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S7, Ep 11: Streamer Secrets: Gateway Techniques for New Anglers with Mac Brown · The Articulate Fly

• 0:03
  Hey,
• 0:04
  folks,
• 0:04
  it's
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  Marvin
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  Cash,
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  the
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  host
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  of
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  the
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  Articulate
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  Fly.
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  And
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  we're
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  back
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  with
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  another
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  Casting
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  Angles
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  with
• 0:08
  Mac
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  Brown.
• 0:09
  Mac,
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  how
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  are
• 0:10
  you?
• 0:11
  I'm
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  doing
• 0:12
  great.
• 0:12
  How
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  are
• 0:12
  you
• 0:12
  doing,
• 0:12
  Marvin?
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  As
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  always,
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  I'm
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  just
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  trying
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  to
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  stay
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  out
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  of
• 0:15
  trouble.
• 0:16
  Well,
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  that's
• 0:17
  a
• 0:17
  good
• 0:17
  thing.
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  Yeah,
• 0:19
  you
• 0:19
  live
• 0:19
  a
• 0:19
  little
• 0:19
  bit
• 0:20
  longer,
• 0:20
  you
• 0:20
  may
• 0:20
  not
• 0:20
  have
• 0:20
  as
• 0:21
  much
• 0:21
  fun,
• 0:21
  but,
• 0:21
  you
• 0:22
  know,
• 0:22
  it's
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  kind
• 0:22
  of
• 0:22
  funny.
• 0:22
  We
• 0:22
  were
• 0:23
  talking
• 0:23
  before
• 0:23
  we
• 0:23
  started
• 0:23
  recording,
• 0:24
  and
• 0:24
  we
• 0:24
  wanted
• 0:24
  to
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  talk
• 0:25
  a
• 0:25
  little
• 0:25
  bit
• 0:26
  about
• 0:26
  streamers
• 0:26
  on
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  this
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  episode
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  of
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  Casting
• 0:27
  Angles.
• 0:29
  Yeah,
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  I
• 0:29
  think
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  that
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  would
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  be
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  a
• 0:30
  good.
• 0:31
  A
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  good
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  thing.
• 0:32
  We
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  did
• 0:32
  a
• 0:32
  little
• 0:32
  hike
• 0:33
  today.
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  It's
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  the
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  first
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  time
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  I've
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  been
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  able
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  to
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  walk
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  in
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  about
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  three
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  weeks
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  with
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  the
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  cold
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  SAP.
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  And
• 0:38
  Atlanta
• 0:38
  got
• 0:38
  nice
• 0:38
  weather,
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  and
• 0:39
  so
• 0:39
  today
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  was
• 0:39
  a
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  gorgeous
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  day
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  here.
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  About
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  70
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  degrees,
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  I
• 0:43
  thought.
• 0:43
  Well,
• 0:43
  we
• 0:43
  did
• 0:43
  a
• 0:43
  streamer
• 0:44
  talk
• 0:44
  at
• 0:44
  the
• 0:44
  end
• 0:45
  of
• 0:46
  the
• 0:46
  program,
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  and
• 0:46
  driving
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  back
• 0:47
  home,
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  it
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  just
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  brought
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  back
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  a
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  lot
• 0:48
  of
• 0:49
  memories
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  of
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  when
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  my
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  kids
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  were
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  little
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  and
• 0:52
  how
• 0:52
  we
• 0:52
  got
• 0:52
  them
• 0:53
  started
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  in
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  the
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  whole
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  game
• 0:55
  of
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  fly
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  fishing
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  and
• 0:56
  fly
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  casting
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  and
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  all
• 0:57
  that.
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  And
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  then
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  I
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  thought,
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  well,
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  you
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  just
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  went
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  to
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  Michigan,
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  so
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  tell
• 0:59
  me
• 1:00
  something
• 1:00
  about.
• 1:01
  About
• 1:01
  Michigan,
• 1:02
  what
• 1:02
  you
• 1:02
  learned
• 1:02
  with
• 1:02
  all
• 1:02
  the
• 1:03
  streamer
• 1:03
  gathering.
• 1:04
  Yeah,
• 1:04
  I
• 1:04
  tell
• 1:04
  you,
• 1:05
  it's
• 1:05
  a
• 1:05
  pretty
• 1:05
  amazing
• 1:05
  event.
• 1:06
  So
• 1:07
  it
• 1:07
  was
• 1:07
  the
• 1:07
  third
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  year
• 1:07
  that
• 1:08
  the
• 1:08
  folks
• 1:08
  at
• 1:08
  Schultz
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  Outfitters
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  have
• 1:09
  put
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  on
• 1:09
  Bob
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  in
• 1:10
  the
• 1:10
  Hood.
• 1:10
  And
• 1:10
  I've
• 1:11
  gone
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  for
• 1:11
  the
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  last
• 1:11
  two
• 1:12
  years.
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  And
• 1:12
  it's
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  really,
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  you
• 1:14
  know,
• 1:14
  it's
• 1:14
  a
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  who's
• 1:15
  who
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  of
• 1:16
  everybody
• 1:16
  who's
• 1:17
  kind
• 1:17
  of
• 1:17
  what
• 1:17
  I
• 1:17
  would
• 1:17
  call
• 1:18
  in
• 1:18
  the
• 1:18
  predator
• 1:18
  fly
• 1:19
  game.
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  And
• 1:20
  it
• 1:20
  attracts.
• 1:21
  It's
• 1:21
  sort
• 1:21
  of
• 1:21
  like
• 1:21
  Woodstock
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  for
• 1:22
  those
• 1:22
  guys.
• 1:22
  And
• 1:23
  so
• 1:23
  guys,
• 1:23
  you
• 1:23
  know,
• 1:24
  chasing
• 1:24
  steelhead,
• 1:25
  you
• 1:25
  know,
• 1:26
  massive
• 1:26
  brown
• 1:26
  trout,
• 1:27
  smallmouth
• 1:27
  muskie,
• 1:28
  striper,
• 1:29
  shoal
• 1:29
  bass,
• 1:29
  everything.
• 1:30
  And
• 1:30
  so
• 1:30
  it's
• 1:30
  a
• 1:30
  really.
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  It's
• 1:32
  a
• 1:33
  really
• 1:33
  unique
• 1:33
  thing.
• 1:33
  And
• 1:33
  the
• 1:34
  guys
• 1:34
  at
• 1:34
  Schultz
• 1:34
  Outfitter,
• 1:35
  I
• 1:35
  mean,
• 1:35
  Schultz
• 1:36
  has
• 1:36
  got
• 1:36
  a
• 1:36
  great
• 1:36
  team.
• 1:37
  They
• 1:37
  just
• 1:37
  put
• 1:37
  on
• 1:37
  a
• 1:37
  phenomenal
• 1:38
  event.
• 1:38
  So,
• 1:39
  you
• 1:39
  know,
• 1:39
  there's
• 1:40
  a
• 1:40
  pre
• 1:41
  party
• 1:41
  get
• 1:41
  together
• 1:42
  Friday
• 1:42
  night
• 1:42
  at
• 1:42
  the
• 1:42
  shop,
• 1:43
  and
• 1:43
  Charlie
• 1:43
  Craven
• 1:44
  did
• 1:44
  a
• 1:44
  demo.
• 1:45
  And
• 1:45
  then
• 1:45
  all
• 1:46
  day
• 1:46
  Saturday,
• 1:46
  you
• 1:46
  get
• 1:46
  to
• 1:47
  basically
• 1:47
  their
• 1:48
  35
• 1:48
  tires,
• 1:49
  and
• 1:50
  you
• 1:51
  get
• 1:51
  to
• 1:51
  basically
• 1:51
  literally
• 1:52
  sit
• 1:52
  in
• 1:52
  front
• 1:52
  of
• 1:52
  them.
• 1:52
  Just
• 1:53
  like
• 1:53
  if
• 1:53
  you
• 1:53
  were
• 1:53
  at
• 1:54
  a,
• 1:54
  like
• 1:54
  the
• 1:54
  fly
• 1:55
  tying
• 1:55
  symposium.
• 1:55
  You
• 1:55
  can
• 1:55
  have
• 1:56
  long
• 1:56
  conversations
• 1:56
  with
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  these
• 1:57
  tires
• 1:57
  about
• 1:57
  what
• 1:58
  they're
• 1:58
  doing
• 1:58
  and
• 1:58
  what
• 1:58
  the
• 1:59
  techniques
• 1:59
  are
• 2:00
  and
• 2:01
  their
• 2:01
  demos
• 2:01
  back
• 2:01
  to
• 2:01
  the
• 2:01
  shop
• 2:02
  on
• 2:02
  that
• 2:02
  day.
• 2:02
  And
• 2:02
  then
• 2:02
  Sunday's
• 2:03
  a
• 2:03
  classroom
• 2:03
  day
• 2:04
  for
• 2:04
  people
• 2:04
  to
• 2:04
  take
• 2:04
  classes
• 2:05
  from
• 2:06
  Charlie
• 2:08
  Blaine,
• 2:09
  Doug
• 2:10
  McKnight,
• 2:11
  Chris
• 2:11
  Willen.
• 2:11
  I
• 2:12
  mean,
• 2:12
  just
• 2:12
  tons
• 2:12
  of
• 2:12
  people
• 2:13
  that
• 2:13
  are
• 2:13
  really
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  on
• 2:15
  the
• 2:15
  cutting
• 2:15
  edge
• 2:15
  of
• 2:15
  kind
• 2:15
  of
• 2:16
  what
• 2:16
  people
• 2:16
  are
• 2:16
  doing
• 2:16
  on
• 2:17
  the
• 2:17
  water,
• 2:17
  you
• 2:17
  know,
• 2:17
  kind
• 2:17
  of.
• 2:18
  I
• 2:18
  call
• 2:18
  them
• 2:18
  angler
• 2:19
  tires.
• 2:20
  Right.
• 2:21
  That
• 2:21
  sounds
• 2:22
  like
• 2:22
  a
• 2:22
  great
• 2:22
  time.
• 2:23
  Yeah,
• 2:23
  it
• 2:23
  was
• 2:23
  good.
• 2:24
  And
• 2:24
  I'm
• 2:24
  a
• 2:24
  little
• 2:25
  bit
• 2:25
  tired.
• 2:25
  I
• 2:25
  took
• 2:25
  the
• 2:25
  last
• 2:26
  flight
• 2:26
  back
• 2:27
  from
• 2:27
  Detroit
• 2:28
  last
• 2:28
  night,
• 2:28
  so
• 2:28
  I
• 2:28
  didn't
• 2:28
  get
• 2:29
  home
• 2:29
  till
• 2:29
  midnight.
• 2:29
  So
• 2:29
  I'm
• 2:29
  still
• 2:30
  kind
• 2:30
  of
• 2:30
  digging
• 2:30
  out
• 2:30
  a
• 2:30
  little
• 2:31
  bit,
• 2:31
  but
• 2:31
  I'm
• 2:31
  gonna
• 2:31
  make
• 2:31
  it.
• 2:33
  Well,
• 2:33
  I
• 2:33
  was
• 2:33
  so
• 2:33
  tired
• 2:34
  when
• 2:35
  from
• 2:35
  Atlanta.
• 2:36
  We
• 2:37
  got
• 2:37
  here
• 2:37
  about
• 2:37
  7:30
• 2:38
  and
• 2:38
  I
• 2:38
  fell
• 2:38
  asleep
• 2:39
  right
• 2:39
  after
• 2:39
  I
• 2:39
  got,
• 2:40
  you
• 2:40
  know,
• 2:40
  put
• 2:40
  the
• 2:41
  stuff
• 2:41
  back
• 2:41
  in
• 2:41
  the
• 2:41
  tying
• 2:42
  room,
• 2:42
  suitcases
• 2:43
  and
• 2:43
  stuff,
• 2:43
  and
• 2:44
  I
• 2:44
  fell
• 2:44
  asleep.
• 2:45
  So
• 2:45
  I
• 2:46
  was,
• 2:46
  I
• 2:46
  was
• 2:46
  pretty
• 2:46
  worn
• 2:47
  out
• 2:47
  because
• 2:47
  we
• 2:47
  worked
• 2:48
  Thursday
• 2:48
  to
• 2:49
  Sunday
• 2:49
  night
• 2:49
  and
• 2:50
  the
• 2:50
  talk
• 2:51
  that
• 2:51
  we
• 2:51
  did
• 2:51
  on
• 2:51
  streamers
• 2:52
  was
• 2:52
  kind
• 2:53
  of
• 2:53
  what
• 2:53
  gave
• 2:53
  me
• 2:53
  the
• 2:53
  idea
• 2:54
  since
• 2:54
  you
• 2:54
  were
• 2:54
  up
• 2:54
  there
• 2:55
  around
• 2:55
  all
• 2:55
  this
• 2:55
  predator
• 2:56
  flies.
• 2:56
  And
• 2:57
  I
• 2:57
  was
• 2:57
  talking
• 2:58
  more
• 2:58
  about
• 2:58
  the
• 2:59
  stuff
• 2:59
  I
• 2:59
  grew
• 2:59
  up
• 3:00
  fishing
• 3:00
  as
• 3:00
  a
• 3:00
  kid,
• 3:01
  you
• 3:01
  know,
• 3:02
  as
• 3:02
  a,
• 3:02
  as
• 3:02
  a
• 3:02
  young
• 3:03
  kid
• 3:03
  in
• 3:03
  like
• 3:03
  the
• 3:03
  70s,
• 3:04
  early
• 3:04
  70s,
• 3:04
  the
• 3:04
  stuff
• 3:05
  my
• 3:05
  granddaddy
• 3:05
  would
• 3:05
  have
• 3:05
  been
• 3:06
  fishing
• 3:07
  with
• 3:07
  the
• 3:07
  early
• 3:08
  origination
• 3:09
  of
• 3:09
  like
• 3:10
  the
• 3:10
  patterns
• 3:11
  that,
• 3:11
  that
• 3:11
  were
• 3:11
  common
• 3:12
  to,
• 3:12
  to
• 3:12
  our
• 3:13
  generation
• 3:13
  as
• 3:13
  a
• 3:14
  kid.
• 3:14
  And
• 3:14
  so,
• 3:15
  you
• 3:15
  know,
• 3:15
  that's
• 3:15
  what
• 3:15
  I
• 3:16
  fished
• 3:16
  a
• 3:16
  lot
• 3:16
  as
• 3:16
  a
• 3:16
  kid.
• 3:17
  So
• 3:17
  I
• 3:17
  still
• 3:17
  talk
• 3:17
  about
• 3:18
  those
• 3:18
  and
• 3:18
  where
• 3:18
  they
• 3:18
  came
• 3:19
  from
• 3:19
  and
• 3:19
  who
• 3:19
  invented
• 3:20
  them
• 3:20
  and
• 3:21
  more
• 3:21
  for
• 3:21
  trout,
• 3:22
  you
• 3:22
  know,
• 3:22
  the
• 3:22
  predator
• 3:23
  flies,
• 3:23
  we
• 3:24
  start
• 3:24
  talking
• 3:24
  about
• 3:24
  a
• 3:24
  lot
• 3:24
  of
• 3:24
  other
• 3:25
  larger
• 3:25
  species.
• 3:27
  You
• 3:27
  know,
• 3:27
  I
• 3:27
  never
• 3:27
  really
• 3:27
  pursued
• 3:28
  those
• 3:28
  as
• 3:28
  much
• 3:28
  as
• 3:29
  the
• 3:29
  kids.
• 3:29
  I
• 3:29
  was
• 3:29
  mostly
• 3:30
  always
• 3:30
  going
• 3:30
  after
• 3:30
  trout
• 3:32
  bass
• 3:32
  too,
• 3:33
  but
• 3:33
  I
• 3:33
  mean
• 3:33
  like
• 3:33
  sculpins
• 3:34
  and
• 3:35
  woolly
• 3:35
  boogers
• 3:35
  and
• 3:36
  things
• 3:36
  like
• 3:36
  that.
• 3:36
  And
• 3:37
  you
• 3:37
  know,
• 3:37
  we
• 3:37
  did
• 3:37
  a
• 3:38
  lot
• 3:38
  of
• 3:38
  that
• 3:38
  for
• 3:38
  brook
• 3:38
  trout
• 3:39
  would.
• 3:40
  We
• 3:40
  threw
• 3:40
  a
• 3:40
  lot
• 3:40
  of
• 3:40
  black
• 3:41
  ghosts
• 3:41
  as
• 3:41
  a
• 3:41
  kid
• 3:42
  and
• 3:42
  Mickey
• 3:43
  Finns
• 3:43
  and,
• 3:44
  and
• 3:44
  dice
• 3:44
  and
• 3:45
  all
• 3:45
  those
• 3:45
  kind
• 3:45
  of,
• 3:45
  you
• 3:45
  know,
• 3:46
  black
• 3:46
  nose
• 3:46
  days
• 3:46
  and
• 3:47
  the
• 3:47
  streamers
• 3:47
  that
• 3:47
  were
• 3:48
  common
• 3:48
  to
• 3:48
  that
• 3:48
  time
• 3:48
  period.
• 3:50
  But
• 3:51
  yeah,
• 3:51
  I
• 3:51
  thought
• 3:52
  that'd
• 3:52
  be
• 3:52
  a
• 3:52
  good
• 3:52
  talk
• 3:53
  just
• 3:53
  because
• 3:53
  when
• 3:53
  my
• 3:53
  kids
• 3:54
  were
• 3:54
  small,
• 3:54
  you
• 3:55
  know,
• 3:55
  we
• 3:55
  always
• 3:55
  think
• 3:55
  nowadays,
• 3:56
  you
• 3:56
  know,
• 3:56
  a
• 3:56
  bobber
• 3:57
  is
• 3:57
  a
• 3:57
  good
• 3:57
  way
• 3:57
  to
• 3:58
  gateway
• 3:58
  for
• 3:58
  fly
• 3:59
  fishing.
• 3:59
  Lobbing
• 3:59
  something
• 4:00
  10ft
• 4:00
  over
• 4:00
  the
• 4:01
  side
• 4:01
  of
• 4:01
  the
• 4:01
  boat
• 4:01
  to
• 4:01
  get
• 4:01
  people
• 4:02
  hooked.
• 4:03
  Then
• 4:03
  I
• 4:03
  think
• 4:04
  to
• 4:04
  myself,
• 4:04
  well,
• 4:05
  what
• 4:05
  about
• 4:05
  tight
• 4:05
  line?
• 4:06
  Everybody's
• 4:07
  into
• 4:07
  talking
• 4:07
  about
• 4:07
  the
• 4:08
  tight
• 4:08
  line
• 4:08
  techniques.
• 4:09
  That's
• 4:09
  a
• 4:09
  gateway
• 4:10
  because
• 4:10
  then
• 4:10
  they
• 4:10
  won't
• 4:11
  really
• 4:11
  have
• 4:11
  to
• 4:11
  learn
• 4:11
  to
• 4:11
  cast
• 4:12
  very
• 4:12
  far
• 4:12
  if
• 4:13
  they're
• 4:13
  throwing
• 4:13
  mono
• 4:14
  10,
• 4:14
  20ft.
• 4:15
  And
• 4:16
  I
• 4:16
  just
• 4:16
  remember
• 4:17
  really
• 4:17
  well
• 4:17
  as
• 4:17
  the
• 4:18
  kids,
• 4:18
  because
• 4:18
  I'm
• 4:18
  on
• 4:18
  the
• 4:19
  water
• 4:19
  a
• 4:19
  lot
• 4:20
  as
• 4:20
  a
• 4:20
  guide
• 4:20
  running
• 4:21
  schools
• 4:21
  that
• 4:22
  when
• 4:22
  they
• 4:22
  were
• 4:22
  really
• 4:23
  small,
• 4:23
  like
• 4:23
  three
• 4:23
  and
• 4:24
  four
• 4:24
  years
• 4:25
  old,
• 4:25
  Marvin
• 4:25
  I
• 4:25
  thought,
• 4:26
  you
• 4:26
  know,
• 4:26
  you
• 4:26
  just
• 4:26
  pay
• 4:27
  attention
• 4:27
  and
• 4:27
  like
• 4:28
  they
• 4:28
  got
• 4:28
  a
• 4:28
  DH
• 4:28
  and
• 4:29
  there's
• 4:29
  stock
• 4:29
  and
• 4:30
  Fresh
• 4:30
  fish.
• 4:31
  Take
• 4:31
  a
• 4:31
  kid
• 4:32
  up
• 4:32
  there
• 4:32
  with
• 4:32
  a
• 4:32
  little
• 4:32
  streamer,
• 4:33
  short
• 4:33
  leader,
• 4:34
  three
• 4:34
  feet,
• 4:34
  and
• 4:34
  just
• 4:34
  have
• 4:35
  them
• 4:35
  swing
• 4:36
  it
• 4:36
  just
• 4:36
  a
• 4:36
  few
• 4:36
  feet
• 4:37
  downstream,
• 4:37
  10ft
• 4:38
  below,
• 4:38
  and
• 4:39
  you're
• 4:39
  just
• 4:39
  netting
• 4:40
  fish
• 4:40
  the
• 4:40
  whole
• 4:41
  afternoon
• 4:41
  until
• 4:41
  the
• 4:41
  fish
• 4:42
  get
• 4:42
  wise
• 4:42
  a
• 4:42
  week
• 4:43
  or
• 4:43
  two
• 4:43
  later.
• 4:44
  It's
• 4:44
  a
• 4:44
  great
• 4:45
  way
• 4:45
  to
• 4:45
  get
• 4:45
  people
• 4:45
  started
• 4:46
  into
• 4:46
  fly
• 4:46
  fishing,
• 4:47
  I
• 4:47
  think,
• 4:47
  as
• 4:47
  far
• 4:47
  as
• 4:48
  activity.
• 4:49
  And
• 4:49
  those
• 4:49
  were
• 4:49
  just
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  simple
• 4:50
  patterns,
• 4:51
  you
• 4:51
  know,
• 4:51
  I
• 4:51
  was
• 4:51
  talking
• 4:51
  about
• 4:52
  just
• 4:52
  now.
• 4:52
  So
• 4:54
  then
• 4:54
  everybody
• 4:54
  kind
• 4:55
  of
• 4:55
  forgets.
• 4:55
  The
• 4:55
  streamer
• 4:56
  is
• 4:56
  kind
• 4:56
  of
• 4:56
  a
• 4:56
  gateway.
• 4:57
  You
• 4:57
  don't
• 4:57
  have
• 4:57
  to
• 4:57
  cast
• 4:58
  far.
• 4:58
  Little
• 4:59
  short
• 4:59
  cast,
• 5:00
  swing
• 5:00
  it.
• 5:01
  You
• 5:01
  get
• 5:01
  a
• 5:01
  lot
• 5:01
  of
• 5:01
  nice
• 5:02
  fish
• 5:02
  pretty
• 5:02
  quick.
• 5:03
  So
• 5:03
  I
• 5:04
  thought
• 5:04
  that'd
• 5:04
  be
• 5:04
  a
• 5:04
  good
• 5:05
  talk
• 5:05
  for,
• 5:05
  like,
• 5:06
  since
• 5:06
  we
• 5:06
  have
• 5:06
  a
• 5:06
  lot
• 5:06
  of
• 5:06
  DH
• 5:07
  programs
• 5:07
  here
• 5:07
  in
• 5:08
  North
• 5:08
  Carolina.
• 5:09
  Yeah,
• 5:10
  And
• 5:10
  I
• 5:10
  think
• 5:10
  too,
• 5:11
  you
• 5:11
  know,
• 5:11
  as
• 5:11
  you
• 5:11
  kind
• 5:11
  of
• 5:11
  progress
• 5:12
  in
• 5:12
  that,
• 5:12
  you
• 5:13
  know,
• 5:13
  obviously
• 5:13
  when
• 5:13
  those
• 5:14
  fish
• 5:14
  get
• 5:14
  first
• 5:14
  dropped
• 5:15
  in,
• 5:15
  they're
• 5:15
  not
• 5:15
  very
• 5:15
  educated.
• 5:16
  I
• 5:16
  mean,
• 5:16
  I
• 5:16
  can
• 5:16
  remember
• 5:17
  finding
• 5:17
  some.
• 5:17
  And
• 5:17
  you
• 5:18
  mean
• 5:18
  you
• 5:18
  can
• 5:18
  literally
• 5:18
  hook
• 5:18
  the
• 5:19
  same
• 5:19
  fish
• 5:19
  three
• 5:19
  and
• 5:19
  four
• 5:20
  times?
• 5:20
  Right.
• 5:22
  But
• 5:22
  I
• 5:23
  would
• 5:23
  say,
• 5:23
  you
• 5:23
  know,
• 5:23
  kind
• 5:24
  of
• 5:24
  moving
• 5:24
  through
• 5:24
  that.
• 5:25
  You
• 5:25
  know,
• 5:25
  one
• 5:25
  of
• 5:25
  the
• 5:25
  great
• 5:26
  things
• 5:26
  is
• 5:26
  there's
• 5:26
  actually
• 5:27
  a
• 5:27
  lot
• 5:27
  you
• 5:27
  can
• 5:27
  really
• 5:27
  learn
• 5:28
  about
• 5:28
  line
• 5:28
  control
• 5:29
  fishing.
• 5:29
  You
• 5:29
  know,
• 5:30
  small
• 5:31
  streamers,
• 5:31
  like
• 5:31
  woolly
• 5:32
  boogers
• 5:32
  for
• 5:32
  trout.
• 5:32
  It's
• 5:33
  almost
• 5:33
  like
• 5:33
  learning
• 5:33
  how
• 5:33
  to
• 5:33
  fish
• 5:34
  soft
• 5:34
  tackles
• 5:34
  in
• 5:35
  terms
• 5:35
  of,
• 5:35
  you
• 5:36
  know,
• 5:36
  how
• 5:36
  to.
• 5:36
  How
• 5:36
  to
• 5:36
  swing
• 5:37
  to
• 5:37
  get
• 5:37
  profile,
• 5:38
  how
• 5:38
  to
• 5:38
  speed
• 5:38
  the
• 5:38
  fly
• 5:38
  up,
• 5:39
  how
• 5:39
  to
• 5:39
  slow
• 5:39
  the
• 5:39
  fly
• 5:40
  down.
• 5:40
  And
• 5:40
  if
• 5:40
  you,
• 5:41
  you
• 5:41
  know,
• 5:41
  if
• 5:41
  you
• 5:42
  fish
• 5:42
  with,
• 5:42
  you
• 5:42
  know,
• 5:42
  let's
• 5:43
  just
• 5:43
  say
• 5:43
  you
• 5:43
  fish
• 5:43
  with
• 5:43
  a
• 5:43
  white
• 5:44
  woolly
• 5:44
  booger
• 5:44
  that
• 5:44
  you
• 5:45
  can
• 5:45
  see,
• 5:45
  you
• 5:45
  can
• 5:45
  really
• 5:46
  learn
• 5:46
  a
• 5:46
  lot
• 5:46
  about
• 5:47
  what
• 5:47
  your
• 5:47
  line
• 5:47
  manipulation
• 5:48
  is
• 5:48
  doing
• 5:48
  in
• 5:49
  relation
• 5:49
  to
• 5:49
  your
• 5:49
  fly.
• 5:51
  Exactly.
• 5:52
  And
• 5:52
  you
• 5:52
  learn.
• 5:53
  Yeah.
• 5:53
  With
• 5:53
  mending,
• 5:54
  I
• 5:54
  mean,
• 5:54
  to
• 5:54
  speed
• 5:54
  it
• 5:54
  up
• 5:55
  or
• 5:55
  slow
• 5:55
  it
• 5:55
  down.
• 5:55
  Just
• 5:55
  using
• 5:56
  simple
• 5:56
  men's.
• 5:56
  When
• 5:57
  it's
• 5:57
  getting
• 5:57
  close
• 5:57
  to
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  swinging
• 5:58
  point
• 5:58
  where
• 5:58
  it
• 5:58
  turns
• 5:59
  the
• 5:59
  direction
• 6:00
  at
• 6:00
  the
• 6:00
  fastest
• 6:01
  place,
• 6:01
  like,
• 6:01
  you
• 6:02
  can
• 6:02
  slow
• 6:02
  it
• 6:02
  down
• 6:02
  and
• 6:02
  extend
• 6:03
  it
• 6:03
  by
• 6:03
  taking
• 6:03
  the
• 6:04
  rod,
• 6:04
  you
• 6:05
  know,
• 6:05
  pointing
• 6:05
  at
• 6:05
  different
• 6:06
  places.
• 6:06
  And
• 6:06
  I.
• 6:07
  I've
• 6:07
  got
• 6:07
  pictures
• 6:08
  of
• 6:08
  both
• 6:08
  my
• 6:08
  kids
• 6:08
  at
• 6:09
  like
• 6:09
  2
• 6:09
  and
• 6:09
  3
• 6:09
  years
• 6:09
  old
• 6:10
  doing
• 6:10
  that
• 6:10
  all
• 6:10
  over
• 6:10
  the
• 6:11
  Upper
• 6:11
  and
• 6:12
  up
• 6:12
  by
• 6:12
  Webster
• 6:13
  and
• 6:13
  on
• 6:13
  the
• 6:13
  tuck
• 6:14
  of
• 6:14
  cg,
• 6:14
  you
• 6:14
  know,
• 6:14
  right
• 6:15
  here
• 6:15
  through
• 6:15
  town
• 6:15
  when
• 6:15
  they
• 6:15
  were
• 6:16
  just
• 6:16
  little
• 6:16
  bitty.
• 6:17
  I
• 6:17
  mean,
• 6:17
  they're
• 6:17
  so
• 6:18
  little.
• 6:18
  It
• 6:18
  was
• 6:18
  the
• 6:18
  hardest
• 6:18
  thing
• 6:19
  when
• 6:19
  they
• 6:19
  were
• 6:19
  that
• 6:19
  small,
• 6:20
  Marvin,
• 6:21
  like
• 6:21
  in
• 6:21
  the
• 6:21
  winter
• 6:21
  months,
• 6:21
  was
• 6:22
  to
• 6:22
  find
• 6:22
  something
• 6:22
  to
• 6:23
  keep
• 6:23
  them
• 6:24
  dry
• 6:24
  because
• 6:25
  you
• 6:25
  put
• 6:26
  them
• 6:26
  in
• 6:26
  the
• 6:26
  smallest
• 6:26
  pair
• 6:26
  of
• 6:27
  waders.
• 6:27
  And
• 6:27
  the
• 6:27
  waiters
• 6:27
  would
• 6:28
  be
• 6:28
  taller
• 6:28
  than
• 6:28
  their
• 6:28
  head,
• 6:29
  you
• 6:29
  know,
• 6:29
  so
• 6:29
  I'd
• 6:30
  have
• 6:30
  to
• 6:30
  take
• 6:30
  a
• 6:30
  belt.
• 6:30
  And
• 6:31
  I
• 6:31
  mean,
• 6:31
  it
• 6:31
  was
• 6:31
  kind
• 6:31
  of.
• 6:32
  They
• 6:32
  don't
• 6:32
  really
• 6:32
  make
• 6:33
  waders
• 6:33
  for
• 6:33
  kids
• 6:33
  that
• 6:34
  little,
• 6:34
  you
• 6:34
  know.
• 6:34
  Yeah,
• 6:35
  but
• 6:35
  I
• 6:35
  mean,
• 6:35
  it's
• 6:35
  an
• 6:35
  amazing
• 6:36
  thing.
• 6:36
  I
• 6:36
  mean,
• 6:36
  you
• 6:36
  know,
• 6:36
  because
• 6:37
  if
• 6:37
  you
• 6:37
  sit
• 6:37
  back
• 6:37
  and
• 6:37
  you
• 6:38
  kind
• 6:38
  of
• 6:38
  read
• 6:38
  the
• 6:38
  water
• 6:39
  and
• 6:39
  if
• 6:39
  you're
• 6:39
  fishing,
• 6:40
  you
• 6:40
  know,
• 6:40
  a
• 6:40
  downstream
• 6:41
  swing,
• 6:42
  and
• 6:42
  you'd
• 6:43
  say,
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  know,
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  want
• 6:43
  to
• 6:44
  basically
• 6:44
  fish,
• 6:45
  you
• 6:45
  know,
• 6:45
  in
• 6:45
  front
• 6:45
  of
• 6:46
  a
• 6:46
  rock
• 6:46
  or
• 6:46
  a
• 6:46
  trough,
• 6:47
  and
• 6:47
  you
• 6:47
  basically
• 6:47
  throw
• 6:48
  that
• 6:48
  downstream,
• 6:48
  mend
• 6:49
  in
• 6:49
  the
• 6:49
  line
• 6:49
  right
• 6:49
  when
• 6:50
  you
• 6:50
  want
• 6:50
  that
• 6:50
  fly
• 6:50
  to
• 6:51
  show
• 6:51
  profile
• 6:51
  and
• 6:51
  accelerate,
• 6:52
  it'll
• 6:53
  zip
• 6:53
  right
• 6:53
  in
• 6:53
  front
• 6:53
  of
• 6:53
  that
• 6:54
  rock
• 6:54
  or
• 6:54
  through
• 6:54
  that
• 6:54
  pool
• 6:55
  and
• 6:55
  usually
• 6:55
  trigger
• 6:55
  that
• 6:56
  reaction
• 6:56
  bite.
• 6:58
  Oh,
• 6:58
  yeah,
• 6:58
  yeah.
• 6:59
  And
• 6:59
  that's,
• 6:59
  that's
• 6:59
  the
• 6:59
  fun
• 7:00
  part
• 7:01
  when.
• 7:01
  Yeah,
• 7:02
  when
• 7:02
  you
• 7:02
  get
• 7:02
  a
• 7:02
  positive,
• 7:03
  positive
• 7:03
  result.
• 7:05
  Pretty
• 7:05
  simplistic.
• 7:06
  And
• 7:06
  a
• 7:06
  lot
• 7:06
  of
• 7:06
  advantages
• 7:07
  doing
• 7:07
  that,
• 7:07
  too.
• 7:08
  Talking
• 7:08
  about
• 7:08
  across
• 7:09
  and
• 7:09
  down,
• 7:09
  you
• 7:09
  know,
• 7:09
  with,
• 7:10
  with
• 7:10
  streamer,
• 7:11
  when
• 7:11
  they're.
• 7:11
  When
• 7:11
  they're
• 7:11
  a
• 7:11
  kid
• 7:12
  like
• 7:12
  that
• 7:12
  or
• 7:12
  somebody
• 7:13
  new
• 7:13
  that's
• 7:13
  never
• 7:13
  really
• 7:15
  fished
• 7:15
  a
• 7:15
  lot,
• 7:15
  it
• 7:16
  makes
• 7:16
  it
• 7:16
  pretty
• 7:16
  easy
• 7:16
  because
• 7:16
  you
• 7:17
  got
• 7:17
  the
• 7:17
  tension,
• 7:18
  you
• 7:18
  know,
• 7:18
  to
• 7:19
  all
• 7:19
  the
• 7:19
  way
• 7:19
  to
• 7:19
  the
• 7:19
  fly
• 7:19
  in
• 7:19
  your
• 7:20
  favor
• 7:20
  and
• 7:20
  anything
• 7:20
  that
• 7:21
  hits
• 7:21
  it,
• 7:21
  pretty
• 7:21
  much
• 7:21
  you've
• 7:22
  already
• 7:22
  caught
• 7:22
  it.
• 7:22
  So,
• 7:24
  I
• 7:24
  mean,
• 7:24
  I'm
• 7:24
  not
• 7:24
  saying
• 7:24
  that
• 7:25
  in
• 7:25
  a
• 7:25
  bad
• 7:25
  way
• 7:25
  because
• 7:25
  we
• 7:26
  want
• 7:26
  people
• 7:26
  to
• 7:26
  have
• 7:26
  a
• 7:26
  positive
• 7:27
  experience,
• 7:27
  but,
• 7:28
  you
• 7:28
  know,
• 7:28
  the
• 7:29
  real
• 7:29
  reality
• 7:29
  in
• 7:30
  that
• 7:30
  scenario
• 7:30
  is
• 7:30
  the
• 7:30
  fish
• 7:31
  hooked
• 7:31
  himself.
• 7:31
  I
• 7:32
  mean,
• 7:32
  you're
• 7:32
  just
• 7:32
  holding
• 7:33
  the
• 7:33
  rod
• 7:34
  at
• 7:34
  that
• 7:34
  point,
• 7:34
  but
• 7:35
  it's
• 7:35
  like
• 7:35
  different
• 7:35
  doing
• 7:36
  that
• 7:36
  versus
• 7:36
  throwing
• 7:37
  it
• 7:37
  up,
• 7:37
  pulling
• 7:38
  the
• 7:38
  fly
• 7:38
  in
• 7:38
  the
• 7:38
  speed
• 7:38
  of
• 7:39
  the
• 7:39
  water,
• 7:39
  which
• 7:39
  takes
• 7:39
  more.
• 7:40
  You
• 7:40
  know
• 7:40
  what
• 7:40
  I'm
• 7:40
  saying?
• 7:40
  There's
• 7:40
  a
• 7:40
  whole
• 7:41
  lot
• 7:41
  of
• 7:41
  different
• 7:41
  ways,
• 7:41
  but
• 7:42
  I
• 7:42
  just
• 7:42
  think
• 7:43
  as
• 7:43
  we,
• 7:43
  as
• 7:43
  we
• 7:44
  introduce
• 7:44
  these
• 7:45
  concepts
• 7:46
  to
• 7:46
  people
• 7:46
  that
• 7:46
  are
• 7:46
  fairly
• 7:47
  new
• 7:47
  to
• 7:47
  it,
• 7:48
  I
• 7:48
  think
• 7:49
  it
• 7:49
  makes
• 7:49
  it
• 7:49
  where,
• 7:50
  okay,
• 7:50
  here's
• 7:50
  a
• 7:50
  gateway.
• 7:51
  That's
• 7:51
  fun.
• 7:51
  They
• 7:52
  had
• 7:52
  fun,
• 7:52
  they
• 7:52
  got
• 7:52
  a
• 7:53
  result
• 7:54
  and
• 7:54
  then
• 7:54
  they're
• 7:54
  going
• 7:54
  to
• 7:55
  move
• 7:55
  on.
• 7:55
  Hopefully
• 7:56
  they're
• 7:56
  not
• 7:56
  going
• 7:56
  to
• 7:56
  do
• 7:56
  that
• 7:56
  forever.
• 7:57
  They're
• 7:57
  going
• 7:57
  to
• 7:57
  graduate
• 7:58
  into
• 7:58
  the
• 7:58
  other
• 7:59
  nuances
• 7:59
  of
• 7:59
  the
• 8:00
  sport
• 8:00
  that
• 8:00
  present
• 8:00
  more
• 8:01
  challenges
• 8:01
  and
• 8:01
  more.
• 8:02
  Not
• 8:03
  to
• 8:03
  say.
• 8:03
  I
• 8:03
  mean,
• 8:03
  I
• 8:04
  just
• 8:04
  think
• 8:04
  that's
• 8:04
  kind
• 8:04
  of
• 8:04
  what
• 8:04
  it's
• 8:05
  all
• 8:05
  about.
• 8:05
  I
• 8:05
  mean,
• 8:06
  I
• 8:06
  wouldn't
• 8:06
  take
• 8:06
  a
• 8:06
  kid
• 8:06
  and
• 8:07
  start
• 8:07
  them
• 8:07
  out
• 8:07
  with
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  hardest
• 8:08
  thing,
• 8:08
  by
• 8:08
  any
• 8:08
  means.
• 8:09
  Yeah,
• 8:10
  And
• 8:10
  I
• 8:10
  would
• 8:10
  say
• 8:10
  too,
• 8:11
  you
• 8:11
  know,
• 8:11
  that's
• 8:11
  even
• 8:11
  before
• 8:11
  we
• 8:12
  talk
• 8:12
  about,
• 8:12
  you
• 8:12
  know,
• 8:12
  now
• 8:13
  kind
• 8:13
  of
• 8:13
  the
• 8:13
  comp
• 8:13
  guys
• 8:14
  have
• 8:14
  kind
• 8:14
  of
• 8:14
  brought
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  jig
• 8:15
  hook
• 8:15
  game
• 8:15
  to
• 8:16
  small
• 8:16
  streamers.
• 8:17
  Right.
• 8:17
  And
• 8:18
  so,
• 8:18
  you
• 8:19
  know,
• 8:19
  to
• 8:19
  be
• 8:19
  able
• 8:19
  to
• 8:20
  have
• 8:21
  that
• 8:21
  kind
• 8:21
  of
• 8:21
  line
• 8:22
  control
• 8:23
  and,
• 8:23
  you
• 8:23
  know.
• 8:23
  Cause
• 8:24
  I
• 8:24
  know
• 8:24
  you
• 8:24
  talk
• 8:24
  a
• 8:24
  lot
• 8:24
  about,
• 8:25
  like,
• 8:25
  you
• 8:25
  know,
• 8:25
  it's
• 8:25
  not
• 8:25
  just
• 8:26
  a
• 8:26
  dead
• 8:26
  drift.
• 8:26
  Like
• 8:26
  you've
• 8:27
  got
• 8:27
  multiple
• 8:27
  presentations
• 8:28
  and
• 8:29
  that,
• 8:29
  that
• 8:30
  jig
• 8:30
  presentation
• 8:31
  and
• 8:32
  Particularly
• 8:32
  when
• 8:32
  it's
• 8:33
  cold
• 8:33
  like
• 8:33
  it
• 8:33
  is
• 8:33
  now.
• 8:34
  Like,
• 8:34
  we're
• 8:34
  going
• 8:34
  to
• 8:34
  warm
• 8:34
  up
• 8:34
  a
• 8:35
  little
• 8:35
  bit
• 8:35
  in
• 8:35
  the
• 8:35
  mid
• 8:35
  Atlantic,
• 8:36
  but
• 8:36
  that
• 8:36
  water
• 8:36
  is
• 8:36
  going
• 8:36
  to
• 8:36
  be
• 8:36
  cold
• 8:37
  for
• 8:37
  a
• 8:37
  good
• 8:37
  while.
• 8:38
  The
• 8:38
  ability
• 8:39
  to
• 8:39
  basically
• 8:39
  pause
• 8:40
  and
• 8:40
  hang
• 8:40
  that
• 8:40
  fly
• 8:41
  and
• 8:42
  to
• 8:42
  animate
• 8:42
  it
• 8:43
  is
• 8:44
  a
• 8:44
  really,
• 8:44
  really
• 8:45
  powerful
• 8:45
  bite
• 8:45
  trigger,
• 8:46
  you
• 8:46
  know,
• 8:47
  because
• 8:47
  those
• 8:47
  fish
• 8:47
  are
• 8:47
  going
• 8:47
  to
• 8:48
  be
• 8:48
  pretty
• 8:48
  lethargic.
• 8:48
  So,
• 8:48
  I
• 8:49
  mean,
• 8:49
  that's
• 8:49
  kind
• 8:49
  of
• 8:49
  another
• 8:50
  error
• 8:50
  you
• 8:50
  can
• 8:51
  put
• 8:51
  in
• 8:51
  your
• 8:51
  quiver
• 8:51
  as
• 8:51
  well.
• 8:53
  Oh,
• 8:53
  it
• 8:53
  is.
• 8:54
  And
• 8:54
  then
• 8:54
  it
• 8:54
  goes
• 8:55
  on
• 8:55
  to,
• 8:55
  like,
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  balance.
• 8:56
  You
• 8:56
  know,
• 8:57
  the
• 8:57
  balance
• 8:57
  flies
• 8:57
  for,
• 8:58
  like,
• 8:58
  on
• 8:58
  lakes
• 8:58
  and
• 8:58
  things
• 8:59
  where
• 8:59
  we
• 8:59
  don't
• 9:00
  want
• 9:00
  the
• 9:00
  jigsaw.
• 9:01
  You
• 9:01
  know,
• 9:01
  once
• 9:01
  I
• 9:01
  get
• 9:01
  used
• 9:02
  to
• 9:02
  seeing
• 9:02
  that
• 9:02
  up,
• 9:02
  down,
• 9:02
  I
• 9:03
  mean,
• 9:03
  that
• 9:03
  works
• 9:03
  great.
• 9:04
  When
• 9:05
  I
• 9:05
  hadn't
• 9:05
  seen
• 9:05
  it,
• 9:05
  you
• 9:06
  know,
• 9:06
  jigging
• 9:06
  like.
• 9:07
  Like
• 9:07
  streamers
• 9:08
  and
• 9:08
  things
• 9:09
  in
• 9:09
  a
• 9:10
  deep
• 9:10
  run.
• 9:10
  But
• 9:10
  then
• 9:10
  you
• 9:11
  get
• 9:11
  like,
• 9:11
  in
• 9:11
  the.
• 9:12
  Even
• 9:12
  in
• 9:12
  a
• 9:12
  deep
• 9:12
  run
• 9:12
  in
• 9:12
  the
• 9:12
  winter,
• 9:13
  a
• 9:13
  lot
• 9:13
  of
• 9:13
  times,
• 9:13
  a
• 9:13
  balance,
• 9:14
  something
• 9:15
  that's
• 9:15
  more
• 9:15
  balanced
• 9:15
  actually
• 9:16
  gives
• 9:16
  you
• 9:16
  a
• 9:16
  better
• 9:16
  result,
• 9:17
  which
• 9:18
  is
• 9:18
  fun,
• 9:18
  too,
• 9:19
  for.
• 9:19
  For.
• 9:20
  I
• 9:20
  don't
• 9:20
  know.
• 9:20
  I
• 9:21
  had
• 9:21
  to
• 9:21
  do
• 9:21
  that
• 9:21
  a
• 9:21
  lot.
• 9:21
  I
• 9:22
  remember
• 9:22
  fishing
• 9:22
  a
• 9:22
  lot
• 9:22
  of
• 9:22
  those
• 9:22
  balance
• 9:23
  flies
• 9:23
  with
• 9:23
  the
• 9:23
  kids
• 9:24
  when
• 9:24
  they
• 9:24
  were
• 9:24
  small,
• 9:25
  and
• 9:26
  there
• 9:26
  was
• 9:26
  times
• 9:26
  where
• 9:26
  those
• 9:27
  would
• 9:27
  outproduce,
• 9:28
  you
• 9:29
  know
• 9:29
  what
• 9:29
  I
• 9:29
  mean?
• 9:29
  Like
• 9:29
  on
• 9:29
  a
• 9:29
  jig,
• 9:30
  like
• 9:30
  number
• 9:30
  10
• 9:30
  jig
• 9:31
  hook
• 9:31
  or
• 9:31
  number
• 9:31
  eight,
• 9:33
  just
• 9:33
  because
• 9:33
  it.
• 9:33
  The
• 9:34
  fish
• 9:34
  got
• 9:34
  used
• 9:34
  to
• 9:34
  it,
• 9:35
  you
• 9:35
  know,
• 9:35
  and
• 9:35
  they'd
• 9:35
  see
• 9:35
  something
• 9:36
  go
• 9:36
  up,
• 9:36
  down,
• 9:36
  too
• 9:36
  dramatic.
• 9:37
  Then
• 9:38
  it
• 9:38
  was
• 9:38
  better
• 9:38
  to
• 9:38
  see
• 9:39
  it,
• 9:39
  just
• 9:39
  the
• 9:39
  whole.
• 9:39
  The
• 9:39
  whole
• 9:40
  silhouette,
• 9:40
  sink
• 9:41
  level
• 9:42
  instead
• 9:42
  of
• 9:42
  like,
• 9:42
  diving
• 9:43
  nose
• 9:43
  first
• 9:43
  every
• 9:44
  time.
• 9:45
  And
• 9:45
  then
• 9:45
  you
• 9:45
  go
• 9:45
  to
• 9:45
  lake
• 9:45
  fishing,
• 9:46
  right?
• 9:46
  You
• 9:46
  put
• 9:46
  that
• 9:46
  under
• 9:47
  an
• 9:47
  indicator,
• 9:47
  and
• 9:47
  those
• 9:47
  things
• 9:48
  are
• 9:48
  just
• 9:48
  moving
• 9:48
  up
• 9:48
  and
• 9:48
  down
• 9:49
  really
• 9:49
  gently,
• 9:49
  just
• 9:49
  with
• 9:50
  a
• 9:50
  little
• 9:50
  bit
• 9:50
  of
• 9:50
  the
• 9:50
  wave
• 9:51
  on
• 9:51
  the
• 9:51
  surface
• 9:51
  of
• 9:51
  the
• 9:51
  water,
• 9:52
  right?
• 9:54
  Yeah,
• 9:54
  that
• 9:54
  works
• 9:55
  really
• 9:55
  good.
• 9:55
  Like,
• 9:55
  if
• 9:55
  there's
• 9:56
  a
• 9:56
  little
• 9:56
  bit
• 9:56
  of
• 9:56
  chop,
• 9:57
  a
• 9:58
  little
• 9:58
  bit
• 9:58
  of
• 9:58
  chop
• 9:58
  up
• 9:59
  top,
• 9:59
  and
• 9:59
  it
• 9:59
  gives
• 9:59
  it
• 9:59
  a,
• 9:59
  you
• 10:00
  know,
• 10:00
  really
• 10:00
  nice
• 10:00
  action
• 10:01
  underneath.
• 10:02
  So,
• 10:02
  yeah,
• 10:02
  but
• 10:03
  it
• 10:03
  really
• 10:03
  is
• 10:03
  a
• 10:04
  good
• 10:04
  gateway.
• 10:04
  One
• 10:04
  of
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  guys
• 10:05
  that
• 10:05
  was
• 10:05
  in
• 10:05
  the
• 10:05
  streamer
• 10:05
  talk
• 10:06
  there
• 10:06
  in
• 10:06
  Atlanta
• 10:06
  when
• 10:07
  we
• 10:07
  finished,
• 10:07
  you
• 10:07
  know,
• 10:07
  he
• 10:07
  was
• 10:08
  asking,
• 10:08
  he's
• 10:08
  like,
• 10:08
  I'm
• 10:08
  brand
• 10:08
  new.
• 10:09
  I
• 10:09
  hadn't
• 10:09
  even.
• 10:10
  I
• 10:10
  haven't
• 10:10
  even
• 10:10
  gone
• 10:11
  yet.
• 10:11
  And
• 10:12
  I
• 10:12
  said,
• 10:12
  well,
• 10:12
  this
• 10:12
  is
• 10:12
  actually
• 10:13
  a
• 10:13
  good
• 10:13
  way
• 10:13
  for
• 10:13
  you
• 10:13
  to
• 10:14
  get
• 10:14
  into
• 10:14
  it.
• 10:14
  Like,
• 10:15
  just
• 10:15
  keep
• 10:15
  your
• 10:15
  eyes,
• 10:16
  you
• 10:16
  know,
• 10:16
  open.
• 10:17
  This
• 10:17
  time
• 10:17
  of
• 10:17
  year
• 10:17
  and
• 10:17
  into
• 10:18
  springtime
• 10:19
  is
• 10:20
  a
• 10:20
  great
• 10:20
  way
• 10:20
  for
• 10:20
  somebody
• 10:21
  new
• 10:21
  to
• 10:21
  get
• 10:21
  some.
• 10:22
  Get
• 10:22
  some
• 10:22
  results.
• 10:23
  You
• 10:23
  know,
• 10:23
  just
• 10:23
  sit
• 10:23
  there
• 10:23
  and
• 10:24
  tell
• 10:24
  somebody
• 10:24
  brand
• 10:24
  new
• 10:25
  to
• 10:26
  dry
• 10:26
  fly
• 10:27
  is
• 10:27
  a
• 10:27
  whole
• 10:27
  lot
• 10:27
  different.
• 10:27
  I
• 10:28
  mean,
• 10:28
  it's
• 10:28
  like
• 10:28
  to
• 10:29
  get
• 10:29
  somebody
• 10:30
  where
• 10:30
  they're
• 10:30
  really
• 10:30
  going
• 10:31
  to
• 10:31
  dry
• 10:31
  fly.
• 10:31
  Well,
• 10:31
  I
• 10:32
  think
• 10:32
  Takes
• 10:32
  a
• 10:32
  whole
• 10:32
  lot
• 10:32
  more
• 10:33
  years
• 10:33
  of
• 10:33
  experience.
• 10:33
  So,
• 10:34
  I
• 10:34
  mean,
• 10:34
  I
• 10:34
  wouldn't
• 10:34
  recommend
• 10:35
  that
• 10:35
  for
• 10:35
  anybody
• 10:36
  starting
• 10:36
  out.
• 10:37
  Even
• 10:37
  though
• 10:37
  we
• 10:38
  started
• 10:38
  out
• 10:38
  that
• 10:38
  way,
• 10:39
  I
• 10:39
  think
• 10:39
  that
• 10:39
  that's
• 10:40
  the
• 10:40
  best
• 10:40
  way.
• 10:40
  After
• 10:40
  all
• 10:41
  these
• 10:41
  years
• 10:41
  gotten
• 10:42
  and
• 10:42
  being
• 10:42
  involved
• 10:43
  with
• 10:43
  schools
• 10:43
  and
• 10:44
  education,
• 10:45
  I
• 10:45
  think
• 10:45
  streamers
• 10:46
  really
• 10:46
  the
• 10:46
  best
• 10:46
  gateways
• 10:47
  to
• 10:47
  get
• 10:47
  them
• 10:47
  into
• 10:47
  it.
• 10:48
  Yeah.
• 10:49
  And
• 10:49
  the
• 10:49
  great
• 10:49
  thing
• 10:49
  is,
• 10:50
  you
• 10:50
  know,
• 10:50
  I
• 10:51
  don't
• 10:51
  know.
• 10:51
  Gosh,
• 10:51
  probably
• 10:52
  the
• 10:52
  last
• 10:53
  10
• 10:53
  to
• 10:53
  15
• 10:53
  years
• 10:54
  in
• 10:54
  fly
• 10:54
  fishing,
• 10:55
  you
• 10:55
  know,
• 10:55
  we've
• 10:55
  had
• 10:56
  such
• 10:56
  phenomenal
• 10:57
  improvements
• 10:58
  in
• 10:58
  terms
• 10:58
  of,
• 10:59
  you
• 10:59
  know,
• 10:59
  lines.
• 11:00
  So,
• 11:00
  like,
• 11:00
  I
• 11:00
  mean,
• 11:01
  I
• 11:01
  just
• 11:01
  think
• 11:01
  about,
• 11:01
  you
• 11:02
  know,
• 11:02
  when
• 11:02
  I
• 11:02
  first
• 11:02
  started
• 11:03
  fly
• 11:03
  fishing
• 11:03
  versus
• 11:04
  today,
• 11:04
  like,
• 11:05
  how
• 11:05
  many
• 11:05
  lines
• 11:05
  sa
• 11:06
  makes
• 11:06
  right
• 11:07
  then
• 11:08
  also
• 11:08
  how
• 11:08
  much
• 11:09
  better
• 11:10
  the
• 11:10
  rods,
• 11:11
  particularly
• 11:11
  the
• 11:11
  bigger
• 11:11
  rods
• 11:12
  have
• 11:12
  gotten.
• 11:13
  You
• 11:13
  know,
• 11:13
  it's
• 11:13
  not
• 11:13
  just
• 11:14
  trout.
• 11:14
  I
• 11:14
  mean,
• 11:14
  you
• 11:14
  can
• 11:14
  pretty
• 11:15
  much,
• 11:15
  if
• 11:15
  it
• 11:15
  swims,
• 11:16
  you
• 11:17
  can
• 11:17
  catch
• 11:17
  it
• 11:17
  on
• 11:17
  a
• 11:17
  streamer,
• 11:18
  and
• 11:18
  you
• 11:18
  can
• 11:18
  just
• 11:18
  kind
• 11:18
  of
• 11:18
  work
• 11:18
  on
• 11:19
  that
• 11:19
  thing
• 11:19
  and
• 11:19
  go
• 11:20
  all
• 11:20
  the
• 11:20
  way
• 11:20
  from,
• 11:21
  you
• 11:21
  know,
• 11:21
  trout
• 11:21
  on
• 11:21
  the
• 11:21
  tuckaseegee
• 11:22
  to
• 11:22
  catching,
• 11:22
  you
• 11:23
  know,
• 11:23
  marlin
• 11:24
  if
• 11:24
  you
• 11:24
  want
• 11:24
  to.
• 11:25
  That's
• 11:26
  right.
• 11:26
  No,
• 11:27
  that's
• 11:27
  true.
• 11:27
  The
• 11:27
  lines
• 11:28
  have
• 11:28
  really
• 11:28
  come
• 11:28
  a
• 11:28
  long
• 11:29
  ways,
• 11:29
  you
• 11:29
  know,
• 11:29
  with
• 11:30
  throwing
• 11:30
  these
• 11:31
  different
• 11:31
  setups
• 11:32
  as
• 11:32
  well
• 11:32
  for
• 11:32
  streamers
• 11:33
  and.
• 11:34
  Yeah,
• 11:34
  it's
• 11:34
  a.
• 11:35
  It's
• 11:35
  definitely
• 11:35
  a.
• 11:36
  It's
• 11:36
  a
• 11:36
  fun
• 11:37
  way
• 11:37
  to
• 11:37
  fish.
• 11:37
  I
• 11:37
  mean,
• 11:37
  I.
• 11:38
  I
• 11:38
  still
• 11:38
  enjoy
• 11:38
  it
• 11:39
  a
• 11:39
  lot
• 11:40
  still.
• 11:40
  I
• 11:40
  mean,
• 11:40
  if
• 11:41
  it's
• 11:41
  the
• 11:41
  right
• 11:41
  scenario,
• 11:43
  it's
• 11:43
  the
• 11:43
  fastest
• 11:43
  way
• 11:44
  to
• 11:44
  put
• 11:44
  fish
• 11:44
  up.
• 11:44
  I
• 11:45
  mean,
• 11:45
  it
• 11:45
  really
• 11:45
  is.
• 11:45
  I
• 11:46
  mean,
• 11:47
  there's
• 11:47
  times
• 11:48
  where
• 11:48
  it
• 11:48
  is
• 11:48
  the
• 11:48
  fastest
• 11:49
  way.
• 11:49
  I
• 11:49
  remember
• 11:49
  one
• 11:49
  of
• 11:49
  the
• 11:50
  times.
• 11:50
  I
• 11:51
  wasn't
• 11:51
  gonna
• 11:51
  say
• 11:51
  this,
• 11:52
  but
• 11:52
  it
• 11:52
  just
• 11:52
  came
• 11:52
  to
• 11:52
  me.
• 11:53
  But
• 11:53
  one
• 11:53
  of
• 11:53
  the
• 11:53
  times
• 11:53
  in
• 11:53
  the
• 11:54
  rumble
• 11:54
  where
• 11:54
  they
• 11:54
  used
• 11:54
  to
• 11:54
  put
• 11:55
  all
• 11:55
  the
• 11:55
  fish
• 11:55
  in,
• 11:55
  you
• 11:56
  know,
• 11:56
  the
• 11:56
  week
• 11:56
  before
• 11:56
  the
• 11:56
  tournament
• 11:57
  in
• 11:58
  Cherokee,
• 11:59
  and,
• 11:59
  you
• 12:00
  know,
• 12:00
  people
• 12:00
  would
• 12:00
  take
• 12:00
  off
• 12:01
  and
• 12:01
  they'd
• 12:01
  be
• 12:01
  nymphing
• 12:01
  and
• 12:02
  trying
• 12:02
  all
• 12:02
  these
• 12:02
  different
• 12:02
  things.
• 12:03
  But
• 12:04
  if
• 12:04
  you
• 12:04
  had,
• 12:04
  like
• 12:05
  a
• 12:05
  lot
• 12:05
  of
• 12:05
  big
• 12:06
  58
• 12:06
  centimeter
• 12:07
  fish
• 12:08
  in
• 12:08
  Iran,
• 12:09
  you
• 12:09
  could
• 12:09
  hook
• 12:09
  them
• 12:09
  one
• 12:09
  after
• 12:10
  the
• 12:10
  other,
• 12:10
  just
• 12:10
  boom,
• 12:10
  boom,
• 12:10
  boom,
• 12:11
  and
• 12:11
  be
• 12:11
  done
• 12:11
  in
• 12:11
  10
• 12:11
  minutes
• 12:12
  on
• 12:12
  a
• 12:12
  streamer.
• 12:13
  But
• 12:13
  if
• 12:13
  you
• 12:14
  were
• 12:14
  trying
• 12:14
  to
• 12:14
  nymph
• 12:14
  all
• 12:14
  those
• 12:15
  fish
• 12:15
  out,
• 12:15
  it
• 12:15
  wouldn't
• 12:15
  have
• 12:15
  happened
• 12:16
  in
• 12:16
  10
• 12:16
  minutes.
• 12:17
  So
• 12:17
  there's
• 12:17
  a
• 12:17
  time
• 12:18
  where
• 12:18
  it's
• 12:18
  much
• 12:18
  faster
• 12:19
  for
• 12:19
  activity
• 12:20
  to
• 12:20
  be
• 12:20
  done
• 12:21
  quick,
• 12:22
  you
• 12:22
  know
• 12:22
  what
• 12:23
  I
• 12:23
  mean?
• 12:23
  And
• 12:23
  land
• 12:23
  a
• 12:24
  bunch
• 12:24
  of
• 12:24
  nice
• 12:24
  fish
• 12:24
  really
• 12:25
  quick,
• 12:25
  because
• 12:25
  that's
• 12:26
  the
• 12:26
  scenario
• 12:26
  we're
• 12:26
  talking
• 12:27
  about.
• 12:27
  When
• 12:27
  they're
• 12:28
  new
• 12:28
  like
• 12:28
  that,
• 12:28
  it's
• 12:28
  definitely
• 12:29
  the
• 12:30
  best
• 12:30
  time
• 12:30
  to
• 12:30
  put
• 12:30
  somebody
• 12:31
  in
• 12:31
  there
• 12:31
  that
• 12:31
  hasn't
• 12:32
  done
• 12:32
  it
• 12:32
  before.
• 12:33
  Absolutely.
• 12:34
  And
• 12:34
  I
• 12:34
  know,
• 12:34
  too,
• 12:34
  you
• 12:35
  know,
• 12:35
  you've
• 12:35
  got
• 12:35
  a.
• 12:36
  This
• 12:36
  is
• 12:36
  your
• 12:36
  break
• 12:37
  in
• 12:37
  the
• 12:37
  fly
• 12:38
  fishing
• 12:38
  show
• 12:38
  season.
• 12:39
  So
• 12:39
  you're
• 12:39
  not
• 12:39
  on
• 12:39
  the
• 12:39
  road
• 12:40
  this
• 12:40
  week
• 12:41
  to
• 12:41
  get
• 12:41
  on
• 12:41
  the
• 12:41
  road
• 12:42
  next
• 12:42
  week
• 12:42
  to
• 12:42
  go
• 12:42
  to
• 12:42
  Bellevue
• 12:43
  and
• 12:43
  then
• 12:43
  I
• 12:43
  will
• 12:43
  see
• 12:43
  you
• 12:44
  in
• 12:44
  Denver
• 12:44
  the
• 12:44
  following
• 12:45
  week.
• 12:46
  That's
• 12:47
  right.
• 12:47
  We're
• 12:47
  looking
• 12:47
  forward
• 12:48
  to
• 12:48
  Denver
• 12:48
  because
• 12:48
  Christopher's
• 12:49
  coming
• 12:49
  by.
• 12:49
  I'm
• 12:50
  looking
• 12:50
  forward
• 12:50
  to
• 12:50
  all
• 12:50
  of
• 12:50
  them
• 12:50
  but
• 12:51
  Bellevue
• 12:51
  and
• 12:51
  all
• 12:51
  those
• 12:51
  are
• 12:51
  going
• 12:52
  to
• 12:52
  be
• 12:52
  great.
• 12:52
  I'm
• 12:52
  looking
• 12:52
  forward
• 12:52
  to
• 12:53
  Bellevue
• 12:54
  as
• 12:54
  well.
• 12:54
  I
• 12:55
  saw
• 12:55
  Travis
• 12:55
  Johnson's
• 12:56
  going
• 12:56
  to
• 12:56
  be
• 12:56
  there.
• 12:57
  He's
• 12:57
  like
• 12:58
  Mike,
• 12:58
  I
• 12:58
  think,
• 12:59
  national
• 12:59
  record
• 13:00
  holder
• 13:00
  in
• 13:00
  spay
• 13:00
  casting.
• 13:01
  And
• 13:01
  Maxine
• 13:01
  McCormick's
• 13:02
  going
• 13:02
  to
• 13:02
  be
• 13:02
  there.
• 13:02
  She's,
• 13:03
  of
• 13:03
  course,
• 13:03
  I'm
• 13:03
  a
• 13:03
  huge
• 13:04
  fan
• 13:04
  of
• 13:04
  Maxine
• 13:05
  and
• 13:05
  she's
• 13:06
  one
• 13:06
  of
• 13:06
  my
• 13:06
  heroes.
• 13:06
  And
• 13:07
  she's
• 13:07
  going
• 13:07
  to
• 13:07
  be
• 13:07
  doing
• 13:08
  a
• 13:08
  demo.
• 13:08
  So
• 13:08
  we'll
• 13:08
  get
• 13:09
  to
• 13:09
  talk
• 13:09
  with
• 13:09
  her
• 13:09
  and
• 13:10
  hopefully
• 13:10
  get
• 13:11
  to
• 13:11
  spend
• 13:12
  some
• 13:12
  time
• 13:12
  with
• 13:12
  both
• 13:13
  of
• 13:13
  those
• 13:13
  folks.
• 13:13
  And
• 13:14
  there's
• 13:14
  still
• 13:14
  a
• 13:15
  lot
• 13:15
  of
• 13:15
  good
• 13:15
  shows
• 13:15
  to
• 13:15
  come
• 13:15
  and
• 13:16
  Denver's
• 13:16
  going
• 13:16
  to
• 13:16
  have
• 13:16
  a
• 13:17
  lot
• 13:17
  of
• 13:17
  good,
• 13:18
  good
• 13:18
  folks.
• 13:19
  Be
• 13:19
  fun
• 13:19
  to
• 13:19
  catch
• 13:19
  up
• 13:20
  with.
• 13:20
  And
• 13:20
  then
• 13:21
  San
• 13:22
  Francisco,
• 13:22
  Lancaster
• 13:23
  and
• 13:23
  Great
• 13:23
  Waters.
• 13:24
  And
• 13:24
  that's
• 13:24
  it
• 13:24
  for
• 13:25
  me.
• 13:25
  So
• 13:25
  I'm
• 13:26
  glad
• 13:26
  to
• 13:26
  be
• 13:26
  off
• 13:26
  a
• 13:26
  week,
• 13:27
  Marvin.
• 13:27
  I'm
• 13:27
  really
• 13:27
  tired
• 13:28
  after
• 13:29
  yesterday
• 13:29
  when
• 13:29
  I
• 13:29
  got
• 13:30
  in,
• 13:30
  I
• 13:30
  could
• 13:30
  tell
• 13:31
  I
• 13:31
  was
• 13:31
  fatigued.
• 13:32
  Yeah,
• 13:33
  I
• 13:33
  can
• 13:33
  imagine.
• 13:33
  I
• 13:33
  mean,
• 13:34
  I'm
• 13:34
  tired
• 13:34
  from
• 13:34
  getting
• 13:35
  back
• 13:35
  so
• 13:35
  late
• 13:35
  last
• 13:35
  night
• 13:36
  for
• 13:36
  Michigan
• 13:36
  as
• 13:36
  well.
• 13:36
  And,
• 13:37
  you
• 13:37
  know,
• 13:37
  I'm
• 13:38
  excited
• 13:38
  too,
• 13:38
  for
• 13:38
  Denver.
• 13:39
  I've
• 13:39
  got,
• 13:40
  you
• 13:40
  know,
• 13:40
  two
• 13:40
  talks
• 13:41
  there,
• 13:41
  doing
• 13:42
  one
• 13:42
  talk
• 13:42
  that
• 13:42
  I
• 13:43
  do
• 13:43
  basically
• 13:43
  talk
• 13:44
  taking
• 13:44
  people
• 13:44
  through,
• 13:45
  you
• 13:46
  know,
• 13:46
  trout
• 13:47
  through
• 13:47
  the
• 13:47
  seasons
• 13:48
  and
• 13:48
  basically
• 13:48
  how
• 13:48
  to
• 13:48
  approach,
• 13:49
  you
• 13:49
  know,
• 13:49
  all
• 13:49
  four
• 13:50
  seasons
• 13:50
  on
• 13:50
  the
• 13:50
  water.
• 13:50
  And
• 13:51
  then
• 13:51
  I've
• 13:51
  got
• 13:51
  another
• 13:51
  one.
• 13:52
  You
• 13:52
  know,
• 13:52
  Mac,
• 13:52
  you
• 13:53
  know,
• 13:53
  I'm
• 13:53
  a
• 13:53
  nut
• 13:53
  about
• 13:53
  process.
• 13:55
  So
• 13:55
  I've
• 13:55
  got
• 13:55
  another.
• 13:56
  I've
• 13:56
  got
• 13:56
  another
• 13:56
  talk
• 13:57
  to
• 13:58
  kind
• 13:58
  of
• 13:58
  help
• 13:58
  people
• 14:00
  come
• 14:00
  up
• 14:00
  with
• 14:00
  a
• 14:00
  process
• 14:01
  to
• 14:01
  be
• 14:01
  more
• 14:02
  successful
• 14:02
  in
• 14:02
  the
• 14:02
  water.
• 14:03
  So
• 14:03
  I'm
• 14:03
  excited
• 14:03
  to,
• 14:04
  to
• 14:04
  see,
• 14:04
  you
• 14:04
  know,
• 14:04
  folks
• 14:05
  out
• 14:05
  there
• 14:05
  and
• 14:05
  to
• 14:05
  offer
• 14:06
  those
• 14:06
  presentations.
• 14:08
  Well,
• 14:08
  that'll
• 14:08
  be
• 14:09
  good.
• 14:09
  I
• 14:09
  don't
• 14:09
  even
• 14:10
  know
• 14:10
  what
• 14:10
  the.
• 14:11
  I
• 14:12
  should
• 14:12
  know,
• 14:12
  but
• 14:13
  I
• 14:13
  don't
• 14:13
  know
• 14:14
  what
• 14:14
  they
• 14:14
  are
• 14:14
  yet,
• 14:14
  what
• 14:14
  I'm
• 14:15
  going
• 14:15
  to
• 14:15
  do.
• 14:15
  But.
• 14:15
  But
• 14:15
  I'm
• 14:16
  sure
• 14:16
  there'll
• 14:16
  be
• 14:16
  some
• 14:16
  presentations
• 14:17
  on,
• 14:18
  on
• 14:18
  something
• 14:19
  about
• 14:20
  related
• 14:20
  to
• 14:20
  fishing,
• 14:21
  but
• 14:21
  I'm
• 14:21
  not
• 14:21
  sure
• 14:21
  what
• 14:22
  they
• 14:22
  are
• 14:22
  yet.
• 14:22
  I
• 14:22
  haven't,
• 14:23
  I
• 14:23
  haven't
• 14:24
  looked
• 14:24
  at
• 14:24
  it
• 14:24
  actually
• 14:24
  yet.
• 14:25
  So.
• 14:25
  But
• 14:26
  it
• 14:26
  was
• 14:26
  busy.
• 14:26
  I
• 14:26
  think
• 14:26
  they
• 14:27
  sent
• 14:27
  it
• 14:27
  out
• 14:27
  when
• 14:27
  we
• 14:27
  were
• 14:27
  in
• 14:28
  the
• 14:28
  middle
• 14:28
  of
• 14:28
  Atlanta
• 14:28
  and
• 14:29
  I,
• 14:29
  I'm
• 14:29
  like,
• 14:29
  well,
• 14:30
  I'll
• 14:30
  look
• 14:30
  at
• 14:30
  it
• 14:30
  next
• 14:30
  week
• 14:31
  when
• 14:31
  I
• 14:31
  have
• 14:31
  some
• 14:31
  time
• 14:31
  off.
• 14:32
  So.
• 14:33
  Yeah,
• 14:33
  but
• 14:33
  I'm
• 14:34
  looking
• 14:34
  forward
• 14:34
  to
• 14:34
  it.
• 14:34
  I
• 14:34
  know
• 14:35
  Christopher
• 14:35
  will
• 14:35
  be
• 14:35
  there.
• 14:36
  Again,
• 14:36
  coming
• 14:37
  back
• 14:37
  from
• 14:37
  Switzerland,
• 14:38
  I
• 14:38
  know
• 14:39
  Rick
• 14:40
  Hartman's
• 14:40
  going
• 14:40
  to
• 14:40
  be
• 14:41
  up
• 14:41
  there
• 14:41
  from
• 14:41
  Texas.
• 14:42
  I
• 14:42
  know
• 14:42
  a
• 14:42
  lot
• 14:42
  of
• 14:43
  the,
• 14:43
  a
• 14:43
  lot
• 14:43
  of
• 14:43
  my
• 14:43
  folks
• 14:44
  that
• 14:44
  live
• 14:44
  out
• 14:44
  there
• 14:45
  and
• 14:45
  like
• 14:45
  Utah
• 14:46
  and
• 14:46
  Wyoming
• 14:46
  are
• 14:46
  planning
• 14:47
  on
• 14:47
  coming
• 14:47
  down
• 14:47
  to
• 14:47
  us.
• 14:48
  There's
• 14:48
  going
• 14:48
  to
• 14:48
  be
• 14:48
  a
• 14:48
  lot
• 14:49
  of
• 14:49
  fishy
• 14:49
  people
• 14:49
  in
• 14:49
  Denver.
• 14:50
  I
• 14:51
  really
• 14:51
  think
• 14:51
  that's,
• 14:52
  that's
• 14:52
  my,
• 14:52
  one
• 14:52
  of
• 14:52
  my
• 14:53
  favorite
• 14:53
  ones
• 14:53
  in
• 14:53
  the
• 14:53
  whole,
• 14:54
  whole
• 14:54
  country
• 14:54
  for
• 14:55
  sure.
• 14:55
  Yeah,
• 14:55
  absolutely.
• 14:56
  And
• 14:56
  folks,
• 14:56
  if
• 14:56
  you're
• 14:57
  interested
• 14:57
  in
• 14:57
  predator
• 14:57
  flies,
• 14:58
  you
• 14:59
  know,
• 14:59
  you
• 14:59
  may
• 14:59
  or
• 14:59
  may
• 14:59
  not
• 15:00
  have
• 15:00
  seen
• 15:00
  this,
• 15:00
  but
• 15:01
  one
• 15:01
  of
• 15:01
  my
• 15:02
  new
• 15:02
  projects
• 15:02
  for
• 15:03
  2025
• 15:03
  is
• 15:04
  actually
• 15:04
  a
• 15:04
  new
• 15:04
  podcast
• 15:05
  series
• 15:05
  focusing
• 15:06
  on
• 15:06
  predator
• 15:06
  flies
• 15:07
  called
• 15:07
  the
• 15:07
  Butcher
• 15:07
  Shop.
• 15:08
  And
• 15:09
  you
• 15:09
  can
• 15:09
  find
• 15:09
  that
• 15:10
  wherever
• 15:11
  episodes
• 15:11
  will
• 15:11
  start
• 15:12
  coming
• 15:12
  out
• 15:12
  probably
• 15:12
  in
• 15:12
  about
• 15:13
  a
• 15:13
  month.
• 15:14
  And
• 15:14
  I'm
• 15:15
  super
• 15:15
  excited.
• 15:15
  I
• 15:15
  think
• 15:16
  the
• 15:16
  first
• 15:16
  three
• 15:16
  guests
• 15:17
  are
• 15:17
  Blaine
• 15:17
  Chocolate,
• 15:18
  Russ
• 15:18
  Madden
• 15:18
  and
• 15:19
  Tommy
• 15:19
  Lynch.
• 15:19
  But
• 15:21
  go
• 15:21
  subscribe
• 15:22
  wherever
• 15:22
  you
• 15:22
  get
• 15:22
  your
• 15:22
  podcast.
• 15:23
  There's
• 15:23
  a
• 15:23
  teaser
• 15:24
  episode
• 15:24
  out
• 15:24
  there
• 15:24
  so
• 15:25
  that
• 15:25
  you're
• 15:25
  ready
• 15:25
  to
• 15:25
  go
• 15:26
  when
• 15:26
  the
• 15:26
  first
• 15:26
  episode
• 15:26
  drops.
• 15:27
  And
• 15:28
  you
• 15:28
  know,
• 15:28
  Mac,
• 15:29
  why
• 15:29
  don't
• 15:29
  you
• 15:29
  let
• 15:29
  folks
• 15:30
  know
• 15:30
  where
• 15:30
  folks
• 15:30
  can
• 15:30
  find
• 15:30
  you
• 15:31
  because
• 15:31
  you
• 15:31
  won't
• 15:31
  be
• 15:31
  teaching
• 15:32
  at
• 15:32
  the
• 15:32
  shows
• 15:34
  forever
• 15:34
  and
• 15:34
  you'll
• 15:34
  be
• 15:35
  back
• 15:35
  home
• 15:35
  and
• 15:35
  you'll
• 15:35
  be
• 15:35
  guiding
• 15:36
  and
• 15:36
  doing
• 15:36
  schools.
• 15:38
  Well,
• 15:38
  the
• 15:38
  best
• 15:39
  one
• 15:39
  like
• 15:39
  you
• 15:39
  can
• 15:39
  email
• 15:40
  us
• 15:40
  at
• 15:40
  either
• 15:40
  fly
• 15:40
  fishing
• 15:41
  school,
• 15:42
  which
• 15:42
  is
• 15:42
  a
• 15:43
  five
• 15:43
  day
• 15:44
  classes
• 15:45
  we
• 15:45
  offer
• 15:45
  and
• 15:45
  it
• 15:46
  talks
• 15:46
  about
• 15:46
  all
• 15:46
  the
• 15:46
  dates
• 15:47
  and
• 15:47
  things
• 15:47
  for
• 15:47
  that
• 15:48
  and
• 15:48
  how
• 15:48
  to
• 15:48
  get
• 15:48
  enrolled.
• 15:49
  I
• 15:49
  just,
• 15:50
  we
• 15:50
  opened
• 15:50
  enrollment
• 15:51
  for
• 15:51
  that
• 15:51
  a
• 15:51
  couple
• 15:51
  weeks
• 15:52
  ago.
• 15:52
  And
• 15:52
  then
• 15:52
  Mac,
• 15:53
  Brown
• 15:53
  Fly
• 15:53
  Fish
• 15:54
  is
• 15:54
  my,
• 15:55
  my
• 15:55
  other
• 15:55
  website.
• 15:56
  So
• 15:56
  that's
• 15:56
  the
• 15:56
  same
• 15:56
  names
• 15:57
  on
• 15:57
  Instagram
• 15:59
  and
• 15:59
  they're
• 16:00
  on
• 16:00
  Facebook
• 16:00
  as
• 16:01
  well.
• 16:01
  So
• 16:01
  they
• 16:01
  can
• 16:01
  reach
• 16:01
  me
• 16:02
  off
• 16:02
  any
• 16:02
  one
• 16:02
  of
• 16:02
  those.
• 16:03
  Well,
• 16:03
  there
• 16:03
  you
• 16:04
  go.
• 16:04
  And
• 16:04
  as
• 16:04
  I
• 16:04
  say,
• 16:04
  folks,
• 16:05
  you
• 16:05
  know,
• 16:05
  if
• 16:05
  it's
• 16:05
  warm
• 16:05
  enough,
• 16:06
  get
• 16:06
  out
• 16:06
  there
• 16:06
  and
• 16:07
  fish.
• 16:07
  If
• 16:07
  you
• 16:07
  can't
• 16:08
  fish,
• 16:08
  tie
• 16:08
  some
• 16:09
  flies
• 16:09
  or
• 16:09
  go
• 16:09
  to
• 16:09
  a
• 16:09
  fly
• 16:09
  fishing
• 16:10
  show.
• 16:10
  Tight
• 16:11
  lines,
• 16:11
  everybody.
• 16:12
  Tight
• 16:12
  lines,
• 16:12
  Mac.
• 16:13
  Tight
• 16:14
  lines.
• 16:14
  Marvin.