Latest / Earn Your Leisure / Pinky Cole on Building the $100 Million Slutty Vegan Empire
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- 0:30Speaker 2: And one thing about me is those who take chances
- 0:33Speaker 2: make advances. I'm a seize the opportunity if it's in
- 0:35Speaker 2: front of my face. So he was on a zoom
- 0:37Speaker 2: and I'm like, hey, Steve, my name is Pinky and
- 0:40Speaker 2: you don't know me, but you need to look me up.
- 0:43Speaker 2: And I think that we need to do a shoe
- 0:44Speaker 2: deal because there is no shoe deal in the restaurant
- 0:47Speaker 2: vegan space. And I think that this will be a
- 0:49Speaker 2: game changer and it'll be massive. And you know what
- 0:51Speaker 2: he said, He said, I love it. He said, let's.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Set that shit up.
- 0:55Speaker 2: He said, I'm gonna send you my assistant email, let's
- 0:57Speaker 2: do it. And that's exactly how it happened, all because
- 1:00Speaker 2: I opened up my mouth.
- 1:00Speaker 4: And asked.
- 1:03Speaker 5: My graduates from my school being forced back drop.
- 1:08Speaker 3: Bag drop, Mike drop back, drop drop.
- 1:23Speaker 6: All right, guys, welcome back e y L Atlanta Headquarters. Yeah,
- 1:27Speaker 6: this is something that we've been looking forward to for
- 1:29Speaker 6: a long time. Tried to make it happen several times
- 1:33Speaker 6: in the past.
- 1:33Speaker 3: But the day was January twenty one. Nothing, nothing happened.
- 1:39Speaker 3: Nothing happens before it's time.
- 1:41Speaker 6: So uh, Pinky Cole, the legendary owner of Slutty Vegan.
- 1:47Speaker 6: If you have never eate Slutty Vegan doing yourself.
- 1:50Speaker 3: With your minuts this service, let's start there.
- 1:54Speaker 6: And I've only actually had it a few times because
- 1:57Speaker 6: one of the reasons is that I always heard the
- 1:59Speaker 6: line is like on the block and you can't actually
- 2:01Speaker 6: get in the problems.
- 2:05Speaker 3: So, but just an amazing story we're going to talk about.
- 2:08Speaker 6: But you probably heard recently in the news that just
- 2:10Speaker 6: finished your series A congratulations, raised twenty five million dollars,
- 2:13Speaker 6: I believe for twenty four percent of the company, which
- 2:15Speaker 6: gave you a valuation of one hundred million dollars for
- 2:17Speaker 6: your brand with plans I believe to expand to twenty
- 2:21Speaker 6: locations nationwide.
- 2:23Speaker 4: You did your research.
- 2:25Speaker 3: We've been known too. We're the biggest for a reason.
- 2:30Speaker 6: You know, you got collaboration, brand partnerships, and it's just
- 2:33Speaker 6: a really inspiring story starting from you know, humble beginnings
- 2:36Speaker 6: and scaling to you know, national global brand and have
- 2:41Speaker 6: become a rock star in the space. As far as
- 2:43Speaker 6: for entrepreneurships, we were just talking about that. I always
- 2:46Speaker 6: had a vision that you know, entrepreneurs is going to
- 2:48Speaker 6: become the new superstars like athletes and rappers, and you're
- 2:51Speaker 6: definitely one of those people. Rap snacks. I believe you
- 2:54Speaker 6: have your own rap. That was a moment for Jean
- 2:56Speaker 6: Lindsay and the team over there.
- 2:58Speaker 7: We went to the headquarters and we were saying like, yeah,
- 3:00Speaker 7: we should have a bag, and then we.
- 3:02Speaker 3: Looked, yeah, I should definitely have a bad and we
- 3:03Speaker 3: saw your face on the bag. We're like, yeah, we
- 3:06Speaker 3: definitely should have a bag. So thank you for the inspiration.
- 3:08Speaker 3: And you're doing all of this while still being a mother.
- 3:12Speaker 3: You're actually pregnant right.
- 3:17Speaker 6: Eight, baby, don't worry.
- 3:21Speaker 3: We got the van outside ready to go to be
- 3:23Speaker 3: legendary moment now her at all.
- 3:26Speaker 6: So this this is going to be a dorope interesy.
- 3:28Speaker 6: So first and foremost, thank you for joining us, appreciate.
- 3:29Speaker 4: It, thank you for having me.
- 3:31Speaker 2: I watch you guys, and I'm proud of y'all, and
- 3:34Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here. And I think this is
- 3:35Speaker 2: going to be a real dope conversation.
- 3:37Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it has legendary sucking feeling. So let's get
- 3:41Speaker 3: into this.
- 3:42Speaker 6: For anybody that might not have heard your story before,
- 3:45Speaker 6: can you just you know, talk about the backstor a
- 3:47Speaker 6: little bit like what made you want to start the
- 3:51Speaker 6: Slutty Vegan franchise? What made you actually want to go vegan?
- 3:56Speaker 6: And how did you, you know, get your foot up
- 3:58Speaker 6: and running with you know what you do.
- 4:00Speaker 4: So it depends on what back mean I could go all.
- 4:05Speaker 2: So, you know, my story is very interesting and unique
- 4:09Speaker 2: to say the least.
- 4:10Speaker 4: So the day that I was born.
- 4:12Speaker 2: I was born December eighth, nineteen eighty seven, and the
- 4:15Speaker 2: day that I was born, my father was being sentenced
- 4:18Speaker 2: to thirty plus. He is in prison, so he was
- 4:20Speaker 2: getting his sentence in the day that I was coming
- 4:22Speaker 2: out the womb. So I already came into the world
- 4:25Speaker 2: with the short end of the stick based on what
- 4:28Speaker 2: society telling you. Right in Baltimore, right, So, growing up,
- 4:33Speaker 2: I saw my mother, who was raising five children, take
- 4:36Speaker 2: care of everybody right with limited resources.
- 4:40Speaker 4: She had between four to five jobs.
- 4:41Speaker 2: My mother was a musician, she worked at the bank,
- 4:44Speaker 2: she worked at McDonald's. At one point she was processing payroll.
- 4:47Speaker 2: She was doing everything. But one thing she made sure
- 4:49Speaker 2: of is that the lights were always on, that we
- 4:52Speaker 2: always had food on the table, that I ain't never
- 4:55Speaker 2: had to beg borrow still from nobody, and she always
- 4:58Speaker 2: made sure that I was go to federal prison with
- 5:02Speaker 2: my siblings to go see my daddy.
- 5:04Speaker 4: Right.
- 5:04Speaker 2: So here I am growing up, going to hagerstowness Up, Maryland,
- 5:09Speaker 2: having a little wan as a kid, being limited to
- 5:13Speaker 2: two hours at a time to see my father. But
- 5:16Speaker 2: what it did it was teaching me a valuable lesson
- 5:19Speaker 2: that ain't nothing in the world like freedom. So throughout
- 5:22Speaker 2: my life I aim to get the level of freedom
- 5:26Speaker 2: where nobody had to tell me what to do or
- 5:28Speaker 2: I didn't have to answer to nobody, And that is
- 5:30Speaker 2: how I became a hustler. So in high school I
- 5:33Speaker 2: started throwing parties. I was the youngest promoter in Baltimore, Maryland.
- 5:37Speaker 2: I was selling.
- 5:38Speaker 4: Candy, frozen cups, mc chickens, you name it. I would
- 5:42Speaker 4: sell for real.
- 5:43Speaker 2: I would go to McDonald's and buy m chickens for
- 5:46Speaker 2: a dollar and come back in the cafeteria in high
- 5:49Speaker 2: school and sell them for two dollars. My mindset was
- 5:52Speaker 2: make money, create opportunity, make people feel good. And I
- 5:56Speaker 2: did that throughout the years. And when I graduated college.
- 6:01Speaker 2: When I graduated high school, I saw Ludacris on TV
- 6:04Speaker 2: and I'm like, Oh, he's at Clark Atlande University.
- 6:06Speaker 4: I'm going there, and fast forward.
- 6:09Speaker 2: My entrepreneurial journey just continued to rise and rise and rise.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Went to Clark Atlanta, became Miss Clark and Lande University.
- 6:17Speaker 2: Packed up my bags. After I graduated, moved.
- 6:20Speaker 4: To Los Angeles, California, because I had these big.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Dreams of being an actress. Staddict work out, but I'm
- 6:24Speaker 2: glad that the didy. And while I was in LA,
- 6:27Speaker 2: I got an opportunity to work as a television producer
- 6:30Speaker 2: a PA at the time. And if you know anything
- 6:32Speaker 2: about TV, like you gotta be really really good to
- 6:35Speaker 2: get promoted.
- 6:36Speaker 4: So one thing I know how to do well is
- 6:38Speaker 4: run my mouth.
- 6:39Speaker 2: So while I was in LA I was working as
- 6:41Speaker 2: a production assistant and I got a call to work
- 6:44Speaker 2: in New York, packed up my bags, moved to New York.
- 6:47Speaker 2: While I was in New York, became a producer, got
- 6:49Speaker 2: another call to work at the Moury Show. While I
- 6:52Speaker 2: was at the Moray Show, I saved up my four
- 6:54Speaker 2: to one K, and here I am twenty six years old,
- 6:56Speaker 2: don't know the first thing about four to one K
- 6:58Speaker 2: except for contribute and be money in there. I pulled
- 7:01Speaker 2: my four one k out and I opened up my
- 7:03Speaker 2: first restaurant, and it was called Pinkies Jamaican, an American restaurant.
- 7:07Speaker 4: This is in Harlem.
- 7:09Speaker 3: Much money was in your four one k that you
- 7:10Speaker 3: took out?
- 7:11Speaker 2: I had twenty seven thousand at the time, which was
- 7:14Speaker 2: a lot of money for me. Right, somebody in the
- 7:16Speaker 2: early twenties, like I was brawling, Like I.
- 7:19Speaker 3: Kind of had a time in the world.
- 7:20Speaker 4: Right, But I've always been a risk taker.
- 7:23Speaker 2: So I pulled it right, not knowing that I was
- 7:25Speaker 2: going to be taxed on it later, right, But I
- 7:28Speaker 2: pulled it out, got a family friend to give me
- 7:30Speaker 2: a loan, and I opened up my first restaurant and
- 7:33Speaker 2: it was called Pinkies to make it an American restaurant,
- 7:35Speaker 2: and it did seemingly well for somebody.
- 7:37Speaker 4: Who didn't know what the hell they were doing, right.
- 7:40Speaker 2: And when I had that restaurant, I had a grease
- 7:43Speaker 2: fire after about two years, and I want to stop
- 7:46Speaker 2: here because that was like the best thing that could
- 7:48Speaker 2: have happened to me, because it propelled me to be
- 7:51Speaker 2: able to create what we now know is Sludy Vegan
- 7:53Speaker 2: because what looked like failure wasn't failure to me at all, right.
- 7:57Speaker 2: It was really an opportunity to say, Okay, all right,
- 8:00Speaker 2: this look a little fucked up, but I'm gonna do
- 8:01Speaker 2: this again, and when I do it again, it's gonna
- 8:03Speaker 2: be right.
- 8:04Speaker 4: And it was right.
- 8:05Speaker 2: Because after I lost everything, car, got repolled, got evicted
- 8:08Speaker 2: out of my apartment, went flat, broke, failed relationships, I
- 8:13Speaker 2: got an opportunity to work as a casting director. And
- 8:15Speaker 2: the reason why I'm telling y'all this story because I
- 8:17Speaker 2: want to make it full circle, right. So I got
- 8:19Speaker 2: an opportunity to work as a casting director in Los
- 8:22Speaker 2: Angeles on a own network show. And while I was there,
- 8:25Speaker 2: they're like, Pinky, we need you to go to Atlanta,
- 8:27Speaker 2: and I'm.
- 8:27Speaker 4: Like, I don't really want to go to Atlanta. Like
- 8:29Speaker 4: I went to school there.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Yeah, my sorority sisters are there, but that's not where
- 8:33Speaker 2: I want to be. But I did it, and I
- 8:35Speaker 2: was only supposed to be there for three months, y'all.
- 8:38Speaker 2: And when I went to Atlanta, I was in my
- 8:41Speaker 2: bedroom and I was hungry and I wanted some Vegan
- 8:44Speaker 2: comfort food. Now I'm like, y'all, I am a conscious thinker.
- 8:47Speaker 2: I'm always trying to feed myself, always trying to learn more.
- 8:50Speaker 2: So at the time, I was running every single day,
- 8:53Speaker 2: reading a book every single day. Right, everybody told me
- 8:57Speaker 2: I was crazy. I just knew that I was preparing
- 8:58Speaker 2: for something. And when I was in my bedroom, Sludy
- 9:01Speaker 2: Vegan hit me like a light bulb, Like no rhyme,
- 9:04Speaker 2: no reason, no like precursor, no nothing. It just hit
- 9:07Speaker 2: me out of nowhere, and I'm like, Damn, that's a dope,
- 9:10Speaker 2: b add name. So I called my friends up and
- 9:13Speaker 2: I'm like, what y'all think about this name? And it
- 9:14Speaker 2: was like, I love, you need to do something with it.
- 9:16Speaker 2: So I went to Google and I went to YouTube
- 9:18Speaker 2: and I just started researching and what I realized is
- 9:21Speaker 2: I didn't know.
- 9:22Speaker 4: The first thing about burgers and fries because I'm jamaking.
- 9:24Speaker 2: Right, So like I didn't grow up eating that, but
- 9:27Speaker 2: this was something that was missing in the marketplace, coupled
- 9:30Speaker 2: with an experience.
- 9:31Speaker 4: So no business plan, no real plan.
- 9:34Speaker 2: I just started researching, opened up this ghost kitchen, and
- 9:38Speaker 2: literally the rest is history.
- 9:41Speaker 7: There's a lot to impact that. There's a lot because
- 9:44Speaker 7: obviously the background in TV. Is that what you studied
- 9:46Speaker 7: when you were at Clark Was it audio engineering and
- 9:49Speaker 7: TV production?
- 9:50Speaker 3: Well?
- 9:50Speaker 2: I was supposed to study that, but I never had
- 9:52Speaker 2: an intern ship in my life.
- 9:54Speaker 7: So how do we shift to culinary? Is that something
- 9:57Speaker 7: that you have been doing growing up? Obviously being in
- 9:59Speaker 7: a Jamaica home that like especially like my mom cuts
- 10:01Speaker 7: all the time and I could cook a little bit.
- 10:04Speaker 7: Somebody argue that, but is that something that you just
- 10:06Speaker 7: naturally would gift to that being a chef.
- 10:09Speaker 4: I ain't no chef.
- 10:10Speaker 2: I really don't think I can cook that well, like
- 10:12Speaker 2: I think you know, my food takes good to me.
- 10:14Speaker 2: But I didn't go to school to be a chef.
- 10:16Speaker 2: I have no formal training and it really just happened
- 10:19Speaker 2: that way, And that's what life does right, Like life
- 10:21Speaker 2: just happened sometimes and it became a passion project for me.
- 10:24Speaker 2: So when people call me a chef, I'm like, yoall,
- 10:26Speaker 2: I'm not a chef. Like this is just a passion
- 10:28Speaker 2: project for me. And TV was something that I fell
- 10:32Speaker 2: into that I became really really good at. So I'm
- 10:35Speaker 2: happy that I got the opportunity to work in TV
- 10:37Speaker 2: because what happened was is it taught me how to
- 10:40Speaker 2: meet people where they are. One thing that I can
- 10:43Speaker 2: do really, really well, is I know how to connect people.
- 10:45Speaker 2: I don't care if you make a billion dollars, I
- 10:47Speaker 2: don't care if you make five dollars. I can put
- 10:49Speaker 2: everybody in a room and make everybody feel welcome and
- 10:52Speaker 2: like they are important. And I learned that working in TV.
- 10:55Speaker 2: So I coupled my TV experience with the fact that
- 10:58Speaker 2: I'm a foodie and I love to eat, and I
- 11:00Speaker 2: merged those two most pleasurable experiences in life.
- 11:03Speaker 4: That's sex and that's food.
- 11:05Speaker 2: And I built this concept to make people love it
- 11:08Speaker 2: even if they didn't like the name. And literally everything
- 11:12Speaker 2: has been up from there.
- 11:13Speaker 6: So let's talk about this ghost kitchen situation. Shots to
- 11:16Speaker 6: my boy Nacho Benger. He's the first person on our
- 11:18Speaker 6: platform talk about Ghost Kitchen, another Baltimore native. So ghost
- 11:22Speaker 6: Kitchen is very interesting and a lot of people still
- 11:25Speaker 6: aren't really familiar with ghost kitchens. But from my understanding,
- 11:29Speaker 6: the ghost kitchen is you don't have a physical restaurant,
- 11:32Speaker 6: but you have like, let's say, like an industrial kitchen,
- 11:35Speaker 6: and out of that kitchen you can cook and have
- 11:38Speaker 6: your food sent on Uber Eats or door Dash. And
- 11:41Speaker 6: the good thing with the ghost kitchens is that nobody
- 11:43Speaker 6: really knows, Like when you order Uber Eats, you don't
- 11:46Speaker 6: really necessarily know where you're ordering it from.
- 11:48Speaker 4: Even though where you're ordering what it looked like, it clean,
- 11:50Speaker 4: nothing what you take.
- 11:52Speaker 2: But the good thing about ghost kitchens, and it's funny
- 11:55Speaker 2: because when I came to Atlanta, they weren't really familiar
- 11:57Speaker 2: with ghost kitchens. They're like, what's this And I'm like, listen,
- 12:00Speaker 2: they do this in La. You know, La was a
- 12:01Speaker 2: little bit more advanced, and I'm like, they do this
- 12:03Speaker 2: in La, let me duplicate it here. So I was
- 12:06Speaker 2: like the guinea pig in Atlanta. And the one thing
- 12:09Speaker 2: that I liked about the ghost kitchen is is not
- 12:12Speaker 2: a lot of overhead they charge you. I mean, the
- 12:15Speaker 2: prices are different now, but they at the time they
- 12:17Speaker 2: were charging me thirty percent right to be on the platform.
- 12:20Speaker 2: I'm on uber Eats, I'm on door Dash, I'm on
- 12:22Speaker 2: grub Hub, I'm on Postmates, and every time somebody ordered food.
- 12:26Speaker 4: All I did was fulfilled to order.
- 12:28Speaker 2: What happened with Sleddy Vegan is that people started dming
- 12:30Speaker 2: me their orders and I started fulfilling on DM right,
- 12:34Speaker 2: So I'm like, all right, So now I got this
- 12:36Speaker 2: e commerce platform on Instagram that just happened by mistake,
- 12:40Speaker 2: and it actually worked out because the first week I
- 12:42Speaker 2: had about four people, and the week after that I
- 12:45Speaker 2: had about thirty people, and every single week it started
- 12:48Speaker 2: building and building. Soon after, I had between like one
- 12:51Speaker 2: hundred and fifty to three hundred to five hundred people
- 12:54Speaker 2: standing out the door trying to get food, sending messages
- 12:57Speaker 2: on Instagram. So for the people who are watching this,
- 13:00Speaker 2: ghost kitchens are absolutely a good opportunity to get into
- 13:04Speaker 2: the business if you want to do a restaurant concept,
- 13:07Speaker 2: because you can test it and don't have to worry
- 13:09Speaker 2: about putting all the risk in. Sometimes we feel like
- 13:11Speaker 2: we won't be successful until we get a brick and mortar,
- 13:14Speaker 2: that ain't the truth because brick and mortars cost money.
- 13:16Speaker 2: You gotta pay light bill, you gotta pay water bill.
- 13:19Speaker 2: If you're roof cave in, you got to pay all
- 13:20Speaker 2: of that stuff. There's so much bills that come behind it.
- 13:23Speaker 2: But a ghost kitchen will allow you the opportunity to
- 13:25Speaker 2: test your concept and if it works, then you can
- 13:27Speaker 2: move forward with the you know, all the other things.
- 13:30Speaker 3: So were you actually cooking? I was the cook.
- 13:33Speaker 2: The janitor was everything. I was accounts payable, accounts receivable.
- 13:37Speaker 2: I literally did everything, and I did everything for the
- 13:40Speaker 2: first two years of the business me items.
- 13:42Speaker 3: Did you have an a menium nine? Okay, number, So
- 13:47Speaker 3: that's a great number.
- 13:47Speaker 4: I'm a nine actually in my sorority. That's a great number.
- 13:50Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 13:50Speaker 6: Another owner from RESTAURANTWN from Baltimore said he keeps it
- 13:53Speaker 6: at seven. Well, we can talk about that later on.
- 13:56Speaker 6: We talked about the restaurant. But okay, so let's get
- 13:59Speaker 6: this sleg conversation going. So you have an idea to
- 14:02Speaker 6: have you can buy sex with food, which is interesting,
- 14:07Speaker 6: and then you give these dishes like names, like can
- 14:10Speaker 6: you talk about some of their names?
- 14:11Speaker 3: Absolutely, let's start with my favorite.
- 14:14Speaker 4: What's your favorite?
- 14:14Speaker 3: The Fussy has It's my favorite, easily listen.
- 14:18Speaker 2: When I created this concept, I'm like, food needs personality.
- 14:22Speaker 4: Right.
- 14:23Speaker 2: I don't know about y'all, but when I go to
- 14:24Speaker 2: a restaurant, I eat with my eyes. But I said,
- 14:27Speaker 2: how about making people not only eat with their eyes,
- 14:30Speaker 2: but eating with their ears too, So when they hear
- 14:33Speaker 2: the name of the food, it makes.
- 14:34Speaker 4: Them like, oh, what is that? I want to try it?
- 14:36Speaker 2: So we have the one night Stand, which is our
- 14:38Speaker 2: most popular burger, right, and the one night stand is
- 14:41Speaker 2: the patty with the bacon, the sauce, the onions and tomato.
- 14:45Speaker 2: But like, when you think about a one night stand,
- 14:47Speaker 2: what do you think about? Like, are you fork experience?
- 14:49Speaker 2: It happens once. It's crazy. It's kind of taboo, and
- 14:52Speaker 2: everybody wants to be a part of that taboo experience,
- 14:54Speaker 2: which is why it is the number one seller.
- 14:56Speaker 3: Right.
- 14:57Speaker 4: Then we have the Sloppy.
- 14:58Speaker 3: Toppy Sloppy to I.
- 15:00Speaker 2: Don't know if kids watching this, but I'm sure we've
- 15:02Speaker 2: all given or received some slippy copy.
- 15:04Speaker 4: Right, So it's tax.
- 15:05Speaker 3: True, true to the taboo mine that may yeah, taxed
- 15:10Speaker 3: into that culture and.
- 15:13Speaker 4: Literally black people it's all people.
- 15:18Speaker 2: Then we have the fussy hussy what you love, and
- 15:20Speaker 2: that's like the all American, right, Like you go to
- 15:22Speaker 2: a McDonald's, you go to a Burger King, everybody got
- 15:25Speaker 2: a sandwich with pickles on it, right, But we have
- 15:27Speaker 2: a plethora for plethora of names of burgers. But I
- 15:30Speaker 2: really specifically did that because when you come to my restaurant,
- 15:34Speaker 2: I don't want you.
- 15:34Speaker 4: To be like, well, let me get the one number
- 15:36Speaker 4: four with the five and nah.
- 15:38Speaker 2: I wanted you to remember this experience so that by
- 15:41Speaker 2: the time you leave, you thinking about it, and then
- 15:43Speaker 2: you're telling people like, damn, I remember when I went there.
- 15:45Speaker 2: I specifically had this, And what it is is free
- 15:48Speaker 2: marketing and advertising. For me, I've never had to pay
- 15:51Speaker 2: for it because people like y'all who come to my
- 15:54Speaker 2: restaurants like, yo, you have sluddy vegan, like I gotta
- 15:57Speaker 2: go try study vegan, and I had the one night stand.
- 15:59Speaker 2: You should try it. Guess what they do? They come
- 16:01Speaker 2: to slightly began and say, you know what, my friend had,
- 16:03Speaker 2: what's that one night Burget that one night stand?
- 16:05Speaker 4: Let me try that.
- 16:05Speaker 2: And that's how it's worked, and that's how we've been
- 16:08Speaker 2: having lines down the block.
- 16:09Speaker 3: It's like, what's that spot in Miami? They call me
- 16:11Speaker 3: a cab all of that on South Beach Willis Willillies.
- 16:16Speaker 7: Yeah, or in you know former alumni, our dudes from Tennessee.
- 16:22Speaker 7: Oh yeah, slim slim, very similar. They infuse hip hop,
- 16:27Speaker 7: you infuse sex. Yeah, absolutely, both cultural favorites.
- 16:31Speaker 6: So okay, so you got a nice thing going with
- 16:33Speaker 6: this ghost kitchen situation. You're building up traction on social media,
- 16:37Speaker 6: you're making money. What's the next step?
- 16:39Speaker 3: Food truck?
- 16:40Speaker 4: So yeah, so there was a lot of next steps
- 16:43Speaker 4: in between that.
- 16:44Speaker 2: But I was in this prep kitchen and they told
- 16:47Speaker 2: me that I had to leave because I had too
- 16:49Speaker 2: many people coming, and the tenants were upset about it,
- 16:52Speaker 2: and I'm like, well, what am I supposed to do?
- 16:53Speaker 3: Is it just you and the prep kitchen still with
- 16:55Speaker 3: the five hundred people outs.
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- 18:24Speaker 2: Yeah, it's me and the prepkitchen, and then there are
- 18:26Speaker 2: other tenants. So you know, a prepkitchen. There's probably like
- 18:29Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty people that are registered to this unit,
- 18:32Speaker 2: and they schedule time to be in the space. So
- 18:35Speaker 2: I was impeding on their business because I had so
- 18:37Speaker 2: many people supporting mine, which was a good problem for me,
- 18:40Speaker 2: but to other people, they probably like, Okay, well, I
- 18:42Speaker 2: can't make no money if all of your people standing
- 18:43Speaker 2: in front like this. And they told me that I
- 18:46Speaker 2: had to leave. And you know, it's so interesting life,
- 18:50Speaker 2: right because now all of this is like full circle
- 18:53Speaker 2: moments to me. Even as I'm sitting here, I realized
- 18:55Speaker 2: that if they would have never evicted me, because it
- 18:57Speaker 2: was like a pseudo eviction, I would have been here
- 19:00Speaker 2: having this conversation with y'all because it wouldn't have pushed
- 19:03Speaker 2: me to have to get a food truck.
- 19:05Speaker 4: Right. I had to get a food truck, not because
- 19:07Speaker 4: I wanted to.
- 19:08Speaker 2: I never would have gotten a food truck unless they
- 19:10Speaker 2: until they put me out, and I needed to get
- 19:12Speaker 2: a food truck so that I can continue on with
- 19:14Speaker 2: the audience that I had. So I went and got
- 19:17Speaker 2: a food truck. It was a limit, let's be clear,
- 19:20Speaker 2: but it was a good limit because it made me
- 19:21Speaker 2: a lot of money. So I put ten thousand dollars
- 19:23Speaker 2: on a food truck, got it wrapped. Never been on
- 19:26Speaker 2: a food truck, damn. They never ate from a food truck.
- 19:29Speaker 2: But I needed to do something so that I can
- 19:30Speaker 2: continue to leverage this audience. But it was because of
- 19:33Speaker 2: that facility that told me that you gotta go that
- 19:35Speaker 2: made me want to do that. So like, I'm forever
- 19:38Speaker 2: grateful for them, because I'm like, you don't even realize
- 19:40Speaker 2: what you did. So with that food truck, people just
- 19:43Speaker 2: started following me from the East Side to the West side.
- 19:46Speaker 2: Three hours before I pulled my food truck up. I
- 19:49Speaker 2: would post an address, that's it. And when I tell you,
- 19:52Speaker 2: people was running like I was Lil Wayne, like it
- 19:54Speaker 2: was a concert. Every single day with lawn chairs with
- 19:57Speaker 2: umbrellas with their kids at the school, patiently waiting.
- 20:01Speaker 4: And you know, black people don't wait for nothing.
- 20:02Speaker 3: That's a fact. You understand.
- 20:04Speaker 4: We ain't waiting for nothing.
- 20:05Speaker 7: So except for Jordan's So are you putting this on
- 20:11Speaker 7: social media like you're putting it out like a pose, like, Hey,
- 20:13Speaker 7: I'm gonna be at this addressed today three o'clock.
- 20:16Speaker 2: It was fifty four seventy two Johnson Road, three pm.
- 20:21Speaker 3: That's it.
- 20:22Speaker 6: But that's another marketing strategy because it's like you're not
- 20:24Speaker 6: going to the same location every single day.
- 20:26Speaker 2: Not only are you not going to the same location.
- 20:28Speaker 2: What I learned about the psyche of people is that
- 20:31Speaker 2: when you keep things from people, it makes them want
- 20:33Speaker 2: it more. We want to be spoon fed. Nobody will
- 20:37Speaker 2: ever admit that, but like people love to just get
- 20:39Speaker 2: a little bit at a time.
- 20:41Speaker 4: It's like a relationship. If I give you everything in.
- 20:43Speaker 2: A relationship, realistically, sometimes people are gonna get bored. But
- 20:47Speaker 2: if you set some boundaries and say, okay, this is
- 20:49Speaker 2: what I'm going to give you and like transparently do that,
- 20:52Speaker 2: then people gonna keep coming. And they kept coming because
- 20:54Speaker 2: I kept the relationship spicy. Everything had a sexual undertone
- 20:58Speaker 2: but had nothing.
- 20:59Speaker 4: To do with sex.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Yeah, right, So it was like it was kind of confusing,
- 21:03Speaker 2: but it wasn't. So it made people want to ask questions.
- 21:05Speaker 2: And then I realized that this is bigger than food.
- 21:08Speaker 2: This is bigger than burgers, pots and fries. I've created
- 21:11Speaker 2: a movement that people are proud to be a part
- 21:13Speaker 2: of because now when I really tore the minds up
- 21:16Speaker 2: is I started my foundation, and with my foundation, I
- 21:20Speaker 2: started doing community work. So now what you're gonna say,
- 21:22Speaker 2: I got a sexy name for a business, but I'm
- 21:24Speaker 2: also helping out the whole entire community.
- 21:27Speaker 4: I'm donating money, I'm paying the balances.
- 21:29Speaker 2: Of students in school. What are you really gonna say
- 21:31Speaker 2: that your kids can't go in there? Your kids on
- 21:33Speaker 2: TikTok every day. And it worked. So now I have Muslims, Christians,
- 21:38Speaker 2: white people, black people, old people, young people coming to
- 21:42Speaker 2: support my brand and they realize that it has nothing
- 21:45Speaker 2: to do with sex, and it's not just about food.
- 21:48Speaker 4: I'm building an ecosystem that everybody could be a part of.
- 21:50Speaker 7: Yeah, so you obviously, I mean that's incredible using the
- 21:54Speaker 7: cultural capital. So we went from the ghost kitchen, we
- 21:57Speaker 7: got to the food truck. At this time, you're still
- 21:59Speaker 7: not a chef, So what is the recess that you're
- 22:02Speaker 7: doing on the foods right, because being a vegan is
- 22:05Speaker 7: not an easy task. So what's that process like of
- 22:08Speaker 7: actually researching and finding the types of foods and what
- 22:11Speaker 7: you can use and what you can't use.
- 22:13Speaker 2: I got the same menu that I've been had from
- 22:14Speaker 2: the beginning. Okay, so like I didn't change the thing.
- 22:17Speaker 2: I probably changed like one little thing. But once I
- 22:20Speaker 2: did that menu the first time, if it ain't broke,
- 22:23Speaker 2: don't fix it. Why would I change something else? I
- 22:25Speaker 2: got all of these people standing in line, So I
- 22:27Speaker 2: didn't change anything. What I did was I streamlined the
- 22:30Speaker 2: products in the business.
- 22:31Speaker 4: So in the.
- 22:32Speaker 2: Beginning, I had my brother whipping up sauce every single
- 22:35Speaker 2: day for five hundred people.
- 22:37Speaker 4: Now you gotta do that because I got a copacker.
- 22:39Speaker 2: Right, fry season I used to make my fry season
- 22:42Speaker 2: and every single day.
- 22:43Speaker 4: Now I don't have to do that because I have
- 22:44Speaker 4: a co packer.
- 22:45Speaker 2: But the most that I've done outside of starting the
- 22:48Speaker 2: business with these same recipes is streamlined it with cod packers,
- 22:52Speaker 2: so I can make my process easier and keep the
- 22:54Speaker 2: consistency of the business of what people fell in love with.
- 22:57Speaker 7: You also trademark obviously the name study being you trade.
- 23:00Speaker 7: But the items on the menu you trademark. I knows
- 23:02Speaker 7: how does that work?
- 23:03Speaker 4: Every single thing? It's funny.
- 23:05Speaker 2: I just posted something, so I say bang and banging.
- 23:08Speaker 2: If you like Slutty Vegan, it is a banging began.
- 23:09Speaker 4: I ask you that.
- 23:10Speaker 2: And if they don't say it's bang and banging, then
- 23:13Speaker 2: it's not good. But every single item is trademark, every
- 23:16Speaker 2: single catchphrase is trademark.
- 23:19Speaker 4: We got trademarks overseas.
- 23:21Speaker 7: Now.
- 23:22Speaker 2: It costs a lot of money. Let's be clear, if
- 23:23Speaker 2: you're watching this, this is not cheap. But I realize
- 23:27Speaker 2: doing it in the beginning, when you do it right,
- 23:29Speaker 2: you never got to do it twice. And I knew
- 23:31Speaker 2: in my spirit, you know how something like you think
- 23:34Speaker 2: of something and you know this gonna be that thing.
- 23:36Speaker 2: I knew Slutty Vegan was gonna be that thing. So
- 23:38Speaker 2: at the very beginning, I told my attorney I want
- 23:40Speaker 2: to trademark every single thing that I could trademark, and
- 23:43Speaker 2: I did that. There's not one thing in my company
- 23:45Speaker 2: that is not trademark, not one thing. Every single thing
- 23:48Speaker 2: is trademark.
- 23:48Speaker 3: Very important, very very important.
- 23:51Speaker 2: And it's important because what I realized is is that
- 23:54Speaker 2: there are people who see a business growing and they
- 23:57Speaker 2: don't think that you have those level of smarts, so
- 24:00Speaker 2: they want to use your name, they want to try
- 24:02Speaker 2: to get the websites, they want to do all of
- 24:04Speaker 2: these things. But I'm like, nah, like I protected my
- 24:07Speaker 2: business and I learned that early on, especially having the
- 24:10Speaker 2: restaurant in New York. I didn't have fire insurance, so
- 24:13Speaker 2: I didn't get no money from that grease fire.
- 24:15Speaker 3: Wow.
- 24:16Speaker 2: And I said, and that's why I said in the
- 24:18Speaker 2: beginning of my conversations, sometimes when bad things happen, that's
- 24:22Speaker 2: the best thing that could happen for us. Because if
- 24:25Speaker 2: my restaurant wanted to call it on fire and I
- 24:26Speaker 2: realized I didn't have fire insurance to be able to
- 24:28Speaker 2: protect myself, I want to been like, Okay, this new business.
- 24:31Speaker 2: I got to make sure that my accountant is good,
- 24:33Speaker 2: my lawyer is good, that I got all the insurances
- 24:36Speaker 2: that I need, that I'm protected. I got NDA's, I
- 24:38Speaker 2: got confidentiality agreements, things that creatives don't really want to
- 24:43Speaker 2: talk about, because let's keep it real, you know, creatives
- 24:45Speaker 2: really and I'm talking about myself.
- 24:47Speaker 4: I'm a creative, Like that stuff to me is born.
- 24:49Speaker 2: I just like to pursue and be great and manifest
- 24:52Speaker 2: and do all of these spiritual.
- 24:53Speaker 4: Things and like be great. But business got to happen.
- 24:57Speaker 2: And in order for business to take place and to grow,
- 24:59Speaker 2: you got to make sure that you were always buttoned up.
- 25:01Speaker 4: And I did that with Slutty Vegan, and I'm so
- 25:03Speaker 4: glad that I did.
- 25:03Speaker 3: You trademark domestic and international.
- 25:05Speaker 4: Domestic and internationally.
- 25:07Speaker 3: Google expansion and soon coming.
- 25:09Speaker 4: Oh. I wasn't playing. I knew it was that thing.
- 25:12Speaker 4: When I was a kid, I said, I'm would be
- 25:14Speaker 4: a star. I ain't know what that meant.
- 25:16Speaker 3: I said.
- 25:16Speaker 2: I was watching Golden Girls with my grandmother every day
- 25:19Speaker 2: and while my friends was outside playing. I didn't grow
- 25:21Speaker 2: up playing with Barbie dolls. I didn't grow up doing
- 25:23Speaker 2: none of that. But I knew that I had a gift,
- 25:25Speaker 2: and I didn't know that what that gift was. I
- 25:27Speaker 2: didn't know how to sing, I barely knew how to dance,
- 25:29Speaker 2: but I knew I had this, and as long as
- 25:31Speaker 2: I had this, it was gonna take me places. So
- 25:34Speaker 2: when Slutty Vegan came, I felt it in my spirit
- 25:36Speaker 2: that Slutty Vegan was gonna be a billion dollar brand.
- 25:38Speaker 2: And I speak that every single day, and I know
- 25:40Speaker 2: it's gonna manifest this.
- 25:41Speaker 6: So okay, So you're doing the like scavenger hunt marketing
- 25:46Speaker 6: strategy with the with the food trucks. How often were
- 25:48Speaker 6: you in the streets with the food truck every day
- 25:50Speaker 6: or every single with different locations, every single.
- 25:52Speaker 4: Day, every single day?
- 25:54Speaker 3: Okay? So at what point does that scale into a
- 25:57Speaker 3: physical restaurant?
- 25:59Speaker 4: Well, how it scared.
- 26:01Speaker 2: I was working as the cast and director still with
- 26:03Speaker 2: the food truck, and I got fired. And I'm so
- 26:07Speaker 2: happy that I got fired. Thank you to the person
- 26:09Speaker 2: who fired me. But when I got fired, let me
- 26:12Speaker 2: tell y'all this funny story. The day that I got fired,
- 26:14Speaker 2: I went to JJU. If you live in Atlanta, JJU
- 26:17Speaker 2: is a twenty four hour spar right, and I took
- 26:19Speaker 2: my left hand and my right hand, the people that
- 26:21Speaker 2: were helping me to run the company, and we had
- 26:23Speaker 2: just gotten out the shower while we were eating some noodles,
- 26:26Speaker 2: and I got a call from Jermaine dupri and he like, look,
- 26:29Speaker 2: I got Snoop Dogg and little Duvo here, they want
- 26:32Speaker 2: some food.
- 26:32Speaker 4: It was one am in the morning.
- 26:35Speaker 2: We had just settled down from being out all day
- 26:37Speaker 2: and I looked at my team, I'm like, yo, we
- 26:39Speaker 2: gotta go do this thing like pinky.
- 26:40Speaker 4: We tired, I said, listen, I said, nothing was tried
- 26:43Speaker 4: but the failure.
- 26:43Speaker 2: You want to win. Put your clothes on. Let's go
- 26:46Speaker 2: and we put our clothes on and we fast snoop dog.
- 26:48Speaker 2: That was the day that I got fired. And do
- 26:51Speaker 2: you know, ever since that happened, I had to get
- 26:53Speaker 2: a brick and mortar because I couldn't keep up with
- 26:55Speaker 2: the demand.
- 26:56Speaker 3: Oh he posted it, Yes, he.
- 26:58Speaker 2: Posted it, posted it, and everything shot up from there.
- 27:02Speaker 2: So the best thing that could have happened was me
- 27:04Speaker 2: getting fired because it gave me an opportunity to feed it.
- 27:07Speaker 2: And all he ate was Friese on camera that cultural
- 27:11Speaker 2: capital is real.
- 27:13Speaker 7: I mean even that part. So I'm thinking that you're
- 27:15Speaker 7: doing this full time. You actually had the casting that
- 27:18Speaker 7: was like a nine to five situation while you were
- 27:20Speaker 7: doing this.
- 27:20Speaker 4: Well, I mean TV's not really nine to five, but yeah.
- 27:23Speaker 2: So I had a team of seven that I was
- 27:25Speaker 2: running and still working at Slutdy Vegan, and I didn't
- 27:28Speaker 2: even tell people that I had Slutdy Vegan because I
- 27:30Speaker 2: didn't want them to know.
- 27:33Speaker 4: But when I got swat excuse me.
- 27:35Speaker 2: But when I got fired, I went all in and
- 27:37Speaker 2: because I couldn't keep up with the demand, somebody sent
- 27:40Speaker 2: me a message on Instagram and they said, hey, we
- 27:43Speaker 2: got a location for you.
- 27:44Speaker 4: Somebody's getting evicted. Do you want it. I'm like yeah.
- 27:46Speaker 2: The space was six hundred thirty square feet six hundred
- 27:50Speaker 2: and thirty square feet, and the landlord, initially he was
- 27:54Speaker 2: just like, well, I don't know if you got a
- 27:55Speaker 2: good business. I don't know if this is going to work,
- 27:56Speaker 2: if it's just trendy. I said, listen, I said, you
- 27:58Speaker 2: gotta give me a chance. I said, and if it
- 28:00Speaker 2: don't work out, I will give you all your money back.
- 28:02Speaker 2: And he gave me a chance. And my grain opening,
- 28:04Speaker 2: I had twelve hundred people standing outside for hours, eight
- 28:09Speaker 2: hours to patronize my business in a six hundred and
- 28:12Speaker 2: thirty feet square foot space.
- 28:14Speaker 3: So you built it.
- 28:16Speaker 6: You built it with the Ghost Kitchen, you built the buzz,
- 28:18Speaker 6: then you built the buzz with the Food Trust. So
- 28:19Speaker 6: by the time you had the physical location, you already
- 28:21Speaker 6: had a cult following. So they just happy aid at
- 28:24Speaker 6: you to see your growth. They've it's kind of similar
- 28:26Speaker 6: to our story. What they've watched our growth. They've watched
- 28:29Speaker 6: your growth, and now it's like you just didn't start
- 28:33Speaker 6: a restaurant from nobody knowing you trying to build it.
- 28:36Speaker 6: You already did the groundwork. So by the time you
- 28:38Speaker 6: got the restaurant, the buzz is already there.
- 28:41Speaker 4: Yep, the buzz was there.
- 28:43Speaker 2: The people would support me, and even till this day,
- 28:46Speaker 2: I still got that location. It's my first location, still
- 28:48Speaker 2: got it.
- 28:49Speaker 4: And what I.
- 28:50Speaker 2: Realized is being transparent in business is so key. Oftentimes
- 28:55Speaker 2: people just want to show you the final product, like Okay,
- 28:58Speaker 2: this looks good, it's pretty.
- 28:59Speaker 4: I never did that. I showed the moments where I
- 29:01Speaker 4: was tired.
- 29:01Speaker 2: I would post pictures tied in my car sleeping, like hey,
- 29:04Speaker 2: the grind don't stop. But people felt like they were
- 29:07Speaker 2: a part of that journey with me. Something else that
- 29:09Speaker 2: I did that's really good for entrepreneurs. My bag, you've
- 29:12Speaker 2: been in my restaurant before, so.
- 29:14Speaker 3: I haven't you haven't you ate it? I atelt They
- 29:18Speaker 3: gave oh, yes, you said that.
- 29:19Speaker 2: So if you look at Sludy Vegan bags where they
- 29:21Speaker 2: put the food in, that was from a winner from
- 29:24Speaker 2: a competition that I did on Instagram. So I found
- 29:27Speaker 2: all the opportunities to include my customers. Hey, we have
- 29:30Speaker 2: a bad competition, can you design a bag sending your
- 29:34Speaker 2: favorite designs and we're gonna pick a winner and we're
- 29:36Speaker 2: gonna pay you and it's gonna be our bag for
- 29:38Speaker 2: Sludy Vegan. And I did that with almost everything in
- 29:40Speaker 2: the business. So now I'm including people in the journey
- 29:44Speaker 2: and growing at the same time.
- 29:46Speaker 4: So people felt like.
- 29:47Speaker 3: They were a part of the building a community.
- 29:48Speaker 4: Building a community.
- 29:49Speaker 6: It's a lot of parallels, Like even like our journey,
- 29:51Speaker 6: I feel like, you know, people ask all the time,
- 29:53Speaker 6: like when we started the show with podcasts, they they
- 29:56Speaker 6: look at like it was an automatic success, but it
- 29:59Speaker 6: was like it was a backstory behind that. Like we
- 30:01Speaker 6: was on social media doing social media for two years before,
- 30:05Speaker 6: so by the time we started the podcast, the Instagram
- 30:10Speaker 6: following was already there.
- 30:11Speaker 3: So it's not like we.
- 30:13Speaker 6: Just started a random podcast where no followers anything, Like
- 30:16Speaker 6: we had done work for two years to build an
- 30:18Speaker 6: Instagram following and then drop the podcast.
- 30:21Speaker 3: Where you similar I think, like, you know, it's.
- 30:24Speaker 6: Like a lot of people come out with a restaurant
- 30:26Speaker 6: and nobody knows them from scratch.
- 30:28Speaker 3: It's hard to build that.
- 30:29Speaker 6: But you started from the ghost kitchen to the food
- 30:31Speaker 6: truck to the restaurant, which automatically gave you the momentum.
- 30:35Speaker 6: And another parallel in our stories is the community. So
- 30:38Speaker 6: that was real big for us to actually have a
- 30:40Speaker 6: community online, giving them names, call them earners, and you know,
- 30:45Speaker 6: asking questions what do you think about this?
- 30:47Speaker 3: So I remember my gout MG the mortgage.
- 30:49Speaker 6: He said early on, He's like, your page is like
- 30:50Speaker 6: the shave of financial literacy because people going back and
- 30:53Speaker 6: forth in the comments, arguing with each other. The engagement
- 30:56Speaker 6: was crazy, and it'd be like a social media like
- 30:59Speaker 6: firestorm for financial literacy. So because that's the first time
- 31:02Speaker 6: that I really heard about you a few years ago
- 31:04Speaker 6: was I forgot who told me? It might have been Mike,
- 31:07Speaker 6: but I heard about the name, and then I started
- 31:10Speaker 6: following the pay and then your followers was just going crazy.
- 31:13Speaker 6: It was like ten thousand followers every week. You was
- 31:15Speaker 6: just gaining followers ten thousand and five thousand and fifty Yeah, yeah,
- 31:21Speaker 6: what are they doing?
- 31:21Speaker 2: Like?
- 31:21Speaker 6: It was just like the momentum on social media was
- 31:25Speaker 6: just going crazy. So talk about that from a marketing
- 31:27Speaker 6: perspective as far as leveraging social media and doing organic
- 31:31Speaker 6: marketing authenticity.
- 31:34Speaker 4: You know, I was.
- 31:34Speaker 2: I was with a really big company yesterday and I
- 31:38Speaker 2: was telling them it's funny. I was talking to them
- 31:40Speaker 2: and I said, listen. I said, the next time y'all
- 31:42Speaker 2: have a board meeting, take a regular camera phone and
- 31:45Speaker 2: just video the board meeting and then post it on
- 31:47Speaker 2: your page. And they said, well, why would we do that.
- 31:50Speaker 2: I said, well, do that because it's showing that y'all
- 31:52Speaker 2: are real people, that people can touch you. And I
- 31:54Speaker 2: think oftentimes what makes businesses successful is when people feel
- 31:59Speaker 2: like you're tangible, and that's exactly how Slutty Vegan was
- 32:02Speaker 2: able to grow. Like everything about us is authentic. It's real,
- 32:06Speaker 2: Like we're pleasant in the comments, so we're gonna give
- 32:08Speaker 2: you like some bougetto right, like were pleasant in the comments,
- 32:11Speaker 2: like we respond our customer services a one, like we
- 32:14Speaker 2: got twenty four hour customer service. But we're gonna get
- 32:17Speaker 2: with you and meet you where you are. And that
- 32:20Speaker 2: social media has allowed us to gain more traffic in
- 32:23Speaker 2: the business because people like realness, they like rawness, they
- 32:26Speaker 2: like authenticity. And when I created the Slutty Vegan page,
- 32:30Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, so I'm gonna do three things.
- 32:32Speaker 2: I'm gonna make people laugh, I'm gonna make them proud,
- 32:35Speaker 2: and I'm gonna give them information, which I believe all
- 32:38Speaker 2: social media business pages should do. Make people laugh, right,
- 32:41Speaker 2: and that's the engagement because they're gonna talk, make them laugh,
- 32:44Speaker 2: something funny that's a mean, make them proud.
- 32:46Speaker 4: The accomplishments.
- 32:47Speaker 2: What are you doing, what are you doing in the community,
- 32:49Speaker 2: what's the next phase in your journey?
- 32:51Speaker 4: And give them information. What's some of the menu today?
- 32:54Speaker 2: What's happening with Slutty Vegan, Like are we opening a
- 32:56Speaker 2: new location? And because I've done that and been very
- 32:59Speaker 2: consistent with that, it has worked.
- 33:01Speaker 4: I post at the same times every day and have been.
- 33:04Speaker 2: Posting like that since twenty eighteen, so now people are
- 33:07Speaker 2: accustomed to getting that text. When you see it every day,
- 33:11Speaker 2: it's almost like if we miss a moment and we
- 33:13Speaker 2: don't post, they like, well, what happened why?
- 33:15Speaker 4: People like that level of consistency.
- 33:17Speaker 2: But we've been able to do something that made people
- 33:21Speaker 2: love our social media so much.
- 33:23Speaker 4: They're like, I've got to go see what the hype
- 33:24Speaker 4: is about.
- 33:25Speaker 2: If the restaurant is anything like this social media, then
- 33:28Speaker 2: I want to be a part of it, and it
- 33:30Speaker 2: has worked for us since the very very beginning, and
- 33:32Speaker 2: we had in house marketing, like we don't pay an
- 33:35Speaker 2: agency outside to do it.
- 33:36Speaker 4: We just sit around like this and like all right,
- 33:38Speaker 4: we should.
- 33:39Speaker 2: Do this, like boom, like what we're going to do today?
- 33:41Speaker 2: Like I'll give you an example. We just did a
- 33:45Speaker 2: deal with Steve Matten which I could talk about.
- 33:48Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
- 33:49Speaker 2: It's a shoe deal and it's the first of its kind,
- 33:52Speaker 2: the first shoe deal back by Pedo, which is really
- 33:54Speaker 2: big because you know, Peter don't play, and it's the
- 33:57Speaker 2: first shoe deal of Fludy Degan, a restaurant with a.
- 33:59Speaker 4: Shoe, Like, how does that happen?
- 34:01Speaker 3: Right?
- 34:01Speaker 2: But we realize that we are a lifestyle brand first
- 34:04Speaker 2: that happens to sell burgers, pies and fries. So what
- 34:09Speaker 2: I did was we were sitting at the table and
- 34:11Speaker 2: I said, you know what we're gonna do. We're gonna
- 34:12Speaker 2: do a high fashion Vogue shoot. But guess what, We're
- 34:15Speaker 2: gonna use employees.
- 34:17Speaker 4: So we did a.
- 34:18Speaker 2: High fashion editorial Vogue l type shoot with all of
- 34:22Speaker 2: our employees. So you got the fry cook, you got
- 34:24Speaker 2: the managers, you got the hr assistant and high Fashion
- 34:27Speaker 2: hairstyled up Done, and now we're pitching it to the
- 34:30Speaker 2: high class magazines because we're giving them opportunities and we
- 34:34Speaker 2: sit around and think about stuff like that. Every single
- 34:37Speaker 2: person that you see on the social media page is
- 34:39Speaker 2: an employee. So all the dreamers, all the people who
- 34:42Speaker 2: want to be rappers, singers, artists, painters.
- 34:45Speaker 4: You ain't got to flip burgers all day. What you know,
- 34:47Speaker 4: how to do? You know how to dance? Come on,
- 34:49Speaker 4: do this video and we're gonna put you on a page.
- 34:51Speaker 2: And it makes it feel like a collective because they're
- 34:54Speaker 2: not just employees. They become talent and people have gotten
- 34:57Speaker 2: so many opportunities from that. So that level with marketing
- 35:00Speaker 2: has really helped us a lot and people love it
- 35:03Speaker 2: and it's been working.
- 35:03Speaker 3: So how do you go I mean that's amazing. Number one?
- 35:06Speaker 7: First of all, to Steve Mandeal, how do you go
- 35:08Speaker 7: about creating brand partnerships? Obviously you have to shakeshack situation
- 35:12Speaker 7: Steve Manning, Now, what's the criteria do?
- 35:15Speaker 3: What do you go into it? Look at or just
- 35:16Speaker 3: have to be a natural fit.
- 35:17Speaker 7: Obviously you're building a community, So what are you looking
- 35:20Speaker 7: for when you're trying to find a brand partner.
- 35:22Speaker 2: So I'm not the average CEO, right, So, like I
- 35:26Speaker 2: do everything with my gut.
- 35:27Speaker 4: It gotta feel good in my.
- 35:28Speaker 2: Spirit, right, And I got to realize that, like is
- 35:31Speaker 2: it just a benefit for them or is it also
- 35:34Speaker 2: a benefit for us? You know, oftentimes small businesses, we'll
- 35:37Speaker 2: do something just to benefit the other side because we
- 35:39Speaker 2: want an opportunity. But we ain't got to do that
- 35:41Speaker 2: no more, especially with everything that has happened in the
- 35:43Speaker 2: last two years, Like fine opportunities that will equally benefit
- 35:47Speaker 2: you as well because you got to put in the work.
- 35:49Speaker 2: You gotta put in the time and the energy and
- 35:51Speaker 2: the money. So when I did the Shakeshack deal, I
- 35:54Speaker 2: knew that was a no brainer for me. It was
- 35:56Speaker 2: going to expose me to a new audience, and who
- 35:58Speaker 2: doesn't like to be exposed to a new audience, right,
- 36:00Speaker 2: So it exposed me to people who have never heard
- 36:02Speaker 2: of the brand, and it allowed me the ability to
- 36:04Speaker 2: build relationships with people who I'm now professionally in bed
- 36:08Speaker 2: with doing business.
- 36:09Speaker 4: So when the.
- 36:10Speaker 2: Steve Mann opportunity came on, it was funny because I
- 36:13Speaker 2: did like a summit and Steve Mann was on the summit.
- 36:16Speaker 2: And one thing about me is those who take chances
- 36:19Speaker 2: make advances. I'm gonna seize the opportunity if it's in
- 36:22Speaker 2: front of my face. So he was on the zoom
- 36:24Speaker 2: and I'm like, hey, Steve, my name is Pinky and
- 36:27Speaker 2: you don't.
- 36:28Speaker 4: Know me, but you need to look me up.
- 36:30Speaker 2: And I think that we need to do a shoe
- 36:31Speaker 2: deal because there is no shoe deal in the restaurant,
- 36:33Speaker 2: a vegan space. And I think that this will be
- 36:35Speaker 2: a game changer and it'll be massive. And you know,
- 36:38Speaker 2: he said, he said, I love it. He said, let's.
- 36:40Speaker 3: Set that shit up.
- 36:41Speaker 4: He said, I'm gonna send you my assistant email. Let's
- 36:44Speaker 4: do it.
- 36:44Speaker 2: And that's exactly how it happened, all because I opened
- 36:47Speaker 2: up my mouth and asked.
- 36:48Speaker 4: And you know, I think that.
- 36:50Speaker 2: That is a big part of partnerships and creating opportunities
- 36:54Speaker 2: for your business is asking right and not being afraid
- 36:58Speaker 2: to ask no. It don't hurt me, And don't nobody
- 37:00Speaker 2: scared be enough where I don't want to ask you
- 37:02Speaker 2: a question. I'm gonna ask you and if you say no,
- 37:04Speaker 2: it's fine. It's just putting a bat ring on my
- 37:06Speaker 2: back to keep going. And I did that and the
- 37:09Speaker 2: opportunity was It's an amazing opportunity, Like it's so historic,
- 37:12Speaker 2: especially with all of the stuff this Lett Vegan is doing.
- 37:15Speaker 2: And I'm so happy that we get to do it
- 37:17Speaker 2: because it's.
- 37:18Speaker 4: Gonna be big. It's a sneaker, It's a sneaker, all
- 37:22Speaker 4: Vegan leather.
- 37:24Speaker 3: Vegan leather.
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- 40:20Speaker 7: So like when we do something, we have a moment,
- 40:22Speaker 7: people salute it and they cheer it, and I feel
- 40:24Speaker 7: like it's very similar with you, because like even when
- 40:26Speaker 7: I heard about the Sha Shack situation, obviously with your
- 40:29Speaker 7: series A, we were ruined for it, Like yes, and
- 40:32Speaker 7: we did. Before I even knew what you looked like,
- 40:34Speaker 7: I knew who you were, and I knew what study
- 40:36Speaker 7: Veghan was because it was that like, wait, everybody's and
- 40:38Speaker 7: the culture knows what this thing is, they've tasted it.
- 40:40Speaker 3: How do I not know?
- 40:42Speaker 7: So do you feel like now, I mean even just
- 40:45Speaker 7: two thousd I mean twenty eighteen was only four years ago,
- 40:47Speaker 7: which is like incredible for this. At some point, are
- 40:50Speaker 7: the people coming to get the experience of being around
- 40:53Speaker 7: you or the food or like what is it?
- 40:56Speaker 3: Like?
- 40:56Speaker 4: You know, that's a good question.
- 40:57Speaker 2: I'm still trying to figure that out too, because I
- 41:00Speaker 2: know that people love me, and I'm humble to say that, right,
- 41:02Speaker 2: that's a good feeling, right, And I also know that
- 41:05Speaker 2: people love my business. But what I'm realizing is that
- 41:08Speaker 2: there is a group of people that love Pinky Coal,
- 41:11Speaker 2: and there's the people that love Slutdy Vegan. I think
- 41:13Speaker 2: people know who the owner of Fludy Vegan is because
- 41:16Speaker 2: they are so enamored.
- 41:18Speaker 4: With this business.
- 41:19Speaker 2: But then they also are getting to know me now, right,
- 41:22Speaker 2: So like you start to see Pinky Coal everywhere because
- 41:24Speaker 2: all of the thought leadership and the interviews I'm doing,
- 41:26Speaker 2: I'm the only person that speaks on behalf of my business.
- 41:30Speaker 2: But whatever it is, I ain't complaining because it's good,
- 41:33Speaker 2: right because I get to capitalize and not just off money, right,
- 41:36Speaker 2: I get to utilize these two audiences and merge them
- 41:40Speaker 2: together and make something beautiful.
- 41:41Speaker 9: Right.
- 41:41Speaker 2: And that's through my cookbook, that's through all the things
- 41:44Speaker 2: that I have going on, that's through the accomplishments. When
- 41:47Speaker 2: people see me, they see themselves, right, they see hope,
- 41:50Speaker 2: they see the idea of possibility. They see the fact
- 41:52Speaker 2: that you can be a regular deglar girl from around
- 41:55Speaker 2: the way and achieve and follow all your dreams. And
- 41:57Speaker 2: people see me and I'm motivation to them. So whether
- 42:00Speaker 2: it comes to the vessel of Slutty Vegan or the
- 42:03Speaker 2: Pinky Cold brand, is still a win because everybody wins
- 42:06Speaker 2: at the end of the day. And I like to
- 42:08Speaker 2: motivate people. I want people to see me and like, damn,
- 42:10Speaker 2: Pinky did it. Oh, I can do it like there's
- 42:12Speaker 2: nothing impossible because this girl did it.
- 42:14Speaker 4: And this is just this is me.
- 42:16Speaker 3: Right.
- 42:16Speaker 2: I've been pregnant for the last two years. I got
- 42:18Speaker 2: locks in my head and I'm brown skin. I don't
- 42:20Speaker 2: fit the sadus quo, right, Like I don't talk proper.
- 42:23Speaker 2: I'm a sale on a tongue sometimes, but I myself,
- 42:26Speaker 2: and people see that you can now be yourself and
- 42:29Speaker 2: be in business and build multimillion dollar businesses. Once upon
- 42:32Speaker 2: a time you had to pocket yourself and you had
- 42:35Speaker 2: to reserve your said, you ain't got to do that
- 42:36Speaker 2: shit no more. You could be whoever you want to
- 42:38Speaker 2: be and be uber successful in your right mind and
- 42:43Speaker 2: do all the things that you want to do without
- 42:45Speaker 2: having to turtle or cover yourself for anybody.
- 42:48Speaker 3: That's right.
- 42:51Speaker 6: That was key, you said, the pinky cold brand, vegan brand.
- 42:56Speaker 6: How important is that for business owners in your opinion,
- 43:00Speaker 6: to have their own personal brand outside of the business brand.
- 43:05Speaker 6: The reason why I ask is a good friend of mine,
- 43:07Speaker 6: Ronnie Brown, you know.
- 43:08Speaker 4: Her, that's my girl.
- 43:09Speaker 6: Was her for like an hour, Okay, yeah, she told
- 43:12Speaker 6: me like a year ago. She was like, because when
- 43:15Speaker 6: we first started, before we started earning Leadia, I had
- 43:17Speaker 6: my own personal page that helped build the buzz, was
- 43:20Speaker 6: for early Legion. But when once we got Early Legia,
- 43:22Speaker 6: it became so popular, became bigger than my own personal page,
- 43:24Speaker 6: and then it kind of morphed so like a lot
- 43:26Speaker 6: of the content that was on my own personal pages
- 43:29Speaker 6: on early leisions page kind of the same thing. So
- 43:30Speaker 6: she was telling me, She's like, I'm looking at your
- 43:32Speaker 6: page and it looks like early Leisures page. It's like
- 43:34Speaker 6: you need to have more stuff like backstories, different things
- 43:39Speaker 6: that's like unique to you and not necessarily the same
- 43:42Speaker 6: thing that's on early Lesia. So I did that, and
- 43:45Speaker 6: I started like doing different things like my wardrobe, different
- 43:48Speaker 6: stuff like that, just to kind of build more of
- 43:49Speaker 6: a personality on that. And that's actually been successful. So
- 43:54Speaker 6: talk about that, like you having your own personal brand
- 43:57Speaker 6: and you having study vegan brand and balancing the two.
- 44:01Speaker 4: That's a really good question.
- 44:03Speaker 2: So I believe that your personal brand needs to have
- 44:06Speaker 2: just as much of a personality as your business because
- 44:11Speaker 2: when people look up your business for an inquisitive mind
- 44:15Speaker 2: like myself, I want to know who's behind the business.
- 44:18Speaker 2: And when I start looking behind the business, now I'm
- 44:20Speaker 2: starting to look at like what do you do for
- 44:21Speaker 2: a limit? I'll give you an example. So I love
- 44:24Speaker 2: to invest. Real estate is my new thing. Like I'm
- 44:26Speaker 2: addicted to real estate. It's like tattoos. Right. So this
- 44:30Speaker 2: guy sent me a DM and he wanted to He
- 44:33Speaker 2: was looking for a partner to do Airbnb. He was
- 44:34Speaker 2: looking for an investor, right, so the business page was fantastic.
- 44:38Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this looks good. Then when I went
- 44:41Speaker 2: to his personal page, his pants sagging, he got guns
- 44:44Speaker 2: in the camera.
- 44:44Speaker 4: I'm like, hold up, wait a minute.
- 44:47Speaker 2: But what I realized, and I told him straight up,
- 44:49Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, your business looks great, but in order
- 44:52Speaker 2: for me to ever want to do business with you,
- 44:54Speaker 2: like I would never do business with somebody who shows
- 44:56Speaker 2: up this way personally, because you are a reflection of
- 44:59Speaker 2: your business. So no, you don't have to be as
- 45:02Speaker 2: famous as what your business is, but you got to
- 45:04Speaker 2: have some class, some tech, and how you show up
- 45:07Speaker 2: as a reflection of how people assume your business and
- 45:10Speaker 2: how they see it. So, just like you on my
- 45:12Speaker 2: personal page, I show you the behind the scenes of
- 45:15Speaker 2: the behind the scenes, right, I show you the behind
- 45:17Speaker 2: the build. I show you the accomplishments, the things that
- 45:20Speaker 2: I don't necessarily put on a slutty vegan page, but
- 45:22Speaker 2: I want you to get the idea of what the
- 45:24Speaker 2: backstory looks like, and then you get to know who
- 45:26Speaker 2: I am. The speaking engagements, like I don't even put
- 45:29Speaker 2: my speaking engagements on a sludy vegan page because I
- 45:31Speaker 2: wanted to have a life of his own. But I
- 45:33Speaker 2: want you to know where that life came from, and
- 45:35Speaker 2: that life came from.
- 45:36Speaker 4: Me, the owner.
- 45:37Speaker 2: But I make sure that how I show up on
- 45:39Speaker 2: my page is tactful. I'm not doing a lot of
- 45:42Speaker 2: person on my page cursing, but not a lot of cursing.
- 45:45Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. How I'm showing up.
- 45:46Speaker 2: You see a little bit of family, you see a
- 45:48Speaker 2: little bit of my relationship, but you also see how
- 45:50Speaker 2: I build on the back end. So it's very necessary
- 45:53Speaker 2: to basically show up with respect to your own personal
- 45:56Speaker 2: brand because people are paying attention to that and most
- 45:59Speaker 2: times these big investors, if you are looking for investors,
- 46:02Speaker 2: that's the kind of research that they do. They'll go
- 46:04Speaker 2: to Instagram and don't believe it or not, people actually
- 46:07Speaker 2: still go to Facebook, right And although my Facebook is
- 46:10Speaker 2: not active, there are people that go to my Facebook
- 46:13Speaker 2: to figure out who I used to be, right like,
- 46:15Speaker 2: where I came from, what I did in high school.
- 46:17Speaker 2: People do that kind of research. So just make sure
- 46:20Speaker 2: that your personal brand speaks to your business brand as well,
- 46:23Speaker 2: especially if you want to be successful.
- 46:24Speaker 7: So, speaking of your personal brand, you got a new
- 46:27Speaker 7: brand title mother.
- 46:29Speaker 3: What has that been like?
- 46:30Speaker 7: Over the past two years, obviously having a child and
- 46:33Speaker 7: you know another one on the way.
- 46:34Speaker 3: So what is that like?
- 46:35Speaker 7: Because business has been booming and it doesn't look like
- 46:38Speaker 7: it's going to slow down at any time, So what
- 46:41Speaker 7: is that chapter been like for you?
- 46:43Speaker 2: It's hard. And I used to lie to myself like, yeah,
- 46:46Speaker 2: it's easy. It's easy because I got a nanny, right, Like,
- 46:49Speaker 2: my mom helps, and I have a good support system
- 46:53Speaker 2: and my partner is present. But it is not easy
- 46:56Speaker 2: being a entrepreneur and a mother.
- 46:59Speaker 4: Is it possible? Absolutely?
- 47:01Speaker 2: Some people don't have as much help as I do,
- 47:03Speaker 2: and if I didn't have this level of help, it
- 47:05Speaker 2: probably would even be harder. So I commend mothers around
- 47:08Speaker 2: the world who have to take care of their kids,
- 47:11Speaker 2: go to work, do all of this stuff and don't
- 47:13Speaker 2: even have the support that they need because they shit.
- 47:15Speaker 2: Ain't no joke, Like, it's not a joke because what
- 47:18Speaker 2: I realized is, and I'm being totally transparent here, as
- 47:20Speaker 2: a woman and a mother, my dream is to be
- 47:24Speaker 2: a super uber successful entrepreneur, but it was also my
- 47:27Speaker 2: dream to be a mother, right, So as a mother,
- 47:30Speaker 2: I realized that I can't be one hundred percent in
- 47:33Speaker 2: both areas.
- 47:34Speaker 4: So sometimes I fall short in the mother department and.
- 47:36Speaker 2: I have mother guilt. And I know I'm not the
- 47:38Speaker 2: only person that feels like this. And what mother guilt
- 47:40Speaker 2: looks like is I see my mother baby sitting my
- 47:43Speaker 2: daughter while I'm working. And I got like five different
- 47:45Speaker 2: meetings and then I got a step back and like,
- 47:46Speaker 2: all right, you.
- 47:47Speaker 4: Need to spend some time.
- 47:48Speaker 2: But then I also realized I don't want to have
- 47:50Speaker 2: to compromise. I don't want to have to just be
- 47:53Speaker 2: a mother and I can't be a businesswoman or be
- 47:55Speaker 2: a business woman and I can't be a mother. I
- 47:58Speaker 2: feel like women should be able to do and.
- 48:00Speaker 4: Have it all. It's just about balance, and I'm adjusting.
- 48:03Speaker 4: It's a good adjustment.
- 48:04Speaker 2: But I'm finally at a place where I can openly
- 48:06Speaker 2: and transparently say that because everybody won't tell the truth
- 48:09Speaker 2: about that, right, Like I literally I have about four
- 48:13Speaker 2: three to four interviews every single day. Then I'm in
- 48:15Speaker 2: a relationship, so you got to keep the relationship spicy.
- 48:18Speaker 2: Right then, I still have to be a philanthropist, a leader.
- 48:22Speaker 2: I have over two hundred employees in my company, so
- 48:26Speaker 2: I still got to be the CEO to them. So
- 48:28Speaker 2: that they can feel safe and do all the things
- 48:30Speaker 2: that they want to do in the business. So I
- 48:32Speaker 2: wear a lot of hats and now I'm just making
- 48:35Speaker 2: sure that I'm not spreading myself too thin with those hats.
- 48:38Speaker 2: And that's why I start bringing in the right team,
- 48:41Speaker 2: which is very important.
- 48:43Speaker 3: Extremely let's talk about this. The moment we all been
- 48:46Speaker 3: waiting for.
- 48:47Speaker 6: Twenty five million dollars was raised in your Series A round,
- 48:50Speaker 6: which gave you one hundred million dollars valuation. People see
- 48:53Speaker 6: the headlines, A lot of people don't even know what
- 48:55Speaker 6: the Series eight is, right, They might not even know
- 48:57Speaker 6: why you actually even raise the money. What's the plan?
- 49:01Speaker 6: So I have an idea of it, but I want
- 49:03Speaker 6: to hear from you. When did you realize you're constantly scaling?
- 49:08Speaker 3: Right?
- 49:08Speaker 6: So you start, you started the goals kitchen, then you
- 49:11Speaker 6: go to a food truck, then you go to a restaurant.
- 49:15Speaker 6: Now you're in the VC world where you're raising a
- 49:17Speaker 6: lot of money to take this thing, you know, national,
- 49:21Speaker 6: possibly even globally.
- 49:23Speaker 3: When did you get that mindset of Okay.
- 49:26Speaker 6: I want to raise money because you don't probably necessarily
- 49:29Speaker 6: need the money to scale, but it's going to help
- 49:31Speaker 6: you scale at a faster pace and the relationship.
- 49:33Speaker 3: So who turned you on to that? How did that
- 49:37Speaker 3: thinking happen? What was it deal with that?
- 49:39Speaker 2: So since the very beginning, I had people knocking on
- 49:42Speaker 2: my door to give me money, like knocking, still knocking.
- 49:45Speaker 6: Dcs, the biggest CEOs are the biggest companies, the places
- 49:50Speaker 6: we eat every single day, knocking on my door saying, hey,
- 49:53Speaker 6: can we buy the business?
- 49:54Speaker 4: Can we invest in the business? Can we be a partner?
- 49:57Speaker 2: And it felt so good to be able to say no,
- 49:59Speaker 2: not right now, right because I had something that was
- 50:03Speaker 2: growing and still building. So many people even still want
- 50:05Speaker 2: to franchise the business. But when I realized that I
- 50:08Speaker 2: needed to not just raise money, but I needed to
- 50:12Speaker 2: bring in support of an outside party is when I
- 50:17Speaker 2: learned that the business started being bigger than me. Do
- 50:19Speaker 2: you know what I mean when I say that when
- 50:21Speaker 2: you are scaling a company you start you have to
- 50:24Speaker 2: start bringing in the level of expertise that you don't have. Right, So,
- 50:27Speaker 2: remember what I told you in the beginning, This was
- 50:29Speaker 2: a passion project for me. And as a passion project, right,
- 50:33Speaker 2: I'm not a restaurant tour I just happened to be
- 50:35Speaker 2: that way. And I know so much as I know,
- 50:39Speaker 2: but there comes a time where in order to open
- 50:41Speaker 2: up all of these restaurants, I need to start bringing
- 50:43Speaker 2: people on my team that have scaled restaurants. Because I'd
- 50:46Speaker 2: sit here and be lying to you if I said
- 50:48Speaker 2: that I just do all of this myself. Do I
- 50:50Speaker 2: read books to get better and become a better CEO. Absolutely,
- 50:53Speaker 2: But it wasn't just a money play. It was strategic
- 50:56Speaker 2: partnerships because I wanted to have people come into my
- 50:59Speaker 2: business that I've done this before, that have built billion
- 51:02Speaker 2: dollar companies that can help me build my billion dollar company.
- 51:04Speaker 2: And that's why I did it, and I'm happy that
- 51:07Speaker 2: I did it. For a long time, I'm like.
- 51:09Speaker 4: No, me my like I'm not sharing, like this is
- 51:11Speaker 4: my business.
- 51:12Speaker 3: I'm not going under that.
- 51:13Speaker 2: I think that every entrepreneur goes through that that has
- 51:16Speaker 2: like a budding business that's growing. I was very selfish
- 51:19Speaker 2: with my business, as I should be, right, but I
- 51:21Speaker 2: realized that you go stronger together, and that was a
- 51:25Speaker 2: very hard lesson for me to learn. We've always been
- 51:27Speaker 2: cash flow positive, we've always been good, but I realized,
- 51:30Speaker 2: if you really want to grow this company and create
- 51:32Speaker 2: generational wealth for your family.
- 51:34Speaker 4: You got to get on a money team. You got
- 51:36Speaker 4: to get on a winning team.
- 51:37Speaker 2: And a winning team looks like operational support from a
- 51:41Speaker 2: Danny Meyer who has created and grown Shakeshack to the
- 51:44Speaker 2: billion dollar company that it is. And then my leave
- 51:47Speaker 2: Richie Ludennis, who owns Essence magazine at Essence Festival, he's
- 51:51Speaker 2: the marketing guru, right, Like, that's access to a whole
- 51:55Speaker 2: new audience that I can always tap into as my investor.
- 51:58Speaker 4: So I had to be strategic about it. And now
- 52:01Speaker 4: I got the too.
- 52:02Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's on my team, the Michael Jordan of marketing.
- 52:05Speaker 2: I got the Michael Jordan of food, and then you
- 52:07Speaker 2: got pinky Cold. Like that's a recipe for success. So
- 52:10Speaker 2: I'm so happy that I did it, and I'm looking
- 52:13Speaker 2: forward to the level of growth that's about to take
- 52:15Speaker 2: place because of this.
- 52:16Speaker 6: So you when you were raised in the Capitol, we
- 52:18Speaker 6: didn't get a call, by the way, yeah number So
- 52:23Speaker 6: the plan all right? So now you have this capital
- 52:26Speaker 6: and I've read somewhere twenty locations, that's the immediate goal.
- 52:31Speaker 2: Speaking conservatively conservatives, So I rather when they say under
- 52:36Speaker 2: something and over deliver.
- 52:37Speaker 3: Under promise, over delivered yes, I'd rather.
- 52:39Speaker 4: Under promise and over deliver.
- 52:42Speaker 2: And what we're doing now is and being totally transparent.
- 52:45Speaker 2: It cost me more than six hundred and fifty thousand
- 52:48Speaker 2: dollars to build one location, right, but we're trying to
- 52:52Speaker 2: find ways to lower that cause so that we can
- 52:54Speaker 2: build more locations. Right.
- 52:55Speaker 4: That's business, that's what you do.
- 52:58Speaker 2: But hopefully it'll be more than twenty. But just speaking conservatively.
- 53:01Speaker 7: So the goal is to obviously be a billion dollar company,
- 53:05Speaker 7: and so real estate is one of your plays. And
- 53:07Speaker 7: so I'm wondering how how do we get it from
- 53:10Speaker 7: the one hundred million valuation to the billion dollar valuation?
- 53:13Speaker 3: Is it now?
- 53:14Speaker 7: Making it a real estate kind of out like what
- 53:16Speaker 7: McDonald's has done. And real estate is the business, but
- 53:19Speaker 7: the food is what brings you to the real estate.
- 53:21Speaker 3: Is that what you're doing or it is from the beginning? Okay?
- 53:26Speaker 3: Are we adding other things to make it? The evaluation
- 53:28Speaker 3: go up? So that too.
- 53:29Speaker 2: So we have a seventy percent thirty percent portfolio, so
- 53:32Speaker 2: seventy percent of the proper sludy vegan businesses.
- 53:35Speaker 4: I own the real estate, right, And.
- 53:38Speaker 2: The reason why I did that is because I wanted
- 53:40Speaker 2: to go in inner city communities, communities that developers aren't
- 53:44Speaker 2: so attractive to, and areas that are right in the
- 53:47Speaker 2: harder gentrification. And what slay Vegan does is go into
- 53:50Speaker 2: the neighborhood, raise up the value of that community how
- 53:53Speaker 2: other business owners because we always got lines down the block,
- 53:56Speaker 2: so they win when we win, we win when they win, right,
- 53:59Speaker 2: And that has worked for us, And I always said
- 54:01Speaker 2: that if for whatever reason, Slutty Vegan does not work out,
- 54:04Speaker 2: I own the real estate. So now we raise the
- 54:07Speaker 2: value of the buildings that we own and it taps
- 54:11Speaker 2: into what the overall company is worth.
- 54:13Speaker 4: That's one.
- 54:14Speaker 2: Secondly, I own Barvegan, and Barvegan is a sister concept
- 54:18Speaker 2: of Slutty Vegan, which is doing extremely well in Atlanta.
- 54:21Speaker 2: So we're also scaling Barvegan. So now I got two
- 54:24Speaker 2: multimillion dollar companies. So I'm putting bar Vegan in big
- 54:28Speaker 2: cities only, so it's a tourist attraction in big cities only.
- 54:31Speaker 2: So the revenue from bar Vegan will tap into the
- 54:34Speaker 2: Slutdy Vegan revenue and then it'll go to the overall valuation.
- 54:38Speaker 2: So we're very strategic in how we do it. Oh,
- 54:40Speaker 2: the other piece that I didn't even mention is we're
- 54:42Speaker 2: now in targets with our dip. We got a chicken dip,
- 54:46Speaker 2: and we got a chicken dip in a spinish dip.
- 54:51Speaker 2: But what we're doing is now we have a whole
- 54:52Speaker 2: retail department. So the retail business is a whole other
- 54:56Speaker 2: business outside of.
- 54:57Speaker 4: The burgers, fries, and pies. And we just.
- 54:59Speaker 2: Got a big order from a really really big grocery
- 55:02Speaker 2: chain and they order sixty thousand units of our depth.
- 55:05Speaker 2: So as we continue to grow out that department, then
- 55:08Speaker 2: we have the restaurants that we continue to scale. We
- 55:11Speaker 2: have new concepts that we'll be building out. We got
- 55:14Speaker 2: a movie in the works. We got a cookbook called
- 55:17Speaker 2: Eat Plants, Bitch the dropping in November. All of these
- 55:20Speaker 2: things will tie into the bigger picture.
- 55:22Speaker 3: I saw CBD gummies.
- 55:23Speaker 4: We got CBD gums.
- 55:24Speaker 3: Let's not forget that.
- 55:25Speaker 4: We got bacon, we got seasoning.
- 55:28Speaker 2: We got a lot of stuff, right, which is why
- 55:30Speaker 2: I'm confident about the fact that the company will continue
- 55:34Speaker 2: to be uber successful.
- 55:35Speaker 4: Like one hundred million dollar valuation.
- 55:37Speaker 2: Is good, right, but if you in business, you know
- 55:40Speaker 2: that we still got a long way to go.
- 55:42Speaker 3: Touch that b right. We got to touch bav at
- 55:44Speaker 3: least we got.
- 55:45Speaker 4: To touch the b And it's not just about the money.
- 55:47Speaker 2: It's about the impact and the legacy and the fact
- 55:50Speaker 2: that we've been able to take this company from here
- 55:52Speaker 2: all the way here and we can create something that
- 55:54Speaker 2: people can really be proud of and all of those
- 55:57Speaker 2: things that I told you will get us to that.
- 55:59Speaker 2: And that's just on the business side now, on the
- 56:01Speaker 2: Piggy Coot brand side. I also do real estate outside
- 56:04Speaker 2: of the business, So currently I own about eighteen properties
- 56:08Speaker 2: right now, closing on the property today.
- 56:12Speaker 3: Graduates in Atlanta in Atlanta. All your properties in Atlanta.
- 56:16Speaker 4: Most of them. I got some in Birmingham too.
- 56:18Speaker 3: I got Birmham Aladema.
- 56:20Speaker 4: Yeah, I got seven in Birmingham.
- 56:22Speaker 3: Nice place we visited last year.
- 56:24Speaker 4: Birmingham is a great place. But I realized that real
- 56:28Speaker 4: wealth lies in real estate.
- 56:30Speaker 2: So I'm gonna always be straight, whether it's through Slooty
- 56:32Speaker 2: Vegan or whether it's through real estate.
- 56:34Speaker 4: And I'm gonna always be doing.
- 56:35Speaker 3: What's your strategy for real estate? How do you find properties?
- 56:37Speaker 4: Instagram?
- 56:40Speaker 2: So I'll put a message on my Instagram like let
- 56:42Speaker 2: me buy your house, and people DM me and they
- 56:44Speaker 2: tell me, Hey, I got a house.
- 56:45Speaker 4: I'm trying to sell it.
- 56:46Speaker 2: So I usually get to get the houses off market
- 56:49Speaker 2: right at a lower cost, and I ain't got to
- 56:51Speaker 2: pay the hoteys. Sometimes I pick cash, sometimes I don't,
- 56:54Speaker 2: and it's worked out for me. And I'm doing the
- 56:57Speaker 2: buying whole play, right. I got some tenants and I'm
- 57:00Speaker 2: just holding on to these properties. And as I watch
- 57:03Speaker 2: my equity raising value, I'm like, all right, cool, I'm
- 57:05Speaker 2: gonna be straight. So by the time that I turn
- 57:07Speaker 2: forty forty five, then all these streams will be coming
- 57:11Speaker 2: from everywhere and I'll be always good.
- 57:12Speaker 7: So you use your culture capital to build the generational wealth.
- 57:15Speaker 3: Absolutely the power of instagent power instiger. Yeah.
- 57:21Speaker 7: Can we talk about your philanthropy. Let's talk about that obviously.
- 57:25Speaker 7: You know, we saw what you did with Clark Atlanta
- 57:28Speaker 7: and you know, getting LLCs for the graduating class. But
- 57:32Speaker 7: you have an initiative that you're about to start now
- 57:34Speaker 7: with Barrel Bank the Food Trusts.
- 57:36Speaker 3: Can you talk about that.
- 57:38Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of things I want to talk
- 57:39Speaker 2: about here, and this is another important piece for entrepreneurs.
- 57:44Speaker 2: You know, once upon a time you could just sell
- 57:46Speaker 2: products and that was good enough.
- 57:48Speaker 4: But it's not good enough just to sell products.
- 57:49Speaker 2: And I think big corporations see that too, because they
- 57:52Speaker 2: have to find ways to stand in solidarity with small
- 57:55Speaker 2: businesses and communities. That's the only way that you can
- 57:58Speaker 2: win now, right, So had this philanthropic arm. I saw
- 58:02Speaker 2: my mother growing up helping everybody else j making so
- 58:04Speaker 2: you understand and help everybody, right, Like I'll.
- 58:06Speaker 4: Say, we who are you helping?
- 58:07Speaker 1: Now?
- 58:08Speaker 2: But I needed to see my mother do that because
- 58:11Speaker 2: it brings me a level of fulfillment to know that
- 58:13Speaker 2: I could use my resources and my platform to help people.
- 58:17Speaker 2: So in twenty nineteen, I started this foundation, and like
- 58:21Speaker 2: I said before, we've done so much. When Rashardbrooks was
- 58:24Speaker 2: murdered in a Wendy's parking lot, myself and my partner
- 58:27Speaker 2: we paid for life insurance.
- 58:29Speaker 4: We bought a brand new car for the family.
- 58:31Speaker 2: We partnered with CAU to provide six hundred thousand dollars
- 58:33Speaker 2: worth of scholarships. I've paid the local rents of businesses,
- 58:37Speaker 2: partner with Steve Harvey and Marjorie Harvey Foundation to provide
- 58:41Speaker 2: lights for families. Myself and Derek just recently partnered with
- 58:44Speaker 2: Prudential Life insurance to provide every single Black man in
- 58:48Speaker 2: Atlanta that makes thirty thousand dollars or less life insurance
- 58:51Speaker 2: that we pay for that they don't have to pay.
- 58:53Speaker 3: For life got the Square one program.
- 58:55Speaker 4: That's the Square one program, which.
- 58:57Speaker 2: Is a really big deal because we really don't talk
- 58:59Speaker 2: about life insurance in our communities.
- 59:01Speaker 4: Right, so now we are being the change that we
- 59:03Speaker 4: wish to see.
- 59:03Speaker 2: To make that happen, the LLC's doing the commencement and
- 59:07Speaker 2: providing all eight hundred and twenty four students with the
- 59:11Speaker 2: path to entrepreneurship. Right that you know, we always say
- 59:14Speaker 2: in our communities that we don't have access to information.
- 59:16Speaker 4: Now you do. Here you go, and I'm not just
- 59:18Speaker 4: giving you an LLC.
- 59:19Speaker 2: I'm giving you the pathway to learn about financial literacy
- 59:22Speaker 2: and what you could do with that LLC whether you
- 59:24Speaker 2: work with somebody or not, and then borrow Bank. We're
- 59:27Speaker 2: about to do a food truck tour where I'm continuing
- 59:31Speaker 2: to offer LLC.
- 59:32Speaker 4: Right like, freedom is what I talk to y'all about
- 59:35Speaker 4: in the beginning.
- 59:36Speaker 2: Right, freedom is the best feeling in the world because
- 59:40Speaker 2: it allows you the ability to do all the things
- 59:42Speaker 2: that you want to do on your time on your time,
- 59:46Speaker 2: and if I can teach people how to capitalize off
- 59:49Speaker 2: their own freedom, we'd have more entrepreneurs in the world.
- 59:52Speaker 2: We will create more opportunities. And I'm not saying everybody
- 59:55Speaker 2: I'll be an entrepreneur. I want to be very clear,
- 59:57Speaker 2: because you know there's this thing that like, oh, well,
- 59:58Speaker 2: some people want to work a nine. I absolutely, But
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: for the people who want to create that level of
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: freedom for themselves and build generational wealth, I want.
- 1:00:07Speaker 4: To be able to help them tap into that.
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: And I'm doing that with providing them with that pathway
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: to be able to start their own awful.
- 1:00:15Speaker 6: So let's talk about this conversation. We talked about your pole, Laby.
- 1:00:18Speaker 6: Look at McDonald's all publicly traded companies. Is that a
- 1:00:23Speaker 6: plan to take your company to the stock market?
- 1:00:26Speaker 2: You know, I thought about that, And it's funny this
- 1:00:28Speaker 2: part of the conversation is always so taboo because some
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: people like, don't talk about that, don't tell them what
- 1:00:32Speaker 2: you gonna do, You don't tell your plans.
- 1:00:34Speaker 4: But I'm just.
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: Rolling with it, right Like if you would have asked
- 1:00:39Speaker 2: me that four years ago, I wouldn't know the answer
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: to that. I wouldn't know that I would have all
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: these locations and doing so well and raise this money.
- 1:00:46Speaker 4: I wouldn't know that.
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: But what I do know is that whatever happens, Sludyvegan
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: will be a household name. Whatever happens, I'm going to
- 1:00:54Speaker 2: create opportunity for other people. Some days I'm like, damn,
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: this will be dope to go public as a company
- 1:00:59Speaker 2: because I and who I am because of the community.
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: Why not let the community tap into that. And then
- 1:01:04Speaker 2: some days I'm like, Okay, maybe one day I will
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: sell my company.
- 1:01:06Speaker 4: Who knows? And the some days I'm like, I ain't
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: selling shit. You know what I'm saying.
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: I I'm just pass this down to my family. And
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: all days I'm like, whatever it is. The beauty and
- 1:01:16Speaker 2: the business is that I got options and I can
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: make those decisions.
- 1:01:20Speaker 4: If I want to.
- 1:01:21Speaker 2: But I'm really focused on building the brand and scaling culture.
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: The hardest thing in the world that I'm dealing with
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: right now is learning how to scale culture. It sounds easy, right,
- 1:01:32Speaker 2: but how do I make this experience at my Edgeate
- 1:01:35Speaker 2: location be the same experience at my Gwenett location, my Athens,
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: my New York location. Scaling culture is so important because
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: that's really what the business relies on the culture, and
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: if the culture is not there, then I have nothing.
- 1:01:49Speaker 2: The food can be good all day long, but that
- 1:01:51Speaker 2: culture is customer service. That culture is how the employees
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: show up to the consumer. That culture is the internal customer,
- 1:01:58Speaker 2: which is the employee. Make it sure where they're happy.
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: You know.
- 1:02:02Speaker 2: Right now, it's the biggest labor shortage in the market
- 1:02:05Speaker 2: that we've ever had before. So I had to start
- 1:02:07Speaker 2: incentiviizing my employees in a different way, raising a minimum wage,
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: giving them life insurance, giving them full benefits if they're
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: just crew members and making.
- 1:02:16Speaker 4: Forty hours a week. Right.
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: But I'm focused on scaling culture and once I can
- 1:02:20Speaker 2: master that, then I'll start thinking about the other things.
- 1:02:23Speaker 3: So it's this vegan conversation. There different side to this coin.
- 1:02:28Speaker 3: I'm learning.
- 1:02:30Speaker 6: There's like the plant based people who are like, they're
- 1:02:35Speaker 6: like hardliners. Have you got pushed back from that community?
- 1:02:41Speaker 2: What your meanity to say hardliners? Because I think you
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: mean the vegans are the hard miners.
- 1:02:48Speaker 6: Light So like my god, nineteen Keys, right, So nineteen
- 1:02:51Speaker 6: Keys real big online thought leader. So he did a
- 1:02:54Speaker 6: show with I forgot the gentleman's name, but he's in
- 1:02:56Speaker 6: the nutrition, and he was like, I don't call myself vegan.
- 1:03:00Speaker 6: I'm plant based because vegans, you technically you could be
- 1:03:03Speaker 6: a vegan and eat, you know, French fries and drink
- 1:03:06Speaker 6: beer and you know, you don't necessarily have to eat healthy.
- 1:03:10Speaker 6: So some people say, like the soy products, your stuff
- 1:03:14Speaker 6: may not necessarily be as healthy as like vegans that
- 1:03:20Speaker 6: only eat like chickpeas and vegetables like raw vegetables. So
- 1:03:26Speaker 6: have you had any push you back from that? What's
- 1:03:29Speaker 6: your thoughts on that?
- 1:03:30Speaker 4: I don't care. I'll tell you why I don't care.
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: I think the problem has been with veganism for so
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: long is that we put so many labels. And I
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: can say it because I'm a part of the lifestyle.
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: There's always been so many labels. I've seen vegans like, well,
- 1:03:43Speaker 2: if you don't eat this, then you're gonna die, and
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: like you're gonna like, I'm not that kind of vegan.
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: If you want to eat a steak, that's up to you.
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: But I'm here going to eat my chickpeas and i'ma
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: had made my little process vegan burger here and there
- 1:03:54Speaker 2: because I like to eat it right, and I'm gonna
- 1:03:56Speaker 2: feel better about myself and you can feel better about
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: yourself and there is no judge and we can coexist.
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: My partner, who I have children with, is not vegan, right,
- 1:04:04Speaker 2: and he can live how he want to live. I
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: tell him the food that I eat if you want
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: to eat what I'm eating, and that's cool. But what
- 1:04:10Speaker 2: makes Lutdy Vegan successful is we don't push our agenda
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: on anybody, right, And I think that that is what
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: really separates us, because it doesn't feel like just a
- 1:04:19Speaker 2: vegan concept and like, oh we're this glorified group that's
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: better than everybody else. This ain't that my audience is
- 1:04:26Speaker 2: not vegan. Ninety seven percent of the people who come
- 1:04:28Speaker 2: to Slutty Vegan are meat eaters, and we like it
- 1:04:31Speaker 2: that way. The name of my book is Eat Plants, Bitch,
- 1:04:34Speaker 2: ninety one recipes to blow your meat loving mind. Like
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: I'm tapping into the people who eat pork, chicken, beef,
- 1:04:41Speaker 2: because if I can change your consciousness, whether it's with
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: vegan burgers and fries, then I know I've done something right.
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: And the goal is to do everything in moderation. I'm
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: not going to sit here and tell you to eat
- 1:04:52Speaker 2: lett vegan every single day, all day. That's just not
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: what I'm going to do, and I'm always transparent about that,
- 1:04:57Speaker 2: But I do want you to understand how vegan can
- 1:05:00Speaker 2: be healthier, even if it starts at burgers and fries,
- 1:05:03Speaker 2: even if you want to do it for the animals.
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: There's so many reasons why you can do it. So
- 1:05:07Speaker 2: I asked you about the hard line question is because
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: there's a difference between vegan and plant based living. Vegans
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: are people who don't eat, don't wear leather, they don't
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: eat any animal products or any animal byproducts. Somebody who
- 1:05:20Speaker 2: is plant based will wear leather, right, but will not
- 1:05:23Speaker 2: eat meat, So.
- 1:05:24Speaker 4: There's a difference.
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: My mission is to remove all of those labels, whether
- 1:05:29Speaker 2: you're flexitarian, vegetarian, meat eater, I just want you to
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: have some options that didn't require an animal to be slaughtered, right,
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: And if I can get you to try this vegan
- 1:05:39Speaker 2: burger and fry and you like it, then I know
- 1:05:41Speaker 2: you can go to the next restaurant and get an
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: alkaline meal. Then you go to the next restaurant and say,
- 1:05:45Speaker 2: you know, I have seldy vegan vegan food is actually
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: kind of good. What y'all got this vegan on the menu,
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: and that is the goal. And if I can can
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: do that by meeting people where they are, then I
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: know for sure that eventually we'll have more people that'll
- 1:05:57Speaker 2: start to eat healthier or think about eating the deal
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: for food and just transforming their lifestyles.
- 1:06:03Speaker 7: So obviously, when the business scales and you have a
- 1:06:07Speaker 7: bunch of locations franchises, right, is there a program for
- 1:06:11Speaker 7: franchise ors? So if I wanted to have any No,
- 1:06:16Speaker 7: So how the processes a private it's all private.
- 1:06:18Speaker 3: Corporately old, Okay.
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: I'm still building a brand. It's still a baby. Think
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: about three and a half year old, still learning. You
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: just started learning how to walk not too long ago.
- 1:06:29Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. We're still fixing our operation.
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: We got speed bumps, We're still getting it right, which
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: is why I brought in the operational support because we
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: ain't got it all together.
- 1:06:37Speaker 3: Yeah. Is that a vision though long term?
- 1:06:41Speaker 4: Not right now?
- 1:06:42Speaker 2: And if I do, it has to be an operator
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: that has been in business for a while that it's
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: proven to scale restaurants.
- 1:06:49Speaker 4: And the reason why is because I ain't do this
- 1:06:51Speaker 4: for money.
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: Right right now, I could say, y'all, I'm franchising, and
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: I could be a billionaire two day franchising my business, right,
- 1:06:59Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
- 1:07:00Speaker 4: People on a franchise Blood Vegan. I could do that
- 1:07:01Speaker 4: right now.
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: But I realized the bigger picture, and the bigger picture
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: here is that I'm very intentional about what I do.
- 1:07:08Speaker 4: And if I do that today, then the true essence of.
- 1:07:10Speaker 3: The business I'm a losing get lost here.
- 1:07:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd rather continue to build it and then who
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: knows what may happen down the line. But right now
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: I'm in a good space and I'm happy where I'm at.
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: I'm happy about the build.
- 1:07:19Speaker 7: So one of the things that our brothers that some
- 1:07:22Speaker 7: of the Huskies they is they got Obviously you said
- 1:07:24Speaker 7: you had to deal with Believe target right for the
- 1:07:26Speaker 7: dip our frozen goods via like the sandwiches one of
- 1:07:32Speaker 7: the vision or on the vision board, so that we
- 1:07:34Speaker 7: can consume it if we can't come to atlant or
- 1:07:37Speaker 7: we can't get to one of the locations hot pockets.
- 1:07:39Speaker 3: Yeah, like we can actually get it in our grocery store.
- 1:07:41Speaker 2: So you will be able to get something in the
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: grocery store, but it will be our proprietary patty.
- 1:07:46Speaker 7: Okay, okay, So the frozen like a beyond me type situation, Yeah, okay, because.
- 1:07:51Speaker 4: I mean that that is where the real wealth fits.
- 1:07:54Speaker 3: I'll take you. I'll take it all right out a
- 1:07:57Speaker 3: little man.
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: And obviously I have great partner shout out to possible
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: and beyond me. But as we scale and grow, we
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: realized that if we have our own proprietary patty, one
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: day people will support it and they buy into it.
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: So we're in the R and D phase working on
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: some things and I'm.
- 1:08:13Speaker 3: Excited about that. I'm excited that really big.
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: Yes, Now we step into the marketplace with a whole
- 1:08:19Speaker 2: new product that really created this whole conglomerate of a business,
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: and once we become successful with that, the stores just
- 1:08:27Speaker 2: become the face front.
- 1:08:29Speaker 3: Well, I'll take it. I'll tell you. I'm be honest
- 1:08:31Speaker 3: with you.
- 1:08:31Speaker 7: When I told my wife that we were sitting down
- 1:08:33Speaker 7: with you, she was like, can you bring back a burger?
- 1:08:36Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, we're doing it.
- 1:08:38Speaker 7: I said, we're doing it. I'm not coming home for
- 1:08:40Speaker 7: five days. She was like, put it in Mikey's friends.
- 1:08:42Speaker 7: I said, no, you got to come back to it.
- 1:08:44Speaker 7: Let we can't do that.
- 1:08:46Speaker 6: I mean, it's good. And to be honest, you know,
- 1:08:49Speaker 6: that's kind of how my mom's vegetarian. She been a
- 1:08:52Speaker 6: vegetarian pretty much my whole life, and she used to
- 1:08:55Speaker 6: she always to this day she cooks like the with
- 1:08:57Speaker 6: the bacon and the and the burger, isn't I never
- 1:09:00Speaker 6: got into it because I'm like, it's fake.
- 1:09:03Speaker 3: Like I said, that was my mindset, that was my mind.
- 1:09:06Speaker 3: I'm like, that's true, but.
- 1:09:11Speaker 6: I've changed that, Like eating your food, couple other people's
- 1:09:14Speaker 6: food and I'm like, it's actually good. So like for years,
- 1:09:17Speaker 6: I actually I would not eat it. For years, I
- 1:09:20Speaker 6: would not eat the bacon and crazy.
- 1:09:24Speaker 3: The first place I had turkey bags at your crib,
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: well that's turkey.
- 1:09:27Speaker 9: I know.
- 1:09:27Speaker 3: I'm just saying I always got vegan bake, vegan baked.
- 1:09:32Speaker 3: So I say that to say, that's not easy to do.
- 1:09:36Speaker 6: You changed my mind on it, and my own mom
- 1:09:39Speaker 6: didn't even I didn't taste her food for a long time.
- 1:09:42Speaker 6: So that says a lot your cultural influence. And you're
- 1:09:47Speaker 6: doing a great job. I think we got a classic interview.
- 1:09:51Speaker 6: What do you guys think? I would say?
- 1:09:52Speaker 3: So, I think you already I really appreciate you taking
- 1:09:56Speaker 3: the time.
- 1:09:59Speaker 7: That night when I was definitely was the first person
- 1:10:00Speaker 7: that said it, And so they were like, before we go,
- 1:10:03Speaker 7: we got to ask, is there like a front of
- 1:10:05Speaker 7: the line passed? Leisia pulls off, they got a fun
- 1:10:11Speaker 7: of the line.
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: Pass It could be in front of the line passed.
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: But you know, I'm a business woman first, so I'm like, well,
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: how can we collaborate.
- 1:10:18Speaker 6: Limited the limited edition Lisha Berger in store pop up?
- 1:10:23Speaker 6: Oh that's major, and you're coming to New York, so
- 1:10:25Speaker 6: you know, we got something crazy to New York.
- 1:10:29Speaker 2: We having a black party. I already got the stand
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: of approval from the mayor. Maybe y'all come and do
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: an episode too.
- 1:10:35Speaker 6: Easy this summer well July all right, yeah la day,
- 1:10:41Speaker 6: Yeah in New York in Brooklyn, Okay, oh boy, yeah boy, let's.
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: Figure that out. You can't come to New York without
- 1:10:52Speaker 3: tapping with us.
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: We definitely got to do that because let me tell
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: you something, in the next five years, Sludy Vegan will
- 1:11:00Speaker 2: in fact be a household name around the world.
- 1:11:02Speaker 4: So this will be a classic.
- 1:11:04Speaker 3: That's a fact. That's a fact.
- 1:11:05Speaker 7: And you know when we go, when we go to Africa,
- 1:11:08Speaker 7: we got to let you know, and so we can
- 1:11:10Speaker 7: go together.
- 1:11:10Speaker 6: I got something I want to ask you to off
- 1:11:12Speaker 6: camera because you said closed mouths don't confete or something
- 1:11:15Speaker 6: like that.
- 1:11:16Speaker 3: But what would you like to tell the people?
- 1:11:18Speaker 6: Any last words of social media handles, locations, website and
- 1:11:22Speaker 6: all that stuff.
- 1:11:23Speaker 4: Yeah, well not that, because I mean I.
- 1:11:25Speaker 3: Feel like everybody al ready know that.
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: But I specifically want to talk to entrepreneurs. You are
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: literally looking at somebody who comes from humble beginnings. I'm
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: the first to go to college. My father was incarcerated
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: nearly all of my life. My mother put her dreams
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: on hold to make sure that everybody was good. I literally,
- 1:11:49Speaker 2: two years ago just paid my student loans off of
- 1:11:51Speaker 2: one check with Miss Lucy and Nabby and two and sixty.
- 1:11:55Speaker 4: Thousand dollars one time.
- 1:11:58Speaker 2: And I say all that to say that, like, I
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: am living proof that nothing is impossible. And if you
- 1:12:05Speaker 2: got a dream, that thing that makes your belly leap,
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: and it gets me emotional because you know how some
- 1:12:10Speaker 2: people are like I made it, and I'm like every
- 1:12:12Speaker 2: day I'm like, damn, I made it, and I'm nowhere
- 1:12:14Speaker 2: where I want to be. But if you got a
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: dream and you got that vision and make your belly leap.
- 1:12:20Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck. Don't let nobody tell you
- 1:12:22Speaker 4: can't do it.
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: Don't let nobody tell you that your dream is not
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: big enough, that it's too small.
- 1:12:27Speaker 4: You gotta keep doing that thing.
- 1:12:30Speaker 2: Because if I would have stopped at that restaurant at Halem,
- 1:12:33Speaker 2: I would not be here.
- 1:12:35Speaker 3: So that's my advice.
- 1:12:36Speaker 2: I'm pregnant some pride, but that is my advice for
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: entrepreneurs because every day I wake up.
- 1:12:43Speaker 4: Let me tell you something.
- 1:12:46Speaker 2: Have you ever in your life said that your wildest
- 1:12:49Speaker 2: dreams came true? Literally, my wildest dreams have come true.
- 1:12:53Speaker 2: It's not a dream that has not been fulfilled in
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: my life. And not many people in the world could
- 1:12:57Speaker 2: say that. And it's because of to nasty, it's because
- 1:13:01Speaker 2: of grit, It's because I didn't give up. So if
- 1:13:04Speaker 2: you are an entrepreneur, these are real tears from somebody
- 1:13:08Speaker 2: who got it out the mud. And I will build
- 1:13:11Speaker 2: a billion dollar brand and you can just believe me yourself,
- 1:13:15Speaker 2: and you can.
- 1:13:15Speaker 4: Find me on Google.
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: Help me thereby. But now, y'all, let me tell you
- 1:13:28Speaker 3: something for real.
- 1:13:29Speaker 4: Man, Like you said something when I came in. He
- 1:13:32Speaker 4: was like, Bolly, you're a celebrity. I'm like, no, I'm not.
- 1:13:34Speaker 2: But and then I was a Good Morning American and
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: it was like you like the Morning Day Oprah.
- 1:13:39Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, like you put me in a sentence
- 1:13:41Speaker 4: with people like that, like that's big.
- 1:13:44Speaker 3: It's really big.
- 1:13:46Speaker 4: And then I look at my bank account and I'm like.
- 1:13:48Speaker 3: That I got one.
- 1:13:53Speaker 4: I'm looking at rad was like damn, I got one
- 1:13:55Speaker 4: of you.
- 1:13:58Speaker 9: And it's so humbling and it's funny because the more
- 1:14:01Speaker 9: money I got there, I'm so cheap. I'm cheap as
- 1:14:03Speaker 9: like I'm frugal like and it's just a good feeling
- 1:14:07Speaker 9: because I'm like I wish I could bottle this feeling
- 1:14:10Speaker 9: up and sell it because I got so much gratitude,
- 1:14:14Speaker 9: which is what I always see right by people, because
- 1:14:17Speaker 9: I get blessings y'all back today.
- 1:14:19Speaker 4: Every week is a blessing. Every single week I get
- 1:14:23Speaker 4: a new blessing.
- 1:14:23Speaker 2: Like I'm like, why me, Like I'm just me, but
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: every single week something is good, something good is happening
- 1:14:30Speaker 2: for me, and I'm just so grateful with like the
- 1:14:33Speaker 2: support and to note that people really love me.
- 1:14:36Speaker 4: Like I'm like what I do? You know what I'm saying,
- 1:14:39Speaker 4: But it's a good feeling.
- 1:14:41Speaker 3: He's becoming an inspiration. Yeah.
- 1:14:44Speaker 6: When we did the Steve Harvey episode, I think we
- 1:14:47Speaker 6: gotta have.
- 1:14:50Speaker 2: He like me.
- 1:14:51Speaker 6: When we did the Steve Harvey episode, I was like, Yo,
- 1:14:53Speaker 6: we're gonna win an Emmy for this, Like this is
- 1:14:55Speaker 6: an award winning journalism. I get this feeling from this
- 1:14:59Speaker 6: EPI so that situation. I feel like this is a
- 1:15:04Speaker 6: legendary situation every aspect, education, entertainment, inspiration, inspiration, and ending
- 1:15:11Speaker 6: with just like a movie and items too.
- 1:15:14Speaker 3: It's not a podcast, it's a movie.
- 1:15:15Speaker 4: It's definitely a movie. I pray that everybody that watched
- 1:15:18Speaker 4: just follows that movie. Yeah, because it's a sequel to
- 1:15:21Speaker 4: this movie, is.
- 1:15:23Speaker 6: Gonna keep going stay tuned. It's called stay tuned. So
- 1:15:28Speaker 6: let us know about the block party. Definitely want to
- 1:15:31Speaker 6: do that as long as we in town. That's that's
- 1:15:33Speaker 6: too easy for us to do. And like I said,
- 1:15:35Speaker 6: I want, I want, we got something big. I would
- 1:15:38Speaker 6: like you to be a part of it if you can.
- 1:15:41Speaker 2: Y'all got tears out of men crowd.
- 1:15:47Speaker 3: America couldn't do that. It's called the Biggest Shroy housekeeping
- 1:15:51Speaker 3: items man.
- 1:15:53Speaker 7: I just I was touched and motivated and I'm extremely
- 1:15:57Speaker 7: humbled by you being so authentic today. I just want
- 1:16:00Speaker 7: to say, man, nothing happens before its time. Like I said,
- 1:16:03Speaker 7: we've been trying to sit down for two years and
- 1:16:05Speaker 7: we're just super patient about it. But the time it
- 1:16:07Speaker 7: couldn't have been more right, more perfect than it is
- 1:16:10Speaker 7: right now. So I want to salute and congratulate you
- 1:16:12Speaker 7: for everything you've done and anything you're going to continue
- 1:16:14Speaker 7: to do, because like you said, this is just the beginning,
- 1:16:16Speaker 7: right four. We took him four years in business, so
- 1:16:19Speaker 7: I mean, just imagine what Yeah, yeah, yeah, August six
- 1:16:24Speaker 7: a good date. So yeah, just congratulations to you and
- 1:16:27Speaker 7: the entire team and your partner. Uh you know, hopefully
- 1:16:30Speaker 7: one day we'll get a chef steak. So I shout
- 1:16:35Speaker 7: out to all our patrons and everybody on Eyo University,
- 1:16:38Speaker 7: all earned, everybody that's supporting the merch, and everybody's just
- 1:16:40Speaker 7: appointing us on a personal and professional level. We are
- 1:16:43Speaker 7: extremely grateful and we will continue to speak for us
- 1:16:47Speaker 7: and do the work that we've been bestow to do.
- 1:16:49Speaker 3: So loves love, we appreciate y'all. Thank you guys for
- 1:16:52Speaker 3: rock and what us. We'll see you next week. Peace, peace.
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