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Lovullo’s apology to Counsell, Dodgers-Braves tilt, Blue Jays lose Shane Bieber, Mason Miller overuse? · Foul Territory

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Once again, Scott's not here.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: Should we do a poll, Kratz, on where Scott is?
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: It should be like, where in the world is Scooter Brown?
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: Do we know where Scott is? Because Scott was next
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: to me yesterday, and now all of a sudden, bye-bye, Scott.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: A EDM concert in Orlando. Ice cream shop is B. France. France.
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: or d watching intently and yelling at his screen right
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: now both of.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: Us really you think uh i don't know if he's
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: yelling at his uh screen intently but he's definitely doing
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: he's probably sitting at home right now i don't know
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: where his house is because nobody knows where scott lives
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: he moves like once a month from he was in
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: orlando then he was in miami then he was in
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: brooklyn then he was in new york then he was
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: in california i hate to be his accountant but He's
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: probably sitting there going like this in the chat, yelling
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: at us for how we didn't do the show properly.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: And we're only a minute in. So I'm sure, Scott,
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: we love you. But we wish you the best with
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: whatever you're doing in whatever country you're in. I hope
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: the glow sticks are on point for you.
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: Kratz, was there any game you watched last night that
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: you were just locked into? Because for me, It was
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers-Braves. Obviously, I'm calling the Dodgers-Braves on Thursday night.
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: But 4-3, the Dodgers are losing. Shohei Otani hits a
• 1:45
  Speaker 2: leadoff triple in the top of the ninth. And Freddie
• 1:48
  Speaker 2: Freeman punches out. Mookie Betts hits a ground ball. And
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: then Tommy Edmond gets an out. And the Braves escape
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: with a win. That was the game for me and
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: the moment for me. Was there anything you were watching
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: last night that you were like, wow? That's what I'm
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: trying to think. Oh, the San Diego-Pittsburgh game was like that. And,
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: of course, I'm the one that turns it off before
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: Mason Miller gives up the home run. So it was
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: a 0-0 game. I was watching for the pitching matchup. King, King,
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: and Skeens. I'm like, okay, Skeens is kind of back.
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: And then I miss the best part, a go-ahead homer
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: in the ninth. But, oh, well. Well, in all fairness,
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: it was like midnight on the East Coast when all
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: that happened. So it's hard to– you have kids still
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: in school and kids around. So it's hard to stay
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: up past, like, Yes. I don't know. A little bit later.
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: But, yeah, I mean, there were some good games. The
• 2:40
  Speaker 1: Brewers game last night was very good. It was fun
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: to watch. The Dodgers-Braves, obviously. But, you know, let's charge
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: them out and let's talk about some of these things.
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: Charging them out. Ah, the poor Blue Jays.
• 2:54
  Speaker 1: The poor, poor Blue Jays who are still only like
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: a game or two out of the wild card.
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: They lose Shane Bieber. Another pitcher to the I.O. They're three.
• 3:02
  Speaker 2: I mean, are they?
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  Speaker 1: Well, first, before we even get into Shane Bieber going
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: to the I.O.
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: With Wright Terrace major inflammation. Shane Beaver had been pitching
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: really well. Are the Blue Jays really in the wild
• 3:12
  Speaker 2: card race? I just spent 30 minutes on a show
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: in Toronto with my guy, Blake Murphy, and I'm going
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: to say no. No, they're not. But then again, I've
• 3:25
  Speaker 2: said that the whole time. Are any of the five
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: teams that are six, including the Guardians, are any of those– truly,
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: really in this race. I guess three games is enough
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: if you go on a run, but how many times
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: in 120 games so far can we say, oh, if
• 3:42
  Speaker 2: they go on a run? I don't think, especially with
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: a Shane Bieber injury, I just don't see how they
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: get out of it.
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have too many injuries for me. So sorry,
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: North of the Border friends, Canadian friends. I think it's
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: too little too late. And until Vlad Guerrero hits a
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: home run at home, I'm out.
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: I'm out on the Blue Jays.
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: And the other thing is, we kind of talked about
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: it a little bit earlier for me, the Braves and
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers, right? The game last night, Glass now returned,
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: really rough first inning. If you watch this game, rough
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: first inning, wasn't very good. And then he goes out
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  Speaker 1: and gives them five. I think he threw 30 pitches
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: in the first inning and still gave them five. Bullpen
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: was solid. Obviously better for the Braves than the Dodgers.
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: Tanner Scott gives up the run, which is their closer
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: now because Edwin Diaz is on the IL with a, ow,
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: I can't throw a strike and get anyone out, so
• 4:31
  Speaker 1: my neck hurts injury. What did you take out of
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: the Braves beating the Dodgers and Glasnow's return, which obviously
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: is huge for the Dodgers?
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: I think you're playing the silver linings game. For the Dodgers, it's–
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  Speaker 2: Glasnow fought through adversity, gave you five innings, which are
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: they going to even, let's say he came out and dominated.
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  Speaker 2: Are they even going to ask for more than five?
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  Speaker 2: When you're talking about a team that's preparing for the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: are they going to even let him go more than five?
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  Speaker 2: I don't think so. So to me, I think for
• 5:04
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers, hey, you know what? Silver lining. Yes, Glasnow's there.
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  Speaker 2: We have to clean up and figure out our closing situation.
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  Speaker 2: But as you saw the last two postseasons, We don't
• 5:14
  Speaker 2: know what the Dodgers are going to do, except they're
• 5:16
  Speaker 2: going to figure it out come the end of September
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  Speaker 2: and into October. I think for the Braves, I don't
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: think anybody's been like, oh, man, the Braves, they're really
• 5:27
  Speaker 2: struggling here and there. They've gone through some stuff. They
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: have Chris Sale in their starting rotation, and they're still
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: at the spot where they're at. And everyone's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: the Phillies are going to catch them. No way. Too
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  Speaker 2: much of a lead. Too good of a team. To me,
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  Speaker 2: I think the Dodgers, I mean the Braves, that lineup
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  Speaker 2: and that bullpen are incredible. Is that enough? Are they
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  Speaker 2: going to be able to go through the tough National
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  Speaker 2: League with that and without anybody but Sale truly in
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: the rotation as far as a playoff lockdown starter? Elder
• 6:08
  Speaker 2: pitched pretty well last night. Depending on what happens. With Smith-Schwarver,
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: Smith-Scharver tonight. I mean, and they have some options, okay?
• 6:15
  Speaker 1: But their bullpen is so good, especially if they get
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: Robert Suarez back. Also, they're 3-1 against the Dodgers this year,
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: which could mean something because if they play each other
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: in the DS, the Braves have some confidence.
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  Speaker 2: Also, the Dodgers have not scored more than three runs
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  Speaker 2: against the Braves in any game this year. So that
• 6:30
  Speaker 2: says something.
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, is the Braves pitching that bad if they
• 6:33
  Speaker 1: haven't given up more than three runs to this so-called
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: unstoppable Dodger offense? And by the way, I mean, tonight
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: is Suzuki against Smith-Sharver, and then Thursday night is Yamamoto
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: versus Chris Sale. Those are pretty good matchups coming up.
• 6:48
  Speaker 2: That's a good matchup. I mean, that's a great matchup.
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: But again, when you go, I get it. They haven't
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  Speaker 2: given up many runs. I just don't know how Elder–
• 6:59
  Speaker 2: or Smith-Schauber, or whoever. I guess they won't need a
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: fourth guy in the five-game series. But you sit there
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: and you go, sale game one, game five. Now it
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: looks like the Braves aren't going to– they're going to
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: definitely be able to have that first-round buy, which is
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: another reason you need to be able to keep beating
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers this series. You don't want the Dodgers to
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: overtake you and take away your buy because that could the.
• 7:28
  Speaker 1: Dodgers whoa the Dodgers have a better record so the
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: Braves are gonna have to play the first round by
• 7:33
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers right I thought the Braves were still ahead
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: of them no the the Braves are three games behind
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  Speaker 1: the Dodgers so no no right now the Braves are
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  Speaker 1: gonna have to play that first round matchup whoever that
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: third wild card is I mean so right now that
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: would be the Padres so right now they'd have to
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: they'd have to play three games against the Padres. So
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: Sale's not pitching game one. So you're going to have
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  Speaker 1: Sale game two if they get through that game, right?
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  Speaker 1: So no matter what happens, I mean, the Dodgers are
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: more than likely going to have home field. It's going
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: to be the Brewers and the Dodgers with the home field. So,
• 8:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, you lose Sale for game one more than
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: likely unless something crazy happens. So then you're counting on
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  Speaker 1: other people to shut down this Dodgers team where the
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: Dodgers are like, okay, we goofed around. We played the
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: Reds in the first round last year. We're going to
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: mess around and we're going to play You know, we're
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: going to have Snow, Glassnow, Yamamoto ready one, two, three.
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  Speaker 1: And in a five-game series, that's tough to go. And
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: you've got to start in Dodger Stadium. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: Braves are going to have to crisscross the country. That's
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: a tough ask if you get past the Padres.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: If you get past the Padres who have the hottest lineup,
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  Speaker 2: not last night, but the hottest lineup in baseball since
• 8:41
  Speaker 2: the All-Star break. True. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: It's interesting because– Yes, if the Braves win the next two,
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  Speaker 1: they go 5-1 against the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean in the postseason? Nothing. You know why?
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: You know who swept the Dodgers in the regular season
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  Speaker 1: last year? And you know how many games they won
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: against the Dodgers in the postseason?
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  Speaker 2: Zero. Exactly.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: So, listen, the Atlanta schedule gets easier. First the Phillies
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: are trying to chase them, but they have the Dodgers too.
• 9:13
  Speaker 1: Then they play Colorado. Then they play San Francisco for
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: a game. Then they go at Washington. These are all
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: games that the Braves should do well with. And then
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: at Philly, okay, that's probably decided the thing. Tampa, Philly again,
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: at Cubs, and then, you know, at Houston. And then
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  Speaker 1: their last week is Cincinnati and at Miami. So I
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: think the Braves win this. I think the Braves win
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  Speaker 1: the East. I think they're going to be the three
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  Speaker 1: seed more than likely in the NL, but man, it
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: stinks if you got to play that first round and
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: It just puts so much pressure on your team. Three-game series,
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: you've got to win two out of three. You'd like
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: to sweep them to save bullpen arms. You'd like to
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: save them to save your starting pitching. But it's going
• 9:52
  Speaker 1: to be fun. The National League is going to be
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: fun this year. And by the way, just a side note, also, Crotty,
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: Dodgers at Tigers this weekend, and guess who gets to pitch?
• 10:00
  Speaker 2: Back in Detroit? Terrence Google. Will he get a standing
• 10:03
  Speaker 2: ovation like he deserves, or will the Tiger fans who
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: have been attacking me for two weeks now boo him
• 10:09
  Speaker 2: because they're better off without him in case he mines? No,
• 10:13
  Speaker 2: that's never going to happen. They're not going to boo
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: Terrence Gooble. He had nothing to do with them trading him,
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: nothing to do with the team not extending him, none
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: of that. But, hey, it's coming down. What you said
• 10:25
  Speaker 2: about the Braves and not having that– it shows how
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: much I've paid attention recently because the Dodgers went on
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: a six-game winning streak and the Braves lost the lead
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: that I thought they had. I thought they had the
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: lead over the Dodgers. It's huge. But how many times
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: do we hear, you don't want the buy. You definitely
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: want the buy. The Dodgers have had a buy the
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: entire season, sitting glass now, sitting snell. To be able
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: to get these guys healthy and ready to go and
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: be able to set your rotation is huge for the playoffs.
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: And not having to play that three-game series is even bigger.
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: And I think that's where it's will be tough without
• 11:09
  Speaker 2: that rotation depth. It'll be interesting to see how many
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: games or how many innings you can get out of
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: that bullpen, which is the best in the game. Yeah,
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: and by the way, it's Dodgers at Tigers.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I didn't mean, I think I said Tigers versus Tigers,
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: but the Tigers versus the Tigers would be a hell
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: of a matchup because it could be one team with
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: Skubal and one team without Skubal.
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: We'll see which team is better, right? So it's like
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: MLB the show, make your own team. You're playing the
• 11:33
  Speaker 2: Tigers versus the Tigers. Pre-trade deadline, post-trade deadline?
• 11:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: And like I said, they're better. As many people have
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: let me know, the Tigers are better without Scooble, which
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: I still don't see. And they're still not winning the Central.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: And they're still not going to make the postseason. Sorry,
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: Tigers fans.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: I love you. Love Jason Bonetti. Love their whole skit
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: they have going on there. Love A.J. Hinch.
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: Love Scott Harris. But probably not going to be your
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: year to get to the postseason.
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: It happens. Everyone has bad years.
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• 13:02
  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk a little more Braves. Mark Bowman,
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: Hasan Kim, threw first 19 games on Atlanta's roster. Appeared
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: in four games, totaled 11 innings. 0-3 with a run scored.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: Scored as a ghost runner, the Manford man, in 10th
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: inning win over the Yankees. In RBI, 9th inning ground out,
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: 10-2 loss, Diamondbacks on August 15th. Jorge Mateos, final 19
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: games of the Braves, appeared in six and totaled 21 innings,
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: one for five with a double and stolen base and
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: a third of a scoreless inning pitch. Kim has not
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: done that. Mateo was also used sparingly during final weeks
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: of the Braves. Beyond not wanting to dump a $ 20
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: million investment, that's now a sunk cost. Keeping Kim never
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: made sense. So, Hasan Kim, the worst player ever? Cracked
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: in the history of baseball? Because if you look at
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: his numbers, his batting average and his production ranks right
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: up there with the all-time elites.
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm glad I'm on this list. So I
• 13:53
  Speaker 2: had to go back and look at that season and
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: how terrible I was that season. I think it's like,
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: I think he's hitting 066. And I think in my
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: worst season ever, I hit 094. I knew people who
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: made $ 20 million, but I didn't make $ 20 million. Is
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: he the worst ever? I remember that season for myself.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: There I am, number five on that list. If you're listening...
• 14:21
  Speaker 2: I did lead this list of worst players ever in
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: extra base hits. So I feel like I have that
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: going for me, but I remember that season and I
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: remember how awful it was. And to come in as
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: the guy that you were going to supposed to be
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: the starting shortstop and Kim, like, I don't know if
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: I've ever seen a colossal flop like that. I was
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: filling in when I was playing, but just to be
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: that guy, I wonder how much that injury in the
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: offseason when he fell on the ice really affected him.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Austin Hedges is the best hitter in baseball. It's almost September,
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: and Austin Hedges has been an above-average league hitter. It's crazy. 160, 152, 184, 163,
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: 178 the last five years, and then whammy this year, 272, 107,
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: OPS +. The best part of this story, Kratz, is
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: if you talk to Steven Vogt, He will tell you
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: every time Austin Hedges makes an out, he comes in
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: and says, man, I should have crushed that pitch. Man,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: that should have been a home run. And this year,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: the Hedgehog is actually doing it. He has been a
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: below average hitter his entire career and an above average human.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: He has been on this team because of his leadership,
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: because of all that stuff. But you know what? He's
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: getting older. He should be getting better. He's had more
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: at-bats under his belt, and now he's just– He's coming
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: into his stride. So the next 10 years for Hedgie
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: is going to be ridiculous. But good for him. I
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: love it. It's crazy. It's crazy. And they love him.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: They love him.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: And everyone said, oh, they have two below average hitters
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: and catchers once they traded for Patrick Bailey. And two
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: great framers. Now they have one great framer and one
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: great hitter. So you never know when your career can turn.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: It just happens to have to be the right year.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: You have to have the right people talking about you
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: because Hedgie stinks at framing again this year. So his framing,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, his framing went like this. It went down
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: and his hitting went up. Once he gets them together,
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: we're going to see Austin Hedges in the 2027 All-Star Game.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: That's you, Hedgie. That would be amazing. I mean, that
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: would be something. That would be a heck of a
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: story if Hedgie could pull it all. But we know
• 16:36
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  Speaker 2: Craig Salmon on Mason Miller is allowing a ninth inning
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  Speaker 2: home run to O'Neal Cruz. He's human. Miller responded with,
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  Speaker 2: humans can be idiots sometimes. This is one of the
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  Speaker 1: Because he admitted it. This guy has been unhuman the
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  Speaker 1: I'm an idiot.
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  Speaker 2: But here we go. A.J. Cassaville. Pirates won, Padres zero,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Michael King and Paul Skeen's match zeros before Mason Miller
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  Speaker 2: surrendered his first home run of the season. He is human.
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  Speaker 2: It would prove decisive. The Padres squad are in an
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  Speaker 2: excellent start and will now almost certainly be without Miller.
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  Speaker 2: More at home for Wednesday's finale. Is Mason Miller an idiot?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, thinking about pitch calling, how many times did
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  Speaker 2: I go, This is the time. We're going to throw it.
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  Speaker 2: O'Neal Cruz doesn't hit changeups. Whatever it is, the reality
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  Speaker 2: is it was his third best pitch. And catching 101,
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: if you've never called a game before and you're behind
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  Speaker 2: the dish, you are told whatever pitch you call, have
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: a reason for it. Don't get beat. And the second rule,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: don't get beat on your third best pitch. I mean,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: it's one of those things that if he swings and misses,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: we don't even talk about it. It just is another day,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: another dominant performance from Mason Miller. But there's a changeup
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: that hung-ish. It hung, and O'Neal Crews, Can do some things.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I heard people say, you know what, hitters? Hitters drive
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  Speaker 2: Mercedes-Benz too. Or if you're a hitter and a pitcher
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  Speaker 2: gets you out, pitchers drive Mercedes-Benz too. It's a tough game.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: And Mason Miller, kind of like we talked about Paul
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Skeens before, has set such a high bar that when
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: you make a mistake and you do look human, like
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: his manager Craig Stammen said, you know what? It makes
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: me feel better. It's like when I watch the PGA
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  Speaker 2: Tour and I watch a dude duff a shot on
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: the PGA Tour. I'm like, okay, it's okay if I
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: duff a shot. We're all human, and the game is
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: played by imperfect people. Agreed. Mason Miller needed 30 pitches
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: to get through the ninth last night. Again, A.J. Cassaville.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: He's pitching his fourth game in five days and just
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: surrendered his first homer of the season in an O'Neal
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Cruz laser. Give the Pirates a 1-0 lead in the ninth.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Has Mason Miller ever worked? And then the other thing,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: what you said is, yes, never get beat by your
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: third best pitch. Always go with your best two, especially
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: if you're Mason Miller and your two pitches are the
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: best two pitches in probably baseball. I mean, they rank
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: high as can be in baseball. And then finally, you
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: never want to get beat in a situation where you
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: can lose the game like this. And the other thing,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Mason Miller, his changeup is like a below average fastball.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: So if you throw it up, O'Neal Cruz is cheating
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: like hell to the heater. And then all he's got
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: to do is just take his normal swing and he
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: clips it out front because he's a little bit out
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: front and whammy, it's one nothing.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: So tough position for Mason Miller. A lot of pitches
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: for him to throw. I think he'll be okay though.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I think the thing that you said, is he tired?
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Is he overused? We can't answer that. All I can
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: do is I can go to the I can go
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: to the stats. He has finished the most games. Doesn't
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: mean he has the most saves in the league, but
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: he's finished the most games. So as far as compared
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: to closers, he's being used. But you know what? You're
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: on a good team. You're on a team that's in
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: a playoff hunt. That's the reality of it. If he's
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: used as much as he's got 54 games, 56 innings.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: If he's being used and overused... Call Morihone. Call Estrada,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: who I know is on the IL. Call the different
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: guys that they have down in that bullpen because those
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: guys are being overused more than the closer is any
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: team you're ever on. So if there's a fear that
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: the Padres are using Mason Miller too much, then that
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: vaunted bullpen of the Padres, which I think they're the
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: second best bullpen in the game, I think numbers-wise the
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Braves are better, but I think The Padres' bullpen is
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: probably scarier just on paper, but the rest of those
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: dudes are being used. True. Agreed. The Braves have been better,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: especially if they get Robert Suarez back, who used to
• 23:01
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  Speaker 2: We talked about this yesterday, Krauts. We're going to go
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Diamondbacks Cubs. Tori Lavello apologized yesterday to Craig Council. saying
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: that the sign relaying by the Cubs coaches in Monday
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: night's game, this is from Bob Nightingale, was perfectly legal.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Lovello realized the mistake after speaking with MLB Vice President
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: Michael Hill, saying it was legal.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Hmm.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Now, do you think Michael Hill called Torrey Lovello and said,
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: this is a little bit much. You guys are screaming
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: at another team's dugout with cuss words. You're screaming at
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: the third base coach with cursing words. Do you think
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: that they were told you have to apologize? And by
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: the way, nobody said it was illegal what they were doing.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: They were just mad they were doing it.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: They were saying it was Bush League. Bush League is
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: not against the rules. Bush League is the hierarchy of, well,
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: that's just messed up in the game. You're not allowed
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to do that. It's Bush League that you, whatever. There's
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: so many moments like that. And I think the Diamondbacks
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: felt like they were the police in this moment, and
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: they got pissed. I mean, they were clearly pissed. I'm
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: not 100% sure who was next to Jeff Bannister, but
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: both of them were heated. And they– I don't know
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: if Michael Hill– do you think the Diamondbacks called Michael
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Hill or Michael Hill called the Diamondbacks? I don't know.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: That was kind of my question because I think– I
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: don't think that– why would the Diamondbacks call– Major League
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Baseball and say, hey, this guy was in the coaching box.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And whatever you said, he was doing something with his
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: left hand. He would wiggle his left hand on change-ups
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: or whatever it is. That's not illegal. When has that
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: ever been illegal? As long as you're in the coach's box,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: you can do whatever you can do. Jump a jacks
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: in the coach's box. If you think it will help
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: your team win, that's the way I look. They weren't
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: bringing any rules.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, and I've only been involved with a
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: little bit of MLB disciplinary things. But I'm sure they
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: called them. I don't know if he called directly to
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Torre Lovello or how it happened, but called them to
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: make sure there wasn't fisticuffs the next night. Make sure
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: there wasn't retaliation. And the fact that Torre Lovello apologized
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: to Craig Council? I don't know. I mean, I guess
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: all water under the bridge. But there were some heated
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: moments there. Like they were... they were pissed. Somebody was
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: stealing signs that nobody was breaking any rules. Quinton Berry
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: was not breaking any rules. He was within the confines
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: of the coaches box, which this year, Hey, we're, we're
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: making sure that's a rule, even though it's been a
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: rule for decades, probably even longer than that. By the way, um,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: First of all, the Diamondbacks came back and beat the
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Cubs last night 5-4 after being down 4-0. Palencia and
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Webb gave up 5 in the 8th and 9th, so
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: that was a huge win for the Diamondbacks.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: But can you imagine Dusty Baker, Tony La Russa? They
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: used to go back and forth, right? They're just kind
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: of an example, Cubs, Cardinals. Can you imagine Tony La
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Russa or Dusty Baker calling the other one and saying, hey,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I'm really sorry that I yelled at you across dugout
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: to dugout last night?
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine that? I can't see them doing that.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I think there might be some kind of professionalism that
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: they probably would do it. In this exact case, no. No,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: I don't see– I think they both cleared benches the
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: one time and the players got in the way of
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: each other to make sure they weren't. And then they
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: were yelling at each other over like a bunch of
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: old guys sitting on each other, sitting on opposite boards
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: and being like, you come across that road and I'll
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: tell you about my El Camino and you tell me
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: about your old hip. Like, no, I don't see that.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: But it's a different game. It's a different game. And
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I think– Michael Hill maybe even wanted to make sure
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: that Torrey Lovello said something to council so there wasn't
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: any extra curriculars during the game last night. That's fair.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: They're fair. Different game.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: By the way, side note, Corbin Burns was up to 93.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: in his bridge camp game today, which I don't know
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: what that means. I'm assuming that means... I don't know
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: what that is either.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming he's with Cattell Marte in Talking Stick. I
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: don't know what bridge camp means. Maybe he threw to
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Cattell Marte. I don't know. He threw 24 pitches.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So pitching in this weekend, perhaps in Reno, if they
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: don't get fired out because there's bad fires in Reno,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it, then they'll decide if he
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: comes off the aisle and continues his buildup at the
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: major league level.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: In that scenario... he might be capped at three innings pitch.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: So he might be one of their 28. There are
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: two guys they get to call up in September and
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: help them in the stretch run. We'll see.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: But first of all, prayers for Reno because if you
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: haven't seen those fires, they're really bad. And for the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: people of Reno, there's been some evacuations and stuff like that.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: So baseball is secondary to that. But also, you know,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: if he gets to pitch and he comes back, will
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: he help them? I assume they wouldn't bring him back
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: if it wasn't going to help them.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: But is 93– noteworthy like should we be worried about
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: him only touching 93 where is he at in that
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: process and like you said what the heck is a
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: bridge camp game it's a.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: It's a so producer lady came through for once a
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: bridge camp is in professional baseball is a controlled developmental
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: environment or simulated game setting used to keep players active
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: and get live at bats on regular minor league seasons
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and or ship so.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: It's a sim game. It was a sim game. It
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: was a sim game. Can we just say sim game?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Or are they playing against other teams? Then that would
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: be a minor league game. Then that would be a
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: minor league game. But is this the way that Major
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: League Baseball skirts the, oh, well, we can't have any
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: more levels, but we're going to keep people in our
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: spring training complexes, and they're still going to play against
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: each other, and we're going to call them bridge games.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: I've never heard it. How could I have played for
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: 19 years and not ever heard of a bridge game?
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: It must– Never heard of it. It has to be
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: something new.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I've heard of guys going bridge, which means you hit homers,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: but I've never heard of a bridge game. So, anyways– Yeah, you.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Learn something new every day. Thanks, Producer Lady.
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• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Jason Beck says, this wasn't a typo or stat cast quirk.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Jackson Jobe really was throwing his curveballs 85 to 87
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: miles per hour after tinkering with it just yesterday.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Curveball was very big for me. That's something I've been
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: struggling with. Seeing what it did today, it kind of
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: turned into a real weapon. Krauts, wouldn't you just call
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: that a slider? And wouldn't you call that a slider
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: or slurve?
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Not a curveball. Most curveballs aren't that hard. Jackson Jobe
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: had a nice outing, only went four and a third,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: did not get the win, but kept the Tigers in
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: it so they could win the game four to one.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: But wouldn't you call a hard, we used to call
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: like a hard curveball like this, more of a slur
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: than a curve ball, just different terminology maybe? Different terminology.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you get a true curve ball
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: that's going to be spinning in this direction to be
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: thrown at 85 miles an hour, 87 miles an hour. So,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: you know, he threw a slower slider. I don't know,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: but obviously it registers as his curveball, and he called
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: it his curveball. So how many times did you get
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: a guy who's like, yeah, I got a curveball, and
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: you put down two, and you catch the pitch the
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: first time, and you're like, It's probably a slider, but okay,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: you can call it a curveball. That's fine. So I
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: don't know if that's the case, but that's a major jump.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: And I'm fearful of a guy who's missed a lot
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: of time in his career, is young, and now he's
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: throwing just this rip it pitch at such a high velocity.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: What's the longevity for him? Success today doesn't always equal
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: success for 10 years.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: And by the way, I mean, his slider was 90.6 yesterday.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: So it's curveball, 85.1. Fastball, four-seamer, 97.1. So, I mean,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: there's Velo in the tank there for him.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: All right, SeatGeek. SeatGeek, here we are.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Grats, you and I, we're not going to look at
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: today's matchups, okay? Because it's kind of middle of the week.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: We're going to look at tomorrow's matchup, which will be Thursday.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: And some of them you can get to because there's
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: a lot of day games today. But tomorrow you can
• 32:45
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• 32:49
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• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Where's the Astros? We all know the Yankees-Astros matchup. You
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: know that, Kratz.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: You know that.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: You were a part of it when they were cheating, right?
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: And they beat the Yankees. They were kind of their nemesis.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Or you can watch the Miz, who we just talked
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: about with Kurt Hoji, pitching in Queens against the Mets.
• 33:07
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• 33:09
  Speaker 2: You can watch Yamamoto.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Versus Chris Sale as the Dodgers take on the Braves
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta at Truist.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: There's some good matchups. Where are you going? I feel
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: like that's– I mean, I feel like I'm going to
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: see the Miz in Queens. But, I mean, your matchup is–
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: you better check now. But as soon as you're hearing this,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: you need to check SeatGeek right now because I don't
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: know if the Braves, Dodgers, if there's any more tickets left.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: If there is, I would be super surprised because, one,
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: the Braves are playing well. Two, you get two of
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: the best pitchers in the game. And three– Brave fans,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: you've got to come out and make sure your team
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: beats up on the Dodgers here, or else maybe you're
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: just kind of fair-weather playoff fans waiting until they show up.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Or you can wait a day, and you can buy
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: three tickets to the Red Sox-Yankees all this weekend. So
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: look ahead to those, too. True.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: And don't forget, Friday, if you're really feeling frisky, you
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: can go to Detroit and watch Tarek Skubal pitch in
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Detroit for the Dodgers as game– Or you can come
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: to my game Saturday, Red Sox at Yankees, second game
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: of a doubleheader. So you can get two games in
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: one day in New York, in the Bronx. So you
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: get two green dots instead of two red dots, right?
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: So you can make it all happen this weekend. It's
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: some great matchups, and SeatGeek will provide them for you.
• 34:33
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• 34:37
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• 34:55
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: We're back here. Slap hands real quick. Dylan Cease's painting
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: is now on display. If you hadn't seen it, it
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: was pretty cool in the art gallery of Ontario. And
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: instead in the corner of John Schneider's office, it is
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: a wedding crashers meme that now hangs in John Schneider's,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: which is, you know, Todd and Vince Vaughn. And if
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: you haven't seen the movie, it's hilarious, but that was
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: a gift Todd. The painting was a gift. You don't
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: get it back. There's Dylan Cease's painting, which is now
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: in the art gallery, which is kind of cool.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: That's so cool. He's professional in more than one realm
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: of life. And disc golf, too. He's really good at
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: disc golf? Mm-hmm. Loves it. Oh, he loves it or
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: is he good at it? I'm assuming he's both. And
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: he's got a great mustache. He does have a pro mustache, but, man,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: I hope that elbow doesn't hurt when you're really extending out.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: That's why I think he only does it in the offseason.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: By the way, Kratz hats, I know it's a White
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Sox hat.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: You don't have to turn it around. It's awesome. Best
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: hat of the year. We know it is. It's got
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: to be a White Sox. Oh, never mind. Put that
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: thing back on. We don't want to see it. Never mind.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Just kidding. All right, we'll see you tomorrow. Scott, hurry
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: back from wherever you are, and everyone, we'll see you
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: guys tomorrow. Thanks for watching.
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