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Damon's Story... · Billy & Lisa in the Morning: The After Show

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  Speaker 1: All right, after show podcast is on. It is a Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: and we're late today, it's almost almost eleven o'clock because
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  Speaker 1: we were recording commercials with the boys, Maddie and Damon,
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  Speaker 1: Paul Recovery, Welcome Back. So you guys were supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be on last week but you had to reschedule.
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  Speaker 2: Hope everything was okay.
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  Speaker 3: My fault, Jame and Simon the month sometimes you know, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 3: my fault.
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  Speaker 2: It's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean the people want you here, so I
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  Speaker 1: did tease it you were coming in, but then you
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  Speaker 1: had to reschedule. There's actually more to that story too.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to hear it real quick?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 2: You love anything has to do with it? Tease, okay, please.
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  Speaker 1: So the Friday before, Billy figures out what Donnie Wahlberg
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  Speaker 1: because Donnie's in town filming Boston Blue got it and
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  Speaker 1: Billy is the sixth new kid. So Billy calls Donnie
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  Speaker 1: and he goes, I'd love to get you into the
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  Speaker 1: radio station, but also what my TV show like the film?
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  Speaker 1: So they set it up where Donnie was filming Boston
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  Speaker 1: Blue with the prew on the sixtieth floor, So Billy
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  Speaker 1: sent it was going to send his cameras there, leave
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  Speaker 1: the show Tuesday and go down there, which is what
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  Speaker 1: he did. Meet Donnie, and then Donnie took a break
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  Speaker 1: from filming and then did a segment with Billy. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: got it. So this was on Friday. He's telling me this,
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  Speaker 1: so he goes, you should come and hang out with Donnie.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, it's Tuesday. So then on Monday, over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend, I was thinking about it and I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 1: Maddie and Damon are coming. So Monday I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 1: I can't go. I got the podcast. He's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: no problem. And then Tuesday came and Billy's like, gonna
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  Speaker 1: leave a little bit early, and then you guys reschedule.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, damn, so you were.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna leave Donnie Wahlberg hanging for us?
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, you guys are way more important.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate that. But it's the fact defense I could have went.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but why didn't you after we canceled because Billy
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  Speaker 4: was already on his way out and I had to
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  Speaker 4: plan to leave early.
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  Speaker 2: It's a whole thing.
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  Speaker 5: Oh so you didn't end up going?
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  Speaker 2: He didn't go. No, Yeah, hit, double tough hit. He
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  Speaker 2: didn't get to go in. We didn't show up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's okay. Again, that's my fault. I take the hit
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  Speaker 2: on that.
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  Speaker 1: No, I just want to make sure everything was okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think so well, I know everything's okay. I
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  Speaker 4: honestly can't remember why Damon only has three good weeks.
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  Speaker 5: Out of the month.
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  Speaker 4: That he's a busy guy and somebody that works for him,
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  Speaker 4: they're lucky to have three good.
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  Speaker 2: Weeks a month.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really, you're such a nice guy.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, madam.
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  Speaker 1: You did miss the book club with Dave Portnoy. Dude,
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  Speaker 1: I was bummed about that.
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  Speaker 2: Damon came through. I know you had a big meeting.
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  Speaker 4: Portnoy was way too busy for me too. Wanted not
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  Speaker 4: to do with meet. Well, my wife was surprised.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I tried to get Mat and Damon back, but they
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  Speaker 2: put the X nail on. Yeah, that was a whole
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  Speaker 2: big thing.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, here's the thing about celebrities. Okay, it's
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  Speaker 1: never the celebrity that doesn't want things to happen, it's
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  Speaker 1: the people around them. Yeah, that's what it is. Like,
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  Speaker 1: Dave said hi to everybody that walked in. If I
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  Speaker 1: would have been able to walk you in. He would
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  Speaker 1: have been like, what's up, dude. You know it's his
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  Speaker 1: people which are like, no, no, no, it's a trust me.
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  Speaker 2: It's a whole thing.
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  Speaker 4: Well because honestly, as someone who might be considered a
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  Speaker 4: little bit of a handler at times for an important.
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  Speaker 2: Person, he's like, your Dave Portnoy.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's that's exactly what I'm trying to intimate here
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  Speaker 4: in this conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I get it.
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  Speaker 4: Wait do you draw the line right? Because the hand
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  Speaker 4: is at that at some point they have to be
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  Speaker 4: the ones to draw the line. And Portnoy, as much
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  Speaker 4: as he would meet everybody, he also needs somebody to.
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  Speaker 2: Do that too, because his schedule to keep there's.
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  Speaker 4: A bunch of stuff going on. So, you know, mildly offended,
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  Speaker 4: but nothing crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Na, No, you know what, you didn't get
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  Speaker 1: back to see Dave. I didn't get to go hang
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  Speaker 1: out with Donnie. We both lost.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so if Dave Donnie listening, please somebody reach out
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  Speaker 3: to Damon and Justin.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but Dave was great, right though. It was good, dude,
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  Speaker 4: It was fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 4: That guy's amazing and he's just got such a group
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  Speaker 4: of people that like him. And mixing with kind of
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  Speaker 4: like Lisa's book club too. It was really it was
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  Speaker 4: kind of cool to be.
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  Speaker 2: About of it.
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  Speaker 1: You want to hear something that happen backstage with him,
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  Speaker 1: please awkward moment. So I brought I brought my one
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  Speaker 1: of my good friends I was going to bring. They
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  Speaker 1: were already in the list before you you.
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  Speaker 2: Knew he had to cover that, right right, So good,
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  Speaker 2: I bring.
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  Speaker 1: My friend and he wanted to bring his brother in law. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I have the two guys with me. I bring
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  Speaker 1: them back into the room. They meet Dave. Now we're
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  Speaker 1: standing there talking a bunch of guys. Okay, So the
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  Speaker 1: World Cup is on the TV. Dave's watching the World
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  Speaker 1: Cup game while talking to us, and he bet like
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  Speaker 1: fifty grand.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, he gotta have a chunk on.
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  Speaker 1: So him and his friend are kind of talking to us,
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  Speaker 1: and then you know, talking and he's like, oh, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna lose the fucking game.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and so it's getting to the very end, and
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  Speaker 1: you know in soccer, did you watch any of the
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  Speaker 1: World Cup every game?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we were all over it. Okay, me too.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, the time goes up obviously, so there
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  Speaker 1: was an hour and twenty minutes because it was extra time,
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  Speaker 1: so it was at one twenty two say, And so
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  Speaker 1: it's coming to the very end of regulation, and Dave
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  Speaker 1: finally goes, I fucking lost. I'm a fucking mush with soccer.
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  Speaker 1: I lost. I lost the game. And the brother in law,
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  Speaker 1: he was so nervous, he goes, what do you mean
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  Speaker 1: you have an hour two hours left?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Dave goes the fuck you say? And I was like, dude,
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  Speaker 1: what drained from my body? Because I just introduced him
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  Speaker 1: to him? And he goes it says an hour and
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  Speaker 1: twenty two minutes and port and he goes, you fucking
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  Speaker 1: with me.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, please stop, and he goes, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: he goes. The time goes up, and.
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  Speaker 1: The kid was like, oh yeah, oh my hey.
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  Speaker 4: And and you know, someone who may or may not
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  Speaker 4: have had bets on games before. When somebody, no matter
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  Speaker 4: what I've done, and wrong pick that I've made, because
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever made a right pick in
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  Speaker 4: my life, the moment somebody else interjects and it's your
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  Speaker 4: fucking fault. I just lost fifty thousand. That's exactly what
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  Speaker 4: Port and I was going through right day. He wants
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  Speaker 4: to choke that guy out. You keep your mouth shut.
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  Speaker 3: So that guy got to meet portantly, but Damon didn't
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  Speaker 3: correct the guy.
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  Speaker 4: And I can tell you one thing, him and I
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  Speaker 4: would have been able to sit and talk soccer, betting,
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  Speaker 4: all that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You would have you know what I mean, you would
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  Speaker 2: have to be clear.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember I years ago one time at one
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  Speaker 4: of the houses I was. There was some game on
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  Speaker 4: and uh, I had the right side of it there
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  Speaker 4: winning and somebody goes, oh, it's a lot and one
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  Speaker 4: of the guys in the house I almost throw them
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  Speaker 4: out of the house. I was like, shut up, that's fine.
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  Speaker 4: You can't say that because they're like, go the games over.
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  Speaker 4: But there's like three minutes left.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Are you a reform? Like do you not gamble at all?
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  Speaker 1: Or do you still gamble sometimes?
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  Speaker 2: No? No, I'm better now. Okay, So that was part
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  Speaker 2: of your Yeah, it was fiction.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was yeah, which we're going to get to
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  Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes because it is Damon's story time.
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  Speaker 1: And I hope Maddie.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't want to get revenge on you for.
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  Speaker 3: What hijack and the whole fucking well I was.
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  Speaker 2: A part of that too.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, well there was a lot to die to
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  Speaker 1: like diagnose in your story or not diagnosed, but like
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  Speaker 1: chime in on, it's an interesting story before we get there.
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  Speaker 1: About two weeks ago, I got and this is just
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  Speaker 1: to show, like what you guys do in real time, right.
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  Speaker 1: So I get a DM on a Friday night, I
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  Speaker 1: think it was at like eight thirty at night from
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  Speaker 1: a listener and she said, hey, Justin, I had I
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  Speaker 1: called Power earlier today to get into I think the
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  Speaker 1: DUI program. Yeah, yeah, literally like three or four hours before.
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  Speaker 1: And she goes, I didn't get a call back yet.
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  Speaker 1: I know they're going to call me back, but I
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  Speaker 1: just want to let you know. You know, I really
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  Speaker 1: have to get in, you know. So I thought to myself,
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  Speaker 1: like eight thirty at night, and I go, should I
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  Speaker 1: wait till tomorrow or Monday to let them know? And
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  Speaker 1: I literally thought about it, and I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: bet if I was with Maddie and Damon later on
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  Speaker 1: and I told them this guaranteed they would say call
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  Speaker 1: or text us right now, like when that happened, we
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  Speaker 1: want to know. Yeah, So I text Damon instantly text
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  Speaker 1: me back. He goes send me the information. I send
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  Speaker 1: him the name boom All said within five minutes.
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  Speaker 2: It's how we operate to done.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she mested me back, She's like, oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I just want to say thank
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  Speaker 2: you for well.
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  Speaker 5: You can't leave people like that hanging.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You know, my biggest thing ever going into the first
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  Speaker 3: business that I ever had was a person needs.
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  Speaker 5: To answer me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want an automated thing. I don't want no call.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever you call, I don't even know what you call them,
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  Speaker 3: because I.
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  Speaker 5: Won't hire them.
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  Speaker 3: A person from my company needs to answer the phone.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, there's nothing like that. And you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: all part of running a business is you want people
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  Speaker 1: to feel good, right if they come into your program,
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  Speaker 1: if they're using your services, even getting into the program,
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  Speaker 1: they want to have a good experience.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care if you answer the phone and say,
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  Speaker 3: hey with swamp, let me call you back in ten minutes.
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  Speaker 3: You know, at least you have a human interaction. It's
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  Speaker 3: somebody that works for the company. It's not a third party.
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  Speaker 3: So anybody you talk to relating to Power of Recovery
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  Speaker 3: or Chelsea Salves Power Out.
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  Speaker 5: They work for that company.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, so it's not a guy in India.
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  Speaker 3: Not a guy in India. It may sound it sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Who does answer the phone? Do you have a phone
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  Speaker 1: person or is it just we have.
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  Speaker 3: An admissions department and the front desko rings. Still I
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  Speaker 3: like to be right up in it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's important, it's important for sure. Okay, So you
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  Speaker 1: guys were on last month. Obviously we had part two
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  Speaker 1: of Maddie's story. I did get some reaction from listeners
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast. It was a long, it was pretty long,
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  Speaker 1: but very good people did like, well.
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  Speaker 2: Let's find the listeners will tell us, Yeah they will.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations justin on eighteen years sober. I am fifteen days today. Wow.
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  Speaker 7: And a lot of that is because of the commercials
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  Speaker 7: that you guys run for Power of Recovery. So I
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  Speaker 7: appreciate you guys, and congratulations.
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  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
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  Speaker 5: Wow, that's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you didn't have to hijack my story.
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  Speaker 5: I'm glad about your fifteen days with shit.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus. Yeah, it's fine, Dave, I got.
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  Speaker 5: This girl to keep calling back in. Let's track her.
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  Speaker 2: Please do please do.
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  Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean let's let's voluntarily have her
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  Speaker 4: call in listen.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what am I going to do?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 4: You could go meeting to meeting like you did when
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  Speaker 4: you find in your wife and just track her.
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  Speaker 2: That's yeah, you said that.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, if you did miss the last two
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  Speaker 1: podcasts with them, it's Maddie Part one and part two,
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  Speaker 1: you'll understand that the difference there.
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  Speaker 2: Congratulations on your fifteen absolutely.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, hi, Justin, it's Joe. I just wanted to say,
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  Speaker 6: great podcasts as always with Damon and Maddie. Really their
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  Speaker 6: message obviously is for people in recovery, but then also
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  Speaker 6: just people in general on really hard work, persistence, really
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  Speaker 6: day to day hustle will get you where you need
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  Speaker 6: to be and really a great message for all. So
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  Speaker 6: thank you for putting in that time with them.
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  Speaker 5: I love how she noticed that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the hustle, Well, yeah, once the drugs are out of you,
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  Speaker 3: says the life is life.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true. The drugs are just a symptom of
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  Speaker 2: what we have minuscule.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it really goes to show you, you know,
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  Speaker 1: your story, especially Maddie, I mean starting from you know,
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  Speaker 1: the working as a plumber, you know, not even nowhere,
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  Speaker 1: and then starting a plumbing business and then opening a
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  Speaker 1: sober house. You just kept pushing forward, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: this wasn't just handed to you, this whole thing.
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  Speaker 2: You had to work for it, you know.
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  Speaker 8: Oh God, I'm getting caught up on the podcast and
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  Speaker 8: I'm crying when I listened to Damon and Manny because
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  Speaker 8: it's your eighteen year anniversary and I can't imagine you
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  Speaker 8: relapsing and you were talking about your friend and then
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  Speaker 8: I fast forward to the one about your son and Okay,
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  Speaker 8: that's it. I'm done for the night.
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  Speaker 6: You are wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So that was right around my eighteen year anniversary. So
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  Speaker 1: it was kind of a recovery heavy week of podcasts.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, look at the I do talk about
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  Speaker 1: this a lot on the podcast. Is I know, it's
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  Speaker 1: hard to imagine someone like me or someone like Maddie
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  Speaker 1: or Damon relapsing, but it's a reality in our world,
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  Speaker 1: and the disease that we have, it doesn't matter how
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  Speaker 1: long you have, it could happen to anybody. Yep, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And I mentioned my friend he had twenty years clean
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  Speaker 1: and he relapsed and guess what, He's still drinking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's.
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  Speaker 3: Really to take his eye off the ball.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's so tough, Like not that it in
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  Speaker 4: any relaps isn't difficult, but I think a lot of
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  Speaker 4: times when you have a bit of time under your
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  Speaker 4: belt and you pick up, the comeback is so so
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  Speaker 4: I feel like it's so heavier because like you want
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  Speaker 4: to just wake up with twenty years again, yep, and
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  Speaker 4: and there's just no way to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Figure out how much time it takes to get I
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  Speaker 1: mean it takes to get twenty years. It takes twenty
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  Speaker 1: years a day at a time. Yeah, but then it's
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  Speaker 1: all gone. And then it's almost like you have a
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  Speaker 1: built in excuse to keep using.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because you're like fuck it and you don't like,
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  Speaker 4: I know, it sounds so simple when you say that
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  Speaker 4: it takes twenty years to get twenty years, but like it,
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  Speaker 4: like when you like sit there and process that whole statement,
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  Speaker 4: it literally takes twenty years, one day at a time
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  Speaker 4: to get there. And then when whenever something like that happens,
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  Speaker 4: when you have the slip of the relapse of the run.
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  Speaker 2: You know you you you don't wake up with twenty
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  Speaker 2: year is again. You just don't no, no, uh? Do
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  Speaker 2: you okay?
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to take some questions we love before
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  Speaker 1: the story. You want to get those out of the way.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably gonna have a four segment story, so let's
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  Speaker 3: get the calls.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm kind of a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, Damon can talk.
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  Speaker 2: That is true. We know that.
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  Speaker 9: So all right, hey, justin it's the Angela the scientist.
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  Speaker 9: You're probably with your Power Recovery guys right now, but
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  Speaker 9: I had a question for them if you get this
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  Speaker 9: in time, are there volunteer opportunities there? Because I am
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  Speaker 9: looking to volunteer somewhere again to help people. Let me
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  Speaker 9: know if there is.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, thanks, match scientist buddy, all right, yeah, me and
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  Speaker 1: Damon will want street scientists.
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  Speaker 4: Mixing and matching the chemicals. Man, oh, you got it done.
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  Speaker 9: Well.
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  Speaker 1: I know Angela, I've met her before and she is
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  Speaker 1: a legitimate scientist. But she wants to volunteer. What could
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  Speaker 1: she do anything?
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  Speaker 4: So those kinds of opportunities don't really live at POWER
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  Speaker 4: just because it's a treatment program.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: But in the recovery world, yeah, yeah, there's definitely different things.
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: There's events like you know, an outside event, like we
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: have our big annual Bobbicue coming up on September thirteenth.
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: You know that's one where someone could help and them
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: there's some other stuff. If she wants to reach out,
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: send an email, text, call, whatever we can.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: We can kind of line her up with some information.
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: What's the email you reach?
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's very easy if you can just hit
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: me directly because I'll be the one contact and it's
• 14:20
  Speaker 4: Damon d A m o N at powerf Recovery dot org.
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: We could take it to a table event to something.
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a bunch of different like outside events, and
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: then you'll kind of get her introduced to what that
• 14:33
  Speaker 4: looks like and and outside in the community events like that.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: We have absolutely have volunteer opportunities, but inside the program itself.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: We you know, we're not able to do that. Okay,
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: come to.
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: A table event. I want to chop it up with
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: a scientist.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that'll be wicked. I've met her before, she's
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: she's a scientist. Let's do it.
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: We can even like create like at one of our
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: things coming up this month, we could have like ask
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: the scientist, you know what I mean Okay, Yeah, she'll
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: be able to interact.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we can figure out.
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: Angela right, Angela, Angela science, Angela reach out. Let's go
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: put your money where you am out this Hi science.
• 15:06
  Speaker 7: Hey, justin question from adding So, I have been an
• 15:09
  Speaker 7: alcoholic for quite some time, very heavy. In the past
• 15:12
  Speaker 7: seven years. I would drink probably a handle of vodka
• 15:16
  Speaker 7: like every three days, plus lots of NEPs and I
• 15:21
  Speaker 7: it quit almost a year July fifteenth. I have a
• 15:25
  Speaker 7: very strong faith. Not even my teenage children my husband
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: knew that it was as bad as it was.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: I think she left out the question. Yeah, I think
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: she did. Yeah, so she needs to up send a
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: part two.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: I think let's get a part too, because she got
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: my interest.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Actually, it was really interested in that question too. I
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: thought she was going to go something like being around
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: people that drink, or maybe she has.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: Strong faith, which we need to stay clean. True, you
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: need to live a good life strong faith. Faith alone
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: won't keep you clean and sober.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: We are that, I know with drinking, especially you know,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: it's because it's so socially acceptable. So people that really
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: struggle with alcoholism, it's hard man, especially in the beginning,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: being around that, being around bars and people.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: That drink and Quentin peak drinking season July fifteenth.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, I know, bless her. I know that's serious.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: That's that's not an easy task to pick up, especially
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: that time you do barbic use all this stuff.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: People like, oh, hey, you're not going to have a drink.
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: You're going If she could call back in that would
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: be great.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, send send a part to it. So my question
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: is a bad.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Thing She sent two parts?
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Oh well, they's in resting.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: He didn't research this.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: You know why you only get thirty seconds?
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Oh maybe we should have limited mad the thirty seconds.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: Go ahead, wait till he tells his story.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Most long fucking guy that's coming this question, and then
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: we'll move on.
• 16:50
  Speaker 7: So my question is is it a bad thing for
• 16:54
  Speaker 7: my recovery that it's not a thing that I don't
• 16:57
  Speaker 7: say it, that people don't really know about it. People
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: see a difference of change in my appearance, and I
• 17:04
  Speaker 7: do say that I don't drink any longer. But is
• 17:07
  Speaker 7: it bad for my recovery and my long term saying
• 17:11
  Speaker 7: in a recovery that I don't make it, I.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Don't say it.
• 17:14
  Speaker 7: It's not a thing.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Mm here's it's really nobody else's business. If you're in
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: the twelve step fellowship, it's supposed to start at the
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: door and end at the door. You don't need to
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: bring it out there. Your actions and the way you
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: behave will show that. On the flip side of that,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: it's a freeing feeling to just say what you are
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: and this is what I'm doing.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: And I was also thinking, like from the reservation side
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: of things, like are you not sharing with people because
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: you have a reservation and if you share with people, hey,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: I'm in recovery, I'm an alcoholic, you know what I mean?
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: You are you doing that so that you, whether you
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: consciously or subconsciously realize I want to keep you.
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: You could do the same pot.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you feel shameful what you are and I'm here
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: to tell you.
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: And the same as these two guys.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: You go so long you really don't care anymore.
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, that's what I did, This is what
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: I do now.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: So what She's got a year?
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: So yeah, just over a year, Like, hey, we can't
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: if we all got judged on our past.
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: Jesus Christ.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think she uh, you know, I think it's
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: a personal decision. But what damon said, I didn't even
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: think about that. It's so true because once you say
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: it and someone knows, then say, you relapse. So you
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: want to have a drink around that person or those people,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, whoa, no, no, no.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: You're an alcoholic. Yeah.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: But if you don't say it, it stays hidden, you know.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: But again, Maddi's right too. Once after a while you're like,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I say it on the radio, dude.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, we're on a as on the front page
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: of the Herald and Globe.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like the Running Jokers, I got paroled into here,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's how they picked me up.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I'm fucking parole. So anyway, we appreciate the talkbacks. Please
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: keep them coming. You guys are coming back in late September. Yeah,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: So if you're listening to this now and something sparks
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: a question or comment, leave a talk back for the
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: after show. Are you ready over there? I guess we're
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: gonna go live here do it live?
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Damon.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: So we did Maddie Story Part one and two, and
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: now we're gonna have Damon Story. So we'll try not
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: to interrupt, but if we do it's from a place
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: of love. No, it'll the'll be like real questions from
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: me because I've heard your story, but I feel like
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I don't remember it because it's been so many years.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, it's been a while. Yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: So I was just asking about one of the big bosses,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: was just asking us how we knew each other, because
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: I said, I knew you long before radio.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Who's the big boss from Baltimore?
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Aaron Aaron Ryland? Is that? Oh yeah? Yeah? Oh here Aaron? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: He wasn't like we were just having conversation in the hallway,
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: right and and we were just you know, they hadn't
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: met us before.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: So it's already begun to see how long is wait?
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Hold on, interesting? What time is it?
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: It's eleven eleven, make a wish. I'm interesting. Wait you
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: didn't see aything bad about it?
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Right? No, dude, that's the big big boss.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean everybody knows. They're like, they asked how
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: you can tell me? I know, I was hesitant at
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: f IRUs to be like, oh yeah, we used to
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: go to meetings together.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, don't don't look at me, look at my eyes.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Don't look don't at him. Don't Okay, what did he say?
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Did you say anything crazy? This one your friend? Don't
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: look at him.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: No, he asked us for jobbers.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I told Billy and Lisa are sweating down the end
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: of the hallway with coming.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh boy, that's yeah, Damon. Damon and I
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: have known each other since we got clean early on.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: So the floor is yours, my friend.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: The floor is mine, and uh yeah, it's always uh
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: you know what, I didn't understand.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: This kid's such a he's been waiting for this. He's
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: been waiting. That's a wild dude. No, I because he's
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: heard my story more than any the human on.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: But you've heard his story a million times too. Maybe
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: we should bring on a special guest.
• 21:06
  Speaker 10: I'm actually Damon Weinberg's wife.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: I can see how this is gonna go.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: No, I'm not. I can turn his mic off. No,
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: don't do that, that's all the fun. We don't want
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: to mute him. I mean, if you mute him, you
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: can only do like temporary mute. You can't keep the
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: kids show. There's no quiet and that thing down anyway.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: So walk over to my microphone, command that I stand
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: up and take it over.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, you know what I mean? Well, I mean, yeah,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: I don't know. My story is my story. It's always fun.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's so weird to to do this, Papa, Like,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: what about would it be easier if I interviewed you easier?
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: How did it stop?
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: This is so bad?
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: No, man, it's like I've told you a million always.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I'd like to know where you grew up. That's what
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I like.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: I grew up in Chelsea, like stupid over here, so
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: i'd be stupid. Yeah that's him. Yeah, dude, so we
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: we grew up and Maddie will I say Chelsea, but
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: they always call it Prattville because it was like a
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: little pot of Chelsea that then I was like Prattville, like, oh,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: you don't want to be like roped in with the
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: bad parts. Technically it was the nice pot of Chelsea.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: But yeah, so I listened. Grew up in a good
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: house on good old chieve Street with the fire station
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: at the bottom of the hill, and it was, you know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: good times. Both my parents alive well together back then,
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: I know, yeah.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Thanks, thank you. I knew it was coming. Are they
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: still together?
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Well, they were together until my old man you know. Yeah, yeah, Jerry, Yeah,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: big guy with the star of David. Yeah, yeah, she's cruising, dude, cruising.
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: Jerry was holding her back.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Here, I say, dead weight. That's terrible. I know it's horrible.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I can't help. But that's how I did with death.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: But uh, my old man lived.
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: A good life, my my, the last couple of years
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: with so you know, the fact that it was time
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: for him to go. My mother is able to continue
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: to live her life because she's alive, and that's how
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: it should be. So that's the only Yeah, yeah, no,
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: she's good.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: The old man, you know, got hit with the cancer
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: and it just grabbed a hold of him in the.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Last forest two time. All right, go ahead, No, people
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: are gonna get the wrong impression. Just so you guys know,
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: we're good like all this stuff like, don't like people
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: get that.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Don't we get through these things like this, Like the
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: first person to make sure I'm okay is stupid over here.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: So the fact that we torture each other about things
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: that may or may not be painful in our lives
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: is just what we do to get through. So please,
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: don't you know, get oh my god, they're terrible I
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: mean we are, but just to each other. Yeah, you know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: if I get you anyways, So whatever, I grew up
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: with both of them. I'm a little middle. So there's
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: four of us, like an older brother, older sister, myself,
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: and then a little sister, so little middle, you know
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: what I mean. Sort of you could call that the
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: beginning of feeling unseen, you know what I mean. But dude,
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: we had a good life right there was we weren't
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: We weren't rich or anything like that, but you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: we got by.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: But I personally, it's out of my head.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Always was like uncomfortable, always like I don't know how
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: early it started, but I always felt like the best
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: way I say it is, I felt kind of like
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: the black Sheep and a black Sheep family. We were
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: like a Jewish family growing up in an Irish Catholic neighborhood.
• 24:31
  Speaker 11: So well, Weinberg is definitely yeah, yeah, yeah, well my
• 24:39
  Speaker 11: mother was not, but she converted to marry the old man.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Like things that you did back in those days. You know,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: we were talking earlier, I think off Hea when we
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: were recording about you know, what did I do growing
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: up Christmas?
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Or uh, what was the other thing. Hanakah, you know
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: what I mean. So yeah, you know, we kind of
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: did them both.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: But for a little while, we hit it from my
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: my father's you know, my father was an only child,
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: so we hit it from his side of the front,
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: you know, my grandmother and grandfather for at show period
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: of time. And then it just was like, okay that
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: we do Christmas because they get kids and it's America,
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Did you experience any kind of prejudice or anything because
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of being Jewish?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I mean yeah, but I don't. I don't want to, like,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: let's not get carried away here.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: I experienced everything from prejudice to bully into anything else
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: that you experienced in the eighties as a child, dude,
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, we're not I don't
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: think it was anything extra.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not like, oh my god, I picked up because someone.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Called me a Jew, Like it's not you know what
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, Like there was absolutely some of that. There
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: was anything from that to anything else like it and
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: back and forth.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean. Where you know, I think
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: people know that grew up in this area, like we're built.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: A certain way, Like you go out to California somewhere else,
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: Like you go outside in New England and people can't
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: understand that you like your friend when you call him
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: a piece.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Of shit, you know what I mean.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So there was a reality I saw on Instagram
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the other day. I said it to my friend and
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: it's like, how you know your best friends fuck you bitchy?
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: Literally literally, So yeah, I mean, you know, I experienced
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: some of that stuff, but nothing again, nothing outside the box,
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I would say. But again for me, like for whatever reason,
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: my perception was probably always a little bit skewed. I
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: was like I was really smart, a book smart, and
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: then and it made me feel like uncomfortable. So like
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: kind of early on, I was also a very funny kid,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: so I would sort of be a class clown, like
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I'd get really good grades easily and be a class
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: clown because I don't want people think I was a nerd,
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: you know. So like and for me, that struggle was
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: like from as early as I can remember it, like
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I was I I had a paper route, but I
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: went and shoplifted at like six seven, eight years old.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: I learned how to boost candy out of this neighborhood store.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: And then like I was like always hustling because I
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: felt like I felt like we didn't have money, you
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: know what I mean.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Like, so I was always like looking for ways to
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: make money. You didn't your family didn't have money, like I.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Said, grew up in Chelsea, dude, with with like my
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: four kids. My father, Like my father was like one
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: of the greatest men I've ever known. Like he always
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: everything he always did was just about taking care of
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: his family. But it was never like he never had
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: like any kind of a career, Like he always went
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: through different things, but always made sure he had a
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: job and fed us. And then at some point when
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: my mother went from being a stay at home mom
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: to work and too, and she had more of like
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: a longer career with the MBTA.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: God dad sounds like my dad. My dad had like
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: every job.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: In the life.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Like including porn director.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: That's amazing. Yeah, so same kind of thing.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: My father might have had that job privately, but I
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: think so yeah, yeah, I don't want to really.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Dive into that pot.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: But can I comment on things you're saying?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Yes, I want to know, please feel free, don't don't.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: He's just being quiet, Yeah, but he doesn't want to
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: be dude.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Well, because I'm identifying essentially, Yeah, like when you talk
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: about being smart and good in school but then hiding
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: it and being a class clown. I identify with that
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: so much because school came easy to me and my friends.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that wasn't the case. So I remember being
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: in like the garage, the alternative school, and I'd be
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: in class and I have to pretend to be stupid, yeah,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: because I couldn't look like I knew things, So I
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: pretended to not be able to read or to not
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: know things because I was in there with kids that
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: literally couldn't read, you know what I mean. So I
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: identify with that. It's the same kind of like where
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: do I fit in?
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent, dude, And like it was just
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: again same thing because it came so easy. I would
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: just be like, oh, fuck, these guys are gonna like
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, I don't I want to
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: be talking yeah yeah, yeah, like work, you.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean. It's just everything's so easy, you
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? BookSmart though, good guy to having
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: your team book smart.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: And then obviously because I like was sort of a
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: street smot, we picked up I think you had to anyways,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: but like it was like you just sort of like
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: kind of like learn the ways of the walk, like
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: and I think it was a better time for that
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: for us when we were growing up, just because like
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: the you didn't have the cell phones, you couldn't search everything,
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: you couldn't do all this other stuff, Like you had
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: to deal with things in front of you in the moments, right,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: So like you know, you had to learn early on
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: when you talk to somebody a certain way, you had
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: to deal with that person when you know what I mean,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: All sorts of different things like that taught you life
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: early on. And then you know, I don't even know,
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: like I just like was hitting. I was never good
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: at being the like doing the bad stuff. I always
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: got caught from anything from shoplifting to you know, Robin
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: poking me, is getting in trouble in school, like any
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: of that stuff. Like I can just continue to look back,
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: and you would think I would have seen a lot
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: of these road signs on the way, but I had
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: no idea like kind of what I was escaping. Like
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: obviously I'm able to talk about this now and identify
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: the feelings I felt back then, I had no clue
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: that I felt like uncomfortable or like what that was,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: like why I was feeling how I was feeling, and
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: you know why I was like misbehaving, you know. And
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: then little middle add that part of it for me
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: in the family, like trying to find my attention, like
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: I was like a little bit of a weirdo if
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: you guys can actually believe it, Like yeah.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: I definitely see it a little bit. But that makes
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: you great. Well, I appreciate that.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: Like when I was a kid, my father taught me
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: how to play CODs, probably not the best thing.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: My grandfather was like a bookie.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: I think that's some of that stuff like lays into
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: like you know, some of the different things I experienced
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: early on.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: One of the things I did very early for a hustle.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: We used to pitch coins as a kid. And I
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: don't know if anybody knows who that is anymore, but
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: you would.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: You would just you'd get quarters.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: And you'd toss them and whoever got closest to the
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: wall kept the coins. So it did be three or
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: four you have thrown coins against the wall. If you
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: got to lean to somebody had to pay double wa
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: the coin leans up against the wall, like standing on
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: edge so we would do I was like boosting candy
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: at the local Pratfulm Pratfulm lot. Uh it was Kim's
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: we called it back then because she was the owner
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: of the store, and like selling it out of a
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: toys rust pencil box in the school yard at Prattville
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: School and then taking those coins and.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Pitching it like I was hot like all that stuff.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Like I'm talking like I was in Great Aid School
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: doing this stuff so like fourth grade, fifth like you.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean, eight nine, ten years old.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm like doing all these hustles for multiple reasons,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: like you know, feeling feeling short, like we didn't have money,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: wanting to fit in, wanting to be cool, like all
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: those different things, you know. And I think it just
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: continued to lead down a path for me, you know
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: what I mean.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Like meanwhile, if you went, if you stayed on the
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: other way and did good in school and applied yourself,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: you probably could have graduated high school, went to a college,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: and went that route right.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I had I had a girl, uh,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: I grew up with him.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: She wound up going Hobbard, and I would have liked
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: that's like where I look at like, you know what
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: I mean? Oh, he thinks he could have went to
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: harm Yeah, Suffolk loss something. They're hundred perp stuck.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: In a cubicle for that next Thursday.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: I am stuck in a cubicle. Now, dude, what are
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: you talking hold about?
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Maddie in all seriousness right, I know, not even fucking around.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Don't you think that he could make a good laws.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: I don't hire a lawyer. We don't have a lawyer
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: because you have, Damon, I have games.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah see what I mean, I can When you said
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: that about Harvard, I was the first thought that popped
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: into my head.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we got and dams. Literally there's been a few
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: things that have come across on plate that anything.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well you just kind of like I'm like, hey,
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: you guys, mind if I take a crack at this toy, Like, yeah,
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: go ahead, what's the worst happens?
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: We hire a lawyer after if I can't? You know
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: what I mean? But yeah, we've been fortunate at work.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: We call them Damon Weinberg Esquire.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I literally when I was a kid, I did
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: have thoughts and dreams and hopes of of you know,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: being an attorney.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: So it's funny that we say, well.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: You're very well spoken, and you can articulate very well,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: you know, and you are very you can tell your intelligence.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: So that's why I could see that.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that. It's very kind. I wish more people
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: said kind words like that about.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: No problem, I got you.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Anytime you need something nice, come to this part.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I got to come in here like once a month
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: to get that. You know what I mean. It's brutal
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: at the job site. You get it on both ends,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: and nobody likes me in the middle, you know, the
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: little middle's that. It's like when a kid cop out. Alright, wait,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: so do you know Maddie at this point in your life?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: When did you meet Maddie?
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: No?
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Not like so it's Chelsea. So everybody knows kind of
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: like the families and stuff like that. But I'm little,
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: and then for me, he's much older than me.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not way old, way old dude.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Seventy nineteen seventy six, okay, nineteen seventy nine, so three years.
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: But in those times when you're talking back when you're
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: eight ten, yes, I'm much older.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Think about a twelve versus a nine year old one
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen versus twelve.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: So there was some crossovers.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: We started to get older, and then obviously we kind
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: of knew who each other like as things led for
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: like as we both went deeper into the abyss.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: We definitely kind of knew who each other was.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: We would never we never were hanging out before we
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: got clean.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Never really yeah, never, you just knew each other. No,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: we knewho I know who he was and who I was?
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Like you never used to go no, no, I didn't
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: know that never never never, not, dude, we didn't.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: We didn't really connect until we were both clean and
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: then and then even more so when he was clean
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: the second time, like he and his story talks about
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: we did my story already. Yeah, well he talks about
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: he had that he came in, he got he got uh,
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: he got clean for like a year year and whatever
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: it was. And then and then he ate a couple
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: of bikes at work with Big Kelly in his truck,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: and and it was after that when he came back
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: in that I was kind of like in like, but
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: we sort of like whatever it was, we somehow kind
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: of like missed each other. And I think part of it.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: We'll get to my story. But early on, I wasn't
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: going to as many meetings. I was sort of limited.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: He was still overdosing.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: And halfway we make it here we go, Yeah, is
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: that true.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: We'll get to that definitely. Wait back back up, Okay,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: so teenage.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: So still like at at that age ten whatever, and
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: then I'm not even I'm.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Just getting into stupids naked.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah we can no, No, We'll definitely get there, I promise.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: So like, all right, we like with fifth sixth grade, right,
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: and I'm still doing that, and as we I'm still
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: in Chelsea and I'm going into uh, you know, some
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: different things, different schools.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: At this point in time, I finish up at Pratical.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: School, We're going over to Williams School, the middle school,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: and you know, I'm still feeling like uncomfortable and shit
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: But then you know, we get into.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Uh, when I was in when I was in eighth
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: seventh going into eighth grade, they moved the eighth grade
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: to the high school. So it was like I was about,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: you know how you have like those little points where
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: you're like kind of like you're going to sixth grade
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: and grade school and you're like, now that the top
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: of the building, right, then you move to middle school
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: and you kind of drop back down and then so
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: whatever I never got it was like just weird. I
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: don't even know why I bring it up, but like
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: it was another strange thing for me moving in there
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: and then going in like going into my freshman year,
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: we moved out of Chelsea into Malden, and I was
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: like fighting it so bad. I didn't know that I
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: was in London, not the projects in the square terrible.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Do you think of Linden? Do you think of the
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: problem immediately? Right? I did. I had no idea. I
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: didn't know nothing about Maldon.
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: So now I'm a I'm a displaced at fifteen years old,
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: I'm going into my freshman year in school, and I
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: didn't even I want up going up to the voke
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: because yeah, I was in Chelsea High for eighth grade,
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: and then I started like freshman year at Chelsea. I
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: because I was like fighting the whole idea of us
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: moving and and then I had to move to the vokee.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: So I went to the vote halfway through my freshman year.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: And then I'm confused, right because it's like not jail,
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: but like it's very clickie right, it's high school to
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: begin with, but then the vokee there's there's all different towns. Yeah,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: so when I went up there at this point, now
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm living in Maldon, but I know that'll else
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: the kids and I don't really know them, all the kids.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: So now I'm like stucking this weird fucking.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: God, it's like jail. It was so horrible. Dude.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: You have to pick what your race, you know, you
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: have to stick with your own race, and if you don't, Yeah, dude,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm like. That's one hundred percent why I'm
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: saying it. And so then like I'm out of Chelsea,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: so I don't really feel comfortable with those guys. I'm
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: in Maldon.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: I don't really know them, and that's like where it
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: started for me, Like the picking up thing, that's like
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: where beginning.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I was still fighting the whole thing.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: So you're blaming your parents for moving.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Why you use it? I didn't say that, I'm jam Jerry. Yeah, yeah,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: that's your parents fault.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, if we're going to pinpoint something, I'm taken out.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Of the store, my mother might listen to this.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: I know, and not your fault in using you as
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: a cop out.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: It was a turning point in your life, for sure.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: It was definitely a turning point.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: So like I'm already uncomfortable, and now like I'm in
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: a new school in a new neighborhood, and and then
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: I'm torn between hanging out in Chelsea and hanging out
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: with Malden. And so what happens now is is I
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: gain a little bit of this freedom. It's back in
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: the time when there's a lot more freedom at fifteen
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: years old. But I would leave the VOC on the
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: bus back to Chelsea and I would go hang out
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: in Chelsea at my buddy Ja's house, right and h
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: and his mother was she he was his mom who
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: she was a single mom, and she worked so like
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: we had virtually no supervision, dude, and and it just
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: that's it all began there, man, everything began there and
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: all of us like listen, Chelsea's a small town. So like, again,
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: I don't think it was anything even a big deal.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: Like at that age, I already experiencing drinking and stuff
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: like that. The first thing I ever did for the
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: first time was like fifteen, I smoked weed and It was.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Because there was a really really.
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: Hot girl at Ja's house that was smoking and was like, hey,
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: do you want to smoke? And I was like, and
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: she did. You know, she did like a like a
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: shotgun thing where you turned that she had a joint,
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: turned it inside out and went and you know, shotgun.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, lip to lip blew in my mouth. I was
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: was that the first time you ever? The first time? Dude,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: that's pretty coo. Yeah, dude, very that's pretty cool. Yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was his first time he shot dope, but
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: so much, madam, I mean, we can't go wrong.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, we'll get to that.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: I just read the Charlie intercept for interject the Charlie
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Sheen book, and he talks about the first time he
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: smoked crack. Yeah, and the first had of crack he
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: took in his whole life. He was getting a blowjob woman.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: The way he describes it, I'm like reading it and.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: He says, the greatest failing ever And then you think
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: about all that. Then he fucking tore his whole life down.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: But like shotgun on this first yeatitude and me and
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: him will tell you about it all the time at
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: the end of the day, I'm not willing to pay
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: any consequences. It ain't that I didn't enjoy getting high,
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like I like the feeling
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: that I got. It took me out, It separated me
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: from everything at quiet, did my brain down, like it
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: did all the things I wasn't, you know, consciously or
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: subconsciously thinking about where I fit in anywhere with anybody.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: I was just chilling hook up with the girl. No no, no, no, no, listen,
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: here's the funny thing about me too, is believe it
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: or not, back then, I didn't have as much self
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: confidence as I do now.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: I know who I am, what I got when I
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: bring to the table.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: And but like younger, I didn't I had no idea
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: how important comedy was. I had no idea how important
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: being funny was. And and I never looked at myself
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: as like the handsomest guy in the room. I still
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: say today, I call myself the second look guy. Which
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: so when when you know, when you guys walk into
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: the room with your little beefcake bodies now and your
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: tight shirts and stuff, you know a lot of times
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: a girl look over and go wow.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: He looked at him and they right away.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: The first time exhausting.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, for you, it gotta be.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the first look they give you the like they
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: someone looks. And when I walk in the room, they
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: don't look at me the first look and go, damn.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna see that guy later.
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: But the second look when I sit down next to
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: them and we start talking and and you know, we
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: have an intellectual conversation and I'm making them laugh.
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I talk about laughing them right out of their pant.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Excuse my French, you know what I mean.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: So she might, she might, more importantly, Katie Weinberg might
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: listen to this.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, Damon Weinberg's wife.
• 41:15
  Speaker 10: I'm actually Damon Weinberg.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Hi Katie, how you doing, Katie? I love my wife.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: But yeah, So sometimes, though, Damon, this is a fact
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: people men who are funny. Sometimes it's more important than
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: how they look.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: I think probably a larger percentage of it, right, But again,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: I had no idea.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I'm fifteen. I don't know that stuff.
• 41:35
  Speaker 12: So he's just jous because I have detailed memories of
• 41:43
  Speaker 12: my family loving me as a child, and he's my
• 41:46
  Speaker 12: mother never hugged me.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Your mom's great, he's great.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the different kind of story.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, cold, oh yeah, great and cold.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: You know, unless you don't have her last name, then
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: she's a very loving, caring woman or a grandchild if
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: you're a grandchild. Even some of them still get the you.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: Know are we Yeah?
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, yeah, my mom hugged me. She was like
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean home, and and I felt
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: that I didn't. I don't, you know, look up today
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: and want to you know, she don't like me as
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: much now today, but that's different.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah I know, I know, and she likes you. So yeah.
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: Anyways, so I I she was probably attracted me at
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: the time, idn't obviously.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I can't remember the girl's name. I
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: can't remember the girl's name anyways, that's not that was it?
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Dude fifteen smoking me that first time and then being
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: at Jayas's house was like my thing. And then what
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: would happen is I would like, you know, my father's
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: like again no Korea man, so he's trying to make
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: ends meet this and that, and I would wind up
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: like calling home at like nine o'clock at night being like,
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: oh hey, I have no way to get home.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: And so sometimes if you.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: Know, later on he would be like all right, walk home,
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: I don't give a shit, or like I'm coming to
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: get you, or other times he would just say, okay,
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: stay over there, I'm not coming. I'm not getting out
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: of the house to come get you. Now, like not
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: fully understanding. We had like no real supervision or none
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: of that stuff, you know, I mean he didn't really
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: pick up all the bad things. I was still getting
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: a's across the board in school, like minor bullshit behavioral stuff,
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: but nothing that would raise this major red flag of like, hey,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: your kids fucked up.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: Over down in the other city.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: So I took advantage of it, and I would play
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: that cod as much as I could and try and
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: like call a little bit later to try and get
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: those times to be able to be out and and
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: just utilize them to to just start getting fucked up.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: And wait, is this like uh harder drugs have come
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: in now? No, not even close, dude. It's it's it's alcohol.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: And I found out quickly I'm not a good drinker,
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: nor do I like it that much. And so I'd
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: be like kind of fucked up, and you know, I mean,
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: it wasn't like, you know, I didn't rip the band
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: aid off and start you know, I wasn't like a
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: daily drink or anything like that.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: But you know, fifteen going into sixteen is.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Really where we you know what I mean, where like
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: I was introduced and I just started like figuring out
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: like I got something out of it, you know what
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: I felt more comfortable and had.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: A better understanding of of like being funny and sort
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: of being you know, the center of attention when it
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: came to some stuff.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: And so it was a relief for me to do that.
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: And so I kind of like hung onto that and
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: and pressed the button a little bit when as I
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: as I was in Malden and and and started going
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: up to high school, I started hanging out more and
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: more with the Malden kids, and and uh, that was
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: really like where the weed came in like regularly. And
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: for me, that was like my first love. That was
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: like my first real feeling of like comfortability and like
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: escape and like all right, I'm good, Like I don't
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: get like I didn't. I never really like the pills,
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: the sloppy drunk stuff. It was never my thing. I
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: wasn't really a big fan of the feeling I got
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: from any of it. But the weed was like literally
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: like I all right, this I knew and I like
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: almost immediately when I started smoking weed, you know, semi regularly,
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: I was like I could do. I'm gonna smoke with
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: for the rest of my life. This is what I'm
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: supposed to do, you know what I mean. I didn't
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: think for a second that I'd stop or that it
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: would go any in any worse direction.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: My wife always says that when she was around that
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: same age, she used to always say, I'm going to
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: be you know, eighty years old on the front porch
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: smoking a blunt, you know, and drinking a forty, Like
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: this is what I'm going to do with the rest
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: of my life.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, literally felt the same way. And you know,
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: you know that the high school time is like was
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: real exciting and really really fun with all that stuff
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: it because then we started we started dabbling and doing
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: some other stuff like nothing crazy, but like during that
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: time is really when we started kind of getting into
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: the hallucinogenics a little bit, right, you start having the mushrooms,
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: the acid, you know what I mean, that that kind
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: of stuff, and dude, we were like literally having fun
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: like I was like having a blast. I don't know, Like,
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: but you're doing good in school this whole time. Yeah,
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: there's nothing with.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: No little effort. It with little effort.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: And already at this point in time, my whole life,
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: I've had some sort of work, right, Like as a kid,
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Selling newspapers or delivering newspaper is.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Once I got into my teenage years, I started doing
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: like I was working at like stopping shop, and then
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: like I got a job.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: At at Demino subshop in Revera.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: No, it's so funny, said, Oh my god, so funny
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: you say that Deminos.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: Well, there's just don't be confused because there's a Domaino's
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: and a Dominos.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know which one you're Yeah, one of them.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: My friend's family owns it, and I've never been there,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: and he keeps telling me to go there up until
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: like a couple of days ago. I don't know if
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: it's Dominos.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: So it's probably Domainos because I think Demino's the subshop itself.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Is closed now, so it's Demeano's.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: To me, d I M I n O is Deminos?
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: That was the subshop? That which one has? Like the
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: crazy pizza good.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: That's Dominos to me. M A, I n oh, you
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: you're talking about Demeano. Yeah, they're they're kind of more
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: of like Domino's restaurant and like byway Revere And this
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: was Demino sub Shop on the way down to the
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: beach across from Suffolk Down's when it was still yeah,
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: it's kind of still there.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: And so like when I and and so like I
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: have no matter, so right, So now look at my parents.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: Are looking at me.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: Good grades in school, nothing crazy, couple little minor behavioral bullshit.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I got suspended a swear and I like just nothing
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: like real like eye opening, like this something wrong with
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: your kid. And I'm just mixing in and I'm not
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: coming home like real fucked up and at all anyways,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: because I'm only smoking weed, you know what I mean.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: So, and back then you had actually smoke real weed.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: You didn't have like vape pens and shit, so you stunk.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: Like you like that's all I had to do vizine
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: and cologne to to kind of cover up and make
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: sure you came in all right. And and again they
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: weren't really looking for anything for me at that time.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: And you know, for me, It was sort of a
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: natural progression with all the hustling I always did, and
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: all like one hustle to the next. Like I even
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: considered selling newspapers like hustling. I was making my own money.
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: It was like my own little business. I'd be on
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: a corner selling papers, getting tips and like you know,
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: doing like uh little schemes like I back then they
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: had those those pull open machines where you put a
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: quarter in it you take a newspaper.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Out, even if you would take them all, yeah, put
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: a quarter in and take out ten. And then I'd
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: sell them.
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: And then like the you know, the street rep would
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: come by and I'm like, oh, I sold this, so
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: you I mean, I was always always figuring out how.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: To make money.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Oh let me let me say this to so to
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: touch again on the game lifting. It's always been a
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: problem for me. The pitching coin things is one thing.
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: When I was a kid, you could go to the
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: store and buy cigarettes, loatery tickets all that ship for
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: the neighborhood store for like family and bring them home.
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: I found a scratchcker when I was a kid. I
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: can't remember how old it was, it was, you know,
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: probably like forty bucks, a winner someone dropped, and it was,
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: you know, back in the eighties, a lot of money.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I remember going to the store and cash the ticket.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: I spent every dollar buying scratch tickets and yeah, it
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: was fucking wild, dude, right, So and lost the money,
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: every bit of it, dude, every bit of it. The
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: pitch and the coins, all that stuff, Like I I
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: like it, you know, knowing my my grandfather was a bookie,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: Like I was always interested in criminal like stories and shit.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: It was like I was always attracted to that for.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: Whatever reason, and and it just it's lived inside of
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: me and just grown, you know what I mean. So
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: you know, when I'm doing this other stuff, my natural
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: progression when I started smoking weed was like, Okay, I
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: smoke weed, other people around me smoke weed. I want
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: to be the one to get everybody in the weed,
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: so at least I get my weed for free, and
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: trying and and start trying to hustle that way, right
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: and again maintaining the job.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: So it was like, you know, uh, but never.
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: Having money, right, never having money doing all this stuff
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: and just still never having money, you know what I mean.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: A monkey can't sell bananas, but for whatever it's worth
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: that at that age and into high school and getting
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: out of high school, I started whatever I got my
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: hands on that we were using, I was trying to
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: sell it. I was trying to be the one who
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: had you know, more of it and and was able
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: to sell it to my friends. And even though that
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: didn't really work that really that well you know what
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: But yeah, like I was. I was into that.
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: And as things started going through high school, like more
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: stuff started coming in to play, Like more stuff started
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: coming in for stuff to try, like I got. I
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: I wound up sort of like barely getting out of
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: high school, even though like grades were fine, Like I
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: was starting to have like a few more problems in school,
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: just behavioral and bullshit it and then what was your
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: shop accounting?
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Ah makes sense?
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh even in school I had a big I
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: was getting in trouble and they're like my mouth was
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: always right, and checks my ass couldn't cash. And you know,
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: when I first started there, I felt the need to
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: kind of like you know, pop off and the plumbing
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: department was all the tough kids mad. He wasn't that,
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: but something happened at this No dude, he wasn't there yet.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know about much, but you know.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: We have Wait, so when you were a senior, you
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: would have been a.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Freshman right then. I was so, yeah, he would you
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: knew him in school?
• 50:49
  Speaker 8: No?
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we again, we just you know, but we at
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: that point, I'm taking the Malden bus. I'm hanging all
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: with all the kids. I'm kind of almost done with the.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't. Hey, I haven't gotten that far off
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: the deep end. I'm still marijuana and and like hallucinogenics.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Dude, I haven't really started. I didn't dip into.
• 51:09
  Speaker 4: Like, yeah, dude, this kid, this kid was already showing
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: up at the corner bar and they knew who he
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: was and they were serving him at seventeen, you know
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: what I mean.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: You know, for me, I hadn't really jumped off the
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: deep end.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: But uh, it was just a combination of things like
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: coming out of high schools really with things like that.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: That timeframe, I like sort of went to college for
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: a semester, Like we had a program in school. I
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: thought I tested out of my accounting class and I
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: sat at north Shore Community. I missed the KLEP exam
• 51:39
  Speaker 4: by like two points, but I'd already stopped going to
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: the accounting class like and everything was just at that
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: point the rec became far more important to me, like
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: just enjoying time with the friends and smoking and like
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: I said, always hustling and selling some stuff and always
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: kept the job. So like there was nothing ever noticeable.
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: And I hadn't even gotten into any hot substances yet,
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: so I wasn't even in the stage of that I
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: got to when it when it came to, you know,
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: needing to find ways and means to get more, but
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: all along the lines too like that, and the reason
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: I never saved any money, like the hustling either went
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: to drugs or gambling, right, it either went to to
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: playing cards with the friends, buying scratch tickets, going down
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: the track like you name it.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Like this, just before casinos were even a thing around here.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: You couldn't, not even in Connecticut, there was nothing open
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: at that point in time. But you know, we would
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: always find I'd be at I'd be at Townline gambling
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: with my friends, playing pool like anything, you.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean. You know, it was always like.
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: Woven into the fabric of my life, and uh, it
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: really never got any better.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: For me. So you're a hustler. Yeah, you could call
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: it out of just a fucking lose.
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: Of because like I was never like I didn't have
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: any big scores or wins or hits, so like you
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like not that I that was
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: you know, worth remembering any ways, but it was another escape.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: It was another like opportunity to to to.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: You know, for the synapses to go off about about
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: the failing. The crazy thing about about gambling, what they
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: say in some of the research I've done on it
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: and what it does to your physiological body is that
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: losing is actually more valuable to the brain than winning it.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I've heard this before. It's wild, you know what I
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: mean that letdown.
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: Is it actually gives you feeds you more in the
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: physical nature of the disease than winning does, which is sick.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: I've heard that before because it's really hard for somebody
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: who does not struggle with that addiction or gambling to
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: understand why you would ruin your whole life.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: The winning's never big enough. No win is have a
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: big no matter what I get. If I put a
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: thousand and one ten thousand, I should have put ten
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: thousand and one one hundred. But when you lose, you're like,
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: oh my god, I just lost it all that fucking Yeah.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: I have a good friend of mine who had banned
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: himself from DraftKings. Yeah, and he's got so bad that
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: he found himself betting on Russian ping pong at three
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. I did like a thousand dollars.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Korean baseball, Yeah yeah, especially during COVID when
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: everything was shut down.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: He was so addicted to it and you had to
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: find those.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: During COVID, they started doing waffles of those things.
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: So it's a raffle, but they couldn't call it a raffle.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, they'd be like sneak of waffles
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: and waffles.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah it was.
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: But yeah, so so like then, once I got out
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: of high schools really where things started kind of going
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: a little bit crazy because I get again, I've continued freedom.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: I'm still living at home.
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: And you know, things start to kind of pop up
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: in the life with opportunities to do other things.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think what I think I did.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: Coke was like the first like hot drug that I tried,
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: and uh, I just decided one night I was working
• 54:47
  Speaker 4: at the subshop, and that's it, Like I mean, it's
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: a it's an environment where you know, we're drinking, getting high,
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: doing drugs, like all sorts of shit.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: At the subshop.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: There's a bunch of anything from you know, twenty to
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: forty year old people in the building whatever, little younger anyways,
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: teenagers up to forty forty five years old in varying
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: stages of working and using. And so it was an
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: easy environment between that and and you know, graduating high
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: school with the friends I had, like just you know
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: what I mean, to be able to sort of graduate
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: into the next step. And for me, the first thing
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: I would try was coke, and I don't know, I
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: was probably I wasn't probably like.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: I think eighteen nineteen by the time.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: I tried coke, but I loved it right away and
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: it just was immediately took over my life like anything
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: else like it Like it was just I was completely
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: sucked in. And at my job, you could you could
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: go to the boss from Wednesday on during the week.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: We got paid on the last day of the week
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: that you worked, and it was like basically always cash.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: So if you worked until Sunday. On Sunday, you got
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: your check was in cap whatever the hour was where
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: you got it. But from Wednesday on you could go
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: knock on the window and borrow money out of your check.
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: Oh so like you know that, you know, I'm sure
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: ho is like that whatever, you know what I mean,
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: and you went in. That's the kind of times it
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: was back then, Like they knew a lot of people
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: living paycheck to paycheck and whatever.
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: They even with us kids.
• 56:10
  Speaker 4: You'd go in and let me get forty bucks out
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: of my check and they just record it and then
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: all week could get whatever is left out of your paycheck.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: Some weeks nothing, dude.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: And uh so, yeah, we just started like you know
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: how that goes, man Like, we started with that stuff
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: where we're going out to different boss clubs and whatever
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: and on a weekend, and then it turns into longer,
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: longer weekends start you know, Friday night, Thursday night. Then
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: the bos come out of it, like you know what
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: I mean. Now you're just getting beers and bringing them
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: back to the apartment and all that stuff. And dude,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: we had like a lot of fun like getting into
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: all that stuff. Like I said, we used to have
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: like potties at like a couple of guys I hung out.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Where we're older too, like and so those.
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: Guys were getting apartments before someone like you know what
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: I mean. So like we had all these options of
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: like you know, places to hang out on supervis as
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: like young adults and get fucked up and some of
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: the you didn't really need to buy or anyone none
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: of that stuff, like all the stuff you could do,
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: like we had a connections for this connection for that whatever,
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: and you know, it just kind of like began a
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: path of like fun but like a pathway of destruction, you.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean. And like I literally spent I
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: don't know eighteen to.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: What was the first time I tried to get clean.
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: I can't even remember twenty something as old, dude, My
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: entire I was like I was late twenties before I
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: even thought about getting clean, dude, like almost thirty. Yeah, dude,
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: it was like that, like we were just fucked up
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: having fun and I was going through different jackpots.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: Just think about it.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: I got the fucking I got the bug for gambling,
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: and I got the getting high things. So I just
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: never no matter how much money I had, it, never
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: had money. But like at that point, like you know,
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: not to glorify anything, but like now I start selling
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: lots of drugs right like and mostly like the weed.
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: Like I was just you know, me and a couple
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: my buddies. We got connected with some people and you
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: know we were you know, had access to.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Massive amounts of marijuana, which also.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: Led me to have like cash flow, but never really
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: have money, you know what I mean. I was always
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: chasing every fucking time I could have I could have
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: ten thirty.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: Then I was chasing because I owed somebody money. I
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: had to do this.
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: I was trying to Like it was just always I
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: was never okay, and it was never enough. And I
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: wasn't even like a good for lack of a better term,
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: a good drug dealer who like banked money. I didn't
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: have a shoe box full of anything. I didn't have
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: a savings account. I didn't have retimement built up. I
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: had none of it. I had like what else can
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: we do.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: With this today? Yeah? Like what the fuck we got
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: going on today? He didn't love.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: They didn't live the drug dealer's dream, which is, you know,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna sell drugs, make a bunch of money, and
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go legit and the I'm gonna invest.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: This money and then leave it behind. You know, very
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: few can do that.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure I met any, you know what I mean,
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: they're between I'm really not sure I met any. But dude,
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: at some point, like you know that we talk about
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: like the pill heads and stuff like that. That's how
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: I used to call them, like I but I would
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: mostly look at people like that that were taken like Klanapenzianic.
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: I never fucked with those with those things, right. And
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: then I don't know exactly what happened, but one of
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: the guys in my work, one of the managers, just
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: started in like.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Pike Perks and Vikes Perks and Viking in.
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: And I got introduced h at one point, like I
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: got sick of the coke. One day, we were sitting
• 59:28
  Speaker 4: there and this is I believe it or not, sitting
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: there we had a CD full of cocaine, and I
• 59:32
  Speaker 4: was just like, dude, I don't want to do this.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck I'm doing.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: I literally got up and took a taxi home, Like
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: I left my buddy's house and went home, and like
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: I was like, all right, I'm out, and I like
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: stayed away from coke for like a good period of time.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: I don't have like any sobriety tape for it, but
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: I was like I had, I had that feeling of like,
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: all right, this isn't what I want to do. And
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: then somewhere along the lines in my late teens early twenties,
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: the viking in perks were introduced, and.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: I just fell in love.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: Man, I fell in love and I took a couple
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: and the same thing happened with me that with everything else.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: I was like, okay, And this was right before the.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Oxycontins, so late nineties, yep, yeah, yep, so.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we just got like and then I would
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: just be eating handfuls of perks of bikes.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: And then the same thing. I wanted to make.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: Sure if we if we need them, who can get
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: me three hundred vikes? Who can get me four hundred?
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: But like whatever I could do, I just wanted because
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: probably because I wanted to hustle, and and the failing
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: that people with my friends, because they were calling me
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: for drugs, and on the other side of like always
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: wanting to make sure I had something for myself, always
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: wanted to make sure I didn't have any idea about
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: with jaws or any of that stuff at that point
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: in time, and we just went deep, dude, and.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: You started selling a lot of the pills, yeah, perks
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: and bikes yep, yep. You want to stop right there? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: So this is probably a good chance that the first
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: Viking ins that I ever took came from you.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: Oh boy, I mean, essentially, I'm serious because often this Yeah.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Well, because the story is that I was living at
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: my friend's house and I was only I think I
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: was fourteen fifteen years old, Jesus Christ and the kid
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: that lived on our street, who I would not name,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: but you know who he is, I think, and he
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: went to the vogue and he had a bunch of
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: vikings and he would sell them for five dollars apiece,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: and so he gave we bought one or two from him,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: and we loved him so much where every week my
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: friend's mom would give us each two point fifty a
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: day for lunch, and we would save it and starve
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: ourselves all week. We had ten dollars each to get
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: two vikes on Friday night, and I remember he had
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: these big bags of vikings.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know either. You got him from him or
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: he got him from you one the other day.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: We can talk off here about the names of.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Nameless over there. We don't want to drag anyone through
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: the mud. Now. Oh no, no, we might still be
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: selling perch for all we know. They could be. I
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: don't know me. Yeah, so so then what happened?
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: I met in handfuls now a day of vikes and
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 4: Perksian not kid, not a.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Care in the world, And what do you know? Happens?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: The oxy Cantons are around and I'm I don't have
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: any I don't have any perks, I don't know anything,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: so I'm stuck. One day, my buddy's got them and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: uh he says, hey, dude, and I'm like sick. I'm like,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: at this point, I have an idea why I'm sick.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: And he's like yo, and I was like, I no, no,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: I don't want them to do with that. I'm good,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: I don't but I'm sick. I needs I don't know
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: what I'm gonna get. I'm gonna pick up any any
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: vikes a perks. So he's like, yeah, i'll give it you,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: but you gotta sniff it. And I was like, no, no, no,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: I'm good. And I convinced him to finally give me
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: a piece of it, and and like literally they used
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: to call it getting jammed. That was like the first
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: time where like I had taken that piece of of
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: the oxy that my buddy had and I like literally
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: it hit me like hotter than a handful of bikes
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: of perks did.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: And I was like, wow, this is what they talked well,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: like getting jim Like I was.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: Just like on the couch like in the Abyss shilling Man,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: not a care in the world, and uh.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: God, you bring me back, dude.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: I know I'm not trying to glorify it anyway, but
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: just as a matter of sharing the story, right, And
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: so that was that was that one time. And then
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 4: I was like I want I don't really want anything
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: to do with this, you know whatever. So I just
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: kept doing my thing and the next time that I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: ran out of that time, yeah, dude, listen, here here's
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: how I didn't. I'll tell you how how good my
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 4: friends were back then. I ran out of perks and
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: bikes again. Another time, my buddy go to my buddy again.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: I said, hey, He's like, yeah, you can have it,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: but only for sniff it.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: A good friend, and I.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: Had already known how much I had liked coke before,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: so I was like, I don't want to do this,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: but you're sick, You're sick, and so I went yep,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: and that was like a hole new level.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: That was it. Perks and vikes could not could not
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: come near that thing ever again.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, are you bringing me back?
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: You know, this is this is an honest space, right,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: And I can't remember when I started, you know, injecting.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: Drugs iv us, right.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: There were there were times when people would come around
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: and I'd say that, They'd say I want to sniff it,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: and I'd say, well, I'm not. You can't have to
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: do it my way. And it wasn't it wasn't so
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: much that I wanted to get them into that. I
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: just honestly believed it was better. Yeah, you know, and
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: I look back on that and I'm like, fuck, shame
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: on me. Yeah, how many people did I introduced that too?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that takes me to my to the to the
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: you know obviously that grind that that's is.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: It the naked thing yet because I'm still waiting on
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: being there. I know, I don't know if we have time.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: We're gonna have to do a part too.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, the naked in the halfway house came
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: after you got clean?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: Or no, the naked in the halfway why.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's kind of tough to call myself clean
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: when I was naked in a halfway house.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: Right right, you were probably trying to get clean. I
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: was clean and I was trying to get high.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's saying normal clean people don't overdose naked in a.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Half I'm curious about this story, but I'm wondering if
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: we should hold it for I think.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: We should because it's you know, we're hitting a fifth grade.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Now, he's through high school, through the parks, now into the.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: Just jumped into Yeah, yeah, I'm in the oxy cont
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, we should definitely pause.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: You want to pause now?
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: I think it makes sense because you know, this is
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: really if you want to call it gets good or whatever.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: But I mean I thought the whole thing was good.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: I know that's okay. We're an hour hour on the podcast. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: they're probably done with me anyways. No, people love the
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: long podcast. Do you think they love my sultry voice?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah, Well, maybe you get some talkbacks.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: I let us know if.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: They if listen, if you like, if you like Damon's
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: voice and you want to comment on it for.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: Sure, Yeah, just be careful because Katie went my comment
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 4: on it.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we know. Yeah, she's always there.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 10: I'm actually Damon Weinberg's wife.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's always is she gonna listen to this?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: I might tell her to you know who definitely listens
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 4: to it.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Matthew's sister. Oh yeah, oh yeah, my sister Anne Annyanny.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: You know you could bring her in sometime.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: I'll bring her.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: You can bring in anybody you want. That's amazing, bring
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: in anybody. We love the idea of that. Yeah, all right,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: we'll pause there. So we got up until like early
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: two thousands. We're just the start of OC's okay, all right,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: I knew I knew you and a need to party.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I kind of did.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: You can't tell your your story in detail, in such a.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: Short detail like I can do the Abridge version when
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: we got a ship when you know, if I'm in
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: a situation, got it.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: But but here you're not talking in front of you,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: speaking to an audience, but you're not sitting in front
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: of a bunch of people with a time limit. You know,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: we can really talk all day.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: But yeah he can, I know, act like you're not
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 4: how to talk of that's the crazy. He's like, oh,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: I don't want to do this, and then it's dragging
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: him out of something.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: He's because he's a social butterfly.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: Email. I'm working.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Is that what you call it?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Always working? Always working? So part two next September when
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: you guys come back?
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: Right? Who is that Mikey V that's the guy, right,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: the guy, Mike is the man.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's that's the boss. Is he on the phone
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: in there?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: He's always on the phone. Ay, he's a businessman. Look
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: at the hand.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one hair. Cool Mikey story. Okay, listen to this.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: Better than the Louis Vuitton. Den I'm sure he's wearing.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: He's so mad right now. He's so mad that Mikey
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: has that and he doesn't. Do you think that's real?
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: Mind?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: You think it's real? The Louis Vuitton, it's Mike should
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: have bought too.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: The only one I'd be sure about if it was
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: real is if Lisa was wearing it.
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: That's definitely right, you know, it's.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: He's a he's kind of a.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: Cheap prick in a nice way. You mentioned that.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very tight. He's he's very generous, but he's
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: very tight with his money.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: I know a guy like that. No, not him, you No, No,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that. No, no, you know what he
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: used to do.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: My favorite thing he used to do is he would
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: tell everybody he had the fake easies.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Not all they're fake. I got him. Mikey's a fake.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: He's his word.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: He used to make people feel better because he would
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: tell him no, no, no, they're fake easy. That got
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: him from you know, whatever website or whatever. I'd be
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: looking going this motherfucker.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: See, Mikey tells Mikey's our fake, and he'll tell you
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: they're fake anyway. Cool, fight the funny Mikey story. So
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: we have a new boss here, right, he's not the
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: guy you met that's the regional books.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: Right, we have a new.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: Boss in the build, like a legit program director. No, no,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Dan's the program director. And then this guy is like
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: the operations man. Oh okay, big does he sit above Dylan?
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: He does? Wow? Yeah he does. But on the sales side.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: Sure, okay, So he moved here from wherever he came from,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: gets hired, moves here. So Mikey sells houses. He built
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: in Cell's houses, right, So he was selling a house
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: and need him. He knocked it down. He built it
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: him and his partner. They had it on the market
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: for months. They had a buyer. It was back and
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: forth negotiations, da da da da. So they're about a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: week or two out from closing on this house. Now
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Mikey doesn't talk to the buyer. It's all done with
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: the lawyer. So this guy gets hired, comes in, he
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: works here for a couple of days. He walks around
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: to meet everybody. He goes in to meet Mikey and
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Mikey says to him, where are you moving to? Guy
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: goes need him, No way. He's like, what part of
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: need him? And he says the street. Mikey goes, what
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: house It was Mikey's house.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: No way.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: I had no idea and the guy was like, no way.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: So now he lives in the house that Mikey. Uh,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: that isn't interesting. Yeah, mike is a cool story because
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: he grew up Him and his brother grew up very poor.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: Like you know, he definitely v bros. Yeah, you know
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: there the dad has passed on or whatever. I mean,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: they're a decent life, middle class. They didn't grow up
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: with all this money, you know. So that's why he's
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: he's kind of like you in a sense. I guess,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: you know, just hustling, hustling, hustling.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Never enough, because that's where we came from.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so Part two and s September Power Recovery.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: What do people need to know? You can visit us
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: at power Recovery dot org.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: We're having a big blast on September thirteenth celebrating Power
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: Recovery in Chelsea's you gonna make it?
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: Is my I was gonna say, where's my end?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: It's a personal invit. You just got right here right
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: Noptember thirteenth. It's a Sunday, so yeah, we don't I know, I.
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  Speaker 2: Know what time? Excuse me? What time on a Sunday?
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: Home dude? No, I want it.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: I have a this is a running joke in my family.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: I have a thing about Sundays. I like Saturday things.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: But starting the day it.
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  Speaker 2: Is, yeah, it's like a twelve to three.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's more Sunday night things. Okay, So the thirteenth, Yes, sir,
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: all right, I'll put this in here. Can I bring
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: my fan?
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, We're gonna have all sorts of stuff with the kids.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: It's way more like slides, face painting, yeah, all that.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, we actually, you know, we're gon.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: We're got a guy, but you know we can't afford him,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: so you have to donate his services.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: I popped the GJ at my wedding. How that goes like, well,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: you know, you got twelve thousand. He goes, No, I'll
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: do it, you know, for this amount of money. But
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: just so you know, I don't DJ until the very end.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: I go, you talking about He goes, well, I send
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: my guy in for the first like three hours, and
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: then I come in the last hour and I just
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: shut it down. I go, it's not a fucking club.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Playing music. Yeah, yeah, that's a lot. No, I don't
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: do that. We love I love. Yeah, that's just what
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: he does. You know, he just he just went down
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: three notes.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: On playlist on my phone.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: And the last dude, the last guy that we just
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: had over there that we loved, he had a bunch
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: of mashups. He already already he can't We just didn't
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: alumni he.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 5: Didn't even a microphone.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: Who was it?
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 4: I forget that DJ CAZy yeah, my Keysy, I don't
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: forget whatever John I think it was. I got to
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 4: know if you want it. But he had all these
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: mashups he's already done on tables and he showed up
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: because it was not like a big table event.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: But he brought a.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: Speaker in his phone and he plugged it in. But
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: the music was fantastic. It's like, oh, we love this guy.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: With a lot of DJs do that. Yeah, they played
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: pre mixes. Of course, popped up would actually mix. He
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: just didn't want to do the formal stuff. That's what
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: it is. He wanted to do the dance. Yeah, welcome
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: to the party, and you know the first dance it
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: comes mister and missus justin. Oh no, I didn't say that, right, huh.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's Gary. Yeah, no, it's not a it's
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: a Gary. Yeah. Technically, for most.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: Of my life I thought it was a guy. And
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 4: then somebody like a year or two ago, said your name.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: It was like, wait a second, Well.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: You know the story there when when I was a kid,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: third grade, second grade, I was first day of school.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: No, I was.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: It wasn't somebod names a G. So I'm always first
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: on the list, you know. And so first day of school,
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: the class starts and they go, okay, attendance Justin a Query.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: So for the entire Yeah, dude, my name was a query.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's he's still a query.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: But who's counting.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So the next year, first day of school, I
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: went to the teacher beforehand and I said, just so
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: you know that the Q is it's not a cue,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: it's a G. It's a guire because they couldn't say
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: a Gary. So I said it's a guire. And then
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: I became known as Justin a guire.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: See, I'm now I'm not good. I don't feel bad
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: at all because I don't hack up names. Right, I'm
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: really good.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: There's two rs. That's why it's a Gary. I get
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: a you know, if there was one R, it would
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: be like Mark McGuire, it would be a guy.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Thanks for explaining that. Do you look a look at
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: his face because it's not about him today.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: No, he gets a bank email on me back and forth.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: He's doing both at the same time. I do appreciate
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: because Maddie, he didn't do he didn't do as bad
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: as I thought he was going to do.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: As far as he did he was how you know
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: he was honest, legitimately working because of that. Yeah, he
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: would have been a little bit more involved if his
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: phone wasn't blowing up.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: I promise you.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get Mikey in here assment. If
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: that Louis Vuitton is real or.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: Not, why don't we take what so you take bets
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: on it? I'm going to say no, but I.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 3: Hope, I hope they wouldn't put anything out like that.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: You are you are you?
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: We're gonna guess that it's real or fake or I don't.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: He'll tell you, he'll tell, He'll tay, he'll say.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: You it's a it's a fucking Canadian tuxedo.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Dude. Yeah, dude, what's the matter that people have taste? Man? Differ?
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: It's just right.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: So I'd rather not play the game.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: Okaymon, I think it's real, You think it's real, I'll
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: say fake.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Hold one second, right, he's coming in right now.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: To turn the microst first second to talk to him,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: because we have inter That's how we do that, Mike.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: We got to give him damon, Uh, Mikey, we need
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: to know what that Louis Louis Baton you got on?
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: Is that real or fake? Fake?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: I love the honest man, he said you wouldn't hesitate
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: and say exactly what?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: Love the honest? Yeah, okay, yeah, I love that. Trus
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: I can't be fixed that real stuff like that.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 5: You can both relate. Now, he's a v bra man.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Leave alone. Do you have on today? No? I got uh?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: They all Saints like comfortable favorite but they're comfortable. Yeah,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: they're comfortable. Are those real? Yeah? These are from All
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: sas Okay, okay, I'm not that's because they have money.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not sneaker.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: That's what I'll say that All Saints is the quiet
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 4: way of telling the people is.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: That somebody with a wide fucking foot, they want to
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: wear a decent you want to do summertime, you want
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: to do this.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 5: It has nothing to do with how much cost?
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: How much does it cost? What? Just a shoe? If
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, I.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: Don't even know because I didn't buy them.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: I'm curious on the All Saints thing, I've never heard
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: of all not like super High and not supers.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: It's like all same T shirts everybody wearing.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: I think, So, what's the price on those Sneaks.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: Shoes probably one hundred and fifty. Oh that's nothing. Hundred
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: two hundred. If we go, I probably got out Norseman's rack.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: So okay, not you. Yeah.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: My mentality on clothes, jeweler, everything unless unless it's gonna uh,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: if it's a decreasing in value, I don't need.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: To buy it. Yeah. See, he's a hustle of this.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 12: I don't.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: I don't do that. My knuckles a reel I got
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: for free. The local guy made it. My watch is real.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: I can sell at any moment and make it more
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: than my money back.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: Besides that, I don't care.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: Mikeys a house in Saugust. Oh really ye yeah, August guy. Well,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: Chelsea guy moved to saugusta kinda make that clear?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, clear, look at my I kids.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Chelsea you know right?
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, yeah, he doesn't live there, that's events out.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it makes sense. I wouldn't either.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Mike, Well we're serious about your thing, man.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a big fucking debate and ham Yeah yeah.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: Thank you, we appreciate it. I appreciate it, thank you.
• 1:16:48
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• 1:17:02
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• 1:17:04
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  Speaker 2: I don't like him. Thanks, I don't like him at all.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: It's your guy, right then? Due thanks what we do? Yeah,
• 1:17:23
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• 1:17:25
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• 1:17:25
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• 1:17:29
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• 1:17:31
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• 1:17:47
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  Speaker 2: Don't think it's necessary. I think I'm moving along just fine.
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