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The UFOs of Bill and Rose · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, my name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to
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Speaker 1: a new episode of UFOs and the Paranormal. I call
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Speaker 1: this episode, The UFOs of Bill and Rose. And this
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Speaker 1: episode is all about the UFO experiences of a married
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Speaker 1: couple by the name of William and Rose Shellheart. They've
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Speaker 1: had lifelong experiences with ETs, sightings, landings, missing time, and
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Speaker 1: an onboard encounter in which they learned why they had
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Speaker 1: been contacted by ETs. It's a very interesting series of events.
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Speaker 1: Some of these were quite frightening for them, and others
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Speaker 1: were very much benevolent. In fact, Rose believes the ETs
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Speaker 1: saved her life when she was a little girl, and
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Speaker 1: Bill believes the ETs healed him. So it has some
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Speaker 1: very interesting insights into the nature of the UFO phenomenon,
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Speaker 1: And that's why I wanted to do this episode today.
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Speaker 1: And I'm going to play first-hand clips from my interview
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Speaker 1: with Bill and Rose so you can hear them tell
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Speaker 1: their story in their own words. So let's just start
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Speaker 1: with Bill Shellheart. Bill is a retired Navy officer. He
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Speaker 1: also worked for the post office as a letter carrier
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Speaker 1: for many years. And his first major UFO experience occurred
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Speaker 1: on April 22, 1994, while driving from Clovis, New Mexico,
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Speaker 1: towards Albuquerque. This was about 3 a.m., and he's heading
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Speaker 1: west on Highway 60. And he was planning on stopping
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Speaker 1: at Fort Sumner, but that didn't happen. And I think
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Speaker 1: this is significant. As Bill says in his own words,
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Speaker 1: Upon approaching the exit, I slowed down, preparing to turn,
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Speaker 1: and for some reason unknown to me, I overshot the
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Speaker 1: exit and kept going. I was puzzled as to what happened,
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Speaker 1: but decided it was no big deal as I could
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Speaker 1: catch the next exit at Vaughan. I think this is
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Speaker 1: significant because this is something I've heard from many other contactees.
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Speaker 1: Something happens to divert them from their original destinations. So
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Speaker 1: Bill continued driving. He reached Vaughan and turned north onto Interstate,
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Speaker 1: or onto the highway 285. And this is where he
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Speaker 1: had a UFO encounter, which I call missing time on
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Speaker 1: highway 285. Should have taken him about an hour and
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Speaker 1: a half to reach Interstate 40 towards Albuquerque. But of course,
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Speaker 1: that's not what happened. As Bill is traveling up 285,
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Speaker 1: he comes over a hill and sees a very bright
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Speaker 1: white light ahead of him on the highway. And I'll
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Speaker 1: just let Bill describe in his own words what happened next.
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Speaker 2: Well, like I say, it was three-something in the morning.
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Speaker 2: I know that. And like I say, I came up.
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Speaker 2: I had been drinking coffee constantly because I was driving
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Speaker 2: through the night. I hadn't drank anything other than coffee.
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Speaker 2: So when I came up this hill, and just as
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Speaker 2: I was going down, that's when I saw these lights.
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Speaker 2: And my first thought was it had to be a
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Speaker 2: huge truck coming because the lights were so bright. And
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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden they start dancing. They were
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Speaker 2: up and down, back and forth. And I said, my God,
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Speaker 2: what is this? And that's when the closer I got
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Speaker 2: to it, I was leery. I didn't want to. I
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Speaker 2: didn't want to jump out of the car, and that's
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Speaker 2: when it crossed the road, came straight towards me, and
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Speaker 2: just before I got to it, went straight up in
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Speaker 2: the air.
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Speaker 1: So he was amazed. This light approached him, and as
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Speaker 1: he says in a written statement, I was at a
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Speaker 1: loss to what I was seeing. It apparently was trying
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Speaker 1: to get my attention, what it did. I had no
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Speaker 1: idea what I was looking at. My intention was to
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Speaker 1: stop alongside of it and take a quick look and leave.
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Speaker 1: And again, I'll just let Bill describe in his own
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Speaker 1: words what happened next.
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Speaker 2: And that's when I stopped and I looked up to
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Speaker 2: my windshield and that's when I saw it. And before
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Speaker 2: I could leave there, I mean, this all happened within,
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Speaker 2: I mean, we'll say 10 seconds. Before I could sit
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Speaker 2: back down in the seat, that's when that bright light
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Speaker 2: came down into my back window. I mean, it came
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Speaker 2: right on in there. And, of course, I was frightened.
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Speaker 2: I didn't know what was going on. I wasn't looking
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Speaker 2: for UFOs. I mean, I'd never seen one in my life.
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Speaker 2: It just scared the living hell out of me. But
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Speaker 2: that was the experience I had, and it was strange.
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Speaker 1: So Bale did provide not only an audible interview, but
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Speaker 1: a written statement of what he saw, which clarifies a
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Speaker 1: little bit of what happened here. He described this light
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Speaker 1: over his car. Actually, he says it was a saucer-shaped
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Speaker 1: metallic craft. And as he says in his own words,
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Speaker 1: and I quote, it was a saucer-shaped vehicle hovering about
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Speaker 1: 50 to 75 feet in the air and not moving.
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Speaker 1: The only visible light was an orange hue over the dome.
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Speaker 1: The surface was a dark gray color and rough looking.
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Speaker 1: The round saucer under it was easy to see. The
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Speaker 1: craft was not large, maybe six feet in diameter. So
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Speaker 1: at this point, the object is over his car. He's
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Speaker 1: quite alarmed, and he's driving a 1994 Oldsmobile, a very
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Speaker 1: powerful car. So he quickly presses the accelerator down to
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Speaker 1: the floor and tries to outrun this object. And as
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Speaker 1: he says, and again, I quote, At that moment, a
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Speaker 1: huge bright light appeared in the rearview mirror. I went
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Speaker 1: into a total panic. Every muscle in my body froze.
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Speaker 1: I could feel my foot on the accelerator trying to
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Speaker 1: put it through the floorboard, and my hands were glued
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Speaker 1: to the steering wheel. I glanced at the speedometer. It
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Speaker 1: showed over 90 miles per hour. All I wanted to
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Speaker 1: do was get that light off my back. In what
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Speaker 1: seemed like about five seconds, this light quickly changed direction
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Speaker 1: and darted away, moving off and disappearing into the distance.
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Speaker 1: And he thought his encounter was over, but it wasn't.
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Speaker 1: This is when things went from strange to truly bizarre.
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Speaker 1: First thing he noticed was that the landscape seemed to
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Speaker 1: have changed. The road, which had been flat and desert-like,
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Speaker 1: was now hilly, mountainous, with lots of trees. And looking
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Speaker 1: ahead of him on the road, he saw something he
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Speaker 1: could hardly believe or comprehend. It looked like there was
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Speaker 1: a huge, massive landslide heading towards him, covering the entire
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Speaker 1: width of the road and far beyond it. And as
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Speaker 1: he drove closer, he could see this wasn't actually a landslide,
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Speaker 1: but instead it was this weird-looking cloud kind of rolling
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Speaker 1: and roiling and sweeping towards him like this huge tsunami.
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Speaker 1: It looked very strange. And the next thing he knows,
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Speaker 1: he's inside of this cloud, feeling very disoriented and quite frightened.
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Speaker 1: As he says, I've never seen anything like that in
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Speaker 1: my life. It was like a big rolling thing. And
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Speaker 1: even though I felt I was driving on the road,
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Speaker 1: the sensation of being in the clouds overcame me. I
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Speaker 1: could see them rolling at me very fast. It was
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Speaker 1: not fog. The night had been clear. The next thing
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Speaker 1: Bill knew, he was much farther along the road, had
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Speaker 1: reached Highway 40, and was pulling into a rest stop.
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Speaker 1: So this was very confusing to him, and I'll just
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Speaker 1: let him describe this in his own words.
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Speaker 2: Well, see, that's the funny part of it is, I
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Speaker 2: took off, the road that I was traveling was about
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Speaker 2: an hour and a half to get up to I-40,
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Speaker 2: which would take me straight into Albuquerque. And I swear
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Speaker 2: to this God Almighty, I made that in such a
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Speaker 2: short time. It just seemed like, it's true, I was
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Speaker 2: traveling fast, But I wasn't traveling that fast that I
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Speaker 2: could have covered that in, we'll say, within 30 minutes.
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Speaker 2: And I felt I was in the car. I felt
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Speaker 2: I was driving. But when I hit them clouds and
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Speaker 2: they started rolling on me, I mean, it just... I've
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Speaker 2: never seen anything like it in my life where the
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Speaker 2: clouds actually just... It was just like a big rolling thing.
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Speaker 2: And the next thing I know, I was up in Albuquerque.
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Speaker 2: Not in Albuquerque. I was up in I-40 and I
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Speaker 2: was in a rest area. And it all happened so fast.
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Speaker 1: So... Somehow he had traveled an hour and a half
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Speaker 1: and he believes about 30 minutes. So this was very
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Speaker 1: strange and confusing to him. He was still quite frightened.
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Speaker 1: He immediately pulled into this rest stop and parked between
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Speaker 1: two semi trucks. He fell asleep, woke up sometime later
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Speaker 1: to a loud banging noise, turned out the semi truck
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Speaker 1: next to him. Its batteries were both dead, completely dead.
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Speaker 1: And not only that, Bill's car also suffered some apparent
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Speaker 1: electromagnetic effects in that his windshield wipers and washers no
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Speaker 1: longer worked. A fuse had blown. So these are electromagnetic effects,
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Speaker 1: apparently due to this close encounter. So this was quite
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Speaker 1: confusing to Bill and frightening. Two days later, he returned
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Speaker 1: to his home in a and in the Hawaiian Islands
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Speaker 1: and told his wife Rose about what happened and Rose
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Speaker 1: had her own strange incident to report it turned out
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Speaker 1: at the same time that William Bill was having this
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Speaker 1: experience Rose had some strange problems with the television, which
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Speaker 1: started changing channels by itself. She turned the TV off
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Speaker 1: and it came back on and continued to change channels.
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Speaker 1: So she turned it off again. And this occurred at
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Speaker 1: the same time that Bill was having his encounter. Bill
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Speaker 1: also decided to check the two remote controls they had
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Speaker 1: and discovered that the batteries in both remote controls had
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Speaker 1: gone completely dead. Now this could be a complete coincidence.
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. In either case, it's a strange
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Speaker 1: synchronicity that I think probably does have some connection to
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Speaker 1: Bill's encounter. It's very hard to say. But it was
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Speaker 1: one year later or so that Bill was driving along, again,
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Speaker 1: Highway 60 and had another UFO encounter in which a
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Speaker 1: UFO paced his car. And I'll just let him describe
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Speaker 1: this incident again in his own words.
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Speaker 2: And you know the strange part about it is after
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Speaker 2: I had this experience, I went back a year later. Now,
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Speaker 2: this is something I can't even explain. I'm driving down
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Speaker 2: the same road, and all of a sudden I see
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Speaker 2: this red light in front of me. And I thought, well,
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Speaker 2: you know, somebody's doing something. So I speeded up, and
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Speaker 2: this light kept moving as fast as I was moving. Now,
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Speaker 2: this is crazy. I know it sounds crazy. So I
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Speaker 2: speeded up, and I caught up to this light, and
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Speaker 2: it was moving right alongside the car with me. And
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Speaker 2: we were going on this hilly road about 60, 70
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Speaker 2: miles an hour. So all of a sudden, I found
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Speaker 2: myself coming into this little town. I forget the name
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Speaker 2: of this town right now. And there was two lights
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Speaker 2: in front of me. Well, these two lights went straight
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Speaker 2: up in the air and they went over the rooftops.
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Speaker 2: And I thought, oh my God, this is crazy.
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Speaker 1: And two years after his 1994 encounter, Bill had the
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Speaker 1: opportunity to drive along Highway 285. And this is when
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Speaker 1: he got an incredible shock. The landscape that he remembered seeing,
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Speaker 1: that was hilly, mountainous, and full of trees, did not exist.
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Speaker 1: The highway was flat and desert. It did not look
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Speaker 1: at all like what he recalled. And I'll just let
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Speaker 1: Bill describe a little bit of how he discovered this.
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Speaker 2: The next year, this was two years later from my
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Speaker 2: original encounter, and I got there on that road. I
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Speaker 2: got there just as the sun was coming up. And
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Speaker 2: I traveled that road, and what shocked me is there
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Speaker 2: wasn't a tree and there wasn't a hilt. And that
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Speaker 2: first night, all I saw was hills and trees. Now,
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but that blew my mind two years later,
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Speaker 2: and I traveled the same road, and all of a
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Speaker 2: sudden it's flat, straight, no trees. I can't even explain that.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I was totally shook up from that because
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Speaker 2: I know what I saw that first night. I remember
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Speaker 2: going up and down hills. I remember seeing trees. That
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Speaker 2: is strange, isn't it? So help me God, I came
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Speaker 2: out and told my wife that. I said, you know,
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Speaker 2: there was nothing there. But that's the honest to God's truth.
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Speaker 2: I was really shocked at that one.
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Speaker 1: So this does appear to be a screen memory. And
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Speaker 1: judging from all the descriptions Bill has given, this close-up
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Speaker 1: UFO sighting, being struck by a beam of light, the
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Speaker 1: fear he felt, the way this UFO targeted him, the
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Speaker 1: missing time, the screen memory, the electromagnetic effects. These all
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Speaker 1: add up to what I think is probably a missing
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Speaker 1: time encounter where he was taken on board. And in fact,
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Speaker 1: he does have some dream memories of this, but they
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Speaker 1: were quite vague and too confusing, and he's not really
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Speaker 1: sure quite what to make of it. But he definitely
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Speaker 1: had a very obvious missing time encounter. And this was
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Speaker 1: Bill's first real introduction to the UFO phenomenon. And what
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Speaker 1: happened to him may lie with his wife, Rose, who
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Speaker 1: does have a lifelong series of UFO encounters, beginning when
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Speaker 1: she was just a little girl. His wife, Rose, was
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Speaker 1: born in Europe, in Lithuania, and actually spent her childhood
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Speaker 1: in Rothenburg, Germany. And it was there she had an
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Speaker 1: experience where she was saved from drowning, she believes, by ETs.
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Speaker 1: Later in life, she had a hypnotic regression due to
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Speaker 1: a future onboard encounter. And during this hypnotic regression, she
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Speaker 1: recalled being taken to age four when her life was saved.
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Speaker 1: And I'll just let Rose describe this incident in her
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Speaker 1: own words.
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Speaker 3: Okay, my name is Rose Shellheart, and... I'm born in Lithuania,
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Speaker 3: partially raised in Germany and then America. So it dates
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Speaker 3: back actually to back in Germany when I was around
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Speaker 3: four in Rothenburg, Germany. I fall in this fountain of
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Speaker 3: icy water in the middle of winter and playing alone
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Speaker 3: with some children's dishes. And I remember as I'm drowning,
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Speaker 3: I don't know which way is up or down and da-da-da.
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Speaker 3: Somebody pulls me out and It doesn't say a word,
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Speaker 3: and when I look around to see who it was,
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Speaker 3: they're like totally disappeared. But I didn't associate that with
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Speaker 3: one of those encounters until my regression through this Dr.
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Speaker 3: Laszlo Steiner.
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Speaker 1: Rose's second experience occurred many years later. In fact, it
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Speaker 1: was 40 years later. By this time, she had had
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Speaker 1: three children, and she was living in Pasadena, California. This
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Speaker 1: was back in 1977, so it was much less populated
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Speaker 1: back then than it is now. And Rose and her
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Speaker 1: children had just finished dinner, and they heard this very
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Speaker 1: loud whirring noise, and they ran outside to see what
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Speaker 1: it was. Turned out, so did their neighbors, and much
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Speaker 1: of the neighborhood all ran outside And a large crowd
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Speaker 1: of people saw a classic flying saucer. Rose described it
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Speaker 1: as metallic with colored lights, little portholes around it, and
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Speaker 1: it was sending down a beam of light. This thing
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Speaker 1: was at treetop level. And I'll just let Rose describe
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Speaker 1: this encounter in her own words.
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Speaker 3: And then in Pasadena, when I was already a mother
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Speaker 3: of three, our entire family and neighborhood saw one practically
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Speaker 3: ready to land. And of course, when everyone called headquarters,
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Speaker 3: it's an air, you know, one of those air balloons.
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Speaker 3: That's what they always say. But we all saw it. So,
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Speaker 3: and a 14-year-old and a 10-year-old were old enough to
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Speaker 3: remember it as well. Oh, it was round and had
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Speaker 3: all these different lights and windows. We could almost see
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Speaker 3: in them, but then Some helicopters chased that away. It
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Speaker 3: was like no aircraft I had ever seen, and I
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Speaker 3: was raised in the war zone overseas. But it really,
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Speaker 3: really looked enormous, and I don't know if it was
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Speaker 3: just going to hover or try to land. I don't
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Speaker 3: think there was enough room for it to land between
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Speaker 3: the houses there. It was starting to come down until
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Speaker 3: the helicopters came. We all ran outside because it was
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Speaker 3: making a noise. It was in the night. Those whirring sounds, like,
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Speaker 3: but different from what I could relate it to. Some
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Speaker 3: things you can't really explain, like, how do you describe
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Speaker 3: the taste of milk? No, it was not a balloon.
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Speaker 3: It had the light beaming down, too. And then the
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Speaker 3: grass died. That's why we were all impressed. The whole
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Speaker 3: neighborhood was out. It wasn't just us. It was exactly
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Speaker 3: one half block up off Colorado Avenue.
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Speaker 1: So that's quite an amazing sighting. This object was sending
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Speaker 1: down a beam of light, which apparently burned the grass
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Speaker 1: on the ground, and it was chased away by helicopters,
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Speaker 1: and the whole incident was given a debunking explanation of balloons,
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Speaker 1: which Rose is very much certain it was not balloons.
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Speaker 1: But the real encounter occurred... Later, around 1996-97, in or
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Speaker 1: around Sedona, Arizona. At this time, Bill and Rose were
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Speaker 1: on vacation in Sedona. In fact, they had just left Sedona.
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Speaker 1: It was late at night, and they were driving towards Prescott.
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Speaker 1: It was quite late, 11 p.m. around midnight. when this
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Speaker 1: UFO showed up. And it was a star-like object which
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Speaker 1: first started following their car and then appeared ahead of
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Speaker 1: them on the road and seemed to kind of circle
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Speaker 1: around them playing this sort of cat and mouse game.
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Speaker 1: And I'll just let Rose describe this sighting and how
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Speaker 1: it began in her own words.
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Speaker 3: When I was with Bill that trip went Actually, it
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Speaker 3: made us chase it. We had driven two days and
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Speaker 3: two nights without sleep and we were exhausted looking for
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Speaker 3: a motel. But something compelled us to follow that light.
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Speaker 3: It's like we're hypnotized. We have to follow this light.
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Speaker 3: And I remember we almost hit a cow and we
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Speaker 3: ended up in this little town called Jerome, which I
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Speaker 3: didn't even know existed. I said, what are we doing?
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Speaker 3: We must be nuts. And We've got to follow this
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Speaker 3: light and get playing games with us. You know, it
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Speaker 3: was no star. Way too big for a star. And
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Speaker 3: stars twinkle, and this one doesn't, and so forth. And
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Speaker 3: wherever these winding roads went, it was there in front
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Speaker 3: of us. Stars, again, don't do that when you change
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Speaker 3: your direction. And it did come, like, straight down in
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Speaker 3: the middle of a field. And this is where we
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Speaker 3: don't have... conscious recall of anything else except we finally
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Speaker 3: found a place to sleep that night and that was it.
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Speaker 1: So Bill also recalls pretty much exactly what Rose says
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Speaker 1: and as Bill wrote in his written account of this incident,
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Speaker 1: and I quote, that light came out of the sky,
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Speaker 1: straight out of the sky and went into the ground.
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Speaker 1: It just dropped out of sight and that was the
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Speaker 1: last I saw of it. I don't know where it
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Speaker 1: went or what happened, but I saw it come straight down.
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Speaker 1: So here's a short clip in which he describes seeing
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Speaker 1: this light land in the field next to them.
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Speaker 2: My wife and I were up in Sedona. That's a
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Speaker 2: hot spot. And we were coming up. We had to
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Speaker 2: come up the hill getting into Arizona. And it was
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Speaker 2: almost straight up. And we saw this bright light. And
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Speaker 2: we followed that bright light. And as we were coming
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Speaker 2: into Prescott, Arizona, that light came straight out of the
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Speaker 2: sky and went to the ground. It just dropped. Now,
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Speaker 2: from that point on, I don't know. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: don't know where it went or what happened. But I
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Speaker 2: saw it come straight down. It was a big, it
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Speaker 2: was a white light. It was a bright white light.
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Speaker 2: And like I said, there's no way it could have
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Speaker 2: been a star because as we made the curves going
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Speaker 2: up and down that hill, It seemed to follow us.
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Speaker 2: It seemed like every time I turned around, it was
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Speaker 2: there in front of me. And then I followed it
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Speaker 2: into Prescott, and anyways, all of a sudden, boom, it
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Speaker 2: just dropped right out of sight, just straight down.
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Speaker 1: So they arrived at their hotel around 3 a.m., went
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Speaker 1: to bed. They realized later, of course, that they had
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Speaker 1: had missing time, and they decided to go under hypnotic regressions.
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Speaker 1: And this is when Rose learned about her childhood experience
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Speaker 1: of being saved by the ETs, and they learned that
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Speaker 1: they had been taken on board. The hypnotist, a UFO researcher,
23:09
Speaker 1: tried to put Bill under hypnosis, but he could not
23:12
Speaker 1: be placed under a trance. Rose, however, was an excellent
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Speaker 1: hypnotic subject, and she went right into a trance and
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Speaker 1: started to recall not only the childhood incident, but this
23:23
Speaker 1: missing time incident that they had had between Sedona, Arizona,
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Speaker 1: and Prescott. Rose recalled that they were not abducted, but
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Speaker 1: that in fact this craft, this star-like object, had landed
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Speaker 1: in the field next to them, and they were invited
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Speaker 1: on board by human-looking ETs. And I'll just play a
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Speaker 1: clip of the interview in which Rose describes what happened.
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Speaker 3: But during the regression, I was describing things that I
23:56
Speaker 3: had forgotten even. Details of the town and stuff. And
24:01
Speaker 3: it says that we weren't like kidnapped or abducted. We
24:05
Speaker 3: voluntarily boarded and we were welcome. And I was asked,
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Speaker 3: where is Bill? Well, Dr. Laszlo Steiner asked me to
24:13
Speaker 3: ask where is Bill at this time because he's in
24:15
Speaker 3: another room. And they were just saying that we are
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Speaker 3: helping you. They looked A lot more like people than
24:23
Speaker 3: some of these sketches do. A lot more. Their eyes
24:27
Speaker 3: were a little larger than any white person's big eyes
24:32
Speaker 3: would be, but they were just not enormous. Uh-huh. They
24:38
Speaker 3: looked very much like they could pass for us if
24:41
Speaker 3: they wished. And they glowed a blue aura, which kind
24:46
Speaker 3: of made me feel reassured, I don't know, on a
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Speaker 3: mental level, that they're peaceful.
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Speaker 2: How are they dressed?
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Speaker 1: Do you remember that?
24:53
Speaker 3: I said something like would be a military outfit, but
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Speaker 3: not of anything I have seen, and I've been in
25:02
Speaker 3: Europe and here and so forth.
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Speaker 2: Huh.
25:05
Speaker 3: But it would resemble, because they're all alike, but a
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Speaker 3: little more loose-fitting, but with belts.
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Speaker 1: Next, I'd like to play a little clip in which
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Speaker 1: Rose describes the interior of the craft. which surprised her
25:21
Speaker 1: because it was not what she expected. She expected it
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Speaker 1: to be quite different than what she actually saw. So
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Speaker 1: here's Rose describing the interior of the craft.
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Speaker 3: Oh, there was all kinds of lights and very few
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Speaker 3: actual gizmos like we would have on any aircraft here,
25:42
Speaker 3: like they didn't need them. It didn't look like they
25:45
Speaker 3: needed too many lights. things it's like they almost had
25:48
Speaker 3: mind control to get the thing going but there were
25:51
Speaker 3: little lights I guess monitors for.
25:53
Speaker 1: Whatever at one point they asked where these ETs were
25:59
Speaker 1: from and the ETs gave a typically evasive answer as
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Speaker 1: Rose says.
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Speaker 3: They're from a place that you.
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Speaker 1: Don't know about yet and now we get to what
26:11
Speaker 1: I think is the most interesting part of their encounter
26:14
Speaker 1: at which point Rose asked the ETs why they had
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Speaker 1: been contacted. And the ETs told her a very interesting reason.
26:28
Speaker 1: And again, I'll just let Rose describe in her own
26:30
Speaker 1: words what the ETs told her.
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Speaker 3: They said that they are helping certain people here because
26:36
Speaker 3: they will help humanity. And something about like the more
26:41
Speaker 3: we help, the more they help us. but they can't
26:45
Speaker 3: interfere and just take over and fix everything.
26:49
Speaker 1: Back on Oahu, Bill and Rose continued to have many
26:56
Speaker 1: more UFO encounters. They heard about sightings from their neighbors,
27:01
Speaker 1: and they themselves would often see UFOs hovering out over
27:06
Speaker 1: the ocean. And one evening, Bill woke up in his
27:13
Speaker 1: bedroom to find that the whole room had filled with light.
27:18
Speaker 1: This should not be possible because the window in his
27:21
Speaker 1: bedroom does not face the road. It faces the back
27:24
Speaker 1: of the house, which is pure jungle. There are no
27:27
Speaker 1: roads or structures at all back there. So there's really
27:31
Speaker 1: no way for his room to light up. And I'll
27:34
Speaker 1: just let Bill describe this in his own words.
27:37
Speaker 2: I woke up in the morning. Well, the one night that...
27:41
Speaker 2: that light came in the back window. I mean, it
27:43
Speaker 2: came in just as bright as can be. I couldn't
27:45
Speaker 2: believe it. And there's nothing in the back because we
27:50
Speaker 2: have a jungle behind our house, and there's no way
27:52
Speaker 2: a car could have got in there. I mean, that's
27:55
Speaker 2: what it looked like, some of these headlights shining right
27:57
Speaker 2: into the window. And I remember waking up and seeing that.
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Speaker 2: And this all happened within the matter of, I'd say,
28:05
Speaker 2: two to three months. All of this stuff took place.
28:08
Speaker 2: This was just kind of a shocking thing. I just
28:12
Speaker 2: know that I progressed and started to feel better. I
28:16
Speaker 2: do know that, but I don't know what happened.
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Speaker 1: On a few occasions, Bill actually woke up to see
28:21
Speaker 1: strange marks on his body. These were usually in the
28:25
Speaker 1: shape of a triangle, once on his wrist, once on
28:28
Speaker 1: his leg. He believes these are related to the fact
28:33
Speaker 1: that he started to feel much better. He believes the
28:35
Speaker 1: ETs actually healed him. I'll just let him describe that
28:40
Speaker 1: in his own words.
28:43
Speaker 2: One morning, and I found those triangular pinpricks on my
28:48
Speaker 2: right hand. And this was the hand I used when
28:53
Speaker 2: I carried mail. I mean, this was in constant use.
28:57
Speaker 2: And they were very fresh because, you know, you could
29:01
Speaker 2: still see the... They had just about scabbed over. And
29:07
Speaker 2: I showed them to my wife immediately, and I said,
29:09
Speaker 2: my God, look at this thing. It's perfect. It's a
29:11
Speaker 2: perfect triangle. And then it was a matter of a
29:17
Speaker 2: few months later when I found it on my right ankle,
29:21
Speaker 2: the same exact thing, same three exact pinpricks that were
29:27
Speaker 2: evenly spaced in a perfect triangle. I felt something itching
29:32
Speaker 2: on my right ankle, and that's when I looked, and
29:33
Speaker 2: I said, oh, my God. Because there's no way possible
29:36
Speaker 2: in the night I could have done this, and that's
29:38
Speaker 2: when it happens. And like I say, right now I'm
29:41
Speaker 2: very active in what I'm doing. Even though I'm retired,
29:47
Speaker 2: I'm constantly either working for my neighbors or for myself
29:50
Speaker 2: or whatever. But where we live here, it's right on
29:53
Speaker 2: the beach, and it's constant... constant upkeep to keep these
30:01
Speaker 2: houses in great shape. So, fortunately, at my age, I'm
30:05
Speaker 2: able to do this. And like I said, when I
30:07
Speaker 2: was carrying mail, I had went out and got myself
30:10
Speaker 2: a hot tub. I did everything I could to take
30:13
Speaker 2: some of that paint away. And then when I retired,
30:16
Speaker 2: of course, I came straight over here. And it wasn't
30:20
Speaker 2: until after my incident there in 94 that things started
30:26
Speaker 2: to get better.
30:27
Speaker 1: So, Bill... is probably being taken because he says that
30:31
Speaker 1: sometimes he would be dropped from his bed. He has
30:35
Speaker 1: no actual memories of this, but he does confirm that
30:40
Speaker 1: his wife does remember this, and he does say that
30:44
Speaker 1: he did have weird dreams in which the ETs were
30:47
Speaker 1: teaching him stuff. So here's Will describing this.
30:50
Speaker 2: You know, my wife has told me a few times
30:52
Speaker 2: she's thought that they took me someplace because... When they
30:55
Speaker 2: put me back in bed, she said, we have a waterbed.
30:58
Speaker 2: And she said, I came down, I crashed down. That's
31:02
Speaker 2: the way she explained it to me. Now, I didn't know. Yeah,
31:04
Speaker 2: she said that I woke her up because it felt
31:07
Speaker 2: like somebody threw me in bed. That I don't know.
31:11
Speaker 2: I just know what she told me, and I have
31:15
Speaker 2: to believe her. She said she put in a hell
31:17
Speaker 2: of a night with me. I know that. And that's
31:20
Speaker 2: usually when it happens.
31:22
Speaker 1: Now I want to play another clip in which Rose
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Speaker 1: confirms exactly what Bill is saying about he being dropped
31:30
Speaker 1: onto his bed and being taught weird things about how
31:35
Speaker 1: these craft fly and also about healing.
31:38
Speaker 3: That's another thing. They do come to Bill in dream state.
31:41
Speaker 3: I don't care what he thinks. That guy gets flopped
31:44
Speaker 3: back in bed so often and then he always tells
31:47
Speaker 3: me about this dream about aliens teaching him about different
31:50
Speaker 3: travel systems So that must have been something about his message,
31:54
Speaker 3: but I can't prove it. But both of us have
31:58
Speaker 3: become more and more interested in helping people in an
32:03
Speaker 3: alternative healing way. So even Bill, he's got this energy
32:08
Speaker 3: in his hands that he didn't have before. He's just
32:10
Speaker 3: plowing deer back, trying to rub you down and almost
32:14
Speaker 3: hurt you, and now it's like I feel this heat
32:16
Speaker 3: coming out that's really good. And people say they feel
32:19
Speaker 3: it out of me too, and I say, ooh, where
32:21
Speaker 3: did I get this from? I have a lot of
32:23
Speaker 3: good result stories from the neighborhood. I'm grateful because I
32:29
Speaker 3: think that had a lot to do with it.
32:32
Speaker 1: So as you can see, Bill believes he was healed
32:37
Speaker 1: by the ETs. He had been suffering from carpal tunnel
32:40
Speaker 1: syndrome and problems with his knees. But following this 1994
32:46
Speaker 1: encounter and following other encounters, he started to feel much better.
32:53
Speaker 1: And he believes the ETs probably healed him. His sightings continued.
32:59
Speaker 1: They lived in an area of Oahu that's quite isolated.
33:02
Speaker 1: It's called Puna Lu. And they had more UFO sightings.
33:08
Speaker 1: And there is a military base not far from them.
33:11
Speaker 1: And on a few occasions, the military showed up to
33:14
Speaker 1: actually chase these craft.
33:16
Speaker 2: But they are, they have been sighted here. There's an
33:19
Speaker 2: area of about, oh, I'm going to say it's about
33:22
Speaker 2: 8 to 10 miles down the road. I know one
33:25
Speaker 2: night that they were sighted down there. And they broadcast
33:28
Speaker 2: it on television that they'd seen something out there. Now,
33:31
Speaker 2: I've seen them out straight off the ocean. In fact,
33:33
Speaker 2: one night, about midnight, I saw one. And we have
33:37
Speaker 2: a Marine base there. And I could see the Marine
33:39
Speaker 2: base from where we lived. And they set out two helicopters,
33:42
Speaker 2: and they circled this light. They just kept going around it,
33:45
Speaker 2: and then they went back to the base. So I
33:48
Speaker 2: know it was nothing up in the sky. It was
33:50
Speaker 2: something that they were looking at. I saw it myself,
33:52
Speaker 2: because I was working late that time. I got home
33:54
Speaker 2: around midnight, and that's when I saw it. This was
33:58
Speaker 2: probably about two years ago, two years or so ago.
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Speaker 2: My wife has seen them many times. She'd get up
34:04
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night, and she'd go to
34:06
Speaker 2: the front window, and she'd see them. She's seen lights
34:10
Speaker 2: over the ocean, 2, 3 o'clock in the morning. They're
34:14
Speaker 2: in the area, but we don't know what their intentions
34:18
Speaker 2: are right now. They surely haven't heard us, that's for
34:21
Speaker 2: darn sure.
34:23
Speaker 1: So that is the story of Bill and Rose's UFOs.
34:30
Speaker 1: As you can see, it's quite an interesting and complex
34:32
Speaker 1: story that involves not only sightings, but onboard encounters, landings,
34:39
Speaker 1: electromagnetic effects, and physiological effects, and also what I would
34:45
Speaker 1: call spiritual transformation. Bill and Rose have been quite prominent
34:53
Speaker 1: in their community for helping others and healing. Rose is
35:00
Speaker 1: an herbal healer and has done very good work, and
35:05
Speaker 1: as she says, has good testimonials. So I think this, again,
35:09
Speaker 1: confirms why some people are being contacted and others aren't.
35:14
Speaker 1: I told Bill and Rose's case in my book, Extraterrestrial Visitations.
35:20
Speaker 1: It's one of many accounts like this in that book.
35:24
Speaker 1: And I think it shows that ETs, again, are contacting
35:27
Speaker 1: people and healing people who are helping humanity in some capacities.
35:34
Speaker 1: That's certainly true in Bill and Rose's case. They were
35:37
Speaker 1: a delight to interview. But their story, I think, is
35:42
Speaker 1: a very important story and deserves to be told. And
35:45
Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to present it to you today.
35:48
Speaker 1: So I hope you've enjoyed it. I hope you found
35:51
Speaker 1: it as interesting as I do. And I want to
35:54
Speaker 1: thank you very much for watching. I truly appreciate it.
35:59
Speaker 1: And until next time, keep searching for answers. And more importantly,
36:05
Speaker 1: Keep having fun.