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Speaker 1: Hi, gain everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading
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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast the if You're feeling all right. Oh. Addition,
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Speaker 1: as the Bengals score nine points in the last three
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Speaker 1: minutes and forty two seconds to stun the Saints thirty
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Speaker 1: to twenty six. Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, one
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Speaker 1: on one interviews with Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and others,
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Speaker 1: followed by analysis from my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. Then,
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Speaker 1: the greatest thing since road tripping. Bengals fans, they say
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Speaker 1: you can see just about anything on Bourbon Street in
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Speaker 1: New Orleans. Many of those things not meant for younger eyes.
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Speaker 1: But the primary thing I saw on Saturday night were
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Speaker 1: Bengals fans, hundreds of them, maybe thousands. And if I
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Speaker 1: would have accepted every offer for a free beer, I
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Speaker 1: would have looked like Nicholas Cage in leaving Las Vegas.
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Speaker 1: Many people travel to New Orleans to paint the town red.
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Speaker 1: This weekend, the Big Easy was painted orange and black.
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Speaker 1: Now let's get to the radio replays from the Bengals
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Speaker 1: third win in a row inside the Superdome. Here comes
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Speaker 1: the punt. Good looking punt tailor back pedaling and he
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Speaker 1: will start from the eight yard line, straight ahead to
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Speaker 1: the fifty to twenty sideline. Twenty five fumbles the ball
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Speaker 1: and the Saint Street cover at the Bengals thirty two
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Speaker 1: yard lines. Dalkon ready for the shotgun snap. Andy drops
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Speaker 1: back five steps, throws it has caught at the three.
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Speaker 1: It's a touchdown. Trey Kuan Smith cutting toward the goalpost
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Speaker 1: to make the catch and the Saints are on the scoreboard.
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Speaker 1: First third and goal from the nine. Joe back to throw,
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Speaker 1: pump fakes, throw short, get it by mixing at the five,
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Speaker 1: charges into the end zone, touchdown, Bengals a nine yard
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Speaker 1: strike on third down and goal and the Bengals are
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Speaker 1: a pat away from tying the game. Dalton is under center,
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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara back in at running back receiver goes in
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Speaker 1: jet motion. They give it to him. Nobody is there
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Speaker 1: for cincinnt Shaheed to the twenty fifteen ten five touchdown. Wow,
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Speaker 1: single high safety blitz coming. Burrow trying to step away
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Speaker 1: from the rush. He does it runs up the middle
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Speaker 1: of the field of the ten five touchdown. As Joe
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Speaker 1: Burrow crosses the goal line with the ball in his
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Speaker 1: left hand fully extended, goes into the back corner of
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Speaker 1: the end zone and spins it like he's rolling dice.
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Speaker 1: There is nobody. No body from the middle of the
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Speaker 1: football field to the left sideline, I mean everybody is.
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Speaker 1: It's like the fuel was tilted to its right and
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow rant left. All buy is lonesome. Burrow catches,
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Speaker 1: looks fire, Chase touchdown, ran a skinny post. Burrow threw
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Speaker 1: a bullet right on the money. Chase does the gritty Huber,
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Speaker 1: extends the hands, catches, puts the ball down. The kick
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Speaker 1: is on its way and it is good. Yeah. As
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Speaker 1: the Bengals pull within two with three minutes and forty
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Speaker 1: one seconds to go. If you include the playoffs, Evan
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Speaker 1: McPherson is a ridiculous sixteen of eighteen on kicks of
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Speaker 1: fifty plus yards. Dalton looks over the defense, catches the
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Speaker 1: shotgun snap. He's straight back to throw its hit from behind.
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Speaker 1: The ball is incomplete. The Bengals will scoop it up
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Speaker 1: and run it back, but it's an incomplete pass. Trey
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Speaker 1: Hendrickson got to the arm of Andy Dalton and the
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Speaker 1: Saints will have to punt it away, burrowing the gun.
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Speaker 1: Mixing to his left. Joe drops back to throw his pass,
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Speaker 1: caught by Chase at the fifty runs through an arm
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Speaker 1: Tag down the side. Baby, he's gonna take it to
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Speaker 1: the house. Jamar Chase a sixty yard touchdown and the
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Speaker 1: Bengals have the lead with one fifty seven to go. Unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: Dalton ready for the shotgun snap thirty three seconds to go.
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Speaker 1: He's back to pass. He's gonna fling it high and
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Speaker 1: deep down the sideline. It is knocked away out of bounds.
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Speaker 1: No penalty flag down? Was that Dax Hill sprinting over
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Speaker 1: to knocked that out of bounds. The Bengals rookie running
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Speaker 1: toward the sideline and getting a hand on it, and
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Speaker 1: that is Coffin nail Bam. The final score Cincinnati thirty,
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Speaker 1: New Orleans twenty six. For the past forty eight years,
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Speaker 1: the Superdome has been the site of many of America's
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Speaker 1: biggest sporting events, including seven Super Bowls, five final fours,
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Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali's last professional win, and numerous college football games
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Speaker 1: that have decided the national championship, including a game in
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Speaker 1: January of twenty twenty that featured one of the most
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Speaker 1: memorable performances in college football history, as Joe Burrow through
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Speaker 1: for four hundred sixty three yards and five touchdowns and
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Speaker 1: ran for fifty eight yards in another score in LSU's
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Speaker 1: forty two to twenty five win over Clemson. His favorite
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Speaker 1: target in that game was Jamar Chase, who caught nine
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Speaker 1: passes for two hundred twenty one yards and two t d's.
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Speaker 1: So it was certainly fitting on Sunday that Burrow walked
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Speaker 1: into the Superdome wearing the jersey that Jamar wore in
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Speaker 1: that game. Rarely do games follow the Hollywood script, but
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Speaker 1: this one did to a t as burrow sixty yard
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Speaker 1: touchdown pass to Chase won the game with less than
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Speaker 1: two minutes to go. Dave Lapham caught up with Burrow
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Speaker 1: in the locker room. Joe second half eleven for twelve,
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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy nine yards to touchdowns. What happened
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Speaker 1: on the incompletion? Just kidding? I mean today it was
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Speaker 1: just a great day. We had to fight back from
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Speaker 1: adversity all day. Defense got to stop when we needed to.
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Speaker 1: Offensive line played great. You know, we got the ball
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Speaker 1: out quickly. Receiver has played great. We're gonna build off
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Speaker 1: of this win and keep it going. You wore at
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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase's LSU jersey. It's almost like a precursor to
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Speaker 1: what was gonna take place. You and Jamar hook up
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Speaker 1: for I think seven catches. He had one hundred and
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Speaker 1: thirty five yards, a couple of touchdowns. Your numbers were staggering.
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Speaker 1: What is it about New Orleans and you guys, I
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Speaker 1: don't know. It's something about this state that just you know,
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Speaker 1: brings the best out of us. Great fans. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's great to come back and he's you know, experienced
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Speaker 1: the atmosphere of a football game in Louisiana. This a
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Speaker 1: great day for us. What about your legs on the scramble.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I've never seen like two thirds of the
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Speaker 1: football field cleared out and left side you and Hurst
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Speaker 1: on a little drag and it took the only defender
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Speaker 1: or what I mean from the right hash mark to
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Speaker 1: the left sideline. It was like unbelievable. Yeah, they brought
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Speaker 1: a saw pressure. It was a it was a you know,
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Speaker 1: a tough pressure look. And Elsie was able to get
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Speaker 1: out to the nickel blitzing late took it took enough
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Speaker 1: off of his I could stop up and that go
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Speaker 1: make a play. So your red zone offense was unbelievable.
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Speaker 1: Every time you get in the red zone, you score
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Speaker 1: a touchdown. They got in the red zone four times,
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Speaker 1: had to settle for four field goals. That was a
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Speaker 1: ball game, wasn't it. That's the ball game. You know
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Speaker 1: if you if you get down there and score score touchdowns,
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Speaker 1: you're usually gonna be able to pull out a W.
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Speaker 1: And if your defense holds into field goals, that's a
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Speaker 1: recipe for success. No turnovers by the offense, no takeaways
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Speaker 1: by the defense, but to turnover unfortunately on special teams,
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Speaker 1: so your minus won and when you get behind because
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Speaker 1: of that turnover, it just seemed like it took a while.
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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, getting behind by a touchdown on
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Speaker 1: the road is a tough deal, isn't it. Yeah, they're
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Speaker 1: a good defense, They're really good defense, and so you know,
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Speaker 1: we mean a second half, we're able to turn it on.
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Speaker 1: You gotta give credits to them in our first quarter,
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Speaker 1: but I think second quarter on we were lights out.
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Speaker 1: You were lights out the whole game, Joe Burrow Man,
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you, when you have to ros to the occasion,
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Speaker 1: you rise above the occasion. Man, appreciate it. Arrow completed
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Speaker 1: seventy six percent of his passes and through for exactly
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Speaker 1: three hundred yards, with three touchdowns, no picks, a passer
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Speaker 1: rating of one twenty six, and a touchdown run. For
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Speaker 1: good measure, He's accounted for ten touchdowns the last two
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Speaker 1: times he's played in the Superdome. Jamar Chase finished with
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Speaker 1: seven catches for one hundred and thirty two yards and
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Speaker 1: two tds, and I spent a couple of minutes with him, Jamark,
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Speaker 1: can you describe just how meaningful it was for you
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Speaker 1: to have the kind of game you did today and
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Speaker 1: score the game winning touchdown with less than two minutes
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Speaker 1: to go was a good opportunity to play back at home,
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Speaker 1: playing for to my family and fans and just put
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Speaker 1: on a show. So when that pass comes your way,
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Speaker 1: I think most of us are thinking, all right, that's
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Speaker 1: eight to twelve yards in a first down. You turned
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Speaker 1: it into a six styard house called describe it just
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Speaker 1: making somebody missing, you know, getting a lot of space
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Speaker 1: on the field is just feel recognition of me and
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Speaker 1: just you know, making a play on my feet and
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Speaker 1: being a playmaker. What did Joe Burrow walking into the
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Speaker 1: stadium wearing your national championship jersey? Meaning today they gave
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Speaker 1: us the energy as a as an offense, the end
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Speaker 1: to me and to him, I felt like, just coming
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Speaker 1: into this game, you know, we had to make a
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Speaker 1: statement on who we are and where we need to
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Speaker 1: get back to. Did he request to wear it? Yes?
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Speaker 1: He did. Yeah, when did that happen? Um? Day before
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Speaker 1: we left, you know he texts. Actually the night before
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Speaker 1: we left, he texts my phone was like do you
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Speaker 1: have any jersey? And the day we was leaving, you know,
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Speaker 1: he I say, yeah, you know I had to take
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Speaker 1: it off my wall, but yeah, yeah I found up
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Speaker 1: the day Were you surprised What was your reaction? Um No,
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Speaker 1: I wasn't. I just didn't know what he was gonna
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Speaker 1: do it. I wasn't too surprised. I just ain't know
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Speaker 1: what he's gonna do it seven catches for you, six
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Speaker 1: for te six for Tyler. That the kind of way
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Speaker 1: it's supposed to look. That's how it needs to be.
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Speaker 1: God damn, I didn't know that. I wish i'd told
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Speaker 1: me that there. Well, what was what was uh? TB stats?
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Speaker 1: What was TB? They both had six catches for about
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Speaker 1: sixty some yards and you had seven for like a
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Speaker 1: buck thirty. I'm bad. It's not bad. Actually I need that.
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Speaker 1: So you guys were kind of swimming uphill all day.
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Speaker 1: The Saints were up by ten, they were up by nine,
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Speaker 1: then they're up by five. How does it feel when
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Speaker 1: you're able to overcome all of that and win? It
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Speaker 1: felt good, man. Just you know, we was gonna dog
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Speaker 1: fight the whole game, and you know we had We
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Speaker 1: knew he was gonna be in a dog fighting. You know,
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Speaker 1: we we came out hand and and fought and the
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Speaker 1: music was pumping. Everybody was psyched in here as this
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Speaker 1: kind of a big emotional lift considering you have three
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Speaker 1: losses that ended on field goals by the other team. No,
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Speaker 1: we can't were about that right there. We gotta we
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Speaker 1: gotta get on this run and execute and you know
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Speaker 1: be offense that we know we are. So we gotta
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Speaker 1: put those losses behind us. And where about this win
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Speaker 1: we have and next week coming up? Any contact after
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Speaker 1: the game with the many friends and family that we're
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Speaker 1: in the stands about to go to them right now,
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Speaker 1: I'm gotta go right now, So I need to you go, sir.
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Speaker 1: That's tomar Chase. I also spoke to Joe Mixon after
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Speaker 1: carries on Sunday, but he averaged five point six yards
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Speaker 1: per attempt for the second game in a row. He
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Speaker 1: also caught four passes, including his first TD catch this year.
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Speaker 1: We are in the locker room with Joe Mixon. The
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Speaker 1: music is pumping. Everybody's got a big grin. Describe the
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Speaker 1: satisfaction of coming from behind all day and ultimately winning
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Speaker 1: this game. Yeah. Man, you know when a defense I
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Speaker 1: needed to step up. They made a hell of a
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Speaker 1: stop our offense. We knew a week went out there again,
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Speaker 1: we knew we was gonna come through and deliver, and
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Speaker 1: we we delivered in a measure way. You know, I'm
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Speaker 1: very excited for you know, the guys. We came through
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Speaker 1: and most importantly bring home to win. So as long
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Speaker 1: as we keep on building, you know, taking it one
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Speaker 1: day at a time and you know, keep dishing off
12:09
Speaker 1: of what the defense gives us, I think will be
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Speaker 1: a hell of a football team, especially playing complimentary football
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Speaker 1: with the run in the past and keeping the defense
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Speaker 1: balance or you know, us being balanced and keeping the
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Speaker 1: defense honest. Homecomings are special. How cool was it to
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Speaker 1: see Jamar half the game he had and the game
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Speaker 1: winning touchdown on that sixty yard play with less than
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Speaker 1: two minutes to go. Yeah, man, I was a hell
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Speaker 1: of a play. He came through and deliver. I remember,
12:35
Speaker 1: you know, talking to him on a sideline like broth,
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Speaker 1: like it's gonna come. I'm telling you, like and literally
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Speaker 1: everything I said happened. I was like, broth you get
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Speaker 1: a first down, I'm like, bro flex like show ya, grill,
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Speaker 1: do your name, bro, Like this shit gonna come to you.
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Speaker 1: And he was like all right, like and I'm lik
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Speaker 1: And after that, I'm like, the big one gonna come.
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Speaker 1: And literally that's exactly what happened. He got a big,
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Speaker 1: crucial first down for about like I want to say,
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Speaker 1: like eighteen yards or thirteen and all of a sad
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Speaker 1: and he ended up coming with a big one. So
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Speaker 1: I thought he did a hell of a job, you know,
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Speaker 1: staying focus and me trying to keep him on his game,
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Speaker 1: and uh, when when we needed the most, he delivered. So,
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Speaker 1: like I said, it's a great feeling, man, and I'm
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Speaker 1: happy for him. What kinds of things are being set
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Speaker 1: on the sideline when you guys work down by ten,
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Speaker 1: down by nine, had to keep trying to come back. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, just don't flinch, keep on going, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We were in the game and we
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Speaker 1: ain't gonna never give up on each other, you know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So everybody stayed true to the game plan.
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Speaker 1: Everybody was executing most importantly, and um, like I said,
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Speaker 1: we can't through and deliver. So it's a great feeling.
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Speaker 1: You know, the uh steal one from away team and
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Speaker 1: you know, take one to the crib. So we're gonna
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Speaker 1: enjoy this win, get back to work on Monday, and
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Speaker 1: uh get ready for Atlema. There always a lot of
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Speaker 1: heroes in a win. Dax Hill winds up making the
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Speaker 1: final play defensively, kind of his first big play as
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Speaker 1: a rookie. Yeah, he Uh, his time gonna come. He's
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Speaker 1: been patient. Um, he's been you know, doing all the
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Speaker 1: things that he needs to do as a rookie. And
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm excited for him. I'm glad you made
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Speaker 1: that played. I was huge for him, and like I said, man,
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Speaker 1: I'm just happy that we came came out with the victory.
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Speaker 1: Here's one more one on one interview as Laps spend
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Speaker 1: two and a half minutes with Zach Taylor after the win.
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Speaker 1: I'm really proud of these guys for just hanging in
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Speaker 1: because I would say that it felt like they had
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Speaker 1: a lot of momentum for big corse of the game
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Speaker 1: when they were chewing up the clock in their possessions.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't so much touch scorn touchdown as it was
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Speaker 1: just the time of possession felt like it was getting
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Speaker 1: away from us, especially there at the end of the
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Speaker 1: half at the beginning of the third quarter. Soever guys,
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Speaker 1: just to show that kind of resiliency, our depth had
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Speaker 1: to step up, because we had some guys go down
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Speaker 1: to that game, and everyone did and found a way
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Speaker 1: to get us a win. Like you said, you start thinking,
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Speaker 1: for how many possessions do we have? The way they
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Speaker 1: were taking seven and a half minutes on every possession,
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Speaker 1: and you guys scored so quickly. I mean, it was amazing.
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Speaker 1: Or even stepped up on that last drive and got
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Speaker 1: that second to last drive. We got that stop because
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Speaker 1: that was the battle you were fighting. When we kicked
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Speaker 1: to the field goal to go down two, I think
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Speaker 1: it was that was the challenge, right there was how
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Speaker 1: much time were we going to have left? Because they
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Speaker 1: were doing a good job taking up the clock, and
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Speaker 1: even though we weren't getting them up points necessary in
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Speaker 1: every drive, it was you know, there was a it
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Speaker 1: was a possession battle there. So unfortunately even stepped up
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Speaker 1: and made a tough kick, and then our defense made
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Speaker 1: a stop and got us the ball back and we
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Speaker 1: were able to score. But we needed o guys to
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Speaker 1: step up in those last moments, and they did. Joe
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Speaker 1: in the second half coach eleven for twelve one hundred
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Speaker 1: and seventy nine yards and two touchdowns. I was kidding
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Speaker 1: them when we talked earlier what happened on the incompletion.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just unbelievable. Yeah, I got to think
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Speaker 1: through what the incompletion was, you know, but you know,
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Speaker 1: he just really got hot and you could feel it.
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Speaker 1: Once we kind of got into the rhythm of the
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Speaker 1: game and felt like we had a good understanding the
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Speaker 1: structure they were playing. They made some adjustments and they
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Speaker 1: made things challenging for us. But those were the moments
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Speaker 1: our guys stepped up. Maybe when the play call wasn't perfect,
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Speaker 1: Joe found a way to find guys that had the
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Speaker 1: best matchups, and those guys stepped up and made plays.
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Speaker 1: What is it about LSU and you know New Orleans
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Speaker 1: and I mean chasing Bar When they get on that stage,
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Speaker 1: they're stars, There's no doubt about it. You know, when
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Speaker 1: these moments get big, we need our big, our big
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Speaker 1: time players to step up, and that's what they did today,
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Speaker 1: and you just got to continue to give them opportunities
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Speaker 1: to do that, and I thought today we did and
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Speaker 1: they took advantage of it, and you know, so it's
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Speaker 1: it's a proud of those guys the way they stepped
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Speaker 1: up and helped us win this game. Coach, congratulations, big win.
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Speaker 1: This is one of those kind of victories that you
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Speaker 1: know as you prepare to go one and all again
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Speaker 1: next week. It's a good way to start the week. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we needed this momentum going into a home game next
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Speaker 1: week against Atlanta. I think it's Atlanta. Yes, I'm not sure.
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Speaker 1: I hear you. It's gonna be an easy flight, nice
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Speaker 1: flight home, isn't it. Yeah, Yes, Atlanta is up next.
16:44
Speaker 1: The Falcons are three and three after a fourteen point
16:48
Speaker 1: win over San Francisco. Cincinnati is a very early six
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Speaker 1: Lou Anarrumo says, all the time, don't ask me about yards,
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Speaker 1: ask me about points. The Bengals defense bent but didn't break,
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Speaker 1: and that helped the offense come back and win the game.
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Speaker 1: It was the ultimate of it. You know, on four
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Speaker 1: possessions in the red zone, you're talking about an offense
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Speaker 1: that have converted eighty percent of the time touchdowns going
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Speaker 1: into the game, second best in the league. And to
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Speaker 1: hold them four times with just a field goal, that
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Speaker 1: was the game. As it turned out, that was the
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Speaker 1: probably most significant single thing that you could point to
17:42
Speaker 1: and say that kind of swung the football game In retrospect?
17:46
Speaker 1: Was there anything more predictable than Jamaar Chase would come
17:49
Speaker 1: back to this place and do something spectacular? He and Borrow,
17:52
Speaker 1: I mean it's like New Orleans, Louisiana Special Stage. They
17:57
Speaker 1: step up big. I mean they're bigger than big, those
18:00
Speaker 1: two are. It's just it's just remarkable. And I think
18:03
Speaker 1: it started with Joe Warren Jamar's jersey. You know, it's
18:05
Speaker 1: kind of the Calmer started. It was kind of like
18:08
Speaker 1: a precursor of things to come, and U and the
18:10
Speaker 1: two of them just hooked up again. I mean, Borrows
18:14
Speaker 1: just thinks he sees and the way he sees him
18:18
Speaker 1: and Jamar's just a grown man. There's no two ways
18:20
Speaker 1: about that. They had balanced today. I mean, obviously in
18:24
Speaker 1: terms of passing and running. It was heavily tilted toward passing,
18:28
Speaker 1: but balanced in the sense that Chase, Higgins and Boyd
18:32
Speaker 1: were all pretty similar in terms of targets in production. Yeah,
18:36
Speaker 1: for the two of them to have six catches, you know,
18:39
Speaker 1: meaning Boyd and Higgins and then Chase having seven, that's
18:43
Speaker 1: a good sign. Plus, I mean, the game itself is
18:48
Speaker 1: it unfolded. The Bengals felt like they couldn't run the
18:52
Speaker 1: ball that much. They ranted efficiently. They only ran it
18:55
Speaker 1: fifteen times, but average almost six yards to carry. So
18:58
Speaker 1: it wasn't like they weren't, you know, getting good things
19:00
Speaker 1: out of the running game, which I think is another
19:02
Speaker 1: good sign. A couple of weeks in a row, I
19:04
Speaker 1: think there are you know, holes for Joe Mixon to
19:06
Speaker 1: take advantage of and get past the line of scrimmage
19:08
Speaker 1: with some authority. So I think that's all trending in
19:11
Speaker 1: a in a good direction as well. But you're right,
19:14
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like when the Big Three is on,
19:19
Speaker 1: what do you do? How do you do it? I mean,
19:21
Speaker 1: it's just like the Saints with all the running backs.
19:23
Speaker 1: There were times out there they had three legitimate running backs.
19:26
Speaker 1: It's like you mentioned it. During the games, it's like
19:28
Speaker 1: watching a college football running game. Who do you? How
19:31
Speaker 1: do you what do you defend? How do you defend it?
19:33
Speaker 1: When you have three receivers, the talent level that these
19:36
Speaker 1: guys have, how do you defend it? What do you do?
19:38
Speaker 1: Particularly when you don't see him that often? The Saints
19:41
Speaker 1: just don't see it that often when the Bengals don't
19:43
Speaker 1: see the type of offense the Saints draw out there
19:46
Speaker 1: with the Swiss Army knife hill either. I'm sure you've
19:49
Speaker 1: played in games like this where you're swimming uphill all day,
19:53
Speaker 1: you're behind. Every time you get closer, the other team
19:55
Speaker 1: scores again, and then you manage to pull it out
19:58
Speaker 1: in the end. What kind of emotional lifty again from
20:01
Speaker 1: a game like that. Yeah, it's a big lift, you know.
20:03
Speaker 1: It's like, offensively, took care of the ball, didn't turn
20:06
Speaker 1: it over. Defensively, didn't get any takeaways. But the turnover
20:09
Speaker 1: occurs on special team short field. You're down seven, and
20:12
Speaker 1: then it's like to get over the hump. It takes
20:15
Speaker 1: a while, you know, get over get it and you
20:16
Speaker 1: think you're getting over the they score again, you know,
20:18
Speaker 1: so it's uh. And like we were talking about during
20:21
Speaker 1: the course of the game, the one thing about the
20:24
Speaker 1: field goal drives where they were taking seven and a
20:26
Speaker 1: half minutes, so every one of them was It wasn't like,
20:28
Speaker 1: you know, just like a four play drive and stead
20:31
Speaker 1: over a field goal. They were going double digit plays
20:34
Speaker 1: and the drives and melting the clock. So you know
20:36
Speaker 1: that that had to be a little bit disconcerting as
20:38
Speaker 1: well as you're trying to make a comeback. But when
20:41
Speaker 1: you do and you win a game like this, man,
20:43
Speaker 1: there's some there's some carry over. I mean it is
20:46
Speaker 1: bouncing your step. You know, practice is easier next week.
20:49
Speaker 1: Now you've got to go string a few together, don't
20:52
Speaker 1: don't look ahead, but maybe three more one of oz
20:54
Speaker 1: and get into the bye week with a six and
20:56
Speaker 1: three record. Then you think, no, no, you know, we
20:59
Speaker 1: have eight games left, are tough, but we got six wins.
21:02
Speaker 1: We should be able to at least split going down
21:03
Speaker 1: the stretch, So that would be a goal. I think
21:06
Speaker 1: I think we all felt the offense was getting closer,
21:09
Speaker 1: and now they put thirty points out on the board.
21:11
Speaker 1: I think it's the first time in about ten games
21:13
Speaker 1: going back to last year. That's the proof we're looking
21:16
Speaker 1: for that this offense is starting to display the kind
21:19
Speaker 1: of production they're capable of coming up with. Yeah, I agree,
21:23
Speaker 1: you know, and again because when they got in the
21:25
Speaker 1: red zone, they scored seven. You know, they didn't settle
21:28
Speaker 1: for three. When you look at it, the Saints scored
21:32
Speaker 1: twenty six points with four red zone field goals, you know,
21:35
Speaker 1: I mean, so there was some some productivity there to
21:38
Speaker 1: a point, and then they just couldn't couldn't finish, couldn't finalize.
21:41
Speaker 1: I mean, you leave four points on the field in
21:44
Speaker 1: four possessions like that, you leave sixteen points on the field.
21:47
Speaker 1: That's that's a that's a tough, tough dynamic. Yet they
21:50
Speaker 1: still twenty six points for them. Was there high on
21:52
Speaker 1: the season you know as well? So it was. It
21:55
Speaker 1: was a very entertaining, interesting football game, just like every
21:58
Speaker 1: game is in the National Football League. This league is sick.
22:02
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care who you are. As the
22:04
Speaker 1: old saying goes, anybody can beat anybody, and it is true.
22:08
Speaker 1: There was another example of it in league wide today.
22:12
Speaker 1: Can't take anything for granted. As soon as you start
22:14
Speaker 1: to get full of yourself, you get knocking your keyston
22:16
Speaker 1: the candle get empty quick man. Sick in a good way. Yeah,
22:20
Speaker 1: sick in a good exactly, just like just riveting. You
22:23
Speaker 1: know you just oh man, what's gonna happen? I never
22:26
Speaker 1: expected that to happen. Expect the unexpected. That's in the NFL.
22:30
Speaker 1: Elsewhere in the AFC North on Sunday, the Ravens blew
22:33
Speaker 1: a double digit lead for the third time this year.
22:37
Speaker 1: They led the Giants twenty to ten in the fourth quarter,
22:39
Speaker 1: but lost the game twenty four to twenty. The Browns
22:43
Speaker 1: were blown out at home by the Patriots thirty eight
22:45
Speaker 1: to fifteen, and the Steelers upset Tom Brady and the
22:49
Speaker 1: Bucks twenty to eighteen. As a result, the Bengals and
22:53
Speaker 1: Ravens are tied for first at three and three. The
22:56
Speaker 1: Browns and Steelers are a game back at two and four.
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Speaker 1: time for this week's Fun Facts interview, where we get
23:23
Speaker 1: to know the person under the pads. Time for some
23:27
Speaker 1: fun facts. The Bengals offensive lineman Ted carras from Indianapolis,
23:31
Speaker 1: the so called racing capital of the world. Did you
23:34
Speaker 1: go to the track? Did you go to the Indy
23:36
Speaker 1: five hundred or the Brickyard four hundred when you're young?
23:38
Speaker 1: I did. I grew up going. I think the last
23:40
Speaker 1: time I went was sophomore year of college. I kind
23:43
Speaker 1: of banned myself after that. It's a pretty wild event.
23:45
Speaker 1: So you know, next time I go will probably going
23:47
Speaker 1: into the into the box. The Koke Lauden snake pit,
23:51
Speaker 1: you know, aren't my style anymore. You banned yourself. I
23:54
Speaker 1: like that. The Kennedy's art of politics as the caresses
23:59
Speaker 1: are to football. Your family legacy in this sport is crazy.
24:04
Speaker 1: Your dad has an NFL Championship ring, your grandfather won
24:07
Speaker 1: an NFL Championship ring. You've got a couple. Your great
24:10
Speaker 1: uncle Alex is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
24:13
Speaker 1: What are some of your earliest memories of being introduced
24:16
Speaker 1: to football? Well, that's high praise to Kennedy's I think
24:19
Speaker 1: we have less scandals. We're not scandal free, but we
24:23
Speaker 1: had well, but earliest memories in football. You know, my
24:26
Speaker 1: father was a coach his whole career, so he's still coaching.
24:31
Speaker 1: So I think going on going to games Saturday, Saturday
24:34
Speaker 1: afternoon game, small college football in the Midwest, you know,
24:37
Speaker 1: those are some of my fondest memories. Traveling on the
24:39
Speaker 1: bus with the teams. I think the longest bus ride
24:42
Speaker 1: I went on was to Millsaps in Mississippi, so a
24:47
Speaker 1: lot of fun was that. I think it was like
24:50
Speaker 1: twelve hours. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Though
24:52
Speaker 1: we got to win. So, you know, grew up all
24:55
Speaker 1: around small college football, you know, with you know, a
24:59
Speaker 1: lot of guys that I'm obviously my dad playing the
25:01
Speaker 1: NFL briefly, but my grandfather told a lot of stories.
25:04
Speaker 1: So it's been you know, my whole life's been been football,
25:07
Speaker 1: and it's I'm very grateful to be twenty nine and
25:09
Speaker 1: still still playing the game. So all little kids in
25:12
Speaker 1: elementary school get the what do you want to be
25:14
Speaker 1: when you grow up? Question? Was it always pro football
25:17
Speaker 1: player for you? Yes? You know I was never and
25:21
Speaker 1: I really even playing other sports, I didn't have the
25:24
Speaker 1: same interest level. I wish now looking back, I wish
25:28
Speaker 1: I probably would have played more sports going up, but
25:30
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't like them really. I just wanted
25:32
Speaker 1: to play football and be around the game. So um yeah,
25:36
Speaker 1: I was always this was my goal. I think my
25:38
Speaker 1: goal mostly was to play college football, to play in
25:41
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, and then always you know, had the
25:46
Speaker 1: NFL in the back of my mind. But the first
25:48
Speaker 1: goal was to get a full scholarship to play football.
25:50
Speaker 1: That's what I thought about most of my childhood. Were
25:53
Speaker 1: visiting the Ted karras. So your great uncle Alex, as
25:56
Speaker 1: I mentioned, is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame,
25:58
Speaker 1: but he's probably as well. Remember for his acting career,
26:01
Speaker 1: he famously punched a horse as the character Mongo in
26:05
Speaker 1: Blazing Saddles. He was Emmanuel Lewis's godfather and the hit
26:08
Speaker 1: TV show Webster for six years. Did you get to
26:11
Speaker 1: know him and have you seen much of his work?
26:15
Speaker 1: I've seen most of his work. There's also several books
26:18
Speaker 1: about his life that he wrote. Or George Plimpton, his
26:21
Speaker 1: lifelong friend, good author. Paper Lion was a movie in
26:24
Speaker 1: a book. Pretty cool actually, they and I think it
26:26
Speaker 1: was the sixty three season now sixty four season. He
26:31
Speaker 1: got them to He got the Lions to let his
26:33
Speaker 1: friend be the four string quarterback for the whole year
26:36
Speaker 1: and then write about it. So that's probably my favorite
26:38
Speaker 1: of his work. You know, I didn't know him that well.
26:42
Speaker 1: He lived in Malibu and Hollywood Hills. So we visited
26:46
Speaker 1: UCLA when I was seventeen and got to meet him
26:49
Speaker 1: and hang out with him for a day. So that
26:50
Speaker 1: was pretty special. Does Frank Pollack call you Mango? No, Frank,
26:54
Speaker 1: I have been called mongo before, but you know that's
26:59
Speaker 1: reserved for Steve McMichael. That was his nickname back in
27:02
Speaker 1: eighty five Bears. So you know, I've had more so
27:05
Speaker 1: than being a nickname. There's been like trick plays or
27:07
Speaker 1: fake plays called Mongo. If I'm involved at all as
27:10
Speaker 1: as a kid and all the way up to now.
27:14
Speaker 1: So if I see a trick play that you're involved in,
27:16
Speaker 1: I'm going to assume that the Bengals call it Mango.
27:19
Speaker 1: Or visiting or visiting or visiting with Ted Carris. You
27:22
Speaker 1: mentioned the desire to play in the Big Ten, and
27:24
Speaker 1: you did at Illinois. What did you enjoy most about
27:27
Speaker 1: your college experience. I had some amazing friends, I thought, Um,
27:31
Speaker 1: I found college to be fascinating. I really didn't turn
27:34
Speaker 1: it on probably until like my sophomore year. Academically I
27:37
Speaker 1: woke up and really took advantage of, um, you know,
27:40
Speaker 1: the opportunity of a free education at such a such
27:43
Speaker 1: a great school. End up finishing with two degrees from there.
27:46
Speaker 1: But you know, I wish we would have been better.
27:48
Speaker 1: We didn't have the greatest run there. At On the
27:50
Speaker 1: other playing great this year though exciting to see um,
27:54
Speaker 1: but have lifelong friends and you know, I met my wife,
27:58
Speaker 1: so you know, overall is a and then made to
28:00
Speaker 1: the NFL, so it was a net positive Illinois. But
28:03
Speaker 1: football wise, what those are probably my least fond memories.
28:06
Speaker 1: So football, there's the University of Illinois. After five years there,
28:10
Speaker 1: you're drafted by the Patriots in the sixth round in
28:12
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Describe your draft experience. Well, I, uh, you know,
28:17
Speaker 1: I didn't know whether I was gonna be drafted or not.
28:19
Speaker 1: My agent said the best chance was Patriots in the
28:22
Speaker 1: sixth round, which obviously it was a good, good call
28:26
Speaker 1: by him, but you know, so the interesting thing about
28:30
Speaker 1: that year was that was the deflate Gate scandal and
28:32
Speaker 1: they took away the first round draft pick of the
28:34
Speaker 1: Patriots and gave him three extra six rounders and gave
28:37
Speaker 1: him an extra fourth, an extra sixth round, and I
28:39
Speaker 1: was the last of those six round picks. It was
28:41
Speaker 1: the last pick of the sixth round. It was amazing.
28:44
Speaker 1: I you know, I didn't know if I was going
28:46
Speaker 1: to a draft or not. Still through a huge party
28:47
Speaker 1: in my house. Everyone that was in my life up
28:50
Speaker 1: until that point was there. And you know, still very
28:54
Speaker 1: grateful to this day for that, that amazing opportunity. And
28:57
Speaker 1: of course Belichick's gonna be two opportunities to be on
28:59
Speaker 1: his team, so always be grateful to him for that.
29:02
Speaker 1: So you go to New England, win a Super Bowl
29:04
Speaker 1: or first year, go back to the Super Bowl year second,
29:07
Speaker 1: go again your third year and win again that third year.
29:11
Speaker 1: Did you realize how ridiculous that was? Yes? I did
29:15
Speaker 1: realize how because I was, and you know, it was
29:18
Speaker 1: so special to be part of such great teams. And
29:20
Speaker 1: I mean those teams were stacked from top to bottom,
29:23
Speaker 1: and to be a contributor at times on those teams
29:25
Speaker 1: was amazing. And I saved everything. I have everything saved
29:29
Speaker 1: from all the really from my entire career. You know,
29:32
Speaker 1: I have every program signed by the featured player, of
29:37
Speaker 1: a bunch of gear every Super Bowl. I kept my
29:40
Speaker 1: whole outfit. I'm I'm a football fan too, so I collect,
29:44
Speaker 1: you know, all this stuff, and I get kind of
29:46
Speaker 1: easy access to some of the good stuff. So saved
29:49
Speaker 1: it all. You know, still more to finish, though, I'd
29:52
Speaker 1: like to get back and get another one. I would
29:55
Speaker 1: like you to get back and get another one too.
29:57
Speaker 1: Hopefully soon you're gonna be asked about Bill Belichick for
29:59
Speaker 1: the rest your life. How do you describe him? I
30:02
Speaker 1: think he's, you know, the ultimate leader of an organization
30:07
Speaker 1: of you know, and I think that whatever field he
30:10
Speaker 1: would have ventured into, he would have been a leader
30:12
Speaker 1: and at the forefront of it. But you know, you know,
30:15
Speaker 1: I can't say enough about the things that he taught me,
30:17
Speaker 1: not only in football, but just how to lead men
30:20
Speaker 1: and carry yourself. And you know, a lot of the
30:24
Speaker 1: tenants that he, you know, has preached and still does.
30:27
Speaker 1: I'm sure today has preaching some of those, and I
30:30
Speaker 1: you know, I think about those a lot. So I
30:32
Speaker 1: owe a lot of credit to him. I owe a
30:34
Speaker 1: credit to my old line coach there, Dante Scarnekia I
30:37
Speaker 1: would not be the player I was without him or
30:39
Speaker 1: the person. So you know, it was a tremendous opportunity
30:43
Speaker 1: for me, and I I'm glad that I took advantage
30:46
Speaker 1: of it. I never want to squander any chances or opportunities.
30:49
Speaker 1: So that was a special one and led me to hear.
30:52
Speaker 1: Then there's Tom Brady your block form for four years.
30:56
Speaker 1: He's the goat of his many incredible qualities. What do
31:00
Speaker 1: you respect the most? His desire to win and his
31:04
Speaker 1: obsession with um, you know, winning and and putting his
31:08
Speaker 1: his uh teammates and positions to be successful. UM. I
31:13
Speaker 1: was always, you know, really grateful to him, just in
31:17
Speaker 1: the fact how he treated my family, how he treated me. Um.
31:20
Speaker 1: You know, he's a superstars, uh, you know, as big
31:23
Speaker 1: as it gets in this country, so in this world really,
31:26
Speaker 1: so you know, he's at the top of the world
31:28
Speaker 1: and still had time for the little guys on his team.
31:32
Speaker 1: So I have a lot of respect for him, UM,
31:35
Speaker 1: and you know, always be rooting for him except from
31:37
Speaker 1: wherehen we go down there and play them. This year
31:39
Speaker 1: we're chatting with Ted Carris. So you grew up in
31:42
Speaker 1: the Midwest, went to college in the Midwest, played in
31:44
Speaker 1: New England for four years and then you went to Miami.
31:47
Speaker 1: Big change of lifestyle down in South Beach in that area.
31:51
Speaker 1: What do you think of your time in Florida? Oh, well,
31:54
Speaker 1: time when Florida's not done, Dan, we lived down there.
31:56
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're we half and half it will be
31:59
Speaker 1: we'll be snow birds. It was very fortunate timing. Um
32:03
Speaker 1: for me, got a great opportunity to go and and
32:06
Speaker 1: and be a starter in Miami at a time. You know,
32:09
Speaker 1: it was just awesome. My wife and I bought a
32:11
Speaker 1: house and you know, we love it done there. We've
32:13
Speaker 1: amazing friends and and uh, you know, you know, hopefully
32:17
Speaker 1: we'll keep that forever. All right. A few wild card
32:21
Speaker 1: topics for Ted Carriss. You own a construction company. I
32:25
Speaker 1: do well. I I invest in the construction company. It's
32:29
Speaker 1: it is, it is ours. I'm a few layers removed
32:33
Speaker 1: as for just smart business sense. But um, yeah, So
32:38
Speaker 1: we build home single family homes in Indianapolish. We bought
32:42
Speaker 1: a lot of lots from the city over the past
32:45
Speaker 1: few years and just kind of filling them up and
32:47
Speaker 1: making the neighborhoods better. There's a lot of new construction
32:51
Speaker 1: in India. It's cool to be a part of it.
32:52
Speaker 1: I uh, you know, I've been fascinated with construction and
32:55
Speaker 1: it's pretty decent payout. When you signed to the Bengals,
33:00
Speaker 1: the radio voice of the Patriots told me he's obsessed
33:03
Speaker 1: with the Office. Are we talking like every episode multiple
33:07
Speaker 1: times type of obsession? Yeah? I think so. Over the years,
33:11
Speaker 1: I would I would put myself up against anyone in Office. Trivia,
33:17
Speaker 1: the left guard for the Chiefs and my roommate for
33:19
Speaker 1: four years in New England. He's also he's up there.
33:21
Speaker 1: He would be probably the only one I think it
33:23
Speaker 1: could challenge me. Joe too. Favorite episode Dinner Party. So
33:30
Speaker 1: is that Michael and Jan inviting the others over to
33:33
Speaker 1: their house for the most uncomfortable conversation of all time. Yeah,
33:36
Speaker 1: it's awesome and yeah, and then it's got that song
33:39
Speaker 1: in it too that her assistant wrote. So I just
33:41
Speaker 1: think it's a classic episode and it's cool that they
33:45
Speaker 1: switched up the setting. That is a very good episode.
33:48
Speaker 1: In addition to being a brute force NFL offensive lineman,
33:53
Speaker 1: you are a cat guy? Is that correct? I do?
33:56
Speaker 1: I have two cats, Nigel and Nugget. I will have dogs.
34:00
Speaker 1: When I'm done playing, I can't, you know, in good
34:04
Speaker 1: conscience take on a dog because I wouldn't be around
34:07
Speaker 1: enough to give it the carrot it deserves. So my
34:10
Speaker 1: cats are my companions. They're amazing. My wife and I
34:13
Speaker 1: love them so much, and they're they're very vocal. Cats
34:16
Speaker 1: are really cool. You know, we kind of keep in private,
34:18
Speaker 1: but they're they'd be pretty special if we if we
34:21
Speaker 1: made like an Instagram formum, I'm sure they'd be pretty popular,
34:24
Speaker 1: all right, fans are clamoring more pictures on Instagram. I
34:28
Speaker 1: read an article where you discussed your travel adventures. Is
34:32
Speaker 1: that a passion um? I think it's just again taking
34:36
Speaker 1: advantage of opportunities, Like you know, after my rookie year,
34:41
Speaker 1: you know, we stayed probably seventy nights in a hotel
34:43
Speaker 1: that year, and I set up a Marriott Points rewards
34:46
Speaker 1: system and got to go to Europe with my friends
34:49
Speaker 1: for two weeks for under a thousand dollars. So you know,
34:53
Speaker 1: just you know, you get five months off basically, and
34:59
Speaker 1: you know, I either want I don't want to waste
35:01
Speaker 1: that time ever, though, so there's usually a trip involved.
35:04
Speaker 1: Either I'm in school or there's some kind of skill
35:07
Speaker 1: building that I'm doing because I'm not just going to
35:09
Speaker 1: sit around for five months. Obviously I'm working out and
35:11
Speaker 1: continuing my professional obligation as an athlete, but I'm not
35:14
Speaker 1: just gonna sit on my hands for five months, work
35:17
Speaker 1: out in the morning and watch TV all day. I
35:18
Speaker 1: want to be doing something actively so that when I'm done,
35:21
Speaker 1: you know, eventually it comes for everyone here, when your
35:25
Speaker 1: time is up, it's up, and it's you know, kind
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Speaker 1: of an unceremonious end for a lot of guys. So
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Speaker 1: I want to be in the best position possible with
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Speaker 1: skills degrees to be able to you know, continue being
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Speaker 1: at the top of whatever field I want to go into.
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Speaker 1: Final question, it's kind of deep. If you could meet
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Speaker 1: anybody in history, who would that person be, Well, I'd
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Speaker 1: pick two. I think that first I would like to
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Speaker 1: meet Peter Disciple. Peter because I just would like the
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Speaker 1: early formation of the Church is fascinating and you know,
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Speaker 1: you want to say, Jesus if you're really going into that,
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Speaker 1: but that hopefully we'll come later on. Peter would be
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Speaker 1: interesting just for the Roman aspect and how they navigated
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Speaker 1: it a whole empire and you know, spread a religion.
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Speaker 1: I think that's pretty fascinating. And then Winston Churchill too.
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Speaker 1: You know, he was kind of a you know, a liberal,
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Speaker 1: upstart young guy in a pretty entrenched monarchical government for
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Speaker 1: a long time and you know, bounce back from he
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Speaker 1: suffered some political humiliations in early life and then ended
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Speaker 1: up being a hero that's celebrated to this day. So
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Speaker 1: I'd like any I heard he's pretty I mean, I've
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Speaker 1: read a few books on him. He's really quirky and
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Speaker 1: and interesting. So high energy guy. Though, I'd like to
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Speaker 1: see how you know, maybe just tail him along like
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Speaker 1: in nineteen forty four would be kind of cool. I'll say,
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Speaker 1: that's a very interesting duo. It'll be a fascinating dinner
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Speaker 1: for three. Appreciate your time. It's great to have you
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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati. Best of luck the rest of the year.
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