Latest / Clydesdale Media Podcast / Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Who is Going to Win Rogue
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- 0:29What is going on, everybody?
- 0:31Welcome to Sunday, Sunday,
- 0:33Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
- 0:35I am on an iPad,
- 0:36so I can't use any of the special
- 0:39effects, any of the sounds.
- 0:42Probably won't be able to share many
- 0:44screens, but here we are.
- 0:47What about the Factor Fiction?
- 0:48Can you bring those up or not even?
- 0:49Yeah, yeah, I'll be able to do that.
- 0:51Yeah, they're within StreamYard,
- 0:52so I'm okay there.
- 0:53Got it.
- 0:56So, what's going on?
- 1:00Not much.
- 1:03I did a lot of cleaning this weekend
- 1:04around the condo and some corrections and
- 1:08report card comments are coming up next
- 1:10week.
- 1:11So busy time for being a teacher.
- 1:16Yeah.
- 1:18Here we go.
- 1:19Studio internet still on my...
- 1:21It's not my internet.
- 1:22It is actually my laptop.
- 1:24I had it with a guy all weekend.
- 1:27Runs fine.
- 1:27It might be that it... I don't know.
- 1:30I have no idea at this point.
- 1:32It was working fine for me all afternoon
- 1:35when I got it back.
- 1:37I brought it down here.
- 1:38And when I hook it up to the
- 1:40RODECaster, it seems to go...
- 1:44So I don't know if it's something with
- 1:45the RODECaster or what.
- 1:48But...
- 1:49Yep, and then, yeah,
- 1:51sorry about the Bears.
- 1:52Yeah, it was a bad day.
- 1:55Bad day, but we're all right.
- 1:58I didn't expect to win that game.
- 2:03with my family being a Steelers fan,
- 2:06all of them,
- 2:08I know that the Ravens find ways somehow
- 2:11when their back's against the wall to do
- 2:13whatever.
- 2:14And I just,
- 2:15I knew this weekend was going to be
- 2:16that for the Bears.
- 2:18So I didn't go in with the anticipation
- 2:20of a big win.
- 2:23So, Blue Jays are in the World Series.
- 2:28Yes, they are.
- 2:28They've been keeping me up late at night
- 2:31all week.
- 2:32How is,
- 2:33what is the town of Toronto like or
- 2:35the city of Toronto?
- 2:36It's crazy.
- 2:37Like it's yeah.
- 2:38Everyone's talking about it.
- 2:40Like it's just,
- 2:41it's a huge thing right now here.
- 2:43Um, yeah,
- 2:44it's been like over thirty years,
- 2:46I think thirty two years since they've
- 2:48been in the World Series.
- 2:50I grew up an Expos fan and uh,
- 2:55You really haven't watched much baseball
- 2:57in the last, like,
- 2:59you know, a while,
- 3:00but then once Guerrero Jr.
- 3:03signed with Toronto,
- 3:05like I was a fan of like his
- 3:07dad with the Expos.
- 3:08So like at that point I started following
- 3:12his career and then just to see how
- 3:13good he was basically right away.
- 3:16Um,
- 3:17and I just jumped the bandwagon and became
- 3:19a Toronto Blue Jays fan like a few
- 3:21years ago.
- 3:22So I'm not a diehard as,
- 3:24as much as some people that grew up
- 3:26loving them in Toronto,
- 3:26but it has been very exciting to, uh,
- 3:31to have them go on this run.
- 3:32They're fun to watch.
- 3:34They have a deep roster.
- 3:37If their bats get hot,
- 3:40they're going to make some noise.
- 3:43LA has some really good pitching.
- 3:45They have the best pitching crew in the
- 3:49majors.
- 3:51Starting pitching.
- 3:52If you get to their bullpen,
- 3:55you have a really good shot.
- 3:57Blue Jays won game one.
- 3:58Dodgers won game two.
- 4:00So we're all even five to go.
- 4:03They didn't even have to go to any
- 4:04bullpen last game because that pitcher did
- 4:06the whole game.
- 4:08Second one in a row.
- 4:10And those are unheard of these days with
- 4:11all the specialists.
- 4:15So, um,
- 4:16I had an interesting thing happened to me
- 4:17this weekend.
- 4:19I've,
- 4:19I've said on the show a million times
- 4:21when I was growing up,
- 4:21my dream was to be a sportscaster.
- 4:23Right.
- 4:24And, um,
- 4:27And I looked up to like the Bob
- 4:29Costases and the Joe Bucks and the Harry
- 4:34Carys and the Howard Cosells.
- 4:37And I'm scrolling through Instagram and
- 4:40all of a sudden I see an ad
- 4:42and my voice,
- 4:44my voice is on the ad.
- 4:47And I was like, what is going on?
- 4:50And it gave me like goosebumps.
- 4:53And so Vindicate is selling a new shirt
- 4:57for Colton Mertens.
- 5:00It says, don't be a dork.
- 5:02And if people don't know,
- 5:03Colton always calls his competitors dorks.
- 5:07And so at the very beginning of the
- 5:09ad,
- 5:09it's my interview with Colton at the
- 5:12Pasadena semifinals when I got to him on
- 5:17the floor and I said,
- 5:20when are people going to start believing?
- 5:23And that's what they used for the ad.
- 5:25That's awesome.
- 5:26That's awesome.
- 5:29and i it just i know it's small
- 5:32and that we're niche and it's a little
- 5:33bitty thing but you know when you grow
- 5:36up and that's what you want to be
- 5:37someday and all of a sudden an interview
- 5:40you did three years ago is being used
- 5:42in an ad it was it was really
- 5:47cool i think the line was when are
- 5:49people going to stop doubting and then he
- 5:52he responded to that and they used both
- 5:54his and my his my question his response
- 5:58um for the ad and it's out on
- 6:00instagram if you want to see it it's
- 6:02really um it's right at the beginning um
- 6:05it's what kicks it off but i mean
- 6:07i'm playing it for my wife i'm playing
- 6:09it for my mom so it was really
- 6:12really cool that's awesome check that out
- 6:17uh judy reed uh that's sick uh terry
- 6:21very cool
- 6:23Kenneth DeLapp, that's cool as hell.
- 6:25Megan says, awesome.
- 6:27Thank you all.
- 6:29It just was a cool little treat when
- 6:32you don't expect it.
- 6:34So that was cool.
- 6:36Have you shared it on Instagram?
- 6:38I did.
- 6:39I put it on my story.
- 6:40Okay.
- 6:42But it's probably already expired because
- 6:43I think it's been twenty-four hours.
- 6:45Okay.
- 6:47So, yeah.
- 6:50So, big news this week.
- 6:53CrossFit Games, twenty twenty six,
- 6:57San Jose, California.
- 7:00Yep.
- 7:01Thoughts?
- 7:02I mean, it's what we expected, right?
- 7:06I don't know if I expected San Jose.
- 7:08Yeah, I did.
- 7:10Me and Lexa talked about it.
- 7:11And that's exactly where we thought it was
- 7:12going to be.
- 7:13With San Jose.
- 7:15Because of Dave's post walking around or
- 7:18what?
- 7:19Yeah.
- 7:19So like once, once it was a,
- 7:21we're like,
- 7:21there's no way it's going to be there.
- 7:22And then we're like,
- 7:23it should be like San Jose,
- 7:24like still like in like the NorCal area,
- 7:26but we had just said that city and
- 7:30yeah, it was like a,
- 7:33what our predicted guess was.
- 7:34So one thing I didn't know, like when,
- 7:36when he took his picture at the Valkyrie
- 7:38game,
- 7:39they normally play in where the golden
- 7:42state warriors play the chase center but
- 7:44it wasn't but it was booked one time
- 7:47and so they played where the sharks played
- 7:49the sap center because the chase center
- 7:52was booked because they didn't think
- 7:54they'd make the playoffs and so he might
- 7:57was he at the sap center when he
- 7:59took the picture i don't remember it it
- 8:02looked it looked like the chase center
- 8:05because i went to the chase center to
- 8:06watch um like the valkyries play but
- 8:10It was more,
- 8:11I think I was just more looking at
- 8:12their jumbotron,
- 8:13like intro and it looked familiar from
- 8:16when I was there,
- 8:17but it could have been the other arena.
- 8:19Um, yeah, I like San Jose.
- 8:24I think it's a, it's a nice place.
- 8:26Easy to get to.
- 8:27There's a lot of airports around it.
- 8:29Like you have like options to go to
- 8:33San Francisco airport, San Jose airport,
- 8:35Oakland airport.
- 8:38they're all like basically within i want
- 8:40to say like an hour of each other
- 8:42ish um like i normally fly into san
- 8:46francisco but it's not too too far away
- 8:48from from san jose is san jose an
- 8:50international airport yes so this is what
- 8:56i've heard from other people because i've
- 8:58never been there san jose airport is three
- 9:01miles from the sap center
- 9:05San Francisco is about forty five minutes
- 9:09away,
- 9:09but there is a train that goes from
- 9:12the airport directly to where the SAP
- 9:14Center is.
- 9:16Oh, that's great.
- 9:17And it's and so I'm guessing it's faster
- 9:19by train than by car.
- 9:22But that's just me guessing.
- 9:24So those are two valid options.
- 9:26And there's an Oakland airport as well.
- 9:29So there are actually three airport
- 9:31options to fly into to find the best
- 9:33price.
- 9:35Have you looked at flights yet?
- 9:38I have not.
- 9:39I don't even know if you can look
- 9:41at flights a year out.
- 9:42Yeah.
- 9:42Well, I don't know.
- 9:44I bet you probably can.
- 9:46Yeah, you can.
- 9:49I did book a hotel room.
- 9:51I saw that,
- 9:51and you said that it was even more
- 9:53reasonable than Albany, so that's great.
- 9:56And how close are you from the venue?
- 9:59It's San Jose Airport,
- 10:01so less than three miles.
- 10:03Cool.
- 10:06So even if I have to Uber,
- 10:07like that's a quick Uber.
- 10:09Yeah.
- 10:09Right.
- 10:10Yeah.
- 10:16So that's good.
- 10:17I mean,
- 10:19that's better to find a little bit more
- 10:21reasonable price wise area of California
- 10:27because we know some of the other areas
- 10:30can be just so expensive,
- 10:32cost prohibitive.
- 10:33I've also heard it's a really nice place
- 10:35to vacation.
- 10:36So if you want to add on a
- 10:38couple days, Napa is like right there.
- 10:42You have all of the big like Silicon
- 10:46Valley stuff.
- 10:47So yeah, hopefully it's for everything.
- 10:57And they announced the dates too with it,
- 10:59which was nice.
- 11:02Cause I thought just the location with
- 11:03like the whole dates, location,
- 11:05everything.
- 11:06So yeah.
- 11:07Looking forward to more information that
- 11:08they're going to be releasing in the next
- 11:11podcast or two that Dave was talking
- 11:13about.
- 11:14What do you, I mean,
- 11:15do you think it's going to be like
- 11:17a day before at the ranch or what
- 11:19do you think is the.
- 11:21I feel like they have to go to
- 11:22the ranch like for the twentieth
- 11:23anniversary or anniversary.
- 11:25Like it only makes sense to go back.
- 11:28Like the group went back in twenty twenty,
- 11:31but it was such an intimate group of
- 11:33five and five during covid.
- 11:36They flew them in the one time.
- 11:38When was that?
- 11:40Twenty five.
- 11:42I think they will.
- 11:52Papa Frank, that's expensive there too.
- 11:56But like I said, I got my hotel.
- 11:59It was a nine rating on booking.com.
- 12:03And Jamie and I have stayed in hotels
- 12:05that are like a five point eight.
- 12:07So to get a nine for cheaper than
- 12:11I got my hotel in Albany.
- 12:14That's I was pretty stoked.
- 12:16Yeah.
- 12:20Um,
- 12:20CrossFit says short bus drive away from
- 12:23the ranch.
- 12:26Um, yeah, I,
- 12:28I've heard that it's like a good forty
- 12:29five minutes to an hour to the ranch
- 12:32from there.
- 12:32But I mean,
- 12:33you could drive a bus out.
- 12:35I mean,
- 12:35we did it with Rogue Invitational going to
- 12:38the ranch for the run event.
- 12:40I feel like they would totally do a
- 12:41forty five minute hour drive to go to
- 12:44the ranch,
- 12:44like totally worth it for multiple events
- 12:47or even if it's just one event there,
- 12:49the hopper.
- 12:52Um, yeah.
- 12:54Uh, yeah.
- 12:56Uh, questions.
- 12:57My right there.
- 12:58Google is saying the drive right now from
- 12:59San Jose to Napa is an hour and
- 13:01thirty.
- 13:02The Bay Area is huge.
- 13:03Yeah.
- 13:03But if I'm in Ohio,
- 13:05that's way closer than I'll ever be to
- 13:07Napa again.
- 13:12That's true.
- 13:13So it is right there for me.
- 13:19CrossFit says you could do it on a
- 13:21day the venue is not scheduled.
- 13:28Could do what?
- 13:29A day at the ranch?
- 13:30Yeah.
- 13:31I think so.
- 13:31Yeah.
- 13:34Yeah,
- 13:34because I think they only booked it the
- 13:35Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I believe,
- 13:36for the venue.
- 13:39Yeah,
- 13:39those are the dates they announced for the
- 13:42games.
- 13:43But they have added days on in the
- 13:46past that weren't a part of the original
- 13:48announcement.
- 13:50And usually it's an off-site event.
- 13:53Yeah, open to the public.
- 14:01Megan says, if I leave Iowa for that,
- 14:03I might as well make a vacation out
- 14:04of it too.
- 14:07I've only been to California one time in
- 14:08my life.
- 14:12I might get there a couple more times
- 14:13in my life,
- 14:14but it's not going to be so frequent
- 14:15that I shouldn't take advantage of
- 14:17opportunities.
- 14:25Multiple nearby actual real airports are
- 14:28nice for basically every athlete traveling
- 14:30in.
- 14:32Yeah,
- 14:33having options to every airport from
- 14:35around the world is pretty cool and way
- 14:39better than we had in Albany or Madison.
- 14:51Offsite we'll be swimming to Alcatraz and
- 14:53back.
- 14:55I think Dave put a nix on that.
- 14:57Yeah.
- 15:00Do you remember the Ironman they used to
- 15:01do back in the,
- 15:03it's probably eighties now.
- 15:05And the first part of it was the
- 15:06three mile swim from Alcatraz to the
- 15:08mainland.
- 15:09Yeah.
- 15:15And they used to always say it was
- 15:16shark infested waters and, and, you know,
- 15:20so many people tried to escape from there.
- 15:21And,
- 15:22and so it made the legend of the
- 15:24Ironman like this really daunting thing.
- 15:27It's so weird where we've come to,
- 15:29to this point,
- 15:30all these people wanted to swim from
- 15:32Alcatraz to San Francisco to start an
- 15:34Ironman.
- 15:36And now we're worried about swimming and
- 15:37it might be too dangerous.
- 15:40So it's, that's interesting.
- 15:48What are the dates?
- 15:49Is it moved up like a week or
- 15:51two?
- 15:52It's the end of July.
- 15:53Yeah.
- 15:55I have, like,
- 15:55twenty-fifth in my head right now.
- 15:57Yeah, I think that's it.
- 15:59Like, twenty-fourth, twenty-fifth,
- 16:00twenty-sixth?
- 16:00Yeah, something like that.
- 16:03Whatever the Friday, Saturday,
- 16:05Sunday is around those dates.
- 16:12Is it hot out there at that time
- 16:13of year?
- 16:15Well, like, the San Francisco,
- 16:17the Bay Area, there is night, like,
- 16:19it's normally cooler,
- 16:23but
- 16:25I don't remember San Jose.
- 16:26I think it's still hot.
- 16:27Like, it's California.
- 16:28Right.
- 16:30But you will get some breeze, right,
- 16:32coming off the ocean.
- 16:34I'd have to ask Lex.
- 16:35Lex used to live there for a little
- 16:36bit.
- 16:39She'd know the weather better than me.
- 16:44Kenneth DeLapp confirms it's set
- 16:46twenty-four, twenty-five, twenty-six.
- 16:51Yeah.
- 16:51Sorry guys.
- 16:52I'm down to one screen.
- 16:53So everything,
- 16:54all my notes I had on a second
- 16:56screen, I'm screwed.
- 17:00Yeah.
- 17:00So add AI says,
- 17:03so then only three days again,
- 17:05not four or five days,
- 17:06like years in the past.
- 17:06I mean,
- 17:07that's what we're speculating though,
- 17:08is that maybe the Dave's twist
- 17:12announcement is going to be the ranch on
- 17:15another day, but no, but,
- 17:16but no spectators.
- 17:18Right.
- 17:23everybody's talking about the Bay Area fog
- 17:26can get really cold even in the middle
- 17:27of summer.
- 17:30Yeah,
- 17:32I'm guessing I would not think it was
- 17:34hot.
- 17:34There you go.
- 17:34Lex would know San Jose is a lot
- 17:35hotter than Oakland, San Francisco.
- 17:37Yeah.
- 17:38Because those are those are like perfect
- 17:40summer temp temperature gets hot,
- 17:41but it's still like breezy.
- 17:45Yeah,
- 17:46I had to look it up on a
- 17:46map to see where San Jose was in
- 17:49comparison.
- 17:50And it's like a triangle.
- 17:52Across the top is Oakland and San
- 17:54Francisco,
- 17:55and at the bottom of the triangle is
- 17:56San Jose.
- 17:57And they're all on the bay in like
- 18:00a triangle.
- 18:06And we're going to get our age group
- 18:07announcement this week.
- 18:08Well, don't skip ahead.
- 18:10I know, Jamie,
- 18:10you don't read the rundown early.
- 18:12I read the rundown.
- 18:12I have the whole thing written out.
- 18:15All right.
- 18:15That's what people are commenting.
- 18:21Yeah.
- 18:22Cold is relative.
- 18:23Ed AI says cold is relative.
- 18:25It's forty two outside my house and it's
- 18:27fine.
- 18:28Yeah.
- 18:29My daughter just called.
- 18:30They're having forty mile an hour winds in
- 18:32Montana right now.
- 18:35She said you went to take the garbage
- 18:37out and it blew right out of her
- 18:38hands.
- 18:39Jeez.
- 18:41Yeah, it's forty five here.
- 18:42Not warm enough for me.
- 18:48So Uh lex says no ocean breeze not
- 18:58near it,
- 19:00okay So there's no such thing as a
- 19:03bay breeze Isn't that a drink yes It's
- 19:12like a
- 19:14A sea breeze is vodka and cranberry juice.
- 19:17And a bay breeze is like a variation
- 19:19of that, I believe.
- 19:20Yeah.
- 19:24I don't know if it's a different liquor
- 19:25or a different juice.
- 19:27Yeah.
- 19:30I would have known that back in my
- 19:31bartending days.
- 19:35So...
- 19:36right so i'm i'm excited about it i
- 19:39was really when i saw i could get
- 19:41a hotel pro it's for me it's all
- 19:43about the cost like is it going to
- 19:45be affordable and when the hotel was way
- 19:49cheaper than albany like i was stoked now
- 19:52it's just finding the plane ticket um
- 19:55that's reasonable to get there um andrew
- 19:59stenn believes that the bay breeze is
- 20:01great fruit juice and vodka
- 20:07so um yeah it's been chilly here but
- 20:14we had a nice day today even though
- 20:16it was in the sixties wow yeah barely
- 20:20like sixty two sixty three i don't think
- 20:23we got i don't think we got out
- 20:24of like fifty five but you could get
- 20:27like some yard work done and not be
- 20:29like dripping in sweat so
- 20:35Yeah,
- 20:36Larry said he got his hotel for almost
- 20:37half what he paid in Albany.
- 20:38Jeez, that's crazy.
- 20:40Yeah,
- 20:41I bet you it was about half of
- 20:42what I paid.
- 20:45I mean, it was expensive.
- 20:46I mean, I paid for mine last minute,
- 20:47but it was expensive.
- 20:51Yeah.
- 20:53For the amenities around... Now,
- 20:55my hotel was beautiful,
- 20:56and I would not complain one bit about
- 20:58the hotel,
- 20:59but there was nothing around it that was
- 21:02worth eating at or...
- 21:05anything like that there was no extra oh
- 21:13andrew was wrong now we here we go
- 21:16i was wrong vodka cranberry and pineapple
- 21:18is a bay breeze that sounds delicious i
- 21:21think i would like that sounds like like
- 21:25my college days there
- 21:31so funny.
- 21:31I would, when I,
- 21:33I love those kinds of drinks,
- 21:34but I would never admit it when I
- 21:35was like a college guy.
- 21:36Cause you'd get made fun of if you
- 21:39ordered a Bay breeze or a sea breeze.
- 21:41Um, so yeah,
- 21:44that's like the only thing I could drink.
- 21:47Cause like, I hate beer.
- 21:48I hate wine.
- 21:50And like,
- 21:50I'll just do like a fruity vodka mixed
- 21:52drink.
- 21:54Yeah.
- 21:57Uh,
- 21:59NAI wants the good vodka,
- 22:01not the cheap stuff.
- 22:02Yeah.
- 22:03Cheap vodka is awful.
- 22:10It is.
- 22:13Now, CrossFit's all negative tonight, man.
- 22:15What's going on?
- 22:17Your team lose today or something?
- 22:20There are tons of homeless in San Jose
- 22:22and very comfortable being homeless.
- 22:27There's homelessness in every big city.
- 22:28Yeah.
- 22:29Just bring extra sandwiches,
- 22:36hand them out.
- 22:40When I worked downtown Columbus,
- 22:41that's what I did.
- 22:44Because I never carried cash or anything.
- 22:45I would make extra peanut butter and jelly
- 22:47sandwiches and I would just hand them out
- 22:48as I walked to my work.
- 22:51That was it.
- 22:52Yeah.
- 22:54um all right so that's the games the
- 22:58next thing i wanted to talk about is
- 22:59this week um the crossfit came out with
- 23:01their new campaign forging elite fitness
- 23:04um off the backs of f the quick
- 23:07fix crossfit secure now it's um forging
- 23:11elite fitness did you guys get to see
- 23:14the ad
- 23:17I did not watch long enough of it.
- 23:19I don't know what I was doing.
- 23:20I scrolled past it.
- 23:21It was like a minute and ten.
- 23:24I think I watched like fifteen seconds.
- 23:26I don't know.
- 23:28I caught the beginning and then just kept
- 23:29scrolling.
- 23:30I had a busy week with going to
- 23:32Monday Night Football and getting back
- 23:34into...
- 23:37You're supposed to be resting by doctor's
- 23:39orders.
- 23:40I can't get you to watch a minute
- 23:41and ten second video.
- 23:44I watched it.
- 23:45I liked it.
- 23:45It was good.
- 23:51I did see that this was a possibility.
- 23:53I didn't know it was official.
- 23:55I did not see that it was official.
- 23:57I didn't either.
- 24:00Man,
- 24:01talk about going from the mountaintop to
- 24:02not.
- 24:05um so i i talked about it on
- 24:10on the lunch show i watched it right
- 24:12before i went on air i was really
- 24:14pumped up by it um i thought it
- 24:15was really well done i liked the narration
- 24:18and then andrew hiller was in the comments
- 24:21so we got into a discussion about what
- 24:23is it missing because he thought it was
- 24:26missing something and so we got into a
- 24:28discussion about that
- 24:30and i thought like honestly it pumped me
- 24:32up it it but i am i'm a
- 24:35believer in crossfit the methodology i'm a
- 24:37believer in what it is but the two
- 24:39things that i took away that weren't what
- 24:41would fall into a good reel are the
- 24:44beginning was like a glitchy thing that
- 24:46had nothing to do with the message and
- 24:49there were there was no action item at
- 24:51the end there was no like
- 24:53come join us by going to the the
- 24:57affiliate map and clicking on a CrossFit
- 24:59box near you.
- 25:01Or I think that's the piece that was
- 25:03missing the most.
- 25:05Like,
- 25:05how do we put take this cool video
- 25:08and push it toward the affiliates?
- 25:13Yeah.
- 25:13And help them grow.
- 25:15And I think that was the piece that
- 25:16was missing.
- 25:18And after talking it out and thinking
- 25:20about it, I was like, that's right,
- 25:22it is missing that piece.
- 25:26Because, yeah, you're all pumped up,
- 25:28but how do I, I'm willing,
- 25:31how do I get there?
- 25:34Yeah, I think that's a good point.
- 25:36So what do they need to do?
- 25:37Link the affiliate map in those videos?
- 25:40Yes.
- 25:42Yeah.
- 25:43Or add a five seconds,
- 25:45cut out a couple of the action shots
- 25:48and add a five second,
- 25:51go to crossfit.com and click on the
- 25:52affiliate map.
- 25:53Yeah.
- 25:55If you're willing, we're ready for you.
- 25:57Yeah.
- 26:02So,
- 26:03and then I heard another argument that,
- 26:05um, and it goes with what, uh,
- 26:09Clooney's is saying, uh,
- 26:14It seems like it's all marketing for
- 26:16current CrossFitters.
- 26:17I heard someone talk about that.
- 26:18That's how CrossFit grew initially by
- 26:21getting the base pumped up and let them
- 26:24go tell everybody else about it and to
- 26:26bring them into the affiliate.
- 26:29But I don't know if we can go
- 26:30back to that again.
- 26:32Right.
- 26:32Because I think like the genie's out of
- 26:34the bottle and you have to like show
- 26:36them that it's a fun place to be
- 26:40with other people.
- 26:43Right.
- 26:46And so I think that is so that's
- 26:50where I do agree with Hiller.
- 26:51I do think there needs to be an
- 26:52action item at the end of like,
- 26:54how do you get to the affiliate?
- 26:57And it's okay to pump up the base
- 27:00and let them tell more people again.
- 27:02But we need more than that now.
- 27:05Agreed.
- 27:05I mean,
- 27:06I think that's sort of what we talked
- 27:07about last week.
- 27:07And that's kind of our problem is
- 27:11we we aren't reaching new people we aren't
- 27:14reaching the people we need to reach like
- 27:16it just is this echo chamber of ourselves
- 27:18who already love the methodology um yeah i
- 27:22don't know how you grow it at this
- 27:25point we're missing something
- 27:28Well,
- 27:28I feel like there's just so many options
- 27:30out there for people.
- 27:31There's the F-Forty-Five,
- 27:32there's the Orange Theory,
- 27:32there's the CrossFit,
- 27:33there's this and that, right?
- 27:35Alpha classes.
- 27:36So maybe it's something that's, like,
- 27:38what are the differences with what you're
- 27:40getting out of all of those?
- 27:41And, like, why is ours, you know,
- 27:46the best?
- 27:46Or maybe something that's, like,
- 27:48kind of more explanatory in terms of what
- 27:51you're really getting from CrossFit and...
- 27:55how it separates.
- 27:56Cause I think all of these,
- 27:57like we're just assuming that everyone
- 27:58just knows what it is, but I think,
- 28:03yeah.
- 28:03Cause I think people just don't know where
- 28:05to like, how to start, where to go.
- 28:08I mean,
- 28:09it still has that negative connotation.
- 28:13It does.
- 28:13Expensive injury.
- 28:16It's hard.
- 28:17There's a lot,
- 28:18there's a large barrier of entry for
- 28:20people who are
- 28:22just hearing about it.
- 28:23They're just like,
- 28:24nothing's drawing them in.
- 28:26Yeah.
- 28:26The movements are too difficult.
- 28:27I can't do that.
- 28:28I'm not in a, in good enough shape.
- 28:31Um, and the injuries, um,
- 28:34Wayne's Wayne short says needs an ending
- 28:38like mayhem, uh,
- 28:39that they ran during crash.
- 28:41When you're ready,
- 28:42we have a spot for you.
- 28:44I did like that.
- 28:47I agree.
- 28:49Um,
- 28:50larry young either way i'm very happy
- 28:52they're trying to bring the edge back yeah
- 28:57um all the moves lately are fantastic just
- 28:59praying the open is a little more like
- 29:00the old opens it was a big deal
- 29:03like you better get ready for the open
- 29:04is coming um
- 29:07Here's where I think you just have to
- 29:08shift your mindset, though.
- 29:10The days of the five-week open are over.
- 29:14You have to look at it.
- 29:16The open now is the three-week open with
- 29:18quarterfinals.
- 29:21And that is the entire open.
- 29:24And so the first three weeks are you
- 29:28trying to get into the top twenty-five
- 29:29percent to be able to complete the last
- 29:32two weeks of the open,
- 29:33which is really just a long weekend of
- 29:35like four or five
- 29:37elements but i think that you have to
- 29:39change your mindset into believing that
- 29:41that is the full open now yeah i
- 29:49agree with that um um aaron frazier my
- 29:56affiliate has new people join all the time
- 29:58but most don't stay for more than three
- 30:00months and that's i then you i think
- 30:04the affiliate then has to ask themselves
- 30:06Yeah.
- 30:07What,
- 30:07what are we doing where they're not
- 30:09wanting to stay?
- 30:12Yeah.
- 30:13I feel like it takes at least three
- 30:14months for people to, we,
- 30:17we sell our new,
- 30:18our like new member package is a three
- 30:20month package.
- 30:20Cause most people don't see the benefit of
- 30:23it in a month or two.
- 30:25And I mean, even three months is,
- 30:27is pushing it,
- 30:28but like you have to get into a
- 30:31routine and,
- 30:33most people are a little like too hesitant
- 30:35to start out for more than three times
- 30:37a week um you kind of have to
- 30:40build up to four maybe five times a
- 30:42week and get into that schedule and
- 30:45consistency um yeah i don't know i'd be
- 30:50curious what's going on with your
- 30:51affiliate why why they lose people because
- 30:53you should be you should by three months
- 30:55be able to get them bought in yeah
- 31:02I like this.
- 31:03This is me.
- 31:05David Reed.
- 31:06I never get injured because of CrossFit.
- 31:08I get injured because I'm stupid.
- 31:11Yeah.
- 31:11Yeah.
- 31:11And ego and thinking that you should be
- 31:14able to do this,
- 31:15but you're not there yet, you know?
- 31:17You know,
- 31:17most of my back things have been because
- 31:20I lifted a laundry basket,
- 31:21not because I dead lifted,
- 31:23but because when you're,
- 31:24we think you're strong now in your home,
- 31:27just doing something routine,
- 31:29you don't set yourself to lift it.
- 31:31Right.
- 31:32You lean off to the side and like,
- 31:35try to, yeah.
- 31:38Yes, for sure.
- 31:41Um,
- 31:43And then Clooney's makes a good point.
- 31:45The most viewed video on all CrossFit
- 31:47YouTube channels is what is CrossFit?
- 31:49People still don't know what CrossFit is.
- 31:54And I think that's the elimination of the
- 31:57media team.
- 31:58While it may have gotten too big in
- 32:00two thousand eighteen and may needed to do
- 32:02be reduced a little bit.
- 32:04I don't know.
- 32:05I didn't work there.
- 32:06I don't know how many people were
- 32:07employed, but.
- 32:09they were starting to put out a lot
- 32:11of videos with like,
- 32:13eight year old grandmothers deadlifting
- 32:15and working out.
- 32:16And I think that was starting to tell
- 32:19people what it was.
- 32:21And right when we were heading in that
- 32:22direction is when they cut the media.
- 32:24Yep.
- 32:27And then we lost all that.
- 32:28And we went to the blue jugs and
- 32:30the couch.
- 32:31Yep.
- 32:33And then it, it looked asinine,
- 32:36to be honest.
- 32:38I know what he was trying to accomplish
- 32:40with that,
- 32:42that you don't even need weights to do
- 32:44it.
- 32:44You just need to do the movements,
- 32:46but it just, it didn't come across well.
- 32:49But I do think that they needed like,
- 32:50like they, they could go in a,
- 32:52in a campaign that's like,
- 32:53what is CrossFit?
- 32:54And then more like updated version of it,
- 32:58even though like CrossFit hasn't changed,
- 33:00but just like a new,
- 33:01a new campaign that's like fresh.
- 33:04And just like explaining the basics of,
- 33:07you know,
- 33:07taking all of these elements from like
- 33:10weightlifting or power lifting or throwing
- 33:14body movements like calisthenics and
- 33:16gymnastics and cardio and just combining
- 33:19them in thoughtful combinations, you know,
- 33:22to produce the best adaptation.
- 33:26And then you have different types of
- 33:28people doing the movements and then also
- 33:31maybe like functional movements and like
- 33:33how you see them doing like a deadlift
- 33:35and then you see like the grandpa doing
- 33:37grabbing something from the floor.
- 33:39Like I, you know,
- 33:39like that Christmas commercial that with
- 33:41that kettlebell,
- 33:42like always comes to mind,
- 33:43like almost like adding something like
- 33:45that to like,
- 33:46what is CrossFit and how it's transferable
- 33:48to everyday activities to just win at
- 33:51life,
- 33:52I think would be a good next campaign.
- 33:55Yeah.
- 33:56The two messages I wish that would be
- 33:58conveyed are that CrossFit is what you
- 34:02want it to be.
- 34:04Like, you know,
- 34:05cause you can scale everything.
- 34:07So,
- 34:08It can be whatever you need it to
- 34:10be in that time.
- 34:11And the other thing I think that needs
- 34:13to be pushed is skinny is not healthy.
- 34:18Like being able to lift that baby at
- 34:21Christmas because he worked out and that
- 34:23didn't come from being skinny.
- 34:26It became from moving and lifting that
- 34:28kettlebell so that he could lift the baby
- 34:30up over his head.
- 34:32Right?
- 34:34Right.
- 34:36Because I think like with the GLP ones,
- 34:39everybody's promoting skinny and they're
- 34:43calling it healthy.
- 34:45Being skinny doesn't make you healthy.
- 34:47Oh no.
- 34:47There's the skinny.
- 34:49There's so many other aspects to health
- 34:51for sure.
- 34:52Other than then now that can weight loss
- 34:56can truly is a big component to getting
- 34:59you there,
- 35:00but it's just one of the components.
- 35:05Yeah.
- 35:19The larger picture is it's not just
- 35:22working out.
- 35:22It's health and friendships and support.
- 35:25Yeah.
- 35:26Vicki, as always,
- 35:27you said it better than I do.
- 35:31And Fergie with the weekly question to
- 35:33Jamie.
- 35:35Jamie,
- 35:35would you rather sit in the middle seat
- 35:38to Scotland between two strong men or do
- 35:41acid bath workout every day for a week?
- 35:44I mean,
- 35:45you could do acid bath every week,
- 35:47every day and not at the true intensity
- 35:51and just get through it.
- 35:53So, I mean, I'd lean there, but like,
- 35:55does this mean I get to go to
- 35:56Scotland for free?
- 35:57Cause I think I might deal with that.
- 36:01Well, and you know,
- 36:03I know you guys don't believe me,
- 36:04but Jamie is, is not big.
- 36:06She is tiny.
- 36:08If anybody could fit in the middle seat
- 36:09between Brian Shaw and Thor, it's Jamie.
- 36:13But Jamie's jacked.
- 36:14She is.
- 36:15She is.
- 36:15She's not tiny.
- 36:16Cause when I would go next to her,
- 36:19I'd be like, damn, Jamie, you're jacked.
- 36:22Making me feel a little small.
- 36:27Yeah.
- 36:27I didn't say her muscles were small.
- 36:29I'm just like the overall Jamie is it's,
- 36:33it's a lot in a little package.
- 36:36Did you guys pick your seat on that
- 36:38Rogue plane?
- 36:39I did not.
- 36:40No.
- 36:42Craig says he picked Tenby.
- 36:43I don't even know.
- 36:44I think that's the Ariel and Danny Spiegel
- 36:46seat.
- 36:46That one got a lot of votes.
- 36:54Yeah, I can't even,
- 36:55I wish I could pull it up and
- 36:57we could actually ask the question, but...
- 37:01So the next big story of the week
- 37:04and cause some back and forth in our
- 37:06chat group is Dallin Pepper announced that
- 37:08he is not going to be at Rogue
- 37:10because he contracted Rabdo.
- 37:16And he says during the Waterpalooza SoCal
- 37:19bike event,
- 37:22and this caused some debate back and forth
- 37:28publicly on the internet,
- 37:29it
- 37:30There are people like John Wood and people
- 37:32like Hiller saying that it's too many
- 37:35competitions in a year.
- 37:38And why I wanted to bring that up
- 37:40is because my friend Carolyn has a
- 37:43different take on that.
- 37:44And I would really like to give her
- 37:45the floor to be able to talk about
- 37:47that.
- 37:47Well,
- 37:47I don't think it's not like a different
- 37:49take.
- 37:50I don't think it's necessarily the amount
- 37:52of competitions.
- 37:55But I do think that there's something with
- 37:56the volume that just a lot of these
- 37:58athletes are training at in general.
- 38:01But you could have Rabdo at any point
- 38:03in the year with a lot of training
- 38:06or limited training.
- 38:09A lot of it happens when you're
- 38:10dehydrated.
- 38:11It is a factor.
- 38:12And the symptoms of it don't start until
- 38:15twenty four hours to even forty twenty
- 38:17four to like seventy two hours after you
- 38:20took, you know,
- 38:22place in some sort of very hard activity
- 38:25and stuff like that.
- 38:26I had rhabdo one time in twenty nineteen
- 38:28one time.
- 38:28The only time I've ever had it at
- 38:31the CrossFit Games.
- 38:32I it wasn't from like.
- 38:39it was, it was a combination of things.
- 38:40I didn't train outside.
- 38:42I trained everything indoors.
- 38:44Like I didn't have access to an out,
- 38:46like a lot of outdoor activities when I
- 38:48was training for the games that year.
- 38:50And I was very dehydrated.
- 38:51Everything was outside the sun.
- 38:53And then you mix that in with high
- 38:55volume workout, like Mary.
- 38:58And yeah, it took like,
- 39:00it took almost a month for me to
- 39:02learn how to do a pull-up after,
- 39:03but yeah,
- 39:04Like it's very hard to say that or
- 39:06like make a conclusion that it's just
- 39:09because they're competing too much.
- 39:10Like,
- 39:10I don't know that you can really say
- 39:14that.
- 39:14Like it's not happening to everyone and
- 39:16you could do one competition and it
- 39:18happens.
- 39:18Like I wasn't, you know,
- 39:20it could happen to anyone.
- 39:21It happened to a WNBA player.
- 39:23The best point,
- 39:24the best female point guard,
- 39:26Kelsey Mitchell,
- 39:28she had robbed out in the semifinals of
- 39:31this year's playoffs.
- 39:32Like,
- 39:33She just started cramping up at the
- 39:36basketball game and then like got taken
- 39:39off.
- 39:39And like,
- 39:41I just think it can happen to a
- 39:43lot of people, not just like CrossFit,
- 39:45like anytime you're exerting yourself.
- 39:47And a lot of times those symptoms have
- 39:49started maybe earlier on,
- 39:51like the day before a couple of days
- 39:53before with heat, dehydration,
- 39:54high volume.
- 39:57So he could just be worn down from
- 39:58training as well.
- 39:59Not necessarily the competition part,
- 40:01but that workout was extremely hard.
- 40:03And he's pushing himself to the,
- 40:04to the max.
- 40:06Aaron Frazier says,
- 40:07if you listen to Matt Torres this morning
- 40:09on WOD prep,
- 40:10he said that they could tell something was
- 40:12building leading up to Waza.
- 40:15The fifty cow bike was just the final
- 40:17straw.
- 40:17Yeah.
- 40:19I wish I could have kept up with
- 40:20WOD prep.
- 40:21They were knocking shows out this weekend.
- 40:24Live from that coach of Palooza or coach
- 40:27a thon or,
- 40:29whatever it was called.
- 40:31Um, affiliate thon.
- 40:34Yeah.
- 40:34Something like, yeah.
- 40:36Um, uh, cause I,
- 40:39I'm really starting to like CJ and Claire
- 40:41doing that show.
- 40:43Um, I,
- 40:44I just could not keep up this weekend,
- 40:47especially being down a laptop.
- 40:50Um,
- 40:53Grant, you weren't paying attention.
- 40:55Carolyn said she had rat rub dough at
- 40:57the two thousand nineteen CrossFit Games
- 40:59out in the sun all day.
- 41:01Big wad like Mary didn't start like Mary
- 41:04was the final string.
- 41:06Like my arms were stuck like this for,
- 41:09you know,
- 41:09many days where I couldn't even extend
- 41:10them and swollen, but.
- 41:13it started with like the ruck run being
- 41:15you know middle of the day then like
- 41:17I just remember like after that that event
- 41:20like I'm drinking water and as soon as
- 41:22the cold water touches me like I just
- 41:23like was losing control of my body and
- 41:25like it started early on that day and
- 41:27then like Mary was like in the evening
- 41:29and that's like the last thing um
- 41:33but i'm assuming for like like someone
- 41:35said uh torres said about dallin like i
- 41:38would have started prior to that event and
- 41:41maybe even a couple days before or even
- 41:43weeks before that some symptoms are
- 41:45starting to come and that's just the final
- 41:47straw is that hard hard intense workout
- 41:51with all of those machines and burpees and
- 41:54stuff but since i yeah it can happen
- 41:57in a car accident like it
- 41:59I don't think you can blame it on
- 42:01these athletes are competing too much.
- 42:03Like,
- 42:04I think it can happen to anyone at
- 42:06any time if you're, like, yeah.
- 42:11My apologies.
- 42:12It was AffiliateCon, like Comic-Con,
- 42:15like those types of things.
- 42:16Yeah, sorry.
- 42:18I was getting it mixed up with Coaches
- 42:19Congress and trying to figure out
- 42:21whatever.
- 42:22But, yeah,
- 42:23CrossFit says naming event like my dad
- 42:27says Chipotle.
- 42:28Chipotle.
- 42:30instead of Chipotle.
- 42:31Yeah.
- 42:38So my question is,
- 42:40if you know it's coming,
- 42:43is there is there a way to like
- 42:44stop it is or is there too much
- 42:46pressure to go into the event?
- 42:53Like, you know what I'm saying?
- 42:56Or is it like you're like,
- 42:57you're like your aunt,
- 42:58since you were at the games,
- 43:00if you felt like you're not going to
- 43:02quit the games, right?
- 43:04No,
- 43:04but the symptoms often come about like
- 43:06twenty four hours to like seventy two
- 43:08hours after.
- 43:09It's like I still did the sprinting event
- 43:12that following day.
- 43:14And I woke up that morning.
- 43:15I mean,
- 43:16I heard my cap on the on the
- 43:17Mary event like a.
- 43:19coming down from the, from the rig,
- 43:21but regardless of the calf issue that I
- 43:23was having,
- 43:24like my arms felt very heavy and like
- 43:26I was having trouble like extending them.
- 43:28I was like, oh, they're sore.
- 43:29But like,
- 43:30like I just felt like my upper body
- 43:32was stuck.
- 43:33And then the following day it was getting
- 43:35worse and worse.
- 43:36Whereas like when you have DOMS, like,
- 43:38you know, that peak, you know,
- 43:41moment where like your muscles is sore is
- 43:43like, you know, a day or two after,
- 43:47and then it gets better after.
- 43:48Like when you have rhabdo,
- 43:49it gets worse and worse and worse.
- 43:52So it's like started feeling it the next
- 43:54day of Mary, not right after Mary.
- 43:56Like I was cramping a little bit like
- 43:58in my calf after Mary because I had
- 44:01fallen from the rig weird.
- 44:02But I didn't know that I was having
- 44:05rhabdo,
- 44:05like that I was going to have rhabdo
- 44:06at that point.
- 44:07You don't,
- 44:07like it starts a little bit later.
- 44:10It's almost like it's too late at that
- 44:12point.
- 44:12And if you didn't hydrate as well and
- 44:14like, I don't know.
- 44:19um fergie's asking the granite games i
- 44:21think i missed it it flew by um
- 44:24that was twenty twenty two when granite
- 44:27games had the big heat wave at like
- 44:29a hundred and ten degrees on that football
- 44:31field and christy had the bad time there
- 44:34saxon was actually like helped off the
- 44:37field after the final event of the one
- 44:40night it that it was crazy hot there
- 44:43but that was twenty twenty two not twenty
- 44:45nineteen um
- 44:49think i'm curious if larry doesn't have a
- 44:51point here um go ahead i've never looked
- 44:58but curious if high protein intake like
- 45:00athletes do contributes to kidneys can't
- 45:02keep up comps maybe cut back like he's
- 45:06saying at comps maybe they should cut back
- 45:08on like the extreme protein intake focus
- 45:11on like on carb yeah i could see
- 45:14that a little bit i mean
- 45:18It's a lot for the kidneys to process.
- 45:23And Eric Frazier, looking back,
- 45:25they say Dallin's heart rate to
- 45:29sustainable paces were way off leading
- 45:31into the event.
- 45:32Looking back, they make the connection.
- 45:34So he's saying that they now looking back
- 45:37at the data they had from before,
- 45:39they can make the connection as to why
- 45:40he got there.
- 45:41It wasn't like they knew that day that
- 45:43he was leading up to it,
- 45:45I think is what he's saying.
- 45:49Um, I just think that there's,
- 45:50there's just like so many factors and it's
- 45:52very like,
- 45:54like per case by case on things that
- 45:57can happen.
- 45:57I think it's just hard to like,
- 46:00to yeah.
- 46:01Make that conclusion on what really went
- 46:04wrong with X, Y, and Z on everyone.
- 46:09yeah all right so i wanted to get
- 46:11that out because i we're going heading
- 46:14into factor fiction and my first factor
- 46:17fiction is going to um involve this piece
- 46:23so here we go factor fiction the wfp
- 46:27has taken too many hits this week with
- 46:29the pepper conversation the withdrawals
- 46:32etc and now have a bigger hole to
- 46:35dig out of
- 46:36Before I answer,
- 46:37what's the pepper conversation?
- 46:39The Rabdo.
- 46:41Oh,
- 46:41because he's not competing at the
- 46:42following WFP?
- 46:44No.
- 46:46The Rabdo has not affected his WFP
- 46:48participation at this point.
- 46:49But people are saying too many
- 46:51competitions in the year.
- 46:53All of that.
- 46:54So that's what I'm talking about,
- 46:55the conversation.
- 46:57And then we have Haley and Victor Hoffer's
- 46:59withdrawals from WFP championships.
- 47:03And that's it.
- 47:08I mean... I think fiction.
- 47:10I don't know if it's really this week.
- 47:12I'm not surprised by Hayley not going
- 47:15there.
- 47:15She's not going to get her pro card
- 47:16after missing two events.
- 47:20Emma McQuaid's not going to have her pro
- 47:22card as well.
- 47:23Victor Hoffer probably not having his pro
- 47:25card.
- 47:26He tried to come back with his knee,
- 47:27but it's just not there.
- 47:31I don't know.
- 47:32I kind of feel like fiction too.
- 47:34I don't know if these are...
- 47:37going to stop it from growing per se.
- 47:40I mean,
- 47:40are there some athletes thinking through
- 47:42this and being like,
- 47:44I don't know if I want to be
- 47:45involved in two seasons and do this much.
- 47:47Maybe.
- 47:49But again, I think, I mean, until...
- 47:52they get through the season and we figure
- 47:53out what next season looks like.
- 47:54And are they,
- 47:56are they being transparent with the amount
- 47:58per contract?
- 48:00There's going to be other things that are
- 48:01going to make this flop or, or not.
- 48:04And I don't think that this is causing
- 48:07a bigger hole.
- 48:08Have we had any information on, like,
- 48:10are they paying out, like,
- 48:11have they been paying out the athletes on
- 48:12time and stuff like that?
- 48:13Like, I haven't heard of anything.
- 48:15Do they wait for the season to be
- 48:16done?
- 48:17Do they get their money up front?
- 48:19Well,
- 48:19I'm assuming not their money up front
- 48:20because if you don't go to a competition,
- 48:23you don't get it.
- 48:24Right.
- 48:25Just curious how that works.
- 48:26I have not heard that they have not
- 48:27been doing that.
- 48:29So I'm assuming that if they the payouts
- 48:31were due now,
- 48:32they are making the payments in time.
- 48:35And I know the people behind it have
- 48:36the money.
- 48:37So it's not like and they knew they
- 48:39were going to lose money going into year
- 48:41one.
- 48:42I mean, that was,
- 48:44so I think that that is probably not
- 48:46a factor at all.
- 48:48Here's where I think it,
- 48:49here's where I think the biggest thing is.
- 48:52One,
- 48:52I think Haley is a demonstration that
- 48:55people are already making this decision to
- 48:57go one way or another.
- 48:59And Laura too.
- 49:00Laura, though, is going all WFP.
- 49:03Haley's decided all CrossFit Games.
- 49:06And so I think that there are people
- 49:08making the decision already to go all in
- 49:10one way or another.
- 49:12The other thing is,
- 49:14I think that this too many competitions
- 49:16conversation is growing.
- 49:18If you listen to Boys Interrupted,
- 49:20when they went to tour stop two,
- 49:23a lot of them said that they were
- 49:24not into it like they thought they would
- 49:26be, that they just wanted a break.
- 49:29And I think that with them adding a
- 49:31fourth location next year,
- 49:34that is only going to amplify that
- 49:36conversation.
- 49:37And we may have more people choose one
- 49:41side or another.
- 49:43as opposed to trying to do both.
- 49:46So I do think that there's a little
- 49:48bit of a PR hole that they have
- 49:50to address and try to figure out a
- 49:52solution to.
- 49:54I don't think they're going away before
- 49:58the conclusion of next season,
- 50:00but I do think that it's a PR
- 50:01thing that they're going to have to
- 50:02address.
- 50:06That's my opinion.
- 50:10Vicky says pencil.
- 50:11Now, doggone it.
- 50:12I'm trying to get people in the right
- 50:13game.
- 50:16I was going to do pencil, pen,
- 50:18Sharpie this week,
- 50:19but the statements just didn't lend itself
- 50:21to that answer this week.
- 50:24We'll go back to it, though.
- 50:25I promise.
- 50:29The original Space Cowboy.
- 50:31Eventually,
- 50:32that annoying fly either gets swatted or
- 50:34just goes away.
- 50:35And I'm probably the only one old enough
- 50:37to know what that joke was there,
- 50:39but okay.
- 50:51Doing this touchscreen is not fun.
- 50:55CrossFat says,
- 50:57feels like the WFP is trending toward
- 50:59becoming a European tour.
- 51:02I agree with that.
- 51:04I don't think so for next year.
- 51:07Inviting winners from the comps over
- 51:10there,
- 51:10I feel like that's what they're pulling
- 51:12towards.
- 51:12Well, that makes sense, though.
- 51:15Because the finals are over there.
- 51:16The final is there,
- 51:17so you have competitions going on right
- 51:19now.
- 51:20If your pool of athletes for the team
- 51:22divisions and stuff is so low,
- 51:23you may as well start using those
- 51:26competitions and inviting people to your
- 51:30event because they'll bring, hopefully,
- 51:32family and friends and spectators.
- 51:36So I think that makes sense.
- 51:37I don't think it's turning into a
- 51:38European,
- 51:39but I think it's very –
- 51:42attractive for Europeans to be going on
- 51:45this, um, tour.
- 51:49Cause a lot of them did, um,
- 51:51decide not to do the season this year.
- 51:52I,
- 51:54that's where I think the it's coming from
- 51:57is a lot of the Europeans backed out
- 51:58of the games or don't want anything to
- 52:01do with CrossFit proper.
- 52:04And this is,
- 52:06this is the alternative for them.
- 52:10Um,
- 52:12I guess I really need to see this
- 52:13show.
- 52:15Torres talked about this as well.
- 52:17Basically said all his athletes are
- 52:19prioritizing the twenty twenty six game
- 52:21season.
- 52:23It doesn't mean they're not doing WFP.
- 52:26He just says they're prioritizing.
- 52:27Did you see Nick Matthews is Brute now
- 52:30as well?
- 52:31I did not.
- 52:33Wow.
- 52:34He switched to Brute.
- 52:35He was proven.
- 52:36I believe.
- 52:39Yeah, he had a Brute shirt,
- 52:42so his video was cutting a crop top.
- 52:46You wouldn't expect anything other than
- 52:48that for him.
- 52:50I don't know which coach he's working
- 52:51with.
- 52:54I saw a clip from girls in the
- 52:56box office saying that now that Brute
- 52:59doesn't have a headquarters,
- 53:00they're not hot anymore.
- 53:02In the hot, not hot.
- 53:03Come on.
- 53:04They just signed Nick Matthew.
- 53:06They just signed Emma Lawson.
- 53:08They're not hurting.
- 53:11they're they are going to be a force
- 53:12to reckon with um dylan fee james love
- 53:16matt torres yeah they have the like three
- 53:19of the best male athletes in our sport
- 53:21right now too like it's yeah yeah they're
- 53:25growing they're doing very well yeah
- 53:26they're going to stay hot for a while
- 53:29i mean they're doing something right plus
- 53:31as i've said dylan pepper is my favorite
- 53:33athlete in the whole wide world and
- 53:37Because he told people they should watch
- 53:38our show.
- 53:43Yeah.
- 53:43And Hattie's there too.
- 53:45Yeah.
- 53:47Kenneth, some people call me Maurice.
- 53:49He got my joke.
- 53:50All right.
- 53:56But Brute is becoming the University of
- 53:59Phoenix online.
- 54:04But isn't everybody...
- 54:07I mean,
- 54:08really the only one with like a true
- 54:09headquarters is maybe proven,
- 54:12but none of their athletes work out there
- 54:14like all year.
- 54:16Tia and the group are even in Australia
- 54:19now.
- 54:19I mean, Mayhem.
- 54:21Mayhem.
- 54:21Quite a bit of athletes that are on
- 54:23the spot there.
- 54:25But until Austin was dating Haley,
- 54:28he wasn't in Cookville.
- 54:30I don't know.
- 54:30I mean, he had a pretty –
- 54:35Pretty big handful of athletes there.
- 54:38Roman, when he was training.
- 54:43Vicky said Matt Torres moved back to
- 54:45Nashville and said every four weeks he'll
- 54:47be meeting with them in person.
- 54:49Who's them?
- 54:51I think his athletes.
- 54:54They're coming to him or he's going to
- 54:56all these separate places?
- 54:57Yeah,
- 54:58because they're all separated in different
- 54:59places.
- 54:59Yeah, I think he's...
- 55:01That's a lot of trouble.
- 55:02Maybe one week with Dallin,
- 55:03one week with James...
- 55:06One week with Fi, one week with Emma.
- 55:18So, yeah, Larry Young, you got it too.
- 55:26Okay.
- 55:28So the next fact or fiction.
- 55:31Oh,
- 55:31that one took a lot longer than I
- 55:32thought.
- 55:32Here we go.
- 55:34The Henniger should be an example to all
- 55:36organizations inside the fitness space of
- 55:39how to run your company.
- 55:41Oh, fact.
- 55:43Yeah, I mean,
- 55:48they clearly have a lot of pride in
- 55:51their product.
- 55:54I mean, that's the people you want.
- 55:56Everyone who is a Rogue athlete,
- 55:58everyone who works for Rogue...
- 56:02loves working or doing the best that they
- 56:05can for the Hennigers.
- 56:07Like they're doing everything that,
- 56:08you know,
- 56:11like they're extremely loyal to Rogue.
- 56:16And Rogue is very loyal to their athletes
- 56:18as well.
- 56:18Like still supporting so many of them for
- 56:20the Legends division, you know.
- 56:25If you did not see,
- 56:26so the one podcast I did watch is
- 56:29Katie on Coffee Pods and WODs.
- 56:32like i one i live in columbus rogue
- 56:35is a major player in our city we
- 56:38love them to death here they are so
- 56:41good to the city and the people who
- 56:42work there but what she said in that
- 56:46interview i mean just elevated her in my
- 56:49point in my view as just a major
- 56:52player in leadership um
- 56:57And she said things like,
- 56:59if I make a handshake agreement with you
- 57:01and I look you in the eye,
- 57:03then I'm going to do what I said
- 57:04I did.
- 57:05Yeah.
- 57:07And I think if other people took that
- 57:08same approach,
- 57:10we would be in a much better situation
- 57:13in all the different CrossFit pieces.
- 57:19She talked about how she watches all the
- 57:21other competitions so she can learn from
- 57:23those to make hers the best it can
- 57:25be.
- 57:27Like we've never heard that from other
- 57:29people.
- 57:33She, it just,
- 57:34every time she was approached with a
- 57:36subject, she just nailed the answer.
- 57:39And, and she also said like, they're not,
- 57:43they're not coming,
- 57:43going back to Scotland next year because
- 57:45two years is enough.
- 57:46They need to move around and give more
- 57:48people the opportunity to attend these
- 57:50events.
- 57:52And I, and I thought that was awesome.
- 57:53Yeah, that is awesome.
- 57:54That's a great way to look at that.
- 57:59And she said, two years is perfect.
- 58:01It gives us,
- 58:04we know what we can set it up
- 58:06the first year.
- 58:07We know what we're getting into year two.
- 58:09And then we move to a new location
- 58:11to try new things.
- 58:17I also think it keeps it fresh.
- 58:18If you always do it at the same
- 58:19place,
- 58:20although like I love Madison for the
- 58:21games,
- 58:23like people want to have an excuse to
- 58:25go visit different places.
- 58:26Once you visited once,
- 58:28oftentimes like you want to go somewhere
- 58:30else for the following year,
- 58:31just a new place, a new,
- 58:33like new memories.
- 58:34So I don't mind them, you know,
- 58:36going a couple of years in Aberdeen and
- 58:37then going something like another,
- 58:41another venue,
- 58:42never another place and more options for
- 58:44workouts and stuff like that.
- 58:48Yeah, like she said, she watched Crash.
- 58:50She says she watches, like, Wadapalooza.
- 58:54Like,
- 58:54she watches all the events to learn from.
- 58:59And I just thought it was cool.
- 59:03But the one thing that, you know,
- 59:04we questioned why they didn't have a
- 59:05bigger presence at the age group games.
- 59:08And when she talked about that they were
- 59:11still unpacking from the games at that
- 59:14point and loading up for Scotland at that
- 59:18point to get the stuff on the ships
- 59:21to get overseas,
- 59:22it made more sense to me that, like,
- 59:24they were probably pretty...
- 59:28thin at that point trying to get
- 59:31everything back and out uh for what they
- 59:35were doing and you know we we've asked
- 59:38about the WFP lighting Rogue takes all
- 59:41their own lighting over to Aberdeen that
- 59:44whole lighting rig got shipped over to to
- 59:49Scotland last year and is getting shipped
- 59:51over there again this year
- 59:53So she can guarantee that the floor is
- 59:57going to be visible for the stream.
- 1:00:03That's the detail that is just unreal.
- 1:00:09And I just liked it.
- 1:00:18Thoughts, Carolyn, or just a breath?
- 1:00:20Well, I was going to say,
- 1:00:21I would love to see the behind the
- 1:00:22scenes day of a life day in the
- 1:00:24life of Bill and Katie.
- 1:00:26You'll never see it.
- 1:00:27I know, but that would be so,
- 1:00:29that would be really cool to see just
- 1:00:31because they, they're very involved,
- 1:00:33like at Rogan, like, you know,
- 1:00:35they're not, they're like, yeah, they're,
- 1:00:37they're involved.
- 1:00:38They're everywhere.
- 1:00:40And even when like things are getting
- 1:00:41built at the games,
- 1:00:42like they're on the floor,
- 1:00:43hard hats on doing stuff.
- 1:00:46Yeah.
- 1:00:46Leading from the front.
- 1:00:47So that would be cool to see.
- 1:00:51Tristan, I bet they have some wild days.
- 1:00:56Yeah,
- 1:00:58the stuff they build the stuff that they
- 1:01:00like,
- 1:01:01it's got to be it's got to be
- 1:01:04interesting to just like,
- 1:01:06just to see Bill at work with that
- 1:01:08creative mind on coming up with something
- 1:01:11new.
- 1:01:13And just how many things have they tried
- 1:01:15that they've scrapped?
- 1:01:17yeah that they just they tried to put
- 1:01:19together no that ain't gonna work so we
- 1:01:20gotta start over um so anyway yeah just
- 1:01:30really cool um it's a shame their original
- 1:01:34crossfit gym is no longer a crossfit gym
- 1:01:38Because it was until like two or three
- 1:01:40years ago.
- 1:01:42And then CrossFit Grandview moved out of
- 1:01:43that location.
- 1:01:46So we don't have that anymore.
- 1:01:47But, man.
- 1:01:49And now they're building on to the factory
- 1:01:52so they can get – they had five
- 1:01:54buildings in Columbus.
- 1:01:56They built the new factory so they could
- 1:01:58get down to one.
- 1:01:59They've grown so much they're now in four.
- 1:02:02And they're building on to the factory
- 1:02:04again to get down to one.
- 1:02:09That's crazy.
- 1:02:10It's so big.
- 1:02:14Awesome.
- 1:02:20Larry Young, she's such a boss.
- 1:02:22Mad props.
- 1:02:24They're a super couple.
- 1:02:28The coolest story I have with Katie is
- 1:02:30I was at Rogue working on the documentary
- 1:02:32team.
- 1:02:33I had a Penn State shirt on and
- 1:02:35she came at me
- 1:02:37Because that weekend,
- 1:02:39Penn State was playing Ohio State,
- 1:02:40and she talked so much mad trash on
- 1:02:42me.
- 1:02:44And nothing about CrossFit,
- 1:02:46nothing about what was going on that day.
- 1:02:49She just wanted me to know that her
- 1:02:50Buckeyes were going to smash my Penn State
- 1:02:54Nittany Alliance.
- 1:02:57So much fun.
- 1:02:59Sounds like her.
- 1:03:01And her banner hangs in the rafters at
- 1:03:03the arena because she is a Hall of
- 1:03:05Fame Buckeye basketball player.
- 1:03:08Yeah,
- 1:03:09I think she still has the most points
- 1:03:10or something for the Buckeyes.
- 1:03:13Yeah, I think someone approached it.
- 1:03:14I don't know if they passed it in
- 1:03:16the last year.
- 1:03:17I think she still has a record.
- 1:03:19Okay.
- 1:03:19It was close, but yeah,
- 1:03:22her jersey retired in the rafters at the
- 1:03:25arena here.
- 1:03:26And CrossFit Games champion.
- 1:03:29So...
- 1:03:30She still, she does, um, like, um,
- 1:03:33like some broadcasting for the woman's
- 1:03:35basketball team.
- 1:03:36Oh, nice.
- 1:03:37Yeah.
- 1:03:38She does.
- 1:03:39And we'll travel with the team,
- 1:03:40like color commentary and stuff like that.
- 1:03:42Her.
- 1:03:42Yeah.
- 1:03:43That's great at that.
- 1:03:46Yeah.
- 1:03:46Um, so next one, uh, factor fiction,
- 1:03:50the Toronto blue Jays will win the world
- 1:03:52series.
- 1:03:52I should have worn my Jersey tonight.
- 1:03:55Fact.
- 1:03:57We got this.
- 1:03:58We got this.
- 1:04:02I hope they do.
- 1:04:04I don't like to see repeat winners.
- 1:04:07And the Dodgers dominated so much last
- 1:04:09year by sweeping the Yankees.
- 1:04:11I'm just glad Toronto won a game,
- 1:04:12and I hope they keep winning.
- 1:04:15I do feel like a lot of people
- 1:04:17are hoping that Toronto wins.
- 1:04:20I feel the support from people.
- 1:04:24That they want to have an underdog winner.
- 1:04:28Yeah.
- 1:04:30typically the way it goes.
- 1:04:31I don't know.
- 1:04:32When the Tigers lost, I stopped watching,
- 1:04:35so your guys' guess is as good as
- 1:04:37mine.
- 1:04:41Yeah.
- 1:04:42All right, last one.
- 1:04:45Factor Fiction saw speculation in the chat
- 1:04:47earlier tonight.
- 1:04:48The age group games will be in the
- 1:04:50same city as the Elite CrossFit Games one
- 1:04:52last time for the twentieth anniversary.
- 1:04:57Fiction.
- 1:04:57Fiction.
- 1:04:59I'm going to say fact because that's what
- 1:05:01would happen to me on the year that
- 1:05:05I have no way of competing.
- 1:05:07It would work out that it's all back
- 1:05:10together again and I'm going to miss out.
- 1:05:13That's just my luck.
- 1:05:13I just don't see it.
- 1:05:15I don't see it happening.
- 1:05:20I mean,
- 1:05:22I don't think it's going to happen.
- 1:05:25I want it to happen one last time.
- 1:05:31But I don't think it will.
- 1:05:33I think they like it separate.
- 1:05:39Yeah, I agree.
- 1:05:41I don't think CrossFit wants to get them
- 1:05:43into the business of doing it again.
- 1:05:44Yeah.
- 1:05:51Unfortunately, I think you're right,
- 1:05:52but I think they need to have their
- 1:05:53hands on it.
- 1:05:55Cause I think like Bob and Joe are
- 1:05:57programming already next year for the
- 1:06:00games.
- 1:06:01And it seemed like that was what I
- 1:06:05think was Dave that said that maybe on
- 1:06:06one of the weekend reviews that,
- 1:06:10that they were going to have it again
- 1:06:11next year.
- 1:06:13And I just don't see them being in
- 1:06:15the same location as the CrossFit games.
- 1:06:17Cause now you have to go around the
- 1:06:18scheduling there.
- 1:06:19Are you talking about the same weekend or
- 1:06:21just same location?
- 1:06:22Yeah.
- 1:06:24I'm S I was,
- 1:06:25when I said it same location,
- 1:06:26I meant like the first part of the
- 1:06:28week.
- 1:06:29Agreed.
- 1:06:30And then it would turn over to the
- 1:06:31elites at the end of the week.
- 1:06:34No, I don't think so.
- 1:06:35Not when you have different pro not when
- 1:06:37you have outside programmers.
- 1:06:39I don't, I don't see that happening.
- 1:06:40Well,
- 1:06:40maybe he would step in and like review
- 1:06:43their programming or give them,
- 1:06:46give them some guidance.
- 1:06:50Which is what is needed.
- 1:06:51They need some, I say fiction on that.
- 1:06:55So I didn't put this in Factor Fiction,
- 1:06:56but I want to have this discussion because
- 1:06:59I threw it out to Jamie.
- 1:07:00And as much as I love the Masters
- 1:07:02community and everything about the
- 1:07:03Masters,
- 1:07:05I think the only way it survives is
- 1:07:08to turn it into ten-year divisions.
- 1:07:12There's just too many heats for that
- 1:07:15event.
- 1:07:16So you go thirty five to forty four,
- 1:07:19forty five to fifty four,
- 1:07:21fifty five to sixty four and sixty five
- 1:07:24plus.
- 1:07:29I actually think that's a good idea.
- 1:07:31I haven't heard that one before, but.
- 1:07:35Yeah,
- 1:07:35it's going to look like those people in
- 1:07:36the older age groups are going to get
- 1:07:38discouraged that they're not training for
- 1:07:40anything like specifically.
- 1:07:46I think it's a good idea of like
- 1:07:49viewership wise.
- 1:07:53But it's hard because I do think that
- 1:07:56people love the four year gaps and.
- 1:07:58But that's what I would say is.
- 1:08:02I would argue that that's what MFC and
- 1:08:05winter legends is for the,
- 1:08:07to build through that.
- 1:08:08And like you get in your five-year
- 1:08:09bracket, you get your experience and yeah,
- 1:08:12you might have two,
- 1:08:13three years off where you aren't making it
- 1:08:14to the games, but.
- 1:08:16Okay.
- 1:08:17That's yeah.
- 1:08:18I like that idea.
- 1:08:18Yeah.
- 1:08:20This is just for the games because it's
- 1:08:23special.
- 1:08:23Yeah.
- 1:08:24Yep.
- 1:08:24And then you have these under MFC legends
- 1:08:30or whatever, all the masters one.
- 1:08:33And those you can have like the four-year
- 1:08:37divisions.
- 1:08:39Yeah.
- 1:08:40But I think that requires it going back
- 1:08:42to CrossFit and CrossFit running the whole
- 1:08:44thing.
- 1:08:46And it means something.
- 1:08:48They get the gear, they get all the,
- 1:08:51they get the kits, they get that, like,
- 1:08:52that's what they need.
- 1:08:54Same amount of people?
- 1:08:57Yeah.
- 1:08:58I mean, it'd probably be what, like,
- 1:09:01Which would have equated to the two,
- 1:09:03twenty person groups.
- 1:09:05Forty.
- 1:09:06You're going to get some trickle in from
- 1:09:08the forty year old into the end of
- 1:09:11the.
- 1:09:12I don't I don't think we go up
- 1:09:13to forty again.
- 1:09:14I don't.
- 1:09:15Because then you just have the same.
- 1:09:17You're adding the heat back in.
- 1:09:19Like, I think it has to be twenty.
- 1:09:22Twenty.
- 1:09:23No more than twenty.
- 1:09:25Yeah.
- 1:09:26I don't know.
- 1:09:28Can't be more than twenty.
- 1:09:30Too many heats.
- 1:09:31It's boring.
- 1:09:33It's repetitive.
- 1:09:35No one wants to watch it unless you're
- 1:09:37family.
- 1:09:38It wouldn't be.
- 1:09:39It'd be half of what we just had.
- 1:09:44If you want.
- 1:09:45Forty?
- 1:09:46We just had forty.
- 1:09:48You just had thirty.
- 1:09:53Is that all we had?
- 1:09:54It wasn't forty?
- 1:09:56So it'd be half of last year's.
- 1:09:59That was forty.
- 1:10:03I think two heats.
- 1:10:03So whether it's like heats of twelve and
- 1:10:06you can do it twenty-four maybe,
- 1:10:08but I still think thirty's a lot.
- 1:10:12Yeah, I think for the games, again,
- 1:10:14for the games only,
- 1:10:16you have to get the heats down.
- 1:10:18You have to make it watchable and
- 1:10:20palatable.
- 1:10:21And I think the only way to do
- 1:10:23that is to reduce the divisions and reduce
- 1:10:27no more than two heats a division.
- 1:10:34but i think with that it comes the
- 1:10:37responsibility that you have to clean up
- 1:10:39the qualification aspect of it you can't
- 1:10:43just go with no review over anything over
- 1:10:46or anything
- 1:11:01The reason I didn't go with that, Larry,
- 1:11:04is I think fifty fifty five is where
- 1:11:06the open changes weights.
- 1:11:09So if you kept it at the fives,
- 1:11:12it's streamlines it because fifty five
- 1:11:14goes to lighter weights,
- 1:11:16different gymnastics movements after that.
- 1:11:19So if you stay with the ten starting
- 1:11:21at five,
- 1:11:22you keep it in line with that scaling.
- 1:11:25Yeah.
- 1:11:28I understand his thought process there,
- 1:11:30and I somewhat agree, but yes,
- 1:11:33unless they switch to the weight changes
- 1:11:36over at fifty, it wouldn't make sense.
- 1:11:42I don't mind the forty to fifty,
- 1:11:44and if you're in your thirties,
- 1:11:46you're still going for the Indy,
- 1:11:49but I think that having top thirty-five to
- 1:11:53thirty-nine year olds,
- 1:11:54the level of
- 1:11:57fitness is just better to watch like in
- 1:12:00the master's division which i don't know
- 1:12:08uh andrew stan do you think the scaling
- 1:12:10will have to change as athletes like grub
- 1:12:13age up it it's it's that age old
- 1:12:18question is he open for the tip of
- 1:12:21the spear or is he open for everybody
- 1:12:24And I think that's where it shouldn't
- 1:12:27matter who at the tip of the spear
- 1:12:29is getting there.
- 1:12:30You should be programming for the top
- 1:12:36twenty five percent of the people in that
- 1:12:37age group or whatever,
- 1:12:39whatever you think the next phase is.
- 1:12:47Yeah.
- 1:12:47But I also don't think that you have
- 1:12:48to concentrate on one outlier.
- 1:12:50because it can skew the whole division and
- 1:12:54all of a sudden it's not fun to
- 1:12:55watch because no one's doing it.
- 1:12:57Exactly.
- 1:12:59If he's the only one that's just so
- 1:13:01far ahead,
- 1:13:02he's going to be faster anyways
- 1:13:03regardless.
- 1:13:06Yeah.
- 1:13:11Remind me again if TRT is allowed.
- 1:13:15That is a complicated answer.
- 1:13:19CRT is allowed.
- 1:13:21It is allowed,
- 1:13:23but you have to be in a range.
- 1:13:25No, it's not.
- 1:13:25It's not allowed.
- 1:13:26It's not allowed.
- 1:13:28You wouldn't test positive is what you're
- 1:13:29trying to say.
- 1:13:31It's still not allowed.
- 1:13:32You can't do it.
- 1:13:33You can't do it just until you're at
- 1:13:35the max.
- 1:13:36That's still doing an external thing into
- 1:13:40your body.
- 1:13:41It's not allowed.
- 1:13:45Even if you're within range and you have
- 1:13:47low, you're not allowed to do that.
- 1:13:50I'm pretty sure you can't even get a
- 1:13:51therapeutic use exemption for it,
- 1:13:53even if you were super low.
- 1:13:59Slop says there was a medical exemption.
- 1:14:02You can get a THU, maybe.
- 1:14:04I don't know how that works.
- 1:14:07I had a master's athlete on talking about
- 1:14:09how it was allowed with a medical
- 1:14:12exemption.
- 1:14:16So I don't know.
- 1:14:18It's one thousand percent used and with
- 1:14:21people not having therapeutic usage or
- 1:14:24they just are trying to get that.
- 1:14:27But they're just not testing enough for
- 1:14:30it.
- 1:14:30Right.
- 1:14:32And it's hard to detect, I'm assuming,
- 1:14:35if we aren't having... Well,
- 1:14:36if you still fall within the range,
- 1:14:38you're not going to pop for it.
- 1:14:39But I think you would need a better
- 1:14:42test to distinguish between natural and
- 1:14:44synthetic or whatever.
- 1:14:46Yes.
- 1:14:46they're not going to pay for that high
- 1:14:48end test.
- 1:14:48Yeah.
- 1:14:49So extra sloppy says, yeah,
- 1:14:53they sent me a whole thing.
- 1:14:55I had to give them my labs and
- 1:14:56all of that.
- 1:14:59See CrossFit is saying one for TRT is
- 1:15:01not allowed.
- 1:15:02And that was, that was my,
- 1:15:04I was under the same impression that,
- 1:15:06that, that TRT is not allowed.
- 1:15:08Even if you were super low and the
- 1:15:12doctor told you,
- 1:15:13you needed to be on it.
- 1:15:15Like,
- 1:15:16You basically,
- 1:15:17if that's what you choose to do,
- 1:15:18you're taking yourself out of the games.
- 1:15:22TRT, peptides, all that.
- 1:15:29There's a therapeutic use exemption right
- 1:15:31on the CrossFit page.
- 1:15:32Yeah, many things can fall under that.
- 1:15:34Like people's asthma thingy can fall under
- 1:15:36that.
- 1:15:36Right, right.
- 1:15:42Well, I'll look into it.
- 1:15:43Maybe we'll talk about it next week if
- 1:15:45Rogue is boring.
- 1:15:46It won't be boring.
- 1:15:52All right.
- 1:15:52Well,
- 1:15:52that ends Factor Fiction for this week.
- 1:15:56Next week,
- 1:15:56I'll try to come up with Pen, Pencil,
- 1:15:58and Sharpie because everybody seems to be
- 1:16:01so enamored with it.
- 1:16:03They're answering that way in the
- 1:16:04comments.
- 1:16:07Extra Sloppy will forward me the email.
- 1:16:09Okay.
- 1:16:11Alright, cool.
- 1:16:13So Rogue preview.
- 1:16:16We already talked about Katie's interview.
- 1:16:18Preview the field.
- 1:16:19Anybody you see that you think has an
- 1:16:22advantage this week at Rogue?
- 1:16:31I think Pat is going to do well.
- 1:16:33I think he's been on the trending up
- 1:16:36with WFP and
- 1:16:40Tierra Wadapalooza.
- 1:16:42And he just does well at Rogue.
- 1:16:45I think he's going to do well.
- 1:16:48I'm curious to see how Gazan's going to
- 1:16:50do.
- 1:16:51First time that we're going to see her
- 1:16:52back after NorCal.
- 1:16:54She was crushing it prior.
- 1:16:56She's someone that can do very well at
- 1:17:00Rogue with her strength,
- 1:17:03her brute strength and stuff like that.
- 1:17:05So curious to see how she'll do.
- 1:17:09um i i do agree pat pat's someone
- 1:17:11that's just consistent at rogue like he's
- 1:17:14he does well there chandler always does
- 1:17:16well at rogue yeah is danny going back
- 1:17:23i think danny is yeah um yeah because
- 1:17:28the people they had on the bus are
- 1:17:30all like on the plane that's right were
- 1:17:32people that were so yeah danny is there
- 1:17:33oh yeah i mean yeah she's yep
- 1:17:37And then I'm,
- 1:17:38I'm excited to see Jeff because he skipped
- 1:17:43WFP.
- 1:17:43I'm hoping that he is, you know,
- 1:17:47back to his normal self.
- 1:17:50He just didn't seem like himself at the
- 1:17:51games.
- 1:17:52So if he can get back to that,
- 1:17:55to that place, I'm excited in that.
- 1:17:57And that's going to be exciting going into
- 1:17:59the next season.
- 1:18:03so i'm going to move ahead to kind
- 1:18:06of my picks just because it's who i
- 1:18:09think is going to do well okay so
- 1:18:12my podium is are these three individuals i
- 1:18:15i don't know the exact order yet but
- 1:18:18i think they're they're all motivated for
- 1:18:19different reasons and the first one is
- 1:18:23jeff adler i think he needs to do
- 1:18:25well
- 1:18:26After what happened at the games,
- 1:18:28what happened at the first stop on WFP
- 1:18:30and not being able to compete in the
- 1:18:31second one, he just needs to do well.
- 1:18:34I think the second person that is going
- 1:18:36to do well is James Sprague.
- 1:18:39I think it is the one competition that
- 1:18:41he has struggled to do well on,
- 1:18:44and he wants to prove to the other
- 1:18:45boys that he can compete with them at
- 1:18:48Rogue.
- 1:18:49So I think he has extra motivation.
- 1:18:51But this is kind of my...
- 1:18:56Out there pick.
- 1:18:57And I think he's going to win it.
- 1:19:00Is Justin.
- 1:19:02I think Justin Medeiros.
- 1:19:04Is motivated to get back.
- 1:19:05He's won it twice.
- 1:19:07He wants to go back and get on
- 1:19:08top.
- 1:19:09And I think he is doing everything in
- 1:19:11his power.
- 1:19:12To train for this event.
- 1:19:15And he's done everything the last.
- 1:19:17Six to eight weeks to do that.
- 1:19:19I would love to see him do well.
- 1:19:21Love it.
- 1:19:22And so that is my pick to come
- 1:19:24out of.
- 1:19:25Out of nowhere to win is Justin Medeiros.
- 1:19:30The two-time Rogue champ.
- 1:19:35Yeah.
- 1:19:35Yeah, I don't know.
- 1:19:36That's a tough one for me.
- 1:19:37I feel like, I mean, I don't know.
- 1:19:41Out of your boys interrupted,
- 1:19:44I almost feel like Hopper's going to do
- 1:19:47the best.
- 1:19:51He just doesn't need to.
- 1:19:53He doesn't need to,
- 1:19:53but I think he wants to make a
- 1:19:55statement.
- 1:19:56I think in this season of so much
- 1:19:58activity, you have to look at motivation.
- 1:20:00And that's why I went in that direction.
- 1:20:03And the three people I think are motivated
- 1:20:05the most to do well are Adler, Sprague,
- 1:20:08and Medeiros.
- 1:20:11Colton's going to be there, right?
- 1:20:13Yeah.
- 1:20:16That event just does not fit his skill
- 1:20:18set.
- 1:20:18Yeah.
- 1:20:18Yeah.
- 1:20:20He might, I think he might,
- 1:20:22he always has,
- 1:20:23he always has a few events that depending
- 1:20:26on the programming, like he can kind of,
- 1:20:29it can line up for him sometimes.
- 1:20:37Do you have girl picks or just boys?
- 1:20:41Uh, well, I just was starting with boys.
- 1:20:44Um,
- 1:20:47my internet's down on my laptop,
- 1:20:49so I can't see the girls, um,
- 1:20:51that I had the boys up.
- 1:20:52So that one was easy.
- 1:20:54Um, on the girl's side, I,
- 1:21:00I know that I was thinking Emma Lawson.
- 1:21:01Okay.
- 1:21:03Uh,
- 1:21:03because it's been a long season for her.
- 1:21:06Yeah.
- 1:21:06She's,
- 1:21:07you saw in the last WFP tour stop,
- 1:21:09she was getting a little bit better.
- 1:21:11Um,
- 1:21:14I think Horvat's going to do well because
- 1:21:16she always does well at Rogue.
- 1:21:17I agree.
- 1:21:18It's not just Rogue.
- 1:21:19She always does well.
- 1:21:20She's better than the field.
- 1:21:23WFP has not been great for her this
- 1:21:24year.
- 1:21:25Just one event.
- 1:21:28She's strong, though.
- 1:21:31One bad event.
- 1:21:32But she hasn't podiumed at either one.
- 1:21:35Has she?
- 1:21:36She literally just won.
- 1:21:39She won the last one.
- 1:21:41She won Tours Top Two?
- 1:21:44Yeah.
- 1:21:45Emma Tall was second,
- 1:21:48and Amy Kringle is third place.
- 1:21:52Okay.
- 1:21:52Well, I'll take that back.
- 1:21:53She's going to keep rolling,
- 1:21:54and Laura's going to win.
- 1:21:56I think Laura's going to win, Emma Lawson,
- 1:21:59and I'm going to go Ariel.
- 1:22:05Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
- 1:22:07I just don't know where Alex is on
- 1:22:10her rehab.
- 1:22:11I want to pick Alex.
- 1:22:14But I just don't know where she is.
- 1:22:15Yeah.
- 1:22:15I agree with Ariel.
- 1:22:18I think that's a solid pick.
- 1:22:20Yep.
- 1:22:21She's typically so consistent,
- 1:22:23like at any comp.
- 1:22:26Like she's only been a little bit off
- 1:22:28maybe like once in the last few years.
- 1:22:30But, you know,
- 1:22:33she's looking to do well here,
- 1:22:34just like Jeff's looking to do well here.
- 1:22:38On the men...
- 1:22:41I do like your Pat pick.
- 1:22:42I just feel like he's got some momentum.
- 1:22:47He's just rogue.
- 1:22:50Yeah, I'd say Jeff.
- 1:22:52I think he'll podium.
- 1:22:54Kind of like Brent from last year where
- 1:22:56Brent ended on the podium there and that
- 1:22:59solidified his last big comp.
- 1:23:03Doesn't it worry you that Pat can't lift
- 1:23:05things overhead?
- 1:23:07He can lift things overhead, Scott.
- 1:23:09It always seems to fail him and Rogue.
- 1:23:12His shoulder endurance.
- 1:23:15Yeah, I would agree,
- 1:23:16which is weird because like.
- 1:23:21Other like certain things that are kind of
- 1:23:24shoulder intensive, he's good at,
- 1:23:26but not like you had to do a
- 1:23:27bunch of jerks.
- 1:23:28I feel like he's going to fail.
- 1:23:34I still think he's in a podium.
- 1:23:37I think he's going to be on the
- 1:23:38podium.
- 1:23:38Jeff, Pat, and I can see Justin,
- 1:23:42but I'm going to say Jason.
- 1:23:44I'm going to say Jeff, Pat, and Jason.
- 1:23:48CrossFit asks,
- 1:23:48is there anything Pat can break or fall
- 1:23:50off of?
- 1:23:53That horizontal pegboard.
- 1:23:55It's not super high off the ground, but
- 1:23:59Have you guys seen Ariel's horizontal
- 1:24:00pegboard?
- 1:24:02Is that thing like not really high?
- 1:24:05Like it's really high.
- 1:24:06Yeah, it's high.
- 1:24:10I know it's kind of like a perfect
- 1:24:12place to put that off to the side
- 1:24:14and her new like little barn gym thing,
- 1:24:16but dang, it's up there.
- 1:24:18It's crazy to look at, you know,
- 1:24:21everyone's equipment right now and like
- 1:24:23what they're,
- 1:24:25what they've built in their gym.
- 1:24:26Like everyone's has built the log muscle.
- 1:24:29It seems like everyone has a horizontal
- 1:24:31pegboard at their gym.
- 1:24:32Now, um,
- 1:24:34a lot of people working with the log.
- 1:24:39Um, I saw, who was it?
- 1:24:40Lucy Campbell.
- 1:24:41She was at Emma McQuaid's gym and like
- 1:24:44working with the log and she sent a,
- 1:24:46or she had a picture that she put
- 1:24:47on her story of her,
- 1:24:48like falling with the log.
- 1:24:50I think, um,
- 1:24:52But a lot of people are, you know,
- 1:24:54a lot of times like it's what you
- 1:24:55have access to in these practices, right?
- 1:25:04Yes.
- 1:25:04So everyone I've seen,
- 1:25:04like they look pretty good on the,
- 1:25:07like they look like they're better than
- 1:25:09last year.
- 1:25:09Because last year,
- 1:25:10a lot of the field really struggled with
- 1:25:12that pegboard, right?
- 1:25:14Like that was brand new.
- 1:25:17Well, hopefully Haley's been practicing.
- 1:25:19We already heard Danielle wasn't
- 1:25:21practicing.
- 1:25:22Hasn't touched it since.
- 1:25:26Crazy.
- 1:25:32If you're a rogue athlete,
- 1:25:34do you buy it like a log?
- 1:25:36Do you buy... You can't buy it.
- 1:25:39Well, I mean,
- 1:25:39I guess I'm thinking the one you press.
- 1:25:44Oh, the big...
- 1:25:47Timber bar or whatever.
- 1:25:49Where you go to a gym that has
- 1:25:50it.
- 1:25:50Yeah.
- 1:25:51Cause like Jason bought one off a rogue.
- 1:25:56Now it's not the one they use at
- 1:25:57the, at the, the competition,
- 1:26:00but at least can like use it to
- 1:26:03practice.
- 1:26:04Yeah.
- 1:26:04Alexis was just,
- 1:26:06Raptus was just showing a video of her
- 1:26:08doing those like clean and jerks with it.
- 1:26:10Cause Anne was just working out with a
- 1:26:13couple of strong man people doing the log
- 1:26:16as well.
- 1:26:16Yup.
- 1:26:19Yeah.
- 1:26:20I mean, I think there's a,
- 1:26:21there's such an advantage to getting some
- 1:26:23reps on it.
- 1:26:23Right.
- 1:26:24And for sure.
- 1:26:25That's why like Katie posted a picture of
- 1:26:28a few things.
- 1:26:29Cause those are implements.
- 1:26:30I think that they want the athletes to
- 1:26:31look a little bit better on maybe this
- 1:26:33year.
- 1:26:34So they're like, Hey,
- 1:26:35go and practice these.
- 1:26:38Um, CrossFit says Dallin,
- 1:26:39Justin and Jason.
- 1:26:40Oh, they're all rogue athletes.
- 1:26:42Yeah.
- 1:26:42So they have,
- 1:26:43they have like their gift cards or their
- 1:26:45stipend that they can buy those cool toys.
- 1:26:48Right.
- 1:26:48Does that give people like people an
- 1:26:50advantage?
- 1:26:53I mean, anytime you have equipment.
- 1:26:54Yeah.
- 1:26:54Yeah.
- 1:26:55Cause we really only know three things
- 1:26:57that are, that are there right now.
- 1:26:59But if you have certain rogue equipment
- 1:27:01like that,
- 1:27:03that you're used to playing with, like,
- 1:27:05I feel like that, that would help.
- 1:27:08Because what do we know?
- 1:27:08It's bench, the pegboard, and the log.
- 1:27:12Yep.
- 1:27:13Yeah.
- 1:27:15When Boys Interrupted seemed to think that
- 1:27:16was all going to be one event.
- 1:27:19I didn't take it.
- 1:27:20I didn't read into it that it was
- 1:27:21one event.
- 1:27:22I read into it that, hey,
- 1:27:23these three things are coming with us.
- 1:27:27But they read into it that, hey,
- 1:27:29it's one event.
- 1:27:31I don't think it matters.
- 1:27:31I think regardless, you...
- 1:27:34People come up with combinations.
- 1:27:35They put them together.
- 1:27:36They put them separate.
- 1:27:37Like you just get touches on them now.
- 1:27:39Yep.
- 1:27:40Anytime any clues happen.
- 1:27:43I just wonder when they're going to
- 1:27:44release the workouts.
- 1:27:46In the past,
- 1:27:46I think they've done it like the Monday
- 1:27:48of the comp.
- 1:27:49There's one year where we found them out
- 1:27:50there.
- 1:27:51I think it was like twenty twenty one
- 1:27:53or was like very, very secret.
- 1:27:55And then other years was like the Monday
- 1:27:57of the competition.
- 1:28:04some events released, hopefully.
- 1:28:11The other thing Katie talked about in the
- 1:28:12interview was how much they care about
- 1:28:16leaks and how adamant they are about it.
- 1:28:19And the whole time I'm thinking, well,
- 1:28:21Carolyn didn't even tell us when she was
- 1:28:23testing events.
- 1:28:25And I won't even ask her because I
- 1:28:26know she won't tell me anyway.
- 1:28:29But it's really cool that
- 1:28:33knowing that in the past two years,
- 1:28:36Carolyn had tested workouts and she
- 1:28:39wouldn't even tell us like, and the,
- 1:28:43and so it is a secret up until
- 1:28:46the event.
- 1:28:46And I know that the Carolyn is so
- 1:28:49as much as Katie cares about the event
- 1:28:51and that it being fair,
- 1:28:53Carolyn cares the same amount.
- 1:28:57Yeah.
- 1:28:57Cause I don't,
- 1:28:58I don't tell anyone if I'm testing.
- 1:28:59Yeah.
- 1:29:00Right.
- 1:29:00Yeah.
- 1:29:01We know.
- 1:29:02And the only reason people knew is because
- 1:29:04I,
- 1:29:04she posted a picture of me last year.
- 1:29:05Right.
- 1:29:06Cause or else like, it's not,
- 1:29:08I don't want anyone to know.
- 1:29:09And it's reaching out to you.
- 1:29:11Yeah.
- 1:29:11Yeah.
- 1:29:11I mean,
- 1:29:11not that I would say anything anyways,
- 1:29:13but like, I don't,
- 1:29:14and I just want to do well when
- 1:29:15I test,
- 1:29:15I want to give them good feedback too.
- 1:29:17And like,
- 1:29:18I care about the test almost as much
- 1:29:20as they do because like,
- 1:29:22I've seen the test and I'm like,
- 1:29:25feel like they could do this or i
- 1:29:27would be like way lower here you know
- 1:29:29you try to get feedback but then you
- 1:29:31see it put and you because you care
- 1:29:33about them asking you to test like you
- 1:29:35want to make sure that they get it
- 1:29:37right because you know that they're trying
- 1:29:39to get it right so yeah no i
- 1:29:41do care with this um grant says i
- 1:29:44want to try log muscle ups have you
- 1:29:47two ladies ever done them i never have
- 1:29:49i would love to try them
- 1:29:53One of my favorite movements,
- 1:29:55so I would like them.
- 1:29:58I mean,
- 1:29:58I competed at Rogue when we had them,
- 1:30:00and then I tested them.
- 1:30:04How much harder are they?
- 1:30:07You have to change the way you kip.
- 1:30:08Yeah, they're hard.
- 1:30:11I did well.
- 1:30:12The year I had, I think,
- 1:30:15were they there both years of my Rogue
- 1:30:17Imitation?
- 1:30:17I'm trying to think if I did it.
- 1:30:21Yeah, I remember...
- 1:30:25I know I did it in twenty twenty
- 1:30:27two.
- 1:30:27I don't know if they were there in
- 1:30:28twenty.
- 1:30:29I don't think they were there in twenty
- 1:30:30twenty one.
- 1:30:31I don't think so either.
- 1:30:37They were there two years or.
- 1:30:41I forget they were there last year and.
- 1:30:45Definitely the year before,
- 1:30:47but they're hard.
- 1:30:49They're hard.
- 1:30:49Yeah.
- 1:30:53Yeah.
- 1:30:58Yeah, we are past time.
- 1:31:01The only other piece of news that I
- 1:31:02did want to touch on real quick,
- 1:31:04and then we'll get out of here,
- 1:31:05is there are events that are announcing
- 1:31:08times that fall within the CrossFit Games
- 1:31:10season,
- 1:31:11typically at the time of semifinals,
- 1:31:14but no formal announcement has been made
- 1:31:17on...
- 1:31:19on them as no formal announcement has been
- 1:31:22made on who is going to be a
- 1:31:23semi-final,
- 1:31:24but the French Throwdown announced dates
- 1:31:26in that window.
- 1:31:28MadFit, which used to be the Madrid event,
- 1:31:35MadFit is in those events.
- 1:31:36Copasor,
- 1:31:37which has typically been a semi-final.
- 1:31:40And NorCal,
- 1:31:42which we knew previously to this week.
- 1:31:45But those four have all announced dates
- 1:31:47within that semifinal timeframe.
- 1:31:50So we might be getting an indication of
- 1:31:52what is going to be on tap for
- 1:31:53semifinals as an option.
- 1:31:58But hopefully on one of these CrossFit
- 1:32:00Games podcast episodes,
- 1:32:03the Sport of Fitness podcast,
- 1:32:05we'll get one of those announcements in
- 1:32:06the next week or two.
- 1:32:08Have...
- 1:32:09With, like, Copasor and French Jordan,
- 1:32:13has there been...
- 1:32:14Because I know Copasor last year was,
- 1:32:17like, region-blocked.
- 1:32:18Is there an announcement of dates?
- 1:32:22Did they say anything about that?
- 1:32:23No,
- 1:32:23because they didn't say anything about the
- 1:32:25Grouse Vague games.
- 1:32:26I see.
- 1:32:32But in Dave's week in reviews and the
- 1:32:34questions he's been asked,
- 1:32:36he has not seemed...
- 1:32:39poised to make that change.
- 1:32:46To make them not be region based.
- 1:32:50Right.
- 1:32:51He doesn't seem to like,
- 1:32:53he's going to let them do what they
- 1:32:54want to do.
- 1:32:55However they want to.
- 1:32:55Yeah.
- 1:32:58Hmm.
- 1:33:00I think that it was just confusing.
- 1:33:03Some were open, some were not.
- 1:33:04Yeah, that's not right.
- 1:33:05And it does not lead to getting the
- 1:33:08correct thirty people to the games.
- 1:33:11You can't limit that.
- 1:33:15Yeah, I agree.
- 1:33:18But I don't think we can really start
- 1:33:20bitching about it until we know if it's
- 1:33:22a fact or not or fact or fiction.
- 1:33:27Yep.
- 1:33:32I think they either need all of them
- 1:33:35to geo or not.
- 1:33:38Yeah.
- 1:33:39Yeah.
- 1:33:40I think they all need to have a
- 1:33:41geographic wall or none.
- 1:33:43Right.
- 1:33:47Yeah.
- 1:33:49None.
- 1:33:49I also think you should cap the number
- 1:33:52that people can attend.
- 1:33:54But with the last chance qualifier being
- 1:33:55after,
- 1:33:56it's like you have your one and then
- 1:33:57you have last chance qualifier.
- 1:33:58Yeah.
- 1:33:58Yeah.
- 1:34:00You know,
- 1:34:01that's already more than what we had prior
- 1:34:03in years.
- 1:34:04Yeah.
- 1:34:05I mean, these regions are,
- 1:34:06more people are at them, but yeah.
- 1:34:10I also, for the event, I mean,
- 1:34:11I could even go to two,
- 1:34:13but when people were like three and
- 1:34:15fouring it, like that was just too much.
- 1:34:18I do want the event organizers to get
- 1:34:20good fields to bring people into the
- 1:34:23seats.
- 1:34:25So I understand that, but man,
- 1:34:27it was too much last year.
- 1:34:28Just way too much.
- 1:34:35She was okay.
- 1:34:37Yeah.
- 1:34:38That's probably it for me.
- 1:34:39So, all right, guys.
- 1:34:39I'm going to hit the rack.
- 1:34:41Got to get to work tomorrow.
- 1:34:43Just a reminder,
- 1:34:44I got scheduled a meeting during my lunch
- 1:34:46time tomorrow.
- 1:34:48So,
- 1:34:48I will not be on for lunch with
- 1:34:49the Clydesdale until maybe one o'clock.
- 1:34:53But I'm also having my car fixed.
- 1:34:55So, hopefully...
- 1:34:57Hopefully I can get on at one o'clock
- 1:34:58tomorrow.
- 1:34:59If not, we'll see you on Tuesday.
- 1:35:02And don't forget Caroline Klutz will be
- 1:35:04with me on Wednesday's episode of Lunch
- 1:35:07with Clydesdale.
- 1:35:08And we'll ask her whether she had the
- 1:35:10option to go elite or masters.
- 1:35:13We'll ask her how she felt about her
- 1:35:15performance.
- 1:35:16And we'll ask her if she made a
- 1:35:18ten thousand dollar mistake.
- 1:35:21But we're going to talk about a lot
- 1:35:22of other stuff.
- 1:35:24Because I've changed those from being
- 1:35:25interviews to just being conversations.
- 1:35:28And so we're just going to talk about
- 1:35:30whatever she wants to talk about in
- 1:35:31addition to that.
- 1:35:33With that,
- 1:35:34we'll see everybody either tomorrow or
- 1:35:37Tuesday.
- 1:35:40And bye.