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Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 9-30-26 with Doc, Suzi and Bill · Dave Kroupa (DOC)'s show

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  Speaker 5: Yeah Yeah, oh yeah, what.
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  Speaker 6: Condition my condition was in.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to Dr. Krupa's Natural Health Hours. It is
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  Speaker 2: the 30th of September. The weather has cooled a tiny bit.
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  Speaker 2: It was like 97 degrees. in the sun in my
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  Speaker 2: backyard when I walked in here. It's 89 in the
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  Speaker 2: shade in the front yard, which hasn't had the sun
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  Speaker 2: on in hours, so it cools down much more. But
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  Speaker 2: the backyard is still 97 degrees, and you know it
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  Speaker 2: when you go out there. And the humidity's still pretty high,
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  Speaker 2: so not fun. But anyway, we are all here, Susie, Bill,
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  Speaker 2: and myself. We're live on Rumble, and we're all on Zoom.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll go ahead and let everybody say hello to you, Suzy.
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  Speaker 7: Hello, everyone. Thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 3: Howdy, folks.
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  Speaker 2: All righty. So we are all here. Tonight, we are
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about medical tests and also being referred
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  Speaker 2: to specialists, as they like to call themselves. And I'll
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  Speaker 2: give you my experiences. And, you know, when we do
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  Speaker 2: this stuff... I do not wish to change your mind.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to give you input and experience and
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  Speaker 2: let you make your decision with maybe a little more
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  Speaker 2: information than you had before. And the same with Susie
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  Speaker 2: and Bill. We all bring to the table a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of stuff. I have been practicing... either as an
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  Speaker 2: intern or a licensed doctor. I started all this back
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  Speaker 2: in 95 for medical school and three years before that,
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  Speaker 2: doing pre-med for three years, where pre-med usually takes a
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  Speaker 2: couple years, but it took me three because I was
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  Speaker 2: working full-time. So I've been at this a long time,
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  Speaker 2: and you learn a lot of things no matter what.
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  Speaker 2: So you don't have to be smart You just have
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  Speaker 2: to pay attention. And when it comes to medical tests,
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  Speaker 2: in the early days in my office, we did saliva tests.
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  Speaker 2: We did hair analysis. We did urinalysis. We did x-rays,
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes we sent out for an MRI. And I
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  Speaker 2: even foolishly bought an x-ray machine and had it installed
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  Speaker 2: in my first office ever. And that was a nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: This was many years ago, and it cost $ 75 a
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  Speaker 2: month to have it maintained by a professional person that
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  Speaker 2: could come in and certify everything. I had met doctors
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  Speaker 2: that I'd worked with one when I was an intern
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  Speaker 2: that tried to do his own, but he gotten a
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  Speaker 2: lot of trouble when they came in and inspected. So
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  Speaker 2: I learned not to do that. But the problem is
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  Speaker 2: you do need an x-ray on every patient you see
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  Speaker 2: just to have a base because the state wants you
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  Speaker 2: to do that. A lot of times you don't need it,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not a bad thing to have it as
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  Speaker 2: a baseline to The MRIs, most of the time, if
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  Speaker 2: I sent somebody for that, it was for their peace
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  Speaker 2: of mind or to show them what I've been talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Because sometimes they don't quite let it sink in. And
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  Speaker 2: when they see the MRI, they understand. So I had
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  Speaker 2: an x-ray machine in the office. I don't remember how long.
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  Speaker 2: And finally, I realized it was costing me a fortune
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  Speaker 2: to And being a small office, I had to do
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  Speaker 2: all my own x-rays and all my own developing. Because
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  Speaker 2: back then, everything was not digital. Today, you can get
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  Speaker 2: a digital system and all that stuff's over with. But
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  Speaker 2: $ 75 a month, and I had to take time to
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  Speaker 2: go develop, shoot the x-rays, all that stuff. And at
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  Speaker 2: one point, it just finally was not worth it. So
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  Speaker 2: I sold the system and got rid of it. Good riddance.
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  Speaker 2: but as far as the test, now sometimes people, they
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  Speaker 2: almost insist on a test. They're all commercialed to death
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  Speaker 2: with TV commercials on what you need and what you
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  Speaker 2: ought to be doing, and they've Google doctored everything, and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of times they just think they already know everything,
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  Speaker 2: and they still come to see me, which never made
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  Speaker 2: any sense, but I found after... doing tons of blood work,
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  Speaker 2: saliva tests, hair analysis, urinalysis, that I learned so much
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  Speaker 2: more if we just sat down and listened to the patient.
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  Speaker 2: They would tell me what was wrong. They didn't understand
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  Speaker 2: many times what was wrong, but they knew what to
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  Speaker 2: tell me, so I knew what was wrong. And then
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  Speaker 2: with a few treatments... we figured out pretty quick exactly
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  Speaker 2: what was going on and then people got better. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think I ever had anybody not get better. Thank
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  Speaker 2: God for that. Um, I was blessed. It was just
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  Speaker 2: all this kind of stuff just came to me naturally. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I learned a basic amount when we were in medical school.
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  Speaker 2: I learned more working in, uh, uh, school I guess
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  Speaker 2: you call it clinic as an intern that's where we
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  Speaker 2: learned a lot of things but where you really learned
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  Speaker 2: was in your own practice with nobody to turn to
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  Speaker 2: but you and you listen to the patients and they
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  Speaker 2: make you look smart if you swallow your pride and
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  Speaker 2: remember that they know a lot more about their body
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  Speaker 2: than you do a lot of doctors it was me
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  Speaker 2: doctor you not and patients don't like that And it
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't be that way. So what I did very quickly
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  Speaker 2: was we quit doing blood work and all those tests.
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  Speaker 2: And I found out with the blood work, not one
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  Speaker 2: time did the lab work come back and make me
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  Speaker 2: change my mind of what we were going to do
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  Speaker 2: from listening to the patient. It would never change the thing.
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  Speaker 2: The hair analysis, this and hair analysis, you, you did
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  Speaker 2: more of that for hormonal stuff, saliva tests, kind of
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  Speaker 2: the same thing, blood work, because people know that, and
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  Speaker 2: they want to see those numbers, even though they don't
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  Speaker 2: mean anything, really, um, by the time most of your
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  Speaker 2: numbers and blood work are really in trouble, you already
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  Speaker 2: know that something's really bad, um, And the big panic,
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  Speaker 2: I was watching a baseball game a couple days ago,
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  Speaker 2: and in the back wall advertising, and they run a
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  Speaker 2: digital ad to the game, it said, September is cholesterol month.
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  Speaker 2: Get educated about bad cholesterol. Check in with your doctor now.
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  Speaker 2: And it's so sad because cholesterol, to me, is one
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  Speaker 2: of the biggest scams ever proved. Because everybody now knows, well,
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  Speaker 2: most people now know, that cholesterol's always been a good guy.
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  Speaker 2: And if it was in your bloodstream by a larger
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  Speaker 2: number or you had plaquing, it was because... your nutritional
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  Speaker 2: health of the arteries, veins, and capillaries was in bad shape,
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  Speaker 2: and the body was taking cholesterol and running around patching things,
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  Speaker 2: trying to make sure you didn't have a blowout and
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  Speaker 2: save your life. And the Western medicine guys at the
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  Speaker 2: pharmacy decided, we'll tell everybody the enemy is cholesterol. And
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't. The enemy was things like natural vitamin C,
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  Speaker 2: natural vitamin E, good things that kept your arteries, veins,
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  Speaker 2: and capillaries healthy. But they didn't want you to know that.
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  Speaker 2: And so big money, a lot of money to be
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  Speaker 2: made on cholesterol meds and shutting down your liver. And
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  Speaker 2: then something else came up because Susie and I were
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  Speaker 2: talking about a patient that went to an ER and
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  Speaker 2: Usually in an ER, if you need somebody that specializes
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  Speaker 2: in something, they've got them on call. So if it's
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  Speaker 2: really important and you're in the emergency room, they're going
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  Speaker 2: to have that on-call so-called specialist into the ER with
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  Speaker 2: you pretty quick. You're not going to leave, one, hopefully
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  Speaker 2: because they're good doctors and nurses and they care. And two,
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  Speaker 2: because the hospital's worried about lawsuits and legal crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But if you need a specialist, they're probably going to
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  Speaker 2: get him pretty quick. Now, what they don't tell people,
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  Speaker 2: especially when, like, I remember I've worked with a lot
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  Speaker 2: of patients who they could not be sure they had
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  Speaker 2: a fracture at the ER when they took an x-ray.
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  Speaker 2: But they didn't bother to explain to the patient that
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  Speaker 2: it takes a week to 10 days, sometimes two weeks
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  Speaker 2: for what they call little macrophages that come in where
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  Speaker 2: you might have a hairline fracture and clean that out
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  Speaker 2: so the body can start healing. And so that hairline
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  Speaker 2: fracture might not show up till the macrophages clean the
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  Speaker 2: area out and You take another picture a week, 10
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  Speaker 2: days later. Most of the time, those hairline fractures and
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  Speaker 2: things like that will heal on their own pretty well
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  Speaker 2: unless you're in bad health. And then if you get
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  Speaker 2: a crazy doctor like me that's giving you stuff to
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  Speaker 2: help heal better, it's going to heal even quicker. We
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  Speaker 2: had a young man, his mom worked for me as
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  Speaker 2: a therapist years ago. And he had an accident on
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  Speaker 2: a four-wheeler and he broke himself up pretty good. After that,
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  Speaker 2: his nickname was Broke Down. But it turned out that
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  Speaker 2: he needed an orthopedic surgeon because they had to go
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  Speaker 2: in and fix the broken leg. And the surgeon told me,
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  Speaker 2: we became friends later, he said, whatever you guys are doing,
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  Speaker 2: keep doing it because I've never seen broken bones heal
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  Speaker 2: that fast before. And he said, he was a young man,
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  Speaker 2: so he expected to heal pretty quick. But he said,
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  Speaker 2: never like what I saw. So what we do works.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm glad for that. And so I tell people,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think in a lot of cases you need
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  Speaker 2: a specialist. And if you do, he's either going to
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  Speaker 2: be in the ER or they're going to set something
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  Speaker 2: up pretty quick for you because you're broke up bad
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  Speaker 2: or something's wrong. Pretty major. They're not going to tell
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  Speaker 2: you okay, you're free to go and we think you
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  Speaker 2: ought to go see this specialist. Because if it's really bad,
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  Speaker 2: they would have had him in there and you wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have had to wait and wonder. So I'm the wrong
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  Speaker 2: doctor to ask about sending you for a test. I've
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  Speaker 2: sent a lot of people sometimes because they wanted it.
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  Speaker 2: One of the things I hated hearing was my wife
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  Speaker 2: or my mother or my sister or so and so
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  Speaker 2: wants me to go get this checked or they think
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  Speaker 2: I should have blood work or they're worried about my
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  Speaker 2: cholesterol and ridiculous absolutely ridiculous that people who love us
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  Speaker 2: want to subject us to what they think is good
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  Speaker 2: for us and and I often wondered I said you
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  Speaker 2: know it seems to me like everybody wants to be
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  Speaker 2: a doctor But nobody wants to go to school or
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  Speaker 2: practice for all those years and do all that continuing
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  Speaker 2: education and all that on-the-job learning from your patients. They
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  Speaker 2: just want to Google doctor and watch a TV commercial
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  Speaker 2: and then give advice. Well, you know, I've been doing
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  Speaker 2: this for a living for a long time. And I
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  Speaker 2: say this and mean it seriously. The more I do it,
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  Speaker 2: the dumber I feel because we're always learning something. You
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  Speaker 2: never know everything like you wish you did. And I've
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  Speaker 2: learned a lot of things from many patients over the years.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes it was a real eye-opener, embarrassment that I had
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  Speaker 2: to pick it up from them. But I learned. And
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  Speaker 2: every time I learned something made me a little better doctor.
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  Speaker 2: for the next patient that walked in the door so
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  Speaker 2: to sum it up pretty keeping it pretty sweet and
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  Speaker 2: simple i don't think you need all the tests but
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  Speaker 2: if you want them that's your choice and your money
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  Speaker 2: and your insurance uh i don't think you need all
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  Speaker 2: the specialists a lot of times there's kickbacks and feedbacks
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  Speaker 2: and loops and all the things that you don't know
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  Speaker 2: about and uh I think that's not a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: And a perfect example of all of this is those
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  Speaker 2: health fairs that people have all over the place. And
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  Speaker 2: many innocent, healthy people have gone to one of them
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  Speaker 2: health fairs and ended up getting very sick or dying
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  Speaker 2: because they got a hold of them, put them on
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  Speaker 2: special meds, sent them to other specialists, and took very healthy,
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  Speaker 2: wonderful people and shortened their lives drastically. So I'm not
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  Speaker 2: one to recommend that you go to those places. Don't
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  Speaker 2: do health fairs, and I wouldn't send you for all
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  Speaker 2: the tests. But if that's something you want to do,
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  Speaker 2: you have that right. I'm going to give you my
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  Speaker 2: opinion and the best advice I know how, which what
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  Speaker 2: I think is the best to help you stay healthy.
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  Speaker 2: And then the decisions are yours. And I support whatever
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  Speaker 2: you choose to do.
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  Speaker 3: Suzy?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, gosh, I'm the wrong student to call on. I
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  Speaker 7: didn't raise my hand, by the way. So 2007 and 8,
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  Speaker 7: I think I've told this story before. Something was, you know, bad, wrong.
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  Speaker 7: And I didn't know what it was. And so in
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  Speaker 7: a two-year period, I saw 17 doctors, and none of
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  Speaker 7: them could figure out what was wrong. And I have somewhere,
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  Speaker 7: it's that far away from me, I have a three-inch, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: three or four-inch, three-ring binder full of tests and test results.
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  Speaker 7: They were all inconclusive.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not even surprised. Did everybody examine you?
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  Speaker 7: Every single doctor that ordered tests did do an exam,
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  Speaker 7: if you will. It wasn't really an exam. It was talking.
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  Speaker 7: I had developed scar tissue adhesions, whatever, from Numerous surgeries,
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  Speaker 7: and I think the biggest culprit was the gallbladder. And
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  Speaker 7: horrible test, just horrible, dehumanizing, you know... just terrible, terrible test.
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  Speaker 7: And they were inconclusive. And, you know, I don't think
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  Speaker 7: that they're, it's kind of funny to me in a
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  Speaker 7: way that surgeons know their trade causes scar tissue. They
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  Speaker 7: have to know. I mean, it happened to Bill Clinton
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  Speaker 7: when he had open heart surgery. They had to go
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  Speaker 7: back in and remove scar tissue caused by the first surgery,
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  Speaker 7: which tells me the removal caused it too, but who knows?
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  Speaker 7: Maybe he got some special NASA space age kind of
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  Speaker 7: scar prevention, but scar tissue does not show up on imagery.
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  Speaker 7: Not even the MRNI. Now, apparently there's a machine in
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: Europe that will show scar tissue. Well, I came close
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  Speaker 7: to wanting to fly over there and see some German doctor,
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  Speaker 7: but didn't do it. But my point to this is
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  Speaker 7: 17 doctors, most all of them, I'll say a dozen
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  Speaker 7: of them ordered tests. And they were all inconclusive. And
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  Speaker 7: it was a fortune. It was a lot of money.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it almost makes me wish I was that other
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  Speaker 2: kind of doctor and you would have been my patient.
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  Speaker 2: I would be rich right now.
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  Speaker 7: You would.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, and that's the trouble with this. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure Bill will agree because he did a lot
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  Speaker 2: of patient work. If you're doing this just for money,
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  Speaker 2: that's the kind of stuff you do. But if you're
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: doing it just for money, you shouldn't be in this field. Bill,
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  Speaker 2: what do you think?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, you hit on several things that I think are
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  Speaker 8: really important. With all of these tests and stuff, I
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  Speaker 8: think so much of that is related to fear of lawsuits,
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  Speaker 8: and the insurance company want to make sure that their
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  Speaker 8: butt's covered by all of the stuff that is really
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  Speaker 8: not necessary, but You know, it keeps the money wheels growing.
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  Speaker 8: The other part of that is it's kind of like
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  Speaker 8: the weather service we were talking about earlier, that so
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  Speaker 8: much of our culture is run on statistical projection. They
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  Speaker 8: look at thousands of pieces of data and come up
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  Speaker 8: with probabilities. Does that have anything to do with reality? Well,
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  Speaker 8: certainly with the weather service, no. But we just way
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  Speaker 8: too much reliance on the technology and lack of human
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  Speaker 8: connection and the ability to listen. Like you were saying,
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  Speaker 8: it's just, um, being able to hear what a patient
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  Speaker 8: is telling you and being able to ask the right questions.
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  Speaker 8: I think listening is part of it, but being able
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  Speaker 8: to ask the right questions to get the information that
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  Speaker 8: you need to proceed is a skill that most, most
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  Speaker 8: folks just don't have, you know, they're in, let's get
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  Speaker 8: them in, let's get them out, run with it. I, it's,
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  Speaker 8: It's just an odd way to do health care to me.
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  Speaker 7: Well, Bill just opened up a huge can of worms.
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  Speaker 7: I heard someone, and it may have been Trump, say
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  Speaker 7: that AI is going to improve our health care system.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no.
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  Speaker 7: You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to
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  Speaker 7: go in. I'm going to pretend like it's me in 2007.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm going to go into whatever AI program I choose.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm going to input my symptoms. And I'm going
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  Speaker 7: to see what it tells me. And I'm going to
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  Speaker 7: screenshot that. And I'm going to keep that. But you
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  Speaker 7: know what else happens, Bill? When you were being a
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  Speaker 7: patient like me over two years, 17 doctors, And at one,
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  Speaker 7: you know, I've told the story before. Anyone who's listened
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  Speaker 7: for very long. Oh, he wanted to do a rib X-ray.
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  Speaker 7: He wanted to make sure. Is there any chance that
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: you're a victim of domestic violence? I looked at him
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: and said, you're fixing to see some domestic violence, but
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: it's between you and me. So I guess it's going
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: to be stranger violence. So I was like, absolutely not. No.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: Absolutely not.
• 24:48
  Speaker 7: And he just insisted. So, okay, so let's fast forward
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: a whole bunch of tests again, some of them repetitive.
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: And at one point, a doctor is like looking at me,
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: cocking his head like a little puppy dog going, I'm
• 25:06
  Speaker 7: kind of thinking that this is psychosomatic. Okay, so if
• 25:12
  Speaker 7: you go through that many false positives, Or false negatives.
• 25:18
  Speaker 7: I don't know what I had. I had false negatives. Inconclusive.
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: That's what it was. And then someone says that and
• 25:28
  Speaker 7: you're already in pain 24-7. You can hardly function. And
• 25:32
  Speaker 7: I will admit it. I didn't know, Doc. I didn't know.
• 25:35
  Speaker 7: And I had a job. I had an important job.
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: I was, you know, payroll, accounts receivable, accounts payable at
• 25:43
  Speaker 7: a restaurant. And I was downstairs, you know, and I
• 25:48
  Speaker 7: was happy about living in the basement, believe me, and
• 25:52
  Speaker 7: doing my work down there. To get through my day,
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: it was two a leave a day. And Of course,
• 26:02
  Speaker 7: I didn't even want to do it back then. I
• 26:04
  Speaker 7: had a job to do. But when you got a
• 26:09
  Speaker 7: doctor finally about halfway through this journey, could it be psychosomatic?
• 26:16
  Speaker 7: Then you begin to question yourself because you're already sick.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: You're already in pain. You're already ill. You don't have answers.
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: You don't know what's going on. So some of the
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: things that they do as far as testing is, is,
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: in my opinion, when it shows nothing and then they
• 26:39
  Speaker 7: want to turn it around like it's not me. I'm
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: not the bad doctor. I gave you a good test.
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: It's got to be in your head. That's cruel.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, when they installed the solid gold zipper,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: that should have been a clue.
• 26:56
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Because they were planning on coming back. You had the
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: most interesting story when you told me all this stuff.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: And it was so funny because nobody wanted you to
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: get better. There was no money in you getting better.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: And so everybody just ignored what everybody else had done.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: And common sense said, if you cut something with a
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: knife enough times, there's going to be damage. But nobody
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: wanted to pay attention to that because as long as
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: you had good insurance and money, you were a valuable,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: valuable item.
• 27:43
  Speaker 7: I don't know how good the insurance was because it
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: was not through a company. And, of course, this was
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: 2007 and 2008. This was prior to Obamacare. But this
• 27:54
  Speaker 7: was private self-pay insurance insurance. And, you know, until you
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: met your deductible, it was like an 80-20 kind of
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: a plan. And the deductible was $ 10, 000. And I met
• 28:08
  Speaker 7: that real quick.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: You probably met that on the weekend. It would have
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: been real easy. I was going to tell you, the
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: placemat or the graphics, really cool, that one you just
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: had up there a minute ago. You should have seen
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: the bill. She had one about the doctor listening to
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the patient.
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: Actually sitting there and listening while she's talking.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: And that's a cool thing. When patients are able to
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: open up and tell you what's going on, they don't
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: realize how smart they're making you look. And, you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I always told people I need all the help I
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: can get. Bring it on. Tell me everything. Leave out nothing.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: So that always helps. Bill, did you find it hard
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: sometimes to get people to open up and tell you everything?
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: You always figure that they never told you everything. They
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: told you what they thought you needed to know.
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: And you have to kind of work around that. But
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: it takes a long time for people to feel safe
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: enough to really talk openly about things that are a
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: problem for them. They're afraid of looking stupid. They're afraid of, well,
• 29:37
  Speaker 8: we had, and I suppose you guys did, too, but
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: we had the ethical, if not moral, obligation to warn
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: and to protect. And if we felt that somebody was
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: in a situation of danger, we could put them in
• 29:57
  Speaker 8: a hospital. As a patient understands that and understands that
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: that's a possibility, they're going to be a little more
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: reluctant to talk about things because, oh, well, this might
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: be a red flag event and I got a meeting
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: this afternoon. I can't be sent to the hospital for
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: a week. People are reluctant to do that. There's a
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: trust issue, and I think that that's largely ignored.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I kept booze in the office. Have
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: a drink and let's talk. But, you know, in Susie's case,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: you have to look at these doctors. How smart do
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: you need to be? You don't even need to go
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: to medical school to be sitting there talking to somebody
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: that's been cut up more than a cadaver in medical
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: school and wonder if just maybe all those surgeries and
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: incisions have caused some problems.
• 30:57
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: You know, you don't got to be real smart. It's
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: just a little basic common sense. You go out and
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: use your hands and you get calluses. You play musical instruments.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: And if you play guitar or violin or something that
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: has strings, the tips of your fingers develop a callus
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: from all that abuse. And eventually you get a hard
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: spot and you can play better. Well, the body's doing
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: the same thing when you keep cutting into it. It's
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: trying to protect itself. And that doesn't mean it's always
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: going to feel good. But it doesn't know how many
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: times you're going to get cut on. So it's trying to,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: you know, help itself the best it can. And none
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: of them seem to want to know that because they
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: were making too much money. And her actual problems... were
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: basic common sense and nobody wanted it to be that
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: because you don't get paid much if it's simple. So
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: they let her suffer unnecessarily and it's really sad. She
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: was a professional patient for those guys for a while
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: and she probably helped a lot of them buy brand
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: new mansions here somewhere in Texas. So I don't know.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Very sad. I hate when I see that doctors do
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: this stuff and it's all about the money. That's not
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: what it's supposed to be about. Anything before we go
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: to break, guys? Suzy?
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: Nope.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Bill?
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: Nope.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: All right, we had a good little run there on
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: the topic. When we come back, we'll go to one
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: of our, I have kind of a group one-liners today,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: so you don't have to try to guess who the
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: guy was. And I got a couple little jokes to
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: throw in there. And we'll just see where it takes us. So,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, this is Dr. Krupa's Natural Health Hours.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: It is the last day of September, the 30th. Tomorrow
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: is October. Probably be 30 degrees here in snow. You
• 33:13
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• 33:19
  Speaker 2: we will be right back. Suzy, Bill, and myself.
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  Speaker 9: The weather is brightening The thunder and lightning Seem to
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: be having their way But as far as I'm concerned
• 35:03
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• 35:08
  Speaker 10: The weather Will keep us together So I can honestly
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: say That as far as.
• 35:14
  Speaker 9: I'm concerned It's a lovely day And everything's okay. Isn't
• 35:24
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• 35:27
  Speaker 2: In the rain?
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  Speaker 9: You were going on your way, now you've got to
• 35:36
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• 35:42
  Speaker 5: You were going, leaving me all at.
• 35:47
  Speaker 10: Sea The clouds broke, they broke and oh, what a
• 35:54
  Speaker 10: break for me I can see the sun up high
• 36:00
  Speaker 10: though we're caught in a storm. I can see where
• 36:07
  Speaker 10: you and I could be cozy and warm. Let the
• 36:14
  Speaker 10: rain pitter-patter.
• 36:16
  Speaker 9: But it really doesn't matter.
• 36:18
  Speaker 10: If the skies are gray.
• 36:23
  Speaker 9: Long as I can be with you, it's a lovely day.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: All right, we are back.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: Susie, did you recognize that?
• 36:56
  Speaker 7: No, I didn't.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers.
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: Well, my excuse is I was making you a new
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: graphic while it was playing, and I knew it was goodies,
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: but you might want to look at your graphic on Rumble.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, I just looked over there. That's pretty cool. And
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I like margaritas, and I like tequila sunrise. That looks good.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: And scotch, yes. Oh, I love scotch. It sounds great.
• 37:29
  Speaker 7: In a doctor's office.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks really good. People always laugh. They couldn't
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: believe that I actually had booze in the office. But
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I never forget this one lady was so nervous that
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: I had to give her a drink, and she took it. So,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, we're back. We're just talking about booze,
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: and you've turned into the drinking show. But it's okay.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: This is Dr. Krupa's Natural Health Hours. It's the 30th
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: of September. Good ridden September because you did not get
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: the memo and cool down properly. So we're waiting for
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: the weather to be a little bit nicer. Bill would
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: like minus 20.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I'd just be happy if it cooled down 20 degrees.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I'd be really happy. But anyway, we are back. And anything, guys,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: on medical tests or specialists before we go to our
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: one-liners and stuff?
• 38:29
  Speaker 7: No, I'd like to forget about those people. Yeah.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Bill? Yep, I'm right with her.
• 38:36
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: I got a couple of quick little funnies. There was
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a guy sitting in the kitchen drinking his coffee, and
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: the wife, big old girl, come in and she said,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: do you know what day yesterday was? And he said, no.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: She said, it was our 30th anniversary and you forgot.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: And he had this really frightened look on his face.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: And she said, tomorrow, there better be something sitting on
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: our driveway that goes from zero to 180 in three
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: seconds or I'm filing for a divorce. I said, Okay.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: So the next morning, she looks out in the driveway,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: and she sees a box.
• 39:28
  Speaker 11: And.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: you know I don't know maybe she was thinking keys
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: to her car or a vacation or who knows what
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: so she goes out there and she opens the box
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: and it's a bathroom scale and she comes back in
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: and she said what the hell is this And he said, honey,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: you said you wanted something that would go from zero
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: to 180 in three seconds flat? And then a few
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: minutes later, they show her putting flowers in the grave
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: in the backyard. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. All right. A
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: guy and a wife were talking. They've been married for
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: a long, long time. And she said, honey. if you
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: won the lotto tomorrow and I died the next day,
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: and he said, stop right there, I couldn't get that
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: lucky twice. I love it. And for our audience, I
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: already talked to Bill and Susie about this, but the
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Back to Nature that we talked about, thanks to Susie
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: finding them, the cookies and the crackers, very healthy. They've
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: been around about 60-something years. They have now.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Gotten associated with a company called fish wife and if
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: you pull up fish wife which i'm doing it as
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: we talk uh fish wife seafood and you will see
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: they have a whole bunch of fish wife tinned seafood
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: and amazon carries them not a surprise but they have
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: uh let's take a look here They have a mystery discount.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I don't want to do that. I just want to look.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Let's see here. Tell you what kind of things they got.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: They have, where is that? Smoked salmon, I think. Oh,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: they got all kinds of facial stuff, too. Mussels with
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: sweet pepper and garlic. Gold label smoked salmon. Jing chili crisp.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: with smoked salmon sardine dream albacore tuna there's your tuna
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: for the crackers and tuna salad suzy albacore tuna and
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: olive oil spicy and in regular sardines preserved in lemon
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: fish wife california white surgeon caviar i've never i don't
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: think i've ever tried caviar suzy or bill have you
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: guys eaten caviar.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Once years ago.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Was it good?
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: No.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Susie? Did we lose her?
• 42:34
  Speaker 7: No. It's just hard to admit. So my best friend
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: and I had a huge New Year's Eve party, you know,
• 42:42
  Speaker 7: late 80s. And we were trying to think of all
• 42:46
  Speaker 7: kinds of interesting, weird things. And I'm You're going to
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: fire me for the recipe section. I made a congealed
• 42:59
  Speaker 7: salad thing that people could come by and scoop it
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: up and put it on a cracker chip or whatever,
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: and it had caviar in it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Well, I've never tried it, so I don't know much
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: about it, but I just pulled it up while you
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: were talking. Fishwife California White Sturgeon Caviar. One ounce, $ 110.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: I have to get a job. I guess I'll be
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: trying anytime soon. But anyway, if you guys are interested
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: in Back to Nature stuff, they are now affiliated with
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Fish Wife. And anybody that says Fish Wife, she can't
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: be very cute. I'm sorry. Just can't be. I can't
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: see it.
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: All right.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: And Susie, you made a really good graphic. Bill, you
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: got to see this. There's a tiki bar in my office.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Really cool.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Really, really cool.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: All right. So let's go over here to our one-liners.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: And like I said, there's a bunch of different people,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: so we don't have to try to guess tonight. Just
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: hopefully some of them are a little fun and humorous.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Guy says, I told my therapist about my fear of commitment.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Now he's my ex-therapist. I finally found the recipe for happiness.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Just add coffee and a little chaos. They say laughter
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: is the best medicine. So I guess I'm a multi-millionaire
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: in laughter stock. I quit drinking, but I'm no quitter.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: I like that.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: I put the pro in procrastination. I'm practically a professional.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: My diet plan is just skip the D and eat
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: whatever you want. I tried to be normal once. Worst
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: two minutes of my life. I'm on a seafood diet.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: I see food and I eat it. I don't need
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: an alarm clock. My life is a series of unfortunate events.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I'm not lazy. I'm just on the energy saving mode.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: If life gives you lemons, just add vodka and make
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: a party. This is some really good thinking here. Let's
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: see here. I don't have a bucket list, but my
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: to-do list is a long story. My life is like
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: a sitcom, except I forgot to write the script. Who
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: needs therapy when you have memes and snacks? I told
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: my computer I needed a break, and now it won't
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: stop sending me vacation ads. Sounds like AI. I'm not
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: a morning person. I'm a coffee person before noon. I've
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: mastered the art of awkward silences. Just give me a microphone.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: I tried to be a morning person, but my bed
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: just was too persuasive. I don't always talk to myself,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: but when I do, I have a great conversation. All right.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: That was a whole bunch of people, so you don't
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: have to even try to guess this time. But funny stuff,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: funny stuff. So, guys, we have extra minutes for questions.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: change and I'm looking at back to nature on the
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: placemat that Susie did. That's pretty cool. You're getting pretty
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: good at this, Susie. I think you're just starting to
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: show off now.
• 46:49
  Speaker 7: It's finally becoming fun. Yeah.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: Well, ladies and gentlemen, if you don't know, Susie built
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: the website. She took Bill from the edge of the
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: cliff on how to work Zoom and and brought him
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: back to where he's a whiz. She has designed these placemats,
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: we call them, on Rumble. And she's just really good
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: at all this kind of stuff, and she loves doing it.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: And you give her a challenge, and you better get
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: out of the way, because she's got to figure it out.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: So pretty cool stuff. So when you look at our uh,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: rumble show. If you're looking live and you know, Susie,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: you had, um, 15 or 16 people that checked out your, uh,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: placemat before we even did the show tonight.
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: Huh?
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: And you had like 80 from last week already. So
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: pretty cool. Pretty cool. Um, one of the things, ladies
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: and gentlemen that we try to do is, is, Put
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: a little humor in all the seriousness because everybody's too stressed,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: too worried about everything that you can't control. And when
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: you get into politics, you know, it's just a nightmare.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I saw something today where they were reminding us that
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: our forefathers did not pay these senators and congressmen a salary.
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: They only got paid per diem when they were in
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: doing something, kind of like Texas does, I think. And
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: somehow they managed, as Thomas Jefferson warned us, to vote
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: themselves a salary, to vote themselves that they get paid
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: even if the government shuts down, to give themselves a
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: retirement and full medical benefits and even if they only
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: serve one two-year period in office or six years in
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: the Senate. A pretty screwed-up situation. So I'm the worst
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: one on the show probably for politics. Suzy still believes
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: and has the dream that one day maybe Texas will
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: get its independence. Yeah.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: I hope she's right, but I'm worried that if she
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: is right, we'll have the same clowns in charge. So
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you ever start over and make
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: this better.
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: Well, Texas is so great that I think there's two...
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: at least two counties in New Mexico that wants to
• 49:43
  Speaker 7: join Texas. Well, I've got a problem with that because
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: that's going to jack up the shape of Texas. So
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: I don't think we should allow them.
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: My biggest problem right now in this country for me
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: is why they're letting all these– mosque, I guess they're called,
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: do these round-the-clock, out-in-the-street microphones, loudspeakers, and doing all that praying.
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: They said up there in Dearborn, Michigan, they pretty much
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: took over. And, you know, I traveled a lot when
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I was in the Navy. I was really blessed. I
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: got to go a lot of places. And not one
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: time when I went to another country did I think, Boy,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: we need to stay here and change this like where
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I grew up. I didn't think about that at all.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I wanted to blend in, learn their culture, enjoy their
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: food and their booze and their women. And I never
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: once dreamed like these people. But these people are coming
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: to this country from horrible places saying we want to
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: make this like it was back home. But back home
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: was terrible or you wouldn't be here. And now they're
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: bragging that they want to get enough of these people
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: and their religion so they can take over America. Well,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: you know, that's crazy. I read the Koran, and there's
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: things in there that blew my mind. I can't understand.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: But a lot of the things I'm hearing today, I
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: never saw in the Koran. So this stuff about women
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: have to wear the head covering and they don't let
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: them get educated. If you're a guy living in that
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: kind of religion, you're like a king. So no wonder
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: they don't like us coming to their country to change it.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: But now they're coming to our country and trying to
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: change it. And I have a real problem with that.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: I think you want to come here, you assimilate or
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: you leave. Real simple. Bill, what do you think?
• 52:02
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: I agree with that.
• 52:08
  Speaker 8: There was a time, I think, after the Second World
• 52:11
  Speaker 8: War when the United States wanted everybody to have a
• 52:16
  Speaker 8: democratic kind of government.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: A democracy. And, you know, it's their choice. They shouldn't.
• 52:23
  Speaker 8: And I think we've kind of backed off of that.
• 52:26
  Speaker 8: I'm glad we did because it's... everybody should have the
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: right to decide how they want to live. But to
• 52:32
  Speaker 8: go into another country like is occurring here, no, that's
• 52:41
  Speaker 8: just not right.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just amazed that they think they can get
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: away with this. And it seems like people are finally
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: starting to stand up. The last four years, we didn't.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: They just opened the floodgates. And, you know, they showed
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: the numbers the other day if you worked your whole
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: life in this country and made a fair living and
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: paid into social security all that time, you get a
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: certain amount of money every month. They showed that these
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: people that are coming here and most of them illegal,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: but even if they're not illegal very quickly, they're getting
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: more money than the average person who retired after working
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: 30 or 40 years, uh, and they're getting it out
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: of our funds. And then they complain that social security
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: and things like that might dry up. Well, if they
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: would have kept their hands out of the cookie jar
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: and then also not giving it away to people who
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: don't belong here, or they're not supposed to come here
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: and get free money, there would be plenty of money
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: in there. And if they'd have managed our money in
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: any way at all, um, we wouldn't have this problem.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: I think everybody in Washington, D.C. should never be there
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: longer than two terms, and everybody that's still there should
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: be fired that's been there longer than two terms right
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: now and start fresh. I vote we send Suzy up there, Bill.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: What do.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: You think? Yeah.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: She'd be hell on wheels.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think she'd want to go. Well, I.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: I'd be a little nervous for Washington, D.C., what she
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: might do to him, but they would deserve it. So,
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Bill, you got scratched around in that
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: office of yours and found a weekly topic?
• 54:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I did find something. I found a couple other
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: things I'd been looking for, too.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised. I can see this
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Howard Hughes kind of house looking thing from what you described.
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: I had two bottles of shoe polish that I couldn't
• 55:03
  Speaker 8: find it for six months.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: I got them now.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: I love it. People say, well, it's always the last
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: place you looked. Well, of course it's the last place
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: you looked. That's when you found it. So you wouldn't
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: keep looking. People are crazy. That's why they make booze.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Would Ben Franklin say God loves us, that's why he
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: gave us beer? He didn't say nothing about wine or scotch, but,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't know. I like it when you
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: hear all these people talking about the evils of drinking. Well,
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: they've been drinking since the beginning of time. And the
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: most religious monks in the world were the first ones
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: to make beer or so.
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: And the whiskey, the name whiskey itself means water of life.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: How can that be bad? I mean, people are crazy.
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Well, we're just about a break. Suzy, anything before we
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: go to break?
• 56:08
  Speaker 7: Ken, you know, in, what was it, 2020, where they,
• 56:13
  Speaker 7: you know, they shut down the United States and Greg
• 56:19
  Speaker 7: Abbott willingly went along with it. They shut down churches.
• 56:25
  Speaker 7: And there was a handful that said, no, sir, you're
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: not shutting us down. And they were demonized. And you're
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: a spreader. And one church up in Burleson, Texas, actually
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: opened their doors to the COVID patients. And they said,
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: their words were, they didn't care if it was AIDS
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: or leprosy or covid you come here and we'll pray
• 56:54
  Speaker 7: over you okay so can you imagine if the muslims
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: were in the streets and they're called to prayer however
• 57:03
  Speaker 7: many three five times a day i don't remember do
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: you think and this is speculative Do you think they
• 57:11
  Speaker 7: would have shut down their hip-to-hip and head-to-butt-prone prostate or
• 57:19
  Speaker 7: whatever they call it position and told the Muslims they
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: could not pray? I'm sitting here really, really wondering that.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: No, they would have never done that. In fact, they
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: would have probably offered to clean the rugs that they
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: kneel on. You know what is so sad is is
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: all those clowns that are supporting the socialism, the communism,
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: the Muslims, the Islamic extremists, all that stuff, they don't
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: realize what will happen to them if those people ever
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: get control. People like AOC and all that bunch that
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: are always seen with those guys, like Mandemi, those guys
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: get real power and people like her are gone. They
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: are not going to Let them get away with that.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: All the transgenders and the crazy stuff. If you sent
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: all them people to them other countries, they would kill them.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: They don't tolerate that stuff.
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: They throw them off of a roof or cut their
• 58:24
  Speaker 7: heads off or both.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're still out there acting like they support them.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: I saw something the other day. It said, queers and
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: gays for Gaza.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: Well, them people over there would kill you for a
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: lot less. And you go over there and tell them.
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: What's those saying? The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: That's what they're operating under.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy. All right, guys. Well, Bill, anything before
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: we go?
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Nope. All right.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: Well, ladies and gentlemen, we're almost at break time. It
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: is September 30th. Good riddance, September. I gave you a chance.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: You let me down. You only cooled off a little
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: bit and it still gets real. I've seen 107 two
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: or three days this last week with the thermometer that's
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: out in the sun. So that ain't right. September should
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: have cooled down a little bit and I'm ready for it.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: But anyway, this is Dr. Grupa's Natural Health Hours. The
• 59:27
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• 59:31
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  Speaker 7: And.
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  Speaker 2: we have got Bill's weekly topic. So we're going to
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  Speaker 2: go right to Bill and let him take it away.
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  Speaker 2: Take it away, Bill.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 8: He's kind of thinking about this week, something that we've
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 8: talked about on and off for, I guess, ever since
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 8: we've been doing all of this, but I'm once again,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 8: I'm astonished at how, what's, the material that you were
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  Speaker 8: talking about earlier kind of ties in with what I
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  Speaker 8: was planning to do anyway. It seems to happen every
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  Speaker 8: once in a while, and it's always interesting that it does.
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  Speaker 3: But what I.
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  Speaker 8: Was thinking about this week was what I really came
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 8: to call, in terms of health care, personal awareness, or
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 8: another way of looking at it is a.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: Symptom inventory. How am I doing? How am I feeling?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 8: And one of the things that has been a constant
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 8: with you is, Doc, as you're talking about, we listen
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 8: to what our body tells us and go from there.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: And I.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 8: Think that's right. I think that we need to learn
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 8: how to do that. Having said that, I don't think
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 8: most of us know how to do that. And it's
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 8: something that we have to learn how to be aware
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 8: of how we're doing physically, psychologically, spiritually. Those three areas
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 8: are essentially the container of our life. It's how do
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 8: we find the goals, the motivation to really learn how
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 8: to look at how we're doing. And thinking about this
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 8: was reminded when I was a kid and having problems
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 8: sleeping that my dad said.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: All right, well, think about, is your left foot relaxed? No.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 8: Well, make your left foot, wiggle your toes, make sure
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  Speaker 8: your left foot's relaxed. And how about that left ankle?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 8: And how about that left shin? And the left knee
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 8: and your left thigh, working around to really take a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 8: look at specific.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: Parts of how you're doing.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 8: And by the time, of course, you get around to
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 8: the right foot, you're probably asleep. But it's the same
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 8: thing when we're trying to do a personal inventory, a
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 8: personal assessment of how we're feeling. Usually we don't start
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 8: to do that until we feel bad. Something's broke. We
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 8: hurt ourselves.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: We were injured. Now we've become.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 10: Ill.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: We've acquired some illness.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 8: And why is there this inability to be self-aware? Okay,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 8: a lot of it is cultural. What really, I think,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 8: began to kick this off was As you know, I
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 8: don't watch television, but I occasionally walk through a room
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 8: where the TV is on, and I'm usually appalled at
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 8: the stuff that's on there, but okay. We are culturally
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 8: programmed to look at an injury or illness. We're not
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 8: prone to think about why that is or how that happened.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 8: All we want to do is get a quick fix.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 8: You look at the commercials and the ads and they're
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 8: all for quick fixes. Take this, you'll feel better. It
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 8: don't say anything about changing your perspective so that you
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 8: don't do stupid stuff again and hurt yourself. I remember
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 8: when I was probably six or seven and my dad
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 8: decided it was time for me to have a pocket knife.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 8: That's kind of one of those moments of transition between
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 8: being a little kid and being an older kid. So
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 8: he got me a foldable rubber knife and we practiced
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 8: whittling and we practiced folding it up before we walked anywhere.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 8: And we learned about not running with an open knife
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 8: and all of this kind of stuff. And as he knew,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 8: and of course I realized this later, When he gave
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 8: me a for real pocket knife, he knew perfectly well
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 8: I was going to have to cut myself to really
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 8: understand what all that training was about.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: And he was right.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 8: Sometimes when we were injured, it's more of a process
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 8: of not really paying attention to how we got to
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 8: where we are.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: How did this happen? How did we....
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 8: How did I, where did I fall down? Where did
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 8: I not do the things, pay attention to how I
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 8: was doing things, not learn from my experience? and to
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 8: keep moving forward by moving backwards you know when we're
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 8: hurt we have to deal with the injury we have
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 8: to put a bandage on it or we have to
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 8: get a bone set or whatever we have to take
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 8: care of the injury It seems to me that Western
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 8: medicine pretty well quits there. They don't pursue any causal factors.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 8: What in your behavior, what in your lifestyle made you
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 8: quit thinking about what you're doing while you were doing
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 8: it and not pay any attention? An acquaintance had to
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 8: remove a couple of trees. And they said, I know
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 8: you've got a chainsaw. Would you lend me your chainsaw?
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 8: Hell no. Well, I don't want to have to pay
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 8: somebody to do it. And I said, yeah, that's your choice,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 8: but I'm not going to lend you my chainsaw. I'm sorry.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 8: I don't lend tools anyway, but particularly chainsaws. It's just
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 8: kind of strange that they figure all they've got to
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 8: do is crank the thing up and they know how
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 8: to run it.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 3: It doesn't work.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 8: Working back to the tv thing how many commercials are
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 8: for over-the-counter medications or medications that need to be prescribed
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 8: as long as you be sure to ask your doctor
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 8: and of course you have to go see your doctor
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 8: in order to ask him about this medication.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: We don't we don't.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: Spend time as a culture, thinking about maybe I need
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: to change my diet. Maybe I need to be careful
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 8: what I eat or what I don't eat. Maybe I
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 8: need to take a little more sense about how I'm
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 8: living my life and how my life is working out.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 8: And if there's a problem with it, maybe I need
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 8: to take a good backward look at how I got
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 8: to where I am.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: It's just.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 7: A....
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: The thing that we have to train ourselves to do,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 8: we have to train ourselves to backtrack from where we
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 8: are to see how we got there. It's not something
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  Speaker 8: that we're ever given much guidance with at school or.
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  Speaker 3: Culturally.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 8: It's just one of those individual things. Certainly, that's true
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 8: of the physicality thing. The psychological-emotional aspect is very similar
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 8: except that it's talked about even less. I certainly don't
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 8: remember more than one or two ads over the past
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 8: several years where they're talking about dealing with depression or
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 8: anxiety or how do you even know what those things
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 8: are and how do we know we have them? We
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 8: don't want to talk about being depressed because that means
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 8: we're crazy or having anxiety because that means we're crazy
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 8: or we're having mood swings because... That means we're crazy.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 8: We don't want to talk about that. We want to
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 8: talk about other stuff like headaches that I can take
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 8: an aspirin for and feel better. How do we begin
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 8: to look at our psychological, emotional life in the same
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 8: way that we should be looking at our physical life?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 8: How do we backtrack our behavior when stuff isn't working
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 8: there's usually a reason for it. And if we're able
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 8: to be honest with ourselves and able to be objective
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 8: with ourselves, we should be able to see, okay, yeah,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 8: that's when that happens. One of the things that I
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 8: ran into early, early on, and it was a real
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 8: constant in my practice, was things that we call triggers.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 8: There are events in the lives of each one of us.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: Sometimes decades ago, that if we encounter again, will put
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 8: us in a certain place.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: Not a good place.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 8: I had a patient who said, you know, he dealt
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 8: with recurring depression. And he said, I realized I was
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 8: beginning to be depressed when I physically started to feel bad.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 8: When I physically started to feel bad, That's what changed
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: his emotional, his psychological, emotional outlook. He saw that as
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 8: a way to certainly diminish the intensity of the depression
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 8: that he had been dealing with all of his life.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 8: He said, if I begin to feel bad in this
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 8: certain kind of way, I know where I'm headed and
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 8: I know what I need to do to not go there. Okay,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 8: that's what I'm talking about. That's what we need to
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 8: be able.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 3: Need to be able to do. Not easy.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 8: Our culture is even less communicative about psychological, emotional issues
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 8: than it is about physical issues because it's more difficult
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 8: to identify and it's certainly more difficult to treat. But
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 8: it can be dealt with and there are ways to
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 8: work around these debilitating events in our lives that kind
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 8: of recur. They keep coming back. and I think that,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 8: that things recur in our lives for reasons. Um, you
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 8: keep doing it till you get it right. Dummy, you know,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 8: pay attention to what's going on. Pay attention to how
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 8: you're doing. I had another patient who said that, um, who,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 8: who was really dealing with anxiety. Mostly he's an elderly
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 8: guy who was in his, uh, at that point, I
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 8: guess late seventies, early eighties. Um, But he said, you know,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 8: he said, I don't get out very much anymore. But
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 8: when I do and I start talking to somebody, I
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 8: really realize that I'm rambling. I just talk about everything.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 8: None of it makes any sense to anybody, but I
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 8: know what I'm talking about. But he said, when I
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: do that and people are kind of looking at me like, no,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 8: here's another old guy who's losing it, then I need
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 8: to shut up and I need to quit talking and
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 8: I need to Get grounded again and get a better
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 8: sense of where I am and what I'm doing. And
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 8: I need to be around people more. And I thought, yes,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 8: that's right. Being able to understand what it is you
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 8: need to do to change your behavior, to change your life,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 8: to change the way you're doing things, to keep from
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 8: going to places that are uncomfortable for you. And we
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 8: have often talked about the interrelationship between your physical world
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 8: and your psychological emotional world and how one influences the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 8: other and can be a cause for bad things in
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 8: the other. And it works both ways. Third part of
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 8: that is something I talked a little bit about last week,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 8: and that's the spirituality part of it. And I think
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 8: as a culture, we have been secularized or decades, people
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 8: who go to church are a little strange. They're a
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 8: little kind of quirky, and they don't have a real
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 8: good sense about what reality really is in this country.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 8: And reality is not going to church and having that
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 8: sense of how we fit into the larger scheme of things.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 8: And that separation of what I think is a basic
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 8: need in all of us to feel part of something
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 8: far greater than ourselves, that separation has been destructive culturally, personally,
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 8: certainly in relationships. It's been a while since I've kept
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 8: up with that number, but 60 is the last number
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 8: I heard.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: 60% of all marriages fail. Why is that?
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 8: It, It's interesting to be able to say, wow, that's
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 8: a lot of folks, but why just leave it at that?
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 8: Doesn't anybody want to understand that there may be more
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 8: than just living for the moment and for yourself and
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 8: for whatever kind of, as we used to say, hedonistic
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 8: pleasures that we can derive from this experience? Is there
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 8: something greater? Yes, there has to be something greater. And
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 8: there has to be, I think there has to be
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 8: recognized that all of us have a need to Understand that.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 8: Part of that gets into something I touched on briefly
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 8: last week, and that's the presence of evil in our lives.
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 8: And what is evil? How do we define evil? And essentially,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 8: it's anything in our life that disrupts goodness. that disrupts goodness,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 8: stops us from being kind, causes us to say unkind things,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 8: causes us to do unkind things.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not talking about major evil like violence and crime.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: and all that.
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  Speaker 8: I'm talking about the kind of evil that all of
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 8: us experience.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 3: Every day.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 8: And I think in my practice, if there was one thing,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 8: one aspect of our personality that was the root of
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 8: it all, it was anger. Just anger, unresolved anger, little anger,
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 8: small things, small things that chew on us for decades
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 8: that has a physical price to pay. There is a
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 8: physical price to pay for that. Clinically, not my favorite word,
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 8: but we know that anger that is not resolved, anger
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 8: that is not recognized and approached and dealt with will
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 8: cause depression. And the longer that it goes without being
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 8: dealt with and recognized and confronted, the more intense that
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 8: depression and its associated anger become. One of the major
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 8: causes of suicide, unresolved anger. How do we recognize how
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 8: deeply angry we are? Because we've probably been angry for decades.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: Decade.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 8: We just have gotten used to it. We've become accustomed
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 8: to it. It's a part of us. We don't even
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 8: think about it anymore. We're just angry all the time.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 8: We're angry at our government. We're angry at our politicians.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 8: We're angry at the food prices. We're angry at all
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 8: kinds of stuff. Where do we begin to reconnect with
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 8: this sense of being part of something greater? Because that
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 8: it has seemed to me over the years, is really
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 8: a major step in letting that anger go. Anger affects
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 8: our physical health. It affects our mental health. It affects
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 8: our relationships. It affects everything with us. How do we
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 8: begin to say, yeah, I've been really angry about this
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 8: for years.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 7: Why? Why?
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 8: Personally, I can think back to things that happened 50,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 8: 60 years ago, and I can become just as angry
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 8: today as I was the day they happened. I think
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 8: I need to work on that a little bit. I
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 8: need to find that sense of balance. And the balance
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 8: is something that we've talked about on this program for
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 8: this day. Well, not since day one, because I wasn't
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 8: here on day one, but since I've been a part
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 8: of it, is how do we find balance? a way
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 8: to balance the aspects in our lives so that we
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 8: have a sense of peace and contentment and tranquility and
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 8: a sense of joy. I noticed this morning it was
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 8: this way, not yesterday morning, but the day before. That
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 8: would be, what, Monday? The sunrises have been spectacular. Just
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 8: a few minutes and they're gone, but worth every minute
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 8: of them. to be able to let everything go but
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 8: becoming part of that brief moment to watch the sun
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 8: come up, a new day beginning. We need to be
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 8: able to have these moments of watching the clouds go
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 8: or hearing a bird or watching kids play or something
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 8: that begins to put us back into touch with that
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 8: greater being, that greater power, that greater entity. And to
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 8: find ourselves a moment of peace emotionally, psychologically, physically, spiritually.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 8: Take that moment and.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 3: Be in that moment. There you go.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 2: Well, as always... Very good stuff. And now I'm angry.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: Be a therapist. You're right.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: You're right. You can go back and think about stuff.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: And some stuff just never goes away. It's always back
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 2: there on the shelf. And maybe because we didn't resolve
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: it properly. I don't know. Maybe some things like dealing
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: with my crazy neighbor that I can't do anything about it.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: You know, that stuff wears on you.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: It does.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: And unfortunately, in this modern era, I can't deal with
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: it the way it justly needs to be dealt with.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: So it'll always be there on the shelf. How about you, Suzy?
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: Are you back?
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: Hey, did you look at that tablet I sent you?
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Because my brother said It is fabulous, and it might
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 2: be just what you need without breaking the bank.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I looked at it. The price was fabulous.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he loves his, and he raised hell when we
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: got it for him. But now he loves it.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 7: Now he loves it.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: But anyway, what do you think about Bill's stuff talking
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: about going way back and dealing with the anger and
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: things that have hung around and hovered over us forever?
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a biggie for me, you know, letting go
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 7: of things because, number one, you don't have any control
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 7: over it. You can't fix the past. You know, one
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 7: thing that you can do, I do this, is I
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 7: try to learn from my mistakes. Like, I don't, you know,
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 7: break my foot while I'm fishing, and then after I
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 7: get out of the ER, I go back to fishing again.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 7: you know, those sorts of things. But I think the
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 7: best thing that I've taken from what he said was,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 7: you know, let go of those things. It's just intended
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 7: to bring you down and learn from it. You know,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 7: sometimes it's people you have to let go of. And,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 7: you know, sometimes it's habits you have to let go of.
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you said learn from your mistakes, but I don't
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: have that much time to go to school.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, as you're getting older, you don't.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: But even if I was going to live a couple
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: hundred years, I don't have enough time.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: I had a colleague years ago who was, it was
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 3: a fine guy. He was a Jewish guy.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 8: And he was talking about Yom Kippur, which is really
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 8: such a big deal for those folks.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: It lasts a week.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 8: I told him, I said, you know, I've known you
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 8: for several years, but I could tell you right now
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 8: that one week is not going to take care of
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 8: all the stuff you got to take care of.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: He didn't think that was real funny.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I told you, I am a firm believer in
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: guardian angels, and I think sometimes I get punished for
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: things that maybe I just thought about doing wrong. Suzy's
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 2: famous for saying that women know what we're going to
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: do before we do it, so that's why they can
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: get on us before we screw up. You know, every
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: once in a while you've got to change things. Like,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: there's a song out. And there's always us guys that
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: did bad. But I can write a pretty good song
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: if the words and music are in front of me.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: I can twist it around. And there's one out there
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: where it says, Daddy's come around to Mama's way of thinking.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: No more staying out all night drinking. Well, I can't
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: have that. So I had to rewrite it. So now
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: it's Mama's come around to Daddy's way of drinking. No
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: more sitting up all night. thinking that he was out
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: doing something wrong because he ain't so now daddy can
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: go out and enjoy a night with the boys you
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: know mamas come around to daddy's way of drinking is
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: how it ought to be but all them songs it
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: seems like Susie I think you had your hand in
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: writing a lot of songs because they're always pulling us
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: guys aside punishing us and I get punished enough I
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: can't tell you how many times that I'll think about something,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: and maybe it didn't go quite right or whatever, and
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: it seems like a punishment followed immediately. I feel like
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: Noah talking to God, how long can you tread water?
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. You got me looking at classic
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: cars too, Susie. I got that love for like the
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: old Mercury Cougar, the Gran Torino. The Pontiac Bonneville 69. Oh,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: I love those cars. The Mustangs. You didn't have all
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: this junk on them. That'll get rid of a lot
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: of your anger, Bill. You get behind one of them
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: beautiful cars that when we... were growing up and just go.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: For a ride has to be a stick shift you.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: Gotta have a stick shift huh that's funny because oh
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: you know it used to be everybody had a stick
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: shift and then slowly they became automatics but i'll tell
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: you what if you had a stick shift where i
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: live You'd be replacing the clutch once a week because
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: you'd be on and off, on and off, and stuck
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: in traffic. And your left leg would be the size
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: of three of the right legs. But a stick shift's
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of fun when you're out riding around and
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: it's not a lot of traffic. Country back roads.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 7: I saw that email you sent about the Thunderbird. You
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 7: saw my response?
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I expected that from you. Suzy wants a Thunderbird
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: with three engines and a propeller. No, I don't.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: 64, 65, 66, Q code.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 8: That's it.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I saw a Mercury Cougar. I think it was... 69, 67.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: Somewhere in there. Absolutely gorgeous. And the Gran Torino. And
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: you know there's a vehicle that a lot of people
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: don't know about. I've always been a Ford guy, so
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of the Fords. But Chevy made
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: this El Camino. Everybody knows about them. But Ford made
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: a Ranchero that was a cool vehicle. And you don't
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: hardly ever hear anybody talk about them.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 7: That's what my grandfather had. Well, he had two. He
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 7: had one that was like 56 or 57. But then
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 7: he got an almost brand new one in the 70s.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 7: And it had the 351 Cleveland. And he changed the
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 7: horn to like an 18-wheeler horn. Oh, yeah. And if
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 7: I wanted to make him mad, his garage was attached
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 7: to his house. It was single. It was right by
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 7: the kitchen. I would go out there, and I'd get
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 7: in that car, and I'd blow that horn.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 4: Oh, boy.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: I am really impressed that you said 351 Cleveland. Not
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: very many women would know that.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 7: Well, and on the Thunderbird 64, 65, 66, the cue
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 7: code is the 429, and that's the one that I want.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 7: I don't want the little popcorn fart.
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see you with a 429.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, God, look out.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: How about you, Bill? Was there one favorite car that
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: you really liked growing up?
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I had a 66 Mustang, and I drove it
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 8: for almost 200,000 miles.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 3: It was great. Dick shift.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you mentioned the Mustang before. All right, guys, well,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: we are at break time. Susie, you say you've got
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: a recipe or two up your sleeve?
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I do, and it's Joe's fault.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: Did you like Liza Minnelli, Susie?
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 7: Not really.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. I saw her with some of those musical
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: songs that you talked about. I think one of them
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: was Life's a Cabaret.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: That was a great movie that she was in.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 7: Wasn't she Judy Garland's mother?
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:32:26
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  Speaker 2: right Take us in the kitchen.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, so there's been quite a bit of discussion between
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  Speaker 7: the two of y'all about canned biscuits. So I thought
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  Speaker 7: I would give y'all a recipe that you could do
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  Speaker 7: with your canned biscuits. And it's a chicken biscuit casserole.
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  Speaker 7: And I've been making this for years. And it's a
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  Speaker 7: comfort food, especially when the weather starts to cool down.
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  Speaker 7: And so, you know, you're always grilling your chicken. If
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  Speaker 7: you had some leftover chicken or rotisserie chicken, you know,
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  Speaker 7: they've got at least H-E-B, those things. They call them
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 7: HEB Naturals. They say no hormones or antibiotics, but it's
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 7: two cups of cooked and shredded chicken. Okay, so the
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  Speaker 7: next item, and we've talked about this before, and it's
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 7: one can of cream of chicken soup. Now, there's a
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  Speaker 7: few brands out there. I know that Natural Grocers has
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 7: their own brand of organic, probably sprouts, probably whole foods.
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  Speaker 7: And also, if you like Pinterest, searching for ideas, you
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 7: can go over and do a search for cream of
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  Speaker 7: chicken base or cream of anything base. Well, the problem with,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 7: and you'll have to dig around, maybe do some tweaking
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 7: like I always have to do, but with the cream
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  Speaker 7: of chicken base, which means it's just the powdered part,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 7: It calls for chicken bouillon granules. Well, that's just full
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 7: of MSG. So for simplicity, I'm going to say, you know,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 7: find a good brand. Pacifico, I think, is one that
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 7: I try to keep it on hand. Cream of mushroom
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 7: and cream of chicken. But, you know, there's a few
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 7: more out there at the different, you know, so-called health
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 7: food stores. And so one can of that and a
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 7: cup of sour cream, a cup of shredded cheddar cheese.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 7: Hopefully it's not the Sharia law cheese. Half a cup
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  Speaker 7: of milk, half a teaspoon of garlic powder, quarter teaspoon
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 7: of black pepper, which is ludicrous, at least half of
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  Speaker 7: a teaspoon. And this is for Bill and for Doc.
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  Speaker 7: One can, 16 ounces of refrigerated biscuits, okay, like the Annie's,
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  Speaker 7: you know, something organic, and then a half a cup
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  Speaker 7: of butter melted. And the instructions here, it says, you know,
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 7: butter makes everything better. And you're going to use that,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 7: of course, on top of your biscuit. It's to give
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 7: them a nice crust and golden top. I could not
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 7: find the exact recipe that I use, but what I
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 7: do is, let me go on to the instructions, then
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 7: I'll tell you what I do. 375 on your oven,
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 7: and you're going to butter a 9x13 baking dish. And
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 7: then in a large bowl, you're going to mix everything,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 7: your chicken, your cream of chicken soup, sour cream. the
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 7: cheddar cheese, milk, garlic powder, pepper until it's creamy. Well,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 7: what I do is I take one fairly large jalapeno,
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 7: cut it and deseed it. And then I just chop
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 7: it up and I dice it up and I add
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  Speaker 7: that to that mixture. The big difference on this recipe,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 7: and you can go right by the recipe or you
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 7: can add these little additions. I like to get from HEB,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 7: they've got the little tiny baby petite peas, if you will,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 7: like English peas, but they're smaller and they're organic. And then,
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 7: you know, I don't know, two carrots, maybe chop it
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  Speaker 7: up really fine and add that to it. Then you're
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 7: going to pour all of that mixture into your baking dish.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 7: It's just so simple. And then you're going to, now
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  Speaker 7: this recipe doesn't differ than me. I put my biscuits whole.
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  Speaker 7: Now I've done it with organic canned biscuits and I've
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 7: done it with homemade biscuits. Either way, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 7: And it does say to cut them, you know, into
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 7: quarters and it says to fold them into your chicken mixture. Well,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 7: that's yuck. That's almost like doing dumplings. What I like
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 7: to do is after I put all of that yummy
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  Speaker 7: chicken mixture in there, I like to open up the
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 7: cans of biscuits and then place them, just set them
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 7: on the top of your on your casserole, and then
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 7: take that melted butter and brush it over the top
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 7: of all of those biscuits. And then you're going to
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  Speaker 7: bake it uncovered for like 35 to 40 minutes. So
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 7: what I did was I put this in, I'm going
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 7: to put this in the rumble today's rumble show in
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  Speaker 7: the comment. And then I'm going to, as is, as
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 7: the recipe is, and then I'm going to add my
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 7: little extras in the comment section, but that's it. There
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  Speaker 7: you go. Now you got something new to do with
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 7: your canned biscuits.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, and see, cans are good. Bill, you got anything
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: you want to put your order in for that? Um,
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: Care package you know she's going to send?
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  Speaker 8: Well, this recipe really sounds like a good fall dish
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  Speaker 8: to have. It just sounds great.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I made some biscuits and gravy the other day. And
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  Speaker 2: if I do say so myself, it was heavenly.
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  Speaker 7: I changed the place mat up. it doesn't look so
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 7: much like somebody did a, I saw that graffiti. Yeah.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: It looks like you got some youngster in there doing
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  Speaker 2: the work for you.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 7: I know I do.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: And, but I see your iron corn too. That's cool.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 7: It was kind of, it was kind of funny. You know, I, uh,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 7: I ask, um, AI to help me you know and
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 7: I told it what I wanted and you know I
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 7: didn't want like a 25 year old cooking but that's
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 7: what I got and I'm like hey well I'll roll
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 7: with it and it was funny because there was a
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 7: bag of King Arthur flowers sitting on on her work
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 7: surface and I went oh no uh-uh we're not doing
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 7: that and lo and behold I went in and said
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 7: please change that bag I literally said please to AI.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 7: I mean, whatever. And changed that back to EINCORN all purpose.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 7: And it was like, okay.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: Well, it looks good. You've done some good work on these.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 7: Well, I'm having fun with it. And AI is controversial
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 7: to me. And during one of the breaks, I did
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 7: go in and ask AI about the symptoms that I
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 7: had way back, you know, 2008, whatever. And you should
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 7: have seen what it said. I am surprised, Doc and Bill,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 7: that an ambulance didn't pull up because it was almost
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 7: like an OMG, get to the ER right now.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: Well, Google got caught doing that a long time ago
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: by the British Journal of Medicine several years back. And
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: that's how it's designed. And they, you know, they get
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: their wrists slapped and they keep doing it. But a
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 2: lot of people, they see that in writing and that's it.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised it didn't ask you if you were already deceased.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 7: Well, it was interesting. Then I went in and asked it,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 7: how did I phrase that? I've already closed that window.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 7: I went in and asked it if abdominal adhesions were curable. Well, no,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 7: not really. And most surgeons won't do this, you know,
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 7: and If it's not symptomatic, there's no need for surgery.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 7: And if it is, you know, they won't do surgery
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 7: because doing surgery causes it. And I'm like, aren't you smart?
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 2: How funny.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 7: But. you know, Doc, that should really insult you. Like
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 7: you were saying earlier about all the years you put
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 7: into schooling, you know, while working. And then some stupid
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 7: program comes along and it's practicing medicine.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: Well it only bothers me when they act like they
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: already have all the answers but they still come to
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: me so i'm thinking if you already know everything and
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 2: you've already googled it to death why are you here
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: oh because none of that worked and none of it
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: applied and you know that that they do stupid stuff
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: and people they panic uh i've i've had so many
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: people do things because their family put pressure on them
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: and many times it was a bad bad thing to
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: do a lot of a lot of bad things we
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: um very sad thing happened one time we we had
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: a somebody that asked us to see their family member
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: and we did And I always warn people because the
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: therapist is going to get in there and do that
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: deep tissue work and getting fully adjusted from head to toe.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: Your world gets rocked a little bit and you're going
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: to be really sore. But don't panic. Don't do anything ridiculous.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 2: You know, well, that doesn't always work. And this one
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: time I had lots of phone calls where they would
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: tell me they thought the therapist killed them. But this
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: one time they were in a lot of pain. And
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: they went to the ER. And they never left the hospital.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: And it just broke my heart because we treated her
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: and she was fine. And I warned them, you know,
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 2: you're going to be sore. We're doing things your body
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: has never had done to you. And I do it
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: really thorough. I mean, I do it from head to toe.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: Nobody I know does what I do anymore. And only
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: a couple of people do. in all my years, ever
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: did like me. And one of them was such a
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: good businessman that he doesn't have to practice anymore. He's
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: made so much money. But it's very sad. People look
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: at all that stuff. They believe all that stuff. And
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: too many times people have gone to the ER and
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: got admitted to the hospital when they could have called
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: me And they never left. And it eats at me
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: so bad. And it's so sad because I know I
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 2: could have helped. And I didn't get a chance to.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: I had a lady tell me in the past I
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: had even made a house call. And this poor gentleman,
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: they took him in a panic one night. And he
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: never left. So I can understand when you Google on
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: that stuff. The way it was explained to me years ago,
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: Google got in trouble according to the British Journal of
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: Medicine because when you Googled it, you had the worst
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: case scenario and it always brought you back to the
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: pharmacy and the hospital and the ER, that kind of stuff.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 2: And as you found out, They even told you the
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 2: surgery probably caused it.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 7: So you should look at the placemat. The girl has aged.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 2: The girl has aged? Mine is still the same one.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: How'd she grow up so fast? Let me do something. Oh, no,
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 2: I just refreshed it. It's still the same girl.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: I think you're holding out on me or something.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 7: It's the same girl, but I added age to her.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 7: I'm not going to tell you how many years.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: It finally showed up. I see that.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: That's fine. I don't, I don't, I don't think a
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: woman hits any kind of prime until she's at least 40. Um,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 2: at least that that's anything below that. And they're just,
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: they're not the same. Um, But after that, things are good.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: Things are good. All right, Bill, anything? We're rambling over
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: here about Susie and her Googling.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 3: No, I'm just listening.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: And you knew, like me, when she Googled it, it
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: was going to come back and, you know, like I
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: used to tease people. They'd say, what do my x-rays say?
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: And it says the deceased looks really good. And they said, huh?
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 3: Yep. Makes a difference.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: Well, we used to tell them when I was an
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: intern that the number one thing is that you never
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 2: hurt the doctor. People are funny because you can warn people.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: and clown around with them, and they'll take that stuff
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: serious sometimes, and you won't know it. I remember I
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: treated this lady for, she was married to my friend
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: down the road, and I had warned her, you're going
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 2: to be sore, and, you know, I joked around and said, well,
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: you know, don't worry because I'm not going to feel
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: a thing, and Just silly stuff, trying to get them
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: to relax and loosen up. And he told me months
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: later that that bothered her. I had no clue. It
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: was just one of those little things you do to
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: get people to relax. Then one time, years and years ago,
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 2: somebody that I helped a whole bunch and was feeling
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 2: so good that she wanted one of our shirts from
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 2: the office. And then another time we had treated her,
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 2: and she was in bad shape. I said, you're going
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 2: to be pretty sore, but you'll be okay. If you
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 2: have any questions, call me. Well, she got in a
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: panic because she was sore the next day and went
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: to some doctor. And the doctor, without knowing anything about
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: what I do or what I did, told her something about,
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 2: I had done something wrong or too much or some
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: silly stuff. And hers was a beautiful, perfect treatment. And
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 2: she would have been a lot better if she had
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: just waited a day. Because the first day, they're usually
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: sore if they have never been treated. And her husband
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: knew better, but he couldn't say nothing. So just a
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: couple little things like that throughout the almost 30 years,
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: you know, so I guess you're not doing too bad
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 2: if you only got a few like that. Anyway, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not Google doctoring nothing.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I didn't, I didn't Google per se. I, um,
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  Speaker 7: I ate, I ate, I did.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's nice. I'm glad we grew up
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: without cell phones and computers so much. But it is nice.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 2: There's times you want to look something up or refresh
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: your memory on something you knew once. And it's nice
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 2: that we don't have to go look at fish tape
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: in the library or microfilm. It is great to see
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: some things are improved. But I don't regret growing up
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: without cell phones anymore. And I don't regret growing up
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 2: without computers. I think we did just fine. We used
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 2: to play as soon as we got whatever chores were
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 2: done until you had to come in and go to
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 2: the bathroom or eat. I mean, and nobody ever knew
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  Speaker 2: where we were. So I'm not ever wishing that I
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 2: would have grew up any different. I think we did fine.
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  Speaker 5: All right, guys.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: Well, we are at that time of the night. Susie,
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: anything you'd like to close up with besides that elder
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 2: touch you put on your young girl?
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 7: Whatever. Um, you know, I, I watched some of Senator
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 7: Johnson's hearing and, uh, it, it just talk about things
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 7: that happened in the past unresolved. It made me so angry. Now, uh,
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 7: I don't want to bring up the treatment, the COVID
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 7: treatment that these doctors were talking about. All I want
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 7: to bring up, and y'all can go to just Google
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 7: Senator Ron Johnson hearing on COVID. The fatalities, if they
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 7: went with the regimen that was dictated to them, was crazy.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 7: one doctor got on there and of course he did
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 7: a different avoided that treatment and he had zero deaths
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 7: but at one point they brought it up again all
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 7: this stuff we used to say back in the day
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 7: the hospital's put you in there, and then if they
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 7: put you on remdesivir and the ventilator, they made more money.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 7: I think that was $ 40, 000 per patient. But the kick
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 7: in the teeth was these doctors were admitting to this
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 7: committee that if you died, they made even more money.
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 7: What was the motivation to heal? Yeah, really.
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 2: Bill, anything you want to close with?
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 3: No, I'm good.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 2: I really like what you touched on tonight and dealing
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: with anger that might have been there forever.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 7: Me too.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: Really cool stuff. And I know our audience loves all that.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 2: All right, guys. Well, I guess we're at that time.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 2: Next week, I'm going to touch a little bit we
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 2: ran out of time tonight but there's been a lot
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 2: of push on weight loss and a lot of drugs
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: out there like ozembic and wagovi and the damage they're
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 2: causing and uh finally medierb came up with a new
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: product and everybody talks about the um the GLP, which
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 2: is glucagon-like protein, and these medications that they take that
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: are supposed to deal with your satiety so you're not
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 2: hungry and full and you lose weight. And all them
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: things are bad, and one common thing almost all these
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: medications have as a warning is if you get suicidal thoughts.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 7: Mm-hmm.
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 2: Which went well with Bill's topic tonight. But if you
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: get suicidal thoughts, you're probably the last person that can
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: help you at that moment. You need some help. And
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: a lot of times it's the medication, and they're telling people, well,
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 2: call your doctor. Yeah, sure, you gave me this crap,
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: and now I'm thinking about killing myself. And it says
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 2: that on the paperwork, so I'm calling you. Not a
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 2: good thing. But anyways, Mediherb came up with a GLP-1
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 2: Bitter Complex. I forget what all the name is. Let
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 2: me see if I have it here real quick. Let's see.
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 2: I don't see it in front of me at the moment,
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 2: but they have a new product that just came out yesterday. Oh, yeah,
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 2: GLP-1 Bitter Complex, standard process midi herb. And it does
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 2: it naturally and helps your body the right way not
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 2: mess with your liver and thyroid and kidneys and adrenals
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 2: and all that stuff and cause you suicidal thoughts, so.
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 2: We'll try to talk a little bit about that next
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 2: week because a lot of people are worried about losing weight.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 2: They'd like to do it a different way, and this
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 2: is a brand-new product that I think it just officially
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: aired yesterday, and it probably won't even be available until
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: middle October. But something to look at if you guys
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 2: are interested. Anyway, it is that time of the night.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: I'd like to thank Susie and Bill. Without them... we
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: would be a ship without a rudder and I'm so
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 2: grateful they're here and I know how much you guys
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: all love them like I do and we're grateful that
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 2: all of you are out there we had again I
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 2: forget how many nations but it was a lot a
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 2: lot of people call us from all over this country
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 2: and it is an honor and a privilege to help
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: in any way and entertain you maybe put a smile
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: on your face and give you some food for thought
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 2: and uh Maybe after hearing Suzy's thing, you won't be
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 2: AI-ing or Googling to find out what's wrong with you
• 2:02:49
  Speaker 2: because that's not going to help you in most cases.
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: But anyway, may God bless you all with health and happiness.
• 2:02:59
  Speaker 2: Keep your lives peaceful, free, and safe. And it is
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 2: that time. Suzy even put it in my office for
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 2: good scotch. Good cigars and good night.
• 2:03:14
  Speaker 3: Good night, all.
• 2:03:15
  Speaker 7: Good night, everyone. God bless.
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 11: Seems the love I've known has always been the most
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 11: destructive kind. Guess that's why now I feel so old
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 11: before my time. Yesterday, when I was.
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 3: Young, the taste of life was sweet.
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 11: As rain upon my tongue, I teased at life as
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 11: if it were a foolish game. The way the evening
• 2:03:55
  Speaker 11: breeze may tease a candle flame, the thousand dreams I dreamed, the.
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: Splendid things I planned, I always.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 3: Built to last.
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 11: I live by night and shun the naked light of day.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 11: And only now I see how the years ran away. Yesterday,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 11: when I was young, so many happy.
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 2: Songs were waiting to be sung.
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 11: So many.