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A Modern Family with Nina Mas · Cristy M. Diaz Podcast Conversations from the Heart

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Hey everybody, welcome to Mamas in Miami
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and happy Monday. Today we are going to
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try third times a charm to invite Nina
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back into our feed. She's going to be
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speaking to us about her family's
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journey as we continue the celebration
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of pride here this month on Mamas in
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Miami. Um we are going to attempt to
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invite her third times a charm. Like I
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said, we're having a little bit of
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technical difficulties.
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I hope everybody had a happy Father's
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Day. For those of you that were
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listening in to the uh prior moments
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before, I took my husband to the Justin
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Timberlake concert for Father's Day.
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Probably not where he wanted to be. Um
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but he was a trooper and we ended up
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having so much fun. The concert was
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amazing. We definitely felt our age. Um
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I self-proclaimed my section, the uh 40s
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and over section. As um a lot of you
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know, we've been following him since his
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in sync days, which were like a
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bajillion years ago. And I felt like
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there was definitely
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more older people than younger people at
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the concert, but nevertheless, we had a
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great
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time.
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Here we go.
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Nina. Nina, instead of inviting me to
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join your feed, do it the other way
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around. There you are. Hi. Hi. How's it
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going, Christie? Good. How are you?
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Third time's always a charm.
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Oh, don't worry. Uh we once Lizzie and I
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discussed um how my brother had to come
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and give me a whole lecture of how all
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of this stuff works and of course you
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know what can but thank you so much for
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for joining us today. Thank you for
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having me. I was um just mentioning
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before that you and I probably know each
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other through Miami's infamous three
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degrees of separation or less. I
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wouldn't be surprised. Um, so I'm so
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grateful that we had somebody in common
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that put us together because I'm so
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excited to hear about your family story.
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Why don't you start by telling us a
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little bit about yourself? Sure. Sure.
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Um, so my name is Nina Moss. I am a
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physical therapist. So that's why I'm
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here in my office right now. Um, I'm
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actually I specialize in women's health.
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So it's a lot of pelvic floor
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dysfunction, like pregnancy and
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postpartum, all that fun stuff. Um, I am
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married. I have two kids, very tiny. I
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have a almost two-year-old and a
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six-month-old. How are you managing
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that?
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Am I managing is more the question. Um,
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it's fun. It's fun. Everyone's just
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telling me this two shall pass. So, I
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think that's the mantra, but honestly,
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no. It's a great time, but it is
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definitely crazy. We have two under two.
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So, you know, if you have any uh advice,
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I'm I'm here for it.
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And I must say that when my second child
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came, I feel horrible saying this out
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loud. She still doesn't have a baby
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album. Um, she's 10 years old. She
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probably never will. And I don't
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remember her first two years of life
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unless they're on a video camera or a
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picture camera. I feel a lot better. And
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you know, funny enough, I'm the youngest
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of four, and I'm pretty sure I have no
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photos of myself when I was younger. And
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my mom said, you know, you're just
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you're lucky you made it through. So,
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yeah, you're here, you're standing,
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you've got all your limbs. And I think I
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now understand what she was talking
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about. I mean, you once they're both
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going to maybe preschool, you're kind of
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you start coasting. Oh god, that's like
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the scary part we're in. We're about to
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start school. So, the trauma,
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I promise you, it's going to be the
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greatest thing ever. You're going to be
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able to go to the grocery store and
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there's not going to be little hands
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grabbing Oreos and cereal
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and throwing them in the shopping cart.
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That you are a physical therapist. And I
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have to ask, I'm sure there's many in my
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position that we just smile and nod.
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What the hell is a pelvic floor?
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Welcome a picture.
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What are we looking at?
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Pelvic floor is anything that sits
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inside your pelvis. So connected to the
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back. We see the hips and it's basically
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everything in red. So I love it. I think
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it's an excellent career. We help I I'm
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mainly based in women. So yes, men do
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have a pelvic floor. They just don't
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like to talk about it as much. Um uh
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women do have more pelvic floor
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dysfunction. So it's anything. It could
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be back pain, hip pain, pain with
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intercourse, um any sort of leakage,
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issues after menopause, hysterctomies
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when you're pregnant, postpartum. It
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like runs the gamut. So, it's it's
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something I I got into and it's like a
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passion of mine. So, I love it. Is that
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something you always knew you wanted
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that specialty? Oh, god, no. I thought I
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was going to be into sports and I played
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soccer all my life, so I was like, you
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know, I had no the furthest thing from
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it.
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So funny. So, how did that come and how
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does that help when you now are on this
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path of when you started your your
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family and you knew everything about the
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pelvic pelvic floor, did that influence
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how the baby was carried or the nine
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months of pregnancy leading up to it? I
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can't wait till you speak to my wife who
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did all of that work. So, my wife was
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pregnant, Lindsay, both times. Uh, so
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she carried and she is also my worst
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patient thus far um, classically. So she
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actually had great pregnancies
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throughout. Would I love for her to take
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my advice? Yes. Will she? You have to
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ask her when is her around. We both have
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our our opinions about that.
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But so we're going to um share your
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family story in two 30 minute sessions.
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That's how we work at Mamas in Miami
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because we never have more than 30
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minutes of time to dedicate to listening
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to something for ourselves. So, we will
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save all those questions for your wife
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Lindsay when we speak to her on
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Thursday. But for right now, you
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mentioned that you are the mama of two
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under two. Amen.
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Amen. And they're about to start school,
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correct? The almost two-year-old, he's
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about to go into school in August. Yes.
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Oh my goodness. So when you went to
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start looking for a preschool, um did
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your have any influence on the school
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you chose? Meaning are you prepared for
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the possible backlash of you know the
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two mommy situation and what kids might
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say at school and have you kind of
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thought about how you would navigate
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what could happen in the future? Of
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course. I mean I think Lindsay and I
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have had these conversations over and
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over and over again. Um, I think it's
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easier said than done because once you
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are in the situation, how you react
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might be differently. Um, I think that
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was a big part of our search for schools
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in general. We wanted to make sure that
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I want my both of my kids to be in a
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school environment where neither the
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staff nor the parents bat an eye on the
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fact that there are two moms to whatever
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students involved, whether it's two
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dads, two moms, whatever it might be.
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Um, so that was a huge factor in us
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deciding on schools. Um, but yeah, here
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at Miami, did did you find any negative
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uh feedback when you started the
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process? Um, we've been touring schools
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and honestly, everyone's been super
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great. I think if anything, it was more
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so confusion and we just uh, you know,
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we're pretty swift in general just to
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correct it. uh not to make anyone feel
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bad but just just so there's clarity in
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terms of what what the what the
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situation is, what the dynamic is. Um
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and on the contrary, I feel like when
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things are awkward, the best thing I can
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do to help out is just give clarity to
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the situation. Um and I think that
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honestly it eliminates a lot of the
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awkwardness and a lot of the questions
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when you just go outright and state it.
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Sure. And your children, I'm sure, know
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better. Oh god, no. I think my son Mateo
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calls everyone from myself, my wife, the
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nanny, my mother, everyone's mama. Oh,
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so sweet. How old is Mateo? Is he older
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or younger? Mateo is older. He is about
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to turn two in July. And then we have
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Maya, who is six months. Oh, that's
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amazing. Oh, you are in the thick of it.
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What um strategies are you going to
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implement in terms of um just being out
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in the community with after school
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activities? Are you going to look for a
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community that's like yours or are you
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just going to try to integrate into, you
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know, the traditional
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um is there a community out there of uh
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where somebody can say I want to, you
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know, expose my children to a family
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structure like mine and we're going to
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go here so that they see what they see
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at home. Yeah. You know, luckily for us,
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we do have a really good friends group
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um with a lot of same couples that they
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already do have kids. Our kids are a
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little bit younger in the whole group.
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So, honestly, we feel lucky in that
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sense that they've kind of like done the
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work ahead of us. Uh they often give us
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good advice. Um even on schools and
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things like that. You know, we asked a
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few questions on certain schools and
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they said, "Oh, you know, maybe look in
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this direction." Um, which was super
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helpful for us because honestly we we
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were clueless going into it. Um, but in
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terms of honestly like those challenges
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in terms of community and everything, I
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we feel really lucky in the sense that I
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I've never felt backlash in that sense.
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Um, I do feel like we have a good sense
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of community in our friends group. Um,
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and when we do meet, you know, strangers
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or whoever who have questions, like I I
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have just have no problems answering it.
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that sort of want to educate and expose
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because really at the end of the day I
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think knowledge is power. So if if you
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don't know I'm sure you are a little
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sketched out or you do have questions.
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So I'm I'm happy to answer. Yeah. And I
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also so part of the reason why Lizzie
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and I opened Mamas in Miami is because
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we realized everybody has a with you.
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Lizzy is not here with me now. But
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Lizzy, so you'll have to hear how it we
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birthed this because now I'm starting to
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think my pelvic floor had something to
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do with what happened to me. I had a
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level fusion two months ago. Oh, yeah.
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And I uh it was a result of a birth
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defect. I didn't know I had in my spine,
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but I'm pretty sure that pregnancies
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made my vertebrae slip forward even more
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and more and more until it finally got
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to where it got to and ended up in
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surgery. Lizzie helped me preop for this
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surgery. Wow. Oh, Lizzie since I was 10
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years old. So, we kind of bird this
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together in the Pilates room saying, "I
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wish there was a fly on the wall that
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was recording our conversations because
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Liz and I couldn't be more extreme in
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our parenting skills, but we all the
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commonality and we all ended up in the
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same place." And we said, "You know
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what? If this is you and me who could
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not be more different in our approaches,
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I'm sure that if we opened a platform
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for every mom to give their story, we
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would all end up in the same road to the
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end to the same end story to the same
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end game. Absolutely. And I ask
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questions like a first timer off the
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street too and forgive my ignorance if I
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say or you know mean something
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incorrectly or I have to backtrack
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because we're all just learning here,
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right? Yes. a thousand%. And I mean,
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look at my world in the pelvic floor.
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Like, all I do is answer questions all
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day long. So, this is nothing new to me.
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There's no TMI in my world either. So,
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So, you're the pelvic floor specialist.
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Uh, Lizzie wanted to talk to, so she may
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be calling you. I love it. I'm into it.
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I can't
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Well, I'm going to leave her to talk
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pelvic floor talk with you, and I'll
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keep asking my
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questions. You see, there's the three
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degrees of separation I was talking
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about.
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wondering what where this is going. Good
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to know. Oh, that's so funny. Okay, so
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back to my questions because I have a
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list, right? So, um, one of my other
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questions would be, what advice would
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you give to a two female household who
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did come across somebody that maybe
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wasn't as welcoming or had criticism or
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I mean, have you ever had somebody come
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up to you on the street and say
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something negative?
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You know, thankfully, no. I I do get um
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a lot of just questions of h you know
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how did you create a family is is the
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main one and uh or just how does it
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work? I didn't know that was possible
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which you know it just gives you a great
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opportunity at the end of the day that
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that's how I take it. Um you know of
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course there's I'm sure negative
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connotations and maybe just um confusion
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and and not the most proud way. Um, and
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in that case, honestly, you know, we we
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you do come across it within family and
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within things like that. And I think the
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best advice I can give to those people
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who maybe just aren't into this or have,
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you know, negative connotations is
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really, you know, happiness looks
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different for everyone. Um, and really
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at the end of the day, if you know, if
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if it creates peace of mind, it creates
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happiness. At the end of the day, we we
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only have one life. I think perspective
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is everything. So if you living your
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life in a certain way that might be
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different than the cultural norms, let's
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say and it doesn't harm the other
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person. You know what more can you ask
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for? You know, I think in life you're
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going to meet people where agree to
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disagree is probably your best bet. And
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you're not always going to meet in the
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middle with someone. Um but it it
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doesn't steer me away from being kind to
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anyone, you know. I think being kind and
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considerate and just a a mutual level of
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respect is everything whether you agree
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or agree or disagree.
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Amen. Was you did you have a supportive
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family?
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Um for the most part yes. I think it was
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more so you know it was a rough start.
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Um only in the sense of again just
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confusion. It was a lot of unexpected.
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They didn't see that one coming. Um, so
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it just takes a while and I've learned
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that if it took me so long to feel
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comfortable in my skin, I have to think,
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God, how long is it going to take them
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to come around? And then when you do
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when at least in my background in my
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personal experience when you do have the
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you know you're in the right my like
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mental space to actually say it and and
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be honest with yourself you have to give
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them time and grace to come around to it
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you know and I think that is tough uh
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for a lot of like you know same-sex
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couples just someone coming out whatever
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it might be it's just remembering that
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it's a shock for everyone. Sure. Um, so
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yes, we want everyone to come around as
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quickly as possible, but that's just not
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the reality of life. Sure. Sure. But now
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they have grandbabies, so they must be
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over them. Not I mean, they now they
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have grandbabies. They talk to Lindsay,
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my wife, more than myself, so what more
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can I ask for? That's so funny. So, I
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have a question, and it might be more of
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a cultural question for the
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CubanAmerican community.
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So, I remember that the first question I
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got asked by my grandma who passed away,
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who I love and adore, was when's the
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baptism, right? So, my question to you
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is, how do you navigate religion um in a
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same-sex household? Um assuming being
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CubanAmerican yourself, you were
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probably raised Christian or Catholic
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and Exactly. going to church and mass on
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Sundays and I'm sure you got the
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question about religion for your kids.
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How are you going to navigate that if
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you don't mind my asking? Yes, my mom
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and I talked about it just a few hours
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ago actually. Yes. So, born and raised
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Catholic. Um, your classic Cuban uh
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Catholic families, the whole bit. Um,
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you know, we talk about this all the
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time because my mom did want us to
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baptize our kids and still is asking.
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Um, and it's just something that, you
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know, I I laid it out here plain and
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simple is, you know, at the end of the
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day, it's unfortunate because with a
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baptism, they don't recognize two
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mothers. So, you would actually, you
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know, on the little certificate need to
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pick one mother and then go from there.
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And then that's, you know, it's just
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something that we're not comfortable
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with. And it's principle more than
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anything else of why are we going to be
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part of a of a religion that just
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doesn't accept us as a whole as a unit
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as a family. Um and you know we Lindsay
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and I talk about this a lot in the sense
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of yes we were born Catholic. Uh are we
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so locked onto our religion? No. Um do
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we both have you know spirituality in
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us? Yes, a thousand%. Um, I think
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there's so many other religions out
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there that in our perspective are just
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maybe a little more accepting, a little
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more broad, um, that don't require so
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much, you know, rigidity in their
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beliefs and in their practice. Um, so
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and and for that reason, I I tell my
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mom, you know, at the end of the day, if
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they're not going to recognize two moms,
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do you want us to be a part of it? You
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know, it's tough for her because she's
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like, I just think it's a beautiful
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tradition. And so my response to that is
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we talk about well why don't we choose
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another tradition within the Catholic
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faith that we both can agree on and that
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we can hop on you know all together with
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our kids or we just create new
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traditions altogether because at the end
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of the day we all believe in the same
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things it's just how strictly are we
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going to follow and how did she
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um I think she took it well you know at
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the end of the day I said do you think
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our kids are any less close to God let's
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She goes, "No, absolutely not." So I
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said, "Perfect." Like then what more,
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you know, what more can I ask for? Like
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you love our kids. I love my kids. So
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does, you know, the big man up there. So
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right, the way we practice is just is
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subjective.
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So I assume um have you found a
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religious community that you feel
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comfortable practicing your faith in or
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not yet? You know, not so much. I mean,
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we do feel like we're spiritual, but do
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we attend mass all the time? No, we do
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not. Um, so, no, nothing specific.
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Um, you know, I'm not sure what we would
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align with. We do talk about it
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sometimes. I think like, um,
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Episcopalian is probably the closest
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thing that we both fall on the same page
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with. Um, I laugh because my mom also
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told me about 30 minutes ago that she
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quote unquote self-baptized our
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children. And I just found this out
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right now. She poured holy water on them
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one day when they were babysitting. That
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is so funny. You know, it's
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like my my grandma wanted to do
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something a little similar with uh two
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of my
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nephews like what if we just go to to
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the you know the church on Saturday and
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while they're over somebody's house. I'm
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like no you can't do
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exact well I have the holy water and I
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was like well if it helps you sleep at
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night you could bathe I'm okay with it.
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Sure. Sure. And I'm sure that you know
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you do talk about um spirituality and
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faith with your children and you just
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what you kind of like just mold it to
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something else. Do they watch Veggie
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Tales? You know, it's tough because
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they're they're too small. You know,
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right now
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we're on on Re. So
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that's as mature as we're getting right
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now with Matteo and we still have a blob
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with Maya that she's six months.
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We haven't crossed this path yet. I'm
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sure it's coming. Um, have we prepped
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for it? Not quite.
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That's interest. I I love that you're
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telling me all this because these are
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questions I've always had, but I've had
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nobody to ask. Yeah. I mean, I wish
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Yeah. Everyone asks all the time, "Well,
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how are you going to do it?" I said, "I
20:41
don't know. How are you gonna do it?"
20:42
They were like, "I don't know. We just
20:43
figure it out when it comes." I said,
20:45
"Exactly the same." you know, I I I wish
20:47
there was a better recipe or formula,
20:49
especially in our case because it's um
20:51
maybe not so typical. So, but um but no,
20:55
I I mean, same idea. We kind of just
20:57
like we'll figure it out as we go. I
21:00
love your dog. The It's
21:03
popcorn. She's like our unofficial
21:05
mascot here. She She loves to be on the
21:07
podcast. Um, the commonality here, no
21:11
matter who, what, where, what color,
21:13
what size, whatever it is, the
21:15
commonality is that when you have a
21:17
child, it doesn't come with an
21:18
instruction manual. Oh, God. No. And
21:21
that's because every single family is
21:23
unique. I always say this and you have
21:25
to grab from everywhere and mix it in a
21:28
bowl and pray to the gods that it's
21:30
going to work out for you. Oh. Um,
21:32
because you there's not one sizefits-all
21:35
in inations.
21:37
of no that's Jewish and Catholic even if
21:40
it's heterosexual family they still have
21:43
to navigate waters that there's no
21:45
instruction manual for also oh far from
21:47
it and I think that's when a lot of the
21:50
struggle comes in too is when we even
21:52
talk about u the way we went about um
21:56
conceiving the kids and how that might
21:59
conflict with religion too gets a little
22:01
tough for many people and many families
22:03
as well but for the most most part it
22:05
sounds like your family was very
22:07
supportive considering, you know, yeah,
22:10
at the end of the day, they they had
22:13
questions regarding a donor in that
22:14
process, but um and what do you call it?
22:17
What is he? Who is he? Can you see him?
22:20
Um does he does he exist? Is he in the
22:24
cloud?
22:25
If I don't I don't I don't know. Um
22:29
yeah, it's more so I I asked him, "Well,
22:31
how much do you want to know?" and I'll
22:33
tell you, but uh otherwise like look at
22:35
your grandkids and they don't we don't
22:38
even think twice about it, you know.
22:40
That's amazing. Um what do you have any
22:45
support groups or websites or
22:50
um group uh Facebook groups that you
22:52
rely on when you have to for example
22:55
investigate how are we going to approach
22:57
spirituality? How are we going to
22:59
approach you know a bully at school? Is
23:01
there some a go-to that you're using to
23:03
right now for research? You know, I
23:06
really lucky because it's it's our
23:07
friends group at the end of the day. Um,
23:10
you know, it's actually all of my my
23:12
wife's friends that they've just adopted
23:15
me. They're all a little bit older and
23:18
they all already have their family. So,
23:20
really that is like who we fall back on.
23:22
We we're able to have these
23:24
conversations. we feel comfortable and
23:27
and just and being very honest and if we
23:29
do disagree, you know, what do you
23:30
suggest? So, we always kind of go back
23:32
and forth and and we feel most
23:34
comfortable with that. I mean, I wish I
23:36
could provide or I had more resources
23:38
locally in the community that I know
23:39
about. Um but we feel lucky in that
23:42
sense that we do have a good group
23:43
locally and and we hang out all the time
23:45
and yeah that that's our that group is
23:48
constantly growing and
23:50
evolving and this this day and age or is
23:53
it like your set group like your core
23:56
you know it's it's like the typical
23:58
group. So you have to remember too that
24:01
I'm younger and how old are you if you
24:03
don't mind? We're 10 years apart. So, so
24:07
Lindsay, it's funny when we talk about,
24:09
you know, how we grew up and the whole
24:11
like how did you come out and what is
24:13
your community? Lindsay talks a lot
24:15
about, you know, well, we had to rely on
24:18
each other because there really wasn't
24:19
anything else. Um, whereas I grew up a
24:23
little bit more so where everything was
24:24
already out in the open, a little more
24:26
fluid. I go out and there really are no
24:28
specific, you know, let's say, you know,
24:30
gay clubs or bars because everyone is
24:33
who who who they are regardless of of
24:36
how fluid that is. Um, so it was kind of
24:39
everyone already is is is mixed up where
24:41
it wasn't so isolated or so far removed
24:45
maybe a decade prior to that. Sure. Do
24:48
you feel like in Miami your family is
24:51
more representative in in all in the
24:54
whole? Like do you see more families
24:56
like you here in Miami as opposed if you
24:58
would move out of the state or out of
25:00
the city?
25:02
That's tough.
25:04
Um I feel like are you saying my
25:07
immediate family or uh your your core
25:10
family unit? Do you feel representative
25:13
represented in Miami or do you feel like
25:15
you would have maybe a bigger community
25:18
to draw from if you left Miami?
25:20
You know, we also talk about this.
25:23
Um, I think I used to think we would
25:26
need to leave in order to truly feel
25:30
like I, you know, I can just walk out of
25:32
the street, no big deal. No one's going
25:33
to look, no one's going to ask. Um, but,
25:36
you know, it's all the people you meet
25:37
and it's all the community that you
25:39
create. Um so you know over the over the
25:42
years you do meet other similar couples
25:45
other same samesex couples
25:47
that you end up like you know finding
25:50
each other and then you stick with it
25:51
which is nice and then that ends up
25:53
growing from there and I do feel you
25:55
know since we've had a family since
25:57
we've been married that the circle does
26:00
open up and you start it just starts
26:03
branching out from there
26:05
whereas maybe five six seven years ago I
26:08
was thinking oh god we have to go to
26:09
California immediately. But Nina, don't
26:12
you feel like that's a Miami thing, too?
26:15
I feel you sit down and you meet a new I
26:18
just met you and I'm when we hang up,
26:19
I'm going to ask you like when do you
26:20
want to get together? Because I feel
26:22
like you and I have known each other
26:24
forever. Clearly, we've been in the same
26:25
circles forever, but you leave Miami and
26:29
you don't get that vibe. And I don't
26:32
know if it's the commonality of our
26:33
culture and the way we grew up and the
26:35
fact that Miami is like this big. Yes. I
26:37
think it is is it's such a cultural tie.
26:41
Um, which is such a plus and I feel like
26:44
in in my world that um there's just more
26:47
acceptance. It's just an easier way to
26:50
way to accept and way to feel a sense of
26:52
community, which yeah, I totally agree.
26:54
I think if we had to start over in a new
26:56
place, maybe culturally it would would
27:00
be easy as a same-sex couple because
27:02
maybe there's just a lot there, but I
27:04
don't know how close we would mesh.
27:06
Whereas in Miami, yes, I think the six
27:08
degrees separation goes down to two half
27:10
the time and it just makes it that much
27:13
more simple. So, I I think you're
27:15
absolutely right on that one. Well, just
27:17
like I told you, 30 minutes flies. That
27:19
was 30 minutes. Wow. I feel like we
27:22
didn't even scratch the surface. You
27:25
I'll come back at any time. Bring
27:26
coffee. It's so funny. So, Lizzy's
27:29
probably in route back from her big
27:30
European trip. She's taking Willie
27:32
overseas for the first time. And we
27:33
can't wait to hear how that went for
27:35
her. and she had told me, "I know of a
27:37
pelvic floor therapist that I I want to
27:40
have on at some point. Wait till she get
27:42
lands and she realizes that I got team
27:45
first." On it. I'm super excited. Well,
27:48
I'm so excited to um share your wife's
27:52
story with us. I'm just going to give a
27:54
little preview. Well, why don't you give
27:55
the preview for Linds Tell everybody
27:58
what we're going to talk to Lindsay
27:59
about on Thursday.
28:01
So, with Lindsay, you're going to talk
28:02
about our Beyond Modern family because
28:05
besides the fact that I have a wife and
28:08
I have two young kids under two, I also
28:10
have a stepdaughter that is turning 24
28:13
years old next month.
28:16
Amazing. I am so excited to hear about
28:19
this story. It just so happens that we
28:21
all got together at my mother-in-law's
28:23
house for Father's Day yesterday, and I
28:26
was like, "You guys, who's this other
28:28
girl in their
28:29
picture? She keeps coming out, but she's
28:32
like an adult. There's no way this is a
28:34
child." And they said, "Oh, yes." So,
28:36
needless to say, when we all go for
28:38
walks in the neighborhood, it is like
28:40
the funniest thing trying to explain
28:43
like, "Who is who? Is this roommates?
28:45
Are they sisters? Who are the kids?" I
28:48
love ultramodern family. I cannot wait
28:51
to meet you guys in person and hang out.
28:53
I can't wait. Thank you. So, Nina,
28:56
that's all the time we have for today.
28:58
I'm going to extinguish our Mamas in
29:00
Miami tribal um campfire that we are
29:03
make believe on right now with you. And
29:05
I'm just hoping everybody's coffee stays
29:07
strong and their sanity intact until we
29:10
meet again on Thursday. Thanks so much,
29:12
Nina. Thank you. Bye. Bye.