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Ravens vs Falcons - SNF Sunday Sweatdown | NFL Week 5 | DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go. Clear for liftoff. What is going on?
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  Speaker 1: Shippin Nation YouTube station back with the Sunday sweat down
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  Speaker 1: with my main man Hamwich here. Loves himself some 49ers defense.
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: Loves himself some Ali Gordon. Still not going to ship
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  Speaker 1: any millions, but hey, here we are. We're back. We're
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  Speaker 1: ready to break it down and sweat some contest out
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  Speaker 1: with the community here and then get into this glorious
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  Speaker 1: Sunday night football game here with the Lamar Jackson list.
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  Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, and the Bichon-driven Atlanta Falcons. Should be a
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  Speaker 1: fun one to break down. Ham, I'll bring you in, man.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on, brother? Happy Sunday. Excited to be back
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  Speaker 1: with you. We got baseball on the television tonight. Packers
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  Speaker 1: put the little belt to ass to the Bears and said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson, hey, shut your mouth once. Let's do this. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and I mean that 75-point total, right, in Arizona and,
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  Speaker 1: Detroit is not living up to the hype at least
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  Speaker 1: on one side of the one side of the ball
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  Speaker 1: right where all the chalk went the the the chalk
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  Speaker 1: chalk cardinals right but what's going on man excited to
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  Speaker 1: to be on here yeah excited to.
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  Speaker 2: Be on here is a good early morning Trey Harris
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  Speaker 2: going into the locker room so that's gonna that's gonna
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: ruin some lineups right there Trey going in but Man,
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: I couldn't get enough Ollie. They just don't feature Ollie.
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  Speaker 2: Let Ollie cook. And he wasn't doing it. That was
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  Speaker 2: the ham special of the day, 50 yards over plus.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, but he couldn't cook. I need Michael Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: I need somebody to put an APB out for Michael
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  Speaker 2: Wilson to see where he is because I've not seen
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  Speaker 2: him play today. I've seen about seven receivers for the
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  Speaker 2: Cardinals I've never heard of catch passes, and he's only
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  Speaker 2: caught one. But, yeah, we'll sweat some of these down.
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  Speaker 2: We'll look over on DraftKings. And then, yeah, the Lamar
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  Speaker 2: Jackson list– Ravens, talk about them here in a little
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  Speaker 2: bit as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, should be a fun one here. Appreciate everyone tuning
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  Speaker 1: in here. Sean Sully, Jim Shuhart, Rance. Yeah, Rance says, Yero,
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  Speaker 1: the game this morning was a mega chop there with
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  Speaker 1: the Jacksonville game. Yeah, could be more of the same here.
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  Speaker 1: At least we know a lot of the builds are
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  Speaker 1: going to be Falcons heavy, probably for a good reason, right?
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  Speaker 1: We saw Lamar List Ravens last year, they looked absolutely abysmal.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see what happens here. But I think it still
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  Speaker 1: should be a decent game overall. I think there's some
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  Speaker 1: ways to get contrarian, get unique, even with kind of
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  Speaker 1: slamming Bijan in there. So it should be fun here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Marv isn't clearing it out for Wilson. Yeah, Maserati Marv
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  Speaker 1: isn't clearing out anything but his fucking locker room. I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you that. That's about the only thing. he's clearing out.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, the only thing he's getting separation from
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  Speaker 1: is nothing because he can't even get separation from the
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  Speaker 1: own team. Like that tweet said earlier today. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: finally the news came out, right? He's going to Houston.
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  Speaker 1: So CJ Stroud reunited with his locker room buddy from
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  Speaker 1: college should be fun there. His shower buddy. We'll see if,
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  Speaker 1: see if the new, the new scenery can get himself
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  Speaker 1: some separation out there in Houston. But, looking at some
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  Speaker 1: of these, uh, the, the mega million here. Um, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Utica just absolutely just stone nut crusher, um, Jameis Winston,
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  Speaker 1: Jameis millions, right? Uh, well, what's your thoughts here? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: here ham on, uh, on the roster construction here. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and this game, obviously this is a 600 person field, four, four, four,
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  Speaker 1: four entry million dollars up top. Um, obviously all the
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  Speaker 1: best players in the world in here. But talk about this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way. There's no way you can't
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  Speaker 1: just go in and full game stack Detroit and Arizona
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  Speaker 1: and not lose the million dollars, right? There's no way.
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  Speaker 1: But what's your thoughts here?
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  Speaker 2: My first thought is, oh, man, Malik Nabors is going
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  Speaker 2: to win somebody a million bucks. And then I go
• 4:47
  Speaker 2: through his lineup and Malik's not going to be found.
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  Speaker 2: Malik's nowhere to be found. I mean, yeah, you see it.
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  Speaker 2: Like obviously you have Jameis with the tight end that
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  Speaker 2: blew up. You got to, you got to run back.
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  Speaker 2: That's cheap. So that fits. Then you got the bears
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  Speaker 2: Packers and then yeah. Jalen Warren. I mean, yeah. And then,
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  Speaker 2: and then, and then Gibbs who can do no wrong.
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  Speaker 2: So man, there's obviously a lot of games left and,
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  Speaker 2: if this Arizona game gets into a shootout, I'd imagine
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  Speaker 2: he could lose it. But if he wins, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: hats off to him. Not something that I would get to,
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  Speaker 2: but that's why he's Yuta. And I'm not because he's
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  Speaker 2: the man. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Our guy, Bobby Gomes here. My, my fellow friend, Bobby
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  Speaker 1: Gomes here has a nice team up there as well.
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  Speaker 2: He's kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Relying on Trey Harris, like the rest of the field
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  Speaker 1: is in the locker room. Yeah. So I know Tambo
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  Speaker 1: was in here as well. Tambo, Kyler Murray team thrown
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  Speaker 1: in there. Chris Olave got missed deep for a deep
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  Speaker 1: one there. I saw that. Pretty hard when Hawkinson gets
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  Speaker 1: hit in the head first play and goes out. He
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  Speaker 1: mid the catch at least, but got hit in the head, right?
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  Speaker 1: Went out of there. So Tambo, unfortunately, unfortunately holding Trey
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  Speaker 1: Harris in both lineups as well, but hopefully he can
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  Speaker 1: hold on to a couple of min caches here. I
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: know he gets typically min caches, right? You're not looking
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  Speaker 1: for min caches overall, but When you get in on
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  Speaker 1: tickets like Tambo did playing baseball this week, always nice
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  Speaker 1: to secure 14 grand plus in some ticket entries there.
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  Speaker 1: But anyone in the chat have some concepts that they
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  Speaker 1: got a nice lineup? They want us to pull up
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  Speaker 1: here and kind of take through as the game of
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  Speaker 1: the century is in a halftime here with the Cardinals
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  Speaker 1: in Detroit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead. What about those two catches today that
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: Watson had one and chase Jamar chase had the other,
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  Speaker 2: those were two phenomenal catches. And then what a, like
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  Speaker 2: what a bunch of boneheads in that giants game, like
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  Speaker 2: Cam Scadaboo one. And then what was, what was Jaden
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  Speaker 2: Daniels doing at the end?
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  Speaker 1: Like, I mean, yeah, I don't know what Jaden Daniels
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  Speaker 1: was doing, but more so, I don't know what the
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  Speaker 1: fuck these coaches are doing. I mean, my gosh, like
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  Speaker 1: the coaches are just absolutely insane. Like even Ben Johnson today, like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell is going on. Like
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  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson today running an end around from the fucking
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  Speaker 1: red zone. Like I swear, like he's obviously insane, insane
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  Speaker 1: play caller, just obviously really good coach in general. Right.
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  Speaker 1: No shocker there. Everyone would agree, but some of the
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  Speaker 1: moves that Ben Johnson made today were just kind of
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  Speaker 1: like head scratching. It's almost like he's trying to be too,
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  Speaker 1: too flashy and outsmart everybody, including himself in the red zone. When,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just fucking turn around and hand the ball
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  Speaker 1: off to Deandre Swift fucking four times in the red zone.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: But no, he's in shotgun with fucking Tyson Badgett running
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  Speaker 1: end arounds and bullshit like that. I mean, Roshan Johnson
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  Speaker 1: is getting lion's share of the carries. Like just, it
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  Speaker 1: was pretty, pretty head scratching in general. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if there's one lesson to be learned so far, In
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, man, these NFL coaches are something else. What's
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're something else. Oh, we've got to pick. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: it's P.I. Yeah, they're insane. And I'm $ 25 million poorer, Nades.
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  Speaker 2: I had the Cowboys on Thursday night, those jabronis, with
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  Speaker 2: 40% of the field. I think they're down to 3,000 people.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm out of the circle, which stinks. But, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Todd Bowles, go up 17% Or go for it. I mean, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: It's just head-scratching that they make these plays or make
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  Speaker 2: these calls. Any given Sunday, I guess, Nades. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw this too, right? Packers just go out there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Matt LaFleur is too fucking stupid anyways to
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  Speaker 1: do that. I know Ben Johnson right runs his mouth
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  Speaker 1: and all of that. As shitty as Matt LaFleur, at
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  Speaker 1: least he keeps his mouth shut for the most part. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Packers just continue to get injured. I saw
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  Speaker 1: Hargrave tore his Achilles. So another Achilles injury for the
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  Speaker 1: Packers defense. And just injuries in general just continue to
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  Speaker 1: warp the NFL here. I mean, just continue. There's more
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  Speaker 1: and more guys going down. Again, obviously, Hawkinson went out early.
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  Speaker 1: Some defensive guys went out. Just injury. Aaron Jones went
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  Speaker 1: to the tent, came back, and did the Undertaker gift, right,
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  Speaker 1: and said, hold on. let me get back and score
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  Speaker 1: some points here. Um, but yeah, that's, I mean, that's
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  Speaker 1: one thing for, for sure. Um, these injuries, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I just, I don't know what the, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what the solution is here, Ham, uh, on these injuries.
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  Speaker 1: We see it week in and week out, all these
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  Speaker 1: injuries coming to play here.
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  Speaker 2: Too many injuries.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You hate to see it, especially to the, the, the
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  Speaker 2: superstars or anybody, but the superstars, what makes the game
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  Speaker 2: not as good. And, yeah. Who else? I feel like
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  Speaker 2: someone else got hurt today, but I can't think of it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell him that I didn't know that Hargrave, but
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: the Packers, Nate's the Packers. The season's over. No Parsons. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: they're tied with the bears three and two. Who would have,
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  Speaker 2: who would have thought of the mighty bears and the
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: Packers both have the same record better than the lions
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  Speaker 2: and um, obviously trailing the Vikings who haven't lost yet,
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  Speaker 2: but they can catch them. Uh, so yeah, looking forward
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  Speaker 2: to see what the Packers can do. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I, I, I didn't have high expectations because
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  Speaker 1: I knew our offensive line was going to be bullshit,
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  Speaker 1: but what did they do first time ever in the
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  Speaker 1: history of, uh, I think green Bay went out and
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  Speaker 1: actually signed some dudes instantly to try and make a, make,
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  Speaker 1: make a switch. Right. So they got, they signed a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of, uh, veteran, um, guys out there and Jordan
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  Speaker 1: Love actually looked fairly confident back there because he had
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  Speaker 1: some bodies that could actually give them more than a
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  Speaker 1: half a second to throw the fucking football, which was nice.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, hopefully, hopefully that can keep it up. But
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I knew that bears defense was, was pretty,
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  Speaker 1: pretty Swiss cheese anyways, in general, I know their rankings
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  Speaker 1: would say otherwise since week two, they were number one
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  Speaker 1: in the league overall team defense and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: But I just don't think that defense is very good
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  Speaker 1: in general. So, That's why I was very heavily on
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  Speaker 1: the Jordan Love side. I was heavy on that game
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  Speaker 1: in general. I had like 80-some percent DeAndre Swift. I
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  Speaker 1: had a ton of Luther Burden, Loveland. I was in
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  Speaker 1: on that game big time. That was my favorite game
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  Speaker 1: on the slate outside of obviously everybody's favorite game, but
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: I was looking for other games. My two favorite games
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: on the slate besides the obvious one in Detroit and
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: Arizona was the Green Bay-Chicago game just because, again, I
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: think Green Bay's defense is pretty weak. I think Chicago's
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: defense is pretty weak. Love was at home. Weather was nice.
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  Speaker 1: It was easy to kind of stack them up. You know,
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: it's Watson, Golden and Kraft. Really, those three guys kind
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  Speaker 1: of lead. So it's pretty condensed target tree on the
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  Speaker 1: other side as well. And then the Drake May stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I was in on that game pretty heavily, more so
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  Speaker 1: on the on the May side of it. But those
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: were two games that I was really heavily involved in.
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  Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift. getting 17, which doesn't kill you. But when
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  Speaker 1: Jalen Warren goes out there and just nukes the slate
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: at a similar price point and just absolutely drops his
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: ball bag on everyone, pretty hard to kind of go
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  Speaker 1: absolutely nuclear in terms of your portfolio when you have
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: 80% DeAndre Swift and he gets dwarfed like that. But overall,
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: I thought it was pretty sharp way to play this slate.
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: And Gibbs, Gibbs was the main guy I was in
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  Speaker 1: on in that afternoon game because Gibbs can do it
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  Speaker 1: in any way. And We actually saw Gibbs' ownership kind
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: of moonwalk back. And the reason being, I think, is
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: because we had all this mid-tier running back stuff open up, right?
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift went with Noma Nungai at 6,200. And so
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: many people wanted to play Wilson and McBride that it
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: was hard to fit in Jameer Gibbs. It really was.
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  Speaker 1: The more you kind of started building teams and when
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: this other stuff kind of picked up with injury news
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  Speaker 1: and stuff. So that's one kind of lesson that I
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  Speaker 1: pulled away. Now, Gibbs isn't obviously unowned, but I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he was projected to be mega, mega chalk going into
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  Speaker 1: the weekend. And he ended up in like most of
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  Speaker 1: the stuff, sub 30 percent. I mean, even in high stakes,
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: like the high stakes mega here, as you see on
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: Utah's as you see on Utah's team here. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: even in high stakes, a 600 person contest or 634 entrance. Right.
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  Speaker 1: 30 percent for Gibbs. I mean, he was projected to
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  Speaker 1: be 50, 50. Right. So that's one thing I saw
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  Speaker 1: that I thought shocked me a little bit was Jameer
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  Speaker 1: Gibbs kind of getting held in check. And I think
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  Speaker 1: it's because so many other running back plays open up, right?
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  Speaker 1: The Jalen Warrens, the Swifts of the world. There's some
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  Speaker 1: other guys, Aaron Jones and things that I'm missing in
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  Speaker 1: there as well. But any, any thoughts on that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you had a bunch of, you had a bunch
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: of running backs. We talked about on the show this
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  Speaker 2: morning that, that Matt and I did tons of running backs.
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  Speaker 2: Gibbs is obviously Gibbs, but he's also 9,800 bucks. So, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: if you had Trey McBride as the third best tight
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  Speaker 2: end on the Cardinals today, tip your cap to you. But,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Ollie Gordon, even Ollie Gordon, somebody like that
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  Speaker 2: who no one was playing, like he had a good day.
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  Speaker 2: So the running back position was strong today. But, like
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  Speaker 2: you said, Swift with no Manunga, Warren with no Dowdle,
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  Speaker 2: and Braylon Allen who's basically getting 100% of those targets.
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  Speaker 2: You just had a lot of running backs that weren't
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  Speaker 2: going to play a bunch of snaps with not a
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: lot of competition. So, yeah. So you had to nail
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  Speaker 2: running back in order to kind of be in the
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  Speaker 2: in the running.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. Just taking a look at some
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: of these other contests, the three dollar twenty max here,
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  Speaker 1: just not it. But like even then, I mean, you
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: can still get there with Swift. Swift didn't kill you.
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  Speaker 1: He's not the reason you lost or won money today.
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  Speaker 1: It's really what what unlocked it was obviously the Winston stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: That Giants Washington game. Overtime obviously helped there in Giants
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  Speaker 1: scoring late. Another pick there from the Niners D. Shout
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: out to you, right? Niners D just kind of dunking
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  Speaker 1: on these guys over here.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, they got another pick?
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they just picked it off.
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  Speaker 2: Gosh, you're way ahead of me.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: Lions just lost another dude on defense here. Another injury there. But, yeah,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, overall– We're going to see very similar stuff
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: on all kind of the winners here.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Talk a little bit about late swap. Like late swap
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  Speaker 2: to me was tough today. I mean, but did you
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: do any late swapping or did you kind of play
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: it out?
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: So, again, I was kind of under, not under, but
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I was kind of like field level max with that
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: Cardinals and Detroit game. Outside of Gibbs, I have like
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: 65% Gibbs in my portfolio today. I had some McBride,
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: but I had a shit ton of Bowers and some
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: of the other pivots. Obviously, I was so heavily in
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: on the Drake May and Jordan Love stuff. Those are
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: my two highest owned quarterbacks on the entire slate. They're
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: just because I play a lot of larger field stuff,
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: even my single entry stuff, $ 50 single entry and $ 27
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: single entries. And all of those are kind of bigger
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  Speaker 1: fields in general. So I just knew you would have
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: had to be perfect. And There's a scenario, right? We've
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  Speaker 1: seen this play out before that. There's scenarios where even
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: the Detroit and Arizona game could go nuclear, right? And
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: you still could get away with having a piece or
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: two or three pieces from there and have your quarterback
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: plus two with a runback or quarterback plus three and
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: two runbacks. Something like that, right, can still kind of
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  Speaker 1: outdo it is kind of how I approach the slate.
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  Speaker 1: So from a late swap perspective, I didn't have a
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: ton of late swapping that I did personally myself. The
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Trey Harris was with the Ladd-McConkie news that came out.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: I thought about that, but then I was like, I
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: think if anything, that's just going to hold Trey Harris'
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  Speaker 1: ownership in check. Hindsight, well, it didn't really do anything.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: It really didn't do anything. Holy run.
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  Speaker 2: Kamani Vidal? What?
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: That was a big boy run there. Kamani Vidal. Kamani Vidal.
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  Speaker 1: He just ran through the whole line.
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  Speaker 2: But anyways. Wow, Gary Sanders Jr.? Hey, Bo Nix is terrible, Nades.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: That guy stinks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, everyone crowned Bo Nix fucking MVP for
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the future last season before he obviously broke his ankle
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  Speaker 1: there in the playoffs. But, yeah, going back to the
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  Speaker 1: late swap here, Trey Harris would have been the piece
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  Speaker 1: that I would have kind of contemplated late swapping. Overall,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: it's just where I had exposure to the Detroit, Arizona stuff,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I was already in a good enough position to kind
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: of hold that because I was so heavy on Jordan
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Love and Drake May and those other games that where
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I was heavy in on the chalk games, I was
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: already differentiated enough. So that's where late swap didn't really
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: play a big factor into my portfolio on this weekend.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: But late swap, I think, was just overall pretty tough
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: on the slate in general just because of only having
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: three afternoon games and the pricing, right. The way the
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: pricing shook up. It would have, if anything, I would
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: have swapped off of more McBride and some Michael Wilson
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but I was already under on
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: them to start. So that's kind of how I approached
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: late swap there. How'd you kind of approach it?
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Honestly, I didn't do much. I mean, I didn't
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: do a whole lot. It was tough because to me,
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: there wasn't much outside of, you know, the one game,
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: the Cardinals game you had, you know, JSN, CMC, and then,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: you know, Trey Harris and the folks like that, but
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I kind of liked a lot of this stuff early,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: like I had, you know, if you looked at my
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: core over at Ship and Nation, I mean, I was
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: on May, I was on Gibbs, obviously, like you said,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: I was on Bowers, Jalen Warren, and then Michael Wilson,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: so I had a pretty good morning with May, Warren,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: and Bowers, and then I had Gibbs and Wilson in
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: the afternoon, who I was pretty confident in as well,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: so There wasn't much late swapping for me to do.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I'm up there in a lot of these tournaments, need
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Michael Wilson to pick it up to cash in and
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: win one. But for me, there wasn't much late swap
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: that I did in my teams. Yeah, that's kind of
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: how I saw it too.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: And it's just sometimes, I mean, sometimes late swap plays
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: a bigger role when we have kind of a couple
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: games in the afternoon where there goes Gibbs. That dude
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: is just so good, man. Like I swear the Lions
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: could just give Gibbs the ball every single time and
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: it'd probably do them just fine, you know, just scheme
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Gibbs every time. And they obviously do that, but yeah,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's just, he's just a freak, but yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, late swap is obviously a great conversation. but
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: this particular slate, the way the morning shook up when again,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: everybody knew going into the slate, right. Detroit, Arizona is
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: the game of the week. You can't miss spot. The
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: plays look great. Everybody was preloaded with, with Wilson McBride, um,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Berset with either a Monro Gibbs, Laporta, uh, JMO on
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the runback are two of them guys that Drake may,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: speaking of Amon, rather goes, there goes his fumble, but
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: they were just so heavy on that game that they
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: were most, so many people missed out on the Drake
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: may ceiling, the Jordan love the, the Jameis Winston stuff from,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: from the morning games that I just don't think people
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: had enough room to really late swap around outside of
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: maybe a Jameer Gibbs. That's probably why you saw, Wilson
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and McBride's ownership stay and even probably steam more so
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: than Jameer Gibbs and Gibbs kind of moonwalking back because
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: more people probably, um, adjusted down from Gibbs. And then when, uh, went,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: went to kind of some of those other, other plays there. Um,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: but especially when, when you're kind of chasing the Jalen
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Warren game, right. Um, so that, that's kind of what
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: my take is there, but let's go ahead and jump
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: into the Sunday night game here. Um, We have the
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: initial projections loaded, our initial stone, as you see here.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Up on the screen, Ham, actually, let's go ahead. Let
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: me go ahead and share the stone 2.0 here, actually,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: now that we have it. What's your initial broad slate
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: overview for the Sunday night football game here as we head? Wow.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Wow. That was a GPP special of the day. Jamison Williams.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Let's go, baby. Yeah.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Jamo. Um, you know, it was a matter of time
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: before him, but, um, in terms of this game here, Ham,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: let's jump in, start talking Sunday night football. Uh, we
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: got about 40 minutes or so until inactives will hit 30, 30,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: 40 minutes, something like that. Um, we'll stick around. There
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: is some news to wait around, right? We do obviously
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: know Lamar Jackson is out, but we have Zay Flowers questionable. Um,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Outside of that, you've got Marlon Humphrey, who's questionable, which
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't matter a ton, but it does matter for guys
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: like Drake London, who obviously a bunch of the field
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: wants to play here in terms of that. But what's
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: your overall thought here, Atlanta? Three-point favorites on this one, 43.5-point
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: total overall here, and obviously we know Tyler Huntley is
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: making the start here. What's your broad slate overview?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. My Boston overview is that we saw the Falcons
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: in the first two weeks. They looked like they couldn't
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: beat anybody. We're very bad. Then they go Thursday night
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: to green Bay. They get their quarterback and all of
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: a sudden they look very good. It looked very good
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: on Thursday night. It looked very good on Monday night,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: running the ball, the Robinson brothers, B John and Brian,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: just absolutely cutting up. Then they're going to mix in
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: some Drake London as well. Michael Penance hadn't turned the
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: ball over, been very good. Offenses looked very good. And
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: what happens when the offense starts humming the defense, all
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: of a sudden naturally gets better. So, Falcons rolling. We
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: saw them in back-to-back primetime games. Now they're on a
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: third straight primetime game. Going up against a Lamar Jackson-less
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Ravens teams, as you alluded to. So they're going to
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: be popular again tonight, right? Are you going to play
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Brian Robinson again? B. John's definitely getting played, but are
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: you playing Brian Robinson? A little bit different of an
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: animal with the Ravens defense. We know what Kyle Hamilton
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: and those guys can do. You got Derrick Henry on
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: the other side. Me personally, I'm kind of staying away
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: from this Ravens passing game. We've seen this movie before, Nades,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: with Snoop Huntley at quarterback. Reminds me of Malik Willis 2.0.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: He's going to run it. He's going to pass it
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: about 125 yards, and they're going to rely on Derrick Henry.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: The problem there, though, is that the Ravens offensive line
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: is beat up. Their center, one of them is in
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Las Vegas. One of them is on the shelf. So
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: what they do, they move the rookie tackle over to
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: the center position. We saw what happened last week against
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the Mighty Titans. They couldn't get DeHan rolling under 60
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: yards rushing. So to me, The Falcons are going to
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: win this game. I'm going to heavily build my teams
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: favoring that way, but also the field, I believe, is
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: going to do that as well. So that's kind of
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: my broad slate overview. I'm big on the Falcons, not
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: so big on the Ravens tonight.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not a shock by any means, right? That's
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: kind of how everyone is going to see it. 4-2 heavy.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Falcons is going to kind of lead the slate with 5-1.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Falcons kind of going to be probably around 15, 15%
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: or so of lineups, 15 to 20%, something like that.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I do think you kind of see an increase in
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Bijan and Brian Robinson together, especially with how we've seen
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: these showdown slates have gone.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: This is our third Atlanta showdown slate in a row
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: on it. So I kind of see it as more
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: of a competitive game. I kind of think it plays similar.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I think Baltimore will be able to score overall. I
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: just I think they're going to be able to get
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: it done. And at least move the ball and score
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: enough that I don't really like five ones very much.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: And I'm kind of giving more credit to some of
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the Baltimore plays here. But in terms of captains, let's
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: jump right in here and talk about captains. Obviously, in
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: terms of the dry run, right, I run dry run
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: projections wise. It's obviously B's on number one. No, no
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: surprise there. I get about 70% Bijan captain just with
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: one unique projected score, no shock. And then Drake London
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: is number two. So anyone really outside of Drake London
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and Bijan, you're going to be contrarian in the captain position.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: How are you going to approach those two guys in particular,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Bijan being 17-7, Drake London being 14-7? And then really,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, from a skill position standpoint, nobody's going to
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Derek Henry. Nobody's going to Zay Flowers. nobody's going to
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: play any of these. I mean, if anybody plays a
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: skill position guy from the Ravens up top, I think
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: it's going to be Snoop Huntley at 13.2 K in
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the captain position here, just with his rushing upside. I mean,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: from the props perspective, he's got 174 and a half
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: passing yard, pretty heavy juice to the over there. But
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: in terms of his rushing yards, right. I mean, I
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: don't know what his, I don't see his, rushing prop
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: off the top of my head here, but you have
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: to assume. Yeah. I mean, he's got a five and
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: a half rushing prop in terms of rushing attempts, juice
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: down the over. So he's got some floor built in
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: on the, on the rushing. We've seen some of these
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: other guys like a case Keenum get up there in
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: a kind of similar situation, right? Backup quarterback. How do
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: you see the captain position overall?
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. With, with the lack of, with the lack of
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of cheap plays, You're going to have to
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: find some salary somewhere. So I'll start with Snoop Huntley.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I don't like him as an NFL quarterback.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Hold on one second, one second, one second. Michael Wilson
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: just made a catch. All right, continue.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: You scared me. I thought something happened. I don't like
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Snoop Huntley as a quarterback, but when I'm trying to
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: find salary at 13-2, they price these guys with Lamar
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Jackson in. So you're getting a starting quarterback with rushing upside.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I think he rushes for about 50,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: throws for about buck 50. Can he get two in there?
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: So I don't hate Snoop Huntley if you're going down
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: from a quarterback position. I actually like him a little
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: bit better than Phoenix because you're getting rushing upside with him,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: and you're also getting a little bit of discount. But
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: for me, it's B. John Robinson, 17-7 to lead the way.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, in a dome, at home, he can catch it.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: He can obviously run it. So B. John would be
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: my number one. And then the only other captain, like
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: skill position-wise, is Drake London, Nades. With the two games
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: that he's played with Michael Penix, 194 yards and 96 yards,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: 14 total targets in those two games. So Drake London
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: can get it done. If it is a lower contest,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: like a 17-14 and Drake just goes off, I think
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Drake London's a great spot. But it's Bijon and Drake,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: my top two Falcons. And then Huntley– is going to
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: be my– Huntley is my favorite Raven, a little bit
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: more than Dee Hinn and then a little bit more
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: than Zay Flowers. Let me say one thing about Zay
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Flowers real quick is Zay Flowers had like 120 yards
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: in the first half with Lamar. They slowed down. I
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: totally get it. But he didn't have any catches in
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: the second half last week against the vaunted Titans secondary,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: and that was with Snoop back there.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. I kind of like that breakdown. B.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: John– I'm going to probably play Bijan around the field
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: about 30% or so. He seems really well, obviously. I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: don't need me to really talk about Bijan. As much
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Bijan as you can get is great, obviously, but I
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: do like Derek Henry quite a bit. He's probably my
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: second favorite captain on the slate. The reason being is,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: number one, it flips the script. Number two, Snoop's offense,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I think, relies heavily on Derek Henry here. You look
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: at his rushing prop, 80 and a half rush yards
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: on his prop. I think the game's going to be
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: competitive here. I think Snoop, or I think Derrick Henry,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: and they can start running, they can run some run
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: pass options, things like that with Henry. Everyone sees Atlanta's
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: rush defense, right? This is week five, right? I just,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care what the DVP says at
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: this point of the season. I think Derrick Henry can
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: do it on anyone. He's going to be sub 10%
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: owned on a one game sample when everybody else is
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: playing the Bijan and Drake London on the other side.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: So I actually liked the two captains sandwiched between Bijan
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and Drake London in Derek Henry and Zay Flowers quite
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: a bit. I think Zay Flowers is a spend up
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: to be contrarian. I think everybody sees exactly what you
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: saw last week, Ham. No way Zay Flowers can do it.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: He didn't get Really, any looks in the second half
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: with Snoop Huntley in there, I mean, that's a mid-game
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: kind of adjustment on the fly. Obviously, we know Zay
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: is Lamar's guy. Now Snoop probably had taken a bunch
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: more snaps this week in practice and stuff like that
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: with the banged-up Lamar Jackson. So I think Zay Flowers
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: is kind of interesting up there. The one guy I'm
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: selling on in the captain position here, I think overall,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: is going to be Drake London at 14-7. I think
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: he's just over-owned in this spot in general for me.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: So he's the guy that I think I'm going to
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: be under our weight on. I think he's over-owned for
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: what I'm looking at and seeing his optimal be here overall.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: So that's one guy that I'm selling on. But really,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: my captain pool is going to be heavily condensed around Bijan,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, and then Zay Flowers are kind of the guy.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: And then Tyler Huntley would be the fourth guy that
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I think is interesting, just with the rushing floor here.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And I mean, I like these road underdogs. kind of spots, right?
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: We just saw the same kind of things shake up
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: with Bucky Irving on Thursday night, obviously a much different
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: game in general. The spread is much different, all things,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: but there's no way Bucky Irving could have a good game, right?
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: It's a nine and a half point dog and this
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and that. I mean, while it should happen to the NFL,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just playing the game that at hand and at
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: ownership in these large field tournaments. I just think Henry
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: flowers in the Baltimore side is going to be on
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: their own overall. So my favorite captain, Bijan, Henry, Zay Flowers,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Tyler Huntley are kind of the four main guys that
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at overall. Any thoughts on like a value
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Mark Andrews at 96, 9,600 here?
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: No, not for me. He doesn't have much tread left
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: on the tires. Yeah. I mean, to me, there's not
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: much you can get to. I mean, someone put it
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: in the chat and I 100% agree. The Ravens are
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: not the Packers. They're not the saints, but you know,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: what if they just played smash mouth again and Brian
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Robinson got eight and two touchdowns again, like 8,700, I'm
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: talking large field. I think, I think he's viable, but
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, unless you're going to get cute and do
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: like a, like a kicker or defense, like to me,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: it's tough to get down there that you can't find
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: a whole ton of value.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think Zedaria Smith being out helps a
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: little bit too. For the pass rushing, it makes it
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: a little bit easier on Tyler Huntley. Smith has looked
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: pretty good for Atlanta so far as well. So I
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just playing this. I think Baltimore keeps
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: it closer than what it seems like projections in the
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: field is given credit for. So that's kind of what
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I see there. But, yeah, I mean, Mark Andrews, I
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: think 9,600 feels kind of, expensive for him on this
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: slate with Snoop Huntley there. But again, you could see
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Mark Andrews rack up like eight for 60. And if
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: he gets, he finds his way into the box. I mean,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: you could see him be kind of the optimal guy.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, you look at his props, three and a
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: half reception prop, 30 and a half yards, which isn't great,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: but if he gets that and kind of beats those
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: props and scores a touchdown and what that does for,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: for the roster construction being sub 10 K up top,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: when you look at the value on the slate and
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: it's pretty weak in general, I mean, Austin Hooper is
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: the favorite value play for everyone. And I, and justice Hill, right.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: So I just think if he, if he does that,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's the worst play up top buying
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: in there, but yeah, I think we talked about the
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: captain position enough. It's pretty cut and dry from a
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: captain position overall here, but jumping over to the flex,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: talking to these quarterbacks, Tyler Huntley, 8,800. Michael Penix, 9,400
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: in the flex here. Have to assume Huntley is going
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: to be higher owned than Penix. Just number one, better projection.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Number two, people are so heavily invested in Bijan and
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Drake London right there. Drake London, $ 400 more. I think
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: more people click that name and they're more, they're just
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: going to click Tyler Huntley. I think more so than Penix,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: but how do you see those two in terms of
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: the flex overall?
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Nades, the way I see this game is a
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: ball control, slow down game. I don't see a whole
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: lot of points in this contest personally. So I think
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you're fine with fading one of these quarterbacks, however you
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: want to tell the story. Potentially fading both. I think
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: that's kind of risky. But I guess you could if
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: you're going to build for a low scoring game. So,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I like Pennix. I like Huntley. Pennix has
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: not shown the ability to run so far this year.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Coming off, I think, two. possibly three ACL tears. So
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: he hasn't been running, which lowers his upside in my opinion,
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: especially at 9,400. He's going to throw it to Drake London.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: He's not going to throw it to many other people.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: They're going to run about 10 different wide receiver tight
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: end combos out there. So I don't love Pennix. And
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: then I don't love Huntley, but I love the 8,800
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: and I love his rushing upside and like 200 total yards.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: If he could somehow sneak one or two into the
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: end zone via his legs or the arm, I would
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: like that, but I'm going to build the teams that
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: I build to be lower scoring than more of a
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: shootout type.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. I think in a lower scoring
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: type script, you can definitely get away with playing both
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks here. You're going to get better leverage, like I said,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: on Pennix than Tyler Huntley. I think they're both good.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: You can play both of them for sure easily in
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: this spot. Jumping over to the running back position here,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I think it gets a little more interesting. Obviously, not
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: much really to say about Bijan here, but Bijan– I
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: probably prefer him more so up top when he's 11.8
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: in the flex in general. Henry's also 11K in the flex,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: which is a pretty expensive price point to play overall. But,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, you look at Henry's props, 89.5 rush plus receiving.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Bijan's sitting at 119.5 rushing and receiving. But, really, the
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: talk is more on these RB2s. Justice Hill, I think,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: is going to pick up a decent amount of ownership
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: just because I think so many people are so heavy
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: on the Atlanta focused builds, right? The four, two, five,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: one Atlanta side of this game with, with Tyler Huntley
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: being under center instead of Lamar Jackson, that that's just
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: naturally going to meet, make people sell on Derek Henry
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: and buy on justice Hill at $ 3, 200 where he's more
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: of the pass down guy. So how do you see that?
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: I think he's a fine salary saver there. I just
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: be cognizant of how I'm playing him, how I'm using him,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: use him in a script that you say Atlanta smashes.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: So maybe, Maybe if you play Justice Hill, I think
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you play– maybe you play a Bijan up top. You
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: play a Brian Robinson and you just say, hey, Atlanta's
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: going to do what they have done the last couple games,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: smash them all football. They're just going to run the
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: ball as much as they can. That's what they want
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: to do anyways in this offense. And if that's the case, well,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: it's probably Justice Hill, right? Justice Hill being much more involved.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: So I think he's a fine play. But how are
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: you going to handle these– I'll call them four running
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: backs on the slate, obviously Henry and Bijan– are the
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: two leads. But I think there's a big talking point
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: to be had on the slate with a $ 3, 200 Justice Hill.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: And then Brian Robinson is starting to get priced up $ 5, 800
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: on the slate. Feels pretty expensive. He's more expensive than
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the kickers. He's more expensive than both the defenses, Jahan Dotson,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Justice Hill. I mean, he has a real price point
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: on the slate. And again, you alluded to this is
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: a different game. It is a different matchup. So how
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: do you see Brian Robinson now getting priced up almost
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: at $ 6, 000 in the flex here?
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I learned from you, he almost has to do
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: something at 6K, right? Like he has to get 12-plus
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: points at minimum. And that's a lot. That's asking a
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: lot from Brian Robinson in this game. So I'll probably
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: be a little bit lower. But Bijan, yeah, I'm firing
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: up Bijan. Captain, I like him in the flex. I
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: like him in all. It's risky, Nades, it really is,
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: because I've seen it time and time again. The king
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: in primetime. He loves primetime. He loves primetime. He threw
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Josh Norman three states one time in primetime when he
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: was playing for the Titans. He loves playing in prime time,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: but I'm rolling the dice, and I'm fading Derrick Henry
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: in single entry and three max, and I'm just doing it.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: No offensive line. Snoop Huntley back there. It's risky, but
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I'm doing it, and I'm not getting crazy with Muhammad
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Ali or Justice Hill back there. I'm not playing either
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: one of those guys.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure. I do think, I mean, you're
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: going to see an unowned Brian Robinson on the slate
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: because of the price increase and just the way the
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: slate shakes up, right, with the kickers being cheaper. Pitts,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Jahan Dotson, Justice Hill, right? So just, it's really just
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: a spend up to be contrarian type play. He does
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: have a 10 and a half rush prop though, 35
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: and a half yards. So he does have legitimate props
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: out there and they trot him out in the red
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: zone quite a bit as well. So, I mean, if
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: he goes out there and scores, depending on the way
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: that slakes up, I mean, if he gets you, let's
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: just say he matches his props, right? 35 and a
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: half yards in a touchdown, That's probably enough to beat
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: the kickers, right? And that's really what you're putting him
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: up against. So don't think it's the craziest play, but
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely– my favorite is definitely Bijan and Henry, then Hill,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: then B-Rob. It's kind of how I see it. I
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: just think– I don't know. I don't think this is
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the same kind of setup as we've seen the last
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: couple showdown slates here for the Falcons. Wide receiver position.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Drake London obviously leads this room here. I personally think
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Drake London is over owned personally myself here on this
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: slate but talk about London and Flowers obviously Flowers is
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: still questionable here but we do kind of expect him
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: to play Rashad Bateman at 6200 he looks like a
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: terrible play just from a price projection standpoint, but ownership,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: he's going to be sub 10% owned and nobody really
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: knows what's going to happen, what this offense is going
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: to look like.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: We're all kind of just guessing. Obviously we've seen Snoop
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Huntley in the past, but that doesn't mean that, that
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what's going to happen again here. Again, we're
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: talking on a half a football from, from this season
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: that we've seen Snoop Huntley with the current setup of
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: the Ravens. So how do you see these wide receivers
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: talk about what you're going to do with London and,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Talk about what you're going to do with Zay Flowers
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: up there at 10K in the flax. Because, again, these
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: guys were all priced like Lamar Jackson was in. So
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: when you just look at their price points, they're all
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: overpriced for the role. But, again, I mean, this is
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: how you get contrarian on the slate, I think, is
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: buying into these Ravens skill position guys that are overpriced
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: for the slate at hand.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're definitely going to be different getting these pass catchers.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, Rashad Bateman. 49% of the route participation last
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: week at 6,200. No thank you there. Drake London, I've
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: talked about him at 9,800. Yes, I'm in on that.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Give me some Drake London. Zay Flowers left week one
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: early after cutting up and then basically left after halftime
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: last week with no stoop. To me, it's a hard
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: sell to pay 10K for a guy with a backup
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: quarterback that I just haven't seen do it. If I'm
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: playing anybody for the Ravens, I'm going all the way
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: down to Devontae Walker. 66% of the routes last week.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: He's dirt cheap at.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: $ 3, 000.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Give me some Devontae Walker. I like him tonight as
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: my Ravens pass catcher to play with my Falcons. Where's
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Devontae coming in as far as ownership goes, Nades?
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Walker, Chris Moore, Zaccheaus. Zaccheaus is the
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: one I think that's over-owned for the punt guys. So, yeah,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Chris Moore and Walker I think are both fine. I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: think they're fine leverage kind of– take a shot on
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: cheap wide receiver play. So I don't hate that. I
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: think they, they check out pretty nice. Um, those two guys, um, overall,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean, nothing, nothing crazy to worry about.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, really anything, any skill position guys on the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Raven side of the ball, besides Tyler Huntley, um, are,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: are going to be under owned. Um, Mark Andrews is
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: really the guy. I think that outside of Huntley, people
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: want to click, um, because of his price point at 6,400
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: and just a big tight end in general in his projection. But, yeah,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: the cheap wide receiver guys for Baltimore, not really going
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: to get owned that much. I mean, they'll have some,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: but you're talking like 5% on those guys.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Okay. Flowers made of glass is what David says, and
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: he's a heck of a receiver. Nate, you know this, but, man,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: he just leaves a lot to be desired.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no. I think, I think the guy I'm going
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: to buy on at least in the flex, because I
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: think if I'm playing flowers, I'd rather just play him
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: up top and just say he gets, he gets his
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: two touchdowns, something like that. Maybe racks you up just
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: like 10, 10 catches, something like that. And even if
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: he goes like 10, 80 and two, something like that,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: like I'd rather just play that up top than, than
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: in the flex, the way I kind of see the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: game going. So, In the flex overall, though, the guy
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: that I think is pretty interesting in general is Bateman.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: He's on the field more than Zay Flowers is. If
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Zay Flowers gets injured again, re-aggravates some, I think he's
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: going to benefit even more. Again, we don't really know
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: what Huntley's going to do, but from a routes standpoint,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Bateman leads his team, obviously. From a target share perspective,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: he's up there. In general, he's third on the team
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: of targets. I mean, I just think this is a
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: spot when nobody wants Rashad Bateman in this offense. I mean,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: and especially with with Zay Flowers expected to be out there.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I think that takes all the focus away from him.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: And I do think they're going to sell out to
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: stop Derrick Henry.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: Any smart defense would sell out to stop Derrick Henry
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: in this spot with Snoop Huntley under center. Not much
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: of a threat compared to Lamar Jackson back there. You
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: could see more one-on-one style stuff with guys like Bateman
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: and Andrews across the middle, something like that, where those
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: linebackers and stuff kind of sneak in to really stop
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: the run there. So that's why I like Andrews and
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Bateman there. I guess you could put Dave Flowers in there,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: but at 10K, it feels pretty expensive to me. So
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I guess I say all that to say my favorite
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: flex wide receiver is– going to be, um, my, my boy, uh,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman. And then I like what you said about, uh,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Devontez Walker, 44 routes, um, this season so far for
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: his price, that's really good. Um, but John T. Wester
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: is running a decent amount of routes, him and Chris
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Moore as well. So, I mean, in the flex overall,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I think taking a shot on these cheaper guys, Walker, uh,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I'm with you there, Chris Moore, But don't forget about
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: a little John T. Wester at one K flat down
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: there as well. That dude's going to be unowned and
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: he's out there running routes on this field. And again,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: we don't know what, what it's going to look like.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I expect them to kind of load the box, like,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: like the chat was saying, stop Derek Henry. So you
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: could see one-on-one type coverage and it just relies on can,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: can Stu Puntley throw the ball and find the hands
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: of these guys. But outside of that, I mean, The
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: only other guy I'll mention here, Ham, is Zachariah Branch.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Just a buy low spot on this rookie for Atlanta.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Nobody's going to play him because he hasn't done shit.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: But these are kind of the spots, right, where you
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: want to take a shot on these unproven guys. Because
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: once he proves it, you're not going to get him
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: as kind of a diamond in the rough anymore. So
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: any thoughts on these ancillary other guys? Personally, myself, I'm
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: going to be underweight on Drake London. So I'm looking
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: at other guys like Jahan Dotson, Branch, Zaccheaus, these other guys,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: these value guys from Atlanta.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. Like I said earlier, they just rotate
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: these guys in and out. I do like your Zaccheaus,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Zachariah Branch. He had two catches in the first half
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Monday night, but he's only playing 20% of the snaps.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: And Zaccheaus, same thing. Jahan Dotson, I mean, he got
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: there super late last time. I mean, you're just– it's
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: a crap shoot with those guys. You don't know what
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: you're getting, which is kind of what you want, actually,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: in a GPP situation. a large field. But for me,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I'm going to play Walker at basically the same price
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: and out there three times more than Zachariah Branch is.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: So it's tough for me to get to any of
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: these Falcons, like Dotson, Zaccheaus, and Branch, Hoopers of the world.
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Hooper caught the first pass of the game the other
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: night in AIDS on Monday night and then didn't see
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: another ball all night.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: So, man, it's tough.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: It's tough to get those pass catchers if your name–
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: and aren't number five for the Atlanta Falcons.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, 100%. I agree. That's why you see the
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: ownership there. But, again, one game sample. It's just what
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: happens tonight. That's why I think taking a shot on
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: guys like Zachariah Branch, where you could expect– I mean,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: at least the field expects Atlanta to kind of be
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: able to do whatever they want here. I mean, I
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: think Branch is pretty interesting there. So, yeah, not much
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: more to say from the wide receiver position. Jumping over
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: to the tight ends here, Mark Andrews looks like a
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: really good play to me overall. I know people call
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: him dusty and this and that, but he's, again, in
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: that 6K range that, again, I just don't think anybody
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: really clicks when it comes to fruition. Mark Andrews and
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Bateman in kind of that 6K range. So I like
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Andrews a decent amount. Kyle Pitts is the guy that nobody,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: everyone gave up on. 4,800 for him. I'm actually going
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: to have some of Kyle Pitts here. Again, I'm kind
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: of taking an underweight stance on Drake London. So Pitts,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I think, is under-owned on this slate. Two and a
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: half receiving prop, 24 and a half yards, which is
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: not good. But that's why you see his projection, what
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: it is. That's also going to keep his ownership in check, which, again,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: I think he makes a pretty interesting play in general.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: The cheap guys, I don't really love these guys, but
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think you can spread them around. They
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: have shown their way into the kind of optimal winnings.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: on like 50% of these slates so far we've seen
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: this season. If you had to pick one, who would
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: you look at? It'd probably just be jumping down to
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: a guy like Charlie Warner for me at 600 bucks,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: just because he's out there. And if people want to
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: click Austin Hooper, just give me the extra thousand dollars
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: and give me Charlie Warner over him. So the way
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I rank them, it's Mark Andrews, Pitts, Warner is kind
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: of how I see it. I don't really want to
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: mess with these, the Hibners, the, Quavis of the world,
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: but how do you see these, these guys?
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you nailed it. To me, it's, it's like Kyle Pitts.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: It's like Kyle Pitts. Like if Kyle Pitts was playing
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: where Nades, like if they were featuring him, like he's,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: he's a stud. Like, I think he's really good. So I,
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on him at what
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: is he?
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: 4,800.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah. 4,800. I don't hate that. He just, he, he
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: doesn't play a whole lot. So it's, Semi-tough, but he
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: would be my favorite one. I like him better than Andrews,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: saving $ 1, 600. And then I was going to mention it,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: and you made a great call on Charlie Warner. Like,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: he stinks. But, you know, if you fill in the
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: first five dudes on your team, you're left with $ 600.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: He's out there 50% of the time. What if he
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: catches one at the goal line, catches three for 19
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: in a touchdown or something like that? But, man, I
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: don't love him. Pence would be my favorite Nades over
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: Mark Andrews.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like Pitts a decent amount. And, I mean,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: from a route standpoint, Warner's running– Charlie Warner's running actually
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: his out route. Austin Hooper, obviously the target tree is
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: much more shifted in the way of Austin Hooper, but
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: so is ownership. So I think Warner, again, is kind
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: of interesting overall. But, yeah, not too much more to
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: say from the tight end position here. Jumping over kickers
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: and defenses here, Hamm. They are in that, I mean, kickers,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Nick Folk, 5,400, Tyler Loop, two solid kickers. They are
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: going to be heavily owned on the slate because, again,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: the value guys are pretty weak on the slate. So
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I think if people can just round out their teams
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: with these kickers, I think, especially in lower total games,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: you see kicker ownership inflate just because people think lower
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: scoring means more field goals. That's not necessarily the case. Actually,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: the studies have shown In higher total games, the kickers
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: tend to have a higher score, which should be no surprise,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: but the way ownership shakes out and the way the
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: slates have shaken out, these lower total games, kickers, I think,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: end up being more owned than what I think they
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: should be. But how do you see this special teams range, kickers,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Nick Folk, 54, Luke, 5K, and then Ravens defense being
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: more expensive than a Falcons defense, I think is asinine,
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: but again, Any given Sunday, they say, right? So how
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: do you see this tier?
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely playing lower scoring games tonight. So I will
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: have some of these kickers, some of these defense. I
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: don't think we're going to get there in the captain spot. But,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: you know, what could it be, like 16 to 10
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: or something like that where you got five field goals?
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: You nailed it last week. I said with the Lions kicker,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I was pooping all over him, and he goes out
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: and hits like. 750 yarders it felt like. But I'm
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: in on these kickers tonight. I'm in on these defenses.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: That Ravens defense is really good. Falcons, like I said,
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: get better as the offense goes and the running game
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: looks good. They are at home against a backup quarterback,
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: but I don't think Snoop's going to be back there
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: passing much. So give me this Ravens defense over that
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Falcons and then give me Nick Falk over Tyler Loop
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: as well. But I like both of them.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm also with you. I do like the Ravens
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: over the Falcons defense. I think Falcons defense is one
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: of the most over-owned on the slate. I mean, they
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: probably come in around 25% ownership, somewhere in there, 23%
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: to 25% projection. We got them right now at about 21%,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: but I just think, I think, I know, I get it,
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  Speaker 1: they're 4K in the skill positions, but in that range,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: I would probably rather just play like a Justice Hill.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: something like that. Um, so yeah, I mean, I think
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: they're fine. I'm probably max one kicker, max one defense. Um,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: I don't really like playing two of them in the
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: same lineup either. Um, just from an upside perspective, that's
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: more of a kind of a floor play, which in
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: maybe the single entry three max stuff that, that makes
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: more sense there. But, um, in the larger field stuff,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I don't really like kind of going in on those
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: guys overall. Um, so I'm with you there Ravens for me. Um,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I probably slightly lean Tyler loop just because if Derek
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Henry does bust off a run, um, Snoop Huntley somehow
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: gets the pass. I just can see the Ravens stalling
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: out more so in the red zone than the Falcons
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: with Bijan, London, Pitts, just from a skill position and
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: a quarterback standpoint there. So for me, it's Ravens and
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: loop over Falcons and folk. But again, both both solid
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: plays in general there. Pam, any any additional points you
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: want to want to break down here with the showdown?
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: No, I think we've made some good points tonight. Like
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: I said, I think it's going to be lower scoring.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: I'm going to build my teams that way as well. And, yeah,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: good luck tonight in those contests.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean, let's close it here, Ham,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: with let's do your captain of the day and any
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: flex player or contrarian take that you have.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, captain of the day, I mean– I mean, I'll
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: just go off the board a little bit. I'll say
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Snoop Hundley as kind of the one that not a
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: lot of people are going to get. You're getting a
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: major discount on him, and he does have a little
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: bit of rushing upside for something I think is going
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: to be short. I think I like him tonight. For sure.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go Derek Henry up top, and then
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: my flex kind of contrarian play is Bateman. I like
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Bateman quite a bit. So Derek Henry and Bateman are
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: two guys that I'm buying on here tonight. The guy
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I'm selling on is Drake Lennon, which feels scary, but
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: that's just the way I see it, and I'm going
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: to take my chances there. But that's going to do
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: it here for the Sunday night game.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Have you seen any surprise inactives? I know we were
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: waiting for– yeah, Zay Flowers is active, so nothing really
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: to worry about there. But any closing remarks before we
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: get out of here?
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: No, no closing remarks. Yeah, good luck. And, yeah, just
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: checking out these inactives. But, yeah, I don't have anything
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: else to add. Awesome.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Well, that's going to do it. Appreciate everyone tuning in.
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• 55:06
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• 55:09
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• 55:15
  Speaker 1: of come to a close. And Ham and I will
• 55:18
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• 55:22
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• 55:24
  Speaker 1: and then talking next week's Sunday night football game. So
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: for him, I'm Nades. Good luck tonight. We'll see you
• 55:31
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