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Speaker 1: Gives the good report.
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Speaker 2: Good evening. I'm color Bond. Here's what's coming up tonight.
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Speaker 3: Kids as young as three being referred to gender clinics
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Speaker 3: here in Australia, prompting calls for an urgent inquiry into care.
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Speaker 3: I'll be speaking with the politician spearheading it. Plus Victorian's
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Speaker 3: about to get slugged with another tax hike, this time
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Speaker 3: when you die, and more work propaganda disguised as education
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Speaker 3: as a council smear's historic figures as racist through a
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Speaker 3: QR code on city monuments.
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Speaker 2: That story a little later.
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Speaker 4: Now.
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Speaker 3: I have to say all this back and forth all
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Speaker 3: week about nuclear energy has annoyed me because we're not
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Speaker 3: just talking about some abstract political argument here. We're talking
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Speaker 3: about something that is so important, such a basic right,
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Speaker 3: that it deserves far better than the dross we've been
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Speaker 3: served up. The Albanezi government has, at every opportunity this
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Speaker 3: week laid into the opposition for its nuclear energy proposal,
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Speaker 3: and as we heard from Energy Minister Chris Bowen on Monday,
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Speaker 3: they aren't going to shut up about it.
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Speaker 5: We are happy to debate this every single day between
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Speaker 5: now and the next election, every single day.
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Speaker 3: Now, I don't really get the political strategy here. Poll
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Speaker 3: after poll shows that the majority of Australians support nuclear energy,
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Speaker 3: and particularly young people. It should be noted because they
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Speaker 3: understand that it's emissions free, it's reliable, it doesn't cut
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Speaker 3: out when the moon comes up, and most of our
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Speaker 3: allies use it. As I said earlier in the week,
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Speaker 3: the only basis on which the government can hope to
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Speaker 3: win this argument is cost. But we don't actually have
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Speaker 3: the costings yet, and I suppose that gives the government
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Speaker 3: a bit of a free kick because it means they
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Speaker 3: can go on about how the numbers are being hidden
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Speaker 3: from you blah blah blah. But the fact is that
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Speaker 3: the numbers will be released at some point and then
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Speaker 3: the government is going to, I suppose, have to attack
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Speaker 3: the probity of those numbers if they want to win
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Speaker 3: that argument. But the crux of it all has been
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Speaker 3: oppositions dupid opposition's dupeid nuclear dum renewable good and surely
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Speaker 3: we deserve better than that.
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Speaker 2: I mean.
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Speaker 3: The Australian reported today that a new policy paper from
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Speaker 3: the Victorian Chamber of Commerce and Industry says the Allen
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Speaker 3: government's energy policy is putting not only the prosperity of
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Speaker 3: Victoria at risk, but also the energy security of the
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Speaker 3: rest of the Eastern Seaboard. The report says, quote A
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Speaker 3: lack of back up gas power generation with its firming
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Speaker 3: capacity to support renewable energy production and storage capacity, puts
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Speaker 3: the entire East Coast of Australia's energy at risk. Victoria's
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Speaker 3: energy choices impact the entire nation, and Victoria of course
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Speaker 3: has now banned gas being connected to new homes. So
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Speaker 3: you have a form of energy that is absolutely cleaner
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Speaker 3: and better for the environment than coal, but they then
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Speaker 3: make you have an electric cooktop which is in part
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Speaker 3: powered by coal. It's good going, isn't it. The report
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Speaker 3: went on that Victoria is at risk of power outages,
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Speaker 3: running out of gas, and that it's on the road
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Speaker 3: to energy insecurity and unreliability because we have chosen to
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Speaker 3: focus investment exclusively on wind and solar rather than relying
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Speaker 3: on market mechanisms to drive low cost abatement and innovation,
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Speaker 3: and that rising energy prices that will leave local industry
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Speaker 3: on competitive and limit new investment.
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Speaker 2: Now they might be having fun.
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Speaker 3: With these arguments about nuclear energy in Canberra, but this
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Speaker 3: is seriously pressing stuff. We learned earlier in the week
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Speaker 3: that the Energy Market Operator had sent out a warning
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Speaker 3: that the largest supplier of gas storage on the East Coast,
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Speaker 3: which is Lockhard Energy's Iwona plant in Victoria, could run
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Speaker 3: out of gas by the end of winter, and they've
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Speaker 3: had to harve the amount of energy being taken from
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Speaker 3: it each day to stop that happening. How can a
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Speaker 3: country that is so rich in these resources like gas
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Speaker 3: possibly be facing a gas shortage.
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Speaker 2: It's just absurd. Victoria banned onshore.
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Speaker 3: Gas projects for the better part of a decade, which
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Speaker 3: of course drove any kind of investment interest right out
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Speaker 3: of the state. And finally one new gas project has
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Speaker 3: been approved in Victoria.
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Speaker 2: But we could have.
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Speaker 3: Had plenty more by now if they hadn't been deliberately
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Speaker 3: stifled by you, sorry, if we had not stifled our
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Speaker 3: use of natural resources. And then we come to the
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Speaker 3: Energy Market Operator's Integrated System plan that came out this
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Speaker 3: week and said that they expect the majority of coal
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Speaker 3: fired passtations to be offline by twenty thirty five and
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Speaker 3: the few that are left will be mothballed by twenty
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Speaker 3: thirty eight. And that surprise, surprise means we need to
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Speaker 3: get some other power generation into the system quick smart.
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Speaker 3: Because again, according to this plan, if we're to meet
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Speaker 3: our twenty fifty zero emissions target, we need to add
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Speaker 3: about six gigawatts of new capacity to the grid every year,
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Speaker 3: and that's twice what is currently being built. And you
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Speaker 3: know what happens if we don't get it, blackouts. The
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Speaker 3: Market Operator Boss Daniel Westerman said, quote there is a
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Speaker 3: real risk that replacement generation, storage and transmission may not
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Speaker 3: be available in time when coal plants retire, and this
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Speaker 3: risk must be avoided. This ISP, that's the document he's
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Speaker 3: talking about, is a clear call to investors, industry and
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Speaker 3: governments for the urgent delivery of generation, storage and transmission
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Speaker 3: to ensure Australian consumers continue to have access to reliable
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Speaker 3: electricity at the lowest cost. Now, the Market Operator hasn't
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Speaker 3: taken nuclear into account at all in this report because
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Speaker 3: it is currently banned in this country and fair enough,
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Speaker 3: they can't of have to deal with the rules they
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Speaker 3: have in front of them right now. But let's go
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Speaker 3: back to the report and see what it says about
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Speaker 3: what we need to make sure the lights don't go
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Speaker 3: out quote with coal retiring renewable energy connected with transmission
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Speaker 3: and distribution, firmed with storage and and this is the
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Speaker 3: crucial bit, wait for it.
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Speaker 2: Backed up by gas.
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Speaker 3: Power generation is the lowest cost way to supply electricity
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Speaker 3: to homes and businesses as Australia transitions to a net
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Speaker 3: zero economy.
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Speaker 2: We need gas.
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Speaker 3: We need the gas in the system if this renewable
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Speaker 3: carry on is going to work. But instead we're restricting
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Speaker 3: the use of gas because we.
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Speaker 2: Don't have enough of it. And it's not that we
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Speaker 2: don't have enough of it in the ground. There's plenty
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Speaker 2: of it in the ground.
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Speaker 3: We've just been too stupid to use it ourselves and
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Speaker 3: we're losing gas generation from South Australia as well. Another
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Speaker 3: report from the Energy Market Operator last month, it's teen
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Speaker 3: year outlook update, spelled out how this too could mean
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Speaker 3: black arts. Now. The problem is that AGL has changed
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Speaker 3: its mind and decided not to return a two hundred
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Speaker 3: megawatt gas fired unit at Torrens in Adelaide to power
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Speaker 3: production next summer. ENNG is also mothballing its diesel power
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Speaker 3: generators at Port Lincoln and Millicent next month, which is
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Speaker 3: three and a half years ahead of schedule, and The
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Speaker 3: report said that the withdrawal of South Australian gas generators
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Speaker 3: has increased reliability risks from twenty twenty four to twenty
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Speaker 3: five onwards jointly in South Australia and Victoria. In other words,
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Speaker 3: blackouts are more likely thanks to a lack of, say,
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Speaker 3: gas power. How stupid can we possibly get? As the
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Speaker 3: new South Wales Premier Chris min said last month, I'd
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Speaker 3: just like to make the point that nothing will extinguish
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Speaker 3: community and popular support for this energy transition more than
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Speaker 3: a massive price spike resulting in people not being able
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Speaker 3: to pay their bills. Now, the nuclear move is one
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Speaker 3: that we absolutely should make a need to make.
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Speaker 2: But this isn't just some kind of political football and
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Speaker 2: a bit of points scoring.
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Speaker 3: It's about keeping the lights on in a first world country.
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Speaker 3: It's one of the most basic responsibilities of any government.
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Speaker 2: And report after report after.
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Speaker 3: Report keep saying that we're running out of power, that
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Speaker 3: renewables can't keep up with the coal going offline, that
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Speaker 3: we don't have enough gas, and all of it means
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Speaker 3: we're facing more blackouts. But we get stuff about three
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Speaker 3: eyed koalas and god knows what other nonsense we heard
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Speaker 3: last week. Every day this week there's been another story
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Speaker 3: showing how the Albanezy government or a labor state government
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Speaker 3: is failing to future proof the energy grid. And it's
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Speaker 3: all good and well for them to poo per nuclear
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Speaker 3: and think that it's good politics. And they're spending all
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Speaker 3: their time talking about what energy we shouldn't be producing,
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Speaker 3: and no time talking about the energy we need to
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Speaker 3: be producing, the energy that we're not generating fast enough.
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Speaker 3: And the reason they're going so hard against the opposition's
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Speaker 3: nuclear plan is because they have no plan, or at
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Speaker 3: least not a plan that will actually deliver.
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Speaker 2: The energy we need. They're deflecting, and it is pathetic.
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Speaker 3: Well, inflation was back on the political agenda today and
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Speaker 3: it's a very real possibility that the RBA will deliver
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Speaker 3: another rate rise as soon as August, because, of course,
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Speaker 3: we learned yesterday that inflation sawed to four percent in May,
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Speaker 3: and that was up from three point six percent that
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Speaker 3: we saw in April. Whatever happened to this promise from.
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Speaker 6: Labor responsible relief that eases pressure on people and directly
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Speaker 6: reduces inflation.
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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, it.
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Speaker 3: Is true that inflation has reduced overall since its peak
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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty two. But economists, as we know, have
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Speaker 3: slammed the Albanese government's reckless spending. They've accused them of
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Speaker 3: injecting billions of dollars into the economy disguised as cost
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Speaker 3: of living relief, when in reality all it's actually doing
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Speaker 3: is fueling this increase in inflation.
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Speaker 2: I think the independent economist.
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Speaker 3: Chris Richardson Richardson Sorry put it well when he said
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Speaker 3: that governments are throwing a lot of money at the
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Speaker 3: symptoms of the cost of living crisis, but that worsens
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Speaker 3: the cause of it, and the cause is too many
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Speaker 3: dollars chasing too little stuff. It's just basic economics. Joining
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Speaker 3: me now is National ZMP and former Dipity Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: Barnaby Joyce. Great to see you, Barnaby. The government's in
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Speaker 3: a real pickle here. I was talking about this last night.
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Speaker 3: If there is another interest rate rise, not only does
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Speaker 3: it prove the bad economic management for the government, but
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Speaker 3: it is the worst thing they could possibly come face
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Speaker 3: to face with leading into an election next year.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think some of the tacticians in the Labor
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Speaker 5: Party will say, well, we can go to election now
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Speaker 5: and we might lose, or we can go to an
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Speaker 5: election later next year and definitely lose because this trend
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Speaker 5: is not working for us, my friend. But what they
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Speaker 5: fail to do, it's just like they live in an
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Speaker 5: alternate universe. There's sort of peter pan economics. We have
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Speaker 5: just received inflation figures that point to an increase in
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Speaker 5: interest rates, which will be devastating on so many budgets,
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Speaker 5: on people who are literally living in their car and
11:16
Speaker 5: trying to and have a job, living in their car,
11:18
Speaker 5: but they have a job. People can't afford their power
11:20
Speaker 5: bell when the main drivers of inflation or power prices
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Speaker 5: went up by six point three percent in the examined period. Now,
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Speaker 5: when is someone going to have a reality check and
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Speaker 5: say this fantasy of intermittent power of a nation run
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Speaker 5: by swindle factories and painting the fields black faulta fotaic
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Speaker 5: black with solar panels is doing anything but destroying our
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Speaker 5: economy and making the making and impoverishing the poor.
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Speaker 1: It is.
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Speaker 5: But every time mister Bowheney, he got that smirk on
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Speaker 5: his face and he dances and prans is his way
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Speaker 5: to the dispatch box and tells us, I mean, it's
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Speaker 5: just it's bizarre.
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Speaker 1: He tells us it's.
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Speaker 5: Fixed, everything's fine, it's all sorted out, and then it
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Speaker 5: tell us about this nirvana in the future everything's going to.
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Speaker 1: It's where we're taking you is the sunning up lands
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Speaker 1: of economic prosperity.
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Speaker 5: Not one major manufacturer in the globe is leaving a
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Speaker 5: country that produces nuclear power to move here. But nobody
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Speaker 5: would be that crazy. But you know, it goes Caleb
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Speaker 5: and we just have you know, sooner or later. I
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Speaker 5: think the Labor Party is going to come to their
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Speaker 5: epiphany after the election, but they'll have a lot of
12:30
Speaker 5: time to do it because they'll be seeing on the
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Speaker 5: back bench.
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Speaker 3: Well that's what you'll be hoping anyway. Well, while we're
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Speaker 3: on energy, and we've been talking about the Collide power
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Speaker 3: station in Queensland and of course blew up three years ago.
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Speaker 3: The Queensland Energy Minister, Mick de Brenny, he's briefly returned
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Speaker 3: from his quote unquote planned leave, which is quite convenient,
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Speaker 3: but he did that today. He came out of the
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Speaker 3: woodwork to defend his handling of the Collide power station
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Speaker 3: explosion and of course it left five hundred thousand homes
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Speaker 3: without power. It was the biggest power outage in Queensland
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Speaker 3: in decades. So the minister was asked whether he had
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Speaker 3: read the two maintenance reviews that were conducted in twenty
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Speaker 3: nineteen and again in twenty twenty two. He said he
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Speaker 3: wasn't aware that they even existed until the release of
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Speaker 3: that damning report that came out on Tuesday, which showed
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Speaker 3: the Seaman cover up by the Queensland government and linked
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Speaker 3: the explosion to the fact that there was cost cutting
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Speaker 3: driven by the state government.
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Speaker 2: This is just extraordinary.
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Speaker 1: Well, what we're saying here is just pad management.
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Speaker 5: And look, the Queensland government is doing its very best
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Speaker 5: to get itself removed and I believe, you know, the
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Speaker 5: odds say it's going to get booted, but it's just
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Speaker 5: been a debarcle and you have to ask, you know,
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Speaker 5: this is the government owned asset and the government's oversight
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Speaker 5: over their own asset on behalf of the people of Queensland.
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Speaker 5: It was disastrous and of course where we're seeing now
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Speaker 5: as if they couldn't make it any worse, they too
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Speaker 5: got suffering from chilip Mania. They've been out in the
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Speaker 5: sun too long. And they're also going to go to intermntal.
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Speaker 1: Power and what do you say about a dog returning
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Speaker 1: to its vomit. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, I don't think Stephen Marles is going to
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Speaker 3: have to return to the vomit for too much longer,
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Speaker 3: well at least I hope. So anyway, they're going to
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Speaker 3: get rid of him up there, if they've got any sense.
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Speaker 3: Going back to federal politics, yesterday you had Labour's build
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Speaker 3: to ban live sheep exports by twenty twenty eight past
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Speaker 3: the House of Reps. Now it has to go up
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Speaker 3: to the Senate, of course, but farmers are quite rightly
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Speaker 3: calling for increased funding to assist them with transitioning away
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Speaker 3: from the live export industry, and they've been healed for
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Speaker 3: Labour's sentences to help stop the bill from passing in
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Speaker 3: the Senate. You know, I think we all know that's
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Speaker 3: not going to happen. But the farmers have been given,
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Speaker 3: or they're going to be given, one hundred and seven
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Speaker 3: million dollars as a package. I mean that is insulting,
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Speaker 3: isn't it. Your industry is being shut down. Here's one
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Speaker 3: hundred and seven million dollars of hush money. It doesn't
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Speaker 3: really go that far.
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Speaker 5: And you have to see where it goes. Actually at all. Now,
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Speaker 5: what we don't want. They don't want one hundred.
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Speaker 1: And seven million dollars.
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Speaker 2: They want an industry.
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Speaker 5: Ttinue to earn export dollars, export dollars for Australia's that's
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Speaker 5: actually what they want to do. They want to continue
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Speaker 5: to have people in jobs in their area. They want
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Speaker 5: to continue providing commerce and cash for the hairdressers for
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Speaker 5: the shops in the town.
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Speaker 1: That's actually what they want to do. Now.
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Speaker 5: The Labor Party won't listen to the fact that we
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Speaker 5: have the highest regulated live sheep industry in the world.
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Speaker 5: They don't understand that if you don't buy a live
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Speaker 5: sheep from Australia, just be buying them out of South
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Speaker 5: Africa or Kenya or Turkey and they have no regulations.
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Speaker 1: I don't care.
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Speaker 5: Just jam them on the boat and the live ones
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Speaker 5: you get paid for at the other end. So this
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Speaker 5: is not actually helping the animal welfare issue as unless
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Speaker 5: you think Australian sheep have more worth than sheep from
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Speaker 5: South Africa, I don't know. Interesting concept that one. But
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Speaker 5: they also don't understand the fact that it's very noxious
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Speaker 5: when you start talking about an industry which you really
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Speaker 5: haven't had no expertise in and the fact that the
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Speaker 5: mortality rate for sheep on a ship is about the
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Speaker 5: same as they are in the paddock.
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Speaker 1: That's where we've got to. That's how far we've come ahead.
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Speaker 5: And the graphic shots you've seen in the past, a
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Speaker 5: person was actually paid for those shots, so he turned
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Speaker 5: off the air conditioner stress the sheep didn't defoul the
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Speaker 5: pens make it look like an absolute misery. Video ed
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Speaker 5: it got paid money, got paid money, and then you
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Speaker 5: saw it on television.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the paid does. I understand though.
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Speaker 1: They understand this.
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Speaker 5: They understand that if they don't win seats in Western
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Speaker 5: Australia at the next election, they aren't going to be
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Speaker 5: the government. And this is a parochically owned industry of
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Speaker 5: Western Australia. West Australia owns a live sheep industry.
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Speaker 1: It is their industry. You know, even the teal voting
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Speaker 1: in the support of the live sheep industry.
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Speaker 5: But what the West Strands hate is Eastern Status telling
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Speaker 5: Western Australia what to do.
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Speaker 1: And this is precisely what's happening. The Eastern Status.
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Speaker 5: From the seat of from mckella, Palm Beach, Scotland, Islands,
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Speaker 5: pits bitwater from people from Bellevue Hill, from people from
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Speaker 5: other labor seats, and Dan Man telling the Live the
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Speaker 5: people of Western Australia, No, no, you fowl and contemptible people.
17:44
Speaker 5: We must come to Western Australia and enlighten you and
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Speaker 5: shut down your industry.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, can you vote for us?
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Speaker 3: Oh it's a great strategy, isn't it. And it's just
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Speaker 3: so stupid, even from an animal welfare perspective, as you said,
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Speaker 3: what do they think if the sheep aren't coming from Australia,
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Speaker 3: where we have strict regulations about animal welfare, what do
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Speaker 3: they think people overseas are going to stop eating lamb?
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Speaker 2: They're going to get it from somewhere else.
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Speaker 3: All they're doing is consigning sheep in other parts of
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Speaker 3: the world to worse lives. So great, one good job
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Speaker 3: now before we go Barnaby. There's been mixed reaction to
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Speaker 3: Julie Nosange's return to Australia. Simon Birmingham ridiculed Albanese's warm welcome.
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Speaker 2: He said that it wasn't appropriate.
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Speaker 3: I know that you've for a long time been supportive
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Speaker 3: of Assange and campaign for his return to Australia. What
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Speaker 3: have you made of it all?
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Speaker 5: Well, for my part, jobs don't move on. The next
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Speaker 5: speech I gave after heland in Australia was not about
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Speaker 5: mister Assange. It was about water security for Twnworth. It
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Speaker 5: was never actually for me about mister loss Angel. It
18:52
Speaker 5: was about extra territoriality and the danger that is for
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Speaker 5: people in Australia that I don't I do not morally
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Speaker 5: abide by what he did. I'm a former serving member
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Speaker 5: of the Defense Force. But that was not the issue.
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Speaker 5: The issue it was not a question about morality or
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Speaker 5: a question about how he perceived things. Was legal, and
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Speaker 5: he never broke a law in Australia, and he was
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Speaker 5: not a citizen of the United States. And the idea
19:17
Speaker 5: that let's take his name out and put your son
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Speaker 5: or daughter's name in there. If your son and daughter
19:22
Speaker 5: did something that might have been quite correct but not illegal,
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Speaker 5: would you want me and then the United States decided
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Speaker 5: that it was improper an offense to them, would you
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Speaker 5: agree to have them taken to the United States and
19:35
Speaker 5: jild for one hundred and seventy five years. I imagine
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Speaker 5: you'd want me to go solely into bat to stop it.
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Speaker 5: So I think one of the confusions is people think
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Speaker 5: I'm making a judgment about mister Assange or what mister
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Speaker 5: Assange did. It was never about that, just like for
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Speaker 5: David Hicks, was about the concept of habeas corpus.
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Speaker 1: You can't keep someone locked up. You've got to take
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Speaker 1: them before a.
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Speaker 5: Court, no matter how despicable that person's actions are alleged
19:59
Speaker 5: to be. But now this issue has been dealt with
20:02
Speaker 5: and I look forward to things moving on because we've
20:08
Speaker 5: got other fish to fry.
20:09
Speaker 1: And yes, I'd be quite frank. I lost a lot
20:12
Speaker 1: of paint.
20:13
Speaker 5: On that journey, but it was worth it because the
20:18
Speaker 5: result is I believe something that's good for other Australians
20:24
Speaker 5: if they find themselves in similar circumstances vis a territoriality.
20:29
Speaker 1: And let's look down the tube. If we believed in that,
20:32
Speaker 1: what happens when.
20:32
Speaker 5: China finds an offense with something an Australian said, and
20:35
Speaker 5: they just happened to be in East in I surfing
20:38
Speaker 5: at Bali, where there's an extradition treaty to China.
20:42
Speaker 1: Would you find it an offense that they would be.
20:45
Speaker 5: Taken from Bali to Beijing to face court for something
20:49
Speaker 5: they said in Australia, or maybe if they insulted the Qur'an.
20:53
Speaker 1: Would you find an offense.
20:54
Speaker 5: If they were extra dieted to readd to face court there, well,
20:57
Speaker 5: of course you would.
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Speaker 3: Let's hope it never comes to that. Barnaby Joyce, thank
21:01
Speaker 3: you for your tone.
21:03
Speaker 1: My pleasure coming up.
21:06
Speaker 3: The gender diversity clinic providing treatment to children as young
21:09
Speaker 3: as just three years old, plus the criminal who didn't
21:13
Speaker 3: have to serve a single day of his thirty five
21:15
Speaker 3: year prison sentence thanks to an assisted dying kid.
21:19
Speaker 2: Don't go away.
21:24
Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 3: You wouldn't know about this if it wasn't for the
21:26
Speaker 3: good work of a South Australian politician. But children as
21:30
Speaker 3: young as three years old are being referred to gender
21:33
Speaker 3: clinics here in Australia. The Women's and Children's Hospital Gender
21:37
Speaker 3: Diversity Clinic in Adelaide has seen three kids aged between
21:41
Speaker 3: three and five eighty kids aged between six and ten in.
21:45
Speaker 2: The past two years.
21:47
Speaker 3: A total of two hundred and eighty five referrals to
21:49
Speaker 3: the clinic have been made for children in that time.
21:52
Speaker 3: I mean children as young as three. Joining me now
21:55
Speaker 3: is the man who unearthed these numbers? Independent South Australian
21:59
Speaker 3: Upper House MP Pangallo, Frank, you have previously pushed for
22:03
Speaker 3: an inquiry into gender dysmorphear and the medical responses to
22:08
Speaker 3: it in South Australia that was hit on the head
22:11
Speaker 3: by the Malanawskis government on the basis of these numbers.
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Speaker 2: Are you going to give it another go?
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Speaker 7: I am going to give it another go, and it
22:22
Speaker 7: isn't far from over. I can tell you that, Caleb.
22:26
Speaker 7: It wasn't brought to a vote and it's still there
22:29
Speaker 7: for it to happen. But these figures that you've just
22:32
Speaker 7: outlined are quite disturbing, and I'll be quite certain they're
22:36
Speaker 7: being replicated around the country, probably in greater numbers. The
22:40
Speaker 7: thing is, why are the authorities, Why are state governments?
22:45
Speaker 7: Why is the federal government avoiding a review of gender
22:50
Speaker 7: affirming practices in Australia and also in South Australia. I
22:55
Speaker 7: can give you the answer for that, because they know
22:58
Speaker 7: that if they do, it'll fin that these practices are
23:02
Speaker 7: actually being harmful to young kids.
23:05
Speaker 3: And that's essentially what they've found overseas. I've written my
23:09
Speaker 3: column in The Advertiser about exactly this issue tomorrow, and
23:14
Speaker 3: you know in the UK, they've banned the NHS, the
23:18
Speaker 3: National Health Service has banned the use of puberty blockers
23:22
Speaker 3: for children. But we continue here unabated, as though there's
23:26
Speaker 3: nothing wrong whatsoever. And when you hear these numbers, I mean, sorry,
23:30
Speaker 3: go on, go on, Frank.
23:33
Speaker 7: Well, I was just going to say, you know, the
23:35
Speaker 7: crazy thing is they're saying that the Cash Review in
23:38
Speaker 7: the UK. Now, the CAST Review was based on all
23:42
Speaker 7: the clinical data that was available to Hillary Casts, in
23:47
Speaker 7: other words, all the scientifically proven data that was out there,
23:51
Speaker 7: and she came to the conclusion that these practices were
23:55
Speaker 7: actually doing more harmed children than any benefits and that
23:59
Speaker 7: there was no level, high level standard of care for
24:03
Speaker 7: these children. Now we're getting the ridiculous situation here in
24:07
Speaker 7: Australia where the federal Health Minister Mike Butler, and also
24:11
Speaker 7: our state minister in South Australia and probably in other
24:13
Speaker 7: states as well, are saying that the CAST guidelines do
24:17
Speaker 7: not apply in Australia.
24:19
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
24:20
Speaker 7: In fact, the CAST Review found that what is happening
24:23
Speaker 7: in Australia being is causing harm to kids.
24:27
Speaker 2: It is crazy.
24:28
Speaker 3: And you can go and have a look on the
24:30
Speaker 3: women's and Children's Hospital Gender Diversity Clinic website, and it
24:34
Speaker 3: talks about all the things that they do there and
24:37
Speaker 3: they say that, you know, they've got a mental health unit,
24:40
Speaker 3: but the mental health unit is basically focused on affirming
24:44
Speaker 3: the beliefs of these children that they want to change gender,
24:48
Speaker 3: and it includes they give out chest binders for free,
24:51
Speaker 3: which are used by girls to suppress their breasts. It
24:55
Speaker 3: then talks about the fact that it prescribes puberty blockers,
24:58
Speaker 3: it prescribes hormone treatments. But when we're talking about, you know,
25:03
Speaker 3: between the ages of three and five, what three year old,
25:07
Speaker 3: four year old, five year old needs to And I
25:11
Speaker 3: acknowledge it's only three of them, but still, what three
25:14
Speaker 3: four five year old needs to be sent off to
25:17
Speaker 3: a gender clinic? And what on earth would a gender
25:20
Speaker 3: clinic be doing with a three, four or five year old.
25:25
Speaker 1: Or exactly?
25:25
Speaker 7: We need to know why these kids are there, and
25:28
Speaker 7: I'll be asking more questions about that. But the other
25:31
Speaker 7: disturbing aspect is also the other ages Calein now, these
25:34
Speaker 7: children aren't mature enough to know whether or not they
25:38
Speaker 7: should be on puberty blockers and what damage it could
25:41
Speaker 7: cause them later in life when we know that they
25:44
Speaker 7: do and they are reversible. The other thing about these
25:47
Speaker 7: gender clinics in Australia is they don't also collect data
25:53
Speaker 7: on those that de transitioned where it didn't work for them.
25:56
Speaker 7: We don't know how many are out there. They've had
26:00
Speaker 7: bad outcomes. Now it shows you just what's going on
26:04
Speaker 7: in these clinics, and I think it's more ideologically driven.
26:08
Speaker 7: It's certainly not medically driven. Because we've seen international reviews
26:13
Speaker 7: some in countries light in the UK, in Europe and
26:17
Speaker 7: also in the US that show that these practices are harmful.
26:22
Speaker 7: It's time to put the brakes on them. I cannot
26:24
Speaker 7: understand why Australia seems to think we are doing the
26:28
Speaker 7: right thing even though you're following the same guidelines. It's
26:32
Speaker 7: just not acceptable and we do need.
26:34
Speaker 1: To have a look at it.
26:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know eighty of them between the ages
26:38
Speaker 3: of six and ten. And of course when you first
26:41
Speaker 3: pushed for that inquiry, the Premier, Peter Malanaskis said that
26:46
Speaker 3: he didn't want to get into the culture wars. All
26:48
Speaker 3: this isn't the culture wars. We're talking about real medical issues,
26:53
Speaker 3: serious irreversible staff being done to children. If that's not
26:57
Speaker 3: worth talking about. I don't know what is Frank Pangalo,
26:59
Speaker 3: thank you so much for your time.
27:02
Speaker 2: Sorry man, thank you very much. Sorry mate, We got
27:04
Speaker 2: to go now.
27:05
Speaker 3: As I talked about on Monday, the notorious Bicycle bandit's
27:08
Speaker 3: so called because he terrorized bank employees and customers over
27:12
Speaker 3: a decade long crime spree in Adelaide with a sawn
27:14
Speaker 3: off shotgun and a bike as his escape vehicle.
27:17
Speaker 2: Kim Alan Parsons is his name.
27:19
Speaker 3: Well, he finally faced justice this week, decades after his crimes,
27:23
Speaker 3: being sentenced to thirty five years in prison. But it
27:25
Speaker 3: wasn't really justice because yesterday he had himself taken from
27:29
Speaker 3: Adelaide ramand Center to Flinder's Medical Center and topped himself
27:33
Speaker 3: because he had terminal cancer and wasn't approved for euthanasia. Now,
27:38
Speaker 3: I was meant to interview former South Australian Victims' Rights
27:41
Speaker 3: Commissioner Michael O'Connor Michael O'Connell sorry live last night, and
27:45
Speaker 3: of course we were interrupted by Julian Assans arriving in Canberra.
27:49
Speaker 3: But he was kind enough to hang around and I
27:50
Speaker 3: spoke to him when I came off here.
27:53
Speaker 2: Michael, I find all of this extraordinary.
27:57
Speaker 3: You know, the bicycle banded and I grew up in
27:59
Speaker 3: adel It was a huge case. Took decades to find
28:03
Speaker 3: this former police officer, and then when he finds out
28:08
Speaker 3: that he has terminal cancer and he is now eligible
28:13
Speaker 3: for youth and Asia, he immediately runs off and pleads guilty.
28:18
Speaker 3: He barely lasted a day after his sentencing before he
28:22
Speaker 3: went off and had himself killed. As a former victims'
28:27
Speaker 3: rights commissioner, I mean, where are the victims in this.
28:31
Speaker 3: They don't really get to see just as done because
28:35
Speaker 3: he escaped as soon as he was sentenced.
28:39
Speaker 6: Well, I'm astounded by the way that this case has evolved.
28:44
Speaker 6: There's been some focus on his repentance and his willingness
28:47
Speaker 6: to pay back money and those sorts of things, but
28:50
Speaker 6: it's really interesting that he's done those things after he
28:53
Speaker 6: got caught. After two decades of mayhem, after two decades
28:58
Speaker 6: of in some cases, ruining the lives at least psychologically
29:03
Speaker 6: and emotionally of his victims, did he ever give them
29:06
Speaker 6: a second thought? And as far as I'm concerned, what
29:09
Speaker 6: has happened here is he has continued while they've been
29:12
Speaker 6: trying to regain control over their lives. Is continued to
29:15
Speaker 6: control their lives by making key decisions that affect them
29:19
Speaker 6: without them being actively involved in those decisions.
29:23
Speaker 3: And this is what I find so galling about it,
29:26
Speaker 3: because victims of crime, of course, have to carry the
29:30
Speaker 3: burden of what has been done to them for the
29:33
Speaker 3: rest of their lives, whereas someone like the bicycle bandit
29:37
Speaker 3: gets to say, okay, I'm out of here. And it
29:39
Speaker 3: was the same last year with a blow called Malcolm
29:42
Speaker 3: Winston Day again in South Australia. He was a music
29:46
Speaker 3: teacher in the eighties and abused two of his students
29:49
Speaker 3: and he was the first prisoner in the country to
29:52
Speaker 3: make use of euthanasia. He also had terminal cancer and
29:56
Speaker 3: he'd only been in jail for a year or two,
29:59
Speaker 3: and the South Australia in Health Minister Chris Picton said
30:01
Speaker 3: at the time that a prisoner has just as much
30:04
Speaker 3: right to euthanasia as anyone else. Well, as far as
30:08
Speaker 3: I'm concerned, they shouldn't have the right to euthanasia. You
30:11
Speaker 3: get locked up because you've committed a crime and we
30:14
Speaker 3: take rights away from you, why should you have the
30:17
Speaker 3: right to euthanasia thus shortening your sentence.
30:24
Speaker 6: But it's always got to be a tension between the
30:26
Speaker 6: rights of a person who commits crimes and the victims.
30:30
Speaker 6: In my humble view, victims interests victims' rights should be
30:34
Speaker 6: the paramount consideration, and in cases such as those that
30:38
Speaker 6: you have mentioned, it's important to distinguish the fact that
30:43
Speaker 6: the purest might argue that the victims did have access
30:47
Speaker 6: to the mechanisms of justice. There was an investigation, a prosecution,
30:51
Speaker 6: to finding guilt and a sentence handed down, but for
30:54
Speaker 6: many victims, For many victims, that is not access to justice.
30:58
Speaker 6: Justice for them is about a person being found responsible
31:02
Speaker 6: for the crime they've committed and.
31:03
Speaker 1: Been held to account.
31:05
Speaker 6: And the way we hold people to account in our
31:07
Speaker 6: justice system is through imprisonment or some other sanction, and
31:12
Speaker 6: to allow people to escape that accountability but to me
31:17
Speaker 6: seems to be profoundly wrong, or at least profoundly wrong
31:20
Speaker 6: unless we follow other principles as we do in our
31:23
Speaker 6: justice system, where where key decisions affect victims, they are involved,
31:28
Speaker 6: they're consulted, they're allowed to express their views, and they're
31:31
Speaker 6: allowed to influence the outcomes. And that's one of the
31:34
Speaker 6: major omissions with the current law. In situations such as this,
31:39
Speaker 6: where we've got a sister dying. The victims should have
31:43
Speaker 6: been consulted, They should have had to say and their concerns,
31:46
Speaker 6: their considerations, their right to justice should have trumped his
31:51
Speaker 6: right to be able to take his life.
31:54
Speaker 3: Well, Michael, you've spent much of your career advocating for
31:58
Speaker 3: and looking after victims, and I think you're one of
32:02
Speaker 3: the best minds in this field in the country. Because
32:04
Speaker 3: you're not the commissioner anymore, but I know you still
32:07
Speaker 3: do work in this area and support so many people.
32:10
Speaker 3: You know intimately how victims of crime feel. How would
32:15
Speaker 3: the victims of the bicycle bandit be feeling right now,
32:19
Speaker 3: knowing that barely a day after he was sentenced he
32:22
Speaker 3: went and had himself killed.
32:26
Speaker 6: Well, the experience of becoming a victim is actually quite
32:29
Speaker 6: a unique individual experience, so there will be a variety
32:33
Speaker 6: of views among those people who were victims. But as
32:36
Speaker 6: we've seen through some of the information that's being released publicly,
32:40
Speaker 6: we've got some of the victims who have had profound
32:45
Speaker 6: changes to their life. Their wellbeing has been affected. Even
32:49
Speaker 6: one of the victims has come forward and said that
32:51
Speaker 6: they are suffering from cancer as well, and they feel
32:56
Speaker 6: that the system has let them down, that they were
33:00
Speaker 6: not able to influence decision, that their concerns there were
33:04
Speaker 6: is their need for justice to be done appears to
33:07
Speaker 6: have been ignored. On the other hand, there may be
33:10
Speaker 6: some of the victims who are quite compassionate and in
33:14
Speaker 6: relation to the matter. We shouldn't put all victims in
33:17
Speaker 6: the same box. But what is important is they all
33:20
Speaker 6: have a right to access justice. They all have a
33:23
Speaker 6: right to be heard, and they should be heard on
33:25
Speaker 6: decisions that affect them. When it comes to voluntary assisted dying,
33:30
Speaker 6: there should be provisions made to allow in those circumstances
33:33
Speaker 6: where someone is a criminal, but the victims to be
33:36
Speaker 6: consulted and their concerns to be taken into account.
33:40
Speaker 3: I just it is such a cop out as far
33:43
Speaker 3: as I'm concerned. You know, he doesn't do any time,
33:46
Speaker 3: and the victims of crime have to do time for
33:49
Speaker 3: the rest of their lives. Michael O'Connell, thank you so.
33:51
Speaker 2: Much for your time.
33:54
Speaker 1: Thanks very much.
33:56
Speaker 2: Just an extraordinary case anyway, coming up.
33:59
Speaker 3: Why it's now going to cost you up to six
34:01
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty percent more to die in Victoria go
34:05
Speaker 3: somewhere else. It's all thanks to a stealthy death tax
34:08
Speaker 3: courtesy of Labor. Plus new data suggests we're closer to
34:11
Speaker 3: becoming a cashless society than you might think.
34:14
Speaker 2: My god, all that up next.
34:19
Speaker 3: But we know that in Victoria there is a tax
34:21
Speaker 3: for almost everything thanks to the great work of the
34:24
Speaker 3: Labor government down there, plunging the state into a never
34:27
Speaker 3: ending black hole of debt. But now even the cost
34:30
Speaker 3: of dying is set to skyrocket. If you thought your
34:33
Speaker 3: land tax was bad enough, well don't cark it, because
34:35
Speaker 3: you'll have to pay even more. The Allen government is
34:38
Speaker 3: drawing up plans to slug grieving families with fee hikes
34:42
Speaker 3: of up to six one hundred and fifty percent to
34:45
Speaker 3: process wills.
34:46
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable.
34:48
Speaker 3: Let's bring in my Bond Girls panel tonight on the
34:51
Speaker 3: Nest with me child adolescent psychologists Claire Row and my
34:54
Speaker 3: late debat co host Liz Storer.
34:56
Speaker 2: Here, I am the thorn.
34:58
Speaker 3: Between the roses to clear this tax.
35:02
Speaker 2: Here what they're going to do.
35:03
Speaker 3: If you have an estate that's between two hundred and
35:06
Speaker 3: fifty and five hundred K, goes from sixty eight dollars
35:09
Speaker 3: sixty to five hundred and fourteen dollars.
35:14
Speaker 2: It's not a.
35:15
Speaker 8: Tax, it's a fee.
35:16
Speaker 9: They's an administrator fee.
35:18
Speaker 10: Yeah.
35:19
Speaker 9: Yeah, Look, at the end of the day, managing a
35:21
Speaker 9: state budget federal budget is the same as your household budget.
35:24
Speaker 9: It's money and money out have you've got a lot
35:26
Speaker 9: going out and you're prepared to rain that in. We've
35:28
Speaker 9: got to look around and see where else we can
35:30
Speaker 9: do this. I mean, at the end of the day, yes,
35:32
Speaker 9: it's a sliding scale. And that's what I've got an
35:34
Speaker 9: issue with. If you've got a if you've got a
35:36
Speaker 9: state half a million and you're paying five hundred dollars,
35:39
Speaker 9: Actually don't have a big issue with that, but the
35:42
Speaker 9: fact is it is a tax because the more you
35:44
Speaker 9: have and the harder you've worked. If it worth a
35:46
Speaker 9: few million, you want to leave it on to the
35:47
Speaker 9: next generation, you're paying up to tens of thousands in probate. Yeah,
35:52
Speaker 9: I mean that's just that someone who's actually sat in
35:53
Speaker 9: front of a probate lawyer in the UK and had
35:56
Speaker 9: had my mouth drop at how much inheritance just ont
36:00
Speaker 9: of the UK government's going to take that.
36:02
Speaker 8: I mean, all these just warrant. We won't hack that.
36:04
Speaker 8: That's you know, and I can't be surprised it's in Victoria.
36:07
Speaker 3: That's why people fled to Queensland many woons ago. I
36:09
Speaker 3: think that was under the Joviilki pedisent days. But it's
36:13
Speaker 3: the principle of it, Liz, Like, sure, out of half
36:16
Speaker 3: a million dollars, perhaps five hundred dollars isn't all that much,
36:19
Speaker 3: But it's the principle of saying, we go from sixty
36:21
Speaker 3: eight bucks to five hundred odd bucks because we desperately
36:25
Speaker 3: need your money, because we've spent every cent we've got
36:28
Speaker 3: in the kitten. Yeah.
36:29
Speaker 11: Look, they're desperately bankrupt, so it makes sense that they're
36:32
Speaker 11: picking on probate fees, among other things, because what they've
36:35
Speaker 11: done here is gone. What taxes do we have that
36:39
Speaker 11: aren't on par.
36:40
Speaker 2: With the other states. And when you look at the
36:42
Speaker 2: other states like.
36:43
Speaker 11: New South Wales, for instance, were the maximum probate is
36:47
Speaker 11: over six thousand, six hundred dollars, Even if labor in
36:51
Speaker 11: Victoria were to put in this new god awful sliding scale,
36:56
Speaker 11: their maximum would be less than half, in fact, close
37:04
Speaker 11: to a third of what the maximum he is here
37:07
Speaker 11: in New South Wales. So as terrible as this sounds,
37:11
Speaker 11: they're not half as bad as the other states whose
37:14
Speaker 11: probateees are extortionate in comparison.
37:17
Speaker 3: Sorry, can I get a piece of I need you
37:19
Speaker 3: to sign on the dotted line to admit this is
37:22
Speaker 3: like the first time.
37:24
Speaker 1: This is the college they are banging.
37:27
Speaker 2: I've defended the Allen government ship.
37:29
Speaker 11: It's true if you have, if they were to put
37:33
Speaker 11: these changes in place, if you have it a state
37:35
Speaker 11: worth over a million dollars, the most you're going to
37:38
Speaker 11: pay in terms of a probate fee is still two
37:41
Speaker 11: and a half grand just over whereas here in New
37:44
Speaker 11: South Wales you're talking over six six hundred babies. So
37:48
Speaker 11: I think right now, obviously Victorians have been getting a
37:52
Speaker 11: very cheap deal. If you want to die, do it now.
37:55
Speaker 2: It done well, there's a recommendation for you.
37:59
Speaker 11: But even once these changes in place, if they do
38:02
Speaker 11: this is just a review. It's still open for public submissions.
38:06
Speaker 11: Hopefully they'll get slammed and then won't.
38:08
Speaker 2: Dare give up take this action?
38:09
Speaker 11: But I think they do, it will still be much cheaper.
38:12
Speaker 3: And sure, I think it's just the point of right.
38:15
Speaker 3: No tax should be raised. All taxes should go down
38:17
Speaker 3: absolutely every week. Now, while we're on the topic of money,
38:20
Speaker 3: We've heard plenty of times that the use of cash
38:23
Speaker 3: is waning. I think we know that, But the amount
38:25
Speaker 3: of money people are spending with digital wallets, and that's
38:28
Speaker 3: when you take your phone and you do the tap
38:30
Speaker 3: and pay, is now more than ATM withdrawals. One hundred
38:34
Speaker 3: and twenty six billion dollars was paid with phones in
38:38
Speaker 3: the past year compared to one hundred and five billion
38:41
Speaker 3: that was withdrawn from ATMs. And this is new data
38:45
Speaker 3: from the Australian Banking Association and what they found is
38:48
Speaker 3: that in the last five years, clear there's been an
38:50
Speaker 3: eighteen fold increase in the use.
38:52
Speaker 2: Of digital wallets.
38:54
Speaker 3: But of course what it says and everywhere you go
38:56
Speaker 3: now ATMs are disappearing, bank branches are disappearing.
39:00
Speaker 2: You know, there's no escape from it.
39:02
Speaker 3: And those of us who still use cash, at some
39:05
Speaker 3: point we're going to be up the creek.
39:07
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean it's it's I don't see how we're
39:08
Speaker 9: going to pull it back now.
39:10
Speaker 8: I don't even carry a card around.
39:11
Speaker 9: I mean, I've just got Any time I take a
39:12
Speaker 9: card actually is when my phone's on twenty percent battery.
39:15
Speaker 8: Because I think I'm not I'm not going to be
39:16
Speaker 8: able to buy anything because you know it's on the
39:18
Speaker 8: staff phone. I'm stuffed. So yeah it is.
39:21
Speaker 9: And aniblyized come out and said, oh, don't worry, we're
39:23
Speaker 9: not getting rid of cash. But I don't have an
39:25
Speaker 9: ATM near me and I live in the middle of Sydney.
39:28
Speaker 9: I've had two local branch closed. And I let me
39:30
Speaker 9: tell you, as a parent, if you have a cake
39:32
Speaker 9: door cake stall day at school, it is bedlam in
39:36
Speaker 9: my house in the morning because they need.
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Speaker 8: A two dollar coin and it's like, I don't got
39:39
Speaker 8: to have a too look.
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Speaker 9: And then we have to do the rounds trying to
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Speaker 9: find an ATM, and then I have to go and buy
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Speaker 9: a coffee to change it into.
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Speaker 2: It's just it's awful.
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Speaker 8: So yeah, I'm not sure it is. It is the
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Speaker 8: way the future.
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Speaker 9: And the other thing is, you know, people used to
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Speaker 9: carry coens and they used to use cards for twenty
39:54
Speaker 9: dollars and above. Now people it's like a two dollar
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Speaker 9: purchase and it's you know, you know, that's that's just
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Speaker 9: the way people do it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm really scared. I'll tell a funny story.
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Speaker 3: Mate grandfather when he married his second wife or before him,
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Speaker 3: when they met, she was in his car one day
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Speaker 3: they're going on a date, and she opened up the
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Speaker 3: glove box and was full of coins, and she was like.
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Speaker 2: This man must be rich.
40:17
Speaker 3: And it was just that every time he got some change,
40:19
Speaker 3: he did chuck it in the glove box. So things
40:21
Speaker 3: like that will never happen. And perhaps my grandfather would
40:23
Speaker 3: have never remembered.
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Speaker 1: Well, you may have.
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Speaker 3: But if we go down this road and we lose cash,
40:30
Speaker 3: we know where we end up.
40:32
Speaker 1: It's not a pretty place.
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Speaker 11: Cbdc's digital sorry, Central banking, digital currency. And what people
40:39
Speaker 11: don't understand about this is this is the end goal.
40:42
Speaker 11: Three countries have already put it in place. Over one
40:44
Speaker 11: hundred others are in exploratory that they're looking at doing it.
40:51
Speaker 11: Haven't quite put it in place yet. But what this
40:54
Speaker 11: means is the government has so much control. Imagine the
40:58
Speaker 11: power if they can track and rate every single purchase
41:01
Speaker 11: that you make. So the government goes brilliant. We've got
41:04
Speaker 11: CBDC now, Claire. So anything that you purchase, we're going
41:09
Speaker 11: to tax extortionately, anything that we say has a higher
41:13
Speaker 11: carbon load. Also, you're trying to buy eggs. You've already
41:17
Speaker 11: bought eggs this fortnight and we're rationing those at the
41:20
Speaker 11: moment due to whatever reason.
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Speaker 8: That money agriculture money launder.
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Speaker 2: You shouldn't have admitted that. It'll be like.
41:29
Speaker 11: You've you've already had two flights this month.
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Speaker 2: You can't well and this is the thing. I don't
41:35
Speaker 2: think we've got time to discuss it.
41:36
Speaker 3: But while we're talking about flights, you thought Victoria was
41:38
Speaker 3: bad with their death tax. The real impact of the
41:41
Speaker 3: green lefts carbon neutral agenda on consumers is coming through
41:44
Speaker 3: because the European aviation giant.
41:48
Speaker 2: How do I say that? There we go? That's better, Tanza, Well,
41:56
Speaker 2: I don't mind making because they're going to.
41:59
Speaker 3: Impose a green tax on passages in order to cover
42:02
Speaker 3: the cost of complying with green regulations. Could be as
42:04
Speaker 3: much as one hundred and fifteen Australian dollars any worse, Clio,
42:09
Speaker 3: liztra thank you so much for joining me tonight. Well,
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Speaker 3: coming up the latest from the UK with Patrick Christie's
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Speaker 3: the scandal ravaging the Conservative Party.
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Speaker 2: There goes from bad to worse. Don't go away.
42:24
Speaker 3: Let's go over to the UK now, where the election
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Speaker 3: betting scandal is deepening. First, it was insiders who knew
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Speaker 3: the date of the election, betting on when the election
42:32
Speaker 3: would be held, and now it's candidates betting against themselves.
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Speaker 3: Let's get the latest with GPN news host Patrick Christie's
42:39
Speaker 3: Patrick senior Tory Philip Davies. He's the latest one to
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Speaker 3: be caught up in all of this. He's been accused
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Speaker 3: of placing an eight thousand pounds bet that he'd lose
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Speaker 3: his own seat.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's absolutely bonkers.
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Speaker 12: I mean, to make much as worse, his wife is
42:57
Speaker 12: in the cabinet, so his wife is a cover minister,
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Speaker 12: and he has decided to bet apparently eight thousand pounds
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Speaker 12: on himself losing. I've got a quote here from Philip
43:08
Speaker 12: Davies which is hilarious. Right, he says, what's it got
43:11
Speaker 12: to do with you whether or not I did or
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Speaker 12: I didn't.
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Speaker 10: I hope to win, but I expect to lose. He
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Speaker 10: then goes on.
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Speaker 12: He then goes on, in the two thousand and five election,
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Speaker 12: I busted a gut to win. I had a bet
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Speaker 12: on myself to lose in two thousand and five as well.
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Speaker 10: I mean, this is absolutely remarkable. These people are just
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Speaker 10: betting on themselves so and showing zero remorse for it.
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Speaker 2: I will stress.
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Speaker 12: It's not illegal. I mean, it isn't illegal. It's just
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Speaker 12: I think morally bankrupt.
43:37
Speaker 3: Is I'm surprised it's not illegal, both because I have
43:41
Speaker 3: horses in Victoria here in Australia, right rots horses, and
43:44
Speaker 3: if I lay a bit against my own horse, that
43:48
Speaker 3: is I'm having a bit that my horse is going
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Speaker 3: to lose.
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Speaker 2: That's against the rules. As an owner, I can't do it.
43:53
Speaker 3: I'm surprised you knew it as a candidate any wait,
43:56
Speaker 3: good luck to him.
43:57
Speaker 2: He sort of wins either way. Now, Nigel Forag.
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Speaker 12: Of course there is also a gu sorry to interrupt,
44:03
Speaker 12: but there is just a quick There is a quick
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Speaker 12: one that's hilarious.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 12: There is an MP who, just by complete chance, bless him,
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Speaker 12: put a bet on a July of the fourth election
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Speaker 12: about six months ago and one. And now everyone thinks
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Speaker 12: he's implicated in this, but he genuinely just got lucky.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god. It just gets bidder and bitterer, doesn't it.
44:23
Speaker 3: I tell you what UK politics does scandals bitterer than
44:26
Speaker 3: anyone else, I reckon. Now, Nigel Farag, the leader of
44:30
Speaker 3: Reform UK, he's gaining grounds, seems pretty certain he'll win Clacton,
44:36
Speaker 3: and he's coming out and said that Britain should cut
44:38
Speaker 3: off funding to France if it continues to escort migrant
44:41
Speaker 3: boats across the channel. He was on the lookout for
44:44
Speaker 3: these migrant crossings the other day.
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Speaker 2: Have a look.
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Speaker 4: You can see a white dinghy. There are forty five
44:51
Speaker 4: people on board. Behind it, you can see an escort vessel.
44:56
Speaker 4: Because that's what the French do. Despite the five hundred
44:59
Speaker 4: million quick we've given them, they literally, once these boats
45:01
Speaker 4: are afloat, it's thought them to our twelve mile line
45:04
Speaker 4: where they hand them over to border force them.
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Speaker 2: I mean this is a serious problem for the UK.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely, I mean it is a slow paced invasion, right.
45:19
Speaker 12: I think it's quite fair to say fifty thousand people.
45:22
Speaker 12: Since our Prime Minister said he was going to stop
45:24
Speaker 12: the boats, that's not stopping the boats. We've given the
45:26
Speaker 12: French at least five hundred million pounds of British taxpayers money,
45:30
Speaker 12: on top of the eight million pounds of British taxpayers
45:32
Speaker 12: money we spend every single day on keeping these illegal
45:36
Speaker 12: people in hotels. The French have been filmed waving these
45:40
Speaker 12: people off. They've also, it's emerged, been spending some of
45:44
Speaker 12: our taxpayers money just securing some of their own properties
45:48
Speaker 12: so that migrants can't live in there whilst they come
45:51
Speaker 12: to Britain and they're going to be taking all their
45:53
Speaker 12: police off the beaches to go and protect the Paris Olympics.
45:57
Speaker 12: Nigel's got a point, right, which is that what on
45:59
Speaker 12: earth are we paying for? But you know we're about
46:02
Speaker 12: to have record day, record day, record day in the
46:04
Speaker 12: English Channel, and you know it is going to be
46:07
Speaker 12: a massive problem for the Labor leader who's coming in
46:10
Speaker 12: and as far as we can tell, wants to allow
46:12
Speaker 12: them all to claim asylum.
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Speaker 10: I mean, it's bonkers.
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Speaker 3: Well, just when we thought the world couldn't get any
46:18
Speaker 3: more bonkers, the work Brigade had done it again. The
46:21
Speaker 3: statue of Virginia Wolfe has had a QR code added
46:25
Speaker 3: that you scan it and had explained her imperialist attitude
46:29
Speaker 3: and offensive opinions. Now this is part of a scheme
46:32
Speaker 3: by Labour's Camden Council in London drawn up in the
46:35
Speaker 3: wake of Black Lives Meta protests.
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Speaker 2: Nothing can be untouched anymore, Petrick.
46:44
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's absolutely insane.
46:45
Speaker 12: Really, So again I've just got to quote here that
46:47
Speaker 12: it says that she has unacceptable views, right. I mean,
46:52
Speaker 12: this lady is such an icon that there's a statue
46:55
Speaker 12: of her. I think she's an international icon. She was
46:58
Speaker 12: a lady of her time, no doubt. But you know
47:01
Speaker 12: to say things like oh, at times she might have
47:03
Speaker 12: dressed in blackface, Well, well, there goes the statue of
47:06
Speaker 12: Justin Trudeau, doesn't it.
47:08
Speaker 1: Really?
47:09
Speaker 12: There are also statues of Gandhy as well, undoubtedly a
47:12
Speaker 12: great figure, but I mean Gandhy was friends with Mussolini.
47:15
Speaker 12: So do we have a QR code on Gandy statue?
47:17
Speaker 12: What do we do for the big one.
47:18
Speaker 10: Of Mandela that we've got around the corner here?
47:20
Speaker 12: You know, real freedom fighters helped to wend apartheid, absolute legend.
47:24
Speaker 10: You know, did also at some point support a group
47:26
Speaker 10: that lot of car bombs.
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Speaker 12: I mean, do we have to do this with everybody now?
47:28
Speaker 12: It's absolutely bonkers.
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Speaker 10: It is just a way of the left.
47:31
Speaker 12: As Camden Council is getting stuck right in and just
47:34
Speaker 12: trying to ruin everything. It's the same council, by the way,
47:37
Speaker 12: that spent loads of money changing a street name from
47:40
Speaker 12: black Boy Lane and then have to change it back
47:43
Speaker 12: because residents, including black people who having to live on
47:46
Speaker 12: that road, by the way, just liked it the way
47:48
Speaker 12: it was, So this is the people that we're dealing with.
47:50
Speaker 3: It.
47:50
Speaker 2: Ah, It's just incredible.
47:52
Speaker 3: And now I wish I had time to read you
47:53
Speaker 3: the full quote, but I was fiddling around in the
47:56
Speaker 3: head break before and I came across what is probably
47:58
Speaker 3: my favorite early story from the UK so far. And
48:02
Speaker 3: this is a bloke who's running for Labor who came
48:06
Speaker 3: up against a constituent who told him that they were
48:09
Speaker 3: going to tax condoms and he was really worried about it.
48:12
Speaker 3: And it turns out that Labour wants to tack tax
48:15
Speaker 3: non doms, which is people who actually live in the
48:18
Speaker 3: UK but have houses elsewhere and try and tax benefits.
48:22
Speaker 2: He was so worried he wouldn't vote Labor because of
48:25
Speaker 2: the condom tax.
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Speaker 3: I love it so much, Pastick Patrick Christie's thank you
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Speaker 3: so much for your time.
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Speaker 2: That's it from me.
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Speaker 3: Andrew Bold is back here on Monday, and don't miss
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Speaker 3: the US Report tomorrow night at eight pm. I'll be
48:35
Speaker 3: here breaking down the presidential debate.
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Speaker 2: Up now. Sharry Markson