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- 0:00Reckitt
- 0:01has
- 0:01increased
- 0:02its
- 0:02product
- 0:02development
- 0:03output,
- 0:03allegedly
- 0:04via
- 0:05AI.
- 0:06According
- 0:06to
- 0:06ConsumerGoodTechnology.com
- 0:09early
- 0:10findings
- 0:10of
- 0:10gen
- 0:10AI
- 0:11applications
- 0:11in
- 0:11product
- 0:12innovation
- 0:12have
- 0:12reduced
- 0:13development
- 0:13time
- 0:13for
- 0:14REKT
- 0:14by
- 0:14up
- 0:14to
- 0:1560%
- 0:16while
- 0:16also
- 0:16improving
- 0:17quality.
- 0:18The
- 0:18company
- 0:18has
- 0:18been
- 0:18piloting
- 0:19the
- 0:19technology
- 0:19with
- 0:20its
- 0:20finish
- 0:21brands
- 0:22to
- 0:22analyze
- 0:22years
- 0:22of
- 0:23past
- 0:23research
- 0:23and
- 0:24test
- 0:24data
- 0:24to
- 0:25develop
- 0:25new
- 0:25product
- 0:26concepts,
- 0:26quote,
- 0:26grounded
- 0:27in
- 0:27science
- 0:27and
- 0:28consumer
- 0:28insights.
- 0:29End
- 0:29quote
- 0:29and
- 0:30shout
- 0:30out
- 0:30to
- 0:30all
- 0:30our
- 0:30Finnish
- 0:31listeners.
- 0:32And
- 0:32Shannon
- 0:33Eisenhart,
- 0:33Reckitt's
- 0:34cfo,
- 0:34said
- 0:35during
- 0:35the
- 0:35company's
- 0:35recent
- 0:36earnings
- 0:36call
- 0:37that
- 0:37new
- 0:37generative
- 0:38AI
- 0:38tools
- 0:38would
- 0:38be
- 0:38rolled
- 0:39out
- 0:39across
- 0:39its
- 0:39R
- 0:40and
- 0:40D
- 0:40function
- 0:40in
- 0:402025
- 0:42to
- 0:42drive
- 0:42productivity
- 0:43and
- 0:43product
- 0:44superiority.
- 0:45Before
- 0:45adding
- 0:46you
- 0:46had
- 0:46better
- 0:47check
- 0:47yourself
- 0:47before
- 0:48you
- 0:48wreck
- 0:48it
- 0:49yourself.
- 0:49David,
- 0:50are
- 0:50you
- 0:50buying
- 0:50or
- 0:51selling?
- 0:51Records
- 0:52claim
- 0:52the
- 0:52generative
- 0:52AI
- 0:53has
- 0:53reduced
- 0:53its
- 0:54product
- 0:54development
- 0:54lead
- 0:55times
- 0:55by
- 0:5560%.
- 0:57So
- 0:57so
- 0:57that
- 0:58disclaimer
- 0:58that
- 0:59Chris
- 0:59was
- 0:59talking
- 0:59about
- 1:00is
- 1:00yes,
- 1:00I
- 1:01did
- 1:01work
- 1:01at
- 1:01Reckitt
- 1:02for
- 1:02a
- 1:02few
- 1:03a
- 1:04decade
- 1:04ago
- 1:04now.
- 1:06One
- 1:06of
- 1:06the
- 1:06things
- 1:06that
- 1:07really
- 1:07resonated
- 1:07with
- 1:08me
- 1:08during
- 1:08my
- 1:08time
- 1:09was
- 1:09that
- 1:09there
- 1:09was
- 1:09this
- 1:10concept
- 1:10of
- 1:10speed
- 1:11over
- 1:11perfection
- 1:12and
- 1:13that
- 1:13really
- 1:13has
- 1:14resonated
- 1:14with
- 1:14me.
- 1:15Not
- 1:16sure
- 1:16if
- 1:16it's
- 1:16still
- 1:17embedded
- 1:17in
- 1:17their
- 1:17core
- 1:18culture,
- 1:18but
- 1:18what
- 1:19I
- 1:19liked
- 1:19about
- 1:19that
- 1:20is
- 1:20when
- 1:20it
- 1:21comes
- 1:21to
- 1:21consumer
- 1:21goods
- 1:22companies,
- 1:22the
- 1:22way
- 1:23to
- 1:23drive
- 1:24significant
- 1:24growth
- 1:25outside
- 1:25of
- 1:26geographic
- 1:27scale
- 1:28is
- 1:29incremental
- 1:30new
- 1:30product
- 1:30launches.
- 1:32And
- 1:32so
- 1:32you
- 1:33really
- 1:33have
- 1:33to
- 1:33nail
- 1:34that.
- 1:34Your
- 1:34entire
- 1:35year
- 1:35is
- 1:36based
- 1:36on
- 1:36how
- 1:37do
- 1:37you
- 1:37launch,
- 1:38drive,
- 1:39grow
- 1:39scale
- 1:40new
- 1:41product.
- 1:41And
- 1:41so
- 1:42the
- 1:42two
- 1:43big
- 1:43things
- 1:43around
- 1:43there
- 1:44is
- 1:44speed
- 1:44to
- 1:45market
- 1:45and
- 1:45then
- 1:45quality
- 1:46which
- 1:46drives
- 1:47incrementality.
- 1:48And
- 1:48so
- 1:49if
- 1:49they're
- 1:49actually
- 1:50hitting
- 1:50both,
- 1:51that
- 1:51could
- 1:51be
- 1:52huge.
- 1:52So
- 1:52conceptually
- 1:54I'm
- 1:54buying
- 1:55from
- 1:55an
- 1:56execution
- 1:56standpoint
- 1:57I
- 1:57don't
- 1:57think
- 1:57it's
- 1:58as
- 1:58simple
- 1:58as
- 1:58that.
- 1:59Leveraging
- 2:00that
- 2:00real
- 2:01time
- 2:01data
- 2:02to
- 2:02have
- 2:03understanding
- 2:04from
- 2:04consumers
- 2:05where
- 2:05you
- 2:05can
- 2:05then
- 2:05make
- 2:06those
- 2:06changes.
- 2:07I
- 2:07mean
- 2:07right
- 2:07now
- 2:08most
- 2:08consumer
- 2:09goods
- 2:09companies
- 2:10it's
- 2:10anywhere
- 2:11from
- 2:1112
- 2:11to
- 2:1124
- 2:12months
- 2:13to
- 2:13actually
- 2:14launch
- 2:14a
- 2:15product
- 2:15from
- 2:16concept
- 2:16to
- 2:16in
- 2:17market.
- 2:17And
- 2:18oftentimes
- 2:19by
- 2:19the
- 2:19time
- 2:19you
- 2:19launch
- 2:20that
- 2:21trend
- 2:21or
- 2:21fad
- 2:22is
- 2:22already
- 2:22late,
- 2:24it's
- 2:24already
- 2:24passed.
- 2:25And
- 2:26so
- 2:26if,
- 2:26if,
- 2:27if
- 2:27reckon
- 2:27can
- 2:28actually
- 2:28reduce
- 2:29the
- 2:29the
- 2:29time
- 2:30to
- 2:30launch
- 2:31by
- 2:3160%,
- 2:32they
- 2:32can
- 2:33actually
- 2:34be
- 2:34there
- 2:35while
- 2:35the
- 2:35trend
- 2:35is
- 2:36happening,
- 2:36drive
- 2:37those
- 2:37incremental
- 2:38sales
- 2:38earlier
- 2:39and
- 2:40then
- 2:40also
- 2:40optimize
- 2:42a
- 2:42new
- 2:42product
- 2:43launch
- 2:44to
- 2:44actually
- 2:44then
- 2:45be
- 2:45more
- 2:45scaled
- 2:46and
- 2:46more
- 2:46efficient.
- 2:47So
- 2:47if
- 2:47they
- 2:48can
- 2:48can
- 2:48do
- 2:48this,
- 2:49this
- 2:49could
- 2:49be
- 2:49huge.
- 2:50And
- 2:51so
- 2:51I'm
- 2:51really
- 2:51going
- 2:51to
- 2:51be
- 2:52looking
- 2:52forward
- 2:52to
- 2:52seeing
- 2:52what
- 2:53happens
- 2:53with
- 2:53this.
- 2:54So
- 2:55I'm
- 2:55buying
- 2:56this
- 2:56technology
- 2:57if
- 2:57it
- 2:57actually
- 2:57says
- 2:58what
- 2:58it
- 2:58does.
- 2:59So
- 2:59you're
- 2:59buying
- 3:00it.
- 3:00Yeah.
- 3:00It
- 3:00reminds
- 3:01me
- 3:01of
- 3:01one
- 3:01of
- 3:01my
- 3:01favorite
- 3:02quotes
- 3:02too
- 3:02which
- 3:02is
- 3:02I
- 3:03think
- 3:03from
- 3:03ideo,
- 3:03which
- 3:03is
- 3:03enlightened
- 3:04trial
- 3:04and
- 3:04error
- 3:05succeeds
- 3:05over
- 3:05planning
- 3:06every
- 3:06time.
- 3:06And
- 3:06what
- 3:06you're
- 3:07saying
- 3:07is
- 3:07that
- 3:07AI
- 3:08is
- 3:08enlightening
- 3:09the
- 3:09trial
- 3:09and
- 3:09error
- 3:09which
- 3:10enables
- 3:10them
- 3:10to
- 3:10bring
- 3:11products
- 3:11to
- 3:11market
- 3:12faster
- 3:12and
- 3:12to
- 3:12innovate
- 3:13more
- 3:13quickly.
- 3:14Yeah,
- 3:14I
- 3:15mean
- 3:15if
- 3:15you
- 3:15think
- 3:15about
- 3:15it,
- 3:15you
- 3:16don't
- 3:16actually
- 3:16know
- 3:17what's
- 3:17going
- 3:17to
- 3:18happen
- 3:18with
- 3:18the
- 3:18consumer
- 3:19till
- 3:19they
- 3:19try
- 3:19it.
- 3:20So
- 3:20if
- 3:20you're
- 3:20worried
- 3:21about
- 3:21perfection,
- 3:23what
- 3:23you
- 3:23really
- 3:23need
- 3:24to
- 3:24do
- 3:24is
- 3:24get
- 3:24the
- 3:24product
- 3:24in
- 3:25consumers
- 3:25hands,
- 3:26listen,
- 3:27learn,
- 3:28improve
- 3:28it
- 3:28and
- 3:29then
- 3:29continue
- 3:29to
- 3:30grow.
- 3:30And
- 3:30so
- 3:30I
- 3:31think
- 3:31it's
- 3:31a
- 3:31continuous
- 3:32process.
- 3:34So
- 3:34without
- 3:35a
- 3:35doubt,
- 3:36yeah,
- 3:37I'm
- 3:37buying
- 3:37it
- 3:37too,
- 3:38man.
- 3:38I
- 3:38mean
- 3:40particularly
- 3:41the
- 3:41applications
- 3:41of
- 3:42Gen
- 3:42for
- 3:42me,
- 3:42for
- 3:43CPGs
- 3:43relative
- 3:44to
- 3:44retailers
- 3:44I
- 3:45think
- 3:45are
- 3:45much,
- 3:45much
- 3:46stronger
- 3:46and
- 3:46much
- 3:46more
- 3:47readily
- 3:47available
- 3:48too.
- 3:48That's
- 3:48a
- 3:48point
- 3:48that
- 3:48we've
- 3:49made
- 3:49on
- 3:49this
- 3:49show
- 3:49a
- 3:49number
- 3:49of
- 3:49times
- 3:50because
- 3:50and
- 3:50I'll
- 3:51never
- 3:51forget
- 3:52last
- 3:52year
- 3:52I
- 3:52sat
- 3:52in
- 3:53at
- 3:53Shop
- 3:53Talk
- 3:53on
- 3:53a
- 3:54Kellogg
- 3:54professor
- 3:55talking
- 3:55about
- 3:55how
- 3:56to
- 3:56do.
- 3:56Yeah,
- 3:57he
- 3:57had
- 3:57basically
- 3:57built
- 3:57out
- 3:58an
- 3:58entire
- 3:58process
- 3:59for
- 3:59how
- 3:59to
- 3:59do
- 4:00this.
- 4:00And
- 4:00I
- 4:00was
- 4:01sitting
- 4:01in
- 4:01there
- 4:01speechless,
- 4:02like
- 4:02my
- 4:02mouth
- 4:02was
- 4:02just
- 4:02hanging
- 4:03open
- 4:03like
- 4:03oh
- 4:04my
- 4:04God,
- 4:04look
- 4:05what
- 4:05you
- 4:05can
- 4:05do
- 4:05from
- 4:05a
- 4:05product
- 4:06development
- 4:06perspective.
- 4:07And
- 4:07if
- 4:07I
- 4:07was
- 4:07a
- 4:07CPG
- 4:08executive
- 4:08or
- 4:08if
- 4:08I
- 4:09was
- 4:09in
- 4:09charge
- 4:09of
- 4:09private
- 4:09label
- 4:10brand
- 4:10development
- 4:10at
- 4:11a
- 4:11retailer,
- 4:11the
- 4:11first
- 4:12thing
- 4:12I
- 4:12would
- 4:12have
- 4:12done
- 4:12is
- 4:12gone
- 4:13up
- 4:13to
- 4:13that
- 4:13guy
- 4:13and
- 4:13be
- 4:13like
- 4:14I
- 4:14want
- 4:14you
- 4:14to
- 4:14take
- 4:15this
- 4:15to
- 4:15my
- 4:15company
- 4:16right
- 4:16now.
- 4:16And
- 4:16I'm
- 4:17sure
- 4:17if
- 4:17he
- 4:17can
- 4:17do
- 4:17it,
- 4:18other
- 4:18people
- 4:18can
- 4:18do
- 4:18it.
- 4:19And
- 4:19so
- 4:20yeah,
- 4:20I'm
- 4:20with
- 4:20Dave.
- 4:20Like
- 4:21I
- 4:21think,
- 4:21I
- 4:21think
- 4:21this
- 4:22is
- 4:22probably
- 4:22real,
- 4:23the
- 4:23devil
- 4:24be
- 4:24in
- 4:24the
- 4:24details
- 4:24from
- 4:24the
- 4:24operations
- 4:25perspective.
- 4:26But
- 4:26Ann,
- 4:26what
- 4:26do
- 4:26you
- 4:26think?
- 4:27Yeah,
- 4:27no,
- 4:27I
- 4:28completely
- 4:28agree.
- 4:29I,
- 4:29I've
- 4:30actually
- 4:30been
- 4:30talking
- 4:30to
- 4:30quite
- 4:31a
- 4:31few
- 4:31CPG
- 4:32executives
- 4:33in
- 4:33preparation
- 4:33for
- 4:34a
- 4:34session
- 4:34I'm
- 4:34doing
- 4:35at
- 4:35Shop
- 4:35Talk.
- 4:36And
- 4:36what
- 4:36I
- 4:36think
- 4:37is
- 4:37even
- 4:37crazier,
- 4:38Chris,
- 4:38and
- 4:38might
- 4:38blow
- 4:39your
- 4:39mind
- 4:39this
- 4:39year
- 4:39at
- 4:40Shop
- 4:40Talk
- 4:40is
- 4:40how
- 4:40they've
- 4:41take
- 4:41the,
- 4:41the
- 4:42smart
- 4:42early
- 4:43investors
- 4:43in
- 4:45AI
- 4:46for
- 4:46their
- 4:46R
- 4:47and
- 4:47D
- 4:47processes
- 4:48and
- 4:48collection
- 4:49of
- 4:49trend
- 4:49data,
- 4:49purchase
- 4:50data,
- 4:50focus
- 4:50groups,
- 4:51all
- 4:51data
- 4:51that
- 4:51they're
- 4:51collecting
- 4:52to
- 4:52inform
- 4:53where
- 4:53they
- 4:53take
- 4:54their
- 4:54products.
- 4:54Now
- 4:55they're
- 4:55building
- 4:56AI
- 4:56agents
- 4:57to
- 4:58go
- 4:58in
- 4:58and
- 4:59kind
- 4:59of
- 4:59cross
- 5:00check
- 5:00what,
- 5:01what
- 5:01the
- 5:01AI
- 5:02has
- 5:02found,
- 5:02what
- 5:03the
- 5:03people
- 5:03working
- 5:04at
- 5:04the
- 5:04CPG
- 5:05organization
- 5:05have
- 5:05found
- 5:06as
- 5:06like
- 5:06a
- 5:06third
- 5:06party
- 5:07check
- 5:07on
- 5:08what's
- 5:08been
- 5:08happening
- 5:09here.
- 5:09So
- 5:10there's
- 5:10already
- 5:10companies
- 5:11that
- 5:11are
- 5:11like
- 5:11Light
- 5:12years
- 5:12ahead
- 5:12on
- 5:13really
- 5:13trying
- 5:13to
- 5:14maximize
- 5:15how
- 5:15they're
- 5:15applying
- 5:16gen
- 5:16and
- 5:17AI
- 5:17tools
- 5:18to
- 5:18this
- 5:18process.
- 5:19So
- 5:19it's.
- 5:20I'm
- 5:20100%
- 5:21buying
- 5:21it
- 5:21because
- 5:22what
- 5:22a.
- 5:22CPG
- 5:22does
- 5:23is
- 5:23different
- 5:23than
- 5:23what
- 5:23a
- 5:23retailer
- 5:24does
- 5:24fundamentally.
- 5:25End
- 5:25of
- 5:25the
- 5:25day.
- 5:26Correct.
- 5:26And
- 5:26one
- 5:26of
- 5:26the
- 5:27things
- 5:27I
- 5:27would
- 5:27love
- 5:28to
- 5:28understand
- 5:28is
- 5:29how
- 5:30does
- 5:30Genai
- 5:30take
- 5:31into
- 5:31account
- 5:32your
- 5:32actual
- 5:33route
- 5:33to
- 5:33market
- 5:34and
- 5:34production
- 5:34capabilities.
- 5:36So
- 5:36you
- 5:36can,
- 5:36you
- 5:37can
- 5:37fundamentally
- 5:38say
- 5:38this
- 5:38is
- 5:38the
- 5:38next
- 5:39trend,
- 5:39this
- 5:39is
- 5:39the
- 5:39next
- 5:40product
- 5:40you
- 5:40have,
- 5:40but
- 5:40if
- 5:40you
- 5:40don't
- 5:41have
- 5:41the
- 5:41capacity,
- 5:42the
- 5:42capabilities,
- 5:45the
- 5:45actual
- 5:45logistics,
- 5:46that
- 5:46then
- 5:47it's
- 5:48more
- 5:48of
- 5:48a
- 5:48conceptual,
- 5:49theoretical
- 5:50piece.
- 5:51So
- 5:51I
- 5:51think
- 5:51that
- 5:51would
- 5:52be
- 5:52interesting.
- 5:53And
- 5:53as
- 5:53it
- 5:53relates
- 5:54to
- 5:54a
- 5:54lot
- 5:54of
- 5:55cpg,
- 5:56you
- 5:56know,
- 5:56it's
- 5:57not
- 5:57fast
- 5:58fashion
- 5:58as
- 5:58it
- 5:58relates
- 5:59to
- 6:00beauty
- 6:00and
- 6:01retail.
- 6:01So
- 6:02I
- 6:02would
- 6:02love
- 6:02to
- 6:02see
- 6:02how
- 6:03this
- 6:03can
- 6:03actually
- 6:03be
- 6:04democratized
- 6:05to
- 6:05where
- 6:06speed
- 6:06is
- 6:06the
- 6:06most
- 6:07important
- 6:07thing
- 6:08for
- 6:08innovation
- 6:09with
- 6:09certain
- 6:10categories
- 6:10like
- 6:10that.
- 6:11So
- 6:11I
- 6:11think
- 6:11there's
- 6:11a
- 6:11lot
- 6:11of
- 6:12interesting
- 6:12things
- 6:12with
- 6:12Chennai
- 6:13that,
- 6:13that
- 6:13we're
- 6:13going
- 6:13to
- 6:14see
- 6:14in
- 6:14the
- 6:14next,
- 6:15you
- 6:15know,
- 6:153,
- 6:166,
- 6:1612,
- 6:1618
- 6:17months.
- 6:17I'm
- 6:18really
- 6:18excited
- 6:18to
- 6:18see
- 6:18where
- 6:18it
- 6:19goes.
- 6:19It's
- 6:20kind
- 6:20of
- 6:20crazy
- 6:20that
- 6:20we're
- 6:20still
- 6:20in
- 6:21year
- 6:21two
- 6:21of
- 6:21this
- 6:21whole
- 6:22thing.
- 6:22All
- 6:22right,
- 6:23all
- 6:23right,
- 6:24other
- 6:24Chris,
- 6:25what
- 6:25are
- 6:25your
- 6:25final
- 6:26thoughts
- 6:26on
- 6:26this
- 6:26record
- 6:27story?
- 6:27No,
- 6:28I
- 6:28think
- 6:28you
- 6:28guys
- 6:29had
- 6:29some
- 6:29really
- 6:29good
- 6:29points.
- 6:30We
- 6:31talked
- 6:31a
- 6:31lot
- 6:31about
- 6:31like
- 6:32in
- 6:33customer
- 6:33insight
- 6:34and
- 6:34sentiment
- 6:35generation
- 6:35and
- 6:35how
- 6:36that'll
- 6:36help
- 6:36you
- 6:36reframe,
- 6:37you
- 6:38know,
- 6:38possibly
- 6:38failing
- 6:39products
- 6:39or
- 6:39invent
- 6:40new
- 6:40products.
- 6:40I
- 6:40think
- 6:41that's.
- 6:41That's
- 6:41all.
- 6:41It
- 6:42makes
- 6:42a
- 6:42ton
- 6:42of
- 6:42sense.
- 6:43The
- 6:43other
- 6:43thing
- 6:43is,
- 6:44I
- 6:44think,
- 6:44like,
- 6:44when
- 6:45you
- 6:45think
- 6:45about
- 6:45speed
- 6:45to
- 6:46market,
- 6:46there's
- 6:46like
- 6:47product
- 6:47design
- 6:49and
- 6:49like
- 6:49feature
- 6:50innovation
- 6:50and
- 6:51all
- 6:51that.
- 6:51But
- 6:51there's
- 6:52the
- 6:52second
- 6:52half
- 6:52of
- 6:53that.
- 6:53Speed
- 6:53to
- 6:53market
- 6:53is
- 6:54like
- 6:54the
- 6:54marketing
- 6:55campaigns
- 6:56too,
- 6:56which
- 6:56I
- 6:56think
- 6:57this
- 6:57will
- 6:57also
- 6:57help
- 6:58of
- 6:58how
- 6:58do
- 6:58you
- 6:59localize
- 6:59and
- 7:00adapt
- 7:01the
- 7:01main
- 7:01marketing
- 7:02messages
- 7:02from
- 7:03wherever
- 7:03the
- 7:03product
- 7:03originated
- 7:04to,
- 7:04to
- 7:04the,
- 7:05you
- 7:05know,
- 7:05if
- 7:05you're
- 7:05a
- 7:05multinational
- 7:0630,
- 7:0640
- 7:07other
- 7:07countries
- 7:07where
- 7:08you're
- 7:08trying
- 7:08to
- 7:08sell
- 7:08this
- 7:09product,
- 7:09which
- 7:10can
- 7:10actually
- 7:10slow
- 7:10down
- 7:11that
- 7:11speed
- 7:11to
- 7:12speed
- 7:12to
- 7:12market
- 7:12as
- 7:12well,
- 7:12I
- 7:13think
- 7:13is
- 7:13a
- 7:13whole
- 7:13nother
- 7:14interesting
- 7:15kind
- 7:15of
- 7:15lens
- 7:16too.
- 7:16Right.
- 7:16It
- 7:16speeds
- 7:17up
- 7:17the
- 7:17innovation
- 7:18process.
- 7:18It
- 7:18also
- 7:18speeds
- 7:19up
- 7:19the
- 7:19marketing
- 7:20campaigns
- 7:20and
- 7:20launch
- 7:21process
- 7:21to
- 7:21get
- 7:21you
- 7:22that
- 7:22faster
- 7:22go
- 7:22to
- 7:22market
- 7:23time.
- 7:24Yeah.
- 7:24And
- 7:24that
- 7:25was
- 7:25the
- 7:25number
- 7:25one
- 7:25use
- 7:25case
- 7:26that
- 7:26I
- 7:26heard
- 7:26loud
- 7:26and
- 7:26clear
- 7:27throughout
- 7:27most
- 7:28of
- 7:28last
- 7:28year
- 7:28with
- 7:28the
- 7:29CPG
- 7:29brands
- 7:29that
- 7:29Ann
- 7:30and
- 7:30I
- 7:30were
- 7:30talking
- 7:30to.