
- 39:36Speaker 6: not Bryce Miller for sure.
- 39:38Speaker 7: And this is exactly why, Yeah.
- 39:39Speaker 5: For sure, yes, but.
- 39:43Speaker 1: There are, like I said before, there were merits to it.
- 39:46Speaker 1: Castillo has pitched better, Miller's been fantastic, whether he's been
- 39:49Speaker 1: taken out of games or not. Now, this is where
- 39:52Speaker 1: it does hurt, because here's Bryce and he's pitching well,
- 39:56Speaker 1: and he's got his pitch count in great position, and
- 40:00Speaker 1: everybody knows that he should stay in the game.
- 40:04Speaker 5: And yet you've already committed to Castillo.
- 40:06Speaker 1: Coming in in the sixth, and he was fine in
- 40:08Speaker 1: the sixth on Friday, he got hammered in the seventh.
- 40:13Speaker 5: I mean, those were some of.
- 40:14Speaker 1: The hardest hit balls I've seen all season long. He
- 40:18Speaker 1: was fooling no One in that game last night. And
- 40:21Speaker 1: so that really is the nightmare, even more so than
- 40:25Speaker 1: the moon yos can't close out with the traffic that
- 40:29Speaker 1: he inherited back in Piggyback one. Even more so than that,
- 40:33Speaker 1: it is the starting pitcher looks fine, but you're really
- 40:37Speaker 1: going to take him out because you've committed to this
- 40:41Speaker 1: theory of yours. So yeah, it was it was sort
- 40:45Speaker 1: of a.
- 40:46Speaker 5: Well that didn't work.
- 40:47Speaker 1: Now, you don't have to talk an anti Piggyback person
- 40:51Speaker 1: into just taking one game that did blow up in
- 40:54Speaker 1: their face and then unleashing hell throughout an entire weekend. Yeah,
- 41:01Speaker 1: all right, it didn't work out on Friday. I'll be
- 41:04Speaker 1: the first to admit it. I still think there's been
- 41:06Speaker 1: more good that's come from it. And frankly, Dan Wilson's
- 41:11Speaker 1: biggest issue is managing a bullpen. Hey, here's a guy
- 41:15Speaker 1: that ran out of pitchers in the middle of a
- 41:20Speaker 1: series against the Baltimore Orioles. And it's because for some reason,
- 41:25Speaker 1: we only pitch our four top guys in ideal circumstances.
- 41:32Speaker 1: Gabe Spier pitched yesterday. That was his second appearance in
- 41:35Speaker 1: twelve days. He went eleven days, a third of an inning.
- 41:42Speaker 1: He and he's been our best guy. Jose Ferrer two
- 41:46Speaker 1: innings pitched in the last twelve days. How are you
- 41:50Speaker 1: running out of relievers? This is why, because you keep
- 41:53Speaker 1: saving every your four best guys for ideal situations. We're
- 41:58Speaker 1: down two hoppy time.
- 42:01Speaker 7: Yeah, this time, this.
- 42:03Speaker 1: Game's over, so we're not. You can't lengthen the bullpen
- 42:09Speaker 1: because because if you're gonna use all those guys in
- 42:11Speaker 1: a cluster, then you're gonna burn them out. If you're
- 42:15Speaker 1: having a series of victories as opposed to if you
- 42:21Speaker 1: space them out a little bit better, then you keep
- 42:24Speaker 1: everyone a little bit fresher. I don't want to hear. Oh, gosh, boy,
- 42:28Speaker 1: Okabe can't pitch Gabe and Gabe again today and Bizardo
- 42:32Speaker 1: they're out.
- 42:33Speaker 6: Yeah, guys, sorry, we used Gabe six days ago, we
- 42:35Speaker 6: can't use them today.
- 42:36Speaker 1: Well, even I don't even want to hear that you
- 42:38Speaker 1: can't use them back to back days.
- 42:40Speaker 5: I don't want to hear that anymore.
- 42:42Speaker 1: Like I mean, game Spier was giving the month off
- 42:45Speaker 1: coming off an injury. So Dan Wilson needs the aid
- 42:52Speaker 1: of the piggyback right now because of his bullpen usage.
- 42:57Speaker 1: But everybody was so well rested on Friday that it
- 43:02Speaker 1: was another thing to be angry about, Like, we don't
- 43:06Speaker 1: need the piggyback on Friday. We have two guys that
- 43:10Speaker 1: haven't pitched in two weeks, and so it was another
- 43:15Speaker 1: example of look, something that we've never seen done before.
- 43:20Speaker 1: It is an experiment.
- 43:21Speaker 5: I get it.
- 43:22Speaker 1: Why are we experimenting with something like this in the
- 43:24Speaker 1: middle of the season. Frankly, they want to keep Luis
- 43:26Speaker 1: Castillo stretched out. That's why they wanted to do it
- 43:29Speaker 1: in case they need him to be a starting pitcher again.
- 43:32Speaker 1: But it's feeling very much like we're going to conduct
- 43:34Speaker 1: this experiment.
- 43:35Speaker 5: We got two more trials, and to the.
- 43:37Speaker 1: End of it, it's going to be the exact same
- 43:39Speaker 1: result is that probably should have been at the beginning
- 43:42Speaker 1: of the experiment, and that is that Luis Castillo is
- 43:45Speaker 1: coming out of the bullpen because we've got five starting
- 43:48Speaker 1: pitchers better than him. Yeah, and Kate Anderson is probably
- 43:51Speaker 1: also better than him. So yeah, we ran through it.
- 43:57Speaker 1: I thought it was an interesting idea. I still think
- 43:59Speaker 1: more so it's come of it then bad, but I
- 44:02Speaker 1: do I will side with the anti piggyback.
- 44:04Speaker 5: People from this standpoint. I think we all felt.
- 44:08Speaker 1: Just pick the best guys, the five best guys in
- 44:11Speaker 1: the rotation, and the sixth guy, sorry, you're gonna work
- 44:14Speaker 1: out of the bullpen unless there's an injury. Yes, And
- 44:17Speaker 1: so that's where I think we're going to end up
- 44:20Speaker 1: after all of this as well, the exact same thing
- 44:23Speaker 1: we were thinking at the beginning. Luis Castillo's now one
- 44:27Speaker 1: of our top five starting pitchers and he's.
- 44:29Speaker 5: Got to go to the bullpen.
- 44:30Speaker 7: Just going to take us along lot way long time
- 44:32Speaker 7: to get there.
- 44:33Speaker 1: All right, Seahawks One Series is coming your way next
- 44:36Speaker 1: and we're going to the Bloggi Sphere. Sports Radio ninety
- 44:39Speaker 1: three point three KJRFM. We tracked down the Seahawks analyst
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- 44:46Speaker 1: one entire interview. And we always pay attention to the
- 44:49Speaker 1: blog world and also the podcast world as well. And
- 44:53Speaker 1: our next guest a very popular podcast, Seahawks Forever podcast,
- 44:59Speaker 1: Dan Vien's Lewins us here on Chuck and Buck to
- 45:02Speaker 1: participate for the first time in the Seahawks One Series.
- 45:05Speaker 9: Great to have you on, Dan, It's great to be
- 45:09Speaker 9: on Chuck. I appreciate it. And I knew something was up.
- 45:12Speaker 9: You know, whenever Ashley Ryan starts following you on Twitter,
- 45:15Speaker 9: you know something is brewing. But it's born and raised
- 45:19Speaker 9: in Seattle. I was raised on KJR Sports Radio. Admire
- 45:22Speaker 9: your work and I'm honored to be here with you.
- 45:25Speaker 1: Well, thank you, I appreciate it. Tell us about the
- 45:26Speaker 1: podcast before we start breaking down your player.
- 45:30Speaker 9: Yeah, it's kind of a full circle culmination of a
- 45:33Speaker 9: lifetime of being a Seahawks fan season ticket holder since
- 45:37Speaker 9: they were born and growing up with them, and then
- 45:40Speaker 9: also a full circle broadcast.
- 45:42Speaker 10: Moment many many years ago.
- 45:45Speaker 9: Got my degree in journalism from the esteem to Washington
- 45:48Speaker 9: State University, Go cooks and television, small market sports director
- 45:54Speaker 9: television for five six years, and then just you know,
- 45:58Speaker 9: real life got out, had to get jobs for a while.
- 46:01Speaker 9: But the Internet being what it is and as it
- 46:04Speaker 9: started to evolve, started writing for NFL websites again right
- 46:08Speaker 9: around the time the Seahawks went to Super Bowl forty
- 46:11Speaker 9: and then started podcasting in twenty eighteen. Launched this show
- 46:15Speaker 9: in twenty twenty three, and it's grown to the point
- 46:17Speaker 9: I can do this full time and I'm here.
- 46:18Speaker 4: With you today.
- 46:19Speaker 5: That's awesome. That's awesome.
- 46:20Speaker 1: Dan Viens is with us the Seahawks Forever podcast. You
- 46:23Speaker 1: can follow him at Seahawks Forever and he's here to
- 46:27Speaker 1: participate in our Seahawks one series. So what player did
- 46:30Speaker 1: you choose to break down for us here today?
- 46:34Speaker 9: So I'm a big sucker for the underrated player, the
- 46:37Speaker 9: guy that just doesn't quite get the attention that he deserves.
- 46:41Speaker 10: And for me, that's Julian Love.
- 46:43Speaker 9: When I'm out there, when live streams, I'm talking to
- 46:46Speaker 9: the fan base, I'm debating people on Twitter, and this
- 46:49Speaker 9: really is a statement to the depth and the total
- 46:52Speaker 9: quality and the talent and young talent all throughout this roster.
- 46:55Speaker 10: I don't think he gets talked about enough.
- 46:57Speaker 9: He's certainly not one of the first guys that fans
- 47:00Speaker 9: bring up, and.
- 47:01Speaker 10: I think that's a mistake.
- 47:02Speaker 9: Some of that might be that he missed some games
- 47:04Speaker 9: last year and that we saw guys like Tyle Cotta
- 47:07Speaker 9: step up and play well in his absence. But when
- 47:09Speaker 9: he was on the field, he was top ten in
- 47:13Speaker 9: production and performance. Doesn't matter what metrics you prefer.
- 47:17Speaker 10: He was a top ten safety.
- 47:18Speaker 9: But you're getting him for top twenty money at the moment,
- 47:22Speaker 9: and I'm not so sure people are talking about him
- 47:24Speaker 9: enough when it comes to a year from now when
- 47:28Speaker 9: we talk about contract extensions and guys you're going to
- 47:30Speaker 9: want to stick around beyond their current deals.
- 47:32Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think when most of the time he
- 47:34Speaker 1: comes up, because he's surrounded by so many like freakish
- 47:36Speaker 1: athletes like Emon warr and Witherspoon and others who make
- 47:40Speaker 1: the spectacular plays were usually attached to him. The intangibles,
- 47:45Speaker 1: the intangibles that he brings to the table. But he's
- 47:48Speaker 1: and yes, he does bring them to the table. But
- 47:50Speaker 1: he's so much more than that. What is it about
- 47:52Speaker 1: his game that you admire most.
- 47:55Speaker 9: I think it's this stuff from the neck up. Now
- 47:58Speaker 9: you touched on it there. I just really struck by
- 48:00Speaker 9: that interview that Kirk Cousins did a couple of months ago.
- 48:03Speaker 9: I'm sure you've seen it where he talks about just
- 48:05Speaker 9: how complex Mike McDonald's coverage schemes are, and in particular,
- 48:10Speaker 9: how late in the play.
- 48:12Speaker 10: It reveals or they reveal.
- 48:13Speaker 9: Themselves, and that you know sometimes after the snap that
- 48:17Speaker 9: they rotate into the actual coverage they're playing, not the
- 48:20Speaker 9: one that they showed three snap.
- 48:22Speaker 10: And and I think he's he's front and center.
- 48:24Speaker 9: And at the forefront of that and being able to
- 48:26Speaker 9: make those calls, communicate what he's seeing to the other guys,
- 48:30Speaker 9: and uh, and then making plays. You know, we saw
- 48:33Speaker 9: that in the super Bowl. We saw the miked up
- 48:35Speaker 9: stuff and how smart he was. He knew that was
- 48:37Speaker 9: going to come to him and certainly it did. And
- 48:38Speaker 9: that was one of one of my favorite moments of
- 48:40Speaker 9: that game. And uh, and then it's he's one of
- 48:43Speaker 9: the glue guys. You know, he really really is on
- 48:46Speaker 9: this on this team. Exhibits everything they want in a
- 48:49Speaker 9: in a player culture wise, and I'm really excited to
- 48:54Speaker 9: see him take Bud Clark under his wing and see
- 48:56Speaker 9: if he can develop him.
- 48:58Speaker 10: That's that's gonna be a fun duo, i think. Movie forward.
- 49:00Speaker 1: Dan viens is with US Seahawks Forever podcast, part of
- 49:04Speaker 1: our Seahawks One series. Today one outstanding analyst bringing down
- 49:07Speaker 1: one key Seahawk player for one entire interview, and we
- 49:10Speaker 1: are talking Julian Love today. And he only played eight games,
- 49:13Speaker 1: which by football standards, as you know, that's he probably
- 49:17Speaker 1: played four or five healthy, you know, and gut it
- 49:20Speaker 1: out four or five games a year ago. So we
- 49:24Speaker 1: kind of forget about that. How much this defense came
- 49:27Speaker 1: together under Mike McDonald, and yet Julian Love, the glue,
- 49:32Speaker 1: as you put it, was only there for half the season,
- 49:35Speaker 1: and who knows how many games he actually played healthy.
- 49:38Speaker 1: So what kind of step forward do you expect this
- 49:42Speaker 1: defense to make, hopefully with a Julian Love playing all
- 49:46Speaker 1: seventeen games this year?
- 49:50Speaker 9: Yeah, and when guys get to be his age is
- 49:52Speaker 9: twenty eight years old now, it's and he's been durable, right,
- 49:56Speaker 9: You didn't miss any games in New York. He played
- 49:58Speaker 9: all seventeen games his first two years in even though
- 50:01Speaker 9: he looked healthy when he came back, and over the
- 50:03Speaker 9: last final or final five weeks in the season, he
- 50:05Speaker 9: was the top graded safety by PFF in the NFL,
- 50:09Speaker 9: So we certainly looked healthy.
- 50:10Speaker 5: But I always pause.
- 50:12Speaker 9: You always wonder, you know, with those soft tissue injuries,
- 50:14Speaker 9: especially if he can get out there and play seventeen
- 50:17Speaker 9: games again. But I think we've had a lot of
- 50:20Speaker 9: discussions the last couple of weeks with fans who said,
- 50:23Speaker 9: you know, if you set aside the fact that we
- 50:24Speaker 9: just won the Super Bowl, and that may seem like
- 50:27Speaker 9: a crazy statement, but bear with me here for a moment.
- 50:30Speaker 9: None of us really expected it to happen. Last year
- 50:32Speaker 9: was a year early. I think most of us agree
- 50:33Speaker 9: on that it's the year three in a Mike McDonald defense.
- 50:37Speaker 9: We've never gotten to see as good as that Baltimore
- 50:40Speaker 9: Ravens defense was.
- 50:41Speaker 10: And we saw the leap from year one to year
- 50:43Speaker 10: two there. Well, then he comes here.
- 50:46Speaker 9: We saw the leap from year one to year two
- 50:47Speaker 9: here as guys really really absorbed that system and understand it,
- 50:53Speaker 9: and now all the continuity. I think it's seven players
- 50:56Speaker 9: who played four hundred snaps last year on this defense.
- 50:59Speaker 9: You add some really really intriguing secondary players to that
- 51:03Speaker 9: defense in this year's draft class.
- 51:05Speaker 10: What kind of leap are we looking at now?
- 51:07Speaker 9: I mean McDonald even did late last season there were
- 51:10Speaker 9: some times that he had to kind of pull back
- 51:12Speaker 9: on the playbook where he was he was giving these
- 51:14Speaker 9: guys too much, especially on a short week. I remember
- 51:17Speaker 9: him talking about that relative to the Week sixteen game
- 51:20Speaker 9: against the Rams. So what's that going to look like
- 51:23Speaker 9: now in year three with all that continuity, all that leadership,
- 51:26Speaker 9: and then an infusion now of Bud Clark, Julie Neil,
- 51:29Speaker 9: maybe even some of those seventh round guys maybe step
- 51:32Speaker 9: forward for Tayo Kotta, maybe a Neami Pritchett emerging.
- 51:37Speaker 10: I'm really excited to see what it looks like in
- 51:39Speaker 10: year three.
- 51:39Speaker 1: You know, you know, I've never been like an actual
- 51:43Speaker 1: fan of a team. I've always whatever market I was in,
- 51:46Speaker 1: I was always the guy that kind of was treated
- 51:49Speaker 1: it like I'm not the fan guy. Well, you know,
- 51:52Speaker 1: you get to Seattle, it gets into your blood and
- 51:54Speaker 1: suddenly I'm treating it like a fan. So now I'm
- 51:56Speaker 1: kind of caught in between like I now root for
- 51:59Speaker 1: them heavily, and yet I still want to keep my
- 52:03Speaker 1: keen eye. I want to be unbiased when I talk
- 52:06Speaker 1: about this team and I'm hearing you describe Mike McDonald's defense,
- 52:11Speaker 1: and there are a lot of people across the country
- 52:13Speaker 1: Dan that feel, well, they'll take a step back in
- 52:16Speaker 1: these areas next year. And I don't think it's biased
- 52:20Speaker 1: when I say, I agree with you.
- 52:22Speaker 5: This is what the rest of.
- 52:23Speaker 1: The National Football League doesn't understand. The Seahawks are going
- 52:27Speaker 1: to be better this season. The defense is going to
- 52:30Speaker 1: be better this season. And I think that I speak
- 52:34Speaker 1: totally unbiased about it, and for a lot of the
- 52:38Speaker 1: reasons that you suggested. So what do we are we
- 52:41Speaker 1: just feeding ourselves a line of bowl here or do
- 52:44Speaker 1: you think that we got our finger on this.
- 52:48Speaker 10: I'd like to think.
- 52:49Speaker 9: As I get older, I get a little wiser, and
- 52:51Speaker 9: I try to keep myself in chat when it comes
- 52:54Speaker 9: to my unbridled optimism, and I try and balance it,
- 52:57Speaker 9: you know, I've always prided myself on trying to be
- 52:59Speaker 9: as object active as I can, uh, you know, and
- 53:02Speaker 9: balance it with the passion I think when it's it's hard,
- 53:06Speaker 9: it's hard to argue against the defense taking another step
- 53:10Speaker 9: because what they were able to achieve last year and
- 53:13Speaker 9: and it wasn't perfect. Certainly we got to solve that
- 53:15Speaker 9: Rams offense, you know, we gotta, we have to see
- 53:17Speaker 9: a step forward there. But you look at it wasn't
- 53:20Speaker 9: just Leonard Williams. It wasn't just DeMarcus Lawrence. It wasn't
- 53:25Speaker 9: just the older guys. It was Byron Murphy in his
- 53:27Speaker 9: second year taking a step forward.
- 53:28Speaker 5: It was Drake.
- 53:29Speaker 10: Thomas coming into his own.
- 53:33Speaker 9: Well, now you know we've seen especially up front, right,
- 53:35Speaker 9: those defensive guys, those linemen, it takes them a while
- 53:38Speaker 9: to mature. And I expect Bryant or this year we
- 53:42Speaker 9: get to see a full season of Riley Mills at
- 53:44Speaker 9: it to the mix, right, it's it's we we even
- 53:48Speaker 9: get to see I'm I'm a huge Drake Thomas stan
- 53:52Speaker 9: always have been.
- 53:53Speaker 10: But we didn't get to really see Tyree.
- 53:55Speaker 9: Knight last year because of some of the health issues
- 53:56Speaker 9: see had early in the season.
- 53:58Speaker 10: Maybe he figures into that mix. And then I mentioned
- 54:00Speaker 10: the young guys.
- 54:02Speaker 9: I think I do think there's another level that this
- 54:05Speaker 9: defense can achieve.
- 54:07Speaker 1: And we talk about love like because he's not one
- 54:10Speaker 1: of the young guy. He's only twenty eight. He's still
- 54:13Speaker 1: got a lot of football left in him, don't you think.
- 54:16Speaker 10: Absolutely?
- 54:17Speaker 9: Yeah, And that's why I mean, I ran some comps
- 54:19Speaker 9: this morning and I'm going to do an episode on
- 54:21Speaker 9: him today. You inspired me, and I think, like I said,
- 54:26Speaker 9: I don't think people are are talking enough about a
- 54:30Speaker 9: third contract for him because I think a year from
- 54:32Speaker 9: now Seahawks are going to want to get that done.
- 54:34Speaker 1: Excellent stuff. Dan, I'm glad we at John. We'll do
- 54:37Speaker 1: this again soon, if that's all right with you.
- 54:40Speaker 9: Absolutely Now you got my number, I promise I'll be
- 54:43Speaker 9: available to you.
- 54:44Speaker 10: You know where to find me, all right, Thank.
- 54:45Speaker 5: You, appreciate you.
- 54:47Speaker 1: Dan Vienn's joining us right here on Chuck and Buck
- 54:50Speaker 1: in the Morning Seahawks Forever podcast. If you want to
- 54:52Speaker 1: check it out at Seahawks Forever, give Dan a follow
- 54:56Speaker 1: the breakdown at Julian Love for you here today on
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- 56:23Speaker 3: Hello, sir, I currently am actually at Seabrook, Washington right now. Yeah.
- 56:32Speaker 3: We we came here last year with our family, and
- 56:36Speaker 3: this year we added a couple of in laws, a
- 56:39Speaker 3: couple of partners, and this has now become a yearly,
- 56:44Speaker 3: yearly family trip. So we're actually wrapping up getting ready
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- 56:48Speaker 1: Is it okay?
- 56:49Speaker 5: So I've not been?
- 56:52Speaker 1: I mean, to me, it kind of feels like the
- 56:54Speaker 1: Truman Show. Is it just a bunch of actors there
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- 57:07Speaker 11: You know what?
- 57:08Speaker 3: It feels that way? And I took I took a
- 57:11Speaker 3: town tour. I'm not even kidding. I took a town
- 57:13Speaker 3: tour the other day, and I met the CEO, this
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- 57:35Speaker 3: You're here, you come up one oh, I think it's
- 57:37Speaker 3: one o nine, You come around the curb, and it
- 57:40Speaker 3: just like I'm waiting for the harps and the pianos
- 57:43Speaker 3: to start playing, because it is. It is a really
- 57:46Speaker 3: magical place. It's it's it's awesome. We we came here
- 57:49Speaker 3: last year. We fell in love with it. But yeah,
- 57:51Speaker 3: it's a Truman show. Everyone's so kind and friendly. You're
- 57:54Speaker 3: sitting on your front porch and hey, how's it going?
- 57:56Speaker 3: Like hey, barb like hi, you know it feels like that,
- 58:01Speaker 3: so it really does. I've made a couple of friends already,
- 58:04Speaker 3: and my wife's like, of course.
- 58:05Speaker 5: You did, well, of course he did. It's ever Fitz.
- 58:08Speaker 1: Of course he makes friends wherever he goes. He gives
- 58:11Speaker 1: great hugss.
- 58:12Speaker 3: In the pool and oh yeah, it's Dave. He lives
- 58:14Speaker 3: over in Pol's Bow. He's got an office downtown. His
- 58:17Speaker 3: wife works a dub medical so she comes in a
- 58:19Speaker 3: couple of times a week. She's a really nice guy.
- 58:24Speaker 1: Were you made to feel like the world's greatest father?
- 58:27Speaker 1: Because you know, if I'm honest, I think top two,
- 58:30Speaker 1: top three. But I think that's a little exaggerative that
- 58:34Speaker 1: you would be rated number one in the entire world
- 58:36Speaker 1: as father. That seems like an aggressive approach. And yet
- 58:40Speaker 1: did you feel that way yesterday?
- 58:42Speaker 3: I'd say I'd say top ten dad for sure, in
- 58:45Speaker 3: the world. If you were to rank all.
- 58:46Speaker 5: The dads, I'm probably the top ten.
- 58:49Speaker 3: No, honestly, yesterday was my perfect father's day. Everyone listening
- 58:54Speaker 3: is gonna laugh at me, But my son and I
- 58:58Speaker 3: flew a kite, both of our very first kites. I've
- 59:00Speaker 3: never flown a kite before thirty seven years old, and
- 59:03Speaker 3: I flew my first kite yesterday. So went to the beach,
- 59:06Speaker 3: flew a kite, had a fire, made, some smores, grilled
- 59:09Speaker 3: some steaks, went to the pool. It was It was
- 59:12Speaker 3: actually a very mellow, chill, but awesome Father's Day. And yes,
- 59:19Speaker 3: I felt all the love from all the family. It
- 59:21Speaker 3: was great. It was really good.
- 59:23Speaker 1: A kite has to be the most obsolete toy in
- 59:27Speaker 1: the entire world, and yet still there is something kind
- 59:30Speaker 1: of magical about flying a kite. Not even kind of
- 59:33Speaker 1: there's something magical about flying a kite.
- 59:36Speaker 3: Well, I let all the string out and even I
- 59:38Speaker 3: was like, babe, babe, look how high it is. Look, no,
- 59:41Speaker 3: it's so high. Like I was so excited that I
- 59:45Speaker 3: flew my first kite. I don't know the four year
- 59:48Speaker 3: old or the thirty seven year old, I don't know
- 59:50Speaker 3: who was happier. My brother in law was like, I'm
- 59:52Speaker 3: so happy that we got ever the kite because it
- 59:54Speaker 3: was for him, it was for my son, and then
- 59:56Speaker 3: it ended up being for me. It was great.
- 59:59Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope, yeah, I hope six Seabrook actors didn't
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: shoot it down with a drone. So I'm glad you
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: had some kite time there with your son yesterday.
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: Coming home. Oh yeah, it's coming.
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: Home evert fits your voice at the Cracking with us
- 1:00:15Speaker 1: right here on chucking back, and then all of a sudden,
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: in the middle of your pleasant Father's day, flying your kite,
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: your phone starts blowing up, and the Kracking are making
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: moves of all days for them to start this off season.
- 1:00:26Speaker 5: We've been hearing about.
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: So let's start with the first trade. What was your
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: reaction to acquiring Macky Samuskevitch from the Florida Panthers.
- 1:00:37Speaker 3: You know, I think that trade actually is a very
- 1:00:41Speaker 3: good trade for Seattle because you really don't give up
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: a whole lot. I would say this is a medium
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: risk but a potentially higher reward trade. You're giving up
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: the twenty fifth overall pick to Florida, which Florida ended
- 1:00:57Speaker 3: up shipping out for Brady Kachuk yesterday. But I think
- 1:01:01Speaker 3: you know, unlike the NFL Draft, that twenty fifth pick,
- 1:01:04Speaker 3: they're not coming in here next season looking to have
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: an immediate impact. That twenty fifth overall pick, you're still
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: three years away, two years away from having any type
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: of potential meaningful contribution from that player. And of course
- 1:01:18Speaker 3: the second round pick for next year as well, that's
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: to throw in. And you're getting back a twenty three
- 1:01:24Speaker 3: year old player who's got NHL experience, back to back
- 1:01:28Speaker 3: thirty point seasons, seventy seven seventy six games each of
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: the last two years, been a tremendous upside at twenty
- 1:01:35Speaker 3: three years old. So when we talk a lot about
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: wanting the kids to play here in Seattle, wanting those
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: prospects to play, you also need to add in younger
- 1:01:45Speaker 3: NHL caliber talent to help as well. So there is
- 1:01:49Speaker 3: a lot to be positive about sam Uskevitch, and he
- 1:01:52Speaker 3: was just a victim of opportunity, not enough opportunity. In Florida,
- 1:01:56Speaker 3: you're the back to back Stanley Cup champions, You've made
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: the play offs four or five years in a row,
- 1:02:02Speaker 3: and his role was diminished just because of everyone he
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: was playing behind. Now he gets to come to Seattle,
- 1:02:09Speaker 3: he's going to be in a top six position, so
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: you're going to see him getting you know, a lot
- 1:02:16Speaker 3: of minutes, a lot of ships. He's going to get
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: some power play time. He's going to be put out
- 1:02:20Speaker 3: in those those situations. So for me, this trade is
- 1:02:24Speaker 3: exactly what the Seattle Kraken needed. They got younger, they
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: got NHL experience, and they got a player who's got
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: tremendous upside and has the potential I think to be
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: a twenty five goal fifty sixty point player consistently in
- 1:02:41Speaker 3: this league.
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: His name rung a bell certainly with me when we
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: heard it, but I wouldn't say that anything particularly stood
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: out about Samuskevitch when I watched Crack and Panther games.
- 1:02:55Speaker 5: However, few there've been the last couple of years.
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: As someone that obviously is icelting and evaluating every single
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: play of the entire season, did anything from your recollection
- 1:03:07Speaker 1: leap out to you about Samuskevitch's game.
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: Well, I've actually followed him. I remember him when he
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: was playing junior hockey in the USHL. He then went
- 1:03:16Speaker 3: to Michigan and was on a team with Matty Veneers
- 1:03:19Speaker 3: and in ann Arbor. So he he is a player
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: that he likes to shoot the puck a lot, like
- 1:03:25Speaker 3: Bobby McMahon. He's got that shot first mentality. But like
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: I said before, he wasn't put in a lot of
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: situations to showcase that ability because of all the folks
- 1:03:37Speaker 3: he was playing behind in Florida. So now he comes here,
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: he immediately gets slotted into your top six forward group.
- 1:03:44Speaker 3: He's going to be playing some big minutes and you're
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: going to see that first that first hand. He loves
- 1:03:49Speaker 3: to shoot the puck. He wants to shoot the puck.
- 1:03:51Speaker 3: He's got some speed, he's got some creativity as well.
- 1:03:54Speaker 3: And the second I saw that email come through, I
- 1:03:58Speaker 3: go back to a couple of conversations that we had
- 1:04:01Speaker 3: with Lane Lambert last season and he goes, I've been
- 1:04:03Speaker 3: telling these guys just I want them to shoot the
- 1:04:05Speaker 3: puck more. I want them to shoot the puck more. Well,
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: Bobby McMahon comes in. He gets ten goals, four assists
- 1:04:11Speaker 3: in eighteen games with the Kraken. He has a shot
- 1:04:14Speaker 3: first mentality. Now Mackie Samuskavich on that right side has
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: a shot first mentality. And like I said, he only
- 1:04:21Speaker 3: had twelve and thirteen goals each of the last two seasons,
- 1:04:25Speaker 3: but now you put him in a top six role.
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: I don't see why he couldn't get twenty goals this year.
- 1:04:30Speaker 3: Twenty five goals this year. Because of the situations he's
- 1:04:33Speaker 3: going to be put in and because of the way
- 1:04:35Speaker 3: he likes to play.
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: Yeah, both of those things struck me when I saw
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: those conversations that we had with you during the season.
- 1:04:42Speaker 1: Lambert frustrated that we're not aggressive enough putting the puck
- 1:04:45Speaker 1: near the net. Sometimes you just got to get the
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: puck near the net. Ye could Eskate could hit a body,
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: and so I thought of that yesterday. Evert Fitz, he's
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: with us talking about the cracking big moves yesterday, and
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: of course the even bigger move in my estimation, was
- 1:05:01Speaker 1: keeping the aforementioned Bobby McMahon, who did score ten goals
- 1:05:07Speaker 1: in eighteen games and does return. I'm a little surprised
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: that they got this done. It does speak though, to
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: obviously Bobby McMahon, even though he wasn't playing playoff hockey
- 1:05:21Speaker 1: down the stretch, he obviously enjoyed his time with the
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: organization last year, and I think that says a lot
- 1:05:28Speaker 1: about the organization.
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: It does, It really does. He genuinely likes playing here
- 1:05:35Speaker 3: in Seattle. His girlfriend also loves it here. My wife
- 1:05:40Speaker 3: and I actually were out, got a coffee and ran
- 1:05:42Speaker 3: into both he and her at a coffee shop and
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: she was saying how much she loves Seattle, how much
- 1:05:47Speaker 3: she loves the environment here, and the other wives and girlfriends,
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: and the teammates and the organization. So that rings a lot.
- 1:05:55Speaker 3: That does say a lot about the organization. And also
- 1:05:59Speaker 3: I think for Bobby going from the media pressure cooker
- 1:06:04Speaker 3: that is Toronto to coming here to Seattle, the pressure's
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: off a little bit from a media perspective. He's from
- 1:06:11Speaker 3: Western Canada, so the geography is a little similar to
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: what he's used to. He's a little closer to home.
- 1:06:19Speaker 3: So all of those things factored in. But now you
- 1:06:22Speaker 3: have a piece for the next six years that you
- 1:06:25Speaker 3: can build around, you can start adding to. And I
- 1:06:28Speaker 3: think guys like Bobby McMahon who came in here had
- 1:06:32Speaker 3: an immediate impact. And even though the team wasn't that
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: good on the ice in the last twenty games of
- 1:06:39Speaker 3: the season, you did have a guy who showed you
- 1:06:43Speaker 3: his potential and showed you what this team potentially could
- 1:06:46Speaker 3: be with him. So I thought that was great. I
- 1:06:49Speaker 3: think they got him in a really good number at
- 1:06:51Speaker 3: six years five, seven five. I mean Mike Benton and
- 1:06:54Speaker 3: al and I we were talking quite a bit. You know,
- 1:06:57Speaker 3: how much do you pay him as much as he
- 1:06:59Speaker 3: wants because you know, the free agency class this summer
- 1:07:03Speaker 3: is not very good. I mean, he definitely was the
- 1:07:06Speaker 3: top of the free agency class. There were no superstar
- 1:07:10Speaker 3: McDavid's or Kachuck's or you know whatever you have out there.
- 1:07:14Speaker 3: So Bobby McMahon was the top end of that free
- 1:07:18Speaker 3: agency class and he showed why those last eighteen games.
- 1:07:22Speaker 3: So the crack and were able to keep a player
- 1:07:24Speaker 3: that they like, that likes being here, and now you
- 1:07:28Speaker 3: can build around them.
- 1:07:29Speaker 1: Well realistically, I mean you mentioned it. Ten goals in
- 1:07:33Speaker 1: eighteen games. I mean that puts you on a pace
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: to be a forty five goal per season scorer.
- 1:07:39Speaker 5: And there were only.
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: Five guys I think in the league last year that
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: scored forty five goals or more. So that seems like
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: that's a little out of reach. But where is the
- 1:07:49Speaker 1: expectation for McMahon in this offense? What is the high
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: end that he's capable of.
- 1:07:56Speaker 3: Well, between Toronto and Seattle last year he had twenty
- 1:07:59Speaker 3: nine goals. He probably could have had a few more
- 1:08:02Speaker 3: with Seattle, So I mean I would say, I mean
- 1:08:05Speaker 3: if you're talking about a guy that's still trying to
- 1:08:09Speaker 3: you know, he's got some upside left. He's only thirty
- 1:08:12Speaker 3: years old, so he's not on the back nine of
- 1:08:14Speaker 3: his career yet. I would say thirty to thirty five goals.
- 1:08:18Speaker 3: I mean that that I think is a very realistic expectation.
- 1:08:22Speaker 3: He had twenty nine last year, so six more goals
- 1:08:25Speaker 3: in this offense. Very much like makiw Samuskevitch, he's going
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: to be able to He's going to be in that
- 1:08:31Speaker 3: top six role. He's going to be given a lot
- 1:08:33Speaker 3: of minutes, a lot of opportunity, a lot of situations
- 1:08:36Speaker 3: to generate and create offense. In Toronto, he's behind Kneelander,
- 1:08:40Speaker 3: and he's behind Matthews and Nice and Tabaris, and he's
- 1:08:43Speaker 3: you know, intermittently in your top six, intermittently on that
- 1:08:47Speaker 3: second line. Well, here, he's going to be penciled in
- 1:08:50Speaker 3: minimally on your second line, but probably your top line
- 1:08:53Speaker 3: every single night. So he's going to get an opportunity
- 1:08:56Speaker 3: to generate a ton of offense. So I don't think
- 1:08:58Speaker 3: that thirty five goals is a bridge too far for him.
- 1:09:02Speaker 3: I think that is where he can be. I think,
- 1:09:05Speaker 3: you know, another thirty assist he can be a thirty
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: to thirty guy sixties five seventy points on a consistent basis.
- 1:09:12Speaker 3: I don't think that that is out of the realm
- 1:09:15Speaker 3: of possibility for him.
- 1:09:16Speaker 1: All Right, what else is going to happen this offse
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: are What are you hearing? What can you reveal? I'm
- 1:09:21Speaker 1: sure that there's some things you're hearing that you can't reveal,
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: But what can you reveal to us this morning? I mean,
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: we've been prepared for a really aggressive off season, and
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: it was certainly a very aggressive Sunday. So are you
- 1:09:38Speaker 1: anticipating a major shakeup here? A couple of other minor moves?
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: What is your expectation going forward?
- 1:09:47Speaker 3: You know, I think major it's kind of relative. When
- 1:09:51Speaker 3: you talk about the type of moves that need to
- 1:09:54Speaker 3: be made. You're never going to stop talking about getting
- 1:09:59Speaker 3: a a prolific score until that happens, You're never gonna
- 1:10:03Speaker 3: stop talking about it. And and that's and that's all fair.
- 1:10:07Speaker 3: Depending on which national talking head that you listen to
- 1:10:12Speaker 3: around the NHL, the seventh overall pick in this Friday's
- 1:10:16Speaker 3: first round is still very much in play in terms
- 1:10:20Speaker 3: of being traded. Uh So there's a chip. There are
- 1:10:23Speaker 3: a few teams out there that don't have a top
- 1:10:26Speaker 3: ten pick, who don't have a top fifteen pick, that
- 1:10:29Speaker 3: would like to trade into that area, so the Kraken
- 1:10:32Speaker 3: could be, you know, potential suitors there. I think Seattle's
- 1:10:36Speaker 3: done a really good job of building up their farm
- 1:10:39Speaker 3: system and their prospect pool. The one area where the
- 1:10:42Speaker 3: Kraken lack in that department, though, was on defense. And
- 1:10:46Speaker 3: there are a couple of pretty good, strong defensemen who
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: you know, you take them with the seventh overall pick
- 1:10:52Speaker 3: and then you could see them here in Seattle in
- 1:10:54Speaker 3: the next couple of years. But there isn't a lot
- 1:10:58Speaker 3: of super high and talent this year outside of that
- 1:11:03Speaker 3: top three, top five in the NHL drafts. So that's
- 1:11:07Speaker 3: why folks are saying, maybe Seattle trade that seventh overall
- 1:11:10Speaker 3: pick for a player that can help you today. I
- 1:11:13Speaker 3: don't think that there's going to be another major move,
- 1:11:18Speaker 3: a jaw dropping move, if you will, outside of potentially
- 1:11:22Speaker 3: trading that seventh overall pick. But I do think we're
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: going to maybe see a couple of more moves like
- 1:11:27Speaker 3: the Samuskevitch move, another younger player a ton of potential
- 1:11:31Speaker 3: NHL experience has had some success and is looking for
- 1:11:35Speaker 3: that fresh start, that next opportunity to show what he
- 1:11:38Speaker 3: can do. With the Kraken free agency players that they're
- 1:11:43Speaker 3: going to have to have conversations with Jamie alexiak, Ellie Tolbinan,
- 1:11:47Speaker 3: James Schwartz, all three of them need new contracts. But
- 1:11:51Speaker 3: it doesn't look like, you know, they're gonna get to
- 1:11:54Speaker 3: free agency on July first, and we'll see what happens
- 1:11:57Speaker 3: after that. A couple of players on the team. I
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: heard Jared McCann Evince Dunn's name come up externally about
- 1:12:04Speaker 3: potential trade candidates. So there are definitely moves this team
- 1:12:08Speaker 3: can make, all in an effort to get better. I mean,
- 1:12:13Speaker 3: this team has been kind of middling in the last
- 1:12:15Speaker 3: couple of years and you're trying to establish that direction.
- 1:12:19Speaker 3: So I do think there's gonna be some of those
- 1:12:20Speaker 3: moves made, But I don't know if that massive, major
- 1:12:24Speaker 3: move is on the horizon for this team, outside of
- 1:12:28Speaker 3: maybe trading that seventh overall pick for someone in the
- 1:12:31Speaker 3: league that can help you today, you've got to.
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: Have a name though, at the top of your wish list.
- 1:12:35Speaker 1: You're walking around c Brook, you know, wave into all
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: those actors making you feel like the best dad in
- 1:12:41Speaker 1: the world. And the whole time you're sitting there walking along,
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: you're thinking to yourself, Houston Matthews, Man, Austin Matthews, how
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: could we get hosta. Somebody, Somebody's got to come to
- 1:12:50Speaker 1: your mind to just give me a little insight.
- 1:12:52Speaker 5: What does effort fits you? What's on your wish well?
- 1:12:55Speaker 3: I mean, going back to the last trade deadline in March,
- 1:13:00Speaker 3: the names that kept getting thrown around, Matthew NY's in Toronto,
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: Robert Thomas in Saint Louis. A lot of those players
- 1:13:08Speaker 3: have no move clauses. We saw the captain of the
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: Ottawa Senators, Brady Kuchuck, traded to Florida to play with
- 1:13:15Speaker 3: his brother, Matthew Contruck. Dylan Larkin has asked for a
- 1:13:18Speaker 3: trade out of Detroit. I would have called you crazy
- 1:13:22Speaker 3: if if two months ago we were sitting here talking
- 1:13:25Speaker 3: about Brady Kuchuck leaving, the captain of the Senators leaving.
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: Dylan Larkin, home grown from Detroit, went to Michigan plays
- 1:13:34Speaker 3: for the Red Wings. You're kidding me. You're outside of
- 1:13:36Speaker 3: your mind if you think that he's going to ask
- 1:13:38Speaker 3: for a trade. Well, now he wants out, So you know,
- 1:13:41Speaker 3: obviously there are names out there that I would like.
- 1:13:43Speaker 3: But I'm going to go back to the trade that
- 1:13:45Speaker 3: I've proposed a couple of times. Who says, no, I
- 1:13:49Speaker 3: think Jason boschrel packages a couple of seventh overall our
- 1:13:52Speaker 3: seventh round picks and maybe a low level prospect for
- 1:13:56Speaker 3: Conor McDavid, who says, no, everyone needs everyone needs some
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: late round picks. You give them six sevens and then
- 1:14:05Speaker 3: a couple of prospects you know over in Europe that
- 1:14:09Speaker 3: maybe you don't foresee signing. And then you go to
- 1:14:13Speaker 3: to stand Bowman and in Edmonton and say, hey, we'll
- 1:14:15Speaker 3: take we'll take ninety seven offer hands out who said.
- 1:14:18Speaker 1: It makes a lot of money. You're really he's really
- 1:14:21Speaker 1: keeping the organization down. But in all.
- 1:14:27Speaker 3: Serious in all seriousness, though, I think I think those
- 1:14:31Speaker 3: names that we heard back at the deadline, I think
- 1:14:33Speaker 3: you're Robert Thomas's, You're you're Jason Robertson. Although that's going
- 1:14:37Speaker 3: to cost you heavily in terms of an offer sheet,
- 1:14:40Speaker 3: those are names that I think are in play for
- 1:14:43Speaker 3: a lot of the league because everyone needs a player
- 1:14:47Speaker 3: like that, right So, But if if Brady Kachuck can
- 1:14:51Speaker 3: get traded, if Dylan Larkin can ask for a trade,
- 1:14:54Speaker 3: who knows what's gonna happen in the next four days
- 1:14:57Speaker 3: and going in the draft, Dame, like I said, cracket
- 1:15:00Speaker 3: have the number seven overall pick. And from what from
- 1:15:03Speaker 3: what you hear around the hockey media sphere, they're open
- 1:15:08Speaker 3: to offers for that seventh overall pick.
- 1:15:11Speaker 5: Thank you, sir, We appreciate it. Great to catch up
- 1:15:13Speaker 5: with you.
- 1:15:14Speaker 1: Glad you're having such a great off season. Glad you
- 1:15:16Speaker 1: had time, good time in Seabrook. Uh and we will
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: bug you again real soon.
- 1:15:21Speaker 3: All right, everyone's got to go to Seabrook. It's great,
- 1:15:24Speaker 3: it's awesome. You'd love it. It's so much fun.
- 1:15:26Speaker 5: Ahead of the Seabrook Tourism Bureau.
- 1:15:28Speaker 1: Ever it fits you, also happens to be the play
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: by play voice of the Seattle Cracker.
- 1:15:33Speaker 3: I moonlight as the play by play voice of the
- 1:15:35Speaker 3: Seattle Crack.
- 1:15:37Speaker 1: Thanks then, ever fits you joining us right here on
- 1:15:42Speaker 1: the Chuck and Buck in the morning. All right, coming
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: up next ABC, so Them Sports Radio ninety three point
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: three kJ RFM. We'll have never not put it in
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: the rundown at the beginning of the show and then
- 1:15:51Speaker 1: realized I didn't put it in the rundown and then
- 1:15:53Speaker 1: change it.
- 1:15:54Speaker 5: Why would that ever happen.
- 1:15:55Speaker 7: Never happened, Yeah, exactly, Never happen again.
- 1:15:59Speaker 5: That's for sure.
- 1:16:01Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, good morning to you, Ashley, Ryan Chuck Powell
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: with you. It is time for the ABC's of the MS.
- 1:16:07Speaker 1: That's our daily Mariner segment. We allowed the alphabet to
- 1:16:10Speaker 1: be our guide through a few different things. I mean,
- 1:16:12Speaker 1: we've already talked about can Zone, We've already talked about
- 1:16:18Speaker 1: Logan Gilbert, but maybe the alphabet will not cooperate here
- 1:16:23Speaker 1: to bring them back up again. I guess maybe we'll
- 1:16:25Speaker 1: have to talk about that stuff with Ryan Healy coming
- 1:16:29Speaker 1: up at nine o'clock today. Because we left off of
- 1:16:32Speaker 1: the letter M and M is for Minnesota. I guess
- 1:16:36Speaker 1: that's just a wonderful place. This Byron Buxton really does
- 1:16:40Speaker 1: seem determined to stay there no matter what the record is,
- 1:16:43Speaker 1: no matter what the situation is. And let's face it,
- 1:16:47Speaker 1: I mean, we're still so far away from the trading
- 1:16:51Speaker 1: deadline that I mean, we're six weeks away still, so
- 1:16:54Speaker 1: a lot can change, and a lot's going to have
- 1:16:56Speaker 1: to change. I mean, things are so bunched up and
- 1:16:59Speaker 1: both leagues. Minnesota has been kind of categorized as a
- 1:17:04Speaker 1: for sure seller because of what they did at last
- 1:17:07Speaker 1: year's trading deadline, and yet they're only a game out
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: of the wild Card right now. I mean, there are
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: only four teams right now in the American League Tigers,
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: Red Sox, Royals, and Angels who are more than two
- 1:17:20Speaker 1: games out of the wild The Astros are still in it.
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: They're only two games back in the Wildcard at this point.
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: So right now there's just there's not a market. There's
- 1:17:29Speaker 1: just not gonna be for a little while. But it
- 1:17:31Speaker 1: is hard for me to believe that Byron Buckson would
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: be so dedicated to Minnesota. I think he's holding to
- 1:17:38Speaker 1: that because he wants it to be known to everyone
- 1:17:43Speaker 1: in the world. Apparently, is this a great guy that
- 1:17:48Speaker 1: I don't want to turn anybody down? Okay, so I
- 1:17:52Speaker 1: got this no trade clause. This isn't about turning other
- 1:17:54Speaker 1: people down. So right now I'm just sending the MS
- 1:17:57Speaker 1: for message that I love MS for Minnesota, and so
- 1:18:01Speaker 1: I think that's his approach because there are places I
- 1:18:04Speaker 1: have a feeling that the kid from the small town
- 1:18:06Speaker 1: in Georgia, who's spent his entire professional career in lovely,
- 1:18:11Speaker 1: smallish Minneapolis, and for Minneapolis is probably like, I don't
- 1:18:17Speaker 1: want to be a Yankee. I don't want to be
- 1:18:19Speaker 1: a Red Sox. I don't want to be a Dodger.
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: I kind of like this small town, smaller town thing
- 1:18:27Speaker 1: that I've got going on here, and I'm very content here.
- 1:18:30Speaker 1: But if Seattle comes knocking, if the Atlanta Braves, which
- 1:18:35Speaker 1: is near his hometown, come and knocking, I do think
- 1:18:38Speaker 1: he would wave that.
- 1:18:39Speaker 5: No trade clause.
- 1:18:40Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if Seattle would be the right situation,
- 1:18:43Speaker 1: but I do believe he would waive that no trade
- 1:18:46Speaker 1: clause for the right team and the right situation. And
- 1:18:50Speaker 1: I think Seattle would be a right situation for Byron
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: Buxton right now. So that's still where I'm hanging my
- 1:18:55Speaker 1: hat on. Who we should add that won't struggle again?
- 1:19:00Speaker 1: Left handers?
- 1:19:01Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, I think that's a great plan. Yeah, And
- 1:19:04Speaker 6: we can guarantee he won't struggle because it's definitely not
- 1:19:08Speaker 6: a curse when they get here.
- 1:19:09Speaker 5: Oh no, there, that's foolproof, it really is.
- 1:19:13Speaker 7: It is.
- 1:19:14Speaker 1: If not if not him, hey ms for Marte, I
- 1:19:17Speaker 1: think we might hear could tell Marte's name start coming
- 1:19:20Speaker 1: back up again. Dodgers are only one game out of
- 1:19:23Speaker 1: the wildcard too.
- 1:19:24Speaker 5: Right now. We just saw Wilson.
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: Contraras over the weekend with Boston. Obviously things have not
- 1:19:30Speaker 1: gone the way they've wanted them to, but he's been
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: their best player. Don't know, I mean, he'd just be
- 1:19:35Speaker 1: our DH at this point. But just a few names,
- 1:19:39Speaker 1: a few names that are kind of circling right now
- 1:19:42Speaker 1: the brain. Speaking of first base, n N is for Naylor.
- 1:19:47Speaker 1: I don't know what's happened to Josh Naylor at first base,
- 1:19:51Speaker 1: but man, it is sloppy and at times, I mean,
- 1:19:55Speaker 1: he still looks like that ballerino over there with his
- 1:19:58Speaker 1: nimble feet and us and over and you know, and
- 1:20:02Speaker 1: plays the game, plays defense with a little bit of
- 1:20:06Speaker 1: flair over to him. But flair comes after you are
- 1:20:11Speaker 1: making all of the routine plays, and it just kind
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: of feels to me like he's making trying to make
- 1:20:17Speaker 1: everything look sexier than it needs to be.
- 1:20:20Speaker 5: This is first base. The job is to catch the
- 1:20:23Speaker 5: damn ball.
- 1:20:24Speaker 1: The job is to flip the damn ball, and Logan
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: Gilbert here he is, I'm gonna push it into the
- 1:20:30Speaker 1: seventh inning, which I'm not sure that was even the
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: right move by Dan. Let's push it into the seventh inning,
- 1:20:36Speaker 1: because Dan, every starting pitcher has to go between ninety
- 1:20:40Speaker 1: and ninety five pitches.
- 1:20:41Speaker 7: It is a requirement.
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: So Logan's covering first base. I mean, he's all legs
- 1:20:48Speaker 1: and arms, he's six foot seven, he's you know, it's
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: like a Coca Pelly over there trying to run over
- 1:20:55Speaker 1: to first base. And Naylor gives maybe the worst toss
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: to a first to a pitcher I've ever seen. Yeah,
- 1:21:01Speaker 1: it wasn't good, and then he ends up rolling in
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: a ball in the heap. We don't want. It's like
- 1:21:05Speaker 1: seeing Whimby fall down. You don't want the tall, skinny,
- 1:21:09Speaker 1: gangly guys to be falling down and their parts are
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: going everywhere. And so for Naylor to have given such
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: a lazy, half assed toss to Logan Gilbert, I mean, honestly,
- 1:21:24Speaker 1: you've just got to be better than that. You've got
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: to be better than that.
- 1:21:28Speaker 7: I would agree with that.
- 1:21:29Speaker 6: He has to be better, and we've seen him be better,
- 1:21:32Speaker 6: which is why it's frustrating. And I know, coming in here,
- 1:21:35Speaker 6: his defense wasn't the thing that was, you know, he
- 1:21:38Speaker 6: was that we were getting him for. It was a
- 1:21:40Speaker 6: bonus when his defense was the best that he's played
- 1:21:42Speaker 6: basically in his entire career. But how do you go
- 1:21:44Speaker 6: from playing the best defense of your entire career to this?
- 1:21:48Speaker 1: It looks to me like he's trying to be He's
- 1:21:51Speaker 1: trying to make first base look cool.
- 1:21:53Speaker 7: Which is so opposite of how you what you would
- 1:21:55Speaker 7: expect from him.
- 1:21:56Speaker 1: Though, well, he does wear fancy shoes.
- 1:21:58Speaker 7: I do love the shoe.
- 1:22:00Speaker 1: He does wear a fancy belt, and I don't dislike
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: him any more. It's nothing like that. But I mean
- 1:22:07Speaker 1: enough of the trying to make the underhand throw to
- 1:22:11Speaker 1: second base around the run. Just straighten your back out
- 1:22:15Speaker 1: and make the right throw, step forward and throw it
- 1:22:18Speaker 1: where it needs to be thrown, and catch the ball
- 1:22:21Speaker 1: when it needs where it needs to be caught. Yeah,
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: and I think he is caught in trying to make
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: first base.
- 1:22:26Speaker 5: Look cooler than it actually is.
- 1:22:28Speaker 1: I hope not always for odd You know, there are
- 1:22:33Speaker 1: a lot of frustrating things about this season.
- 1:22:37Speaker 5: For those of you that are angry.
- 1:22:41Speaker 1: And didn't have expectations, I'm not really sure what your
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: problem is. It's a lot more frustrating for all of
- 1:22:48Speaker 1: us that actually see the promise of this team and
- 1:22:52Speaker 1: see how good they could be and just haven't been
- 1:22:55Speaker 1: good this season. That should be a lot more frustrating
- 1:22:58Speaker 1: than you angry people who think Jerry sucks and Dan
- 1:23:01Speaker 1: sucks and everybody sucks, and so, I mean, shouldn't this
- 1:23:05Speaker 1: be kind kind of on par for what you were
- 1:23:07Speaker 1: expecting this year?
- 1:23:09Speaker 5: That aside.
- 1:23:13Speaker 1: Weirdos always for odd From this standpoint, it is just really,
- 1:23:19Speaker 1: I mean, just kind of got to take a deep breath, Ashley,
- 1:23:24Speaker 1: and we're thirty nine and thirty eight, far below my
- 1:23:27Speaker 1: expectations at this point of the year, and yet still
- 1:23:29Speaker 1: a first place team somehow, game and a half up
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: on the A's at this stage, and cal Rawley just
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: cannot get going. It just doesn't matter. He is hitting
- 1:23:41Speaker 1: one sixty four, great, he is not homer When is
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: his last home er? I mean, I know he was
- 1:23:49Speaker 1: on the injury list for thirty days, but to have
- 1:23:52Speaker 1: gone this season and to have to be sitting here
- 1:23:59Speaker 1: with a one actually it's one sixty two, sorry, one
- 1:24:02Speaker 1: sixty two and be stuck on seven home runs Hill,
- 1:24:06Speaker 1: I mean, who would have ever ever dreamt that he
- 1:24:10Speaker 1: would have this kind of a season, and I thought
- 1:24:13Speaker 1: he was going to hit the ground running when he
- 1:24:15Speaker 1: came back.
- 1:24:15Speaker 5: And I do think he's looked better.
- 1:24:17Speaker 1: I thought at the beginning of the year he was
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: looking over matched at times, which just is mind blowing
- 1:24:22Speaker 1: for a guy that hit sixty home runs a season ago.
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: But to me, his timing looks much better since he's
- 1:24:29Speaker 1: come back and he's hit some deep balls. It's like
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: he's hitting to the wall, but he's not hitting any
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: over the wall. And I'll tell you this, putting everything
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: else aside. If you tell me at the beginning of
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: the year that by June twenty second, col will be
- 1:24:46Speaker 1: hitting one sixty two with a five to sixty ops
- 1:24:49Speaker 1: and stuck on seven home runs for almost two months,
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: I wouldn't even have predicted thirty nine and thirty eight.
- 1:24:57Speaker 5: Well, how many games under five hundred?
- 1:24:58Speaker 3: Are we?
- 1:24:59Speaker 7: Yeah? Miserable? Is our season as.
- 1:25:01Speaker 1: Good as the roster I feel is. And I think
- 1:25:04Speaker 1: it's the best one that they've put together since I
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: arrived here in Seattle. I still considering what cal Rawley
- 1:25:12Speaker 1: meant to that team a year ago. I mean minimum expectations.
- 1:25:18Speaker 1: I mean, you're over two hundred batting average. You're over
- 1:25:21Speaker 1: a seven hundred ops at this stage, and yet he
- 1:25:26Speaker 1: just can't get it going. And it is just bold
- 1:25:29Speaker 1: faced odd to me.
- 1:25:31Speaker 6: Well, and yeah, just sad too because that I think
- 1:25:35Speaker 6: everybody can agree that cal Rawly's very likable and we
- 1:25:38Speaker 6: want him to do well and we want to cheer
- 1:25:40Speaker 6: for him, and so it's just a you know, when
- 1:25:42Speaker 6: he's not doing well and you're just trying to will
- 1:25:44Speaker 6: him to be doing well because you want to be
- 1:25:46Speaker 6: able to cheer for him and you want that dumper
- 1:25:48Speaker 6: smile on second base looking back at his dugout like yeah,
- 1:25:52Speaker 6: let's do it, boys, and you're not getting it.
- 1:25:55Speaker 7: It makes me sad.
- 1:25:57Speaker 1: I mean, it's got it pop, right, I would think so.
- 1:25:59Speaker 5: But I knew and I do believe.
- 1:26:01Speaker 1: It in my down to my core that it's gonna pop,
- 1:26:04Speaker 1: and when it pops, it's gonna be spectacular. But you
- 1:26:08Speaker 1: just don't go from the sixty home run season and
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: how dare they give Aaron Judge the MVP to the
- 1:26:17Speaker 1: next season hitting one sixty two with a five sixty ops.
- 1:26:21Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't get it. I don't get it.
- 1:26:23Speaker 5: Unreal, all right?
- 1:26:24Speaker 1: Coming up next on the program, Seahawks one series in
- 1:26:28Speaker 1: the month of June, and so we are going to
- 1:26:31Speaker 1: do our Seahawks one series RecA. If you didn't hear
- 1:26:33Speaker 1: Rob Ring talking about Derek Hall, you're gonna hear about
- 1:26:35Speaker 1: it next Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. Here
- 1:26:49Speaker 1: we go nine o'clock hour here on a Monday, and
- 1:26:52Speaker 1: normally it's a Tuesday treat that we are visited by
- 1:26:57Speaker 1: Ryan Healey, former Mariner and now part of Mariner's TV.
- 1:27:01Speaker 1: Of course he's been with us longer, far more loyal
- 1:27:03Speaker 1: to us here on Chucking Buck in the Morning, and
- 1:27:06Speaker 1: so the former Mariner now joins us here on a Monday.
- 1:27:09Speaker 5: You know, I got to change things around every once
- 1:27:11Speaker 5: in a while, and so it's.
- 1:27:13Speaker 1: Great to have you to start the week here this week.
- 1:27:15Speaker 1: Good to see you.
- 1:27:16Speaker 2: I got I gotta keep you on your on your
- 1:27:18Speaker 2: toes a little bit, chuck. Yeah, so sorry, will flip
- 1:27:20Speaker 2: flops me Monday and Tuesday. But regardless, I'm excited to
- 1:27:23Speaker 2: be here and talk to maritors baseball.
- 1:27:24Speaker 5: No worries, I can go with the flow.
- 1:27:26Speaker 1: How is Father's Day? Were you made to feel like
- 1:27:28Speaker 1: the number one father in the galaxy?
- 1:27:31Speaker 2: I felt special, I felt really special. Actually, I got
- 1:27:36Speaker 2: to show you one thing, Chuck. This was This has
- 1:27:38Speaker 2: been like the the joke of my trip so far.
- 1:27:41Speaker 2: So I left late last night, so my kids are
- 1:27:43Speaker 2: really sad. And my daughter actually gave me one of
- 1:27:45Speaker 2: her stuffies. She has two of these little bunny lovies.
- 1:27:48Speaker 2: And as I was packing my bag, she'll get really
- 1:27:51Speaker 2: sad when if I leave, but she went and grabbed
- 1:27:53Speaker 2: one of these bunnies. It brought it to me and
- 1:27:54Speaker 2: she goes, Daddy, I want you to bring this with you,
- 1:27:56Speaker 2: so keep you safe. So I've been taking pictures at
- 1:27:59Speaker 2: different locations, like the airport I was outside this morning.
- 1:28:02Speaker 2: It's a different spots, and then I'll send them to
- 1:28:04Speaker 2: my wife and my my wife's response this morning was
- 1:28:07Speaker 2: your daughter is living for this bunny's journey right now.
- 1:28:09Speaker 5: Keep it up. Maybe you are.
- 1:28:13Speaker 1: I mean I always see people claim they're their number
- 1:28:15Speaker 1: one dad in the world with their you know, coffee
- 1:28:17Speaker 1: mug that they just got. There can only be one
- 1:28:20Speaker 1: of those. Maybe you are a candidate. I mean, bunny, Bunny, Bunny,
- 1:28:24Speaker 1: this bunny episode is really gonna shoot your stock up.
- 1:28:28Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna have probably twelve to fifteen pictures
- 1:28:30Speaker 2: by the end of it, I might put to get
- 1:28:32Speaker 2: a little collage and uh and share it with her.
- 1:28:35Speaker 2: But my guess is this is going to become a
- 1:28:37Speaker 2: new thing anytime I travel.
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: Okay, good, well, good, Yeah, don't let any of your
- 1:28:42Speaker 1: old teammates get a hold of it.
- 1:28:44Speaker 2: See they got work. They got worse on me than
- 1:28:47Speaker 2: the bunny. Stuffy, I'll try to trust me there.
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, don't let them get a hold of
- 1:28:52Speaker 1: the bunny.
- 1:28:52Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. They'll like to have to do
- 1:28:54Speaker 5: shotgunning beer with it or something like that.
- 1:28:57Speaker 2: They get the wrong I'll fight them for the bunny
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: with there.
- 1:29:01Speaker 1: Right, heallely is with us. All right, We got a
- 1:29:03Speaker 1: lot to discuss, and there are a lot of different
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: things that we get to get into, some of some
- 1:29:07Speaker 1: very frustrating, some you know, exciting. And then we have
- 1:29:12Speaker 1: dom canzone, which is where I want to start, kind
- 1:29:15Speaker 1: of a combination of the two. Let's start with just
- 1:29:19Speaker 1: how well he's been playing as of late, somebody that's
- 1:29:22Speaker 1: been trying to prove to this organization. You don't have
- 1:29:24Speaker 1: to sit me against left handers. And now because of
- 1:29:28Speaker 1: all of these injuries that they've suffered, here recently, they've
- 1:29:31Speaker 1: kind of had to force him into the lineup.
- 1:29:33Speaker 5: They haven't really had.
- 1:29:34Speaker 1: A choice, and he's kind of showing you I can
- 1:29:37Speaker 1: do it all offensively. What are you seeing out of
- 1:29:40Speaker 1: Dom canzone that has seemingly taken him.
- 1:29:44Speaker 5: To a whole new level as a baseball player.
- 1:29:48Speaker 2: It just looks like he has so much conviction and
- 1:29:51Speaker 2: who he is as a hitter, and it takes time
- 1:29:54Speaker 2: at the major league level to get there. You go
- 1:29:56Speaker 2: through these ebbs and flows, and as fans, we get
- 1:29:58Speaker 2: to watch a player like young go through this where
- 1:30:01Speaker 2: there's really good series, maybe some ones where he gets dominated.
- 1:30:04Speaker 2: But Dom's been around long enough where he understands what
- 1:30:08Speaker 2: pitchers are trying to do to him, especially the right
- 1:30:10Speaker 2: handed pitchers, like they're trying to beat him up in
- 1:30:13Speaker 2: the zone with velocity and then down in the way
- 1:30:15Speaker 2: and you'll get some wild swings from Don. But he's
- 1:30:17Speaker 2: getting better at using the opposite field and no better demonstrated.
- 1:30:22Speaker 2: But then the left field home run he hit against
- 1:30:24Speaker 2: Toldy yesterday and that Sunday Mattinee his ability to use
- 1:30:28Speaker 2: the entire field. He actually hit a foul ball during
- 1:30:31Speaker 2: that weekend series as well, left on left that just
- 1:30:34Speaker 2: barely when foul would have been a home run had
- 1:30:36Speaker 2: the distance. He just looks like his approach is so
- 1:30:40Speaker 2: professional against whether it's a right of or left eat,
- 1:30:42Speaker 2: to the point where these injuries have given Don an
- 1:30:45Speaker 2: opportunity to face lefties more consistently and correct me if
- 1:30:48Speaker 2: I'm wrong here, Chuck. But I felt like he answered
- 1:30:50Speaker 2: the bell all weekend long.
- 1:30:51Speaker 1: Oh for sure, he's been our best hitter here in
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I don't care what pictures.
- 1:30:58Speaker 5: On the mound.
- 1:30:58Speaker 1: He just seems to be having the most consistent at
- 1:31:01Speaker 1: bats right now. And then he leaves with an injury.
- 1:31:04Speaker 1: So a team that's banged up, you know, it pulls
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: at that hammy. I mean, as a sports viewer, I've
- 1:31:10Speaker 1: seen this a million times. I mean, that's never a
- 1:31:13Speaker 1: good thing. He says he's fine afterwards. Do you think
- 1:31:16Speaker 1: he's fine or do you think we have to just
- 1:31:18Speaker 1: accept that we're gonna be without dom Can zone for
- 1:31:20Speaker 1: a little while.
- 1:31:25Speaker 2: I'm not ready to accept that we're gonna be without
- 1:31:28Speaker 2: dom Can Zone for a little bit. But if history
- 1:31:32Speaker 2: does repeat itself, we're looking at the Randy Rolls rine
- 1:31:35Speaker 2: of timeline and how that kind of unfolded. I think
- 1:31:37Speaker 2: we all, you know, felt like the road trip coming home. Oh,
- 1:31:40Speaker 2: he'll be okay, he'll be okay, and then all of
- 1:31:42Speaker 2: a sudden boom, there was a slurry of roster transactions
- 1:31:45Speaker 2: and Randy Cobb himself in the middle of that. I'm
- 1:31:48Speaker 2: gonna stay optimistic because I know how often dom can DH.
- 1:31:52Speaker 2: And if the hamstring is good enough to DH, then
- 1:31:56Speaker 2: maybe he can put a rap on it and keep
- 1:31:58Speaker 2: some compression on it and maybe rind out a little
- 1:32:00Speaker 2: bit by keeping him off his feet in the outfield.
- 1:32:03Speaker 2: But with the injuries and Maritors are battling right now,
- 1:32:05Speaker 2: they needed him to slide into right field to play
- 1:32:08Speaker 2: some defense. But if they can keep him off his
- 1:32:10Speaker 2: feet a little bit in DH, maybe he can battle
- 1:32:12Speaker 2: through this a little bit.
- 1:32:14Speaker 1: You know, you put this uniform on you. You played
- 1:32:17Speaker 1: at T Mobile, You faced right eyes, you faced lefties.
- 1:32:22Speaker 1: Did you have trouble hitting left handers? Did the ball
- 1:32:26Speaker 1: seem to come from a place that you didn't pick
- 1:32:29Speaker 1: up as well when you faced left handers? Why is
- 1:32:32Speaker 1: this team struggling so badly? If not that, what is
- 1:32:35Speaker 1: the reason why they can't hit lefties?
- 1:32:40Speaker 2: Did you look up my stats before you asked that question.
- 1:32:42Speaker 5: I did not.
- 1:32:45Speaker 2: Yeah, that's smart, I didn't. I definitely had some reverse splits,
- 1:32:49Speaker 2: did you really? I struggled against left handed pitching as well.
- 1:32:53Speaker 2: The obviously, the breaking balls are so much better at
- 1:32:56Speaker 2: the major league level. The way that big league pitchers
- 1:33:00Speaker 2: can throw a breaking ball without there being like a
- 1:33:02Speaker 2: broken dot or a seam on there, which allows you
- 1:33:04Speaker 2: as a hitter to pick it up sooner, it's unbelievable,
- 1:33:07Speaker 2: and I think the technology that the pitchers have gives
- 1:33:09Speaker 2: them a massive advantage. It's just a really tough angle
- 1:33:13Speaker 2: for the right handed hitters with the left handed breaking ball.
- 1:33:15Speaker 2: The pitch that's breaking into you, you would think would
- 1:33:18Speaker 2: actually work better, but for what has changed on the
- 1:33:22Speaker 2: offensive side with the swing path of everyone trying to
- 1:33:26Speaker 2: get a little bit deeper or longer with the barrel
- 1:33:29Speaker 2: behind contact so they can generate power and deliver it through,
- 1:33:33Speaker 2: it's so much harder to know where that lefty breaking
- 1:33:37Speaker 2: ball is going to go to. And also it's just
- 1:33:39Speaker 2: not an angle that you see all the time. It's
- 1:33:41Speaker 2: tough to simulate a right handed pitcher. If you just
- 1:33:44Speaker 2: look at rosters across the major leagues. It is lopsided
- 1:33:48Speaker 2: with how many right handed pitchers you're going to see
- 1:33:50Speaker 2: and a roster as opposed to left handed. So now
- 1:33:52Speaker 2: it's just a nuanced, kind of funky angle, you know,
- 1:33:55Speaker 2: spin secondary pitches. It's not an excuse, trust me, it's not.
- 1:34:00Speaker 2: Because the Mariners they saw three really good ones in
- 1:34:03Speaker 2: a row this weekend. We've also watched them have a
- 1:34:06Speaker 2: lot of success against lefties. Remember that Sacramento Series a
- 1:34:09Speaker 2: few weeks ago when they went to Northern California and
- 1:34:12Speaker 2: swept the A's to get into first place. They battled
- 1:34:15Speaker 2: some tough lefties there. They took advantage of it. And
- 1:34:17Speaker 2: then this weekend rolls around, the Red Sox come in
- 1:34:20Speaker 2: and bring, honestly, three really good lefties into town. And
- 1:34:24Speaker 2: Early Early came out there and threw a tremendous game,
- 1:34:27Speaker 2: and he was so effectively wild right I never felt
- 1:34:30Speaker 2: like the Mariners that are settled into the batter's box
- 1:34:32Speaker 2: because the lieutenant hitters were worried about that ninety five
- 1:34:36Speaker 2: on our fastball that was coming up at their front shoulder,
- 1:34:38Speaker 2: and then he'd snapped some nasty break the balls off
- 1:34:40Speaker 2: of it. Like it just never looked like guys settled
- 1:34:42Speaker 2: in and early did and he threw a tremendous game.
- 1:34:45Speaker 2: But it was a positive sign to see this offense
- 1:34:47Speaker 2: come around on Sunday against Peyton Toley, who is a
- 1:34:49Speaker 2: really good left hand pitcher and has the numbers to
- 1:34:52Speaker 2: back it up. Go out there and beat him to
- 1:34:55Speaker 2: salvage this series the best they could.
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: Yeah, but dead fricking last and adding average slugging and
- 1:35:01Speaker 1: ops against lefties.
- 1:35:03Speaker 2: This it's not great. It's not going to get this
- 1:35:05Speaker 2: team to where they want to go. I completely agree
- 1:35:07Speaker 2: with you there, and that needs to be addressed. And
- 1:35:09Speaker 2: it's it's disappointing to see that this has been a
- 1:35:11Speaker 2: big storyline this year is that this lineup can't hit lefties.
- 1:35:15Speaker 2: And then I can almost guarantee you that at some
- 1:35:17Speaker 2: point there the organization will have to step in and
- 1:35:20Speaker 2: make some changes if this will this trend continues.
- 1:35:24Speaker 1: Now, That's what I was going to ask, I mean,
- 1:35:25Speaker 1: how much longer do you stick with it? Does it
- 1:35:27Speaker 1: feel like something that has to person personnel has to change?
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: Do you give it a little while longer to see
- 1:35:34Speaker 1: if ref Schneider and company? I mean, can zone seems
- 1:35:38Speaker 1: to be an answer right now? Against lefties if he
- 1:35:40Speaker 1: can stay healthy.
- 1:35:42Speaker 2: I think they're showing us right now what they're willing
- 1:35:44Speaker 2: to do of throwing more lefties into the left handed
- 1:35:47Speaker 2: starting pitcher. It's like, hey, if it's got to be
- 1:35:49Speaker 2: a left on left because it's our best guys, then
- 1:35:51Speaker 2: we're going to start making that transition. But I've always
- 1:35:53Speaker 2: felt like the runway was to the All Star Break
- 1:35:56Speaker 2: before those hard roster decisions needed to be made. And
- 1:36:00Speaker 2: I think some of those players know that, and I
- 1:36:04Speaker 2: think we'll see how the organization makes that adjustment and
- 1:36:07Speaker 2: when we come back for when they come back from
- 1:36:09Speaker 2: the also break.
- 1:36:09Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's fair.
- 1:36:10Speaker 1: Former Mariner Ryan Heae with us of course on Mariner's
- 1:36:12Speaker 1: TV this year and our guest usually Tuesdays at nine,
- 1:36:15Speaker 1: but joining us here on a Monday at nine today
- 1:36:19Speaker 1: to talk a little Mariner baseball. I want to talk
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: about a left handed hitter, but not his hitting. Josh Naylor.
- 1:36:25Speaker 1: You've played first base last year he was so slick
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: over there, and then this year we just keep seeing
- 1:36:30Speaker 1: mistake after a mistake after a mistake. What do you
- 1:36:34Speaker 1: think is the problem the issue with Josh Naylor the
- 1:36:37Speaker 1: defensive player.
- 1:36:41Speaker 2: My opinion is he's overly aggressive to Baseball's I think
- 1:36:45Speaker 2: there needs to be better communication between Josh and Cole Young.
- 1:36:50Speaker 2: We all know how great Cole Young has been defensive
- 1:36:52Speaker 2: this year. I think it's time for Josh to recognize
- 1:36:56Speaker 2: that and maybe give Cole a little bit longer. You know,
- 1:37:00Speaker 2: of a radius that he's covering over in second base,
- 1:37:03Speaker 2: I think going I think Josh has a hard time
- 1:37:06Speaker 2: going to his glove side, so for him, that's his
- 1:37:08Speaker 2: that's his right hand side going in that three four hole.
- 1:37:11Speaker 2: I think there's mistakes that have happened there. Obviously, Throat
- 1:37:13Speaker 2: to second base, like that's got to be more consistent.
- 1:37:15Speaker 2: He doesn't have the best arm in the league. This
- 1:37:18Speaker 2: is a player though, that's you know, kind of seeing
- 1:37:21Speaker 2: a little bit of right feet, a little bit of
- 1:37:22Speaker 2: first base, and his call first base home for a while,
- 1:37:25Speaker 2: and came to Seattle last year and played lights out
- 1:37:28Speaker 2: first base, so we all know he's capable of doing it.
- 1:37:31Speaker 2: What I'm trying to figure out is was some of
- 1:37:34Speaker 2: this a result of the team not playing great collectively
- 1:37:37Speaker 2: and then Josh not playing great offense will be to
- 1:37:40Speaker 2: start the season. Was he trying to find different ways
- 1:37:43Speaker 2: to impact the team, because I know how much he
- 1:37:45Speaker 2: cares and how in it he is. Was he trying
- 1:37:47Speaker 2: to do too much? And he felt like maybe defense
- 1:37:50Speaker 2: was a place he could do it. And now there
- 1:37:52Speaker 2: are some bad habits that have been, you know, accumulated
- 1:37:55Speaker 2: throughout the course of the season, and now he's trying
- 1:37:57Speaker 2: to reel on it. But there's a lot of plays
- 1:37:59Speaker 2: where I watch him over there where he looks uncomfortable
- 1:38:02Speaker 2: and uneasy. And I know for a fact that defensive
- 1:38:05Speaker 2: slumps can happen just like offensive ones can.
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, it looks like he's just trying. He's
- 1:38:09Speaker 1: trying to make the position look sexier than it is,
- 1:38:13Speaker 1: Like like just he already looks.
- 1:38:15Speaker 2: Like sexy, like you got the you got the cleats on.
- 1:38:17Speaker 2: I've always felt like, I don't know if he ever
- 1:38:19Speaker 2: wore a pair of like Jordan the Levens or Jordan Four's,
- 1:38:22Speaker 2: like all the cleats that he wears. I love the shoes.
- 1:38:25Speaker 2: They're tremendous, but they're not the most agile shoe Like
- 1:38:29Speaker 2: you don't like they're heavy, they're clunky, And I felt
- 1:38:32Speaker 2: like that early on. And if he hears me say that,
- 1:38:36Speaker 2: he might fight me, honestly, because I know how much
- 1:38:37Speaker 2: he loves his shoes. Me no disrespect to the slag,
- 1:38:41Speaker 2: but I also know like some of those shoes that
- 1:38:43Speaker 2: are a little heavy and can weigh it down, and
- 1:38:45Speaker 2: like that can that can pile up a little bit.
- 1:38:47Speaker 1: I sure hope that's not the cause, right Ryan, heally
- 1:38:51Speaker 1: is with us. Cal's not getting the results since he
- 1:38:54Speaker 1: come off. He's come off the injury list. Still hasn't
- 1:38:57Speaker 1: it a home run batting average still a one sixty two.
- 1:39:00Speaker 1: But are you seeing an improved approach from Cal since
- 1:39:04Speaker 1: he came off the injury list?
- 1:39:06Speaker 2: Certainly more importantly, it looks like teams are pitching around
- 1:39:10Speaker 2: him right. Have you noticed.
- 1:39:12Speaker 1: That a whole lot of not a.
- 1:39:14Speaker 2: Whole lot of attacking the strike zone with Cal Rawley
- 1:39:17Speaker 2: right now? So, which which tells me that the advanced
- 1:39:19Speaker 2: scouting departments of these opposing teams were watching Cal on
- 1:39:23Speaker 2: his rehabit rehab assignment. So I went, oh, that guy
- 1:39:26Speaker 2: looks locked in. Let's not let him beat us this weekend.
- 1:39:28Speaker 2: That's what it looked like to me. Cal also hit
- 1:39:30Speaker 2: a ball, I think it was the first or second
- 1:39:33Speaker 2: game back where he flew out to right field deep
- 1:39:37Speaker 2: where it's like oh, he just missed that and then
- 1:39:38Speaker 2: he got robbed, I believe on a home run as well. Obviously,
- 1:39:42Speaker 2: he's had a lot of opportunities to hit on the
- 1:39:44Speaker 2: right hand side of the plate this past weekend, which
- 1:39:46Speaker 2: I think is really good for him. He looks way
- 1:39:49Speaker 2: more comfortable. The approach looks like the normal col So
- 1:39:53Speaker 2: for me, if you think about the you know, the
- 1:39:55Speaker 2: chronological order of how this starts to click. His approach
- 1:39:58Speaker 2: is locked in. He's swinging his pitches. The power is
- 1:40:01Speaker 2: going to show up, and when it shows up for
- 1:40:02Speaker 2: a guy like Cal, it shows up in bunches.
- 1:40:05Speaker 1: All right, let's talk some pitching in our last few
- 1:40:07Speaker 1: minutes here with Ryan Healy Logan, Gilbert seems to be
- 1:40:11Speaker 1: locked back in, and he was even looking that way
- 1:40:15Speaker 1: before Cal came back. But I'm not sure it's a
- 1:40:18Speaker 1: coincidence that he's looked his best the last two starts
- 1:40:21Speaker 1: with Cal back behind the plate. So just your assessment
- 1:40:26Speaker 1: is that that look like a fun at bat to
- 1:40:27Speaker 1: you right now?
- 1:40:28Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert, Logan, Gilbert, I've been i'ven't seen that name
- 1:40:34Speaker 2: in a few weeks. There's a guy named Walter that
- 1:40:36Speaker 2: I keep watching pitch that's real nasty. That guy's mean
- 1:40:38Speaker 2: he's throwing ninety eight mile an hour power fastballs. By you,
- 1:40:42Speaker 2: I mean his ability, Like the velocity was upticking towards
- 1:40:46Speaker 2: the end of May. When I was up there, Goldie
- 1:40:49Speaker 2: and I were actually talking about that of how many
- 1:40:51Speaker 2: pitches at ninety seven ninety eight he was throwing per
- 1:40:53Speaker 2: outing compared to earlier in the month of May, in
- 1:40:55Speaker 2: the end of April, so something feels really good with
- 1:40:58Speaker 2: his sequence. And I do member there was a there
- 1:41:02Speaker 2: was like a dry bullpen where he was actually working.
- 1:41:05Speaker 2: Logan Ger was working with Jose Ferrer in the bullpen.
- 1:41:08Speaker 2: They were working on the move down the mount and
- 1:41:10Speaker 2: Ferrer was literally holding Logan's front hip as he was
- 1:41:13Speaker 2: coming down the mound, trying to get a little bit
- 1:41:15Speaker 2: more torque and coil. I want to give all the
- 1:41:18Speaker 2: credits to Jose fer Air, because I don't think anyone
- 1:41:20Speaker 2: has yet. I remember watching that though, and just thinking, wow,
- 1:41:23Speaker 2: like this is so cool, Like these are two big
- 1:41:25Speaker 2: leaguers just talking ball, trying to find that extra little
- 1:41:28Speaker 2: one percent together. But Logan looks so comfortable and confident
- 1:41:33Speaker 2: attacking the ult to fastballs that it always makes his
- 1:41:36Speaker 2: secondary pitches play up, but I think he's finally settled
- 1:41:38Speaker 2: in on the change up stay. Is the cutter actually effective?
- 1:41:42Speaker 2: You know what, I got a really nasty splitter. I'm
- 1:41:44Speaker 2: just gonna throw this thing with ninety eight and then
- 1:41:46Speaker 2: I'll mix in some breaking balls off of it. I
- 1:41:48Speaker 2: think KL brings that extra level of conviction for him
- 1:41:51Speaker 2: being behind the plate as well.
- 1:41:52Speaker 5: Well.
- 1:41:52Speaker 1: A rough PR day for the piggyback on Friday, That's
- 1:41:56Speaker 1: that's like the worst scenario. I mean, you don't know
- 1:41:58Speaker 1: how game's going to unfold, but this experimentation that's gone on,
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: that's the worst case scenario. That the starter looks like
- 1:42:06Speaker 1: he's got plenty of juice left, he looks great, but
- 1:42:09Speaker 1: you've already committed beforehand to taking him out after the
- 1:42:13Speaker 1: fifth inning, and then the reliever doesn't.
- 1:42:15Speaker 5: Quite have it that day.
- 1:42:17Speaker 1: So obviously the anti piggyback people had their day.
- 1:42:23Speaker 5: They turned it into a weekend. They're still very angry
- 1:42:26Speaker 5: about it.
- 1:42:26Speaker 1: Here on this Monday, where's Ryan heay with the entire experiment?
- 1:42:32Speaker 5: Here on this Monday morning.
- 1:42:35Speaker 2: I tried to remove my brain wandering too far into
- 1:42:40Speaker 2: possibilities just because Jerry Depoto and Justin Holland are been
- 1:42:43Speaker 2: so cut and dry of this is not a move
- 1:42:46Speaker 2: that we're willing to make, of moving one of the
- 1:42:47Speaker 2: starters of the bullpen, like they want to keep every
- 1:42:50Speaker 2: starter stretched out, and I understand why. I get that.
- 1:42:54Speaker 2: It's frustrating what it doesn't work, and it's frustrating when
- 1:42:58Speaker 2: the offense doesn't do their job because unfortunately, the easy
- 1:43:02Speaker 2: target has been the piggyback acronym or phrase so far
- 1:43:07Speaker 2: this season, and anytime the Mariners don't win a game
- 1:43:09Speaker 2: and they have the piggyback, the whole city just erupts. Oh,
- 1:43:14Speaker 2: it's a it's a storm. Anywhere you look on social media,
- 1:43:17Speaker 2: and if you walk around, you go to the local Starbucks,
- 1:43:20Speaker 2: don't you say the word piggyback is a brawl might
- 1:43:22Speaker 2: breakout at this point. It's I'm interested to see how
- 1:43:27Speaker 2: the evolution of it functions over the last few weeks
- 1:43:29Speaker 2: because we've been so used to seeing, you know, Bryce Miller,
- 1:43:32Speaker 2: Lewis Castillo attached to that piggyback, but it's going to
- 1:43:35Speaker 2: branch off to every starter in this staff. So I
- 1:43:38Speaker 2: hope that maybe there's some you know, variety that is presented,
- 1:43:43Speaker 2: maybe some adjustments that are made as the coaching staff
- 1:43:46Speaker 2: is getting more familiar with this because it doesn't look
- 1:43:48Speaker 2: like it's going anywhere for the immediate future. How they
- 1:43:51Speaker 2: manage a game to game no matters. But what I'm
- 1:43:53Speaker 2: going to lean on here, Chuck, is that when the
- 1:43:55Speaker 2: offense doesn't get hits, when the offense doesn't score runs,
- 1:43:58Speaker 2: it doesn't matter who's pitching on the mound. The Mariners
- 1:44:01Speaker 2: fans have seen this for King Felix for a whole
- 1:44:03Speaker 2: lot of years, a tremendous pitcher. Winning say Young's with
- 1:44:06Speaker 2: no run support is great, But as a win your
- 1:44:08Speaker 2: World Series, how does this team get more consistent with
- 1:44:11Speaker 2: the components and the ingredients that actually lead to the
- 1:44:14Speaker 2: playoff birth in the World Series.
- 1:44:16Speaker 1: Well, I'm looking forward to the photo of Bunny when
- 1:44:18Speaker 1: she went on the Chuck and Buck radio show and
- 1:44:21Speaker 1: hung out with Uncle Chuck. So I'm expecting that post
- 1:44:24Speaker 1: to be made here pretty soon.
- 1:44:26Speaker 7: Right right right, he's taking the photo.
- 1:44:31Speaker 3: There we go.
- 1:44:32Speaker 12: The Bundy made it to the radio man, Monny Man
- 1:44:35Speaker 12: to kJ R, All right, man, awesome stuff, have a
- 1:44:42Speaker 12: great week and we will.
- 1:44:43Speaker 5: We'll talk to you again next week.
- 1:44:45Speaker 2: You two guys, go Mariners.
- 1:44:46Speaker 1: All Ryan elate joining us right here on Chuck and
- 1:44:49Speaker 1: Buck in the morning. Jason Bottrell's gonna join us next.
- 1:44:52Speaker 1: He had a busy Father's Day and it had nothing
- 1:44:54Speaker 1: to do with his children. Sports Radio ninety three point
- 1:44:57Speaker 1: three kJ RFM. Hey, great Monday morning to you. It
- 1:45:18Speaker 1: is Chuck and Ashley with you. Gonna be a warm day,
- 1:45:22Speaker 1: but another sunshiny day. It's looking like as far as
- 1:45:24Speaker 1: I can tell. And yesterday, of course, Happy Father's Day
- 1:45:29Speaker 1: to everyone yesterday. Some fathers have a beer. Some I'll
- 1:45:34Speaker 1: have a bourbon on Father's Day. Some say, you know,
- 1:45:37Speaker 1: you know, you know, I'm around the kids. I'll have
- 1:45:40Speaker 1: a lemonade. Our next guest, apparently, on Father's Day, makes trades,
- 1:45:45Speaker 1: big significant trades and re signs players. That's how he
- 1:45:49Speaker 1: spends his Father's Day. Mom, Dad won't throw the ball
- 1:45:53Speaker 1: back to me. He's busy making trades again. That's how
- 1:45:57Speaker 1: Jason Bottrell spent his Father's Day and chill now here
- 1:46:00Speaker 1: on the radio program.
- 1:46:01Speaker 5: Hello sir, how are.
- 1:46:02Speaker 1: You very good?
- 1:46:04Speaker 5: Guys?
- 1:46:04Speaker 11: Thank you very much for having me on.
- 1:46:06Speaker 5: Is that about it? You see?
- 1:46:07Speaker 1: You just spent your whole day on the phone yesterday.
- 1:46:11Speaker 11: Yeah, we've been on the phone quite a bit the
- 1:46:13Speaker 11: last few days, but went to the Mariners game Saturday night.
- 1:46:16Speaker 11: Was think about maybe going to the Mariners game on Sunday,
- 1:46:19Speaker 11: but that didn't materialize. The stuff so coming together happy
- 1:46:21Speaker 11: about the acquisitions yesterday?
- 1:46:23Speaker 1: Yesterday for sure, all right, Well, I want to talk
- 1:46:26Speaker 1: about the thing that at least came across our timeline. Second,
- 1:46:30Speaker 1: maybe it happened earlier in the day. I don't know,
- 1:46:32Speaker 1: But the extension decision with Bobby McMahon, how big of
- 1:46:37Speaker 1: a priority I mean, is it number one? Was it
- 1:46:39Speaker 1: the top priority this offseason?
- 1:46:42Speaker 11: This was of our returning players, Yes, it was. You know,
- 1:46:45Speaker 11: Bobby came in at the trade deadline, had a huge
- 1:46:48Speaker 11: impact on our team right.
- 1:46:49Speaker 5: Off the bat.
- 1:46:50Speaker 11: He saw his size, his speed, his shot just fit
- 1:46:54Speaker 11: really well into lane system here. And you know, it's
- 1:46:57Speaker 11: fun watching things as things progressed here. He told Bobby
- 1:47:00Speaker 11: we had a lot of interest in bringing him back.
- 1:47:03Speaker 11: I think after the season he really got to know
- 1:47:06Speaker 11: Seattle on the Pacific Northwest, hiking, did a little swimming,
- 1:47:10Speaker 11: even in the South Lake Union, which was a little chilly,
- 1:47:13Speaker 11: I think for sure, golf like, he got to know
- 1:47:16Speaker 11: the area really well. And uh, you know, We continue
- 1:47:19Speaker 11: to talk both Lane and myself through this entire process
- 1:47:22Speaker 11: with him, and ecstatic to have him on board, and
- 1:47:25Speaker 11: great that Bobby made a decision to be out in
- 1:47:27Speaker 11: Pacific Northwest for next six years here now.
- 1:47:29Speaker 1: Now, unfortunately he didn't do a lot of winning when
- 1:47:32Speaker 1: he was in that cracking uniform, but he did a
- 1:47:33Speaker 1: lot of scoring. So what does this say about the
- 1:47:36Speaker 1: strength of the organization that a player can come here
- 1:47:40Speaker 1: here here for a short period of time, not really
- 1:47:43Speaker 1: win a lot, and yet this is where he wants
- 1:47:45Speaker 1: to be.
- 1:47:47Speaker 11: Well, I think it's just how we treat people off
- 1:47:49Speaker 11: the off the ice here. You know what facility, the
- 1:47:51Speaker 11: facilities we have here, you know, strength and performance staff.
- 1:47:56Speaker 11: You know, Bobby's a guy that really impressed. These are
- 1:47:58Speaker 11: the things that we didn't know about him were you know,
- 1:48:00Speaker 11: you know, you see it firsthand, just his dedication to
- 1:48:03Speaker 11: his craft, whether it's in the weight room or it's
- 1:48:07Speaker 11: preparing for practice or working on his game in practice.
- 1:48:11Speaker 11: And I think he actually enjoyed he saw some of
- 1:48:13Speaker 11: the young talent we have, certainly later on the season
- 1:48:16Speaker 11: two with some of these guys that we called up
- 1:48:17Speaker 11: from Coachella Valley to he saw the young talent coming
- 1:48:21Speaker 11: through here, accept a little bit of a more of
- 1:48:23Speaker 11: a leadership role. That got him excited moving forward here too.
- 1:48:25Speaker 11: So no, these are the things that we talked about
- 1:48:28Speaker 11: just how we would utilize him. Lane spoke extensively with
- 1:48:32Speaker 11: him on just you know, trying to maximize Bobby as
- 1:48:35Speaker 11: a hockey player, but then also selling them just on
- 1:48:37Speaker 11: our vision here with our young players. You look at
- 1:48:40Speaker 11: obviously with the trade with Mackie Semaskevitchy yesterday, young players
- 1:48:44Speaker 11: like Berkeley Catton, Fisker, Molguard, Ryan Winterton, like, we have
- 1:48:49Speaker 11: a lot of young Fords coming in the mix and
- 1:48:52Speaker 11: those that that's what got Bobby excited about signing up
- 1:48:54Speaker 11: with us.
- 1:48:54Speaker 1: Moving forward here, Jason Botral is with us, her general
- 1:48:57Speaker 1: manager for the Seattle Crack and a busy son day
- 1:49:00Speaker 1: for him. Not only does he extend Bobby McMahon to
- 1:49:03Speaker 1: a six year contract, also.
- 1:49:05Speaker 5: Made a trade.
- 1:49:06Speaker 1: You heard him mention the name Mackie sam As Skavitch
- 1:49:09Speaker 1: over from the Florida Panthers. So this is just blank
- 1:49:12Speaker 1: canvas for a lot of US Crack and fans tell
- 1:49:14Speaker 1: us about Sama Skavitch, give us the scouting report.
- 1:49:18Speaker 11: Well, at the end of the day. You know, you
- 1:49:19Speaker 11: look at what we've tried to bring into this organization,
- 1:49:22Speaker 11: whether it's Chandler Stevenson, Vince Dunn, Brandon Monter. You're trying
- 1:49:25Speaker 11: to bring in players who have won Stanley Cupps. We're
- 1:49:27Speaker 11: also been trying to bring in younger players into our mix,
- 1:49:30Speaker 11: right we you know, players who are in and around
- 1:49:33Speaker 11: that's a twenty to twenty five year old age category,
- 1:49:36Speaker 11: and mackiw we have both. We have a young player
- 1:49:38Speaker 11: who has won a Stanley Cup, you know, similar to
- 1:49:42Speaker 11: you know, fits in that same age category of age
- 1:49:44Speaker 11: twenty three, played with Matty Benier's at the University of Michigan.
- 1:49:48Speaker 11: You know, some of the things that we just talked
- 1:49:50Speaker 11: to you about Bobby McMahon and the things that we
- 1:49:52Speaker 11: really liked about Bobby's game, Macki has the same attributes,
- 1:49:56Speaker 11: great speed, gets it on the ford, check, has a
- 1:49:59Speaker 11: great really we believe, you know, he can be a
- 1:50:02Speaker 11: scorer in our system moving forward. Obviously playing on a
- 1:50:05Speaker 11: very talented Florida team, I think he'll get more of
- 1:50:08Speaker 11: an opportunity here and I was very excited to bring
- 1:50:10Speaker 11: him into our mix.
- 1:50:12Speaker 1: You know, last year I heard from Lane Lambert a
- 1:50:15Speaker 1: little frustration that we're not getting enough shots on goal
- 1:50:19Speaker 1: near goal, just not being aggressive enough with our with
- 1:50:22Speaker 1: our shooting. McMahon seems to satisfy that last season. I'm
- 1:50:27Speaker 1: hearing that maybe Samuskevitch is the same way. Is this
- 1:50:31Speaker 1: something that we can arrive at a conclusion that you're
- 1:50:35Speaker 1: trying to find guys that are answering the bell that
- 1:50:39Speaker 1: that Lambert was ringing last year? Percent Like, I think
- 1:50:44Speaker 1: both of these players have a shooter mentality and we
- 1:50:47Speaker 1: love to see that. It's also what gets us excited
- 1:50:49Speaker 1: about Yanni Newman, who's played some games with our organization
- 1:50:52Speaker 1: up in Seattle here too excited about his future again
- 1:50:55Speaker 1: another shooter. We think we continue can continue to develop
- 1:50:59Speaker 1: the these playmakers that are in our centers in Veneer's
- 1:51:03Speaker 1: and Berkeley Caton and Chandler Stevenson here. Finding guys who
- 1:51:06Speaker 1: want to Hey, their first thought is get pucks the net.
- 1:51:09Speaker 1: That's what we're looking for, and both of these players,
- 1:51:11Speaker 1: Mackie and Bobby can certainly do that. Now, you guys
- 1:51:15Speaker 1: have had quite a public announcement declaration that you were
- 1:51:19Speaker 1: gonna not You're gonna turn over every stone try to
- 1:51:21Speaker 1: figure out why this organization is is not having more success.
- 1:51:27Speaker 1: So what was the overall conclusion that you drew from it.
- 1:51:33Speaker 11: Well, it's an ongoing process obviously with Sportsology Mike Ford,
- 1:51:37Speaker 11: who runs their organization, and it's been actually a really
- 1:51:40Speaker 11: good process from us, you know, it's been enjoyable working
- 1:51:44Speaker 11: with him evaluating you know, each one of our departments
- 1:51:48Speaker 11: going through it. Not only evaluating what we've done over
- 1:51:52Speaker 11: the first five years as an organization, but also here
- 1:51:54Speaker 11: you look at Sportsology, what they've done with different organizations
- 1:51:58Speaker 11: and NBA, NFL, Major League Baseball, just certain ideas on
- 1:52:03Speaker 11: how we can communicate better, how we can organize things
- 1:52:06Speaker 11: better as our organization continues to grow. So no, I've
- 1:52:09Speaker 11: certainly enjoyed working with Mike a lot. You know, we're
- 1:52:13Speaker 11: going to continue to sort of work with them from
- 1:52:16Speaker 11: a consultant basis to actually implement some of these things
- 1:52:18Speaker 11: as we move forward here. They certainly gave us the information.
- 1:52:21Speaker 11: I know our business side is going to roll some
- 1:52:23Speaker 11: of the stuff out to our season ticket holders in
- 1:52:25Speaker 11: the near future. But overall, it's been a great process
- 1:52:28Speaker 11: just to have a reflection on, hey, what are we
- 1:52:31Speaker 11: doing well, but where are the areas that we can
- 1:52:33Speaker 11: really improve on.
- 1:52:34Speaker 1: Is Sunday the biggest splash of this offseason or is
- 1:52:37Speaker 1: it just an indication of more to come?
- 1:52:41Speaker 11: Well, look, I think it's just something that we will
- 1:52:43Speaker 11: continue to continue to look at things. Obviously excited about
- 1:52:46Speaker 11: the two editions there and Bobby and Mackie. You know,
- 1:52:50Speaker 11: this is an interesting week this There's gonna be a
- 1:52:52Speaker 11: lot of discussions going on leading into the draft here.
- 1:52:55Speaker 5: I think you look.
- 1:52:56Speaker 11: At free agency, there's just not the depth of of
- 1:53:00Speaker 11: top end players in this year's class, So you know,
- 1:53:03Speaker 11: the way we look at things. We'll certainly continue to
- 1:53:06Speaker 11: discuss and talk to different free agents out there. But
- 1:53:09Speaker 11: you know, I think the bigger opportunity to really improve
- 1:53:14Speaker 11: your team is going to come through the trade market here,
- 1:53:16Speaker 11: So that's what we'll continue to look at. And you
- 1:53:18Speaker 11: know will be a fun week just with trade discussions,
- 1:53:21Speaker 11: preparations for the draft, so looking forward to.
- 1:53:24Speaker 5: It for sure. Is the seventh pig in the draft
- 1:53:26Speaker 5: and which you still have?
- 1:53:27Speaker 1: You gave away the twenty fifth to get Samuskevitch, but
- 1:53:30Speaker 1: you still have the seventh? Is it available? I mean,
- 1:53:33Speaker 1: are you willing to move it for the right deal?
- 1:53:37Speaker 11: We have to obviously look at all opportunities and stuff. Now,
- 1:53:40Speaker 11: we put a value on that pick, for sure. If
- 1:53:42Speaker 11: you look at the draft this year, you know we
- 1:53:45Speaker 11: think there's anywhere and that's sort of top ten. You're
- 1:53:48Speaker 11: getting a top four defenseman or a top six forward
- 1:53:52Speaker 11: for sure, right, and that's a that's a huge attribute
- 1:53:54Speaker 11: to bring into your organization. So we certainly put value
- 1:53:57Speaker 11: on picking there. Our scouts have done a great job
- 1:54:00Speaker 11: and being ready for so many different scenarios at number seven.
- 1:54:03Speaker 11: But yeah, we certainly have talked to other teams about
- 1:54:06Speaker 11: moving that pick if the right trade is there.
- 1:54:08Speaker 1: All right, sounds good. You fired up for the draft?
- 1:54:11Speaker 1: What's a GM? I mean the GM GM with the draft?
- 1:54:14Speaker 1: My goodness, I meant, this has got to be your Christmas, right, No, it's.
- 1:54:19Speaker 11: An exciting time, especially just you know, we're having all
- 1:54:21Speaker 11: our scouts come in this week too and into Seattle,
- 1:54:24Speaker 11: like they've spent so much time throughout the year working
- 1:54:26Speaker 11: on different things, and obviously there's a focus on the
- 1:54:28Speaker 11: top of the draft, but you know, there's just this
- 1:54:31Speaker 11: passionate about players in the fifth, sixth, seventh round and
- 1:54:33Speaker 11: stuff too. So it's a fun a fun week for
- 1:54:35Speaker 11: our organization without a doubt.
- 1:54:36Speaker 5: All right, well, thank you, Sarah.
- 1:54:37Speaker 1: We appreciate your time this morning, and we'll chat again soon.
- 1:54:43Speaker 5: Sounds good, all great.
- 1:54:44Speaker 3: Dave.
- 1:54:44Speaker 1: Jason Botchell joining us right here, general manager of the
- 1:54:48Speaker 1: Seattle Crack and again very aggressive Sunday. Bobby McMahon a
- 1:54:51Speaker 1: Kraken for the next six years or so, it seems,
- 1:54:55Speaker 1: signed yesterday to a six year, thirty four and a
- 1:54:57Speaker 1: half million dollar deal, and Mackie Amaskevitch acquired from the
- 1:55:01Speaker 1: Florida Panthers. That's the first round pick, not their own
- 1:55:06Speaker 1: one that they had acquired in a previous deal twenty
- 1:55:09Speaker 1: fifth overall, and then a second round selection in twenty
- 1:55:13Speaker 1: twenty seven to add the twenty three year old Florida
- 1:55:16Speaker 1: former Florida Panther. So they have added to their depth
- 1:55:19Speaker 1: at the forward positions, obviously, and I think it's very
- 1:55:24Speaker 1: noteworthy they have added two very aggressive shooters of the puck,
- 1:55:30Speaker 1: which seemed to be a source of frustration in Lane
- 1:55:33Speaker 1: Lambert's first season with the Crack, and he couldn't even
- 1:55:36Speaker 1: get his guys to shoot the ball more, shoot the ball,
- 1:55:39Speaker 1: shoot the puck at the net more frequently, you know,
- 1:55:43Speaker 1: I mean, it's not just about getting that perfect look.
- 1:55:46Speaker 1: Sometimes you just got to put the puck on net.
- 1:55:48Speaker 1: You see it all the time, goes off of skate,
- 1:55:50Speaker 1: goes off a kneecap, goes off an eyebrow, you never know, Yeah,
- 1:55:54Speaker 1: the deflection that could result.
- 1:55:57Speaker 5: In a goal. And so he wants to see more
- 1:56:00Speaker 5: more of that.
- 1:56:00Speaker 1: You certainly saw it from Bobby McMahon at the end
- 1:56:03Speaker 1: of last season, and apparently Samuskevitch is in that same mold.
- 1:56:07Speaker 1: So Jason Botchrall making it very clear that this is
- 1:56:11Speaker 1: a byproduct of that frustration. These two guys, one staying
- 1:56:16Speaker 1: here and the other one coming here from Florida. So
- 1:56:20Speaker 1: good stuff, and the draft's coming up later on this week.
- 1:56:24Speaker 1: Coming up next, we close out our show with one
- 1:56:27Speaker 1: last thing. Sports Radio ninety three point three KHRFM.