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Episode 156 | Bangali Babu · Corie Sheppard Podcast

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Pan Am.
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: I am the best of the guy and his babu.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: I am the very best of the guy and his babu.
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: I am the best of the guy and his babu.
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: I am the very best of the guy and his babu.
• 2:34
  Speaker 2: Welcome to episode 156 of the Corey Shepherd podcast.
• 2:37
  Speaker 2: Congratulations to the Guyana Amazon Warriors.
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: It's about time.
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: It's about time Only Tikiara people are too wicked.
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: It's the wickedest people that support Tikiara.
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: Kikiara is the wickedest people that help.
• 2:49
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to everybody who's been listening.
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in to all the new listeners.
• 2:55
  Speaker 2: I'm glad all of you are back Listeners, back in the Guyana Amazon Warriors.
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: And they come true in fine style.
• 3:00
  Speaker 2: In fine style, a blowout obliterate what was the other words you could use for that?
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: They destroy them completely.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: Salute the Guyana Amazon Warriors, special salute to Imran to hear the captain.
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: For those who don't know, it's CPL.
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: Right, they had to stay inside the Caribbean, mix up and culture and if you are a little bit broader, make sure they know what's going on here.
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: But CPL Guyana.
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: Finally, I think this is the sixth final, or the fifth or sixth final, and they finally get one.
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: They went so much final and lost.
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: They played tournament with the undefeated In every game except the final.
• 3:32
  Speaker 2: Why Tikiara fans like that, we can't get with you, so one we can't lose.
• 3:35
  Speaker 2: As soon as we lost, everybody started saying, oh, they sell out, watch out, oh no, I see text message, screen shutter, text message and thing going wrong saying Soon on the line say it take 300,000, bravo and Paula take 500,000 a piece.
• 3:52
  Speaker 2: And while I don't believe that, me and them wrong Honestly price, I guess Honestly price of grocery Thing going up me and them wrong at all.
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: But what I mean, come on, the thing is a better thing if other people win the thing they think it never stay the same.
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: It can't be that Trinidad, I don't find Tikiara side was fair in the first place.
• 4:10
  Speaker 2: You cannot pick a side In the region here where it's Paula, bravo, soon on the line, andrew Killed somebody, holy, okay, that's not right.
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: The longevity Of the tournament and the vibes and the action that we like every year for CPL, it's going to die.
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: If the thing look one sided, if it look like Only one team could win the league, well, die.
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: You need to have a healthy level of competition.
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: So salute to the Guyana Amazon Warriors.
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: As we say, healthy level of competition.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: I want the Guyana Guyana Chicken curry.
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: All they keep calm, it's one.
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: All they win, it's one.
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: All they record is still very much a losing record.
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: What is happening?
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: Why are they so?
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: Why it had to get so outer time and disrespectful.
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: Why does it remind me that?
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: Rich now and only poor?
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: Why is that necessary?
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: Is that necessary?
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: Guyanese Babu, the very best of the Guyanese Babu, tell me they are oiling on me and oil.
• 5:12
  Speaker 2: Why are you doing this?
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: Why are they having to talk to me like this?
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: Why are they being mean?
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: Why are they being rude?
• 5:18
  Speaker 2: Still the winningest franchise in the history of the CPL.
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: Still the winningest we went all about.
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: So salute to Guyana again, because Every time Stumps Podong in that stadium, just like in Borda, that game is sell out.
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: I think it's the biggest supporter of CPL In terms of the crowd on the ground had to be Guyana win, lose or draw the back in the team.
• 5:43
  Speaker 2: You know what.
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: It's true too.
• 5:44
  Speaker 2: If TKR was losing the way Guyana been losing over the years Losing finals and not showing up and things I don't know that brand Larra Stadium and the Oval would have been awful.
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: I see it with Jamaica.
• 5:56
  Speaker 2: Salute Andrew Fletcher and them, and first in Jamaica, do good, have a healthy dose Of Jamaica to play in this episode, for no good reason, really, you know, but a healthy dose of Jamaica, just like the Guyanese Babu.
• 6:08
  Speaker 2: And we have a few more songs to salute to Guyana.
• 6:10
  Speaker 2: But I find we in Trinidad must always remember that we are part of our region and if we dominate the region In a way that seems advantageous, it seems underneath or whatsoever Whether it's sports, culture, finance, people start to feel our way about it.
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: They are watching me a certain way, music, it doesn't matter what it is.
• 6:31
  Speaker 2: So we must always remember that the whole region had to do better together.
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: I was talking to Guyana's side, I hear too, but we must remember the whole region had to do better For we to remain as one.
• 6:41
  Speaker 2: I see over the course of this week Outside of the CPL and again salute to everybody who participated in the CPL.
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: I think they had a great tournament.
• 6:51
  Speaker 2: It always provides a level of entertainment and camaraderie and rivalry Among the region that we really, really need and I promise in myself now To start traveling to see some CPL games eventually.
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: Guyana might be hard, right, I went one CPL game in Guyana and it was difficult.
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, just getting into that stadium Is hard and as if I think I went two games.
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: I went and see Guyana play Jamaica and then I went and see Guyana play Trinidad and that trafficked me again to that stadium and again salute my boy, robi Rambrand.
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: Robi goes south more, so maybe I'll go a game in Guyana or two and try to go some of the other games up there.
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: I think CPL is definitely something we have to support.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: I see the tractors saying that they're not doing anything for the regional game and all that.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: There's something else we have to address but in terms of entertainment, rivalry, camaraderie among nations and, I think, cpl doing a lot To bring us together as a region.
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: But as much as we come together as a region, I think this will be pulling me up our two.
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: Well, you remember the comedian Major Hype.
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: So it's the Major Hype, right?
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: Major Hype is a comedian who seems to be based In Atlanta or New York and we are not sure what Caribbean island he from.
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: He had to be from someone on the island, but his comedy and his sketches Is really based on Like he would create a scenario and do a Guyana's version, a Bayesian version, a Trini version, a Jamaican, and it's very, very funny.
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: Not just the fact that he had the accents Don't call but in a lot of ways he had the mannerisms and the way we behave and the little microaggression he's finding every or microaggression In some of the territories.
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: He had the things Don't call the way he's cursing and he was on a panel over the last week and in the panel Remember, this man is a comedian, but in the panel they asked him about chicken curry Versus curry chicken.
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: I think it's an apt question, especially Because it was a chicken curry versus curry chicken, cpl final.
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: So he answered like any other Caribbean person who, not from Guyana, would answer.
• 8:46
  Speaker 2: He said I never hear not more chicken curry, nowhere else in the world, but in Guyana, which is true.
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: The first time I went what they call as 7 Curry right, it was a wedding and they said they have a 7 Curry, it's 7 Curry, that the tradition is that you curry 7 different things.
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: So it's had what I would have called dal, it's had Like bhaji.
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: I said at the front non-meetings, I think it was a head Lou at the end.
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: But when they go by the outside they come out the house now and they go in the car and pop the trunk Manna curry, chicken curry, all kind of thing curry inside.
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: But again they would say I have a chicken curry here, I have this curry.
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: You know me, I have this debate, this region, about Right and wrong.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: It's just tradition and culture and so on.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: You understand If you are in a panel and they ask you a question like that.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: To me is a question to open the door For a little peacock and a little old talk Between Trini and Guyanes particularly.
• 9:50
  Speaker 2: But major hype and I didn't think of that before.
• 9:54
  Speaker 2: He said when he go to Jamaica it's curry goat Everywhere else.
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: So he make the joke about it and he say Guyana different.
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: Anyway.
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: Guyana is not part of the Caribbean, guyana in South America.
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: But we love them, we accept them.
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: Right To be honest with you, I find it funny, but the chappelle always say Everything funny, tell us about you.
• 10:17
  Speaker 2: Guyanes people didn't find it was funny and they went up on major hype.
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: You know people storm your comments.
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: When he went live on instagram Saturday night he disrespectful and this and that, and they let him down and stop using and appropriating Guyanes culture, like not only going real far.
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: Guyana is in fact in South America To the point where I remember going to Guyana To lecture for the first time Salutation nation's university.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: But when I started lecturing there I had to break out of the habit of calling Guyana island and students would correct me all the time they say, yeah, but we not an island, we not a Caribbean island.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: It's true, it's a fact, right, not an island, but part of our continent and so on.
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: And While that might be true, they are one of the founding members Of the Caricom.
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: Is the headquarters of the Caricom still in Guyana or does it start off there?
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: But I mean, guyana is one of the Critical to the success of the region, even more so now we're going to.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: Now it's not the time to battle Guyana and play with them.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: Now Guyana owns the energy sector Of the region.
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: So you might want to be a little more Respectful of Guyana these days.
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: But at Guyana people need to calm down.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: To be a joke, demand, as a comedian, how major hype could say or not, say who is to be accepted in this region.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: He say, well, there's not one of the Caribbean island, only the Caribbean island.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: You know you're not a Caribbean person and I think that's an American thing.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: To where they say we are, they know they say the Caribbean, the Caribbean's.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: But I just find it was overdone and the reaction was too big.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: But Guyana's people are a little defensive there on edge.
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: So I'm glad they're winning with the oil, I'm glad they're winning the CPL.
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: I hope they calm down.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: I hope major hype don't stop doing Guyana's Actions and something, because when he do Guyana, guyana is one of the Funnier ones that he's do.
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: He have all of them down there, and I mean elephant in the room right, major hype had an issue back in the day With domestic violence that caused a lot of Caribbean people to turn their back on him, and it's not so much by the Domestic violence charges.
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe I shouldn't say that, but I mean not to say that If you get caught up, if you beat your wife right, if you beat your wife I don't know how to play it better and you do those things are not Necessarily as unforgivable and beyond a comeback as some people in this era would make it seem.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: Now, if you turn Wife, beat her and you're not finding your way back to the part of, you're not finding peace and treating everybody with respect, then you go out and distance yourself from your.
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: But we can't pretend that these things never happened before and people who have done Agreed, just things.
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: People, people like, not reconciled or rectified, what's he Looking for?
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: People turn their lives around.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: People live better and learn from their mistakes and evolve and all those types of things.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: So I'm not one where you hear that accusation or you see something like that come out and then immediately I no longer like it.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: What I didn't like was the response.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: I find that his response was very much Not taking ownership of what he did and looking to Find a reform or Better himself and change his ways.
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: It seemed as though it was like I was a victim too she had man and all and I was getting a little overbearing so I couldn't watch too much of that.
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: But since he's been back to the skits and doing that, I'm back to him.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: Sorry, he's very, very funny, so I hope he continues.
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: I hope he continues to do better and get stronger and stronger and fix the things that need to fix, just like all of us, all of you, are things to fix.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: All of we who's be canceling people and stop following them and you don't want to hear, not more them again.
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: I like it to know, Because he's act like we don't have little things.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: He's act like we don't beat women too.
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: You know Whatever is your version of beating women, but to look at them.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: That was just something Over the weekend and Before I get into our local thing here Again, sticking to the region, because clearly the region is winning and Trinidad is not, because that piece of batting I see from Puran, from Andrei Russell, from Pollard, that display I see of batting In the stadium, I'm not going to go another.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: This episode couldn't possibly Do a Trinidad.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: This had to be a regional episode Because that was embarrasing.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: We should have, well, let somebody else Go to that final.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: We should have let Guyana win that game, go straight to the final and let me go and play Jamaica and lose, and let Guyana play Jamaica Because we had no right in that final.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: We are the team with so much Big names and big.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: We just never Show up for the game we look like and sorry, sports people who don't Like not to talk about sports, but I think Pollard make a fatal mistake.
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: You have a game On the grounds where you had to play your finals right and you went and started a beat team.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: You went and started a whole set of men who In play for the whole season and who you're not In the final the hardest pitch to play On any region.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you Like your finals team there and let them express themselves and see what the pitch offers.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: But then again, what the hell are you in the world cricket pollard that championship all over the place anyway.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Last thing I want to talk about in the region here Is something that I've seen Following Buju Banton's new album release.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: Salute to Buju.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Buju have a new album.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Everybody, I think, buju is a Trinidadian favorite.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Everybody in Trinidad love Buju and typically when he come here Everything's selling out, the stadium's selling out His album.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: His music plays on the radio.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Heavy rotation.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Here's from his earliest music like Mr Mention and then all the way up to Today.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: His music still plays all the time and we love Buju.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Right, buju's a Trini too, but on His press store for this born For greatness album there's some things there that's so uncomfortable to watch Right now.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: Buju, if you know him, is a very militant type of person.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: When they see him in interviews he seems to be a difficult person To interview and there's certain questions he doesn't answer at all.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Like if you ask him about his inspiration For songs.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: He shuts down those things and he's very philosophical In his approach to answering questions.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: So it's hard to get a direct or straight Answer from him, sometimes almost as if he think the interviewer Out of him.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: I've seen him many, many times In interviews.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: You know when I see him Most comfortable talking to Interviewers when he on Ebro or Hot 97, when they call him and interview him, or when he on Fat Joe's show and they're Talking about him, he seems more Calm and more receptive to Questions and, you know, less defensive, which is odd to me.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like for your own People in the region, whether it's interviews in Jamaica or throughout the region.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Or I've seen him in interviews with people from Africa and he seems a little bit Closed off.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean A little bit defensive.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: But with these Yankees on them he seems very, very comfortable.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: But one interview in particular I mean listening to the music, and so Bujo is who he is.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean the music have enough vibes in it and have enough protests in it.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: So it's a little bit of a Post till Shiloh If you listen to till Shiloh, those nice favorites in our, in our musical history In the any region.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: But one thing that I found strange Was he show up on a political platform, having come back from the states and been so vocal about COVID and all the different things that the government Was doing and so on.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: He show up on an opposition platform.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: I found that to be odd.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: It's not the type of person Not talking about, the Bob Marley type.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Show up in a political rally and performance stage well, I guess that's what it was Show up in a Political meeting of the opposition party and I found it to be odd.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Keep me on that.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: In the quickness to condemn things, you know what I mean.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: This going around the government doing this, other artists not doing this, young artists not doing that.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: Interviewer asked him a question and I think innocently, compare them to Sisla and Capelton, which you had to understand it from a foreigner perspective, right as a trainee, the comparison of Buju to Capelton and Sisla with song, it's song, normal, it's like.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: That's why it is first because that wave of conscious music and when Dan Solo is taking over its slackness in the mid 90s, that wave of conscious music coming down to 2000, when Buju and the mudia, we would lump all of them together as the people who were behind that move when Buju started to grow dread.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: And do tell Shiloh and I can't remember the name of the album that came right after that, but those things change the way we as youth grew up.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: And Sisla and Capelton was right there with it.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: So the interviewer was not from Jamaica.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: Asked him about that and he kind of say, well, you can't class me with Sisla and Capelton basically saying that when, no matter what, I stick to raster music and I didn't stray from it and this and that.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I just find it's like that was going on Buju and that I just saying that against the backdrop of the fact that Buju I saw a dude from Twins or Twins talking about Buju and his refusal to admit any wrong, to publicly say, well, listen, the cocaine thing it was bad.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I take a chance and I get catch and I repent, but I struggle to find that word I'm looking for.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: But I change my ways.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: I reform a seat differently now.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: I'm human, it's human right.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: But Buju's no, seems to take that hard stand to himself.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: He still you see the video with him when he cooked and he was clearly trying to set up a cook deal.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: But he's just stand up on this platform that Babylon set him up.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: It could be hard for Babylon to set me up, to get a cook, for me to think and taste and say I like that, let me do that, let me make the deal.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: It could be hard to set me up there.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Babylon could set me up in a lot of ways, but that wouldn't be one of the ways.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Right, it means that I like that and he has do that and I just found that to be strange and salute again.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: The album is great, but I don't like it.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I don't like it.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I don't like it.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I don't like the way it is received, I don't like what it does.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: So here's my view of Buju's, one of the greatest dance artists of all time.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: It's quite discomfiting to see.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: I just want to put that up front, right?
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I come here to celebrate the region and I come to celebrate Guyana because clearly we are serious about after what I see there.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: So let me get on to celebrating the region and we had a play, a little song for Guyana again before we move on from this.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Sorry for all the people who don't like the cricket and don't like the CPL only when CPL come here we get a little warm and excited.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: But I want to play for you.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: I want to bought Guyana running mighty spiral.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: Well, they drop a hydrogen bombing PG Lord of Mosie.
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: They drop a hydrogen bombing PG Lord of Mosie.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: Riot in Tong, mama, I had the whole place on fire, from kitty to the waterfront, all that bandung.
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: Flat, flat, flat.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: I ain't care if all a beachy bandung, I ain't care if the whole a book has bandung, but they'll be putting me out my way if they tackle Tiger Bay and bandung me hotel where all them who have been to stay.
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: They lock up over a thousand people.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Well, that was troublesome for policemen in the country to bring unity.
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: But police and all afraid stand up and the watching stores get rid.
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: Walk in the store, take everything and when you don't, set fire to the building.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: But I ain't care if the whole a beachy bandung, I ain't care if all a book has bandung, but they'll be putting me out my way if they tackle Tiger Bay and bandung me hotel, where all them who have been to stay.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: A woman walk in a store on Main Street slippers on chiffy, dirty, petty coat, long time straw hat and she smell in western that.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: But she walk out like a lady high heels, glasses, jewelry, the straw hat she had on wearing before she take match and she burn it inside the store.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: I ain't care if the whole a beachy bandung, I ain't care if all a book has bandung, but they'll be putting me out my way if they tackle Tiger Bay and bandung me hotel where all them who have been to stay.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: And bandung me hotel where all them who have been to stay.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: So look again and congratulations.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: So listen, well, it over the long weekend, but it was a long weekend.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I think this, for some reason, was the longest long weekend of all time.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know what it was about, this particular long weekend trend that really are too much a holiday.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: But happy Republic Day to everybody.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: So Luther, trinidad and Tobago we didn't get a Republic Day gift for what we were looking for, but it's good to be given, you know, I mean, it's a good practice and no girl always give people gift when her birthday comes.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: So that's clearly what the TikiR did.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Some housekeeping matters, right?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I just want to let you know that everybody should get their email.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Who's listening on Google Podcast?
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: So if you've been listening on Google Podcast and that you prefer place to listen, you had to find somewhere else to listen, right?
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I personally find of late there was just a.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: You know you don't like to podcast about.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Podcast them when I watch any numbers for the podcast all the time and if I need numbers low.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: This is the last couple months, right, I said.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: But what is going on?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: I see in the YouTube numbers and things looking normal but the numbers are listeners looking low and one of the things I had noticed was that Apple Podcast listeners was taking over the Google podcasting by far, but there wasn't like more Apple Podcast.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: People are trying to figure out what is going on, like people just lock more from Google or it should seem so rough Not realizing that when I published the episode it wasn't coming up on Google Podcast at all.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I had to email Google Podcast last week because the Denise Plumber episode again, which was important to me, and thank you very much.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Thank you all for all the feedback and all the good words about the Denise Plumber episode.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I had maintained that Denise Plumber is underrated and continue to take in that and share that with friends and family.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Appreciate everybody who spread the word on that Important episode to me right, but when I see I do that episode and late in the week, nothing from Google Podcast, when I check my Google Podcast it wasn't up at all.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: So I suspect that it might be delayed and it wouldn't be getting pulled.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: So if it's not switch over to Spotify, you could find it there by iPhone.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: That will always be good advice.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Iphone 15.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: I'm out.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Check that out.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: You know I mean up a game or YouTube music.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Supposed to be where Google Podcast is going to, right.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I mean Google on YouTube, right, and I know people saying the YouTube experience is not the greatest.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: I don't listen to much podcast on YouTube because you can't switch.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: You know you can't do other things on your phone while you're listening.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: It does save the spot here on.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I much prefer the podcast.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: As a listening kind of man, I like talk radio.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: So for those who don't want to listen on YouTube, just give it time, because they're supposed to make YouTube music available in Trinidad and if YouTube music is available here for free, I hope it means that I will make sure that it's on YouTube music and all you have to do is pull it up on YouTube music.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: You'll be able to close it off and listen in the background everything that you used to do the last time.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: You'll be able to download the episode and full listen when you're ready and all those things, right, and it will push the download on to you once you subscribe and things.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: So share and like and subscribe and do all the things you used to say, right, but just get out of the way.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Hard news in Trinidad.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Hard news.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Long time in talk was some hard news and as crime continues to be the major issue in the country and the greatest prime minute by president of all times, christine Kanglou came out the other day and called for the opposition on them to get the act together.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean sit down and talk to one another and work out all these situations where crime is concerned.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I see that the opposition leader and the prime minister heading into crime talks.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: So Prime Minister Dr Raleigh opens crime talks with Kamala.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: This is from Kamari Fletcher, right it's.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: She say Kamala is not me.
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Three days, three days after Christine Kanglou called for UNT amongst parliamentarians to deal with crime, prime Minister Dr Kid Raleigh has signaled that he will make the first move to initiate such discussions with the opposition.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: During a post cabinet media briefing at the diplomatic center, raleigh said he plans to write opposition leader Kamala Posad Becesa to invite her to sessions to present her plans to tackle the country's high crime rate in her maiden speech.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: You know, you know the speech right you spoke about before.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I just want to take a minute to salute this right now.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Sometimes the things that politicians with you doing is be mainly window dressing and doing it for you know, doing it for the sake of the look and the optics and those types of things.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Right, as I always say about politics, all you watching is wrestling and wrestling.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: While it might have people who's more tell enemies and the script is be written.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: So every now and again they go do attack team, right, they go work together or better reference, or more up to date reference might be reality TV.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Sometimes, only watching reality TV realize it is so much reality.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: You know them, things well scripted and well put together so that they they have story lines that run through them that would be interested and that people will follow.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Right, and reality TV is in new soap opera these days.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: So politics is a lot like that.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: But I do feel as if we have to continue to treat, or start to treat, the situation where crime is concerned in this country.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: That crisis I do, I think we.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: You ever heard a story about the frog.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: You're putting the water and then you put it in cool water.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: But you take the cool water and you put it in the pot to boil and when you put it to boil, the frog is died slowly.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: But if you, if you, if you truly frog in boiling water.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: He's jump out one time.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: They say that not true, right, if you check snow something they said I's not true.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: The frog will jump out if the water get hot, right.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: But immoral of the story is that when you're slowly going through temperature increases, it could be more difficult for you to detect that things have changed and what you're doing is adjust, slowly and gradually adjusting to a new normal all the time until it kill you, right?
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I feel like that is where we are collectively in trend at, because we still in a position where crime is rampant it had no other way to put it at this point in time is rampant, is random, is uncontrollable.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, we might still take comfort, also fall sensor comfort, any fact that crime might be limited to gang related activity and those types of things.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: But I remember the days when they used to say Boojo on themselves.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: They say when Boojo on them are show sneakers getting teeth and click store getting broken into in song.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: There's no clear pattern as the words happened to crime.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: These days, people just getting gondong, police making statements.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Last week, a man spray up a house and shoot up a whole bunch of people trying to.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they're sending a message.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Alexander talking about it on what they call his show beyond the tape, and Ian Allen talking about he's still have a show.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Ian Allen talking about the crime watch on everybody just in this pot that boiling slowly and we, we, we, we adjusted to the new temperature all the time because I don't know about you, but the headlines do affect me very much anymore.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've been open, right when I see I just use myself as an example, right.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: But when I see four people get shoot up and seven people four people get killed and seven people or three other additional people shot and a gunman just shoot up the place and run off any bush and thing, I started to not interpret that as real people.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: That's sorry to be crude, right, and, of course, with all due respect to the families of people who affected by crime, it don't feel like it's real people, don't feel like it's a real situation or a real community.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: It look like the news you remember it is small and it's a what's here and I just have Beirut and people killing.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I know Beirut is Beirut and something like thing to drink for me is Beirut song like thing for the boy, so I not paying attention to his at all.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I it does not.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: It does not resonate the same as it would have 10, 15, 20 years ago.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: When you see a crime like this, the whole nation would have been a pro now.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Granted, I deliberately stay away from crime as a topic because if I was talking about crime every, if I just stuck when I first started this podcast right, for those of you all who knew I used to take where, visit biggest stories in the week and talk about those until I realized it's about three, four months while I talk about this crime and then I realized but wait, I could get depressed trying to do this because I started to know not want to talk about episode canal for me to talk about it.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I had a read up on it.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Final was a situation, final names of the people.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: I not put myself through that again, but we certainly in a situation locally here where the water boiling and we staying calm because if anything like me and that shoot up happen is not I don't feel sorry for the people, but it does seem like it could happen to you and I don't feel nobody will come and shoot up my house and I'm kind of thing.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I saw slow my boy Jada.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: So he said nothing.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Last week with a man named dust boss, right, but that's boss, you go on tiktok, you'll find that's both.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: That's both very funny.
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: On tiktok and them to make a every Friday, that God said he go pop something saying ah boy, friday morning, all who, I'm a little dust from all your coming, coming and bringing my little dust.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Not all the mother come and look for you.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Now I in my naive self I feel like a joke because I think everybody who in front of cameras like me and come to make joke, I see a live Jade said me with them.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: That's both talking to two other men openly about and I know all the killing coconut vendor, all your thing, and the man saying but how you mean he was in a life, he look for that and I think what is happening here, what is going on I see in the status, are parallel where rappers in Atlanta in particular being taken to court and had a face, the courts for lyrics in the songs that related to crimes, that they go and look for young tongue and gonna look for these fellas and see where it is.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: They go into lyrics in their music being used against them in court for crimes that exist.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: All the, anything they do on social media is monitored.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: You get me.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: But we have men who could come here and say openly, yeah, the coconut man was involved and and and they, they, they freak, and I mean nothing being done about them, things that and at least there's no outcome.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: May know what being done if it being investigated, but we see no, seen any outcome.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: We not seen any change.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: We see in our atrenda that we're the criminal free to go and talk about that on an open forum because they know nothing can go up into them.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: And we reach a point now where we hear stories.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: I didn't know him, but I hear stories about boroughs and flying squad and them kind of thing.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: We see stories of bad policemen all three years up to the way.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Johnny Abraham and him Alexander is one of them.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: Bad police where everybody knows no, no, no, nonsense, let me.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Let me.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Let me take out of the equation that Alexander could be corrupt or bought in any way.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Right, let me say he's the baddest police, you tough, because he all day, he visible, he being and strong, he respected among lawmakers, politician and the people who just watching TV, entertainers, criminals, everybody respect and know the name, alexander, know the face, that's a big boy.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: Any police, when Alexander show up, any police sports day, any match passes, are superstar.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: He on TV complain about crime, just like me on the podcast, is the baddest police we have.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: And he watching them situation, I'm saying look at this, look at, look at.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: So you, you, the police, who we will be, who we charging with the responsibility and expecting to not just what is the protect and serve, not just do that, but also to we looking at you to make not just preventative measures to avoid crimes like these, but to respond to these things with force.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: We need you when forces needed you complaining on TV, just like we do the water boiling.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: The water is boiling and we not jumping out and the jump out had a coming a few ways.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Is either we jump out?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: For me, my jump out could come from jumping out.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like a visa.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: I will see.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: They could teach them.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: It's a sea anywhere else.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: We could go and teach a sea somewhere else and I could do this.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I could still record and take it.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: I go watch the news and I record and think about I not going through this.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: You see this here.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: This is not it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: This can be what a society is and what it come to, where criminals in charge and we not in charge jump out.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: Could also come any form of a serious response to this thing?
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Because we still in a state where we comfortable with a police arrest that keeps somebody in remand forever and a lawyer could say delay, delay, delay, delay.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: We got demand, can pay and you remain, remain in remand at taxpayers expense for years and then come on a trial that years later and then they find evidence collecting a sloppy way.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: There's that and then you could sue the state now and get back a piece of money.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: You go in jail.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: You have phone them iPhone 15 already.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I still I trying to see if the upgrade, what to do, find my little dongle longer to put together to buy a new phone and then men have phone calling shots on people from inside the jail and we just accepting this as a society.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: We don't want to.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: We watching people who responding and solving their own problems and getting their own justice with brute force, and we Our response is still docile.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Let me put it like that right?
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I saw who was it.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: I can't remember the name now, but I think it was Rudal Munilal, was it?
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: Who was talking about the fact that an Alexander said it himself where if police had shot up them people in that community, the country was going to stop.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: Remember, the country stopped a few times later.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: The country stopped a few times.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Where people come out in the road, this is the community now, not necessarily the criminal, the community responding a big way.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Block roads, block roads in the capital.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Man can't go to work, man have to turn back right and, according to Munilal and Alexander as well, things like this happen and then there's no response from the community, the community remain quiet.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I want to say that a part of the reason there's no response is likely due to the fact that I would have feel like, if I put myself out there and I put my face out there to protest, that there's no protection for me when they come from my family.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: There's no protection, there's no recourse.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: So I might just pat down.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Whereas if the police do that, who you charge with the responsibility of protecting us, and they kill somebody, let me say I assume it's unjust and I go out there and protest.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think police come in to just reprisal killing my whole father.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: They're probably not going to happen, right, but I just put in that audio to say that the water is boiling and we just we just send down any water, right?
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: The temperature rising and we get accustomed to the new temperature and jumping out is important, whether we jump out by giving the state the rights to move on people with brute force and get rid of people or change the way they operate, or let me start the exit.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Gaena oil, gaena oil.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: It flies to about 45 minutes.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I'll let you keep me here.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I go suffer.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: Now I go in a country where the team does win on them.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: So one more thing on that crime situation that I did, like that Again I say in order to say I wish the best to the opposition leader and the prime minister, whether it's window dressing or whatever.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I wish the best on the crime talks and I'm hoping I mean I am naively hoping that it goes somewhere and something come out of it so that the both governments and opposition could, could could say that I affected by this and the same way, my supporters affected in this.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: And he said maybe we empower the police and the army and them kind of thing to move, to get some people to let me feel a P now this thing is Philippine, or, let me not, qatar, what's the next people named?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: We, singapore, this thing where criminals must be must be the ones who are the jump out, and we don't have to worry about jumping out, right?
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: But there's an article that I saw from any guardian as well, titled reconsider diverting customers to ATMs Is an important call that I want to highlight.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: Opposition leader Kamala Persat Becces urgently banking community to reconsider having the public, as well as micro and small business operators, forcibly use ATM machines for financial deposits.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: In a news release on Friday, persat Becces said recently Local commercial banks have lately been directing many transactions to ATMs and, while this might be standard practice for the parts of the world, in TNT, under the current crime, so this process leaves clients vulnerable to brutal criminals, quoted as saying here since the, since they have financial limits on each deposit transaction, a single customer could spend several minutes at the ATM machine, leading to long lines that quickly grow, leaving bank customers standing on the street with cash on their person for extended periods of time, according to leader Kamala.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Opposition leader Kamala Persat Becces.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Let me add to that right A lot of times if I don't want to deal with the lines and I work it in a day.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: The best time for me to go and do this.
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Some of these deposits would be at night, where they have the drop boxes, not just the ATM, where you could go and unlock the drop box and put it in right.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Same scenario If I go into a drop box at night, it is known that I have cash on me, suppose I follow the believe in a.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: We live in a place dark.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: She noted that the situation of bank customers standing on the street with cash occurs in an environment where several customers have been assaulted and robbed, even killed, after patronizing banks at all levels.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: But don't forget, kamala, that the banks are offering a whopping.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: When was $75,?
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: There was a $75 reward.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: If you report that bank workers are setting up, people, she recalled, only a few weeks ago, on duty of security officer was murdered while at the ATM in Cunupio.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: Besides, I also pointed out that there have been other instances of armed security guards being ambushed and attacked while transferring money.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Another thing to pay attention to again.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: What I try to do is use the drive through ATMs as much as possible.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not taking out all the positive no big set of money, but the issue is that the criminal may not know this.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: We talk about this the other day with the woman who they rush and they ain't getting no money from her at all.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I still in the same predicament if they're running to me whether I have money or not.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: So I want to applaud the call from Kamala Besad Biseso to ask the banks again.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: I strongly recommend that the Bankers Association critically review the diversion of these deposit transactions and ATMs towards creating the safest setting for its clients.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Small business women and men are much more defenseless than armed security officers.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: In the current atmosphere of rampant lawlessness, especially under a government that has all but given up on addressing the violent crime, you must take a little dig at the opposition.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: Right, kamala's from Kainaw, kamala Kainaw, he's just crazy.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: He makes such a good call, but he must take a swing at him.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Alright, but this is an important call and one that I thought I should highlight as well, because it does put us at a disadvantage and citizens at large, but particularly business people.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: It shows you how these politicians could respond to their base when needed.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Right, because I am sure that internal pressure from her supporters could call for her to make a call like this against the banks.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, politicians don't really say much about the banks, but it's a topic of the UNC.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I saw something very interesting, right, the UNC is going down a road here.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: I'm at the fuck with that.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be playing music too.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: I forget about the music part of this.
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: One thing with all that, right?
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Well then, I also make a man feel bad Every time I post an episode and I don't say anything in the episode, but I play music for the whole episode.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Everybody is telling me.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Everybody is telling me, boy, that's the best episode they ever do.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: So what I try to tell me is Hush.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: I try to say Hush should only settle, all talk and play music.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: But let me Hush, or you all talk and play music, right?
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: A part of this episode was I can't remember how I came up with the idea during the course of the week, right, but I was walking down memory lane and going through some of these songs that came out of Jamaica in particular, that shape our YouTube.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean A part of as much as we love Soka and we love Calypso and them thing, and that is what I always stick to.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: For a long time now I've been saying I'll go back to some songs from Jamaica, some dancehall.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: This is not dancehall and this is not reggae.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: This is what we used to call dub.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: And you see, in these times, where times are the man trying to make ends meet and criminal trying to take with a little bit that we have, so what do you remember?
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: I can't take this country.
• 45:27
  Speaker 7: What we living.
• 45:28
  Speaker 7: Look for much money.
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: We have beer, beer, chicken, rice and flour, and cornmeal is a sin.
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: What buy a meal can make you buy the thing Can't even get sugar, no food or some sweetening.
• 45:38
  Speaker 7: As soon as Jamaica will live in a parade, oh, lord of mercy, I have to sing.
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: Oh no, help me.
• 45:44
  Speaker 7: No, I used to turn cornmeal and give me jack, but that was long before it raised.
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: See a boy, I can't turn cornmeal, no more am I am Cause things get hard.
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: Oh lord, we said nowadays rice ganobo, lord, chicking ganobo, flour.
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: It's done out of space.
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: We love parade.
• 46:14
  Speaker 7: Come again one more time.
• 46:17
  Speaker 7: Granny, stop harrowing out my name.
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: Granny, for you call it my name.
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: it's been Granny, for we have called my name for Me, so let me out, I'm gonna live with mama.
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: And who said granny, no, miserable, if you grow with your granny, you eat on granny too.
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: And who said granny, don't love the cousin Famic.
• 46:38
  Speaker 7: Granny, magic cost me everything, son, I always tell you you can look before you leave your camp, land can and a piece of a reap.
• 46:44
  Speaker 7: You do a study journey, then how you'll be rich.
• 46:46
  Speaker 7: Take off the broom, carry yard or sweep.
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: Look by your bed, you know.
• 46:50
  Speaker 7: Spread it up with your sheet.
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: Me tell you feed the son, I'll know you're not doing it.
• 46:54
  Speaker 7: Turn some cornmeal, let me get it for you.
• 46:56
  Speaker 7: I suppose I'm gonna have cash me last, me first eat, granny, stop harrowing out my name.
• 47:01
  Speaker 7: Granny for you.
• 47:03
  Speaker 7: Call it my name.
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: It's been Granny why you have called me for Me, so let me out.
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna live with mama.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: And let me tell you something I just couldn't play that without playing this right.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: This also had a play right.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: Just follow the friend.
• 47:19
  Speaker 7: Sir, I want to tell you I get mad, mad.
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I don't know Love.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: Love Can't take it no more.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Give me money, woman, you'll give me the food.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Love Can't take it no more.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: Give me money, woman, you'll give me After half.
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: I take all the girl with son.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Love of a man.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: They give the phone.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: They will go back and bring a tiger to bless her.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: She got left with a child of one and a half long.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Such a far girl I've been couldn't get none.
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: When they find a man to save me, I'll be paid up.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Love, I can't use it, but I know it's a time that I'm going back and go and you get started.
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: Love Can't take it no more.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Give me money, woman, you'll give me before.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: Love Can't take it no more.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: Give me money, woman, you'll give me before.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: Now you're golden age and you're golden age at double.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: I'm going to play some dub in this episode.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Man, I run from the dub in the listen On the topic.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I can't not pass the advices, right.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: So this thing on Instagram, that's quite um I don't have to call it alarming strange this.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what you're looking for, but it went around social media and many, many people send this to me as soon as they see it, which I've taken that to mean.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Only one meter.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Talk about it, right, but I'm not sure what.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Only exactly one meter say, right.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: What I'm going to play for you here is the voice of a gentleman by the name of Muti X right, who start off as being Muti, and if you know the name Muti, we can talk a little bit about what the name Muti means to Trinidad in a minute, right?
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: But it's Muti spelled with a X, and on social media he was known as Muti with the X, so it's M-O-U-T-T-X-T.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Muti with the X, and then he ended up just being Muti X right.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Now, I don't know.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've never been the most politically correct person, so I struggle to find words sometimes.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: I don't want to make it seem like I'm making no joke, or nobody.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: But Muti have some kind of um, what is called a different ability or I don't know.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I hope, I don't know if I say any right thing.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I know it's not mental, but they have some kind of physical.
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: A challenge?
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure it is, you know.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: I mean he have some fingers a little stiff, you have a little stiff walk.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: I don't know why it's, cause I think he talked about it like an extreme form of a rightist, but I can't remember exactly what words he used.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: But if you know Muti with the X, you know what I'm talking about.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Right, and I saw strange enough, as if anything should be strange in this country.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: I saw Muti with the X on a UNC political platform and a purple jersey.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Nonetheless, I don't know if anybody tell Muti the jersey like a yellow, is he code?
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Like he didn't find out yellow is he code?
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: But it might be hard for him to change quick too.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure if that is part of the reason.
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: But Muti with the X or he doesn't listen to him on the political platform.
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: We're here for people who don't have no job.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: Food prices.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: So it was a little clip, right, it didn't get into exactly what he talked about, but he was on the political platform and you know well, you know the political platform is go right anytime you show up.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Once you show up and you say something, people will clap and go with it.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: But I do find it strange, I do find it passing strange.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Now somebody in this country by the name of Muti could be on a political platform complaining about jobs and food prices.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: Now, this is where I just know once again to trouble, and I always remember Ian Allen being on a TV station and talking about a certain family and their business and no longer being able to be a nice station.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Right, they're being fired, basically, right.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: But I just wanted to take a moment to Google some names for me, right?
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Because Muti not like Thomas and Shepard and these things where everybody names so and we don't know if it's family and people ask me were you related to the Shepard and them, down in point?
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: And I said me, and no, you gotta ask my mother and think Muti is not one of those names.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: And Trinidad and Tobago if your name is Muti, you're related to all the Mutis and you know your family, right, let me know, let me know, pretend, right?
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: I just wanted to appreciate the whole things that companies owned by people with the name Muti, right, I just wanted to appreciate it.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: There's somebody by the name of Victor Muti, so look at me, I'll know how I feel about the 1% already.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: I feel we should all aspire to achieve what they have achieved.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I think it's within all of us to achieve what the 1% has achieved and I always come in and say that the 1% is not a fixture.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: It's at a time, cupolani and there was 1% and dilemma and there was 1%, and they might be 4, 5, 6, 7, but they ain't one.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: But Muti is certainly one of the names out up there.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: So when I look up Victor Muti or I look up Muti group of companies, I see names, little companies, small companies called Vemco Agastini.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: I see Prestige Holdings, a little company by the name of Prestige Holdings that holds franchises for Starbucks, kfc, pizza Hut, tgi Fridays, subway.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: I'm going to click on Pistri.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I wonder if I'll get any information about Prestige Holdings.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Maybe they might have it here, am I wrong?
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make sure I come in from good sources.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I see logos here like KFC, pizza Hut, fridays Subway and Starbucks when I see it in them places.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: Should I look at Vemco and what products they carry?
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Vemco is a distributor, right?
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Does Vemco do manufacturing?
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but it's a lot like Swiss.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: Keri Gold, purina, quaker, otis, maya, pepperidge Farm, dole, tropicana, prego I mean it has the swans listen, the list goes on and on and on and on and on.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Don Super Cow Milk Long list.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Should I click on another one?
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: What Agastini does?
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: Do they have a little company in Agastini's country?
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: What other fellows in them is do what is?
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Do Interiors?
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: They do distribution, fmcg.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: Let me click on FMCG and see what it has on Agastini.
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: This might be good research for me to do.
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: I should know these things often.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: So when you look at these size of these companies, right, and what they do and what they mean to the country and how much.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: Christian Muti Again, I'm assuming.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: I could probably be wrong, but I would think that this Muti X is probably a part of this family.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: So when he on a political platform talking about food prices and salaries and so on, and he related to one of the countries that have the biggest impact on retail in the country and what easily be one of the largest private sector employers in the country, and I'm not sure how it resonates.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: But again, the political platform is a funny place.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: The political platform is a funny place.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: There's a place where there's not a whole lot of background.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: It's about likability and UNC definitely going for play on likability here and they definitely have a target audience and they're looking at this group of youths now who sees these social media stars or these zesses, these zessal movement or the Trinity movement as they're.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say I don't want to say idol, but they like them, they follow them and the messages that come from these guys going to have more impact than the messages that come from a Kamlo Pesad and the old Almoni Lal or Tim Goopi Singh.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: So they're tapping into a certain demographic here and again we see in the early moves in the long game for election 2025.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: But, muti, maybe find out different other things to talk about, right?
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: There's so many issues in this country.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: You could certainly pick others.
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: Don't try to talk about the plight of poor people.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: But again, you take it, you can beat it.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: It's hard to challenge them.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Now should I get back into the xenophobic nature of this country, where we don't want certain people to represent.
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: We can hear from here we like them Christmas time to play a little music, a little pyrong and things, but you know what I mean.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: We really don't like them when it comes to the foreign representation.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: I think that is also what Jamaican thing you know, because Jamaican music is such a big part of our culture.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: But we're very, we're very close when it comes to our approach to what you want to call it like national pride, or I'm sure you have to call it national pride to be honest, or what it is.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: But this pageant thing started get even more legs than it had last week.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: I was saying I talk about that thing a little bit last week or when was that week before, whenever I spoke about it and the story had really just come out.
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: I just saw the story and talk about that a little bit, but I didn't know that this thing would have gone for so far.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: I didn't know Jack Warner was a judge.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: I think that that is.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: That is epic Jack Warner.
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: No, I want to say that, listen Jack, 150 years old and he's judging beauty pageants In a beauty pageant.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: You have to watch the beauty.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: Jack Warner must be Kessie.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: He Kessie so well.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: At this age he is exciting to be that great.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: He also had to try and listen to the answers that the contestants give Jack Warner can hear.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Let me be realistic about this thing.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, come on.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Well, you really feel Jack Warner hearing is up there?
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: I doubt it, I doubt it.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: I doubt it, but Jack Warner was listed as one of the judges in this tournament, in this, in this pageant.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: You can't go wrong in trend out in the way.
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: Trend out is a very, very entertaining place, regardless of where.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: So let me just go to our article from the Guardian, right, because, surprisingly, jack Warner make a statement about this.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know who contact Jack Warner to be a judge in this and I don't know how they get here to say, yes, he really had nothing to do any day coming to this man board.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: He tried to get back in political thing and in local government election.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: He must be finding enough attention.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: So, from the dollar to the Guardian, jack Warner, one of the judges in the in the 2020 Miss Grand International Competition, admits he had, and still has, reservations about a foreigner representing this country on an international stage.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: Warner's comments followed the public outcry that that country's sorry.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: The public outcry that continues following the pageant organizers decision to stick with the controversial decision of Meledin Materano as the winner of the competition.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Warner said he had articulated his reservations to his fellow judges over selecting a foreigner during Sunday's final.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: However, he said he is standing by the decision.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: As a member of the judging panel, I do not believe that a foreigner could represent the country, but I was part of a team and I subscribed to what they agree upon.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: It is what it is, warner said.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Asked about the public outcry over the decision, warner said there's good and bad.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: It's good and bad in what is being said, but preferred not to go into it any further.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: What is?
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: He can remember he was a judge.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: They ask Jack Warner, or if again, jack Warner.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: When them colleagues ask people this, he say um, beat the pageant, but, but, but, but beat the pageant.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: Who beat the pageant Trump?
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: He had no idea that he was a part of this.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, meanwhile, another judge said yesterday this another judge yesterday.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: They spelled rumors which claim Materano was favored by some members of the panel.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: This is totally false.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: The pageants organizers stolen productions limited right, stolen productions limited is the name of these people.
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Now, I don't know if you ever had a business idea right, or if you ever registered a business or you had something that you wanted to do, or or, in this, in this era, micro entrepreneurship.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: You know, you, you, you set up your little, your little side hustles, make a little cake, wherever it is.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: You do one sale, you buy and sell.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: You know how much effort goes into naming your company.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: You know when you, when, when, when, in that initial phase of startup, you're in selling nothing yet, but you're trying to, you're trying to find a name for your business and your brand and you're trying to get your logo developed and do what you know, do, do, put yourself out there.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: You think of what that feels like and when you, when you, when you settle on a name, you know what I mean.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Just like I was talking about Prestige, when they come up with Vemco, they would have several different ideas as to what they will call their company, and then they do this one and the one that you chose.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: You think it will.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: It inspires you, it move you, it make you feel good about the business.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: It's any right message to your, to your customers, is something that you will sit on for years.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about cashier as being one of the biggest brand names, built from scratch in Trinidad and Tobago, because from a little closed store in the drag to moving onto Frederick street and building from that standpoint where cashier is now a national brand, anybody who know cashier know where it is and thing.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: You put so much thought and effort into that name.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: I want to know what was your intention when you come up with a name stolen production limited what about that?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Make you feel good and say you know this is something that we should really do.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: I really interested in getting this thing done.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: I would love to know.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: I went on the Instagram page, right, and I'll tell you that they deleted.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: They had the listing of all the judges for the competition as individual posts, but it looked like they delete that.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: They turn it up on the stolen production people know so they slowly but surely starting to clean up the image, but I don't know what's a name like stolen production limited.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I know how much cleaning up you could really do, but With the judges selecting a foreigner to represent her in that interview.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: The stories coming out on the night had said that people in the crowd were upset.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: They were upset by how late the program had started, how the program was flowing and then, of course, with Milady that came out to be that was a big issue on the night because apparently the first question she was asked she asked for, she said, hey, what to do for Milady, bring her translator, bring her translator, you know.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, bring somebody who could convert it.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on, we're in a pageant here, we need translators.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: Those are normal things we see in pageants all the time.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Now, usually we would see that in a final right, because the final is being hosted in a country where the language is not the same of all the contestants, right?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: So if it's within the states and you have somebody from the Czech Republic, czech Miss, czech Republic, will come up with a translator to break down this thing and break down the question and them kind of thing, right?
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure of any example I could find where the local contestants going up need a translator in the local domestic language that the home country talking, right?
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: That would be a little bit odd.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: So people apparently were upset on the night and basically saying that hey, what is going on here?
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: How is she being selected on them thing?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: But she eventually got through the answers to the questions.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: She apparently answered them in English eventually after some, after some coaxing, you know it's easy to get a question in English.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Change the question to Spanish in your mind, frame your answer in Spanish right, then change back the answer in English before you say that could slow your dog down, it could be easy and the pageants have a way, when they ask you that question on your spot and you're nervous, it's done under some pressure already to come up with a good answer at that point in time.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: So it's like come on, all you killing woman.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: What is happening?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: So we are at this point now where we have the Venice Waylon Ms Venizuela, trinidad, ms Trinidad and Tobago Ms Grand International pageant coming out and unfortunately the woman says she gained debt threats.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Who is threatening me, lady?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Why are they doing this?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know when, since we care about pageants so much, you know, but Venizuela and beauty queen gets debt threats Me.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Lady Matarano, the Venizuela national who won her beauty contest to represent Trinidad and Tobago, the Ms Grand International pageant has been receiving debt threats.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: The matter has been reported to the police.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: A source close to the beauty queen confirmed yesterday.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: It is the latest development in what has been a week of online hate level against the beauty queen.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: A victory in last Sunday's Ms Grand TNT pageant caused an uproar, with many people taken to social media to question her eligibility and criticize the judge's decisions.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: In the last days following the pageant, the franchise holder, mr and Mrs Grand the franchise holders Sherry Parsons, who have also been trolled on social media, stated categorically that it's only a nine-year-old businesswoman who operates her own registered company met all the criteria required by the local body.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Late last week, matarano called for entity hate and negativity, but the attacks have exemplified Get this so-and-so out of here or dead.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Lord Posted one comment below a video reel featuring Matarano which was upload.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Why are they at a trending one?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: This is not nice.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Why were they at that going a little bit too far?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Because, again, I would like it to be so good to hear from past Ms Trinidad and Tobago's, whether it's from Ms Will, ms Universe, wherever the pageants and the competition, whether it's the one where the strong thing you know in terms of strong people's godfuckin' pageants.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: Who is nice pageant, who is strong, and you're going to oppose something?
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: I would like to hear any sports person who represents Trinidad and Tobago, any musician or artist who represents Trinidad and Tobago, anybody in any international competition.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: I want to hear how much support you all got from these very social media and armchair people who complain about me.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: Lady, when we have artists, sportsmen, journalists, we have every profession in the world going up to represent Trinidad and Tobago all over the world.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: And it's crickets.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: It's crickets, just like the CPL cricket.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: We don't care.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: We don't know who's the lady, we don't know who represents Trinidad, we don't know who.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: Or you don't know what's the name of the competition.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: We only like people after they win, only know how.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: About that?
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about that.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Get used to that, because we just only support people when they win.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: We don't know none of these people.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: We don't know nobody who's representing Trinidad and Tobago.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: But all of a sudden they pick up Venezuela.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: No one to represent Trinidad and Tobago, and the place is not all crying or parol.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: You had to like him, he's nice.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: So only threatening me, lady now, and listen as much as I want to defend these people for this election and the bottom line for me is that I okay, I'll be honest with you, I don't care.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: People don't want to say that because people want to spend the two minutes on social media, the only two minutes out of their whole life where they care about our pageants is when they hear this woman win the ticket.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: But I hear to say I don't care Me, don't know who this represent Trinidad and no pageant.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know when you see, when we reach, when we started reach top 10, that when I just started to put on pageant I don't watch no pageant, as a matter of fact, full disclosure, I went when they, when I was sleeping.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: I can't stay up that early now, sleeping like hell.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: I was sleeping on my grandmother.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Better when my mother wake me up and say Grandmother's, wake me up and say, corey, when we win this universe, I started crying one time, me here.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: What when they say me, and no question, she answer me.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: And no, how the gong look, I don't know how the bad suit look.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I find out all them thing after.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: So could we all admit first please, before we get into this any deeper, so we care not about no pageant.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: Let us be honest, we care not, we don't care.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: You see all them wicked people who walk out of the thing in movie tongue when it was happening.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: So all the cares not night, all always contested family, they were.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: They walk out when they rise all their family lost.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Who is go pageant?
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: In this country Everybody's just go to support their family.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: If you have a sister or your friend or a girl or whoever going any pageant died.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: The only people who is in that crowd, nobody else wasn't there, they were.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: They walk out early.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: When I realized me lady went in.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: So, as I saying, they delete the judges from the social media platform, right, but if my memory serves me, right, one of the judges was Jack Warner.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: Jack Warner is the only judge who's a thousand something years old.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Everybody else was young.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: One is the young Chin, who's son of son of Derek Chin, who's the owner die Chin enterprises or that Chin enterprises movie talk.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: One of them was a beauty influencer.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: We just call them them.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: We call social media influencer by the name of mix.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: So if anybody has a judge beauty, I suppose she would be a good person to judge beauty.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: She on social media I think she have like lines of waste lamenting.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: You know, you know.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: You know they have a.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: They have a.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: They have a playbook for social media influencers, right, a part of the playbook is that you have some products selling for either your face or your body or to rub on your belly and make your fat disappear, or you have a we've called them, we call them thing, we waste trainer.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: You have a waste trainer.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: You have some tight something selling.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean you have is go by one of these people who's roll out a belly with a piece of bamboo.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean To make a belly flat and mix have.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: All of the above makes our endorsement for every one of them.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: People like well, you know, I mean she's very, very busy.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: I mean she's good, she looked good to me and everything and she's pretty popular influence.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: So when you look up, but I'll tell you something thousand followers, so good, good judge for a panel, young direction, I mean it's some of our business man.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: You know what nice one, right, so you could judge our pageant, jack, I guess.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: I guess, think of this, right, I like the little podcast thing.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: I like, you know, I mean building a little profile and them kind of thing.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: So if somebody called me to judge our pageant, I feel like it would be a good little look for me for the podcast.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: I could grow my viewers and think, grow my listeners.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: But when I see the letterhead and say, hi Corish, how about we think and we love your podcast and we'd like it to be a judge on the signed stolen productions limiters, I ain't so sure.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: But when they send Jack down on an unanswered stolen productions, this look right at home.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Right at home, I'll be there.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Just tell me where to be, just tell me time and place.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Where it is virtual, isn't personal.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: Where's the situation?
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: So the pageant went on.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: The lady gets selected.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: We forget.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: It had a Miss Grandman too, but they have a Miss Grandman.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: He went, and one of the funniest things I've seen going around right, is that they are a PR run.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: They are a PR run because now, if you ask me what I think, is that when I saw Miss Grand Miss Grand is not a very recognized competition, it is from Malaysia, I believe this year hosting in Vietnam and they trying to build the name for their tournament.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: So when I went on their website, what we going through here is not uncommon, right?
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Miss Japan Black Lector, miss Ireland Indian.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: They're looking like they're looking for controversial picks and that will get them to rise to the top of the pageant world very quickly.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: I think especially where, because nobody okay about Miss Universe and Miss World until they win.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: If everybody else is like we, we don't care about that until we get a winner.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: You know that does not hold what it held when it was Penny and Wendy and Gisela run.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Let me not pretend that these pageants hold the same place in our hearts.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: They don't.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: So I think that a part of the selection process is to make sure you have a controversial pick.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Make the thing big, because when Miss Grand come out next year, people will know about the name of the tournament, what do you call it?
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: The competition, the pageant, right, people will know about it at their point in time.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: And let me tell you something Next year, next year, all they look all fit.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to have more words.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: You see, next year, miss Grand International, go, be a man, they go, they go.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Just do control, I get them right.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: Do the most controversial thing you could do and bigger up your things so that it grow fast.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: Right, which it has done, because before last nobody didn't know is no Miss Grand International and nobody didn't care.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: But all of a sudden everybody care Now express again Melody and misguided xenophobia.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: This is the run that the pageant holders seem to be going on.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: They seem to be going on your run, that everybody who vexed with that of Venezuela, and I think is a normal thing to see a outcry like this.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: It would be expected.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: If I have a pageant and I select somebody like this, I feel I could put together the Sampiar campaign in advance.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: That says why we should not be upset about this and, if I know, we plan up the thing to put a Venezuelan there.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: I feel a plan and a better PR campaign than these people.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: Right, I'll explain.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: But the article says to some extent we have always been Venezuelan, particularly when it comes to historical moments, cultural festivals and influences in the Spanish language on places and names throughout TNT.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: Yet, largely because of mass migration, I was xenophobia towards Venezuelan nationals from time to time.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: Most recently, the decision to award Venezuelan citizen Melody Matarano the title of Miss Grand TNT raised many eyebrows on the basis that Matarano could not truly represent his country on an international stage because she was a non-national.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: Firstly, non-native Trinidadians have always represented us, particularly in sports.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: Chris Birchell, one of the midfielders who helped us qualify for our first FIFA World Cup in 2006, was born and attended high school in England.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: He was eligible to play for the Soco Warriors because of his Trinidadian mother.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: In 2015, canadian born gymnast Marisa Dick these people from Stolen Productions read the news and think why they take the most controversial thing.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: Marisa Dick wasn't supposed to represent nowhere Tema Williams, was he put.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Anyway, in 2015, canadian born gymnast Marisa Dick acquired dual citizenship based on her mother's Trinidadian passport To compete in 2016,.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: These people really is named Stolen.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: Look at the example they use and they're looking for anything stolen.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: And while a Venezuelan born person representing TNT at a beauty pageant may be new, for other parts of the world, such as Chile, portugal, italy and Italy, Venezuelan born women representing other countries is fairly typical today.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: Did he just say that Venezuelan born women representing other countries is fairly typical?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: Public outrage against Matarano representing TNT, then, may just be downed because she's a non-native, but specifically because she's a Venezuelan.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: In this case, unlike a team of Olympic athletes or footballers, a Venezuelan won an individual competition ahead of two Trinidadians.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: On some level, matarano's win might have materialized on the basis of xenophobia, that migrants are a threat to our jobs.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Matarano is now not only the face of TNT when she travels to Vietnam for the Miss Grand International competition, her face also serves as a standing for the entire Venezuelan population.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: In TNT, we now have a specific target to channel our xenophobia.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: These xenophobia has misguided, since I would argue that Venezuela has deeply influenced movements in our national history, culture and language.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: History of pre-Columbian Trinidad would argue that some of our earliest settlers came from Venezuela.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Much later, during the 19th century, venezuelan farmers would experience in cacao cultivation, which encouraged a settling trend that does give rise to the name Coco Payols, to improve agro-economical production.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: Alright, they went on and on about this, about Maruga and the basis of Venezuela here.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: So it was a whole thing about Parang and where music comes from and all the fact that we have close ties with Venezuela.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: This is written by Jarell Dematas, a PhD candidate and teaching associate in the Department of English at the University of Massachusetts.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: So salute the express for bringing out middle of the road type.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say defense, necessarily, but a different viewpoint of this right.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: This is why I was talking about in terms of non-nationals representing Trinidad.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: It's not uncommon for that to happen in sports and in business and so on.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: We must always remember that our anthem is written by a guy named Zood, a guy called Pat Kestani.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: Well, one of the judges father is a Guyanese man named Derek Chin, the biggest band on the road, which includes tribe lost, tribe hearts rogue, who are getting inside their his own back Guyanese man.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: So the idea of non-nationals is really a farce.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: I think the way this was done and the way it being handled by the organizers is poor.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: The name of the organization stolen productions does not help.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: It could have been managed much better to get the support of Trinidadians, even though people there's a percentage of people who are always upset by this.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: But we could, she could have gotten the support if they did this, if they managed this better and more transparently and also if they were prepared to talk about it in a way that makes sense.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: So I was listening to Red96.7 this week and the organizers on the station.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Now this is the PR person.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: I didn't get the name of the person who represented them, but boy, let me tell you something.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: He did a horrible job.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Number one.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: He came on the interview on the defensive.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: I think the interviewers on Red96.7 weren't prepared either, as there's a lot of times a case with interviews and urban radio in Trinidad, these fellows in them have been in studio liming and playing music and talking and then they get interview and every single thing they need to know about the person in front of them they have to ask them.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: They don't know.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: No research, no set of background, they don't have a clue and social media is the most of the research, right?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: So the questions come from the most hot topics on social media.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: We see it all the time.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: But what's odd is that in what I would call a softballing of you, nobody asking them any hard questions, they men butchered completely and I wish I had recorded it because them fellows on them basically the Trinidadian fellow who is running the pageants or the PR personally the pageant he starts off on the offense by saying wait before we get into this interview.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: I just want to let everybody know that the words of our anthem say Forge from the love of liberty in the fires of hope and prayer, with boundless faith in our destiny, absolutely declare Side by side.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: We start.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: And this man went into the anthem and I will tell you something.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: Right, that man busts in the anthem about Midway through, about Midway through the anthem.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: He couldn't remember none of the lyrics.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: And I think he's Martin Luther King.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Who do you think you are talking to, michael?
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: What kind of speech you making?
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares about no pageant.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: You taking on this because of social media commenters, who are guaranteed comment on this and move on with their lives immediately, because nobody cares about pageant, especially misgrand international.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares about that.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: Even if this girl go there and win, nobody is going to care any more than they cared before.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: It does not matter, inconsequential, right.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: But you going in there to make this thing again.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: This is what I said.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: The whole thing was designed to create controversy for these purposes.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: And if that wasn't bad enough, my guy decided going next door by I-95.5.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: Now this was a horrible idea, right.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: Going to I-95.5 is a different ball game to go in red 96.7 because, again, while I say that typically on urban radio, people are underprepared, they are not well read.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: It might even be necessary for them to be well read.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: All the men come to talk about what happened today and share some vibes on radio stations and live people's spirits while they drive home.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: There is no effort to do anything else except entertain, and some of the most basic former entertainment too.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: They are unprepared.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: It's hard to listen to.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 2: As much as I like radio and things, it's hard to listen to some of these stations where they are lacking substance, right.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: The same cannot be said about I-95.5.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: These are people who have not just been on radio for a long time.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: They are well read.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: They are well read even if they are not.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: I like Dale and Tony a lot, apart from my guys.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: I idolize them for that I pattern myself.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: I mean I know where near them, right.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: But I take example from them in terms of how they show up, how they show up for topics, how they prepare, how they talk, how they show up for interviews you know what I'm saying.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: And they don't shy away from the hardest topics in any way.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: They are going to be very direct with you about questions.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: Again, some other people who are sure I-95 would be George Mbalo, joseph, who I talk about a lot.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: They are men not hiding from nobody and I'm saying no question, david Abdullah was there.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: They are very direct, well read, very educated people, and I ain't talking about no academic, I'm talking about street sense, book sense, political sense.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean Good sense of what entertains.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: The best of them passed through there.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Hardin Sergi used to do a show with Mariano Brown that I used to enjoy listening to.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: Louis Lee Singh was on there talking about issues and so on.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: Them as fellows who will entertain and educate, and they seem to be intellectually curious whether they're on the radio station or not.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: So even if you catch them on a moment where they're not on air and didn't prepare to talk about a topic, they could give you a sensible answer on any topic, whether it be sports, culture, music, news, whatsoever.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: The situation is right.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: And one of those people is Darren Marcel.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: Right, Darren Marcel has been on radio for a long.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: I remember when he was well, what I thought was just starting off on radio.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he had a history before 95.5, but he is direct, hard hitting, doesn't shy away from his shoes If you ask me.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: Slight little PNM in him.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Slightly PNM, but again he's going to be hard to.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: So I might say slightly PNM, but if I sit down in a room and he's to ask me directly, okay, so what would make you say I slide here?
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a rough debate because them fellows and them prepared and they're doing this for a living and they're good at it right.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Why did Ole carry Milady by Darren Marcel?
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: Somebody could tell me why they, when Ole see I-95.5 dollars, it should have passed straight.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: Ole have fully well known.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: The man who represented Ole from here don't know the anthem right.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: He see struggling to come up with the anthem right.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: Why Ole carry these people though and I want to put it to you like this right?
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: The question that he went to him asked me lately.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: I have a strong suspicion that all of them in that room might have troubled that question.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: I had my own troubles with the question, but here it went right.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: My dear.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: I know Ole asks you one more question.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: It is what are the words of Trinidad and Tobago?
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: What are the watch words of Trinidad and Tobago?
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: You don't understand.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: No, and I have to go now because I have to.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: I know you have to go now, but you don't want to do watch words of Trinidad and Tobago.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: I have to go now.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: I understand why you have to go.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: I understand.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: I want to thank all of you.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, this PR campaign that Ole running to try to make it seem as if this is the most important thing happening to Trinidad and Tobago now, that not going on work, settle all yourself, go all your pageant.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: Nobody can stop, ole.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: You know, we must always remember, don't forget that this is a private organization.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: Miss Grand International is a private competition.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: Stolen Productions is obviously private.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: You see, this thing where you could label yourself Miss Trinidad and Tobago, and we start to put now some kind of national stock in this thing.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: This is not a public tournament Pageant.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: This is not a public thing.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: This is not no taxpayers money into this.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: These people are the race they own for.
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 2: They pick who Ole wants and go which part Ole had to go.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: But Ole, on this PR campaign and Ole embarrassing Ole self at every turn of the way, you're only coming off as smug and arrogant for no reason.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: Darren Marcel also asked them.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: He said I hear you use one of them, fellas woman.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: He said like that right.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: He said I hear you and one of them, fellas dealing Miss Trinidad is not true, because one of the rumors is that the young Chin I might be a bird or there's any man who with them all about that he bird, because this fella was very adamant in the interview to that.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: No, she's taken, she's spoken for.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: She's not available to anybody.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: I just want that to be known as, like a bird, are you defending this one?
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: So she can't answer that.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: Is that translator?
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: Is that translator right?
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: Trolly walking with?
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 2: So this is not coming off as good.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: They also showed again they pull it up where one of the rules for the pageant was that you must not have no salaciousness, no salaciousness on the internet and so on.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: You must have no salacious pass.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: And unfortunately they pull up matter.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: I know, I mean, this is the internet era, so the pictures of salaciousness went around pretty quickly.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: But my organizer, my PR guy, was very quick to say, well, that was in the past, that was in the past.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: She was a little longer and she realized her mistakes.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: And also and I mean salute, salute, salute to my grand international translator, tobago.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: But I think you see what one of the things that there's an article here saying that is envy, right, and I just want to address that.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: Let me get into that quick now, not talking about my lady, long for somebody who's saying it.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, about pageant.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: This might be the longest topic for the episode and I have a sneaky suspicion that this story have more to give in time to come.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: More is going to come at us Very, very soon.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: But the headline is envy is to blame for opera over non TNT beauty queen Envy and a lack of understanding about the Miss Grand Internet.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I'm sure I like understanding what that is for sure.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: That is what the crooks of the country will seek.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: Surrounding the selection of Venezuelan Meledin Matarano to represent Trinidad to begotting Miss Grand International pageant in Vietnam in October, says Matarano's manager, shri Spalak.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: She a manager, yeah, we're manager.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: Additionally, parsons architect and interior designer has announced that she has initiated legal proceedings involving all parties responsible for distribution of.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, I done as well as started threatening legal thing.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: I finish.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: This story is over.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you what the real uproar is about.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: Them is Parsons.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: The real uproar is nothing to do with no xenophobia.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that they have nobody in the world who envy Meledin, so certainly not in Trinidad.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: The issue is that when you choose a woman from Venezuela or from any other country to represent us, it kind of sends the signal that wait so we don't have any beauty and brains and think that locally grown, that we could we could have is not the same as Chris Burchel who have a grandparent or some relative that here that ties him to Trinidad and Tobago and is used to add to Trinidad and Tobago team that we have, but there's no soccer warriors or strikes core team that was ever put out with the majority foreigners ever.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: It's never happened.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: It probably will never happen because it's going to be hard that there is a Trinidad team I want us to go back to when it had Trinidad red steel and Barbados Royals or Barbados name was before tried into whatsoever the name was.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: The idea of franchise cricket was a hard thing for us to accept because we was back in the Trinidad and is not Trinidadians playing.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: That is not what this is not to do with envy.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: That is not an uncommon thing.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I always wondered why CPL didn't name itself George Stone Warriors and Port of Spain um NIDRiders and named them after the cities, similar to what's done in in India, but I think the issue has to do with the fact that it could be seen as a slap in the face to the Trinidadian woman and I want to use Love in there to tell you a little story.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 5: It's hard to keep abreast of all these women, I must confess.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: It's hard to please, but do give any women from the West Indies.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: Some tend to get very fat, but don't you put off by that 明.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: They don't have much meat, but the bag of sugar is just as sweet West Indian woman only gets fancy.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: Anyone of them can be my queen.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 5: Some girl chick is so hard to please, but can any woman from the West Indian?
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 5: Some will treat you like a bookseed, yamp you out and take your money.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 5: You wouldn't believe a man so full who make women use them like tool.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 5: But when she really loves you, there's nothing in the world that she wouldn't do.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 5: Who made you leave her feel like a king?
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: If you know it's true, it's your hand that's saying West Indian woman only gets fancy.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: That girl melody can be my queen, some of them tricky, some hard to please, but can any woman from the West Indian?
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: Guy Griffith says a police state.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha ha.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: Can I make this up?
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: Can I make this up?
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: Imagine Guy Griffith saying there's a police state.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: With the article that we have with this, griffith had to say here Trinidad and Tobago is becoming a police state.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: Ha, ha, ha, ha ha.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: Anybody remember when Guy Griffith was police commissioner, the kind of things he was being accused of?
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: Anyway, former commissioner of police, national and national transformational alliance political.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: It's a national transformational Former commissioner of police.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: National Former commissioner of police and national transformational alliance political leader.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: Guy Griffith says Trinidad and Tobago is headed towards a police state.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: He was referring to the recent court order judgment in his favor.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: On September 11, justice Da Vinja Rampus had blocked the FIU from accessing Griffith and his wife's bank accounts.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: The Griffith had challenged illegality of a request by the FIU acting director, nigel Stoddard, to several financial institutions for information on their account.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: The Griffiths claimed on Sunday October.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: The Griffiths claim said October 28, 2022, the former top cop received information from an anonymous source that the FIU made a request to financial institutions for information on him and his wife, as well as other people and entities, 52 in all.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: I want to get to the part where you say is a police state.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: He quoted as saying this action blatantly violates the regulations of that government.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: The FIU, griffith, said he was fortunate to have whistleblowers share information with them.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: However, he said the abuse of power could be targeted against anyone, including persons close to and aligned with this present government.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: He outlined a list of acts which he said showed a clear pattern of abuse and steps to the dictatorship and a police state.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: This would, of course, collapse the government and fresh elections in many other countries across the world.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: Yet the silence is deafening and, even worse, some continue to support this abuse.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: Our democracy is rapidly being eroded and this must end.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: So the FFPB remember where that came from.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: Guy Griffith was still being accused of having Er ostracized his newspaper engage him in successful, having interfered with the process of the whole process of effules, not just granting a licenses but granting of dealer licenses and so on, and that whole case, or that whole matter, seems to be continuing, or it's continuing, but he at least was able to stop them from going into his financial records and so on.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: And it's a funny thing when you hear somebody like Guy Griffith talking about the place becoming a police state when, even from the standpoint of how it looked when Guy was police commissioner, it was the first time at least that I could remember seeing military type uniforms issued to regular policemen and women and the type of police presence he used to see with his team at incidents or crime scenes.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: It looked very military in nature, in addition to the fact that he was very present and very visible and vocal about everything that was going on, not just where crime and so is concerned.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: But I remember him as a commissioner, as a headman, being very involved when they say Buju couldn't come to Trindad because of his conviction and eventually they let him come, and Guy Griffith was on stage with Buju Manter, and he was also on stage with his crew with Buju and talking about from double G to double B, you know.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: So it's like I agree with him in that it never looks good when a sitting government is sending police after what could be seen as the political opponents or the people in the opposition.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: Right, it's a little worrying, but it's something that you typically see when you look at the way new governments or oppositions campaign.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: So an opposition might campaign saying that we're going to bring down the corruption of the existing government.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: Right, that's a very common thing and we tend to like to see that as a political, as the electorate, we want to see things like that because we don't want corruption to continue.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: So when you come and you say I'm going to lock them up and everybody follow that, but I could just tell you when that is implemented is a fine line between going after corruption of the governments that came before you and trying to use your power to silence a political opponent.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: So I think that that issue with Guy Griffith is one that we must continue to look at, because I would admit that I'm not a fan of politicians generally, but the circumstances under which Guy Griffith was moved let me just use your words uncomfortable.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: It was a little uncomfortable for me the whole.
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: Well, I sent a letter and I sent a list and he was top of the list.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 2: But then he primed us again and I give back Paul and I say here what?
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: Take care of the list.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: That did not.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: It don't pass the smell test.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 2: And we had to remember that the smell test is what it is right, even if these things don't go to court or can be proven or anything like that.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they don't look right and we could see when the things don't look right.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: But the same could be said about some of the things that Guy Griffith did and was doing.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 2: I remember my man fall off a chair there, you understand, when them fellows was there.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: To see him have a headline saying he plays student in the police state is a little bit funny.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: But again, what do I know?
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 2: All you want to hear what I had to say, all you want to hear when I come to play music, you know.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 5: Then you mean to tell me, Seth, you never do him nothing and him just fat up your eyes up.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: No, he make me eye black and blue.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: Then ask what the hell the police can do.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 5: No man here.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 5: I go and pay my visit.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 5: Who that Police?
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 5: Boy blue?
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 5: Oh so you is the Babylon books, such as cars and disruption and mid-domestic affairs.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: I am constable brown.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: They call me boy blue.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 5: I have here a warrant to arrest you as a meat of your girlish black and blue.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: Then ask what the hell the police can do.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 5: I come to show what police can do.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 5: I go and show what police can do.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: I have a button, tough like rockstone.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 5: I go and introduce it to your job on Back so you're teaching them on and grown.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 5: Make your beard, them ring like government phone, drop coffee or nose or play fine your looks.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: Cars they shouldn't call me Babylon books.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 5: I come to show what police can do.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 5: I go and show what police can do.
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 5: A long time I noticed some are human.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 5: It seemed like you love the beat up woman, cause every little thing on the race on the hand, like you, soon to bring them from this land.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: When we, the police on, the call Babylon, they have to give them protection.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 5: Roses are red, violets are blue.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 5: Skade them both bright, but not bright like you as a meat of the girlish black and blue.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 5: Then ask what the hell the police can do.
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 5: I come to show what police can do.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 5: I go and show what police can do.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 5: I go and make you feel some Babylon.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 5: Lick Babylon bats and Babylon kick Show me button.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 5: Don't deny your promise.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 5: You learn to have restrictor Fracture, your shin, broke your knee.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: Then you will know.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 5: Send me nesting up, call and pull your light to pull Cars.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 5: They shouldn't call me Babylon books.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 5: I am constable brown and call me boy blue.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: I know you will know what one books can do.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 5: I come to show what police can do.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 5: I go and show what police can do.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 5: Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop Almost every woman who walk this land.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 5: How bad books are too.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 5: It's part of the plan.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 5: Some dive for some driver minivan, some are politicians, some are Babylon, and when them want to unwrap it than you.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 5: There's nothing in the world that you can do, cause if you follow them, they may struggle for you, cause there is a lot that the police can do.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: I come to show what police can do.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: I go and show what police can do.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 5: I go and make a swan and all are your teeth, you live and so can eat no meat, and then I go and carry your dog as the ocean.
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 5: Let me friend them.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 5: Get peace at the action.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 5: I didn't come for reason with you Cause I know what woman can do.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 5: I am a man of the world like you.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 5: My woman could give me bun too.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: I was going to let you offer the hook, but you gonna call me Babylon.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 5: I want to show what police can do.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: I go and show what guy can do, and then big eating, pimping, pimping.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 2: I remember them days at Dub and let me tell you some more Dub.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 2: Right Before I go into Angus he was the greatest coach in history at Trans-Tibetan football In the early days.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: For all the know who now born and think, well, they're now born right, or they can hear any music as a song come out.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: I see a Buju album come out again as he drop it again.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: Drake drop out album everybody get same time.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: Diddy drop out album last week, everybody get same time.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: All of you know born and don't know what it was like to wait on radio to play a song, because there's no other way to get a song but radio right.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 2: And when a song sing in Jamaica Sometimes it takes six months, it's late in the year.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I hear after the song now reached in that Because man has to go and buy physical record and bring down here and cleaves and crossbees and these places had to get them record first and then they go into radio station.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: Here they record and like it and buy it and then they go into radio station.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: It's not a rhythm.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: It's not a rhythm where, again, ten song and a thing they go and buy 45 one by one.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 2: So when a rhythm come out in Jamaica and then fellas are twenty something song and a rhythm, it might be three, the artist DJ down here go and buy three song and a rhythm.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: So then listen, listen, listen.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: You go and buy Gus and them and they listen all day and they pick three record.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: Twenty dollars, four, forty five, and they pick up them three records now and that is where in heavy rotation on the radio station.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: So the introduction to dub back in them days Wasn't by our choice, is by what them fellas and then choose to play.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: And one of the key fellas who used to choose to play song is a fella by the name of Edison Carr.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: I wonder how good your memory is Right, how good your memory is, because everybody who on radio know they went by by pussy on them.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: They either went to Trinidad Broadcasting I think it's TBC, is he named?
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: Is he named anything?
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: Am I right about it?
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: Or they go by Nigel Nicholson.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: So Luther Nigel in in Star Broadcasting, right, but back in the day everybody who wasn't ready, you had to go and train by a fella by day, and they go and train by day.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: And they go and train by day and they go and train by day.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: They go and train by a fella by the name of Edison Carr.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: So unlike my father and them.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: So my father don't like um, he don't like this idea that Trinidadian radio nonces talk with an accent Like Renny B and them, he really being some mind style he can play some swamp dog.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: He don't like that at all.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: He find trinit should talk like trinit.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: But they have a general radio accent.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: They don't have an American accent.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: But they say it's not an American accent but it's a radio accent.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: They used to say have an urban accent.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: So Edison Carr is one of the people responsible for that.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 2: That's where Edison Carr was.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: Edison Carr had a school that train a lot of radio nonces and so on and how to speak and so on.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: And mother fucker Darian and them.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: That's where they met out gone.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean With Darian and Marcel.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: One team was learned by Edison Carr to ask them kind of hard questions and embarrassed people on the radio station and things like that.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: But a lot of the nonces who was on radio went to Edison Carr.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: It was only on a Saturday morning with Edison Carr when they playing music on the radio Because them days no reggae and dance all on thing you use to play on the radio.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, it wasn't really Calypso and Sue Conneida when I was small, grade up in the 80's and it was more like pop music and them kind of thing you used to hear plenty.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: We name again Woody White, my name is Jim Reeves.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 2: Plenty of them, jim Reeves.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: Plenty of Diana Ross and Whitney Houston.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: I used to hate listening to NBC in the morning and as much as I'd talk about Dave Elcock in the morning and how much that used to be my ride to school every morning.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: Think about this.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 2: The same way I would feel about Dave Elcock in the morning, his whole Zachary might feel about Miles and Blazor in the second movie.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: I remember Dave Elcock coming on every morning, but them fellas on the most plain is heavy.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: Michael Jackson and Lionel Richie and all set of music were at that.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: Them music is so annoying me I can't take their music.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: Up to today we never used to play a whole set of Caribbean music.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: But what you can know is that on a Saturday morning when it's time to clean out the place and floor at a polish and cushion at a take, or you know, remember the take off the cover cushion and change or something.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: Remember they used to make you wash out all them ceramic, them little fine ceramic and them every.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they wash out all them thing and put them back on anything.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 2: So I used to break them, clean out your room, clean out under the bed, move plant.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: So that was Saturday morning when my time as a little child Saturday morning was about cartoon.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: Saturday morning was to clean, and one of the things you're sure about is Edison Cargo Buoyen on your radio playing heavy soka music in rotation.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: That gave the energy to clean the place on a Saturday morning.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: But in the midst of the soka Edison Car always used to drop in something like this too.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 5: Now this one dedicated to all the youths who can afford a cup of sake and hour under 50.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 5: So listen to me.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 5: This one called the walking machine hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, follow me, follow me, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, listen to me, they're back on me.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 5: Walking machine, walking machine.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 5: Walk in my shit, I got karma.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 5: Walk in my shit, I got karma.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: Work like a police car with a siren Belly, never a note and no gasoline.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 5: Knock on my door, missin' mumma, let me in.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 5: She said what you're doing.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 5: You're looking so unclean Me and me can't wear them card floralee On the tour.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 5: We rich up on the housing scheme.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 5: Walk in my shit.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 5: I got karma.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 5: Walk in my shit.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 5: I got karma.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 5: Walk in my shit if I rode it ever in the Caribbean.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 5: Me work from Kingston, I'm a Ghana.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 5: Washington.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 5: Me work from Washington, I'm a Ghana uncle.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 5: They go check me Chinese breaching with them card miss a bang.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 5: Miss a bang In my titty mate in my cell.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 5: Some Japan Follow me now.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 5: Walk in my shit.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 5: I got karma.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 5: Walk in my shit.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 5: I got karma.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 5: Walk in my shit.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 5: I got karma.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 5: Walk in my shit.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 5: I got karma.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 5: I'm a livin' a Jamaica in the Caribbean.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 5: Never up the truck.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 5: Don't see a shanaita Burn now, yes, I'm that delisant Appagite.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: Walk up, mommy, sit down, find it with them.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 5: Sit down, find it.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 5: Version that delisant in my church in my day band champion.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 5: Follow me now.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 5: Walk in my shit.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 5: I got karma.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 5: Walk in my shit I got karma.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: Walk in my shit, never call me.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: Walk in my shit and listen.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: It never used to play too long in them.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: We carried that man me livin' my weed in him, Uncle Neville, as he heard that he turned the station and you see, and you see, the old unclean them started hearing that.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: His headache immediately.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 2: And this guy used a greeting like this too.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 5: I'm a livin' a Jamaica in the Caribbean.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 5: Never up the truck.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 5: Don't see a shanaita Burn.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 5: Now, yes, I'm that delisant, appagite.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 5: Walk up, mommy, sit down.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 5: Find it.
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 5: Version that delisant in my church in my day.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 5: Band champion, follow me now.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 5: Walk in my shit.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 5: I got karma Walk in my shit.
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 5: I got karma Walk in my shit.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 5: I got karma Walk in my shit.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 5: I got karma Walk in my shit.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 5: I got karma Walk in my shit.
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 5: I got karma Walk in my shit.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 5: I got karma Walk down.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 5: Bun mark.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 5: Everything that is new.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 5: Only thing I cannot Loser pay warsh basics.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 5: I gave all my money but the guy is still askin.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 5: Why Don't Forget이?
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 5: Just like a party.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 5: And I seen old pickup girls like Kershe and Padale's Need to try.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 5: That's that.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 5: Ah, wellul, try if I do technologies twice, make it black and blue.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 5: She said do not get the money, but it me love her.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 5: You just lead me sıkilinger.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 5: They put blood on her, they add it they.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 5: You made me pilly and she realized Her heart won't stop.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: You see, central bank and the forex thing next week, for that, remind me, because Republic Bank come and see, they cut people credit card limit by half, right, so all who had credit card limit of about 10,000 US it now gone down to 5,000 US on your card, right.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: Now, again, I see a salute, salute to my guy, the wedding driver.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: Right, the wedding driver, I'm gonna be great to say man, man, man, carry me up and down on my wedding limit.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 2: I feel nice, you know.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, I see you make her post the last week.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: I had to laugh because you say, all these people who complain about this, the credit card limit is about 3,000.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: But let me say this you see, that issue, cutting that US thing by half, is a major issue.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 2: This something we gotta keep watching, you know, because when you your max was already 10,000 US and granted it does not affect most people, but the issue is that the people who it affects the most will cause it to affect most of us.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: Let me explain.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: Right, running a small business, 10,000 US dollars is not a lot of money a month.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: Right, if you have, you have subscriptions to pay that might be abroad, you have closed the buy and sell and so on.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: 10,000 US is not a lot of money for business.
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: So businesses was already constrained.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: Our business is constrained by by that 10,000 US dollar limit.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: I have to do do circus tricks every month to pay our bills that fall in US.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 2: And one of the circus tricks that we do is we get some people, some of the providers abroad I don't know if they work with their banks also and we see it on Amazon as well where I can select TT dollars when I travel recently I saw it as well where I could pay in TT.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: So you went by Marshall's, you put in your credit card, gave you the option to pay in TT or in US.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: That was one of the circus tricks we used to do.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: Republic Bank now say all that is US.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: So if I select TT for a transaction or use a supplier who could take TT dollars once is our overseas transaction?
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: They're meant to say that affect any 10,000 dollars.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: This is an issue for us.
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: Republic is not even allowing me to pay the money in US onto the card and do the transaction.
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 2: So I agree.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: I agree with my guy in that it is not going to affect the majority of people and most of the people complaining about this may not have a 10,000 US limit, but what I will say is that there will be a knock on effect, because if my business had to stay open, it had to stay profitable.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: Or I should say, if it has to stay open, it has to be profitable.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: And if I face an increasing cost, guess what happened to you.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: We live in our country.
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: There is net importers, right, particularly when you take away oil and gas from our balance of payment.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: Balance of payments is just imports versus exports, right.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: So how much you import versus how much you export, and negative balance of payment is normal.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: A persistent large negative balance of payments is an issue, because then how you're financing all these things that you're importing that you're not making money to do, right, some of it is be taxpayers dollars, right.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: So the issue with Republic Bank here being our biggest local bank today for tomorrow, decided that the limit is cut in half affects my ability to pay my bills this month and here.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: So this this month and is a problem, and I'll figure out how I go into suppliers now.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, this if I could say that there's an upside this issue has been going on long enough, where our overseas suppliers understand that we have for excess use in the country is public knowledge.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: When it first started it was worse, because all it looking like is we bad pay and we looking for excuses not to pay them and so on.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: So I will say that we've been experiencing a lot of leniency from providers who and we are all service I don't have any products bringing you know, anything like that but at least people who pay for different services they work with us.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: They say, alright, well, where you could pay now, where you could pay, you know, I mean, it's such a it's such a difficult situation.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 2: So cutting this to five immediately tells me we need to find another bank to to work with, where we have a limit that works for our level of expenses.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: Again, if we see things that we could grow into our situations, that we could even be beyond where we spend now and we had to invest to make it happen.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: It's tricky to do that investment.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: So the growth of small businesses could be affected by this and the way all of us are affected is that businesses will typically pass only increasing costs to the consumer.
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: So we will face that the consumer also affected by this, because now we had to be more judicious about what they're buying from abroad, like buying on amazon and so on.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: And I did find it a little bit um, the timing of it, think of it right september montane running into october, is when people will start getting the thing in place for what they are to buy for, uh, thanksgiving, or what they would usually buy in black friday sale, and start doing the christmas shopping and all these types of things, right?
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: So there seems to be a general effort.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: There is a general effort to get us to spend less us dollars.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: Um, maybe, maybe I'll do an episode where I could dive into that a little more, because it is not, uh, it's not a bad thing.
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: The government trying to encourage us to shop locally is actually not bad.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: I think it will feel.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 2: You'll feel a way about it any short run.
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: In the long run, we'll get over it and it can address or balance a payments deficit and even curb some inflationary pressure in the country and so on.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 2: Bull store, local business and local business opportunities and so on.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: We still net importers because even with local businesses are a lot of our inputs.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 2: So we might make we might make soft drink, might make clothes and think about a lot of our inputs.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: We don't really we don't really do primary level manufacturing and the primary product we have, we don't own it and it's running out.
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: That's the oil.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: Right, we had a little week.
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: This is why we should be glad them fellas on them Get going another game in all it Understand the long play.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: The cricketers understand the economics better than the economists, you know.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: I mean the men put itself in place in us.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, they should be good where Ghana is consumed, because the biggest team in Ghana Is going to be the Amazon warriors in the near future.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: So if you let fellas in, go secure the contract in the retirement.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: But I did see that Coleman boots said.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: Coleman boots said that the central bank injected 50 million us to ease forex issues.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: Somebody who know more about finance got to tell me 50 million us is.
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 2: I figured I could could could really Impact it, because the beginning of the article said, with TNT's credit card sales using foreign exchange projected to reach two billion dollars this year, minister of finance requested central bank to inject 50 million.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: So if you're looking at online sales, right, they say in that basically this is what also credit card sales Going to us 2 billion.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: I had assumed that that means 2 billion going out the country.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: It can be credit card sales on things locally, the content there, but um, 50 million over 2 billion, we are very, very small.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 2: Percentages are a small figure.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: But he basically said that the Republic made that decision without consultation and I think it myself in.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: But you study the consult.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 2: You never even consult me.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: They could, they could have tell me this a couple months in advance.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 2: Let me get my ducks in a row.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: But September mountain is a tricky mountain for me now because I figure some things out as the whole.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 2: We getting bills paid as a company with a Republic bank credit card is tough.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 2: But again, I mean who you want to heavy all the up with that at this point in time.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: I just just wanted to highlight that and we'll talk more about it because I'll tell you how I get through.
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: Because, if it's one thing I show, both of you get through and and and imagine bigger businesses.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: Imagine what happened with With as a continue to have a forex crunch.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 2: Imagine the very big businesses.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: They not affected by this 10,000 us limiting right, but in terms of the amount of you, as they need to bring in their containers, to bring in the goods to buy from foreign providers, to pay Consultants, on so on.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: It is it's things, things, things about to change and it about to get sticky, but when all else fails, depend on Angus.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: If, if everything else in working for you, angus Eve is going to work for you, because Trinidad and Tobago is finally I Never thought I'd be saying this but finally back in the Top football in nations in the world.
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 2: Don't mind, is a hundred right domain is a hundred.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 2: Domain is a hundred Top 100.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: But, as the headline say, fifa ranking jump shows us definitely positive in a positive direction.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 2: As I couldn't say if this from the news they written by Ronnie wallcott, trinidad because men's national football coach, angus Eve and his so says, so co-warriors, I had in the right direction after climbing from 102nd to 98 in the last FIFA rankings which were released on Thursday.
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: Listen and them say if didn't care about FIFA rankings just a couple weeks ago, right, when they asked him all the rankings, he said rank no matter, we beat big side, you understand.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: And now he's any rank, but I get damn right.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: Matter whenever matter.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: Tnt won the first two games of their 2023-24 Conkercraft Nation League a campaign versus Curacao and El Salvador earlier this month and Eve said, is just a reward for his team's effort over the last two months.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 2: It's a step in the right direction.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: We started this project in 2021 and we see in the fruits of our labor now, said Eve, whose contract as head coach was extended to March 2024 by the FIFA pointed TTFA normalization committee.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: It's been tiny steps was when a difficult road.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: The process is ongoing and is a rebuilding process.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 2: Prior to these latest rankings.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: Tnt Will last ranked among the FIFA's top 100 teams in December 2021.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: Really, that's recent, as that the TT coach is Looking is looking towards a brighter future for his team as he includes younger, a younger group of players in the mix.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 2: You work is still in progress and it's good to see the country back on the top 100.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: He told the news that the guys have done tremendously well.
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 2: We've revamped the team from 2023 Gold Cup.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: We've made several changes.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: We have made it changes in terms of the methodology, of where we are at.
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: We were focused on what we wanted to do, which introduced the younger players into the team.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: Tnt are currently ranked fourth in the Caribbean football union with with Jamaica, haiti and Curacao leading the charge.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: I can't believe we now position with Curacao?
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: Maybe Haiti, because I mean we've had some problems with Haiti back in Galleon them days.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: But Curacao, better than the Curacao with Curacao.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: Population Curacao 76 people in the island, 11 modern playing football.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: Better than me, with two CNL group matches still to come against Guatemala and Curacao.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: On October 17, tnt, on the cusp of qualifying for the quarter-final stage of the competition, quoted as saying I'll be talking to the players and they are in good spirits this august.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: Well, going into the other stages of the tournament is a good platform for us to build from for the nation's league, because I Don't think anything.
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: Anybody expected us to be here.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: I think that's true.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 2: One thing I like about Angusiva Angusiva will pick up an adversary.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: Adversary stands, you know.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: He seemed to be able to talk the team into believing that everybody hate them and Everybody against them, and I'd go out there and fight.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: If that's what you ought to do, brother, to make this team play and to make we come back and win that game.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 2: Three, two means we do that in a long time.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: No, I take in that.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 2: Yes Is we against him, will make you understand.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: I'm a tough act if the girls.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: And then who was managed?
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: Who's going against me lady had this kind of attitude that them venue and them against.
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: We are local might have been the competition.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 2: So the 13th October, we playing against Guatemala, what's in my luck would be a little bit of a I want to say, a stoner test, but also a sort of a metric as to where we really are in the region, because the CFU is not a measuring stick.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: First, I would go as far as to say Jamaica and hatey shop problems shouldn't measure themselves against the CFU Because they see, if you ain't gonna get through to no woke up on a major competition, you have to beat conker calf and until we go up ranking up, it don't matter where he is knee hundred and you will.
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 2: Until we go around came up in conker calf.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 2: We have a problem.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: We can't be losing to side, like what in my land, panama, and take them inside.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: They had to beat Conker calf at three big side America, mexico and Costa Rica.
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 2: We supposed to be competing with Costa Rica for that to spot.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: As far as I concern, we supposed to be up there.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: The fact that we have a bunch of youths looks good for my travel plans for 2026.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: That bunch of youths going to be seasoned players win, lose or draw.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 2: By the time you start qualifying for 2026, which could Women 2023, there's probably next year by by, by early next year, when we start international breaks, we should be starting our qualifying campaign and Maybe, if his contract is up to March, that is what just after March is when qualifying games will start for the World Cup for us for 2026.
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 2: And I hope he's still in his seat because the early stages of quality is upset me when he's sitting there losing in them.
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 2: Early stages are qualifying because I, when we play in Back where and said Martin and all them, place was just done, places nice to visit, but in football them is looks like dirt, looks like that them fellas playing football for the country and walking on all inclusive resort, we need to beat them Convincingly, going into them final stages where.
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 2: So so by that time this team must be accustomed to playing against Guatemala and going in Guatemala and beating them.
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 2: And going Costa Rica and beating them.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 2: Competing in Mexico with a carry, we care breed.
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 2: Going in the States, they go carry Colorado.
• 2:01:14
  Speaker 2: We, this you group of youths here, must be accustomed to that and hopefully by the time, because I saw it in the last couple episodes before this, this tournament, in winning the Solver El problems, and when you see a team winning the locker room that they say he lost, which is now senior professional footballers who going to bring a level of stability to this team, salute or be David, because over David doing he do not walk in defense and you do not walk as captain, anything but Bringing in, bringing back again people like baton stuff and and hopefully Molly know the Joneses and so on Could only do well with this team if the team doing well and then fellas decide to play their role and not, yeah, let the coach be in charge, regret when lose or draw.
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 2: The coach must stay in charge until he fired.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: You understand, until it.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: Until they fired on you.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 2: I took way away it.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 2: Care, have a locker room where Players call any shots on, saying what they want and what they want to do and so on.
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 2: That that does not.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: Um, that typically does not work, it doesn't work and it will not work.
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: So that looking like it for me, I don't know how we reach.
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: I tell myself for sure we are, we good for one hour episode today, but somehow we reach here.
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 2: We done here already, so I want to leave all over the next Edison car special right, and I'm dedicating this to the guy on Amazon Warriors and dedicating it to the Venezuelan Nationals headed by Milady Matarano, or Queen, and Organizers of stolen production limited.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: I'm dedicating it to who again, who again?
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 2: Foreigners better than me, foreigners better than me in every area except football at this point in time.
• 2:03:01
  Speaker 2: So I want to leave you one more, one more, one more Edison car special.
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  Speaker 5: We are FFly Out From the new Concord.
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  Speaker 5: We are FFly Out From the new Cormacier.
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  Speaker 5: We are FFly Out.
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  Speaker 5: Jamina Kingston, outer Salton.
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 5: We are the British with a safe toast Outer.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 5: Remember that they listen for an FF taboo.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 5: Yesterday they listened and they did cheers.
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  Speaker 5: Go eat them.
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  Speaker 5: Ffly Out.
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  Speaker 5: We are FFly Out.
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  Speaker 5: Come on, ffly Out.
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  Speaker 5: We are FFly Out.
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  Speaker 5: Jamina me, osaron, 1130 Me and Mika now with them Karl Rosemary.
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  Speaker 5: Telegram coming man it coming for me.
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  Speaker 5: No Sign by me, sister and me, annity.
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  Speaker 5: Know them who are under the lizard in a foreign city.
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  Speaker 5: Pack up female clothes, man immediately Jump in and carry me.
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 5: Say that a taxi Wish path me.
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 5: Reach out and a man, man dly Know they pay me.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 5: They from cross the Caribbean sea.
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 5: Know everybody.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 5: Man them start to sing for me.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 5: Them say foreign care, I miss me, foreign care, I miss me.
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 5: Foreign care, I miss me.
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 5: Foreign care, I miss me.
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  Speaker 5: Foreign care, I miss me.
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  Speaker 5: Foreign care, I miss me.
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  Speaker 5: In England, japan, yemen, caribbean.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 5: They listen that they ram dance.
• 2:04:42
  Speaker 5: Man Sit down and they read them like a Ennis Kapian Sting your pie or food.
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 5: Sting your pie or annan Go chat for 600 by Persecana.
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 5: They listen that they ram dance.
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  Speaker 5: We are FFly Out.
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  Speaker 5: We are FFly Out.
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  Speaker 5: Come on, ffly Out.
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  Speaker 5: We are FFly Out.
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  Speaker 5: Open a British here we we are FFly Out.
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  Speaker 5: Open a cage on me, mika.
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  Speaker 5: We are FFly Out In that delisad, you are star.
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  Speaker 5: We are FFly Out.
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  Speaker 5: The flower, gunna, you are star.
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  Speaker 5: We are FFly Out.
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  Speaker 5: The sun chest, you are star.
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  Speaker 5: We are FFly Out.
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  Speaker 5: The red jug an the master, we are FFly Out.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, mr Surjee, ma star, we are FFly Out.
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, daddy Riley, ma star, we are.
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  Speaker 2: FFly Out.
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  Speaker 2: Enjoy your week.
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 2: Next week, so to speak.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: Tuesday and week.
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 2: Listen, enjoy your week.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: Take all the time on the road.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: The road getting back wet again.
• 2:05:29
  Speaker 2: Hopefully you'll see me give you water.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 2: Well, take care of yourself and have a productive week and a safe week.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: I'll talk to you next week.
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 2: Bye.