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Ep. 48 - Resilience & Redemption with Kayla MacLeod · Beyond the Paw - Clemson Athletics

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to Beyond the Pod. Today we have Kayla
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  Speaker 1: McLeod on our podcast. We have Kayla who is a
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  Speaker 1: team captain on lacrosse, was All ACC second team last year,
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  Speaker 1: an Inside Lacrosse mid Season All America Honorable mention. Was
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  Speaker 1: an All ACC freshman and led the team and goals
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  Speaker 1: her freshman year. Kayla, Welcome, Hi, thank you, thanks for
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  Speaker 1: being here. Of course, this is so fun. So we
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  Speaker 1: were just talking about before how me and Tory have
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  Speaker 1: no clue about lacrosse. Can you enlighten us on everything lacrosse?
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  Speaker 1: How many people are on the field, like sticks, lacrosse sticks, yea,
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  Speaker 1: the glasses that.
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  Speaker 2: You wear, goggles, the goggles, the goggles that you were. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's funny because it's so different between guys lacrosse
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  Speaker 2: and women's across too, Like those rules changed. So like
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  Speaker 2: I had an older brother that played, and so my
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  Speaker 2: mom like knew that side of the game, didn't understand
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  Speaker 2: women's across at all. So there's four attackers for defenders
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  Speaker 2: and then three midfielders okay, and then obviously two goalies.
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  Speaker 2: So where it differs from a men's game is there
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  Speaker 2: is a half like half field, but we don't use
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  Speaker 2: the half field unless it's like the draw. So they
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  Speaker 2: started the game, we take a draw a half field
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  Speaker 2: like what you would think of, like half the field
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  Speaker 2: fifty yards okay, but we have restraining lines that the
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  Speaker 2: attackers and the defenders can't go over that are on
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  Speaker 2: the thirty thirty five's maybe and they're passed. So like
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  Speaker 2: you can technically use three fourths of the field if
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  Speaker 2: you're an attacker, but you have to stop before the
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  Speaker 2: restraining line.
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  Speaker 3: God happens if you cross it off sides.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I do that a lot. So the thing, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a big thing because like you're running so fast
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  Speaker 2: and you have to stop before and that's all your momentum.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just like in your position as an attacker. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so what does that all entail? Like are you just
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  Speaker 1: throwing the ball?
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  Speaker 2: It's yeah, that does that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that's the correct terminology. I what's it called? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I am. Like there's different types of positions within
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  Speaker 2: the attackers, so like there's crease attackers, high attackers like
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  Speaker 2: cutting inside of attackers. So I'm a high right attacker
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of people play this differently, but my
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  Speaker 2: main job on the field is to dodge and just
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  Speaker 2: like I'm a power shooter, so I like to stay
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  Speaker 2: outside of the eight meter, in between the eight meter
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  Speaker 2: and the twelve meter and like draw shooting space and
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  Speaker 2: rip it. That's like a bit like so many words,
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  Speaker 2: a clear shot basically like if it's open, I will
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  Speaker 2: try to shoot the ball really hard into the goal.
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  Speaker 1: Gotcha a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: There's another like it's called finesse shooting, which is like
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  Speaker 2: more so we have an eight meter and there's hashes,
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  Speaker 2: so you take there's so much eight meter, so wherever
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  Speaker 2: the goal is, there's a crease circle around the goal
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  Speaker 2: that attackers can't go into. The defenders can go into it,
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  Speaker 2: and the goalie can go into it, but the attackers cannot.
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  Speaker 1: Gotcha.
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  Speaker 2: And around the goal there's an eight meter which is
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  Speaker 2: exactly what it sounds like. It's eight meters out and
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  Speaker 2: it's like a fan.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like circular, yes, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Like an arc kind of. And there's hashes, and they
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  Speaker 2: just changed it this year to only the two inside
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  Speaker 2: hashes you score on. There used to be five, so
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  Speaker 2: now there's only two that you can go on and
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  Speaker 2: you go the hash. If there's like a penalty within
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  Speaker 2: the eight meter, gotcha, And then there's a twelve meter,
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  Speaker 2: So if there's a different type of foul and you're
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  Speaker 2: not within the eight meter, you get put on the
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  Speaker 2: twelve meter, okay, and the twelve meter Like it's not
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  Speaker 2: you don't really go in to shoot on the twelve meter.
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  Speaker 2: You just kind of like pull it out and like
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  Speaker 2: pass it around everybody else, if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: So twelve meter you're like passing it to other people, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and eight meters you're shoe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a free shot. It's like there's two
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  Speaker 2: defenders on each side of you and it's just you
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  Speaker 2: and the goalie, right, and you're yeah, you're trying to shoot.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's what I try to do, is I try
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  Speaker 2: to get that penalty so that I can be put
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  Speaker 2: on that line so I can shoot, gotcha. But there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of other attackers that like my best friend
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  Speaker 2: in my roommate, Reagan Burns, she's an inside attacker, so
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  Speaker 2: like she's the one that the crease attacker is throwing
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  Speaker 2: the ball into the eight four so she can shoot
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  Speaker 2: a finess shot. Okay, Toria, which is closer real shoot,
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  Speaker 2: like I am you're doing a great job.
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  Speaker 3: You're doing a great job. It's just zero context.
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  Speaker 2: Well, my mom, she still doesn't understand the rules now, like.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of I feel like there's only twelve
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  Speaker 4: meters away from the goal and there's been a lot
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  Speaker 4: of rule Yeah, but also it's fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: It is when you understand it. It is and like
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  Speaker 2: that's that's something that's so funny. It's like sometimes the
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  Speaker 2: ref will like make calls within the game and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: what was that, Like, yeah, i don't even know what
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  Speaker 2: that was, Like could you please explain?
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  Speaker 1: And like, well, that's when you're learning something.
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  Speaker 5: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It's like I heard one coach I did a summer
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  Speaker 2: camp and like the coaches were talking and she was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I make all my girls learn the rules, like we
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  Speaker 2: have a rule test at the beginning of the season.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow. I was like, honestly, I fail.
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  Speaker 1: Do you start lacrosse at a young age?
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people do. I started when I was
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  Speaker 2: nine years old, okay, and a lot of my roommates.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm from the South, so I'm from Georgia
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  Speaker 2: and it's a lot less typical in the South to
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  Speaker 2: start very young, but a lot of my roommates are
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  Speaker 2: from Maryland up North Long Island, Northeastern.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, I feel like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people in the North.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they started very young, like they started like kindergarten,
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  Speaker 2: first grade.
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  Speaker 1: Why is that why it's barely on the West coast,
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  Speaker 1: Like sometimes men's lacrosse, like I've heard of that like
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  Speaker 1: on the West coast. Yeah, never women's.
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  Speaker 2: It's so funny because it's I don't know, I honestly
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  Speaker 2: don't know why it's not bigger. It's definitely growing, like yeah,
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  Speaker 2: even in Georgia it's gotten so much bigger, and here
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  Speaker 2: it's gotten so much bigger. Like there's teams in Charlotte
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  Speaker 2: that have like asked us some of the players like
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  Speaker 2: come and like help, which is awesome because like it's
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  Speaker 2: so it's just like it's not a Southern sport at all.
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  Speaker 2: And then like we get so many Southern fans in
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  Speaker 2: our in our stands that have no idea what's going on,
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  Speaker 2: and they just like show up like this is awesome,
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  Speaker 2: Like you guys don't really know what's going on. But
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  Speaker 2: like there are some like college lacrosse players that have
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  Speaker 2: been like phenomenal that have come out of like weird
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  Speaker 2: states like Texas or like, Okay, honestly, there's Texas and California.
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  Speaker 2: There's like two or three really good lacrosse players that
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  Speaker 2: are like growing the game for that side, which is
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  Speaker 2: awesome to see. So it's like I think in like
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  Speaker 2: the next ten years, it definitely will be more.
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  Speaker 1: Even is there like a pro across team?
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  Speaker 2: There is?
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  Speaker 1: There is?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, it's like I think there there's like a I
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  Speaker 2: want to say, like three different types.
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  Speaker 1: Of like leagues.
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  Speaker 2: There's like okay, professional, so the professional men's lacrosse. They
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  Speaker 2: just added a women's side of it. So like there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot more, but there's it's honestly kind of hard
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  Speaker 2: to follow because they start and like introduce a new
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  Speaker 2: league and then it kind of like dies down and
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  Speaker 2: like they have to start a new one. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: it's hard to track, but there is a professional level.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not it's it's growing.
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  Speaker 1: Did you always knew? Did you always know that you
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  Speaker 1: wanted to be a lacrosse player? Like what did you
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  Speaker 1: play any other sports growing up?
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  Speaker 2: Like? Was it lacrosse?
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  Speaker 3: All the way?
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  Speaker 2: From joking all the time, I'm the worst athlete, Like
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  Speaker 2: I like really good at lacrosse, but every other sport
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  Speaker 2: I'm just like not athletic in which is so funny
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  Speaker 2: because I played like I was in gymnastics first actually
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  Speaker 2: really it was too tall?
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  Speaker 1: Wait no, not how tall are you?
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  Speaker 5: Five?
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  Speaker 2: Ten?
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  Speaker 1: I was like.
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  Speaker 2: But then I see Quinn and I'm like, okay, you're great,
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, whatever, But my parents took me out of
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  Speaker 2: that because I don't think I was very good. And
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  Speaker 2: then did dance for a little bit, did soccer, oh nice,
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  Speaker 2: did volleyball, swam and.
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  Speaker 1: Then they're not athletic.
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  Speaker 2: Well I was terrible at all of them, like I
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  Speaker 2: I doubt that. Okay, maybe I wasn't terrible. I was
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  Speaker 2: also very young, but like I didn't love any of them.
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  Speaker 2: And like I I'm one of the people. If I
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  Speaker 2: really like something, I try one hundred and ten percent
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  Speaker 2: in that. But if I don't really like it, I'm like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't worth my time. Like I would rather be
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  Speaker 2: doing something that I really enjoy. And my brother, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, he started very young, and like he I
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  Speaker 2: always looked up to him, like he he hated me
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  Speaker 2: when we were growing up, but like now we're best friends.
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  Speaker 2: I can say that but like I always wanted to
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  Speaker 2: be like him like a lot, and women's across wasn't
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  Speaker 2: really like the biggest thing. But I remember the girl
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  Speaker 2: that he had a crush on in middle school. She
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  Speaker 2: played lacrosse, and I was like, okay, like I think
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  Speaker 2: that's the coolest thing I'm gonna play. And I went
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  Speaker 2: to one of the clinics at the high school hosted
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  Speaker 2: and like she was working it, and I just like
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  Speaker 2: ever since then, I was like, I actually love this sport,
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  Speaker 2: like it's so fun, so wow.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever it takes.
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  Speaker 2: Actually there was the last sport I've ever tried, every
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  Speaker 2: pick a ball. But I'm not good at that either.
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  Speaker 1: So wait, I can't believe you say you're unathletic though,
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like lacrosse is a very athletic sport
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like you guys are like very physical
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  Speaker 1: as well, Like you have.
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  Speaker 2: To you have to be athletic.
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  Speaker 1: So like some of the like ways I see you
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  Speaker 1: hit other people, yeah literally yeah, like literally ram into people,
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  Speaker 1: like shout out Paris too.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen her literally Paris literally. Freshman year, I was
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  Speaker 2: like a baby, like baby coming in. I was like
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  Speaker 2: I was always a high attacker, but I played Crease
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  Speaker 2: attack freshman year, okay, and Paris is my matchup. She's
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  Speaker 2: the most carey person.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I remember the first time I went in and she
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  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, like welcome to college, Like holy cow,
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  Speaker 2: Like she was like, and I give her credit all
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  Speaker 2: the time. I'm like, you made me Like the jump
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  Speaker 2: I had from freshman to sophomore year, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: that was literally all you, because like nobody was as
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  Speaker 2: hard as you were in practice, Like every game I
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  Speaker 2: played in I'm like, oh, like.
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  Speaker 3: Way easier than going against fair.
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  Speaker 2: At the end of the year, she literally got all
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  Speaker 2: the attackers little goodie bags with like band aids.
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  Speaker 1: Nice, sorry for ramming into you.
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  Speaker 2: She's like so sweet about it. And she doesn't like
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  Speaker 2: a iron Sharpen's iron type of way, which is like awesome.
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  Speaker 1: And she's such a nice person. She is. She has
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  Speaker 1: like a great person I know, and she's so seat
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  Speaker 1: you can never imagine her being so physical.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah we say that all the time. I'm like, you're
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  Speaker 2: like so nice, which makes it better. Yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 2: You can't be bad.
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  Speaker 3: It's not personal job.
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  Speaker 2: Doing her job.
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  Speaker 1: That's hilarious though, But like I think that like going
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  Speaker 1: going up against the best, like makes you better two Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Thousand percent, we're really good at that are the goggles.
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  Speaker 2: The goggles. So actually in Florida they have to wear
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  Speaker 2: helmets in the women's game because in the men's game,
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  Speaker 2: they wear yeah the men's game. In the men's game,
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  Speaker 2: they wear helmets, but in the women's it's goggles and
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  Speaker 2: it's like three bars across and like right there, So
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  Speaker 2: technically we're like not allowed to hit, and like there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of rules against like shooting space, like you're
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  Speaker 2: not there, you shouldn't be really be getting hit in
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  Speaker 2: the head with the ball. But that there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of push for helmets now because like there's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people getting like the speed of women's shots are
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  Speaker 2: also getting faster and faster, like yeah with new sticks,
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  Speaker 2: and like there's women that have like been pushing the
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  Speaker 2: boundaries like Charlotte now, she's been pushing the boundaries for
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  Speaker 2: like the last five.
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  Speaker 3: Years with like the fastest shot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like comparable to like a men's shot, which
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, it's like insant.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you like?
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  Speaker 2: But like how fast is it? Like one hundred miles
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  Speaker 2: an hour a week?
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  Speaker 3: And the crossball is like the size of a.
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  Speaker 1: Oh we use the cross.
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  Speaker 2: I knows a lot. I walk it.
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  Speaker 3: I have one at my house. Okay, I different purpose,
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  Speaker 3: perfect tool, perfect tool.
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  Speaker 1: But I can't imagine that being thrown one hundred miles
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  Speaker 1: per hour. Yeah your head.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well not like it's not supposed to be at
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  Speaker 2: your head. But if you're running through the eight and
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  Speaker 2: like you, somebody's getting yeah, you're gonna get hit.
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  Speaker 1: It's possibly hit your head.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a thousand. I gave my Yeah, I gave one
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  Speaker 2: of my teammates and my roommates look concussion and our
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  Speaker 2: freshman year. Oh no, it was bad. It's really bad.
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  Speaker 4: The goggles are just supposed to protect your eyes getting hit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It seems like you need to protect your hand.
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  Speaker 2: No, definitely. There's been a really big push for like
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  Speaker 2: women to wear helmets. And like the first time like
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  Speaker 2: we saw, I was like that looks so silly. But
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  Speaker 2: now it's like it's actually like like a danger hazard,
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  Speaker 2: so it's like you might as well. Like I'd rather
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  Speaker 2: look silly for the first couple of months than not
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  Speaker 2: be literally.
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  Speaker 1: Also, the goggles remind me of those basketball goggles.
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  Speaker 2: I always think that like drills. They're like they're they're
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  Speaker 2: not the cutest.
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  Speaker 1: They look like you're wearing like a mask like some
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  Speaker 1: of the COVID nineteen masks that we had to like
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  Speaker 1: with the plastic.
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  Speaker 2: It's like when people like break their nose, that's like,
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  Speaker 2: oh yeah, to wear those Yeah, not the cutest.
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  Speaker 1: Are they comfortable to wear? At least? Can you breathe?
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  Speaker 5: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: It used to Oh yeah, you can breathe. It's like
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  Speaker 2: it's only straight over. I have to bring one in
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  Speaker 2: for you guys to see.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like do a show in time.
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  Speaker 2: It's these are my They're like it's literally you put
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  Speaker 2: them on as if it was like I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: think of something comparable, like the frame of a sunglass,
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  Speaker 2: but then hollow around your face. If that mas sense,
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  Speaker 2: so then then it's just metal bars. So it really
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  Speaker 2: only protects your eyes and like kind of the bridge
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  Speaker 2: of your nose.
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  Speaker 1: But a lot of like nose breaks that happen in lacrosse.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually have my my coach broke my nose
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  Speaker 2: my senior year of high school on a complete accident.
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  Speaker 2: Like I used to take the draw. I used to
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  Speaker 2: be a midfielder and normally you throw the sticks. This
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  Speaker 2: got banned for good reason because this is.
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  Speaker 1: Like you throw the sticks in the game.
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  Speaker 2: Like if I so there's a draw stick and a
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  Speaker 2: normal stick, and I would go and take the draw
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  Speaker 2: with the draw stick, and then I would run towards
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  Speaker 2: the sideline throw my draw stick and she would throw
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  Speaker 2: my real stick. She threw my stick, and then it's
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  Speaker 2: like went at an angle towards my nose and like
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  Speaker 2: broke my nose. And I was like, oh, so much
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  Speaker 2: for the goggles though, Like I was wearing the goggles
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  Speaker 2: and they were yeah, and they did what are they for?
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I wouldn't say there's like a lot of
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  Speaker 2: nose breaks, but like they definitely happen. Yeah, like any.
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  Speaker 3: Sport, okay. And then when you score, you have to
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  Speaker 3: throw your stick down.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I actually love that. It's my favorite part.
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  Speaker 3: That's like such an opportunity for a celebration. It looks
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  Speaker 3: really cool.
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  Speaker 2: My favorite part about it. It's like you you just
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  Speaker 2: have to drop it so the refs can go and
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  Speaker 2: check and like see if it's illegal or like legal what?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah is that a common thing?
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  Speaker 4: Like I feel like when they check it, it's always fine. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's always fine, so I do have to check it
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  Speaker 4: every time.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of players sometimes they like it's been rumored
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  Speaker 2: that players were like grab their stick and like it
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  Speaker 2: down in a certain way to like make it legal.
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  Speaker 2: So like they're started to like check more and more,
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  Speaker 2: and like in high school, we would always check before
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  Speaker 2: the game and that was it, but like in college,
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's more so like every goal kind of matters.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: So like like in high school, I would always tighten
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: my stick before the thing and then bag it out
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: right before I would go out and like have a
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: deeper pocket. But you can't do that in college now
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: because they check it after every time. So but honestly,
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: I think it's my favorite part. Like there were rumors
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: that they were gonna like end that then, like change
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: that rule this plast year, and I'm so glad they
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: didn't because it's like when I come back and step
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: back onto the field, like that's my I'm gonna be
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: so excited to do that as my first thing is
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: just slam my stick down, like yeah, throw it.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Wait, I'm so confused they It reminds me of like golf,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: how they have to check your club kind of right,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: is that what you're talking about.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: Am I following I don't. I don't follow it.
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: Golf, Okay, one confusing sport at a time.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, Because.
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: If you're the netting of your stick was more lax
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: or like loose, it would be easier to catch the ball.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like the men's stick, Like the have really
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: deeper pockets because it's like like for them, it's easier
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: to control the ball. They have a harder shot. That's
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: half the reason why they have a harder shot, because
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: like their pockets so much deeper, they get more whip
• 15:10
  Speaker 2: on the ball. Now, I'm yeah, but women's sticks are
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: a lot like shallower. So it's our ball has to
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: be above the top part of the stick, whereas men's
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: can be below that part. So that's why the check same.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, Well, you just said when you come back, and
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: we're all excited for you to come back, but I
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: know the injury was tough. Acl you want to talk
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: a little bit about what happened and what the process
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: has been like.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: So I've actually torn both of them, and I tore
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: my other one going into my freshman year of high school,
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: and then I tore this one obviously in our last
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: regular season game, and it was so weird because the
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: first time I tore it, I neither my parents were there.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: So I have two younger sisters and an older brother
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: and they were always trying to juggle like between all
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: of us, and neither my parents were at the game
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: because they were at my siblings, and I just remember
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: being like they didn't believe me for like a really
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: long time because my dad's like the type of dad
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: he's like all rubbed dirt on it, like you're you're fine,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: and I just remember like no, like something's really wrong,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: like I don't feel right. And I played like three
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: games after that, and I just remember like yeah, and well.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: This is in high school.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like in high school. And I remember
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: dodging and like it would just give out on me,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: and I was like, dad, like something's really wrong. And
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: finally took me to the doctor and he's like, yeah,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: your knee's been like fully blown.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Out, like oh gosh.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: But like this time, I remember going and doing my
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: dodge and like I felt so bad for my defender
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: because she wasn't like she didn't do anything. It was
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: fully non contact, but like I dodge and it was
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: like the loudest pop and I knew, like immediately, I
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I just like I was bawling my
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: eyes up, but like not because it hurt, more so
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: just like the fact that I you know what's Yeah,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: I knew that I had torn it and like my
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: defender were sitting there like, oh.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't touch her.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. She was like, oh my gosh. And I was
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: like no, like I promise it wasn't you, Like you're
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: completely fine. And I remember I was sitting in there,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: I'm bawling eyes out. The first person to come on
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: the field as our head coach, Ali is She's like
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: she's bawling her eyes out, like we both she yeah,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: we all knew. And she was sitting there and my
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: athletic trainers crying. We're like, we're all sitting in this
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: room crying. My mom comes in the room, not one tear.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Mom, like a little.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Emotional, like why are you Why are you not sad?
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: And she was like I've seen you've I've seen you
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: gone through this before, like I know you're gonna come
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: out stronger then, And I was like, okay. From the day,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Like as soon as she said that, I was like
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: you're so right, Like this happened for a reason. I
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: don't know what it is right now, but like this
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: happened for a reason, And like the weirdest thing I
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: keep thinking of is I actually had to get stitches
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: the morning before that game, where in my fingers I
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: had like I sliced, so I had it. I was
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: like trying to undo a zip tie and I like
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: with like an eyebrow razor, like a straight razor. Oh yeah,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: and I popped it and it like slipped and went
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: into my finger and I had to go get stitches
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: in it. So I that game. I actually like I
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: was like I didn't think I was gonna be able
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: to play because I was like, I have stitches in
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: my hand, like yeah, hold the stick with my hand
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: obviously like a ripshots. They actually put me in a
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: football glove and I played that game.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Oh no way.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: And I was like, Okay, that's another reason, Like if
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: I wasn't supposed to truly have this happen, like that
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: would have been an excuse for me to not have played,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: and like that would have been a crutch that I
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: could have gone back on. So like I know that
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: it happened for a reason, Like I keep telling myself
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: that throughout the whole process, like and honestly, throughout I've
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: been like I've had certain checks where I'm like, okay,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Like I was starting to take a lot of playing
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: for granted and like you know, like you walk in
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, like a practice, like I don't.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: And now I'm like, like even the run test, like
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: I are athletic trainer. We set goals at the beginning
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: of my process and she was like, I want you
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: to be able to do the run test with the
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: team in January. And I remember the first week of
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: November she pulled me aside and she was like, so,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I think you're ready and we're doing the run test
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: in two weeks and you're gonna be doing it with
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: the team, And I was like okay, Like normally I
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: dread that type, and I was like so pumped up
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: and so excited to go and do it because I
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: was like, like I wouldn't classify myself as a runner,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: but I think throughout this process, I've been like loving
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the journey of just like being grateful for like moving
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: my body and like it is such like it's something
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: that I take a lot of people take for granted
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: all the time, especially being athletes, Like we have bodies
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: that were able to use, and we don't take it,
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: like we don't show enough gratitude for it.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I think it's a perspective thing.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: It's a thousand percent you get to versus a one
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: thousand percent. I was like I keep telling myself every
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: morning when I wake up, I'm like, Okay, like I'm
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: grateful that I have an able body that keeps getting stronger,
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: and I like have the opportunity to recover today, Like
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: I can do something today that I didn't wasn't able
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: to do yesterday. Like that was my favorite part of
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: like the first like three months of recovery is like
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: every day it was like I would go into pet
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: because I had Pete every single day, and I would
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: go in and it was just like one more thing
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I could do that I wasn't able to do yesterday,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: And I was like this is so fun, Like this
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: is so cool, Like this is awesome, And I just
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: keep telling myself that that like and I think it
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: happened at the perfect time because like I now like
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: my window is obviously I tore it. I got had
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: to miss like a CC tournament. Our run in postseason, yeah,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: like postseason play, but it was like five games. And
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: now it's like I'm back on track to come back
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: this season, which is like, that's so exciting. I'm so,
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Your freshman year you were all time leading scorer, right,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: and then your sophomore year you also had forty seven goals?
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Was it?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: That's insane? And then coming back after that, going through
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: this injury and learning how to run again, how to
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: walk again, Like, how excited are you for this next season?
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I'm so, I'm so pumped up. Like we have such
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: an amazing group of girls this team, and I our
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: first fall ball game, I remember texting our freshmen that
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: were starting that game, I Alexis Pelina and Emma Pinchick,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: and I texted them and I was like, I could
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: not be more excited to play with you guys, Like, yes,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: you guys are just the way they demand the ball
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: and the way that they move it and like they're
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: so fluid and watching on the sidelines, I'm like, I'm
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: juiced up to go back and play because like it's
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: now like our offense is complete, like there's not one
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: person on the on the team at a time that
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, like they shouldn't be doing this. Like
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: every single person that's on there I have like one
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: hundred percent trust in and I'm not even on the
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: field with them yet, Like I'm just watching and I'm like,
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: but it's so cool because awesome.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: You've been there before. Yeah, you've been in their place
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: and you know what it's like to go out for
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: your first game ever, so you're able to watch from
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the sidelines and give them advice one.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Hundred I think that's the hardest part too. Throughout this
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: whole part is like being a captain while not playing
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: is like I am I'm a very vocal person and
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: I love talking and that's how I lead, as I
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: just by example and like being a vocal presence on
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: the field, are you in power?
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: No?
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Should have I.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Know I was thinking I had a midlife that's a
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: texted tory. I'm like a toy I need to meet
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: with you. I'm I'm having a mid crisis.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you that I was
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: like perfect candidator.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: But like I'm very much a do and a doer
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: and like that's how I lead and I'm a very
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: positive I love to be loud, I love to be energetic,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: and then taking myself out of the equation of like
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: being on the field with everybody was so hard for
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: me to like figure out how to lead in a
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: different way, And I think that was honestly one of
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: the main reasons that this all happened, was to show
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: me that there's different ways to be leader, just like
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: because I'm not always on, like you're never nobody's always
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: at one hundred percent, Like there's gonna be games where
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I go out there and I'm not the energetic, confident
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: kala that I normally am, But like being able to
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: figure out how to lead from the side and like
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: little like little things that you say to people and
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: showing how that affects them, Like it's it's been one
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: of the best things I think throughout this recovery process.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: What does it mean to you that you were name
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: team captain while not even actively being able to train
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: and play.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of faith in myself, and I
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: like knew that when we started voting for captains, Like
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I was sitting there because Paris and I have always
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: been like a lot on the same page and I
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: was talking to her and I was like, I'm going
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: to vote for myself, Like I I'm gonna vote for myself,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna vote for you, Like I know that
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: we would be able to lead very well together, and
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: like I had the belief in myself, but to know
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: that my teammates had that belief in me was just
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: something that has really Honestly, I've come back to a
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: lot and I've talked to Amanda RPT person about this
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: a lot, because I'll get in spaces where I'm like, oh,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: like i feel like I'm failing, like INPT in recovery
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: as a leader, Like I'll definitely have my days, and
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: she brings me back to earth and she's like, Okay,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Like all of these girls voted for you, and they
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: knew that you weren't going to be on the field,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: and they they see how you lead and how you
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: go about things and even the way you go through recovery,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: like the way you do PT. Like you lead in
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: that way. They look at you on the sideline doing
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: your runs and they see how hard you're working. So
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: like when she says stuff like that, I'm like so true,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: and I have to bring myself back, and I'm like, Okay,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I had so much respect for my captains and the
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: way that they like empowered me throughout the years, and
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: I just want to do that for them. And knowing
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: that they see me in that way is like awesome.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Such a testament to yourself, Like yeah, and you're not
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: even gonna be like doing everything. Yeah, that's really cool.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Thanks.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Anyway, it is going to be so good, though.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited. I'm so excited.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: I love your perspective on leadership and to know that
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: you've been voted on by your peers, right, and how
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: cool also to have Paris.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: But leadership is so hard.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: I think sometimes people just say I want to be
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: a team captain, yeah, because they want the title or
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: they want that status. But what are the hard parts
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: of leadership?
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: It's really hard to be the bad guy a lot
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: of the time, like holding people to a standard that
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: like as a freshman, like all the captains, I remember
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: being so scared of like getting in trouble, and like
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: that's the hardest part for me is I have such
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: a good relationship with all of these girls that a
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: lot of the time I just want to be buddy buddy,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: and I don't want to like enforce the standards that
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: we have set and the the captains before me have set.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I'm comfortable, yeah.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: And I'm like Paris like, but like there's definitely been
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: times where I've had to get on our team and
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: not in a bad way, but just in like this
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: is the standard we hold ourselves to, Like there's certain
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: things that we have to take like actionable steps towards
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: that we're not right now. So like that's definitely been
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: the hardest part, I think, not just being the fun,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: energetic person all the time and like having to show
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: a different side because last year I was just like
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent straight up like energy, Like yeah, I
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: didn't really have to ever crack down on anybody, which
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: then there hasn't like they've been really like our team's awesome,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Like there's not a lot of opportunities where I'm like, okay,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: like come on, I.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: Think accountability is love.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you're trying to be really good, which
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: your team has the potential to be really good, it
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: is those little things. It's not big people aren't doing
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: a good job or people are messing out.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: It's a little separate really good to really.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: And I think it's so much easier when they know
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: that they can be held to a standard themselves. Yeah,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: because when they don't like that, if your goals are
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: in aligned, like it's not gonna work out. But if
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: everyone has the same goal, I think it just makes
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: it that much easier.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And our coaches do a really
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: really good job of identifying like those little because sometimes
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: like that's another hard part, is like knowing the little
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: actions that you do have to get better on each day.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: And they are very very good about telling us, like, Okay,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: we missed a certain amount of backups today, Like we
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: have to be chasing the ball, like no matter what
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: our ground balls aren't there, we need to be doing this, this,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: and this, Like they're very good about it, and they
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: allow me in Paris to both like be on a
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: united front so that when we go to our because
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: obviously Paris is a defender, I'm an attackers, Like when
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: we go to our respective groups, like there's certain things
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: that we both need that both groups need to work on,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: so we're able to come at it at a different
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: angle that it's like we're able to help everybody as
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: a whole instead of just like one one side versus
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: the other.
• 26:51
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• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Now back to the show.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: We were a high recruit coming out of high school too.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: What were your other offerers and what tipped the scales
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: for Clemson.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I actually I had like five, all five of my
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: official visits set. I took Syracuse before this visit, and
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I remember Ali and Madison Carter, who was the assistant
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: coach at the time, came to my house like I
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: want to say, September first, was on like a Tuesday
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: or something. It was in the middle of the week.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't go to school, and I remember Ali came
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: to my house and gave me my offer, like flat out,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: like straight up. I didn't go on my visit yet
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: she came to my house. My mom was so cute,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: said out a three board, and my.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Mom's like, Hi, It's like, this is so awesome.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: She was so excited that she was so proud of me.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: But like they were awesome, and like right away they
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: gave me an incredible offer. And I was just like, Okay,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: I want to go see Syracuse before because I came
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: to Clemson the first weekend after September one. Okay, I
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: want to go and see Syracuse because Syracuse at the
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: top of my list. Clemson wasn't even on in my
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: top ten?
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Really is that because it was a new program.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really new. And I also just like
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I was set on being since I was from a
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: very non traditional cross area, I was set on going
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: to like a top five program to be like I
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: wanted to be a girl from my area that had
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: like done a really big thing. Yeah, and I was
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: convinced that it was like you know, the Syracuses, the
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Notre Dames, all like the top schools that have been
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: established with tradition and stuff. And I took my visit
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: to Syracuse and I remember just like walking around and
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: being so cold and it was September, and I was like,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: this is so cold and it's muggy. I played an
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: outdoor sport. I don't know, and like I'm the most
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: Southern person. Like if you talk to any of my teammates,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, she would never.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Be I don't know, thinking someone going from like Georgia
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: to Upstate.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Needs Oh no, I would have hated it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it would have been wrong.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: And then like I thought, I liked it. On my visit,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I was like, okay, like this is cool, Like I
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: loved I really liked the coaches. They were awesome. And
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: I remember, like my brother also played in college, so
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: when I was yeah, he played, Yeah, he played at Georgetown,
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: And I remember going in and like the finances were
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: a really big part of my entire decision. But I
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: remember going in and like after my visit, they sat
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: me down and give me the offer, and my dad
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: and I like looked at each other and we were
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: like okay. Like we walked out and my Dad's like, yeah,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: like that's gonna be really hard to like swing if
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: you're going out of state and paying tuition like Syracuse
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: just like really expensive school. So you're like yeah, like
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: and then the next weekend, I came down to Clemson
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: and I remember it was seventy five, Sonny. The football stadium.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Was past summer in September.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: It was like a million people walking around all in
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Clemson stuff. Every person you talk to was just like
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: a big smile on their face. I was like, okay,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: like are you kidding me? Like this is like night
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: and day. And then I sat down at the table.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: I think we went to Rickerwins. We sat down at
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: our recruiting dinner and I sat right across from my
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: roommates now immediate like best friends immediately, and I was
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: just like okay, like that's how you know, that's you know.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: And I will say, the people one hundred percent make
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: the place. And I remember sitting at that table and
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I actually committed on the visit. I the next day,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: we took the photo shoe on the Sunday and I
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: went into the coach's office and I was like, well,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: they didn't even have an office at that point. We
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: were in somewhere. We were in here actually, oh really,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I'm ready to commit, like
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: and I remember bullying my roommates because they took all
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: their visits after and I would like text them, like
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: three weeks out, like they went to the Penn State
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: white Out game and I texted them and I was like.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: You guys better come.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I swear if you guys are not gonna come. And
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: there's just so many things about like this school being
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: on the water, being able, and I was like, I said,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: like I was set on being somebody from Georgia that
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: hadn't really done something super big, and I was convinced
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: that that was like going to a really established good
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: school and it wasn't, but it wasn't. It was like
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: the fact that I was able to like not a
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: team part of team one, but a part of team
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: two and a part to a building that culture and
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: like stepping into a role that a lot of people
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: wouldn't necessarily take the chance on. And I remember Ali
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: sitting at my table with like the blueprints and then
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: us walking on our visit and seeing just dirt and we.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: Were like, oh, like so you're gonna build a stadium?
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And you're like, what is this gonna be? Like
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: are you sure it's just all gonna fit right here?
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: And like even with gymnastics, like, yeah, I remember the
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: first week that we met Quinn and we met like Takota,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: and we were sitting there and I was like, these
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: girls are awesome. Like everybody here is so happy and
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: so welcoming that it was just like almost a no brainer.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Like it's so cliche, but like really, when you know,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: you know, and it's the best decision I've ever ever
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: made for myself.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: So kind of like us to you kind of had
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: to make a decision based on faith. Yeah, he had
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: to truly believe that it was.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Going there's something in the air. That's what I keep
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: saying is like I talked to the coaches, and I
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: remember talking to my roommates and my teammates, and I
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: was just like I hope, I hope this works out.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Like my dad, he's like, this is a really big
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: like leap, but also like think about how big it's
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: going to be if it does amount to something awesome.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: And like, thank god it took that chance because I'm
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: here and it did amount to something awesome. So it's
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: like it's awesome to see how far we've grown in
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: such a short amount of time.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how has that been? Being on like kind of
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: the forefront of a new team.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: It's amazing. It's so fun to go into I remember
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: our freshman year when we played UNC, or my freshman
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: year when we played UNC, and like I had no
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: nerves And I was like I had no nerves because
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: we walked in and I was like, everybody expects us
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: to just like not be very good because we're a
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: new team and we're establishing stuff. And I was like,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: why why are we nervous? Like we've done so much
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: work and we played against all of these girls like
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: in club, like I know how they play, Yeah, and
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: we're there and we're sitting there. I we've been recruited
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: to all of these top schools too, and we just
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: happen to be at Clemson and like we're happen to
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: be building a new thing. Yeah, but there's so much
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: power in that and being able to shift a culture
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: to exactly what you want and not like walking into
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: something that needs fixing. It's so much harder to fix
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: a culture than to build a culture. I think so,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Like I think that was our biggest power is like
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: when we're playing, we're playing as all of us are
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: united and knowing like we have something to prove to
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: other people like people doubt us, and like, I think
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: that's our biggest like fuel.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Sorry, I just caught that you're playing you and see
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: your freshman year too, and that's a big program for
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and you weren't nervous at all.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Well, I just remember being like they have never seen
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: us play, or like they've never seen me play, Like
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: they have no idea. Yes, they're a very very talented team.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: And yes, respectfully, whenever they play us in the past,
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: have they beaten us by a good amount, Yes, But
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: when I'm playing, I'm like this year, yeah, there's always room.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: That's my favorite thing is every single time we play,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: then we get a little better every single Yeah. But
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: like I just remember walking out there and like, who
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: am I to be scared of somebody that I feel
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: like we've worked just as hard as And yes, our
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: team as a whole may like they they have had
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: a lot of like they've been playing together for a
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: long time and they have had that established and yes
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: we're new to that, but there's so like I said,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: there's so much power in that, like they've never seen
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: this team at this time play, And I remember walking
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: around like I'm just gonna have fun, Like there's nothing.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I don't have to be nervous at all. If they
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: check me, they check me. If I'm gonna go get
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: the ball, I'm gonna try my hardest. So like, what
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: are they gonna do if they win, if they lose,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: it's the same thing. Just have fun.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: How would you describe the culture of Clemson lacrosse.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I think this year has I think throughout the years.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: Again's it's definitely a work in progress. It's a very
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: family feel. I feel like all the sports are like
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: this yere like you really whether it's like within our
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: team or like within every staff member and every other team,
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Like I feel like you see somebody, you're like, oh okay,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: it's very very like welcoming. I would say, yeah, that's
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: the thing that makes me the most excited about this team, Like, yes,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: we're very good play wise, but I don't think we've
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: had a closer team yet. And I think it's the
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: fact that we have so many different personalities. But it's
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: also like we've everybody's just like so accepted everybody's personality,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Like we work very well together because it's it's like
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: a oh, I'm going to go do this right now,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: come come along, like I just want to spend time
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: with you, Like we all genuinely want to spend time
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: with each other, which is like it's so nice to
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: have that, cause like the first couple of years, like
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: you're still it's a bunch of transfers. It's a bunch
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: of like older classmen, fifth years, younger girls. Like we
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: had half our team was like freshmen. Our starters were
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: freshmen and then like fifth years from different schools. So
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: like it was very very hard first year. I would
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: say to build that and try to build that, but
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: like it's so awesome to see what we are building
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: continue to grow throughout the years, and I think.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: And that makes such a difference.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: It makes you so much difference. Like I it's like
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the most talented team we've had, like keep saying that,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: but like genuinely, when we walk on the field, it's
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: just like you're going out and playing lacrosse with your
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: best friends. It feels like literally.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: It's not like your teammates. Like you can think of
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: your teammates as like you know, just your teammates, but
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: when they're your actual friends, like.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: Makes everything so much different special. Yeah, it's like you
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: want to celebrate everbody else's victories, which is like the
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: best part about it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: How would your teammates describe you as number one a
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: person and then number two a player?
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I would say this, well, as the teammates have seen
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: me play, I would say confident in my play. And
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I would say very aggressive in the way I play,
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: and powerful and aggressive and powerful good words in my personality.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I would say very loud and outgoing and energetic. And
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I I feel like I try and they see it
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: a lot to be half glass half full rather than
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: glass half empty, if that makes sense, like optimistic, Yes,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: thank you, I'm struggling with words.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: No, No, I feel really good.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Thanks, that's awesome. Okay, so you're a business major to
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: tell us about that and what you're you want your
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: future to look like.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: So actually that's why I hadn't needed to talk to Tori today.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Can I figure out life?
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Life is?
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I I'm a marketing major within business, and
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I love being creative. I love like the idea of
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: having something on my own and like creating something. And
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: funny enough, I actually really wanted to do architecture coming.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: In to school and Simson architecture.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: It's and I didn't end up doing it because it
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: is no joke and it's a lot of offsite with lacrosse.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: It's just like it's really it's doable, but it's just
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: really hard. And I was like, I don't want to
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: put that on me, Like knowing myself, I would probably
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: hate my life.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I did to myself. I think my friends who did architecture,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: we're up until.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Like it's hard the wee hours.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really hard.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: It's really hard, but like I'm super interested in it
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: and also like fashion design. I really like fashion design,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: so I've kind of I'm like, this is my problem.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: I'm all over the place, like there's so many things
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: that I want to do. That is just like what
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: do I actually want to do?
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's not a bad thing, No, it's.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's great. But like my mom's a
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: real estate agent and I love houses, so I think
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: the it's kind of hard to go back and get
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: my architecture degree now, but like you can get your
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: real lite, yeah, but I can get my real estate license,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: so there's any time. And my mom sent me my
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: mom sent me a real estate license, like class, She's like,
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: if you want, because I have to be here till
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: like next two weeks. If you want to do something
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: while you're there, like take this course, okay.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: If you don't need a break from this whole semester
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: of school.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the more.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: There's more.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I just are you going to do it?
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I think I am. Yeah, then it will like there's
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: just another thing I can add to my war.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: So you do you.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Watch like Selling Sunset or Selling the OC? I actually
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: owning Manhattan reality TV?
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Like I can't stand reality TV.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not reality TV.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I lose a lot of people in that, but never mind.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I used to really watch like Chip and Joyanna Gaines, Okay,
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: like I would love that, like flip It. I love
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: those shows. Like when I was younger, I would like
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: binge watch those types of shows.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I will say I do watch Selling the OC, Selling Sunset,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: and I recently started owning Manhattan. I'm watching them all
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: back to back. So I wouldn't say I'm into reality TV,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: but it's definitely cool because I'm from California too, and like,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I'm not interested in real estate at all, but for
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: someone who is, like you, I think you should check
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: it out because the houses and like the way they
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: market the houses too, Like marketing and real estate go
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: together a perfect and the way they do it is
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: so creative with like their brokers opens and like how
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: they put the house up online and like on social
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: media like that it all goes together really hand in hand.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: So I think that would be perfect.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: We should sell this selling okay, mental check.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah you should watch. I mean there's a lot of
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: other drama, yeah.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: The underlying yeah, forget that part.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: The house is like second tier to like the drama.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: But it's really cool, so cool. It's really cool seeing
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: the houses too, because every time they put a house
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: on screen, I'm like, oh my god, it's beautiful.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like my favorite part is just like I'll
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: go with my mom just like show houses and I'll
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: just like be like she's like, where's Klen. I'm just
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: like walking around the house like trying to look at everything,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: or like I'll go into meetings with her builders and
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: like watch how they think of things, like when you're
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: when you're asked like designing somebody's home. Yeah, like doing things,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: I'm like, holy cow, Like the way your brain thinks
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: about that is like so different than how I just
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: saw that.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Like you literally think of everything.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: It's awesome how to live.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you ever like envision yourself whenever you go
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: into a house and you're like, oh, like I could
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: see this.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Percent I little I love going and driving like through
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: the nice houses in my hometown. I'm like, oh, like.
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: That one's always on the same.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I mean my mom used to hate it because like
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: I can't remember what it's called, but like my and
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: my mom's real estate and she like despises the like
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: online real estate website. And I've like signed up and
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I have like I've like become a member of like
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: the little communities and I'm like talking and I'm like
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: looking at these houses and my mom's like what are
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: you doing?
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: But like it's so interesting to look at the price
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: in like how many beds, how many baths?
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Like how many square foes?
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, yeah that's really cool.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah I love it.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, besides real estate, what else.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: I could see myself going into sports marketing? This is
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: what I mean. Like I'm all over the place, but okay,
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: sports marketing. Like I love advertising and I love sales.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: I took a sales class here, and I like wouldn't
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: have never thought of myself in a sales position. But yeah,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: I love talking and I love like talking to people.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like you could tell me something I.
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: Really wanted to. But that's another is I really like
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I said this before, but I if I care about
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: something and I like doing something, I will work. I
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: will give everything I have into that. But easier.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the passion behind it.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent. So that's where I'm I've been a
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: little I don't want to say in the gutter, but
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I've definitely been in my head like trying to figure
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: out what I want to do because I want it
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: to be something that I enjoy and I wanted to be. Like,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I know I could make more out of a career
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: that I enjoy than a career that I just like
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: am doing. Just to have a career like I would
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: much rather be deeply invested.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: That's awesome. I think marketing is perfect. I mean I
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: got my master's in marketing too.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I will say, like all my marketing classes are my
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: favorite classes here, Like, I love my marketing class.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: If you want to stay another year.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I'll put that in my head. Yeah, and a shelf.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: There's this is really random, but there's like one marketing
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: campaign that I've been thinking about for a while now,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: and I wonder if you guys have been talking about
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: it's for a movie.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: It's for.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Uh Marty Supreme. Okay, so it's Timothy Schallamey. He's gonna
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: be like this. Marty Mouse was like this Ping Pong
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: guy back in the nineteen fifties, like the first professional
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: like Ping Pong guy, And they did this marketing campaign
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: where everyone was on zoom right and it was like
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: a corporate zoom call, and like Timothy Shallame gets on
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: zoom to like give his ideas for the movie, and
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: all of these people are looking super professional. Timothy Shallome
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: is in like a wife beater type shirt like or
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: like a tank top kind of, and then has a
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: buzz cut and whatever, and he's giving like all these
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: marketing campaigns and whatever, and one of them he's like, oh, like,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I had my visual artists come up with this for
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: like six months, and it's like orange, like an orange square,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: like it's a color. And then he has oh, I
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: also had my visual artists come up with this, and
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: it's like a blimp or something like his Like it
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: looks like a five year old. Yeah, it's a very
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: drawing of a blimp or something like that, and all
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: of these like professional people are like yeah, like that's
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: really cool and like being super like profession I don't know.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: It was just the best video I've ever watched.
• 44:03
  Speaker 5: It.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I spent seventeen minutes of my life watching this video.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: It was a long video, but I don't remember it. Yes,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I just thought it was so powerful. And now they're
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: doing Marty Supreme blimps like everywhere, and like Timothy Shallome
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: is like pointing to these pointing to these blimps and
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: he's on a wheaties box and is this.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Like within the movie? Is this like part of the movie.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: No, it's not part of the movie. It's to do
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: A twenty four is the company behind the movie, and
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: so they're they're he was just presenting marketing ideas for
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: the movie to get people to learn about the movie
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: and like want to go see it.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: And oh okay.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: He's just a hilarious.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Human being and he's like so funny.
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: And like having him on the Zoom call like it was.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: It was a really great video. I keep telling all
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: my friends about it. Maybe yeah, I'm gonna go and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: watch this video. It won't hit people the same way,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: but I think you should.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know, watch it, Okay, watch that.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know why this brought up.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: To my brain, but no, I'm intrigued now.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: But like he was like Marty Supreme Christmas Day, Marty
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Supreme Christmas Day. Like if I go on a Jimmy
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: Fallon interview, like they're gonna be like, what what are
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: you thinking about? Timothy? Like what's anything new going on
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: in your life? And he's like Marty Supreme Christmas Day?
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know, you have to watch the video.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: I'll have you seen the kJ Appa like dupe of him. No,
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: he's like starting a whole music career, but like as
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: a different person. No, And like he hasn't come out
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: and said that it's him, but everybody knows that it's him.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: It's Timothy, It's k.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: He was in Riverdale, which is a show that was
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: on the CW that like I think me and Cayle
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: would be more familiar with because it wasn't like a no, no, no, no,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: not that at all. I just I just I don't
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: think it would be your caliber of show.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Like it was a very like it's like the generation.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Like brain rot, like it wasn't It wasn't good. Like
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: when I think of you, I think like you wouldn't
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: watch the class yeah reality TV show, Like no, like
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: you would not.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: I will binge watch some show, not that show.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: I'm a bit watcher. It's like not like not strange things,
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: strange things at tennis better but like yeah, same kind
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: of like okay, con but it's like he's like promoting
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: this entire brand rebrand of himself as like a fully
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to send it to you. It's like
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: it's very weird. It's like he like has those fake
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: teeth with like the gap in the middle and like
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: you know that your mom like used to get you
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: those ugly teeth as a kid that you put in
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: and there's like he's like that, and he has like
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: a wig, like a long wig on. It's like it
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: was the weirdest thing. But he like it's producing music.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: It's like a music career, Like he's starting a music career,
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: but like not as himself. It's like Hannimontana kind.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Of okay but ugly but ugly okay.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: It's I mean not I think like I think he
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: did it though to like strategy to start talking about it,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Like I think it's like, who the hell is.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: He that's so smart? Like I feel like you have
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: to be so out there and wild to like do
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: something different, Yeah, do something different, like to get people
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: to talk about even.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Like if it fails, he's like rich and famous that
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: it's like, okay, yeah, he's just having fun at this point,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: like he's marketing in the funnest way. He can't he
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: can think.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Of exactly sports marketing. Okay, So back to a sorry
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: we got.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: On a tank, all right, Roverdale. Back to lacrosse.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I was wondering, if you want to be a part
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: of any of these professional lacrosse sports scenes in the future.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: I've actually so this past summer I worked for my
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: high school coach at like a tournament, and I've really
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: really liked the idea of getting into coaching or in
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: that aspect of things. And if I don't get into
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: into coaching, I could see myself because I think once
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: I stopped playing college, I will definitely need to fill
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: avoid in some type of way, like I will need
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: to pick up some different type of hobby, and I
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: think honestly professional would be Like I think I would
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: definitely have a different career and like have a career
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: path set out for myself, but kind of do professional
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: lacrosse like on the side. I think it would be
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: a good way of doing it because it's just like
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: at that point, it's a bunch of girls that have
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: played college against each other and with each other for
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: the past like ten years, like they all know each
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: other and they just have so much fun. I'm like,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: that was like awesome. And there are half of them
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: are like club coaches college coaches, so that whole aspect
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: of the lacrosse world is very interesting to me.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Is this new like a new professional like lacrosse league
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: like or is it has it happened within like the
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: past five years?
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, fine, it's like very this specific one the
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: I want to say, it's I keep forgetting.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: But is it athletes Unlimited? No, that was United.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I think that one ended, So that's they did have
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: an athlete unlimited and that one started like COVID. Yeah,
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: and now the men's across the PLL, the professional yeah
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: Plross League, and there's a wl SO women's pross league,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: but the PLL bought I want to say, like they
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: kind of just started it, so it gets within the
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: last like two or three years that this specifically she
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: has like started. Yeah, but like I would say, before
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: five years ago, it was never really like I.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: Mean hopefully with like more people watching now, it'll get
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: more funding and it oh yeah, it will become a
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: bigger thing.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I think the more like I brought up Charlotte North,
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: like she did a very very good job. And there's
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: a girl in Migrate, Chloe Humphrey that has just like
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: lit the lacrosse world on fire, and they both like
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: little girls. More and more are trying to view and
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: like trying to figure out what lacrosse is. And I
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: think it's awesome because it's just like you you talked.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: We had we had a camp at Clemson and this
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: entire bus of this little lacrosse club out of Memphis,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: like they dad, like no, yeah, they drove and I
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: got sprinter van and the whole club team pulled up
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: and they were like hey, And the dad came up
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: to me and he was like, do you have any
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: advice for like how we should grow the game within
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: that spart because like there's nothing really close to us.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: And I think that's like I love that because it's
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: like dads that like don't really know the sport and
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: they're trying to get their daughters into something new and
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: they're learning the sport for the daughters, and I'm like,
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: that's just possible. I say a thing. The girls were
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: like so joyous about being too. I'm like, this was
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: like this is why we do what we do, Like
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: this is awesome and.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Like and I'm sure growing up too in Georgia, like
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: did you have a lot of older girls that you
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: went and watched, Like I'm sure you had some, like
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: not many.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Not many at all, but there were definitely some that
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: I was just like fascinated by. Like funny enough, our
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: coach now Landon, she's like our goalie coach. She was
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: a goalie in college, but she went to high school
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: very close to me, and she was actually my club
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: coach for a couple of years like as a college player,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: and I just remember thinking of her as like one
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: of the coolest people that I had, like ever met,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: because I was like, you're at Yukon playing lacrosse and
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: you're from Georgia, Like that's not very common, Like there's
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: not a lot of people like that. And there was
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: a girl Maddie Dora that went to my rival high
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: school actually, and she was just like insane, like filthy
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: at lacrosse. And I just remember watching her and being
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: like I want to be like that, and like hearing
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: my brother the way my brother would talk about these
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: girls that are like really good. He's like, yeah, that's sick.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Like I like, that's so like awesome that they're good
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: at this and like they can do this. And I
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: wanted to be like that's so bad. Like I was like, yeah,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: put me in, Like that's what I want to be
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: doing about that.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: And now you are.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: Well, there's like there's a national decline in girls staying
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: in sports, yeah, which really is not good, right, And
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: if we also think about women in really high lead
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: leadership positions, most of them played sports right, and especially
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: in high school or even into college. So I'm even
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: just thinking the story you told earlier, like seeing your
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: brother's crush play with that.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: But I think that's the cool stuff.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: You never know who's watching you, whether you're in middle
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: school when it's a younger kid, or even just I
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: know you're high energy and such a fun person to
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: be around, but you welcoming that young club off the
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: spomer van with high energy and excitement for lacrosse. Like
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: they're looking at you right if you had had a
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: bad attitude or you didn't make it seem fun, Like
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: you're impacting people's experience on the sport and just how
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: cool it is that even the slightest just excitement for
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: the game, or a smile or answering a question, whatever
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: it might be, that can impact someone staying or not
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: staying in a sport, and we need more kids in sports.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: It was that I am going back to that group
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: because it was the cutest thing ever.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: It was like did they come after a game or something?
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a tournament, I want to say, and
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: maybe it was in Georgia, like we always host one
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: in Georgia, so maybe it was that. But it was close.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: And I remember all these girls like left because like
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: are the college like the players, we have to have
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: a team like throughout, like we carry our team throughout.
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: And I got these girls and at the end, like
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: I'm in a group chat, like I we made a
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: group chat of all of us. Like they stayed in
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: the dorm, so this was an overnight camp. Ah, so
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: they're like texting me throughout the night. I'm like guys
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: like I got to go to bed, Like you guys gotta
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: go to bed. We have a big day lacross tomorrow,
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: like go ahead, and like they would leave and like
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: go to like whatever other tournaments throughout the summer and
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: still text me, and I'm like that's so cute. Like
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: they're just like the love that they have for the game,
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: and they're like not even because it's like they're good
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: at it or like they want like to play in college,
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: just because it's like genuinely fun for them, Like I
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: think it should be.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: The most rewarding part of being a student athlete is
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: seeing the impact that you're having on children.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: That you used to be.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like that's that is by far the
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: most fun thing to do. Agreed, What do you want
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: your future legacy to be here at Clemson? What do
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: you want people to think about when they think of
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Kayleb McLeod, Clemson Lacrosse.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I want them to think of somebody that always did
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: the right thing by themselves and for their team, and
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: whether that is like not necessarily like like one hundred
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: percent doing the right thing all the time. Like that's
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: not what I want it to be, but I want
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: it to be somebody that like they look it up
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: to me and they're thinking like, Okay, I have full
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: trust that I can go to her and like she
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: can give me good advice on this one thing, or
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: like she'll be there when I need her. And I
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: also really want them to think like she tried very
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: hard and in whatever she was doing, whether that is
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: PT or whether that's like recovery, whether that's like taking
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: my actual recovery days seriously not doing anything, or like
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: whether that's lacrosse based. I want them to think like
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: she did one hundred and ten percent of what she
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: wanted to do and not like half did anything.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: All right, Kayla, where can people find you on social media?
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: Kaylen McLeod twenty on Instagram. Don't know what my TikTok is,
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: but that's what're LinkedIn? LinkedIn also do Kayla McLeod twenty. Nice.
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah there you.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: Go, Caylen McLoud.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so good to have you.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks for having me.
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: Can't wait till you're back on the field.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Me too.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Exciting, It'll be a big day.